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Title: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 24, 2012, 08:28:52 pm
hello,can anyone help,there is a post at minera history of a photo album bought at newport,and a few of llandudno 1913 http://minerahistory.proboards.com/index.cg (http://minerahistory.proboards.com/index.cg)  the subject under, MISCELLANEOUS,quite a lot of clues again can you help thank's.         
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Post by: martin on January 24, 2012, 08:31:26 pm
Link does not work :'(
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Post by: dwsi on January 24, 2012, 08:34:21 pm
Link does not work :'(

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Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 24, 2012, 08:47:15 pm
http://www.minerahistory.com/sorry,new (http://www.minerahistory.com/sorry,new) to this game try again,click on message board.
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 24, 2012, 08:49:29 pm
http://www.minerahistory.com/ (http://www.minerahistory.com/)   got it to much jd's
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Post by: Pendragon on January 24, 2012, 08:49:39 pm
Seems you have to be a member to see the enlarged photos.......not that I'd know any way I was just having a nosey  :D
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2012, 08:58:42 pm
Link to thread:
http://minerahistory.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mineragwynfryn&action=display&thread=1344&page=1 (http://minerahistory.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mineragwynfryn&action=display&thread=1344&page=1)
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2012, 08:59:56 pm
A couple of interesting photos, quite a few are of somewhere other than Llandudno and they are too small to get a really good look at. I recognised Bangor Pier in one of them.
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 24, 2012, 09:50:24 pm
just cropped these 2
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Post by: jacko on January 24, 2012, 09:52:03 pm
think this is llandudno,
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Post by: jacko on January 24, 2012, 09:53:58 pm
sorry,
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Post by: jacko on January 24, 2012, 10:26:43 pm
at the back of picture are inscriptions
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Post by: Nemesis on January 25, 2012, 08:21:41 am
just cropped these 2

I have a black and white photo which is very similar in a frame on one of my walls, it looks like the same two ladies standing on the left, but only one man in the middle.
Picked it up in Oxfam a few years back.
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 27, 2012, 05:35:06 pm
hello,posting 3 more photos,there is a name looks like castelle,and mother by a gate,the name castelle crops up a lot on photos about 20,she is visiting the area, and are very wealthy family,all in 1913 who lived there.?
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 27, 2012, 05:36:38 pm
back of photo.
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Post by: jacko on January 27, 2012, 05:39:22 pm
and man shearing,did he live at castelle,
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Post by: Cambrian on January 27, 2012, 06:18:56 pm
Jacko, just a thought, I wonder if it could be Castell at the top of Nant y Gamar.  The gate looks similar to one I have seen up there.
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 27, 2012, 06:27:08 pm
yes i did see this on old maps and there was 2 dwellings just above castell,was there an old castle in the area,
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Post by: jacko on January 27, 2012, 06:52:28 pm
yhttp://www.ponies.me.uk/maps/osmap.html you can find a lot of info on OLD ORDNANCE SURVEY MAPS here.
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 27, 2012, 08:59:56 pm
photo taken from castelle? i did go on street map,and on road nant y gamer the area i wanted to see had a notice private road,so close.
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: suepp on January 27, 2012, 10:36:59 pm
Castell was on Bodafon Road between Pant y Ffynnon and Pen y Mynydd
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 28, 2012, 06:59:25 am
thanks, go to this site just put in llandudno,and choose a year like 1900. http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html)                                                                                             
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on January 28, 2012, 07:38:30 pm
this photo taken from llandudno pier of happy valley.
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Post by: jacko on January 28, 2012, 07:45:00 pm
someone sheepshearing again must be on a farm or small holding.possibly castelle ?
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Post by: jacko on January 28, 2012, 07:49:58 pm
this is at the end of the album,just to confirm that this family are in llandudno,
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Post by: jacko on February 04, 2012, 02:24:21 pm
hello,just walked past a book shop yesterday and found this,what a find,only 15 pounds,didn't know rhyl had a pier.
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Post by: jacko on February 04, 2012, 02:26:11 pm
first page,
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Post by: Blodyn on February 04, 2012, 05:34:53 pm
That looks a great find, Jacko.  Hope you'll be able to share one or two pictures with us. 
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Post by: Fester on February 04, 2012, 05:41:01 pm
Jacko, Rhyl had a very long and interesting Pier.  As did Rhos and many other towns.

You can read about them in this book... I have a copy, its great.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Piers-Wales-Martin-Easdown/dp/1848689209 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Piers-Wales-Martin-Easdown/dp/1848689209)

Rumour has it that there was once even a Pier at Colwyn Bay ...  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2012, 05:44:54 pm
Rhyl Pier in the 1950s:
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Post by: Blodyn on February 04, 2012, 05:48:59 pm
When did Rhyl pier disappear?  In that photo it looks rather better than Colwyn Bay pier does today.   
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Post by: Fester on February 05, 2012, 12:35:59 am
When did Rhyl pier disappear?  In that photo it looks rather better than Colwyn Bay pier does today.   

So does the contents of my wheelie bin, sadly.  :(
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: jacko on February 05, 2012, 07:48:51 pm
hello,llandudno no date,
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 07:52:32 pm
Well, the Pier Pavilion is there, so post 1886. Probably around 1900.
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Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 07:54:34 pm
When did Rhyl pier disappear?  In that photo it looks rather better than Colwyn Bay pier does today.   
It was finally demolished in 1974.

There are proposals to build a new one:
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tm_headline=rhyl-looks-to-get-pier-back&method=full&objectid=19812291&siteid=50082-name_page.html (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/tm_headline=rhyl-looks-to-get-pier-back&method=full&objectid=19812291&siteid=50082-name_page.html)
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: Fester on February 05, 2012, 08:45:51 pm
But has anything actually happened with that proposal in the last four and a half years?   
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Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2012, 08:49:48 pm
But has anything actually happened with that proposal in the last four and a half years?
http://www.denbighshirevisitor.com/news/denbighshire-news/2010/07/14/ambitious-plans-to-develop-a-pier-in-rhyl-105722-26844593/ (http://www.denbighshirevisitor.com/news/denbighshire-news/2010/07/14/ambitious-plans-to-develop-a-pier-in-rhyl-105722-26844593/)
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: hollins on February 09, 2012, 11:13:53 am
[quote

You can read about them in this book... I have a copy, its great.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Piers-Wales-Martin-Easdown/dp/1848689209 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Piers-Wales-Martin-Easdown/dp/1848689209)


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Thanks for recommending this book Fester. I have ordered it. I have bought a few books recently about the area from recommendations on this forum. I was wondering if anyone had a list of books that they would recommend about the area as I am sure there must be more around that I don't know anything about?
Title: Re: llandudno photos 1913.
Post by: Cambrian on February 09, 2012, 12:22:12 pm
There are quite a few books on the town worth reading - unfortunately many are now out of print but can be found at fairly reasonable prices at Lewis' shop in Madoc Street. (Madoc Books tends to sell books which have been re-bound and the prices are correspondingly dearer but can be worth a browse) and Bay Books opposite the Bay Shopping Centre.

I will mention a few that don't seem to have featured much on the Forum but which I find useful:

"Your obedient servant" George Hiller (2003)  He was the Mostyn Agent from 1959 to 1988 and tells the story of the estate from his perspective.

"Llandudno and the Mostyn Influence" F. Ron Williams (2 volumes 1996 and 2002) Published by the Estate and Llandudno Historical Society.

"Streets of Llandudno" Edwards & Evans/Llandudno Historical Society. Mainly origins of street names but also anecdotes and some local historical details.

"Just Taking Stock" - Clive Stock. (2004)  Covers Clive's time in Llandudno as an impressario, performer and manager of the Arcadia.

"Llandudno through time" Draper & Lawson Reay (2010)  Mainly "then and now" photos but quite a bit of detail as you would expect from these two local historians.

I am sure others on the Forum will have other suggestions - there are specialist books on landscape topics and wild life as well.
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Post by: hollins on February 09, 2012, 06:35:32 pm
Thanks Cambrian. I have ordered a couple of them today and I am looking forward to reading them.
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Post by: Cambrian on February 09, 2012, 08:18:22 pm
Another useful source of historical (and flora/fauna) details are the "Proceedings" of the Llandudno and Colwyn Bay Field Club.  These were published at various intervals between 1905 and 1954 with a couple of special supplements.  They comprise a series of articles or reports of field trips.  Well worth getting if you can find any.  Usually the second hand bookshops mentioned will have some.  Madoc Books has a full set but the price is steep. Try looking on the Abebooks site as I have seen them there as well.
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Post by: DaveR on February 09, 2012, 08:26:26 pm
I've seen those, too, Cambrian, and they look very interesting. A shame that they cant be republished, really, so that more people can get to see them.
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Post by: Llechwedd on February 10, 2012, 12:21:28 pm
Hey Jack just found this.  Which shop did you buy the book in?
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Post by: jacko on July 15, 2012, 11:32:54 am
http://www.peoplescollection.co.uk/Home (http://www.peoplescollection.co.uk/Home)   just found this site put in llandudno,or any town village go grazy,