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Title: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on November 01, 2010, 08:21:44 pm
I've spent virtually all my time this summer listening to our local radio station, Tudno F.M.   I feel that the objects of this station and our own Three Towns forum are very similar, virtually identical.   This morning two of the, might I say,more senior in age, presenters were having a discussion about this and that, how things were better (maybe) in years gone by, how common sense was prevalent years ago but now seems to have gone out of the window. I'm sure you get my drift.  This made me think it surprising I have never read any thread in the forum mentioning Tudno F.M.    Likewise, I have never heard the station mentioning the forum.   Is there no overlapping of readers/listeners and am I the only one?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on November 01, 2010, 09:15:43 pm
I think you might be the only one, Mike! I've not heard anyone even mention it in ages, which is a shame as its a great idea. Having said that, I'm not a great radio listener (apart from the Today programme in the morning on R4).
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on November 01, 2010, 09:21:30 pm
Hummm.I'm surprised.   I'll speak to Tudnofm presenters and see if they are in a similar position, they havent heard of the forum for ages. I'm on a promise to be shown around the studios so I'll bring the subject up then
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on November 02, 2010, 05:29:58 am
There was a Tudno FM thread in the old forum when the radio station was in it's infancy. Presenter Andy Harris was a forum member, who used the forum mainly to promote the radio station.

Now that the station has grown and most of the presenters have blogs on the station website, I suppose another local forum is not needed anymore.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 02, 2010, 06:31:40 am
I've just looked at the station website and I'm seeing 'news' about a gorse fire back in March!
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on November 02, 2010, 06:37:40 am
I've just looked at the station website and I'm seeing 'news' about a gorse fire back in March!

 L0L
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 02, 2010, 08:13:55 am
I've just looked at the station website and I'm seeing 'news' about a gorse fire back in March!

 L0L

If they leave that on the website for a few more months, it'll be current news again  _))*
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on November 02, 2010, 06:09:44 pm
I've just looked at the station website and I'm seeing 'news' about a gorse fire back in March!

 L0L

If they leave that on the website for a few more months, it'll be current news again  _))*

 $lol$
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on November 02, 2010, 06:39:52 pm
Hey, hold on a minute----don't go knocking Tudnofm.    Dont forget that if "someone unknown" had'nt messed around with this forum, deleting everything------then visitors could be reading about went on in Llandudno on bonfire night 2009
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 02, 2010, 06:44:34 pm
well to be fair their website does also mention school closures











on the 13/ 1 / 2010  ))*
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on November 03, 2010, 02:37:28 am
This article from last year is very apt, especially in the run-up to the festive season. Let's hope it snows again.  ££$

White Christmas?

Snowy Llandudno A White Christmas?

Whilst Tudno FM is bringing the festive feel to the airwaves of Llandudno, mother nature has done her part and pathed the streets of Llandudno with a beautiful layer of white snow.

For all the latest weather information, tune into Tudno FM 107.8 or simply click on the 'Listen Live' tab at the top of the Screen.

Merry Christmas from everyone at Tudno FM


Photo copyright Andrew Stuart
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on November 03, 2010, 02:47:38 am
Hey, hold on a minute----don't go knocking Tudnofm.    Dont forget that if "someone unknown" had'nt messed around with this forum, deleting everything------then visitors could be reading about went on in Llandudno on bonfire night 2009

Nothing much happened Bonnie Night 2009.  :-X

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2009/11/05/llandudno-fireworks-display-cancelled-55578-25102145/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2009/11/05/llandudno-fireworks-display-cancelled-55578-25102145/)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on November 21, 2010, 08:44:38 pm
Well, I've now been given the promised tour of Tudnofm's studios.  Mr Rob Horton (Valley of the Giants) gave me at least an hour of his time to show me around, and I was most impressed. Obviously I could'nt take much in in an hour, but it was a good taster. I was surprised how little any of them knew about this forum, as, equally I was surprised how little the forum members,me included, know about the station and what it is trying to achieve. To show how little I knew, I found out that one of the presenters or D.Js was an old workmate of mine in Llanrwst.
   I told them I thought their website and blogs needed a spot of TLC.. Likewise I had better tell the forum members that a bit of time listening 107.8 might lead to mutual enjoyment. Mike
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Nemesis on November 22, 2010, 08:43:38 am
Tudno FM is always on in our house and I had a short chat at the Fayre with the Irish chappie Martin who is a presenter on there.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on November 22, 2010, 06:42:36 pm
Yes, he is on air most mornings around 10 am to midday, and does a good few interviews in Terry Wogan's style. He describes himself as one of the two "grumpy old men" in the studio.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 06:54:24 pm
I used to listen to it a bit at the start. Assuming it hasn't changed, they could do with beefing up their local news, as it used to be just the national news rehashed, with very little local stuff. They could always use the forum as a starting base for finding local stories to talk about?

Out of interest, Mike, did they say how many listeners they get?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on November 25, 2010, 07:09:43 pm
No, we never got around to that subject. Really I was too busy trying to take in the mechanics in the studio. I can easily find out, though, and I'll let the forum know.  I agree with you about the local news. I think it maybe that no particular person amongst all the helpers is responsible, they all just chip in with what they have read or heard. I may be wrong about that, so I'll ask them about that subject as well Mike P.S. In fairness they are CONSTANTLY asking for any contributions from listeners, particularly forthcoming events.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2010, 07:45:18 pm
It would be interesting to know and compare it with how many people look at the forum.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on December 12, 2010, 04:43:08 pm
If anyone reads this in the next hour and a bit, theres a great 2 hours on Tudno FM every Sunday, 16 00 to 18.00. Kelly Veen Price, a lovely lady from America but now lives in Rhos. To use her own words, shes cranking them out. By them she means 80s music. Recommended  Mike
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on December 12, 2010, 06:10:43 pm
Hey, where were you all? Kelly Veen Price said she did'nt have a single request from you!!!!  Don't try and say 80s music is before your time. Some of us, maybe, but not all. Don't try and say its after your time. I listen---and request. And, looking around the forum members at the before Xmas do, I thought (no, I don't believe it) I was the oldest one there. I don't like that. Next minute there will be young lady members helping me down the road.  Mike
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Pendragon on December 12, 2010, 06:19:35 pm
Next minute there will be young lady members helping me down the road.  Mike
I won't tell anyone if you don't Mike (snigger snigger)  _))*
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 06:44:08 pm
http://www.kellyveenprice.com/ (http://www.kellyveenprice.com/)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Nemesis on December 12, 2010, 07:47:24 pm
Hey, where were you all? Kelly Veen Price said she did'nt have a single request from you!!!!  Don't try and say 80s music is before your time. Some of us, maybe, but not all. Don't try and say its after your time. I listen---and request. And, looking around the forum members at the before Xmas do, I thought (no, I don't believe it) I was the oldest one there. I don't like that. Next minute there will be young lady members helping me down the road.  Mike

Tried for a request with Martin ( the Irish chappie) but haven't heard it yet !

Do you mean to say that I missed helping you down the road on Thurs. Mike? Too old probably ! ::)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Fester on December 13, 2010, 01:02:29 am
You're only too old when you realise that people are helping YOU accross the road!

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Nemesis on December 13, 2010, 08:56:15 am
OMG! _))*
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: dingo20 on January 28, 2011, 02:17:43 pm
I listern quite a bit to Tudno FM via the internet (in between Radio Free Texas) I like the Irish fella, can't remember his name. Where is it broadcast from is it near Asda?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on January 28, 2011, 02:28:35 pm
It's from behind Asda, in the old John Bright sports centre, now renamed Ty Hapus.  :)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Yorkie on January 28, 2011, 02:29:41 pm
Ffordd Penrhryn
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on January 29, 2011, 04:09:03 am
I listern quite a bit to Tudno FM via the internet (in between Radio Free Texas) I like the Irish fella, can't remember his name. Where is it broadcast from is it near Asda?

The Irish fella - Martin Ward. Really nice guy.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Paddy on January 29, 2011, 01:58:48 pm
I listern quite a bit to Tudno FM via the internet (in between Radio Free Texas) I like the Irish fella, can't remember his name. Where is it broadcast from is it near Asda?

The Irish fella - Martin Ward. Really nice guy.

I kind of went off him a bit when he was talking about a Government "tink tank".
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Yorkie on January 29, 2011, 04:20:52 pm
Must confess that I've never listened to Tudno FM.   I'm a Radio 4 person myself.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Fester on January 29, 2011, 04:24:29 pm
I listern quite a bit to Tudno FM via the internet (in between Radio Free Texas) I like the Irish fella, can't remember his name. Where is it broadcast from is it near Asda?

The Irish fella - Martin Ward. Really nice guy.

I kind of went off him a bit when he was talking about a Government "tink tank".

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  _))* _))* _))*  L0L L0L L0L
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on January 30, 2011, 01:19:58 am
I listern quite a bit to Tudno FM via the internet (in between Radio Free Texas) I like the Irish fella, can't remember his name. Where is it broadcast from is it near Asda?

The Irish fella - Martin Ward. Really nice guy.

I kind of went off him a bit when he was talking about a Government "tink tank".

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  _))* _))* _))*  L0L L0L L0L

 $lol$ $lol$ $lol$ $lol$ $lol$
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on May 18, 2011, 02:19:57 am
Attempted to listen to Tudno FM on my computer today, but all I could hear was a "white noise" sound.  :roll:

http://www.tudnofm.co.uk/listen2.html (http://www.tudnofm.co.uk/listen2.html)

Anyone else having trouble?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Michael on May 18, 2011, 12:16:47 pm
Am I right in saying that you were trying to listen to TudnoFM at across the Atlantic? If so, the general location is O.K. because, until a week or so ago, a regular presenter did two hours every Sunday afternoon, she was American living in Rhos, but she constantly sent messages to her friends in the U.S.A. and they responded. Mike
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on May 18, 2011, 06:07:29 pm
Am I right in saying that you were trying to listen to TudnoFM at across the Atlantic? If so, the general location is O.K. because, until a week or so ago, a regular presenter did two hours every Sunday afternoon, she was American living in Rhos, but she constantly sent messages to her friends in the U.S.A. and they responded. Mike

Yes, across the Atlantic and further. I'm on the west coast.

Still have no luck today.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2011, 06:15:15 pm
It's just white noise for me too. The fact that its been like that all day and only Trojan has noticed shows how many people listen to it!  :P
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2011, 06:23:20 pm
I have sent them a Tweet to let them know.  ;)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on May 19, 2011, 09:25:10 pm
It seems to be working now.  $happy$

I was just about to forward the link to the CIA in Washington.

That white noise would have been handy for interrogation purposes.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 02:02:14 am
It matters not what the Tudno FM studios look like, or how good and professional the equipment looks. What matters is what comes out of the speakers in our homes and workplaces and in our cars. Content, content, content, with a complete focus on the very reason Tudno FM was brought into being with hundreds of thousands of pounds of public money, namely, the 'Community'.

Tudno Fm are not delivering the 'Social Gain' it could and should. It's there to give a 'voice' to the 'Community', to give the 'Community' a platform on which to bring about change for the better for the many and not the few. To champion various causes, to stimulate debate and involve all sides in those debates. That is simply not happening anything like it could and should be. The result being, the 'Community' is losing out.

Tudno Fm belongs to the 'Community', it's theirs, they own it, it's part of them, their everyday. It's there to afford opportunity to bring about change, to make the town a better place. So many people on this forum, and within the 'Community' don't even know it exists. If they do, they don't know where it is, and why is that? It's because they are not working at it, they have lost sight of the Vision of 'Community Radio', why it exists in the first place. Run correctly, Tudno Fm should be putting all other radio stations which are receivable in the town, in the shade, blowing them out of the water. The potential to do that is huge, but they can't or won't see that.

I know they are volunteers, and many who run it put a lot of hours in, and they are to be thanked for it, thank God for them. But they need to understand the principle and vision of 'Community Radio'. Tudno Fm is not a success story, far from it. But it could be hugely successful with more thought about programming and more emphasis on the very reason they exist, the 'Community'. Those who run it are only limited by imagination and ideas. There's nothing they can't do if they put their mind to it. But they have to start listening to genuine people who give ideas in order to help.

You only get out of something what you put into it. Please Tudno FM, put the 'Community' at the forefront of every second of your programming, involve them, give the 'Community' their voice, that platform on which to be heard. Rock the boat, ask difficult questions, put those who run the town, the councils, 'On The Spot', embarrass them if you have to, niggle them if you must, don't be afraid to go for the jugular. And for God's sake open your telephone lines for the 'Community' to talk 'LIVE ON THE AIR'. Let's hear the actual voices of the 'Community'.

Let's hear the voice of Mrs Jones from Cwm Place, or Mr Hughes from West Parade. All we hear are the voices of the presenters, or the voices of the occasional person who comes in for interview. Bring about some heated debates about 'Community' issues. Stimulate debate, provoke responses from all sides, bring people together whilst staying in the middle. You have it in your power to do so much good. You have the equipment to bring that about. But you must summon up the will, the want, the desire and the passion to do that. You can do it, you really can. Stand up, be strong, be outgoing and forthright in your attitude. Don't be scared to take risks, to rattle a cage or two. Believe me, if you can do that you will thank me for pushing you, the 'Community' will thank you for standing up for them. They will get behind you like you never thought possible. You are the 'Community'. The 'Community' is you.

Tudno FM are struggling for money, just like many other Community Radio Stations. But I promise you, if they change their focus, and do as I suggest, then the 'Community' will come good and get behind them as never before. Tudno Fm should tell the 'Community' if they are struggling to survive in any way. Talk to them, ask the 'Community' for help, in whatever way, and providing Tudno FM are providing a service that is bringing about Social Gain and change for the better, then the support of the whole 'Community' will embrace, help and support them, no problem.

Thank you one and all in Tudno Fm for what you have done up to now, and for the giving of your time. But it's now time for change. Time to take the station to where it needs to be, at the very heart of our 'Community'. You can do it, really you can. But you have to listen, and accept that change must come about. No time like the present.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 31, 2011, 07:03:43 am
FYI, I have harboured a similar view for quite some time but I did not want to be accused of being negative.

Tudno FM has significant potential but it needs to definitely change if it wants to become the radio channel of choice within our home.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 08:24:38 am
I agree completely with Waffagolf. I remember posting on here when we had the heavy snow around Christmas time that it would have been an ideal opportunity for Tudno FM to be broadcasting constant snippets of news about road/school closures etc...but they didnt even have a presenter, it was just back to back music, like someone had loaded up a CD player and gone out for the day. That was very disappointing. It's run by volunteers, yes, but they have received many hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of funding so should be able to do better.

Fact is, we provide far more local news and views on this Forum than can be found on Tudno FM.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 31, 2011, 08:31:31 am
I agree completely with Waffagolf. I remember posting on here when we had the heavy snow around Christmas time that it would have been an ideal opportunity for Tudno FM to be broadcasting constant snippets of news about road/school closures etc...but they didnt even have a presenter, 

Did you post that DaveR?

I thought it was me.  :o
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 09:31:39 am
We both posted it!  ;D
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=320.msg9735#msg9735 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=320.msg9735#msg9735)
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=320.msg9737#msg9737 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=320.msg9737#msg9737)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2011, 10:12:31 am
Quote
   
Fact is, we provide far more local news and views on this Forum than can be found on Tudno FM.

They probably need to move to remote broadcasting. Many folk might be prepared to broadcast from home, and it's perfectly feasible.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 10:33:54 am
Hmmm....Three Towns Radio?  8)  :P

http://radio.about.com/od/createinternetradio/a/How-to-Create-Your-Own-Internet-Radio-Station_3.htm (http://radio.about.com/od/createinternetradio/a/How-to-Create-Your-Own-Internet-Radio-Station_3.htm)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 12:26:59 pm
Community Radio Stations really come into their own in times of bad weather, traffic accidents, disasters like the 93' flooding, snow blocked roads, school closures. It's at times like that that the Community turn to their Community Radio for first hand, up to the minute news on whatever it is thats transpiring at that moment. For the medium of radio, and moreso in many ways, Community Radio, is instant, and programming can change direction in an instant.

Tudno FM's lack of local news is at times astounding. The lack of news at all, at times is jaw dropping. News is fundamental to any radio station, but for Community Radio it can be the backbone and the hook that keeps people from tuning into another station. By provoking serious community issues through debate, by stimulating responses, Tudno FM can provide their own community news stories.

I recently obtained copies of Tudno FMs accounts up to 2010, and was flabbergasted to read that over a three year period, they have spent approx £93,000 on, wait for it, Consultants. Thats somewhere in the region of £100 a day, every day, for three years...ON CONSULTANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since the radio station started, their fundraising activities have yeilded in the region of £9k to £10k, so that being the case, does that mean the £93,000 has come from the public purse? If so, I suggest questions should be asked in relation to why so much has been spent on Consultants, who the Consultants were, what the Consultants provided for their money, who authorised payments, and sight of minutes would be helpful too, and sight of funding applications for such vast amounts of money for Consultants. I'm sorry, but to spend such a huge amount of money over three years on Consultants beggars belief. If it's public money, then the public should be told. If you visit the Charities Commission website or Companies House website, you can get copies of the accounts, it's all in the public domain.

But please don't get me wrong here, I'm not trying to do anything else but to get the radio station to provide the service the Community, need, want and deserve, and as public money has enabled it to be there, then Tudno FM must show and prove that the service they are providing is Value For Money, public money, our money. It's not rocket science.

Mountains must be moved to keep Tudno FM going, the Community need it. They may not realise it yet, but they do, but only if the vision of what true Community Radio is all about is adhered to, worked on, and brought about. A Community Radio Station can and should be a vital, no, essential part of a Community. For any Community Radio Station to be successful, it must be run by a team of people who have a 'Passion' for it, it's how it is.

A few years ago I applied for a grant, and sat down with a cup of coffee in Tesco in Llandudno Junction with the head of a particular funding body. This guy asked me to talk to him about the project I wanted the money for. When I finished telling him,he looked at me and said "This is your passion isn't it". I knew instantly he said that, that he would give me the grant, and he did.

Without that grant the project would never have come to fruition, but without the Passion for the project, there would have been no grant.

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Dwyforite on May 31, 2011, 01:41:15 pm
the trouble i found with tudno fm is its lack of power/signal the last time i listened i was going along the 470 towards glan conwy corner quite enjoying the program till i started the rundown to glan conwy corner,nothing,gone zilch signal gone,at least when i was on the CB i could blast into rhyl during the day and liverpool at night.if a bricklayer /joiner takes his radio to work he should be able to listen to his local radio 15/20 miles away.another point is the lack of a local tone to the station,on holiday in tenerife i would listen to power fm and it would be advertising  certain bars, shops,local builders etc,it also used to run music quizs with small prizes such as two toasties  at the robin hood,an evening  meal for two at a seafood restaurant not big prizes but enough to get people in the bars cafes and at work interested.please forgive if i am not up to date on signal /format on tudno fm because i took the station off favourites on the car radio a while ago
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 02:11:56 pm
Two points in relation to the signal. 1.) A Community Radio Station such as Tudno FM only broadcasts to a radius of 5km, therefore the signal strength used, is used to cover that radius only, any coverage a CRS achieves outside of that is down to atmospherics.

For example, Tudno FM may have a defined potential audience of say 30,000 people within their Target Service Area (TSA), but due to atmospherics, the actual signal could go out to a potential 83,000 people. But the content of their programming must be dedicated solely to the Community that resides with its TSA. It has to be special to that area only.

2.) When the project was being brought about, NTL were brought in to do a site test from the summit of the Great Orme, and it was agreed and priced up, that the signal would go out from the top of the Great Orme sharing the use of the Capitol FM transmitter (a sprig if you like). It was a done and dusted deal, taking into account the fact that Llandudno has a lot of open water surrounding it, therefore the signal had to go out in a particular direction (not many listeners in the Irish sea). But when the Director who had worked tirelessly to bring this about was forced into leaving through the inaction of others, the others disregarded all the work done, and eventually placed the transmitter on the Ty Hapus building, which meant that the signal strength did not provide the same cover and strength as that agreed for the transmitter on the Great Orme. A missed opportunity that TFM are now paying the price for. It was stupid not to continue with what had already been put in place.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 02:28:04 pm
I wish I knew how to put pictures up on here. I have copies of the orginal plans for the radio station which I feel sure everyone would like to see what was orginally proposed. It bears very little relation to what is currently in situ. Again they lost their way. Not the fault of those running the station now I hasten to add. At least I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 31, 2011, 02:32:09 pm
I am sure DaveR can help guide you as to how to upload photos.

If you are like me, you can always e-mail them to DaveR and he will be more than happy to carry out the task.

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 03:43:04 pm
Here's the coverage plot with colours = to signal. PINK being the strongest signal and BLUE being the weakest. But TFM did not use this for whatever reason.

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 03:44:55 pm
Here are the signal strengths colours = to strength of signal. A bit technical, but I hope you get the idea.

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 04:09:19 pm
Here is a plan of what Tudno FM studios was orginally planned to look like. An all self contained unit with the Ty Hapus complex. Money was sourced from Government to fund broadcasting equipment for each of the 4 studios, with each studio having exactly the same equipment in each. Meaning that anyone wanting to be trained up to do a show could be trained up in any studio and only need be trained up once, because all the equipment in each studio was identical. If you had 4 studios with different equipment in each, it would have meant 4 lots of training per person. Not a good idea.

Each studio was supposed to, as we say, 'Talk To Each Other', and be capable of each going 'Live On Air' at the touch of a button. One studio to be on air at any given time. One dedicated to News, one to avoid the need for 'Hot Seat Change Overs' / recording programmes, with the 4th studio being for training purposes to assist in funding bids to help financial sustainability.

You will see a circle in studio 1, that is the space needed for a wheelchair to get in and turn round. Important as 'Opportunity & Access For ALL' is key.

The Production Studio was to have a bank of computers that could be used for research purposes and for editing pre-recorded programmes that had been made in one of the 3 main studios, enabling the studio to be freed up quickly in order to allow others in to record their programmes (studio time is hard to find and can be expensive), whilst editing could be done in the production studio on a PC.

Also in the production studio there was to be an hexagonal studio table with several microphones for debates (face to face, with a technician in Studio ONE driving the programme whilst looking out through the studio window at the interview taking place. You should be able to make out on the plans that there was to be windows in each studio, so you could look from the production studio right down into studio 3.

But ALL this was never brought about, and I think it was complete madness not to do so.

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 04:19:44 pm
It was originally intended to have raked seating in the main hall at Ty Hapus. This was to be used by various community groups to put shows on etc. Tudno FM could have used that facility to hold Community debates (BBC Question Time type of thing). Seating was to be for 123 people. There was to be a link from the main hall into Tudno FM in order that Community debates could be broadcast 'Live' to the town. Imagine how wonderful that would have been, to have that facility to debate the topics of the Wind Farm, Hospital Services, Council Issues, Parking problems in town...I could go on. But again this never came to fruition and the Community lost out. It would have been great to have local councillors sat in front of a 'Live' studio audience asking them questions and have it go out 'LIVE ON AIR'....WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on June 01, 2011, 03:04:26 am
Derrick Orme seems to have wanted to base the station in an area of deprivation. Nice scenes here of the Tre Creuddyn Estate showing the mind boggling deprivation.  :-X

Tudno FM 2010.mov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAnZkz671_4#)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on June 01, 2011, 09:36:43 am
I recently obtained copies of Tudno FMs accounts up to 2010, and was flabbergasted to read that over a three year period, they have spent approx £93,000 on, wait for it, Consultants. Thats somewhere in the region of £100 a day, every day, for three years...ON CONSULTANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found that figure amazing and decided to take a look myself:

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends46/0001111946_ac_20100630_e_c.pdf (http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends46/0001111946_ac_20100630_e_c.pdf)

In the last year (2010) alone, £34,970 was spent on Consultancy Fees. Who is getting this money and what on earth is it needed for?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Yorkie on June 01, 2011, 09:52:15 am
At that rate it seems that they are employing consultants to see if they need consultants!    ;D

More often than not it is the consultants who pursuade people that they need a consultant!   ;)

Or is the money being drip fed to ????? under the guise of being consultancy fees?   I wonder if anyone from Tudno FM will stand up and give an answer?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on June 01, 2011, 06:54:42 pm
Tudno FM is situated where it is because it's in a Communities First area making it much easier to apply for grant funding. If it were outside of such an area, funding streams would not look too favourably on their applications for money. Grant funding is by no means an easy route to money though, you have to jump through many hoops. Forms are designed to put you off applying, not to help you. But if you are prepared to undertake such a vastly complicated and time consuming nightmare, then if you tick all the right boxes, you at least have a chance to succeed.

Derrick Orme has always been extremely helpful and knowledgable about such things. I know of one person who thinks very highly of him and calls him "The Funding Guru". He has of late been putting in many hours of volunteering at the station, in one week alone he put in around 34 hours.

I would like to think questions will begin to be asked regarding payments to Consultants. If you look near the back of each set of accounts you will see that some Trustees of the radio station did receive some consultancy fees (page 11 Item 7 year end 30th June 2010 - Page 11 Item 7 year end 30th June 2009 - Page 11 Item 7 Year End 30th June 2008) I'm led to understand that none of the Trustees who received a Consultancy fee are still involved with the station? But who was paid the other £60,000 plus in Consultancy fees, what for, and why etc etc.?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on June 02, 2011, 03:02:09 pm
Item 6:10 of the Community Radio Licence Application Form requires an applicant to, in a nutshell, ask the community what they want to hear on their Community Radio Station. As far as I am aware, the work needed to undertake the sourcing of that required information has never been carried out. Which means, all TFMs programming is in part pure guess work, and, I suggest, more often, purely left to presenter choice, as opposed to what it should be, i.e. Community led as a result of full consultation with the Community.

6.10     Tastes and Interests.  Section 105(1)(b) of the 1990 Broadcasting Act requires that, when considering a licence application, Ofcom takes into account the extent to which the applicant's proposals would cater for the tastes and interests of members of its target community (or communities).

When answering this question, please include findings from any research undertaken amongst members of your target community (or communities) together with any other information which demonstrates your understanding of their tastes and interests.  You should also provide evidence as to why your proposed programming (as previously described above) would be relevant and cater for such tastes and interests.[/b]

On numerous occasions, TFM have been pushed into carrying out the required work in relation to this legal obligation, someone even asked for times, dates and places as to where this work had been carried out, and received nothing in response. For goodness sake, if you are going to plan programming on any radio station you need to know who you target audience is, and in the case of a Community Radio Station, Ofcom request you to ask your target audience what they want to hear. An application must be accompanied by evidence that this work had been carried out. Copies of that evidence was requested by someone who lives in the town, but was never provided, I suggest because the work has never been done.

I would dearly love to see copies of any evidence TFM provided to Ofcom with their initial application, complete with full documented evidence of where, when and how the work was undertaken and by whom.

The following facts and figures correspond to the Colour = Signal Strength as shown above. This information is factual and based entirely on those who reside (at the time of the site survey), in the TFM transmission area. It gave TFM an idea as to who they would be broadcasting to. This taken together with the Ofcom Item 6:10 survey requirements in relation to what the Community wanted to listen to on their station, should have provided TFM with an excellent, and best opportunity possible, to get their programming right and in keeping with Community requirements and needs.




Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on June 02, 2011, 03:06:27 pm
More details

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on June 02, 2011, 03:08:02 pm
Interesting to know who lives in the town of Llandudno

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on June 02, 2011, 03:09:14 pm
We live in a rainbow are

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Waffagolf on June 02, 2011, 03:10:57 pm
Last bit for now, but there's more....All interesting and vital to TFM

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Llechwedd on October 18, 2011, 11:37:31 am
Where do you get all these "facts" and figures from?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Micox on October 18, 2011, 03:46:38 pm
Hello.

I wonder if someone from Tudno Radio could help out here:

Our small corner of south east Norfolk is passed over by the authorities when they make plans and develop policies for delivering services. It is a wide rural area made up of scattered small villages and farms.

I have been exploring the possibility of forming a service user led group to support independent living for disabled adults and elderly people and trying to think of ways to engage with the residents of this rural and excluded part of the world, especially those made captive by their impairments and unable to leave their homes.

After discounting internet conferencing - we do run a very successful internet Independent Living Group using Skype but involvement is limited by lack of computer equipment and willingness to use it, I have wondered about setting up a very local small radio station which would be ideal - effective for information giving and advocacy by phone in.

Could anyone please tell me what basic equipment would be required (grants are reasonably accessible) and what steps I would need to take to set up the basics.

Thanks and Heddwch.

Mike.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2012, 08:15:42 pm
Tudno FM has been given another grant, this time the sum of £13,400 from the Welsh Government.

I speak to many people in Llandudno and, being completely honest, not one person ever mentions listening to Tudno FM. Do any of our Members listen to it?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: dwsi on April 10, 2012, 08:35:40 pm
i have done in the past when people i know have been presenting. i have listened to tudno fm on the web
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 10, 2012, 09:24:48 pm
In my opinion, Tudno FM had a chance to proof its worth as a community radio station when we were all snowed in around Xmas time and it failed miserably.

That may have been Xmas 2010 as my memory is fading fast.

Anyway, I am afraid I stopped listening to it a long time ago.

If it has any hope of getting off the ground it should employ the services of Ian Turner who would turn its fortunes round in next to no time.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Nemesis on April 11, 2012, 09:51:03 am
Used to listen-- but there never seemed to be any local essential news, so stopped.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Ian on April 11, 2012, 09:59:49 am
Running a radio station is incredibly time-consuming and very hard work, going well beyond simply being a decent presenter.  The legislation covering public broadcasting is immense and you need a team of presenters, producers, engineers, cleaners, general office staff, not to mention accountants, solicitors, and advertising and publicity managers.  It's a very big task, and not one you can undertake lightly, or even as volunteers, entirely.  Add  to that the fact that advertising revenue has plummeted for all commercial broadcasters in the past five years and you'd need to be very brave to take it on.

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2012, 10:52:08 am
Tudno FM isn't allowed to run adverts, so has no real revenues. How can it be sustainable over the longer term?

The argument could be made that the Forum provides a far better interaction with the local community, with well over 9,000 visitors last month alone.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Pendragon on April 11, 2012, 12:49:22 pm
My youngest is on Tudno FM at 1pm today...The band is called Engage the Enemy and they're having an interview then playing a song live.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Ian on April 11, 2012, 03:34:58 pm
Quote
Tudno FM isn't allowed to run adverts, so has no real revenues. How can it be sustainable over the longer term?

I don't see how it can.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Fester on April 12, 2012, 12:00:44 am
Mrs Fester listens to Tudno FM in the kitchen whilst cooking.
Purely because of the decent mix of music they play.

I think the Forum deserves a grant from WAG for approx £200m.
Did I mention that I bought a 51% stake in this Forum earlier this year?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on August 02, 2012, 11:30:16 am
Someone has just told me about this comment on the TudnoFM Facebook page...how odd? You dont need to be a FB member tpo see it.

http://www.facebook.com/TudnoFM/posts/457588974269088 (http://www.facebook.com/TudnoFM/posts/457588974269088)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Fester on August 02, 2012, 11:47:17 pm
How bizarre..... any idea what caused the spat?
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2012, 09:08:39 am
Maybe the guy suggested that no-one listened to Tudno FM or something?
Title: Tudno FM Licence
Post by: Tudno_FM on March 19, 2013, 10:36:50 am
Tudno FM is proud to announce that our five year license has been extended until 2018 by regulators OFCOM.

This momentous decision means that the station can continue to grow and promote other charitable organisations.

We would like to thank all the volunteers, funders and importantly, the listeners that have made the station what it is today, without you all, we would not have been awarded the 5 year extension on the licence!

By granting us this extension, OFCOM have shown that they have faith in us to continue to grow and prosper!
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Yorkie on April 15, 2013, 06:31:10 pm
Well done Tudno FM.  You deserve it and have become a very successful local enterprise.  More power to you microphones, may you pound the airwaves for many years to come..
 $walesflag$
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2013, 07:01:12 pm
have become a very successful local enterprise.
...in what context? No one I know ever listens to it and I've never heard it mentioned by anyone in town? I'm not having a go at them, it's just the reality of it.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Yorkie on April 15, 2013, 08:14:05 pm
have become a very successful local enterprise.
...in what context? No one I know ever listens to it and I've never heard it mentioned by anyone in town? I'm not having a go at them, it's just the reality of it.

In the context that I believe they are giving a worth while service.   Many housewives listen to the local chat whilst doing their chores and I listen when in the reception area as a relief to Radio 4. I know of others who follow Tudno FM and I can assure you they are quite normal and intelligent locals. I have never heard a bad word said about them so am only able to give MY OPINION on what I perceive.   
 :D

Likewise there are many people who DO NOT read, or visit, this Forum but I would not think of condemning it just for that reason.  I will continue to give it my support as long as it is welcomed!
 ZXZ

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2013, 09:00:33 pm
That's good to hear.  $good$
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Yorkie on April 15, 2013, 09:47:35 pm
LOOK AT THE DATE - THINGS CHANGE.

I did say as a RELIEF to Radio 4, not that I listened 24 hours a day! D)

Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on April 16, 2013, 07:05:00 am
 $drink$
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Blongb on June 20, 2013, 04:43:14 pm
I have Tudno FM permanently tuned in on the car radio Dave, like a many other local listeners. Perhaps you need to get out more.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2013, 07:09:44 pm
I have Tudno FM permanently tuned in on the car radio Dave, like a many other local listeners.
How do you know that there are 'many other local listeners'? Just saying it does not make it true.

Perhaps you need to get out more.
Anyone who knows me knows that merits a :laugh:
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 20, 2013, 07:54:29 pm
Never in more like!  _))*
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Fester on June 20, 2013, 08:22:17 pm
Indeed, Dave I think you should get IN more,  I would save a fortune.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Trojan on June 24, 2013, 02:30:59 am
Indeed, Dave I think you should get IN more,  I would save a fortune.   :laugh:

 $lol$
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: born2run on June 24, 2013, 04:58:07 pm
Given the amount of easy access digital radio stations - the choice these days is amazing - I can get any radio station in the world on my i phone for example. I really am curious as the why people would go for Tudno FM? What exactly is good about it? (This is a genuine question, I'm not taking the proverbial)
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2013, 05:12:36 pm
After looking at Oscar's Blog, I decided to have a listen to Tudno FM to see what all the fuss was about.

I started listening at 4.10pm and it is now 1 hour later. According to their schedule, it is the 'Drivetime Show with Gary Carr'.

In the hour that I have been listening, not one word has been spoken by a Presenter!! There was no news at 5pm, it has just been back to back music for one hour solid. If I wanted to listen to that, I would just stick Spotify on!

How can this be a Community Radio Station, when there is zero interaction with the community it supposedly serves?

Very disappointing.
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Yorkie on November 11, 2013, 06:27:21 pm
It is in the Mostyn Ward, maybe I could get some Air-time and an interview to support me if I choose to stand?   $thanx$
Title: Re: Tudno F M
Post by: Minime on November 11, 2013, 10:25:01 pm
Tried it couple of weeks back.  Not really for me.  I like heart for travel news but lose them before halkyn.