Slow consensus seems to be that Llandudno is not in fact all that bad but needs to hedge its bets with those nice features it already has.
This is a long-standing concern of Wrex's; Llandudno's location and superb natural features make it a natural destination for those who delight in the natural world, but caring for the place in such a way as to maximise its natural advantages is or should be the priority of CCBC.
I'm still curious, however, about the main thrust of the original argument.
Ian, I thought I made my very first post crystal clear, but if not I'll try again.
Firstly, try and repeat your 30 minute survey on the Pier, or in Upper Mostyn St.... not at 9.30 am, but at 6pm in the evening.
Actually, you will need MUCH longer than 30mins to see anything like 282 people to assess at that time, so get yourself a flask and some sandwiches. Get me?
When you have completed the 282 person survey, I think your stats about ethnic origins will look VERY different.
Another criteria you neglected to put into your survey..... had they bought anything? Were they here to contribute to the economy in any way?
Born to Run.
Your obsession with the exclusions from The Snooze Bar is spiralling out of control.
I 100% agree with those exclusions, and I know exactly why they did it.
There is a hardcore of 'characters' who used to frequent The Parade, who returned when it re-opened as The Parade again.
When it closed, they moved on to The Queen Vic and Cooney's. Some then got barred from The Vic.
So, The Snooze re-opened and they drifted back in there. I'm taking about the sort of folk that are VERY anti-social, and you wouldn't want associated with your newly opened venture.
The Snooze Bar is excellent, stylish and welcoming, but certainly wouldn't be if the 'faces' that I referred to were to take up residency again.
Strangely enough, the crowd I am referring to tend to wear football shirts, and some other items of apparel listed on the sign you refer to!