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Title: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 16, 2011, 07:50:08 pm
Just a thread for me to point out interesting properties for sale in the North Wales area. Please feel free to add your own in if you spot any.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 16, 2011, 08:22:36 pm
First up is the former Ball & Boyd Auctions Rooms in Back Madoc Street, Llandudno. It's been empty for quite a few years now and the selling price has been steadily reduced to the current £290,000. It now has Planning Permission to be an indoor Market Hall.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=15&p=298&o=13 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=15&p=298&o=13)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 16, 2011, 10:39:12 pm
It might be a shorter list if we were to list the properties in Llandudno which are NOT for sale. 


The Parade Pub on Church Walks always strikes me as a potential goldmine of a property.

Given that The Queen Vic is thriving so well, a new and innovative restaurant or themed bar should rake it in.

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 16, 2011, 10:41:33 pm
'First up is the former Ball & Boyd Auctions Rooms in Back Madoc Street, Llandudno. It's been empty for quite a few years now and the selling price has been steadily reduced to the current £290,000. It now has Planning Permission to be an indoor Market Hall.'

I wish it could still be an auction house, I remember buying good second hand kitchern units there in 92 for a house we had in Blaenau Ffestiniog.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 09:08:35 am
I've always fancied the idea of having a Welsh themed bar concentrating on modern and traditional Welsh food like the Bistro in Conwy.  Surely most people are sick and tired of the usual "Brake brothers/Woodwards" frozen food.  A bit of Max Boyce and Tatws per Minud that's what Llandudno needs.  :D

Conwy could do with it too  $walesflag$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 09:13:08 am
It might be a shorter list if we were to list the properties in Llandudno which are NOT for sale. 


The Parade Pub on Church Walks always strikes me as a potential goldmine of a property.

Given that The Queen Vic is thriving so well, a new and innovative restaurant or themed bar should rake it in.


Maybe a Pie and Peas pub lol  $good$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 09:52:27 am
Maybe a Pie and Peas pub lol  $good$
Please don't encourage him...  :P  :laugh: It's a Yorkshire 'tradition' that has died out even there.

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 09:53:42 am
I've always fancied the idea of having a Welsh themed bar concentrating on modern and traditional Welsh food like the Bistro in Conwy.  Surely most people are sick and tired of the usual "Brake brothers/Woodwards" frozen food.  A bit of Max Boyce and Tatws per Minud that's what Llandudno needs.  :D

Conwy could do with it too  $walesflag$
Good idea.  $good$ Stick it in the Clarence Restaurant in Conwy:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=708&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=708&o=1)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 09:53:53 am
O Ye of Little Faith......   You'll end up on the outside, peering in with envious eyes!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 09:54:52 am
I've always fancied the idea of having a Welsh themed bar concentrating on modern and traditional Welsh food like the Bistro in Conwy.  Surely most people are sick and tired of the usual "Brake brothers/Woodwards" frozen food.  A bit of Max Boyce and Tatws per Minud that's what Llandudno needs.  :D

Conwy could do with it too  $walesflag$
Good idea.  $good$ Stick it in the Clarence Restaurant in Conwy:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=708&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=3&p=708&o=1)

There's your Freudian slip again... Its The CLEMENCE!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 09:58:13 am
O Ye of Little Faith......   You'll end up on the outside, peering in with envious eyes!
No, I'll be in Fat Cat, gorging myself on the 10z Rump Steak...  $dins$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 10:00:10 am
There's your Freudian slip again... Its The CLEMENCE!
Oh yeh, you're right...for once.  :laugh:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/189892743_83a6dbad9c_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/189892743/)
Clemence Restaurant, Conwy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/189892743/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 10:01:32 am
Ok who's up for making a killing then?  ;D
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 10:28:33 am
Hey you could even have a Welsh themed restaurant/cafe with all the photos for sale of the local area on the walls and a shop selling top class ointments and soaps etc at the back  $good$ $walesflag$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Barbiroli on June 17, 2011, 03:22:56 pm
Dave R and Fester could run your welsh themed restaurant Pen they have all the eqiupment. ;) ;)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 07:39:09 pm
Speaking purely for myself, I wouldn't run it.... but I sure might INVEST in it...
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 07:51:25 pm
I looked in Fester's brain...and this is what I saw...
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 07:59:08 pm
Nice.... but PIE-FEST has more of a ring to it.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 08:01:59 pm
Nice.... but PIE-FEST has more of a ring to it.
Yeh...the ring of bankruptcy.  :-X
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 08:04:30 pm
You just don't get it.... You'll be SORREEEE !!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 08:08:04 pm
Call me cynical..but I can't honestly see the more sophisticated appetites of today will be queuing up to eat this. What do other people think?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: hollins on June 17, 2011, 08:16:08 pm
If it's good enough for David Beckham......
Qoute from his facebook page,

"As you all would have guessed, I had to have some pie and mash before the event..."
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 08:46:31 pm
...and I do believe that you deliberately picked a very poor phot to illustrate your point...

Perhaps this is more appetising?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 08:56:41 pm
I would still prefer the 10oz Rump Steak from Fat Cat!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Yorkie on June 17, 2011, 09:13:53 pm
Call me cynical..but I can't honestly see the more sophisticated appetites of today will be queuing up to eat this. What do other people think?

I was brough up on Pie and Mash with lots of lovely liquor!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 09:58:44 pm
I would still prefer the 10oz Rump Steak from Fat Cat!

So would I !   ,.... at four times the price though.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Barbiroli on June 17, 2011, 10:26:33 pm
What liquor was that Yorkie? Whisky Gin Brandy. ;D ;D
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Yorkie on June 18, 2011, 07:36:35 am
What liquor was that Yorkie? Whisky Gin Brandy. ;D ;D

I must confess I get somewhat a little tired of pokes about alcohol when it has been made clear that I am teetotal (or almost).  I will not attempt to try and explain the idiosyncracies of the Cockney's eating habits but instead point you to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_and_mash (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pie_and_mash)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2011, 12:44:16 am
A bit touchy, aren't we Yorkie?  Z**
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Trojan on June 19, 2011, 05:45:01 am
I would still prefer the 10oz Rump Steak from Fat Cat!

So would I !   ,.... at four times the price though.

Had a 24oz Porterhouse steak dinner last night for $42.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Trojan on June 19, 2011, 05:46:53 am
 $dins$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2011, 08:39:38 am
Looks good.  $good$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Yorkie on June 19, 2011, 09:17:38 am
A bit touchy, aren't we Yorkie?  Z**

Sometimes - YES!   I can take a ribbing with the best of them but that extra "one over the eight" just gets my goat.  A lot of it is SPIRITless and just a poor attempt at humour at another person's expense.  PUBlishing such should be BARred.    _))*
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Barbiroli on June 19, 2011, 11:20:59 am
I`ll know not to pull your leg again Yorkie, :'( :'(
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Yorkie on June 19, 2011, 11:53:29 am
I`ll know not to pull your leg again Yorkie, :'( :'(

Oh - go on!   I'm in a better mood today!   :D

Got a little tickle on the Lottery.   ;)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 20, 2011, 12:41:59 am
I`ll know not to pull your leg again Yorkie, :'( :'(

Oh - go on!   I'm in a better mood today!   :D

Got a little tickle on the Lottery.   ;)

In that case, I'd like to say that the drinks are on you ... but that might cause another bad reaction??   ZXZ ZXZ Z**
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Barbiroli on June 20, 2011, 01:22:32 am
Thanks Fester You`r on my wave length.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Yorkie on June 20, 2011, 06:43:57 am
I`ll know not to pull your leg again Yorkie, :'( :'(

Oh - go on!   I'm in a better mood today!   :D

Got a little tickle on the Lottery.   ;)

In that case, I'd like to say that the drinks are on you ... but that might cause another bad reaction??   ZXZ ZXZ Z**

Always pleased to buy one for anyone, helps to keep my tax bill down!     L0L
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2011, 09:48:15 am
Latest property of interest is the Old Police Station in Caernarfon. A lovely big stone built building in a great location next to the Castle - and yours for just....£149k.

A Grade I listed former police Station situated within the castle walls in the town centre of Caernarfon. The spacious premises briefly comprise: Entrance Foyer, 3 Offices and 4 Former Cells, Inner Hall with Wc Off. To the first floor there are 4 Offices and 2 further Cells. There is a Lobby, Canteen, 3 Offices and an Ante Room.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 20, 2011, 07:40:44 pm
Looks like it would make a very imposing private house.

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2011, 07:43:32 pm
Indeed, and cheap as chips at that price. However, the Grade I Listing would be a pain to deal with - but Planners should realise that future opportunities for the property to remain as a police station are somewhat limited and relent slightly!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2011, 07:45:10 pm
Next door to the above building is the former County Court, a very imposing building and also for sale. No price mentioned but I'm guessing around £200k:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/5853648536_0da24b4f18_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5853648536/)
Caernarfon - June 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5853648536/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 20, 2011, 07:57:53 pm
There seems to be a squatter on the roof or is it a sitting tenant?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2011, 08:24:51 pm
You may have trouble evicting her, she's been a sitting tenant since 1863:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1017/1096141986_742900f7d9_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/martin97uk/1096141986/)
Blindfolded Statue, Caernarfonshire County Hall, Caerfarfon, Wales (http://www.flickr.com/photos/martin97uk/1096141986/#) by martin97uk (http://www.flickr.com/people/martin97uk/), on Flickr

Apparently, her scales of justice are stored within the court building after they fell off.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Barbiroli on June 21, 2011, 12:45:17 am
 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 21, 2011, 06:59:56 am
I see the seagull has nicked her icecream!  ;D
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 21, 2011, 08:55:00 am
I see the seagull has nicked her icecream!  ;D

Well spotted,, L0L L0L :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Nemesis on June 21, 2011, 11:02:12 am
Who Was ???? _))* _))* _))* Splat ! _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Trojan on June 23, 2011, 04:45:29 am
Looks good.  $good$

Went out for another recently. This is what my mate had - Canadian bacon with a Porterhouse.  ???

I just wish he would stop stealing the steak knife's.  :-[
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 23, 2011, 08:09:16 am
Went out for another recently.
Nice.  8) Was that down at Miami Beach?  :P  :laugh:
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Trojan on June 23, 2011, 08:42:06 pm
Went out for another recently.
Nice.  8) Was that down at Miami Beach?  :P  :laugh:

It was actually Oahu, Hawaii, Dave.

Strange, a hairy guy driving a Ferrari kept following us around.  ???
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 23, 2011, 10:16:02 pm
Went out for another recently.
Nice.  8) Was that down at Miami Beach?  :P  :laugh:

It was actually Oahu, Hawaii, Dave.
Do S&W have a branch there?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Trojan on June 24, 2011, 12:54:51 am
Went out for another recently.
Nice.  8) Was that down at Miami Beach?  :P  :laugh:

It was actually Oahu, Hawaii, Dave.
Do S&W have a branch there?

No, afraid not Dave, the above steak was eaten at one of S&W's New York locations.

This is the place for good steak on Oahu: http://www.ruthschris.com/Steak-House/6504/Honolulu/Oahu (http://www.ruthschris.com/Steak-House/6504/Honolulu/Oahu)

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 27, 2011, 12:37:51 pm
Oh, the 49th Street & Third Avenue one? Did you have the Filet Oscar at $41.50?  :laugh:
http://www.smithandwollenskynyc.com/menu/ (http://www.smithandwollenskynyc.com/menu/)

I still think a similar type of restaurant (albeit not so pricey) would do well in Llandudno.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 27, 2011, 12:38:57 pm
A very nice house/smallholding over at Meliden- good value at £250,000

http://www.mgmediasolutions.com/yrw/stapeley.html (http://www.mgmediasolutions.com/yrw/stapeley.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2011, 10:07:49 am
Anyone interested in a 13 bedroom hotel in centre of Barmouth? Yours for just £140k.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19123836.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19123836.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2011, 11:43:36 pm
Offers invited for BRIGHTON PIER.

An iconic structure, refurbished completely in recent years... and employing 300 people in peak season.

more here  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13956888 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13956888)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2011, 12:18:36 am
Offers invited for BRIGHTON PIER.

An iconic structure, refurbished completely in recent years... and employing 300 people in peak season.

more here  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13956888 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13956888)
Well Spotted. Will be interesting to see how much it goes for.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2011, 10:08:27 am
Brighton Pier: "The asking price for the pier has not been disclosed but it is expected to fetch between £10m and £50m"
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2011, 12:07:32 pm
I wonder if Six Piers will put in a bid?   ;D
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Trojan on June 30, 2011, 03:41:53 pm
I wonder if Six Piers will put in a bid?   ;D

They will have to change their name if they buy it.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2011, 10:00:46 pm
Their name should be Four Piers Ltd now if they wanted to be accurate, being as they have sold Southsea and Blackpool North this year.   ;D
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 08:45:21 pm
A two bedroom seafront apartment in Craig Y Don. Yours for £109,950 - reduced by £55,000!!! Looks very nice inside. I might make this one Dave's BARGAIN OF THE WEEK.

http://www.dezrez.com/DRApp/Search.ASP?WCI=Particular&WCE=002208597 (http://www.dezrez.com/DRApp/Search.ASP?WCI=Particular&WCE=002208597)
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19280238.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19280238.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on July 04, 2011, 01:01:35 am
Its only leasehold... its not worth it.

Property has to fall another 50 to 60% to be viable, when you look at the earnings 'stagnation' and the lack of available borrowing.

The good times are well and truly over.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2011, 09:00:29 am
It's probably a 999 year Lease, so a virtual freehold.

Nearly all flats/apartments are Leasehold...and do you know why?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Nemesis on July 04, 2011, 09:22:40 am
Alot are owned and maintained round here by Mostyns. Only thing is they don't practice what they preach on their terms of lease. Mostyn flats that I can see from my front window haven't had the rendering painted in the last 13 years---"Exterior areas of the property must be painted every 4 years to a colour scheme approved by Mostyn Estates".
 Phoo piffle !
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Llechwedd on July 04, 2011, 12:14:45 pm
Yeah I remember years ago Mostyns trying to stop my Mother having the window frames of our house in Tudno Street painted pale pink and cream she ignored them.  George Hiller had purple paint on his!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on July 08, 2011, 07:55:18 pm
How about a 4 bedroom farmhouse in Llysfaen for £50,000?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34283180.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34283180.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on July 08, 2011, 10:53:46 pm
How about a 4 bedroom farmhouse in Llysfaen for £50,000?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34283180.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-34283180.html)

Interesting, thats the same price as that entirely derelict one-bedroom terraced cottage on the Gt Orme,  no comparison.

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2011, 08:49:40 am
The Economist is saying that house prices in the UK are still overvalued by 27%.  In the USA, houses are now undervalued by 11%, following a 33% fall since 2006.  These figures are calculated against a long term average of price to rents ratio.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Ian on July 10, 2011, 09:10:15 am
Quote
The Economist is saying that house prices in the UK are still overvalued by 27%.
 


That's probably about right for most of the UK and it'll be even  more for London, I'm guessing.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 09:26:32 pm
The Balmoral Apartments have just been released for sale, with a 3 bedroom apartment for £150k. It's the old Balmoral Holiday Flats building at the corner of Trinity Square. They had a load of Chinese workmen in to carry out all the building work.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30847210.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-30847210.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Michael on July 21, 2011, 09:36:20 pm
Are you serious about the Chinese builders?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 09:44:52 pm
Are you serious about the Chinese builders?
Yep. I only ever saw Chinese men working on the property, didn't look as if they spoke English to me. Probably a very cheap way of getting the job done.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on July 21, 2011, 10:55:30 pm
Hmm, it will make for velly interesting meetings when the Building Control inspectors turn up at each of the six required stages.

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2011, 09:17:09 pm
Decent sized house with great views on Cwlach road coming up for auction next month - guide price £170k:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19632507.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19632507.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on August 11, 2011, 10:36:11 pm
Hmm, very interesting property... no information about the house's condition or any internal pictures.

If it was in good nick, I would expect a house like that to be £350k to £400k

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SDQ on August 11, 2011, 11:50:08 pm
Sometimes they deliberately set the guide price low to generate plenty of interest.
Sprat to catch a mackerel so to speak.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on August 12, 2011, 08:10:02 am
I don't think the price is that low, to be honest. Lack of car parking is a big problem on that road and, judging purely by the photo, the house itself looks to be in need of renovation.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2011, 09:38:12 am
Difficult access in bad weather too!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: dwsi on August 13, 2011, 05:54:39 pm
And the Orme goats come a visting  ;D
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Nemesis on August 13, 2011, 08:59:22 pm
Noticed in an estate agent's window today that St Katherine's ( same area) is for sale.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on August 16, 2011, 12:16:38 pm
Hmm, very interesting property... no information about the house's condition or any internal pictures.

If it was in good nick, I would expect a house like that to be £350k to £400k
I took a look when I went past on Sunday, looks to be 4 flats at present.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Mikethewatch on August 16, 2011, 01:56:39 pm
The place is in a dreadful state bordering on uninhabitable.
How the flats were ever let is beyond belief.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2011, 08:19:40 pm
The Jenivore hotel on Arvon Ave is going up for auction - a 12 bedroom Hotel with a guide price of just £170,000! Worth buying to convert into a large family home.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19936872.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19936872.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2011, 08:22:22 pm
Decent sized house with great views on Cwlach road coming up for auction next month - guide price £170k:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19632507.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19632507.html)
Full details are here:
http://www.eigroup.co.uk/imagelib/lotphotos/edm/20110913/50.pdf (http://www.eigroup.co.uk/imagelib/lotphotos/edm/20110913/50.pdf)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SDQ on September 10, 2011, 08:56:43 pm
The Jenivore hotel on Arvon Ave is going up for auction - a 12 bedroom Hotel with a guide price of just £170,000! Worth buying to convert into a large family home.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19936872.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19936872.html)

It says it's leasehold on a ten year lease at £12k per annum!   :o
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2011, 09:11:16 pm
It says it's leasehold on a ten year lease at £12k per annum!   :o
I believe it's known as having your cake and eating it...  ;)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2011, 09:16:52 pm
Interesting property in Towyn for £195k:

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=736&o=13 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=736&o=13)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on September 12, 2011, 11:16:47 pm
In need of total renovation, throughout the whole site.... what would you do with that site in Towyn, Dave?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 13, 2011, 08:15:50 am
In need of total renovation, throughout the whole site.... what would you do with that site in Towyn, Dave?
Sell tat to tourists, of course!  :laugh:
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2011, 10:23:57 am
Kinmel Hall, near Abergele, is going up for auction next month - guide price £1.5m. It had been up for sale at £3.5m until recently. A fantastic building, often referred to as the 'Welsh Versailles'.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/09/21/2m-knocked-off-auction-guide-price-for-kinmel-hall-55578-29458224/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/09/21/2m-knocked-off-auction-guide-price-for-kinmel-hall-55578-29458224/)

Couple more photos here:
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=63878 (http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=63878)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 07:10:54 pm
A fantastic and incredible building.... is it unoccupied?

I heard it said a while ago that footballer Michael Owen was either buying it or already owned it.

Obviously its not true.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2011, 07:16:41 pm
Michael Owen lives at Hawarden, I think, although I have heard his name mentioned. It's been unoccupied for many years and the owners have been a succession of hopeful investors hoping to make a killing on it. The obvious use would be for a country house hotel with golf course but the drawback is that it doesn't have much land with it.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 07:19:44 pm
Not much land??  But Golf required? ... well that might be of interest to a certain pitch and putt meister of our acquaintance... with a very familiar name!
Maybe the rumours were right after all!   ;) ;)

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2011, 07:25:27 pm
 :laugh: Well, Mike already controls municipal golf in the Llandudno area, so it's a relatively small jump upwards for him...  $good$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Michael on September 21, 2011, 11:38:33 pm
Huh ----- Huh  ---- well. as a matter of fact, I do know this building ---- well.   And I knew Eddie mentioned in the prospective.   And ---- Ive worked there.    (Actually doing a bit of semi legal work on the roof about 30 years ago)     No, I changed that.  ILLEGAL
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 22, 2011, 08:39:48 am
I hope you were putting the roof on and not taking it off, Mike!

The 'Eddie' would have been Eddie Vance? The guy that had a vision from God one night that told him to buy Kinmel Hall and make it into a Christian conference centre?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Pendragon on September 30, 2011, 11:49:52 am
Driving through Pen the other day I noticed the old railway station is up for auction on the 2nd October.

http://www.lshauctions.co.uk/PDF/8-25114.pdf (http://www.lshauctions.co.uk/PDF/8-25114.pdf)

I lived there in the early 90s for 2 years.  it was an excellent flat with loads of rooms.  Original features throughout including old fireplaces, lath and horse hair walls and even an old pantry.  I loved it there.....the parties were amazing with no neighbours to upset.  Funny enough the trains never used to bother us either not even the 2am mail train that made the whole building shake.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 30, 2011, 08:18:25 pm
Driving through Pen the other day I noticed the old railway station is up for auction on the 2nd October.

http://www.lshauctions.co.uk/PDF/8-25114.pdf (http://www.lshauctions.co.uk/PDF/8-25114.pdf)

I lived there in the early 90s for 2 years.  it was an excellent flat with loads of rooms.  Original features throughout including old fireplaces, lath and horse hair walls and even an old pantry.  I loved it there.....the parties were amazing with no neighbours to upset.  Funny enough the trains never used to bother us either not even the 2am mail train that made the whole building shake.
A friend of mine also lived there in the mid 90s, he worked at the First Chance Pine shop that was on the ground floor.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2011, 09:34:07 pm
How about an 8 bedroom Victorian townhouse in Rhyl for £60,000?

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-20240853.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-20240853.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2011, 10:45:30 pm
This fabulous old corner building in Rhyl at 56 Water Street is currently up for sale...at just £99,500.

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6216/6228029450_252e690492_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6228029450/)
For Sale (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6228029450/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on October 10, 2011, 08:40:01 am
Maybe it would make a great registered office for a certain property / investment company Dave?     ;) ;)

It is certainly going to be needed 'any day now!'   Z**
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2011, 09:45:21 am
Maybe it would make a great registered office for a certain property / investment company Dave?     ;) ;)

It is certainly going to be needed 'any day now!'   Z**
It would be perfect, as long as we can pick it up and move it to Llandudno!  :laugh:
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: hollins on October 13, 2011, 09:49:21 am
Kinmel Hall, near Abergele, is going up for auction next month - guide price £1.5m. It had been up for sale at £3.5m until recently. A fantastic building, often referred to as the 'Welsh Versailles'.



I like your interesting properties thread DaveR. I was fascinated to see the Kinmel Hall one so I looked up the auction results from last night's auction. I says "deferred" by it so I presume there was no interest?
Here is a link to the auction results page. There are some very unusual sounding propeties on there.

http://www.lshauctions.co.uk/resultslist.asp (http://www.lshauctions.co.uk/resultslist.asp)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on October 13, 2011, 10:25:51 am
Kinmel Hall was pulled from the auction due to the legal pack not being ready on time.

Property Auctions are always interesting, as they attract the most unusual properties that would be difficult to sell normally.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: hollins on October 13, 2011, 11:47:23 am
Thanks for the info DaveR. A mine of information as usual!
Have you ever been able to have a look around it? I have read about its history and previous uses. There are still stately home road signs to it from the A55 but when you get to the entrance it says private property.
There are quite a few photos and this link and the original asking price of offers in excess of £15,000,000!

http://www.derbyshireinvestments.co.uk/property_details.asp?property_id=3 (http://www.derbyshireinvestments.co.uk/property_details.asp?property_id=3)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on October 13, 2011, 12:44:46 pm
£15m was true optimism from the owners...  &shake&

This was the closest I've got to it (so far), a view through the side entrance gate:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1135/1425318658_16010b3208_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/1425318658/)
Kinmel Hall, Abergele (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/1425318658/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: dwsi on October 26, 2011, 10:17:41 pm
House to Rent | Llandudno | South Africa | 7B421C http://bit.ly/vQSj1J (http://bit.ly/vQSj1J)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: hollins on November 08, 2011, 10:48:22 pm
Just seen on the news that this lighthouse has been put up for sale.

http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/107792/offers-invited-over-100-000-to-buy-talacre-lighthouse.aspx (http://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/107792/offers-invited-over-100-000-to-buy-talacre-lighthouse.aspx)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: suepp on November 08, 2011, 11:02:41 pm
I visited Kinmel Hall once years ago, it is huge and rambling and the grounds are extensive and stunning, but the upkeep must be an absolute nightmare. There must be rooms in there that no-one has been in for years. 
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on December 09, 2011, 10:33:58 pm
Kinmela Hall was sold before the Auction for £1.5m. Speculation is that buyer is Sir Terry Matthews, who plans to transform it into a top hotel.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2011, 07:34:43 pm
A 7 bedroom detached house is on sale in St Davids Road for £195,000:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-29542135.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-29542135.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2012, 09:52:27 pm
The old Prince Of Wales Hotel in Caernarfon is up for sale at £250k. That's a lot of building for your money.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: hollins on February 10, 2012, 04:56:10 pm
Kinmela Hall was sold before the Auction for £1.5m. Speculation is that buyer is Sir Terry Matthews, who plans to transform it into a top hotel.

This place facinates me. I would love to have a look around but this is as far as I got today
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: dwsi on February 10, 2012, 06:38:29 pm
H from Steps is selling his country pile, any takers?
Coed Mawr Hall, Rowen, Conwy | House for sale with Strutt & Parker. http://bit.ly/zoE9oT (http://bit.ly/zoE9oT)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on February 10, 2012, 06:44:18 pm
Bit overpriced, in my view....  &shake&
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: dwsi on February 10, 2012, 06:51:51 pm
you do get 3 self-catering cottages in the price
Conwy Self Catering Cottages, Snowdonia National Park, North Wales http://bit.ly/wBXm9C (http://bit.ly/wBXm9C)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2012, 10:24:28 pm
I always think it's a bit sad when you see an old chapel for sale, with the congregation obviously having dwindled to the point where it is no longer economic to carry on.

Here is one such case, the interior and fittings are fantastic but you can see that maintenance must have been getting too much for them:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-33392935.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-33392935.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: dwsi on March 09, 2012, 11:22:42 pm
6 bedroom detached house for sale in Llangelynin, Henryd, LL32 http://bit.ly/wvUax8 (http://bit.ly/wvUax8)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2012, 11:31:35 pm
That's the one Pendragon had a little nose around on one of her walks a couple of months ago. Potentially very nice but overpriced, I think*. Should be around £250,000 to reflect the fact its semi derelict.

* Dave Rule No.1 - All property is overpriced...unless I'm selling it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on March 11, 2012, 12:00:21 am
I've heard that Carol, (the Landlady and owner of the Queen Victoria pub in Church Walks) was the successful buyer of The Elms hotel.

If thats the case, then it makes sense because she was the owner of the Hen-Dy hotel on North Parade for many years.
She runs a very good business at The Vic these days.

On another level, it doesn't make sense, as she retired from he hotel trade a few year ago, and was tempted out of retirement to re-invigorate The Vic.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Paddy on March 14, 2012, 03:09:23 pm
When I grow up I want to live in a house like this!

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-31508560.html?premiumA=true (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-31508560.html?premiumA=true)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Llechwedd on March 15, 2012, 01:10:33 pm
Ideal by a lake with mountains in the background.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on March 15, 2012, 01:29:57 pm
Great interior...but looks like a Tourist Information Centre from the outside...  &shake&
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Paddy on March 15, 2012, 09:22:05 pm
DaveR, forget the exterior, and the interior. TURNTABLE GARAGE. You want one!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 15, 2012, 10:42:29 pm
DaveR, forget the exterior, and the interior. TURNTABLE GARAGE. You want one!

The garage of my dreams for my cars  D)  ^*^0 ^*^0
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on March 16, 2012, 12:35:56 am
DaveR, forget the exterior, and the interior. TURNTABLE GARAGE. You want one!

It's an underground house.... it looks fantastic.... but where will I put the plethora of recycling bins?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2012, 08:26:03 am
Interesting little property in Llanfairfechan for someone who wants a character home on a tight budget:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19305756.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-19305756.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Llechwedd on March 29, 2012, 12:04:22 pm
There's a house in Clapham, south London which has a Ferrari owner.  He drives on to the tarmac, presses a button and the car disappears down into the depths on a hidden lift.  When he wants to go out presses a button, up it comes, the turn table moves and the car is now pointing outwards to the road!  Needless to say he's a City boy.  I gaped in amazement the first time I saw him do it.  Unless you see it, you wouldn't know it's there, just a suburban garden.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 01, 2012, 09:49:16 pm
Yes that's right Carol the owner of the Queen Vic is a Tennant and therefore rents the queen Vic of some brewery. she has reputedly bought the elms as a bankrupt business for just 250k a bargain worth coming out of retirement for . and the perfect opportunity to possibly double your money less a few expenses 250 =500 less 80 leaves a profit of 420 less 250 = 170 nice to retire on.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: dwsi on April 21, 2012, 10:26:43 pm
HM Stanley Hospital, St Asaph, Denbighshire http://bit.ly/I1SLje (http://bit.ly/I1SLje)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on April 21, 2012, 10:40:53 pm
HM Stanley Hospital, St Asaph, Denbighshire http://bit.ly/I1SLje (http://bit.ly/I1SLje)
I was born there. ???
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on April 21, 2012, 10:58:20 pm
HM Stanley Hospital, St Asaph, Denbighshire http://bit.ly/I1SLje (http://bit.ly/I1SLje)
I was born there. ???

Wow, I wonder if there is a plaque there commemorating that fact?   :laugh: :laugh:

8.3 acres eh?  I assume it will be demolished and the land used for housing then?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Michael on April 22, 2012, 06:27:56 pm
You are not alone. Virtually everyone aged between say 12 and 60 who lives around here and was born locally were born there
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Karen and Derek on April 23, 2012, 12:14:34 pm
You are not alone. Virtually everyone aged between say 12 and 60 who lives around here and was born locally were born there

Everyone east of Penrhyn Bay that is.

St David's, Bangor was another major maternity hospital.

I myself was born in the Oxford Road hospital in Llandudno.

Cheers,

Derek.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 23, 2012, 04:55:15 pm
I was born in Oxford Road too and went back there again today.  It's now a Physiotherapy clinic etc and I went to see the physiotherapist. the pains of growing old!    :(
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2012, 08:14:19 am
The house of the late Gordon Lorenz in Craigside has just gone on the market:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-22739160.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-22739160.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on April 24, 2012, 11:40:02 pm
Mr Lorenz's lounge looks remarkably like the interior of The Albion Pub in Conwy.  :)   Z**

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2012, 09:32:14 am
Sort of property related...Colin Flannigan of St David's Commercial Estate Agents ran a little competition on Twitter yesterday as part of the Olympic Torch excitement, he offered to donate £50 to Hope House/Ty Gobaith Childrens Hospice if anyone could guess the number of properties on the St Davids books that the Torchbearer would pass as they ran through central Colwyn Bay.

I (naturally enough) tried to fiddle it slightly by looking at his website, but in the end, settled for a guess of 8. Oddly enough, it turned out to be the correct answer and Colin will be sending the cheque for £50 to Sarah Kearsley-Wooller this morning.

Thank you, Colin, very kind of you.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2012, 07:33:35 pm
Whilst in Beaumaris today, I took a look at this property, its the derelict old Aquarium, situated on the banks of the Menai Straits with spectacular views across to Snowdonia (and Llandudno the other way). With a large outside terrace area, I'm amazed it hasn't been snapped up for use as a cafe/restaurant:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/7782903624_68c7e93bc1_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/7782903624/)
Beaumaris Aquarium (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/7782903624/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Cordyline on October 28, 2012, 06:28:47 pm
This old church  looks interesting; sad to see the change of use but with a decent architect and builder could be made into a lovely home
Up for auction in November

Here (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-35932039.html?backListLink=%2Fproperty-for-sale%2Fmap.html%3FlocationIdentifier%3DUSERDEFINEDAREA%5E%7B%22id%22%3A457095%7D%23_includeSSTC%3Don%26auction%3Dfalse%26locationIdentifier%3DUSERDEFINEDAREA%255E%257B%2522id%2522%253A457095%257D%26previousSearchLocation%3DGarth%2520(Drawn%2520Area)%26radius%3D0.0%26searchLocation%3DGarth%2520(Drawn%2520Area)%26searchType%3DSALE%26useLocationIdentifier%3Dfalse%26box%3D-3.82642%2C-3.79766%2C53.31524%2C53.32539%26popupPropertyId%3D35932039%26mapType%3DMap&fromMap=true)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 28, 2012, 06:44:51 pm
Bryan Davies & Associates sold it at auction in the Imperial Hotel a couple of years ago along with the house behind it in Mostyn Avenue.

I only know because I went along.

I notice it has now got planning consent to convert it into a private residence.

I am surprised to see it described on Rightmove as a two bedroom terraced house.  :o

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Cordyline on October 28, 2012, 07:06:13 pm
Interesting Bri R; also for sale is this annex
Here (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-23148144.html)
Looking at the Street View in  this advert can be seen the house and annex were being renovated at the same time, both have new window stickers
Still not rated for council tax

Would it have been Church;  Presbytery; and Vicarage ?

If I had enough £££ we would love to own the annex
Cordy
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on October 28, 2012, 07:08:26 pm
I viewed that property before it went to Auction, the attached house was in a shocking state but the Chapel was fairly sound. It looks a touch overpriced to me, I would suggest £80k as a fair guide price.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 29, 2012, 08:53:42 am
It now looks as if the attached house at the rear of the chapel may now be two houses.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2013, 02:37:38 pm
I see that the Cotton Traders building in Mostyn St recently sold at Auction for just £365,000, lower than the Guide Price of£380,000 - £400,000, even though Cotton Traders are paying £50k per annum rent. Interesting how commercial property prices along Mostyn St seem to have fallen quite sharply in recent years.

http://www.auction.co.uk/commercial/LotDetails.asp?A=817&RQ=SR&MP=85&ID=817000099&S=L&O=A (http://www.auction.co.uk/commercial/LotDetails.asp?A=817&RQ=SR&MP=85&ID=817000099&S=L&O=A)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2013, 09:13:00 am
The Imperial Hotel building in Colwyn Bay is back up for sale - £495k. Not a bad price for such a large property, especially with an income of £28k from the bits that are still let.

http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=&p=971&o=1 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=&p=971&o=1)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2013, 10:35:06 am
A 4 bedroom detached house in Craigside for just £199k? Ideal fixer upper opportunity.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42418244.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42418244.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 11, 2013, 12:31:29 pm
That could be an amazing place with some work!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 27, 2013, 09:14:04 am
A former Church in Wrexham for just £35,000:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-40898296.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-40898296.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Jack on November 23, 2013, 09:23:13 pm
This house and the legend attached has always fascinated me since I was a kid. Shame I can't afford it!

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42971267.html?premiumA=true (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-42971267.html?premiumA=true)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 23, 2013, 10:41:28 pm
I've liked that house for some time now, I had not heard of the legend before though!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Ian on November 24, 2013, 08:55:32 am
I believe it used to be owned by one Colonel Batchelor, of the Peas fame. I remember it in the late '50s, as a nipper, and not a lot seems to have changed.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: white rabbit on November 24, 2013, 07:38:03 pm
I tought it belonged to Victor Wilde who lived there in the 60's
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2013, 08:05:24 pm
Every time I pass that house, I always think it looks very spooky, and very unloved.

I wonder if it needs a lot of upgrading?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2013, 08:07:19 pm
Every time I pass that house, I always think it looks very spooky, and very unloved.

I wonder if it needs a lot of upgrading?
It looks a touch old fashioned in some of the photos.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2013, 08:11:44 pm
Precisely, which is probably why only 2 of the 23 pictures are of the interior.

The kitchen, bathrooms and lounge can't be very easy on the eye I imagine.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2013, 08:14:53 pm
A very sage observation, Mr Fester.  $good$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2013, 08:38:50 pm
I tought it belonged to Victor Wilde who lived there in the 60's

"A very kind and generous man"  are the words on his gravestone.  He was a philanthropist and gave many plots of land to the Colwyn Borough Council and was given the Freedom of the Borough in 1966 at the same time as Sidney Colwyn Foulkes.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Linda on November 25, 2013, 12:50:24 am
Interesting to see the Sale info on this house, Iv always admired it and wondered what it was like inside, I guess i will never no after seeing the price tag. Still the gardens are lovely so much potential and history. I often wondered if the basement ever got flooded it must be below sealevel. I remember renting a house for a short time whilst waiting to move into ours on Penrhryn Ave and the old coal store in the side of the house had a further hole down under the house and a certain high tides was full of water   :o
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Yorkie on November 25, 2013, 07:20:55 am
Surely, that was the indoor swimming pool?    L0L
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2013, 07:59:04 am
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It looks a touch old fashioned in some of the photos.

The exterior is redolent of old colonial houses.  I assumed the Colonel (possibly the previous owner to Wilde?) had been in India at some point.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Linda on November 25, 2013, 12:14:35 pm
Surely, that was the indoor swimming pool?    L0L

 :roll: very funny Yorkie!  I maybe should have sat in the old coal hole  with a fishing pole daggling my feet in the murky dark water Arhhhh!
 
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Jack on February 05, 2014, 07:46:08 am
The former Drummond Hotel and more recently National Trust offices are up for sale:

http://www.bacommercial.com/properties.php?property=607 (http://www.bacommercial.com/properties.php?property=607)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Cordyline on June 21, 2014, 11:36:54 am
Farm on Great Orme
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-46843589.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-46843589.html)

Soon be snapped up at that price; Freehold too !
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 21, 2014, 02:32:38 pm
That's the one that did cream teas years ago! Very nice!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 21, 2014, 04:49:25 pm
They guy that owns the Cable Cars lives there.

I wouldn't say it was fantastic value myself.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Yorkie on June 21, 2014, 04:51:17 pm
Farm on Great Orme
Soon be snapped up at that price; Freehold too !

Personally, I would make a thorough check on the Freehold tag!   One my find that Mostyn may have an involvment!    ZXZ
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 21, 2014, 11:44:26 pm
It's Pyllau Farm isn't it?

It's nice enough, but it's certainly not worth anything like half a million.

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Cordyline on June 22, 2014, 12:01:55 am
Seven acres on the Great Orme must make it of interest;  a sellers market too !

Time will tell  $walesflag$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on August 11, 2014, 11:48:46 pm
Recently, Dave R invested in an excellent top-of-the-range Bosch washing machine.

So, when I saw this today, I instantly thought of you mate!  :laugh:

 
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on August 12, 2014, 12:10:12 pm
Recently, Dave R invested in an excellent top-of-the-range Bosch washing machine.

So, when I saw this today, I instantly thought of you mate!  :laugh:
Cheers, mate!  $good$
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on November 29, 2014, 08:30:53 pm
Interesting properties, plus Dave R likes abandoned buildings,  so I thought I would post this collection of abandoned mansions here, for your delectation. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30004491 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-30004491)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Mr Tunnock on April 14, 2015, 04:15:22 pm
Parc Farm Great Orme Llandudno.
For sale in the region of £1,000,000.
Stunning.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-34092897.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-34092897.html)

Any idea who owns the farm, is it the Jones's?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2015, 07:42:23 pm
Parc Farm Great Orme Llandudno.
For sale in the region of £1,000,000.
Stunning.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-34092897.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-34092897.html)

Any idea who owns the farm, is it the Jones's?
£1m seems a bit steep for a bungalow and a few fields to me, even if the views are stunning.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 14, 2015, 08:25:48 pm
I'm surprised that the bungalow ever got planning permission in the first place because of its location to the actual farmland and farm buildings. 
Perhaps it was always the intention to sell it in two lots.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: hollins on September 09, 2015, 01:53:52 pm
Just seen on the news that this lighthouse is for sale on the Isle of Man. I remember seeing it when I was there. It is in a fantastic position, well it was on the fine weather day that I was there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-34187502 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-34187502)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2015, 09:19:34 am
Just seen on the news that this lighthouse is for sale on the Isle of Man. I remember seeing it when I was there. It is in a fantastic position, well it was on the fine weather day that I was there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-34187502 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-34187502)
It would be a great base for that beach cleaning charity mentioned in the article.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2015, 10:43:31 am
This list of buildings at risk features Kinmel Hall, just outside Abergele. I had no idea it had been dubbed the 'Discount Downton' though, it's usually referred to as the 'Welsh Versailles'. I love how 'There was even a room dedicated for the ironing of the family’s daily newspaper.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/architecture/kinmel-hall-the-welsh-versailles-lies-derelict-and-unloved--who-will-come-to-its-rescue-10502644.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/architecture/kinmel-hall-the-welsh-versailles-lies-derelict-and-unloved--who-will-come-to-its-rescue-10502644.html)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34262313 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34262313)

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on September 16, 2015, 03:18:50 pm
I saw that article on BBC News online today.... it's incredibly sad to see the dereliction of so many fantastic structures.

Particularly poignant I thought were Birbeck Pier, and the Ironwork Colonnade in Brighton.

Well worth a look.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2015, 08:36:14 am
This was the closest I ever got to Kinmel:  :laugh:
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2015, 02:51:46 pm
If you could get in it would be fantastic,  one could spend an entire day exploring it, but still not really do it justice.

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 18, 2015, 08:42:20 am
If you could get in it would be fantastic,  one could spend an entire day exploring it, but still not really do it justice.
Indeed, this aerial photo shows how vast it is:
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on June 23, 2016, 07:37:26 pm
When we had a walk along the front in Llanfairfechan  we passed some nice art deco style properties with immaculate gardens.   One in particular was our favourite and it had a nice conversion at the rear of the property.
A lovely location on a nice day like today but I bet it's quite exposed there in the Winter
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Jack on June 23, 2016, 08:58:02 pm
Think they are some of Herbert Luck North designed houses - absolutely stunning.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 23, 2016, 09:51:05 pm
We love that house too!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on June 23, 2016, 10:30:20 pm
You are right Jack and it's also a listed building.  I drove down West Shore Llanfairfechan which is where that little cottage with the balcony and eyebrow window is and it's a lovely building.
The front garden was truly immaculate and it must take a lot of care and maintenance to keep it looking so perfect.
After that we had a drive around "The Close"  which was designed by the builder that Jack mentioned.    Everything in the street is listed, even the post box stuck in the stone pillar and I would recommend it for a visit some time, if anyone hasn't already seen the street.
I didn't take any photos of The Close this time though.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2017, 11:08:27 am
The old Court in Caernarfon is up for sale, very imposing building:
http://www.beresfordadams.co.uk/buy/property/8-bedroom-semi-detached-house-in-caernarfon,ll55-ref-4039734/ (http://www.beresfordadams.co.uk/buy/property/8-bedroom-semi-detached-house-in-caernarfon,ll55-ref-4039734/)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on June 12, 2017, 06:51:20 pm
A snip at £625K for one of Mr Alan Waldron's  3 bed semi detached houses.   

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjEtYKt5rjUAhWJL8AKHVWhAMMQFggiMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rightmove.co.uk%2Fdeveloper%2Fbranch%2FQuay-Developments%2FThe-Reserve-165107.html&usg=AFQjCNHBrXMI-c404kBRtIEt6SDwY8j48A (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjEtYKt5rjUAhWJL8AKHVWhAMMQFggiMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rightmove.co.uk%2Fdeveloper%2Fbranch%2FQuay-Developments%2FThe-Reserve-165107.html&usg=AFQjCNHBrXMI-c404kBRtIEt6SDwY8j48A)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Ian on June 12, 2017, 07:17:20 pm
They seem to be on top of each other. Very closely spaced.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 12, 2017, 10:17:03 pm
How  much !! £695,000 !!!!!!! For a 3 bedroom house, no garage, parking like a supermarket car park!  Oh and they are far too close together and they look hideous ! Nice view though!  Bonkers, totally bonkers !  &shake&
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 12, 2017, 10:25:10 pm
I'm sure these monstrosities were designed by primary school children using Lego, in fact I will refer to it as Lego land ! However was this allowed ?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2017, 09:12:14 am
I'm sure these monstrosities were designed by primary school children using Lego, in fact I will refer to it as Lego land ! However was this allowed ?
The focus these days is on squeezing more and more houses onto every plot of land. It's not just Developers trying to do it, the Govt is actively encouraging them.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 13, 2017, 09:38:01 am
Not what I would expect for a house costing £695,000, I would expect much more space , large garden and at least a double garage for that budget! 
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on June 13, 2017, 10:42:28 am
I'm sure these monstrosities were designed by primary school children using Lego, in fact I will refer to it as Lego land ! However was this allowed ?
The focus these days is on squeezing more and more houses onto every plot of land. It's not just Developers trying to do it, the Govt is actively encouraging them.

You can see it all around this area now, no more bungalow estates like they had in the 60's and 70's but large 3 storey houses built on postage stamp size plots
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on June 13, 2017, 05:38:28 pm
I'm sure these monstrosities were designed by primary school children using Lego, in fact I will refer to it as Lego land ! However was this allowed ?

ME you can't have two Lego Lands in the area as there is already one in Deganwy where the old Lido was.      Don't forget that this is the same developer who  has put in the application for the Pier Pavilion.           &shake&
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 13, 2017, 10:35:57 pm
Sounds like I don't like a single thing that this bloke does !
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 13, 2017, 11:35:26 pm
Sounds like I don't like a single thing that this bloke does !

Deganwy Quay hotel and Spa was one of his, and it's fantastic.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: bigbadhenry on June 14, 2017, 11:10:02 am
I'm sure these monstrosities were designed by primary school children using Lego, in fact I will refer to it as Lego land ! However was this allowed ?

ME you can't have two Lego Lands in the area as there is already one in Deganwy where the old Lido was.      Don't forget that this is the same developer who  has put in the application for the Pier Pavilion.           &shake&

I always thought Lego Land looked awful , but compared to some of today's developments there not too bad.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DVT on June 14, 2017, 08:33:50 pm
Looking at the publicity picture there are 8 residences and the car park is 8 cars wide.  I have to admit I didn't think there was enough space so stopped this afternoon to take pics.

There doesn't seem to be 8 residences in a row, although there is a gap where one could be built.  The large "garage" on the right hand side of the publicity pic is currently a portacabin.

The "car park" has a JCB parked on it sideways and would not be more than three car widths.

I wonder if the sloping roofs are for solar panels - if so, surely facing north-east is not the most efficient.

Perhaps an amount of artistic licence has been used for the publicity shot!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 14, 2017, 10:29:21 pm
We also had a look last night, for the life of me I can't see how they cost almost £700k ?  :o
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Ian on June 15, 2017, 09:05:48 am
So they're assuming one car per house? Interesting.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DVT on June 15, 2017, 08:04:55 pm
Looking at the publicity pic a bit closer, and another quick look when I passed today, I think they will get all the buildings into the space - assuming the big gap will be the site of one of them.

There seems to be no garages apart from the separate building which appears to be a double garage.  I can make it 14 car spaces in the pic but suspect it's going to be a bit tighter in reality.  I would have thought that the people living there would likely be 2-car families so there would be no space for friends or visitors!

Just basing that on the short cul-de-sac that I live in which has 16 houses, and over 30 vehicles between us - that's before any visitors!

Anyway, I am unlikely of being in the situation of buying one of those houses.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Ian on June 16, 2017, 07:47:36 am
I think you're right. Anyone who can afford the £700k price tag will almost certainly have more than one car. Then we can assume at least one tradesman per day, possibly grocery deliveries, postman, inevitable maintenance of utilities - water, power and the ubiquitous BT Openreach, meter readers, refuse lorries, recycling vehicles and that's before visitors, family, nurses, doctors...

Going to be a tight squeeze and not what you'd expect for that amount of money.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on June 16, 2017, 11:15:05 pm
This is a view of the site taken from the bird reserve in Llandudno Junction a few months ago.    Looking at it you wonder how they could fit 8 houses into that.
I think that someone  did post something on here about some boundary dispute but I presume that has been resolved
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DVT on June 17, 2017, 09:50:20 am
If you look at one of the pics I took where there is a gap between buildings you can see that there is quite a bit of land between the buildings and the railway - looks as though there is a pond there.

Makes me wonder if the publicity drawing assumes that the houses would be nearer the railway/river - so could that have been a boundary issue, or even difficulty in laying foundations?

Anyway, be interesting to see when it's all finished!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on June 20, 2017, 11:00:56 am
The other day I was watching a recorded TV programme called "Homes by the sea"   Episode 3  Anglesey and it was really interesting to watch.
It included houses such as Point Lynas Lighthouse and another by the Menai Suspension Bridge. 
I've seen most of them on walks I had done on Anglesey so it was nice to see inside them too.      The one in the photo was very good and interesting to see.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on June 24, 2017, 11:18:20 pm
I had a look at the Glan Conwy site today and there were six houses in some state of completion, four semi's and two detached and noticed a lane going down towards the river north of the site and saw this poster on the ground.
I've no idea what that was about
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on June 25, 2017, 01:07:21 am
Sounds like something I should be BUYING, given the mark up on land and property around here at the moment.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: spotty dog on June 25, 2017, 01:09:04 pm
I think that is n old sign, that's the piece that was in contention ' and was resolved by help with access road down.The old Conwy Vale site is the next one if Waldron gets what he's asking the owner will develop ore it's up for sale cir £1,000000
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 14, 2017, 10:03:12 pm
This property was on the Welsh news last night.  It is believed to be the oldest house in Menai Bridge and has now come up for sale.
It is expected to sell for between £10,000K  and £15,000K   the TV showed the inside of the building and it is small, very small indeed
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 14, 2017, 10:52:03 pm
All the recent publicity should help boost its selling price at next month's auction.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-68806802.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-68806802.html)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on September 15, 2017, 12:11:40 am
Surely that is smaller than Conwy's smallest Welsh house?

If you were considering buying it, it's so tiny, you'd have to go outside to change your mind!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 15, 2017, 08:49:12 am
I looked at the floorplan of that, made me laugh out loud, 1 room, 1 door and 1 window!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Nemesis on September 15, 2017, 09:06:14 am
Looks a little precarious in places !
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 15, 2017, 09:44:29 am
One would need a blue badge to park outside. ^*^0
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 06, 2017, 08:43:47 pm
This property was on the Welsh news last night.  It is believed to be the oldest house in Menai Bridge and has now come up for sale.
It is expected to sell for between £10,000K  and £15,000K   the TV showed the inside of the building and it is small, very small indeed

Sold for £33,000.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on November 02, 2017, 09:27:32 am
If anyone has walked all around the beautiful Crafnant Lake then they will have noticed the derelict Chapel by the telephone box.

This week in the NWWN the property has come up for tender with the estate agent Iwan Williams of Llanrwst.   Tenders are to be submitted by November 17th 2017

It needs a bit more than TLC   

http://www.iwanmwilliams.info/photos/propertyDetail.php?reference=1857 (http://www.iwanmwilliams.info/photos/propertyDetail.php?reference=1857)


Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on November 03, 2017, 11:26:39 am
That old Chapel was derelict when I was a kid, walking around Crafnant. Even in its current state, I suspect it will sell for something approaching £100k, given the superb location.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on November 03, 2017, 12:00:58 pm
Back in the 90s a friend, restored a similar property on Llyn Geirionydd,  the end result was fantastic, however you are dealing with Snowdonia park rules, and they are strict, I remember him bringing in a retired stone mason to supervise the work, who just stood there and told them which stone and where he wanted it, and as they say * you cannot see the join*
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on November 03, 2017, 12:27:05 pm
An incredible location Steve but the hillside looks bare now after they felled so many of those conifer trees
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on November 03, 2017, 12:39:36 pm
We were lucky that the trees around both our houses, had areas of broad leaf trees, that hid the effects of the harvest, but as your photo shows, it is more noticable looking at it from the car park,  the upside was that for a few pounds you could obtain a licence to collect wood for the log burners.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on December 10, 2017, 11:12:14 am
A few weeks ago I saw a Robson Green TV programme about Anglesey and yesterday when I went for a walk on the island I was able to see two of the properties featured on the programme.
The first was in Moelfre which was an old cottage that had had an ultra modern extension built on to it.    The location was on the edge of a small cliff with stunning sea views.
The second property was on Ynys Y Gorad Goch, the island that is in the Menai Straits and between the two bridges.   Unfortunately the Winter weather was closing in and the cottages didn't look so inviting in those conditions
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2018, 10:19:53 pm
We went on a boat trip yesterday from Beaumaris along the Straits to Menai Bridge and then continued under the two bridges and then returned back to Beaumaris.
On the outward journey Jason the boat skipper took us near the Anglesey shoreline and we were able to have a good look at the properties along the shoreline that you are unable to see properly from the road   There were some incredible houses and he was able to tell us who lived in them and the history of each one.
Glyn Garth Court was a controversial block of flats built in the 1960's and film stars like Roger Moore and Richard Burton lived in them at one time.    From the road they look just like a large block of council flats but from the Straits they seemed more attractive and the views from them are fantastic.
Just before you come to Menai Bridge you come to a house called Ynys Y Big and it has it's own private harbour and a small island also of the same name.  The lady who lived there apparently liked Herons and made the island attractive for them and sure enough when we went past we could see lots of Herons and White Egrets in the trees all around the island

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2018, 10:30:40 pm
After Menai Bridge we went under the suspension bridge and went near Ynys Gored Goch, the island between the two bridges.   On the island are two cottages and the currents are treacherous there, the present owner obviously likes the location and has done a lot of work on the properties as you could see on a TV programme last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKnk3WShs0U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKnk3WShs0U)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2018, 10:01:37 am
Thanks Hugo,  for posting your recent trip details, very interesting...............    :)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on August 31, 2018, 01:08:12 pm
Thanks Steve, there's at least one up for sale if you're interested        ;D

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/5280757/ (https://www.onthemarket.com/details/5280757/)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2018, 03:50:18 pm
That's some house, ................It's similar to what we have,......you know,roof, walls a bit of a garden.   :'(
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on August 31, 2018, 04:25:23 pm
They all look nice and I'd be quite happy with any of those properties, all I need now are my lottery numbers to come up tonight.
I've added a link to Ynys Y Big and you'll see in the first part of the clip dozens of birds flying from the island.  I've never ever seen so many Herons and White Egrets in one spot like we did on Wednesday.
The private island is accessible from the house at low water but years ago they had a wooden bridge going across to it but that has gone and I would expect that a lot of money will need to be spent on it to rebuild it.
I've also added an old clip of the lady owner and if you flick the photos you can see the bridge in its former glory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pRHdkNZQH4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pRHdkNZQH4)

http://search.digido.org.uk/?id=llgc-id%3A1557043&query=rhyd-y-main&query_type=full_text&page=138 (http://search.digido.org.uk/?id=llgc-id%3A1557043&query=rhyd-y-main&query_type=full_text&page=138)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2018, 04:50:29 pm
I remember the bridge from past visits, I suppose they keep the larder well stocked these days.

Thanks again, copied photo for you, Hugo.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 01, 2018, 09:46:47 am
Thanks for posting that photo Steve.     It must have been so impressive in its heyday but now all remains of the bridge are just a few upright bits of timber
I remember seeing it years ago too so it's a shame that it has been so neglected
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 14, 2018, 02:42:04 pm
Tellytubby send me an e-mail about this place

Holidaymakers can now stay in a former station master's house     

https://dailym.ai/2NfG48X



Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on February 08, 2020, 10:31:46 am
This list of buildings at risk features Kinmel Hall, just outside Abergele. I had no idea it had been dubbed the 'Discount Downton' though, it's usually referred to as the 'Welsh Versailles'. I love how 'There was even a room dedicated for the ironing of the family’s daily newspaper.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/architecture/kinmel-hall-the-welsh-versailles-lies-derelict-and-unloved--who-will-come-to-its-rescue-10502644.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/architecture/kinmel-hall-the-welsh-versailles-lies-derelict-and-unloved--who-will-come-to-its-rescue-10502644.html)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34262313 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34262313)

A few posts on this subject came up in 2015, starting with the one above, not much much has changed, so I suspect the usual practice of allowing deterioration to the point of needing demolition.

Injunction at 'Welsh Versailles' as council considers enforcement options for historic mansion
Kinmel Hall in St George near Abergele was one of the finest stately homes in Wales.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/injunction-welsh-versailles-council-considers-17706659 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/injunction-welsh-versailles-council-considers-17706659)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on January 03, 2021, 12:26:27 pm
How about this house if you've just won the lottery!


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/inside-bespoke-abersoch-beach-house-19545869 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/inside-bespoke-abersoch-beach-house-19545869)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on January 09, 2021, 11:57:18 am
The nine most expensive properties on the market in North Wales


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/nine-most-expensive-properties-market-19587461 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/nine-most-expensive-properties-market-19587461)

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on February 06, 2021, 07:22:03 am
What a beautiful barn conversion


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/virtual-tour-luxurious-designer-barn-19759529 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/virtual-tour-luxurious-designer-barn-19759529)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on March 06, 2021, 10:00:30 am
We saw this tower some years ago when we had a walk in Cwm Pennant


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/inside-real-life-rapunzel-style-19962950 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/inside-real-life-rapunzel-style-19962950)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 05, 2021, 10:47:58 am
Gothic villa in Conwy that is 'not your average property' has gone up for sale
Former hotel Bryn Corach was once home to the pioneer of outdoor activity holidays and even comes with a 26 bedroom wing


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gothic-villa-conwy-not-your-20312785 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gothic-villa-conwy-not-your-20312785)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Meleri on April 05, 2021, 02:34:02 pm
Hugo did you know that your Great Grandfather & my Great, Great Grandfather Joseph & my Great Grandfather Hugh came down from Penmachno to live in Bryn Corach Cottage in the early 1890's to work on the Bryn Corach stonework ?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 05, 2021, 05:27:07 pm
I didn't know that Meleri so thanks very much for posting that.      I seem to remember on one of the Census records that they were living at Bryn Corach but didn't realise that they were working on it too.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on April 28, 2021, 09:48:22 am
Inside the 'Welsh Versailles' - a mansion once so grand it played host to the Queen
Kinmell Hall in Abergele will go to auction for £750,000 next month - almost half of what its current owners paid for it

More and photo gallery https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/inside-welsh-versailles-mansion-once-20479241 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/inside-welsh-versailles-mansion-once-20479241)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on May 15, 2021, 10:16:39 am
KINMEL Hall has been purchased by a mystery buyer at auction for £950,000.

The auction, by firm Allsop, was held on May 13. The property was marketed by Allsop and Carter Jonas.

A spokesperson from Allsop said: “There were multiple bidders with activity throughout the morning and a late competitive flurry in the final few minutes.

“There was interest from all over the world including the US, Australia and Europe.”

It is understood the new owners are from the area.

cont   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19304307.hopes-new-owner-kinmel-hall-will-work-conserve-building-quickly-possible/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19304307.hopes-new-owner-kinmel-hall-will-work-conserve-building-quickly-possible/)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on August 13, 2021, 10:01:20 am
Historic former HQ in North Wales has gone on the market
Welsh Government owns the Ty’n y Coed site in Llanrhos which had been leased back to CGG Robertson

Ty’n y Coed in Llanrhos, between Llandudno and Deganwy, was constructed in 1878 and was subsequently used as a hospital and more recently a headquarters office building for French geoscience company CGG Robertson.

cont https://www.business-live.co.uk/commercial-property/historic-former-hq-north-wales-21251800?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.business-live.co.uk/commercial-property/historic-former-hq-north-wales-21251800?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 18, 2021, 12:42:56 pm
I've always admired this property when we have had a walk in the Barmouth area


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gothic-snowdonia-clock-house-awe-21586474 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gothic-snowdonia-clock-house-awe-21586474)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on September 19, 2021, 09:42:46 am
Inside an 'old soldier's' abandoned Anglesey cottage left untouched for decades
The property, dubbed 'The Guard's House' or 'The Blue House', lies down a remote country path near Amlwch

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/abandoned-anglesey-cottage-untouched-decades-21598734 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/abandoned-anglesey-cottage-untouched-decades-21598734)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Mike on September 23, 2021, 10:59:48 am
I was browsing properties for sale this morning and found this time capsule in a property on Llandudno seafront..


(https://media.rightmove.co.uk/13k/12980/84819680/12980_102027020320_IMG_13_0000.jpg)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2021, 04:51:18 pm
I was browsing properties for sale this morning and found this time capsule in a property on Llandudno seafront..


(https://media.rightmove.co.uk/13k/12980/84819680/12980_102027020320_IMG_13_0000.jpg)

Isn’t that Martin Bland’s old house?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Nemesis on September 23, 2021, 05:43:39 pm
Amazing how much is within that frontage, even a swimming pool !
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Fester on September 24, 2021, 07:46:59 pm
I believe that Craig Charles (the actor from Corrie and Red Dwarf) has just bought that house!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Nemesis on September 24, 2021, 08:26:12 pm
It said SOLD then FOR SALE again when we drove past.--------------------------????
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 03, 2021, 02:19:14 pm
This old converted Chapel is on the market in Beaumaris priced at £525K    The inside of the building has had a stunning conversion


https://www.boomin.com/property-for-sale/property-details/CbHhZCBlyL2B2HCkyPlXNhdB (https://www.boomin.com/property-for-sale/property-details/CbHhZCBlyL2B2HCkyPlXNhdB)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: BrianP on October 03, 2021, 08:02:36 pm
In the same street , were my grandmother lived, Chapel Street.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2021, 02:46:53 pm
This old converted Chapel is on the market in Beaumaris priced at £525K    The inside of the building has had a stunning conversion


https://www.boomin.com/property-for-sale/property-details/CbHhZCBlyL2B2HCkyPlXNhdB (https://www.boomin.com/property-for-sale/property-details/CbHhZCBlyL2B2HCkyPlXNhdB)
That was on the market only a few years ago for £395k! Nice property though.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Cordyline on October 20, 2021, 02:12:23 pm
Block of apartments for sale

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/115111046#/?channel=RES_BUY (https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/115111046#/?channel=RES_BUY)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 25, 2021, 08:45:32 am
Inside 18th-century former water mill on outskirts of Snowdonia that's up for sale
Melin Isaf has been placed on the market with an asking price of £550,000
DVT may be interested to read this as his ancestor had connections with the mill

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/inside-18th-century-former-water-21945746 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/inside-18th-century-former-water-21945746)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DVT on October 25, 2021, 09:26:02 am
Quite correct Hugo ... my great-grandfather John Vaughan was there in 1891 as a Miller.  I suspect it may have been temporary residence as in 1891 his wife Margaret (Williams) was living in Llannefydd which is where John originated.  In 1901 John, Margaret and the children were in Pont Wgan near Rowen ... and Pont Wgan was in the Vaughan family until about ten years ago, the last Vaughan occupant being their grand-daughter Margaret, who never married.  She was a cousin to my father.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 25, 2021, 10:45:14 am
It's still a beautiful building and is set in a steep wooded valley
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DVT on October 25, 2021, 04:49:17 pm
Hugo ...

... scroll down the gallery of pics to the one of the kitchen - clearly written on the woodwork is the name "John Vaughan Miller and a date" along with the inmitials "JV".  I cannot quite make out the date, but I know he was there in 1891.

... Widower John Vaughan (born 1848) of Llanefydd married Margaret Williams of Llanrwst in 1883, then in 1901 they were at Pontwgan and had three children, the eldest being Alice Louisa Vaughan (born 1884) - my grandmother who I never knew as she died on New Year's Day 1933, when my father was only 12 years old.  I do have some photos of her, I also have a newspaper report which gives her as the winner of the women's cycle race at the Conway Valley Show held in Caerhun in the 1890's!

Great find, that sale notice!
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 25, 2021, 05:20:20 pm
I took this photo  but can't make out the date.     You'll have to go there and have a look   ;D
It's a nice conversion though
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 25, 2021, 05:39:03 pm
Sale agreed on 'unbelievably' priced beach hut on North Wales coast
The wooden shack on Abersoch beach went on the market with a £175,000 price tag


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/sale-agreed-unbelievably-priced-beach-21966216 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/sale-agreed-unbelievably-priced-beach-21966216)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: DVT on October 25, 2021, 07:10:25 pm
Quote from: Hugo
I took this photo  but can't make out the date.     You'll have to go there and have a look   ;D
It's a nice conversion though

On the estate agent website there are a lot more photos, one shows the inscription from the other side of the room and I reckon the date is 25 Oct 1899 ... I want to find out the significance, is it the date he left (he was in Pontwgan in 1901) - also hope to find out the date he moved there so wonder if the deeds show up anything - I'm not trying to claim it passed down to me (!) - the Vaughan dynasty has all died out, but I have it as my middle name!  Will contact the agents.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on November 07, 2021, 10:50:04 pm
A bit further south but it's nice to see this woodland retreat hidden away in a tree covered Welsh hillside
The timber-clad Swn Yr Gwy in Powys is at one with its idyllic surroundings

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woodland-retreat-hidden-away-tree-22095042 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woodland-retreat-hidden-away-tree-22095042)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2021, 10:41:46 pm
I'm a Celebrity 2021: Inside Cefn Castell - the seafront house where camp mates met last night.    We went past this place on a walk a few years ago.    It's near a cliff edge and just outside of Criccieth, one lovely feature of this place is the stone wall around the house.  It's quite high for privacy but we still managed to see over it and I posted some photos on here at the time


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/im-celebrity-2021-inside-cefn-22233502 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/im-celebrity-2021-inside-cefn-22233502)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on March 27, 2022, 02:46:16 pm
North Wales' most expensive property goes on sale in Abersoch for £3m
Construction of the state-of-the-art house was completed earlier this year and it's now looking for an owner who can meet its eye-watering asking price
It's a coincidence coming on the market now just after North Wales' most expensive beach hut was on offer for £200K just last week.
Will the locals be bidding for the hut or the house I wonder?     &shake&



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-most-expensive-property-23481676 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-most-expensive-property-23481676)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on April 07, 2022, 09:56:49 am
I thought this might be of interest to Forum users in view of the connections with North Wales. Telford Manor House in Beattock, just outside Moffat, is up for sale. It was built in 1822 by Thomas Telford who lived there for a time. It has been used as a holiday let for a while now. Close by the house there is a burn running and a bridge was constructed over it by Telford who has put an inscription on the wall of the bridge. I will have to look at the date next time I pass by there as I cannot recall it offhand.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/118290992#/?channel=RES_BUY (https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/118290992#/?channel=RES_BUY)

https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/homes-and-gardens/this-impressive-11-bedroom-detached-house-can-sleep-up-to-26-guests-and-was-built-by-legendary-engineer-thomas-telford-3520520 (https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/homes-and-gardens/this-impressive-11-bedroom-detached-house-can-sleep-up-to-26-guests-and-was-built-by-legendary-engineer-thomas-telford-3520520)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 07, 2022, 12:53:11 pm
Thanks Helig for posting the links  Telford has certainly left a very impressive legacy in the UK.

That house would be far too big for me but I know someone who could add it to his property portfolio      ;D

In the second link there is a lovely wooden chalet type building and it mentions Colwyn Bay and that's more my type of property
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on April 11, 2022, 11:07:37 am
I passed by the bridge close to Telford Manor yesterday. The inscription reads it was built by Telford in 1817.

Like You, Hugo, I wouldn't want to take on anywhere so big. The bills would be enormous and I would dread all that cleaning.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 11, 2022, 11:54:59 am
How about this one Helig,  Glynllifon on the Llyn Peninsuls.    It must be a cleaner's nightmare.

Tellytubby visited there recently and said that the place is closed and looking sad

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on April 12, 2022, 10:07:16 am
Thank you for that, Hugo. I think this was intended to have an army of servants to keep in in good condition. It featured on Salvage Hunters recently. They went in to see what was worth having after it closed as an hotel and wedding venue. It looked very grand but isn't likely to stay that way if it is left empty and uncared for. It will need someone with plenty of money to take it on by the look of it.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 24, 2022, 09:40:00 am
The Lighthouse at Point Lynas has come on the market again.   It was featured on a Welsh TV programme a few years ago and shortly afterwards while on a walk in the area I spoke to the owner of the property.   It was his wife's dream home as a child and they were lucky to be able to buy it when it last came on the market.
It's unique and set in a beautiful location and is one of the best places in the UK to see Dolphins and Porpoise

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/former-lighthouse-keepers-home-anglesey-23763207 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/former-lighthouse-keepers-home-anglesey-23763207)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 30, 2022, 10:22:35 am
'Utter madness' as Abersoch's most famous house put up for sale at 'London prices'
The 'iconic' former fisherman's cottage is valued at £2.2 million - and it's in a wonderful location

When small wooden beach huts without electricity and water are sold for £200K then anything is possible.   It's a mad mad world     &shake&


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/utter-madness-abersochs-most-famous-23829668 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/utter-madness-abersochs-most-famous-23829668)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on May 01, 2022, 09:33:39 am
Urban explorer gives a glimpse into the abandoned 'Anniversary House' left frozen in time
The house near Llanrwst has been left fully furnished and lost to time

An urban explorer has taken a look inside a long-forgotten home. The property has become known as "Anniversary House" among the explorer community and is tucked away down a remote pathway about five minutes from Llanrwst in Conwy.

cont/photo gallery  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/urban-explorer-gives-glimpse-abandoned-23778485 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/urban-explorer-gives-glimpse-abandoned-23778485)
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on July 16, 2022, 02:31:38 pm
The five most expensive properties currently up for sale in Abersoch
Prices range from ?675,000 to a whopping ?2,850,000

Out of the price range of locals unless of course they have won the lottery      :(


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/five-most-expensive-properties-currently-24498401
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on July 30, 2022, 08:54:18 am
The luxurious designer 'super home' tucked away in a Llandudno hillside that's on sale for ?1,700,000
Built in 2016, the designer house is one of the most opulent properties currently on sale in North Wale


This must be the property that had numerous trees chopped down to open up the view

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/luxurious-designer-super-home-tucked-24591773
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: mull on July 30, 2022, 09:56:19 am
Name says it all------- SOD THEMALL.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on July 31, 2022, 09:59:24 am
ive properties on sale in North Wales that could have been on Grand Designs
These striking modern homes look like they could have been designed on the Channel Four show

How many though will be bought by locals?


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/five-properties-sale-north-wales-24612742
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on August 14, 2022, 12:09:33 pm
Hillside house with 'world class' panoramic views of Barmouth beach up for sale
Garreglwyd is built into the Rock in Barmouth and boasts stunning views

I thought that you may like to see this Nemesis, but sorry Bionic knees are not included in the price     ;D


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hillside-house-world-class-panoramic-24729514
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2022, 11:07:30 am
Luxurious former coach house on Little Orme for sale - and it has a walk-in dressing room and hot tub
The master bedroom of the ?1,795,000 property even has its own wing which is accessed by a private staircase

It's handy if you want to go to the Premier Inn next door but the asking price last time it came on the market a few years ago was  below 1 million pounds

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/luxurious-former-coach-house-little-24840327
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 25, 2022, 10:10:22 am
Luxury 'Millionaire's Row' property on Llandudno's Great Orme on sale for ?2,500,000
The luxurious cliffside property also has stunning sea views


I remember the old Abbey Lodge getting demolished and a new one build in it's place and if I remember correctly it wasn't that long ago and the asking price then was about ?1.2 million.    Nice profit for someone!
I've also just remembered that the old building the Abbey Lodge was previously  mentioned on here under Research as a forum members relation once lived in the ols lodge



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/luxury-millionaires-row-property-llandudnos-25069320
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Meleri on September 25, 2022, 02:33:58 pm
My Mother was born in Abbey Lodge her Grandparents lived there. What stunning views but what an abomination of a house has been built instead, absolutely soulless
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 25, 2022, 04:25:27 pm
I've just found your posting in Genealogy and Research Meleri and it's under the heading of The Lodge, Gogarth Abbey Llandudno.     Unfortunately on my laptop I can't see any of the photos that were posted at the time which is a shame as I seem to remember some interesting photos there
It's now a big house and soulless as you say.   That lounge doesn't seem to fit the ?2.5 million price tag
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on September 26, 2022, 11:20:44 am
It is totally out of keeping with the surrounding area. I knew the former Abbey Lodge and it was part of the same type of build as The Old Abbey. That monstrosity must dominate the area and overwhelm the remains of the old Gogarth Abbey. I am surprised they were allowed planning permission. Wouldn't the body that protects ancient monuments object?
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 26, 2022, 03:53:04 pm
Helig,   Llys Helig Drive has changed quite a bit over the last 10 years or so and old houses have been pulled down and replaced with ultra modern properties.
Money talks nowadays and properties are being built that don't fit in with the surroundings, take Anwyl's last plan for Penmorfa for instance
There is a restriction on land near the site of the old Bishop's Palace but I don't know if this building has or has not broken that restriction
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on September 27, 2022, 10:05:31 am
Thank you for that information, Hugo. I confess I haven't been along Llys Helig Drive for some years now. It is a shame that they have been messing about with the houses down there. They gave it a lovely appearance as they had such individual styles. It sounds similar to Sandbanks in Dorset where the old style bungalows built in the 1930s or thereabouts, have been pulled down and the over sized modern monstrosities erected in their place.

Has the bungalow where Mr and Mrs Gow lived survived? That was the first one after the Old Abbey.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on September 27, 2022, 10:44:50 am
I think it was called Tide's Reach.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 28, 2022, 11:36:50 am
I haven't noticed any change in that building Helig and the Google Street map doesn't allow you to "walk" down the street.    The latest satellite image shows that the house does not appear to have been demolished or modified and I have a feeling that this place may have appeared on the forum before under Research
CCBC  seem to go against their own policy on demolition and allow structuraly sound houses to be demolished and massive houses built in their place.    Money certainly talks in this area of Wales
An example in Abersoch in recent years is when a property was bought there for 1,000,000 pounds and shortly afterwards it was demolished and a much larger house built in its place
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on September 29, 2022, 10:59:15 am
Thank you, Hugo. I seem to think that when Mrs Gow died the property was left to her daughter. It could be she has decided to live in it and leave things unchanged. Mrs Gow invited me in for a cup of tea and a chat and I was surprised at how spacious the place was as it looks tiny from the road. Having looked at things on a Google search I suspect it must have been sold to people outside the Gow family.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 29, 2022, 02:05:43 pm
My brother alleges that a number of properties by the old Gogarth Abbey Convalescent Home have  been bought by members of the Jewish community.
According to Google in 2011 an investment company was registered at Tides Reach but no company member was called Gow.
Next time I walk past it I'll take a photo and post it on here

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: norman08 on September 29, 2022, 03:29:40 pm
Hugo yes your brother is correct. The Jewish community have bought more properties there was talk they wanted more and to gate it to be private..
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 29, 2022, 05:23:18 pm
Thanks for confirming that Norman.   My brother also said that one Jewish man called on a house there and offered to buy it.     The owner of the house replied that the house was not up for sale but the Jewish man replied that " everything has got its price"
I don't know the outcome of what transpired from that conversation
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: norman08 on September 29, 2022, 08:58:12 pm
Hugo that?s what they are doing all over town,  they have one house up craigside I?m friends with the lad lives next door they have murder with them when their mates come down.    As we say they can sell a property in London and buy 3/4 big houses here.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on September 30, 2022, 11:25:00 am
I think you are correct as I found a company mentioned on the Companies House website, This was Crestbrook Investments Ltd. Their registered address was changed to Tides Reach, Llys Helig Drive. The former address was in Finchley, North London. Finchley is an area which is heavily populated by Jews and the names of the directors suggest they are Jewish.

I remember when the former Chief Constable of North Wales, David Owen, lived along Llys Helig Drive and the very large house along there was sold to a Jewish rabbi. This was for ?1 million and it took everyone by surprise at the time. David Owen told a close friend of mine that the Jews had gone along every house there asking if the people would sell their property to them. I know he declined and sold his house (Provencal I think) to Sir Richard Greenbury).

I know they bought The Old Abbey, the former Railway Convalescent Home.

Why is there such an interest in buying up all these properties in Llandudno? There was some interesting information on the source of the funds they used for the large property sale but I cannot post it here. It came from an impeccable source but it is best not to name them.

My mother used to say that in WW2 the Jews moved out of London and lived in Llandudno. That there were more Jews in the town than in Golder's Green. She was very friendly with a Jewish family by the name of Levy. They had 4 children and lived in St David's Road I think. I remember Maisie Levy, who was one of the 4 children. She married Sid Hardman. They lived in The Oval and had a newsagents, souvenir type store in the town. Maisie died quite young in about 1970.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2022, 10:37:06 am
House on Llandudno's Great Orme with stunning views of the promenade goes on sale
The four bedroom property overlooks North Shore beach and the Little Orme

cont / photo gallery https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/house-llandudnos-great-orme-stunning-25139524?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Cambrian on October 02, 2022, 02:38:09 pm
Helig - there's an interesting leaflet on the history of Jewish families in Llandudno which is available at Llandudno Museum.
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Post by: Helig on October 03, 2022, 10:20:42 am
Thank you for that information, Cambrian. I live in Scotland unfortunately.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2022, 12:35:29 pm
Helig, I am sure they will post one out to you if you phone them
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Post by: Helig on October 04, 2022, 10:29:32 am
Thank you, Brian. I will call them and ask if they can post one out to me. It would be interesting to know more as there were many Jewish families living in Llandudno going further back. The Gubay family being one of these. Is Oriental Stores still going? The Lazar family with the store in Madoc St etc. Talking of which:

https://www.thejc.com/news/obituaries/vicki-lazar-1.500092

I remember a cousin of mine was in school with Marcia Lazar.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 04, 2022, 12:50:53 pm
Helig, Oriental Stores is now a Welsh Souvenir shop and the Lazars shop became a catalogue shop which subsequently closed but has since been sold.

By coincidence, I was in JBGS with Mike Lazar during the early sixties. Mike moved down to London with his Mum.

If Llandudno Museum are unable to post a leaflet to you please let me know and I will collect one and post one out to you myself.

In fact, I am due there tomorrow morning on an organised walk unless it is postponed because of the weather forecast.

Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Helig on October 05, 2022, 09:59:11 am
Thank you for that kind offer, Brian. I will see if the museum will post one out to me and give them a call today. I remember Lazar's closing down and was living in the town then. My grandmother used to talk about the mother of the Gubay family who worked in Oriental Stores for years. I remember her being there vaguely too. I think she was a ripe old age.

Does anyone know how many of the houses on Llys Helig Drive have been acquired by people of Jewish origins?
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Post by: mull on October 05, 2022, 10:12:49 am
Somewhere in my memory I recal my father telling me the Oriental Stores was run by a family from Egypt. Or am i getting confused with another shop ?
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Post by: Hugo on October 05, 2022, 11:26:50 am
Nothing wrong with your memory Mull as the Oriental Stores was run by Egyptian Jews.     There was Jack Gubay who ran the store and Eddie and Robin who looked after the amusement arcade and cafe directly opposite the Oriental Stores
I liked the family as they did a lot for the town in different ways.      I've still got my binoculars that I bought from Jack Gubay over 50 years ago
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 05, 2022, 02:22:16 pm
Helig, I attended an event this morning at Llandudno Museum and picked up a leaflet entitled - A Jewish History of Llandudno.

Please feel free to pm me your address and I will gladly forward this on.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: mull on October 06, 2022, 12:06:34 pm
Remember Oriental Stores had glass display units on the pavement outside the shop filled with camaras and binoculars.

Bet they would not last long out there these days, the world has changed and not for the better.
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Post by: Helig on October 08, 2022, 09:59:06 am
Thank you, Brian but I spoke to Dawn in Llandudno Museum and she has sent me the leaflet as an attachment to an E-Mail. I know of many of the names mentioned and found it fascinating.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 10, 2022, 11:14:38 am
Excellent news, Helig.

I have a similar leaflet entitled - A Jewish History of Bangor - if it is if any interest?
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Post by: Helig on October 14, 2022, 10:57:53 am
I don't know Bangor very well at all. It probably wouldn't mean much to me unlike to leaflet on Llandudno. Thank you anyway Brian.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on May 14, 2023, 12:33:46 pm
Inside luxurious 'millionaire's row' house on the bank of the Menai Strait



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/inside-luxurious-millionaires-row-house-26899882
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on September 02, 2023, 02:40:44 pm
The beautiful North Wales property with stunning views of Eryri and Ynys Mon - there's just one catch
The Llandudno property is on Rightmove for ?2.3 million

The original property of Abbey Lodge came up on the forum a few years ago under Genealogy and research as a forum member's relative once lived there.   The original property was demolished and a new building erected on the site and when it was completed not so long ago it went on the market at about 1.2 million pounds
A nice tidy profit for someone if they get the new asking price!


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/beautiful-north-wales-property-stunning-27629400
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Post by: SteveH on September 02, 2023, 04:21:51 pm
And I will not take a penny less.................... ;)
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Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2023, 12:13:14 pm
Another house for you Steve with a lovely garden



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/chance-buy-your-very-mini-27722826
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2023, 02:32:40 pm
A boatman's cottage in a stunning beachside Anglesey location.      I've walked past this property a few times and it is set in a beautiful location but ?625K   I don't think it's worth that amount.
One thing for certain is that it must be beyond the limit of what local people can afford, certainly the likes of young locals.   No wonder there is a problem with  second homes on Ynys Mon

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/gallery/boatmans-cottage-stunning-anglesey-beachside-27931685
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2023, 02:45:34 pm
The 'second home paradise' that's dreadfully wrong' for village
The debate over spiralling property prices in popular coastal towns and villages is clearly not restricted to North Wales,  although North Wales does have the added concern over the Welsh language


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/second-home-paradise-thats-dreadfully-27956134
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2023, 09:14:06 am
Luxury beachside Anglesey home on sale with hefty price tag
The six bedroom house surrounded by spectacular views is on sale for ?1,950,000

In the main photo you can just make out the other property on the Rhoscolyn headland that is also up for sale.   Again local young people won't be buying this one either

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/luxury-beachside-anglesey-home-sale-27967726
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 28, 2023, 05:27:10 pm
The Grade II listed mill on the top of Nant Y Gamar is up for sale



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/grade-ii-listed-former-mill-27974842
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on October 30, 2023, 12:38:37 pm
Old post office building in Tywyn, Deganwy goes on the market and is priced at over half a million pounds!         :o


https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23888141.old-post-office-building-deganwy-goes-market/
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on November 09, 2023, 07:18:55 am
Country pile near Barmouth with a link to the Royals up for sale
The six bedroom property on the banks of the Mawddach Estuary has a self-contained flat, 36 acres of ground and its own quay



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/victorian-country-pile-near-barmouth-28063250
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on November 14, 2023, 09:07:36 am
Designer home inspired by famous North Wales architect.    In fact a similar type of property featured on the TV programme Wales Home of the year recently



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/gallery/designer-home-inspired-famous-north-28097937
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on November 27, 2023, 09:30:13 am
'Off grid' country retreat in hidden Eryri valley goes on sale         The 86-acre site is on sale for ?1,115,000

A remote country retreat in a "hidden" Eryri valley has gone up for sale. The Gwyndy Newydd estate occupies a stunning spot within the national park in Cwm Penmaen.    The Roman road of Sarn Helen passes near the house



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/off-grid-country-retreat-hidden-28154688
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2024, 11:11:44 am
The stunning modern house with views of St Tudwal's Islands on sale for ?2.4m
It also boasts views of Benar Headland and the Cambrian Mountains
I can't see any local Welsh people buying it     :(

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stunning-modern-house-views-st-28384077
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on February 18, 2024, 03:34:07 pm
Inside the stunning North Wales Edwardian coastal residence on sale for ?1.1m
A long driveway passing through 'glorious landscaped garden' leads to a large parking area and the 'imposing entrance porch

If that is not enough for anyone then there is a building site going for sale in the West Shore for two and a quarter million pounds and the seller may be open to offers!         8)


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/inside-stunning-north-wales-edwardian-28632525
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on February 26, 2024, 06:50:28 pm
Clifftop Grand Designs home that everyone asks the same question about is now up for sale
Cefn Castell was on the Channel 4 show as well as later appearing on I'm A Celebrity
It is a lovely property and what I remember about it is the beautiful very high stone wall surrounding the house, probably to protect their privacy and keep prying eyes away.    We still managed to see over the wall and take some photos!          :-[




https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/clifftop-grand-designs-home-everyone-28707619
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on March 11, 2024, 10:31:13 pm
The Gwynedd house that might just have Wales' strangest extension

It's a pretty ugly extension, when I looked at the conversations below the advert someone posted "and I thought that Anwyl's were bad"
I can't see that posting now though.
Here's a photo of one of the designs Anwyl was touting for the Penmorfa building site some years ago



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/gwynedd-house-might-just-wales-28796915
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 15, 2024, 10:05:42 am
Stunning house a stone's throw from one of Anglesey's best beaches up for grabs
'The exclusivity of this property lies not only in its picturesque setting but also in its characterful design and architecture'
"Up for grabs?"  but not if you are local.       More suited to the Cheshire set  or those people wanting to add to their portfolio of property rentals


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/stunning-house-stones-throw-one-28975669
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: SteveH on April 18, 2024, 09:47:08 am
Inside former chapel converted into a stunning ?550,000 home overlooking the Little Orme
Bethania Chapel has been modernised to the highest specifications

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/inside-former-chapel-converted-stunning-29011681
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: mull on April 18, 2024, 10:23:19 am
You can not buy a view.

How long before the Mostyn's decide to build on the fields opposite ? They have been trying  for years.
Title: Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
Post by: Hugo on April 18, 2024, 01:24:06 pm
That Chapel has been on the market before.    It's a lovely conversion but in the wrong place and as for the comment about overlooking the Little Orme that's a bit of an exaggeration.
That view will disappear completely if Mostyn Estates get their greedy mitts on a planning application and as Mull quite rightly said they have been trying that out for years.
It's prudent for me not to say too much but I believe that they will be trying again for planning permission once Anwyl Construction have finished on their site in Nant Y Gamar Road