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Title: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2010, 02:17:29 pm
This is an idea for a thread which I've seen used on caergybi.com, in which Llandudno residents can pass on all those little snippets of information, news, gossip, weather etc that aren't really important enough for their own thread but helps to give those people living away from the town a feel for what its like in Llandudno right now. People can add in photos to their posts, if desired. I'll kick things off below.

DaveR
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2010, 02:20:15 pm
The August Bank Holiday was probably the busiest day of the Season here in Llandudno, the town centre, promenade and pier were absolutely jam packed with people. Good to see everyone enjoying themselves and all the town's traders doing well.

Couple of photos:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4077/4941985245_b90f9fbcac.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4941985245/

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4941817825_494165a973.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4941817825/

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4141/4942642720_ddba54cfe5.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4942642720/

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2010, 10:30:03 am
Something was going on in Upper Mostyn Street about 4pm yesterday. 3 police cars, 1 paramedic and an ambulance were at the flat next to the B W Ryder shop.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2010, 03:25:50 pm
Well, the weather has been getting better every day this week - blazing sunshine, feeling very warm, and the town still very busy with visitors. Im enjoying a coffee outside cafe culture, what a lovely day
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2010, 07:53:40 pm
I hear that the old Fruit & Veg shop (The Good Life?) on Upper Mostyn Street (mext to the Con Club) is to become a Mens Barber.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2010, 08:36:48 pm
Where's this rough weather come from? Blowing a gale and bucketing down at the moment!  Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2010, 09:04:15 pm
When has it been any different Dave?
I've been keeping records of my shop takings in relation to the weather per day.
As you know, my living is intrinsically linked to the weather (as is Mike's on his Golf Course)
My records show that over the last 42 days, there were only SIX which I could consider to be great weather.

The Great British Summer eh?  ...and its forecast to be like this for a good while yet!   :weeping:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2010, 09:19:41 pm
When has it been any different Dave?
I've been keeping records of my shop takings in relation to the weather per day.
As you know, my living is intrinsically linked to the weather (as is Mike's on his Golf Course)
My records show that over the last 42 days, there were only SIX which I could consider to be great weather.

The Great British Summer eh?  ...and its forecast to be like this for a good while yet!   :weeping:
Well, you are halfway up a pier mate!

In town, the weather has been pretty good. I've been able to sit out cafes every weekday for the past month, bar one day I think.  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2010, 11:50:55 pm
I'm Jealous Dave....what a great life you lead.  Z**
The wind has been the main factor, and has caused havoc on the pier, 
As you say, Mrs Fester agrees....the wind does not really reach Mostyn St..
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2010, 08:41:07 am
Lot of building work going on in the basement of the St Georges Hotel on the St Georges Place side (where the old health club was) and they've ripped out the garden along there too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2010, 04:27:00 pm
The Marine Drive is closed for a stage of the Tour Britannia Rally.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on September 12, 2010, 11:19:43 am
It's a beautiful sunny Sunday morning with blue sky and blue sea.
(I have to admit it rained quite heavily earlier on).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2010, 03:18:02 pm
Yes, it's turned into a beautiful sunny afternoon, Llandudno is packed with people.

Fester pointed out to me that the Cable Car/Cabin Lift is closed yet again, yet it didnt seem that windy to me.  :huh1:

The Gresham pub was also closed, has that gone bust again?  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on September 12, 2010, 04:04:40 pm
Traffic Accident - Conwy Road - Thursday evening

A 17 year old driver had since died.       Full details www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-11275251 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-11275251)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 13, 2010, 08:23:31 pm
Dave,
The Gresham was open and quite busy tonight and last night...
Strange that it was closed on a Sunday afternoon though?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 13, 2010, 08:43:49 pm
Yes, bit odd, maybe staffing problems?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 03:34:07 pm
There is a Hearse with a body in the back driving around town to promote the Rocky Horror Show at Venue Cymru from 20th - 25th Sept.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 04:23:16 pm
Worth seeing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on September 14, 2010, 04:26:41 pm
Which one? - the hearse or the show?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 05:08:06 pm
Just knew someone was going to ask that  WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Sara on September 14, 2010, 05:24:50 pm
Why are there 2 topics called "What's Llandudno like right now", here and in Ask a Local? ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 05:28:08 pm
Why are there 2 topics called "What's Llandudno like right now", here and in Ask a Local? ???
There should only be one, really. Young Ian has been up to no good, I think. The Ask A Local one can be renamed something else and I shall do it now.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 05:33:58 pm
Lots of work going on in the old Ethel Austin shop - looks as though it will be reopening soon, but as what...?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 05:37:58 pm
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Young Ian has been up to no good, I think.


 X:(( L0L

Hmmmm..wonder which one was started first....?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 05:39:24 pm
..and of course, neither was started by yours truly, of course.... WWW WWW WWW WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 05:40:38 pm
Methinks the Mac user doth protest too much...  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 05:43:08 pm
Ah, my virus-ridden, Trojan-dodging, M$-bedevilled, poorly served PC friend;  we of the Mac fraternity shower unctuous blessings upon you.
 >>>

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 05:45:25 pm
Trojan-dodging
I would never do such a thing, he's a good bloke.... <:<:<:<
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 06:31:09 pm
 Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 14, 2010, 07:40:34 pm
 ??? Could the old Ethels be Animal clothing,who have been advertising for jobs :huh1:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 10:08:58 pm
There is a Hearse with a body in the back driving around town to promote the Rocky Horror Show at Venue Cymru from 20th - 25th Sept.

Promo for the Show:

THE ROCKY HORROR SHOW - UK Tour TV Commercial (Sept 2010) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GRpgc8ENPk#ws)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on September 15, 2010, 01:47:37 am
Trojan-dodging
I would never do such a thing, he's a good bloke.... <:<:<:<

 8)



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 15, 2010, 04:37:45 pm
 ;)Smyths toys is ready to open on Saturday,i think this will really help LLandudno stay in touch with other shopping towns,unfortunately the town council are doing nothing extra to help the town with xmas lights,shame on the lot of you.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2010, 04:42:58 pm
The old Ethel Austin shop looks to be opening as the Publishers Book Clearance or similar. They're looking for staff if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2010, 06:33:58 pm
The old Ethel Austin shop looks to be opening as the Publishers Book Clearance or similar. They're looking for staff if anyone is interested.
My suspicions were correct.... ;D

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 17, 2010, 10:11:23 am
It was being stocked with books yesterday, so should be opening soon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2010, 07:07:17 am
 :) Burger King shop has a sold sign in the window,obviously this does not mean a new shop  will open but its a step in the right direction. :o       
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 23, 2010, 10:55:45 pm
 :) What take away  is applying too open at 135  upper mostyn st.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2010, 01:35:45 pm
:) Burger King shop has a sold sign in the window,obviously this does not mean a new shop  will open but its a step in the right direction. :o       
Definitely. It's starting to look quite shabby now, so hopefully a new owner will refurbish the outside.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2010, 01:45:15 pm
:) What take away  is applying too open at 135  upper mostyn st.
135 Upper Mostyn Street is the old Merediths Alternative Goth Shop, next to Home Cooking. Planning application is for a restaurant/take away with outside tables/chairs:

1. Change of use of Retail Shop to Restaurant and Take-Away
2. External Alterations - Rear Yard - Flue Installation
3. Use of area under canopy - table and chairs for dining

Perhaps its a Tapas Bar...  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 24, 2010, 03:23:07 pm
Just what we need - yet another eatery!   _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 24, 2010, 03:32:39 pm
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Perhaps its a Tapas Bar...


Never tasted Tapas..nice?


 ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on September 24, 2010, 04:16:23 pm
I believe it was bought by the guy wh owns the 147 club.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2010, 05:51:20 pm
I believe it was bought by the guy wh owns the 147 club.
Was it you that was saying on the old forum that he wanted to make it an entrance into the club, Paddy?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2010, 05:52:13 pm
A fine day for a wedding....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 24, 2010, 06:27:51 pm
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Perhaps its a Tapas Bar...


Never tasted Tapas..nice?


 ???

I hope it IS a Tapas Bar. I really do.
Ian, I take it you are not a lover of Spanish holidays then?
If you were, you could hardly have avoided trying Tapas.

Small rations of local food,  it can be any combination, rices, fish, shellfish, chicken, sausage...its endless really.
But you only try a small amount, and pay a small amount, so you can try many different dishes.
Take a look at LaTasca,  the UK's leading chain in Tapas,  its a great concept and would do really well with old and young diners alike.

Mmmm  Tapas !

 <:> <:>






Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on September 24, 2010, 07:05:57 pm
I believe it was bought by the guy wh owns the 147 club.
Was it you that was saying on the old forum that he wanted to make it an entrance into the club, Paddy?

It was suggested to me by Paul, who had the shop, that it was to be a dining area leading into the club.

I'd be surprised if permission was granted for a change of use but, if it's attached to the club which already has the necessary licenses, would permission be needed?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 24, 2010, 07:47:42 pm
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Ian, I take it you are not a lover of Spanish holidays then?

Never been to Spain. Fester.   Italy, Germany, France, Denmark, Iceland, USA, Greenland, Canada to name but eight - but not Spain.  Or Portugal.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 24, 2010, 07:52:51 pm
I did not mean to infer that you were not a well travelled man Sir!  On the contrary.

I have never been to Portugal either, but as a great lover of seafood, I keep promising myself that I will.

I like Spain, but not as much as I enjoyed China and India,  trouble is I was always on business, (in my former existence) and I never really got time to explore and appreciate them...

There is a lot more of the US I would love to get to also,  I have a yearning to visit Hawaii and will make that a priority in 2011.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on September 26, 2010, 08:32:46 pm
I'd really forgotten just how good a sunny September weekend can be.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 27, 2010, 08:08:31 am
I suspect it won't last  Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on September 27, 2010, 09:34:42 am
You called that one correctly Ian.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 27, 2010, 01:40:55 pm
So it seems....  :weeping:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 27, 2010, 07:11:22 pm
As far as I was concerned, this morning very,very peaceful. Not a single person on the golf course, not even a dog walker. Lunchtime, feeling very hungry. Noone around. So I decided, stick a few clubs and balls in a box, a note on the side, "play away, I'll be back shortly" and off I went to a favourite cafe.  Lovely steak pie, mash, carrots, peas, gravy. First mouthful and my phone rings. "Get back quick to your golf course, Theres a gentleman lobbing golf balls at my house---and hes just broken a window."  Me: "Ohh, Blo--- he--" Caller. "Yes. ----pause---- I got your number from the Llandudno forum---I'm a member!!!  Me  "OOOOhhhhhhh, fing blo--- he-- "   Anyone fancy a stone cold plate of steak pie?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 27, 2010, 09:05:27 pm
And was there anyone up on the course when you got there?  :golf:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 27, 2010, 09:45:51 pm
Yes, indeed. The phone caller (who is a member of this forum, he gave me his username which I knew well.) But noone else. But I was two golf clubs and about half a dozen balls short, gone missing. That was a chance I took. He mentioned seeing a group of youngsters passing his house, I cannot tell you where because I'm not certain he wants the forum to know about this. Anyway, I caught up with a group of youngsters in the area---one of them knew me by name and I recognised him vaugely from being from Tyn y Coed area.  Anyway things were building up, I straight away said I would pay for the glass, but now it appears that the window is not easy to get at, the house is mega high. So, with his agreement, I called the Police. Also, whilst on the phone, I followed the group of 7 teenagers (I thought they were all in school, I wouldnt have left the clubs if I knew they were roaming at this early stage in the school year). They could see me on the phone, Police wanted a discription,  (Of all seven?) they walked fast, I walked fast, they speeded up, I attempted to speed up (but not too much, I didnt fancy being set about by seven fit 16 yr olds) despite everything we all ended up by Weatherspoons---end of story, they split up and that was it.   I was strongly tempted to go into Weatherspoons and forget about the whole thing!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on September 27, 2010, 10:08:19 pm
Pity there were no PCSO's patrolling the area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 27, 2010, 10:59:45 pm
Yes, indeed. The phone caller (who is a member of this forum, he gave me his username which I knew well.) But noone else. But I was two golf clubs and about half a dozen balls short, gone missing. That was a chance I took. He mentioned seeing a group of youngsters passing his house, I cannot tell you where because I'm not certain he wants the forum to know about this. Anyway, I caught up with a group of youngsters in the area---one of them knew me by name and I recognised him vaugely from being from Tyn y Coed area.  Anyway things were building up, I straight away said I would pay for the glass, but now it appears that the window is not easy to get at, the house is mega high. So, with his agreement, I called the Police. Also, whilst on the phone, I followed the group of 7 teenagers (I thought they were all in school, I wouldnt have left the clubs if I knew they were roaming at this early stage in the school year). They could see me on the phone, Police wanted a discription,  (Of all seven?) they walked fast, I walked fast, they speeded up, I attempted to speed up (but not too much, I didnt fancy being set about by seven fit 16 yr olds) despite everything we all ended up by Weatherspoons---end of story, they split up and that was it.   I was strongly tempted to go into Weatherspoons and forget about the whole thing!!!

Mike !!

This is disastrous news,  :o :oand enough to really get a lesser man down.

If you see them in future, I would be tempted to wrap one of your putters round thier heads!

Pick the biggest one, and the rest of the cowards will run like hell ...!!

There are scumbags everywhere, and they need sorting out.

 :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2010, 06:02:19 pm
Couple of new businesses opening up in town....a shop called (I think) 'Stitch In' on Vaughan Street, a Nail Bar on Madoc Street (where Xpose Clothing was) and it looks as though one of the units in the Victoria Centre has been let, the one on the corner that used to be the Perfume Shop.

Gareth Roberts Opticians will be opening in their new premises on Mostyn Street very shortly, after breaking the World record for longest shop refurbishment.  :D

As Wrex has mentioned, the old Burger King unit has been sold.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 29, 2010, 06:13:30 pm
I was wondering if Mike had been having any more trouble with local yobs?

What has happened with the window breaking situation?  Surely Mike hasn't had to pay for this?

Finally ... I haven't noticed the sheep around in recent weeks.
Does anyone know why?
Have they all been penned back in for the winter perhaps?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 29, 2010, 08:02:58 pm
Funny you should say that, I too had noticed far less on my usual walks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2010, 08:08:08 pm
Most of the escapees were rounded up and despatched to the abattoir. There may still be a few holdouts dodging the golfballs in Haulfre gardens.  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 29, 2010, 08:21:00 pm
A new business called "Stitch in."  Rather a strange name to pick----too close to "Stitch up" for my liking.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2010, 08:28:51 pm
A new business called "Stitch in."  Rather a strange name to pick----too close to "Stitch up" for my liking.
I may have got it wrong, it was certainly 'Stitch something'!  ;D Its in the old Baxters Photography shop on Vaughan Street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 30, 2010, 12:04:32 am
A new business called "Stitch in."  Rather a strange name to pick----too close to "Stitch up" for my liking.

Mike ...is there some reason why you are choosing to ignore my earlier questions?
  .. if so, just tell me,  I'm married so well used to being ignored...

Fest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 30, 2010, 07:43:29 am
 _))* _))* _))*


"I met my wife in the tunnel of love  She was digging it..."
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Post by: Trojan on September 30, 2010, 10:06:00 am
_))* _))* _))*


"I met my wife in the tunnel of love  She was digging it..."

 L0L I love those one liners
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 30, 2010, 08:47:52 pm
Fester----most certainly NOT. I don't often ignore anyone, I'm more likely to give them a piece of my mind than ignore. BUT I MOST DEFINATELY WOULD NEVER IGNORE YOU. Sorry you thought it possible.  Now I'll have to end this post so I can go back in the forum to find what you have been asking me!!!!   Hopefully my replieswill be sent in the next half hour  Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 30, 2010, 09:06:13 pm
Hello again, especially Fester. I found your queries, sorry I missed the page. No, no more trouble, I havent seen anyone really. Ive got the two clubs back---a local spotted them in the woods overlooking Haulfre Gardens, more or less in line with the "attacked" house. What I think has happened, someone spotted my box with the clubs and balls )that idea of honesty golfing----thats been abandoned)  They helped themselves as they walked down to Llandudno, when they got closer to town they just belted a few balls in the general direction of houses below and then threw the clubs away. It looks as if they were "shot" from outside my patch,  but only just. As to cost of repairing the window, well I must remind you that the broken window belongs to a fellow forum member and reader. As soon as I met him I accepted full responsibility, I should never have left the balls unattended!!!   Its in the hands of the Police now. You live and learn.   As to the sheep, sadly, for them, the only place you will see them now is on the lamb chop menue in Fountains.  Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 30, 2010, 10:03:10 pm
Hello again, especially Fester. I found your queries, sorry I missed the page. No, no more trouble, I havent seen anyone really. Ive got the two clubs back---a local spotted them in the woods overlooking Haulfre Gardens, more or less in line with the "attacked" house. What I think has happened, someone spotted my box with the clubs and balls )that idea of honesty golfing----thats been abandoned)  They helped themselves as they walked down to Llandudno, when they got closer to town they just belted a few balls in the general direction of houses below and then threw the clubs away. It looks as if they were "shot" from outside my patch,  but only just. As to cost of repairing the window, well I must remind you that the broken window belongs to a fellow forum member and reader. As soon as I met him I accepted full responsibility, I should never have left the balls unattended!!!   Its in the hands of the Police now. You live and learn.   As to the sheep, sadly, for them, the only place you will see them now is on the lamb chop menue in Fountains.  Mike

Hi Mike,
I wondered if you were trying to blot out the issue from your memory.. I knew you wouldn't ignore me as such .. I was just interested to know what had transpired.
So there WAS actually a window broken then?
I have to say that I wouldn't have held you responsible ... its called either ''criminal damage'' or '' accidental damage'' ... and covered on ones house insurance.  Just a get a crime number from the hapless copper and away you go.
Instead I hope our fellow Forum member showed solidarity with you and assisted you in your pursuit of these hoodlums. (I am sure they did)
 $3towns$




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 01, 2010, 10:24:07 am
Noticed this morning that Mainframe have now got goods displayed in the old 'Spanish Castles and Penumbra ' shop
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 01, 2010, 07:33:19 pm
 :o I was told last nite that the rent for the old halfords store is 200,000 a year rent,that is serious money. :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 01, 2010, 07:44:12 pm
Hello to Fester, This is getting towards a personal message board between us---perhaps I'll email anything else on this subject. I must say that I, personally, havent seen the broken window. Not that a broken window would mean very much---I am not suggesting for a minute that this has happened here, but IF anyone was devious enough, a window broken earlier on could be "pulled out of the hat" if anyone wanted compensation.  Ive had this done to me by a private car owner in Paris. Mirrors touched in the Champs Elise or whatever else its called. When I looked at the car, half the side was knocked in. I reckoned the driver did it weeks before and was just driving around until such time as he saw a large left hand drive bus somewhere, then just touched it.As to the group of seven youngsters---another possible suspect has come to light, nothing to do with them. This suspect fits into the facts a bit better. Unless the Police come up with something I doubt if I will ever find out for sure
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2010, 08:00:46 pm
:o I was told last nite that the rent for the old halfords store is 200,000 a year rent,that is serious money. :-X
No wonder its empty!  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 01, 2010, 08:07:01 pm
Mike ...

So you've had a bad experience with a mischievous French 'Driver' .... and now its due to an errant '7 Iron' ..

I don't know how you PUTT up with it !!

 L0L L0L _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2010, 08:44:36 pm
Well, Mike's used to it, of COURSE, but things like that would DRIVE us crazy...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 01, 2010, 08:53:35 pm
''Fairway'' .. sorry I main FairPlay to you .... I can imagine Mike feels a little 'Teed Off' ...and I wouldn't want this to drive a 'Wedge' between us !





Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2010, 09:22:25 pm
Run out of golf related puns, so will post this photo of the pier taken on Thursday which sums up the 'end of the season' feeling, I think:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/5042717952_a1904ae42e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5042717952/)
Autumn (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5042717952/) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Yorkie on October 01, 2010, 09:54:32 pm
Fester's VANISHING CREAM obviously works then!!!   L0L  _))*  L0L  _))* 
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Post by: Fester on October 01, 2010, 11:43:13 pm
There is more at work here than just end of season though ..
Because just look at the weather .. it was glorious,  but very few people in town,  and even less spending.

Let us not under-estimate the crushing effect of this recession (depression??) .. which will get only worse next year with HIGHER unemployment and HIGHER VAT rates...

I won't starve, (I don't think??) .. but brace yourselves for more and more empty shops...pubs etc..

 Z@@ Z@@ Z@@ Z@@ Z@@
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Post by: Ian on October 02, 2010, 08:44:58 am
Yes - it's not a particularly cheery outlook as we toddle our collective way towards the festive season, is it?


 VV
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Post by: wrex on October 02, 2010, 09:07:17 am
 :PIan  do not get me started on xmas lights. :huh1:
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Post by: Ian on October 02, 2010, 10:40:15 am
 8) 8)
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Post by: Michael on October 02, 2010, 02:07:41 pm
Gosh, I'm glad Fester didnt spot my mistake in my post.He would have had a good laugh. I should have written "Right hand drive bus."      Everything that drives around Paris is left hand drive!!!!!  It was only at 2 o'clock in the middle of the night I realised what I had written Mike
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Post by: Fester on October 02, 2010, 09:26:23 pm
Gosh, I'm glad Fester didnt spot my mistake in my post.He would have had a good laugh. I should have written "Right hand drive bus."      Everything that drives around Paris is left hand drive!!!!!  It was only at 2 o'clock in the middle of the night I realised what I had written Mike

Fester is not that observant, nor that pedantic ....
Nor is he brave enough to DRIVE around Paris.
I take my hat off to you Sir !   &well& &well&
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Post by: wrex on October 03, 2010, 12:30:49 am
 8)  Llandudno today looked very busy and how nice too see. This of course does not mean we stop trying too improve the town like our beloved councillors. ££$
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Post by: Ian on October 03, 2010, 08:15:13 am
Quote
Nor is he brave enough to DRIVE around Paris.

For that, you need a navigator like my wife. "The only thing I ask," I said, "is don't take me anywhere near Paris!"

Ten minutes later, as I drove down the Champs-Élysées, the thoughts of what I might do if we ever escaped are unprintable...

 ))*
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Post by: Michael on October 03, 2010, 07:08:25 pm
Even worse, just yards away, the Arch de Triumph.  That is a sight for sore eyes if you are driving. In passing I would just mention that it is believed by everyone that you are automatically uninsured when you enter this roundabout. When a bump occures (whivh happens many times a day) the gendarmarie take details (maybe) and both drivers are treated equally responsible. No argument, makes no difference who you are or what happened---its 50-50 and you pay half
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Post by: Ian on October 04, 2010, 07:56:14 am
I think the Arc de Triomphe is more lethal than Hyde Park.  Certainly, there was the same feeling of impending doom I remember as we entered both, although not on the same day, it has to be said.  >?>??
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Post by: Nemesis on October 04, 2010, 08:40:32 am
Santander is pretty hairy, especially when one of the huge ferries is chucking out cars with drivers who
a)don't know where they are going and
b) have never driven on the wrong side of the road before.
Usually another lot are arriving there to get on the ferries to sail home.
Chaos !
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Post by: Trojan on October 04, 2010, 08:45:34 am
Even worse, just yards away, the Arch de Triumph.  That is a sight for sore eyes if you are driving. In passing I would just mention that it is believed by everyone that you are automatically uninsured when you enter this roundabout. When a bump occures (whivh happens many times a day) the gendarmarie take details (maybe) and both drivers are treated equally responsible. No argument, makes no difference who you are or what happened---its 50-50 and you pay half

The Arch De Triumph certainly is a sight for sore eyes.
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Post by: Bellringer on October 04, 2010, 09:32:28 am
A beautiful October typically Autumn sunny morning with blue sky, and a heavy dew. :)
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Post by: Yorkie on October 04, 2010, 10:47:47 am
Reminds me of the young lady who fell asleep on Hampstead Heath and woke up with a heavy Jew on her!!!  _))*
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Post by: Pendragon on October 04, 2010, 01:21:38 pm
Yes, it's turned into a beautiful sunny afternoon, Llandudno is packed with people.

Fester pointed out to me that the Cable Car/Cabin Lift is closed yet again, yet it didnt seem that windy to me.  :huh1:

The Gresham pub was also closed, has that gone bust again?  :o
This pub is owned by Punch Taverns, 3 years ago my friend and her boyfriend had it.  The rent then was £1,200.00 a WEEK! Thats without the top rate barrels and all other drinks etc you have to buy from them. My sums are written correct honestly, how can anyone hope to survive when realistically it's a weekend only establishment. They don't care if you fall flat on your face as, if you can't pay rent they set their legal rottweillers on you for breach of lease and keep your deposit etc which in most cases is on average £40,000.00. Punch falsify their accounts (they recently got charged in court for this offence related to leaseholders in England)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 04, 2010, 06:07:33 pm
A lovely sun rise this morning from Penrhyn Bay beach :) 8)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/October%202010/DSCF0443.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/October%202010/DSCF0448.jpg)

and then we saw about ten dead fish, no idea what happened to them?? :(
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/October%202010/DSCF0453.jpg)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 04, 2010, 06:09:29 pm
Even worse, just yards away, the Arch de Triumph.  That is a sight for sore eyes if you are driving. In passing I would just mention that it is believed by everyone that you are automatically uninsured when you enter this roundabout. When a bump occures (whivh happens many times a day) the gendarmarie take details (maybe) and both drivers are treated equally responsible. No argument, makes no difference who you are or what happened---its 50-50 and you pay half

The Arch De Triumph certainly is a sight for sore eyes.

 _))*  I've had many Triumph cars with worse arches than that TR7 (or is it an 8?)  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2010, 09:31:37 pm
The old Passion for Perfume shop in the Victoria Centre is to reopen as The Perfume Shop.
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Post by: Fester on October 04, 2010, 10:04:43 pm
The old Passion for Perfume shop in the Victoria Centre is to reopen as The Perfume Shop.

 *&( *&(  Dave, did you notice whether they are using the same glass and silver display cases as were left behind before?  They were very tidy indeed.

Even more  *&(  is the fact that they closed down well before Xmas 2009, which was strange timing  .... then they are re-opening in time for Xmas!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2010, 10:12:46 pm
Dave, did you notice whether they are using the same glass and silver display cases as were left behind before?  They were very tidy indeed.
They are using the same cases, as far as I could see. All that has changed is that new signage has been put up and the shop has had a clean!  ;D
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Post by: Fester on October 04, 2010, 10:16:52 pm
Dave, did you notice whether they are using the same glass and silver display cases as were left behind before?  They were very tidy indeed.
They are using the same cases, as far as I could see. All that has changed is that new signage has been put up and the shop has had a clean!  ;D

In that case I regret not paying the pittance I was offered to take them away ... 
Having said that I had nowhere to store them.

This shop will do VERY well in the run up to Xmas, and I asume they have taken a very cheap short term lease.
In other words, they are being allowed to take the cream!!

I will be spending a few quid in there myself.... Mrs Fester has a penchant for all that stuff.


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Post by: Blongb on October 10, 2010, 06:55:15 pm
And the final one on the Gresham for the moment. ZXZ Trapper threw a closing down again party last night and called it a day. With rent, rates and overheads he just couldn't make ends meet. The harder he worked the deeper in the mier he ended up. ))* Let it be a lesson to any young would be entrepreneurs out there; unless its freehold and a freehouse don't touch it with a barge pole Z**
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Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2010, 07:02:56 pm
unless its freehold and a freehouse don't touch it with a barge pole
Wise words indeed! Shame to see the Gresham go, it was a popular live music venue.  :(
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Post by: Michael on October 10, 2010, 07:48:51 pm
A few threads back, Fester talks about the perfume shop closing just before  Xmas at a strange time. And then reopening under a slightly different perfume title. Smells a bit fishy to me!!!
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Post by: Fester on October 10, 2010, 11:16:55 pm
unless its freehold and a freehouse don't touch it with a barge pole
Wise words indeed! Shame to see the Gresham go, it was a popular live music venue.  :(

After Dave and I had our pub crawl the other night, I met Mrs F in the Gresham ...  it was absolutely heaving.... and excellent.
Strange timing for it to close,  but I suppose it wasn't as busy on non-music nights.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 11, 2010, 05:50:48 pm
Work has started on the old Woolwich premises between the Victoria Centre and next Clearance. 5 men working in there today, good to see another empty shop let.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on October 12, 2010, 01:20:31 pm
Another couple of shops let on Madoc Street as well.  Another nail bar at the old Xpose clothes shop which years ago used to be Abercolour film processing and nearly opposite a form of internet cafe seems to be opening.
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Post by: Llechwedd on October 14, 2010, 01:33:46 pm
We don't have any nail bars and then all of a sudden we have two?  Like the Clapham Omnibus.  There's also a ciber cafe due to open in Madoc Street.
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Post by: Yorkie on October 14, 2010, 01:46:39 pm
Don't want to be pedantic but do you mean ciDer or cYber?     L0L  L0L  $uk
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Post by: DaveR on October 14, 2010, 02:25:58 pm
Whereabouts is the Cyber Cafe going to be in Madoc Street, Llechwedd?
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Post by: Nemesis on October 14, 2010, 04:04:39 pm
Speaking of cafes on Madoc Street-- is that Christian Youth place where the pancake place was ever open ?
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Post by: DaveR on October 14, 2010, 05:32:34 pm
Speaking of cafes on Madoc Street-- is that Christian Youth place where the pancake place was ever open ?
I believe it only opens on Wednesdays at present.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 14, 2010, 09:35:30 pm
First of the new nail bars to open on Madoc street:
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Post by: wrex on October 14, 2010, 09:50:17 pm
 :'(  Walking around town with the dog tonight made me realise how dead it is,then you think well what is there to do besides drink, drink and drink,no cinema to attract people into town . :rage:
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Post by: Michael on October 14, 2010, 10:48:34 pm
Even worse---there is a cinema to attract them out of town
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Post by: DaveR on October 15, 2010, 08:21:29 am
Even worse---there is a cinema to attract them out of town
Good point, Mike! I always think the Palladium could have been refurbished into a luxury cinema and would have done well.
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Post by: wrex on October 15, 2010, 12:29:19 pm
Halfords would make a good cinema but its not in the center.The town center needs something to pull people in after 5 30,easier said than done. :leer:
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Post by: Fester on October 15, 2010, 11:44:18 pm
:'(  Walking around town with the dog tonight made me realise how dead it is,then you think well what is there to do besides drink, drink and drink,no cinema to attract people into town . :rage:

I agree,  its great isn't it! ... and Dave R and I did exactly that tonight ... drink, drink, drink .....    he is such a bad influence...
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Post by: DaveR on October 15, 2010, 11:51:07 pm
Fester is great on Karaoke in the Carlton ...and I have video evidence to prove it!  $lol$
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Post by: Fester on October 16, 2010, 12:29:48 am
No .... No .... No ....DON'T DO THIS  !!!

You will regret it in the morning ... Z** Z** ZXZ ZXZ

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Post by: Barbiroli on October 16, 2010, 01:09:20 am
Youi have got to show us all the video DaveR Z** Z**
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Post by: Fester on October 16, 2010, 01:12:58 am
Thankfully he's off line ..... it appears that Elvis has left the Building.

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Post by: Barbiroli on October 16, 2010, 01:20:37 am
You are not off the hook yet Fester we still want to know more D) D)
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Post by: Llechwedd on October 16, 2010, 11:22:14 am
Can't spell cyber sorry.  It's next to the Oxfam charity shop.  The windows are covered but there are people in there working.
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Post by: Llechwedd on October 16, 2010, 11:26:26 am
Knock down the Clarence or North Western hotels and build a six screen cinema.  easy
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Post by: DaveR on October 16, 2010, 05:32:43 pm
You are not off the hook yet Fester we still want to know more D) D)
I have the footage and it shall be displayed to all! Seriously, Fester was by far the best of the karaoke singers last night:

LIVE in the Carlton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO-cSDwfI_0#)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 16, 2010, 06:29:28 pm
Well only a couple of hours ago we were  sat chatting with Fester about the X Factor and singing etc and then this video comes up D)  and yes Fester based on that vid you are very good, go for the X Factor next year   D) 8)
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Post by: TheMedz on October 16, 2010, 07:40:19 pm
Fester. Hats off to you. I'm in awe of you being able to do that. I've made presentations to hundreds of people but singing in front of anything other than my bathroom mirror is beyond me.
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Post by: Nemesis on October 16, 2010, 08:01:37 pm
OMG I have a busy day and haven't time to get on line and look what happens !!! :o :D
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Post by: Fester on October 16, 2010, 08:07:59 pm
Oh Dear ... Dave, I shall repay you for this outrage!

Lucky for me, I don't have Adobe Flash Player, so I can't see or hear this abomination myself.
I recall my daughter put a clip of me singing in Spain onto YouTube, (from her inexpensive mobile) and when I saw and heard that it was appaling and I vowed never to get up and sing again.

However ...DaveR is very adept at making me drink far too much beer at the moment .... and one thing led to another.

Medz,  I spent a lot of my previous career giving presentations ... and looking back I reckon most of those were utter garbage too.
Glad all that corporate crap is behind me.

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Post by: Nemesis on October 16, 2010, 08:11:54 pm
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/big/big-smiley-004.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/free-big-smiley.php)
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Post by: Barbiroli on October 17, 2010, 01:05:17 am
Fester hope i did`nt embararrass you by asking for more but by the way you were good <:<:<:<
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Post by: Ian on October 17, 2010, 08:41:33 am
Fester...I'm impressed 

X:((

That's a good performance;  intonation was spot on, phrasing, dynamics and style all excellent.

Don't suppose you can read MSS?
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Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2010, 08:59:05 am
Don't suppose you can read MSS?
He says he prefers the Sunday Sport....  $lol$
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Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2010, 02:18:39 pm
Lovely day in Llandudno once the sun came out:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5089466354_c69b0d0598_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5089466354/)

Llandudno Bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5089466354/) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2010, 03:36:20 pm
Cafe Culture has had proper signage installed, looks good:

[smg id=787]
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Post by: Fester on October 17, 2010, 06:03:42 pm
Some good work going on at The Grand Hotel this last few days.

There was a cherry picker type truck outside during the week, , with a guy on the platform dealing with the weeds and other stuff growing out of various nooks and crannies.
Today, there were two men up ladders re-painting the balconies.

Not before time!!

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Post by: DaveR on October 17, 2010, 06:14:58 pm
Some good work going on at The Grand Hotel this last few days.

There was a cherry picker type truck outside during the week, , with a guy on the platform dealing with the weeds and other stuff growing out of various nooks and crannies.
Today, there were two men up ladders re-painting the balconies.

Not before time!!
They also had a climber working from ropes, who was clearing out the top floor gutters. Rather him than me!

Whilst lurking under the Pier today, I took this shot of the Grand Hotel that illustrates very well how it almost appears to be growing out of the rock of the Great Orme. A fantastic building.

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/5089610093_eb50bf4ec6_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5089610093/)
Grand Hotel, Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5089610093/#) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Paddy on October 17, 2010, 10:49:01 pm
Wow! What a fantastic pic. I've never seen the Grand looking so good.
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Post by: Trojan on October 18, 2010, 07:30:02 am
That IS a great photo Dave.  $cool$
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Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2010, 08:59:51 am
Thanks!  ;D  I also found a small cave down there, just underneath that old concrete advertising board by the tollgate entrance.

I always like to do photos from new angles, here's one I've not seen before:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5090342124_95679cb0d9_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5090342124/)
Llandudno Pier (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5090342124/#) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Trojan on October 18, 2010, 09:04:35 am
Brill!  &well&
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Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2010, 10:14:52 pm
I'm amazed at the number of new shops opening in Madoc Street lately, must be at least 4 either open or getting ready to open - 'The Hub' Internet cafe, the 2 nail bars, and a charity shop in the old Dafydd Hardy offices.  :)
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Post by: Fester on October 18, 2010, 11:01:08 pm
I'm not amazed..... but I do wish them well.
I wonder if either nail-bar knew the other one was about to open?    ?{}?

Moreover,  in these days of scarce REAL employment, and reduced benefits, people are now forced to try a business venture .... what else is there to do to make a living?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 20, 2010, 05:40:38 pm
Indeed. Sometimes, I look at a new business (like that bike hire shop this year) and think to myself...have they really done their homework?

Changing the subject, I also hear that the big slide on the pier is being removed this Winter and will be replaced by another attraction.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 20, 2010, 08:30:51 pm
As I understand it, the slide and many other things are being removed....mostly temporarily whilst the deck boards in that large area are replaced.
The main gate near the arcade will also be closed to the public for a long time from November.

I did'nt know the slide was being replaced,  but there has been talk of a Victorian style cafe on that site.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 21, 2010, 05:49:01 pm
I was pleased to see that workmen were busy inside the old Bay Trading shop on Mostyn Street. Looks like another empty shop gone!  The pace of new shop lettings has certainly increased in the last few months.ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 21, 2010, 08:16:53 pm
To follow on from Dave's thread about new shops in Llandudno, I am far more familiar with Rhyl than Llandudno. But during the last nine months or so I have seen a lot of Llandudno and little of Rhyl. But I was in Rhyl one day this week and I was struck, straight away, at how it seemed quiet compared to Llandudno. I don't remember ever noticing anything like that before, in the past. So, maybe there is more hope for you happy Llandudnoites!!!
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Post by: wrex on October 21, 2010, 09:03:19 pm
 ;D  I have just been on  the Venue Cymru website and they claim too have shown a lot of blockbuster films in their cinema,i know nothing about this so called cinema and i am baffled. :-[
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Post by: TheMedz on October 21, 2010, 09:12:32 pm
Walking the  length of the prom yesterday spotted the first few hotels with full Christmas decorations,trees etc. Get your present lists ready because it's not long until Santa comes calling!
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Post by: DaveR on October 21, 2010, 09:27:31 pm
Walking the  length of the prom yesterday spotted the first few hotels with full Christmas decorations,trees etc. Get your present lists ready because it's not long until Santa comes calling!
It's probably for 'Turkey & Tinsel', rather than Christmas itself. I've always found 'Turkey & Tinsel' to be one of the craziest concepts around, the idea of having a full Christmas/New Year celebration in less than one week in October or November:

Your Turkey & Tinsel Programme

MONDAY: It’s Christmas Eve! - From local departure points relax, get to know your fellow holidaymakers, and enjoy the comfortable coach journey to the venue of your choice. Before dinner you are invited to a welcome reception with your hosts and, after dinner, relax in the bar or lounge and enjoy a drink with your new-found friends.

TUESDAY: It’s Christmas Day! - Start this ‘Christmas’ day with a leisurely breakfast then sit back and enjoy a half day excursion before returning for one of the highlights of the week… a full ‘Christmas’ dinner with all the festive trimmings and a visit from Santa! After dinner enjoy a night of festive entertainment.

WEDNESDAY: It’s Boxing Day! - After breakfast, board your coach for a full day sightseeing excursion before returning to the hotel. In the evening look forward to a Boxing Day dinner followed by festive entertainment and dancing.

THURSDAY: It’s New Year’s Eve! - After breakfast, board your coach for a leisurely full day sightseeing excursion before returning to the hotel. In the evening look forward to a special New Year’s Eve dinner followed by entertainment to see in the ‘New Year’!

FRIDAY: Fond Farewells! - After breakfast it’s time to make our way home, after five festive days of good fun, food and friendship.
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Post by: Fester on October 21, 2010, 09:34:24 pm
I think the Tinsel and Turkey holidays are GREAT!
I know that my Mum looks forward to going on them every year.
Every other year is Llandudno for her.... and the hotels are buzzing with merriment every night.

The old biddies also potter around the town spending money, and generally making the place busier during the day in the months of Oct / Nov / Dec.
Even when the weather is lousy they make the best of it.

Neither is it even restricted to people of a certain age ... I can see the appeal of being royally entertained, fed and looked after for four nights, for about £179 all in!

Don't knock Tinsel and Turkey,  its good for the town, and makes old souls very happy.



 

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Post by: DaveR on October 21, 2010, 09:39:27 pm
It's the idea of pretending its Christmas Day in October that freaks me out.  :o :o :o
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 21, 2010, 10:42:35 pm
I would hate this turkey and tinsel holiday  :o  the thought of xmas now :rage:  in October  Bah Humbug ::)

If it makes money for Llandudno then great, but its not for me  ::)   L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on October 21, 2010, 10:43:32 pm
Well there you go I've learned something else. I now live in a town that celibrates "Christmas" in October. Certainly explains why I kept seeing Santa in the Grand Hotel when I was just about to buy a house this time last year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 10:49:34 pm
"The old biddies"

Let's hope they use the dedicated "motorised perambulator" lane on the promenade, or thre'll be hell to pay (snigger snigger) %0% $happy$ _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on October 21, 2010, 10:57:15 pm
Don't forget "Twix'tmas" the period between Christmas and New Year. Sounds like a good way of filling up the hotels at an otherwise very quiet time of year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 11:01:23 pm
My husband is a darlin, he's already started getting pressies, he made me laugh the other day he came in with 4 boxes of wine and I've been told NOT to touch them even if my mates are here and we can't be bothered to go to spar!! He's made me sit down and write a xmas pressie list. He's very organised. )*)&

I'm quite happy doing everything a couple of weeks before but he can't be doing with the chaos. <:>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 21, 2010, 11:11:23 pm
Pendragon ... its YOU that is funny ...   and I've just read your other postings about discipling kids (on Conwy thread) .. hilarious.  L0L L0L

Ever thought about being a councillor?  You'll tie them in knots.

Medz ... All seaside towns run Tinsel and Turkey holidays,  thats why my Mum and her pals go to a different destination every other year!
Take a look on the web,  you can book them everywhere.  Not all hotels do it, Prestige ones like The Empire and The Imperial don't need to.
But .. The Marlborough is already fully booked for NEXT years Tinsel and Turkey weeks,  and very little availability for 2012 !!!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 11:32:08 pm
Pendragon ... its YOU that is funny ...   and I've just read your other postings about discipling kids (on Conwy thread) .. hilarious.  L0L L0L

Ever thought about being a councillor?  You'll tie them in knots.

I wouldn't be a councillor if you paid me (  _))* _))* _))*) I like having my own opinion Fester
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on October 21, 2010, 11:42:44 pm
I honestly didn't know "Tinsel and Turkey" existed. Amazing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 11:44:33 pm
Ok I confess........ I'm actually in the running for the 2012 "olympic councillor" gold medal............there I said it  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 21, 2010, 11:48:21 pm
I'm not sure I'm that comfortable with women having their own opinions....
Please don't let my wife know that this practise goes on.

Hell, you'll be wanting to vote next. 

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on October 21, 2010, 11:53:09 pm
My husband is always given choices mate and the same goes for his opinions
I'm either right or he's obviously wrong !!..............duh..........don't ever let it be said I'm not fair  $hands$ L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 22, 2010, 08:37:48 am
I honestly didn't know "Tinsel and Turkey" existed. Amazing.

 I am now walking daily past an hotel which is fully trimmed for the silly season and it's not on the prom either. Gives me a dose of the 'glooms'
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2010, 09:13:35 am
T & T weeks keep the town going at this time of year. And the visitors love them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2010, 04:19:00 pm
Animal Clothing is opening in the old Woolwich branch next to Next Clearance:
http://www.animal.co.uk/ (http://www.animal.co.uk/)

Past Times are opening in the old Bay Trading shop:
http://www.pasttimes.com/ (http://www.pasttimes.com/)

Excellent News!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on October 23, 2010, 04:51:34 am
T & T weeks keep the town going at this time of year. And the visitors love them.

  I* It also gives non Christians a chance to sample some decent nosh and have a good old knees-up.  I*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 23, 2010, 08:27:11 am
I honestly didn't know "Tinsel and Turkey" existed. Amazing.

 I am now walking daily past an hotel which is fully trimmed for the silly season and it's not on the prom either. Gives me a dose of the 'glooms'

Worse than ever--- went into Store 21 yesterday and Christmas music was merrily blaring out. :o I made a hasty exit !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 23, 2010, 12:44:45 pm
 D)  Mostyn Champneys is heaving this afternoon. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 24, 2010, 12:03:02 pm
I'm sitting in the sun on the deck outside Ski Llandudno Lodge. Coffee here is terrible but the views make up for it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 24, 2010, 12:41:15 pm
 ::)  Sitting outside the Neville,beer not too bad,the view of the rail station and the potholed road not too good,but hey who cares its only Llandudno. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on October 24, 2010, 03:31:37 pm
::)  Sitting outside the Neville,beer not too bad,the view of the rail station and the potholed road not too good,but hey who cares its only Llandudno. :P
Pete the landlord in the Neville and his wife Val are fantastic people.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 24, 2010, 04:09:12 pm
The old Motorworld shop on Upper Mostyn Street is to become a Manor Fine Foods shop, run by the same people who run the Manor Hotel in Craig Y Don
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 24, 2010, 04:15:17 pm
Lot of work going on to get the Past Times shop (formerly Bay Trading) ready for business. They must have had 6 or more people stocking the shelves today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on October 24, 2010, 06:46:04 pm
::)  Sitting outside the Neville,beer not too bad,the view of the rail station and the potholed road not too good,but hey who cares its only Llandudno. :P
Pete the landlord in the Neville and his wife Val are fantastic people.

I'll second that
p.s. remember the great staff too
 Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on October 24, 2010, 07:26:00 pm
 ))*  yeah and the staff too  :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 24, 2010, 07:59:56 pm
))*  yeah and the staff too  :-*

Especially Tracey !!   :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on October 27, 2010, 07:57:29 pm
I heard a tragic story last night about a landlord in Llandudno (I'm not going to mention names) he was running a pub for Punch Taverns. After doing his uttmost to make the pub work, Punch truly F*cked him over. This poor lad was driven to attempt suicide,(I contemplated it myself over the Albion, I know how he feels) something has to be done to protect these poor people. I'm not posting this as idle gossip, please don't think I am. I'm just recognising his plight. It will probably take someone to fall over the edge for action to happen. Gutted for the lad I really am.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tillymint on October 27, 2010, 11:11:15 pm
I know  of a "couple" who have had this happen as well. Punch promise the earth but never deliver. Phone calls are never returned and "mobiles" always on answerphone. Left to sink or swim, usually to sink like a stone :(.

Most of Punches leased estate is up for sale and  not necessarily as a going concern. They are selling off their assets. The CEO of their leased estate did much the same with a well known "off licence chain" a few  years ago. He left to join Punch. The "Offy" went into Administration at the end of October last year. Watch this space although I hope I am wrong.

We are going to end up with a load of "plastic" pubs with no character or well known "mine host" and very little choice of venue.

Rediculous high rents, low discounts and little or usually no support, coupled with no chance of competing with the big supermarket chains. No chance.  Z** :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 28, 2010, 12:19:15 am
Errr... please don't think for one minute that the odd suicide will make any corporate business change direction... it simply means you are DEAD.
They will make a glib statement, a wreath at the funeral, nothing more.

No ... much easier to file for bankruptcy,   stick 2 fingers up to them ... and start again!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on October 28, 2010, 02:08:22 pm
Lot of work going on to get the Past Times shop (formerly Bay Trading) ready for business. They must have had 6 or more people stocking the shelves today.

According to today's NWWN, the Past Times shop is a 'pop-up' shop.  Do I understand this to be just here for a couple of months and will then close again?  Therefore are they coming into the town just for the busy period in the run up to Christmas to 'cherry pick' business.  It must be irritating for existing businesses who sell similiar merchandise but are paying rates and overheads the whole year round.  Is this the future for retail?  Shops becoming seasonal - opening in late October and closing early January.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on October 28, 2010, 02:35:01 pm
It seemed quite busy in there this morning, most of the stock is being displayed as reduced and the back of the shop has been made into a makeshift storage area
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2010, 06:18:40 pm
The wind really got up in the late afternoon, the gusts were scattering A-boards, cafe tables and chairs everywhere! I was looking warily at the scaffolding surrounding Wetherspoons but it seems pretty secure, although the dust sheets were starting to get ripped off. The dust from the sandblasting was flying everywhere as well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on October 29, 2010, 06:47:41 pm
If the past is anything to go by, you'll need to watch out for flying roof slates,   :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 29, 2010, 10:14:32 pm
If the wind was bad in town, you can guess what it was like up the Orme. The surprising thing is how quickly it came, no more than ten/fifteen minutes from fairly calm to holding on for your life
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 30, 2010, 12:16:46 am
You are spot on there Mike,
I was chatting to a couple of people on the Pier at 3.30 ish and we were celebrating how mild the weather was compared to the forecast.... and within 20 seconds of nodding our heads,   my stock was all over the pier,  my sign was flattened... and we were all running for cover.
Scary stuff and damaging.

When I got home, (up the Orme)  my large wooden gates were badly damaged, and bins were all over the road.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 30, 2010, 08:53:36 am
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The surprising thing is how quickly it came, no more than ten/fifteen minutes from fairly calm to holding on for your life

Indeed. It also went fairly quickly, but it reminded me of the fact that the UK experiences about 200 tornadoes a year, and the intensity of the wind made me wonder for a moment...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 30, 2010, 09:28:29 am
I was saying the other day that I was working at the end of the Pier one day in the Summer many years ago and what felt like a tornado blew up out of nowhere. It went from being a peaceful, sunny day to absolute chaos in a few minutes, with the heavy wooden doors being ripped off their hinges in the Pierhead Pavilion. Then, it all went calm and sunny again and the Pier's maintenance staff had a hard time believing that high winds had caused the damage.  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 30, 2010, 10:02:56 am
From what I can find out, it seems that the trailing edge of a front went through.  That often causes squally winds, followed by a veering or backing of the wind direction, and the wind has now veered round to the West.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 30, 2010, 11:09:38 am
I drove down Arvon Ave at about 10 to 5 and the leaves were whirling up in spirals. A very strange sight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Sara on October 30, 2010, 04:25:51 pm
Asda's car park is a nightmare. Just taken me an hour to get out of there. Cars were bumper to bumper, how there weren't any accidents I don't know. The staff are directing traffic and as I left, the slip road into Asda was being coned off, so traffic coming down the Conway Rd couldn't enter. And it's not even Christmas yet  :(  :( :( :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 30, 2010, 06:36:17 pm
Nothing unusual about that Sara!   It happens quite often.     $uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Sara on October 30, 2010, 07:13:54 pm
Never taken me that long before tho! Next time will walk and hubby can come in his electric wheelchair, it's amazing how many bags of shopping i can load onto it even with him in it LOL.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 01, 2010, 05:26:26 pm
Manor Fine Foods has opened in Upper Mostyn Street:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 01, 2010, 05:40:59 pm
 :o    Looks very nice the sort of shop that will attract the finer shopper,will certainly be poping in.Very few postings over the weekend is everybody on holiday,i notice Oscar has gone very quiet so lets try not to go the same way.   ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on November 01, 2010, 07:54:26 pm
I could'nt agree more about the outward appearance of this store. What a difference to the endless bookclearance type of shop, with dayglow paper ( peeling at the edges)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 02, 2010, 04:07:10 pm
Just walked up Mostyn Street and wished I hadnt - weather is horrendous! Have gone to dry out in Waterstones coffee shop.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 02, 2010, 04:40:12 pm
Had cause to go to Southport today and just got back. If it's any consolation it's much the same there.
 
We hadn't been there for years and it was only the second time we had ever been through the Wallasey (Mersey) tunnel - we've led a very sheltered life!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 02, 2010, 05:57:55 pm
I took the car in for its MOT at 9.00am and after having a coffee morning followed by a nice meal at the Orient Express I braved the rain and walked up Builder Street only to be told that the car wouldn't be ready until 4.00pm.   :(
On my way back to town I passed Kwik Fit and a notice there said that the MOT's there only cost £35.00   :'(
I thought that I'd pass some of the time in the Library but when I got there the place was closed.
 I eventually ended up in the Conwy Archives where it was nice and warm and dried off until I received the phone call to pick up the car and then got another soaking in Builder Street  walking against the wind and rain.
At least the car passed its MOT thank goodness.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2010, 08:21:11 pm
If it is any consolation the weather in Yorkshire was horrendous too. I was so wet that I almost steamed on the train home.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 04, 2010, 03:43:24 pm
Another very wet and windy day in town, shops and cafes all very quiet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 04, 2010, 04:58:16 pm
Pedro's Cafe 101 was a hive of activity between 3 and 4 this afternoon.  The place gets better every time we go there.    Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 04, 2010, 05:59:56 pm
I see in the Weekly News that a new business will be opening in St George's Place on Saturday:

Petticoat Lane will be a decorative living and gift shop stocking decorative items, jewellery, accessories, toiletries, children's gifts, cards and gift wrap.

Also:

The former One Stop shop on Bryniau Road on the town’s West Shore is also being transformed into a shop selling disabled equipment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TELL on November 05, 2010, 12:27:54 pm
I never thought that I would say it, but "well done the council", they have actually posted some news about the firework display on their website! (it's on).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on November 05, 2010, 02:29:08 pm
They would have done better to post it one here at least some people will see it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 05, 2010, 02:37:05 pm
I doubt they 'officially' acknowledge our existence.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2010, 07:16:00 pm
 :)   I have never seen Mostyn Champneys so busy,most car park spaces taken,this is why no body will do anything to improve the town xmas lights because they see the town so busy so they say there is no need,lets have some PRIDE[not gay]. :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 07, 2010, 03:06:20 pm
In town today, I saw two lots of CCBC cherrypickers replacing dead bulbs on the Prom decorative lighting and about 6 gardeners planting out bedding plants on the Carlton roundabout. My questions are...why does this work need to be done on a Sunday and do the Staff receive extra pay?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on November 07, 2010, 07:15:09 pm
Hello Dave, I don't know about the lights but I think there is some percentage wage advantage in working for cbc on a Sunday. Actually,I would add,in my view, quite right too. But as to the flower bed in the Carlton roundabout, I'm on the Councils side here. Any work on an island such as this is going to create bad delays to traffic, and Sunday is, generally speaking, likely to see less essential (delivery vehicles, 10 min buses etc) traffic. Maybe more weekend visitors, but they have more time on their hands.  Mike  P.S.Yet again I seem to be arguing against a Moderator. I only hope I wont be marked down as an ackward bu----- and thrown out!!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 07, 2010, 07:39:12 pm
Throw him out !!
Now that the weather for Golf has gone, this man has too too much time on his hands...and is obviously bent on causing trouble.

Agreeing with CCBC and disagreeing with the Mighty Moderators is tantamount to anarchy ....

Now, lets get back to model railways and counting Eddie Stobart trucks.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 08, 2010, 08:59:09 am
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Agreeing with CCBC and disagreeing with the Mighty Moderators is tantamount to anarchy ....

Nihilist!

 ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TELL on November 08, 2010, 12:28:57 pm
Anyone know why there are no "free range" poppy-sellers in town this year? Plenty of shops selling poppies but somehow it's not quite the same.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 08, 2010, 05:11:46 pm
Anyone know why there are no "free range" poppy-sellers in town this year? Plenty of shops selling poppies but somehow it's not quite the same.
Perhaps a lack of volunteers? People these days lead such busy lives that not that many people have free time to help out, sadly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Essien on November 08, 2010, 08:35:47 pm
I met a poppy seller outside the Coop in Old Colwyn last week , it was piddling down and she was getting quite wet. i asked her "why dont you go inside"? her answer was "if the servicemen of this country have to do their duty in their conditions, then a bit of rain want hurt me" what a lady.  ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on November 08, 2010, 08:40:22 pm
Good to see you back Essien!  +}}{--
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 08, 2010, 08:41:26 pm
Essien, I mentioned you on the Shipping News topic:
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=265.0 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=265.0)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2010, 08:56:45 am
Looks like being a High Tide today if the winds keep up, might go and take a look. Tide is in at 12.27.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 09, 2010, 12:43:34 pm
Looks like being a High Tide today if the winds keep up, might go and take a look. Tide is in at 12.27.

Thanks for letting us know, was very impressive at Penrhyn Bay!

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2010, 06:39:21 pm
Looks as though the wind made it a better show at Penrhyn Bay and Rhos, rather than Llandudno.  :( Still, there were impressive amounts of foam flying around on Llandudno Prom:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Essien on November 10, 2010, 01:10:26 am
Good to see you back Essien!  +}}{--
Never been away Trojan, I've turned into a secret lurker. 8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on November 10, 2010, 01:26:06 am
Good to see you back Essien!  +}}{--
Never been away Trojan, I've turned into a secret lurker. 8)

That doesn't surprise me. DaveR has just e-mailed me some forum stats.  ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 10, 2010, 05:36:36 pm
Just been told now the old "FLICKS" has re opened by the guy who's got the chippy downstairs. I'll have to take a nosy, used to love it in there years ago. D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 10, 2010, 05:54:28 pm
If I've got it right it's called Mixers now and its a wine bar.  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on November 10, 2010, 05:56:22 pm
Just been told now the old "FLICKS" has re opened by the guy who's got the chippy downstairs. I'll have to take a nosy, used to love it in there years ago. D)

Used to frequent the place myself years ago. Was called the Criterion before it became "Flix".

Had an interesting "going to the flix" decor. Remember sitting having a drink on one of those old "cushy" cinema seats - I think they were from the Savoy when it closed down.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2010, 07:11:37 pm
KFC on Mostyn Street is closed for a few days for a complete refit, just in case you were thinking of going.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 10, 2010, 07:28:30 pm
I actually WAS planning to go...to KFC ...tonight!
I thought half time in the Man Utd v Man City game would be an ideal time to pick up a De-luxe Bone-less Box!

Sounds like its Pizza... again
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2010, 08:06:09 pm
I actually WAS planning to go...to KFC ...tonight!
I thought half time in the Man Utd v Man City game would be an ideal time to pick up a De-luxe Bone-less Box!

Sounds like its Pizza... again
Hold on...If you're not there, and I'm not there....who's representing the Three Towns Forum in the King's Head quiz?

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 10, 2010, 09:03:48 pm
King's Head Quiz?   Wasn't that on a Thursday?   Can't remember...

But I do remember that we were slightly drunk .... ZXZ   and very stupid.   {}{}
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2010, 09:39:50 pm
It was a Wednesday...and we came third! Even if we were assisted by two Americans and a dog.  $drink$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on November 10, 2010, 09:56:58 pm
I read today that Madoc Street is about to be closed to traffic to allow a Celtic Fair to operate I think for five days. I've never heard of this before, it seems like a good idea. Is it an annual event which Ive never heard of? Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2010, 09:59:33 pm
It usually takes place at the Mostyn Champneys retail park but it's moved to Madoc Street this year. Was supposed to be there last year but they couldn't get the permissions sorted out.

http://www.celticwinterfayre.co.uk/ (http://www.celticwinterfayre.co.uk/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 10, 2010, 10:14:25 pm
I really hope the weather is better for this year's Celtic Fayre than it was last year...

I struggled through the gales and terrible rain to go from tent to tent,  and stall to stall last year,  and it was ''reasonably'' busy ... but I reckon that if we get the bad weather out of the way this week,   it could well be packed every day that it is staged next week.

I'll be there .... so should YOU!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 11, 2010, 08:37:15 am
We will be there as usual, in our little hut, doing our stint, selling Christmas cards and goods for charity.

Come and buy ! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 12, 2010, 06:49:46 pm
I noticed that large swathes of the plastic sheeting covering the scaffolding on Wetherspoons are in shreds after the gales last night. Also the side sign on the empty Diskos shop had been ripped off.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 12, 2010, 07:45:51 pm
Indeed, we went from the Fat Cat to the Asia last night .. and as you walked round the corner into Gloddaeth St it was like a wind-tunnel.

The Paladium lookd like a massive sailing ship getting its sails ripped apart on a stormy sea.   Like the imagery?

Seriously though, it was getting battered.
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2010, 09:03:14 am
Looks like a large portion of the protective canvas is stuck in a tree in Rectory Lane !
Title: Lost & Found
Post by: TheMedz on November 13, 2010, 12:24:42 pm
I've just had a note pushed through my door re a lost 2 year old black (with white markings on it's chest) Labrador Collie cross called "Alfie" that went missing at 7pm last night (friday 12th November). I assume that because it's come through my door then the dog must  live somewhere on Great Orme. I thought it might be worth widening the distribution of the appeal for info by putting it on the forum. The phone number to ring if anybody finds or has seen the dog is 871516
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Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 03:18:06 pm
A cold but sunny morning for the Remembrance Sunday ceremony. Did the Mayor and assorted sidekicks really need a Chauffeur driven Limousine to travel the couple of hundred feet from the Cenotaph to the Town Hall?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 03:24:41 pm
Indeed, we went from the Fat Cat to the Asia last night .. and as you walked round the corner into Gloddaeth St it was like a wind-tunnel.

The Paladium lookd like a massive sailing ship getting its sails ripped apart on a stormy sea.   Like the imagery?

Seriously though, it was getting battered.
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Post by: Bellringer on November 14, 2010, 05:49:04 pm

A cold but sunny morning for the Remembrance Sunday ceremony, says DaveR

Looks like quite a good crowd at the Cenotaph and earlier Holy Trinity Church was full with an additional 20/30 standing.
Title: Re: Lost Black Labrador Collie Cross
Post by: Michael on November 14, 2010, 06:09:37 pm
It appears you live in a bad area for lost dogs!!  Only a few weeks ago a lady who lives further along Tyn y Coed lost a border collie cross. She asked me about it and, as it happens, I had seen this dog around five or six hours before. I told her but obviously I didnt know where it had gone. The next day she came back to me, "I've found the dog. I asked a cafe owner on the pier, he said he had seen a similar dog around the Carlton the previous night, and then I found the owners of the shop which used to be Wollies had kept him/her overnight, so Ive got her back. Here---theres the poster of her as a missing dog with phone number etc. You can keep it in case she goes missing in the future."   If I had been her I would take better care of my dog in the future rather than giving out posters!!! Mike
Title: Re: Lost Black Labrador Collie Cross
Post by: TheMedz on November 14, 2010, 06:22:59 pm
is it the same phone number Mike?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 14, 2010, 06:45:32 pm
   ;)Nearly 4 thousand people in Venue Cymru last night, 15 hundred watching Rod Gilbert and up to two thousand five hundred watching Motorhead,now that is what the town needs people coming into town and many staying over night,unfortunatly this does not happen very often,hence the Venue management are failing all Llandudno buisnesses. ¢¢##
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Post by: Paddy on November 14, 2010, 06:50:08 pm
It was great to see the town so busy Wrex, and a very welcome extra 4,000 customers for us cabbies!
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Post by: wrex on November 14, 2010, 07:00:17 pm
 :)  It certainly was nice Paddy but like i say you cabbies and bar owners, hoteliers,cafes are being let down by the lack of gigs in thr Arena and nobody seems to give a hoot just leave the management to fail the town. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 07:21:10 pm
It would be great to have the theatre and arena in use all the time Wrex, but its important to remember that the management don't book the acts, independent promoters do.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on November 14, 2010, 07:57:43 pm
As a matter of interest, does anyone know how much it would cost to hire the theatre or arena?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 08:11:40 pm
As a matter of interest, does anyone know how much it would cost to hire the theatre or arena?
The Arena would cost you about £4,500 for the night.
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Post by: Ian on November 14, 2010, 08:24:47 pm
Quote
its important to remember that the management don't book the acts, independent promoters do.

Being a promoter is a full time job, but it can be done by anyone who's sufficiently determined and has a good, logistical mind. But it's very stressful and extremely hard work.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 14, 2010, 08:35:06 pm
 8)   Dave surely its the managements job to persue the promotors and promote the LLandudno Arena,even the franchise for the caterers cannot be happy with the lack of gigs,for the westlife gig there was no bar in the arena itself,leaving the 2,500 audience to walk too the ocean bar,what was that about. :rage:If the rent for the night needs to come down to help the town thrive so be it,going by the amount of people in the pubs last nite there will be a few closing soon.The buisiest pub we went to last nite was the Kings Arms and that was because at about 11 loads came in from the Motorhead concert at the ARENA. ££$
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Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 08:40:50 pm
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its important to remember that the management don't book the acts, independent promoters do.
Being a promoter is a full time job, but it can be done by anyone who's sufficiently determined and has a good, logistical mind. But it's very stressful and extremely hard work.
The problem is that most major acts are under contract to a major promoter, so you can't book them even if you had the cash. Add to that the fact that a lot of acts will not even consider Llandudno as it's too far out of the way. Add again the large fees charged by acts and all the ancillary costs that a promoter has to pay, like security, insurance etc and you are laying out upwards of £20,000. That's a big gamble to take, especially if you consider acts like Westlife and the Rocky Horror Show did not sell out.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2010, 08:53:18 pm
8)   Dave surely its the managements job to persue the promotors and promote the LLandudno Arena,even the franchise for the caterers cannot be happy with the lack of gigs,for the westlife gig there was no bar in the arena itself,leaving the 2,500 audience to walk too the ocean bar,what was that about. :rage:If the rent for the night needs to come down to help the town thrive so be it,going by the amount of people in the pubs last nite there will be a few closing soon.The buisiest pub we went to last nite was the Kings Arms and that was because at about 11 loads came in from the Motorhead concert at the ARENA. ££$
I'm sure I was told that the bar in the Arena was not opened for Westlife as it was thought the majority of the audience would be under age!

Another big problem is that the Arena was designed for conferences, rather than concerts and, as a result, the ceiling is too low for major acts lighting rigs. I know, you couldn't make it up, etc.  ))*

I'd agree that the management could do more to try and pursue suitable acts.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 14, 2010, 10:27:49 pm
More can be done, and must be done to promote the Arena,

Its important that people note the REAL answer by Dave to Paddy's question.

i.e.,you CAN rent the arena for approx £4500 for the night ... but the REAL cost of staging the hole event is much higher .. in excess of £20,000
Thats because of ticketing, security, advertising, ..and the percentage that Venue Cymru want from the sale of your tickets.

Any attempt to break into the 'cartel' which is gig promoting will be met with immense frustration.   Any major talent is controlled by maybe two major management companies.... they have thier favoured promoters and venues, and these guys are most unlikely to even return your calls.

That doesn't mean that more cannot be done by the VC management to persue it though.
More nights like last night are vital, otherwise this white elephant will go the way of Conwy Civic Hall ... and close!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on November 14, 2010, 11:39:11 pm
You've taken the wind out of my sails a bit there Fester. I was just knocking up some Take That tickets on my laptop!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2010, 08:19:45 am
You've taken the wind out of my sails a bit there Fester. I was just knocking up some Take That tickets on my laptop!
Best knock that idea on the head, Paddy, Take That would want around £100,000+ to appear for the one show....  :o ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 16, 2010, 06:08:59 pm
Madoc Street is already closed for the setting up of the Celtic Winter Fayre. Should be a good event, I'll pop down to do some photos tomorrow afternoon.  :)
Title: Re: Lost Black Labrador Collie Cross
Post by: Michael on November 17, 2010, 08:41:50 pm
I'm not sure about the phone number, I threw the poster away. But the dogs names are not the same, I think the one I was asked about was called Peggy or something similar  Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 18, 2010, 05:56:08 pm
Celtic Fayre is well underway, quite a few about even though the weather hasn't been too good so far. Trees along Madoc Street are all strung with blue lights and look pretty good. Naturally, the Town Council haven't bothered to switch their Christmas lights on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on November 18, 2010, 06:29:28 pm
We had a walk around early this afternoon and there was a really nice feel to the whole thing. Some of the tents were really packed but surprisingly the food demonstration tent was almost empty. Still that did mean I could  go back and get a second helping of the wonderful seafood chowder that was being demonstrated.
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Post by: Nemesis on November 18, 2010, 08:47:18 pm
The place was packed when I passed through today early on then my OH and I went down at lunch time and it was very busy in the tents.
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Post by: Fester on November 19, 2010, 12:16:43 am
Yep, we had a wander around at around 3pm,  quite busy ... and weather was so much better than last year.

I was impressed by the diversity of merchandise this year.... very few cross-overs, and good quality too ... prices of food getting steep though.
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 19, 2010, 08:49:01 am
No cake stands on sale I take it ? :(
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Post by: suepp on November 19, 2010, 09:21:53 am
I'm looking forward to going today and also a stroll round town!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 19, 2010, 11:26:29 am
Didn't believe my eyes about an hour ago.
I was parking my car in the Summit Car Park on the Orme when I saw a traffic warden up there issuing a parking ticket ! >>>
There were only 4 cars there including mine, so he couldn't have made much of a killing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2010, 02:37:40 pm
If he gets 25% in every car park the Council will be quids in!               ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2010, 08:26:58 pm
Whilst wandering about in the gloom on the Orme last night taking photos, I noticed that the floodlighting on the Little Orme wasn't working. Then I noticed that the Great Orme floodlighting in the old quarry on Ty Gwyn road wasn't working either. Later on, when passing the top of Penrhyn Hill, I noticed that the 'Welcome To Llandudno' sign wasn't on either!

Not very impressive.  :(

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/329245797_1ddf8f74bc.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/329245797/)
It's true! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/329245797/#) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 20, 2010, 08:50:07 pm
    :(  I hope dave that your not suprised,this is the buisiest xmas shopping weekend with the celtic fair being on and our council cannot bring themselves too put any of the town lights on,they really are not interested in helping anyone who is bringing people into Llandudno. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 20, 2010, 09:03:28 pm
As some people may know, there is also an organisation (if one can use such a word) called The Llandudno Civic Council who claim that their main purpose is to monitor the efforts of the Conwy County Council and the Llandudno Town Council and to keep a watching brief on what they do and also their expenditure.

Whatever they are doing they must be doing it in total secrecy, as I have not seen sight or sound of any results of their efforts or any positive action in "monitoring" the two Councils, offering any suggestions, or even publishing any details of their deliberations or meetings.  I am sure local Blogs and Forums would give them houseroom if they were interested in keeping the public informed.  I, for one, would like to know what they are doing, if anything!   >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 21, 2010, 11:33:23 am
    :(  I hope dave that your not suprised,this is the buisiest xmas shopping weekend with the celtic fair being on and our council cannot bring themselves too put any of the town lights on,they really are not interested in helping anyone who is bringing people into Llandudno. :rage:

mmm The Celtic Fayre. I happened to be working there yesterday afternoon, in one of the huts. All afternoon some officious bod kept coming round asking if we had heaters on ( not allowed). If he'd seen the state of our fingers and toes he needn't have asked. Fair enough the generators would probably have exploded if eveyone had had one, BUT-- all afternoon the lights kept failing and we were plunged into gloom. Try helping people in and out of those huts and trying to decipher pound coins from 10 pences in the gloom. Not easy, as the afternoon progressed I had to ring my OH to bring a torch, just so that people could chose their Christmas Cards.
Another point-- there were no toilets provided so people were directed to Tribels, bet they were busy !
Ah well at least we raised plenty of money for the charity---  will still be there today-- not manned by myself, but come and buy if you need Christmas Cards.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 21, 2010, 01:02:59 pm
I had a quick gander round the fair this morning. Some lovely stalls there. Had to open up at 11am so didn't get much time. Everyone had raved about the Buffalo Burgers and steaks, so I bought some for tea tomorrow, can't wait to see the boy's face when he's presented with Buffalo.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 21, 2010, 04:10:02 pm
I think the big banner on the front of Wetherspoons is quite impressive:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 21, 2010, 06:01:46 pm
The Celtic Fayre had some interesting stalls .... but it was all a bit flat without any music on??   A band, some singers, some piped Xmas carols.. anything really.

Plus I noticed that organiser guy (Nigel Rose) up to a very clever (or naughty) trick
He made people queue outside one of the tents (not the busiest one either) .. he let people in in a steady trickle... and directed everyone to turn LEFT.
Seemingly a one way system was a good idea.

It was an even better idea given that his wife's stall was the first one on the left.... and you were forced to walk past it!


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on November 21, 2010, 08:23:01 pm
I think the big banner on the front of Wetherspoons is quite impressive:

What is it for?

So you don't forget what the building looks like, as they're taking so long with the re-vamp?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 04:51:17 pm
A Pedicurist is opening in early December in the old Dr China shop in the Victoria Centre.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Sara on November 22, 2010, 05:46:48 pm
The pedicure is done by little fish nibbling at your feet!!  ???
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Post by: Jack on November 22, 2010, 06:00:37 pm
Been lots of birdwatchers around the Mostyn Champneys carpark especially around Aldi, old Halfords and B and Q as there was a flock of 50 or so Waxwings (V pretty little birds from Scandinavia).  Friendly bunch too as they let me look thru their telescopes to get fantastic views. I only went in for some paint....... :)
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Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 06:04:16 pm
The pedicure is done by little fish nibbling at your feet!!  ???
Hmmmm...something like this....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 06:10:31 pm
Been lots of birdwatchers around the Mostyn Champneys carpark especially around Aldi, old Halfords and B and Q as there was a flock of 50 or so Waxwings (V pretty little birds from Scandinavia).  Friendly bunch too as they let me look thru their telescopes to get fantastic views. I only went in for some paint....... :)
I saw a lot of these on the beach at Colwyn Bay the other day and was wondering what they are? I'm sure they're very common.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 22, 2010, 06:18:39 pm
looks like an Oystercatcher, we used to see one that nested on the Cambrian Coast railway, within a couple of feet of the rail!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 22, 2010, 06:36:43 pm
Definitely an Oystercatcher.  Lots of them around this area especially near low tide when the sand is available.  They can also be seen at the RSPB at Llandudno Junction once they get the water back in the lagoon!   Here is an RSPB picture.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 06:39:50 pm
Thanks, both!  :)
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Post by: TheMedz on November 22, 2010, 07:43:37 pm
The call they make is a dead give away you can hear it from miles away. You will hear them before you see them in most cases.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2010, 08:38:54 pm
The pedicure is done by little fish nibbling at your feet!!  ???

Mrs Fester tried this in Manchester.... I do hope they are not Pirhanas?
She also thought such a franchise would go down well in Llandudno.
I disagree, because the one in Manchester was a 'stall' on the Arndale concourse (low rent)  .. the Dr China shop rent plus rates plus service charge works out over £30,000 per year.   The unit is very large and needs a lot of turnover to support that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 08:54:15 pm
As some people may know, there is also an organisation (if one can use such a word) called The Llandudno Civic Council who claim that their main purpose is to monitor the efforts of the Conwy County Council and the Llandudno Town Council and to keep a watching brief on what they do and also their expenditure.

Whatever they are doing they must be doing it in total secrecy, as I have not seen sight or sound of any results of their efforts or any positive action in "monitoring" the two Councils, offering any suggestions, or even publishing any details of their deliberations or meetings.  I am sure local Blogs and Forums would give them houseroom if they were interested in keeping the public informed.  I, for one, would like to know what they are doing, if anything!   >>>
I meant to reply to this post a day or so ago but forgot...

Yes, very unfortunately, the Civic Council appear just as reluctant to tell the people anything as the organisations they are supposedly monitoring! Again, why no website, blog etc to keep residents/taxpayers they supposedly represent informed? They could post information on here with pleasure, if they wanted, and the same goes for any other local organisation.

Lastly, with the greatest of respect, I find their lack of accountability concerning. Don't they effectively appoint themselves?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2010, 09:03:08 pm
With the greatest of DISRESPECT, I think they are a set of self-important pompous clowns.... which we can ill afford.

(I do like the Extravaganza though)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 22, 2010, 09:04:56 pm
Civic Council - The Past President and founder of this sham organisation was Dr Craig Cameron who passed away earlier this year.

The current Chairman is ex-Councillor Alan Guinn ably assisted by ex-Councillor Roy Gambrill plus a supporting cast made up of people from the town.  The term 'supporting cast' is rather appropriate as the whole group is rather akin to a Pantomime.     _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2010, 09:18:46 pm
The current Chairman is ex-Councillor Alan Guinn ably assisted by ex-Councillor Roy Gambrill plus a supporting cast made up of people from the town.
Ah. The same Alan Guinn who is organising the 'Friends of the Happy Valley' group? I think it must be over a year now that I've been waiting to hear about this Group and what it's going to do....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on November 22, 2010, 09:33:08 pm
An old saying comes to mind. Who will watch the watchers?  $wales They are self appointed, non elected, non effective and undemocratic.  $uk If you want to have a pop at the Council for being ineffectual / inefficient etc. there are plenty of other ways of doing it without becoming yet another hot air factory. $eu
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 22, 2010, 09:54:14 pm
The main production centre of hot air is located on the first floor of the Town Hall in Lloyd Street, Llandudno.   Unfortunately output is never at maximum capacity due to non performance, or non attendance, of many of the production vessels.  However, sufficient appears to be emanating to confuse the uninitiated public before it disappears from the building into the ether apparently without purpose or effect.   Or maybe it does make a minor contribution to the increase in greenhouse gases!    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 23, 2010, 08:28:32 am
The pedicure is done by little fish nibbling at your feet!!  ???
Hmmmm...something like this....

My daughter booked for this treatment but it was cancelled as all the fish had died !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on November 23, 2010, 09:53:44 am
wasn't me honest!

If you are interested in Birdwatching Waxwings are  causing excitement amongst the twitchers in B&Q car park and Craig-y-Don Park!http://www.northwalesbirding.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4606&start=15 (http://www.northwalesbirding.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4606&start=15)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 23, 2010, 02:58:53 pm
My friend was telling me the other week that there is a spot in Ruthin where you often get the Waxwings.  We passed it on the way to a walk in Llangollen and it is near to a roundabout on the industrial estate.
Apparently it is the number of Rowan trees there that are attracting the birds
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on November 23, 2010, 03:18:45 pm
Yes they have been seen in abundance down there, haven't seen them myself but yesterday there were watchers with zoom lenses and tripods all set up! I think the spot is at the far end near the garden centre
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on November 23, 2010, 04:05:38 pm
Hi Hugo, Just letting you know I am back in Llandudno. Trying to work my way thru this new format, so different since I was in Aus  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 23, 2010, 04:28:58 pm
Hi Jas, good to know that you're back on the scene, hope you are settling in to your new home and that you've brought your Winter woolies with you for the months that lie ahead.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2010, 06:43:43 pm
Trying to work my way thru this new format, so different since I was in Aus  :)
I bet the weather is, too!  :o

Welcome back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2010, 06:44:56 pm
Something seem to have gone a bit wrong with the KFC refurbishment, as it has reopened but the only furniture they have are some old patio type tables and chairs scattered around.  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2010, 05:58:33 pm
A bit of good news....
Just driven along the prom, and the town looks beautiful...BECAUSE.

1,The Pier Head is beautifully lit.
2,The light in Happy Valley Rd which shines on the Gt Orme is on,and looks great...

and...
3, The light on Ty Gwyn Rd, is actually shining again...(the other one which illuminates the Orme)  ... but that one is so dim that you can only see it by the time you reach North Parade...

Must be the pressure that DaveR applied to the Town Clerk !   Y^^Y &well&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2010, 06:17:13 pm
...and the 'Welcome to Llandudno' sign in Penrhyn Bay is lit up as well! Good stuff!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 25, 2010, 06:26:18 pm
Must be the pressure that DaveR applied to the Town Clerk !   Y^^Y &well&
It just goes to show a difference can be made through this forum. Its not all just coincidence,    )*)&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2010, 06:39:25 pm
I agree!
This Forum could definitely be a catalyst for a lot of good things.
There are lots of very intelligent and dedicated members (I don't count myself in that number)

Perhaps we could turn our combined focus on one issue....(a relatively small one like the Xmas lights, or a massive one like the Pier Pavilion) ... and not let go of it until some positive action is taken?  Why not?

There is something to be said for 'pester-power'

Through the medium of the Forum, the chosen issue would stay in the spotlight and visible to all.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 25, 2010, 06:46:59 pm
I agree!
This Forum could definitely be a catalyst for a lot of good things.
There are lots of very intelligent and dedicated members (I don't count myself in that number)

Perhaps we could turn our combined focus on one issue....(a relatively small one like the Xmas lights, or a massive one like the Pier Pavilion) ... and not let go of it until some positive action is taken?  Why not?

There is something to be said for 'pester-power'

Through the medium of the Forum, the chosen issue would stay in the spotlight and visible to all.




Good idea! I'll vote for the pier pavillion, which annoys me whenever I pass  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 25, 2010, 08:51:51 pm
 ;) Guess what i vote for. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 25, 2010, 09:54:38 pm
;) Guess what i vote for. :P
Erm........nooooo don't tell me!...I know this one......erm....erm......  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on November 25, 2010, 10:05:11 pm
I'm with Merddin, it must be the Pier Pavillion. But for Wrex's benefit, when we get the site tidied up we can surround it with pretty lights!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2010, 11:29:26 pm
Trying to be serious for a moment (most unlike me I admit) ... this Forum actually costs money to run.. and we don't pay anything....so perhaps we really should utilise it now to DO something for LLandudno (or any of the 3 towns)
If we don't, I fear that the Forum itself will become less relevant.   I doubt whether Dave and Ian would be happy to see it being used as a talking shop or a medium for games.  But I don't speak for them.

If we don't seize this opportunity and focus our efforts then the issue (for example the Pier Pavilion) will simply fade away again for a long period.

What we decide to do, who is involved and the approach we take should be the tangible subject of the next debate on this Forum.





 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 25, 2010, 11:37:45 pm
I would get involved Fester,  I truly think this forum could become a very important and formidable tool we could utilise to bring about change within the tree towns area. Lets see what happens.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2010, 11:53:01 pm
There we go... two of us already.

But you hit on an absolutely crucial point... NOTHING will happen if we wait to see what will happen.

So, I am now going to watch this thread with great interest .. to see what kind of momentum builds (if any)   $3towns$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 25, 2010, 11:57:40 pm
Ditto,

quote "they who think their too small to make a difference, have never slept with a mosquito in the bed"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 26, 2010, 08:13:58 am
This is exactly what a community forum should be doing. Becoming a force for change in the local area. 

There are, however, caveats.  We will not be taken seriously unless and until folk start using their real names on the forum. Dave and I do, but few others display theirs, and that can be a stumbling block, since it implies a measure of fear and reticence to those whose minds we would seek to change.  We don't need to reveal surnames;  in fact, I would countenance against that, although Mike Smith and Jason do, among others, but we need to show people that we're not afraid of speaking out in our own right, and not behind some faintly perplexing sobriquet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2010, 10:21:46 am
I don't mind what name people use on here (if we had 10 Daves it could get a bit confusing) but, obviously, we would have to use real names in any communication with outside parties.  :)

Some questions that need answers would be....

1) What problem building/site etc do we choose as the project?
2) What can we actually do to try and resolve the problem?

If I take the Pier Pavilion site as an example -

1) We could ask the local MP, Guto Bebb, to become involved.
2) The new Welsh Assembly member next May should be raring to go, get him involved.
3) Start an online Petition.
4) Start a Facebook page
5) Have a big banner made that said ' This site is a disgrace to Llandudno - Join us if you want to do something about it' and attach it to the fence surrounding the site.
6) Have an 'Eyesore Clock' on a website, that counts how much time has passed since the Pavilion burnt down.]
7) Ask locals and visitors what they would like to see on the site.

Make no mistake though, the Pier Pavilion is a very tricky issue to resolve. A private owner that doesn't want to sell, a Council that doesn't want to use its powers to acquire the site, a WAG that wont have much cash to give grants, and a recession that means private developers will struggle to raise any finance. Not being negative, just realistic.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dontheturner on November 26, 2010, 11:11:50 am

  Hello Pendragon - re: the Mosquito - please!  don't knock it, till you've tried it.  (Sorry! Guys)   Don
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 26, 2010, 12:14:59 pm
  :P I will chair the xmas lights for 2011 campaign. WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on November 26, 2010, 01:42:23 pm
Put me down for the pier pavilion what you suggest is excellent.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on November 26, 2010, 03:14:49 pm
I have no problem using my name, most posts explain who I am anyway.
I would like to be involved in the xmas lights too. There's lots of fund raising ideas to consider, take a leaf from Penmaenmawrs book.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 26, 2010, 03:33:42 pm
I've no problem with my name on here, it's Andy Jones, Merddin Emrys just sounds so much more interesting  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on November 26, 2010, 03:57:28 pm
I don't mind what name people use on here (if we had 10 Daves it could get a bit confusing) but, obviously, we would have to use real names in any communication with outside parties.  :)

Some questions that need answers would be....

1) What problem building/site etc do we choose as the project?
2) What can we actually do to try and resolve the problem?

If I take the Pier Pavilion site as an example -

1) We could ask the local MP, Guto Bebb, to become involved.
2) The new Welsh Assembly member next May should be raring to go, get him involved.
3) Start an online Petition.
4) Start a Facebook page
5) Have a big banner made that said ' This site is a disgrace to Llandudno - Join us if you want to do something about it' and attach it to the fence surrounding the site.
6) Have an 'Eyesore Clock' on a website, that counts how much time has passed since the Pavilion burnt down.]
7) Ask locals and visitors what they would like to see on the site.

Make no mistake though, the Pier Pavilion is a very tricky issue to resolve. A private owner that doesn't want to sell, a Council that doesn't want to use its powers to acquire the site, a WAG that wont have much cash to give grants, and a recession that means private developers will struggle to raise any finance. Not being negative, just realistic.  :)
I agree with all of the above and think there are some great suggestions, especially the Banner!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2010, 05:17:18 pm
I'm told that all buses from Llandudno heading towards Cowlyn Bay are being diverted along the A470 due to snow on the Little Orme/Penrhyn Hill.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on November 26, 2010, 06:39:37 pm
I'm told that all buses from Llandudno heading towards Cowlyn Bay are being diverted along the A470 due to snow on the Little Orme/Penrhyn Hill.

Dave, I went over the hill at 15:30 and it was clear. I came back at about 16:15 and it was bedlam. It took me 25 minutes to get from Penrhyn bay roundabout to the bottom of Craigside. I wonder if it was missed by the gritter?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 26, 2010, 06:55:50 pm
It took my other half almost an hour to get from the paddling pool to Penrhryn Bay Post Office.  I thought she'd been kidnapped but I wasn't so lucky!              ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2010, 07:03:22 pm
I noticed a heavy snow shower passing over the Little Orme at about 4.15pm, must have caused the problem.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 26, 2010, 07:22:24 pm
 :) It was a heavey hail shower and it did cause chaos. :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 26, 2010, 08:58:19 pm
Does anybody know what happened to the illuminated car park signs the town was promised and the town center manager. *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 26, 2010, 09:04:43 pm
I think it was Santa Claus who said he would provide them.   Don't tell me that you still believe in him?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on November 26, 2010, 09:27:06 pm
It took me 25 minutes to get from Penrhyn bay roundabout to the bottom of Craigside.

Meter wasn't running was it Paddy?  ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on November 26, 2010, 09:32:15 pm
New use for Mike's Golf Course
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 27, 2010, 04:34:06 pm
 :weeping: Oh my god i have just made the stupid mistake of going to Iceland foods,the car park was chaos its taken me twenty minutes to get to the lights,i must have mentioned this six months ago,Why oh why the managers of these stores are not going mad i don't know,they have to be losing some customers.The traffic lights on Conwy rd are only on green for 9 seconds causing chaos. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 27, 2010, 08:06:16 pm
Have I missed something in recent times about cycling being permitted on the promenade?

I am just catching up with this week's Pioneer and there is a letter in the Postbag from Edward R Pickering expressing 'thanks for giving cyclists prom rights'.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 27, 2010, 08:45:42 pm
I have now found something on the Pioneer's website www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/95431/thumbs-up-for-llandudno-cycling.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/95431/thumbs-up-for-llandudno-cycling.aspx)

I think Mr Pickering gives the impression that it will go ahead - maybe he is being a bit presumptious.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2010, 08:50:40 pm
The Llandudno Promenade Consultative Group. Let me guess, the same tired old faces desperately hanging on to the merest shred of supposed power?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 27, 2010, 08:53:39 pm
Cllrs John Ridler and Mike Hold appear to be the Town Council's 'appointees' but I was going to ask does anyone else know who is a member of the group?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 27, 2010, 09:40:52 pm
Mike likes to keep in touch with the Deck Chair Attendants hut that he built at great cost!   D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 27, 2010, 09:48:41 pm
Cllrs John Ridler and Mike Hold appear to be the Town Council's 'appointees'

Representation on Outside Bodies - Llandudno Town Council

www.llandudno.gov.uk/representation-on-outside-bodies (http://www.llandudno.gov.uk/representation-on-outside-bodies)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 28, 2010, 08:51:04 am
Has anyone heard of them doing anything constructive for any of those groups?     ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 29, 2010, 01:04:07 am
Before the discussion about using this Forum as medium for action descends into oblivion,
I would like to advocate we do a series of POLLS on the subject.
Logically this will gauge the strength of support, and get the general disrection established.

However I am not sure how to set one up, with the voting buttons etc .

Stage 1
A simple YES / NO question .... do you think the forum should be used as a campaign mechanism?

If sufficient voters are seen, go to....

Stage 2
Set out the main options (Xmas Lights, Pier Pavilion etc) to see which one should be the centre of focus.

If the level of interest is deemed to be insufficient, then we settle back into games and quizzes until that fateful day when Dave and Ian have next years bill to pay!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 29, 2010, 07:38:35 am
We can set up a poll, Fester, but there isn't the facility to do the if-then option that you suggest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 29, 2010, 07:43:49 am
I think that any action through this, or any other, Forum will be much too passive.  After all it is only words on a Computer Screen.

We need Action in the form of correctly presented Petitions, lobbying of MP's and Councillors and those in Authority.   We need organised Marches, publicity in all the available Media, and if neccessary withholding of Council Tax payments.  In fact any POSITIVE action we can conjour up.

Certainly we can issue the Rallying Cry through the Forum and let it be the avenue of communication but the Forum alone will not achieve what we are all seeking.     $wales   $uk   $eu
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 29, 2010, 01:02:08 pm
Yes Yorkie.  Thats it exactly.
The Forum in itself can't do anything... but the representatives OF the Forum can, through the actions you outline.
The Forum would then attract a lot of attention in its own right...and the issues could be followed by 'the masses'

Ian, I was only advocating the stage 2 vote 'IF' there were sufficient responders to stage 1.

After all, there would be little point dividing say eight people across five causes.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Micox on November 29, 2010, 04:55:11 pm
 ??? Wot's a goin' on? The last entry on page 22 was: "Has anyone heard of them doing anything constructive for any of those groups? " and now we have a chat about rebellion. *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 29, 2010, 07:08:04 pm
It must have been colder than usual on the West Shore today because I've just seen a very brief clip on BBC Wales and the water on the beach was frozen!   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 29, 2010, 09:03:41 pm
??? Wot's a goin' on? The last entry on page 22 was: "Has anyone heard of them doing anything constructive for any of those groups? " and now we have a chat about rebellion. *&(

Micox, this is because on this thread quite a few conversations can happen simultaneously.... its probably the busiest thread... try to keep up man!  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 30, 2010, 11:01:39 pm
Here..(hopefully) is a picture I took at about 3.30pm today from the Orme summit, looking across the Estuary...

Beautiful, but absolutely ball freezing..!!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 01, 2010, 09:09:20 am
Nice shot, mate.

A fair dusting of snow in the area today, side roads are pretty bad and even the main bus routes aren't great in places.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 01, 2010, 06:32:31 pm
My wife and I went up to Grandpa's grave on the Orme and there were some lovely icicle formations around Marine Drive.  The only camera I had with me was my little Sanyo Exacti so I did take a couple of shots.  If they are any good I'll post them on the Forum.  Got to start preping the evening meal now - something warming is the order of the day!                    :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 02, 2010, 03:05:23 pm
The Government is hoping Small Business is going to help power the economy out of recession, so it was very refreshing to see Gimberts on the Corner of Mostyn Street doing their bit by giving the town’s shoppers a free, up to date, weather forecast.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2010, 04:32:19 pm
Fester encouraged me to give Wetherspoons food another try, so we popped in this afternoon. Within 5 mins of entering, a fight broke out amongst 2 'regulars' that resulted in police and paramedics being called. Burger was good, though...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 02, 2010, 04:44:43 pm
Fester encouraged me to give Wetherspoons food another try, so we popped in this afternoon. Within 5 mins of entering, a fight broke out amongst 2 'regulars' that resulted in police and paramedics being called. Burger was good, though...

   We've never seen 'entertainment' in there and 6 of us are going there next week for a xmas dinner, we've always liked the food there, for my simple tastes its very good for the price  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 02, 2010, 05:30:38 pm
Fester encouraged me to give Wetherspoons food another try, so we popped in this afternoon. Within 5 mins of entering, a fight broke out amongst 2 'regulars' that resulted in police and paramedics being called. Burger was good, though...

The Burger was better than the fight... and lasted much longer.
Apart from the good value food, you have to admit it was a hell of a good shot with that crutch!   WWW WWW

Merddin, I am looking forward to my £7.99 Xmas Dinner in there, one day next week .. with or without the floor show!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2010, 05:44:10 pm
My wife and I went up to Grandpa's grave on the Orme and there were some lovely icicle formations around Marine Drive.
These were on the Marine Drive today:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5226367291_9403de76b0_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5226367291/)
Icicles (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5226367291/#) by SnakeCorp (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 02, 2010, 05:49:56 pm
Lot better than my shots which were not good enough to post!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 02, 2010, 06:38:34 pm
The Burger was better than the fight... and lasted much longer.
Apart from the good value food, you have to admit it was a hell of a good shot with that crutch!   WWW WWW

Merddin, I am looking forward to my £7.99 Xmas Dinner in there, one day next week .. with or without the floor show!


 L0L we're in there next Wednesday at lunchtime, looking forward to it, do I need to book the floor show? L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on December 03, 2010, 12:02:44 pm
snakecorp, I liked that photo of the icicles. I would love to send a copy to my friends in Aus & tell them, this is my shower now. lol. I am able to download it from here??
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2010, 01:47:12 pm
snakecorp, I liked that photo of the icicles. I would love to send a copy to my friends in Aus & tell them, this is my shower now. lol. I am able to download it from here??
Yes, just right-click on the photo, then a little menu should pop up with an option to 'save image as' or similar. Save it to your hard drive and then attach it to your email to send.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 03, 2010, 05:33:49 pm
I am absolutely gutted.... I have just arrived home, to find all the doors are open, and everything has gone.... ransacked,...totally empty.

Thats Christmas RUINED.!!!  ¢¢##


What sort of person would do this to someones Advent Calendar????  VV



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 03, 2010, 07:31:09 pm
Does anyone know why the police were seemingly randomly pulling over town bound cars near the Links Hotel this afternoon? On a similar note I was travelling back from Manchester along the A55 near St Asaph this afternoon I was passed at speed by about 6 police outrider bikes (Blue lights  flashing) followed by an unmarked  Volvo Estate and A Police Car (blue lights again) and then 3 further blue lights police bikes. My immediate thought was William on the way back from the world cup draw but instead of continuing onto Anglesey they all went off at the St Asaph slip road. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2010, 07:39:13 pm
As regards the second point, North Wales Police do a lot of police driver training, it could have been something to do with that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 03, 2010, 07:42:18 pm
Sounds to me like a VERY important person..... (in the Volvo) .... either Wills or Oscar?

Might have needed to go for a pee at St Asaph?   Or a Big Mac and regular fries?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2010, 07:48:55 pm
Sounds to me like a VERY important person..... (in the Volvo) .... either Wills or Oscar?
Oscar, indeed!  _))* _))* _))*

There was a lot of police activity outside the Orient Express cafe this afternoon.  An umarked police Focus went racing up Mostyn Street with lights flashing, followed closely by a police van. Went I went past about 30 mins later, there was still a police patrol car parked outside in the bus stop.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 03, 2010, 08:00:26 pm
Does anyone know why the police were seemingly randomly pulling over town bound cars near the Links Hotel this afternoon?

Apparently they were stopping cars with snow on the roof - issuing £60 fixed penalty notices - something about it being dangerous if it all flew off over windscreens, following cars etc.

Linda Groom put warning on facebook last night.
"For everyone who drives, if you don't already know, As of tomorrow the
Police will be pulling over anyone driving around with snow on the roof
of their car and will automatically be issued with a £60 fixed penalty
and 3 points on your licence!!! please repost this on your pages"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 03, 2010, 08:06:09 pm
The part of the RTA that applies:

s3 Road Traffic Act 1988 (as amended):- "Careless, and inconsiderate, driving. If a person drives a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or other public place without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road or place, he is guilty of an offence."

Never heard of it before in all my years, and that's quite a few!   ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2010, 08:07:52 pm
It's crazy. They should try using that section of the RTA to target all those idiots driving around town at top speed, instead of focussing on the easy targets yet again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on December 03, 2010, 08:13:35 pm
I saw an unmarked police car with flashing blue lights closlely followed by a poloce van with flashing blue lights at Bog Island this afternoon - can't remember what time but around 3pm-3.30?  They were heading up Mostyn St very quickly!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 03, 2010, 08:25:12 pm
Re Police action on roof snow.

I try to keep on top of what is happening with the Laws of the Land and this to me is just a bit of opportunism on behalf of the North Wales Police.   I wonder what PC Mike Smith thinks about it?   No doubt such action will make the public more antagonistic towards the Police and reduce cooperation and interest in their welfare.  

Moral in the force is rumoured as being low and the Officers employed on such excercises must feel that the motorist is just being persecuted, and realise the backlash that will result.

Why must they prosecute in this case? Surely better to pass on some advice which would be taken on-board by most responsible motorists.  But that solution is too easy, and certainly not cash generating.

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 03, 2010, 10:29:40 pm
I've said for some years that as far as motorists go, with all these dreadful speed cameras etc that the police are just tax collectors and now snow on roofs  :rage:  is half an inch ok or is there a maximum depth allowed? and if you clear it off on to the road will they fine you for littering!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 03, 2010, 10:37:31 pm
God help all coach drivers if they hear of this in Austria!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 03, 2010, 10:46:22 pm
sorry it's bit risque but how many points is this one worth?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 03, 2010, 10:47:02 pm
quite often I see the waves crashing on to cars on the promenade between Penrhyn Bay and Rhos on Sea, the police should fine the sea for careless and inconsiderate behavour  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 03, 2010, 10:47:59 pm
sorry it's bit risque but how many points is this one worth?

 L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 03, 2010, 10:48:50 pm
I was just driving along and they came out of nowhere!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 04, 2010, 10:52:21 am
Apparently, milk supplies in Asda are running low as all their milk comes from Yorkshire and tankers have not been able to get to the farms. This is were having local suppliers always pays off!

I also noticed in the Co-op yesterday that they had no sandwiches due to 'extreme weather conditions'!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 04, 2010, 01:57:38 pm
There is NO milk in ASDA.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 04, 2010, 07:17:29 pm
I cannot confirm this as being true, but years ago the residents of Llanrwst (a market town surrounded by farms) swore that Summerfields milk supplies came from Scotland. It was certainly a large enoiugh lorry to supply hundreds of retail outlets.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 04, 2010, 07:18:31 pm
Did anyone go to the xmas parade today, I was in work so missed it.  
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 04, 2010, 07:26:13 pm
Doesn't seem to be any reports from anyone.  I didn't go into town so can't comment.  No doubt the inquest and post mortem will follow in due course!   ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 04, 2010, 08:08:31 pm
My wife and I walked into town   about 4pm watched the Samba Band outside the town hall and then stood opposite M&S for the parade. As first time watchers we really enjoyed it. Surrounded by children who also seemed to be enjoying it.  Couldn't quite understand the link between Star Wars and Christmas but hey ho.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on December 04, 2010, 08:16:23 pm
Santa in his sleigh came past our house about 15 mins ago :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 04, 2010, 08:29:08 pm
Did any of hislittle helpers knock at your door asking for money?   If not it was probably the real Santa, otherwise it could have been the Round Tablers on their usual Xmas Fund Raising efforts.    ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 04, 2010, 09:46:38 pm
Mrs Fester and I popped down to the Parade...and enjoyed it as usual.
Seen about six of them, but its a nice thing to do..... you don't see such things in most towns!

Mercifully, the rain abated in the late afternoon,... in fact its a standing joke in our house that we know it will rain on parade day.. it always has.

I'm with Medz though,  I am sick of the sight of the tired looking Star Wars stormtroopers... they are in it every year, and poke thier noses into the Victorian Extravaganza parade too!    Thats even more inappropriate, at least Star Wars films are on telly at Xmas..( a tenuous excuse)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2010, 08:46:22 am
I saw this comment on Facebook last night:

"Just seen Darth Vader and some stormtroopers lead the Christmas parade through town - I wasn't aware that the 25th of December was the day we celebrated Anakin Skywalker's birth. Llandudno Town Council, you are WITHOUT QUESTION an absolute embarrassment and about as much use as a fart in a spacesuit. Go and take a 2,296ft walk on our 2,295ft pier."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 05, 2010, 08:59:53 pm
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 05, 2010, 09:01:50 pm
Re the above photo. Bad news for next years unborn lambs. You wont get to Ty Gwyn Road now!!! Hope someone remembers to put a fence at both ends
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2010, 10:16:37 pm
About time too!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 05, 2010, 11:27:56 pm
Good effort but it won’t keep the goats out
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 05, 2010, 11:50:58 pm
No, but, apart from Llys Heulig Drive, nobody really minds them. They are happy eating bushes (not grass) and have been around the Orme for well over 100 years---and the visitors on whom we all rely love them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 06, 2010, 09:09:41 am
Try clearing up if they have managed to get into your garden overnight !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 06, 2010, 11:08:31 am
Nemesis, I bet you have not lived here that long?
If you had you would know the Goats have followed the same pattern for years and years.
My husband remembers them going into his garden on Gloddaeth ave in the 60's.
They have an excuse to foul the pavement, not like the s..t machines that humans walk around with and let foul the pavements.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 06, 2010, 11:40:03 am
We had the goats in our garden constantly when we lived in Gloddaeth Avenue.   The peculiar thing was that they only ever ate one certain plant.  No good asking me which as I know nothing of horticulture.  The regular pruning by the goats seemed to help the plant rather than anything else.   Long may they reign, especially now that we have moved away!!     ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on December 06, 2010, 01:59:51 pm
There are are at least THREE shrub-like things they are partial to - hebes, pyracantha, and escollona. I have seen a friend's plants of those types well and truly pruned in Abbey Road.

PS Cartier, I don't think you are going to get a very polite reply from Nemesis - she has been around in Llandudno for quite a while.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 06, 2010, 05:16:41 pm
"PS Cartier, I don't think you are going to get a very polite reply from Nemesis - she has been around in Llandudno for quite a while."

Does anyone?
lol.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 06, 2010, 05:53:59 pm
Oh, I appear to have stirred up a hornets nest in mentioning the goats. Sorry. But Nemeses, I must say that as far as clearing up after them goes, I would claim to have the record experience on this subject. Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 06, 2010, 07:05:21 pm
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Does anyone?
lol.

Not sure what you mean by that, Cartier.  Can you elucidate, please?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 06, 2010, 07:35:40 pm
I think Cartier means,     " Does anyone get a polite reply from Nemesis?"    

Forgive me if my interpretation is incorrect.   ))*

But the lol probably indicates that it was sent in "humerous" tone.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 07, 2010, 09:45:13 am
He/she never seems happy with the town and is quite sharp on the key board.
I read on the old forum they had only been in the town 10/12 years, so if it's that bad why still here?
No rudeness intended on my behalf.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barbiroli on December 07, 2010, 12:20:37 pm
Cartier says no rudeness intended towards Nemesis, does`nt sound like it to me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 07, 2010, 02:34:05 pm
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No rudeness intended on my behalf.

I'm afraid that's not how it came across. Nemesis is a valued and regular contributor. I think your comment was misplaced.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 07, 2010, 02:41:37 pm
Nemesis has just come back on line after a hectic few days.
Cartier-- I don't know where you have suddenly sprung from, but I don't consider your comments worth answering.
You needn't think that I shall rise to your needling.
End of.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barbiroli on December 07, 2010, 02:43:41 pm
Good for you Nemesis  D) D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 07, 2010, 03:08:46 pm
 ;D Thanks !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 07, 2010, 04:53:33 pm
Well perhaps others can see what I mean now.
Keep your hair on. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 07, 2010, 05:25:35 pm
And to think I started all this off. I only wanted to show a photo of a cattle grid!!!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 07, 2010, 09:31:03 pm
Well perhaps others can see what I mean now.
Your absolutely right Cartier.............We can see exactly who has the Acid tongue and who's the sharp one on the keyboard.  :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 08, 2010, 12:17:39 am
To get back to the Goats for a minute, every year as the winter progresses and fodder gets harder for them to find they jump over my gate, eat most of what's left in my front Garden, leave me loads of little round presents and then move next door to do the same thing all over again. They wont get much this year as the garden is still in bags on North Parade, waiting for the recyclers to come and collect it. As the Goats belong to the town I've often wondered why CCBC isn't prosecuted by the RSPCA for animal cruelty. I understand that they are feral but surely they have a duty of care to provide them with fodder just like any other responsible animal keeper

PS Nemesis welcome back, I don't like needling either.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2010, 08:25:51 am
At one time the old Aberconwy Borough Council were the "carers" for the goats but they officially abrogated their responsibility in the 1990's (I believe).  Since then the goats were not looked after and were classed a feral.  At some time in the 90's Dr Craig Cameron, President of the Llandudno Civic Council, accepted responsibilty but in name only.   For the past few years CCBC have held a watching brief and have carried out a program of keeping numbers down by systematic birth control.   The Orme Wardens do report and take care of any sick or injured animals but that is as far as their interest extends.   The animals are feral exactly the same as the foxes, rabbits, rats, birds, and all the other wildlife on the Orme.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2010, 09:04:57 am
At some time in the 90's Dr Craig Cameron, President of the Llandudno Civic Council, accepted responsibilty but in name only.
What was the point of that, then?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2010, 10:10:13 am
We will never know!   Unfortunately Dr Cameron passed away earlier this year.

There was some publicity in the local rag at the time and even a short video on the BBC Welsh news

His intentions as a Town Councillor and as President of the Llandudno Civic Council, were always generous, but his method of implementation rather questionable.   )*)&

19 September 2000  BBC News
Tuesday, 19 September, 2000, 15:00 GMT 16:00 UK
Fight to keep goats Welsh

The goats have lived on the Orme for a hundred years
A Llandudno town councillor is fighting plans to move some of the town's unique wild goats to England to encourage breeding.
Experts are warning the species could die out unless they are moved from their home for the last hundred years on Llandudno's Great Orme.
But Dr Craig Cameron says splitting up the herd is unnecessary, and could bring to an end the goat's long association with the headland.
The goats living on the Great Orme today are descendants of the first breed to come to Britain.
The cashmere goats were maintained by Queen Victoria and were used as mascots for he Royal Welch Fusiliers.
But the county council is warning that unless they are broken up and encouraged to begin breeding at other sites in Britain the herd will have no future.
Town councillor Dr Cameron said he would prefer to keep the herd together.
"The herd has user rights, " he said.
"They have been here for 100 years. and I intend to make sure they stay here."
Dr Cameron believes there are sufficient numbers here to keep the species thriving, and he is taking steps to try and prevent any break up.
He is hoping to become the legal owner of the herd to allow the goats the right to stay on the Great Orme.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2010, 06:04:11 pm
I have had the great pleasure of meeting both Nemesis and Pendragon.
They are both lovely and very forthright people...... :twoface: :twoface: Neither suffer fools gladly!
(You are both quite similar in that respect)
Different writing styles maybe..?
Anyway I won't hear a word against them....(because I am deaf)


Now...regarding the Goats, they are in my garden regularly and have decimated various trees / shrubs.
I would like to know one simple thing.   Am I allowed to eat them?    $dins$ $dins$   $hands$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 08, 2010, 06:17:06 pm
aah thanks for that Fester.  :P

If you accidently on purpose ran a goat over thus rendering it road kill, you could eat it I would think.

I'M JOKING OF COURSE  L0L

 $hands$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2010, 06:40:41 pm
aah thanks for that Fester.  :P

If you accidently on purpose ran a goat over thus rendering it road kill, you could eat it I would think.

I'M JOKING OF COURSE  L0L

 $hands$

Mmm good idea.... I won't bother fixing that slipping hand-brake, for the next time I see them in the road!   Yummm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2010, 06:49:03 pm
No point risking damaging your car - just shoot them as trespassers next time they encroach on your property.    Drag the carcass into the garage or shed and I doubt anyone would even know.  The scalp and horns will look great on the trophy wall.                         ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 08, 2010, 07:12:50 pm
They really are tough old animals. A couple of years ago again on the Colonnades leading up to Happy Valley, I helped a RSPCA Inspector remove a 4 foot metal stake on which a goat had impaled itself. It had jumped on to it as it came down the hill. The point had gone in at the front just under its breast bone, passed right through its chest cavity and exited just behind its rib cage. As luck would have it, the skewer had managed to miss every thing vital on its way through. After a good twenty minutes tugging and pulling we finally managed to get it out and did that dammed animal show any gratitude? No not a bit of it. It just shook it’s self down and then ran off up the hill.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 08, 2010, 07:30:38 pm
BlongB!... Sorry, I should have told you at the time.... the Goat sent you this T-shirt to show its gratitude..

Plus did you know that the 'Thank You Goat' ... is akin to the Xmas Turkey, in the Muslim religion?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 08, 2010, 07:38:45 pm
When I liver in Egypt Fester, all the neighbours would buy a live one just before the end of Ramadan. They brought them home and kept them on their balconies until the allotted time and then  ))* they were no more. Can't see Environmental Health letting us get away with that in North Wales somehow   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 08, 2010, 07:47:15 pm
Blongb, absolutely first class, and the RSPCA inspector. I doubt very much whether I could helped in a situation like this. I would be good at running for help, and probably that is about all. Unbelievable that the goat survived. What did the RSPCA man make of the fact that it didnt appear to have suffered any serious harm?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2010, 07:54:53 pm
Blongb, absolutely first class, and the RSPCA inspector. I doubt very much whether I could helped in a situation like this. I would be good at running for help, and probably that is about all. Unbelievable that the goat survived. What did the RSPCA man make of the fact that it didnt appear to have suffered any serious harm?
Just because the goat ran off, that doesn't mean it didn't suffer any serious harm. A goat will do anything to get away from humans, even if badly injured. Remember that time when efforts were made to round up a group of them for rehoming, they jumped off the cliffs rather than allow themselves to be captured. Sadly, I suspect the one that ran off almost certainly died at some point later.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 08, 2010, 08:00:49 pm
We both put it down as sheer fluke. Do you remember the judge at the athletics meet who managed to get himself skewered with no lasting side effects, except a couple of extra holes, same thing with the goat. No sign of bleeding and as far as I know the thing is still alive and well  ££$ It had supposedly been stuck there for at least 3 days before we got to it, so I think if it was going to bleed to death it would probably have done so by then given the time frame
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 08, 2010, 09:42:26 pm
I have had the great pleasure of meeting both Nemesis and Pendragon.
They are both lovely and very forthright people...... :twoface: :twoface: Neither suffer fools gladly!
(You are both quite similar in that respect)
Different writing styles maybe..?
Anyway I won't hear a word against them....(because I am deaf)


Now...regarding the Goats, they are in my garden regularly and have decimated various trees / shrubs.
I would like to know one simple thing.   Am I allowed to eat them?    $dins$ $dins$   $hands$

Thanks Fester and I'm glad we are of a similar nature Pendragon!

Now as for the goat which you are about to curry----- please don't put your extractor fan on fully or I imagine that we'll get the pong down here below you !
 _))* _))* _))* _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 09, 2010, 12:43:44 am
All this talk of eating the Orme Goats prompted a prominent member of this Forum to contact me with this fantastic story.
Its all true, but the member in question wishes to remain anonymous,  well just for now...

Just after the war, the member in question and their family had nowhere to live!  So they dwelled for a time in the gunsite buildings on the Orme's western slopes.
Food was on short ration, so the Father shot wild rabbits for food for his family.
Every now and again, the odd goat might 'accidentally' get in the way.
When this happened, there was a surplus of meat, which couldn't be stored (no fridge or freezer), so the member's father sold it in the town, and passed it off as Venison!
No one ever twigged, and repeat orders were frequent.

I love this account, (and more which came my way) I do't think it should be anonymous any longer... in fact it deserves to be written into a book.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on December 09, 2010, 12:56:26 am
Sounds like one of the Cox family escapades to me!  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 09, 2010, 02:30:21 pm
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Well perhaps others can see what I mean now.
Keep your hair on.

Cartier: your style of posting approaches flaming. That is prohibited under our Ts and Cs and we will take action if you persist.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 10, 2010, 12:08:24 pm
Llandudno is a great place to live,but we must get a proactive council and clear the dead wood who are holding the town back. :rage: :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 10, 2010, 01:20:00 pm
I got a big powerful chainsaw when you're ready!      Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2010, 01:47:29 pm
I popped into Wetherspoons yesterday and was interested to see that they had a large framed display all about Alex Munro on the wall by the rear entrance steps. As part of the display, there are a few photos and old programmes, including oddly enough, a photo of the same numbered programme that I have on the forum gallery. Do I have grounds for suing Wetherspoons?  :o  ;D

[smg id=465]
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 10, 2010, 05:00:02 pm
Must be worth a weeks free beer!    Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 05:25:21 pm
The pier is having a lot of repair work carried out at the moment:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 12, 2010, 07:10:00 pm
Its good that refurbishment is under way.  But one thing worries me.
Quite a few of the cast iron side rails seem to have fallen apart when removed.
They are brittle and rusted through in parts and I don't see how they can be replaced.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 07:13:06 pm
I noticed that also. Cast iron is very brittle anyway, so it is inevitable that some will be broken whenever they are removed for maintenance. I suppose some new ones will have to be cast. Maybe they can put the kiosk rents up to pay for it?  ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 07:25:09 pm
I know Fester will be interested in this. I've found that last year (year end 2009) that Six Piers Ltd made a LOSS of £7.3 million. This year, they made a profit...of £174,000 on a Turnover of £9.6m. That's rubbish.  Incidentally, South Parade Pier in Portsmouth has been sold, meaning that the company should really be renamed Five Piers Ltd!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 12, 2010, 07:31:08 pm
Maybe they can put the kiosk rents up to pay for it?  ¢¢##

 L0L L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 12, 2010, 08:00:19 pm
By even joking about that subject, it will simply give them more ammunition to do just that.

There are 2 ways to look at any set of figures.
After a loss of over £7m in 2009, they may well have had a target in 2010 to halve that loss, or even break even.   
This may well be seen as an excellent result.   Without knowing the businss plan, who knows?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 08:14:23 pm
I doubt Trevor Hemmings reads this forum....  ::)

It's an appalling result, regardless of the plan. A very poor profit as a % of turnover and I suspect an even more miserable return on capital employed. A business that controls such great assets should be making tons of cash. Should be a GOLDMINE!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 12, 2010, 08:59:17 pm
If you look at all the pies that Trevor Hemmings has his fingers into the little blip in the fortunes of Six Piers won't keep him awake for one minute.  He is personally reckoned to be worth in excess of £300m.  Also the loss on Six Piers will probably be brought into a consolidated statement of accounts with all the rest of his interests and the individual significance will be lost.

I don't think anyone should worry about rent increases!      >?>?? >?>?? $hands$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 12, 2010, 09:23:38 pm
If you look at all the pies that Trevor Hemmings has his fingers into the little blip in the fortunes of Six Piers won't keep him awake for one minute.  He is personally reckoned to be worth in excess of £300m.  Also the loss on Six Piers will probably be brought into a consolidated statement of accounts with all the rest of his interests and the individual significance will be lost.
It's a little more concerning when you consider that, a few years ago, he was worth £1bn!

Seriously, of course, the more immediate relevance is that a business that makes a loss or very small profit is not generating the capital needed to fund future investment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 12, 2010, 09:39:59 pm
However, it is often prudent where consolidation has to take place to allow a loss situation with one or other of the companies.  Without details of all the pies and the countries in which they are registered there could well be a tax benefit associated with the loss.   With a large Empire cash generation in one small part is not neccessarily that important as support is available from the group as a whole.   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on December 14, 2010, 12:21:06 pm
Just noticed a new sign in Past Times shop window.  This shop is only open for Christmas etc. So another empty shop in January!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 15, 2010, 05:24:00 pm
A friend who lives in town told me apparently there was petrol put through the letter box of the Cost Cutter by the Gresham yesterday by a disgruntled customer, is that true  ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on December 15, 2010, 07:21:25 pm
A friend who lives in town told me apparently there was petrol put through the letter box of the Cost Cutter by the Gresham yesterday by a disgruntled customer, is that true  ?

I heard that someone set fire to the Londis store in the early hours at the top of Madoc Street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 15, 2010, 07:33:02 pm
I don't think they set it on fire as they were caught on CCTV across the road but they did put petrol through the letter box ? They got the guy, I was told some "local nutter" was responsible he did it as he'd been barred or  something.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 15, 2010, 07:47:33 pm
I was told some "local nutter" was responsible he did it as he'd been barred or  something.
There's plenty to choose from!  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 16, 2010, 04:21:13 pm
I was told some "local nutter" was responsible he did it as he'd been barred or  something.
There's plenty to choose from!  :o

Ha ha, yes... that description hardly narrows it down.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 17, 2010, 04:12:21 pm
Can't believe all this snow, have you seen the size of the flakes, I'm hoping I'll be able to get home tonight, I bet Conwy is even worse. Nice to see though isn't it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: tolly on December 18, 2010, 12:37:54 am
Teehee i know what you mean,like something out of Monty Python....... D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2010, 02:54:41 pm
I was in Mostyn Street today standing by the Traffic lights outside of M and S waiting for my wife and was looking at the traffic in the street.
The lights were on red so a car travelling in the direction of Craig Y Don  stopped in the centre of the road and then someone just undertook him and shot through the red lights and parked on the zig zag lines by the bank. They were just picking someone up with their shopping.
It was lucky that he didn't run over any one, another guy looked at me in disbelief but by the time I got to the other car he was pulling away probably blissfully unaware of the stupid thing he had done. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dontheturner on December 22, 2010, 01:09:47 am
Hugo,--- I understand the Driver - he is most likely from Thailand.

My friend, is a lecturer at the King's College, in Bangkok, and was turning right, into the College yesterday morning  (With his signal going) when some prize Thai Driver, overtook, into his Front Door - my friend now has a head injury, and no transport.    TIT == This Is Thailand     dontheturner
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2010, 08:19:47 am
I was in Mostyn Street today standing by the Traffic lights outside of M and S waiting for my wife and was looking at the traffic in the street.
The lights were on red so a car travelling in the direction of Craig Y Don  stopped in the centre of the road and then someone just undertook him and shot through the red lights and parked on the zig zag lines by the bank. They were just picking someone up with their shopping.
It was lucky that he didn't run over any one, another guy looked at me in disbelief but by the time I got to the other car he was pulling away probably blissfully unaware of the stupid thing he had done. :rage:
Amazing, total stupidity.  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 22, 2010, 09:56:03 am
What's been particularly noticeable over the past few weeks is that as soon as we get a substantial amount of snowfall, people seem to disengage their brains. Motorists seem to think they can park anywhere - including the middles of roads, people walk in the road instead of the pavement, and that at a time when the roads are decidedly more lethal, owing to the slushy mess of partially frozen grit, ice and dirt, drivers seem to think speed limits are an aspiration, rather than a restriction and - generally - folk seem to lose their sense of perspective.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on December 22, 2010, 11:18:21 am
You cant believe the snow Pendragaon, This my first Christmas in Wales for over 30yrs. I was thrilled when I first saw it, now I am stuck in the House I am not so sure!!!. Just hope my brother can managed to pick me up on the 25th so I can have some Turkey :laugh: I must say tho it does all look very pretty out there.  MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE.  Jas
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 22, 2010, 11:27:14 am
Merry Xmas to you too Jas.  VV %0%
It does look lovely, but it's causing havok to  businesses.
I won't be able to open today. I'm hoping Xmas eve will be ok as we have a party on.
Theres supposed to be more snow on the way again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cartier on December 22, 2010, 11:49:40 am
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Post by: Jas on December 22, 2010, 02:30:37 pm
(http://)  I am trying to insert a photo, but not sure how.....hope this works
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 22, 2010, 02:57:16 pm
Click on the blue 'reply' button (bottom RH side) then 'additional options', then browse.  That reveals your desktop, where you simply select the image you want to upload and click.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 22, 2010, 02:59:34 pm
More comprehensively:

How to upload photos to a post.

1) After writing your post, underneath the message box, click on Additional Options.
2) Next to Attach, click on the 'Choose File' button.
3) Select the photo file you want to use from your computer's hard drive (it must be less than 300k in size).
4) If you want to add another photo, click on (more attachments) and repeat the procedure.
5) Click on Post and the message & photo should be displayed.

You just add the photos and they are displayed at the end of your post, you don't choose where they go in the post. You can add a maximum of 4 photos per post at present, although we can easily change that if you would like more.

Have a go, any problems, just let me know and I will advise.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on December 22, 2010, 04:10:24 pm
thanx Ian, Will try again.    :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2010, 04:11:50 pm
I understand there has been a rock fall on Marine Drive and it will be closed for a while.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on December 22, 2010, 11:31:55 pm
Dominic says your closing next month, bloody shame pendragon.

Cartier I may get a bollocking for this from the moderators but I'm going to say what I think anyway.
There's something particularly spiteful about you. A fly in the ointment so to speak. Your posts are always tinged with a sour vindictive tone.  Dom is in the process of selling the club not that its any of your business but I assure you your not telling me anything I don't know, much to your disappointment I suspect. We will endeavour to keep the club open for as long as possible. No closing date has been determined yet but I assure You of this Cartier I will know well before you do.
 >>> >>>  :rage: WWW WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 23, 2010, 08:16:08 am
Pendragon:

I must apologise to you for not dealing with Cartier's posting when it was made.  When I saw it, I wondered if there's been any pubic announcement but clearly there hadn't.  We don't want to step in prematurely, but it's now clear that what you have just posted shows we should have acted sooner.

Cartier:

You have continually flouted the Ts and Cs of this forum and if there is one more instance we will take firm action. For now this is a formal warning - and it's your last.


 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on December 23, 2010, 05:36:48 pm
Watch yourself Cartier!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2010, 01:45:47 pm
Congratulations to the swimmers today, they said the sea temperature was -13C surely there would be sea ice? anyway well done to them!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/PC260008.jpg)n

strange effect of water here!!
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/PC260008-2.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/PC260013.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/PC260015.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 26, 2010, 02:10:46 pm
Nice pics, Andy. That girl in the bikini must have been cold!  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2010, 02:32:08 pm
Didn't see you there, perhaps you were in the water ;D Someone announced that it was minus 18 degrees, hope for their sakes your figure was correct!
Imagine having all that wet cold camel costume draped round you . Yeuk !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2010, 05:52:24 pm
they were saying minus 13C but I'm sure it would freeze below minus 9C Ian put a link to a site the other day which shows sea temperatures

http://www.seafordweather.co.uk/wl/UKSeaTemp.htm (http://www.seafordweather.co.uk/wl/UKSeaTemp.htm)

mind you I'm sure for the swimmers (of which I was not one  _))* ) it felt like minus 20C  :o :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 27, 2010, 08:39:14 am
Quote
mind you I'm sure for the swimmers (of which I was not one  ) it felt like minus 20C

Given the air temperature, that's eactly what it would have seemed :-))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2010, 06:49:25 pm
Nice video about the recent snow in Llandudno:

Llandudno @ Christmas 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImCfAZcQ0nA#)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on December 27, 2010, 07:23:09 pm

http://www.sea-temperature.com/country_water/great%20britain/25 (http://www.sea-temperature.com/country_water/great%20britain/25)

This shows sea temperatures of 7 - 9 degrees, still cold enough to worry a brass monkey. You have to admire the spirit of anyone going for a swim in that!

The Aberporth bouy obs is 8 degress today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 27, 2010, 07:24:21 pm
Brilliant video.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 27, 2010, 08:12:35 pm
Excellent video....Well Done Dave R !
The person who spliced all that together must have covered a lot of ground in a short time...because the light was so similar.
Really enjoyed it...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 28, 2010, 12:16:17 pm
Excellent Video
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 28, 2010, 03:54:29 pm
That's a great video and I've passed it on to a number of friends as I know they'll enjoy watching it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 28, 2010, 04:16:08 pm
Loved the shot of my back gate Dave, your a brave man using that path in the snow. Ring the bell and get a glass of cheer next time  Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 28, 2010, 04:20:08 pm
Heyyyy, I didn't make the video, I just posted the link to it on here! I'd love to take the credit for it but, no, it was not me, I cannot take the credit!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on December 31, 2010, 12:22:34 pm
Does anyone know if the pubs are open on New Years days if so which one's we've got family over and we might end up killing each other if we spend too much time indoors? and what times Asda is open today?
Thanks folks
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 31, 2010, 12:34:07 pm
Give 'em a ring!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on December 31, 2010, 02:48:50 pm
Asda's website says that Llandudno is open till 7pm today and open tomorrow 9am to 6pm.

Sorry don't know about pubs.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 31, 2010, 05:49:40 pm
Most (maybe all) pubs are open New Years day .... The Queen Vic or The Fat Cat in Llandudno are recommended for lunch...

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on December 31, 2010, 06:29:42 pm
Give 'em a ring!

I don't think there's any Jewellers open.

It's cheaper to buy alcohol too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 01, 2011, 05:09:05 pm
Amazing the number of businesses closed in Llandudno today, there were a lot of people about but many of the cafes, bars and shops were closed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on January 01, 2011, 06:09:57 pm
Amazing the number of businesses closed in Llandudno today, there were a lot of people about but many of the cafes, bars and shops were closed.

What were the people doing, just walking around?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 01, 2011, 06:46:00 pm
No - They were hopping mad!      L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 01, 2011, 08:17:36 pm
Last New Years Day, I wondered around in Llandudno, had a great Sunday Lunch in the Queen Vic... did a bit of shopping and I recall most bars and businesses were open.  It was on that basis that I informed Dingo that most places would be open.

But...as Dave says it was astonishing how many places were closed.
The town itself was very busy... and there were loads of people milling around on the Prom and the Pier...with nothing to spend their money on.

I phoned up a few places that were closed, to ask if they would be open tonight, or even tomorrow.
A couple were opening tonight.   But some won't be open until Tuesday!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 01, 2011, 08:26:36 pm
Then the businesses will be moaning at the end of January that trading has been awful. Moral of the story - you can't take money if your business is closed. Mr Dickens knows this full well, his businesses are always open.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on January 01, 2011, 11:56:06 pm
Then the businesses will be moaning at the end of January that trading has been awful. Moral of the story - you can't take money if your business is closed. Mr Dickens knows this full well, his businesses are always open.

*photo attached to the moral of the story*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 02, 2011, 12:19:16 am
Then the businesses will be moaning at the end of January that trading has been awful. Moral of the story - you can't take money if your business is closed. Mr Dickens knows this full well, his businesses are always open.

And Rightly So Dave.....   They are usually occupied by you and I !!
If he opens anymore,  I'll go there too!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2011, 08:52:20 am
I hear there was a serious house fire in Trafford Park, Penrhyn Bay, last night.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 03, 2011, 09:21:57 am
I heard that on BBC news this morning, although he mis-pronounced 'Penrhyn' and called it 'Pentryn'.  However, it wasn't on the text service at that point, the excellent adjunct to the BBC news which - sadly - is bearing the brunt of the cutbacks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2011, 09:24:17 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12106875 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-12106875)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on January 03, 2011, 03:53:11 pm
Am I alone in thinking that the streets and public areas of LLanduno are getting worse ?
A walk along the North Shore prom this week and it's noticeable that ownershave not been cleaning up after their dogs even when they must be in full view from the hotel windows. There was all too much evidence of people having had the misfortune of treading in it too.What a dreadful impression to give our visitors.
Is it any wonder that many councils have already taken the draconian stand of banning dogs from their public places. At the end of the day the owners only have themselves to blame if this happens.
I think that dog walkers who cannot demonstrate the means to clear up after their animals when out and about should be given spot fines. The excuse that they haven't got a bag just doesn't wear.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2011, 04:11:40 pm
And in the past it has been some well known members of the town who can well afford silver plated bags if neccessary!   ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 03, 2011, 04:16:46 pm
We walked from Deganwy to Conwy and back yesterday, the footpaths were utterly disgusting with dog fouling. It really was a case of dodging the turds. It really is disgraceful as well as offensive, not to mention illegal.

And before any comes up with us being anti-dog, we are dog owners, but hopefully responsible ones.

Birch the owner, don't blame the dog.  

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2011, 04:48:00 pm
I walked along the coastal path from Conwy to Llandudno yesterday afternoon as well, some sections of it were covered in dog mess, it was every couple of feet. It's obviously not just the odd errant dog owner responsible, it is more widespread than that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 03, 2011, 05:34:13 pm
Irresponsible dog owners even leave piles of it on the Pier!
In full view of children and onlookers.
It is also all along Happy Valley Road outside the Grand Hotel.
It makes me sick.

I don't like dogs actually.... but I also don't blame them for all this either.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 03, 2011, 05:35:19 pm
I totally agree, even the footpath on the bridge was awful. Whilst I am not advocating confrontation, the only way to deal with this is not dog wardens (they are never about when required) or CCTV, (culprits maybe seen but cannot be traced) it's reasonable people politely pointing out to errant dog walkers the error of thier ways.

I, for one, will be carrying a pocket camera with me on my walks in future, as a last resort, to photograph both offenders and fouling.  I am fed up taking our visitors and guests, not to mention our 6 year old Goddaughter,  for walks up to our knees in dog doggy doos.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on January 03, 2011, 05:38:48 pm
Am I alone in thinking that the streets and public areas of LLanduno are getting worse ?

The North Shore gets like that every Winter Dave and the situation will only improve when or if the Blue Flag regulations ban dogs from the Beach for the season. Then their wonderfully trained owners will take them off to defecate somewhere else without clearing up behind their pets.

We also have to put up with the official Blind Dog toilet which is located the prom side of the North Parade zebra crossing. Wonderful idea of the Council to offer the Blind Visitors staying in the Belmont Hotel a place where they can take their dogs to do there business, but unfortunately no one has made any provision to clean up behind them. Several times this last summer I had to warn families with young children not to sit and picnic there because of the risk of Blindness http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3116684 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3116684)  

Don’t hold your breath for a quick solution as there is only one Dog Warden to patrol the whole of Conwy County
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 03, 2011, 06:21:05 pm
it's in Penrhyn Bay too, along the paths to Angel Bay, up the Little Orme, along the prom to Rhos on Sea, it's one of my pet hates and there are signs warning of a £1000 fine, about time it was enforced, money to be made there! I've said for some time that they should bring back dog licences, I'm not a dog lover at all and I know most owners are good etc but enough is enough even friends with dogs are unhappy about it  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2011, 06:49:51 pm
The main problem is that owners take their dogs out to have a crap.  A well trained dog can be taught to defacate in their own garden where it is easy to clean up and of no problem to other people.

For some reason most owners do not make any attempt to train their dogs, for behaviour, socialising with other animals or hygeine.   Such training is not difficult, after all, us humans tend to have regular habits with regard to our own requirements to empty our systems!   We were subject to training, dogs should also be trained.

There is some good training information on the Internet such as:

http://www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/puppy-house-training.html (http://www.dog-obedience-training-review.com/puppy-house-training.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 01:32:56 pm
I have to admit to being at a loss to understand why anyone would consider that the reintroduction of dog licences would do anything to stop dog fouling. There is already a £1,000 fine for fouling that is not enforced, so who would enforce new dog licences? The one, singular, Conwy Dog Warden?

Legislation does not work in anti-social matters, there is no-one to enforce it.

The only hope is peer-pressure and making it perfectly clear that dog fouling, like drink-driving, litter and bullying is totally unacceptable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2011, 01:51:01 pm
Yorkie said:-
For some reason most owners do not make any attempt to train their dogs, for behaviour, socialising with other animals or hygeine.   Such training is not difficult, after all, us humans tend to have regular habits with regard to our own requirements to empty our systems!   We were subject to training, dogs should also be trained.

Not always possible Yorkie, how many of us have gone out of the house and then had to go to the loo in town?     Same applies to dogs too but there is no excuse for anyone not picking up after their dogs have fouled.   It is not acceptable and if anyone sees a dog crapping they should approach the owner and ask him to pick it up.
If they are worried about confrontation then take a photo as Richard has suggested and send the photo of the person and/or car to the Dog Warden. Don't forget that you are paying the Dog Warden's wages and they need to know what and where the problem is.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 04, 2011, 02:27:32 pm
Sorry, I should have added that sometimes we all get "caught short" or have the occasional "accident" and animals are no different. >>>

I am of the old school that believes in prevention rather than cure!      :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 04, 2011, 02:28:10 pm
I have to admit to being at a loss to understand why anyone would consider that the reintroduction of dog licences would do anything to stop dog fouling. There is already a £1,000 fine for fouling that is not enforced, so who would enforce new dog licences? The one, singular, Conwy Dog Warden?

Legislation does not work in anti-social matters, there is no-one to enforce it.

The only hope is peer-pressure and making it perfectly clear that dog fouling, like drink-driving, litter and bullying is totally unacceptable.

the money from the dog licence could pay for a warden to enforce the law and then you would also get some fine revenue too  D)  something needs to be done quickly !  
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 04:42:28 pm
Whilst I am loath to disagree with a senior member of this forum, the suggestion of the reintroduction of a 37 pence licence that was scrapped in 1987 will solve this problem is fantasy.

I remember all the arguments of the time, including the suggestion of rasing the cost of the licence, but only responsible dog owners had licences anyway.

We have the legislation in place already with the sancton to impose a £1,000 fine that could be used to raise revenue, if that cannot be enforced, further legislation will not work.

You can legislate against anything you can think of, but if it cannot be enforced, it's a waste of time and counter productive.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2011, 04:58:17 pm
Whilst I am loath to disagree with a senior member of this forum
Please feel free to disagree with anyone you like. All opinions are equally valid.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 04, 2011, 05:34:07 pm
Whilst I am loath to disagree with a senior member of this forum
Please feel free to disagree with anyone you like. All opinions are equally valid.

In that case...here goes.
There are too many dogs (my opinion) and a walk from Church Walks to The Pier today along Happy Valley Road re-affirmed my belief that the license fee should be £2500. (for any new dogs)  So as not to penalise current owners on limited income.
The fine for fouling the pavements should be £2500 (not a maximum, just a flat rate)
The revenue from all these payments to finance a dog patrol service, one that prowls around towns, just like traffic wardens do, WAITING for dogs to foul, and checking that owners are licensed.

Simples!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 06:23:52 pm
Fester,

Your lucid simplicy and transparancy of vision is a lesson to us all to enable a practical and sensible solution to a problem of only minor irriation.

As you infer, we are taking this issue all too seriously.

The fact that it blights our community, affects local the local economy, spoils our enjoyment of our open areas and potentially blinds children is of course, of negligable consequence.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 04, 2011, 06:26:49 pm
yes please do disagree, otherwise there's no discussion :)
and I'd have the licence fee a lot higher than 37p  I was thinking that if the £1000 fine was enforced once then it would be one hell of a deterrent and no one else would get caught so no wages for the warden!  I'd set the licence fee at around £50 per year, lower for oaps  I normally hate legislation and rules and fines but nothing else seems to work not even the recent story of the young girl blinded in one eye  :rage:

http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/108348/toddler_blinded_by_dog_poop (http://thestir.cafemom.com/toddler/108348/toddler_blinded_by_dog_poop)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2011, 06:40:32 pm
Richard, as a dog owner I am 100 per cent behind everything you have said and I would think that every one else is too.
There is little we can do about legislation etc to prevent this type of thing happening but we do have a Dog Warden in the area.   Have you tried contacting the Dog Warden and if so what has he said?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 07:26:28 pm
Hugo, thanks for your support.

I understand that the Bank Holidays have streched CCBC's re-opening until tommorrow when I intend to try and contact someone at the Council. I shall also bring this to the attention of Jason Weyman and Mike Priestly; I have to say that they are very good at taking up issues of local concern.

I shall keep this forum updated of developments, this is a serious and rather horrible issue that needs practical attention.

I will also enquire as to t.he current situation regarding the pedestrian crossing of the railway at Deganwy.

Regards

Richard
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on January 04, 2011, 08:15:48 pm
Richard et al,

I have only just picked up on this thread about the Dog Fouling.
The £1000 fine is enforced and several people have been caught, but they don't receive the greatest of press coverage.
The issue is the chances of the limited resources catching someone at it in the right location at the exact right moment. Resource is an issue (I understand there has been a long term illness issue).
The Police (inc PCSO) also have the capability to issue fines.
I have suggested a name and shame place on the internet to try and help deter others. The situation does seem to be getting worse. I will speak with Cllr Mike.
We have just gone through a Service Prioritisation process to rate all the services we run. I would suggest that the Dog Warden will actually have come up high on the list.
It is not a insignifcant problem and something we have failed to come up with a solution.

As for the footpath across the railway in Deganwy, again this is something that me and Mike are working on. We have done a lot of background work and engaged the time of Council officers. Unfortuately we have no legal case to prevent Network Rail closing. The footpath has never been defined and because it is over a railway it can not be protected even if we can prove it has been used for 100+ years (which we can).

Some individuals may have the option to legal challange based on clauses in their deeds which allows access to the forshore. Network Rail are not the easiest people to work with and we are waiting for them to come back to us.

In the meantime, Network Rail are discussing another piece of land in Deganwy to construct a CCTV camera. I have asked the officers to link this request to giving us a "Permissive Path Order" over the railtrack at Pentywyn Rd. Network Rail have come back to try and disconnect the 2 discussions. I have "advised" our officer to respond and instruct them that we are not preprared to do so. I won't say much more on this, as I wouldn't want to jeopardise proceedings. But this is something that we are keeping a close eye on.

Should we need the "power of the people", we are ready to push the button and get the support of many people behind us. Network Rail are aware of this, so I'm hoping we can acheive something through negotiation first.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 04, 2011, 08:20:13 pm
 :) Jason while we are talking about railways ,do you know when the Llandudno railway project is going to start. :weeping:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on January 04, 2011, 09:15:38 pm
:) Jason while we are talking about railways ,do you know when the Llandudno railway project is going to start. :weeping:

wrex, I still belive this is on target for starting in early spring. I will ask some questions tomorrow to see if I can get some better dates. Cllr Philip Evans will know the latest.

I posted this info a while back:
"The situation is very complicated and Conwy CBC will act as a lead partner to apply for the grants required to do the work. There are 3 funding streams required to bring the plan together National Station Improvement Scheme (NSIP), Taith and WEFO.

The NSIP is a scheme provided by WAG following European Convergence funding. To apply for such funding Network Rail must first have performed a tender process for the a Design and Build contract.

WEFO is the Welsh European Funding Office.

“Taith” is a joint board of the six county authorities in North Wales working together to deliver substantial and significant improvements to public transport across the region. Taith have agreed last week that Llandudno Station would have first call on grants available next year. We now have to see if this is enough assurance for Network Rail to proceed with the tender process.

Network Rail have completed the Initial Design stage and should be ready to go out to tender for the Design and Build contract. Assuming all agreed in principle funding comes through then works would be due to start in Spring 2011.

The scheme involves improved passanger facilities, including an enclosed waiting area where the vehicular entrance is currently and a bus stop outside. Car parking will be provided where the disused platforms now are. Cars and Taxis will enter the site where the old building recently demolished was."


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2011, 09:18:59 pm
If only we had a few more councillors like yourself, Jason, willing to come on the Forum and update us about various local issues.  &well&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Richard on January 04, 2011, 09:38:48 pm
DaveR,

Wholly agree. I have a rather sad view of politicians in general, but Jason has my catagorical support in his bid to be an AM., I will just be sad to lose him as a local councillor.

It's rather a shame that other local councillors don't emulate him.

R.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on January 04, 2011, 10:08:13 pm
Thanks Dave and Richard,

The strange/annoying thing is I'm not doing anything difficult.
Where I can help I will, where I can't I will say, but will try and find someone else who can.

Christmas is always a time for reflection for me. My decision to stand for the Assembly has taken some of that reflection time over the last week. Should I stay and make a difference in Conwy, or try to make a difference with more strategic issues at Assembly level. It is a difficult one, but I'm sure the electorate of Aberconwy will answer the question for me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 04, 2011, 10:25:58 pm
Jason, fantastic to see your help, perhaps if the £1000 prosecutions were well publicised it might help solve the dog problem
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 05, 2011, 12:05:55 am
Fester,

Your lucid simplicy and transparancy of vision is a lesson to us all to enable a practical and sensible solution to a problem of only minor irriation.

As you infer, we are taking this issue all too seriously.

The fact that it blights our community, affects local the local economy, spoils our enjoyment of our open areas and potentially blinds children is of course, of negligable consequence.

Richard, I fail to see how, in my posting I led you to believe I wasn't being serious.
Trust me, I was being deadly serious.
Take it from one who has trod in the damn stuff recently.... and had numerous customers walk it into my shop.
The figures I quoted are precisely whats required to deal with the issue.
There ARE too many dogs.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 05, 2011, 08:38:09 am
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Not always possible Yorkie, how many of us have gone out of the house and then had to go to the loo in town?     Same applies to dogs too

I'm not sure it's quite the same for dogs. There are three differences:  dogs tend to be fed the same food and same amounts of food on a daily basis, a practice which is recommended by Vets and hence which tends to make their systems predictably reliable. Secondly, dogs can indeed be trained to defecate on command.  We accomplished that with each of our dogs over many years.  Only sickness or deterioration in old age seems to change that. Thirdly, Canine and Human metabolism is fundamentally quite different; you can only draw a really meaningful comparison between us and pigs, oddly.  Or perhaps not  WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 05, 2011, 08:40:56 am
Quote
Whilst I am loath to disagree with a senior member of this forum,

We don't have 'senior' members Richard;  only folk who post a lot  :)  And debate is what we're about, so jump on in :-)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 05, 2011, 08:42:28 am
Quote
There ARE too many dogs.

There are. And too many clueless owners.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 05, 2011, 08:47:06 am
and again this Christmas more stories about unwanted puppies, why can people not see that taking on a dog is a massive and expensive responsibility not to be undertaken lightly, bring on the dog licences!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on January 05, 2011, 09:02:27 am
I might be wrong here but I remember there only being a hand full of traffic wardens in the area, until the council realised the revenue that could be collected and now they're everywhere. Maybe they should employ more dog wardens with the sole purpose of catching these lazy dog owners. I hate to see dog mess it's disgusting and dangerous. I wouldn't hesitate in telling anyone to clear up after their dog. There's no point in reporting the owners with no evidence. Get these dog wardens to go covert, pretend they are walking their dogs along the paths etc where the majority of offenders are taking their dogs. Think of the revenue. I think a £1000 fine is too much. £250 is a much more attainable amount to actually pay therefore creating more revenue. A dog licence costing £50 is a good idea but I fail to see how this would deter rogue owners. Dog wardens on commission thats the answer me thinks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on January 05, 2011, 11:37:01 am
Matelots in Llandudno has closed until further notice. The owner may employ another Manager but in the present finantial times and the 20% vat it has become increasingly hard to make the business viable. I met some fantastic people who I do not want to lose contact with and enjoyed the job however it is now time to move on and try something completely different maybe.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 05, 2011, 11:39:35 am
Sorry to hear that A. Hope you find something.
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Post by: Pendragon on January 05, 2011, 11:56:45 am
Yes so do I but it's the wrong time of year really. These things happen for a reason though I find. Next chapter coming up lol. Thanks Nemises.  :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 05, 2011, 07:03:40 pm
Sorry to hear this, Angie, not the best start to the New Year for you. Hope you get things sorted out soon.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 05, 2011, 08:08:15 pm
Many thanks Jason,i have been trying to get any information for months and not one councillor bothered to get back to me,yet a Deganwy councillor comes up trumps,once again thanks.
I see the Cross Keys has new management again and the old Burger King store has lost its sold sign,thats a shame.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on January 06, 2011, 08:26:48 pm
Just read on "Oscar" that the bin-men have caught up.

Had a visit from the bin-men today. It's the first time they've been for four weeks and they took half the rubbish. I've been storing foodscraps in my freezer for a fortnight because I didn't want them to rot outside. I put them out on my way to wotk this morning and they're still there. Should I bring them in and put them back in the freezer?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 06, 2011, 10:13:44 pm
Depends if you have any local tom cats investigating your rubbish and leaving their usual trade mark!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 07, 2011, 08:54:53 am
It is snowing again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 07, 2011, 09:32:39 am
It's also snowing again in Penrhyn Bay!  Get the sled out!     $uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 07, 2011, 09:40:40 am
Got the Wellies airing again
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 07, 2011, 09:41:51 am
It's not going to last, will have turned to rain by lunchtime, I reckon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 07, 2011, 09:43:43 am
Hope all is clear for Sunday-- Family invasion !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 09, 2011, 02:41:42 pm
 :) Just been looking at the Victorian Extravaganza on google and noticed there are two special trains coming into town for the weekend,the first is a steam loco on the Saturday run by Vintage trains and the other is a diesel hauled train from Sheffield run by Statesman rail. How refreshing it is to know that this event still manages too pull in such interest,love it or loathe it where else would you see such steam traction engines and victorian funfair on the streets. ps the modern funfair pays for the whole event. :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 09, 2011, 08:00:34 pm
I noticed whilst walking on the Orme this morning that the much vaunted new cattle grid at the top of Happy Valley has a bit of a flaw - the pedestrian gate at the side has a gap at the bottom large enough for smaller sheep to easily push themselves through!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on January 09, 2011, 08:28:36 pm
OOOOhhh dear. I was having a nice day before I read this. No futher comment
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on January 09, 2011, 09:55:58 pm
ps the modern funfair pays for the whole event.

Live and let live Wrex, just as long as the Extravaganza continues
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 09, 2011, 11:55:36 pm
I forgot to mention yesterday and today....The Sheep are everwhere again.

About 40 of them with blue dye branding on them wondering around Llywynon Road on Saturday,  and today (sunday) they are peppered all around the lower slopes of The Orme.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 10, 2011, 08:06:33 am
They certainly were on Thursday.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 10, 2011, 08:57:34 am
There have been alot on the road past St Tudnos and near there on the Marine Drive.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on January 10, 2011, 12:35:08 pm
So it appears they are on the "wrong" side of this gate. Just as well there is a gap at the bottom---perhaps one or two might find their way under whilst trying to go uphill.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on January 10, 2011, 03:34:52 pm
A whole flock of them wandering around on the lower part of the Orme around Black Gate currently. Same yesterday but they were chased up the hill by a dog that the owner had kindly let off the lead (See other posts re Dog mess for the possible reason for the owner doing that)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 10, 2011, 06:40:05 pm
 :DWatching Michael Portillo in Llandudno on his train journeys BBC 2
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on January 10, 2011, 06:43:59 pm
Many thanks Jason,i have been trying to get any information for months and not one councillor bothered to get back to me,yet a Deganwy councillor comes up trumps,once again thanks.
I see the Cross Keys has new management again and the old Burger King store has lost its sold sign,thats a shame.
wrex,
I received an update this morning on the progress.
"Network Rail and the Council's European Funding team are currently working on a bid for ERDF funding. When this is approved Network Rail will be in a position to award a contract. It is still proposed to start work on site in the 2011-12 financila year and complete the following year."

This doesn't sound as promising as the news we had from last September which was more specific of a contract award in the Spring.

See the Local Eyesore thread which gives details of a consultation event at Venue Cymru.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2011, 07:56:55 pm
This is one of two shelters in Haulfre Gardens, Llandudno. The other shelter is even worse - boarded up, unusable and the roof is disintegrating.  When CCBC received a large Lottery grant back in 1999 to renovate the parks, it was on the understanding that they would be appropriately maintained afterwards. What on earth must our visitors think when they see things like this?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 10, 2011, 08:48:46 pm
Problem is that if you rebuild the wall one day it will be knocked down the next.   How much can CCBC realistically spend on continued maintenance in such circumstances?  After all it is the ratepayer who meets the cost in the end.     :rage: 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on January 10, 2011, 08:53:15 pm
Why not ask the Community Payback Scheme to include this on their list and others like them.
 ?{}?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2011, 09:20:11 pm
Problem is that if you rebuild the wall one day it will be knocked down the next.   How much can CCBC realistically spend on continued maintenance in such circumstances?  After all it is the ratepayer who meets the cost in the end.     :rage: 
CCBC haven't spent one penny on it since it was renovated using Lottery Money in 2000! That's the problem - it's down to neglect more than vandalism.

Community Payback would be a good idea for something like this, it's a fairly simple task.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 11, 2011, 02:08:56 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/01/11/record-passengers-on-great-orme-tram-despite-collision-55578-27963333/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/01/11/record-passengers-on-great-orme-tram-despite-collision-55578-27963333/) *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 11, 2011, 03:23:52 pm
QUOTE:  Cllr Billy Evans, of Llandudno Town Council, is thrilled with the tramway’s popularity. He said: “It’s fantastic news. All we need is the weather and people would have no need to go abroad with the attractions we’ve got.”    L0L
UNQUOTE

Well, I suppose, we have the Pier, The Tram, The Cable Car and , and ....... er,  and ...... er, er......  and we have the Pier, The Tram, The Cable Car and er .....!   
Who does he think he's kidding? 
Of course, if it should rain one can always go on the .....er.......er......!      _))*

Got to go a long way to stop folk going abroad, Billy!      ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2011, 05:16:58 pm
"Conwy County Borough Council has a good record on health and safety.”
That's not what the Accident Investigation Report said!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on January 11, 2011, 05:24:23 pm
OOOhhh, Yorkie ---- the passengers on the cablecar and the tram can see at least three good tourist attractions, and two of them are heaving with customers on a nice day. The third one isent actually heaving, maybe an erratic trickle,  but----give me time!!! Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 11, 2011, 05:35:45 pm
Very well putt Mike

 :golf:
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Post by: Yorkie on January 11, 2011, 06:40:48 pm
Hole in one there Mike - really stymied yours truly!    ))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2011, 06:10:20 pm
I see Frank Gorka is still valiantly struggling to push forward his plans to renovate the West Shore Tram Shelter, after FIVE YEARS to trying. Full credit to Frank, I spoke to him today and he just keeps on plugging away at it, won't take no for an answer. We could do with more people like him in the town.

Plans for West Shore tram shelter at stalemate
Jan 13 2011 by Judith Phillips, North Wales Weekly News

NEARLY five years after they were first proposed, plans to convert a derelict Victorian tram shelter into a tourist attraction have made little progress.

Businessman Frank Gorka wants to restore the Grade II listed building at Llandudno’s West Shore and convert it into a small cafe and tourist information centre.

But legal wrangles over the tenancy and a slow moving planning process mean he has become frustrated.

Llandudno Town Council has now decided to take the initiative to try to get the project moving.

Cllr Billy Evans said he and other councillors had recently met with county council officials and hoped they had come up with a solution.

“Having had discussions with Mr Gorka it’s obvious he’s not very happy with the delays. It will be five years next May since he first said he’d be interested in renovating the tram shelter.

“He has employed an architect to draw up plans and submitted an application for change of use, all of which has involved considerable cost and he’s upset at the way he’s been treated by the county council,” claimed Cllr Evans.

He said Mr Gorka felt the county council had made unreasonable demands but was still willing to proceed with the project if a lease could be agreed and permission granted.

Cllr Margaret Lyon sympathised with Mr Gorka.

“This has been going round and round in circles. I admire Mr Gorka for persevering for so long as he has been given the run around by the county council,” she said.

Cllr Terry Davies said the county council was now suggesting that the town council retain the lease of the building and sub-let it to Mr Gorka.

“This is how we should proceed. Mr Gorka has spent thousands on this project and will have to spend a good deal more so he should have it rent free for at least the first ten years,” he said.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 13, 2011, 06:25:50 pm
Dealing with the Council (any council) is notorously cumbersome and frustrating.

Perhaps Mr Gorka should re-direct his investment and noble efforts towards one of the town's private enterprises?
They would be more eager to accomodate him, and perhaps a privately owned eyesore would be improved very quickly, into an attractive and profitable business?



 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2011, 06:37:44 pm
What could you be thinking of?  ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2011, 06:41:02 pm
Mr Gorka should put up with his frustration, after all it is not the first time he has had dealings with the Town or County Councils.   He has made a concious effort to get his ideas into fruition and that has been a personal and commercial decision on his part.  Why he should receive any form of compensation either in kind or otherwise is a non starter.

There was enough of Mr Gorka's rumblings when he took over the Rest and be Thankful.  "Thankful" he obviously was not, as he then spent the next few years pushing his development plans to almost make the Cafe into a residential property.

Leave the Tram Shelter as a permanent reminder of our past heritage and put your money into one of the empty shops in the Town, Mr Gorka.

As for Councillor Terry Davies's suggestion of 10 years free rent - he must be living in cloud cuckoo land as usual!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2011, 06:50:36 pm
There is, actually, a precedent already set in the area of a rent free period in return for renovation work. CCBC has recently granted the lease on the old refreshment kiosk on Deganwy prom to someone who will renovate in return for several years free rent. Being as Mr Gorka's renovation costs will be substantially higher, a 10 year rent free period would not seem unfair.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2011, 07:26:47 pm
Point.  Mr G wants the building for a Commercial venture.
He is aware of the present structure and condition and what will need doing to make it suitable for his purpose.
I presume that he has worked out the viability of the venture and what period over which he will need to amortise his initial investment.
Consequently I can only see it as a typical commercial risk that he must take on his own shoulders.

Otherwise, the opporunity of taking a lease on the premises should be put out to tender and all interested parties invited to participate.  With 10 years free I might even be prepared to put in a bid myself!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 13, 2011, 08:02:16 pm
 :D  Dave i will keep trying for xmas illuminations this town deserves. ))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2011, 08:04:53 pm
And I'm with you all the way Wrex!      $uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on January 13, 2011, 09:44:10 pm
What a lot of English residents who have moved into North Wales fail to understand is, it's not the Welsh way to say NO to any proportion: no matter how reasonable, relevant, far fetched or ridiculous, it might be.

No they’ll form a committee to discus the matter in depth and then when any problem arises, they will form a sub committee which in the fullness of time will report back to the main committee.

The main committee will discuss the sub committees report and ask for clarification on this and that, then refer it back to them to discuss it further.

Its even been known for the sub committee to refer the matter to Outside Consultants, which will take at the very minimum a year to report back and cost you and me  (the rate payers) an arm and a leg.

Of course all of this takes time, years in fact when they don’t have to make a final decision  because its still being discussed in committee and because of the Local Government Act 1972 Section 100A Schedule 12A you can't even use the Freedom of Information Act to find out what they were discussing in the first place.

I had a lovely example of this when my Ward Councillor didn't bother to turn up to the sub committees meeting and the Press and Public were excluded and I quote “as they involve the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in the Act”.
 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>

I'm going on holiday on Saturday for a couple of weeks to ponder what should be done about it. Perhaps we should form a committee and discuss it when I get back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 14, 2011, 12:22:12 am
BlongB !!
It is not a wholly Welsh trait to be indecisive, or shroud and delay matters in endless trails of unnecessary administration.

I have worked for private English and French corporate businesses all my career.   75% of the staff in those businesses always seemed to have no other function than to frustrate progress and produce nothing.


 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 14, 2011, 07:50:31 am
Like Fester I have also worked for foreign companies for many a year, including the French, Swedish, Germans and Japanese.    Despite their success I found that the worst were the Japanese who (in my day) would do nothing without having had a committee meeting! 

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2011, 05:46:11 pm
The massive banner on the front of Wetherspoons blew off earlier today. Still very rough in town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on January 15, 2011, 05:59:43 pm
did it blow clean off the building  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2011, 06:17:51 pm
I think it was hanging off. The Police arrived and I think contractors removed what was left of it.
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Post by: Pendragon on January 15, 2011, 07:30:30 pm
could have been some major Public Liability claims for that one. its huge  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 15, 2011, 07:37:24 pm
Obviously very little risk assessment.  'elf an' safety out of the window!      ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2011, 09:44:46 pm
:DWatching Michael Portillo in Llandudno on his train journeys BBC 2

The programme can be watched on BBC iplayer here:
BBC iPlayer - Great British Railway Journeys: Series 2: Chester to Conwy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00xhxys/)


The aerial shot of Llandudno Station was completely embarrassing....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on January 16, 2011, 07:30:14 am
I must admit the aerial shot didn't stick out for me in the programme. I think Llandudno came out of the programme really positively, as did the Conwy Valley and the whole of the other areas covered in the last three programmes, apart from maybe Blaenau's lack of greenery. I think any potential tourists would look at the programme and think it would be a good place to visit.
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Post by: suepp on January 16, 2011, 01:20:31 pm
it made me want to visit and do the train trips!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 17, 2011, 09:35:49 am
lots of Minis on the prom yesterday

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1193.jpg)

this was my favourite, a very nice Riley Elf

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Jan%202011/DSCF1192.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 17, 2011, 03:18:07 pm
That Riley Elf was a nice looking motor but by the time I arrived most of the cars had gone.  There was a nice looking one that caught my attention and it was a limited number export to South Africa,  I had my camera with me but I didn't take any photos of the cars for some reason!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on January 17, 2011, 05:24:53 pm
No cycling on the Pormenade!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on January 17, 2011, 05:45:17 pm
No cycling on the Pormenade!

Shame about that.

I was thinking of doing the Santa Monica to Llandudno run.

http://www.cyclingnorthwales.co.uk/pages/santa_mon.htm (http://www.cyclingnorthwales.co.uk/pages/santa_mon.htm)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 17, 2011, 06:36:38 pm
How did I miss you people?--See my pics on What's on in Llandudno.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 17, 2011, 07:00:52 pm
How did I miss you people?--See my pics on What's on in Llandudno.

Just seen your pics, very good, until you mentioned it I'd not seen it in 'What's on'
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Post by: Nemesis on January 18, 2011, 10:28:08 am
,Twas a good turn up--- they have now supposedly limited the entry to 200 cars. A few years ago we were actually taking part and when all the cars were in the summit car park on the Orme no one could move they were so tightly jammed !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on January 20, 2011, 01:07:23 am
Did you wear your Mini skirt Nemesis?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2011, 08:57:54 am
No Trojan I left it in the wardrobe, It was a bit nippy for a Mini ! _))* Not now having a Mini I thought that it wasn't essential !
Don't think there is anything special to ride in what my OH has now got ! Don't think they still make V8 Vegetable Juice !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2011, 09:32:13 pm
Llandudno Library will be reopening next Tuesday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on January 23, 2011, 06:09:13 pm
Anyone got any ideas why the Police Helicopter was doing low level circling round the Orme for about 30 minutes this evening.
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Post by: Fester on January 23, 2011, 06:30:17 pm
Not sure what the problem was (or is?) ... but the helicpter was supported by a van full of police officers and a patrol car too.
The vehicles were going between The Grand and the Happy Valley cafe area... and back.

The seabirds of all kinds were frightened by the helicopter and were swarming around squawking in the sky.

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 23, 2011, 06:41:27 pm
Not sure what the problem was (or is?) ... but the helicpter was supported by a van full of police officers and a patrol car too.
The vehicles were going between The Grand and the Happy Valley cafe area... and back.

The seabirds of all kinds were frightened by the helicopter and were swarming around squawking in the sky.



The helicopter came over me in Penrhyn Bay at around 3.45 pm my pigeons noticed it first and flew off, they can hear lower frequency sound than people!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on January 23, 2011, 08:04:45 pm
i thought i'd used google to see if anybody had reported anything re the helicopter. No matches on the helicopter but this came up near the top of the  first page of the search. Apparently the Great orme is number 3 in the UK hit parade for alien abductions.http://kevinbraddock.com/media/Abducted.pdf (http://kevinbraddock.com/media/Abducted.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2011, 07:56:56 pm
I noticed today that the Whoops shop in St Georges Place was empty - have they closed or just being decorated maybe?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on January 25, 2011, 05:39:44 pm
That big double fronted shop on Madoc Street that was formerly an estate agents (Was it Reeds Rains?) is now the new offices for Cartrefi Conwy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 25, 2011, 05:57:37 pm
That big double fronted shop on Madoc Street that was formerly an estate agents (Was it Reeds Rains?) is now the new offices for Cartrefi Conwy.
It was Reeds Rains (formerly Ball & Boyd for years). Good to see such a large vacant shop occupied.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 25, 2011, 08:10:12 pm
Managed to find time to pop into Llandudno Library for a nose today. Have to say it is looking very smart, a credit to the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 27, 2011, 09:32:41 pm
 :(  Walking the dog again tonight through town and there is NOTHING to do,no reason for anyone to come into the town center.Okay,drink,eat and bet,i think the libary was open but that was it.I noticed Oscar praiseing Parc llandudno ,that's fine at least you can go for a coffee but the town center dead.I know we cannot force a cinema into town and it would not b e viable with the Junction being there so i have no idea how Llandudno town center can ever attract people back after six without drink being involved. ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 27, 2011, 09:44:04 pm
January and February are pretty dismal months in Llandudno Wrex...

But....today, I have had a couple of pints,  stuffed my face,  and won a few bob in the bookies..... beats walking the dog if you ask me!   L0L L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on January 27, 2011, 09:46:59 pm
It was the same in Rhyl last Thursday very quiet, few people about, no events at all. Managed to find a cafe open  at 6pm rather than a pub - it closed at 6.30, but I did find out that they now have a street market there every Thursday and Saturday and the cafe had been quite busy during the day (on the street where Wilkinsons is)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 27, 2011, 09:50:31 pm
January and February are pretty dismal months in Llandudno Wrex...
I like being able to walk across Mostyn Street at this time of year almost without having to look if there's any cars coming because its so quiet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 27, 2011, 09:54:07 pm
Hey Dave-- watch out for cyclists--one sailed out very quietly in front of my car this morning--completely oblivious of anything. Pity I had a large tray of eggs on the front seat. Omelettes anyone? _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 27, 2011, 10:36:30 pm
we were in Mostyn Street this afternoon and I thought how quiet it was, also saw several empty shops and had a quick look at the fishy foot nibbling shop, I wasn't surprised to see no customers, I can't see it lasting long somehow.  Then we looked in WH Smiths at the magazines, I've not bought one for ages but was shocked to see the average price is around £4 :o So many similar magazines covering the same subjects, I can't see them all lasting this recession  ¢¢##                                                                 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 27, 2011, 10:44:53 pm
Recession Merddin?  We've had that.... it came after the Credit Crunch.... and the banks bale out.

Now we are sliding into something much worse..... Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 27, 2011, 10:50:31 pm
well yes, as you know I have another phrase that covers those fancy names, 'we're in the s*** '  ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 28, 2011, 01:32:35 pm
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 28, 2011, 02:08:50 pm
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exactly !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 03, 2011, 10:49:17 pm
A little riddle. (with feeling) When is a roadside Grit Bin dangerous? Answer. When the council can't be bothered to fill it or remove it, the wind gets up and it keeps blowing into the middle of oncoming traffic. Pathetic!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2011, 12:33:00 am
Its WILD in the old town tonight...

Mrs Fester and I left The Cross Keys and The Asia at around 11.30. and I took the following 2 pictures.
They are from my phone, and the weather was atrocious.
1st Picture shows the tall hexagonal wooden advertisement hoarding on the Prom ripped from its base, and rolling around.
You can clearly see the base it has become detached from...

2nd picture is the lit signage from the Cumberland Hotel totally destroyed tonight.

I apologise for the quality...

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 04, 2011, 12:46:20 am
Its WILD in the old town tonight...

1st Picture shows the tall hexagonal wooden advertisement hoarding on the Prom ripped from its base, and rolling around.
You can clearly see the base it has become detached from...

It's quite normal for that sign to be blown over Fester. In any sort of a blow you'll find it rolling around the prom. Its happened at least 3 times before just in the time I've lived on North Parade. I hope the Council has the budget to get it repaired, otherwise we'll never know what’s on at Venue Cymru
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2011, 12:51:35 am
Well it needs totally replacing, as the wood is rotten though and through.
It was breaking apart in my hand.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on February 04, 2011, 11:43:49 am
Its WILD in the old town tonight...

1st Picture shows the tall hexagonal wooden advertisement hoarding on the Prom ripped from its base, and rolling around.
You can clearly see the base it has become detached from...

It's quite normal for that sign to be blown over Fester. In any sort of a blow you'll find it rolling around the prom. Its happened at least 3 times before just in the time I've lived on North Parade. I hope the Council has the budget to get it repaired, otherwise we'll never know what’s on at Venue Cymru

Not sure that the council is responsible for that morris column.  The only advertisers on it are those that have attractions on the Great Orme (ie Copper Mine, Tramway and Summit Complex).  No other attractions are allowed to put posters on this one.  It is probably their responsibility to fix it and not the councils.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 12:15:27 pm
I think you might be right, Jack. The other ones around town have received some maintenance lately.

I notice that the potakabin toilets down at the coach park have finally been removed. Will anything replace them?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 01:06:28 pm
I'm hearing that parts of the Prom are closed at the moment due to dangerous scaffolding. The scaffolding around Wetherspoons was taking a real pounding last night, as well, don't think I would stand too close to it today!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 04, 2011, 01:39:44 pm
For once I agree with the weather-man. This is an A minus storm
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 05:07:09 pm
Prom closed outside the Merrion hotel:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 05:08:46 pm
The remains of the Morris Column get carted off:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2011, 05:11:38 pm
It was very peaceful round by the Pier, the wind disappeared completely and the sea was pretty flat:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 05, 2011, 01:11:26 pm
Last night at about 10.30pm two fall pipes on the Arvon Avenue side of the Clarence were detatched at the top and were swaying and banging against the broken vent from the kitchens. Hope no-one was walking under there when they finally flew down. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 05, 2011, 01:49:18 pm
Another level three flash warning (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/wl_forecast_warnings.html) for today and tonight from the met office. Beginning to wonder if I prefer snow :-))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on February 05, 2011, 04:43:05 pm
Plenty of water up the Conwy Valley around Llanrwst and Treffriw. Surprisingly Nant Conwy were playing a home game - could be on an island by the time they finish!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 05, 2011, 04:56:33 pm
Last night at about 10.30pm two fall pipes on the Arvon Avenue side of the Clarence were detatched at the top and were swaying and banging against the broken vent from the kitchens. Hope no-one was walking under there when they finally flew down. :o
I thought I heard them clanking in the wind when I went past the other day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 05, 2011, 06:05:19 pm
Have you heard the cross which is hanging down the side of Christ Church on a windy night? Now that is seriously wierd :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 06, 2011, 08:32:15 am
We may not have suffered the extreme gusts of places like Scotland, but we're definitely getting knocked about, and yesterday Snowdonia had a whopping 108mm of water dumped on it. Because we're not London, of course, it didn't even feature as an 'and finally' item on the national news.

 High tide at 1230 today is also the highest of the month, so those wanting some decent pics of the Conwy valley flooding should try to make their way to Llanrwst for about 1100.  I'm guessing that the valley itself will be flooded but whether it will have overcome the recent flood drainage work to seep up into the town itself is unclear. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 09:22:50 am
I'd come up and have a look but could well end up spending more time in Llanrwst than anticipated if both roads down the valley get closed....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 06, 2011, 09:27:52 am
I'll be interested to see if either of the two roads have closed when we go down later this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 11:10:29 am
The gales are crazy in town this morning, the simon baker shoe shop sign came crashing down whilst I was walking past.

I'm at West Shore now, you can barely stand up and the tide is massive. Could be flooding later if tide isnt in till half twelve.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 06, 2011, 11:32:51 am
Just come off the Orme via West Shore-- quite breezy !!Managed to walk the pup, but had to all hang on to each other.
Also saw Simon Baker's sign, lucky it didn't hit someone.
Pipes at the Clarence at an even more perilous angle.Police and local councillor are aware, imagine something will be done as and when someone's car is damaged or worse.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 06, 2011, 12:23:37 pm
Llanwst is now isolated : A470 is flooded - there's a car up to its roof near Tal y Cafn - and the valley across is also cut off. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 06, 2011, 04:33:24 pm
Had to get out of the house, we were going stir crazy.
This weather is horrendous, so against most sensible advice we went to West Shore, (only minutes behind Dave R it seems,  then to Conwy where it was much more sheltered... then down to the beach where the art-deco house is close to the little Orme.   Could hardly stand there, and we got badly sand blasted.
A few pics from my phone camera.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on February 06, 2011, 04:37:11 pm
Looks like Mrs Fester is having a "bad hair day".  $happy$

I expect there wasn't many on the West Shore cycle path.  :cyclist40:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 04:43:18 pm
You missed me at West Shore by about 5 mins, mate.  ¢¢##

The Headlands Hotel sign has lost its N now:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 04:51:01 pm
The scaffolding around Wetherspoons is getting ever more torn and tattered. Is this work ever going to be finished - it's been going on for a year now and there never seems to be any progress on the front bit?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 06, 2011, 06:22:43 pm
The last update I saw was in the NWWN back in November.
At that stage it said it was a programme of works scheduled to end in April 2011.

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2011, 06:37:14 pm
It's taking so long you'd think Wetherspoons had contracted the job out to CCBC....  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on February 06, 2011, 06:43:47 pm
It's taking so long you'd think Wetherspoons had contracted the job out to CCBC....  :laugh:

I was just thinking along the same lines.  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on February 06, 2011, 09:46:01 pm
Had to get out of the house, we were going stir crazy.
Shouldn't you have been on the pier working?  $smack$

 :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on February 06, 2011, 09:47:07 pm
It's taking so long you'd think Wetherspoons had contracted the job out to CCBC....  :laugh:

I hope it's finished before I arrive  ^*^0
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 06, 2011, 09:56:19 pm
Had to get out of the house, we were going stir crazy.
Shouldn't you have been on the pier working?  $smack$

 :laugh:


Bob, when the Pier is open... I am on there.
However, you will find the Pier closed much more often these days... for various frustrating reasons.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 07, 2011, 08:50:49 am
Just come off the Orme via West Shore-- quite breezy !!Managed to walk the pup, but had to all hang on to each other.
Also saw Simon Baker's sign, lucky it didn't hit someone.
Pipes at the Clarence at an even more perilous angle.Police and local councillor are aware, imagine something will be done as and when someone's car is damaged or worse.

Barriers all round last night--- blown flat this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on February 08, 2011, 06:37:50 pm
Planning Application tomorrow:
Code Ref: 0/37261 - 1. Change of use of Retail Shop to Restaurant and Take-Away 2. External alterations (rear yard flue installation & works to frontage) 3. Use of area under canopy for the siting of table and chairs for dining 135 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno.

I visted the site today and it is on the agenda for tomorrow's Planning Committee.
I was just wondering what local views were of the application to change the use to a Fish & Chips/Pizza Restuarant and Shop.

I have my views, but would be interested in Forum members views before tomorrows meeting, as I know Upper Mostyn St is mentoined quite regularly on the Forum.

Full report can be found here: http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2371&Ver=4 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2371&Ver=4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2011, 06:52:33 pm
The old Merediths Goth Shop. If done properly, and run properly, I don't think there will be a problem.

One question would be...the area under the canopy outside - would those tables/chairs be for the use of Restaurant customers only or for people buying Takeaway Fish & Chips also? I think it would be desirable to make it for Restaurant customers only, myself, so to avoid potential litter problems.

One other things I just thought of...the shop would look a lot better if the canopy had its glazing reinstated - much more in keeping with the other properties.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on February 08, 2011, 07:02:45 pm
mmmm, a street full of eateries  Z**
It doesn't look like Mrs Lyons is happy though
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 08, 2011, 08:04:43 pm
Its time our Councillors faced reality. Upper Mostyn Street is one of the few areas of Llandudno that works. Yes there are a lot of eating and Drinking establishments there but that’s because there is a demand for them. I read through the list of objections on the planning website and if that is all they can come up with I can’t see it being refused. What's better a vibrant restaurant / takeaway business or an empty retail unit?  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on February 08, 2011, 08:43:28 pm
Its time our Councillors faced reality. Upper Mostyn Street is one of the few areas of Llandudno that works. Yes there are a lot of eating and Drinking establishments there but that’s because there is a demand for them. I read through the list of objections on the planning website and if that is all they can come up with I can’t see it being refused. What's better a vibrant restaurant / takeaway business or an empty retail unit?  ZXZ

Thanks for the feedback so far.
I should have said that I am on the Planning Committee, and hence will be voting on the decision tomorrow.

The problem with Planning Applications is that we are usually presented with list of complaints but rarely see letters or views from those who support the applcation. Hence my attempt to get some views.

The site vist today raised some concerns amongst some councillors about the suitability of the building to convert.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barbiroli on February 08, 2011, 09:38:17 pm
Just passed an accident on Conway Road. in the same spot as the other fatal accidents took place. there was an ambulance there but the car did`nt look too bad.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on February 09, 2011, 07:32:13 am
there was an ambulance there but the car did`nt look too bad.
was the ambulance badly damaged?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 09, 2011, 10:27:39 am
I see the idea of making Ball & Boyd into an Indoor Market has been revived again - a Planning application went in 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 09, 2011, 10:46:52 am
It will be a disaster.

Last year I considered getting involved,  this year I've wised up!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on February 09, 2011, 05:39:02 pm
Planning Application tomorrow:
Code Ref: 0/37261 - 1. Change of use of Retail Shop to Restaurant and Take-Away 2. External alterations (rear yard flue installation & works to frontage) 3. Use of area under canopy for the siting of table and chairs for dining 135 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno.

I visted the site today and it is on the agenda for tomorrow's Planning Committee.
I was just wondering what local views were of the application to change the use to a Fish & Chips/Pizza Restuarant and Shop.

I have my views, but would be interested in Forum members views before tomorrows meeting, as I know Upper Mostyn St is mentoined quite regularly on the Forum.

Full report can be found here: http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2371&Ver=4 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2371&Ver=4)


Application Approved
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 09, 2011, 08:34:24 pm
We went for a walk to Angel Bay this afternoon and there must have been about 12 to 15 seals either on shore ,coming ashore or out in the water. The seals in the water included 4 seals who were obviously 2 pairs playing in the really mild sea. Must have been such a relief after the battering of the last few days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2011, 08:54:01 pm
typical, we live very near there and missed seeing them, most times that we visit Angel Bay we see no seals at all
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 11, 2011, 06:41:33 pm
Something going on by the Regency Royal Hotel in Craig Y Don. The Prom is closed and there are several fire engines and other emergency services vehicles there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 11, 2011, 06:45:13 pm
earlier on this afternoon the police helecoptor was circling over Penrhyn Bay and the Little Orme
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 11, 2011, 09:22:44 pm
It was over the top of Upper .Mostyn St and Gloddaeth as well
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on February 12, 2011, 12:46:21 am
I believe it's back at HQ now.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 12, 2011, 10:29:39 pm
The Tudno Castle Hotel is getting worse and worse now, bits falling off it all the time. What a disgrace:

[smg id=1158]
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 12, 2011, 10:40:58 pm
The only way that Eyesore, and The Clarence will be resolved will be demolition......... sadly that is now BOUND to happen.   :( :( :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 13, 2011, 10:26:15 am
Clarence is in the same state, bits dropping off everywhere and huge cracks getting bigger and bigger
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 13, 2011, 02:39:50 pm
The Annual 'Nick Beer' 10k Road Race took place today, with 750 runners taking part. It is now apparently in the Top 5 10km races in the UK:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on February 13, 2011, 02:47:15 pm
he he, look at them all checking their watches
You certainly caught the magic of the moment in that first pic Dave
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 13, 2011, 03:13:12 pm
Cheers, mate. I thought this one featuring the Mayor could be used for one of Oscar's caption competitions....
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Post by: suepp on February 13, 2011, 03:17:57 pm
great pics! can't think of a witty caption  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on February 13, 2011, 03:23:14 pm
Ann Yates about to get a wake-up call

no, nor me suepp, I'm rubbish at captions
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Post by: brumbob on February 13, 2011, 03:24:05 pm
on your marks, get set, Zzzzzzzz
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on February 13, 2011, 04:24:53 pm
Ah, let me think now, how does this thing work??
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 13, 2011, 05:08:36 pm
I can think of better places to break down in an RV.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 13, 2011, 05:17:13 pm
Good thing the Trams aren't running!
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Post by: brumbob on February 13, 2011, 05:56:05 pm
A ringside view TheMedz  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on February 13, 2011, 06:01:15 pm
Has he broken down or can he not cope with driving up the hill?

Quite often see vehicles stuck there because they can't manage the hill start.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 13, 2011, 06:09:04 pm
Paddy I think it's probably the latter. I'm not making any statements of any kind re the merits of male or female drivers here but he was a she, and she persuaded the policeman/recovery vehicle driver to drive the RV up to the top of Llwynon Road for her.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on February 13, 2011, 06:37:29 pm
I'm not making any statements of any kind re the merits of male or female drivers

Then why do I get the distinct impression you were then Matey  $smack$   :roll:

Pool tonight against the 147, c'mon you Matelots.........us Matelots I mean  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 13, 2011, 06:47:32 pm
 ;D Going back to the Mayor;s old hotel the Tudno Castle,if the owners wanted to really do something they would be applying to build a larger store incorperating a Travel lodge and then get the attention of Primark or TK Makk instead of just leaving until part of it falls on to some pedestrians walking past.NO real push to do anything in this town . :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on February 13, 2011, 08:50:56 pm
;D Going back to the Mayor;s old hotel the Tudno Castle,

I'm a little confused here. Are you talking about Cllr Ann Yates having the Tudno Castle? I thought she had a hotel in Hill Terrace previously, and prior to David Owen having the Tudno Castle was it not in the ownership of the Devoys for some years?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 14, 2011, 09:31:12 am
Cheers, mate. I thought this one featuring the Mayor could be used for one of Oscar's caption competitions....

Does it really make that 'orrible noise?

Nice to see you again Dave.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on February 14, 2011, 12:07:03 pm
I was upset yesterday on my weekly walk to the west shore to see that yet another house has been knocked down ready for a nasty, badly designed block of flats to be built.  What ever happened to vernacular architecture?  This town is riddled with god awful new buildings.  Any one know anyone in the planning department?  On the one hand you've got self-appointed Mr Llandudno, Lawson Rea wanting to protect all things Victorian (ugh) and these horrible things.  I think the Tudno Castle should bbe knocked down a nd a cinema built. :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on February 14, 2011, 05:38:24 pm
Cheers, mate. I thought this one featuring the Mayor could be used for one of Oscar's caption competitions....

Aah Toto I've clicked my heels three times, why am I still here?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2011, 06:34:14 pm
It's a shame to see that around 20 of the Palm trees on the Prom have succumbed to the recent bad weather and died. I doubt they will be replaced...no money etc etc.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 15, 2011, 10:47:57 pm
They have gone to that great Sea of Mediocrity Dave, closely to be followed by the rest of Llandudno.  aaa.gif
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2011, 02:14:33 pm
;D Going back to the Mayor;s old hotel the Tudno Castle,

I'm a little confused here. Are you talking about Cllr Ann Yates having the Tudno Castle? I thought she had a hotel in Hill Terrace previously, and prior to David Owen having the Tudno Castle was it not in the ownership of the Devoys for some years?
It says in the Pioneer she owned the Tudno Castle from 1997 - 2001.

Funnily, her quote on the subject is 'it's about time the authorities did something about it'. An inadvertent admission that the Town Council she is Mayor of is completely powerless and no more than a talking shop!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on February 16, 2011, 07:21:58 pm
So the Pioneer 'boobed' did they?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2011, 09:55:15 pm
Myself, accompanied by Mr & Mrs Fester, attempted to represent the Forum at the Kings Head quiz tonight but failed due to the fact the place was packed out. However, I did have the pleasure of saying hello to Blongb!  :)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 17, 2011, 12:21:55 am
In hindsight, it was probably for the best..... last week after 5 hours boozing we were very stupid indeed,

This week, we had only 4 hours of boozing prior to entering the King's Head, so we would most likely have been moderately stupid.


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Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2011, 08:59:57 am
Wow !-- wonder if you would win if you'd only had 1/2 hour ? _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2011, 09:55:04 am
Llandudno brass band to record album at Abbey Road studio
by David Powell, DPW West
Feb 17 2011


A BRASS band will record in The Beatles’ famous Abbey Road studios... with a little help from their friends.

Llandudno Town Band will work in the London studio where the Fab Four’s legendary albums such as Revolver and Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band were recorded.

It is thanks to Llandudno-based record producer Gordon Lorenz who will help the 100-year-old band make their own album in May.

They may even recreate the famous Abbey Road photograph if the 30 band members can fit on the zebra crossing.

Mr Lorenz, who has worked there before and chose to use that venue for this project, said: “We will be making an album with Llandudno Town Band accompanying three or four local North Wales artists.

“They are going to be doing a whole range of songs from pop to Italian arias. They will be augmented with keyboards, bass and drums.

“I am hoping to get Graham Goulding from 10cc to play drums.”

Mr Lorenz added: “It was (musical director) Clive Wolfendale’s idea to make an album incorporating vocals of local singers (yet to be named) with a brass band.

“The idea was previously successful in 1973 with Peter Skellern. I have managed to get us into Abbey Road studios where I have worked many times before.

“We will be in the main No. 2 studio at Abbey Road where the Beatles recorded many of their songs.

“We will be walking into a piece of history. The studio has some original features from 1964. Its digital control room has been completely revamped but you know the screens (partitions) were the screens around John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr. And you are aware of the feet that have trodden that floor.”

Last year, Mr Lorenz worked at Abbey Road studios with actress and Gurkas’ rights campaigner Joanna Lumley.

He said: “We recorded a spoken word album of soldiers’ poems.”

The idea for the untitled new album came from Llandudno Town Band musical director Clive Wolfendale.

Mr Wolfendale said: “We will be trying to reflect the music of the last 50 years with pop music and some ballads.

“I grew up with the Beatles – they were fantastic. Their tunefulness and arrangements still sound amazing today. One song we will be covering is With A Little Help From My Friends.”

He added: “We will be using local talent which we have put together. It will just be incredible to record there. It’s such a historic venue. The band are very excited about the prospect of doing it and making sure that the good name of the band is brought even further afield.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/02/17/llandudno-brass-band-to-record-album-at-abbey-road-studio-55578-28185172/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/02/17/llandudno-brass-band-to-record-album-at-abbey-road-studio-55578-28185172/)
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Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2011, 10:33:48 am
Cold and mysterious!
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Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2011, 10:52:34 am
Is this where local people fear to tread...?
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Post by: Nemesis on February 17, 2011, 09:19:30 pm
Yes--exactly !
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Post by: Trojan on February 18, 2011, 12:43:27 am
Yes--exactly !

Were you using a zoom lens then?  8)
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Post by: Nemesis on February 18, 2011, 11:08:45 am
No--wish something would manifest there. It fascinates me !
No evil vibes--- not like Elephant's cave, that gives me the heebie-- jeebies
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 18, 2011, 05:01:51 pm
I noticed that Matelots club is open for business again.... I think Pendragon might be interested to know?

Having said that, I don't think there is much gets past her...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 20, 2011, 04:26:54 pm
 :)Just googled Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza to see what comes up and it is quite amazing to see a steam train coming in on the Saturday from the West Midlands,on the Monday a diesl hauled special from Sheffield,coaches from as far as kettering,Goole, all advertising they are coming into Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza,love it or loathe it there is one thing it does and that is keeping our town in the tourist spotlight ,which of course is the only reason our town was built. 8)
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Post by: brumbob on February 20, 2011, 04:54:37 pm
http://www.shakespeareexpress.com/tours/tr_2011_0430.htm (http://www.shakespeareexpress.com/tours/tr_2011_0430.htm)

don't forget the ghost train is also coming  :laugh:

shame the extravaganza is on that weekend, wouldn't mind the train trip  :P

Pulled by these two steam engines and what a lot of pollution they make,
quite reasonably priced compared to the ugly diesel from Sheffield and only 5 minutes up the road from me.

Didcot double headed steam 5043,4965 depart. Great Western Incursion. Feb 10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ1iCoH3pIU#)
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Post by: Hugo on February 20, 2011, 05:43:29 pm
There was more gunge coming out of those engines than from the power station in the background.   I can still remember those steam trains going past Maesdu Golf Club and setting fire to the embankments and gorse bushes.
Nostalgia aint what it used to be!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 20, 2011, 07:41:52 pm
Found out the Alliance Chemist (Formally Moss Chemist) on the corner of Gloddeath St. and Upper Mostyn Street is to close for good in mid April. It appears that now Boots have bought up all the little Chemists, they have too many outlets and don’t need it any more. I wonder what sort of restaurant that will turn into.     Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 21, 2011, 11:07:53 am
Yes, was told that in confidence by an employee a week or two ago. Trouble is what are all the older folk at this end of town going to do for their medical supplies?
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Post by: Llechwedd on February 21, 2011, 12:10:13 pm
Well like food shopping we have to go to the other end of town and it's always when it's raining and blowing a gale grrr. :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on February 21, 2011, 05:02:30 pm
I noticed that Matelots club is open for business again.... I think Pendragon might be interested to know?

Having said that, I don't think there is much gets past her...
Yeah the guy who owns the place is opening himself for the three days over the weekend.  Friday - Sunday.  He may have a local fella interested in the lease.  I hope he does well. 
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 22, 2011, 03:24:35 pm
I do think that the crocus display looks great on the way in from Penrhyn Bay D)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Feb%202011/DSCF1531.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/Feb%202011/DSCF1530.jpg)
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Post by: Jack on February 22, 2011, 04:23:57 pm
Couldn't agree more about the Crocus displays, they look fantastic and nice to think that Spring is finally here!  For all the complaints that we all make from time to time about CCBC, this they should be congratulated on! :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 22, 2011, 05:00:56 pm
Just spotted the first baby goats (kids?) of the year on the Orme just above Black Gate.
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Post by: brumbob on February 22, 2011, 05:47:39 pm
Trouble is what are all the older folk at this end of town going to do for their medical supplies?
Can't they use Superdrug, that has a pharmacy.
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Post by: wrex on February 22, 2011, 06:05:04 pm
 :P Who the goats. :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on February 22, 2011, 07:14:13 pm
I was walking past Llwynon Terrrace yesterday and heard this loud clacking noise, There were about 6 goats in the garden of the house called Bodnant having a bit of a butting competition, taking it in turns to rear up and bash their horns against another male. Interesting to watch.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on February 22, 2011, 07:27:10 pm
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere Dave  :twoface:
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Post by: Trojan on February 23, 2011, 03:41:34 am
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere Dave  :twoface:

This is serious BB.  8)

It's the start of the mating season and the males are vying for breeding rights  - the more dominant males have the pick of the heard.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 23, 2011, 09:48:44 am
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere Dave  :twoface:

This is serious BB.  8)

It's the start of the mating season and the males are vying for breeding rights  - the more dominant males have the pick of the heard.

Its a bit like being in The Washington on a Friday night then?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 23, 2011, 11:06:53 am
Trouble is what are all the older folk at this end of town going to do for their medical supplies?
Can't they use Superdrug, that has a pharmacy.

Many times it isn't operational, even when the store is open. Like Llechwedd says, it is an upward battle against the wind and rain and if the place isn't open that means two visits.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 26, 2011, 11:50:43 am
An explosion of interest in the tour of the Grand Theatre photos I have on Flickr yesterday, with over 4,500 views of the photos in one day. Wonder why?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157623521219490/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157623521219490/)
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Post by: Yorkie on February 26, 2011, 12:00:53 pm
4,500 people got lost?     _))*
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Post by: Pendragon on February 26, 2011, 12:20:01 pm
Meeting my Dad at the Snowdon today to watch the Rugby.  I do hope Wales win.  I love meeting up with my Dad he's a mine of information on local sites of interest.  He goes away for two weeks on Tuesday, when he gets back I'm going to go through all the old books and pamphlets he has and pick his brains on local history.  Which I will in turn post on here. 
Y'know its incredible the difference Socs made while she was here.  I never thought I'd be interested in walking again and I have a renewed passion for all things local.  I'm pinching that dog she's ace.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 26, 2011, 03:15:42 pm
Just been chatting to Fester and his Mrs on the pier. Think she would have taken my Frizzy home!
 In my book, dogs are better than most people-- they don't tell lies--ask any dog owner ! ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on February 26, 2011, 04:50:11 pm
Well I know that when I used to say to my dog, "Who did that?" if she had been "naughty", I'm sure she shook her head as if to say, "No!"   She was a lovely brindle Boxer and I loved her to bits, so it was virtually impossible to chastise her.       ;D
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Post by: Fester on February 26, 2011, 08:56:48 pm
Just been chatting to Fester and his Mrs on the pier. Think she would have taken my Frizzy home!
 In my book, dogs are better than most people-- they don't tell lies--ask any dog owner ! ;)

Frizzy is like a living teddy bear....  a very lively bundle of fun.
Please don't make me start liking dogs !!!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on February 27, 2011, 07:15:10 pm
2 Llandudno related amateur weather sites ny the same person

http://www.llandudno.eu.pn/ (http://www.llandudno.eu.pn/)

http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/ (http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/)


 *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 27, 2011, 11:30:14 pm
Very good !!!
I prefer that forecast for this week, to the one offered by BBC Wales....
Can I pick and choose the weather I want?

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Post by: brumbob on February 28, 2011, 01:52:28 am
It was snowing in Buxton where I was today. :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on February 28, 2011, 07:43:19 am
Isn't there something about, "The Sun shines on the righteous!"?    Maybe you been a bad boy!     _))*
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Post by: Ian on February 28, 2011, 08:32:46 am
Thanks, Dwsi;  I've added the second link to our 'Useful Links' (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=325.msg9853#msg9853) page.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 01, 2011, 10:45:59 pm
It's been a stunning day today in Llandudno, it doesn't get much better than this in early March

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/AustinRover/March%202011/DSCF1708.jpg)
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Post by: Fester on March 01, 2011, 10:58:41 pm
That belongs in a frame !
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 01, 2011, 11:07:54 pm
Thanks, I never seem to print any pics and there are many waiting to go on to my Flickr site!
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Post by: Trojan on March 02, 2011, 01:23:46 am
The sea looks like a mill pond.  :)
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Post by: suepp on March 02, 2011, 11:16:13 am
Lovely photo, the sea looked so calm and flat, I had to stop the car at West Shore last night as I was passing to watch the glorious sunset
http://
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 02, 2011, 11:52:22 am
Lovely photo, the sea looked so calm and flat, I had to stop the car at West Shore last night as I was passing to watch the glorious sunset
http://

 $cool$ lovely sunset!
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Post by: dwsi on March 02, 2011, 06:16:02 pm
Excellent site about the history of Llandudno, which has a lot of old photos and a map of all the old pubs in town.

http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/)
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Post by: DaveR on March 02, 2011, 09:41:24 pm
Cat in the Fat Cat:
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Post by: Fester on March 02, 2011, 10:48:13 pm
Excellent site about the history of Llandudno, which has a lot of old photos and a map of all the old pubs in town.

http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/)

Mmm, I like that.... bookmarked it to read it all later.
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Post by: DaveR on March 02, 2011, 10:52:29 pm
Excellent site about the history of Llandudno, which has a lot of old photos and a map of all the old pubs in town.

http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/)
A lot of old photos....that have been nicked off this website's gallery. :rage:
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Post by: Fester on March 02, 2011, 10:55:13 pm
Thought I recognised some of them...... where theres blame theres a claim!   L0L
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Post by: Trojan on March 03, 2011, 12:35:11 am
Excellent site about the history of Llandudno, which has a lot of old photos and a map of all the old pubs in town.

http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/ (http://www.oldllandudno.co.uk/)
A lot of old photos....that have been nicked off this website's gallery. :rage:

Yes, isn't it Three Towns Forum member PKevin's site?  ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 03, 2011, 08:54:28 am
That site has been there for ages.

Craig Ollerton also produced a disc of postcards of Llandudno, some of which were scanned from cards that I had given him.   I have a copy of the disc, so access to these old pictures is not restricted by any means.
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Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2011, 08:58:45 am
That site has been there for ages.

Craig Ollerton also produced a disc of postcards of Llandudno, some of which were scanned from cards that I had given him.   I have a copy of the disc, so access to these old pictures is not restricted by any means.
Most of the photos are taken from the Gallery here, Yorkie. I know that because specific images that I have resized, cropped, enhanced etc (and hence are unique to this Gallery) are reproduced on this other website, not to mention the odd more recent photo that I have personally taken.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 03, 2011, 09:12:17 am
Not denying there could be some poaching as impossible for me to check all I have against them.  Give him the same punishment as Colonel Gadafi would - chop his hand off.    >>>

You can use a copyright claim against the ISP, that would sort it.
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Post by: suepp on March 03, 2011, 09:14:10 am
there are some on there that have come from my collection of family photos ! I supose that's what happens when they are posted on public forums,
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Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2011, 09:14:47 am
Well, the guy is a fan of Llandudno and has obviously put a lot of work into setting up the site, so my only wish really is that he would acknowledge the source of the pics.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 03, 2011, 09:16:14 am
I've been to it many times when trying to find answers to the Forum's Guessing games!!   Not with much success however!     _))*
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Post by: wrex on March 03, 2011, 04:45:38 pm
 ¢¢## Im not sure where the town turns from here with Hooson;s chemist closing,J D Sports moving on to Parc Llandudno and now Alworths closing down that end of town is going to look horrendous,its no surpriser to me the town council are;nt bothered about xmas lights,there will be no shops left to benifit from them. :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2011, 05:06:16 pm
I was just talking to Darren in Fountains and he said that Alworths was closing down. Thats a real shame. It could maybe do withbeing subdivided into smaller shops or a shopping arcade.
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Post by: brumbob on March 03, 2011, 05:33:53 pm
It could maybe do withbeing subdivided into smaller shops or a shopping arcade.
Then fester could have one  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pkevin on March 03, 2011, 07:50:31 pm
HI all,

Yes I do run oldllandudno, but I run it for the community to enjoy.

I started it because i got P*****f with other sites slaping thier copyright/water marks all over the images and pictures, and then having the cheek to selling them to us .

If I have a picture that you own the copyright to, just let me know and i will remove it.  If you want it to stay and want me to put your name on it , just let me know
and I will do it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 04, 2011, 12:58:28 am
I started it because i got P*****f with other sites slaping thier copyright/water marks all over the images and pictures, and then having the cheek to selling them to us .

Fair play Kev.

That DaveR has a lot to answer for.  >:(






 8)
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Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 08:16:31 am
Would make a nice house. I would keep the Town Councillors on to provide the hot air for the heating system.  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 04, 2011, 08:18:15 am
 :-* I will offer one hundred thousand and then kick the lodgers out. ZXZ
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Post by: Ian on March 04, 2011, 08:48:52 am
Quote
I was just talking to Darren in Fountains and he said that Alworths was closing down. Thats a real shame

We were walking round it the other day, and I was wondering how much longer it would survive. Lacking the bulk-buying power of Woolies, and the ability to have branded goods with their name and logo superimposed does leave them vulnerable. It was a good effort to preserve what many have fond memories of, but I'm not surprised they're closing. 
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Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 09:02:57 am
Looking at the Alworths page for Llandudno:
http://www.alworths.com/llandudno.html (http://www.alworths.com/llandudno.html)

Judging by the bottom photo, there seems to be a bad case of subsidence in the store!  :laugh:

Shame it didnt even last a year:

News Release
22.07.2010

alworths to open its first Welsh store

IT WAS confirmed today that the variety retailer alworths will be launching its first Welsh store next month.

The first store will open in the former Woolworths premises in Llandudno on 13th August, creating 12 jobs for the town, with plans to open a further five stores across North and South Wales.

Alworths is a general retailer stocking a mix of branded toys, sweets, homeware, stationery, entertainment products, seasonal goods and garden items. The new stores will offer a large selection of pic ‘n’ mix along with party accessories, cards and wrap. In addition alworths will stock haberdashery and household convenience purchases and there will be a range of branded goods at competitive prices which will run on weekly promotions.

Llandudno will be the 11th store in the chain. Other stores can be found in Didcot, Amersham, Evesham, Warminster, Wokingham, Cosham, and New Milton. Two further stores opened in Scotland (Cupar and Forfar) last month closely followed by Alloa which opened on 21st July. The first store in Didcot opened on 5th November, 2009.

Alworths Ltd has been created by Andy Latham, ex-Head of Store and Concessions Development at Woolworths, along with a team of 15, nine of whom are former-Woolworths colleagues working alongside him at alworths’ Head Office in Redhill, Surrey.

Andy Latham, Managing Director of alworths says: “We’re delighted to be launching alworths in Wales and we hope the store in Llandudno will be well received by the local community. We’re looking forward to opening a further five stores across Wales, as we strongly believe that there is still a desire for traditional high street shopping.

Alworths is predominately aimed at families and our customers love the fact that they can just ‘pop in’ and pick up a few home essentials, CDs and pic ‘n’ mix in one shop instead of having to drive to out-of-town shopping locations. As this is our first seaside store, we will also be selling holiday essentials and beach toys too.”
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Post by: Nemesis on March 04, 2011, 09:04:34 am
OOps ))*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 04, 2011, 09:10:54 am
We looked round Alworths when it first opened and we thought it was all too expensive  :o
we hoped it would do well but I could not see how with those prices   :o
We stocked up on things like xmas cards when the old Woolworths stores closed down, we have xmas cards that will last for decades!  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 11:25:08 am
Speculation in Retail Week that the entire Alworths chain is headed for bankruptcy, as the Founder of the company resigns.
http://www.toynews-online.biz/news/33591/Future-uncertain-for-Alworths (http://www.toynews-online.biz/news/33591/Future-uncertain-for-Alworths)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 04, 2011, 12:23:13 pm
If Woolworths couldn't survive the High street any clone of it will also go.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 04, 2011, 05:05:09 pm
The former Diskos store on Mostyn Street has been sold
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 04, 2011, 08:01:26 pm
If Woolworths couldn't survive the High street any clone of it will also go.

That hits the nail on the head... Woolworths (with its good name) failed,  so what chance did a shop offering EXACTLY the same mish-mash range have of being successful.

Hmm, I wonder what Diskos is going to be?  Its been closed for a long time, and it will have to be a good venture to cover the high rental demanded there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2011, 11:25:51 am
The final days of Alworths:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 05, 2011, 11:11:30 pm
I popped in with the Misses to see if there were any bargains worth having and came out after ½ an hour with a washing basket which cost £2.80p. So I can't see them making a come back on the strength of that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2011, 07:30:50 pm
The Old Abbey at West Shore intrigues me...I've been past it many times and it always looks closed up and empty but I've seen the odd person wandering around in the past (possibly security or maintenance). Was it not supposed to be a Jewish Mother/Baby home?
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Post by: brumbob on March 06, 2011, 07:46:10 pm
Owned by 'A W Charitable Trust'
Aims & Objectives:
General charitable purposes at the discretion of the trustees with emphasis on the furthering of Jewish education and religion in the UK and abroad.
Some more piccies here
http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=19652073 (http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=19652073)
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Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2011, 08:02:01 pm
Owned by 'A W Charitable Trust'
Aims & Objectives:
General charitable purposes at the discretion of the trustees with emphasis on the furthering of Jewish education and religion in the UK and abroad.
Some more piccies here
http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=19652073 (http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=19652073)
Here they are:
http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/SHOWCHARITY/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=283322&SubsidiaryNumber=0 (http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/SHOWCHARITY/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=283322&SubsidiaryNumber=0)

They don't seem to be doing too bad:
"The Charity's property investment portfolio is worth £97,761,659. After mortgages etc. totalling £51,767,755 the net worth of the properties is in excess of £45million."

The Old Abbey is described as a 'Beis Chana, Mother and Baby Home'. I believe the correct spelling is actually 'Bais Chana'.

"The properties include a building which is used as a "Mother & Baby" convalescent home, the cost of
which is £3,036,604."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2011, 03:08:56 pm
Alworths store has been seized by their Landlord for non payment of rent and the locks have been changed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 07, 2011, 03:41:39 pm
Alworths heading for change of ownership

Alworths is reportedly undergoing a restructuring less than 18 months after opening its first shop.
Founded by Andy Latham, a former senior manager at Woolworths, Alworths was among a number of ventures launched after the chain collapsed into administration in 2008.
Documents filed at Companies House show that Mr Latham last week resigned as director, while the company’s registered office address had been changed to “care of” a solicitor in Redhill, the Surrey town where Alworths is headquartered.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2011, 06:00:46 pm
Alworths store has been seized by their Landlord for non payment of rent and the locks have been changed.

The Eviction Notice. All of the stock, fittings etc are still inside but Alworths cannot get to them - must be a few quids worth there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on March 08, 2011, 12:14:43 pm
There's a bailifs letter on the door of the now closed barbers in Brookes Street too - shame.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on March 08, 2011, 01:47:33 pm
Going back a day or two to the closure of Wellworths, several members expressed the opinion that if Woolworths could'nt make a go of it, then no similar store has any chance. I agree in Llandudno high street. But with one proviso. If a large company selling in a particular fashion fails, it does'ent necessarily mean that a new firm could not succeed in a particular site doing the same thing because the big national company would have had good stores, middling stores and poor stores, and if it had too many poor stores, then end of story. But someone taking one of the closed good sites could do well. Mike  P.S. I was very touched that one of the forum members, who shall remain anonimous to save his blushes, wrote to me whilst I was away on holiday to see if I was O.K.  Thats more than half my own family bothered to do.
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Post by: DaveR on March 08, 2011, 01:49:03 pm
Good to have you back, Mike!  $walesflag$
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Post by: Michael on March 08, 2011, 02:04:35 pm
Thanks Dave. In a way its nice to be back. But then the sun is shining. Dont know if I'll be so keen when the wind and rain return. Mike
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Post by: Ian on March 08, 2011, 02:08:16 pm
Welcome back, Michael :-))
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Post by: Bellringer on March 08, 2011, 03:08:17 pm
Welcome back, Mike

Hear, Hear.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 08, 2011, 03:27:13 pm
Nice to know that you are back Mike. :)
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Post by: Trojan on March 09, 2011, 12:47:34 am
Welcome back Mike.

Curry for tea this evening?  $dins$
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Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2011, 09:29:08 pm
Alworths has now reopened, after 'discussions' with their landlords, to carry on with their closing down sale!
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Post by: Trojan on March 10, 2011, 03:02:34 am
Alworths has now reopened, after 'discussions' with their landlords, to carry on with their closing down sale!

 $lol$
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Post by: Ian on March 11, 2011, 10:08:11 am
I've moved the posts that drifted significantly off topic into the Coffee Centre.
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Post by: Richard on March 11, 2011, 11:32:43 am

I am very pleased to see that continued local concern discussed earlier in this forum has been taken seriously by local councillors Jason Wyman and Mike Priestley who gives an update here on his blog http://mikepriestley.blogspot.com/2011/03/quick-updatedog-fouling.html (http://mikepriestley.blogspot.com/2011/03/quick-updatedog-fouling.html)

Even JFS gives it a mention in her 'non-too-informative' blog.

Alos, there has been much press coverage of local legislation on dogs. The facts are that many, perhaps the greater majority, of dog owners (and I speak as a dog owner myself for the last 20 years) cannot be trusted to clean up the dog mess that thier animals leave behind and the result has to be education and if nesseccary, enforced legislation. 

Dog fouling is one of the most off-putting issues for the area for both locals and visitors alike.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2011, 11:50:09 am
Good news, it seems to me if dogs are off a lead then some owners will not see what the dogs are doing, if the owners are talking to other people then they cannot see what is happening with their dogs. Dog owners have undertaken a 24 / 7 responsibility to look after every aspect of the dog including cleaning up after them.
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Post by: Michael on March 11, 2011, 05:41:36 pm
You are correct about this dog mess problem being off putting. Last summer I spent the first fifteen minutes every day cleaning it up.  But whilst Ive been in India I have given it some thought. Yes---thats right---what a way to spend a holiday!!! But I could'nt help it. As you probably know, in India animals and humans mix together all the time, there are stray dogs everywhere, cattle mix around the markets and come into the entrance of cafes and bars, goats are mingling amongst the traffic. But the dogs. Whilst they are young, male, fit they have a whale of a time, playing around, sleeping in the sun, chasing after each other. And getting food to eat. Most of the ones are saw are far from starving. (If they are old, ill, injured or a bitch---then thats a different matter).  But after a few weeks I noticed, I was amongst them every day and night, and I never once saw any sign of mess from them. Nor did I ever once see one making a mess. Not like here where you see it everyday.
  I thought about this. One thing, of course, is away from the village roads there are plenty of open spaces. But I also thought, is it anything to do with their diet? The indian dogs dont eat canned dog food. No doubt they would if they could get it, but they cannot get it.  If they are fed at all by humans, they get our food. Mainly rice (and curry)  otherwise they just scavange.  Has this got anything to do with it?  Im posting this in the Whats Llandudno like subject because its carrying on from previous posts
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Post by: brumbob on March 11, 2011, 05:51:35 pm
If they are fed at all by humans, they get our food. Mainly rice (and curry)
Doesn't that make you go  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2011, 06:06:18 pm
If they are fed at all by humans, they get our food. Mainly rice (and curry)
Doesn't that make you go  :laugh:

not me as I've never eaten it and never will, can't stand the smell of it!  I bet these posts get moved  L0L
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Post by: brumbob on March 11, 2011, 07:17:04 pm
not me as I've never eaten it and never will, can't stand the smell of it!  I bet these posts get moved  L0L
and I thought it was just me who couldn't stand Indian curry, though I love Chinese curry.  D)
I bet these posts get moved  L0L
I think Ian secretly likes the authority  _))*
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Post by: Ian on March 11, 2011, 07:43:10 pm
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If they are fed at all by humans, they get our food. Mainly rice (and curry)  otherwise they just scavange.  Has this got anything to do with it?

Interesting.

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I think Ian secretly likes the authority

Don't have to like it, BB;  I've got the power!   WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2011, 09:23:57 pm
 $3towns$ Y^^Y  :D
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Post by: Hugo on March 11, 2011, 09:31:20 pm
You are correct about this dog mess problem being off putting. Last summer I spent the first fifteen minutes every day cleaning it up.  But whilst Ive been in India I have given it some thought.

You just wait until you get back on the Golf Course Mike there'll be be 6 months of Goat & Sheep's poo waiting for you and that'll take you more than 15 minutes to clear!
Glad to hear that you made it to Goa and enjoyed your holiday there.
 :golf:
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Post by: Richard on March 12, 2011, 03:11:26 pm
There seems to be proliferation of drivers on their mobile phones whilst driving, recently I have seen a woman at the wheel of a vehicle emblazoned ‘Victim Support’ on her mobile, an AA van driver on his mobile, countless others, then lo and behold, today at 11.55 on the island at the Junction, I nearly got speared by a silver Range Rover plastered with ‘The Mulberry’ all over it, and guess what, the driver was on his mobile.

Of course it’s not dangerous, and these people are so important that the law does not apply to them, plus the fact that they are too poor to afford a hands free unit.
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Post by: brumbob on March 12, 2011, 03:19:57 pm
They must belong to the 1 in 40 club that show no signs of impairment whatsoever
http://www.itpro.co.uk/621955/supertaskers-can-safely-use-mobiles-while-driving (http://www.itpro.co.uk/621955/supertaskers-can-safely-use-mobiles-while-driving)
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Post by: Yorkie on March 12, 2011, 04:26:50 pm
There seems to be proliferation of drivers on their mobile phones whilst driving, etc etc etc   Of course it’s not dangerous, and these people are so important that the law does not apply to them, plus the fact that they are too poor to afford a hands free unit.

I suggest you get yourself a real old banger from Arch Motors with a week or two's MOT, and next time you see one of those arseholes with a mobile phone run into them and then swear blind it was their fault for being on the mobile phone!  Also complain of whiplash and make a monster claim for damages and injury!    L0L   That'll teach them a lesson.
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Post by: DaveR on March 14, 2011, 06:35:05 pm
I was in Cafe Culture earlier and a black Volvo (not the owners, before anyone asks!  8) ) was left parked on the bus stop for at least 10 minutes, causing all sorts of problems for the buses and passengers. A traffic warden arrives and starts to write a ticket. As he does so, a blonde woman runs across the road (maybe from HSBC), says something to the warden, he nods, she jumps in and drives off.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 14, 2011, 06:42:02 pm
He was probably jotting down his telephone number!      WWW
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Post by: Nemesis on March 15, 2011, 11:29:22 am
I was in Cafe Culture earlier and a black Volvo (not the owners, before anyone asks!  8) ) was left parked on the bus stop for at least 10 minutes, causing all sorts of problems for the buses and passengers. A traffic warden arrives and starts to write a ticket. As he does so, a blonde woman runs across the road (maybe from HSBC), says something to the warden, he nods, she jumps in and drives off.

mmmm wish I had been there-- the charity shop I help at is on a bus stop and I have seen more than one person get booked whilst lugging boxes of stuff in there which they are donating. I would have asked what the criteria was that this person didn't get booked whilst people who are donating things have been. Grrrr They make me ill.
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Post by: Pendragon on March 17, 2011, 09:21:44 am
Does anyone know where this centre is going to be? It must be a big building if its going to have 41 bedrooms and other in house facilities.

St Dunstan’s, the national charity that aims to provide an independent future for blinded ex-Service men and women, as we will be opening a 41 bed centre in Llandudno, Wales in late summer or autumn 2011. The Grade II listed building provides a number of services to beneficiaries and will be active and open 24/7 throughout the year.

I  know now, just looked it up.  What a beautiful looking building it is too.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 17, 2011, 10:34:03 am
Traffic Accident - Conwy Road - Thursday evening

A 17 year old driver had since died.       Full details www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-11275251 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-11275251)

How many more before the police get off their backsides and monitor this piece of road in the evenings?   That piece of road together with the roundabout at each end are treated as a race track. 
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Post by: Llechwedd on March 17, 2011, 11:36:48 am
Pendragon - The St. Dunstan's Centre is what used to be Lady Forester's Home and subsequently the north Wales Medical Centre.
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Post by: DaveR on March 17, 2011, 01:09:45 pm
It's a great building; I went for a nose round it a few years ago:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/1517302710_ceb695ad66_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/1517302710/)
Lady Forester’s Convalescent Home, Llandudno - Front Facade (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/1517302710/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Pendragon on March 17, 2011, 01:17:02 pm
Thanks Llechwedd - I've only really seen it through the trees.  I love buildings like these.  I love the one of Pwllcwrhon hall too Dave.  When I was writing up the Chronicles of Thomas Roberts (which is nearly finished) this building was mentioned in connection with Sir David Erskine and I thought at first it was, or had been situated in Conwy.  So that answered that question too.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2011, 01:22:54 pm
The inside of the Lady Forresters was very impressive when it was the North Wales Medical Centre, very elegant decor.
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Post by: Trojan on March 17, 2011, 06:20:28 pm
The inside of the Lady Forresters was very impressive when it was the North Wales Medical Centre, very elegant decor.

This was the dining hall when it was Lady Forester's:
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Post by: brumbob on March 17, 2011, 06:54:30 pm
It's a great building; I went for a nose round it a few years ago:
It looks like that awful stone cladding in your photo  :-\

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Post by: Paddy on March 17, 2011, 07:43:13 pm
I read in the Pioneer today that St. Dunstans have just recieved £2.5 million from RBL.

I can't believe ther're only 41 bedrooms in there!
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Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2011, 05:53:25 pm
The seagulls are happily munching their way through another batch of dead starfish that have been washed up on the beach:
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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 06:14:20 pm
What's with all these dying fish, Sardines, Trout etc.  I know they've given various excuses but there has to be something going on.
My conspiracy theory is under water testing somewhere.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2011, 07:04:23 pm
Many species of sea fish are credited with committing Hari Kari and the starfish is just one of them.  Everything from whales to spratts do it.  It is just the lemming theory, one jumps over the cliff so they all follow.  Daft innit?
 )*)&
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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 07:19:54 pm
Please don't think I'm taking the proverbial, Yorkie, although I am giggling, are you saying that all those 100s of tons of fish in Australia (I think it was) committed suicide?
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Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2011, 07:23:57 pm
Without wishing to appear pedantic - Yes!

Mass suicide, not exactly unknown amongst the human race. ZXZ
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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 07:27:02 pm
This was January 2011.  Experts say these two events were not connected, I can't believe it was a coincidence?

A SECOND mysterious disaster killed 100,000 fish on the day 5,000 birds dropped dead from the sky in the same US state, it was revealed yesterday.

Shoals of drum fish corpses littered a 20-mile stretch of the Arkansas River and washed up near Ozark city.

A tugboat operator found them on New Year’s Eve at the same time that flocks of blackbirds started smashing into the ground at the Arkansas town of Beebe, 125 miles away.

There was the Australian Sardines, 100s of tons, then the Trout in the UK only last week. Plus two lots of suicidal Starfish!   :o


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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 07:30:04 pm
I know that mass suicide amongst humans has gone on in religious sects, are there any other instances.  I'm interested now
 ?{}?
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Post by: Yorkie on March 18, 2011, 07:37:07 pm
One quick reference for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide)
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Post by: Pendragon on March 18, 2011, 07:50:57 pm
One quick reference for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicide)
That's really interesting reading, brave really I suppose. Thanks Yorkie
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Post by: Trojan on March 18, 2011, 08:51:31 pm
We had a similar problem down in Redondo Beach last week.

The fish were packed into the harbour like........sardines.

Millions of Dead Fish - KCAL 9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niP6E9ZEeLI#ws)
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Post by: Fester on March 18, 2011, 11:03:17 pm
The starfish are not suicidal,  they are just SLOW.

Basically the tide was out to the lowest level that I have ever seen it, and the Starfish just can't move quickly enough to keep with the 'drift out'

The seagulls don't even like then that much .... they mess about with them, nibble a bit off, drop them on the prom and the pier... but they are more trouble than they are worth (especially if there are some mussels or ice cream in the vicinity)

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Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2011, 10:44:31 am
Found 1/2 of one in one of my flower pots last week--- gross  :roll:
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Post by: Trojan on March 19, 2011, 02:27:58 pm
Found 1/2 of one in one of my flower pots last week--- gross  :roll:

Mussel or ice-cream?
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Post by: Paddy on March 19, 2011, 02:35:02 pm
Found 1/2 of one in one of my flower pots last week--- gross  :roll:

Mussel or ice-cream?

Seagull?
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Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2011, 05:57:51 pm
No wings on it, so it didn't fly there !! _))*
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Post by: Trojan on March 19, 2011, 07:26:15 pm
No wings on it, so it didn't fly there !! _))*

Gull?
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Post by: Trojan on March 19, 2011, 07:27:15 pm
Seagull steals food from Puffins beak:

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/810446-seagull-steals-a-puffins-food-from-its-mouth (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/810446-seagull-steals-a-puffins-food-from-its-mouth)
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Post by: Fester on March 19, 2011, 07:29:28 pm
Thieving b****r...
But is it really a seagull?  With that beak and head colouring?

Where did the solitary wing come from?

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 19, 2011, 07:32:56 pm
Thieving b****r...
But is it really a seagull?  With that beak and head colouring?

Where did the solitary wing come from?



Arthur Gull  :D
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Post by: Yorkie on March 19, 2011, 07:35:41 pm
Black Headede Gull Summer Plumage.
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Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2011, 03:21:31 pm
To go with the very low tide yesterday was a very high one this morning - good thing there wasn't a gale blowing!
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Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 05:16:32 pm
Hey, The Grand Hotel has just caught my eye.  :)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 20, 2011, 05:22:52 pm
Hey, The Grand Hotel has just caught my eye.  :)

you need some eye protectors  8) :P L0L
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Post by: Trojan on March 20, 2011, 05:23:50 pm
Hey, The Grand Hotel has just caught my eye.  :)

you need some eye protectors  8) :P L0L

 $lol$
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Post by: DaveR on March 23, 2011, 11:08:16 am
What a fantastic day it was yesterday, weatherwise. I was sitting outside Cafe Culture in the afternoon and it was so warm in the blazing sunshine that it actually began to feel a little bit too hot! Not quite so nice today.
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Post by: Blodyn on March 23, 2011, 11:24:36 am
Yesterday was beautiful, wasn't it.  This was a view from the Great Orme yesterday.  Aren't we lucky to live here!
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Post by: Yorkie on March 23, 2011, 11:25:10 am
Was also very pleasant sitting on Pedro's landing stage outside 101, and the air is not quite so toxic as Mostyn Street!    ZXZ
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Post by: Trojan on March 23, 2011, 05:21:31 pm
Was also very pleasant sitting on Pedro's landing stage outside 101, and the air is not quite so toxic as Mostyn Street!    ZXZ

Does Pedro fly a helicopter?  :-X
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Post by: Yorkie on March 23, 2011, 05:24:47 pm
No - it's for his Ark when we get the floods.    _))*
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Post by: Trojan on March 23, 2011, 05:27:10 pm
No - it's for his Ark when we get the floods.    _))*

 :laugh:
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Post by: Jas on March 24, 2011, 02:41:31 pm
   Where is Cafe Culture?? 8)
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Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 03:00:18 pm
Its across the road from HSBC
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Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 03:59:31 pm
   Where is Cafe Culture?? 8)

 :)

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Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 06:51:22 pm
Where was that taken from, Trojan?  8)
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Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 09:42:59 pm
Where was that taken from, Trojan?  8)

An Arriva open top sight seeing bus. (Boarded outside Nigel Roberts' Newsagents)
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Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 09:48:12 pm
Where was that taken from, Trojan?  8)

An Arriva open top sight seeing bus. (Boarded outside Nigel Roberts' Newsagents)
thats....http://www.nigelroberts.co.uk/ (http://www.nigelroberts.co.uk/)   :laugh:
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Post by: Fester on March 24, 2011, 09:51:39 pm
Never knew Nigel had a website.... did you have a hand in that Dave?


Trojan... is that the journey you took to a certain appointment at Maesdu Fields?

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Post by: DaveR on March 24, 2011, 09:53:12 pm
Never knew Nigel had a website.... did you have a hand in that Dave?
Certainly not! I would have made sure the shop was correctly placed on the map, for starters, instead of it being shown as at the bottom of Arvon Ave...  :roll:
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Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 11:44:01 pm
Never knew Nigel had a website.... did you have a hand in that Dave?
Certainly not! I would have made sure the shop was correctly placed on the map, for starters, instead of it being shown as at the bottom of Arvon Ave...  :roll:

It's not the location of the shop, it's where Nigel Roberts likes to hang out and watch the world go by.  ^*^0 (*) $00$ :cyclist40:
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Post by: Trojan on March 24, 2011, 11:46:06 pm
Trojan... is that the journey you took to a certain appointment at Maesdu Fields?

 >?>?? Wasted journey that was.
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Post by: brumbob on March 24, 2011, 11:51:05 pm
It's not the location of the shop, it's where Nigel Roberts likes to hang out and watch the world go by.  ^*^0 (*) $00$ :cyclist40:
Perhaps he sits on the corner with Bugsy
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Post by: Fester on March 24, 2011, 11:53:10 pm
Trojan... is that the journey you took to a certain appointment at Maesdu Fields?

 >?>?? Wasted journey that was.

Not too sure mate...he who you had planned to meet seems to have mysteriously disappeared!  Job done I'd say.
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Post by: brumbob on March 24, 2011, 11:59:02 pm
Not too sure mate...he who you had planned to meet seems to have mysteriously disappeared!  Job done I'd say.
ha ha, it's great to read these old posts again
http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-therouxs.html (http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-therouxs.html)
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Post by: Trojan on March 25, 2011, 12:09:47 am
Not too sure mate...he who you had planned to meet seems to have mysteriously disappeared!  Job done I'd say.
ha ha, it's great to read these old posts again
http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-therouxs.html (http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.com/2009/07/louis-therouxs.html)

 L0L Every one a classic!

It's actually rather sad; the town needs a good forum, but one untainted by the owner's delusions of paranoia and the astonishing ineptness of 'Trojan'. Why the decent contributors to that forum have swallowed his tales so easily for so long is utterly beyond me. Without being unkind, I can only assume they are relative novices in the internet world and thus susceptible to the strange constructs of the truly deluded.
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Post by: Trojan on March 25, 2011, 12:13:20 am
Trojan... is that the journey you took to a certain appointment at Maesdu Fields?

 >?>?? Wasted journey that was.

Not too sure mate...he who you had planned to meet seems to have mysteriously disappeared!  Job done I'd say.

We stopped at the Baytree so I could drop off a gift for my mate.  8)
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Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 08:19:39 am
my mate.  8)
8)
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Post by: Jas on March 25, 2011, 08:29:58 am
Thank you Dave & Trojan, I had a fav coffee shop on the Gold Coast & have been trying to find one in Llandudno. At the moment I like Le Gatte in Craig y Don but will try C.C.
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Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 09:09:03 am
Kava in Upper Mostyn Street is also very good.
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Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 09:14:40 am
It's not the location of the shop, it's where Nigel Roberts likes to hang out and watch the world go by.  ^*^0 (*) $00$ :cyclist40:
Perhaps he sits on the corner with Bugsy
I'll ask Nigel when I see him....
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Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 02:00:39 pm
Planning Application has gone into convert the old Shus shop in Lloyd Street into a cafe/restaurant. Think it is the Hambone expanding.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 25, 2011, 02:19:11 pm
Visitors to the town will not go short of places to eat then?    Just the lack of entertainment to sort out now!    L0L

Oh!  And the Christmas lights, and pot holes, and 1001 other things.     ¢¢##
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Post by: brumbob on March 25, 2011, 06:13:49 pm
Planning Application has gone into convert the old Shus shop in Lloyd Street into a cafe/restaurant. Think it is the Hambone expanding.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/100416/museum-first-for-extravaganza.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/100416/museum-first-for-extravaganza.aspx)
must just be a temporary museum
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 25, 2011, 08:08:57 pm
Thank you Dave & Trojan, I had a fav coffee shop on the Gold Coast & have been trying to find one in Llandudno. At the moment I like Le Gatte in Craig y Don but will try C.C.

I like Le Gatte too and the Cappuccino there is the nicest I've tasted anywhere.  Home from Home Cooking in Penrhyn Bay is also a good place to go and is usually quite busy which is a good thing nowadays.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 25, 2011, 08:13:36 pm
I'm quite happy with the Cappuccino at Wetherspoons
I can have 2 or 3 for the price of 1 in Cafe Culture
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 25, 2011, 08:19:27 pm
There's Cappuccino's and there's Cappuccino's Brumbob and I bet that Le Gatte's will beat both Wetherspoon's and Cafe Culture.      ;) ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 08:19:59 pm
I'm quite happy with the Cappuccino at Wetherspoons
I can have 2 or 3 for the price of 1 in Cafe Culture
But you can you sip it outside in the sunshine and watch the world go by, Brumbob?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 25, 2011, 08:36:34 pm
and choke on the car fumes or smokers  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 08:55:26 pm
and choke on the car fumes or smokers  :laugh:
Rubbish!!  Wetherspoons is a soulless mausoleum of a building...you'd best advised to take a torch if you go there. ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 25, 2011, 09:06:21 pm
But you can you sip it outside in the sunshine and watch the world go by, Brumbob?

Did you mean sPit ?    L0L

I favour Pedro's Cafe 101, small and bright, facing directly South and away from the road with easy parking.  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 09:20:26 pm
But you can you sip it outside in the sunshine and watch the world go by, Brumbob?

Did you mean sPit ?    L0L

I favour Pedro's Cafe 101, small and bright, facing directly South and away from the road with easy parking.  :D
Not a lot of good when you want a coffee in central Llandudno, though....  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2011, 09:21:06 pm
Anyway, Fortes in Rhos is better than any cafe named so far!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 25, 2011, 10:29:14 pm
I have to stick up for Wetherspoons Coffees,  its the Lavazza brand,  its excellent... and its he cheapest in town.
Also, get your card stamped and you get one free, after buying the previous 5.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2011, 07:41:00 am
Anyway, Fortes in Rhos is better than any cafe named so far!  ;D

I'll go along with this, problem is it's no good when you want a coffee in central Llandudno!    :P   :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 08:02:19 am
I have to stick up for Wetherspoons Coffees,  its the Lavazza brand
Good coffee depends upon two things....good quality coffee beans...and the correct preparation. Wetherspoons have the first bit correct....  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jas on March 26, 2011, 08:32:11 am
Went to Wetherspoons once (not for Coffee tho), loved that they had saved some of the features of the old Palladium. but hated the rest of it. Think I will stick with Le Gatte for the time being.   (Hi Hugo) :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 26, 2011, 10:13:38 am
La Gatte was excellent when we went, and a lovely ambience.  But you pay for that!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:26:10 pm
Snapped a proper pic of Cafe Culture as I was going past this afternoon...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 26, 2011, 06:35:12 pm
Why has that lamppost not got a light on top of it  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:35:39 pm
Good to see the Palladium finally being uncovered...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:38:31 pm
Why has that lamppost not got a light on top of it  :rage:
None of them have, apart from a couple down by Bog Island and a few in Upper Mostyn Street. They were all removed when the present method of lighting Mostyn Street by floodlights above the shops was installed in the 1970s. There was talk of them brought back into use but it comes down to £££ as always. Most towns would be cherishing an original Victorian feature like that, Llandudno's are abandoned...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on March 26, 2011, 06:40:57 pm
They should have left the lights on top even if they weren't in use  :rage:

The Palladium is looking pristine  $good$

seems like they are having a bit of planning trouble with the new signs though
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:45:21 pm
Yes, they should look like this...:

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/25702328_dccfd99eed.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/25702328/)
Victorian Lamp at Llandudno, North Wales (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/25702328/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

or this...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3362/3435760004_d22198aff1.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/3435760004/)
The Blue Lamp (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/3435760004/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Very elegant designs, both of them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 06:51:06 pm
The Palladium is looking pristine  $good$

seems like they are having a bit of planning trouble with the new signs though
Yes, and I'm not quite sure why.   $scratch$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 26, 2011, 09:05:57 pm
Snapped a proper pic of Cafe Culture as I was going past this afternoon...

Mine was a bit out of date I suppose. Not so easy for me to pop into town on a regular basis.  ££@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2011, 09:09:57 pm
Snapped a proper pic of Cafe Culture as I was going past this afternoon...

Mine was a bit out of date I suppose. Not so easy for me to pop into town on a regular basis.  ££@@
Pfft, as if living 5000 miles away is any excuse.  $sunny$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 26, 2011, 09:16:06 pm
Snapped a proper pic of Cafe Culture as I was going past this afternoon...

Mine was a bit out of date I suppose. Not so easy for me to pop into town on a regular basis.  ££@@
Pfft, as if living 5000 miles away is any excuse.  $sunny$

At least you can see the St Georges Place sign clearly in my photo!  $happy$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2011, 03:05:38 pm
 :rage: Having just been to Iceland foods i cannot believe why the Managers of all those stores are putting up with those traffic lights,9 seconds their on for its a joke,,fourteen shops on there and it is all judged on Asda,i cannot believe nobody else is not bothered by Highways joke of transport management in this town .I thought we were getting electronic car park signs to show availability,anyway no wonder Aldi want to get of there when their customers can;t. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 27, 2011, 04:03:53 pm
I have been on a visit to Aldi in Llandudno this afternoon.   Didn't have any long wait to get through the traffic lights.  The wait was to get out of the retail park back onto the road!   >>>

And this was about 10 past 3.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 29, 2011, 06:55:05 pm
  ¢¢## Llandudno right now is very quiet,no developments and no news,even Oscar can find nothing going on. ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2011, 07:02:25 pm
I can tell you that according to the Llandudno Town Council the following amounts have been given to the Llandudno Rugby Club:
2004     500.00
2005     500.00
2006     500.00
2007    2000.00
2008    1000.00
2010    1000.00
2011     500.00

Seems to be a regular "gift", surely grants should be for special needs, not an annual income source!

No influence by any particular Councillor has been declared. 

Other figures are awaited regarding other grants or subsidies.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 29, 2011, 07:38:52 pm
No influence by any particular Councillor has been declared.

 *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2011, 08:04:26 pm
Can you get a better picture, we have the Town Twinning to do yet!     L0L  
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 29, 2011, 08:34:49 pm
Can you get a better picture, we have the Town Twinning to do yet!     L0L  

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=20203529005 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=20203529005)

 _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2011, 08:49:36 pm
How did I miss it?    L0L    L0L     L0L    $eu  

Vive la Ville de Wormhoudt!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on March 29, 2011, 08:53:58 pm
Some of the comments on The Wall are hillarious:  L0L

I was bored to tears on the M6. My mp3 player died thus was forced to listen to him for eleven hours.

But one day, I'm convinced the knowledge about the hidden bunkers WILL save my life.


On a diving trip to Malta in the early '90s he announced us to a hotel receptionist as four skin divers.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 29, 2011, 08:56:22 pm
I read them all and also checked out all his "friends".  I wonder if he knows?     _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on March 31, 2011, 11:53:21 am
Abbey Lodge again!

Planning permission applied for in todays NWWN to knock down original lodge and to amend plans already passed.  haven't been round there since the foundations were laid.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 31, 2011, 09:12:38 pm
Abbey Lodge again!

Planning permission applied for in todays NWWN to knock down original lodge and to amend plans already passed.  haven't been round there since the foundations were laid.
To knock down the lodge that was knocked down months ago?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2011, 12:12:26 pm
St. Dunstans new centre will need 70 staff, all the info is here if anyone is interested:
http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/about_us/working_for_st_dunstans/index.html (http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/about_us/working_for_st_dunstans/index.html)

Photos of the work to get the Centre ready are here:
http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/support_us/llandudno_capital_appeal/llandudno_centre.html (http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/support_us/llandudno_capital_appeal/llandudno_centre.html)

(http://www.st-dunstans.org.uk/images/gallerymainphoto/915_photo_4.jpg)
Image courtesy St. Dunstans
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 01, 2011, 12:48:02 pm
Abbey Lodge again!

Planning permission applied for in todays NWWN to knock down original lodge and to amend plans already passed.  haven't been round there since the foundations were laid.
To knock down the lodge that was knocked down months ago?

The builder obviously knows the loopholes in planning laws! I can't see the Lodge here in the photo I took on the 7th October 2010.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 02, 2011, 08:24:04 am
Cycling on the promenade update.

1057. CYCLING ON LLANDUDNO PROMENADE

The Capital Programming and Traffic Engineer sought Members’ views
regarding the use of Llandudno Promenade for un-segregated cycling, and
to review the byelaw prohibiting cycling.

Representations had been received from the Llandudno Promenade
Consultative Group requesting a review of an existing cycling prohibition
on the Promenade.

The issue had been placed on the Communities Forward Work
Programme by Councillor Christine Rees Jones.

In support of reviewing cycling on the promenade Councillor Christine
Jones made the following observations:-

•   Not allowing cycling on the promenade was out of step with other seaside towns

•   Cycling should be allowed for reasons of health, tourism and leisure

•   In relation to health and safety issues, accidents also happened on roads and pavements

•   Cycling on the Parade was dangerous

•   The byelaws were not clear and could be open to interpretation

•   Cyclists should be allowed on the Promenade on an informal basis

•   Cycling could be allowed for a trial period

•   A Task and Finish Group could be established to look at best practiceof other Local Authorities which permitted cycling on theirPromenades

Comments and answers to questions were as follows:-

•   On 24 August 2006 Cabinet had refused a variety of options to allow cycling on the Promenade

•   Parade Road, adjacent to the Promenade, was dangerous for cyclists

•   The Promenade was wide enough to allow cyclists and pedestrians

•   Mostyn Estates would need to be consulted, in the first instance, before consideration was given by the Council to allow cycling on the
•   Promenade; this was to ascertain whether they would object as they own the Promenade

•   Although the byelaws could be improved upon, for clarity the Acting Corporate Director confirmed that cycling was not permitted on the Promenade

•   If objections were made against a change to a byelaw it could lead to a public inquiry

•   Heritage Lottery Funding had been received for the gardens, which ran parallel to the Promenade, and Local Electoral Division Members did not want them removed in order to provide a cycle route

•   The need for cyclists to obtain insurance, in case of accidents, was discussed

•   Although there had been no reported accidents or collisions between cyclists and pedestrians, there had been anecdotal evidence of incidents and near misses

•   Health and safety issues would need to be considered in detail

As a way forward it was agreed to establish a politically balanced
Promenade Cycling Task and Finish Group to review the previous decision
of Cabinet not to allow cycling on Llandudno Promenade.

RESOLVED that

a politically balanced Promenade Cycling Task and Finish
Group be established to:-

•   Consult with Mostyn Estates
•   Ascertain best practice of other Local Authorities
•   Discuss Health and Safety Issues
•   Review the current byelaw

Councillor Linda Groom requested that her voted against the above
recommendation be noted.

Councillors Philip C. Evans J.P., Linda Groom and Margaret Lyon declared
a personal, but non-prejudicial interest in the above as they are all
Members of Llandudno Town Council

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 02, 2011, 08:46:35 am
This whole cycling on the Prom thing is a non issue and a waste of Council time. I see people cycling on the Prom every day. Incidentally, I was walking along the Prom in Colwyn Bay last weekend and, once again, cyclists were riding on the pavement rather than the cycle path.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Waffagolf on April 02, 2011, 10:22:25 am

My Dad used to live in the Lodge they've knocked down. I have a picture of him as a 2 or 3 year old sitting right outside with his mum on the doorstep watching him play. I was very sad when I heard the Lodge had gone.

Nasty accident not far from there the other evening when a cyclist coming down the Orme at speed around 8pm collided with a fox crossing the road. One could not see the other. I'm told the cyclist was not in a good way.
Abbey Lodge again!

Planning permission applied for in todays NWWN to knock down original lodge and to amend plans already passed.  haven't been round there since the foundations were laid.
To knock down the lodge that was knocked down months ago?

The builder obviously knows the loopholes in planning laws! I can't see the Lodge here in the photo I took on the 7th October 2010.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 02, 2011, 10:34:03 am
Welcome to the forum, Waf
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 02, 2011, 12:29:55 pm
•   Cycling on the Parade was dangerous

I wonder if a one way system down the Parade and back up Mostyn Street (or vice versa) for all traffic could be the answer.  :cyclist40:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on April 02, 2011, 01:41:50 pm
•   Cycling on the Parade was dangerous

I wonder if a one way system down the Parade and back up Mostyn Street (or vice versa) for all traffic could be the answer.  :cyclist40:

It's a good idea which has been mooted often over the years. It would certainly solve the problem of tailbacks caused by coaches loading/unloading on the Prom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 02, 2011, 01:58:21 pm
I can give you a plan which I drew up a few years ago whilst I was in Hospital for a few weeks following an operation.    No one was interested despite the relative simplicity of the arrangement.    $walesflag$



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 02, 2011, 02:05:41 pm
Twenty four years ago, a plan to pedestrianise Mostyn Street was put forward, to be defeated by the shops en masse complaining it would destroy their businesses through the loss of 'passing trade'.  Twenty four years on and the declining number of surviving shops are blaming the Parc Llandudno and Mostyn Champney shops for their impending demise. Perhaps if they'd employed a little more foresight and a little less tunnel vision Mostyn Street would still be thriving.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 02, 2011, 05:42:12 pm
Ian, I was not suggesting pedestrianisation.

If all the traffic went up Mostyn Street with M&S on their right-hand side this would immediately eliminate the present queues coming down Mostyn Street towards Bog Island.

There already is a designated cycle path that comes down Conway Road by the Magistrates' Courts to join up with my proposed one-way route up Mostyn Street.

I would certainly be interested in listening to Yorkie's suggestion if he is prepared to share it with us.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 02, 2011, 06:32:20 pm
A real feeling of Summer today, with beautiful weather and both the tramway and cable car in full operation. Town and Pier were packed.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5064/5582729524_2159aedc18_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5582729524/)
Descending the Great Orme (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5582729524/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

 $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on April 02, 2011, 06:42:43 pm
A picture that must have been taken a million times
but you still made it look good  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 02, 2011, 07:46:27 pm
I would certainly be interested in listening to Yorkie's suggestion if he is prepared to share it with us.
I shall endeavour to commit it to a graphic format (a picture) and then post a scan to the Forum.  Give me a day or so.   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 02, 2011, 08:08:15 pm
I can't wait.   *&(

 :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40: 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on April 03, 2011, 02:03:52 am
Welcome to the forum, Waf

Welcome back Waffagolf.....long time no see.  8)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 03, 2011, 09:14:23 am
Quote
Ian, I was not suggesting pedestrianisation.

I know.  I mentioned it only as an example of how narrow interests often prevent changes for the better in the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 03, 2011, 10:54:20 am
We had a great time yesterday in Venue Cymru,  we went for a walk in the morning and when I was going past VC I remembered that David Dickinson was there with the team from 'Dickinson's Real Deal' so we popped in for a quick look. There were not many people there and we watched a few deals being done and retake after retake! There are 4 separate dealers sections, each with it's own film crew, several times we were required as extras in the background, afterwards we were rewarded with free coffee & food (no entrance fee either, right up my boulevard  ;D ) After about an hour and a half we thought lets go home and find something to sell, so after a quick sandwich at home (I eat a lot :laugh:) we returned clutching valuable antiques ;)  we had our items looked at and 2 were selected to be filmed for the show, the first was an enamelled sign (Lyon's Tea) that I had bought for a tenner about 3 years ago at a car boot, Helen was doing the on screen bit and the dealer offered £60  :o  D) Helen turned to me in the background and asked if that was ok, I nodded in agreement (in my head I was screaming 'YES, YES!!! ) That was a good result!  Our other item was filmed also with er indoors but the offer was not enough so on the 28th April it's off to Morgan Evans,  Anglesey  for auction, we had a good chat with the auctioneer afterwards and we will be putting a few other items into the same auction  D)
In all a great day, cost nowt and a good earner too, David Dickinson is a total professional, going form dealer to dealer filming different deals, he was good to talk to too!                 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on April 03, 2011, 11:01:25 am
that sounds great,  will watch out for it on the box! *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 03, 2011, 11:06:25 am
It may well be around 4 months before they show it, I believe they will make 4 shows from the filming on Saturday.
I forgot to mention that they filmed a piece on Punch and Judy whilst we were there .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on April 03, 2011, 01:10:31 pm
Great result Andy, let us know nearer the date of broadcast
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 03, 2011, 04:44:54 pm
 :()Ihave just got back from a weekend in Liverpool so decided to pop down to Llanrhos cemetry and put some flowers on Mums grave,it was very busy and i was shocked to see the place looking such a mess.I do go on  regular visits and will admit it normally is well kept,but to think it is mothers day and the CCBC did not check the place out is not very nice. ¢¢##
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: brumbob on April 03, 2011, 05:08:43 pm
The Registrar and his staff can be contacted regarding any crematorium or cemetery matter on 01492 544677
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 03, 2011, 06:28:19 pm
 :( Im not really trying to make an issue out of this as the cemetry normally is very well kept its just the thought of hundreds visiting there today on what must be the buisiest day for visits that the CCBC did not cut the grass or empty the bins on friday. :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 07:14:16 pm
Whilst passing through Llandudno Junction today, I noticed that all the street nameplates had been replaced with fancy new ones, even ones on alleyways!

Sadly, Llandudno itself hasn't had any new ones in yonks, just look at the state of them (see pic below). I'll ask the same question again...what has Llandudno Junction got that other parts of the County haven't? Answers on a postcard please to Mike Priestley, the Cabinet Member for the Environment, c/o his Llandudno Junction ward....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 07:27:02 pm
There's a building plot for sale on Llys Helig Drive - see attached plan (Plot is in yellow, Old Abbey is in red to aid identification). Offers over £700,000.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 03, 2011, 07:38:07 pm
...what has Llandudno Junction got that other parts of the County haven't?

lots of cash? 
the signs in Penrhyn Bay are no better  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 04, 2011, 05:07:55 pm
 ??? I have just noticed that two little cul de sac;s at the top of builders st have permits for residents parking,now i know the people of Charlton st,Jubilee st,Caroline rd ,have been trying for years because office staff and shopworkers park outside their houses all day,yet Marion place and Marion rd have been given this privilage,why? :roll:/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 04, 2011, 05:35:37 pm
The Junction is being "attended to" so that all those folk working in the new Assembly rooms building will have a clean and pleasant environment in which to frollic and play.    Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on April 04, 2011, 05:44:41 pm
??? I have just noticed that two little cul de sac;s at the top of builders st have permits for residents parking,now i know the people of Charlton st,Jubilee st,Caroline rd ,have been trying for years because office staff and shopworkers park outside their houses all day,yet Marion place and Marion rd have been given this privilage,why? :roll:/

I can only assume it must be to stop the Council workers from the depot just up the road leaving their cars there all day?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 04, 2011, 06:03:43 pm
 8) Very true Paddy ,so why are the Mostyn ward streets left to put up with parking everyday,could it be certain Clls have more say on Tudno. :-\
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on April 04, 2011, 08:28:36 pm
...what has Llandudno Junction got that other parts of the County haven't?

lots of cash? 
the signs in Penrhyn Bay are no better  :(
Merddin Emrys you are absolutely right. £400K infact
see http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=143&doc=28168&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=143&doc=28168&Language=1)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2011, 08:36:12 pm
What I genuinely don't understand is why Llandudno Junction keeps getting singled out for special treatment. All of the pavements, street lighting, railings etc were replaced using money from Tesco back in 1997...and now yet more work gets done whilst other towns and villages in the County get nothing and havent had a penny spending on them for years - Rhos on Sea springs to mind?
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Post by: JasonW on April 04, 2011, 08:56:46 pm
I agree, by putting all the money into the more deprived areas it means those other areas just deteriorate further.
Unless something is done to improve the more viable but still struggling areas like Llandudno, Rhos on Sea, Deganwy then all that happens is a continually downward spiral that will ultimately create more deprived areas.
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Post by: wrex on April 06, 2011, 09:24:50 pm
 :roll:I notice a certain councillors road is having dropped curbs installed and the pavements recovered,when the likes of Caroline road has been completly ignored,but i supose that is why he gets the votes on his ward . :rage:
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Post by: Yorkie on April 06, 2011, 09:28:50 pm
Are you talking about Councillor Philip Evans?   Who presides over one of the most deprived wards in the whole of Wales, where he has been a Councillor for over 30 years!

Maybe he thinks that a few dropped kerbs will help to engraciate himself with the voters who have been let down during those years.
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Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2011, 11:05:02 am
'Hitler’ threat to Jewish ex-lover
by Dan Beavan, DPW West Apr 7 2011

A MAN accused of threatening to disfigure his Jewish ex-partner shouted “Heil Hitler” as he was led from the dock in court yesterday.

Stephen Murray, 29, of Parc Bodnant, Llandudno, pleaded guilty at Prestatyn magistrates’ court to two offences of breaching a restraining order prohibiting him from approaching his former partner Ashleigh Terry.

ŠProsecutor Nia Lloyd said on April 4 and April 6 Murray sent her menacing text messages.

In one message he said: “I am back, I am back. Heil Hitler” and in another he told her: “I’m going to shave your head and draw noughts and crosses on your ugly Jewish face with my trusty blade Geronimo”.

He also wrote: “You can’t restrain the Luftwaffe with a restraining order”.

Murray also admitted 12 offences of causing criminal damage after slashing the tyres of cars on the road where Ms Terry’s mum and sister lived.

Simon Sargent, defending, described the whole incident as “regrettable” but stressed that no violence had occurred.

He was committed to Mold Crown Court for sentence.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/04/07/hitler-threat-to-jewish-ex-lover-55578-28475115/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/04/07/hitler-threat-to-jewish-ex-lover-55578-28475115/)
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Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2011, 07:44:39 pm
The building at the bottom of Mostyn Street that used to house the Wonderllandudno gift shop has been bought by Mostyn Estates who are renovating and redecorating.
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Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2011, 03:08:20 pm
There's a boat in trouble out in the Bay, the Lifeboat has just gone out to rescue it.
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Post by: Trojan on April 08, 2011, 05:31:04 pm
There's a boat in trouble out in the Bay, the Lifeboat has just gone out to rescue it.

This rescue seems to be taking a long time.  ???
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Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2011, 05:41:13 pm
Nah, the Lifeboat attached a line to the boat in distress (which was not far from the pierhead) and towed it off in the direction of Conwy after about 10 mins.  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on April 08, 2011, 09:05:42 pm
Tomorrow is Grand National Day.   A good Tip with a local connection is:

OSCAR TIME
Worth chancng a quid or so!     L0L

My tip is BIG FELLA THANKS
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Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2011, 03:34:39 pm
Busiest day of the year so far in Llandudno. The sunshine has brought the crowds out in force.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 09, 2011, 04:30:30 pm
Well a SECOND place with Oscar Time  Wasn't a bad result.  Big Fella Thanks   was 8th so didn't do too bad.   And I didn't get the tips off my Daughter this time!    Z**
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Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2011, 08:13:41 pm
A busy Llandudno today:
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Post by: Paddy on April 10, 2011, 04:43:32 am
A busy Llandudno today:

Which carried on into the night.  The wheels didn't stop turning until two minutes before I poured my first vodka at 4am!
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Post by: wrex on April 10, 2011, 08:14:38 am
 ;D Sweet dreams :-*
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 08:47:50 am
A busy Llandudno today:

Which carried on into the night.  The wheels didn't stop turning until two minutes before I poured my first vodka at 4am!

$good$
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 05:20:57 pm
The Hoosons and old Boots Chemists shops on Mostyn Street have had their windows blocked up after closure and all the signage removed this afternoon. Odd that no attempt has been made to let the premises before closure?
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 05:38:40 pm
Another beautiful day, town seemed even busier than yesterday:
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 05:45:48 pm
Several of the town's miscreants were caged this afternoon at the pier entrance in aid of St. Davids Hospice and were only released when they had raised enough money for the charity. Amongst those visible are the Pier Manager, Conservative AM candidate Janet Finch-Saunders, The Manager of the Imperial Hotel, The Manager of Bodyshop, The Headmaster of Ysgol San Sior, The Manager of the Afon Conwy, The Mayor of Llandudno... Fair play to them all for being sporting enough to take part.
http://www.stdavidshospice.org.uk/ (http://www.stdavidshospice.org.uk/)
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 06:03:10 pm
Some more photos of the St. Davids Hospice Fundraising event on the Pier.

1) Pier manager, Simon Mason, slips out of his handcuffs.
2) The Mayor of Llandudno, Ann Yates, is removed by PC Mike Smith after some unseemly behaviour.
3) Marcus Williams (Manager of the Imperial Hotel) attempts a spot of singing.
4) Ian Jones (Headmaster of Ysgol San Siôr) also attempts a spot of singing.
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2011, 06:13:56 pm
Some more photos...

1) Sue Jeffrey (Manager of the Llandudno Bodyshop) takes the microphone for a sing song.
2) Catwoman (Janet Magill) strikes her best Shirley Bassey pose.
3) Double Act - Man In Black (Derrick Orme - Tudno FM Presenter) and Pier Manager Simon Mason attempt a double act. Key word...'attempt'.  :laugh:
4) Some say she's just a clown...but we know better. The legendary Janet Finch-Saunders!!!
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Post by: Trojan on April 11, 2011, 05:39:20 am
Captured the event well there Dave.  :)
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Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2011, 01:36:43 pm
The Great Orme Tramway seems to be going backwards (not literally) in terms of its financial performance:

In 2008/9, it had a turnover of £620,000 and a Profit of £30,000
In 2009/10, it had a turnover of £710,000 and a Profit of £21,000

All figures from:
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/430/200910_Statement_of_Accounts_postaudit.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/430/200910_Statement_of_Accounts_postaudit.pdf)
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Post by: Yorkie on April 11, 2011, 02:59:33 pm
The Great Orme Tramway seems to be going backwards (not literally) in terms of its financial performance:

In 2008/9, it had a turnover of £620,000 and a Profit of £30,000
In 2009/10, it had a turnover of £710,000 and a Profit of £21,000

If all they can make on £620,00 is a measly 5% (approx), and 3% (approx) on £710,000 someone needs firing!   Was there exceptional overheads those years, or was it just damn bad management?   I feel a FoI request coming on!     D)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 11, 2011, 03:49:48 pm
they did have some accident repairs to do in the winter of 2009 / 2010 and if I remember correctly they stopped running after the accident on the upper section
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Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2011, 04:44:50 pm
they did have some accident repairs to do in the winter of 2009 / 2010 and if I remember correctly they stopped running after the accident on the upper section
Surely their turnover would have fallen then, not increased?  ???
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 11, 2011, 05:34:15 pm
it's the only thing I can think of that was different, without seeing their accounts we can only speculate. As a business the profit seems very poor, but with a tramway lots of maintenance will be needed, I'm just very pleased that it's running at all  D)  I do wish that there was a discount for locals or a season ticket available

 
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Post by: Yorkie on April 11, 2011, 06:20:31 pm
Become a Councillor you can also get Theatre tickets then!.  Get on the Theatre Committee and they then throw in a few lot of drinks.     $angry$
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Post by: wrex on April 11, 2011, 10:06:19 pm
 :) Yorkie,behave. 8)
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Post by: Yorkie on April 12, 2011, 08:11:10 am
:) Yorkie,behave. 8)

You know it's true - and also you get free drinkies after many of the Full Council Meetings, if you just hang back a bit instead of dashing off home!   I have seen a few Councillors come out of the Town Hall a little the worse for wear.   Have a look at the booze bill for the year ...---... Ah! just realised that's a bit difficult as it is "hidden" in the Petty Cash Account!    D) 

Yorkie knows, yer know!   _))*
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Post by: Nemesis on April 12, 2011, 02:45:52 pm
Surveyers at the Clarence this afternoon.
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Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2011, 02:48:09 pm
Surveyers at the Clarence this afternoon.
Hmmmm...Travelodge....Wetherlodge...Premier Travel Inn....?  8)
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Post by: Nemesis on April 12, 2011, 02:53:52 pm
Falling down into Arvon Ave?  ;D
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Post by: wrex on April 12, 2011, 05:41:49 pm
 8) They where still there at 5 15pm,it would be nice to get rid of just one eyesore. ZXZ
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Post by: Trojan on April 12, 2011, 06:22:20 pm
8) They where still there at 5 15pm,it would be nice to get rid of just one eyesore. ZXZ

Maybe Boots the Chemist has some ointment Wrex.  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2011, 06:38:33 pm
8) They where still there at 5 15pm,it would be nice to get rid of just one eyesore. ZXZ
They were still there at about 5.45 when I went past....
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Post by: Trojan on April 12, 2011, 06:45:53 pm
8) They where still there at 5 15pm,it would be nice to get rid of just one eyesore. ZXZ
They were still there at about 5.45 when I went past....

Alright then......where's the photo?  :D
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Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2011, 11:22:11 pm
No photos, I'm afraid!  :laugh:

The THV Patricia appeared off the end of Llandudno Pier this afternoon, to carry out some work on navigation buoys. Quite a large ship:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3237/2929219351_43916e4c30_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewfield/2929219351/)
THV Patricia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewfield/2929219351/#) by kate&amp;drew (http://www.flickr.com/people/drewfield/), on Flickr
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Post by: Nemesis on April 13, 2011, 02:24:39 pm
Still surveying outside the Clarence.
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Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2011, 02:26:16 pm
Such a detailed survey can only be for major work... 8)
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Post by: Nemesis on April 13, 2011, 02:28:02 pm
Hope so -- the place is a wreck.
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Post by: wrex on April 13, 2011, 07:12:19 pm
 ;D Once again Oscar seems to be more interested in politics rather than what is happening next door at the Clarence,six months ago it would have been big news on thoughts of Oscar,now not even a mention,i think he has given up on whats going on and just chasing Conservatives. :-*
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Post by: Trojan on April 13, 2011, 07:14:36 pm
;D Once again Oscar seems to be more interested in politics rather than what is happening next door at the Clarence,six months ago it would have been big news on thoughts of Oscar,now not even a mention,i think he has given up on whats going on and just chasing Conservatives. :-*

Relax....I've just made a phone call.  :D
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Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2011, 07:26:37 pm
I think it is positive news regarding the Clarence.   ;)
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Post by: Trojan on April 13, 2011, 10:27:18 pm
I think it is positive news regarding the Clarence.   ;)

Hmmmm, that impeccable source again eh?  D)
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Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2011, 08:50:23 am
I think it is positive news regarding the Clarence.   ;)

Hmmmm, that impeccable source again eh?  D)
That's the one.....  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2011, 11:12:08 am
A local Estate Agent has confirmed that Travelodge have secured a site in Llandudno. May be the Clarence but that is not confirmed.  $walesflag$
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Post by: Fester on April 15, 2011, 08:20:00 pm
Its one of those blissful, still evenings in Llandudno tonight..
Made even more heavenly by a few ''buy one get one free'' drinks in the newly re-furbished FatCat Bar with Dave R.

Its also nice to see that the Empire Hotel have properly prepared the outdoor pool area for the coming season. (see below)
I used to love it there on my many visits, and it brings back fond memories.

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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2011, 08:27:16 pm
Made even more heavenly by a few ''buy one get one free'' drinks in the newly re-furbished FatCat Bar with Dave R.
You beat me to it!  :o Yes, the Fat Cat is only half finished but it was nonetheless open and serving fine food and drink. Busy as well, lots of finely dressed ladies there.  ;)
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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2011, 08:30:50 pm
Lots of fisherman on North Shore beach, is there some sort of competition on?
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Post by: Yorkie on April 15, 2011, 08:32:18 pm
Could be the Bass Festival.   Fishy business,
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Post by: Fester on April 15, 2011, 08:33:27 pm
Lots of fisherman on North Shore beach, is there some sort of competition on?

 :o :o  There's a beach at North Shore now?? 
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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2011, 08:34:35 pm
Lots of fisherman on North Shore beach, is there some sort of competition on?

 :o :o  There's a beach at North Shore now?? 
To paraphrase Basil Fawlty...Yes, you'll find it between the Sea and the Promenade...  L0L
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Post by: norman08 on April 15, 2011, 08:41:14 pm
must have been loads of burst pipes  in town today  never seen so many welsh water vans
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Post by: Fester on April 15, 2011, 08:42:46 pm
Lots of fisherman on North Shore beach, is there some sort of competition on?

 :o :o  There's a beach at North Shore now?? 
To paraphrase Basil Fawlty...Yes, you'll find it between the Sea and the Promenade...  L0L

...and thats the Beach then is it?
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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2011, 08:48:28 pm
...and thats the Beach then is it?
That's the one....
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/27621337_43b0a80dfe_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/27621337/)
Llandudno Promenade, Llandudno, North Wales (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/27621337/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 15, 2011, 10:27:02 pm
must have been loads of burst pipes  in town today  never seen so many welsh water vans

It looked to me as if they may have had a meeting in Venue Cymru this morniing.
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Post by: Blongb on April 15, 2011, 10:51:13 pm
It was a meeting this afternoon Bri, the Welsh Tories launched their manifesto for the May election to the Welsh Assembly. Their candidate is Janet Finch-Saunders
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Post by: DaveR on April 16, 2011, 06:28:27 pm
The Land Train, Vintage Bus and Open Top Tour Bus were all lined up at the Pier gates this afternoon:
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Post by: Hugo on April 17, 2011, 03:40:56 pm
It was a beautiful sunny day in Llandudno and the prom was packed with people. As I was driving along I could see a lot of Porsche cars on the prom so I hope someone from the Forum has taken a few photos to go on here.    :)
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Post by: Fester on April 17, 2011, 09:17:07 pm
Tonight after work, it was an idyllic evening, so Mrs Fester and I packed a bottle of wine and a picnic in the rucksack and off we went.

We walked up to the Orme summit, and then accross to Angelsea Road back via the narrow paths high up above Lys Helig Drive.

As the sun set, we were counting our blessings, and I took these pictures of the sun going down from the vantage point of our picnic spot.

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Post by: Pendragon on April 17, 2011, 09:18:54 pm
We are so lucky living in the area we do.  I'd hate to live in a city, I really would.  Nice pics Fester  ;D
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Post by: Trojan on April 18, 2011, 12:06:53 am
We are so lucky living in the area we do.  I'd hate to live in a city, I really would.  Nice pics Fester  ;D

I agree, I just can't stand living in a city.  :-[
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Post by: Trojan on April 18, 2011, 12:07:38 am
 ;D
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Post by: DaveR on April 18, 2011, 08:13:54 am
Did you take those pics, Trojan?
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Post by: hollins on April 18, 2011, 10:21:22 am
Tonight after work, it was an idyllic evening, so Mrs Fester and I packed a bottle of wine and a picnic in the rucksack and off we went.

We walked up to the Orme summit, and then accross to Angelsea Road back via the narrow paths high up above Lys Helig Drive.

As the sun set, we were counting our blessings, and I took these pictures of the sun going down from the vantage point of our picnic spot.



How romantic!
I hope you have had some good business in this lovely weather we have been enjoying.
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 18, 2011, 11:50:35 am
Can anyone tell me how any body seems to be able to come in to Mostyn Street and sing/play/yell without being moved on?  in London you have to have a street performers licence but here it seems anyone can appear and launch forth. Last week some over amplified woman was screeching outside Jessops.  Today a bloke is playing the bagpipes outside St. John's church. No one seems to come and move them on.  Back in the day we had two bye laws inspectors, do you remember them?  Couldn't put any displays outside shops beyond the verandah etc. etc.

Llandudno used to be so nice.
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Post by: Pendragon on April 18, 2011, 11:59:50 am
 _))* are you referring to that old lady accompanied by the little Pug dog that sits on a blanket thoroughly unimpressed.  Or the other guy who reminds me of Father Francis by Marks.  :o
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 18, 2011, 12:06:55 pm
  Today a bloke is playing the bagpipes outside St. John's church.

Hmm... wasn't Yorkie looking for a Scottish costume a few weeks ago.............. ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on April 18, 2011, 12:37:58 pm
Yes I was!   Got the whole works - tried it all on - and decided I looked like a poor version of a Scottish , haggis eating, caber tosser - a tosser anyway!     L0L    As much as I like haggis, I decided it wasn't for me so the whole lot went back and my bank balance benefitted from the refund.  
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 18, 2011, 01:58:41 pm
 L0L L0L  so it wasn't you with the bagpipes then?  :D
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Post by: Yorkie on April 18, 2011, 08:10:44 pm
The perfect Tosser!   L0L

Caber Tossing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujpfCRpqkFs#)
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Post by: dwsi on April 18, 2011, 10:09:38 pm
Huge skip fire outside Llandudno Police Station tonight
http://yfrog.com/h4orhynj (http://yfrog.com/h4orhynj)
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Post by: Trojan on April 18, 2011, 10:27:05 pm
Did you take those pics, Trojan?

No, I didn't take them.
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 19, 2011, 12:10:37 pm
No the lady with the dof plays the keyboards and Ian whatsit sings - both badly but I've got used to them and I assume that as they are nearly alweays here that they are local.  The woman singing was so loud it was awful and as for the b***** bagpuipes sounds like a cat being castrated.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 19, 2011, 03:21:24 pm
Ah! That would explain why for the last couple of days our cat has been looking very concerned every time I go in the knife draw. Noise travels incredibly far round here I'm in the garden and it sounds like guy with the bagpipes is right next to me. 
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Post by: Nemesis on April 19, 2011, 04:04:53 pm
OMg Bagpipes always make me need the loo--- shall have to avoid going into Town ;D
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 20, 2011, 11:42:26 am
 ;D
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Post by: STDH on April 20, 2011, 03:28:15 pm
Several of the town's miscreants were caged this afternoon at the pier entrance in aid of St. Davids Hospice and were only released when they had raised enough money for the charity. Amongst those visible are the Pier Manager, Conservative AM candidate Janet Finch-Saunders, The Manager of the Imperial Hotel, The Manager of Bodyshop, The Headmaster of Ysgol San Sior, The Manager of the Afon Conwy, The Mayor of Llandudno... Fair play to them all for being sporting enough to take part.
http://www.stdavidshospice.org.uk/ (http://www.stdavidshospice.org.uk/)
Correction : The Manager of Imperial Hotel wasn't present, it was the Manager of The Marine Hotel, Llandudno ( Marcus Williams)
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 21, 2011, 11:49:37 am
Oh god, that over-amplified screeching woman is back.  Cuurently being blasted out of my seat in the library.  Why does no one stop her what a racket.  AND she has been singing tenor arias too.  hmm.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 21, 2011, 08:57:18 pm
Apparently roadside parking in Llandudno is now absolutely FREE.   All you have to do is speak nicely to the Traffic Wardens or whatever they call them nowadays.  That is if you can find one.   Just think of a simple reason such as you are going to the loo, loading, unloading, have no change, waiting for your aged parent, left your Blue Badge at home etc etc. Any simple excuse will probably work. 

 It seems that more than one of the Wardens are "unavailable" at the moment and the ones left are not too keen on punching numbers into their machines, thats just too much like hard work and can result in a severe case of repetitive finger injury..

This possibly accounts for the traffic chaos we have seen in the Town of late and a large reduction in Penalty Charge Notices.   ZXZ
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Post by: Fester on April 22, 2011, 12:36:24 am
Yorkie, are we talking about the first wave of CCBC cuts?  Is it a deliberate (but non-advertised) bonus?
Are we talking about staffing problems?   Or is it once again a case of gross mis-management.

Please elaborate.

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Post by: Yorkie on April 22, 2011, 08:53:45 am
Nothing to do with cuts - they wouldn't be so daft as to cut off a revenue stream would they?

Just seems that more drivers are getting away with illegal parking and Wardens are possibly turning a blind eye.    There also seems to be a slight reduction as some Wardens have not been seen on the streets for some time, maybe they have retired but then we would see their replacements.   Funny old World.    :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2011, 01:15:58 pm
Currently long delays on the prom at craig y don, some poor person has been knocked over outside regency royal hotel and traffic is one lane.
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Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2011, 07:34:20 pm
Very busy indeed in Llandudno today, perfect start to the Season:
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Post by: Ian on April 23, 2011, 07:43:23 am
That last photo could have been taken in the '50s.  Great sight.
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Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2011, 09:03:15 am
Definitely great to see. It looked like a day in the middle of August:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5029/5644173232_1bc49e7ff8_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5644173232/)
Busy, Busy, Busy (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5644173232/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: wrex on April 23, 2011, 06:38:57 pm
 :o Read some disturbing news on the coach drivers club forum about our coach park,the council have taken away the security guard and coaches have been broken into on 3 consecutive nights,why is the camera not catching them ,the police watching ,and CCBC NOT CARING ABOUT TOURISM.The posting was put up on the 23 april so very recent problem.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 23, 2011, 07:09:48 pm
The County Parking Manager left recently and I believe that he has not been replaced, but another staff member put in charge.  Also 2 of the outside Parking Staff are "off" for some reason other than holidays etc.

Break ins of coaches has always been a problem as long as I have known, as entry to the Builder Street park is possible out of sight of the guard, especially at night.
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Post by: Trojan on April 23, 2011, 10:17:22 pm
Perhaps the DDS (Dudno Death Squad were responsible?

After all, Maesdu Park is just a.......stones throw away.  8)

http://llandudnojetset.wordpress.com/page/7/?pages-list (http://llandudnojetset.wordpress.com/page/7/?pages-list)

Running with the wrong crew

Llandudno, the Queen of Resorts, has been besieged by a spate of Juvenile Delinquency. In an attempt to explain the problems everyone has their theory; “Disgusted of Craig-Y-Don” blames the lack of national service. “Outraged of West Shore” blames immigrants from Conwy, Save Our Scenery blames the impending Wind Farm.

In an effort to understand the problem Llandudno’s premier TV Channel, the Llandudno Broadcasting Corporation, sent their intrepid reporter to interview the leading members of Llandudno FC’s notorious firm; the “Dudno Death Squad” (DDS). Here is a transcript of the interview.

“(Cue panning panoramic shot of Llandudno Bay)

(Voiceover from Interviewer over footage): “Llandudno has always been “The Queen of Welsh Resorts” but now…

(Pull out to see Interviewer standing by Camera Obscura, interviewer adopts judgemental tone)

“…..something is rotten. The Dudno Death Squad have been running amok”

(Cut to Interviewer interviewing DDS’S “Top Boy”  Johnny X – Pixelated for anonymity)

Interviewer: “So, how do you feel about being singled out by people regarding the recent trouble in Llandudno?”

Top Boy: “Well we can’t do much about what people think but it’s sound that we’ve got a rep, like.”

Interviewer: “Do you feel in any way shameful about what’s happened”

Top Boy: “Nah mate, it’s sound”

Interviewer: “Could you tell us about some of the incidents you’ve been involved with?”

Top Boy: “We don’t like our end to be taken so we try to defend the honour of our town. We’ve seen ‘em all off. Denbigh, Holyhead, Flint. The naughtiest firm we’ve come up against was Lex 11, respect to them, they went toe to toe and didn’t give it toes, big respect. Most firms give it the big one, all mouth. They arrange an off and don’t show. It’s up to them to meet us, we’re the top boys around here. The most fun we’ve had has been in away games”

Interviewer: “Could you give us a few examples?”

Top Boy:” There was one good tear up I can tell you about. We were away at Mynydd Isa. We had good numbers, all 6 of us had turned up. We started to chant about them being interbreeding mongs and living in slums. They didn’t like this obviously, and we faced off. They charged us but we held our ground. Then we charged them and we ran ‘em. The Interbreeders gave it toes. We’d taken their end and we were kings!!”

Interviewer: “A few people don’t seem to fear you…”

Top Boy: “What you talking about, who doesn’t fear us? You’re joking!”

Interviewer: “Well some people we’ve spoken to have said that you’re not proper hooligans, you’re just kids who’ve just watched Green Street and the Football Factory a lot. They say that you’ve just copied the phrases in it”

Top Boy: “That’s bollocks. Yes we have watched them a lot of times but they’re good films. We’ve read all the Hooli-books too. My favourite is “Running with the Really Naughty Crew” by Yeovil’s top boy, it’s so life like. Anyway you shouldn’t listen to other people, the Interbreeders have been chatting doggy doos on the internet about us. They’re just jealous of us, jealous of our reputation as North Wales’ finest. How can you say we’re not proper hooligans? Look at our clothes, we’re proper casuals.”

Interviewer: “What do you mean by “Casuals” “?

Top Boy;They’re just boys that like dressing for matches. Look at our labels, top notch clobber; McKenzie, Carlotti, Nike, Regatta. We were the first dressers in North Wales, everyone is jealous so they start rumours. The thing about casuals is that you’ve got to be one step ahead; We’ve heard about this clobber called “Rock Island” or something, it’s dead hard to get and we’ll be the first to wear this in North Wales, you’ve got to stay ahead”

(Cut to Interviewer standing by Camera Obscura, interviewer adopts judgemental tone): There you have it, unrepentant and unashamed. The Dudno Death Squad.

Now you may have been hearing a lot about Goats breaking and entering into gardens, here’s Derek Smalls with a report…”


 _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2011, 08:47:50 am
David Curtis captured this great shot over on West Shore:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5030/5646731816_57a11154e2_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24433707@N08/5646731816/)
Suspended-animation (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24433707@N08/5646731816/#) by David_Curtis (http://www.flickr.com/people/24433707@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 24, 2011, 09:03:45 am
?????? What's great about a shot containing road signs and supermarket polybags?????

I think a truly GREAT shot is one which either evokes emotion, or makes one reach it inot thier pocket to buy for the living room wall.

I think Flickr is a case of The Emperors New Clothes !


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Post by: suepp on April 24, 2011, 09:30:42 am
The goats on the ledge looking up to the oblivious passers by with their supermarket bags and contemporary clothes, the road sign a clue to the surroundings that the photo doesn't show, The car passengers pausing to look at the view inches away from their car, nice social comment for the 21st century ! or unwitting testimony that in years to come will have people debating the make and model of the car and wondering what happened to the building!  ;)
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Post by: Ian on April 24, 2011, 09:48:12 am
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I think a truly GREAT shot is one which either evokes emotion, or makes one reach it inot thier pocket to buy for the living room wall.

But surely that's going to be different for everyone?
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Post by: suepp on April 24, 2011, 10:07:42 am
FlickR isn't just a showcase for clever photographers, there are snapshots with little artistic or aesthetic appeal but which capture the moment, just like the family albums we all have.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2011, 05:48:44 pm
What's Llandudno like now?--Busy !
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Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2011, 07:04:53 pm
Nice to meet you again today, Nem. You beat me to it with that particular pic, so I will contribute one taken from the top of the Little Orme this morning:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5221/5649947053_a00d9404d5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5649947053/)
Sweep of Llandudno Bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5649947053/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: suepp on April 24, 2011, 10:25:34 pm
stunning &well&
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Post by: Fester on April 25, 2011, 12:59:53 am
Not bad Dave... better than goats, supermarket polybags and roadsigns anyway ... Hmmm   $cool$
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Post by: Jas on April 25, 2011, 08:44:59 am
Lovely Photo Dave .I have friends coming to visit from Aussie next month & have sent them a copy to give them a foretaste of what they will see here. Jas
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Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2011, 11:42:41 am
Nice to chat again Dave, I did venture onto the first bit of the pier--mad fool that I am, but was glad to get home !
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Post by: Micox on April 25, 2011, 04:02:11 pm
Hey Trojan.

LBC left out the Llanerchymedd Loyalists who decend from the hills to savage the DDS - or they used to on Saturday nights at the Winter Gardens!  <:<:<:<  $bounce$  $angry1$
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Post by: Trojan on April 25, 2011, 04:24:35 pm
Yes, but they could never get past John 'Concho' Davies from the CPC (Cwm Place Catholics), on the door at Paynes Cafe Royal though.  ZXZ
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Post by: TheMedz on April 27, 2011, 06:40:53 pm
A fire on Augusta St this afternoon. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13216112 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13216112)
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Post by: wrex on April 27, 2011, 09:23:58 pm
 :o Who ever has taken over the Oscar roll is obsessed with polotics,i used to enjoy hearing things about Llandudno and whats going on,but all you get now is BORING polotics,come back the REAL Oscar. ZXZ
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Post by: Pendragon on April 27, 2011, 09:39:27 pm
:o Who ever has taken over the Oscar roll is obsessed with polotics,i used to enjoy hearing things about Llandudno and whats going on,but all you get now is BORING polotics,come back the REAL Oscar. ZXZ
Wrex I absolutely agree.  I have never kept secret the fact I know naff all about politics.  Oscar used to involve at least one other local issue in his blog.  Now I have a look, see more politics again and immediately switch off. Where is he?   
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Post by: Nemesis on April 27, 2011, 09:54:48 pm
Have just had a quick look---------see what you mean.
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Post by: Fester on April 27, 2011, 10:31:44 pm
I prefer OSCAR when he persectutes local misfits and ne'er do well's.   I can join in then... and its funny!

With politicians, I find that over the years, they all seem to blend in and sound just like each other.

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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2011, 02:38:17 pm
*Road Closure Notice*
Mostyn Street from North Western Gardens to Trinity Square West and all side roads around Trinity Church (trinity west, east, south) will be closed from midnight tonight.
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2011, 04:43:00 pm
Parts of central Mostyn Street will be closed overnight from 7pm to 7am, for two nights starting 4th May, to allow resurfacing work to take place.
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Post by: Bellringer on April 28, 2011, 04:58:13 pm
*Road Closure Notice*
Mostyn Street from North Western Gardens to Trinity Square West and all side roads around Trinity Church (trinity west, east, south) will be closed from midnight tonight.

BUT THERE WILL STILL BE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE CHURCH AND ITS CAR PARK FROM THE SOUTH AT THE REAR OF THE CHURCH ie from the direction of Vaughan Street along Charlton Street, and from the lights at the top of Trinity Avenue/Augusta Atreet.
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Post by: DaveR on April 29, 2011, 02:12:56 pm
Feels a bit odd in Mostyn Street at the moment, lots of people but only the odd car so it is much quieter than usual. Must have felt like this in Victorian times.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 29, 2011, 06:45:29 pm
I need to go parental visiting and get onto the A55 either around 10am tomorrow morning or afternoon around 3pm. Any suggestions re what the best way out onto the A55 from the Orme will be tomorrow at these times ? I'm currently thinking of  turning right at the Empire and then onto Church Walks or Abbey Road going over the railway bridge and out? Any alternative suggestions gratefully accepted.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 29, 2011, 06:53:49 pm
I would stick with you what you propose and I doubt if you will have much difficulty.
 
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Post by: Micox on April 29, 2011, 07:17:03 pm
 ;D "Parts of central Mostyn Street will be closed overnight from 7pm to 7am, for two nights starting 4th May, to allow resurfacing work to take place."

What, after they've buried Kate and William?  WWW $walesflag$
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Post by: Ian on April 29, 2011, 07:48:47 pm
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I'm currently thinking of  turning right at the Empire and then onto Church Walks or Abbey Road going over the railway bridge and out?

The trickiest bit is Gloddaeth Ave if they have the transport parade at that time.  But I doubt 10 or 3 will be that bad.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 29, 2011, 09:39:11 pm
I need to go parental visiting and get onto the A55 either around 10am tomorrow morning or afternoon around 3pm. Any suggestions re what the best way out onto the A55 from the Orme will be tomorrow at these times ? I'm currently thinking of  turning right at the Empire and then onto Church Walks or Abbey Road going over the railway bridge and out? Any alternative suggestions gratefully accepted.

So long as you use Church Walks or Abbey Road at the times you suggest and you are prepared to joust for a passing place you should be OK.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 29, 2011, 09:45:00 pm
At 10.00 you could go round Marine Drive, along West Shore and then into Bryniau Road.
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Post by: Fester on April 29, 2011, 11:59:55 pm
;D "Parts of central Mostyn Street will be closed overnight from 7pm to 7am, for two nights starting 4th May, to allow resurfacing work to take place."

What, after they've buried Kate and William?  WWW $walesflag$

Mean spirited Micox,  very mean spirited.
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Post by: wrex on April 30, 2011, 07:53:43 am
 8) Im very interested in CCBC approach to the coach situation in town,we know they have scrapped security and now the gates have to be left open due to the death of a young boy with simlar gates in Manchester,god nows where they are putting all the daytrip coaches this weekend because they have filled Builders st with ccbc skips and veichles.I know they are refitting the tin shed on Broadway but if it is not open why have they not put temporay units there for this weekend,i know CCBC put all their efforts and resources into Colwyn Bay Prom day and charge Llandudno for it. If any one gets a chance especially on sunday and Monday drive past Builders st mid afternoon too see where these coaches park im baffled unless they send them out of town somewhere. Z**
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Post by: wrex on April 30, 2011, 08:01:26 am
 ;) Don;t forget that ther is a special steam engine pulling into Llandudno station at lunch time bringing extravaganza supporters into town from the West Midlands,actually i think it is being pulled by two steam engines,how nice that will look. Z**
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Post by: Ian on April 30, 2011, 08:05:02 am
How's it all going, Wrex?  Any problems?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 30, 2011, 09:08:10 am
wrex, coaches usually park free all day in either the disused Halfords car park or in the cul-de-sac by the fire exit of Queen Elizabeth Court.

I cannot understand why CCBC cannot hold their Prom Day in Colwyn Bay on Whit Monday when there is never anything on.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 30, 2011, 09:33:43 am
BTW, Colwyn Bay are playing FC United in the Evo-stik play-off final at 3pm on Monday afternoon with a full house of 2,000 spectators expected.

With that and the Colwyn Bay Prom Day, it will be very busy over there.
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Post by: wrex on May 01, 2011, 05:41:58 pm
 ZXZ Packed too the rafters ,that;s what LLandudno like right now,and how nice too see. Z**
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Post by: DaveR on May 01, 2011, 06:10:01 pm
ZXZ Packed too the rafters ,that;s what LLandudno like right now,and how nice too see. Z**
I was saying just the same thing to a local shop owner yesterday.  ;D
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Post by: Trojan on May 01, 2011, 09:25:09 pm
BTW, Colwyn Bay are playing FC United in the Evo-stik play-off final at 3pm on Monday afternoon with a full house of 2,000 spectators expected.

With that and the Colwyn Bay Prom Day, it will be very busy over there.

Sounds like it will be a good game. I bet they'll be stuck like glue to their seats.  8)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 01, 2011, 09:42:39 pm
 L0L  get a grip man  ;D
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Post by: Trojan on May 02, 2011, 04:26:06 am
L0L  get a grip man  ;D

I think we've just bonded Merddyn.  Z**
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Post by: Nemesis on May 03, 2011, 10:38:08 am
;) Don;t forget that ther is a special steam engine pulling into Llandudno station at lunch time bringing extravaganza supporters into town from the West Midlands,actually i think it is being pulled by two steam engines,how nice that will look. Z**

Someone raised the subject of how the steam trains turn round.
My very knowledgeable neighbour has furnished me with this info.

It was simpler in the old days they would go to the turntable
 

Yes they have to go to Holyhead where there is a system for them to go in a loop to come back.

 

On Saturday the 2 steam loco’s were pulling the train to Junction.   At Junction one was released and placed at the end of the train so on arrival at Llandudno – one loco pulling and one at the back pushing.

 

The one at the back reversed out of Llandudno with the carriages the one at the front reversed to a set of points onto another line.   Then the carriages were pushed back into Llandudno and the 2 loco’s went off to Holyhead and round the loop – facing the Junction.    At Junction they would then reverse to Llandudno to attach to the carriages.     So when they left they were both pulling the carriages.

 

With a diesel they have a driving cab at each end. 

 

A friend who loves ‘diesels’ calls these steam trains ‘kettles’ and on the way back to the West Midland they caused 6 lineside fires.

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Post by: Llechwedd on May 03, 2011, 01:17:07 pm
Gosh han't it gone quiet?
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Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2011, 12:06:05 pm
I'm sitting on the balcony outside Ski Llandudno having lunch - it's lovely and sunny up here, with a great view across the bay. Llandudno is a great town on days like this.  :)
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Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2011, 06:06:02 pm
Man's body recovered from sea off Great Orme, Conwy

The body of a man has been found in the sea off the Conwy coast.

It was recovered from waters off the Great Orme in Llandudno by an RAF Valley rescue helicopter and lifeboat crew on Sunday afternoon.

Holyhead Coastguards were alerted by the crew of a boat at 1250 BST.

North Wales Police are investigating to identify the man and discover how he came to be in the water. His body has been taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd, Bangor.

A spokesperson for Holyhead Coastguards said they were not looking for anyone missing in the area at the time.

An inquest will be held in due course.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13327811 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13327811)
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Post by: wrex on May 08, 2011, 06:11:04 pm
 ;)Great views ,lovely town, the main reason WE all strive to keep it going in all weathers,
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Post by: wrex on May 11, 2011, 10:38:33 pm
 :'( I do hope that i have got this wrong but im sure i have read that  Rhos has just had its beach replenished with new sand,TAKE A LOOK AT THE NORTH SHORE CCBC. $angry$
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Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2011, 05:01:23 pm
I was passing through Llandudno earlier and noticed an Arriva bus parked outside HMV with its hazard lights flashing. There were several Arriva staff on board and a couple of Police, along with a Police car and van parked alongside. No idea what was going on but possibly some sort of fight/disturbance maybe?
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Post by: Nemesis on May 16, 2011, 05:41:10 pm
Our assistant manageress had been to buy milk and said it was a motorist who had scraped the bus trying to park, but it sounds a bit far fetched !
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Post by: Fester on May 16, 2011, 06:33:29 pm
It caused gridlock, right back to the roundabout at Hooson's corner.
Coaches and cars were backed up along Gloddaeth, and I had to go to Asda via Modoc St.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 17, 2011, 01:33:17 am
Our assistant manageress had been to buy milk and said it was a motorist who had scraped the bus trying to park, but it sounds a bit far fetched !

If she went to ASDA to buy the milk then I would have to agree with you. Quite a trek from the town centre.
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Post by: Nemesis on May 17, 2011, 11:03:37 am
Our assistant manageress had been to buy milk and said it was a motorist who had scraped the bus trying to park, but it sounds a bit far fetched !

If she went to ASDA to buy the milk then I would have to agree with you. Quite a trek from the town centre.

Poundland actually !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 17, 2011, 05:17:55 pm
Our assistant manageress had been to buy milk and said it was a motorist who had scraped the bus trying to park, but it sounds a bit far fetched !

If she went to ASDA to buy the milk then I would have to agree with you. Quite a trek from the town centre.

Poundland actually !

 :laugh:
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Post by: Michael on May 17, 2011, 08:42:19 pm
Is Poundland the same as "every thing a pound" ?  If so, how much milk do you get for a pound, I pay around 48p for a little one, then about 87p then I dont know but I suppose £1-50. Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 18, 2011, 02:26:23 pm
Think she gets a 4 pinter for £1---- same price as it was on offer in Asda this morning.
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Post by: JasonW on May 18, 2011, 04:04:09 pm
I've just returned from a consultation event at Llandudno Swimming Pool regarding the Shorline Management Plan.
The event is now open to the Public until 8pm this evening.
Well worth attending, deals with West Shore and westwards, but does show the future is not bright for Llandudno (and other areas of the Conwy Estuary route). (infact the forum name would probably need to change unless serious consideration is taken to the plans).
In the words of the Consultant, if Llandudno was not so important in terms of economics and housing, then the decision would be just to let the sea reclaim it.
The other issue with Llandudno is not as easy as building sea walls, as the sea level increases will come from beneath the town, not nescessary from the coast. We have a fair few years until this point but the plans do need some thought on how we deal with the threat. West Shore being an interesting point, should we allow nature to take its on course and create a natural defence.

Following is extract from poster:
Shoreline Management Plan, Llandudno Swimming Pool
Public consultation event on the second generation of Shoreline Management Plans that affects Conwy's coastline between Llanfairfechan and the Great Orme, Llandudno
Public Exhibition is open from 3pm, with regular presentations by Consultants, Royal Haskoning about the SMP with time for open discussions/questions.
The West of Wales Shoreline Management Plan (SMP) provides a high level strategy for managing flood and erosion risk for the coastline between St Anne's Head, at the entrance to Milford Haven and the Great Orme.
The Plan assesses these risks to people and the developed, historic and natural environment. It considers the immediate risks and how management of this risk can be developed in to the future in a sustainable manner, to ensure that this does not tie future generations to costly and unsustainable management. Although the Plan focuses on management of risks and defences, it has to take account of the broader issues of coastal management. It provides a framework with which opportunities for broader management can be considered and aims to provide the foundation for balanced management of other issues relating to the coastal area.
The draft SMP2 documents are available for review on the SMP website www.westofwalessmp.org (http://www.westofwalessmp.org) www.westofwalessmp.org (http://www.westofwalessmp.org), where you can also provide comments.

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Post by: DaveR on May 20, 2011, 02:41:21 pm
*reads report and makes note not to buy any property in Llandudno*  :o
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 20, 2011, 03:53:05 pm
I've not read the report, but before we bought our property in Penrhyn Bay we rejected several as a result of looking at the flood map!

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Post by: DaveR on May 20, 2011, 06:07:36 pm
I noticed that one of the empty shops in Madoc Street has been taken and is to become ACME Games.
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Post by: Paddy on May 21, 2011, 03:12:52 am
I noticed that one of the empty shops in Madoc Street has been taken and is to become ACME Games.

Dave, they used to be next to Molly's Cafe on Augusta St. so that unit is now empty!
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Post by: wrex on May 21, 2011, 08:54:57 am
  :) It is nice to see all the big works going on in Colwyn Bay,it needs regenerating so good luck,what alarmed me was the plans for their railway station as ours is still not finalised,i have a horrible feeling that Llandudno;s station is going to be sacrificed to the fund the Bays new station. :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2011, 10:58:39 am
It's utter chaos in town at the moment - nobody has any idea which way they are supposed to go by car. Roads seem to be closed entirely at random, people are just driving around trying to work out which way they are supposed to go. This race, without a doubt, has been very badly organised.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2011, 11:32:41 am
 :)Just had a little stroll down the prom,i noticed that our little patch of beach by the cenotaph is still covered in stones ,seaweed and litter,while sat in the CCBC HUT NEXT TO THE CENOTAPH is a member of CCBC staff reading a paper ,what a shame he does;nt have a rack then he could rack that small patch each morning looking for litter,glass etc.There is no will power with CCBC to look after the North shore,pour some West Shore sand on our beach and not R O S LIKE THEY HAVE.Does anyone remember CCBC buying a machine too clean the beaches at a great cost to us,where is it ? :rage:   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 22, 2011, 11:44:28 am
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This race, without a doubt, has been very badly organised.

I'm not sure organisation and Cabinet decisions occupy any mutual ground. In fact, to judge from today, I suspect the entire concept of organisation is anathema to the council cabinet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 22, 2011, 01:37:40 pm
Just returned from a stroll as far as the middle of the pier. The whole place is chaos, I counted about 3 people on the prom, not many on the pier and the town is jammed with motorists being turned back and forth. One man got out of his car by the Empire and said to the marshall standing there "How the F***** ing H*** am I supposed to get out of this god-forsaken place". Excellent for tourism :roll:
Poor Fester is twiddling his thumbs in his shop-- perhaps a claim to the Council for loss of buisness could be the order of the day !!

I can see a punch up before today is over. These race people haven't a clue what they are doing . >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 22, 2011, 01:54:07 pm
sounds like the same organisers who tried organising a drinking session in a brewery ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2011, 02:58:24 pm
Looking at the race route, you do have to wonder how anyone thought it could not cause major disruption in the town? We did predict it on here after all! Surely CCBC must have looked at the proposed route and said "Sorry, you'll have to rethink this, it will cause too much disruption'? There certainly needs to be a major rethink before any similar race is allowed again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on May 22, 2011, 08:02:45 pm
Nice weather currently but the met office have issued a "be aware" warning for Northern England and Wales for tomorrow (it was "be prepared" and for Tuesday morning as well but they've scaled it down a bit) and we are just on the southern edge so keep your fingers crossed.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/wl_forecast_warnings.html?day=2 (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/wl_forecast_warnings.html?day=2)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 22, 2011, 09:57:22 pm
With regard to the Race event today... after 5 fruitless hours supposedly 'working', I finally admitted defeat and asked Mrs Fester to drive down and pick me up to go home.

Well, that was as stressful as anything else has been today.

She tried to get from Asda to the Pier, a half hour nightmare... during which she encountered many 'road rage' type incidents of people going berserk at Marshalls and each other.

Then, as we tried to go up Ty Gwyn road...(our only route home) ..a Marshall said, 'Sorry, you can't go up there..please park up over there''

After getting the sharp end of my tongue...Mrs F had no choice but to blatantly ignore him... and drive up Ty Gwyn Road.

Today was a write-off business wise (at least for many) .. and an unmitigated disaster in terms of organisation.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 22, 2011, 10:16:21 pm
I was wondering why these runners coudn't have run several times up and down the promenade to avoid road closures?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 23, 2011, 08:15:23 am
Good point!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on May 23, 2011, 12:50:57 pm
As this town drpends on tourism why on earth wssn't the Tourist Information Office open on Sunday?  There were piles of confused people going up to the Library doors and walking away disgusted.  You'd think in the summer they would open. :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 23, 2011, 02:35:15 pm
Re the running event, i noticed that the Great Orme tour bus was closed as a result of the running, do they get compensated for loss of trade I wonder?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 23, 2011, 02:48:29 pm
I don't think so.  Neither do the cafes on the specific routes - such as the Orme Drive itself.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 23, 2011, 04:54:51 pm
As this town drpends on tourism why on earth wssn't the Tourist Information Office open on Sunday?  There were piles of confused people going up to the Library doors and walking away disgusted.  You'd think in the summer they would open. :(

We found that out a couple of weeks ago when we urgently wanted a list of available accommodation in Llandudno.

With the Tourist Information Office being in such a prominent position, it makes sense to keep it open on Sundays.

In fact, I was left wondering if it was closed on Saturdays as well.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on May 23, 2011, 09:15:40 pm
Sorry to hear that business was so bad on Sunday, Fester.  We could see from the Great Orme how quiet the pier was. 

In the evening I was talking to a gentleman who's a regular visitor to Llandudno.  He'd come to the town on Sunday with no special plans and was standing by the road waiting to see what was going on, when one of the race officials roped him in as a marshall.  He then spent two hours standing on a corner directing runners and traffic but fortunately did not seem to have suffered any abuse for his good deed. 

Regarding the Tourist Information Office, I think that it's open when the library is, so it should be open Saturday mornings.  I thoroughly agree that a TIO in a tourist town should be open all weekend. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 23, 2011, 09:21:20 pm
After 30 or so years you would have thought the message would have got through to local government that if you offer a tourist service in a tourist service area, that you need to be open when you are needed. i.e. bank holidays, weekends etc. Not a Wednesday morning in the first week of February.   Why do I say 30 years? Well probably the first, and worst, example. Politically a new look, Thatcher and all that. The Lowther, a private girls school in Bodelwyddan, had closed. So, partially to preserve the building, the Council (I imagine Clwyd) decided to dip their toes in the murky waters of commercialism. They bought it. Big fanfairs of trumpets. In October. Spent all winter working on making it into a tourist attraction. Renamed Bodelwyddan Castle.  What excitement when it opened on April second. Two weeks later, what a storm of abuse. Easter came and went, visitors scrambled to have a look at this new attraction, but, what happened. It was closed.
     At the inquest afterwards the Council said that all their employees from top to bottom took it for granted that they worked a 9 - 5 5day week, and definately off on Bank holidays. Bodelwyddan Castle was now council owned and operated and in never occured to ANYONE that it should be open. End of story.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 24, 2011, 04:29:50 pm
 :-[ None of us should be surprised at the tourist office being closed,this is CCBC we are dealing with.They are still doing up the tin shed on the Broadway coach park at least 10 weeks they have been there,extravaganza Sunday they had 70 coaches there and no toilet,yet they managed to put some on the prom on Sunday,AMAZING bunch of idiots. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on May 24, 2011, 06:05:54 pm
McCarthy and Stone are seeking planning permission to turn Plas-y-Dre (the former council run old people's home) and the building next to it into a new development of retirement flats.  The property is situated on Gloddaeth Street opposite Bryant and Hocknell.  They are currently seeking local people's views on the plans.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2011, 06:17:55 pm
McCarthy and Stone are seeking planning permission to turn Plas-y-Dre (the former council run old people's home) and the building next to it into a new development of retirement flats.  The property is situated on Gloddaeth Street opposite Bryant and Hocknell.  They are currently seeking local people's views on the plans.

I take it they're looking to demolish and rebuild? The existing buildings are not very attractive. There was a strong rumour last year that the Police wanted to move the Police Station there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on May 24, 2011, 08:41:18 pm
Yes, knock it down and start again and landscape the site too.  I can't imagine there will be too much opposition - as you say Dave the current buildings have little aesthetic value.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on May 24, 2011, 10:26:26 pm
I don't know if it was the after shock of all the winds of the last couple of days but the weather walking around town later on this afternoon, although still breezy, felt warm and welcoming. Just nice to be out in the fresh air.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 25, 2011, 04:47:13 pm
It's utter chaos in town at the moment - nobody has any idea which way they are supposed to go by car. Roads seem to be closed entirely at random, people are just driving around trying to work out which way they are supposed to go. This race, without a doubt, has been very badly organised.

Dave you've been quoted in the Pioneer on page 4, word for word  $3towns$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2011, 05:54:57 pm
Hmmm, yes.  ??? I see they also nicked my news about Dominos Pizza looking for a site in Llandudno that was on here a week or so ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 25, 2011, 06:10:28 pm
I've thought for some time that the local papers just get a lot of stuff from here and then we read it a few days later! (when it's old news) :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 25, 2011, 06:15:44 pm
It's utter chaos in town at the moment - nobody has any idea which way they are supposed to go by car. Roads seem to be closed entirely at random, people are just driving around trying to work out which way they are supposed to go. This race, without a doubt, has been very badly organised.

Dave you've been quoted in the Pioneer on page 4, word for word  $3towns$

There is a link to this on the BBC News website as well.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wales/north_west_wales/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/wales/north_west_wales/)


Fame at last ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 25, 2011, 09:22:47 pm
Having read that article, my previous low opinion of David Williams has been fully confirmed, and surpassed.

Whether it be his woeful comments about what to do with the Pier Pavilion, or the less-than-edifying state the exterior of his own hotel has been allowed to fall into. I am constantly underwhelmed by what I see and hear fom him.

To say there has to be ''pain'' to get ''gain'' is a total nonsense.

All that is required is a modicum of common sense and rganisational planning.

I too am all for any events being brought to Llandudno, (I am a well known fan of the Exravaganza) ... just manage them properly, that all I ask.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2011, 09:28:32 pm
I too am all for any events being brought to Llandudno, (I am a well known fan of the Exravaganza) ... just manage them properly, that all I ask.
That's it in a nutshell. There have been many other such events in the past, none of which have caused the disruption that this one did. Poor planning is the reason why. Let's hope the Organisers learn from the feedback when they organise the next one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 26, 2011, 07:56:11 am
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Let's hope the Organisers learn from the feedback when they organise the next one.

Hmmm.  The biggest problem was when the cabinet approved all the road closures without - apparently - considering the effects. If we're hoping they learn from the feedback...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on May 26, 2011, 12:01:11 pm
That's it then.  Half the shops are empty; buildings going to rack and ruin with no one with the energy to do anything about it; the towns going to be flooded and cycling allowed on the Prom.  I'd go if I had any money the whole place is going to hell in a hand cart.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 26, 2011, 01:10:09 pm
Having read that article, my previous low opinion of David Williams has been fully confirmed, and surpassed.

Whether it be his woeful comments about what to do with the Pier Pavilion, or the less-than-edifying state the exterior of his own hotel has been allowed to fall into. I am constantly underwhelmed by what I see and hear fom him.

To say there has to be ''pain'' to get ''gain'' is a total nonsense.

All that is required is a modicum of common sense and rganisational planning.

I too am all for any events being brought to Llandudno, (I am a well known fan of the Exravaganza) ... just manage them properly, that all I ask.
The man is blinkered-- he goes round to people in the hospitality trade to 'see if their premises are suitable to be part of the Llandudno Hospitality Association'. Look at his own--It would have fallen down if someting hadn't been done this last month.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on May 26, 2011, 01:19:24 pm
I was invited to join the Llandudno Hospitality Association (I didn't get the honour of a visit) but had to point out that I'm not in the Hospitality trade I was then offered to join as an associate is it worth it? Seems pretty expensive and I'm not sure what I'd get out of it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 26, 2011, 01:20:47 pm
No it's not and nothing . ??? The slate plaque is nice though !!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 02:50:38 pm
 :( Why don;t the hoteliers get rid of Mr Williams and start sticking up for themselves.When was the last time they confronted the town council about the state of the beaches,the empty shops,railway station,coach park,xmas lights ,its their buisnesses that suffer when nothing is done but they seem to sit back and let Mr Williams do nothing.Get him out ,make CCBC FILL THE A ZXZRENA WITH GROUPS AND THEN FILL YOUR HOTELS WITH CONCERT GOERS
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 26, 2011, 03:07:22 pm
That's it in a nutshell. There have been many other such events in the past, none of which have caused the disruption that this one did. Poor planning is the reason why. Let's hope the Organisers learn from the feedback when they organise the next one.

To date, I have not contributed to last Sunday’s fiasco because I knew I was going to the Theatre of Dreams for a day out and I was always going to miss the road race.

However, as a long-standing resident of C-y-D, I will submit my own feedback.

I had seen all these yellow road signs on lampposts saying certain roads would be closed for at least a couple of weeks before the event.

Initially, I thought the roads were being closed for resurfacing work because I do not remember seeing any mention of a road race on the yellow signs.

Something else I never saw either was a plan of these road closures all joined up in the local newspapers showing how Llandudno was going to be affected last Sunday.

Had a map been provided then I would imagine motorists could have planned better.
 


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on May 26, 2011, 03:10:29 pm
Total agree get people to the Venue and business will follow for all. A lot of hotels do golf breaks but not many do the Theater breaks which is understandable as there isn't a consistant number of quality shows on, very frustrating as most touring shows / groups would be happy to add a date on their tours.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 03:27:03 pm
  8) To be honest Dingo i feel the theater does okay its the Arena where they let themselves and the ratepayers [hoteliers] down by their lack of  ANYTHING INSIDE IT AND ESPECIALLY POP CONCERTS ,WHICH WHEN THEY DO MANAGE ONE GO DOWN VERY WELL. $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on May 26, 2011, 03:33:31 pm
If it was in private hands you'd make sure you had the place fully utilised even if it meant breaking even on some nights or offering to amateur acts. Mr Williams doesn't seem too popular, I've only spoken to him twice and because he didn't offer me or my business anything I ignored him.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Waffagolf on May 26, 2011, 04:18:49 pm
A letter was supposed to be put through every letterbox along the Llandudno 10 route informing both residents and businesses about the race. On the reverse of the letter was supposed to be a breakdown of the entire route from start to finish so everyone along the entire route were informed. The yellow road signs did state the wording "Llandudno 10" at the top of every sign. They were the first words one would read. Date and times were clearly stated of the closures.

The letter should have contained details of the official Llandudno 10 website, so anyone could visit the site and see a pictorial breakdown of the exact route, a corner by corner, road by road visual breakdown of the entire route. There was also a written breakdown of the entire route PLUS and aerial view showing the exact course the runners would take.

The letter should also have stated that a copy of the road closure order was available for anyone to see prior to race day. I should add that I saw road closure details in local newpapers and on other websites prior to the race. I even heard a race Representative on our Community Radio Station stating the route of the race to the listeners.

It would be interesting to know which homes or businesses along the route didn't get a letter, if any, as this was a stringent and must do part of the organisers agreement with CCBC in order to get the roads closed. If letters were not received, then the organisers were remiss and should be taken to task over it. They were under no illusions that letters should be put through EVERY letter box on the 10 mile route. No exceptions.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 26, 2011, 04:39:43 pm
I think a big part of the problem was the signage...or lack of it. There were 'Road Closed' signs and cones everywhere but no indication at all of an alternative route so motorists were just driving around trying to find a way out or in.

A good example was trying to leave the town via Craig Y Don. You went down to the Boulevard roundabout - the road onto the Prom was closed, so all traffic went straight across onto Mostyn Ave. They got to the junction with Clarence Road and, there, Mostyn  Ave was coned off, so all traffic turned left into Clarence Road (obviously a nightmare because it is quite narrow). Then, when they got to the Prom, they had to turn left back towards the Boulevard roundabout as the way right was coned off!

Totally ridiculous!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 04:44:28 pm
 Get JFS on the case,the sinod can sort it out. D);)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on May 26, 2011, 04:48:26 pm
It would be interesting to know which homes or businesses along the route didn't get a letter, if any, as this was a stringent and must do part of the organisers agreement with CCBC in order to get the roads closed. If letters were not received, then the organisers were remiss and should be taken to task over it. They were under no illusions that letters should be put through EVERY letter box on the 10 mile route. No exceptions.

I didn't get one!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2011, 04:49:34 pm
 ;)Is Yorkie on another cruise? :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 27, 2011, 05:41:25 pm
;)Is Yorkie on another cruise? :P

Maybe he fell off over the Atlantic.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 27, 2011, 06:22:03 pm
 L0L L0L
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Post by: Nemesis on May 27, 2011, 06:24:01 pm
 WWW _))* WWW _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 29, 2011, 09:34:04 pm
I noticed that repair work was taking place on Christchurch - a new owner maybe?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on May 29, 2011, 09:46:05 pm
Llandudno canoe and mountaineering club and folk club

https://sites.google.com/site/tonyfranks/home/john-evans-book
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 29, 2011, 09:56:09 pm
I noticed that repair work was taking place on Christchurch - a new owner maybe?

Does anybody know where the church records are kept for a marriage during the 1830's ?

I once tried the Rev Keith Jones about 15 years ago without much success.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 30, 2011, 08:56:32 am
 :) How does Llandudno start to attract young families into town again,there are hardly any coaches coming in for daytrips at the weekends ,during the week there are still a few but they are full of pensioners who are happy with what the town has to offer,but families on a wet day forget it and until we have one quality wet weather attraction families will not gamble on the weather.I;am surprised nobody has ever opened a pottery,childrens museum,model railway but you can;t force people but the town definatly needs one thing that will attract the family into town wet or dry. :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 08:59:57 am
There's  a sort of Pottery on Llywelyn Ave:
http://www.pots2colour.co.uk/ (http://www.pots2colour.co.uk/)

...but you're right. We could with a few more indoor family attractions to keep children occupied.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 30, 2011, 10:16:36 am
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model railway

There could be some mileage in that idea.  I've always thought a monorail running along the prom, around the Little Orme (just above the waves) and into Colwyn Bay could be a nice idea.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 30, 2011, 10:32:32 am
Bring back the tramway $good$
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Post by: Ian on May 30, 2011, 11:15:28 am
That would certainly be a winner.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2011, 12:27:27 pm
The Tramway wouldn't really be feasible unless it had a dedicated route, there would be traffic chaos otherwise.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 30, 2011, 12:36:01 pm
also some flats would need to be demolished to rebuild the  Rhos on Sea depot (the office is still there and is for sale!) I'd have thought there must be someway of running the trams with cars and I say that as a very keen motorist as well as liking trams :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 30, 2011, 03:22:37 pm
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model railway

There could be some mileage in that idea.  I've always thought a monorail running along the prom, around the Little Orme (just above the waves) and into Colwyn Bay could be a nice idea.

They did try something similar in Rhyl many years ago but it never caught on and was pulled down after a while.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 12:30:31 am
The Rhyl Promenade Monorail was opened by Terry Wogan.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Waffagolf on May 31, 2011, 12:39:27 am
On the point of wet weather tourist attractions. Let's not forget that the company behind the Rhyl Sea Life Centre wanted to come to Llandudno as their first choice. But the council being the council, turned them down, so they went to Rhyl, and Llandudno lost out.  :(

Madness when you think the SLC is open almost everyday of the year.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 31, 2011, 01:47:49 am
On the point of wet weather tourist attractions. Let's not forget that the company behind the Rhyl Sea Life Centre wanted to come to Llandudno as their first choice. But the council being the council, turned them down, so they went to Rhyl, and Llandudno lost out.  :(

Madness when you think the SLC is open almost everyday of the year.



Completely stupid as Rhyl is closer to the bigger and better Blue Planet in Ellesmere Port.
Llandudno would have got the trade from the west as well as the other tourists and done even better than Rhyl - In my humble opinion
Just think of the jobs it could have created for one!

Reminds me, I saw some guy doing an indepedant history walkabout thing a few weeks ago, about 6pm on a Tuesday. He must have had about 40 old people following him around, surely there is a market for a decent historical museum, that is centrally located and well funded? They could do one for the whole of North Wales not just Llandudno, would be plenty of content.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 08:08:14 am
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model railway

There could be some mileage in that idea.  I've always thought a monorail running along the prom, around the Little Orme (just above the waves) and into Colwyn Bay could be a nice idea.

They did try something similar in Rhyl many years ago but it never caught on and was pulled down after a while.
It was a commercial disaster, as I recall:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on May 31, 2011, 11:37:01 am

Does anybody know where the church records are kept for a marriage during the 1830's ?

I once tried the Rev Keith Jones about 15 years ago without much success.
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I think that Christchurch might have become part of Gloddaeth United, so it might be worth contacting them: 

http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sh/sh78/guc/ (http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sh/sh78/guc/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 06:29:02 pm
I saw our AM Janet Finch-Saunders in Madoc street with James Jackson, the estate agent, this afternoon. Looking for a Constituency office, perhaps?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on May 31, 2011, 07:01:34 pm
The cycling on the prom issue has made it onto the BBC website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13605040 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13605040)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 31, 2011, 08:49:54 pm
The Rhyl monorail was a complete disaster from the word go. Just one incedent of probably hundreds. Within the first week of operation one of the cars, loaded with passengers, came off the rail at one end, and was suspended leaning over at about 30 degrees unable to move repeat FULL OF PASSENGERS. That got the Company plenty of press publicity, photos. The reason it came off was because the bend was too tight, as simple as that. So for the rest of its limited life it just went along the straight bit and then reversed back along the same section.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 31, 2011, 09:00:24 pm
 :D Talking of cycling on the prom,who should cycle past us last night large as life ,CLL Janet Howarth,ok its not a finable offence but a TORY cycling on the promenade,woo. WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2011, 10:30:49 pm
Forgot to mention earlier, but I heard last week that the Arriva Open Top Bus Tour around Llandudno & Conwy will not be running this year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on June 01, 2011, 12:02:38 am

Does anybody know where the church records are kept for a marriage during the 1830's ?

I once tried the Rev Keith Jones about 15 years ago without much success.

I think that Christchurch might have become part of Gloddaeth United, so it might be worth contacting them: 

http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sh/sh78/guc/ (http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sh/sh78/guc/)
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Oops - messed up the quote here!  This was supposed to be an answer to Bri Robert's question on 29 May (reply # 1097).  Hope you find this answer, Bri! 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 01, 2011, 02:14:43 am
Thanks, Blodyn.

Somebody suggested that to me a few years ago on the previous forum and I did contact the vicar at Gloddaeth United at the time.

However, the vicar did confirm he now had the records but not those gong back to pre-civil registration in 1837.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on June 01, 2011, 02:16:34 am
:D Talking of cycling on the prom,who should cycle past us last night large as life ,CLL Janet Howarth,ok its not a finable offence but a TORY cycling on the promenade,woo. WWW

 L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 05:48:37 pm
 :P Oscar has really ripped into CCBC over their neglect of Llandudno,good reading. :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 07:11:41 pm
 :) I have just been up Cwm mountain to see how the tres are taking shape,from the bottom you would think their were no trees there,but once you get on the paths you can see them popping up all over the place above the ferns.Lets hope that no fire bugs go up there this year.  ???-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 07:12:46 pm
:P Oscar has really ripped into CCBC over their neglect of Llandudno,good reading. :laugh:
I'll go and have a look and report back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 07:41:48 pm
I've read Oscar's post and...don't really agree with all of it.

The fact is Llandudno is busier than it has been for many years. I've been told that certain Hoteliers have already taken more money this year than they did all last Season. There is no shortage of people visiting the town.

So..what are Llandudno's problems?

1) Large number of empty shops - A UK wide problem. High rent, high rates, chain retailers going out of business, growth of Internet sales are the reasons why. Only a combination of lower Rent & Rates can revitalise the main shopping streets.

2) Lack of tourist attractions/facilities - Llandudno has slowly lost a few attractions over the years and they have not been replaced. We need more indoor attractions, especially ones suitable for families with young children. Public spaces like Happy Valley are woefully underused - the dead hand of CCBC is responsible.

3) Decline in maintenance of public areas - a particular bugbear of mine. Broken pavements, unpainted railings, flowerbeds grassed over - all small things in themselves but which all add up to give an impression to visitors of a town in decline, a town with no civic pride. We must never forget that visitors always have the choice about where they can go for a break and a tatty seaside town will result in them going somewhere else next time.

4) Increasing visitor accommodation expectations not being met - Hotels like the Clarence and Tudno Castle Hotel gave up the ghost because of lack of investment over the years resulted in an accommodation experience that was less than appealing. Visitors are used to high standards in their own homes these days and will not accept anything less when on holiday. Llandudno Hotels need to raise their game.


Lastly, a question. I was walking along the Promenade this morning and musing to myself how little we hear from Llandudno Hoteliers on the decline in some aspects of the town. If my lifeblood was a Llandudno hotel, I would be raising hell about CCBC's treatment of the town. Yet we hear very little?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 08:01:03 pm
It is a typical British trait NOT to complain.   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 05, 2011, 08:02:48 pm
It is a typical British trait NOT to complain.   ;)
...and look where it's got them.  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 08:48:45 pm
Absolutely!   I get told off by the Mrs for complaining too much!   :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 05, 2011, 09:08:06 pm
. I was walking along the Promenade this morning and musing to myself how little we hear from Llandudno Hoteliers on the decline in some aspects of the town. If my lifeblood was a Llandudno hotel, I would be raising hell about CCBC's treatment of the town. Yet we hear very little?

Try the backlash-- it's not good !
Direct to the council --fine.
Public complaints-- ouch !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 09:41:45 pm
One would think that the Llandudno Town Council would do something about it by constantly lobbying the County Council.    Unfortunately all the Town Councillors are interested in is their little insignificant "enterprises".   Read the minutes in the Library and see exactly what they say and do.   Lots of small talk and precious little action.   The whole lot need sacking!     $angry$

Forgot, there are a few Town Councillors who are also County Councillors with a direct line to the County!  One is now even an Assembly Member, wonder how effective she is going to be?    L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 05, 2011, 10:26:49 pm
This is what I contributed on Oscar, on this subject.

''Why would areas such as Bodafon Fields be required to be developed? When there are perfectly good commercial sites crying out to have attractions built on them.
West Shore and The Pier Pavilion site could house fabulous 'Disney Quest' or Blackpool 'Sandcastle' type attractions.
Llandudno is not short of ideas, nor places to site them... it is short of willpower and a management team capable of making them happen''.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on June 06, 2011, 09:29:35 am
One Campsite would be great, not talking about a great big commercial site, but one with a decent shower block and small clubhouse and shop would do. The site of the Gogarth Abbey would be ideal!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on June 06, 2011, 07:38:30 pm
What's Llandudno like right now? This post is not entirely accurate as this is about my day out to Llandudno earlier today!

I had a lovely day out today in Llandudno. It started off by picking up the glass from Builder Street West. I found someone called Jason but he had never heard of the forum or Trojan so sorry about that Trojan but I did try!
I then decided to visit Haulfre Gardens which I have never been to before. I had seen Dave R’s
photos of the place on flickr. Fester had warned me that they didn’t look as good now but I was still quite shocked at the state that they have been allowed to get in to.
I made a mistake in thinking they were near the Happy Valley gardens so I started there. I walked past the cable car station and on up past the ski slope on to the rocks overlooking the bay.
What a magnificent view from up there and it was so beautifully clear today.
Then I descended the hill past the donkeys and still looking for the gardens I walked up the hill following the signs to Mike’s golf course. It was fascinating walking past all the things I read about on the forum! The tram driver gave me a lovely smile when I took his photo!
I thought I would ask Mike where the gardens were but unfortunately his sign said, “Lunchtime, back at 2.15”.
I walked back down the hill and asked a council worker and he showed me a nice path across the tops which came down in to the gardens. What incredible views from there. How in this world can they let this amazing place deteriorate like that!
I read on a posting recently from Dave R how infuriated he is with the council for letting brickwork and paintwork become shabby. I saw exactly what he meant today (see last two photos).
I had a nice lunch sat outside at the tearoom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on June 06, 2011, 07:41:36 pm
A couple of negative photos but I hope someone from the council is looking in. This is what a first time visitor saw at the gardens today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2011, 08:00:39 pm
Well, it sounds as though you had quite a pleasant day out!  :)

Haulfre Gardens is in a poor state and is almost embarrassing. As you say, a wonderful location, but spoilt by the lack of maintenance to both the gardens and the shelters within. Happy Valley is a lot better but still nowhere near as good as it could be.  :(

The good old days...

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 07, 2011, 08:13:23 am
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Not sure where the Mostyn Champneys traffic lights link has gone

I finally found the topic where you'd originally posted about the lights, and moved the newly created topic into it.  It's now here:

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=324.50 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=324.50)

Meanwhile, I've also moved your post into it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on June 07, 2011, 09:50:16 am
I'm glad that you enjoyed your day out in Llandudno, Hollins, and hope that you'll come again despite the poor state of the gardens.  There are some lovely walks on the Great Orme, with more of the splendid views.  If you get a copy of the map mentioned in this thread it will tell you lots of interesting things to look out for:

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=215.0 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=215.0)

The map is available from the cafe halfway around Marine Drive.  In the thread, the name of the cafe hasn't displayed properly and I'm having the same trouble with it.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2011, 10:03:08 am
The map is also on sale in the Haulfre Gardens Cafe.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on June 07, 2011, 11:05:07 am
Thanks for the map info Dave and Blodyn. I should have had that yesterday but still it was fun exploring!
I come to Llandudno every week to do my food shopping. I feel so lucky to be able to do such a mundane job in such a lovely place.
I will buy the map next time and make sure I do lots more walks on the Orme.
 $thanx$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: CurlyCap on June 07, 2011, 12:59:10 pm
I think a few more signposts would be helpful on the Orme.

There's a lovely woodland walk infront of our house that leads to Haulfre Gardens but unfortunately many people trudge up the Hill and Tram Track looking for it but then end up wondering around, unsure which way to go next.

Some more little wooden signs, showing the various trails and walks would benefit many of the walkers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on June 07, 2011, 06:49:01 pm
It started off by picking up the glass from Builder Street West. I found someone called Jason but he had never heard of the forum or Trojan so sorry about that Trojan but I did try!

Thanks anyway hollins, he wouldn't have known me as Trojan. Maybe curiosity will get the better of him and we will get a new forum member.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 08, 2011, 08:25:47 am
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Some more little wooden signs, showing the various trails and walks would benefit many of the walkers.

Good idea. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on June 08, 2011, 02:28:15 pm
We were in Jacks (was Matelots) on Sunday night for a pool match.  We were greeted by 8 local llandudno girls in fancy dress, they had taken part in the Race for Life on Rhyl prom on Sunday morning.  They had walked just over 3 miles dressed in pink complete with pink affro wigs, fair play to them they had raised over £1,200.  Well done ladies.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 08, 2011, 09:03:37 pm
Not sure which thread is appropriate for this (possibly) encouraging news...

As some Forum members are aware, Dave and I, (along with Mrs Fester) have been looking at several business opportunities in Llandudno / Conwy and Rhos in recent months.
Some projects have been abandoned as not viable, others are still ongoing... but this week 2 premises which Mrs F, (who is in charge of such matters) was due to view, have been chalked off the appointment list...as they have been snapped up!

I am referring to the Diskos and Homestyle premises, close to each other in Mostyn Street.

I have no information as to what businesses are to open therein, but it is potentially a positive move for that part of Llandudno.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2011, 09:13:30 pm
I was going to mention that but forgot, so well done.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 08, 2011, 09:27:03 pm
Hollins, sorry to have missed you. It is only this week that Ive tried out this "gone for lunch" idea. As far as I know you are the one and only person to have suffered!!! Not much consolation, I know  But, on Monday, I never saw a sole all day, and, I can tell you, that was a mighty long day with a flask of stewed tea to keep me company. After Friday that will be the end of the lunch hour because, according to last years takings, at least I take a fiver or so every day. Sorry again Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on June 11, 2011, 11:06:07 pm
It's been another lovely evening in Llandudno. 
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Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 02:53:05 am
Nice pic.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on June 12, 2011, 10:06:52 am
I've got some quite nice pictures of the views in Conwy I've taken at lunch times... Where could I put them on here?

 $thanx$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 12, 2011, 10:25:13 am
In Everything to do with Conwy?

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12.525 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12.525)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 12, 2011, 04:30:59 pm
 :( Wet that is what town is today and i have seen a few coaches coming in for the day,oh my god i thought what are those poor souls going to do in town today,the war museum,Llandudno museum,3 amusement arcades and shop oh ten pin bowling that is it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 12, 2011, 04:47:10 pm
You sound like Senna ! WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 04:54:35 pm
:( Wet that is what town is today and i have seen a few coaches coming in for the day,oh my god i thought what are those poor souls going to do in town today,the war museum,Llandudno museum,3 amusement arcades and shop oh ten pin bowling that is it.

When you think that the majority of the coach passengers are elderly it seems a travesty that there is nothing suitable for them to do.

The war museum will probably bring back unpleasant memories and all those machines in the local amusement arcades appear to be geared toward the younger element. (well, apart from one-armed bandits and penny pusher machines)

As for ten pin bowling, how on earth is an elderly person supposed to roll those heavy bowling balls for a length of time?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2011, 05:25:37 pm
Perhaps we need to reopen the Prize Bingo somewhere!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on June 12, 2011, 05:27:51 pm
As for ten pin bowling, how on earth is an elderly person supposed to roll those heavy bowling balls for a length of time?

this is how -> http://activitiestoshare.co.uk/BowlingSet.aspx (http://activitiestoshare.co.uk/BowlingSet.aspx)   ;D

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 12, 2011, 06:23:33 pm
Perhaps we need to reopen the Prize Bingo somewhere!
I notice whenever I pass it, the Amusement Arcade by North Western Gardens does Prize Bingo.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on June 12, 2011, 06:37:24 pm
Llandudno in the rain - nothing better than a nice cosy pub to sit in, who needs Bingo!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 10:16:41 pm
As for ten pin bowling, how on earth is an elderly person supposed to roll those heavy bowling balls for a length of time?

this is how -> http://activitiestoshare.co.uk/BowlingSet.aspx (http://activitiestoshare.co.uk/BowlingSet.aspx)   ;D


 _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 10:18:29 pm
Llandudno in the rain - nothing better than a nice cosy pub to sit in, who needs Bingo!

You can drink in the Conservative Club AND have a game of Bingo on certain nights.  +}}{-- $drink$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 10:20:35 pm
Perhaps we need to reopen the Prize Bingo somewhere!
I notice whenever I pass it, the Amusement Arcade by North Western Gardens does Prize Bingo.

Robins Bingo was the best at that location.

"It's on the blue five and two fifty two"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2011, 10:25:03 pm
The Prize Bingo on the Pier was excellent at one time  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on June 12, 2011, 10:32:43 pm
The Prize Bingo on the Pier was excellent at one time  ;)

I heard the prizes went missing on numerous occasions.  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 12, 2011, 11:03:41 pm
How did you come by that Salad Spinner and that Set of 6 Arcopal glass tumblers Dave?  :laugh:

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on June 12, 2011, 11:16:41 pm
You've got me thinking now Fester. What was the make written on the bottom of the school dinner water glasses?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 13, 2011, 07:51:55 am
Duralex?  (http://www.drinkstuff.com/products/search.asp?searchfield=Duralex%20Glasses&gclid=CP6X3u-lsqkCFQod4Qod8SmiKA)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on June 13, 2011, 07:54:32 am
Thanks Ian
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2011, 08:19:59 am
The Prize Bingo on the Pier was excellent at one time  ;)

I heard the prizes went missing on numerous occasions.  8)
They weren't worth nicking, mate.  :laugh:

In a previous life, I used to choose the prizes for the Prize Bingo on the Pier. One thing I learnt was..if an item looked so tasteless that you wouldn't have in your house, then order lots of it. One of the most sought after prizes was a large plastic clock in the shape of a gold coloured elephant. It was massive and the clock face was located where the body of the elephant was. The curious thing was that the clock hands each had a butterfly attached - I never found out why.  ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on June 13, 2011, 09:15:19 am
The description of the prize made me chuckle this morning!
Thanks for that.  It also convinced me that Fester's comments on what people want to buy in town are complelety correct!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2011, 09:27:49 am
Perhaps a mid ground of tasteful gifts/souvenirs at affordable prices is the answer. But is that achievable...maybe?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 13, 2011, 10:05:29 am
In a previous life, I used to choose the prizes for the Prize Bingo on the Pier. One thing I learnt was..if an item looked so tasteless that you wouldn't have in your house, then order lots of it. One of the most sought after prizes was a large plastic clock in the shape of a gold coloured elephant. It was massive and the clock face was located where the body of the elephant was. The curious thing was that the clock hands each had a butterfly attached - I never found out why.  ???

 :o I've seen trying to find one of those for years! It will go with my pink giraffe clock with a penguin on each hand!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on June 13, 2011, 12:09:23 pm
:( Wet that is what town is today and i have seen a few coaches coming in for the day,oh my god i thought what are those poor souls going to do in town today,the war museum,Llandudno museum,3 amusement arcades and shop oh ten pin bowling that is it.

When you think that the majority of the coach passengers are elderly it seems a travesty that there is nothing suitable for them to do.

The war museum will probably bring back unpleasant memories and all those machines in the local amusement arcades appear to be geared toward the younger element. (well, apart from one-armed bandits and penny pusher machines)

As for ten pin bowling, how on earth is an elderly person supposed to roll those heavy bowling balls for a length of time?

The country park Visitor Centre at the Great Orme summit is very interesting and those who’ve come for the scenery might enjoy it, while others might like Randolph Turpin’s bar.  Much of the Great Orme Mines is under cover and one can also have a coffee there and browse the secondhand books. 

BUT: how is a coach passenger to get to these attractions?  An open sided tram is not very alluring on a wet day and the 73 bus provides a rather limited service, leaving passengers at the summit for 2 ½ - 3 hours on a Sunday (on other days there are four, rather than three buses).  Much as I love the Great Orme I’m not sure that, as a visitor, I’d want to spend so long at the summit on a wet day and there is no timetabled stop for the copper mines.  Even this assumes that: the visitor know about the bus (remembering that Tourist Information is closed on a Sunday); arrives in time for the first bus; is able to get back from the Orme in time for their coach home. 

I’ve not really helped very much, have I?!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2011, 04:39:06 pm
I can see what looks to be a largish fire up in the Maes y Castell area of Llanrhos. Lots of black smoke billowing over.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 16, 2011, 05:18:57 pm
 ;D I take it from the lack of disscusion that the weekly news has none in today,concerning Llandudno  anyway. ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 16, 2011, 05:57:57 pm
This graffiti has appeared on the Prom, who could be responsible?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 16, 2011, 06:03:03 pm
This graffiti has appeared on the Prom, who could be responsible?

Hmm, were there any witnesses?  L0L


(Jehova's  ;D )
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 16, 2011, 06:52:44 pm
They needed it to "save" someone!    _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on June 17, 2011, 05:20:27 am
"We love God & Jesus"

I thought they were supposed to be the same?  ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 17, 2011, 08:22:59 am
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I thought they were supposed to be the same?

One of the great mysteries of the Christian religion, T. There's also a third aspect of what is purported to be the same supernatural being. All very difficult to understand.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 17, 2011, 08:56:25 am
Isn't Jesus supposed to be the Son of God?     $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 09:21:46 am
If he really was the Son of God it would mean he was a celestial being (I think that's the right word) which in turn would mean he was actually an Alien.  The one characteristic of all religious denominations is they pray to the sky.  He could also of been considered as a fore runner to David Blane or our very own Derren Brown.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 10:47:57 am
Today sermon is brought to you by the Reverend DaveR  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 10:59:14 am
 :laugh: How unfortunate that my hand happened to be covering my face when you took that photo.  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on June 17, 2011, 11:00:19 am
:laugh: How unfortunate that my hand happened to be covering my face when you took that photo.  8)
Yes quite  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2011, 08:13:37 pm
The new Coach Park Cafe looks to be ready to open.

"A MUCH missed facility will reopen and form part of a project to help train people who have overcome drugs and alcohol problems, therefore assisting them back into employment.

The cafe on Llandudno’s Mostyn Broadway coach park closed two years ago but will reopen next month after being completely refurbished. It will be staffed by six people at a time who will be mentored by experienced catering professionals.

Clive Wolfendale, the chief executive of alcohol and drugs charity Cais which will run the scheme said he hoped it would receive a positive response.

“We have the support of the Welsh Assembly Government and Conwy County Council and with their help have completely refurbished the building.

“The town council has also been very supportive of the project which will give people the opportunity of getting training which will help them find employment.

“The cafe has been in disrepair and was an eyesore and it has been completely renovated to a high standard as have the toilet facilities in the building.

“It will be professionally managed and we believe it will offer a much needed facility for both visitors and locals alike,” he said."

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/06/16/llandudno-cafe-will-help-rehabilitate-recovering-addicts-55243-28883577/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/06/16/llandudno-cafe-will-help-rehabilitate-recovering-addicts-55243-28883577/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 17, 2011, 08:24:51 pm
I have spent many an hour in that cafe in my Nat Express days. It will be busy at certain times on certain days in the summer, but virtually nil in the winter. If you are a local and feel like supporting it in the lean times, DONT EVEN THINK of parking your car in the hugh expanse of empty tarmac. I fully agree that all that space is needed for coaches picking up and dropping off on a summer saturday, but that is really the only time. God help any coach driver who thinks he might park there at a quiet time, forget it unless y.ou have a deep pocket to pay the fine.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2011, 08:42:13 pm
I like the final quote in that item about it being ''professionally managed''

That is one hell of a claim, and something that is in woefully short supply in the whole of the UK.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 18, 2011, 07:48:12 am
 :D The sun is out,rumours flying all over the place and JD sports opens today,hey. :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on June 19, 2011, 05:37:23 pm
What is Llandudno like right now "Fantastic" I have just walked to St Davids College Fete and then to Conwy and back along West Shore. Yep Knackerd but what a place to live. :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 19, 2011, 06:14:01 pm
 :) Is the project for the church on abbey rd going ahead,there seems to be a lot going on and what has happened to the golf driving range, just like the Poundstretchers signs everything has dissapeared. Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 19, 2011, 06:25:25 pm
According to the local 'gossip' it is to be a children's play centre called Bonkers ! :o--- Mmmm I thought that as well ! I'll believe it when I see it-- they have been mucking about for so long.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 20, 2011, 01:41:58 am
I wondered why the Police helicopter and Lifeboats were active so much the last two days... now I see why.

Here... a lady missing from The Risboro hotel since Friday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177)

Have you seen her?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 20, 2011, 05:52:22 am
God help any coach driver who thinks he might park there at a quiet time, forget it unless y.ou have a deep pocket to pay the fine.

I think you will find the coaches park for free in either the Old Halfords Car Park or outside the Fire Exit of Queen Elizabeth Court in C-y-D.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 20, 2011, 07:55:09 am
As usual the "powers that be" welcome with open arms all visitors to the town.  The Llandudno On Street Parking Order prohibits the parking of coaches on every street in the town.   All drop-offs and pick-ups should be at the Coach park where one has to pay through the nose for the priviledge.  Unless they are delivering to an hotel.

On a Bank Holiday we can get approximately 150 coaches in a day so it is a big money earner, and there isn't even a decent toilet facility for the passengers arriving or leaving.  The new cafe, as far as I understand, has just ONE toilet.   Just imagine the state of that at the end of a day with up to 7,500 people going through the coach park!    :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2011, 08:16:29 am
The new cafe, as far as I understand, has just ONE toilet. 
You're joking?!  :o
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Post by: Ian on June 20, 2011, 08:39:49 am
Quote
Just imagine the state of that at the end of a day with up to 7,500 people going through the coach park! 

Having said that, don't many modern coaches have their own on-board, toilets?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 20, 2011, 09:25:06 am
But are passengers, Ian, allowed to flush the toilet when the coach is stationary at the station?  ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 20, 2011, 10:19:34 am
The new cafe, as far as I understand, has just ONE toilet. 
You're joking?!  :o

No I am not!
Quote
Just imagine the state of that at the end of a day with up to 7,500 people going through the coach park! 

Having said that, don't many modern coaches have their own on-board, toilets?

Which can get full very quickly!   And there are not many places to empty them!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 20, 2011, 10:34:06 am
 and how long did it take to do the work on that tin shed , walk past the coach park see how full it does,nt get, the council are having a sign made VISITORS NOT WELCOME  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 20, 2011, 10:45:29 am
One big problem with the entire area is the lack of decent toilets for visitors. And so many of our visitors are elderly, who require the loo fairly often.
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Post by: catlover on June 20, 2011, 12:32:31 pm
Any arty photos of sunshine cafe and happy valley would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, from a llandudno lover who visits once a year. $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 20, 2011, 05:54:39 pm
I wondered why the Police helicopter and Lifeboats were active so much the last two days... now I see why.

Here... a lady missing from The Risboro hotel since Friday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177)

Have you seen her?
No , but the Police dogs etc were combing the streets on Saturday night, we had the biggest German Shepherd that I have ever seen outside our front gate. They closed the roads whilst they searched with the dog and it headed off up toward the Orme.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 20, 2011, 07:24:52 pm
I wondered why the Police helicopter and Lifeboats were active so much the last two days... now I see why.

Here... a lady missing from The Risboro hotel since Friday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-13829177)

Have you seen her?
No , but the Police dogs etc were combing the streets on Saturday night, we had the biggest German Shepherd that I have ever seen outside our front gate. They closed the roads whilst they searched with the dog and it headed off up toward the Orme.

The trouble is, I keep thinking I see her all over town... but a lady in her late fifties, with neat blonde-to-greying hair, dressed in walking gear... they all look so much alike.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 20, 2011, 09:00:26 pm
Getting back to the toilets and coaches discussion. Go to Pringles in Llanfair P.G., a medium sized retail "woolen mill" type of store, and you will find upwards of 50 toilet spaces in the mens. That is because they know that when a coach arrives there are 25 upwards males heading straight there. All at the same time
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 20, 2011, 09:04:51 pm
Did you say 25 UPWARD males Mike?   :o :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on June 20, 2011, 09:06:03 pm
When I was bus driving they used to 'look after' the drivers to make sure they stopped there so the amount of toilets was probably a calculated investment to be honest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on June 21, 2011, 05:47:32 pm
Is there a strike at Craig y Don school?
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Post by: Pendragon on June 21, 2011, 06:50:19 pm
OOps sorry it's next Thursday.  Facebook
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 21, 2011, 08:11:31 pm
SDQ, of course its an investment, no need to be honest about it, they are rightly proud of them. Edinburgh Woollen Mills are professionals. The point I'm making is that Llandudno coach station its toilet (and maybe its Cafe, I dont know about the new one) is not a good professionaly planned facility.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 21, 2011, 08:34:43 pm
Even the old mobile unit they had at the Coach Park couldn't cope in the silly season!   That had 4 urinals and two WC's for men and 4 WC's for the ladies.   Despite regular cleaning during the day it was a mess and it is a wonder that people used them.  Needs must I suppose!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on June 21, 2011, 10:03:49 pm
The new cafe, as far as I understand, has just ONE toilet. 
You're joking?!  :o
Mr Clive Wolfendale submitted a planning application to replace the toilets on the coach park. The application was considered at May's Planning Committee meeting.
The application was to demolish the existing facility and to replace with a "Ship Container" looking system. The committee refused the application as the Container system was not acceptable, but the committee were keen for an amended scheme to be resubmitted. Authority was delegated to officers to negotiate a more visually acceptable solution.
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2374&Ver=4 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=205&MId=2374&Ver=4)

Text from minutes:
 
Code Ref: 0/37711 - Demolition of Existing Toilet Block and Erection of Replacement Portable Toilet Block, Caffi Cais, Coach Park, Mostyn Broadway, Llandudno

Minutes:

An addendum to the report was presented, highlighting the primary considerations of the application i.e. the desirability of preserving or enhancing the character or appearance of the Conservation Area and the desirability of preserving the setting of the adjoining Listed Buildings.
 
Members considered the type of portable structure being proposed as inappropriate for a Conservation Area and for the delivery of tourism.  However, Members recognised the need for such a provision, but with improved design/structure.  As a consequence, the Committee were minded to refuse planning permission, but grant delegated authority to the Development and Building Control Manager to determine a revised application for an improved design of toilet block.
 
RESOLVED:-
(a)   That the Planning Committee be minded to refuse planning permission.
 
(b)  That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine the application under delegation.
 
(c)   That the Development and Building Control Manager be authorised to determine any re-submitted proposal/application under delegation.
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 21, 2011, 10:28:12 pm
 :( What a load of rubbish,the coach park is in a back street and is looking over the back of Parc Llandudno,its just a plan,like Llandudno station to not spend the money as its all going into Colwyn,it stinks. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 21, 2011, 11:30:32 pm
Indeed, it seems that the inclination is always to BLOCK doing something... rather than commit TO doing something.

Why was there no resolution to make a deadline for this so called IMPROVED proposal?

Nothing focus's the attention like a deadline.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 22, 2011, 09:58:38 am
Funding has been approved for the Alice In Wonderland Town Trail at a cost of £90,000:

The connection between Alice in Wonderland and Llandudno is well
known.  The proposal consists of a number of features which start from
the Llandudno Promenade, leading up the Happy Valley, finally ending at
the entrance of the Alice in Wonderland garden trail.  This will offer a
number of opportunities ranging from family outings, educational trips,
both formal and informal, and enhancement of the visitor experience,
which in turn plays an integral part of supporting the local economy. 

The proposal consists of installing the following elements:

Mosaic panels depicting Alice in Wonderland characters designed
by  pupils from Ysgol y Gogarth will be fixed to structures in
Llandudno Bay, Llandudno Promenade and Happy Valley Park.

Five large wooden carvings depicting Alice, the Queen of Hearts,
the Mad Hatter, the White Rabbit and the Caterpillar will be
positioned around Llandudno, with some set into existing
flowerbeds and enhanced by appropriate bedding.  Each carving
will ‘signpost’ on to the next feature.

A Victorian bandstand will be built as a new feature, consisting of
balustrade panels featuring characters such as the Dodo, Playing
Card, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Walrus and Caterpillar. 
This feature will enable opportunities for schools and local groups
to practice instrumental performances.

A floral clock will provide a major feature, depicting the White
Rabbit’s pocket watch, created on the Llandudno Promenade.  The
clock will measure approximately 2 metres, it will be designed to
generate solar energy to power the GRP timing mechanism,
ensuring the clock continues to offer the correct time all year round.   

In order that people are encouraged to follow the trail from the
promenade to the Alice in Wonderland garden trail, a series of
cement rabbit paw prints will be embedded, and small arrow signs
will lead to the next feature.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 24, 2011, 07:08:48 pm
 ;) Very wet at the moment but we are promised some sun,whoopee L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 25, 2011, 04:40:17 pm
 :) Bonkers fun center opening soon,old church ,Abbey rd,it will be somewhere for kids in the rain. :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 25, 2011, 04:48:46 pm
Bonkers fun center opening soon
It's been open for years, Wrex, we call it the Town Hall.  :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on June 25, 2011, 05:52:45 pm
or Bodlondeb  _))*
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Post by: Trojan on June 25, 2011, 06:18:34 pm
 L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 26, 2011, 01:39:05 pm
 :D Dave i expect that from Yorkie not you.You now as well as i do they really want to improve Llandudno, but hav;nt got a clue. L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2011, 01:40:45 pm
It's the hottest day of the year so far (24degrees) and a cold beer outside the Fat Cat is very pleasant.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 26, 2011, 03:12:17 pm
:D Dave i expect that from Yorkie not you.You now as well as i do they really want to improve Llandudno, but hav;nt got a clue. L0L

Just remember Wrex that it also gave you a lot of entertaining evenings!     _))*   _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 26, 2011, 03:38:01 pm
 ;)WITH THE TWO OLD MEN AT THE END LIKE THOSE TWO OFF THE MUPPETS DO YOU MEAN. L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 26, 2011, 03:48:13 pm
Just the two of could have done a better job that the few who did turn up!     $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on June 26, 2011, 03:53:18 pm
Just had this alert on facebook

If anybody knows where a 7 year old boy called Elliot is please notify police straight away, he went missing from Llandudno beach 30 mins ago, he has green tshirt and shorts on and a cap with monster on it. That's all I know sorry. Pls copy this as your status if ur local. Thanks.

updated now he has been found by police :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: tangodude on June 29, 2011, 07:29:45 am
Just spent a pleasant break in Llandudno. The weather helps, of course, but it is one of my favorite seaside towns. It is showing the effects of the recession, with more than a few empty shops in the town centre, but it still has a lot going for it. Some great pubs - the Kings Arms, the Queen Victoria, the Cottage Loaf........and I had a great meal at the Lilly on West Shore. No gripes, really, although 2.50 to drive round the Orme came as a bit of a shock.

As locals, you probably don't appreciate what you've got, which is one of the best resorts in the UK. Don't knock it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 29, 2011, 08:46:12 am
No gripes, really, although 2.50 to drive round the Orme came as a bit of a shock.

Most people are quite happy to pay the £2.50 Toll to enjoy one of the most interesting experiences that Llandudno has to offer.    Marine Drive has been a Toll Road since 1878 or thereabouts and all the income is ringfenced and used to maintain the facility.   The Toll Fee also covers parking charges at the Summit so one does get double value.

If you have a relative buried on the Orme, the Council issue a Cemetery Pass free of charge to relatives of the intered person.  Annual Season Tickets are also available at a very reasonable cost.

If one's desire is ONLY to drive round, then many would still consider the fee good value.  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2011, 10:45:50 pm
I noticed today that the flower display at the Boulevard roundabout had been reduced in size by about 70% and the rest of the area grassed over. Looks pretty rubbish now.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2011, 11:00:41 pm
  Annual Season Tickets are also available at a very reasonable cost.


How do I get one of those?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 01, 2011, 08:44:34 am
http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/ (http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/)

Good luck to them hope it's very successful
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2011, 08:48:22 am
http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/ (http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/)

Good luck to them hope it's very successful
Yes, hope they do well.  ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on July 01, 2011, 01:19:55 pm
I'll definitely be  giving a try! (with the Grandchildren!)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on July 01, 2011, 02:50:55 pm
  Annual Season Tickets are also available at a very reasonable cost.


How do I get one of those?

Contact Parking Services at CCBC. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2011, 05:09:00 pm
I went past the Coach Park earlier and it was good to see that the cafe was looking very smart, a most definite improvement. The people working in the cafe have not started tidying up all the flower beds around the coach park as well and are  doing a very good job.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 02, 2011, 07:37:53 am
The sun is shining on Heaven today. Z**
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Post by: Nemesis on July 02, 2011, 04:38:10 pm
Who's he??? ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 02, 2011, 04:48:32 pm
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 06:05:34 pm
Another beautiful day in Llandudno:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5159/5894526350_f77abb8a4a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5894526350/)
Yachts in the Bay (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5894526350/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barbiroli on July 02, 2011, 06:10:17 pm
Lovely photo Dave, We are so lucky to live in a place like this.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 02, 2011, 06:56:21 pm
I agree, but it is just a pity that we can't enjoy it!   I tried to park in town today to take a stroll along the prom and despite having a blue badge I found it impossible to park anywhere.  After a fruitless search for a space we came home and sat in the garden!   

Game, set and match to the tourists!    8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 02, 2011, 09:40:04 pm
Great photo Dave. Were you afloat to take it?
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Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2011, 10:07:59 pm
Great photo Dave. Were you afloat to take it?
Thank you. It would have been very pleasant to have been in a boat today but I was just on the beach by the paddling pool using a zoom lens.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on July 02, 2011, 11:00:48 pm
Great pic, good view of the Orme in the background right up to Bay View Terrace with Llwynon Rd going up to the left.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 02, 2011, 11:18:39 pm
Indeed, one of those blissful evenings in the bay tonight.

Where it is calm and still enough for people to enjoy a night on thier boats anchored in the bay, and the sunset is beautiful against the Little Orme.

My camera phone at 10pm tonight can't really do it justice, but you get the general idea.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 12:17:28 am
Fester and I saw this odd chap on the Prom by the Cenotaph. He was dancing away, waving his tambourine about and either singing or shouting. Was he performing or just a touch loopy?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 03, 2011, 12:21:36 am
I maintain that he was definitely insane... apart from the tambourine and the ridiculous prancing,   he had an Elvis T-shirt under a tweed jacket,  and the worst comb-over I have seen in 20 years.

He definitely should not have been out on his own.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 03, 2011, 12:42:35 am
Hair in the community?
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Post by: TheMedz on July 03, 2011, 12:53:20 am
We must have out there about 15 minutes before you. We had just been for a fabulous meal at East for the second week running.(visits home from 2 sons = 2 excuses for taking them out for a meal!)  I recommend the crispy duck in Plum Sauce
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2011, 05:59:09 am
Fester and I saw this odd chap on the Prom by the Cenotaph. He was dancing away, waving his tambourine about and either singing or shouting. Was he performing or just a touch loopy?

Anyone got a video of him?  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2011, 08:54:32 am

Fester and I saw this odd chap on the Prom by the Cenotaph. He was dancing away, waving his tambourine about and either singing or shouting. Was he performing or just a touch loopy?

I think he was just a happy chappy - pity more people aren't like this, it would brighten up an otherwise troubled World! 

Maybe I should get out there with my Kilt and bagpipes!    L0L   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on July 03, 2011, 12:08:40 pm
I maintain that he was definitely insane... apart from the tambourine and the ridiculous prancing,   he had an Elvis T-shirt under a tweed jacket,  and the worst comb-over I have seen in 20 years.

He definitely should not have been out on his own.

was he actually doing himself or anyone else any harm?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 03, 2011, 03:10:28 pm
This must be his Dad    L0L

Praise God with Timbrel and Dance hr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwzhTlDnss#)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 06:14:01 pm
Another glorious day, and an opportunity for me to highlight the shameful situation of the LLANDUDNO letters in Happy Valley that are viewed by tens of thousands of people every year from the Pier covered with concrete instead of colourful flowers.

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5271/5897953230_36c989a6a5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5897953230/)
LLANDUDNO (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5897953230/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 03, 2011, 06:27:41 pm
Were you down at the other end of the prom Dave? There were some excellent cars to look at !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 07:39:20 pm
I missed them, unfortunately, as I was on the boat trip that goes round the Bay. I did see all the Scooters that were by the Cenotaph.

Boat Trip to Little Orme:
1) A look at Villa Marina from the sea.
2) Close up look at the Elephant's head on the Little Orme
3) Angel Bay from the sea
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 08:04:37 pm
One of the customised Lambrettas on the Prom this afternoon:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2011, 08:28:04 pm
A tale of two towns....

Two photos are attached to this post; the first one shows the seafront gardens at Llandudno this week. The second shows the seafront gardens at another seaside resort, Eastbourne, this week. Can anyone spot any discernible difference in the effort the respective local councils make?  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2011, 08:48:30 pm
A tale of two towns....

Two photos are attached to this post; the first one shows the seafront gardens at Llandudno this week. The second shows the seafront gardens at another seaside resort, Eastbourne, this week. Can anyone spot any discernible difference in the effort the respective local councils make?  _))*

Embarrasing really :-[  I wonder how the two towns parks and gardens budgets compare?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2011, 08:54:39 pm
Were you down at the other end of the prom Dave? There were some excellent cars to look at !

I was there 8) 

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030049.jpg)

This Triumph Vitesse had very shiny paint!
(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030045.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030036.jpg)

There was also a trailer enthusiasts meeting going on (er indoors made me put this on! I think it was something to do with the sailing dingys :laugh: )


(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030057.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 04, 2011, 12:58:30 am
There was also a trailer enthusiasts meeting going on (er indoors made me put this on! I think it was something to do with the sailing dingys :laugh: )

 L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 04, 2011, 01:08:47 am
I can see your Mrs in the shiny bonnet.... but I can't see you taking the picture!

Where you off further up the prom, dancing with your tambourine?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2011, 06:27:57 am
I can see your Mrs in the shiny bonnet.... but I can't see you taking the picture!

Where you off further up the prom, dancing with your tambourine?



 L0L  no I'd forgotten my tambourine yesterday  ; :P  I carefully lined myself up with the central bonnet strip when I took the picture  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 04, 2011, 08:08:56 am
Quote
Can anyone spot any discernible difference in the effort the respective local councils make?

What's also interesting is that the two towns probably attract a very similar demographic .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 04, 2011, 09:15:33 am
Were you down at the other end of the prom Dave? There were some excellent cars to look at !

I was there 8) 

You don't say ! Glad you didn't get me in your pics ! And you actually met Clive !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 04, 2011, 09:22:42 am
I can see your Mrs in the shiny bonnet.... but I can't see you taking the picture!

Where you off further up the prom, dancing with your tambourine?



 L0L  no I'd forgotten my tambourine yesterday  ; :P  I carefully lined myself up with the central bonnet strip when I took the picture  ;D

Have you been on a diet?  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 04, 2011, 09:24:06 am
Doesn't need to ! He can easily hide behind the bonnet strip.
 That is meant as a compliment M.E.!! ;D _))*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2011, 09:25:39 am
Have you been on a diet?  :o
   

No never been on a diet in my life  D)   it was just the way the relections worked  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2011, 09:27:38 am
Doesn't need to ! He can easily hide behind the bonnet strip.
 That is meant as a compliment M.E.!! ;D _))*

You would be amazed how much I eat to stay thin  L0L  $dins$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 04, 2011, 10:19:10 am
Just spotted Huw Edwards being filmed on the Tram up the Orme. Has anyone any ideas of any forthcoming TV series he might be making, that we can look out for?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on July 04, 2011, 12:06:13 pm
Thanks so much for all the beautiful photos. you post Dave you've got such a good eye - the other ones probably good too.

Yesterday morning, Sunday, I walked round the Marine Drive as it was so warm and beautiful.  So quiet and the water still ,well apart from the mechanised arm chairs whizzing above my head and those stupid little speed boat thingys.  I pity anyone living in Llys Helig Drive with all the racket going on.

I did my best impression of a police man and stepped out in front of a car which was going the wrong way along Marine Drive - above the gun sight before the houses start.  He ground to a halt and I said - he was English in his 50's - didn't you see the huge No Entry signs you are going the wrong way.  You'll get killed.  He said petulantly well how do you get round don't tell me we've got to drive through Llandudno?  I told him to reverse which he wouldn't do.  Luckily two cars came up behind me and were laughing at him.  So he then tried in his long open top Mercedes to do a 29 point turn and you know how wide the road is.  His wife told him to stop pratting around.  Where can I turn he growled.  Down there where it says No Entry I said.  men honestly.....!
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Post by: Blodyn on July 04, 2011, 01:18:10 pm
Well done, Llechwedd!
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Post by: dwsi on July 04, 2011, 08:55:51 pm
Just spotted Huw Edwards being filmed on the Tram up the Orme. Has anyone any ideas of any forthcoming TV series he might be making, that we can look out for?

He is currently filming 'The Story Of Wales' for the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2011/06_june/23/wales.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2011/06_june/23/wales.shtml)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 04, 2011, 09:58:09 pm
Thanks dwsi.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2011, 10:59:04 pm
We saw a great sunset on Sunday evening

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P7030003.jpg)
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Post by: Blodyn on July 04, 2011, 11:06:42 pm
Lovely picture, Merddin Emrys. 
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Post by: DaveR on July 05, 2011, 08:12:38 am
Nice one, ME!  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 05, 2011, 09:32:48 am
Where has the pier gone?  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2011, 09:47:13 am
Where has the pier gone?  :laugh:

it's disa 'pier' ed  L0L

Fester ate it after his hunger strike became too much $dins$  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 05, 2011, 09:47:34 am
Where has the pier gone?  :laugh:
Didn't you know? It's been sold to the Chinese and they have had it disassembled and shipped over to Fangcheng...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 05, 2011, 09:55:42 am
Where has the pier gone?  :laugh:
Didn't you know? It's been sold to the Chinese and they have had it disassembled and shipped over to Fangcheng...

 :o There's a large black market in imported piers at the moment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 06, 2011, 03:58:23 pm
 ;)Iloved Daves picture comparing Llandudno and Eastbourne,just goes to show what commitment there is to tourism,were ever they can stop cutting grass or get rid of a few more flower beds then they will.the best example is the Llandudno sign in the Happy Valley,lets hope the FOTHV get flowers back in there for next year. Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 06, 2011, 11:30:12 pm
;)Iloved Daves picture comparing Llandudno and Eastbourne,just goes to show what commitment there is to tourism,were ever they can stop cutting grass or get rid of a few more flower beds then they will.the best example is the Llandudno sign in the Happy Valley,lets hope the FOTHV get flowers back in there for next year. Z**

Bring back Llandudno Urban District Council!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on July 07, 2011, 11:29:15 pm
Earlier this evening at Deganwy, sorry its a bit small, it's from my phone
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 08, 2011, 08:22:15 am
Just come back from walking the dog up past the back of The Orme Golf (no 1 hole) and there are two tents pitched on the fairway. Has Mike got side line going on? I noticed the other morning around 20-25 goats (i tried to count them they kept moving) saves mowing it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 08, 2011, 09:01:33 am
The goats are going soft these days if they've started sleeping in tents. I do hope the tents are not the solution achieved to solve another Orme resident's short term accommodation problems for his builders :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 08, 2011, 09:29:17 am
The goats are going soft these days if they've started sleeping in tents. I do hope the tents are not the solution achieved to solve another Orme resident's short term accommodation problems for his builders :)
L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on July 08, 2011, 08:48:06 pm
Two tents around the first hole?  h u dont know     anthing    about  t h   a$t.  S orry a out typing. Some frechgus  f orsed    a  bottle of    n ce french  w ne o n 2 me this a m
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on July 08, 2011, 09:13:44 pm
 ZXZ ;D Love it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 08, 2011, 09:41:51 pm
The goats are going soft these days if they've started sleeping in tents. I do hope the tents are not the solution achieved to solve another Orme resident's short term accommodation problems for his builders :)

Hmmm... stop giving me ideas!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 10, 2011, 09:53:49 am
Llandudno Swimming Pool  $angry$

What a bloody mess! Fester will appreciate this, booked up from 12pm until 9pm for a "Swimming party" then "Swimming gala"
Apart from my own annoyance at paying £30 a month and not being able to swim on what should be a peak day - I also saw in the 45 minutes or so I was at the gym tons of people going in and walking straight back out obviously beingtold they couldn't swim.

Who the hell decides it's acceptable to book out a PUBLIC swimming pool for a private party on one of the busiest saturdays of the year??
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2011, 04:44:22 pm
Sad to see a spate of sudden hotel closures this week. Two have shut their doors, with a third on the brink. Tough times for the small hotelier.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 10, 2011, 05:13:16 pm
Sad to see a spate of sudden hotel closures this week. Two have shut their doors, with a third on the brink. Tough times for the small hotelier.  :(

Not in Llandudno, but not that far away!

'A chain of hotels run by businesswoman Stephanie Booth has gone into administration.

The development with Llangollen Hotels has led to the immediate closure of the Wynnstay Arms in Wrexham and the Fantastic Fun Houses in Mold and Wrexham.'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-14066043 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-14066043)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2011, 05:25:49 pm
Makes you wonder how she would have got the money to buy Wrexham Football Club if her bid had been successful...?  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 10, 2011, 06:31:50 pm
must be why she pulled out of it, perhaps?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on July 10, 2011, 07:44:32 pm
The Anchor in Ruthin was open yesterday -  in fact the hotel side was full. Very quiet in the pub though, but that could have been due to ten local village pubs putting on the "Route 76" Beer festival by bus.  - or the fact that the BBC and the Daily Post had reported it to have closed. They have got plenty of bookings for the forseeable future, including a regular coachload from Russia.

The Wild Pheasant in Llangollen is still open, -(lovely hotel and they do good deals for spa days)  both are owned outright, the other businesses were leased.

They sold off the Castle Hotel Ruthin to JD Wetherspoons some time ago, but it remains empty and boarded up - which is very much an eyesore given its prominent position on the town Square  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 11, 2011, 12:21:26 am
Having spent a lot of time in Ruthin, I am surprised that Wethersoons took the Castle Hotel Pub.

It was never a busy enough area (even at weekends) to merit a large chain pub, which requires to order in food and drink in bulk.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on July 11, 2011, 05:23:06 pm
they were going to turn it into a pub and hotel, which is needed in Ruthin - Only the Anchor, Ruthin Castle and one or two   B&B's provide accommodation at present. The Castle is always busy at weekends with weddings, and the Anchor often accommodate wedding guests from the castle and the regular influx of Russians.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 11, 2011, 07:27:06 pm
Just spotted the Royal Scotsman parked up in Llandudno. Fabulous train currently on a tour of Great Britain. Just look at the prices!

http://www.royalscotsman.com/web/rs/journeys/4_131550.jsp (http://www.royalscotsman.com/web/rs/journeys/4_131550.jsp)

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Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 09:10:47 am
Trams and cruise ships - The future of tourism in Conwy
by David Powell, DPW West Jul 12 2011
 
TRAMS, cruise ships and seagull-proof bins are all part of a major masterplan to revitalise tourism in an area where the industry is worth £600m.

Councillors will today be asked to back a “Destination Conwy” action plan aimed at drawing in visitors to spend money in the county.

One of the key proposals is to commission a feasibility study into whether it is possible to bring back traditional style trams to the county’s resorts.

The idea is they could be used by commuters and tourists, although no proposed routes have yet been decided.


The plan also wants a study to look at repairing and re-instating Llandudno Pier’s docking facility to be able to handle 700-passenger pleasure cruise ships from Liverpool and other ports. It could be used by the Waverley and Balmoral vessels, Isle of Man boats or coastal cruises, but Llandudno couldn’t take the large liners which berth at Holyhead.

Another task is to fit bird proof flaps to all litter bins and promote a “Do Not Feed the Seagulls” publicity campaign, in a bid to clean up the streets. Other schemes include improving the urban “evening economy”, and promoting the county’s “All The Little Shops” project to boost retailers, scrapping eyesore buildings, sprucing up public toilets in Llandudno, Conwy and Betws y Coed, and devising a register of approved street performers.

The plan also aims to develop “Sport Tourism”, particularly focusing on golf, mountain biking, cycling, rugby, walking and sailing.

And it includes boosting the profile of heritage sites like Conwy Castle and the Great Orme gun site artillery centre.

If approved, Conwy will work on the changes with a 15-member steering group made up of tourism operators.

Jim Jones, Conwy’s coastal community development spokesman, said the Council wants to work in partnership with the tourism industry.

Tourism already generates £600m a year in Conwy and employs 10,820 people in a county which has 70,000 bed spaces – that’s some 24% of the North Wales stock.

Conwy now has a destination manager, George Brookes, a destination development officer and a destination marketing officer. Mr Brookes will be a point of contact between the authority, tourism operators and the public.

Another task will be to keep records of “bed availability” across the county’s hotels and B&Bs. The council wants to encourage more people to use tourism trails throughout the county and wants to see more parks and coastal reserves cleaned up to get Green and Blue Flag status. It is also planning better tourism signage and more interactive information boards to be fitted at Tourist Information Centres.

Conwy’s Cabinet will be reminded in a report today that a lack of co-ordination was highlighted by the Welsh Audit Office in 2002. Officers tried to improve but only had “limited success”. An officer’s report will say that any lack of support for tourism this year could dent “potential benefits and growth” of the £600m-a-year industry.

North Wales Tourism spokesman Chris Jackson, also administrative director of the Welsh Mountain Zoo, welcomed the plan, but added: “We would like a harmonised approach with all the local authorities in North Wales so visitors enjoy consistently high standards.”

Full PDF document is here (9mb): http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000171/M00002707/AI00025273/AppendixBEnglishDestinationDocument.pdf (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/Published/C00000171/M00002707/AI00025273/AppendixBEnglishDestinationDocument.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 12, 2011, 10:11:43 am
Wouldn't it cost a fortune to create a tram network surely better ways to spend money to increase trade? I have friends who come over to Llandudno and Conwy to visit from all part of the UK, but mainly from the Manchester area. They all say the same thing after 6pm the town centres shut down so they all go home or back to their hotels/B&Bs. I had family who spent an hour looking for an ice cream after 5:30 and gave up in the end. Conwy county needs a better plans than this we need to be bringing in a better range of tourists, like young families, younger day & evening trippers maybe create a festive like local music or jazz/blues. I can't get excited about this plans seems like same old same old. :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 10:31:52 am
I agree; any sort of Tram system would cost many millions and would be unfeasible given how busy modern roads are. How about hiring a  fleet of vintage buses and having a scenic route from Conwy to Colwyn Bay via Llandudno instead?
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Post by: dingo20 on July 12, 2011, 10:38:01 am
What happened to the road train in Conwy? Did they bloc k it
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Post by: Ian on July 12, 2011, 11:10:11 am
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Wouldn't it cost a fortune to create a tram network surely better ways to spend money to increase trade?

It would cost quite a bit - probably the same as the sea defence works in Colwyn Bay - but there's something quite special about riding in trams, and wherever they've been reintroduced in the UK they've become tourist attractions in their own right.  However, tracks could be relaid along Gloddaeth Ave, then the prom - a la Blackpool - then through Bodafon fields.  The only real issue would be the hill between Llandudno and Penrhyn Beach, and that could simply be single track, running at the centre of the downhill lane, thus allowing traffic to co-exist.  Once at the bootom, it would return to the the prom, for the length to Old Colwyn.

There would be some inconvenience to cars, certainly, but it would go a long way to reinforcing the more sedate pace of life in the area and I'd bet it would bring in quite a lot of visitors. .

If someone suggested building it now, the nay-sayers would say that the Great Orme tram was a non starter, but just look at how that brings people in.
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Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 11:24:32 am
It would cost quite a bit
Probably the understatement of the month!  WWW  Light rail systems cost a minimum of $15m (so say £10m) a MILE. You're looking at over £100m easily, and possibly much more. Remember the reason the original Tramway isn't still around is because it went bust due to competition from buses.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 12, 2011, 11:52:11 am
to think, there used to be a great tramway here and in the good old days of the Llandudno Urban District Council great rides on great old buses (Marine Drive and the Circular tour) I like DaveR's  idea of hiring vintage buses, it could combine with the current Marine Drive Tour  D)

Where did it all go wrong?....   (still a great place though! :) )
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 12, 2011, 01:41:09 pm
The delivery of water to the standing steam train yesterday has badly damaged the station platform.
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Post by: Ian on July 12, 2011, 02:40:41 pm
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Light rail systems cost a minimum of $15m (so say £10m) a MILE.

That's assuming land purchasing - the biggest element - ground levelling and much more.  A local tramway could operate on the proms and public highway, which would slash the capital investment required, plus the fact that Tram systems - although incurring initially higher capital costs than buses - recoup this through greater reliability, prolonged life and passenger attraction.  Can't imagine too many making a special trip to Llandudno to ride a bus....  WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 06:29:19 pm
Hmmm...how many towns of Llandudno's size have had a tram system built in the last 50 years?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2011, 06:36:02 pm
Two things I noticed in town today...the Cashpoint at Lloyds Bank was out of action and it looked as though it had been attacked, the bit where the cash comes out was melted away. Secondly, there seems to be a Lifeboat launching trial taking place next to the Paddling Pool.
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Post by: Ian on July 12, 2011, 06:48:46 pm
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Hmmm...how many towns of Llandudno's size have had a tram system built in the last 50 years?

Good reason to start the ball rolling...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 12, 2011, 08:39:00 pm
Two things I noticed in town today...the Cashpoint at Lloyds Bank was out of action and it looked as though it had been attacked, the bit where the cash comes out was melted away. Secondly, there seems to be a Lifeboat launching trial taking place next to the Paddling Pool.

I saw the destroyed cashpoint too, all burnt out.....  there was a sign attached saying ''out of order''   The most pointless sign in the history of the world I thought.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 12, 2011, 11:13:44 pm
I saw the destroyed cashpoint too, all burnt out.....  there was a sign attached saying ''out of order''   The most pointless sign in the history of the world I thought.


how about this one?
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Post by: hollins on July 14, 2011, 04:01:21 pm
Absolutely gorgeous and if anyone knows how to keep this beautiful weather for the next two days I would be most grateful!
My sister is staying in Llandudno for the weekend to clebrate her 20th wedding anniversary.
Fingers crossed but the forecast is bad.
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Post by: wrex on July 14, 2011, 04:08:59 pm
 ;) Im of to Sandwich for the open golf, so when i get back i expect the water feature in the happy valley to be working, the flower beds that CCBC have left to have been weeded, the Arena to be booked up with gigs and at least one shop to have been occupied.I can dream. :-*
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Post by: Hugo on July 14, 2011, 04:21:05 pm
There was a lot of activity with the lifeboat going on just beyond the paddling pool on the Promenade today. I didn't stay there long enough to find out what exactly was going on but noticed that there were a number of prominent signs in that area of the prom that said there was to be no parking there on Saturday and Sunday.    ???
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Post by: Hugo on July 14, 2011, 04:26:37 pm
Saw a repeat on BBC 2 last night of the Great British Railway Journeys and it covered Llandudno.  Excellent filming of Llandudno but a pity about the Railway Station which is an eyesore.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2011, 04:58:09 pm
Hugo, I am sure I read somewhere they were carrying out a test over at Craigside I suspect for a new lifeboat station.

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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2011, 05:08:11 pm
Yes, it has been a beautiful day again.

We strolled down the promenade and then the pier stopping off for a coffee.

I did something what I have been meaning to do for while and timed the little kiddies’ balloon ride on the pier and noticed for £1.50 per kiddie and the ride always lasts 2 minutes and 45 seconds before cutting off

The speed boat from the jetty lasted 7 minutes and cost only £4 per person.

After having been on the sped boat for the first time earlier this month I would definitely recommend it.

Next, my first trip on the cable cars.    ;D

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Post by: Pendragon on July 14, 2011, 05:50:55 pm
Oooh Bri I went on those cable cars a few years ago and the kids thought it was funny to rock the car..............needless to say I haven't been on them again nor will I.   ;D  Not even I'm that brave.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 14, 2011, 05:55:32 pm
Re the lifeboat
Flying_Shannon.MPG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBcTXJ7UGVg#)
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Post by: Fester on July 14, 2011, 11:00:29 pm
Oooh Bri I went on those cable cars a few years ago and the kids thought it was funny to rock the car..............needless to say I haven't been on them again nor will I.   ;D  Not even I'm that brave.

The Cable Car is a fantastic ride, its blissful on a day like this.... and well worth the £7.00 return fare.
Think of it as £3.50,  for a brilliant ride, and same again to get back down.

I wish it would operate more often, I only get chance to ride it a couple of times a year... but I have been on it a couple of times in the last two weeks.
Thats probably it for me until next year, unfortunately.
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Post by: Blodyn on July 15, 2011, 12:21:14 am
A few years ago my mother and I had a ride up in the cablecar with a sandbag for company.  I think that the wind must have been borderline for operating and the sandbag was to stabilise the cablecar if empty. 

When we were children, my sister and I used to urge our father to "Look how high up we are, Daddy!"  He disliked heights and didn't have much inclination to look down.  However, if you don't mind heights it's a lovely rides, as Fester says, and it's so quiet. 
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Post by: Trojan on July 15, 2011, 01:04:57 am
There was a lot of activity with the lifeboat going on just beyond the paddling pool on the Promenade today.

Do they have a new tractor? I have not seen that one before.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2011, 09:45:38 pm
There was a lot of activity with the lifeboat going on just beyond the paddling pool on the Promenade today.

Do they have a new tractor? I have not seen that one before.  :)
It's a new one they're testing. I think it's also to see if a Lifeboat can be launched successfully at that point, to see if a Lifeboat Station there may be feasible.
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2011, 09:46:29 pm
Due to the torrential rain all day today, the Triathlon was not quite the crowd puller that was hoped for:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 17, 2011, 10:36:58 pm
DaveR, as a result of the bad weather, I have an idea today's triathlon was eventually only a duathlon. 
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2011, 10:38:02 pm
I believe the swim was cancelled but they did an additional run instead.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 18, 2011, 03:13:01 am
I only quoted what I heard over the tannoy when I drove past late morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 18, 2011, 12:08:35 pm
There was an attempt earlier today to steal the cash machine at Carmens Convenience Store in Craig Y Don. Lots of police activity there at the moment.
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Post by: Micox on July 18, 2011, 06:02:57 pm
Well if it's convenient, it's convenient!  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on July 19, 2011, 11:18:30 am
Courtesy of Tudno Fm's Twitter:

If you had Wedding Photos, family portraits etc, taken by Image Gallery Photographers formerly of Upper Mostyn st, Llandudno and have not been able to collect them due the shop closing, please Inbox TudnoFM as the landlord has found quite a lot and is happy for people to collect them!

I understand the Photographers vacated the premises in something of a hurry a few months ago and decided to take the carpet and electric sockets with them. Nice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 20, 2011, 08:09:35 am
  :-[   So Mr Williams of the Hospitality Assoc has spoken up and what has he come up with,Llandudno needs a multi-story car park,who would spend millions in Llandudno on a car park ,hope someone tells him there is a new car park going on the station .Now Mr Williams why don;t you bring up your utter disgust at the Pier Pavillion fiasco as the chief of Llandudno;s tourist assoc instead of bleating on about a non starter,the whole town is run by BAFOONS.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 20, 2011, 09:37:41 am
Why does he think we need another car park? Don't we have one in the centre of town plus the new one at the station plus the two car parks at Moyston Champs and the B&Q retail park (can't think of the name). I think he needs to get his head from up his own backside and represent his members, what a plonker!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 20, 2011, 11:52:07 am
I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 20, 2011, 07:47:51 pm
  :-[   So Mr Williams of the Hospitality Assoc has spoken up and what has he come up with,Llandudno needs a multi-story car park,who would spend millions in Llandudno on a car park ,hope someone tells him there is a new car park going on the station .   

I think we have known since the year dot that Llandudno needs to do something about its traffic problem.  More parking is not the answer.  Parking outside of the town is what we need.   Park and Ride has been spoken of but to my mind not with enough thought.

Llandudno is not the only place with a traffic and parking problem, Colwyn Bay has a lesser problem and Conwy has an increasing problem.

I think a Park and Ride could be set up (and more important a viable solution) by having a P & R system to service all three areas with a circular journey in both directions.   All that is required is a suitable piece of land within the triangle of the Three Towns, such as the strip alongside the A470 between the Junction and  Llandudno.

It could be called the Three Towns Park and Ride!!!   ZXZ   What does everybody else think?   WWW
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Post by: SDQ on July 20, 2011, 09:35:35 pm
It would have to be linked to the A55 somewhere central so what about one of the fields around the Mochdre area?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 21, 2011, 12:26:55 am
First, I think that more needs to be built and created to give people a reason to bring their cars here...

Before you build more carparks, build more attractions!

The amount of signs in hotel windows saying 'VACANCIES' in July is pretty alarming.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2011, 09:25:50 am

The amount of signs in hotel windows saying 'VACANCIES' in July is pretty alarming.


One of the reasons for this is that since the completion of the A55 Expressway and the M56 Llandudno has become within the day trip limit from as far away as Birmingham and Sheffield etc.   The increase in day trip coach traffic over the past years has been a testament to this.

Irrespective of vacancies in hotels the traffic problem still exists.  Before increasing this problem by attracting more visitors we have to ensure that the infrastructure is in place to cope with the numbers!   Also Llandudno is a centre for tourism in North Wales and it is not just local attractions that bring people here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 09:38:40 am
Before we spend all this money, it's worth nothing that car journeys are actually falling in response to high fuel prices. 30% of drivers have cut down on longer car journeys. This is a trend that can surely only continue as oil supplies diminish? Perhaps we should be thinking about building a bigger Railway Station instead?  ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2011, 10:19:14 am
Before we spend all this money, it's worth nothing that car journeys are actually falling in response to high fuel prices. 30% of drivers have cut down on longer car journeys. This is a trend that can surely only continue as oil supplies diminish? Perhaps we should be thinking about building a bigger Railway Station instead?  ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089)

I somewhat agree with what you say but for a family of 4 it is still much cheaper (and more convenent) to travel by car!   Before the railway comes back into its own, people will have to change their mentality about having a door to door service!    ;)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 21, 2011, 10:42:53 am
Park and ride seems like a good idea what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester which stop at all the tram and rail way stations and the main attractions within the city. You could extend this to Colwyn Bay and Rhyl which would encourage the need for people not to use their cars. With families you can get a family rail card which is about £ 10 (this could've gone up) this give 2 for 1 on some tickets. What about a taxi pick up linked in with the hotel / B&B's deals they offer. I did see one hotel in Colwyn Bay that offers a home pick up drop off and day trips using their own vehicles, good idea? Add a suppliment to cover fuel?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 10:50:48 am
Many people are not aware of a scheme called Groupsave, whereby 3 or 4 people can travel by train for the price of 2. Applies to any destination in the UK, single or return.

"GroupSave offers the opportunity for three or four people (minimum one adult) to travel for the price that two adults would normally pay on various off-peak ticket types. Up to four additional children can accompany the main party, and travel at the flat fare of £1 each, single or return (not valid on ScotRail). In addition two children under the age of five can travel free of charge with each fare paying passenger."

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/promotions/pr354fdc0a0400020101fea1769fbf60/details.html (http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/promotions/pr354fdc0a0400020101fea1769fbf60/details.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 10:53:52 am
I somewhat agree with what you say but for a family of 4 it is still much cheaper (and more convenent) to travel by car!   Before the railway comes back into its own, people will have to change their mentality about having a door to door service!    ;)



It will be along time before I'm forced out of using cars (probably never!), I love travelling in my own space and don't forget two thirds of the petrol price is tax  :rage: :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 11:07:49 am
There's always the Segway....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on July 21, 2011, 11:12:20 am
What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 12:01:25 pm
There's always the Segway....

As I said just the other day, I'd love a go on one of them  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 12:05:51 pm
What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey

there's an idea, remove the horse from the trap and fit an engine! wonder if anyone's tried that yet?  ^*^0
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 21, 2011, 12:24:26 pm
What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey

there's an idea, remove the horse from the trap and fit an engine! wonder if anyone's tried that yet?  ^*^0

Yes they have. It was called a Horseless Carriage. The forerunner of the modern motor car.  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 12:43:00 pm
There's always the Segway....

As I said just the other day, I'd love a go on one of them  :laugh:
Just looking at their UK website. The main model, the i2, has a 24 mile range and top speed of 12.5mph. Would be ideal for the cycle track along the Prom!
http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5 (http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 21, 2011, 01:07:55 pm
I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 21, 2011, 01:20:39 pm
I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
I now understand that the refusal of Planning Permission applies not just to the proposed lighting but to the signage itself.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 21, 2011, 01:52:23 pm
I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
I now understand that the refusal of Planning Permission applies not just to the proposed lighting but to the signage itself.

What's wrong with the sinage?  :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 01:54:27 pm
[]
Just looking at their UK website. The main model, the i2, has a 24 mile range and top speed of 12.5mph. Would be ideal for the cycle track along the Prom!
http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5 (http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5)

I can't get that page to load up for some reason, I still can't see why they are not legal here, when disabled buggies are allowed

'The Highway Act of 1835 renders the Segway PT illegal in the UK on pavements. They cannot be used where bicycles can (even electric bicycles) because they do not have pedals - and they cannot be used on the road as a motor vehicle because they do not meet any kind of permitted type approval in the UK. The only place they CAN be used is on private property (and only with the land owner's permission).'

http://www.legalisesegways.co.uk/ (http://www.legalisesegways.co.uk/)

they seem to me to be ideal for the prom etc

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2011, 02:02:59 pm
I've just looked on Ebay at Segways and they are not cheap :o I would not want to leave it anywhere at these prices!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Segway-i2-Transporter-bonus-brand-new-fast-ship-/180696528979?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a125a3853 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Segway-i2-Transporter-bonus-brand-new-fast-ship-/180696528979?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a125a3853)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2011, 02:12:19 pm
I thought the blonde came with it!    L0L

Nearer to £5k in the UK!   Lot of money for a couple of gyroscopes!     >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 21, 2011, 11:08:02 pm
I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
I now understand that the refusal of Planning Permission applies not just to the proposed lighting but to the signage itself.

What's wrong with the sinage?  :-X

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the signage at either Cafe Culture or the Chippie next door.
It is tasteful, in keeping with the conservation area, and unobtrusive.
Methinks that someone is being victimised... :-X :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on July 22, 2011, 12:42:13 am
I note that Cafe Culture on Mostyn Street  were recently refused Planning Permission to have strip lighting along the top of their signage. I can't see quite why this would be refused, being as practically every other shop in the area has illuminated signage? I understand that the chip shop next door (under same ownership) has also been refused permission. How odd?

I think some mannequin dummies wearing lighted miners helmets, strategically placed above the verandah may sway the council.  8)
I now understand that the refusal of Planning Permission applies not just to the proposed lighting but to the signage itself.

What's wrong with the sinage?  :-X

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the signage at either Cafe Culture or the Chippie next door.
It is tasteful, in keeping with the conservation area, and unobtrusive.
Methinks that someone is being victimised... :-X :-X


What again?  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 09:06:59 am
BT are upgrading the Llandudno Exchange to enable Broadband speeds of up to 20Mbps.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 22, 2011, 09:17:22 am
Yes, I have just read that news in today's edition of the Daily Post but it doesn't say when.

Does anybody know the answer?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 09:30:13 am
Yes, I have just read that news in today's edition of the Daily Post but it doesn't say when.

Does anybody know the answer?
Will be upgraded by next Spring.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 10:00:31 am
What about Rhos on Sea exchange (which serves Penrhyn Bay) ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 10:02:42 am
What about Rhos on Sea exchange (which serves Penrhyn Bay) ?
No upgrade, as of yet. I get over 8Mbps in Colwyn Bay (which uses the Rhos exchange) and I find that more than enough.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 10:16:37 am
What about Rhos on Sea exchange (which serves Penrhyn Bay) ?
No upgrade, as of yet. I get over 8Mbps in Colwyn Bay (which uses the Rhos exchange) and I find that more than enough.

We can only dream of such exotic speeds here in Penrhyn Bay!  currently it's 3.2Mbps which is not too bad for here!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on July 22, 2011, 11:02:09 am
No such luck where I live, 0.5Mbps and fingers crossed the signal holds long enough for me to get my online business done before it drops off.  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 01:54:44 pm
that is very very slow, unexcusable these days!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 01:56:27 pm
Just seen 3 dead seagulls together in the road on the North Shore, very odd, were they poisoned?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 02:07:49 pm
Just seen 3 dead seagulls together in the road on the North Shore, very odd, were they poisoned?
A suicide pact? Poisoned chips?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 22, 2011, 02:30:41 pm
it's very odd, they didn't look like a car had hit them, more like they were dumped there, it was holding up the traffic!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 22, 2011, 02:30:54 pm
Hope they belong to the happy gang who wake me up at 4am and earlier every morning!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 22, 2011, 06:36:09 pm
Please let them be part of the seagull Riverdance troup or the seagull synchronised swimming team (if it's been raining) that perform on my dormer every morning from about the same time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 22, 2011, 09:03:38 pm
The Lloyds Bank Cashpoint is still out of action, must be two weeks since it was damaged. Surely it only takes a few days to send a new machine out and install it?  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 23, 2011, 10:01:37 am
 ;) Why don;t we ask each block of hotels on the Promenade to adopt the flower beds infront of each block then we may get to Eastbourne;s standard,ok it lets CCBC off the hook but they don;t care anyway so what;s too lose. :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: poppy on July 23, 2011, 06:23:09 pm
Two large vans with adverts on the side, sitting on the prom in Rhos, advertising events in Llandudno.
Methinks the Llandudno area should be content with the numbers they already have.  :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2011, 11:22:45 pm
Things have come to a pretty pass when the flower displays in Rhyl are way ahead of Llandudno's:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 24, 2011, 08:23:00 am
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what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester

Missed this earlier.  We had a hop-on, hop-off bus service: Arriva tried one with open-top double deckers for two years, and eventually gave up on it, because it never made any money. Never been quite sure why it didn't work.  Possibly the concept needed better explanations, or perhaps the weather for the past three years hasn't been the greatest for travelling on open top buses.  But something is needed. Apart from anything else, you need to separate traffic and pedestrians.  However, any innovatory scheme is going to require investment, and that's rather thin on the ground just now.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2011, 09:01:40 am
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what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester

We had a hop-on, hop-off bus service: Arriva tried one with open-top double deckers for two years, and eventually gave up on it, because it never made any money.

The problem we have is not getting around - it is more where to park all the cars!    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 09:30:00 am
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what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester

Missed this earlier.  We had a hop-on, hop-off bus service: Arriva tried one with open-top double deckers for two years, and eventually gave up on it, because it never made any money. Never been quite sure why it didn't work.  Possibly the concept needed better explanations, or perhaps the weather for the past three years hasn't been the greatest for travelling on open top buses.  But something is needed. Apart from anything else, you need to separate traffic and pedestrians.  However, any innovatory scheme is going to require investment, and that's rather thin on the ground just now.
That was an overpriced tourist tour, though, rather than a transport service. It was far too expensive for anyone to use it just as a means of getting from A to B. A free or low cost (all fares £1) bus service operating at 20 minute intervals would be a different proposition.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 24, 2011, 10:00:12 am
Yes - I think they got several things wrong on it. But a modified, lower-cost version might have been very useful.  As you say, any public transport system has to run frequently to be of any real use.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 24, 2011, 05:15:12 pm
We were in Liverpool last Friday for the centenary celebrations for the Royal Liver Building and the opening of the new 'Museum of Liverpool' so decided to use the Hop-on Hop-off bus before we returned home

It was only £6 for an hour tour of the city and as our tickets lasted 24 hours, we went around for a second time and got off to see one or two attractions.

There is always going to be another bus coming along every 20 minutes.

Liverpool has become an excellent destination for day trippers especially down on the Waterfront.

Something Llandudno could learn a lot from.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 05:22:58 pm
It was Civic Sunday today and so I thought I would take some photos of this event. It was good to see so many Councillors turning out for the free meal ceremony.
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Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 05:24:22 pm
Some more photos:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 05:29:08 pm
It was also good to see in these times of cutbacks that money was found to hire two limousines to ferry the Mayor and entourage around. No need to save money when it's someone else's money you're spending, eh?  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 24, 2011, 07:19:30 pm
Was there a circus in town? looks like a few clowns around  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2011, 07:20:43 pm
The biggest laugh is the Mayor's Sergeant seen on the extreme left of the fourth photo of the second group.  When he retired from being the Town Hall Caretaker they gave him the Sergeant's job for some reason.  I have yet to discover what he does, but we do pay him the odd thousand(s) or so a year!    :D

David Jones seems to be pondering what it is all about!     ;)

Wonder how much it all cost including the bun fight after the parade!    Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2011, 09:29:16 pm
This yellow Double Decker was parked on the Prom this afternoon, preparing for the 'Jagger & Woody Breakfast Show' tomorrow morning LIVE from Llandudno!

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5971083779_a4f6c76eb5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5971083779/)
Jagger &amp; Woody (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5971083779/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2011, 08:52:30 pm
I am currently trapped in Langtrys bar thanks to Fester - its like going back in time to 1973. Please can someone rescue me? :o WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 25, 2011, 09:15:56 pm
Why are you trapped? Are your feet stuck to the floor? Or shall I ring for the coastguard? Or the Lifeboat? _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 25, 2011, 10:03:37 pm
He was trapped because he drinks too slowly, and is too tight to waste beer....  Z**

So, he would rather sit through a cheesy comedian and singer... his fault not mine!
The more you drink the better the singer sounds, I always find.

Anyhow, Dave loved it really... next stop The British Legion, The RAOB club, ...and then the West Shore Social Club!   ZXZ ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 25, 2011, 10:08:09 pm
OMG Don't wake me up on your way home !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2011, 09:39:21 pm
The Elms Hotel up by the Pier roundabout has gone up for sale, on the instructions of the Receivers. Shame, its in a great spot and looks very pleasant. Built in 1881 and yours for £450,000 for the residue of the 2,000 year lease.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2011, 01:05:29 pm
I had intended to go for a walk on the Great Orme today but as I drove to Llandudno I could see that the clouds were very low so I opted for a drive over the Orme instead
I drove down past St Tudno's Church and there was a gang in high visibility vests who were offenders in the community so it was nice to see them doing something worthwhile there.  I stopped on the zig zag road and as there was no one in the toll booth I drove around the Marine Drive for free.    ;D
At the Rest and Be Thankful I enjoyed a coffee latte and cake and as the weather deteriorated further I got in my car to drive home.
A camera crew passed me and I could see them setting up the equipment on the other side of the road to the R and BT.  As I drove more and more crew came past and around the corner were about 4 people all in anoraks with their hoods up but I'm sure one of them looked like Iolo Williams so perhaps they were filming something for the BBC.
It's a pity they weren't there yesterday as the day would have been perfect for filming.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 28, 2011, 01:20:43 pm
Were you wearing shorts? If so I drove past you by the old tea gardens.If not someone else had stopped , got out of the car and was peering over the edge ! Got caught in that mist walking the dog, so cut my own walk short, now trying to dry the washing whilst the rain pelts on the roof.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2011, 01:23:36 pm
I stopped on the zig zag road and as there was no one in the toll booth I drove around the Marine Drive for free.    ;D

The Toll Booth at the bottom of the Zig-zag is never manned so it is now always free from this point to West Shore.    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2011, 01:34:35 pm
I stopped on the zig zag road and as there was no one in the toll booth I drove around the Marine Drive for free.    ;D

The Toll Booth at the bottom of the Zig-zag is never manned so it is now always free from this point to West Shore.    ZXZ

How long has it been like that then Yorkie as it doesn't seem that long since I was chatting to the guy who was in the booth?     ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 28, 2011, 01:54:50 pm
Don't forget that for just £15 you can have a pass for 12 months that includes parking at the summit, bargain!  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 28, 2011, 02:36:18 pm
My OH is friendly with the toll keeper by the pier and the toll booth at the bottom of the zig-zag hasn't been manned this season or last.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on July 28, 2011, 02:51:03 pm
Probably down to some bright spark on this forum pointing out to the world that there's  a bloke with a good deal of cash sat in a booth miles from anywhere! :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2011, 02:56:23 pm
The Zig-zag Toll never did take much money.  It was more a deterant to stop people getting a free trip round by going via the tram track and zig-zag route.   The Toll at this point started in about 1993 and ran until 2 years ago and as far as I know there was never any serious problems.
 Z**
   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2011, 03:27:21 pm
And to think that I've been walking around the Great Orme all this time so I don't have to pay a toll charge!    ;)

Anyway has anyone got any info on the film crew that was filming opposite the R and BT?  
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 29, 2011, 09:03:45 am
Apparently, they're making a reality show in which 3 'celebs' navigate their way around the Orme and over to Liverpool using traditional methods.  They filmed at the R & BT cafe, then were taken down to the pier, from where they were supposed to sail on a small boat to Liverpool landing stage.  The show's working title is "All roads lead to home" and will be on BBC2.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 29, 2011, 11:10:25 am
Were you wearing shorts? If so I drove past you by the old tea gardens.If not someone else had stopped , got out of the car and was peering over the edge ! Got caught in that mist walking the dog, so cut my own walk short, now trying to dry the washing whilst the rain pelts on the roof.

Yes, that must have been me. I was looking to see if anyone was in the Toll Booth and then watched your car going past the toll booth before I headed down there myself.
Did you notice the film crew on your drive around the Orme Nemesis?
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Post by: Nemesis on July 29, 2011, 11:38:54 am
No I didn't, as I passed the cafe the mist was rolling down so much that I put my headlights on , so was probably looking the other way !
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Post by: Blodyn on July 29, 2011, 11:54:11 am
Apparently, they're making a reality show in which 3 'celebs' navigate their way around the Orme and over to Liverpool using traditional methods.  They filmed at the R & BT cafe, then were taken down to the pier, from where they were supposed to sail on a small boat to Liverpool landing stage.  The show's working title is "All roads lead to home" and will be on BBC2.

I understand that the programme makers are sending the three "celebrities" on a journey through Wales, passing through Llandudno.  They are supposed to be travelling without maps or compasses and navigating by the landscape, sun, etc.   One of the researchers for the programme made some enquiries about St. Tudno's, with a view to including it in the programme, but we haven't heard any more so we've obviously been left out.  They wanted to know whether the altar is in the east of the church (it is), whether the graves face east (most of them do, apart from those which seem to have been "fitted in" as space allowed) and whether the graves of priests face west, i.e. facing their congregation.  I've only recently learnt about the latter tradition from a friend at a village church in England and other people I've mentioned it to have been as ignorant as me.  I went around the churchyard and checked all the clergy graves (about 20 of them) but it was all very democratic - they faced the same way as everyone else.  Perhaps the researchers found another church on the route which fitted all the criteria, though once one has found the east it's surely not necessary to find the west too but I suppose it would give them more to talk about in the programme. 
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Post by: dwsi on July 31, 2011, 07:11:53 pm
BBC News - £5m Mostyn gallery redesign wins Eisteddfod medal http://bbc.in/o5Limf (http://bbc.in/o5Limf)
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Post by: wrex on August 01, 2011, 07:46:30 pm
 :( I am not quite sure how many cuts have been made in the CCBC parks dept, but considering its the hight of the season our grass and flower beds have been left unweeded and uncut and it all looks a mess,Either CCBC parks dept are only concentrating on Conwy and Colwyn Bay or they have nobody to look after Llandudno. :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on August 01, 2011, 08:03:24 pm
:( I am not quite sure how many cuts have been made in the CCBC parks dept, but considering its the hight of the season our grass and flower beds have been left unweeded and uncut and it all looks a mess,Either CCBC parks dept are only concentrating on Conwy and Colwyn Bay or they have nobody to look after Llandudno. :rage:
Very true, Wrex. I don't see why the Town Council can't save the £4000+ cost of the Civic Sunday event and spend that on enhancing the flower displays around town? Something that all the people could appreciate, not just the chosen few...  $angry$
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Post by: wrex on August 01, 2011, 08:57:44 pm
 :roll::) Because Dave they don;t give a damn, they only see things they want to, take the xmas lights ,not one agreed with me that they were crap,not one,these flower beds and grass won;t have been noticed by any of them.Why are there no lines on this new cycle path,cars are parking on the cyclepath on Maesdu rd and the reason no lines and when you reach the rugby field there is a sign telling you to dismount,what sort of cyclepath tells you to get of your bike,mad. :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on August 01, 2011, 08:59:54 pm
I see that the local morons had been busy on Friday or Saturday night, windows were smashed in both Marks & Spencer and the Taylors clothes shop (in The Mall shopping arcade).
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Post by: DaveR on August 02, 2011, 06:04:17 pm
Several people have commented to me lately about the street traders that have appeared in Llandudno. First, there was the Jewellery guy often to be found outside RBS, now there is the Temporary Tattoos stand that wanders around Mostyn Street. I take it they are operating illegally, or can we all set up shop on the pavement free of any rent or rates to pay? At a time when CCBC is cracking down on legitimate businesses with a A Board on the pavement or a cafe displaying signage on its canopy, it seems a little odd that they are quite happy for the street traders to continue operating?
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Post by: DaveR on August 02, 2011, 06:21:00 pm
:( I am not quite sure how many cuts have been made in the CCBC parks dept, but considering its the hight of the season our grass and flower beds have been left unweeded and uncut and it all looks a mess,Either CCBC parks dept are only concentrating on Conwy and Colwyn Bay or they have nobody to look after Llandudno. :rage:
Very true, Wrex. I don't see why the Town Council can't save the £4000+ cost of the Civic Sunday event and spend that on enhancing the flower displays around town? Something that all the people could appreciate, not just the chosen few...  $angry$
I saw this comment on Oscar's blog:

"In the Bay of Colwyn Town Council we don't have a sergeant of a Mace bearer or any other trappings of pomp and ceremony. Our Mayor making ceremony is done at the AGM of the council and the mayor lays on a buffet for visiting mayors. There is a Civic Sunday church service and lunch which councillors themselves have to pay for. The Mayor's Allowance is £1000 per year, to pay for travel, hospitality and any contributions the mayor wish to make to societies etc that invite them -such as raffle tickets, donations. The Mayor also hols an event to raise money for their nominated charity."

Take note, Mayor Robbins! The Town Council is not a gravy train to fund your jollies!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 02, 2011, 06:42:02 pm
Several people have commented to me lately about the street traders that have appeared in Llandudno. First, there was the Jewellery guy often to be found outside RBS, now there is the Temporary Tattoos stand that wanders around Mostyn Street. I take it they are operating illegally, or can we all set up shop on the pavement free of any rent or rates to pay? At a time when CCBC is cracking down on legitimate businesses with a A Board on the pavement or a cafe displaying signage on its canopy, it seems a little odd that they are quite happy for the street traders to continue operating?

Wheel clamp them  WWW
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Post by: dwsi on August 02, 2011, 09:29:29 pm
Several people have commented to me lately about the street traders that have appeared in Llandudno. First, there was the Jewellery guy often to be found outside RBS, now there is the Temporary Tattoos stand that wanders around Mostyn Street. I take it they are operating illegally, or can we all set up shop on the pavement free of any rent or rates to pay? At a time when CCBC is cracking down on legitimate businesses with a A Board on the pavement or a cafe displaying signage on its canopy, it seems a little odd that they are quite happy for the street traders to continue operating?

I saw this street trader on towyn crossroads 2 weeks ago
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Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2011, 09:06:30 am
The Council have the powers to deal with such matters but like fly posting, promenade parking by campers and a miriad of other things they do absolutely eff all. >>>

They make the Rules and then throw the book away it seems!    $angry$
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Post by: hollins on August 03, 2011, 09:17:28 am
I was amazed to see the temporary tattoo man providing his service yesterday right outside M&S. He was almost in the place where the man normally stands with the Big Issue.
 If it is illegal how they possibly could stand in such a prominent position?
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 06:22:49 pm
Nice to meet you and your family today, Barbiroli.  :)
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 06:23:56 pm
I was amazed to see the temporary tattoo man providing his service yesterday right outside M&S. He was almost in the place where the man normally stands with the Big Issue.
 If it is illegal how they possibly could stand in such a prominent position?
The Tattoo Man and Jewellery Man were side by side outside RBS Bank today, I'm surprised the Manager hasn't asked them to move.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2011, 07:44:40 pm
They may well be on land leased or owned by the Business (Bank or whatever). They only commit an offence if they trade on the public highway (pavement) and do not have the required licence.  You can bet they know the law and use it to their own advantage! 
 WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 03, 2011, 08:15:20 pm
Interesting, I'll have to set up a car boot sale stall there, it would save me the cost of the pitch fee :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 08:20:07 pm
...and i shall have a fleet of bicycles selling ice cream from pavement locations throughout Llandudno!
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Post by: hollins on August 03, 2011, 08:22:32 pm
Maybe PC MIke Smith could tell us what the law is and why they are not being moved on?
I have often seen sellers in cities packing up quickly and moving on if they see a policeman coming.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 03, 2011, 08:33:37 pm
...and i shall have a fleet of bicycles selling ice cream from pavement locations throughout Llandudno!

Mobile Ice-Cream sellers have to have a licence!  They get moved on by the CEO's (Parking Bods).  If my memory serves me right all Llandudno Roads are covered by the Statute and Trading is forbidden.  Begging is easier!   Sit there with a cap in front of you, say nothing and people will literally throw money at you! L0L

Hollins - they don't want to get booked and the offence generally used is Obstruction of the Highway (pavement).
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2011, 08:39:04 pm
Speaking of begging, I notice that a man has taken up residence in the entrance to the empty Hoosons Corner premises and is there begging every day.
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Post by: Fester on August 03, 2011, 10:49:30 pm
Before I took on my current miniscule business on Llandudno Pier, I applied to CCBC to be able to sell local seafood produce, from a mobile van around town.

I wanted to sell Conwy mussels etc, as I had seen a kiosk on Conwy Quay with a long queue, and I thought it would be a nice business in many ways.  (I could eat the left overs too!)
CCBC gave me the list of streets where trading would be allowed, (at a price for the license)
You've guessed it,  any street of any reasonable footfall was banned, ... I think Madoc St was the closest I was allowed to get to real people.  So it was a non-starter.

But now, if the tattooist and jewellery guy can hawk their wares unmolested, then I might as well set up on the Prom, next to the Punch and Judy.  Whats fair for one.....
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Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2011, 06:07:43 pm
Well, what an interesting afternoon I've had. I was just walking through town when I spied a Friend of the Forum. He told me that workmen were busy in the Clarence Hotel, so we went over to see and, after a brief chat, were allowed to go inside for an accompanied look around.

We went in though the side door and straight into the old Beijing Chinese Restaurant (originally the Royal Oak Bar). No furniture remained, but the old range in the kitchen was intact and still smelt of Chinese food! We then walked through into what had latterly been the Rumourz bar before closure. There were pools of water on the floor here and you could see where a large section of ceiling had collapsed over the bar. There was also an old Punchball coin-operated machine, that had been destroyed by vandals. The smell of damp was very strong. On the ceiling here was a massive plasterwork rose, must have been 10 foot across, still in good condition. There was a very nice tiled floor in this area, must have been original, very intricate design.

Next up was the old main staircase area - another massive plasterwork ceiling rose and an ancient lift (the sort where you had to slide the metal folding door across) was slotted into the middle of the staircase. A quick peep through into the old Sakura Restaurant (still furnished), and we headed up the once very grand staircase to the First Floor. It was sad to see that some of the carved wooden tops of the staircase bannister had been smashed by vandals but the good news was that there were lovely stained glass windows on the staircase that were completely intact.

On the First Floor, we had a quick look in the Bedrooms, still furnished in some cases with wardrobes etc but everything combustible is currently being removed from the building. There were small items of debris strewn around the entire building and I noticed the electric sockets and switches had been ripped out by thieves. Up again to the second floor, lots more bedrooms with odd pieces of furniture in them and even the odd picture hanging on the wall. Floor was a bit ropey in places, perhaps as a result of thieves pinching copper pipes. Up once more to the top floor, lots of attic rooms that must once have accommodated the staff. Not tiny rooms but not much fun for a tall guy like myself, as headroom was very limited in the corners. The roof was leaking in quite a few places and the plaster had fallen away. A quick look into the room that held the winding gear for the Lift (all original) and we headed back down.

No photos, I'm afraid, it was a spur of the moment visit and it was too dark inside for my iphone camera to operate. The building was actually in slightly better shape that I expected, but a considerable investment will be needed to transform it into its new role. As to what that role is, it would appear that my earlier 'unconfirmed fact' regarding the new owners was correct.  ;)
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Post by: Fester on August 04, 2011, 11:41:54 pm
What an excellent and interesting account.

I am delighted that one of the town's eyesores will soon be under renovation by a major company, who will invest heavily.

It will revitalise the whole Gloddaeth / Arvon Avenue area, which after the closure of the Clarence, and the DSS residents of The Jenivore episode, was looking decidedly ropey.

Could things be on the up?
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Post by: Llechwedd on August 05, 2011, 12:27:24 pm
Who has bought it?
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Post by: Nemesis on August 05, 2011, 04:06:00 pm
Just noticed a large For Sale Board outside the old St George's Church. Hope we aren't having another empty building !
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Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2011, 04:41:33 pm
That's interesting, it's been used as hq for the clunk click software company recently. Did you see which estate agent it was?
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Post by: Barbiroli on August 05, 2011, 05:34:11 pm
Nice to meet you and your family today, Barbiroli.  :)
  Good to meet you also Dave,nice to put a face to the name  :)
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Post by: Nemesis on August 05, 2011, 06:17:04 pm
That's interesting, it's been used as hq for the clunk click software company recently. Did you see which estate agent it was?

St David's
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Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2011, 06:27:02 pm
That's interesting, it's been used as hq for the clunk click software company recently. Did you see which estate agent it was?

St David's
Thank you! It's up for rent at £24,000 a year:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=1&p=721&o=37 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=1&p=721&o=37)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 05, 2011, 07:16:43 pm
I have been a customer of Clunk Click for many years.

I hope everything is alright.

I think I had better boot up my notebook asap to ensure my daily backup happens.

It was yesterday.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 06, 2011, 01:13:33 pm
The sign doesn't say if it is for sale , to let, or whichever. Nor if it is the whole building, or just office space. I too looked on the web page, that infers that it is just to let, there are pics of the interior which looks as though it is all of it, but I wouldn't be sure as they have re-used the mezzanine floor which Drew Pritchard put in. It reads as though it is the whole thing-- an awful large space !!
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Post by: TheMedz on August 07, 2011, 04:28:24 pm
Lifeboat AirSea Rescue exercise this afternoon.

Sorry about the low quality of the picture
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Post by: llandudnotrust on August 07, 2011, 06:02:18 pm
Nearly took my roof off  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2011, 06:59:03 pm
Was a very good demonstration. Lots of speculation amongst the crowds as to whether Prince William was flying the Helicopter!

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/6018305513_1e90e6ba58_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6018305513/)
Winch me up! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6018305513/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 07, 2011, 07:05:17 pm
 $cool$  excellent shot there!
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Post by: dwsi on August 07, 2011, 07:59:19 pm
Alterations and extensions to unit 6 to form units 5A and 6 on Parc Parc Llandudno http://bit.ly/nr3koc (http://bit.ly/nr3koc)

Llandudno Town Council – Recommend refusal on the grounds that it will limit pedestrian access for pedestrians from Craig y Don to Parc Llandudno.
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Post by: TheMedz on August 07, 2011, 08:08:32 pm
As usual Great Photo Dave.  Ours were an experiment in taking pictures with a compact digital through a pair of handy binoculars.  I think maybe some investment in a zoom lens for my camera might be called for.  I noticed from way up here in the "stalls" that there was a cherry picker raised up by the cenotaph. Were they filming the exercise?
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Post by: wrex on August 07, 2011, 08:57:28 pm
 ??? Congratulations to the town council,they would rather see the hoardings around the back of Parc Llandudno instead of one new unit and an extension to another,braindead.The grounds for their refusal being no access at nite from that corner, its not as if any off them are leaving Broadway Boulavard and need the short cut is it. Why don;t the oldies retire and let some new blood on the council,people who realise there may be some jobs for local youth in these two new units. GGMS
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Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2011, 09:03:19 pm
Close up of the RAF Seaking Rescue Helicopter:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/6019303902_b7b0608110_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6019303902/)
RAF Rescue Helicopter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6019303902/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Michael on August 07, 2011, 09:54:53 pm
Getting back to the street traders in Llandudno, I can speak from a position of having plenty of knowledge on this subject. I have known market type traders who would have given their right arm to trade on Mostyn Street, and I can tell you, you have NO CHANCE. The only way a trader MIGHT squeeze in would be on a forecourt privately owned---but then he would have to pay a very fat rent to the landowner, so much that it would'nt be worth his while. There are many local by laws which would stop any street trader, and, obstruction of any sort on a public pavement is definately no-go. The present traders  that have been mentioned will only last a day or two before they are seen off.
  Why do I claim to have plenty of knowledge? Well for many years I operated a shop on Towyn crossroads the definate centre in North Wales of forecourt trading, legal, semi legal and downright illegal. Not so much now, lockup tiny shops were built to try and stop the hundreds of traders there in the 70s/80s.  I myself sold everything on my forecourt outside my shop--I also let off the rights to certain patches of ground for other traders. So I have had experience as the big bad landlord. I have also had the experience of being instantly arrested by a plain clothes cop in Liverpool for selling. wait for it, balloons. No stall, nothing but a pocket full of balloons and a large inflated balloon over my shoulder. Marched off to the Cheapside (thats a nick in the Pool), searched, cautioned not quite thrown into a cell but not far off, and an appearance in Court about five or six days later. I remember it was three days before Xmas, I thought I might get a bit of seasonal mercy. Fined £60  (in 1977, a lot of cash at that time) and a warning that I wasent to go back on the street to try and make cash for the fine. Mike  P.S. In case you are wondering the balloon was a con, I will admit to it.  The one over my shoulder was specially made and had wrinckles on the side and was around six foot long. The ones I was selling were, of course, uninflated and had wrinckles on. But you couldnt blow them up!!  But, they were only 20 pence and I was short of cash at the time.
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Post by: Blodyn on August 07, 2011, 10:19:04 pm
I thought you were such an upright citizen, Mike!
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Post by: Fester on August 07, 2011, 11:54:55 pm
I thought you were such an upright citizen, Mike!

He was selling balloons, not viagra Blodyn.. :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Trojan on August 08, 2011, 01:23:11 am
Lots of speculation amongst the crowds as to whether Prince William was flying the Helicopter

You mean they actually cared Dave?  ???
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Post by: Yorkie on August 08, 2011, 07:49:58 am
Alterations and extensions to unit 6 to form units 5A and 6 on Parc Parc Llandudno

Llandudno Town Council – Recommend refusal on the grounds that it will limit pedestrian access for pedestrians from Craig y Don to Parc Llandudno.

Llandudno Town Council Planning Committee and the Full Council have, as far as I know, never had one of their recommendations passed by CCBC.  They are totally ineffective as a governing force for the people of the Town.
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Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2011, 08:12:00 am
Lots of speculation amongst the crowds as to whether Prince William was flying the Helicopter

You mean they actually cared Dave?  ???
Not really.  :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on August 08, 2011, 08:23:21 am
Nearly took my roof off  :laugh:

Thought it was coming through my back door !
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Post by: wrex on August 08, 2011, 10:49:31 am
Yorkie all i can say is thank god ,if their recomendations had been observed this town would be dead on its feet. WWW
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Post by: Llechwedd on August 08, 2011, 11:40:26 am
In London you have to have a street traders licence and also a licence to busk and if not you are moved on pretty sharpish.
Yesterday tatoo man was out and a rather good sicxpiece combo of what looked like south Americans outside the Alex.  Wonder if they could be heard in Trinity church?
No police around of course and we don't have bye laws inspectors any more so it seems anyone can come and screech out of tune or play the keyboards badly or beg and no one cares.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 08, 2011, 01:51:07 pm
When I was in the Met we had lots of fun and games with the "barra boys" and their fruit and veg barrows, it was just one continuous battle.   The other street traders were mainly the "sell from a suitcase" brigade selling everything from nylons to perfumes.  Most would operate from close to the doorways of the big stores in Oxford Street and such.  We would go in the back entrance, remove helmet and come out of the front and nab them red handed!   Didn't make much difference to them getting caught, they seemed to regard the ensuing fine as their "rent".   _))*

The street girls at the time would get "nicked" for soliciting every month and their £2 fine was considered in the same way.  In fact if they had not been arrested for a week or so would come into the Police Station and "give themselves up" so that they could pay their fine.   It seemed to be a matter of pride with them to show their mates they were still working girls!!    L0L
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Post by: Bellringer on August 08, 2011, 03:41:59 pm
  Wonder if they could be heard in Trinity church?


Yes, and even above the sound of the bells before the service started at 10.30 both yesterday and a week ago.

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Post by: Michael on August 09, 2011, 11:28:35 pm
Going back a few posts to Fester's response. No, I was'ent selling Viagra, nor even taking it------I didnt need it!!! Not quite so certain now, but---who knows, if the circumstances were right.  And as to the balloons, sales were good until Easter Rantzon (if I have named her correctly) exposed it on T.V. and the sales instantly went pop.
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Post by: Trojan on August 10, 2011, 01:39:04 am
And as to the balloons, sales were good until Easter Rantzon (if I have named her correctly) exposed it on T.V. and the sales instantly went pop.

Esther Rantzen Mike.

I heard your prices were slightly inflated.  :__)+
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Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2011, 11:48:29 am
Wonder who actually showed you round the Clarence Dave?
Whitbread have denied that they have any interest in it ! Page 3 of today's Pioneer.
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2011, 11:52:46 am
They were workmen who were busy inside for several days.

Llandudno is shown as a target town on their acquisitions list:
http://www.whitbread.co.uk/whitbread/property/hotelsrestaurants/targettowns.html (http://www.whitbread.co.uk/whitbread/property/hotelsrestaurants/targettowns.html)
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Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2011, 11:56:23 am
Mmmm-- wonder if or who  they really were? If Whitbread declare in the press that they have no connection with the Clarence  why they would send in workmen? Something doesn't tally somewhere !
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Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2011, 12:02:06 pm
It would, of course, be a Travelodge Brand which is the hotel side of Whitbread.  What's in a name?   WWW

I would have though that they would not shy away from publicity and would grab every opportunity to put themselves on the map.   C'est la vie!    :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2011, 12:06:05 pm
That is the only way that this could have happened-----Travelodge wasn't mentioned though ! Do Whitbread actually own both? According to Wikipedia they don't--- unless that is out of date .
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2011, 12:32:18 pm
Premier Inn is the Hotel division of Whitbread. Travelodge is a separate company and has no connection.

The workman we spoke to said he had worked on the new Premier Inn at Lancaster?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 10, 2011, 12:37:04 pm
Travelodge has beens owned for the past five years by Dubia International Capital who had previously been interested in the Tudno Castle Hotel.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2011, 01:22:19 pm
Thanks for that-- I thought not !

The mystery deepens ! :o
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Post by: Yorkie on August 10, 2011, 01:23:48 pm
B****r, I've been booking myself into the wrong hotel for the past 6 years!!   L0L 
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2011, 01:52:16 pm
The truth will come out in the end, I suppose!  $walesflag$
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2011, 02:42:26 pm
The allseeing Oscar says...

The Pioneer today pours cold water over the Clarence Hotel  by saying that it will not be converted to a Premier Inn , that despite what a certain councilor say is TRUE, it will NOT be converted to a Premier Inn. However there is very good news on the horizon and it is only a matter of time before it will be announced that a very reputable company has exchanged contracts on the now dilapidated hotel. I assure you that this is NOT speculation but fact, I am bound by  confidentiality and will not break this, but think it will be good for that area of town.
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Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2011, 09:32:10 am
Boxer Randolph Turpin named “Turnip” in leaflet error

RENOWNED boxer Randolph Turpin was famed for his prowess in the ring – but a new tourism leaflet calls him a turnip.

The misspelling is on a promotional leaflet produced by Llandudno Attractions Consortium. Instead of saying that the Great Orme Summit Complex includes Randolph Turpin’s bar, it instead trumpets the delights of “Randolph Turnip’s Bar”.

Bar manager Ron Jones was horrified when it came back misspelt from the printers.

He said: “I was embarrassed. We’d had 130,000 leaflets made and distributed and it was too late to bring them all back. The mistake has been made somewhere along the line.”


Tourist Dave Swanton spotted the gaffe in the leaflet. He said: “My dad had once told me about Randolph Turpin so when I visited the complex and picked up the leaflet, I thought it was hilarious.”

Mr Swanton, who is a BBC radio journalist and Sale Sharks rugby union club spokesman, is even giving the typographical error a light hearted mention on his programme this weekend.

Printers WO Jones Ltd of Llangefni said it works hard to eradicate all mistakes. A spokesman said: “We endeavour at all times to ensure any spelling mistakes are spotted and rectified.

“All art work is proof read to the customers and is signed off before going to the printers. If an error is found at a later date sadly this is beyond our control.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/08/11/boxer-randolph-turpin-named-turnip-in-leaflet-error-55578-29215947/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/08/11/boxer-randolph-turpin-named-turnip-in-leaflet-error-55578-29215947/)

 :laugh:
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Post by: Blodyn on August 11, 2011, 01:21:35 pm
Here's a view from the Great Orme today!
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Post by: Jack on August 11, 2011, 01:28:59 pm
Boxer Randolph Turpin named “Turnip” in leaflet error

RENOWNED boxer Randolph Turpin was famed for his prowess in the ring – but a new tourism leaflet calls him a turnip.

The misspelling is on a promotional leaflet produced by Llandudno Attractions Consortium. Instead of saying that the Great Orme Summit Complex includes Randolph Turpin’s bar, it instead trumpets the delights of “Randolph Turnip’s Bar”.

Bar manager Ron Jones was horrified when it came back misspelt from the printers.

He said: “I was embarrassed. We’d had 130,000 leaflets made and distributed and it was too late to bring them all back. The mistake has been made somewhere along the line.”


Tourist Dave Swanton spotted the gaffe in the leaflet. He said: “My dad had once told me about Randolph Turpin so when I visited the complex and picked up the leaflet, I thought it was hilarious.”

Mr Swanton, who is a BBC radio journalist and Sale Sharks rugby union club spokesman, is even giving the typographical error a light hearted mention on his programme this weekend.

Printers WO Jones Ltd of Llangefni said it works hard to eradicate all mistakes. A spokesman said: “We endeavour at all times to ensure any spelling mistakes are spotted and rectified.

“All art work is proof read to the customers and is signed off before going to the printers. If an error is found at a later date sadly this is beyond our control.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/08/11/boxer-randolph-turpin-named-turnip-in-leaflet-error-55578-29215947/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/08/11/boxer-randolph-turpin-named-turnip-in-leaflet-error-55578-29215947/)

 :laugh:

NEW? The leaflet was printed in March and has been distributed for the last 6 months!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 11, 2011, 02:40:55 pm
Here's a view from the Great Orme today!

Exactly--- I ended up soaked to the skin with a very wet white thing on the end of a lead !
Hope it clears before the concert tonight.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on August 11, 2011, 03:50:46 pm
Concert ??
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Post by: Blodyn on August 11, 2011, 04:07:25 pm
Thanks, Nemesis. 

Llandudnotrust, it's the Celtic harp concert at St. Tudno's Church this evening. 

Leading Celtic harpist Delyth Jenkins will be performing there at 7.30 pm.  Tickets are £8.00 (concessions £5.00).  It should be a lovely concert but I hope the weather doesn't put people off. 
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Post by: llandudnotrust on August 11, 2011, 04:09:56 pm
Oh heck not looking good  :(
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Post by: TheMedz on August 11, 2011, 05:53:02 pm
As per Blodyn's photograph no view from the top of the Orme for most of today and yet the trams were packed all day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 11, 2011, 08:38:44 pm
Yes, I noticed the packed trams as I made an escape to Macdonalds. An hour later I returned up the Orme only because I knew my Council greenkeeper was up there. Whilst talking in the shelter of his cab, golfers started to arrive. Within fifteen minutes I had 32 players on the course (max 36 i.e. 4 playing each hole) at one time they could'nt even see the flags. A bit hair raising for me --- no chance of dodging a stray ball, you couldnt even see it.
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Post by: Blodyn on August 11, 2011, 10:41:03 pm
Delyth Jenkins gave a wonderful concert at St. Tudno's this evening, performing traditional tunes, her own compositions and one by her violinist daughter, Angharad.  Forty very appreciative people braved the dismal weather to attend and in such a small church that's enough to feel like a good sized audience - and it even stopped raining during the evening. 

For those who weren't able to attend, you can hear some samples of Delyth's music on her own website. (http://www.delyth-jenkins.co.uk/)

Sorry this isn't a clearer photo. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 13, 2011, 09:11:01 pm
Anyone know what has happened to the weekend festival on Bodafon fields?  The fairground is there, all set up, but appears to be deserted. I understood it was a two day event, today and tomorrow, with all manner of things happening.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 13, 2011, 09:32:34 pm
They are using the top field up by the main buildings.
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Post by: jemima on August 13, 2011, 10:43:23 pm
I believe there is a dog show and carnival queens tomorrow as well as a parade  from near the Merrion Hotel - at 12.30.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 14, 2011, 12:18:48 pm
Well, I'm not so sure. At 9.30 this morning there was one, and only one, large man in a dayglow coat stood in the middle of the entrance road. I didnt bother asking him any details,I feared the worse. It must have cost the fairground people tens of thousands to move all their tackle and then not to be open at 7 p.m. in the evening----something doesent make sense
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Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2011, 12:52:14 pm
There was some sort of incident on the Orme earlier - the Coastguard, Helicopter and both Lifeboats were out on the curve before the Lighthouse. Last pic shows the RNLB Andy Pearce being towed back to the Boathouse:
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Post by: Michael on August 14, 2011, 01:00:42 pm
The road around the Orme is closed----cars being turned back at the tollhouse
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Post by: Michael on August 14, 2011, 01:28:31 pm
The road is closed because runners are coming around in the "wrong" direction
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Post by: dwsi on August 14, 2011, 04:53:11 pm
There was some sort of incident on the Orme earlier - the Coastguard, Helicopter and both Lifeboats were out on the curve before the Lighthouse.

BBC News - Two Cheshire kayakers rescued off Llandudno coast http://bbc.in/pvohGO (http://bbc.in/pvohGO)
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Post by: hollins on August 14, 2011, 04:57:27 pm
Escape to the country on BBC at the moment. Just done a piece on Llandudno, the pier, St Tudno's church.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 14, 2011, 05:00:14 pm
Old program - was shown a long while ago.   Z**
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Post by: dwsi on August 14, 2011, 05:01:51 pm
A new blog about Llandudno 'Orme Views' http://bit.ly/q45ejP (http://bit.ly/q45ejP)
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Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2011, 06:59:31 pm
A new blog about Llandudno 'Orme Views' http://bit.ly/q45ejP (http://bit.ly/q45ejP)
££$
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Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2011, 07:00:30 pm
The Annual 'Headstock' music festival at the King's Head Pub was in full flow when i passed this afternoon:
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Post by: Michael on August 14, 2011, 08:52:06 pm
If I had known that was going on-----it might have been shutters up and me down the hill
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Post by: Nemesis on August 15, 2011, 08:52:55 am
Credit where credit is due-- it was quietened at a reasonable hour. Seem to remember alot of whingeing last time !
Looks good-- town seemed deserted yesterday evening-- everyone was there !
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Post by: wrex on August 16, 2011, 09:03:49 pm
 :o Sorry to be so negative about THE FLOWER BEDS BUT THEY LOOK DISGUSTING,FULL OF WEEDS AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE CUT ALL STAFF IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT,its a shame some of us are proud of Llandudno and others are letting it go. :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on August 16, 2011, 09:20:11 pm
:o Sorry to be so negative about THE FLOWER BEDS BUT THEY LOOK DISGUSTING,FULL OF WEEDS AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE CUT ALL STAFF IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT,its a shame some of us are proud of Llandudno and others are letting it go. :rage:
Agreed. Another area which the Town Council could chip in and do something useful instead of spending £4000 on Civic Sunday jollies for themselves.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 17, 2011, 08:13:14 am
:o Sorry to be so negative about THE FLOWER BEDS BUT THEY LOOK DISGUSTING,FULL OF WEEDS AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE CUT ALL STAFF IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT,its a shame some of us are proud of Llandudno and others are letting it go. :rage:

The Bloom Judges have long since been and gone Wrex,  what more do you expect?  I think the Judges should return a few months later and see if the displays have been kept up to scratch!   
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Post by: DaveR on August 17, 2011, 07:59:49 pm
I was just browsing the Town Council's website and was amazed to see so many spelling mistakes in the Mayor's Biography (spelling errors in bold):

The Mayor, Cllr Greg J T Robbins late father's family are from the area.  His grandfather owned a farm in Llandudno Junction and until fairly recently he had relatives running a shop and a cafe in Llandudno.  Although he was brought up in England, he fell in love with llandudno from an early age as his family always came to the town on holiday and to visit relatives.  He moved back to the area in 1984.

He works as a Contracts Manager for a lcoal construction company and has been involved in the industry sicne starting work on the Conwy Tunnel in 1987 for Tarmac Construction.  Cllr Robbins is married to Debbie with two daughters, Kira aged 14 and Holly aged 25, and has two grand children, Elysia and Jack.  He is also an animal lover and has three rescue dogs at home.

Prior to becoming Mayor, he has held the office off Deputy Mayor, has been Chaimran of the Planning Transportation Committee for two years and is a very active member of various other committee and sub-committee including Community Services, Fiannce and General Purposes, Tranpsortation and Public Rights of Way, Decorative Lighting and Staffing.  He also represents the Council on the Great Orme Management Advisory Group, the Llandudno ad Colwyn Bay Light Tram Society and the Llandudno Development Partnership.

In addition to is council held positions, he is the Treasurer of the Llandudno and District Darts League, a Governor of Ysgol John Bright High Schol and Vice Chair of Governors of Ysgol Morfa Rhianedd Primary School.  He was also the Chairman of the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza until December 2010.  Cllr Robbins also has a long standing interest in Amateur Rado having held a callsign since 1992 and he was Secretary and then Chairman of the North Wales Radio Society for several years and helped organise the annual Radio show that is held in Llandudno.

He has a passion for local history and with the backing of the Council is currently working on a Living History project for the town to make the history of Llandudno mroe accessible.


http://llandudno.gov.uk/mayor/ (http://llandudno.gov.uk/mayor/)


Unbelievable...not to mention embarrassing! Do they not even possess a spell checker at the Town Hall?

If Mayor Robbins is passionate about local history, he could do worse than have a browse through the Forum, where he will find the largest collection of Llandudno photos and memories in existence anywhere...  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on August 17, 2011, 08:17:12 pm
I've also had a go at them on NIGGLES about 30 minutes before your post.  Great minds think alike!   ZXZ
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Post by: Michael on August 17, 2011, 10:14:12 pm
Dave, my friend, sorry to disagree with you. I don't think any of these are spelling mistakes---they are keyboard errors i.e. mistyping.  I make them all the time, sticky keys etc
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Post by: Michael on August 17, 2011, 10:16:47 pm
Mind you, this is probably a worse sin because even a quick glance shows the mistakes. Very careless and unbusiness like
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 18, 2011, 02:46:22 am
DaveR, you missed a couple of other grammatical errors but I shall let you off as there were so many errors in the first place.

Did you also notice the 'Calendar of Meetings' ended three months ago?

http://llandudno.gov.uk/calendar-ofmeetings (http://llandudno.gov.uk/calendar-ofmeetings)

This list should have also been updated by now for 2011-12.

http://llandudno.gov.uk/representation-on-outside-bodies (http://llandudno.gov.uk/representation-on-outside-bodies)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 18, 2011, 07:17:39 am
Dave and I posted within the same hour, Dave on this and me on the Niggles thread.  I covered the Calendar.

A Freedom of Information request was put in by Oscar about the Mayor's Sargeant and there is a large section on the said person which makes it look as though he does more work than anyone else!   How ridiculous to waste money on someone to "help to ROBE the Mayor".  When did we have "eminent" persons and "dignatories" visiting?   Surely such persons should be met by no less a person than the Mayor himself?

Yet another plethora of spelling errors (not typing errors).  Serjeant is an antiquated spelling.

QUOTE
The Mayor's Serjeant

The post of Mayor's Serjeant was established in 2003 by the Town Council as an Honorarium Office and the role broadly covers the following areas:

•To assist the Mayor personally in carrying out their (only if Mayors) duties and civic engagements, including robing.
•To attend and accompany the Mayor/members of the Council at various civic functions or engagements which occur throughout the year.
•To attend Council and other meetings, as required.
•To receive offical guests at civic and other occasions, as required.
•To assist The Mayor/Town Clerk with the smooth running and hosting of the practical side of all Civic functions and events, including: the Annual General Meeting; Civic Sunday; Freedom Parades; Wales in Bloom; Llandudno in Bloom; Miss Alice competition; Town Twinning; Fireworks night; Remembrance Sunday, Christmas Parade and others as needed.
• To assist The Mayor/Town Clerk with visitors to the Town Council eg: Schools; Community/Voluntary Groups and representatvies; overseas visitors; civic dignatories/eminent persons; representatives from the UK Armed Forces (past and present); businesses, individuals.
•To assist the Town Clerk, where required, with appropriate, minor, maintenance works.
UNQUOTE
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Post by: DaveR on August 19, 2011, 09:24:03 am
Llandudno carnival unlikely to go ahead next year
Aug 18 2011 by Judith Phillips, North Wales Weekly News

IT’S unlikely there will be a Llandudno Carnival next year as the weekend two-day event operated at a loss.

Organiser Linda Groom said people seem to have been put off by the £3.50 entrance fee which also included entry to Bodafon Farm Park in Craig-y-Don.

“It was very disappointing that we didn’t get better support as the event was in aid of two local charities, Ysgol y Gogarth and St David’s Hospice,” she said.

“We had the best ever entry for the carnival queens competitions, and for the morris dancing and majorettes, with competitors coming from all over North Wales and the north of England, but it was a pity local people didn’t support us better.

“It’s unlikely it will be held again, and I’m not willing to continue as chairman as it’s upsetting to put in so much work and not get public support,” she explained.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/08/18/llandudno-carnival-unlikely-to-go-ahead-next-year-55243-29252943/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2011/08/18/llandudno-carnival-unlikely-to-go-ahead-next-year-55243-29252943/)
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Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 10:06:41 am
 ;) I pray that CCBC parks dept do not get a job lot of chrysthanums again next year ,tyey look cheap and nasty, not sure what Conwy and Colwyn Bay have got.Obviously they have made massive cuts in staff and flowers ,no weeding ,very little grass cutting, ok sign of the times but what will they cut next Llandudno railway station development .
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Post by: Llechwedd on August 19, 2011, 12:17:40 pm
Actually I was thinking how nice and jolly the orange and yellow flowers round the islands are looking especially in the misderable weather. Shame they do it just for that competition - isn't that cheating?
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Post by: Nemesis on August 19, 2011, 02:52:07 pm
As I drove round the roundabout, by the Carleton, I too thought how cheerful the huge Marigolds edged with blue Lobelia looked !
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Post by: DaveR on August 19, 2011, 02:55:04 pm
The Carlton display is a good one.  $good$
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Post by: Nemesis on August 19, 2011, 02:57:36 pm
Probably the only one I see as I usually have to wait to drive round the roundabout. $good$
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Post by: wrex on August 19, 2011, 04:57:53 pm
 ;) If everyone is happy with the display , no problems.
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Post by: DaveR on August 19, 2011, 05:34:12 pm
The ones on the Prom need the most attention, as far as I can see. Weeds everywhere, large patches of bare earth, half dead plants...not good.
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Post by: white rabbit on August 19, 2011, 08:19:21 pm
I walked up Mostyn Street today and also thought how nice the marigolds looked on the corners of  Trinity Square
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Post by: DaveR on August 20, 2011, 08:31:37 pm
This clever device appeared outside the Library a few weeks ago; it is a touch screen information point and contains information on everything from local cafes to the time of the next bus or train.
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Post by: Michael on August 20, 2011, 08:57:50 pm
Looks very similar to one put up in Llanrwst a fair while ago. I thought that was fine except I had some doubts about its positioning. Its in the main car park on the way to the toilets, and, maybe, walked past to the town. Apart from that, full marks.
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Post by: Blodyn on August 22, 2011, 03:05:56 pm
Escape to the country on BBC at the moment. Just done a piece on Llandudno, the pier, St Tudno's church.

Just catching up with things after a week away.

This sounds like a programme which my sister saw the last time it was on.  My sister was horrified to hear the Blue Badge Guide talking about St. Tudno's Church while in the background could be seen not the ancient church of St. Tudno but the 20th century cemetery chapel!  It was also a bit odd that the Guide was able to pronounce "Llandudno" correctly but could not do the same with "Tudno".  Blue Badge Guides are supposed to know what they are talking about, so my sister emailed the Guide in question and received a rather unsatisfactory answer about the BBC being responsible for what was shown.  It seemed to be very sloppy research and production. 
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Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2011, 11:17:33 pm
The view over Llandudno just before the thunderstorm hit this afternoon:
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Post by: dogstail on August 26, 2011, 12:14:41 am
the sky was awfully dark when i was lookin out the window at work, didnt hear any thunder although many people told me it did!!
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Post by: Trojan on August 26, 2011, 01:27:30 am
Looks like a volcano erupted in the Carneddau.  :)
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Post by: Nemesis on August 26, 2011, 10:32:46 am
Erupting water instead of lava. The roundabout at Hooson's Corner was rapidly flooding when I passed by.
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Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2011, 03:43:59 pm
Sainsburys have a Alcohol Licence application on the door of Alworths.
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Post by: wrex on August 26, 2011, 06:01:40 pm
Oh god i hope the town council don;t object and blow this one. WWW
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Post by: dwsi on August 26, 2011, 07:34:24 pm
Llandudno Railway Station on Track for Improvements | Welsh Icons News http://bit.ly/oYN6Y1 (http://bit.ly/oYN6Y1)
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Post by: Michael on August 26, 2011, 09:59:25 pm
Thunderstorms, flooding----first I've heard about that, and I was up on Llwynon Road all afternoon and evening. It rained, but nothing exceptional. Obviously very localised.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2011, 09:15:50 am
Three very heavy rainstorms last night, garage full of water this morning--- British weather ! :rage:
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Post by: Bellringer on August 27, 2011, 10:30:41 am
Well it is August Bank Holiday weekend! If you want to go some where indoors, there's a fair at Holy Trinity Church, proceeds to re-roof St Tudno's on the Orme.

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Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2011, 10:52:20 am
Agggggh-- Just got caught in this lot on the Orme with Frizzy dog. That's me finished for today-- I'm going nowhere unless it fines up. Might drift along if the weather improves.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2011, 12:41:21 pm
I notice there have been a few sellers of Rag Mags in Mostyn Street for the past few days dressed up in fancy dress.

I didn’t buy one myself because I still have a daughter at university and she came home at the end of May and will not be going back until next weekend.

Can someone please confirm they are genuine sellers even though the universities are shut?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 03:28:00 pm
I don't think they are students, put it that way. ;)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2011, 04:08:03 pm
Surplus stock maybe.  ;)
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Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2011, 04:43:41 pm
To be honest, I don't think its got anything to do with raising money for any university, it's a straightforward money making scam. Why not ask them which university they go to and see what they say?  ;)

This article explains more:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8429288.Warning_over_York____Rag_Mag____vendors/ (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8429288.Warning_over_York____Rag_Mag____vendors/)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2011, 07:42:23 pm
It's back to the Street Traders regulations again!  Need a licence - do they have one?

There is also the scam of selling badges and other small things for so called "charity" by chatting all the oldies sitting along the prom.  They will cough up for anything without even thinking.

I was at Tesco once publicising the I.A.M. Advanced Driving program and old ladies were walking up to us with a pound coin in their hands without an inkling of who or what we were!  Amazing! :D
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Post by: Michael on August 27, 2011, 08:46:24 pm
Perhaps it was your sex appeal ;)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2011, 08:58:15 pm
Well, I was displaying a lot of my personality!     L0L
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Post by: Fester on August 27, 2011, 09:19:21 pm
Yorkie is right though...
When my Mum came to visit for the Extravaganza weekend, she wandered down the prom, and then down Mostyn Street chucking money into every bucket, and into every collection tin.
She had no idea if they were genuine or not, but just felt like she should give them money.

It annoyed me, but I know I would have been seen as mean-spirited if I had challenged anyone or deterred her.  :rage:
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Post by: Nemesis on August 28, 2011, 04:03:43 pm
Just heard that there has been a nasty smash on the prom. Hope no-one was hurt.
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Post by: dogstail on August 28, 2011, 10:43:04 pm
there was a nasty smash at black cat round about this morning, hope everyone involved is ok!
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Post by: dwsi on August 30, 2011, 12:22:32 pm
BBC News - £5.4m Llandudno railway station revamp funds agreed http://bbc.in/qeE6XL (http://bbc.in/qeE6XL)
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Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2011, 07:07:18 pm
BBC News - £5.4m Llandudno railway station revamp funds agreed http://bbc.in/qeE6XL (http://bbc.in/qeE6XL)

Sounds good, if it goes ahead.  Cllr Dilwyn Roberts said that it "will great a great impression"  I'm sure that it may as long as you don't look to the Station Yard or Mostyn Estates little eyesore in front of the station.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 31, 2011, 04:26:05 pm
Sainsburys have a Alcohol Licence application on the door of Alworths.

The application for an Alcohol Licence by Sainsburys for the former Woolies site is daily from 6am – Midnight.

There is a second application to serve refreshments from 11pm – Midnight.

What is that all about?

Their application is being dealt with by a firm of solicitors down in London who will no doubt know what they are doing.
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Post by: DaveR on August 31, 2011, 09:04:42 pm
Just attended the VIP opening night of Cooneys Irish Bar - it was a great success. Good luck to Mick with his revamp of Cooneys bar.
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Post by: Fester on August 31, 2011, 10:15:26 pm
Yes, Mick Cooney is a great guy... and deserves to do well... lets hope all the local bars and businesses do well.

There were a number of 'civic dignitaries' there, weren't there Dave?

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Post by: DaveR on August 31, 2011, 11:01:06 pm
There were a number of 'civic dignitaries' there, weren't there Dave?
It was a veritable line up of Llandudno's great and good.  :laugh: I believe even the Mayor himself was sighted nibbling on a sausage roll...or two.  ;)
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Post by: Michael on August 31, 2011, 11:07:03 pm
OOhhh, so I've missed out again!!
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Post by: DaveR on August 31, 2011, 11:07:58 pm
OOhhh, so I've missed out again!!
We were sitting outside Fountains when you drove past at about 6.30ish, Mike, we did wave at you!
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Post by: Davies74 on September 03, 2011, 12:31:05 am
Hi all

Does anybody know what is happening with the old Woolworths/Allworths building on Mostyn St?
I had heard a rumour that Tesco's where interested and had outbid Poundland for the lease (which is why the Poundland signs came back down so quickly) - but nothing seems to have happened since then.
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Post by: Yorkie on September 03, 2011, 07:34:52 am
The question is old hat!   Seems that Sainsbury's will be taking a hold in the town from that place.  Search the forum and ye shall find other snippets.   :D
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Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2011, 08:40:50 am
Hi all

Does anybody know what is happening with the old Woolworths/Allworths building on Mostyn St?
I had heard a rumour that Tesco's where interested and had outbid Poundland for the lease (which is why the Poundland signs came back down so quickly) - but nothing seems to have happened since then.
Poundstretcher made the mistake of putting their signs up before signing the Lease! Sainsburys nipped in there and signed a lease themselves. They have made an application to sell alcohol and I'm sure work will start quickly once that is granted.

http://www.sainsburys-convenience.co.uk/index.html (http://www.sainsburys-convenience.co.uk/index.html)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 03, 2011, 09:05:11 am
Does anybody have an answer for me on the second part of my earlier question?


The application for an Alcohol Licence by Sainsburys for the former Woolies site is daily from 6am – Midnight.

There is a second application to serve refreshments from 11pm – Midnight.

What is that all about?

Their application is being dealt with by a firm of solicitors down in London who will no doubt know what they are doing.
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Post by: SDQ on September 03, 2011, 09:10:54 am
Maybe they plan to turn the upstairs into a cafe/restaurant?
I'm sure all will be revealed in the coming weeks/months.
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Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2011, 09:16:39 am
The application is purely for the retail sale of alcohol. The second part of the application is so that Sainsburys can stay open longer if they wish to.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 03, 2011, 10:26:29 am
Are you saying Sainsburys will only be able to stay open until midnight serving alcohol providing they sell refreshments as well?

or is there a hint that they may be able to continue selling alcohol past midnight?
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Post by: Nemesis on September 03, 2011, 10:27:49 am
 :o :o
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Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2011, 10:32:59 am
Normal Opening Times for a Sainsburys Local are 7am - 11pm. If the ones in London don't open any later, then I doubt the one in Llandudno will.
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Post by: wrex on September 04, 2011, 04:27:53 pm
 :D Who like me is expecting something to go belly up, with the station going ahead, Clarence  going ahead , sainsburys going ahead ,Caffe Nero, DFS ,and Parc Llandudno being finished i just am waiting for the bad news. WWW
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Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2011, 05:08:13 pm
You ain't gonna win the Lottery this week!     L0L
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Post by: wrex on September 04, 2011, 05:48:25 pm
already won 2 pound on scratch card
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Post by: DaveR on September 04, 2011, 05:52:12 pm
already won 2 pound on scratch card
Will Llandudno's run of good fortune never end?  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on September 04, 2011, 07:15:48 pm
I saw this street sign this morning. To my mind, this is exactly the sort of thing that the local Councillor should be sorting out. Whose Ward is it in?
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Post by: Nemesis on September 04, 2011, 08:11:02 pm
Margaret Lyon and John Boyle :o
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Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2011, 08:16:16 pm
They're too busy sorting out everything that other people have already sorted out!     _))*

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Post by: Nemesis on September 04, 2011, 09:59:19 pm
Breweries come to mind ! :o
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Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2011, 09:19:41 pm
This is a sad story from a local blogger:

http://ormeview.blogspot.com/2011/09/bullies-how-i-hate-them.html (http://ormeview.blogspot.com/2011/09/bullies-how-i-hate-them.html)
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Post by: Nemesis on September 05, 2011, 09:51:09 pm
 :( :( :(
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Post by: Fester on September 05, 2011, 10:20:47 pm
I felt the same Nemesis, so I replied to that blog, and related how I managed to stop John Wainwright bullying me!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 05, 2011, 10:47:29 pm
When I was at school the only thing that stopped bullies was a good thrashing, they soon left me alone  WWW
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Post by: Dave on September 08, 2011, 02:05:12 pm
I saw this street sign this morning. To my mind, this is exactly the sort of thing that the local Councillor should be sorting out. Whose Ward is it in?

I guess you are referring to the banana skin and not the fact it's an English name  :o
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Post by: Nemesis on September 08, 2011, 04:00:37 pm
Most of the street signs in the same area are in a similar state of repair-- no banana skins, but no paint either !
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Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2011, 05:29:48 pm
Most of the street signs in the same area are in a similar state of repair-- no banana skins, but no paint either !
The problem is they are as cheap as they come and, consequently, must be replaced rather than repainted as the plastic coating on the frame has split and the metal inside rusted badly . Cast iron ones from the Victorian era are still going strong with an occasional repaint, these aluminum ones need replacing after maybe 15 years at best. Spend a bit more to save money in the long run would be good advice to follow...
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Post by: dwsi on September 08, 2011, 09:22:42 pm
Here we go again?!

BBC News - Anger over Gloddaeth Avenue closure for 24-hour race http://bbc.in/omlcd0 (http://bbc.in/omlcd0)
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Post by: Yorkie on September 08, 2011, 09:44:00 pm
As a past Gloddaeth Avenue resident I can vouch for the amount of disruption these road closures create.

Surely the organisers of the event (and any other similar event) can sort out a route that does not inconvenience residents.   Some events create a total traffic jam of the Avenue such that even the emergency services have been prevented from attending to people requiring ambulances in the nursing homes.

Not really a case of "here we go again" if you have experienced such.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 08, 2011, 10:22:06 pm
As I said the last time there was a running event, why don't they just run up and down the prom, no need to close any roads then.
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Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2011, 10:32:28 pm
It's a good point, Mr M.E!
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Post by: Nemesis on September 09, 2011, 10:40:53 am
My first thought was " Where are the buses going to go?"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 09, 2011, 06:40:25 pm
  ;D Lets get real ,Llandudno needs all the events it can, the poor town councillors are up in arms because nobody told them[i wonder why] and aroad is going to be closed for a day.The town was only built to accomadate English tourist to all the hotels, so lets stop trying to put them off. >>>
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Post by: Yorkie on September 09, 2011, 06:48:17 pm
I think road closures and traffic jams would be more off putting to visitors than the loss of a running race that they probably didn't even know about!    WWW

Road races should be held during the late Autumn and Winter months, not whilst the Summer season still has some time on the clock!    ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 09, 2011, 06:50:24 pm
 Summer has gone and not many visitors would be put of by a few diversion signs.
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Post by: Yorkie on September 09, 2011, 06:58:18 pm
Round things!   >>>
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Post by: Fester on September 09, 2011, 10:01:13 pm
Round things!   >>>

Spheres??

Anyhow, I agree with one thing... Summer has gone allright, the town and the pier have been a lot more desolate this past week, than the corresponding week last year.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 09, 2011, 10:31:05 pm
mind you, this evening was warm enough for some open top motoring!  ^*^0   ;D
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Post by: Fester on September 10, 2011, 08:30:15 am
mind you, this evening was warm enough for some open top motoring!  ^*^0   ;D

Yes it was!!!
The golden age of motoring was revived in the Penryhn Bay / Rhos district.
Did you see those 3 Forum members bombing around, with the wind in thier ''hair''?
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Post by: Michael on September 11, 2011, 11:14:56 pm
3 members-----wind in their hair-----don't tell me you've had a transplant. ;D
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Post by: Nemesis on September 12, 2011, 09:31:50 am
 _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2011, 06:05:26 pm
The Pier was closed this afternoon although it was sunny and calm on the main section. Odd way to run a business.

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Post by: bigbadhenry on September 12, 2011, 06:38:31 pm
I saw two old dears get blown of there feet, prom end of Clonmel Street this afternoon. If you where out in the open you had to take care.
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Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2011, 07:27:19 pm
Another Hotel goes up for sale:
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Post by: Fester on September 12, 2011, 08:21:27 pm
The Pier was closed this afternoon although it was sunny and calm on the main section. Odd way to run a business.

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In response, I have to say that when I opened my kiosk at 10.30am today the wind was really very bad, and I lost some stock to damage. But the cafe and arcade were open and staffed.
I had a couple of very brave customers, but it was a real ordeal to struggle up the pier.
When the instruction to close up and leave the pier came at about Noon, it was a relief because the winds were nightmarish at that stage. Most definitely dangerous to the elderly or infirm.
The wind may have slackened off in the afternoon, I'm not sure... but by then the decision to send the staff home was made.
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Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2011, 08:25:00 pm
When I worked on the Pier, I sometimes had to go up to the Pierhead Pavilion in the Winter and it could be so rough that you had to hold on to the handrail as you walked up in order to prevent getting blown off your feet. As I've said before, you could also feel the Pierhead building rocking gently as each wave passed underneath.
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Post by: Fester on September 12, 2011, 08:28:00 pm
It was the worst wind that I have ever opened the shop in.
It was quite scary each time a massive gust hit the side and front of the kiosk.
In fact it felt like damage was imminent at any moment.
You know I hate closing, but as I said before, it was quite a reief today to be instructed to do so.
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Post by: dwsi on September 12, 2011, 08:59:03 pm
Great Orme sea wall repairs could cost Conwy Council £750k - North Wales News - News - Daily Post North Wales http://bit.ly/pXE2CD (http://bit.ly/pXE2CD)
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Post by: Dave on September 15, 2011, 08:41:57 am
Cruise liner Queen Mary 11 is sailing across Llandudno Bay on it's way to Liverpool right now !
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Post by: Fester on September 15, 2011, 08:36:52 pm
Oooh?  Would have liked to have seen that...
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 15, 2011, 09:55:58 pm
We enjoyed a return transatlantic crossing to New York on QM2 in August 2008.

Sailing under the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and then past the Statue of Liberty at 5am were sights never to be forgotten.

Absolutely wonderful.


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Post by: hollins on September 16, 2011, 07:04:01 am
Any photos Bri?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 16, 2011, 01:18:57 pm
Not from 5am in the morning, hollins, but I have tried to upload a couple of pics of the Britannia Restaurant onboard but as they are each over 3MB the system will not allow me to post them.  :rage:

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Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2011, 01:34:38 pm
Not from 5am in the morning, hollins, but I have tried to upload a couple of pics of the Britannia Restaurant onboard but as they are each over 3MB the system will not allow me to post them.  :rage:
A 3mb image is approximately 30 times larger in size than it needs to be to post adequately on here!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 16, 2011, 02:12:21 pm
What a shame.  :-}}}
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Post by: Dave on September 16, 2011, 02:41:24 pm
As it happens i had booked to go on a Mersey ferry  trip yesterday ! The views of the QM11 were stunning and better than you'd get being a passenger !!!
(http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a479/DaveWales/Merseytrip128.jpg)
This was arriving at about 11.30am
(http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a479/DaveWales/Merseytrip142.jpg)
and this was moored by the Liver Buildings which appeared relatively small when compared to the liner.
(http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a479/DaveWales/286.jpg)
Dave
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Post by: hollins on September 16, 2011, 03:09:34 pm
Dave, your pictures are brilliant. I had just logged on to put a link of a Daily Telegraph photo on here but yours are much better. here it is anyway.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/8767826/Pictures-of-the-day-16-September-2011.html?image=2 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/picturesoftheday/8767826/Pictures-of-the-day-16-September-2011.html?image=2)

Not from 5am in the morning, hollins, but I have tried to upload a couple of pics of the Britannia Restaurant onboard but as they are each over 3MB the system will not allow me to post them.  :rage:




Thanks for trying and sorry to cause you the trouble.
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Post by: Dave on September 16, 2011, 03:23:38 pm
Dave, your pictures are brilliant. I had just logged on to put a link of a Daily Telegraph photo on here but yours are much better.

Thank you !
Antony Gormley's statues are starting to look like extras in the Thriller video !
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Post by: Blodyn on September 16, 2011, 05:44:07 pm
Thanks for posting those photos, Dave, what an amazing ship! 

Did you get any photos of the Anthony Gormley statues?  It's a couple of years since I saw them and it would be interesting to see how they are getting on. 
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Post by: wrex on September 16, 2011, 06:41:03 pm
 :(  Frustration , Dfs ,Cafe Nero ,Sainsbury local ,Travelodge, completion of Parc Llandudno all set to come into town but no sign of any starting, i know half still have;nt completed plans yet ,just how i feel. :'(
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Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2011, 07:25:02 pm
I believe Caffe Nero may be a touch delayed but still hope to open before Christmas.
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Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2011, 07:38:54 pm
Several years after I first mentioned it, the car park of the Swimming Pool/Venue Cymru still floods after a heavy shower of rain. You'd have thought the management would have noticed this themselves and sorted it out long ago but nooooo:
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Post by: Michael on September 16, 2011, 08:56:45 pm
Seeing the tugs around the QM, is that why three tugs have been waiting off Colwyn Bay for around six or seven days and nights? Right through all the winds. There is only one left this evening
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Post by: Fester on September 16, 2011, 09:41:53 pm
What a shame.  :-}}}

Bri, I too had this issue with pictures being too big for the Forum last year... then Trojan recommended clicking on Dr Pic,
From there, you simply upload YOUR picture, ask it to re-size it,  save it back to your own files.... and it is now the right size!
I am still indebted to Trojan for that ... I use it all the time,  the link is here..

http://www.drpic.com/ (http://www.drpic.com/)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 16, 2011, 09:45:01 pm
Thanks, Fester.

I shall give it a try. $thanx$
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Post by: Trojan on September 17, 2011, 02:22:42 am
I am still indebted to Trojan for that ...

Just put it on the slate.  ;D
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Post by: Trojan on September 17, 2011, 02:24:53 am
Thanks, Fester.

I shall give it a try. $thanx$

Your original pic stays the same size on your desktop. Dr Pic will make a re-sized copy.  :)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2011, 06:55:03 am
Ok but what do I do next to post the resized pic?   
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Post by: hollins on September 17, 2011, 07:09:05 am
I use this one,
http://www.resizeyourimage.com/ (http://www.resizeyourimage.com/)

I ask them to be saved in my documents but you just need them to be somehwere away from your normal full size picture and then you just follow the normal way on the attachments and other options at the bottom of the reply.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2011, 08:10:53 am
Thank you, hollins.

Here are the two photographs finally of the Britannia Restaurant on QM2.

I think Dave's photographs earlier are truly amazing.

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Post by: hollins on September 17, 2011, 08:38:34 am
Great, what an amazing room!
Maybe now we will see some more of your incredible trips in the travel section?
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Post by: Trojan on September 17, 2011, 01:54:05 pm
Ok but what do I do next to post the resized pic?

Save it to your computer E.G "My Pictures" as a JPEG file then post as normal.

You will probably find it as a picresized file.

*Edit* I see you've been successful. Nice pics Bri.  :)
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Post by: Trojan on September 17, 2011, 01:57:40 pm
I think Dave's photographs earlier are truly amazing.

Yes, I agree.

Looks like we have two outstanding photographers on the forum named Dave.  D)
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Post by: Trojan on September 17, 2011, 02:16:24 pm
I saw her in 2006 when she passed her predecessor on her way into Los Angeles.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2011, 03:16:19 pm
Trojan, we had a similar experience with the first QM last March standing on the port side of another cunarder, Queen Victoria.  ;)
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Post by: CurlyCap on September 21, 2011, 02:11:51 pm
The Cruise Ship pictures are fantastic.

It's such ashame that the passenger ships that dock in Liverpool and the other ports around the UK, don't get chance to stop off in Llandudno.

It would be a fantastic sight to view the Victorian properties around the bay from the deck of a luxury liner !
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Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2011, 07:47:12 pm
Today marked the official end of Summer - the paddling pool at Craig Y Don has been drained!  ;)
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Post by: Fester on September 21, 2011, 10:04:21 pm
My first thought was " Where are the buses going to go?"

So... what exactly IS the scale of the disruption Llandudno residents face this next few days?
Is Gloddaeth closed from the roundabout to West Shore?
If so, can Upper Mostyn St still be accessed, as I have heard that the Promenade/North Parade will also be blocked off.

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Post by: Nemesis on September 22, 2011, 11:07:29 am
Just come along there from West Shore.
Notices say that the road is closed from 4pm today-- no parking on the roadway, piles of barriers ready to position.
Just wait till I need to come on there tomorrow-- my name isn't Nemesis for no reason  :twoface:
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Post by: Pendragon on September 22, 2011, 11:24:29 am
Nem I can see the Weekly News headline............local woman arrested for eating road cones  _))*
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Post by: Nemesis on September 22, 2011, 01:05:08 pm
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/big/big-smiley-004.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/free-big-smiley.php)

Any idea what flavour they are using?  Am allergic to certain nuts !!
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Post by: Llechwedd on September 22, 2011, 03:01:01 pm
Last Sunday walking down the prom. 35 wind turbines in the bay and not one turning.  Oh ..... no wind!
Previous Sunday, 35 turbines not turning.  Oh howling gale..... too windy.  Wish I had a rocket launcher.
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Post by: wrex on September 22, 2011, 03:15:56 pm
 Lets enjoy the visitors andenvent this weekend without complaints,we have a motorbike event next weekend and the car rallies in oct and nov so let be glad our hoteliers will be getting some winter trade. Ithink i can work out how to get around without useing the closed roads. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 22, 2011, 05:34:26 pm
I think i can work out how to get around without using the closed roads. :rage:

Have you any suggestions, wrex, as to how and where to watch the Wales Rally GB around the Great Orme in November?

The organisers are charging spectators a hefty £20 per person plus another £5 to park their car up on the Great Orme.

It doesn't last long and there is no mention either about there being any covered grandstands.
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Post by: wrex on September 22, 2011, 06:07:24 pm
 8) Book into the Lighthouse Bri.  :D
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Post by: wrex on September 22, 2011, 06:10:56 pm
 ;)  I can;t wait till next saturday nite to see thee Major leading 150 Honda Golldwings,, apparently he will be on the back of a trike with his chain in one hand and a pint in the other. WWW
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 22, 2011, 06:21:08 pm
The race up and down Gloddaeth Avenue tomorrow should be interesting as well.

Apparently, it starts at Noon and lasts 24 hours.

I assume runners will turn round well before Wetherspoons.
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Post by: Pendragon on September 22, 2011, 06:26:27 pm
£20 quid to watch a car race  :o how many times are they going round the Orme? Will they close off all access then? Surely you can still walk up there while the race is on  :roll:


I don't mean walk on the road obviously.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 22, 2011, 07:31:57 pm
There seems to be two special stages so I guess that means each car will go round twice.

I imagine they will close all access including all cars going up the Great Orme.

As for walking up, well I guess that will also be stopped for a few hours although some locals will more than likely be able to find ways and means to gain a vantage point.

Venue Cymru will be selling tickets but when I called in this afternoon the lady at the Box Office knew nothing about it but, apparently, I wasn’t the first to ask about tickets.  *&(


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Post by: Michael on September 22, 2011, 08:54:21 pm
Llechwedd----- you must have a sight problem, or a counting problem. Twice you counted 35 wind turbines.  Seeing double perhaps?   Maybe they might even have been turning!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 22, 2011, 09:00:22 pm
I can't see any way that the general public can be denied access on foot on to the Gt Orme, then it's just a case of finding a good spot to watch from. What date in November does the rally take place ?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 22, 2011, 09:03:03 pm
Thursday afternoon, 10 November 2011.
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Post by: Jack on September 22, 2011, 09:05:25 pm
What date in November does the rally take place ?

The Cambrian rally is on 8th October around the Orme.
The WRC rally is November 10th.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 22, 2011, 10:41:26 pm
Have you any suggestions, wrex, as to how and where to watch the Wales Rally GB around the Great Orme in November?

The organisers are charging spectators a hefty £20 per person plus another £5 to park their car up on the Great Orme.


I was really looking forward to this, but there is no way I would pay £45 to see it (2 of us plus parking)
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Post by: DaveR on September 22, 2011, 11:01:30 pm
There's no way they can enforce it, there are many hidden ways up on to the Orme...  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 23, 2011, 03:14:30 am
I was really looking forward to this, but there is no way I would pay £45 to see it (2 of us plus parking)

An alternative is to use the Park and Ride from Bodafon Fields but that will still cost £2 per person and that will only save you one pound, Merddin.

Because of the pricing, I agree with DaveR and a great many spectators will find their own way up, over and down the Great Orme to watch the event, which is exactly what CCBC will not want.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 23, 2011, 11:48:01 am
Other than having an army of marshals ( which would cost a fortune anyway) there is no way that access on foot could be prevented as there are far too many access points. I doubt that legally it could be enforced either, the council might be able to close the road but not all the public footpaths across the Gt Orme. I guess they will just have to settle for what they can get from those not prepared or able to walk.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on September 23, 2011, 11:57:01 am
Lynda Bellingham has a column in Yours magazine.  This week she says:-
"I felt as if I'd stepped back into the good old days when I arrived in the Welsh seaside resort of Llandudno on the 'Calendar Girls' tour.  My first visit, I soon discovered it has all the genteel charm of an English town of 50 years ago.  delighted with the service I received buying two new pairs of shoes - staff used shoe horns to fit them - I sent jan Harvey and Rula lenska there."

Tolsd you it's God's waiting room, Llandudno I mean not the shoe shop.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2011, 12:24:08 pm
I soon discovered it has all the genteel charm of an English town of 50 years ago.
She obviously didn't meet Bugsy on her stroll around town...  8)
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Post by: cygnusx-1 on September 23, 2011, 08:20:56 pm
http://www.walesrallygb.com/spectators/information.php (http://www.walesrallygb.com/spectators/information.php)

http://www.walesrallygb.com/2011_WRGB_Overall_Map_web_15-8-11.pdf (http://www.walesrallygb.com/2011_WRGB_Overall_Map_web_15-8-11.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 23, 2011, 09:15:38 pm
The Cambrian rally hasent been around the Orme for the last 3 or 4 years. Did they charge in the past? They certainly dont in the forest stages, all you MIGHT have had to pay would be a quid or two to some local farmers field to park.
 If the other rally think they can get away with charging, I'll give out a few directions up to a local golf course, hire of good glasses, and an aerial view.  How about a quid a time and I'll give the commentary!!!
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Post by: Fester on September 23, 2011, 09:32:48 pm
Lynda Bellingham has a column in Yours magazine.  This week she says:-
"I felt as if I'd stepped back into the good old days when I arrived in the Welsh seaside resort of Llandudno on the 'Calendar Girls' tour.  My first visit, I soon discovered it has all the genteel charm of an English town of 50 years ago.  delighted with the service I received buying two new pairs of shoes - staff used shoe horns to fit them - I sent jan Harvey and Rula lenska there."

Tolsd you it's God's waiting room, Llandudno I mean not the shoe shop.

I saw Lynda Bellingham, and Mrs Fester saw Rula Lenska later that day.
I have to say, without all that 'Loose Women' airbrush make-up, she looked about 400 years old.
Rula was croaking away and having a fag down Church Walks.
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Post by: dwsi on September 23, 2011, 09:37:41 pm
Wales Rally GB : Great Orme Stage http://bit.ly/oCHAuL (http://bit.ly/oCHAuL)

[youtube]Matt Edwards Great Orme on the Cambrian Rally 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov0vXA4xCNU#)[/youtube]
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Post by: Nemesis on September 24, 2011, 10:41:23 am
My first thought was " Where are the buses going to go?"

So... what exactly IS the scale of the disruption Llandudno residents face this next few days?
Is Gloddaeth closed from the roundabout to West Shore?
If so, can Upper Mostyn St still be accessed, as I have heard that the Promenade/North Parade will also be blocked off.

Comment on Oscar this morning from a Gloddaeth resident, the race has
 been going on all night with clapping and cheering, he saw a man , as he puts it, having a wee on the central reservation.
I can hear the commentary here-- and I don't live on Gloddaeth and as for trade to the town, it hasn't brought us or any of our friends anything ! People aren't going to sleep anywhere if they are running all night, and they won't sleep during the day for the noise !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 24, 2011, 01:54:08 pm
We have just returned from watching the climax of the 24 hour race won by an English lass, Lizzie Hawkins who ran about 150 miles in that time.

Unbelievable !!  :o

We also spoke to a few locals we know from Gloddaeth Avenue and they were highly complimentary of the organisation and did not hear any of the noise being referred to.

There are plenty of portable loos so the other comment sounds strange.

We were also down there last night when the commentary was switched off before 7pm until this morning.

We also spoke to one of the competitors from Canada after the race.

She was a lovely lady and fully appreciative of all the locals who turned out to cheer everyone towards the end of the 24 hour race.

She also told us she had already visited the Greta Orme on Thursday and had been on the Ffestiniog Railway so it is quite obvious there are definitely many benefits to our local community.

The event is being recorded for television transmission on S4C and Channel 4 over the coming weeks so could turn out to be a good advert for our town.

Anybody who did not pop down to Gloddaeth Avenue or outside Venue Cymru last night for the elite mile and 5K races missed a treat of an event.

It is such a shame there was not enough positive publicity before the event.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 24, 2011, 02:00:26 pm
Oscar strikes again !
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 24, 2011, 10:06:23 pm
It seems I did not quite hear the correct name of the young lady who won but never mind here is a report of the race:

John Pares wins men's ultra marathon in Llandudno

Flintshire runner John Pares has won the men's Commonwealth Ultra Marathon 24-hour road race in Llandudno, Conwy.

Pares, who runs with Buckley Running Club, struck gold after covering 150 miles (241km), improving on his third place at the last championship in 2009.

The overall winner was England's Lizzy Hawker, two laps ahead of Pares.

She set a world best performance for a woman, also breaking the British and Commonwealth 100 mile (161km) record and becoming the world record holder.

The contest, taking place in north Wales until Sunday, is the second Commonwealth Mountain and Ultradistance Running Championships.
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Post by: wrex on September 25, 2011, 10:12:16 am
 :)Looked very busy yesterday and with the Honda Goldwing show next weekend it looks like it will be another busy one and lets remember that is what THE TOWN WAS BUILT FOR,ATTRACTING VISITORS. Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on September 25, 2011, 01:37:44 pm
Oscar strikes again !

..and again.  8)

Despite one of the more vocal members of the Forum's threat to drive down Gloddaeth Avenue yesterday there really was no need for them to get their knickers in a twist.
There was access both sides of the road for the residents of Gloddaeth Avenue, and sure enough according to a few in the know the eevnt  brought hundreds of people into the town, many of them staying in hotels.
Most will have spent in some shops and cafes and will have helped the town far more than it will have hindered anybody.
Unless I have missed something there really was no problem with the event, what was nemesis on about?
They don't even live on Gloddaeth Avenue, perhaps they were miffed because they are so far off the tourist track they are always the the last to benefit from any influx into town.
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Post by: dwsi on September 25, 2011, 06:05:13 pm
I think congratulations is needed to the organisers for a well planned event

 $good$
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Post by: Craigydonian on September 25, 2011, 07:06:57 pm
Have you any suggestions, wrex, as to how and where to watch the Wales Rally GB around the Great Orme in November?

The organisers are charging spectators a hefty £20 per person plus another £5 to park their car up on the Great Orme.


I was really looking forward to this, but there is no way I would pay £45 to see it (2 of us plus parking)

The Cambrian Rally will run twice around the Marine Drive on the afternoon of October 8th and it's an opportunity see top British competitors. The rally starts on the prom by the cenotaph at 8am, with leading contenders starting between 9am and 10am.
Wales Rally GB is the British round of the World Rally Championship. I will attract many thousands of spectators and the viewing charge will hopefully ensure the numbers on  Orme aren't excessive. This is by far the biggest event ever to come to Llandudno.
 TV coverage will be shown worldwide and the town couldn't afford that sort of publicity.
More info on the Cambrian rally on www.cambrianrally.co.uk (http://www.cambrianrally.co.uk)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 25, 2011, 07:43:16 pm
Quote

 'It will attract many thousands of spectators and the viewing charge will hopefully ensure the numbers on  Orme aren't excessive.'

end quote

yes I think £20 each should reduce the numbers! :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 25, 2011, 09:18:10 pm
Oscar strikes again !

..and again.  8)

Despite one of the more vocal members of the Forum's threat to drive down Gloddaeth Avenue yesterday there really was no need for them to get their knickers in a twist.
There was access both sides of the road for the residents of Gloddaeth Avenue, and sure enough according to a few in the know the eevnt  brought hundreds of people into the town, many of them staying in hotels.
Most will have spent in some shops and cafes and will have helped the town far more than it will have hindered anybody.
Unless I have missed something there really was no problem with the event, what was nemesis on about?
They don't even live on Gloddaeth Avenue, perhaps they were miffed because they are so far off the tourist track they are always the the last to benefit from any influx into town.

I like events, I like them a lot!  I love the extravaganza, and anything that creates a buzz around town.
I like visitors too.  I am bound to aren't I? , for many years I WAS one.
I would be interested though, to hear from anyone who 'hand-on-heart' noticed any additional revenue of any kind from this event.  There are other hoteliers who are members of this forum,  ... so I am just interested to know what people think.
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Post by: wrex on September 25, 2011, 10:14:39 pm
 We walked past friday night and saw Jasopn Mohamed from the BBC doing a piece on the event .Only us watching though.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 26, 2011, 04:35:07 am
I would be interested though, to hear from anyone who 'hand-on-heart' noticed any additional revenue of any kind from this event.  There are other hoteliers who are members of this forum,  ... so I am just interested to know what people think.

We saw two competitors sitting outside the Kings Arms yesterday afternoon, when we were passing, and there was a celebration party held last night in the St Georges Hotel which has been the HQ for the event over the past few days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on September 27, 2011, 02:50:12 pm
It's a beautiful day today!
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Post by: hollins on September 27, 2011, 03:30:55 pm
You are right Blodyn. It was beautiful in LLandudno today.

Sorry, but my photo is going to lower the tone......
Another enticing shopping opportunity in Llandudno today!
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Post by: DaveR on September 27, 2011, 03:44:11 pm
I saw those when I walked past earlier!
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Post by: hollins on September 27, 2011, 03:48:24 pm
How many did you buy DaveR?
Sorry if I depleted the stocks!
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Post by: Blodyn on September 27, 2011, 04:32:22 pm
Where was that, Hollins?  I must rush out and buy some!!!  :o
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Post by: hollins on September 27, 2011, 04:36:37 pm
Can't give a secret like that away!
Well done for your ebay purchase. Nice that it went to someone from the area.
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Post by: emma p on September 27, 2011, 09:15:33 pm
Theyre called 'snuggle buddies' !! my daughters going mad for a unicorn one for christmas.....how much were they ? Theyre surely not the 'real thing'....theyre £20 to buy online.
When we were on holiday they had them in the shop on the Orme....a lamb, £7. Bargain ! She has slept with it every night since !
Kids eh !!!  ;)
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Post by: hollins on September 27, 2011, 09:27:47 pm
O'h Emma, I am so sorry I have cropped the photo so much that I have got rid of the price. DaveR might remember because he saw them as well.
Just goes to show what I know. I thought they were hideous!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on September 27, 2011, 09:48:40 pm
Well, Emma, I must admit that I didn't know what they were and I thought they looked as if they'd been squashed!  Do you put them in the microwave to warm them up?
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Post by: dwsi on September 27, 2011, 10:02:04 pm
snuggle buddies are for sale on amazon.co.uk http://amzn.to/n4HlLR (http://amzn.to/n4HlLR)
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Post by: emma p on September 27, 2011, 10:03:06 pm
theyve got a velcro tag underneath so they roll up to 'tuck your nightie in' !! and then look more like the animal. our little girl just uses it for an extra pillow. theyre quite cute really.....especially if youre 5 !!!!
The unicorn is very popular.....everytime i look it up to order one theyre out of stock.
I suppose theyre a modern day nightdress case really !   ;D
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Post by: emma p on September 27, 2011, 10:05:56 pm
Thanks dwsi......but alas no purple unicorn !!!!   $good$
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Post by: emma p on September 27, 2011, 10:09:00 pm
Sorry, i stand corrected.....' Huggle Buddies'. But £20 !!!! Thats why our lamb from the summit was such a bargain.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 28, 2011, 07:28:51 am
I was really looking forward to this, but there is no way I would pay £45 to see it (2 of us plus parking)

ME, when you read the Terms and Conditions for the Wales Rally GB there are also booking and processing fees to be added pushing the total cost to over £50.

I would not mind but in the past we never used to pay a penny to go onto the Orme to watch the Lombard RAC Rally.


A booking fee of £0.50 per ticket for tickets with a value of £1.00 and £1.70 per ticket for all other tickets will apply on credit and debit card transactions and also a processing fee of £5.25 for transactions requiring postage.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 28, 2011, 08:14:59 am
Bri,
      I was there 30 years ago on the Orme watching the 'Proper' rally and I do not recall paying, so how they expect people to pay that much to see it now I don't know!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on September 28, 2011, 06:38:39 pm
I took in the Orme stages in the early 80s and there was never a charge for spectators and the cars were extremely powerful at that time with Hannu Mikola winning everything in the Audi Quattro.

I parked in Craig y Don as the rally traffic created a few bottle necks the nearer you go to the Orme.....for £20.00 I would expect toilet facilities and park and ride on to the stage....so I wonder what does the charge cover?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 28, 2011, 07:39:59 pm
Is the Orme public land?      $walesflag$
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Post by: Nemesis on September 29, 2011, 11:49:49 am
Good pic. of Llandudno pier in today's Daily Express-- Fester's shop very clear in the foreground !
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Post by: white rabbit on September 29, 2011, 04:30:34 pm
I saw that too!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 29, 2011, 10:35:57 pm
I didn't .... what was the article?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 30, 2011, 08:23:51 am
£1bn boost for late summer sun.
Usual blurb about tourism, but for once Llandudno was mentioned and a pic of the people on the pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 30, 2011, 11:24:27 pm
I checked my till, and I couldn't find any trace of that £1 billion.... but then again, I don't sell ice cream..
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 01, 2011, 12:34:28 pm
Certainly brought more people to town--Seagulls getting fat on all the ice creams!
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Post by: wrex on October 01, 2011, 09:34:30 pm
 $walesflag$   Really enjoyed tonights Honda Goldwings parade around town and on the prom ,there were thousands lining the streets and on the prom ,you could have been anywere in the world walking along the prom in october short sleeved shirt ,brilliant. ZXZ
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Post by: outlawowl on October 02, 2011, 07:21:14 pm
Good to see so many people watching the Goldwing rally. . . .just like a summer night . . . and even the smaller hotels and B and Bs seemed pretty full - not bad for the end of September.
However, I did see one seafront hotel 'closed for maintainance' . . . they must be feeling sick about missing out on the good weather
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 02, 2011, 09:29:29 pm
The Honda Goldwing procession was excellent, a lot of noise and colour.. and the streets were very busy with people watching it.

I also noticed that the bars and restaurants were inordinately busy for this time of year.

Top notch!  $good$ &well& (*) (*)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 02, 2011, 10:20:46 pm
I agree but I did also notice that not every cafe in Mostyn Street stayed open past 6pm.   :o
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Post by: wrex on October 03, 2011, 08:20:48 pm
 :( Just been watching a programme on Tenby ,their flower display was far superior to ours ,i know most people on the forum thought ours were good but i think this year there was no maintainace of ours and the grass was not cut regular. >>>
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Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2011, 09:06:33 pm
I think the praise was directed at the Carlton Roundabout area, the rest of the town & prom was not so great. Certainly plenty of room for improvement.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 05, 2011, 09:17:20 pm
 :roll: Sorry to be dissmissive about the Town Council but this sign at the top of Penrhyn hill was put there when it was the main rd into town, now forgive me but the majority of traffic comes into town down Conwyroad so lets have a Llandudno Welcomes you sign at the top of  Conwy rd ,WASTE MONEY AT THE TOP OF
PENRHYNHILL IF THEY LIKE BUT PUT A SIGN WHERE IT WILL BE SEEN BY VISITORS TO THE TOWN. ££$
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Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2011, 09:37:32 pm
Fester and I saw this odd chap on the Prom by the Cenotaph. He was dancing away, waving his tambourine about and either singing or shouting. Was he performing or just a touch loopy?
Quite by chance, I solved the little mystery of who this guy was. His name was 'Crazy Colin' and he made a habit of performing in public. Sadly, he died suddenly only a month after we saw him in Llandudno

crazy Colin day trip to Rhyl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oa3WcVgX2M#)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 06, 2011, 08:16:10 am
:roll: Sorry to be dissmissive about the Town Council but this sign at the top of Penrhyn hill was put there when it was the main rd into town, now forgive me but the majority of traffic comes into town down Conwyroad so lets have a Llandudno Welcomes you sign at the top of  Conwy rd ,WASTE MONEY AT THE TOP OF
PENRHYNHILL IF THEY LIKE BUT PUT A SIGN WHERE IT WILL BE SEEN BY VISITORS TO THE TOWN. ££$

Why do we need a sign anyway?   What a waste of our dosh!     :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on October 06, 2011, 08:33:51 am
It wouldn't have the same impact as the one at Penrhynside. I think the whole point was that after seeing the sign you had the spectacular view of the bay & the Orme in all it's majesty as you drove in to town. Driving down Conwy Road all you see is lots of buildings,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 06, 2011, 06:41:15 pm
I was driving to Llandudno at about 2.30pm and opposite the exit of the Craigside Premier Inn there was an old gentleman sitting behind the wheel of a silver car that had just been in an accident and the car had suffered severe front damage.
The old gentleman looked visibly shaken and was being attended to by someone in the car parked behind him and in my rear view mirror it looked like an unmarked car from the emergency services. As we drove further on a Police car was driving up in that direction with the lights flashing and siren on.
I don't know how the accident arose but hope that no one was seriously hurt as a result.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 06, 2011, 07:24:52 pm
We saw the same incident.  We were driving from town towards Penrhyn Bay.  The blue light car was an unmarked police car and this was at the scene along with a marked traffic van.    A police Officer was apparently taking a statement from a lady at the roadside.  I could not see evidence of any other vehicle having been involved so it may have been moved.   The damage to the front of the  car was extensive and I can only think that it ran iunto the back of another vehicle waiting to turn right into Craigside Manor.

Seat-belt and air bag should have prevented any serious injury.
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Post by: DaveR on October 06, 2011, 08:22:44 pm
What a torrential hailstorm there was this evening, at about 5.30. I was having a meal in the Fat Cat and it sounded pretty loud inside, banging on the skylights. Can't have been pleasant if you were caught out in it. I even left my fabulous rib eye steak to take a pic, was a touch late though:
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Post by: wrex on October 07, 2011, 07:18:33 am
 :) Dave ,you are spending far too much time in the pub. Z**
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Post by: DaveR on October 07, 2011, 08:09:32 am
:) Dave ,you are spending far too much time in the pub. Z**
:laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on October 07, 2011, 10:15:28 am
What a torrential hailstorm there was this evening, at about 5.30. I was having a meal in the Fat Cat and it sounded pretty loud inside, banging on the skylights. Can't have been pleasant if you were caught out in it. I even left my fabulous rib eye steak to take a pic, was a touch late though:

I had to drive to the Junction at 6pm and the road out of Deganwy was quite deep in water, it was perishing cold too-- the temperature, not the water, before some wise guy asks if I was paddling !
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Post by: wrex on October 09, 2011, 03:36:12 pm
 :o Just walked around the Gt Orme, quite busy lots of litter from yesterday and one whole in the wall, i take it a car demolished it. ZXZ
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Post by: Nemesis on October 09, 2011, 04:57:12 pm
You were spotted on your perambulation !
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Post by: wrex on October 09, 2011, 05:18:05 pm
 :o Pardon. ZXZ
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Post by: Hugo on October 09, 2011, 05:55:14 pm
:o Just walked around the Gt Orme, quite busy lots of litter from yesterday and one whole in the wall, i take it a car demolished it. ZXZ

I walked around it too and it was hard going walking against the wind.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 09, 2011, 05:58:19 pm
Walk dear walk !! :o
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Post by: wrex on October 13, 2011, 05:42:31 pm
 :o Oscar has a well written piece about Llandudno,well worth a read. ££$
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Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2011, 09:48:59 pm
Lot of activity outside the old Woolies store this afternoon, with two fire engines and a control car arriving with sirens and lights. Turned out nothing was going on, as they all disappeared after 5 minutes!
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Post by: TheMedz on October 24, 2011, 06:38:20 pm
Fingers crossed and not wishing to jinx it too much - Looking at the weather forecast http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/wl_forecast_warnings.html?day=1 (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/wl/wl_forecast_warnings.html?day=1)parts of the West coast of England and Wales have had a torrid day. Hopefully we just missed it!!!!!! but I suppose "Day ain't over yet".
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Post by: DaveR on October 30, 2011, 08:31:05 pm
The Fountains Hearse has been out and about all week, promoting the Halloween nights at Fountains bar.   Perhaps that's where Trojan has been hiding all this time?
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Post by: wrex on November 03, 2011, 09:24:35 pm
 ;D No matter what people think of Mr Dickens he certainly spends some money advertising his buissnesses. :-X
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Post by: DaveR on November 03, 2011, 09:40:12 pm
;D No matter what people think of Mr Dickens he certainly spends some money advertising his buissnesses. :-X
Very true. Perhaps he'd like an advert on the Forum? $good$
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Post by: hollins on November 03, 2011, 11:59:53 pm
We had a pleasant evening in Llandudno tonight. We have friends staying and had tickets booked for the opera Barber of Seville at the Venue Cymru.
We parked near the Washington and walked down the prom with a big black cloud behind us. We were aiming for the Seahorse restaurant.
Thank you Dave R for your recommendation on a previous thread about favourite restaurants. I have been meaning to go there for ages and when I remembered about the 4.30 opening time I realised it would be ideal for a meal before the opera.
We all had a fish dish, one lobster, one hake, one sea bass and one monkfish and they were all delicious.
I can't be certain but I think the Barber of Seville was in there eating a big plate of Conwy mussels.
The waitress told us that they stay open late for the two weeks of the year that the opera is on.
Opera isn't my cup of tea but at least this one is light hearted and the rest of the party really enjoyed it.
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Post by: hollins on November 04, 2011, 12:08:47 am
What a shame that M&S can't keep their shop neat and tidy in Llandudno. I noticed peeling paint over both doorways tonight.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 04, 2011, 08:26:42 am
Tch Tch - I think I'll have to sell my shares!    _))*
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Post by: DaveR on November 04, 2011, 09:44:08 am
What a shame that M&S can't keep their shop neat and tidy in Llandudno. I noticed peeling paint over both doorways tonight.
I've noticed this, as well. Their signage is not well maintained either, the large illuminated sign on the side of the building hasn't worked properly for years, with half the letters not lighting up. The second store on the other side of the church isn't much better, with a rusting verandah that has plants growing out of it. You'd have thought the store manager would wander outside occasionally and take a look at the state of his store?

Every good manager knows the difference between a good and great business comes down to attention to detail.
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Post by: wrex on November 04, 2011, 02:54:57 pm
 ;) With Sainsbury local coming down the road and taking a good percentage of M & S food trade i think they need to up their game and quick or their may be a few job loses in their food department. :(
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Post by: DaveR on November 05, 2011, 10:59:50 pm
The coast road is currently completely closed between Bryn Y Bia and the top of Penrhyn Hill, looks like a crash.
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Post by: wrex on November 06, 2011, 12:13:33 pm
How where the new fireworks last night, i know they changed firms and this was the first time i had watched from the house and not gone onto the prom.I thought they where not as good BUT  tobe fair i was watching from afar so hard to say, what were the members views?. :-[
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Post by: DaveR on November 06, 2011, 12:50:03 pm
I enjoyed them from up on the colonnades, seemed like a good show but I hadn't been for several years so hard to say if better or worse than last year. Was it supposed to be set to music, we couldn't hear any?
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Post by: CurlyCap on November 06, 2011, 05:41:35 pm
Well our children thought the fireworks were fantastic and we were in a great spot at the bottom of Happy Valley. I thought there was going to be music too but it didn't spoil it that there wasn't, we had a great night !  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on November 06, 2011, 10:16:02 pm
Grabbed this photo of the fireworks (only done with a cheap camera balanced on a railing, so not top quality!):
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Post by: CurlyCap on November 06, 2011, 11:00:03 pm
Wow, that's a great pic DaveR. I had to delete all ours, they were utter rubbish! How cheap is your cheap camera then? (Ours was about 80 quid in the sale and I can never take a good pic at night!)
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Post by: DaveR on November 07, 2011, 09:06:58 am
The coast road is currently completely closed between Bryn Y Bia and the top of Penrhyn Hill, looks like a crash.
A MAN was seriously injured and two others suffered minor injuries after a smash in Llandudno on Saturday evening.

Emergency crews were alerted to the incident outside the Craigside Inn on Colwyn Road at 8.18pm.

A police spokesman said a vehicle had collided with another vehicle and struck a lamppost.

Three ambulances and two fire appliances were sent to the scene.

A North Wales Fire Service spokeswoman said firefighters from Llandudno used cutting equipment to release the casualty from the wreckage of the vehicle.

“While he was being cut out, paramedics, assisted by fire crews, cared for the casualty,” the spokeswoman added.

A Wales Ambulance NHS Trust spokesman said the man was unconscious in the vehicle.

“He was taken by ambulance to Ysbyty Glan Clwyd in Bodelwyddan for treatment.

“Two other casualties, described by paramedics at the scene as ‘walking wounded’, were also treated at the scene and taken to hospital for further treatment.”

The condition of the injured man was not known.

Joan and Alf Nugent were walking to the pub to meet friends.

“We’d been to see the firework display on the prom and heard a loud noise. We knew it wasn’t a firework and it looked a nasty crash,” said Joan.

Police are appealing for witnesses to the incident. Anyone with information is asked to call 101, 0845 607 1001 or 845 607 1002.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/11/07/three-taken-to-hospital-after-llandudno-crash-55578-29731987/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2011/11/07/three-taken-to-hospital-after-llandudno-crash-55578-29731987/)
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Post by: DaveR on November 07, 2011, 09:12:58 am
Wow, that's a great pic DaveR. I had to delete all ours, they were utter rubbish! How cheap is your cheap camera then? (Ours was about 80 quid in the sale and I can never take a good pic at night!)
It's a Nikon S640, you can get one for about £100. It's ok but nothing special.

Taking good photos at night means either using a tripod or sitting the camera on top of a wall or similar. The long shutter speeds needed for night exposures means that trying to do it hand held will just result in a blurred mess. Ideally, for something like the fireworks, you would set up a camera on a tripod and choose an exposure of about 5-10 seconds, that way you capture the fireworks from the moment it leaves the ground to it exploding in the sky (like in my pic above). You could also have a a far longer exposure, like 20 seconds, and capture several fireworks in the same photo.
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Post by: Blodyn on November 07, 2011, 11:10:00 am
That's a great photo of the fireworks, Dave.  I went down on to the beach with some friends and we thoroughly enjoyed the show.  A few of the fireworks seemed to come up from the sea - does anyone know how they did that? 
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Post by: Llechwedd on November 07, 2011, 11:39:04 am
Rowing boat?
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Post by: Blodyn on November 07, 2011, 12:40:54 pm
I did wonder about a boat but I thought that it might be a bit difficult to "Light blue touch paper and retire"!
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Post by: Yorkie on November 07, 2011, 01:00:17 pm
Mounted on a raft and detonated by remote control!  Maybe!    ZXZ
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Post by: CurlyCap on November 07, 2011, 01:27:45 pm
Thanks for the info on the night shots DaveR, I'll keep trying and hopefully perfect them for next year !

As Blodyn said, some of them did come up from the sea and were very effective. (Although a friend of ours watched a firework display in Benidorm last year where they set them off in the sea and the next morning the beach was covered in dead fish !!)

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Post by: Fester on November 07, 2011, 01:53:32 pm
Whether you rated the fireworks in Llandudno as good or poor, spare a thought for these poor so and so's in Oban.

Due to a technical hitch, the whole display which was due to last half an hour, went off in 50 seconds!

Here is the short but sweet display...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-15611160 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-15611160)
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Post by: Yorkie on November 07, 2011, 02:23:45 pm
Priceless!    L0L
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Post by: DaveR on November 07, 2011, 04:35:02 pm
Just been past the pier entrance and noticed that the amusement arcade was closed. Theres a notice on the door saying that they will be closed on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays during the Winter. Never known that happen before, they've always opened every day - Six Piers must be struggling.
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Post by: Fester on November 07, 2011, 10:47:43 pm
Just been past the pier entrance and noticed that the amusement arcade was closed. Theres a notice on the door saying that they will be closed on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays during the Winter. Never known that happen before, they've always opened every day - Six Piers must be struggling.

Ha!  If thats the case, I shall open MORE...
Because the small amount amount of money spent on that pier at this time of year, may well drft towards me!

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Post by: emma p on November 08, 2011, 09:56:47 pm
You are right Blodyn. It was beautiful in LLandudno today.

Sorry, but my photo is going to lower the tone......
Another enticing shopping opportunity in Llandudno today!

Can anyone tell me if the 'Huggle Buddie' shop/stall is still open ? (and where is it?).....we're coming up next weekend so i can get one for my 5yr old.
thanks  ;)
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Post by: hollins on November 08, 2011, 10:26:22 pm
Hi Emma,
It  was the Home store on Mostyn Street, next door to Pebbles fish and chip shop and near the bus stop.
There were some there when I walked past last week but I am not sure they were exactly the same as before. This time they were mainly very bright lime green. They were on a table outside the shop.
Hope you have a lovely holiday and you get better weather than your last trip.
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Post by: Nemesis on November 09, 2011, 09:45:51 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-15593001 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-15593001)
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Post by: Fester on November 09, 2011, 10:20:46 am
Seems to me that the writer of that article has never been to Llandudno.
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Post by: emma p on November 09, 2011, 07:26:29 pm
Hi Emma,
It  was the Home store on Mostyn Street, next door to Pebbles fish and chip shop and near the bus stop.
There were some there when I walked past last week but I am not sure they were exactly the same as before. This time they were mainly very bright lime green. They were on a table outside the shop.
Hope you have a lovely holiday and you get better weather than your last trip.
Thanks Hollins, Ill have a look. I know where that is.......im sure its Pebbles that has a gluten free menu for my dad, which makes him very happy !
Im so looking forward to the break, short and sweet as it will be. We came in November last year in all the snow ! Dont think its forecast yet this year, so fingers crossed for it to be dry at least.
 :)
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Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2011, 07:45:49 pm
I think its Barnacles that offers the gluten free menu. I've tried both Barnacles and Pebble this summer and was very unimpressed with the portion sizes in both of them, just a tourist rip off in my opinion. I still think the Galleon in Conwy offers the best chips in the local area. &shake&
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Post by: SDQ on November 09, 2011, 08:40:35 pm
Even better than Enochs???  ???
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Post by: Pendragon on November 09, 2011, 08:55:12 pm
Even better than Enochs???  ???
Nowhere's better than Enochs  D)
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Post by: DaveR on November 09, 2011, 09:33:25 pm
Enochs is pretty good!  $good$
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Post by: Pendragon on November 09, 2011, 10:08:56 pm
Love their homemade Steak and onion pie car deal.  $walesflag$
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Post by: wrex on November 11, 2011, 11:21:05 am
 Did the town council turn on the lights on Mostyn st, lets be honest we all know this was a WORLD rally and Llandudno was in the limelight ,so if those lights where not turned on why, afterall they are only summer lights. :rage:
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Post by: Fester on November 11, 2011, 12:04:41 pm
Even better than Enochs???  ???
Nowhere's better than Enochs  D)

The body-builder guy that runs West Shore Fisheries on Gt Ormes Rd (next to the Post Office) ...
He makes a great fish and chips.
Even if he didn't, I wouldn't dare tell him...  :laugh: :laugh:

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Post by: emma p on November 11, 2011, 12:16:31 pm
lol Fester, me niether ! We had our chips from there in the summer.....not bad at all. Bet he's a big teddy bear really !!!  ;)
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Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2011, 12:20:02 pm
Did the town council turn on the lights on Mostyn st, lets be honest we all know this was a WORLD rally and Llandudno was in the limelight ,so if those lights where not turned on why, afterall they are only summer lights. :rage:
One thing that was noticeable was that the street lighting along Mostyn Street is so poor that the Council had to hire in pole mounted floodlights for the evening event. Quite a few of the floodlights on the buildings are not working or pointing the wrong way...and have been like that for some time. Isn't it time that the original ornate lampposts were brought back into use with the latest LED fittings and then these unreliable 30+ year old floodlights could be scrapped?
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Post by: wrex on November 11, 2011, 07:19:26 pm
Omg don;t give them another excuse not to concentrate on the xmas illuminations. L0L
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Post by: wrex on November 12, 2011, 02:01:44 pm
 :( Ok im the only one bothered, no obsessed with the lack of effort in Llandudno at xmas ,having written to every town councillor last January too express my disgust at the lights im waiting to see the results.I know i bleat on but it would be nice to know what the other forum members thinkj. :twoface:
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Post by: Yorkie on November 12, 2011, 04:33:27 pm
I agree with you Wrex, as you must know from my regular postings about the deficiencies of this Town Council.   Dealing with them is just like peeing in the wind!     More news after I have had my meeting with them.  But as they are dragging their feet, Lord knows when that will be.

And if your a Town Councillor and your reading this, bear in mind the elections are just round the corner!     :laugh:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on November 12, 2011, 04:49:46 pm
There were two council vehicles out last Sunday morning replacing bulbs all along the promenade.

Although it made sense with all the expected visitors to the resort on Thursday, it may have been advantageous to have done it last Saturday morning before the annual firework display.
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Post by: Blodyn on November 12, 2011, 08:10:19 pm
Wrex, I admire all the effort you put into trying to get the Christmas lights improved - keep it up!
 ££$
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Post by: Pendragon on November 12, 2011, 10:13:50 pm
So do I Wrex....dog with a bone comes to mind and I admire anyone like that  $good$
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Post by: wrex on November 13, 2011, 10:01:36 am
 ;D Woof woof. :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on November 13, 2011, 10:14:48 am
So do I Wrex....dog with a bone comes to mind and I admire anyone like that  $good$

It is just a shame that there apears to be only one or two dogs doing the barking!    Maybe this Forum could band together and let the Council know that there are more than a couple of baying hounds on their trail!  (insert baying hound smiley)

The Government now react to "on-line" petitions, maybe the Town and County Councils would re-act to a Three Forums Petition?   How about it?    ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2011, 01:08:53 pm
A very well attended parade through town and ceremony at the Cenotaph this morning. Some photos will follow later.
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Post by: Bellringer on November 13, 2011, 01:20:34 pm
And a full Holy Trinity Church with people standing too, prior to the parade
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Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2011, 01:35:32 pm
I noticed just now that a power supply is being installed outside the Library, presumably so that the decorative lighting in the trees can be reinstated.  $good$
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Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2011, 02:53:11 pm
Lights being wound round the trees on the roundabout at Hooson's corner. Workers standing in the pansies !! :o
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Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2011, 03:27:54 pm
Remembrance Sunday Ceremony:
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Post by: Fester on November 13, 2011, 04:32:30 pm
So do I Wrex....dog with a bone comes to mind and I admire anyone like that  $good$

It is just a shame that there apears to be only one or two dogs doing the barking!    Maybe this Forum could band together and let the Council know that there are more than a couple of baying hounds on their trail!  (insert baying hound smiley)

The Government now react to "on-line" petitions, maybe the Town and County Councils would re-act to a Three Forums Petition?   How about it?    ZXZ
 
Well, seeing as Greg Robbins is sorting out the Pier Pavilion, (as he promised to do in his Mayoral year) then thats one thing less to worry about. So we might as well help Wrex out with this.
Can't wait to see what Greg manages to get done, the sands of time are running out!
Still awaiting any kind of update on that subject, strangely enough.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 13, 2011, 06:39:55 pm
The only (major) problem is that the Town Council is run, and controlled by the "old brigade".  Those long serving Councillors who have their arses glued to the seats and will not change their habits of a lifetime for anyone.  You have such as Philip Evans who has served been a Councillor for 30+ years, Brian Bertola, Jack Finch (plus Daughter), John Boyle, Terry Davies, Michael Williams (who? did I hear you say?), Margaret Lyons, Mike Holt (supported by his Son), and a few other old hands.

Until these hang up their boots or their vice like grip on their positions is released, we shall always have a Council made up of those who look after themselves rather than the people of the Town.

Wrex knows! ;)

The last line on the first page of the Council web site says it all;
 "Please note that this site is still under development. "

Just like everything else after years of inactivity!
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Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2011, 06:59:35 pm
Well, seeing as Greg Robbins is sorting out the Pier Pavilion, (as he promised to do in his Mayoral year) then thats one thing less to worry about. So we might as well help Wrex out with this.
Can't wait to see what Greg manages to get done, the sands of time are running out!
Still awaiting any kind of update on that subject, strangely enough.
To be fair, he's been busy standing on a podium:
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Post by: Blodyn on November 14, 2011, 02:18:35 pm
Nice photos of the Remembrance Parade, DaveR, and the last one shows what a good turn out there was at the Cenotaph - it's a shame that the PA system wasn't as good.  I was standing on the seaward side of the Cenotaph and with the wind blowing nobody there could hear what was being said.  We could hear that Revd Bob Griffiths was speaking (and he's got quite a powerful voice) but couldn't make out his words.  It was much better last year, when I was in a similar place, so presumably the wind was stronger or in a different direction this year. 
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Post by: Llechwedd on November 14, 2011, 02:28:06 pm
Yes you are right Blodyn unless you were right opposite, the pa system was rubbish.  It's not the wind as the same problem happened last year  They need a better system.  By the way should he have kept his hat on in church and when he was reading the lesson?  Is it some mayoral prerogative?
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Post by: Fester on November 14, 2011, 02:35:57 pm
What?  The Mayor saw fit to keep his hat in Church?      &shake& &shake& &shake&
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 14, 2011, 02:48:39 pm
the pa system was rubbish

Was there difficulty in hearing the 2 min silence?  :)

We were on the platform of the Festiniog Railway in Porthmadog waiting to go on the Welsh Highland Railway to Beddgelert. They had the 2 min silence there on the platform and delayed the train by 10 mins which I thought was very good to see!
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Post by: Nemesis on November 14, 2011, 05:53:23 pm
As there was no maroon, but only a drum beat alot of people kept on talking, not knowing that the silence had begun.
Couldn't hear either !
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Post by: wrex on November 15, 2011, 04:52:41 pm
As the Celtic Fayre gets underway im not sure where i stand on its value to Llandudno.Ithink that a few coaches come in especially on the back of the Fayre and i wonder what the people who come on the coaches make of the Fayre Im not knocking it but i must admit it does;nt get my attraction or attendance. :-X
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Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2011, 05:30:20 pm
Any shopkeeper who wants to, is now allowed to display large advertisments that distract motorists, exactly where they please.

Or so it seems providing you are blocking one of the main streets with a "fair" selling overpriced products - that is after paying £1 to walk into the tented "shop".

It does absolutely nothing for any local shop selling the same or similar products.   If we must have it put the whole shebang on Bodafon fields out of the way.
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Post by: Nemesis on November 15, 2011, 09:50:00 pm
Hey hang on a mo, what about the poor b----s like myself standing selling Christmas Cards for the kiddies Hospice. It was bad enough last year standing in a wood hut in the perishing cold with no heat and proper light (it's not allowed) let alone standing in a load of mud.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 16, 2011, 09:24:51 am
In the Armed Forces one is always told, "Never volunteer for anything!"    ;)
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Post by: TheMedz on November 16, 2011, 10:15:59 am
Some filming going on on Old Road this morning with a fair sized crew.

Personally I've never seen the actor being filmed before. Any ideas ?
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Post by: Pendragon on November 16, 2011, 10:28:06 am
Surley those 70s sideburns are stuck on and what's he doing with a parasol?
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Post by: hollins on November 16, 2011, 10:52:40 am
He looks a bit of all right to me but I agree better without the sideburns!
Maybe he would like to borrow something from my umbrella collection?

 ;D
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Post by: Pendragon on November 16, 2011, 11:14:41 am
Hehe he is a bit lush, I'm sure I've seen him before, he looks like Guy Martin (he has the most gorgeous smile)

OMG it really does look like Guy Martin....my Mums can wait I'm off for a stroll up the Orme people  :-*
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Post by: hollins on November 16, 2011, 11:23:56 am
I think this must be the programme they are making. It says he is going to help preserve the pier!

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/guy-martin-building-britain (http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/guy-martin-building-britain)
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Post by: Llechwedd on November 16, 2011, 12:06:07 pm
Who?

If he single handedly - yeah right - is going to save the pier why was he up the Orme on the tram track?
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Post by: Fester on November 16, 2011, 12:31:06 pm
Does the Pier need saving then?
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Post by: DaveR on November 16, 2011, 12:44:27 pm
Does the Pier need saving then?
Well...if what I've heard is correct...  :-X
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Post by: SDQ on November 16, 2011, 01:04:28 pm
Some filming going on on Old Road this morning with a fair sized crew.

Personally I've never seen the actor being filmed before. Any ideas ?

That's no actor but an insane motorcyclist! lol

GUY MARTIN TT Isle of Man Lap on-board Honda 1000 - 1 of 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXc29ZgutI#)

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Post by: hollins on November 16, 2011, 04:20:52 pm
I'm a bit slow. I just realised that Guy Martin is that lovely lad from the programme "The Boat that Guy Built."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00z8jdv (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00z8jdv)

My mum loves him! I have just emailed her your picture Medz. I hope that is okay?


You are right about his smile Pendragon. I hope you found him!
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Post by: wrex on November 19, 2011, 08:51:51 pm
 :o CONGRATULATIONS to the committee of the CELTIC WINTER FAYRE for i have not seen Llandudno that busy on a winter weekend ,there were plenty of coaches in for the day so well done to all concerned, of course there has to be a negative ,which is all those visitors have left townthinking what a  miserable council putting no xmas lights on for a xmas fayre. :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on November 19, 2011, 10:41:54 pm
Certainly very busy in town today!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 20, 2011, 09:00:45 am
Yes it was and lovely weather too!  D)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/PB190024.jpg)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on November 20, 2011, 10:08:11 am
Positively Mediterranean, Merddin.

I wonder if we shall see it in the NWWN on Thursday. WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 20, 2011, 10:17:18 am
 :laugh:  I hope so then I can claim!  L0L
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Post by: Sara on November 20, 2011, 10:27:08 am
Traffic lights out at Asda, should be fun when the retail park opens ???
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Post by: wrex on November 20, 2011, 06:57:49 pm
Saw quite a few coaches in again today but was it busy again.
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Post by: Llechwedd on November 21, 2011, 01:48:20 pm
Nice to see people queuing to get in to the marquees on Saturday and Sunday.  Shame the site is so constricted though it looked very overcrowded in the marquees.  Needs somwhere wider but I can't think.....?
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Post by: Yorkie on November 21, 2011, 02:45:38 pm
The organisers are probably pleased with all those £1's they will have been taking!   :D
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Post by: norman08 on November 21, 2011, 03:37:41 pm
does anyone know WHY ccbc are gritting the roads , gloddaeth ave brynia road  8) 8)
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Post by: dwsi on November 21, 2011, 07:29:44 pm
they are probably training new drivers on the gritting routes
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Post by: norman08 on November 21, 2011, 07:49:41 pm
 :laugh:  thats a good one i bet that would be the bosses excuse
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Post by: wrex on November 22, 2011, 08:37:45 pm
 ££$ Still very dark in town ,no sign of any lights in Madoc st, the xmas fayre has been and gone ,the turkey and tinsel is nearly over and oh still no sign of Llandudno xmas illuminations. :rage:
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Post by: llandudnotrust on November 23, 2011, 06:50:09 pm
You could go to the Festive Lights meetings and have your say Wrex
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Post by: Yorkie on November 23, 2011, 07:54:47 pm
You could go to the Festive Lights meetings and have your say Wrex

Except that the Public are not allowed to speak at Council Meeting except by invitation of the whole Council.    ££$
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Post by: llandudnotrust on November 30, 2011, 06:38:12 pm
I have mate. Still a bit hard stop me, but other's were as well.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 30, 2011, 08:32:49 pm
I also spoke there on many occasions - mostly they didn't like what I said!     >>>
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Post by: Hugo on December 01, 2011, 03:44:18 pm
I saw a large boat in the sea just off from the Bodafon Fields area but couldn't make out what type of boat it was or what it was doing there. There was a smaller boat alongside (supply boat perhaps?)  has anyone got any idea as to what it was doing?
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Post by: Yorkie on December 01, 2011, 04:14:29 pm
Didn't see it myself but the Trinity House Survey vessel is often around, possibly that.
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Post by: dwsi on December 03, 2011, 03:31:00 pm
Travelodge Jobs – Llandudno’s Clarence Hotel – 60 Job Vacancies http://bit.ly/tGptFs (http://bit.ly/tGptFs)

Store Manager - Sainsbury's Local - Llandudno http://bit.ly/s8aCsb (http://bit.ly/s8aCsb)
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Post by: Nemesis on December 03, 2011, 04:01:30 pm
Glad to hear the latter, I was beginning to wonder when all work had halted.
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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2011, 08:42:12 pm
Good to see that all the new businesses are still on track. These things can take time to obtain all the necessary permissions etc.
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Post by: DaveR on December 04, 2011, 09:01:05 am
A sizable crowd outside the Town Hall last night for the Christmas Parade:
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Post by: DaveR on December 04, 2011, 09:20:44 am
As an aside, an illustration of how dark parts of Mostyn Street are at night - the pedestrian crossing outside the former Woolworths was in almost darkness due to a lack of working street lighting. You can see how the pedestrian on the crossing is only illuminated by the car's headlights.
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Post by: dwsi on December 05, 2011, 08:08:07 am
BBC News - Llandudno's Maesdu bridge goes £900,000 over estimate http://bbc.in/tiXmwj (http://bbc.in/tiXmwj)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 05, 2011, 10:21:21 am
BBC News - Llandudno's Maesdu bridge goes £900,000 over estimate http://bbc.in/tiXmwj (http://bbc.in/tiXmwj)

It's amazing that such highly paid experts could make such a cock up  :o
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Post by: Yorkie on December 05, 2011, 11:04:36 am
What's Llandudno Like Right Now?

Dark, dank, windy, miserable and devoid of anything resembling the festive occasion that is just around the corner.

Accolade of the Year is due to the Llandudno Town Council for their valiant efforts in doing absolutely nothing for the local people.    WWW
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Post by: wrex on December 05, 2011, 12:41:39 pm
Sorry to be negative again but i have just watched the xmas parade on u tube,am i thick or was not light for the first part of the parade,not sure how hard it would be for the TC to come to a decision to put it back a whole 15 minutes.Call a special meeting of the xmas parade committee and lets start at 4.15.
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Post by: Hugo on December 05, 2011, 02:21:32 pm
It was very cold and windy on the West Shore when I took my dog for a walk this morning but I only walked as far as the Boating Lake as the sand was blowing like a sandstorm over the lake.  One lady was better prepared than me and carried on walking as she had a pair of skiing goggles on to protect her eyes.
There was a large herd of goats above the site of the Penmorfa Hotel and were completely exposed to the elements. I always thought that they had more sense than that and kept to the lea side in these conditions.
 Turning back there was a large Fire and Rescue engine opposite Lilly's but it didn't look like there was a problem as the men just came out with some food in their hands.
It wasn't high tide but as I was going along the Prom the waves were crashing on the Little Orme and were quite impressive and would be even more so later on.
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Post by: hollins on December 05, 2011, 02:39:50 pm
I like your wintry photos Hugo. How lovely to be beside the sea.
We have friends and family in Cheshire and Derbyshire and they have been sending us photos of their snow this morning so I suppose we are not doing too badly.
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Post by: Sara on December 07, 2011, 08:23:40 am
My daughter has just text me, there is a fire at the end of the pier. Fire brigade there, lot of smoke.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 07, 2011, 08:56:04 am
That should warm things up a bit!     _))*
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Post by: DaveR on December 07, 2011, 09:34:06 am
I just nipped up to the Prom to take a  look, couldnt see anything going on. MpMarine are working on the pier, maybe something to do with that.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 07, 2011, 09:46:24 am
This was happening last week, perhaps a stray spark? seems too wet though?

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/PC010104.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/PC010108.jpg)
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Post by: DaveR on December 07, 2011, 09:49:09 am
Nice pics, ME, maybe a bit of decking caught alight, it was very windy up there first thing.
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Post by: DaveR on December 07, 2011, 09:50:57 am
As an aside, an illustration of how dark parts of Mostyn Street are at night - the pedestrian crossing outside the former Woolworths was in almost darkness due to a lack of working street lighting. You can see how the pedestrian on the crossing is only illuminated by the car's headlights.
I have reported this to CCBC - let's see how long it takes to get fixed:
http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/216966 (http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/216966)
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Post by: Sara on December 07, 2011, 10:25:49 am
Seems like it probably was welders, don't know where smoke would come from. They were working pretty early, before it was properly light. Someone must have thought it bad enough to call fire brigade. Gave the guests where my daughter works something to look at while having breakfast. :)
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Post by: DaveR on December 07, 2011, 10:28:27 am
The St. Georges Hotel called the Fire Service out. Better to be safe than sorry!
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Post by: DaveR on December 07, 2011, 10:29:34 am
As an aside, an illustration of how dark parts of Mostyn Street are at night - the pedestrian crossing outside the former Woolworths was in almost darkness due to a lack of working street lighting. You can see how the pedestrian on the crossing is only illuminated by the car's headlights.
I have reported this to CCBC - let's see how long it takes to get fixed:
http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/216966 (http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/216966)
Reply received very quickly but not great news:

"Thank you for your complaint regarding the floodlights in Llandudno town centre.  The local authority has to hire a special scissor lift to maintain those lights. The scissor lift is hired only so many times a year to carry out the repairs."
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Post by: Yorkie on December 07, 2011, 04:01:05 pm
I have never heard such a supid and crass answer in all my life.   Whoever made the comment, and more so the person who made the policy, need firing without further delay.

If in the meantime someone is mugged or assaulted, or even murdered in one of the dark spots, what will the Councils excuse be then?  They should be made culpable to any incident and the CE punished accordingly!
 $angry$   $angry$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 07, 2011, 05:01:52 pm
I have a very good ladder that they can hire at a very competitive rate  ;D
but no doubt the H & S department bans such things  $angry$
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Post by: DaveR on December 07, 2011, 05:40:28 pm
I was talking to a local businessman just across the road this evening and it really is very dark in the vicinity of the pedestrian crossing...it's an accident waiting to happen. We looked and there are three lights in a row not working on that side of the road, so no lights at all between the Carlton and W H Smith.

I did find the explanation a little odd - why cant the lights be accessed using a normal cherry picker type vehicle like every other street lamp? Scissor lifts only go up and down in a straight line so it would have to be positioned directly underneath the light...so how would they get through the glass canopies along there?! Doesn't make a lot of sense...
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 07, 2011, 06:24:57 pm
You may be expecting logic from the council and they have none WWW
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Post by: cygnusx-1 on December 07, 2011, 06:50:25 pm
The last time we had stray sparks from a welding torch............ASDA went up in flames!   
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Post by: SDQ on December 07, 2011, 11:02:13 pm
Isn't that what happened at North Wales Police Headquarters in Colwyn Bay too?
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Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2011, 11:46:56 am
The new £15,000 Information Point outside the Library has been out of action for a week, at least, it just shows the message 'kiosk offline' now.  :roll:
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Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2011, 12:33:37 pm
Wow, that was some mini storm that just swept through town. I was trapped under a canopy by KFC. It looked just like those images you see of a Florida hurricane where the rain is travelling vertically.

Also very noticeable was how many of the street drains along Mostyn Street are completely blocked. Within 5 minutes, water was coming onto the pavement close to the shops down by the Kings Arms and was within a foot of their front door. Cannot CCBC do anything in Llandudno properly?
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Post by: Llechwedd on December 08, 2011, 01:22:53 pm
I had no idea that the Grand Hotel has bingo sessions.  Todays NWWN has an application - from the Channel Islands- to extend hours. Who on earth would want to play bingo at 2.00 a.m.?
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Post by: Nemesis on December 08, 2011, 01:43:16 pm
Wow, that was some mini storm that just swept through town. I was trapped under a canopy by KFC. It looked just like those images you see of a Florida hurricane where the rain is travelling vertically.

Also very noticeable was how many of the street drains along Mostyn Street are completely blocked. Within 5 minutes, water was coming onto the pavement close to the shops down by the Kings Arms and was within a foot of their front door. Cannot CCBC do anything in Llandudno properly?
'Twas like a river past us-- all the drains are blocked with leaves so we are paddling in the garage again !
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Post by: hollins on December 08, 2011, 08:41:40 pm
Not right now but this was the stormy sky taken from the Orme summit car park at 4pm.
Bit of a confession though, I took it through the car window. Too windy to get out!
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Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2011, 09:21:20 pm
Who on earth would want to play bingo at 2.00 a.m.?
or indeed...at all?
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Post by: Blodyn on December 09, 2011, 09:02:18 pm
Another dramatic sky this afternoon. 
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Post by: TheMedz on December 09, 2011, 09:32:26 pm
Great photograph.

Such weird and ever changing weather. We walked up to the viewing point at Anglesea(y) Road yesterday afternoon and in the time it took to get there the sky had changed from light blue to the threatening black clouds you can see on the bottom of your photograph. Very difficult to stand up in the winds at the viewing point.

Mike, you might like to know that when we walked back across the golf course it was looking in particularly good condition.
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Post by: DaveR on December 11, 2011, 11:46:24 am
The Santa Fun Run in aid of Ty Gobaith took place this morning, weather was awful but a good effort by all concerned. Mayor Robbins was there to start the event and kindly posed for a photo for me
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 11, 2011, 12:12:10 pm
Seeing those pictures for some reason I keep thinking of Captain Pugwash :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on December 11, 2011, 05:46:47 pm
Every time it rains, a 50 foot+ section of Mostyn Street across the road from W H Smiths floods, causing difficulties for pedestrians and motorists alike. Do CCBC staff and Councillors go around with their eyes closed?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 11, 2011, 05:59:14 pm
I can see the white rabbit statue going in the middle of that!  ;D
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Post by: snowcap on December 12, 2011, 10:29:34 pm
bet it gets a ticket
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Post by: DaveR on December 13, 2011, 11:36:25 am
There's been a car crash on the Orme, on the curve just past the R&BT. Car hit the sea side wall, demolished it, then bounced across the road and overturned. How fast would you have to be going to do something like that?!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 13, 2011, 12:09:31 pm
How fast would you have to be going to do something like that?!

It would depend on the car and the driver's skill (or lack of!)
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Post by: TheMedz on December 13, 2011, 06:24:32 pm
Any idea when the crash took place and the type of car. My guess,judging by the cars that speed up the Orme through Black Gate, would be after dark and an older model  car with an enlarged exhaust outlet. But I could be completely wrong!
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Post by: DaveR on December 13, 2011, 07:58:20 pm
Any idea when the crash took place and the type of car. My guess,judging by the cars that speed up the Orme through Black Gate, would be after dark and an older model  car with an enlarged exhaust outlet. But I could be completely wrong!
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Post by: DVT on December 13, 2011, 08:52:01 pm
Any idea when the crash took place and the type of car. My guess,judging by the cars that speed up the Orme through Black Gate, would be after dark and an older model  car with an enlarged exhaust outlet. But I could be completely wrong!

Looks like a fairly new Mini Cooper S to me ... so that disproves your theory!!!

In terms of speed it needn't be going very fast if driver gets the corner wrong, bounces up the kerb, hits walls and flips.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 13, 2011, 09:29:13 pm
There is a recommended speed limit of 30 mph on Marine Drive which applies to all vehicles, except
 of course Mini Coopers!!! _))*   L0L    _))*    L0L

Boy racer no doubt!
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Post by: TheMedz on December 13, 2011, 09:38:21 pm
A few months back a neighbour of ours warned that last time they held the RAC rally on the Orme, shortly afterwards there was a series of incidents of "rally clones" coming undone attempting to replicate the drivers in the Rally.  2011 Wales Rally GB Great Orme Sebastien Ogier Crash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgYjS5MVU98#ws)Not saying that is the case for this one but it's a possibility.
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Post by: Fester on December 13, 2011, 11:17:14 pm
Hmmm, well history often repeats itself.... and you have to be a pretty crap driver for that to happen.

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Post by: Hugo on December 14, 2011, 11:44:31 am
Many years ago I was parked in my car on the concrete car park above the lighthouse. At the time you could drive all over the Orme as there were no restrictions to prevent you doing so.
Boy racers had created an oval shaped racing track just above the car park and this one particular evening a boy racer in a VW Beetle was trying to impress his girlfriend by going round and round the track getting faster and faster each time. Quite honestly he was driving me nuts but then it went silent and I looked behind and saw the VW on it's roof with the passengers hanging upside down in their seat belts.
Fearing the car going on fire I raced to pull them out and after with the help of the lad turned the car over back onto it's wheels. When we did this we looked at the car and instead of the rounded Beetle roof it was dented and just flat.  I'll always remember the look on the lad's face when he said to me " what do I tell my Dad, it's his car and I only took it out to impress my girlfriend"
I can't remember what I said back but wondered what excuse he gave to his father.
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Post by: Fester on December 14, 2011, 12:21:12 pm
Very public spirited Hugo.
I would hope I would have done the same in a normal road traffic accident.

But in this case, I would have sat back, lit a match and tossed it in.... then videoed it to put it on Youtube.   WWW

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Post by: DaveR on December 14, 2011, 12:36:17 pm
Just had to laugh....the CCBC recycling truck was down in Craig Y Don. The green paper recycling bin went up to be emptied on the lorry and as the paper was emptied, the wind was blowing and about a hundred bits of paper went sailing down the road, covering it in litter. Naturally, the council staff just left the mess and drove off!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 14, 2011, 01:14:24 pm
About a half an hour ago, I dropped my missus at the Nail Base and I struggled to pass a large yellow CCBC wagon parked on the taxi rank.

I guess the driver had popped over to the hambone for just a few minutes.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 14, 2011, 01:55:29 pm
Very public spirited Hugo.
I would hope I would have done the same in a normal road traffic accident.

But in this case, I would have sat back, lit a match and tossed it in.... then videoed it to put it on Youtube.   WWW

Mmmmm reminds me of when my OH found a bloke near the lighthouse sat in the road having tipped off his 'dolly trolly' ( mobility scooter) He got him back onto the thing, tidied him up and the bloke promptly set off and ran over my OH's foot !
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Post by: Hugo on December 14, 2011, 03:17:35 pm
Very public spirited Hugo.
I would hope I would have done the same in a normal road traffic accident.

But in this case, I would have sat back, lit a match and tossed it in.... then videoed it to put it on Youtube.   WWW

Mmmmm reminds me of when my OH found a bloke near the lighthouse sat in the road having tipped off his 'dolly trolly' ( mobility scooter) He got him back onto the thing, tidied him up and the bloke promptly set off and ran over my OH's foot !

Reminds me of the time I was driving my car in Conwy. I was going through the archway in Conwy ready to turn right and go down the hill back into town. There was a man standing very close to the kerb as I was going very slowly through the arch and his shopping bag hit my car with a bit of a thud.
I wound down the window and asked him what he was playing at and he said that it's ok. I was getting madder at the thought of him hitting my car with his shopping and said that no it wasn't ok and got out of my car to sort it out.
I asked him again what did he think he was doing and again he said that it's ok which made me even more angry.
What do you mean it's ok, I demanded to know and then he explained!!
You've just run over my foot!
I backtracked very quickly and apologetically thinking that there could be a compensation claim coming my way and made sure that there were no bones broken as I made my excuse and left.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 14, 2011, 03:26:12 pm
 :o L0L
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Post by: Ian on December 14, 2011, 04:44:37 pm
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but wondered what excuse he gave to his father.

"Er...really bad hailstorm tonight, Dad. "
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 14, 2011, 06:10:20 pm
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but wondered what excuse he gave to his father.

"Er...really bad hailstorm tonight, Dad. "

 L0L

or 'a goat jumped on the roof'
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Post by: llandudnotrust on December 16, 2011, 05:36:23 pm
apart from the car crash, you have cheered up a cold night  ;D
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Post by: Nemesis on December 17, 2011, 10:24:16 am
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but wondered what excuse he gave to his father.

"Er...really bad hailstorm tonight, Dad. "

 L0L

or 'a goat jumped on the roof'

Now that is getting to be a likelyhood as we have the usual single rogue goat wandering the area as it does every winter. Yesterday morning it had got itself into one of the local B&B's garden and was happily munching its way through the shrubs. The gate was shut, so it must have jumped over the wall. Trouble is they don't find their way out as easily as they find a way in !
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2011, 05:08:45 pm
Fester reminded me that I needed to post this photo, of the Swimming Pool/Theatre car park. This has been like this for at least 4 years every time there is rain...
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2011, 05:11:19 pm
...and for good measure, here's the corner of Trinity Square/Mostyn Street by Lloyds Bank. Pedestrians have to wade though this every time it rains. How difficult is it to clear a blocked drain?

Can someone tell me who the Councillors are for Mostyn Street area? Do they ever walk around their Ward?
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Post by: Nemesis on December 18, 2011, 05:35:28 pm
01492574000---Bodlondeb.
They will either tell you or deal with the matter.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 18, 2011, 07:38:05 pm
Fester reminded me that I needed to post this photo, of the Swimming Pool/Theatre car park. This has been like this for at least 4 years every time there is rain...

Probably sunk due to the heavy car transporters that have been driven there by Pentraeth and also "show" and rally service vehicles.

When the car park was constructed the surface on the main area was made to a low spec, purely for motor cars, in order to save construction costs.     ZXZ
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 18, 2011, 08:50:20 pm
The old swimming pool used to go along in that direction.

Before he retired, somebody from CCBC informed me when the swimming pool was empty and the tide came in then the swimming pool casing actually rose up.

If that story was true then it may also help to explain why the rainwater always stays there.
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Post by: dwsi on December 18, 2011, 09:20:14 pm
something similar happens near Aberconwy school every time there's a very high tide
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Post by: Blodyn on December 18, 2011, 10:37:05 pm
The two services of Carols by Candlelight at St. Tudno's Church were well attended today, with about 120 at the 3 pm service (including Fester and Mrs. Fester - lovely to see you both) and 55 at the 5 pm service. 

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Post by: Fester on December 18, 2011, 11:30:35 pm
It was a beautiful occasion once again, Blodyn.

We actually set off for a walk today to Angelsea Road, (hence our inappropriate clothing, and lack of money) ... but then we realised that if we picked up the pace we could reach St Tudno's in time for the first Carol service.

So glad we did, and it was lovely to see you and so many of our neighbours too.
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Post by: Blodyn on December 19, 2011, 10:24:50 am
Thanks, Fester, so glad you both enjoyed the service - hope you didn't get too cold.  It's always nice to welcome so many people to St. Tudno's and as well as a good number of Great Orme residents we had some people from as far away as Shropshire. 

In case anyone's wondering why Fester was concerned about not having any money, the collections at the two services were in aid of Ty Gobaith. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 20, 2011, 08:59:09 pm
Got stopped outside the library today to do a survey.

The crux of which was, the people who put the wind turbines in are donating 750k to local causes every year. What should it be spent on?

Thought that would be interesting topic of discussion for this board.

My own thoughts are a music festival on Bodafon fields to give the area something much needed for under 70s!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 20, 2011, 09:03:50 pm
I did the same survey and received an Aero for my troubles. They made a big fuss that there will be £90m to be spent, then revealed it worked out at just £768,000 a year!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on December 20, 2011, 09:25:39 pm
I received a telephone enquiry yesterday from Swift Research Ltd of Wetherby, West Yorks., asking whether I would participate in a survey about North Wales Police. I declined on the basis that I will not not give any personal information or opinions over the phone - you can never be certain who it is at the other end.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 20, 2011, 09:56:30 pm
I received a telephone enquiry yesterday from Swift Research Ltd of Wetherby, West Yorks., asking whether I would participate in a survey about North Wales Police. I declined on the basis that I will not not give any personal information or opinions over the phone - you can never be certain who it is at the other end.

Fonejacker - Monies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MTFauI8INY#ws)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 20, 2011, 11:51:43 pm
Nice to hear from you B2R.
Mmmm free aero eh?  My kind of survey.

My initial reaction would be, I would like to see some of that money put towards a feasibility study, and physical investment in renovating the Pier landing stage.

I am sure that I can think of quite a few other good causes too.... not as many as Wrex though.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 21, 2011, 08:25:03 am
Funny that-- as we walked past 3 of the people were free but they ignored us !. Frightened of dogs?
Victor Meldrew in disguise?

Very interesting !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 21, 2011, 09:38:11 am
Funny that-- as we walked past 3 of the people were free but they ignored us !. Frightened of dogs?
Victor Meldrew in disguise?

Very interesting !

Most surveys require a random sample of different people and it may be that you were one too many of a particular "class" - or they didn't want dog owners!   I recently volunteered for a survey but was turned down due to age!     Which reminds me it is my Birthday on Friday (23/12).     ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 25, 2011, 05:54:16 pm
Went for a nice walk this afternoon, very quiet!

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 25, 2011, 07:03:39 pm
It could not have been much busier in town last night.

According to a local taxi driver at 10.20pm, he had only had seven pickups since 5pm all evening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 26, 2011, 09:40:00 am
Nice photos, ME, if anyone ever wants to shoot an 'end of the world' type movie in Llandudno, then Christmas day would seem to be the time to do it...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 26, 2011, 11:06:53 am
A photo from a couple of days ago...'come and have a paddle in Mostyn Street'. There has been a problem here for many weeks and still not fixed.:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 26, 2011, 11:13:53 am
...and another one from the same day, taken at the Venue CymruSwimming Pool Car Park. The water was so deep that the parking attendant's white van seen in the photo nearly stalled going through the water. Welcome to Llandudno!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2011, 12:15:39 pm
Nice photos, ME, if anyone ever wants to shoot an 'end of the world' type movie in Llandudno, then Christmas day would seem to be the time to do it...

It did feel like the aftermath of a nuclear war :o the strangest part was looking into the Victoria centre and Christmas music was still playing! Spooky!  :o :laugh:

a couple more

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2011, 01:07:05 pm
Good turnout for the Boxing Day dip. The announcer gave the sea temp at minus 11 degrees. Jason Gardiner came and spoke before the raffle draw, nice to see so many people supporting the charities.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2011, 01:17:11 pm
Good turnout for the Boxing Day dip. The announcer gave the sea temp at minus 11 degrees. Jason Gardiner came and spoke before the raffle draw, nice to see so many people supporting the charities.

At minus 11, the sea would be frozen solid! They said something similar last year, I would expect the sea temp to be about plus 9 (still very cold!)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on December 26, 2011, 01:54:34 pm
Picture of Llandudno's RNLI with Jason Gardener

http://bit.ly/w2ChmW (http://bit.ly/w2ChmW)

Via RNLI crew member's page on Facebook
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 26, 2011, 02:50:03 pm
Good turnout for the Boxing Day dip. The announcer gave the sea temp at minus 11 degrees. Jason Gardiner came and spoke before the raffle draw, nice to see so many people supporting the charities.

At minus 11, the sea would be frozen solid! They said something similar last year, I would expect the sea temp to be about plus 9 (still very cold!)
You are spot on, it would seem:
http://www.holiday-weather.com/llandudno/averages/#sea_temperature (http://www.holiday-weather.com/llandudno/averages/#sea_temperature)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on December 26, 2011, 03:08:31 pm
Weather Station History : Weather Underground http://bit.ly/uSLEXV (http://bit.ly/uSLEXV)

Live weather and webcam for Llandudno
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2011, 11:52:26 am
The Inshore Lifeboat was called out on Christmas night to a man threatening to throw himself off the Pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 27, 2011, 12:32:44 pm
Presumably, the pier gates would have been locked at both entrances?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2011, 12:37:23 pm
I would hope so, but not particularly difficult to climb over them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 27, 2011, 12:46:10 pm
I have just come home from Llandudno Swimming Centre along Mostyn Broadway and the road is very busy with traffic.

Merddin Emrys’ earlier Xmas Day photos would certainly look a lot different today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2011, 12:57:30 pm
Yes, town is very busy with shoppers, traffic is backed up along Mostyn Street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 27, 2011, 08:29:31 pm
 :)Well it looks like Llandudno has a bright 2012, of course we have no idea how many buissnesses are going under but at this
moment we have a few bright lights to look forward to
1 Llandudno station finally getting re-fit
2 DFS
3 Caffe Nero
4 Sainsburys Local
5 Travelodge plus two new units starting
6 Two new units on Parc Llandudno[removal of hoardings]
7 Country Casuals opening next to the works.
8 New xmas lights.[oops thats a dream]
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on December 27, 2011, 09:47:56 pm
Mrs snowcaps leg is getting better so i will have more time there, things are definitely looking up.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 28, 2011, 08:18:34 am
:)Well it looks like Llandudno has a bright 2012, of course we have no idea how many buissnesses are going under but at this
moment we have a few bright lights to look forward to
1 Llandudno station finally getting re-fit
2 DFS
3 Caffe Nero
4 Sainsburys Local
5 Travelodge plus two new units starting
6 Two new units on Parc Llandudno[removal of hoardings]
7 Country Casuals opening next to the works.
8 New xmas lights.[oops thats a dream]

And most important ELECTIONS for a new Council who will probably be no better or worse than the present encumbants!   L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 28, 2011, 09:00:51 am
Yorkie, I wonder if this exercise may help improve the present situation:

Thinking of Becoming a County Borough Councillor?

Thursday, 3 May 2012 is an important day for democracy in Conwy County Borough.


It's the day we go to the polls to elect Councillors to represent us on the Council for the next four years.

The County Borough Council elections will take place alongside elections for Town and Community Councils.

Some people may be thinking about standing for election and the Council has launched a campaign to provide as much information as possible about becoming a Councillor, so that individuals can make an informed choice on whether or not to stand.

Conwy County Borough Council has published a guide on becoming a Councillor, which is available on the website - click on the link below. 

Copies are also available by phoning (01492) 576067/8/9 or by e-mailing member.services@conwy.gov.uk   

Copies of the Welsh Local Government Association guide 'Be a Councillor' are also available.

In January, information sessions to explain what is involved in becoming a Councillor will be held at Conwy Business Centre, Llandudno Junction:

Thursday, 12 January 2012 at 2pm
Tuesday, 17 January 2012 at 10am
Tuesday, 31 January 2012 at 6pm

The sessions will also include information about voting and making sure that you are on the electoral register if you are eligible to vote.

The nomination period for candidates for the County Borough elections will start at the end of March 2012.


 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 28, 2011, 09:42:27 am
The idea of it being anything like a democracy will remain a farce at local level as long as the voters persist in backing political parties rather than people.

I believe all Town and County Councillors should be independents.

I also believe that no person should be allowed to be both a Town and a County Councillor.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 28, 2011, 09:59:43 am
Very true Dave R, when you have County Clls on the Town council all they do is defend the County and they are told what bto do when they get elected.All Llandudno County councillors should be made to attend one town council meeting a month to discuss local issues instead of hidieing in Bodlondeb.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 28, 2011, 10:30:12 am
Don't they have to declare a conflict of interest?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 28, 2011, 10:57:25 am
Yes Bri they do,so when it comes to something important they can;t vote or disscuss it so that;s another reason for there to be no county councillors on town councils.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 28, 2011, 12:15:56 pm
In answer to Bri's remarks. . . .

The County's publicity on asking "do you want to be a councillor"  is just a load of rubbish and a way of maybe vetting interested people and getting them to join a specific group!    More recruitment than mentoring!

Declarations of interest only occur very rarely and do not affect whether one is both a County and Town Councillor as their policy should be the same for both.  Declarations of Interest are specific to any "personal" conflicts the Councillor may have with regard to their own declared interests, such as clubs or organisations or businesses in which they may have interests.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 28, 2011, 12:27:07 pm
Do you two former and experienced town councillors advocate a modernisation of the current role, duties and responsibilities of a Town Councillor for Llandudno?

If so, where does one start?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 28, 2011, 01:02:06 pm
Maybe Bri we could make the councillors get up and speak on every subject,because somecouncillors never ever say a word,this may put of people who are only standing for the party and being told you don;t have to do anything as long as my party gets the most seats.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 28, 2011, 01:48:58 pm
The idea of it being anything like a democracy will remain a farce at local level as long as the voters persist in backing political parties rather than people.

I believe all Town and County Councillors should be independents.

I also believe that no person should be allowed to be both a Town and a County Councillor.

   I would not vote without knowing what side the candidate was on. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 28, 2011, 05:02:47 pm
   I would not vote without knowing what side the candidate was on. 

As I am on the side of my local constituants and not a Party, I presume therefore I could not count on your vote?
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 28, 2011, 05:05:33 pm
Do you two former and experienced town councillors advocate a modernisation of the current role, duties and responsibilities of a Town Councillor for Llandudno?

If so, where does one start?

I believe that the Local Councils, as they exist, are totally ineffective and an unneccessary tier of Government.  I hope that answers your question. ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Micox on December 28, 2011, 05:30:46 pm
I think our administration would be much more effective with smaller units of local government. I'm prehistoric enough to have worked in pre-Maud councils and, despite the theories of larger unit cost effectiveness, I'm certain they were much better - small enough to have short lines of communication and much better chances of the councillors and officers being known locally. In the huge county councils we have now, hidden away in their depths there are thousands of useless idiots who just get shuffled around pointlessly and multiple tiers of management, most of which are functionless tokens.

So, I would go back to county councils the size of district councils with a rebuilding fully involving ordinary local people with local power. Anyway, the Localism Act will bring about many changes when it is realised how many far-reaching power shifts it mandates. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 28, 2011, 06:02:30 pm
Do you two former and experienced town councillors advocate a modernisation of the current role, duties and responsibilities of a Town Councillor for Llandudno?

If so, where does one start?

I believe that the Local Councils, as they exist, are totally ineffective and an unneccessary tier of Government.  I hope that answers your question. ;)

Yorkie, please forgive me but I believe you have only half-answered my question.

Is it possible to change it and if so, where does one start?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 28, 2011, 07:36:30 pm

Yorkie, please forgive me but I believe you have only half-answered my question.

Is it possible to change it and if so, where does one start?

I thought by saying I think they are unnessessary, you would realise that I cannot conceive of having anything to change!

I do however think, like Micox, that something possibly the size of the old Aberconwy Council would be a better solution, but of course I am not an expert on Local or National Government matters! 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 28, 2011, 07:53:05 pm
A town like Llandudno would benefit from having many of the responsibilities of CCBC relating to the presentation of public areas (an essential thing to get right for any tourist town) like street cleaning, road/pavement maintenance, street lighting, parks/gardens, along with things like promoting the town/event organisation etc, transferred to a beefed up Town Council.

I'd like to see all the various Town Council Committees scrapped, and the Councillors duties reduced to overseeing their ward/acting as a conduit between public/council. Instead, an elected Mayor would be introduced for a 5 year term to run the town on a businesslike basis. The Mayor would have control of the spending and have to deliver on specific targets listed in their manifesto...or get the boot at the end of their period.

The present Town Council just isn't delivering any value for Llandudno....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 28, 2011, 08:24:53 pm
If the services currently delivered are slowly being shared between Conwy County Borough Council and Denbighshire County Council then we may eventually see certain services delegated to a local council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 28, 2011, 08:48:06 pm
Yes, that seems to be the trend. I see no reason why services such as Social Services, Education and Highways cant be run at a North Wales regional level, even?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on December 29, 2011, 12:20:34 am
We had a great time yesterday in Venue Cymru,  we went for a walk in the morning and when I was going past VC I remembered that David Dickinson was there with the team from 'Dickinson's Real Deal' so we popped in for a quick look. There were not many people there and we watched a few deals being done and retake after retake! There are 4 separate dealers sections, each with it's own film crew, several times we were required as extras in the background, afterwards we were rewarded with free coffee & food (no entrance fee either, right up my boulevard  ;D ) After about an hour and a half we thought lets go home and find something to sell, so after a quick sandwich at home (I eat a lot :laugh:) we returned clutching valuable antiques ;)  we had our items looked at and 2 were selected to be filmed for the show, the first was an enamelled sign (Lyon's Tea) that I had bought for a tenner about 3 years ago at a car boot, Helen was doing the on screen bit and the dealer offered £60  :o  D) Helen turned to me in the background and asked if that was ok, I nodded in agreement (in my head I was screaming 'YES, YES!!! ) That was a good result!  Our other item was filmed also with er indoors but the offer was not enough so on the 28th April it's off to Morgan Evans,  Anglesey  for auction, we had a good chat with the auctioneer afterwards and we will be putting a few other items into the same auction  D)
In all a great day, cost nowt and a good earner too, David Dickinson is a total professional, going form dealer to dealer filming different deals, he was good to talk to too!               

Dickinson's Real Deal
Thursday 1st December - David and his team of dealers are in Llandudno in North Wales http://itv.co/sW9wGe (http://itv.co/sW9wGe)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 29, 2011, 07:03:37 am
   I would not vote without knowing what side the candidate was on. 

As I am on the side of my local constituants and not a Party, I presume therefore I could not count on your vote?
 ZXZ

I've been voting one way since I was allowed to vote, so I would want to be sure I was voting the 'right' way  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on December 29, 2011, 07:27:22 pm
Yes, that seems to be the trend. I see no reason why services such as Social Services, Education and Highways cant be run at a North Wales regional level, even?

Is this what we had up to 1996 when Clwyd and Gwynedd County Councils existed?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Micox on January 01, 2012, 06:08:34 pm
Pre 1974 (the Maud reorganisation) it was Flintshire, Denbighshire and Caernarfonshire. Each having their own Social Services Department. I worked for Flintshire in the Rhyl Office and the North Wales Hospital, Denbigh. When they smelted Flintshire and Denbighshire into Clwyd they moved me to the Colwyn Bay office where, latterly, I had to deputise in the Juvenile Courts. Goodworking relationship with Llandudno Probation which was an effective organisation then. Clwyd's standards of Social Service were absolute crap and they had an unheathily close relationship with the police (I was hauled up in front of the Deputy Director for disrespect for the police).  See the findings of the Inquiry into Child Abuse in North Wales for more information. I sent in written evidence to the Inquiry and shortly afterwards, from the police, got a false allegation of indecent assault of a boy (which was eventually dismissed by the Chief Inspector of Police). I can't prove any connection with these but I'm personally convinced there was.

If the counties had remained as smaller administrative units, Denbighshire would have only played a minor part (unless the Freemasonry variable had been fully exposed).   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on January 05, 2012, 05:02:43 pm
Body of sailor washed up on West Shore, Llandudno - North Wales Weekly News http://bit.ly/zLS7gk (http://bit.ly/zLS7gk)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 05, 2012, 05:54:41 pm
Body of sailor washed up on West Shore, Llandudno - North Wales Weekly News http://bit.ly/zLS7gk (http://bit.ly/zLS7gk)

Is this a second one or a repeat of the one we have already posted about?   Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on January 05, 2012, 06:05:52 pm
Body of sailor washed up on West Shore, Llandudno - North Wales Weekly News http://bit.ly/zLS7gk (http://bit.ly/zLS7gk)

Is this a second one or a repeat of the one we have already posted about?   Z**

repeat
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on January 08, 2012, 12:34:54 pm
Erm I might be talking out of line now and stirring up a hornets nest but I can't see a problem with Asda installing CCTV cameras on their car park.  Why should they provide free parking?  When I was a kid there was a kiosk on the old Asda car park and a guy used to check for a receipt from the store so you got your parking free, if you had no receipt you had to pay. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: martin on January 08, 2012, 12:55:41 pm
Erm I might be talking out of line now and stirring up a hornets nest but I can't see a problem with Asda installing CCTV cameras on their car park.  Why should they provide free parking?  When I was a kid there was a kiosk on the old Asda car park and a guy used to check for a receipt from the store so you got your parking free, if you had no receipt you had to pay.
I agree with you, it is Asda's car park and they should be able to police who uses it, but from what I have read, the systems that use number plate recognition cameras tend to cause no end of problems especially in cases were someone has used the car park more than once in a single day.  It is the cheap option, farm it out to a company to operate the system, they of course need to see a return on their investment on the camera's, etc, so in these circumstances, it is inevitable that "errors" will be made and people wrongly penalised.  The more friendly approach would be to continue as it is at present, with car park attendants, but increase the signage to show the parking restrictions, but that costs money, and they want to squeeze every penny out of us they can, so the cheap option it is, and sod the customers! $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on January 08, 2012, 01:28:19 pm
looks like there will be more people parking in Oxford Road and Ffordd Penrhyn when these cameras come into force
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 08, 2012, 01:53:58 pm
Don't forget that they can't make you pay it, they can charge you but cannot fine you. I still say that it is totally wrong for DVLA to sell your info to these parking companies.
Having said that, I agree that it is their carpark to do as they want, I have to say though I've never had any trouble finding a space there, getting out is the problem if you go on the wrong time of day   $angry$             
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on January 08, 2012, 04:32:22 pm
I've heard a story that a taxi driver was attacked early on Saturday morning, any truth in the story?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 08, 2012, 05:06:57 pm
looks like there will be more people parking in Oxford Road and Ffordd Penrhyn when these cameras come into force

Especially those people who have been used to parking there whilst at work or whilst going around the town!

2 hours is plenty for me and I cannor see why it should not be enough for most people.

The ANPR system is very reliable and does not rely on human interpretation so no one should receive charges if they use the car park in accordance with the instructions.

Any charge is only a Civil Debt and can only be recovered by County Court action if you do not pay when a "ticket" is issued.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on January 08, 2012, 06:51:27 pm
 I don't know for sure but was it part of its planning permission to have free parking ???? I could be wrong
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 08, 2012, 07:11:52 pm
All this could be conected to the new car park that is being placed on platform 4 and 5 on the station with 150 spaces but im not sure who will get the money,i guess it will be network rail
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 10, 2012, 06:27:35 pm
I was talking with a local businessman earlier and I noticed that yet more of Mostyn Street's street lighting has stopped working. The entire section from Gimberts corner down to the Town House pub is off. Combine that with the fact that the ones on the Carlton and former Woolworths still haven't been fixed and you have one side of the Carlton roundabout almost in darkness, along with the pedestrian crossing.

When someone gets run over at night there, who at CCBC will carry the can and resign?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: JasonW on January 10, 2012, 07:35:22 pm
I have just reported the street lights issue via the Report It site on the Council's website

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/drstreetlights.asp?cat=2805&doc=15473&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/drstreetlights.asp?cat=2805&doc=15473&Language=1)

We'll see if that has any effect
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on January 10, 2012, 08:23:00 pm
I have just reported the street lights issue via the Report It site on the Council's website

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/drstreetlights.asp?cat=2805&doc=15473&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/drstreetlights.asp?cat=2805&doc=15473&Language=1)

We'll see if that has any effect

Could you use this link to report the xmas lights in Llandudno?  VV 
 $lol$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 10, 2012, 08:52:00 pm
Jason W what is the latest date on the station start date please.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2012, 09:05:34 am
MORE than 1,300 people applied for just 16 jobs at a new furniture store.

That works out at just under 87 applicants for each post at the DFS sofa centre in Llandudno.

The newly-built store, on the old Halford’s site near B&Q on Mostyn Champneys Retail Park opens on Saturday, February 18.

DFS said it had been “inundated” with 1,385 applications for the 16 advertised positions.

The Mayor of Llandudno welcomed the store and called for other companies to invest in the resort.

The Office for National Statistics’s latest figures show that 9.1% of Wales’ workforce were unemployed in the period of August to October 2011 – up from 8.4% between May and July last year.

DFS area sales manager Adam Hankinson said: “I have been amazed by both the number of applications we’ve received but also the high quality of the candidates.

“We’ve recruited a great bunch of people and I’m really excited about creating a new local team who will open the store within weeks.”

The application process has now closed and many of the successful candidates are starting extensive training to make sure new customers to the store are given the best service possible.

DFS has been in business for more than 40 years.

This long-term success has seen them buck the trend of many retailers and continue to expand with stores due to open over the next two years.

In 2011 DFS created 151 new jobs across the UK and plans to create more than 300 in 2012.

Yesterday Mayor of Llandudno Cllr Greg Robbins welcomed the new store and called on other companies to follow suit.

He said: “I welcome the fact that these jobs are being created. It’s a very positive thing for the town that a national company is coming here.”

But he added: “I don’t know if desperation is the word. It shows there’s a massive shortage of long-term employment jobs and that we need further inward investment.”

Cllr Robbins expects vacancies at the proposed Travelodge in Llandudno to be similarly oversubscribed.

Travelodge Hotels is set to open an 83-bed hotel on the site of the former Clarence Hotel, Gloddaeth Street creating up to 60 permanent jobs.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/01/11/1-385-people-apply-for-16-jobs-at-new-dfs-store-in-llandudno-55578-30098185/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/01/11/1-385-people-apply-for-16-jobs-at-new-dfs-store-in-llandudno-55578-30098185/)
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Post by: JasonW on January 11, 2012, 10:28:42 pm
Jason W what is the latest date on the station start date please.
I'll try and find out a real date and get back to you.
The last I knew it was the "spring"
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Post by: wrex on January 12, 2012, 08:16:56 am
 ;) Thanks Jason.
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Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2012, 10:58:03 am
Word is that the plug has been pulled on the Station redevelopment scheme.
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Post by: wrex on January 12, 2012, 11:45:49 am
Dave R why would that not surprise me.
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Post by: Fester on January 12, 2012, 03:18:56 pm
Dave, if thats a joke then it belongs in the 'poor taste' section.
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Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2012, 03:51:31 pm
Not a joke, I'm afraid!

On another note, I've just seen an old lady have a nasty fall outside Cafe Culture. This seems to be a regular occurrence along Mostyn St, there are so many uneven paving stones.
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Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2012, 03:38:50 pm
Inshore Lifeboat has just been called out, it's heading round the Little Orme towards Penrhyn Bay.
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Post by: dwsi on January 13, 2012, 05:33:42 pm
Inshore Lifeboat has just been called out, it's heading round the Little Orme towards Penrhyn Bay.

From Llandudno Lifeboat's Facebook page
RNLI CREW BRING DOG TO SAFETY

A young cocker spaniel puppy was rescued by a North Wales RNLI lifeboat crew this afternoon (13/1) after falling down cliffs into the sea.

The pup's owner asked for help after the puppy, Charlie, fell 100 feet down cliffs on Llandudno's Little Orme headland, ending up in the sea below.

As a result, and at the request of Holyhead Coastguard, Llandudno's RNLI inshore lifeboat launched at 3.25 p.m., reaching the scene a few minutes later. The RNLI crew quickly recovered the puppy, which from its cuts and grazes had clearly suffered a nasty fall, and were able to speak to its owner ashore.

With his agreement, Charlie was made as comfortable as possible aboard the lifeboat, which then cruised at slow speed back to the resort's lifeboat slipway for the casualty to be reunited with his owner.
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Post by: born2run on January 13, 2012, 08:42:41 pm
Inshore Lifeboat has just been called out, it's heading round the Little Orme towards Penrhyn Bay.

From Llandudno Lifeboat's Facebook page
RNLI CREW BRING DOG TO SAFETY

A young cocker spaniel puppy was rescued by a North Wales RNLI lifeboat crew this afternoon (13/1) after falling down cliffs into the sea.

The pup's owner asked for help after the puppy, Charlie, fell 100 feet down cliffs on Llandudno's Little Orme headland, ending up in the sea below.

As a result, and at the request of Holyhead Coastguard, Llandudno's RNLI inshore lifeboat launched at 3.25 p.m., reaching the scene a few minutes later. The RNLI crew quickly recovered the puppy, which from its cuts and grazes had clearly suffered a nasty fall, and were able to speak to its owner ashore.

With his agreement, Charlie was made as comfortable as possible aboard the lifeboat, which then cruised at slow speed back to the resort's lifeboat slipway for the casualty to be reunited with his owner.


hmmmm interesting debate perhaps as to whether our life boats and emergency services should be used to rescue pets? I actually can't make my mind up!
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Post by: martin on January 13, 2012, 08:57:11 pm
Thankfully the crew do care for animals, just wish more people did.
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Post by: Fester on January 13, 2012, 09:18:07 pm
The answer is NO..... unless its my pet of course.
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Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2012, 09:51:44 pm
It's good practice for the RNLI crews, I'd have thought?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 13, 2012, 10:22:01 pm
Seems very fair to me, I would give them a donation if they had saved one of my birds!
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Post by: wrex on January 14, 2012, 09:09:16 pm
Had a lovely walk today around the summit walls, it was nice to see so many people enjoying the town and the Orme and really makes you apprciate living here and of course this is why Yorkie and i try to keep on top of our beloved clls.
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Post by: Fester on January 14, 2012, 11:06:12 pm
Had a lovely walk today around the summit walls, it was nice to see so many people enjoying the town and the Orme and really makes you apprciate living here and of course this is why Yorkie and i try to keep on top of our beloved clls.

.... and each other, from time to time!
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Post by: wrex on January 15, 2012, 10:02:54 am
 Your right Fester,Yorkie does need sorting out now and again. :-X
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Post by: Yorkie on January 15, 2012, 02:16:40 pm

Your right Fester,Yorkie does need sorting out now and again. :-X

Many have tried and many have failed! $angry2$
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Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2012, 10:52:32 pm
I have just reported the street lights issue via the Report It site on the Council's website

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/drstreetlights.asp?cat=2805&doc=15473&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/drstreetlights.asp?cat=2805&doc=15473&Language=1)

We'll see if that has any effect
Good news, Jason, the lights have been fixed. Bad news is the ones on the old Next Clearance and the Edinburgh Woollen Mill shops have now stopped working...

Fact is, all the floodlights along Mostyn Street are nearly 40 years old and completely clapped out.
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Post by: Fester on January 15, 2012, 11:55:10 pm
I know the feeling.  :(
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Post by: wrex on January 16, 2012, 04:13:33 pm
Right now all is quiet, the end of the sales is near and we all wait to see what the new year brings. We await the start of Travelodge,Sainsburys,Caffe Nero and a few more, weprey that not too many more high st names dissapear, we should be grateful that things like the extravaganza and Celtic fayre are still going and give all buissnesses a lift and to all those people who are thinking of going for a council seat,please do it for the right reason and not just for politics or prestige,remember this town needs improvements in the ,lighting dept, gardening dept,the deteriation of the west shore and many more.
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Post by: martin on January 16, 2012, 04:24:12 pm
Right now all is quiet, the end of the sales is near and we all wait to see what the new year brings. We await the start of Travelodge,Sainsburys,Caffe Nero and a few more, weprey that not too many more high st names dissapear, we should be grateful that things like the extravaganza and Celtic fayre are still going and give all buissnesses a lift and to all those people who are thinking of going for a council seat,please do it for the right reason and not just for politics or prestige,remember this town needs improvements in the ,lighting dept, gardening dept,the deteriation of the west shore and many more.
"Do it for the right reason", do you think such a person still exists?
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Post by: Dave on January 16, 2012, 05:47:14 pm
The Mini Rally yesterday not only put a few smiles on peoples faces but contributed towards the upkeep of Marine Drive
(http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a479/DaveWales/GtOrmeMiniRally011.jpg)
Not often you see a queue to pay
(http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a479/DaveWales/GtOrmeMiniRally020-1.jpg)
It's a shame they were parked in full shade on a bitterly cold day.Still there were quite a few people showing interest.
(http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a479/DaveWales/GtOrmeMiniRally047.jpg)
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Post by: hollins on January 16, 2012, 06:28:00 pm
Great photos again Dave. I remember your stunning photos of the Queen Mary in Liverpool. Are you the same Dave?
The Minis bring back many happy memories for me. My first ever car was a Mini bought new in 1976 for £1,200. My great aunt lent me the money so that I could get to my first proper job.
It leaked terribly but I thought it was marvellous to be mobile at last.
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Post by: dwsi on January 16, 2012, 06:45:36 pm
Wirral Minis Owners Club Mini rally held in Llandudno - Daily Post North Wales http://bit.ly/wveM5K (http://bit.ly/wveM5K)

Wirral To Llandudno Run | Wirral Minis http://bit.ly/zq5dZY (http://bit.ly/zq5dZY)
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Post by: DaveR on January 16, 2012, 07:43:55 pm
The Mini Rally yesterday not only put a few smiles on peoples faces but contributed towards the upkeep of Marine Drive
Nice to see another Nikon owner called Dave on the forum.  ;)
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Post by: Dave on January 16, 2012, 07:53:07 pm
The Mini Rally yesterday not only put a few smiles on peoples faces but contributed towards the upkeep of Marine Drive
Nice to see another Nikon owner called Dave on the forum.  ;)
I think we are on the ascendancy Dave, although I am about to buy a Canon too ( camera body folks, don't panic)
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Post by: JasonW on January 16, 2012, 08:14:47 pm
;) Thanks Jason.
Llandudno Railway Station Development
2 - 3 months delay due to formalising agreement between CCBC and Network Rail.
My estimates put this back to May/June.
Will report this to Scrutiny Chairs for consideration of review.
Goodness knows why this couldn't have been preprared in parallel with Grant applications?
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Post by: wrex on January 16, 2012, 08:49:50 pm
 $good$ Thanks for keeping us informed.
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Post by: norman08 on January 16, 2012, 09:05:15 pm
i see the white panel was down today [ next to the cafe] what a mess ,when AND if the station gets done  we can believe it  $thanx$:
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Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2012, 12:40:16 pm
I was pleased to see that the Alice in Wonderland exhibition that used to be in Trinity Square has been purchased by Barry Mortlock from Coffee Culture and he intends to relocate an expanded version of it to new premises in the town.
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Post by: Craigydonian on January 19, 2012, 03:13:38 pm
I was pleased to see that the Alice in Wonderland exhibition that used to be in Trinity Square has been purchased by Barry Mortlock from Coffee Culture and he intends to relocate an expanded version of it to new premises in the town.

The ful story is in today's North Wales Weekly News.
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Post by: Yorkie on January 19, 2012, 04:23:06 pm
In fact the NWWN seems to  have been listening as it seemed to have more news and articles than usual!   Judith's pen has been operating at Mach 1 speeds!      ZXZ
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Post by: wrex on January 19, 2012, 08:19:32 pm
Well done to Barry Mortlock for doing what the town council could not,purchasing the Alice collection.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 19, 2012, 08:45:09 pm
In fact the NWWN seems to  have been listening as it seemed to have more news and articles than usual!   Judith's pen has been operating at Mach 1 speeds!      ZXZ

They had a stand in Asda this morning promoting the NWWN and I asked which edition should I buy living in Penrhyn Bay. They explained the different areas, but did agree with me when I said that I wanted to see news for the whole area. Anyway I bought a copy and thought it had improved a lot since I last bought a copy! But please just do one edition for the whole area!
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Post by: DaveR on January 19, 2012, 09:04:47 pm
I agree, best edition of the Weekly News for quite a while.
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Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2012, 11:31:53 am
Gloddaeth Street will be closed from Nigel Roberts Newagents to the Carlton Roundabout in early February for about a week in order to replace the sewers.
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Post by: Llechwedd on January 20, 2012, 12:00:52 pm
Which have probably been damaged by those horrible steam engines clanking along over them causing vibrations.
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Post by: martin on January 20, 2012, 12:22:41 pm
I have yet to see this event, but from what I have read on here, the steam engines are not well received, why is this?  Yours, puzzled of Gyffin $scratch$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 20, 2012, 12:36:16 pm
   puzzles me too, for us the steam engines are the best part  D).  There is a lot to see and the transport festival on Bodafon fields is great too (which reminds me to try to book one of our classic cars in)
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Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2012, 12:39:27 pm
Steam Engines are very popular, without a doubt.  $walesflag$
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Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2012, 01:18:41 pm
Each to their own or one man's meat is another man's poison!
Loved by some, hated by others the Extravaganza and associated festival is attended by choice. Only if you happen to live on the parade route do you get the pleasure/nuisance of the noise and muck ! If you live elsewhere it is only for 3 days out of 365 in a whole year! :-X
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 20, 2012, 01:36:47 pm
366 in 2012.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on January 20, 2012, 05:39:53 pm
I am the number one supporter, whoopee.
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Post by: dwsi on January 20, 2012, 05:53:09 pm
Welsh Conservatives pull out of Llandudno conference - North Wales News - Daily Post North Wales http://bit.ly/yHCZiF (http://bit.ly/yHCZiF)
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Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2012, 07:21:56 pm
Welsh Conservatives pull out of Llandudno conference - North Wales News - Daily Post North Wales http://bit.ly/yHCZiF (http://bit.ly/yHCZiF)
Apparently, they couldn't afford it.  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
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Post by: martin on January 20, 2012, 07:25:02 pm
And sod the hoteliers who have put aside rooms for them, they should be entitled to compensation $angry$
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Post by: SDQ on January 20, 2012, 08:04:48 pm
With a bit of luck both rooms will be booked by someone else by the weekend!  :)
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Post by: martin on January 20, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 :laugh: L0L :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on January 21, 2012, 08:56:17 am
And sod the hoteliers who have put aside rooms for them, they should be entitled to compensation $angry$
:-* An hotel booking is a legally binding contract !
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Post by: Llechwedd on January 21, 2012, 12:04:16 pm
When my Mother did b and b she was told by the Town Hall that a cancellation had to pay 2/3 of the bill don't know if it still stands but surely a deposit must be paid?

I love the fact that security costs were too high.  Secuurity for what,a bunch of nobodies?  Surely a target for Al Quaida.....not.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 21, 2012, 01:09:39 pm
Anyone with any business acumen always asks for a non-refundable deposit. The amount varies alot from place to place.
Unless the room is re-let the B&B can claim the cost of the room, but not for the meals not taken.
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Post by: DaveR on January 21, 2012, 03:33:16 pm
The former CCBC nursing home, Plas Gogarth, on Abbey Road, is now boarded up. There is an auction of the contents this Friday
, viewing starts at 9.30am and the auction itself begins at 12.30.
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Post by: DaveR on January 22, 2012, 01:17:03 pm
The former CCBC nursing home, Plas Gogarth, on Abbey Road, is now boarded up. There is an auction of the contents this Friday
, viewing starts at 9.30am and the auction itself begins at 12.30.
A mooch around Plas Gogarth this morning:
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Post by: Nemesis on January 22, 2012, 01:22:13 pm
The former CCBC nursing home, Plas Gogarth, on Abbey Road, is now boarded up. There is an auction of the contents this Friday
, viewing starts at 9.30am and the auction itself begins at 12.30.

Wow ! money in CBC's pocket !
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Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2012, 09:36:43 am
Interesting article in the Huffington post about the plans to revive the Alice connection in Llandudno:

"The Directors of Alice In Wonderland Ltd., Barry Mortlock and Simon Burrows, have purchased the Rabbit Hole content from Llandudno resident Muriel Ratcliffe, the owner of 20 years. They have launched a new Wonderland website to offer the finest Alice in Wonderland collectibles from around the world, and to act as portal to communicate new Alice initiatives underway in Llandudno. The team is working closely with the local County Council to bring an updated Alice trail to Llandudno. It will be a walking trail with 10 to 12 key places of interest that will depict the connection of Alice to the town. The new age trail will feature high tech interactive activities and will be open to the public in fiscal 2013/2014. Llandudno's existing railway station is also undergoing a major redevelopment. It will become the start of the trail. Mortlock and Burrows' coffee shop, currently housed within the town's large Waterstone's bookstore, is also being revamped "Alice style", which no one will be able to miss since it will be the final watering hole at the end of the Wonderland trail. Muriel Ratcliffe will stay involved in their plans to bring the strong Alice connection back to the town of LLandudno. Ratcliffe explains, "I get phone calls and emails to this day asking if the attraction is still open.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/c-m-rubin/alice-in-wales_b_1208046.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/c-m-rubin/alice-in-wales_b_1208046.html)

http://www.wonderland.co.uk/ (http://www.wonderland.co.uk/)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 23, 2012, 09:50:43 am
I've just looked at the prices on that Wonderland website  :o :o :o they can't be serious can they? 

I keep hearing that there is no link with Alice  (apart from the mad hatter's teaparty in the town hall) but if it brings tourists in spending money then great!  D)
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Post by: Yorkie on January 23, 2012, 12:24:36 pm
It is amazing how much money folks have - even in a recession!    ZXZ
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Post by: martin on January 23, 2012, 12:48:33 pm
I've just looked at the prices on that Wonderland website  :o :o :o they can't be serious can they? 

I keep hearing that there is no link with Alice  (apart from the mad hatter's teaparty in the town hall) but if it brings tourists in spending money then great!  D)
My mind is well and truly boggled by those prices.  Who on earth would pay that sort of money, but I suppose they know there is a market out there.
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Post by: hollins on January 23, 2012, 01:11:15 pm
I can remember taking my niece to the Alice museum. It was about 10 years ago when she was about 7 years old and we were on holiday in Llandudno.
During the visit I wasn't that impressed but my niece was absolutely transfixed by it. When we met up with her mother later she could describe what she had seen in minute detail.
She still talks about going there with her auntie all these years ago, so I for one hope they get it all going again.
I think they may have an uphill task on the trail idea with the absence of Penmorfa and the state of the white rabbit but I wish them well.
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Post by: Fester on January 23, 2012, 01:19:09 pm
Thats a very good point Hollins.
Can you imagine the embarrassment when taking an interested visitor to West Shore, to see a whole in the ground and a vandalised statue??

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 23, 2012, 01:34:33 pm
By the time they come, it will all be under sand dunes, perhaps that's the plan  :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2012, 01:55:49 pm
I'm not even sure West Shore is on the Trail, being as there is only a vandalised rabbit to look at there. I believe the trail spends a lot of time in Happy Valley.
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Post by: wrex on January 23, 2012, 07:52:27 pm
Made me laught the mad hatters teaparty in the town hall,were does Yorkie fit in.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 23, 2012, 07:56:23 pm
Yorkie don't fit in!   He is studying to become a Global Chief Executive as he hasn't ever been one - but he does know a man who has!     L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 23, 2012, 08:33:56 pm
Have I been demoted again?   :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on January 24, 2012, 11:50:34 am
Does anyone know if the town will be celebrating the Queen's Jubilee week end?  Perhaps the Extravaganza will do something instead of the usual boring pseudo Victorian stuff?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 25, 2012, 06:32:53 pm
There was a very good rainbow this afternoon

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0495.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0497.jpg)
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Post by: martin on January 25, 2012, 06:34:20 pm
There's lovely $good$
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Post by: JasonW on January 25, 2012, 11:04:43 pm
Does anyone know if the town will be celebrating the Queen's Jubilee week end?  Perhaps the Extravaganza will do something instead of the usual boring pseudo Victorian stuff?
Not quite Llandudno, but we are holding the Deganwy Prom Day and Jubilee Celebrations on Sat 2nd June (from 11am)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on January 26, 2012, 09:28:32 am
Lovely photos of the rainbow, ME.  When I saw it, it looked as if the end was your side of the Little Orme, so I wondered if you'd found the pot of gold? 
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Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2012, 09:33:10 am
Lovely photos of the rainbow, ME.  When I saw it, it looked as if the end was your side of the Little Orme, so I wondered if you'd found the pot of gold?
Oh, he certainly has, it's inscribed with the letters G....V...C.  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 26, 2012, 09:35:07 am
Nice one Dave!   Obviously an in-joke for the three of us ... but Merddin will like that methinks!  $hands$ $hands$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 26, 2012, 09:49:27 am
Oh yes! a very nice pot of gold  $good$  ZXZ  <:<:<:<
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 26, 2012, 01:39:35 pm
Interesting article in the Huffington post about the plans to revive the Alice connection in Llandudno:

"The Directors of Alice In Wonderland Ltd., Barry Mortlock and Simon Burrows, have purchased the Rabbit Hole content from Llandudno resident Muriel Ratcliffe, the owner of 20 years. They have launched a new Wonderland website to offer the finest Alice in Wonderland collectibles from around the world, and to act as portal to communicate new Alice initiatives underway in Llandudno. The team is working closely with the local County Council to bring an updated Alice trail to Llandudno. It will be a walking trail with 10 to 12 key places of interest that will depict the connection of Alice to the town. The new age trail will feature high tech interactive activities and will be open to the public in fiscal 2013/2014. Llandudno's existing railway station is also undergoing a major redevelopment. It will become the start of the trail. Mortlock and Burrows' coffee shop, currently housed within the town's large Waterstone's bookstore, is also being revamped "Alice style", which no one will be able to miss since it will be the final watering hole at the end of the Wonderland trail. Muriel Ratcliffe will stay involved in their plans to bring the strong Alice connection back to the town of LLandudno. Ratcliffe explains, "I get phone calls and emails to this day asking if the attraction is still open.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/c-m-rubin/alice-in-wales_b_1208046.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/c-m-rubin/alice-in-wales_b_1208046.html)

http://www.wonderland.co.uk/ (http://www.wonderland.co.uk/)

Rather a cryptic comment posted on Oscar on this subject.! :o
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Post by: Mikethewatch on January 26, 2012, 01:41:22 pm
You beat me to it, just noticed that posting !
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Post by: Nemesis on January 26, 2012, 01:43:31 pm
mmm---- a difficult one .
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 28, 2012, 10:17:36 am
We had a great time yesterday in Venue Cymru,  we went for a walk in the morning and when I was going past VC I remembered that David Dickinson was there with the team from 'Dickinson's Real Deal' so we popped in for a quick look. There were not many people there and we watched a few deals being done and retake after retake! There are 4 separate dealers sections, each with it's own film crew, several times we were required as extras in the background, afterwards we were rewarded with free coffee & food (no entrance fee either, right up my boulevard  ;D ) After about an hour and a half we thought lets go home and find something to sell, so after a quick sandwich at home (I eat a lot :laugh:) we returned clutching valuable antiques ;)  we had our items looked at and 2 were selected to be filmed for the show, the first was an enamelled sign (Lyon's Tea) that I had bought for a tenner about 3 years ago at a car boot, Helen was doing the on screen bit and the dealer offered £60  :o  D) Helen turned to me in the background and asked if that was ok, I nodded in agreement (in my head I was screaming 'YES, YES!!! ) That was a good result!  Our other item was filmed also with er indoors but the offer was not enough so on the 28th April it's off to Morgan Evans,  Anglesey  for auction, we had a good chat with the auctioneer afterwards and we will be putting a few other items into the same auction  D)
In all a great day, cost nowt and a good earner too, David Dickinson is a total professional, going form dealer to dealer filming different deals, he was good to talk to too!               

We received a letter yesterday informing us that the programme with erindoors in it will be shown on Monday afternoon on ITV1 2pm
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Post by: llandudnotrust on January 29, 2012, 02:55:16 pm
The TV will be on ready
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 29, 2012, 10:32:39 pm
I shall be in meetings for most of the day but I am recording it with the aid of my Sky+ planner and in HD.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 29, 2012, 10:35:08 pm
erindoors in HD  :o :o   only joking, she knows I love her really :)
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Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2012, 04:48:47 pm
I've watched it and recorded it but don't know who was Mrs ME but I did see a husband and wife on it that I go to coffee mornings with.   I must remember to ask for their autographs next time I see them.      :)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 30, 2012, 04:53:29 pm
Mrs ME was selling the stained glass fire screen
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Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2012, 04:59:38 pm
I thought that it might be her as she mentioned a house move.   You've gone from one beautiful location to another and I hope that you've settled in well in your new home.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 30, 2012, 06:05:52 pm
Thanks, mind you soon we will be moving to Rhos on Sea! only a couple of miles away.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 30, 2012, 07:12:06 pm
Got my OH to record it whilst I was doing my stint at the Charity Shop. Saw you both-- well done!
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Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2012, 07:21:09 pm
I missed it completely as I was boozing in Fountains!

However, you can see it here on ITV Player:
http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=303651 (http://www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=303651)
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Post by: Nemesis on January 30, 2012, 07:23:32 pm
You weren't in the coffin that was being carted out of the side door early this morning?
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Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2012, 07:30:04 pm
You weren't in the coffin that was being carted out of the side door early this morning?
No, that was a former employee that crossed the owner...
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Post by: Nemesis on January 30, 2012, 07:39:29 pm
 $donald$
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Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2012, 07:48:25 pm
Screenshot:
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Post by: Nemesis on February 01, 2012, 11:05:17 am
In today's Pioneer
Fountains are hoping to turn the old pet shop into more dining space and new toilets.
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Post by: Fester on February 01, 2012, 11:21:53 am
They are already well on with it..... should be unveiled within a couple of weeks I reckon.

Fountains still open and trading normally.   (Its just that the bogs are downstairs for now)
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Post by: DaveR on February 01, 2012, 11:29:16 am
 ££$
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Post by: wrex on February 01, 2012, 03:22:19 pm
 Nice to see Mr Dickens still investing in his empire. ££$
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Post by: dwsi on February 01, 2012, 07:18:21 pm
Some interesting parking outside Llandudno Post Office this afternoon, beats the usual double parking. Captured by my brothers better half.
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Post by: Jack on February 01, 2012, 07:24:54 pm
I saw that myself around 3pm, wondered whether a car or wagon coming around the bend too fast would clip it!!?
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Post by: hollins on February 01, 2012, 08:03:10 pm
Must be French! Looks like Parisian parking.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 01, 2012, 08:11:17 pm
It is French, it's a Peugeot! And no offence to any owners but not the most attractive to look at!
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Post by: norman08 on February 01, 2012, 08:23:15 pm
THAT IS HOW PARING SHOULD BE , ON ONE SIDE WOULD HAVE MORE PARKING WHY HASN,T BEEN DONE YEARS AGO , AND JACK HOPE A CAR/WAGON WASN,T SPEEDING ROUND THAT CORNER ZEBRA CROSSING THERE.
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Post by: DaveR on February 01, 2012, 09:02:36 pm
Nice to see Mr Dickens still investing in his empire. ££$
It's about time....  :laugh:
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Post by: TheMedz on February 01, 2012, 10:44:42 pm
No - this is Parisian parking.

Funniest parking attempt ever! FAIL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N92EFzeiX0#)
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Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2012, 09:00:26 am
Apparently, comedian Billy Connolly was eating in the Hambone yesterday.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 02, 2012, 09:30:40 am
and he visited Holland & Barretts.

We are two of the lucky few to have a pair of tickets for his show tomorrow evening.  D)
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Post by: Fester on February 02, 2012, 10:46:48 am
I saw him!!   But didn't realise it was actually him.
I was walking into Cafe Culture to meet Dave R, and he walked towards me...

He had a grey coat and hat on,... I remember thinking, ''look at that guy, he looks an awful lot like Billy Connolly''

If I had known he was actually in town this week, I would have known to snatch a picture for this Forum's celeb spotting thread.
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Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2012, 11:39:36 am
Which Forum Member will be the first to get a photo of the Big Yin?:
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Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2012, 01:38:01 pm
https://twitter.com/#!/CarlRussellOwen/status/165021929332420608/photo/1
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 02, 2012, 02:57:43 pm
Is that in the St Georges Hotel?
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Post by: wrex on February 02, 2012, 04:10:28 pm
Nice of the big yin to spend a little time in the town,he;s not on until tommorrow and doing 2 nites.
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Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2012, 07:58:06 pm
Is that in the St Georges Hotel?
Looks like the Terrace there.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 02, 2012, 08:21:37 pm
Suggesting he maybe staying there especially with all the recent sightings being only a stone's throw away.
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Post by: martin on February 02, 2012, 08:57:54 pm
I have just been reading an article in the on-line Daily Mail regarding Billy and the shows he did last week.  If it is to be believed, it seems the show has not been very well received, and on two nights he has cut the show short. 
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Post by: DaveR on February 03, 2012, 04:40:02 pm
Fester and I have just met Billy Connolly in Mostyn St.  $good$
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Post by: dwsi on February 03, 2012, 05:09:32 pm
BBC News - Billy Connolly ends comedy shows early after heckles http://bbc.in/yjGboZ (http://bbc.in/yjGboZ)
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Post by: Fester on February 03, 2012, 08:09:04 pm
He is 70 this year to be fair to him. (As Dave discovered earlier)

I reckon when he was younger, any drunken heckler would have been cut down to size by a witty riposte, or else he would have chinned them. 
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 03, 2012, 10:45:53 pm
Well I just returned from Venue Cymru where Billy Connolly performed to a sold-out theatre and he was absolutely brilliant.

He maybe 70 this year but he stepped out onto the stage just after 8pm and told jokes non-stop for two and a half hours in a way that only Billy Connolly can.
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Post by: wrex on February 04, 2012, 07:51:20 am
Im glad the big yin proved the critics wrong.Can you imagine if the Arena had a sellout crowd as well last nite,that would have been 4,000 people in Llandudno on a friday nite instead of 1,500.I wonder how many of last nites audience stayed over last nite and are making a weekend of it.
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Post by: emma p on February 04, 2012, 07:41:07 pm
Just wondering if youve had any snow up there ? We've had plenty if you want to share !!! x
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Post by: Bellringer on February 04, 2012, 08:18:22 pm
No snow here, it's just been cold and wet.
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Post by: dwsi on February 04, 2012, 10:11:37 pm
Venue Cymru : THE OSMONDS FINAL UK TOUR http://bit.ly/zKDEl4 (http://bit.ly/zKDEl4)
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Post by: Yorkie on February 05, 2012, 08:49:06 am
No snow here, it's just been cold and wet.

No snow here either - just temperatures about the 70 F mark and blazing sunshine.   Back to reality soon tho'.    8)   8)   8)
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Post by: wrex on February 05, 2012, 01:49:53 pm
seems like a young rugby player has bee airlifted to ysbyty gwynedd,lets hope he is ok
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Post by: Cambrian on February 05, 2012, 03:07:59 pm
Wrex - a short while ago it looked as if the ambulance was stuck - people trying to pull it out with a landrover.
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Post by: dwsi on February 05, 2012, 04:18:29 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6823038809_6d83a25b40_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ffotograffiaeth/6823038809/)
Wales Air ambulance at Llandudno rugby club (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ffotograffiaeth/6823038809/#) by Anthony Woodhouse (http://www.flickr.com/people/ffotograffiaeth/), on Flickr
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Post by: DaveR on February 06, 2012, 07:54:55 pm
There has been thick fog in Llandudno for most of the day, haven't known it this bad for a couple of years. A few iPhone pics:
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Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2012, 10:19:47 am
FIRE chiefs are set to cut a life-saving aerial ladder platform (ALP) from Llandudno – sparking anger from hotel owners.

Members of the North Wales Fire Authority yesterday recommended the town loses its 100ft rescue and fire-fighting ladder in cash saving cuts for the service.

But hoteliers have vowed to fight to try and save the ladder over fears that delays could have tragic circumstances at one of the resort’s 200 hotels and B&Bs, some of which are seven storeys high.

David Williams, chair of the Llandudno Hospitality Association, said: “We are very annoyed by this decision, we have more bed spaces than any other resort in Wales, certainly a lot more than Rhyl.

“We have spent thousands of pounds on our hotels to improve fire safety but this is a partnership with the fire service and we feel they are letting us down.

“Any tragedy would impact on tourism, especially if there was a delay. The A55 is well known for delays so that is another concern.

“We will oppose this and seek support from Llandudno Town Council and the county council.”

Members had to decide to ditch one of the fire service’s four ladders based in Llandudno, Rhyl, Wrexham and Bangor, increasing the standard response time from 20 minutes to 30 minutes.

After initially ruling out Bangor and Wrexham due to their locations the authority was left with a straight choice between the two holiday resorts of Llandudno and Rhyl.

Cllr Merfyn Thomas proposed that Llandudno should be spared but was voted down by members. He said as well as covering Llandudno and its many hotels it provided a swift response to the Conwy Valley.

Figures released by the service showed the Llandudno ALP had been mobilised 35 times in the 18 months from April 1 2010, and used on 10 occasions. Rhyl’s ALP had been mobilised 55 times and used on 12 incidents.

A final decision will now be made in the March meeting of the full authority. The decision will save around £50,000 a year for the fire service.

Previous moves to remove the ladder from Llandudno in 2006 were dropped after a public outcry.

Authority member JV Owen said they had to put aside parochial bias and make a decision based on the figures and information provided.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/02/07/fire-rescue-ladder-facing-the-axe-in-llandudno-55578-30279681/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/02/07/fire-rescue-ladder-facing-the-axe-in-llandudno-55578-30279681/)
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Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2012, 03:35:01 pm
Looks like I've scooped the local press once again - I can reveal that the Tudno Castle Hotel is to become a 64 bedroom Premier Inn. The ground floors are to let for restaurant or retail use.
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Post by: Ian48 on February 07, 2012, 03:46:57 pm
Where do you get this info?????? Great news though. Is it the same as the Clarence (ie private investor developing to rent to Premier Inn?).

2012 isn't turning out too badly so far it seems.
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Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2012, 04:00:26 pm
I've spoken to the Agent handling the sale. Yes, same sort of deal as the Clarence.
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Post by: Bellringer on February 07, 2012, 04:03:19 pm
Well done Dave.

Pleased that it's been a much better day as far as weather is concerned, still a bit on the cool side but lots of sun.
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Post by: Ian48 on February 07, 2012, 05:02:39 pm
Hopefully things can get moving on this soon then, with no more local busybodies concerned members of the public ensuring it gets called in by Cadw and the Welsh Govt. Because if it doesn't the building will fall down soon and developers won't even having to think about keeping the facade intact!

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Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2012, 05:25:51 pm
Bit of info:
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Post by: Ian48 on February 07, 2012, 08:32:31 pm
That's good. Where did you find the plans? That looks like the plan that was given planning permission a few years ago, so hopefully it should be a formality to get it waived through and started.

Funny what I said this morning re Waitrose. Their store in Menai Bridge is 11,500 sq ft and the plan on here is for 25,000 sq ft (albeit over 2 floors). So, there would certainly be enough room for a nice-sized and prominently sited store. It would get a lot of trade from Parc Llandudno too, from people who need a few things but who hate/can't cope with the crowds at/can't be bothered walking to ASDA. We can but dream!

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Post by: DaveR on February 07, 2012, 08:53:22 pm
The Agent sent me a PDF will all the info in it. Yes, the project has full planning permission, so its ready to go.

Options for the non-hotel part are:

Restaurant/Retail Unit - 7,500 sq feet.
Retail Unit - 12,000 sq feet.
or combine both units to get a potential 25,000 sq feet retail unit over 2 floors.
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Post by: Craigydonian on February 07, 2012, 10:24:04 pm
Looks like I've scooped the local press once again - I can reveal that the Tudno Castle Hotel is to become a 64 bedroom Premier Inn. The ground floors are to let for restaurant or retail use.

I have today spoken to the owner of the site, who has kept me informed all along. Nothing is signed or sealed yet, but he has promised to let me know as soon as it is and I'm confident that he will. I believe negotiations are currently at a delicate stage and he doesn't want to rock the boat. The plans are the same as those originally proposed for the site but there is now a different prospective tenant involved.
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Post by: telmah on February 07, 2012, 11:10:15 pm
Can you tell us who the agents are? or is this not for public knowledge
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Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2012, 07:21:32 am
Agents name is no secret, there's  a big sign on the front of the hotel with the name on it.  ;D

The document I have clearly states that part of the building has been 'pre let' to Premier Inn. Would they be able to say that if no deal had been signed? Surely they would end up looking foolish if a deal could not be agreed?
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Post by: Cambrian on February 08, 2012, 09:06:34 am
I hope the positive comments re the Tudno Castle do come to pass but I guess I am not alone in thinking that - like the railway station - I will only be convinced when I see a reputable contractor established on site. Incidentally, presumably Mostyn is the landowner of the Tudno Castle site - they seem to own the little car park between it and Parc Llandudno.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 08, 2012, 09:12:27 am
Agents name is no secret, there's  a big sign on the front of the hotel with the name on it.  ;D

The document I have clearly states that part of the building has been 'pre let' to Premier Inn. Would they be able to say that if no deal had been signed? Surely they would end up looking foolish if a deal could not be agreed?

This sign :D

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0772.jpg)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 08, 2012, 09:37:10 am
I share the same views of both Craigydonian and Cambrian.

I also believe we should not get too excited about this news.

This is not exactly Savills UK we are dealing with but Henry operating his business with a mobile phone and a website still under construction.

http://www.pandpartners.co.uk (http://www.pandpartners.co.uk)

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Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2012, 09:53:18 am
To be fair, he's a FRICS.

"RICS members (MRICS) who are major achievers in their careers may apply to become a Fellow of RICS (FRICS). They will be leaders in the profession and active people who have completed unique projects or contributed significantly to the profession."
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 08, 2012, 10:10:31 am
That is good to hear.

Are these the same people or just a similar name?

Prescott & Partners acquire Fleet Street Restaurant

Prescott & Partners, a joint venture between Sir Terence Conran and Peter Prescott, has acquired a new site on Fleet Street for the launch of its second venture.

Cedar Dean acted on behalf of Prescott & Partners to acquire the 10,000sq ft site, which was let to the company on a 35-year lease, will be converted into a fine dining restaurant concept to be called Lutyens Grill.

The company opened its first development The Boundary in December in Shoreditch, a 30,000sq ft, seven-floor complex located adjacent to the Tea Building featuring a restaurant, café, food store and 17 bedrooms.
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Post by: Craigydonian on February 08, 2012, 12:22:26 pm
To be fair, he's a FRICS.

"RICS members (MRICS) who are major achievers in their careers may apply to become a Fellow of RICS (FRICS). They will be leaders in the profession and active people who have completed unique projects or contributed significantly to the profession."

Henry Prescott previously worked for Mason Owen based in Liverpool and has been involved in this project from the start together with the owner of the property. However I'm assured that contrary to appearances no firm contract has been signed.
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Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2012, 12:29:05 pm
There's an odd little story in the Pioneer today about the Tudno Castle, that seems to give the impression that the whole site is for sale? That wasn't what I was told, the story was that they were looking for tenants for the retail part of the development, and thats what the PDF clearly says.

You'd have thought they could have got it clear by now, been that the site has been a derelict eyesore for so long......  :roll:
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Post by: wrex on February 08, 2012, 12:42:10 pm
Detective DaveR get on this case now, when are Parc Llandudno starting the infill on Broadway,we have faith in you.Pier Pavillion next. :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2012, 12:51:26 pm
Hmmmmm....
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Post by: Craigydonian on February 08, 2012, 02:23:24 pm
There's an odd little story in the Pioneer today about the Tudno Castle, that seems to give the impression that the whole site is for sale? That wasn't what I was told, the story was that they were looking for tenants for the retail part of the development, and thats what the PDF clearly says.

You'd have thought they could have got it clear by now, been that the site has been a derelict eyesore for so long......  :roll:

That's why journalism shouldn't be based on rumour. The current situation is that a tenant is being sought, the owner of the building is talking to one, but as of this morning is adamant that nothing has been signed or agreed, and I have had this confirmed from a third party who says an agreement is very much up in the air. Brian's assessment of the situation is correct.
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Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2012, 02:37:19 pm
No rumours involved, the information was in the document issued by the representative of the owner.

Read it for yourself.....
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 08, 2012, 05:04:56 pm
Incidentally, presumably Mostyn is the landowner of the Tudno Castle site - they seem to own the little car park between it and Parc Llandudno.

Without wanting to distract from what is most important at the moment with this debate, can somebody please try and explain to me how Mostyn Estates (as landowners) can force hotel owners on the promenade to maintain their properties externally, including the correct shade of pink paint, whilst simultaneously letting the owner of the Tudno Castle allow his property deteriorate to the extent that he has in recent times?
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Post by: Nemesis on February 08, 2012, 05:11:08 pm
mmmm- It aint what you know-----------
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2012, 06:29:53 pm
Incidentally, presumably Mostyn is the landowner of the Tudno Castle site - they seem to own the little car park between it and Parc Llandudno.

Without wanting to distract from what is most important at the moment with this debate, can somebody please try and explain to me how Mostyn Estates (as landowners) can force hotel owners on the promenade to maintain their properties externally, including the correct shade of pink paint, whilst simultaneously letting the owner of the Tudno Castle allow his property deteriorate to the extent that he has in recent times?
Short answer is...they don't, CCBC do. It's in a Conservation Area. Years ago, CCBC set up a colour scheme for buildings on the promenade. It consists of pastel colours which blend in with neighbouring properties.

As far as the Tudno Castle is concerned, CCBC could take action as regards the state of the building. Maybe they have, and that accounts for the fence was now surrounds it? You could always do a FOI request to find out?

Do Mostyn Estates definitely own the freehold anyway?

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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 08, 2012, 07:01:36 pm
Dunno.

Cambrian is not too sure either.  ?{}?

Incidentally, presumably Mostyn is the landowner of the Tudno Castle site - they seem to own the little car park between it and Parc Llandudno.
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Post by: Craigydonian on February 08, 2012, 07:30:54 pm
No rumours involved, the information was in the document issued by the representative of the owner.

Read it for yourself.....
Is the doument dated? As I understand it the deal with Premier Inn fell through more than two years ago and even if there are new negotiations nothing has been firmed up. The owner told me categorically that the property is not for sale ( even though his business partner apparently says the opposite) but they are actively seeking a tenant. He isn't prepared to say more at this stage for fear of jeopardising a possible deal.
The planning permission referred to took 18 months to achieve because of difficulties in getting CADW to deal with the listed building aspect of it, by that time Premier Inn had grown tired of waiting, lost interest in the Tudno Castle,  and invested in building a bedroom block onto the Craigside Inn instead.
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Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2012, 07:54:11 pm
I received the PDF yesterday from the new Agent who stuck his board up a couple of days ago. If you look at the second image I posted yesterday, it does say 'commencing early 2012'. I expect there has been some miscommunication somewhere along the line between owner and agent?

As for Premier Inn, there's a reason they refer to the  Craigside Inn as their 'Llandudno North' unit and not just 'Llandudno'.  ;)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 08, 2012, 09:42:34 pm
DaveR, it may or may not be relevant but Premier Inn refer to The Craigside Inn as Llandudno North (Little Orme) and The Afon Conwy as Llandudno ( Glan-Conwy).

Following your logic, would not The Tudno Castle be the Llandudno North Unit and The Craigside Inn be the Llandudno South Unit?

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Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2012, 09:47:22 pm
The point was, Bri, that they didn't call Craigside Inn just 'Llandudno', they clearly intend to open another in the town. If you look on their Target Towns list, they have Llandudno listed:
http://www.whitbread.co.uk/whitbread/property/hotelsrestaurants/targettowns.html (http://www.whitbread.co.uk/whitbread/property/hotelsrestaurants/targettowns.html)
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Post by: wrex on February 09, 2012, 07:29:16 am
 $good$ DaveR ,as the editor of the Llandudno Forum daily news may i suggest that you get confirmation of the Premier Inn let and put our doubters to bed.
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Post by: DaveR on February 09, 2012, 11:36:31 am
Llandudno to become the Daffodil capital of Wales
Feb 9 2012
by Judith Phillips, North Wales Weekly News

A SCHEME to make Llandudno the Daffodil Capital of Wales could boost low season tourism next year.
The idea came from guest house owner Karen Fulker of Holcombe House on Abbey Road and a team has come together to make it happen after she floated it at a meeting of Llandudno Hospitality Association.
Karen’s friend and team member Deborah Thompson of the Hilary Guest House in St David’s Road explained: “Our plan is to extend the season in Llandudno by marketing it as the place to see bright, colourful displays of daffodils throughout the late winter and spring.
“Ideas so far are for a mass planting weekend in the autumn and then competitions for the best displays throughout the town and surrounding area.
“There’s even talk of art competitions and displays, poetry, music, daffodil walks and trail, daffodil merchandise – nothing is finalised yet so we are open to suggestions as well as offers of help.”
The project has gained the support of Llandudno Town Council, Conwy County Council, as well as the Llandudno Hospitality Association and several hoteliers. And Deborah said they also hope to get schools and businesses involved.
They also hope to get local schools and business involved too.
“An advantage of daffodils is that they’ll come back year after year,” said Karen. “It’s all very exciting but only in its infancy at the moment. Let’s hope the local people and business get behind this and we can have a massive planting day or even days in the autumn.”
David Williams, chairman of Llandudno Hospitality Association, said: “Karen brought the idea to the executive committee which was very enthusiastic and gave their full support.
“It’s important that we look at ways of attracting visitors to come here in low season and this seems to be an excellent way of encouraging people to come for a few days and if they like what they see to come back again.”

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/02/09/llandudno-to-become-the-daffodil-capital-of-wales-55243-30292535/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/02/09/llandudno-to-become-the-daffodil-capital-of-wales-55243-30292535/)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 09, 2012, 03:07:08 pm
Saw this yesterday in the Wetherspoons News mag

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0784.jpg)
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Post by: wrex on February 09, 2012, 04:17:26 pm
I thought Gregg was banned from standing outside pubs with his chain on. On the daffodils idea,firstly CCBC must plant thousands of Daffs first this autumn then everyone else can follow suit.
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Post by: DaveR on February 09, 2012, 08:09:03 pm
Indeed, it's a good idea if done properly. The question is how the centre of the town could benefit, as there is very little green space to plant any daffodils in - could planters filled with daffodil bulbs be placed on the wider pavement areas along Mostyn Street maybe?

This is just the sort of scheme that the Town Council could organise very easily. We hear they're backing the scheme...that's great, so are we all :laugh: , but what are they doing in any tangible sense?
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Post by: dwsi on February 09, 2012, 08:28:03 pm
Plans for a retirement home in Llandudno will go before Conwy's planning committee http://bit.ly/zZHq0v (http://bit.ly/zZHq0v)

Thieves stole gas pipes from a Llandudno B&B http://bit.ly/xNsDVN (http://bit.ly/xNsDVN)
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Post by: Craigydonian on February 09, 2012, 09:20:22 pm
Plans for a retirement home in Llandudno will go before Conwy's planning committee http://bit.ly/zZHq0v (http://bit.ly/zZHq0v)

Thieves stole gas pipes from a Llandudno B&B http://bit.ly/xNsDVN (http://bit.ly/xNsDVN)

Planning permission for the flats was granted on Wednesday ( see today's Weekly News)
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Post by: Yorkie on February 09, 2012, 09:54:59 pm
Thieves stole gas pipes from a Llandudno B&B http://bit.ly/xNsDVN (http://bit.ly/xNsDVN)

That's going to leave a nasty smell!     _))*
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Post by: Nemesis on February 10, 2012, 08:26:09 am
I thought Gregg was banned from standing outside pubs with his chain on. On the daffodils idea,firstly CCBC must plant thousands of Daffs first this autumn then everyone else can follow suit.

That was my thought--they only flower if planted the year before, unless bought ready in bud ! Also it will be a very short trail-- they don't flower for long ;D
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Post by: wrex on February 10, 2012, 12:25:17 pm
Lets not be negative,my god its amazing the town council are getting involved,lets hope with all the new nationals on Mostyn st they get involved in the xmas lights this year.
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Post by: dwsi on February 11, 2012, 12:49:33 pm
Campaigners say Llandudno's Bodafon Fields are at risk - North Wales News - News - Daily Post North Wales http://bit.ly/yPdTZA (http://bit.ly/yPdTZA)

Cycling on Llandudno Promenade moves a step closer - North Wales News - News - Daily Post North Wales http://bit.ly/Ay3LJ6 (http://bit.ly/Ay3LJ6)
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Post by: wrex on February 12, 2012, 09:18:22 am
Should be a busy day today with the Nik Beer race on.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 12, 2012, 11:37:40 am
and the North Wales Regional finals at the swimming centre.

Parking ain't easy today at the rear of VC.

Many cars are parking along Charlotte Road because of the parking restriction on Mostyn Champneys.
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Post by: DaveR on February 12, 2012, 12:32:52 pm
The sun came out just for the start of the Nick Beer Road Race:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7067/6862155253_89a30a3709_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6862155253/)
Only Here For The Beer... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/6862155253/#) by davidrobertsphotography (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

The Mayor, Cllr G T Robbins, was on hand to start the Race. I think he managed admirably without a podium to stand on.
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Post by: hollins on February 12, 2012, 12:37:06 pm
Great photo. I love the contrast between the pastel colours fading away in to the distance and the dayglo outfits of the runners.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 12, 2012, 02:41:41 pm
The Mayor, Cllr G T Robbins, was on hand to start the Race. I think he managed admirably without a podium to stand on.

To his credit, he was still at the finish an hour later.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 12, 2012, 03:07:22 pm
I hope he was looking towards the Pavilion site, he's not got long to sort it! ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on February 12, 2012, 05:45:51 pm
Tuesday (Valentines Day) will be great as I'm bringing back buckets and buckets of sunshine with me!     ;D
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Post by: wrex on February 12, 2012, 10:09:15 pm
 :-*How romantic Yorkie. &shake&
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Post by: Nemesis on February 13, 2012, 08:16:55 am
Tuesday (Valentines Day) will be great as I'm bringing back buckets and buckets of sunshine with me!     ;D

We might hold you to that !! ;D
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Post by: DaveR on February 13, 2012, 10:15:04 pm
The roadworks on Gloddaeth Street are already annoying me. If you're on Upper Mostyn St and want to walk down to the main part of Mostyn St, you have to walk right around past Nigel Roberts Newsagents. Or rather, that's what you are supposed to do. Instead, most people seem to be walking in the road by the Carlton roundabout! There's plenty of room for the contractors to allow a walkway.

I also notice they have already managed to demolish a corner of the stone flower planter that's in the middle of the road.  :(
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Post by: Bellringer on February 14, 2012, 09:26:11 am
What work is going on and how long is it scheduled to last?
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Post by: Nemesis on February 14, 2012, 09:33:01 am
They are repairing the sewers, not sure how long for, but Bodhyfrid Road is to be closed from March 1st for months, due to work on the Clarence. I have still to find out what the businesses which include Tom Owen are supposed to do vehicle wise. I hope he isn't going to be expected to maneuver his hearse and limos backwards and forwards in a limited space, let alone his poor clients.
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Post by: DaveR on February 14, 2012, 09:56:31 am
Think the sewer work is only for a week or so.
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Post by: hollins on February 14, 2012, 03:48:02 pm
The chaos and 15 mins to pay in M&S and the calm and no wait to pay in Asda.
I can't believe I am saying this because until I came to live here I was an M&S junkie but the chaos around the tills in M&S in Llandudno is enough to put off the most ardent supporter.
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Post by: DaveR on February 14, 2012, 03:57:09 pm
They'll have to buck their ideas up once Sainsburys open.
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Post by: hollins on February 14, 2012, 06:55:26 pm
The food is mostly still excellent. We have just eaten the £20 Valentine's dine in meal which I queued up for for so long today.
Prawns with garlic butter, whole sea bass with chilli, peas and beans, chocolate souffle, a bottle of Cava and heart shaped chocolates. $dins$
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Post by: dwsi on February 14, 2012, 07:44:13 pm
BBC News - 'Ridiculous' Llandudno fire station fire ladder removal plan http://bbc.in/yA57ig (http://bbc.in/yA57ig)

It looks like that North Wales Fire and Rescue Authority is being run by accountants and not by common sense
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Post by: dwsi on February 14, 2012, 07:45:29 pm
BBC News - Llandudno promenade cyclists ban is lifted by council http://bbc.in/A9ll5k (http://bbc.in/A9ll5k)
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Post by: Yorkie on February 14, 2012, 07:53:55 pm
Hooray - I can ride my SEGWAY along Llandudno Promenade!
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Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2012, 09:06:00 am
Did anyone see the Tram being hauled through town yesterday afternoon, with 'Mandy, Be My Valentine' written on the side of it?
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Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2012, 10:50:08 am
House fire on Trinity Ave this morning:
https://twitter.com/#!/Mr5W/status/169721435651186689/photo/1
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Post by: Craigydonian on February 15, 2012, 12:38:43 pm
BBC News - 'Ridiculous' Llandudno fire station fire ladder removal plan http://bbc.in/yA57ig (http://bbc.in/yA57ig)

It looks like that North Wales Fire and Rescue Authority is being run by accountants and not by common sense

This story was "splashed" on the front page of last week's Weekly News with an appeal to readers to write to the chief fire officer demanding it be retained.
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Post by: Fester on February 15, 2012, 08:12:27 pm
House fire on Trinity Ave this morning:
https://twitter.com/#!/Mr5W/status/169721435651186689/photo/1

I saw the aftermath of that fire today.
A lot fire brigade staff still mooching around at noon today, when I went by.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 15, 2012, 10:37:56 pm
A friend of mine was involved with an attempted rescue there!
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Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2012, 03:16:48 pm
Just been past the Clarence Hotel, a lot of the first floor windows are open and there is newly sealed up doorway on the ground floor. Not another arson attempt, I hope, especially when they're so close to starting work.
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Post by: Cambrian on February 17, 2012, 10:30:58 am
BBC News - 'Ridiculous' Llandudno fire station fire ladder removal plan http://bbc.in/yA57ig (http://bbc.in/yA57ig)

It looks like that North Wales Fire and Rescue Authority is being run by accountants and not by common sense

This may not be far from the truth, have a look at the make up of the "Executive Group" on the Fire Service website.
Rhyl is in Denbighshire; the chair of the Authority (and chair of the Executive) is a Denbighshire Cabinet Member from Prestatyn! The vice-chair is from Anglesey.  Rhyl and Bangor are proposed to keep their aerial ladders.  This is entirely coincidental.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 17, 2012, 10:40:48 am
This may not be far from the truth, have a look at the make up of the "Executive Group" on the Fire Service website.

Rhyl is in Denbighshire; the chair of the Authority (and chair of the Executive) is a Denbighshire Cabinet Member from Prestatyn!

The vice-chair is from Anglesey. 

Rhyl and Bangor are proposed to keep their aerial ladders. 

This is entirely coincidental.


Well done for spotting this, Cambrian, and also for bringing this amazing coincidence into the public domain.  *&(
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Post by: dwsi on February 17, 2012, 05:53:38 pm
Executive Panel Membership

Councillor Sharon Frobisher, Denbighshire (Chair)
Councillor Aled Morris Jones, Anglesey (Vice-Chair)
Councillor Lewis W Davies, Anglesey
Councillor Meirick Ll Davies, Denbighshire
Councillor Brian Dunn, Flintshire
Councillor Gwilym C Evans, Denbighshire
Councillor Pat Jeffares, Wrexham
Councillor Grenville James, Flintshire
Councillor J V Owen, Anglesey
Councillor W Tudor Owen, Gwynedd
Councillor Bill Roberts, Conwy
Councillor Trevor Roberts, Gwynedd
Councillor Rodney Skelland, Wrexham
Councillor Merfyn Thomas, Conwy

http://bit.ly/x4N67h (http://bit.ly/x4N67h)

Conwy is outnumbered, only 2 members from the county on the panel
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Post by: wrex on February 17, 2012, 08:51:23 pm
The chairman was bought up in Llandudno ,she went to John Brights,but she now lives in Meliden so Rhyl will have her vote.We need some sado to count all the tall builings in all three towns,although those by the tram station must be the tallest(flats) so that has to go in our favour.If Lord Rogers is on the top floor he has no chance of being rescued by the time the ladder arrives from Rhyl.
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Post by: Llechwedd on February 18, 2012, 11:53:20 am
Why is this town so pathetic?  Everything is falling apart and we just shrug our shoulders and wait, and wait..........  Wonder if Alex Salmond has a clone who could not only shake us up but also Wales as a whole.  Complacency grrrrr.
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Post by: DaveR on February 19, 2012, 07:43:24 pm
What a lovely sunny day it was today, such a change from the gloom of recent weeks.I was able to sit outside the West Shore cafe and enjoy the sunshine and views this afternoon, whilst nursing a finger injury caused by a swan bite!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 19, 2012, 07:51:40 pm
Safer with pigeons!  ;D
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Post by: TheMedz on February 19, 2012, 08:08:48 pm
 "whilst nursing a finger injury caused by a swan bite!"

Isn't that one of those cider and Guinness drinks?
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Post by: TheMedz on February 19, 2012, 08:37:43 pm
Just spotted Huw Edwards being filmed on the Tram up the Orme. Has anyone any ideas of any forthcoming TV series he might be making, that we can look out for?

He is currently filming 'The Story Of Wales' for the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2011/06_june/23/wales.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2011/06_june/23/wales.shtml)

Series starts Monday 27th February
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Post by: Ian48 on February 21, 2012, 12:23:50 pm
http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/published/c00000207/m00002683/ai00032482/ (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/published/c00000207/m00002683/ai00032482/)$finalfocussedchangesreportamended15feb2012.doc.pdf

It seems both Nant-y-Gamar Road and Queens Road are to be recommended for housing (65 and 120 houses). This will cause a fight from a number of people, but I can't help but think that other towns (the Junction, Rhos etc) have had to accept large numbers of houses over recent years and Llandudno should accept its burden of the local housing allocation.

It's testament to the popularity and beauty of the area that people want to live here and many of those who complain live in houses that people probably complained about when they were built in the past (and many are probably from out of the area anyway). I don't advocate unrestricted development, but if we took the line that farmland should never be built on, even if it abuts an urban area, then we would never have built Liddell Park, Penrhyn Beach, Gloddaeth Woods, Maenan Road, Redrow, all within the last 30-40 years. Go back 25 years and there were huge protests about Conwy Marina and how it was an awful development that locals couldn't afford etc. But who would be without it now?

With Bodafon, I think the rest should be protected, but that acre or so behind Ysgol Gogarth would be more of an infill and be quite discreet I think.
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Post by: Cambrian on February 21, 2012, 12:37:15 pm
The trouble is that the town's boundaries will go ever closer to Llanrhos/Deganwy and the settlements will coalesce.  May not happen in our lifetimes but we need to think of the future.
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Post by: DaveR on February 21, 2012, 12:44:23 pm
How about a park/place for events along the front strip of Bodafon Fields adjoining the Prom, with houses in the fields at the rear?
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Post by: Ian48 on February 21, 2012, 01:06:29 pm
I think the front of Bodafon would be perfect for events. We could have things like Radio 1's Big Weekend or other similar things (Weston-super-Mare has big beach concerts on its front). It would help bring people in for the weekend and also help make Llandudno a more inviting place for young people.

The town does have an older image, and it would be a great marketing tool to have younger, urban people who might come and then think 'wow, this is lovely and would be perfect for a weekend or a base for a walking holiday in Snowdonia'. Maybe even classical/opera concerts a la Glyndebourne? Summer's evening, picnics, classical music overlooking the bay, it would be perfect! Even the oldies couldn't complain about that kind of event!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 21, 2012, 01:23:50 pm
How about a park/place for events along the front strip of Bodafon Fields adjoining the Prom, with houses in the fields at the rear?

Around 25 years ago, Mostyn Estates expressed an interest in building an indoor flat green bowls centre in that area on condition that they were allowed to build a housing estate on the remaining fields.

I can remember Mr Caldwell telephoning me to invite me into his boardroom to view the plans.

As for the Radio 1 Roadshow, I can see events of that nature always being staged in the new arena at Parc Eirias in future.


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Post by: Bellringer on February 21, 2012, 09:29:33 pm
House fire on Trinity Ave this morning:
https://twitter.com/#!/Mr5W/status/169721435651186689/photo/1

The Daily Post reports today that the mother has died and that one son is still critically ill.
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Post by: Bellringer on February 22, 2012, 05:12:30 pm
Re: House fire Trinity Avenue

Funeral at Holy Trinity Church on 29th February at 1.15pm followed by burial at Llanrhos Cemetery.
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Post by: DaveR on February 24, 2012, 09:42:26 am
Contractors are currently building a Bandstand in Happy Valley, just across from the Cafe.
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Post by: Fester on February 24, 2012, 11:00:10 am
I saw the work underway to build the new bandstand yesterday... and forgot to report it here.

Does anyone know what kind of events or entertainers are scheduled to use it?
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Post by: DaveR on February 24, 2012, 11:48:55 am
Llandudno Town Band, I believe.
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Post by: Cambrian on February 24, 2012, 01:17:02 pm
I think it might be something to do with the proposed Alice Trail.
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Post by: Yorkie on February 24, 2012, 02:56:36 pm
I saw the work underway to build the new bandstand yesterday... and forgot to report it here.

Does anyone know what kind of events or entertainers are scheduled to use it?

The Three Towns Musical Players !
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Post by: Nemesis on February 24, 2012, 06:13:56 pm
I can manage quite well with a comb and toilet paper--- anyone got a roll of Bronco? ;D
What can anyone else offer to play?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 24, 2012, 06:44:46 pm
I'm often on the fiddle!  ;)
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Post by: DaveR on February 24, 2012, 08:23:37 pm
The blue circle painted on the grass indicates the position of the new bandstand:
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Post by: DaveR on February 25, 2012, 03:46:55 pm
So the newly installed pedestrian crossing outside Marks & Spencer is already broken.... &shake&
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Post by: Cambrian on February 25, 2012, 05:36:49 pm
Re the bandstand in Happy Valley.  Could this be something to do with the Friends of Happy Valley ?
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Post by: DaveR on February 25, 2012, 05:58:49 pm
Re the bandstand in Happy Valley.  Could this be something to do with the Friends of Happy Valley ?
No, it's part of the Alice trail. There's also going to be a floral clock on the Prom. Let's hope they can afford some flowers to put in it....

Funding has been approved for the Alice In Wonderland Town Trail at a cost of £90,000:

The connection between Alice in Wonderland and Llandudno is well
known.  The proposal consists of a number of features which start from
the Llandudno Promenade, leading up the Happy Valley, finally ending at
the entrance of the Alice in Wonderland garden trail.  This will offer a
number of opportunities ranging from family outings, educational trips,
both formal and informal, and enhancement of the visitor experience,
which in turn plays an integral part of supporting the local economy.

The proposal consists of installing the following elements:

Mosaic panels depicting Alice in Wonderland characters designed
by  pupils from Ysgol y Gogarth will be fixed to structures in
Llandudno Bay, Llandudno Promenade and Happy Valley Park.

Five large wooden carvings depicting Alice, the Queen of Hearts,
the Mad Hatter, the White Rabbit and the Caterpillar will be
positioned around Llandudno, with some set into existing
flowerbeds and enhanced by appropriate bedding.  Each carving
will ‘signpost’ on to the next feature.

A Victorian bandstand will be built as a new feature, consisting of
balustrade panels featuring characters such as the Dodo, Playing
Card, Tweedledum and Tweedledee, the Walrus and Caterpillar.
This feature will enable opportunities for schools and local groups
to practice instrumental performances.

A floral clock will provide a major feature, depicting the White
Rabbit’s pocket watch, created on the Llandudno Promenade.  The
clock will measure approximately 2 metres, it will be designed to
generate solar energy to power the GRP timing mechanism,
ensuring the clock continues to offer the correct time all year round.   

In order that people are encouraged to follow the trail from the
promenade to the Alice in Wonderland garden trail, a series of
cement rabbit paw prints will be embedded, and small arrow signs
will lead to the next feature.
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Post by: Fester on February 25, 2012, 06:41:45 pm
I see that the roadworks keeping Gloddaeth Street closed are entering their THIRD week!

It must be taking its toll on businesses such as Nigel Roberts, M&Co and Take a Break cafe.

I just hope that the benefits are sufficiently important to merit this upheaval.
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Post by: Nemesis on February 25, 2012, 09:48:57 pm
Don't get excited-- Bod Hyfrid Road is due to be shut for52 weeks. And the notice says that they hope it won't cause any inconvenience! :-X
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Post by: Ian on February 26, 2012, 08:25:34 am
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Bod Hyfrid Road is due to be shut for52 weeks. And the notice says that they hope it won't cause any inconvenience!

Wonderful!   _))* _))* _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: Nemesis on February 26, 2012, 08:27:13 am
Typical !  ???
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Post by: DaveR on February 26, 2012, 08:51:49 am
Only the very bottom bit of Bodhyfryd Road is to be closed, adjacent to the Clarence. Pedestrian access is to be maintained, I believe.
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Post by: Nemesis on February 26, 2012, 11:42:35 am
Correct and the one way system is to be abolished for the duration.
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Post by: Fester on February 26, 2012, 04:42:38 pm
Incident on Marine Drive! Two ambulances, one police car, and the yellow helicopter winching up a person on a stretcher as I type this.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 26, 2012, 05:51:38 pm
Pics?  Details? Video?  C'mon, Fester;  no use having one of our chief reporters on the ground if we've nothing to post :-))))


 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 26, 2012, 07:07:27 pm
Injured man airlifted to hospital after Great Orme fallA man has been airlifted to hospital after falling from the Great Orme at Llandudno, Conwy.

Holyhead coastguards scrambled cliff rescuers and an inshore RNLI lifeboat from Llandudno at about 16:00 GMT.

The man was discovered to have fallen about 30ft (nine metres) on the landward side of the Orme, and an RAF Sea King helicopter was called.

Coastguards said the man was airlifted on a spinal board to Ysbyty Gwynedd, Bangor.

His condition is unknown.
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Post by: Fester on February 26, 2012, 09:25:23 pm
Pics?  Details? Video?  C'mon, Fester;  no use having one of our chief reporters on the ground if we've nothing to post :-))))


 ;D ;D ;D

Sorry Ian.... I am just getting the hang of Dave's 'hand me down' iphone.
It took me half an hour to post the little bit that I did!
Pics? Vids?  Are you saying my iphone can do such things?
Maybe Dave is leaving those advanced lessons until next week?  :laugh:
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Post by: SDQ on February 26, 2012, 10:20:43 pm
An iPhone Fester??? 
Welcome to the digital age!
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Post by: Fester on February 26, 2012, 11:23:35 pm
Er, Yeah....SDQ, 

Its a very impressive piece of technology, and has many bells and whistles.

Sadly though, it is rubbish at making and receiving phonecalls, which old fashioned though it may seem, I quite like to do with telephones.
The signal in my house is zero, whereas in the past my previous phone had no problems.

I'll give it a week, and review the situation then..... at the moment I am leaning towards going back to my old phone.  ?{}?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 26, 2012, 11:27:17 pm
Ideal for me as I detest making phone calls, it's very rare that I ever answer a phone!  :rage:  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 27, 2012, 03:37:43 pm
Three fire engines and a police van just turned up at Clarence Hotel, no sign of any fire though.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 28, 2012, 06:18:18 pm
It's just been on the local ITV news that CCBC are now objecting to UPVC windows in Home Cooking, the owner said ' they have been there for 30 years!'. seems that they are looking at all hotels etc on a case by case basis.  I would have thought they have more important things to sort out!  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on February 28, 2012, 06:43:20 pm
Maybe someone has a "connection" with a wooden replacement window company!   NO!  It couldn't be that!    WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on February 28, 2012, 07:37:58 pm
I expect others saw John Lawson Reay on Wales Today putting forward the view that the Conservation Area should be protected. When these properties are bought, I would have thought a reputable solicitor would point out to the buyers that consent is needed for certain activities - after all even the tint of paint of regulated on the prom!
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Post by: dwsi on February 28, 2012, 07:42:08 pm
Pics?  Details? Video?  C'mon, Fester;  no use having one of our chief reporters on the ground if we've nothing to post :-))))


 ;D ;D ;D

Climber rescued by Llandudno Coastguard & Rescue 122 - YouTube http://bit.ly/zW91U7 (http://bit.ly/zW91U7)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 28, 2012, 10:32:00 pm
Maybe someone has a "connection" with a wooden replacement window company!   NO!  It couldn't be that!    WWW

Yorkie, are you suggesting that someone, who has had to replace his/her windows recently, maybe insisting that everyone else must now replace theirs as well?

Cambrian is also correct with his/her observation.

Perhaps a few solicitors may need to start checking their professional indemnity insurance policies if they overlooked advising clients correctly with their purchases over the past 30+ years.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2012, 11:09:39 pm
The policy change follows a case at 1 Curzon Road, I believe. The owner of a block of flats installed upvc windows without consent and CCBC requested he replace them with hardwood, as it was in a conservation area. He appealed to WG and they upheld the Council's decision. As such, CCBC now have the mandate to carry out similar enforcement actions in Conservation areas.

I think a compromise would be the best way forward. No more upvc windows to be installed and a requirement that owners replace any existing upvc windows with hardwood when the time comes to replace them.
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Post by: Cambrian on February 29, 2012, 06:59:50 am
I also remember seeing stories in the press about a similar appeal for a property (restaurant ?) in Upper Mostyn St which was dismissed too.  Given the concerns about noise etc, does anyone know if wooden double glazed units are available and how they compare price wise with UPVC ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 29, 2012, 08:25:57 am
Yes they are! At a horrendous price.
We are a grade 2 listed building, built in the late 1840s and the windows are original. We cannot afford the cost of Heritage windows and can't do anything else, so they will have to stay put. Even some of the glass is original--very thin with wobbly bits in it !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 29, 2012, 08:31:00 am
What is the precise objection to PVC? The current stuff is indistinguishable from wood from any distance, cheaper and presumably better for the environment.
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Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 08:58:13 am
http://www.victoriansociety.org.uk/advice/windows/ (http://www.victoriansociety.org.uk/advice/windows/)
http://www.southlakeswindows.com/sash-windows-in-conservation-areas.html (http://www.southlakeswindows.com/sash-windows-in-conservation-areas.html)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8114881.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8114881.stm)

When you own a Victorian property, I think you have a duty to maintain it correctly. It all adds to the value of the property, of course.  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 29, 2012, 10:30:52 am
Hmmm. .I grew up in a house with original sash windows.  They were draughty, inefficient and hard to open when the cords rotted.

As far as I can see, so long as the PVC replacements are the same with regard to appearance, they should be permitted.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 10:43:27 am
That's the problem, Ian, they don't look the same. You can get upvc designs that looks very similar to the original wood but most people have been getting the cheapest upvc that looks tatty and cheap.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 29, 2012, 10:47:36 am
13 years ago we applied to change ours. Mostyn Estates had no objection, but CCBC told us that if we put them in we would be MADE to remove them. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on February 29, 2012, 11:35:53 am
I think that some onus should be placed on the replacement window sellers to understand what local regulations exist and advise potential customers accordingly!    After all they are supposed to be the "experts".

I wonder if there is a case for mis-selling as with PPI and other matters?   WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 12:57:34 pm
That's a good point, Yorkie.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 29, 2012, 01:37:56 pm
FYI, the mis-selling of PPI has been (and still is) regulated by the Financial Services Authority.

I am not an expert in the selling (or an alleged mis-selling of double glazing) but I am guessing the most protection an individual can expect is with some form of voluntary code of conduct for the industry.

If I am incorrect then I am sure Yorkie, or another expert, will soon correct me.
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Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 01:47:22 pm
Yorkie, or another expert
:laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on February 29, 2012, 05:15:05 pm

If I am incorrect then I am sure Yorkie, or another expert, will soon correct me.

I would hate to bore you with all the Rules, Regulations, Statutes and Laws of Contract that are set to trap any unwary charlatan!    _))*

But, on the other hand, if you have the time to spare, it is all available on the Internet!   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on February 29, 2012, 07:17:40 pm
Llandudno hospital is currently cordoned off by police, 5 fire engines are on the scene
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Post by: Fester on February 29, 2012, 07:18:42 pm
Llandudno hospital is currently cordoned off by police, 5 fire engines are on the scene

Are you close by, Forum roving reporter?
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Post by: dwsi on February 29, 2012, 07:21:35 pm
nope, but All casualty is cordoned off, fire hoses going in and patients all stood outside in blankets.
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Post by: Fester on February 29, 2012, 07:23:36 pm
Oooh, it will be a bloody fire alarm...

It happened to me once, at a swimming pool, in JANUARY!!! 
Stood there in bare feet, outside, wrapped in a tin foil sheet.   Not at all funny.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 07:25:56 pm
There wouldn't be fire hoses going in if there wasn't a fire, Fester!
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Post by: Fester on February 29, 2012, 07:32:35 pm
You'll see, it will be nothing.  A waste of time and money.

Getting all those firemen out of bed, or out of the gym for nothing.
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Post by: dwsi on February 29, 2012, 07:37:20 pm
my reporter on the ground says it's chemical related
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Post by: DaveR on February 29, 2012, 07:57:27 pm
my reporter on the ground
Fantastic!
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Post by: Paddy on February 29, 2012, 08:14:28 pm
Someone has knocked over a container of acid. I don't need to rove, the news came to me whilst I was having a pint in the golf club.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 29, 2012, 08:33:48 pm
There you go, like I said...... twenty seven firemen, and £15,000 of public money spent when all was needed was a mop and bucket.

The acid probably killed some MRSA bugs, and did us all a favour!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on February 29, 2012, 10:35:20 pm
Fester, I've just hear on the news that it was actually cleaning fluid that was spilled! Isn't that what you're supposed to do with cleaning fluid?
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Post by: Bellringer on February 29, 2012, 10:46:08 pm
Fester, I've just hear on the news that it was actually cleaning fluid that was spilled! Isn't that what you're supposed to do with cleaning fluid?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-17215178 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-17215178)
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Post by: Paddy on February 29, 2012, 10:54:36 pm
Thanks Bellringer.
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Post by: Fester on February 29, 2012, 11:10:58 pm
I expect that all those Firemen will now be tucked up in bed..... back at the station!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 01, 2012, 07:56:34 am
Llandudno hospital is currently cordoned off by police, 5 fire engines are on the scene

It appears there may have only been 2 fire engines at the scene.

In today's NWWN, it is revealed that the Asst Fire Chief, Paul Claydon, has agreed to attend a meeting of Llandudno Town Councillors to discuss the issue of plans to axe our local aerial ladder.

After yesterday's incident at Llandudno Hospital, someone ought to also enquire why the specialist environmental protection unit is based in Wrexham when Llandudno Fire Station is far more central for its use in North Wales.
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Post by: DaveR on March 01, 2012, 11:03:59 am
01/03/12 - Conservation Areas
The Council has a duty to preserve listed buildings and designated conservation areas.

The County Borough possesses a wealth of heritage assets and conservation areas such as Conwy and Llandudno are not only designations of outstanding importance in UK terms they also generate significant money into the regional economy.  A vital component in the attraction of these areas (and others) is their special and authentic surviving architectural and historic interest.

The Council has recently approved a conservation area management strategy that addresses issues such as the influx of modern or inappropriate alterations to designated historic buildings. Some historic commercial buildings have had PVCu windows and doors installed without consent. The results of these changes have diluted the special character of historic areas and damaged listed buildings. As a first step the Council is in the process of notifying owners/occupiers of such buildings, and areas, of the implications of the designations. The Council will also be undertaking systematic surveys of conservation areas to assess the nature and extent of the introduction of inappropriate alterations. The Council has also won several appeals in the last two years that reflect support for the Council's stance in resisting the installation of modern and insensitive windows and doors etc in historic areas and buildings. The Council is keen to establish a clear indication of the special requirements that accompany designations.

Properties that are commercial, namely those in use as flats, apartments or in mixed-use, for instance shops and offices/flats must apply for planning permission, or if applicable, Listed Building Consent for installing modern and PVCu windows if these differ from the previous features. Many owners have not been checking with the planning authority prior to carrying out works.

The situation regarding future enforcement action against historic properties that have been the subject of unauthorised changes will be considered individually on the circumstances of the particular case. In the case of listed buildings, the character established by authentic historic fabric and features is of particular and protected importance. Unauthorised changes represent a criminal offence and there is no immunity period in respect of enforcement.

The Council has approved the approach contained in the strategy in order to minimise further harm occurring within historic areas/buildings. The approach will involve engaging with local stakeholders and owners. If strategic action is not implemented the end result will be the review of many conservation areas and this could then result in de-designations, which would place the unique character and attractiveness of our heritage assets under threat.

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=142&doc=30826&Language=1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=142&doc=30826&Language=1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on March 01, 2012, 01:22:01 pm
Just like to say how nice the crocus are on the verges between Maesdu bridge and Bryn Gosal Road, and on the Weekly News roundabout.
They really are quite a show.
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Post by: Blongb on March 06, 2012, 08:01:35 pm
01/03/12 - Conservation Areas
The Council has a duty to preserve listed buildings and designated conservation areas.

Some historic commercial buildings have had PVCu windows and doors installed without consent.

Properties that are commercial, namely those in use as flats, apartments or in mixed-use, for instance shops and offices/flats must apply for planning permission, or if applicable, Listed Building Consent for installing modern and PVCu windows if these differ from the previous features. Many owners have not been checking with the planning authority prior to carrying out works.

The situation regarding future enforcement action against historic properties that have been the subject of unauthorised changes will be considered individually on the circumstances of the particular case. In the case of listed buildings, the character established by authentic historic fabric and features is of particular and protected importance. Unauthorised changes represent a criminal offence and there is no immunity period in respect of enforcement.

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=142&doc=30826&Language=1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=142&doc=30826&Language=1&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

I've had an e-mail from Guto Bebb M.P. on the subject of UPVC windows which I'll share with you

Guto Bebb MP

 Public Meeting

Saturday 24th March 2012 at Imperial Hotel, Promenade, Llandudno

10.30am – 12noon.

Guto is concerned at the attitude of Conwy County Borough Council with regard to replacement windows in Listed Buildings and the wider Conservation Area.  He would like to hear your concerns and views.

Constituency Office/Swyddfa Etholaeth – 1 Ashdown House.  Riverside Business Park.  Conwy.  LL32 8UB

For details please phone/am fanylion ffoniwch: 01492 583094.   Or e-mail/neu ebost: office@gutobebbmp.co.uk

 
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Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2012, 11:59:41 am
Lots of demolition and clearance work going on at the back of the Clarence Hotel today. Apparently, the former garage block can't be demolished yet as CCBC have still not processed paperwork...  &shake&

Thanks to our reporter on the ground for this photo:
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Post by: dwsi on March 07, 2012, 12:47:13 pm
nice to see someone else who has reporters on the ground  D)  _))*
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Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2012, 01:16:11 pm
nice to see someone else who has reporters on the ground  D)  _))*
:laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2012, 06:46:42 pm
The Alexandra Hotel is having the missing 'O' from its original Victorian wooden sign replaced on Sunday morning, along with the damaged window in the tower. How many of you had noticed it was missing?
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Post by: Paddy on March 09, 2012, 06:54:44 pm
I began my illustrious drinking career at The Alex many years ago but I've never noticed.
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Post by: TheMedz on March 10, 2012, 07:53:02 pm
With the welcoming sight today of Mike driving up and down the Orme to the pitch and putt course  it must mean spring cannot be too far away. Welcome back mike.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 14, 2012, 08:30:40 am
This was on the Cabinet agenda yesterday:

20. Disposal of Former Youth Club at Trinity Avenue, Llandudno
View the reasons why item 20. is restricted
View the background to item 20.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 14, 2012, 08:34:28 am
Clouds of dust billowing out of the windows at the Clarence yesterday afternoon. :o
Cars and everything else covered, we could taste it in the air as late as 10.15 last night.
I imagine that this will provoke another bout of grumbling.
Omelettes and eggs come to mind again ! :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 15, 2012, 07:50:21 pm
A drilling rig has been brought into Arvon Ave to test ground levels at the Clarence Hotel, after builders found that the subsidence problem was far worse than anticipated.
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Post by: Blongb on March 15, 2012, 11:23:07 pm
A drilling rig has been brought into Arvon Ave to test ground levels at the Clarence Hotel, after builders found that the subsidence problem was far worse than anticipated.
I wonder if they will turn out to be as bad as the ones at the Pen Morfa (Gogarth Abbey)  and the whole building will have to come down   WWW
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Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 06:59:33 am
I suspect the Arvon Ave frontage is going to need substantial underpinning at best. At worst, that part of the building may need to be rebuilt.
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Post by: wrex on March 16, 2012, 08:00:43 am
Who is going to tell Andrew Roberts that the project may take a little bit longer than 1 year.oops
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Post by: Yorkie on March 16, 2012, 08:52:52 am
A drilling rig has been brought into Arvon Ave to test ground levels at the Clarence Hotel, after builders found that the subsidence problem was far worse than anticipated.
I wonder if they will turn out to be as bad as the ones at the Pen Morfa (Gogarth Abbey)  and the whole building will have to come down   WWW

Maybe the developers are hoping so!   However, the subsidence problems at the Clarence are not new and the poor ground conditions have been known about for over 15 years to my knowledge.   WWW
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Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 09:23:39 am
I remember John Oddy talking about the subsidence problems several years ago. One look at the photo of the rig I posted shows a substantial movement in that part of the building above the archway.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 16, 2012, 09:55:37 am
I've often wondered about the ground that Llandudno is built on, I'm assuming mainly sand? Have another look at the picture I posted here the other day of Cafe Culture!
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Post by: Nemesis on March 16, 2012, 10:06:26 am
I'm sure I read somewhere a long time ago that there was a mine adit in the area, but apparently it wasn't mapped so obviously it didn't exist.  :oLooking at the clay laden water which is surrounding the site this morning, I hate to think what they have found.
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Post by: Fester on March 16, 2012, 07:40:30 pm
I've often wondered about the ground that Llandudno is built on, I'm assuming mainly sand? Have another look at the picture I posted here the other day of Cafe Culture!

Many of the buildings we have in Llandudno were meant to be temporary... the Victorians thought that at least.
So some were built directly onto the sand, or at best had very shallow footings.

None of them would pass today's stricter building controls.
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Post by: Blongb on March 16, 2012, 08:40:08 pm
My Cottage in Somerset Street was built like that. I was looking at the shingle under the floorboards just this afternoon. I'm not too worried about the house shifting though as the walls are two feet thick and built out of Penmaenmawr Black Granite. If thats classed as temporary good on my Victorian builders  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 09:41:39 pm
The Victorians were very good builders. Because they had no concept of stress tolerances, they tended to over engineer everything (e.g. piers, bridges) massively, which accounted for their longevity in comparison with modern constructions.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2012, 09:42:27 pm
My Cottage in Somerset Street was built like that. I was looking at the shingle under the floorboards just this afternoon. I'm not too worried about the house shifting though as the walls are two feet thick and built out of Penmaenmawr Black Granite. If thats classed as temporary good on my Victorian builders  $walesflag$
Where you are now, you must be built straight onto the rock, I'd have thought?
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Post by: Fester on March 16, 2012, 11:24:46 pm
Dave, BlongB still owns the cottage in Somerset St, I believe, and THAT is where he was looking at the shale...

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Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2012, 04:46:44 pm
Readers may recall that I mentioned a week or two back about the Alexandra Hotel putting back in the missing 'O' in their HOTEL sign. Well, today was the day that an access platform was hired to do the job. Unfortunately for the operators, the access platform broke down shortly after they had replaced the 'O', leaving them stranded in mid air for quite a while! I happened to be passing and grabbed a few photos:
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Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2012, 05:08:41 pm
Following the post made the other day about damage to the Camera Obscura, I made the effort to go up and take a look. The roof has been quite badly damaged by metal thieves, sadly. I have notified CCBC.
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Post by: dwsi on March 18, 2012, 08:42:21 pm
via Llandudno Lifeboat Crew on Facebook

Llandudno Lifeboat is being launched tomorrow 21/03/12 at 1800 Llandudno North shore slip way next to the pier. Why not come down and see how we operate all our machinery. Especially now that we have started to have day light hours
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 18, 2012, 08:45:44 pm
Tomorrow is the 19/03/12.

Do you know if it happening tomorrow or Wednesday evening?
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Post by: dwsi on March 18, 2012, 09:57:57 pm
They've now changed the date to tomorrow the 19th
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 19, 2012, 08:01:36 am
Thanks.

It looks as if today will be a lovely day so I may pop down later.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 19, 2012, 06:16:35 pm
We went down but as it was only the inshore lifeboat being launched we decided not to stay as it got quite cold on the prom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 19, 2012, 07:58:27 pm
I bumped into DaveR and Fester whilst out and about this afternoon. Fester, I forgot to mention that a pack of frozen peas put on your back will some times work better than a hot pack. If it's not any better in a couple of days, don't suffer give Theresa Morgans BSc(Ost) DO RGN a try, Coniston Clinic, 30 Mostyn Avenue, 01492 871912 Hope your back is better soon.
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Post by: Fester on March 19, 2012, 08:03:06 pm
Thanks BlongB, and it was nice to see you again.

I shall bear your recommendation in mind, but first I shall use this...

http://llandudno-emporium.com/onlinestore/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=95 (http://llandudno-emporium.com/onlinestore/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=95)

Its available from a very friendly bald chap on the pier,  ;) ;)
It works very well for old arthritic knees... and I will be popping some on my back after my bath tonight.


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Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2012, 08:11:08 pm
I bumped into DaveR and Fester whilst out and about this afternoon. Fester, I forgot to mention that a pack of frozen peas put on your back will some times work better than a hot pack. If it's not any better in a couple of days, don't suffer give Theresa Morgans BSc(Ost) DO RGN a try, Coniston Clinic, 30 Mostyn Avenue, 01492 871912 Hope your back is better soon.

You won't find anyone better than Theresa. She is excellent.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 19, 2012, 09:33:18 pm
Thanks BlongB, and it was nice to see you again.

I shall bear your recommendation in mind, but first I shall use this...

http://llandudno-emporium.com/onlinestore/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=95 (http://llandudno-emporium.com/onlinestore/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=95)
..and just £5.99 too!  $good$

Always a pleasure to see Mr. Blongb. I think we saw Bri Roberts & wife passing Caffe Nero as well?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 19, 2012, 09:59:10 pm
Thanks BlongB, and it was nice to see you again.

I shall bear your recommendation in mind, but first I shall use this...

http://llandudno-emporium.com/onlinestore/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=95 (http://llandudno-emporium.com/onlinestore/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=95)
..and just £5.99 too!  $good$

Always a pleasure to see Mr. Blongb. I think we saw Bri Roberts & wife passing Caffe Nero as well?

Yes.. it was Mr and Mrs Bri Roberts.... then we saw BlongB... then we saw Mrs Yorkie a few seconds later.
Forum members in abundance in town today!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 22, 2012, 08:20:16 pm
Following the post made the other day about damage to the Camera Obscura, I made the effort to go up and take a look. The roof has been quite badly damaged by metal thieves, sadly. I have notified CCBC.
News article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-17437503 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-17437503)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 23, 2012, 01:02:34 pm
Serious house fire in Parc Bodnant this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on March 24, 2012, 12:01:36 pm
Good to see that at long last someone has had the nouse to start clearing the "artificial" beach off the steps on the west shore.  Mind you it only appears to be four steps but that's better than before.  I bet if they were to put it back as it was in the 50's/60's and 70's it would cut down on the amount of sand being blown about.

Funny to see swans on the beach and lots of people taking photos.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on March 24, 2012, 06:02:01 pm
BBC News - Llandudno hotel bosses meet MP over UPVC windows row http://bbc.in/GL70t3 (http://bbc.in/GL70t3)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on March 25, 2012, 09:52:40 pm
 Yesterday I spotted something in Mostyn Street I have never seen anywhere in the U.K. never mind Llandudno.   But every few yards in Dublin city.
  No, nothing to do with Guinness. Its someone standing in a public place holding a pole with a signpost pointing to a destination.
  The place?  Sainsburys.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2012, 09:59:47 pm
Just a promotional gimmick for the first few days of their opening. I've seen similar things with Dominos Pizza in Bangor, they have men standing at road junctions with placards.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 26, 2012, 10:48:47 am
Yesterday I spotted something in Mostyn Street I have never seen anywhere in the U.K. never mind Llandudno.   But every few yards in Dublin city.
  No, nothing to do with Guinness. Its someone standing in a public place holding a pole with a signpost pointing to a destination.
  The place?  Sainsburys.
Reminded me of the poor souls who stand in Asda with a pointing hand on a pole indicating which till has the shortest queue.
I think I should feel a bit daft!-- Although I have probably looked dafter !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2012, 12:34:00 pm
Llandudno Lifeboat Crew
ILB Shout: Man in water holding onto pier structure. On scene, got man on board & went to slipway where ambulance took over care of casualty.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on March 26, 2012, 03:02:32 pm
Walked round the Orme yesterday it was such a nice morning and absolutely packed I've never seen so many people round there. The pier looked busy too hope Fester did well.

At last the railings behind the Goose have been painted very smart.

Usual problem of people driving down Happy Valley Road and then trying to turn round because they don't want to pay the Marine Drive toll.  Also noticed lots of cars zooming up past the Colonade.  It's so dangerous once they get in to the Happy Valley as there are so many little children running round.  Why they don't put notices at the bottom of Church Walks/ prom. saying toll road or something I don't know.  perhaps there has to be an accident first?

Also noticed at the entrance to Llys Helig Drive a new slate notice - The Old Abbey and Abbey Lodge and then underneath in red, 24 hour CCTV surveilance.  Why?  What is going on in that home?  Also that new house instead of the lodge which is awful looks half empty.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2012, 08:06:20 am
Workmen were boarding up the front of the Clarence Hotel yesterday afternoon. Has work stopped because CCBC have still not provided the necessary paperwork for the main job to start?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2012, 08:10:58 am
Why they don't put notices at the bottom of Church Walks/ prom. saying toll road or something I don't know.  perhaps there has to be an accident first?
I've seen direction signs on Mostyn Street saying it is a 'Toll Scenic Drive'.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on March 28, 2012, 10:15:58 am
Workmen were boarding up the front of the Clarence Hotel yesterday afternoon. Has work stopped because CCBC have still not provided the necessary paperwork for the main job to start?

I am a really reasonable, balanced person, but this enrages me so much. The mind absolutely boggles at why this has not be processed quicker. Does the planning department want another Tudno Castle? These companies are spending money in Llandudno, which they can spend easily enough elsewhere and they aren't charities. I'd probably think 'sod the lot of you!'.

I hope this gets sorted quickly! It's a shame councillors these days aren't allowed to read the riot act with officers. If they were to they would probably be reported to the Ombudsman and be made to undergo some ritual humiliation and be barred from holding public office for life. Either way, someone needs to get their a*** seriously into gear!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 28, 2012, 11:37:33 am
Bodhyfrid road has been re-opened to traffic this morning.
Looks like CCCB has struck again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2012, 11:40:25 am
I have asked our AM, Janet Finch-Saunders, to take a look at this matter; it is not acceptable for major investors in the town to be treated like this.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 28, 2012, 11:42:17 am
Good for you.--- I should have a go at the local councilllors as well! >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 28, 2012, 12:37:53 pm
Nothing CCBC does should suprise any of us,they seem to delite in being a......es.The funfair on the prom is for a photo shoot,to do with the pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2012, 12:41:09 pm
Do you know if they are going to be there all day, Wrex?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 28, 2012, 01:27:04 pm
Until tomoz i think Dave,no use Llechwedd or Yorkie going down for a ride as they will not open,BUT they will be back for the Extravaganza. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 28, 2012, 03:54:16 pm
Wondered what was going on!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on March 28, 2012, 05:40:51 pm
Old Abbey now owned by Jews.

Perhaps they want to keep an eye on the West Shore Arabs on the CCTV.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 28, 2012, 06:34:22 pm
Old Abbey now owned by Jews.

Perhaps they want to keep an eye on the West Shore Arabs on the CCTV.   

Shalom!   Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 28, 2012, 07:56:54 pm
Clarence hotel today - boarded up and deserted. Well done CCBC for ensuring we have this eyesore for a little longer!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 29, 2012, 07:32:43 am
Quote
Well done CCBC for ensuring we have this eyesore for a little longer!

I presume it is CCBC and not simply that the folk drilling the hole have found something nasty and have gone away to report that the rebuild is probably unviable?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 29, 2012, 08:31:48 am
The contractors say they can do more until the paperwork from CCBC comes though. The crux is that they need permission to demolish the detached garage at the rear - until that is demolished, they cannot access the rear of the hotel to begin work properly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 30, 2012, 11:03:16 am
Good to see someone doing something positive for the town:
http://www.daffodilcapitalofwales.co.uk/ (http://www.daffodilcapitalofwales.co.uk/)

 $good$

 $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 31, 2012, 12:09:45 pm
North Wales fire authority are sneaking the ladder out of Llandudno in the morning 7am.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 01, 2012, 06:56:32 pm
LIFEBOAT CALLED TO LITTLE ORME

Llandudno RNLI inshore lifeboat was called out at 4.40 p.m. today (Sunday 1/4) to go to the assistance of three youths, two of whom were in solo kayaks with the third on a stand-up paddle board.

All three had experienced difficulties in the choppy sea conditions off the Little Orme's Angel Bay; the youth on the board had fallen off it into the sea a number of times and as a result was cold, wet and tiring.

Launching from tthe north shore at 4.51 p.m. the lifeboat reached the scene minutes later just as the youths had managed to come ashore to safety at Penrhyn beach.

The RNLI crew ascertained that none of the three needed medical attention and remained with them until Llandudno coastguard arrived to give the trio some sea safety advice. The lifeboat then returned to Llandudno for recovery.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 02, 2012, 08:36:56 am
Anyone know what had happened at the West Shore end of Goddaeth yesterday afternoon, there seemed to be alot of flashing blue and yellow lights on there  ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 02, 2012, 11:33:46 pm
North Wales fire authority are sneaking the ladder out of Llandudno in the morning 7am.

What???  Why so sudden?

I believed that the decision was taken not to REPLACE the ladder after reaching the end of its useful life?, not to lose it immediately.
Why did it suddenly become obsolete from one day to the next??   $angry$ $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on April 03, 2012, 01:05:13 am
I think they are withdrawing an older one in Wrexham & replacing it with the newer Llandudno one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 03, 2012, 09:28:24 am
Then I am truly outraged.

So we have a perfectly good appliance, someone else's is clapped out... and we lose ours?

That is entirely different to the scenario that I understood... i.e. Llandudno wouldn't get another when ours became unserviceable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 03, 2012, 09:40:12 am
Fester, that is correct and here is the evidence:

http://www.nwales-fireservice.org.uk/page.asp?page=MEETINGS&articledate=32012 (http://www.nwales-fireservice.org.uk/page.asp?page=MEETINGS&articledate=32012)

Location of Aerial Ladder Platforms
FRA Appendix 1
FRA Appendix 1 (powerpoint presentation)
FRA Appendix 2
FRA Appendix 3







Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on April 03, 2012, 09:49:38 am
From memory the powers that be tried to get rid of the Llandudno ALP around 2007 when the one there then was becoming time-expired.  Local efforts by the FBU, councillors etc ensured they ordered a new one which is the one which left on Sunday so it was only about 4 years old.

If decisions are being taken on the sort of parochialism we have seen, perhaps Fire Authorities should be abolished and an all-Wales Fire Service created (provided its HQ is north of Merthyr of course!)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 03, 2012, 10:27:48 am
The evidence is clear, we have been lied to.

If I wasn't so jaundiced and cynical about local politicians (or any politicians) whether AM's or councillors, I would contact them about this.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2012, 10:17:28 am
Very rough on the Prom this morning:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 04, 2012, 10:42:05 am
On the evidence of your pictures Dave, it looks like one of the two brand new Welsh flags has blown away from the Pier slide.

I'm off to shelter in Caffe Nero for the remainder of the morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on April 04, 2012, 10:53:55 am
Impressive pictures David.

What a difference a day or two makes from quiet weather with sunshine to the last 24 hours or so with heavy rain and winds, and it's cold with it too.
I think Fester has the best idea.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2012, 10:56:27 am
On the evidence of your pictures Dave, it looks like one of the two brand new Welsh flags has blown away from the Pier slide.
The other flag is hanging by a thread.  $walesflag$

Several of the glass globes on the lights leading up to Happy Valley have either blown off completely or are hanging off.

There is also a green wheelie bin in the middle of the road outside Broadway Boulevard.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 04, 2012, 11:01:47 am
Asda car park was nigh on impassable this morning, people were being blown all over the place with their trolleys.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2012, 05:15:33 pm
Several of the glass globes on the lights leading up to Happy Valley have either blown off completely or are hanging off.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on April 04, 2012, 05:35:57 pm
Or vandalized ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2012, 06:06:54 pm
I'm pretty sure it was storm damage. Some of the other globes were intact but just hanging down or out of position. I've reported the damage to CCBC.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 07, 2012, 09:14:22 am
A little damp
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on April 09, 2012, 09:34:52 am
Anything happened today I feel like a day out but the weather give me the hump. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 09, 2012, 01:19:34 pm
Anything happened today I feel like a day out but the weather give me the hump. Any suggestions?


Take a couple of sleeping pills and wait until Tuesday!    Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2012, 05:30:37 pm
Who else has noticed these supposed 'Rag Mag' sellers in Llandudno. They are usually to be found on the corner outside Caffe Nero, working in a team of about 4 or 5. Thing is, I don't believe they are actually students and I don't believe the mag they are selling has anything to do with any University Rag Week.

These women are quite aggressive in their selling techniques but I've not seen any sign of Police or PCSOs tackling them or checking their credentials.

I think they are part of this lot:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8429288.Warning_over_York____Rag_Mag____vendors/ (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8429288.Warning_over_York____Rag_Mag____vendors/)

Just say NO is my advice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on April 14, 2012, 06:23:14 pm
soft lad me got done yesterday ,good job i was tight 50p  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 14, 2012, 06:32:46 pm
Against my better judgement, my missus purchased one this afternoon from one young girl claiming to be a student for £2, although it has £3 on the front cover.

Since getting home, my curiosity got the better of me and this is what it says inside the front page confirming it is a scam.

Thank you for buying this magazine.

Although students ‘Rag Week’ is normally in February/March this gag Mag is sold throughout the year.

There are 6-8 editions per year, produced as an initiative to give students, ex-students and the unemployed, the opportunity to earn money, by selling of it.

This particular edition was compiled and printed by scholars and top wits at the university of Manchester, Leeds Sheffiled, Cardiff, Swansea, Bangor, London and Glasgow.

Contributions also from Bristol, Essex, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Durham, Plymouth and Nottingham.

If you are of a delicate disposition or easily offended, then do not turn the page, this may contain adult humour and artwork. Not for sale to minors.

A percentage of the cover price is retained by the vendor.

Periodical magazines can be sold exempt from licence quoting the Miscellaneous Street Trading Provisions Act Schedule 4 Paragraph 3a.

The punctuation is as it is in the mag.

It does seem to be a scam as there is no mention of any of the proceeds being passed on to any of the universities mentioned.

I guess this could be another version of the ‘Big Issue’ where individuals purchase a supply of mags, come into town to flog them and go home at the end of the day with bulging pockets.

BTW, this issue is undated and could easily be the same issue quoted by DaveR and sold in York during October 2010.







Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2012, 11:47:10 pm
This topic should really be under the heading 'Scum'

This GANG of women are extracting money under false pretences, and are no doubt linked to more organised crime in some way.

It is obvious by looking at them that they have never been to any university, nor could they spell it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 15, 2012, 06:43:46 am
One of the reasons that we now rarely walk about in Mostyn Street when it's busy, what with those awful big issue sellers, drunks etc  $angry$. I found it very pleasant on Christmas day when it was very quiet, bliss!   D)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 15, 2012, 08:37:26 am
"Council issues warning about Gag Mags (2009)

Lichfield District Council has been tipped off about people who are selling 'Gag Mags' in the city centre.

Gag Mags are magazines produced to resemble Rag Mags. They deliberately trade off the fact that they look like magazines that are created by students to raise money for charity.

Councillor Ian Pritchard, Cabinet Member for Housing, Health and Environmental Protection at Lichfield District Council, said: "We would urge shoppers not to buy one of these so called Gag Mags as they are not connected to a university and the funds raised do not go towards charitable endeavours, but instead go directly to the sellers. You can tell if the person selling a Rag Mag is who they say they are by checking their student ID and their collection permit. If you spot anyone selling Gag Mags in the district, please report them to Staffordshire Trading Standards on 01785 330356." "
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 15, 2012, 08:44:52 am
I bought one yesterday ( £3) on my way to Holy Trinity for the Bungee jump which was cancelled. A right load of rubbish, most of the content was so old I had heard the jokes at school.
What got me upon reading same was the bit inside the front cover--- a percentage of the cover price is retained by the vendor--
As you say Bri, the content is undated and could have been printed years ago.
Caveat emptor!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2012, 08:53:39 am
Good article about the con here.

http://forgetoday.com/news/gag-mag-not-a-barrel-of-laughs/ (http://forgetoday.com/news/gag-mag-not-a-barrel-of-laughs/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 15, 2012, 08:59:33 am
Have added a comment to that.
Shut down indeed. :rage:
Wish I hadn't been in a benevolent mood--- I'm not usually ! :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 15, 2012, 10:55:21 am
Hang on to those Rag Mags - In 50 years time when everyone else has cast them out with the recycling, _))*  they will be the only ones in existence and probably worth a fortune!   L0L

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on April 16, 2012, 11:48:17 am
Oh heck I was taken in by a woman outside "Burtons".  I asked if she was from Bangor Uni. as I usually support them.  She told me she had a scholarship to study design at a college in Preston.  Ho hum ever been had!

Seems to me anyone can rock up in Llandudno and play musical instrument badly or beg etc. and there's no one to chase them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 16, 2012, 08:56:41 pm
No disrespect intended to any Forum member who parted with their hard-earned,... but one look at these reprobates should have been enough to realise that they were not students.

Firstly they were not Chinese, and secondly they looked more like prostitutes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 16, 2012, 09:03:26 pm
 Im off to have a look,i take it they are still on the street corner in the dark.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on April 17, 2012, 07:43:27 am
No disrespect intended to any Forum member who parted with their hard-earned,... but one look at these reprobates should have been enough to realise that they were not students.

Firstly they were not Chinese, and secondly they looked more like prostitutes.

Are prostitutes always that old ? Students aren't usually.  ;D ;D ;D

We ignored them as we walked past despite one of them pleading us to buy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 17, 2012, 06:45:20 pm
The County Parking Wardens could be deployed in ridding the town of these nuisances.   Once upon a time we did have Bye-Laws Inspectors to deal with such matters.

 :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 18, 2012, 12:15:18 pm
The weather is very evil.  WWW

I will only leave my cosy house if there is beer  Z** and steak   $dins$ involved.   Dave???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on April 18, 2012, 08:42:12 pm
I can only assume that somebody met your demands as Mrs Medz saw you on the bus down into town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 18, 2012, 08:48:36 pm
Indeed!
The bus fare has gone UP yet again.... a 50% increase in the last 2 years.  Its a scandal.
In fact there was only me on the bus who WAS paying!

I debated this with the driver, who told me he worked an eight hour shift on Sunday... (around LLanrwst), his bus was quite full most of the time, but his total takings amounted to £13.00.  Its totally unsustainable.

Beer and Steak was indeed consumed this evening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 18, 2012, 09:57:26 pm
Remember that Arriva do receive a substantial subsidy for operating services like the 19 up to the Great Orme. In fact, they receive money twice...once from CCBC for operating a little used service like the 19 and again from WG for things like the Pensioners Bus Pass.

As well all know, the No.73 operated empty or with only 1 or 2 passengers most of the time - its retention certainly couldn't be justified if no-one used it!

Steak (in the Fat Cat) was very good. We were considering having a Chinese when we were sat in Caffe Nero but the Fat Cat won out as usual.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on April 19, 2012, 04:17:40 pm
Jolly and sunny!
I drove down out of the inland gloom today to do my shopping in a lovely sunny Llandudno. It was quiet as well, parked where I needed to and didn't even have to queue too long in M&S.
Not good for the businesses I suppose but very pleasant for the customers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 20, 2012, 07:50:37 am
OMG its so quiet,can;t we make something up to talk about,how about Waitrose buy station yard or extravaganza joy or Tudno Castle to be demolished.Lets just pretend,all town councillors lose their seats,now that would be refreshing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 20, 2012, 08:58:14 am
OMG its so quiet,can;t we make something up to talk about,how about Waitrose buy station yard or extravaganza joy or Tudno Castle to be demolished.Lets just pretend,all town councillors lose their seats,now that would be refreshing.

Late news - someone has stolen all the WC's in the Town Hall.  When asked what happened, the Mayor said that , so far we have nothing to go on!    :D

One Councillor stated that it was an Irish dwarf with one eye named Murphy - apparently they don't know what the other eye is called.     ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TELL on April 20, 2012, 01:35:41 pm
I have just bought my last Weekly News.

Front Page: Sad full-page story of young ill boy wanting to climb Snowdon
Page 2: Learn Welsh and Cookery in one go.    Miracle cat.
Page 3: Ex-soldiers charity run.   Expert help for gardeners.
Page 4: Reverend's charity run.   Rugby guru's charity run.   Teen attacker spared prison.
Page 5: Granddad's charity run.   Cyclists charity run.  Charity swim.   Gardening talk.   Kody Foundation talk.   Derelict building fire.  best window display.

I give up,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 20, 2012, 02:06:34 pm
Trinity Mirror will never recover from the loss of your business!     ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 20, 2012, 02:52:59 pm
Think they are lacking sales with quite a few forum members, myself included.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 20, 2012, 03:25:46 pm
I'm usually a defender of the NWWN but have to say that this weeks was very poor. Surely the serious road accident in Rhos should have been the front page story? Why would the front page story encourage anyone to buy a NEWSpaper?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 20, 2012, 07:06:38 pm
I used to buy the NWWN religiously each week.

I have not bought it at all this year.

When I see TELL's breakdown of this week's paper, it reminds me of why I decided to give it up.
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Post by: Blodyn on April 23, 2012, 01:46:28 pm
I bought one yesterday ( £3) on my way to Holy Trinity for the Bungee jump which was cancelled.

Nemesis, I'm just catching up here and I'm very sorry that the bungee jump was cancelled.  The operators decided that the wind was too gusty and they didn't want to hurt any of the soft toys - or cause any damage! 

For those of you who are picturing Nemesis having a bungee jump, I should make it clear that this is a soft toy bungee jump! 
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Post by: Nemesis on April 23, 2012, 06:09:24 pm
 $donald$
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Post by: born2run on April 23, 2012, 09:50:51 pm
Remember that Arriva do receive a substantial subsidy for operating services like the 19 up to the Great Orme. In fact, they receive money twice...once from CCBC for operating a little used service like the 19 and again from WG for things like the Pensioners Bus Pass.

As well all know, the No.73 operated empty or with only 1 or 2 passengers most of the time - its retention certainly couldn't be justified if no-one used it!

Steak (in the Fat Cat) was very good. We were considering having a Chinese when we were sat in Caffe Nero but the Fat Cat won out as usual.  :laugh:

A couple of years ago as part of a transport working party I had a meeting with the then new, timetable scheduler at Arriva North Wales. He was keen to wield changes and revealed to me that one bus route had been set up "Because it goes past the house of a certain Llandudno town Councillor's mother!" This didn't surprise me in the least. Apparently that route had been losing money for years, but this Councillor continued to put it through  :o
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Post by: Fester on April 23, 2012, 10:47:44 pm
Born to Run,  NOTHING that councillors and politicians will stoop to could ever surprise me.

I am cynical about them all, and their reasons for getting in to politics.  It is without exception pure self interest, or self importance, no matter what party they purport to represent.

It is purely a good way of avoiding the need to get a proper job.   &shake& &shake&
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Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2012, 07:41:47 pm
It's pleasing to see the Victorian style canopy being built outside the former Diskos shop.  $good$
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Post by: llandudnotrust on April 25, 2012, 04:17:55 pm
It's pleasing to see the Victorian style canopy being built outside the former Diskos shop.  $good$
Its looking very good and is the curved side window new ??
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Post by: DaveR on April 25, 2012, 05:39:22 pm
It's pleasing to see the Victorian style canopy being built outside the former Diskos shop.  $good$
Its looking very good and is the curved side window new ??
Yes, its had a new shopfront fitted today, looks very good.  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on April 25, 2012, 05:41:00 pm
What a change in the weather today! I went from sitting on the Terrace of the Deganwy Quay Hotel in the blazing sunshine yesterday to battling to stand upright on the Prom in the gales and rain this morning. Amazing!
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 26, 2012, 12:02:48 pm
 :o
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Post by: Llechwedd on April 27, 2012, 12:58:48 pm
Those middle aged "student" women are back outside cafe Nero and Jessops.  Maybe they are going to be here every Friday.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 27, 2012, 01:08:58 pm
Just spotted Robert Powell and Joe Pasquale going up the Orme on the tram. Last time I remember seeing Robert Powell on TV going up a hill he was carrying a cross.http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBGtPjviiY0U1YdrnzBp607Sgt7V49usz0YRbYqMc2-vyF6vlr (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBGtPjviiY0U1YdrnzBp607Sgt7V49usz0YRbYqMc2-vyF6vlr)
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Post by: DaveR on April 27, 2012, 01:38:07 pm
Those middle aged "student" women are back outside cafe Nero and Jessops.  Maybe they are going to be here every Friday.
A reminder to all Members that these women are not collecting for charity but just to line their own pockets. They have no connection with any university or college.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 27, 2012, 02:18:21 pm
Hard to believe that what they do is not illegal? It was bad enough with the big issue sellers $angry$
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Post by: Nemesis on April 27, 2012, 02:50:06 pm
Just had a go at one now, as I bought one last time-- told her it was a scam, so she glowered at me, but moved away ! :twoface:
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Post by: Michael on April 27, 2012, 03:01:23 pm
Glowering at Nemesis. Not a good idea!,!
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Post by: DaveR on April 27, 2012, 03:26:37 pm
I successfully dodged the Mag Sellers when I went into Caffe Nero earlier.  ;D
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Post by: dwsi on April 27, 2012, 06:11:10 pm
has anyone reported these scammer's to the council?

Conwy County Borough Council : Street Trading Consent http://bit.ly/IEtFHe (http://bit.ly/IEtFHe)


Street Trading Consent
A Street Trading Consent allows you to sell in the street, road and footway or any other area where the public have access.

Do I need this licence and am I eligible?

If you trade in the street you may require a street trading licence.

What you must do?

Applications should be made in writing to the Council using the relevant application form.

You must provide specific information, including details of the street you wish to trade on and the days and times you wish to trade.

You may also be required to provide two photographs of yourself.

You must comply with any conditions attached to a licence.

You must be over 17 years of age to hold a licence.

What we must do?

The council will either grant the application or serve a notice on you within a reasonable time.

The notice will be served if the council intend to refuse the application, grant it on different terms than those applied for, confine trading to a particular place in a street, vary conditions of a licence or revoke a licence.

The notice will detail the grounds for their decision and state that within seven days of the notice you can request in writing the opportunity to make representations.

Charges and Fees:

Annual Consent      £2,000

Six Month               £1200

3 Month                   £650

1 Month                   £225

1 Week                    £150

1 Day                        £50

Useful Information:

Licences will be refused if any of the following grounds exist:

there isn't enough space in the street you wish to trade in, without causing interference or inconvenience to street users
you are unsuitable to hold a licence for any reason made known to the Council
you have previously failed to pay fees due under another street trading consent
any reasonable reason
Redress mechanisms:

There is no right of appeal against a decision to refuse Street Trading Consent.

However, the decision or procedure followed by the Council may be open to an application to Judicial Review.

Contact Details:

Regulatory Services
Civic Offices
Colwyn Bay
Conwy
LL29 8AR

Telephone: 01492 576626
Fax:          01492 574036
E-mail:      regulatory.services@conwy.gov.uk       
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Post by: Yorkie on April 27, 2012, 06:28:49 pm
Freedom of Information request sent by my pal!    ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2012, 09:21:33 am
I was in Oriel Mostyn yesterday and this exhibit caught my eye. The sheer scale of it is impressive.
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Post by: Fester on April 28, 2012, 08:17:43 pm
More than 700 bottles?  I imagine Mike Ormegolf's drinks cabinet to look similar...  :laugh:

On the other topic, I would imagine that the magazine scammers are contravening several laws.
Fraud, (as they are not who they claim)
Extortion or Demanding money with menaces...(as they OVER assertive in their manner)
Misrepresentation of goods, (sale of goods act)... as the item for sale is not what it purports to be.

I'm just sick of all these people ripping people off rather than attempt to get an honest job.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 28, 2012, 08:40:13 pm
Sorry Fes but I havent got a drinks cabinet. I sold it to get more cash for the "Offie"
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Post by: TheMedz on April 29, 2012, 11:42:40 am
A lone Kite Surfer on North Shore this morning tackling the strong winds and waves. I've never seen them there only on West Shore. Probably because the wind direction is from the North East. Strong winds forecast, again from the North East, for the next few days. Joy!
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Post by: Nemesis on April 29, 2012, 12:53:57 pm
Perishing cold and wet !Time it warmed up !
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Post by: Bellringer on April 29, 2012, 12:59:29 pm
A poor day and no good for Great Orme golf. I followed Mike along Mostyn Broadway a short time ago and he had obviously given up on any customers turning up. Indoors by the fire is probably the best option today.
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Post by: Bellringer on April 30, 2012, 12:31:03 pm
A much better day today but still a bit breezy.

Where is everyone today? It's very quiet on here, only two posts all morning. Are you still in Llanberis Dave?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2012, 12:47:56 pm
No, I'm in Llandudno today, Stan.

Things have been rather quiet on here lately, even though unique visitor numbers this month have soared to over 11,000. I can only assume all those visitors love to hear the thoughts of the few active members on here.

What I found interesting on Facebook yesterday was that I posted a couple of old photos on one of the Llandudno groups and received more comments in an hour than we've had in two days on here.

Maybe we'll all end up chatting on Facebook instead of here in a separate Forum? It would be interesting to know how many members aren't on Facebook?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on April 30, 2012, 04:44:04 pm
Me for one.   ;D
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Post by: SDQ on April 30, 2012, 05:09:33 pm
Ditto
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Post by: Fester on April 30, 2012, 07:46:50 pm
I'm not allowed on Facebook....  :(

but don't let that stop you, no one cares what I have to say anyway.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2012, 08:17:01 pm
no one cares what I have to say anyway.
With good reason, generally...  :laugh:
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Post by: snowcap on April 30, 2012, 10:14:11 pm
none facebooker
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Post by: Blodyn on April 30, 2012, 11:20:50 pm
I'm not on Facebook either. 
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Post by: dwsi on April 30, 2012, 11:28:52 pm
This is why Llandudno needs it's aerial platform

BBC News - Fire destroys Best Western Hotel in Falmouth http://bbc.in/ID50Cl (http://bbc.in/ID50Cl)
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Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2012, 10:31:24 am
Llandudno has been voted the tenth best visitor destination in the UK by TripAdvisor:

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/TravelersChoice-Destinations (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/TravelersChoice-Destinations)

 $good$
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Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2012, 05:32:19 pm
I noticed today that all the glass is being removed from the canopy of the Broadway Boulevard/Grand Theatre, presumably for safety reasons. Word is that there's no money to replace it, unfortunately.
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Post by: Bellringer on May 03, 2012, 09:21:38 pm
From what I saw when passing this morning, the glass (or some of it) was not being removed intact because there was broken glass all over the pavement.
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Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2012, 10:32:34 pm
Quite a few panes were damaged. Odd idea to remove all of them instead of just the odd broken one though.
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Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2012, 09:49:20 am
A reminder that Mostyn Street will be closed from Midday today for Extravaganza preparations. Bryn Y Bia Road in Craig Y Don is already closed.
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Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2012, 08:47:13 pm
The Alice Tea Party was held on the Prom this afternoon, and a very good event it was too. 1,716 people were there to break the world record for jam tart eating. Many people had made the effort to dress up in character and even the rain held off. I said hello to a few Forum members as well, you know who you are.  ;)

http://www.itv.com/news/wales/update/2012-05-04/children-celebrate-anniversary/ (http://www.itv.com/news/wales/update/2012-05-04/children-celebrate-anniversary/)

Some photos:
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Post by: hollins on May 05, 2012, 10:54:32 am
Looks a great atmosphere. Thanks for posting them for all to see. I am looking forward to seeing some photos of the Extravaganza if anyone has taken any?? Hope so!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 05, 2012, 11:01:20 am
Have walked through part of the set with the dog this morning and it is getting quite busy. Spoke to a few familiar faces from past years including Queen Victoria !
Going now to get my costume on and join the parade.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2012, 07:08:31 pm
When I left the house this morning, I thought the cold weather might keep the visitors away from the Extravaganza. How wrong I was!
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Post by: hollins on May 05, 2012, 07:24:31 pm
Amazing!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 06, 2012, 09:49:51 am
I've been in the Parade now for 12 years and I don't think I have ever seen the crowds so big!. So many people cheering, taking photos and clapping-- a lovely atmosphere.
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Post by: Yorkie on May 06, 2012, 03:40:24 pm
Doesn't do my Ochlophobia any good!     ;)
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Post by: Karen and Derek on May 07, 2012, 09:14:41 am
That looks like Trojan in the crowd!  :)

I wondered what had happened to him.

Karen.
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Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2012, 01:21:18 pm
Appeal after vehicles damaged in Llandudno
08/05/2012

Police are appealing for information after 11 cars parked outside hotels on Llandudno promenade were damaged over the Bank holiday weekend.
 
The vehicles were parked on the hotel side of the promenade between Gloddaeth Crescent, Mostyn Crescent and St George’s Cresecent.
 
Inspector Ian Verburg said that the damaged cars had been scratched as they were parked between Saturday May 5 and Sunday May 6.
 
He said that they were now anxious to speak to anyone who might have noticed anything suspicious.
 
He said: “I would appeal for any witnesses to what was mindless damage caused on an otherwise quiet and good natured Bank Holiday weekend in Llandudno, which saw the hosting of the Victorian Extravaganza."
 
Anyone with information is asked to contact North Wales Police on 101 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.  here
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 08, 2012, 01:35:54 pm
 :o Terrible that after all of the good work done to bring tourists here this weekend this happens! Why oh why do they do it? Too much alcohol probably!  $angry$
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2012, 04:21:37 pm
The Clarence Hotel is looking very sad these days. All work stopped on site and the word is that the structural problems are so bad that demolition/rebuilding may be the only way forward.
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Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2012, 08:28:03 am
I received an email this morning from CCBC regarding the Oympic Torch Relay. Roads will be closed whilst it passes through and any vehicles blocking the route will be towed away.  Seems an awful lot of fuss to me, for an event that is of no relevance to this area and has resulted in Lottery funds being diverted from the rest of the UK to London.


As you’ll be aware the Olympic Torch Relay visits Conwy County Borough on Tuesday, 29 May 2012.
 
The relay will take most of the day to travel from Conwy to Kinmel Bay and will involve a rolling roadblock as it travels through the area.

I have attached a copy of the itinerary so that you are able to warn staff, colleagues, suppliers or customers in advance that the relay is in your area.   If advised in advance, most people will be able to make alternative arrangements to minimise disruption to their travel plans.

For example: Bangor Road, Conwy will be closed to traffic from approximately 08:20 until 08:50hrs.

If you have any questions about the Torch Relay visiting Conwy County Borough please contact Alun Pritchard, Senior Marketing Officer on (01492) 575498 or email alun.pritchard@conwy.gov.uk
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 14, 2012, 09:31:09 am
Seems a big fuss about nothing to me too, a complete waste of money!
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Post by: bigbadhenry on May 14, 2012, 09:37:38 am
Seems a big fuss about nothing to me too, a complete waste of money!

Agree, of no interest to me.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 14, 2012, 12:12:07 pm
I've been driving around for years with a torch in the car, never had any need for a rolling roadblock  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 10:02:32 am
I just noticed this in a recent Planning Application:

"Over the past 15 years, population growth in the Llandudno and Colwyn Bay areas has
been significantly greater than previously forecast, such that the drinking water supply
design population for 2055, predicted in 1997, has now been reached. 
As a result, during periods of peak demand DCWW has difficulty in maintaining water
levels at downstream service reservoirs and this has led, in turn, to numerous customer
complaints regarding low tap pressure. "

This was a point I was making the other day - we can't just carry on building more and more houses that are creating an ever greater strain on the infrastructure.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 15, 2012, 10:16:40 am
Might need to dam an English valley to supply North Wales!  ;D  $walesflag$
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Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 10:57:13 am
Imagine the howls of outrage if that was suggested...
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Post by: Cambrian on May 15, 2012, 01:21:32 pm
There seem to be two separate issues here.  Pressure issues are not necessarily the same as security of supply.  Areas like Llanrhos have suffered low pressure at peak times for years which is why the old Board/Council built the two pumping stations at Glan Conwy Corner.  One was demolished as part of the A55 works and I don't know if the other still works.
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Post by: DaveR on May 15, 2012, 02:11:21 pm
The report draws a clear connection between the expanding population and the resulting fall in water pressure?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 16, 2012, 11:04:29 am
I haven't noticed it before but there is a flag flying near the jetty awarded by Keep Wales Tidy.  $good$

In March each year, the distinctive yellow and blue flag is awarded to beaches that meet mandatory standard water quality and are;

• Clean
• Safe
• Well-managed

Because beaches are all very different in character, the Seaside Awards are split into two categories, resort and rural.

A Seaside Award ‘RESORT’ beach attracts many visitors with its facilities and activities. Usually found in or near towns, resort beaches provide toilets, car parks, access and facilities for disabled people and restrict access for dogs.

There are 29 different criteria which are checked at each resort beach before the award is made.

So congratulations, Llandudno.

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Post by: Trojan on May 17, 2012, 09:12:53 pm
That looks like Trojan in the crowd!  :)

I wondered what had happened to him.

Karen.

That's not me Karen you daft bat.  8)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 17, 2012, 09:38:18 pm
 :o long time no see! Welcome back!  :D
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Post by: Trojan on May 17, 2012, 09:43:18 pm
:o long time no see! Welcome back!  :D

 $thanx$
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Post by: DaveR on May 17, 2012, 10:00:39 pm
:o long time no see! Welcome back!  :D

 $thanx$
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Post by: Blodyn on May 17, 2012, 11:36:18 pm
Trojan, how nice to see you back.   :D
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Post by: Llechwedd on May 18, 2012, 11:46:21 am
Just come back from London which is decorated over all with Union Jacks and looks great. There are massive ones hanging all the way down Oxford Street and the shops have some lovely windows - Selfridges etc.  So it was good to see that Asda here had been decorated with bunting yesterday the only thing is we are in Wales and there were no Welsh flags flying.  She is our Queen too so hopefully the ddraig will make an appearance soon everywhere.

I was disappointed that you can only stand on the bridges if invited and vetted so will be watching the pageant on tv.  Hope it doesn't rain.

Oh by the way the new Cutty Sark is suspended over a coffe bar, didn't fancy sitting there just in case.....!
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Post by: craigollerton on May 18, 2012, 01:41:15 pm
Enjoying a brisk walk along the prom right now actually.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 18, 2012, 08:06:43 pm
Here you can see local dignitary John West,   :laugh: ....overseeing maintenance work at Hooson's Corner.

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Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2012, 09:08:06 pm
They'll get more sense out of him than most of the Town Councillors... :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 19, 2012, 09:30:58 am
I walked the dog along the prom last nite and was amazed at the state of the town beach,grass growing where the stones meet the steps and the only sandy bit is covered in stones and mussle shells,how the hell they got an award baffles me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 19, 2012, 11:40:49 am
I am delighted to see Trojan back on the forum.
  As several members know I spent a lot of the winter overseas so my forum reading was often interrupted. On my return I soon realised that Trojan was absent.
  But I could'nt trace a "goodbye" message anywhere and I was apprehensive about asking outright where is he?  Mike
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Post by: Bellringer on May 19, 2012, 12:22:35 pm
Yes you are right Mike, it is good to see him back.
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Post by: Paddy on May 19, 2012, 05:56:35 pm
Yes you are right Mike, it is good to see him back.

And he's already an "ad free" member! Welcome back matey.
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Post by: andrea1976 on May 20, 2012, 05:08:39 pm
Well back from another enjoyable holiday in Llandudno,will be back for a week in August   ;D yeah !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 20, 2012, 07:25:39 pm
Enjoying a brisk walk along the prom right now actually.

Lovely.....many seagulls around Craig?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 20, 2012, 07:29:02 pm
Here you can see local dignitary John West,   :laugh: ....overseeing maintenance work at Hooson's Corner.

I used to enjoy his tins of salmon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 20, 2012, 07:30:57 pm
Yes you are right Mike, it is good to see him back.

And he's already an "ad free" member! Welcome back matey.

Cheers Paddy.  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 20, 2012, 07:31:57 pm
I am delighted to see Trojan back on the forum.
  As several members know I spent a lot of the winter overseas so my forum reading was often interrupted. On my return I soon realised that Trojan was absent.
  But I could'nt trace a "goodbye" message anywhere and I was apprehensive about asking outright where is he?  Mike

Goodbye Mike.  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 20, 2012, 07:35:51 pm
Yes you are right Mike, it is good to see him back.

Thanks for chiming up Stan.  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 21, 2012, 12:06:06 am
Well back from another enjoyable holiday in Llandudno,will be back for a week in August   ;D yeah !

Lovely to see you again Andrea........  in August its still best to avoid buying Slinky's ... our little private joke eh?  ;) ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: craigollerton on May 21, 2012, 01:05:35 pm
Enjoying a brisk walk along the prom right now actually.

Lovely.....many seagulls around Craig?

Too many! The cull is far overdue.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on May 21, 2012, 02:08:34 pm
Yes you are right Mike, it is good to see him back.

Thanks for chiming up Stan.  ;D

My pleasure Trojan. I have missed your bell related puns, so now look forward to you adding to my list!

BTW it's a beautiful day in North Wales - in fact one of those days when it really does make you feel so fortunate to live in the area.
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Post by: andrea1976 on May 21, 2012, 02:42:52 pm
ha ha i don't know think it will be about time you had  another slinky challenge ;) by the way the creams fab  :D see you soon
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 21, 2012, 05:41:14 pm
Trojan and Craig back in the same week,what have they been band for ,is this a probation period.lol
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Post by: craigollerton on May 21, 2012, 06:43:57 pm
Banned? i've been a member of this forum for sometime, though somewhat inactive. More a reader from a distance you could say, than a contributor that is.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on May 21, 2012, 07:34:37 pm
Enjoying a brisk walk along the prom right now actually.

Lovely.....many seagulls around Craig?

Too many! The cull is far overdue.


The seagulls are quite frightening. I was walking across the zebra crossing opposite M&S this afternoon close to a young woman carrying a half eaten sandwich. The gull really went for her and was still poised for another attack as she got to the other side.
Later I was in Asda car park. Someone had thrown a brown paper Mc Donald's food bag on the floor including leftover contents, how anyone can do that is totally beyond me, but it provided great sport for the seagulls who were grabbing the bag and throwing it up into the air to try and empty out any food scraps.
I hope that Asda can prosecute the original litter offenders by consulting their CCTV.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 21, 2012, 11:09:25 pm
Banned? I've been a member of this forum for sometime, though somewhat inactive, due to having my fingers broken then dipped into a scalding pan of chip fat by three masked geezers.

Llandudno is a wonderful place to convalesce.

Forecast for tomorrow is sunny and around 23 degrees.  $sunny$
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Post by: Fester on May 21, 2012, 11:28:04 pm
Ha ha Trojan..... I can think of no better way to heal scalded fingers than by wrapping them around a cold beer glass.  Z** Z**

.... and a certain Dave R has something to celebrate on 22nd May I believe?   +}}{--
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Post by: craigollerton on May 21, 2012, 11:55:17 pm
Banned? I've been a member of this forum for sometime, though somewhat inactive, due to having my fingers broken then dipped into a scalding pan of chip fat by three masked geezers.

Llandudno is a wonderful place to convalesce.

Forecast for tomorrow is sunny and around 23 degrees.  $sunny$

Ouch. Those prosphetic fingers must take some getting used to.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: craigollerton on May 22, 2012, 11:58:22 am
The sunset from the top of the Great Orme last night was fine to see though a little hazy on the horizon. Enjoy this week whilst it lasts.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2012, 06:18:04 pm
A mess thats what it is like today,flower beds full of weeds,paddling pool empty of water and the so called sandy beach full of shells and stones and not one councillor gives a damn.
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Post by: Bellringer on May 22, 2012, 06:39:07 pm
Don't despair Wrex. I think it's normal for the beds to be planted with summer bedding plants at the end of May and early June. So give it a couple of weeks and I'm sure all the beds will look vastly different - it's that "gap" at present between the Spring plants and the Summer ones.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: craigollerton on May 22, 2012, 06:51:30 pm
Give it a few more years and they'll be using evergreen shrubs to save even more money, that wouldn't surprise me! At least then there'll always be some colour rex? Whats wrong with weeds anyway, maybe it's deliberate, dandelions have lovely gold flowers!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on May 22, 2012, 07:34:40 pm
Mrs Medz and I followed a young couple pushing a pram with a toddler in tow up through Happy Valley this morning. They got to the cattle grid to realise the ski run was being refurbished and more importantly to them that the toboggan wasn't in operation.  We both felt really guilty that they had been disappointed then the chap was heard to utter " The toboggans not open.  That's really spoiled my day in Llangollen".
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on May 22, 2012, 10:25:58 pm
why is there no sign's in happy vally to tell people the  ski and toboggan are not in use instead of letting them walk all the way up that climb? They want the cafe business i guess
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 23, 2012, 09:29:03 am
A lot of the street nameplates around central Llandudno are currently being renewed. Just cheap aluminium ones, of course, but they will look ok for a few years at least.

I also noticed that the pavement in Upper Mostyn Street (Rose Tor Hotel side) had been powerwashed recently. Looks a lot better but maybe the broken paving stones should have been replaced first?
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Post by: TheMedz on May 23, 2012, 01:57:09 pm
Who stole the town and the bay ? It was there when I went to bed last night but no sign of it this morning!
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Post by: hollins on May 23, 2012, 02:09:39 pm
Have you got fog down there?
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Post by: DaveR on May 23, 2012, 02:22:09 pm
More thick mist than anything. but its been persisting all day.
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Post by: hollins on May 23, 2012, 02:27:50 pm
I am sunbathing!
However I must admit you usually have much better weather than we do.
I miss fog. In my Peak District days it was foggy about 80% of the time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on May 23, 2012, 02:29:45 pm
Strange position of having mist below us stopping us from seeing the town and bay and also mist above us stopping us seeing up beyond crossing point on the tram track. In the middle around Black Gate it's clear and strangely very warm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 23, 2012, 08:28:45 pm
You can see the mist sweeping in across the Pier & Happy Valley in this iPhone shot:
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Post by: Trojan on May 23, 2012, 08:59:45 pm
Ha ha Trojan..... I can think of no better way to heal scalded fingers than by wrapping them around a cold beer glass.  Z** Z**

.... and a certain Dave R has something to celebrate on 22nd May I believe?   +}}{--

Excellent idea Fest..... $drink1$

....and a certain Dave R has something to celebrate on 24th May also I hope.  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 24, 2012, 07:17:06 am
Seven people bitten by Adders around Llandudn (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18171174)o over a two year period:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18171174 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-18171174)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 24, 2012, 07:53:44 am
Do we know what the concrete block on bog island is for,it would be nice to see a fountain erected in town somewhere,unbelieveable that Owen Williams never included any when he set the resort up.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2012, 08:06:59 am
Do we know what the concrete block on bog island is for,it would be nice to see a fountain erected in town somewhere,unbelieveable that Owen Williams never included any when he set the resort up.
There's a couple of bits of similar work going on around town, there's another hole at the junction of Chapel Street/Gloddaeth Street. Something to do with the Alice Trail maybe?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 24, 2012, 09:34:31 am
Do we know what the concrete block on bog island is for,it would be nice to see a fountain erected in town somewhere,unbelieveable that Owen Williams never included any when he set the resort up.
There's a couple of bits of similar work going on around town, there's another hole at the junction of Chapel Street/Gloddaeth Street. Something to do with the Alice Trail maybe?

Hmm, Curiouser and curiouser...  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 24, 2012, 10:59:22 am
Maybe Dave,the same block has now arrived at Gloddaeth st
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Post by: Nemesis on May 24, 2012, 01:07:34 pm
Talking of the Alice Trail-- I haven't been to Happy Valley for a couple of weeks and was amazed to see the new wood carving of the Alice Book and the Ten red toadstools! They look lovely-- hope they stay that way ! ;D
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Post by: wrex on May 24, 2012, 04:36:23 pm
what about the bandstand Nemesis ,is that there
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Post by: Nemesis on May 24, 2012, 05:21:16 pm
No--- just the base. Nay Wrex--- don't expect miracles !
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Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2012, 05:24:16 pm
Did anyone see the Red Arrows flying in formation over the Pier earlier?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 24, 2012, 05:34:55 pm
We saw them fly over Rhos on Sea earlier, a great site to see!  D)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 24, 2012, 06:00:43 pm
A lovely surprise timed at 3.25pm.

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ludo on May 24, 2012, 07:12:05 pm
Did anyone see the Red Arrows flying in formation over the Pier earlier?

Fantastic - you lucky people! What was the significance of the display - was it for the Queen's Jubilee or something?
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Post by: Fester on May 24, 2012, 09:39:54 pm
Had a few beers with Dave R and Trojan tonight.... a pleasure guys.   ZXZ

On the way home, I saw the sign in the window of this house, and I assumed (as anyone would) that it was a kind invitation to me!


So, I walked in, sat down amongst the lovely people having their tea, and waited to be served.  $dins$

How wrong can you be?      Anyhow, the police managed to sort out the situation and I have promised to to respect the restraining order from now on.  :laugh: :laugh:

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 24, 2012, 09:58:55 pm
Don't forget that Mr & Mrs Wrex also made an appearance tonight, they spotted us as they were on a stroll around town.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on May 25, 2012, 12:00:11 am
Did anyone see the Red Arrows flying in formation over the Pier earlier?

Fantastic - you lucky people! What was the significance of the display - was it for the Queen's Jubilee or something?

Yes Ludo. They're practicing out of Valley for the Jubilee celebration display.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 25, 2012, 07:31:44 am
Yes you all know i like a moan and here i go again ,walked alongthe prom upto the Happy valley,the tide was out and i could;nt believe the rocks had taken over the beach,i did read that they are going to clear them,iwonder when(sept),then up to see the new Alice statue which has grafitti on it already,once again the grass has not been cut,water feature dead,mess.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on May 25, 2012, 09:14:51 am
Had a few beers with Dave R and Trojan tonight.... a pleasure guys.   ZXZ

On the way home, I saw the sign in the window of this house, and I assumed (as anyone would) that it was a kind invitation to me!


So, I walked in, sat down amongst the lovely people having their tea, and waited to be served.  $dins$

How wrong can you be?      Anyhow, the police managed to sort out the situation and I have promised to to respect the restraining order from now on.  :laugh: :laugh:

A couple of ladies from a Horse Rescue Sanctuary have been in residence in Ty Haf for the last 3 weeks or so. Regular tenants with a large 4 wheel drive rescue wagon parked outside for carrying any potential party interlopers away.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on May 25, 2012, 12:39:06 pm
Well no one could complain about the weather this week but hope it lasts until next for the Olympic torch being paraded along the North Wales coast, and Llandudno especially on Tuesday morning. We shall be ringing the bells.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on May 25, 2012, 05:16:02 pm
Everyone must have been sunbathing this afternoon - too warm for any activity on here. I know DaveR is enjoying a nice cool drink, is everyone else too?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 25, 2012, 05:19:28 pm
Sorry-- been up to my ears in washing and ironing for most of today. It dried quickly though !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 25, 2012, 08:41:51 pm
why is there no sign's in happy vally to tell people the  ski and toboggan are not in use instead of letting them walk all the way up that climb? They want the cafe business i guess

I think you're right. This is what the slope looks like at the moment. The ski lodge did indeed look open.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 25, 2012, 08:45:47 pm
The sunset from the top of the Great Orme last night was fine to see though a little hazy on the horizon. Enjoy this week whilst it lasts.

Nice sunset seen from the top of Bryniau recently.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 25, 2012, 08:51:47 pm
Yes you all know i like a moan and here i go again ,walked alongthe prom upto the Happy valley,the tide was out and i could;nt believe the rocks had taken over the beach,i did read that they are going to clear them,iwonder when(sept),then up to see the new Alice statue which has grafitti on it already,once again the grass has not been cut,water feature dead,mess.

Talking about Alice statues.....what's happened to the White Rabbit and Joe-90's cage?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: martin on May 25, 2012, 08:55:01 pm
why is there no sign's in happy vally to tell people the  ski and toboggan are not in use instead of letting them walk all the way up that climb? They want the cafe business i guess

I think you're right. This is what the slope looks like at the moment. The ski lodge did indeed look open.
What happened to the ski/toboggan runs, have they gone whatsit's up?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 25, 2012, 09:05:57 pm
why is there no sign's in happy vally to tell people the  ski and toboggan are not in use instead of letting them walk all the way up that climb? They want the cafe business i guess

I think you're right. This is what the slope looks like at the moment. The ski lodge did indeed look open.
What happened to the ski/toboggan runs, have they gone whatsit's up?

Looks like they're renovating the artificial surface.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: martin on May 25, 2012, 09:55:04 pm
Thanks Trojan  $good$ we have friends coming to stay shortly and I had told them about the slope, so hope it reopens soon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2012, 11:19:36 pm
It wouldn't be a night out for Fester and myself if it didn't end up with three Police cars turning up at the Fat Cat. Not our fault, we should point out.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 25, 2012, 11:59:50 pm
It wouldn't be a night out for Fester and myself if it didn't end up with three Police cars turning up at the Fat Cat. Not our fault, we should point out.  $good$

Oh dear, what happened?  :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 26, 2012, 12:11:03 am
Well, it wasn't YOUR fault Dave...  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Trojan on May 26, 2012, 12:15:29 am
Well, it wasn't YOUR fault Dave...  :laugh: :laugh:

  $lol$ Bradford aggro, Bradford aggro hello......
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 26, 2012, 12:21:30 am
 :laugh: :laugh:

I've retired ... I'm an old man...  you took me back to my youth then...  :laugh:

Now, where's my slippers, where's my Horlicks?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2012, 07:00:35 am
Good morning,what a lovely day,all the families will be queing up to get a good spot around the paddling pool today,has anyone thought about putting water in it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 26, 2012, 07:05:27 am
I did see a little boy from Brussels attempting to fill it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 26, 2012, 08:51:46 am
Hottest day of the year so far yesterday, went past the Pier Entrance in the late afternoon, loads of people about....ice cream kiosk was closed.  :-X  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 26, 2012, 09:39:37 am
Was it after 6pm?

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 26, 2012, 10:24:03 am
No, it was about 5pm, still lots of people about.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 26, 2012, 02:22:20 pm
tHAT IS THE REASON THE PIER COMPANY IS IN A MESS.
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Post by: Bellringer on May 26, 2012, 05:51:56 pm
Perhaps they had run out!!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 26, 2012, 06:13:59 pm
Possibly, except that particular kiosk also sells candy floss and donuts.

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 27, 2012, 02:24:32 pm
Paddling pool will be disscussed on Tudno FM in the morning,CCBC could;nt give a damn about Llandudno,this little heatwave was predicted so you would think the powers that be would have the pools a priority,NO NOT CCBC they just treat this town with little respect,unless they can screw our visitors by charging to park on the prom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 28, 2012, 08:26:39 am
The empty Paddling Pool situation is just absolutely ridiculous. Is there no-one within CCBC with the brains to open the valve and start filling it up with water?

The state of the Prom gardens is appalling, it looks like they couldn't care less. I also noticed that the size of the beds allocated for summer bedding plants has been reduced yet again by about 25%, the remaining area having a few half dead Lavenders stuck in it.

We're practically in June and the Carlton roundabout and other major flowerbeds in town are just full of dust and weeds.

Grass hasn't been cut in Happy Valley and the water feature appears to have died a death once again.

Very poor.  &shake&  &shake&  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 28, 2012, 08:54:29 am
After receiving all that funding, I was surprised to notice Cafe Cais is closed on Sundays when the coach park was very busy yesterday.

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 29, 2012, 09:03:35 am
You can watch live tv coverage of the Olympic Torch passing through the area here:
http://www.london2012.com/torch-relay/video/live.html (http://www.london2012.com/torch-relay/video/live.html)

..and its current position on the map:
http://www.london2012.com/torch-relay/route/ (http://www.london2012.com/torch-relay/route/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on May 29, 2012, 11:16:31 am
Torch in Cable Car over Pen Dinas
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Post by: emma p on May 29, 2012, 04:50:43 pm
Great pic ! I watched today with my children at school via the live stream on the internet. It comes to us on the 30th june.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 30, 2012, 09:21:23 pm
Call me the grim reaper but with such a big event in town could the parks department not have planted up the Carlton roundabout and other things en-route,such a shame that nobody on CCBChas any thought for Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2012, 11:44:00 pm
The concrete plinths that have been appearing around town are for wooden Alice In Wonderland sculptures, apparently:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2012, 11:47:18 pm
Call me the grim reaper but with such a big event in town could the parks department not have planted up the Carlton roundabout and other things en-route,such a shame that nobody on CCBChas any thought for Llandudno.
Even Rhyl is doing better than us, a new Promenade and a working water feature!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 31, 2012, 12:08:30 am
How long before that water feature in Rhyl is choked up with Subway wrappers, McDonalds Big Mac boxes and beer cans?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2012, 07:03:06 am
To be fair, it's been there for 10 years at least, so they must be looking after it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 31, 2012, 07:28:50 am
has anyone reported these scammer's to the council?

Conwy County Borough Council : Street Trading Consent http://bit.ly/IEtFHe (http://bit.ly/IEtFHe)


Street Trading Consent
A Street Trading Consent allows you to sell in the street, road and footway or any other area where the public have access.

Do I need this licence and am I eligible?

If you trade in the street you may require a street trading licence.

What you must do?

Etc.  Etc.  etc.

My pal's Freedom of information request received the following answers.


Apologies for the inconvenience – please find the information cover the
period 1st May 2011 to 27th April 2012.

Q1 how many Street Trading Licences have been applied for within the
last  year up to and including (if possible) the date of receipt of this
enquiry.

A1. 6

Q2. Of the applications received will you also advise me how many have
been approved, how many have been refused

A2. 5 approved    1 refused

Q3. The total revenue generated from the fees

A3. £2930.00

Q4. Breakdown of location

A4. The Licences cover areas within the County of Conwy – a detailed
breakdown is not routinely held in a separate file. However if this
information is required for your purposes please let me know and I will
arrange for a search of the relevant files for the exact locations to be
identified.
~~~~~~~~~~~

From the answers it would seem that the majority of street traders are getting away without authorisation or payment!     Maybe this is a Revenue Stream that the Council could cultivate through the Traffic Wardens or the Highways Department!
 Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2012, 08:32:00 am
Oscar is saying that Gypsies have moved onto the West Shore Car park by the Beach Cafe.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 31, 2012, 09:45:56 am
If that is true, then I feel desperately sorry for the Beach Cafe.
This is a disaster for the town just before the Bank Holiday.

Also, for anyone living within a mile radius, extra vigilance is required.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 31, 2012, 09:50:32 am
It's pouring with rain today, as the heatwave of the last week or so ends. In other news, CCBC have just started to fill the Paddling Pool....seriously!  :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on May 31, 2012, 10:23:05 am
The demolition work at Plas-y dre is getting under way.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 31, 2012, 10:28:08 am
It's pouring with rain today, as the heatwave of the last week or so ends. In other news, CCBC have just started to fill the Paddling Pool....seriously!  :laugh:

Thank you for giving me that laugh, just what I needed after the gypsy news.   CCBC are like a tragi-comedy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 31, 2012, 10:36:47 am
Oscar is saying that Gypsies have moved onto the West Shore Car park by the Beach Cafe.

If they have then they must be living in a Nissan Micra, a Ford Focus and Mini because that was all that was on the West Shore car park five minutes ago.

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2012, 10:42:22 am
It's pouring with rain today, as the heatwave of the last week or so ends. In other news, CCBC have just started to fill the Paddling Pool....seriously!  :laugh:

It's just a joke!   I was driving past last week and it was a beautiful hot day and that paddling pool would have been full of children enjoying themselves and making the most of the weather.
 I wonder what excuse CCBC have for this, perhaps they are not allowed to fill the pool before a certain date but whatever reason, it is ridiculous.   Craig Y Don Councillors should have ensured that this pool was full especially because the spell of good weather had been predicted.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 31, 2012, 10:43:36 am
Oscar is saying that Gypsies have moved onto the West Shore Car park by the Beach Cafe.

If they have then they must be living in a Nissan Micra, a Ford Focus and Mini because that was all that was on the West Shore car park five minutes ago.

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Thank you Bri!   That's another posting that has lifted my spirits...   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 31, 2012, 10:43:57 am
Oscar is saying that Gypsies have moved onto the West Shore Car park by the Beach Cafe.

If they have then they must be living in a Nissan Micra, a Ford Focus and Mini because that was all that was on the West Shore car park five minutes ago.

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Just been told by a local who lives opposite that this was last week !!!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2012, 06:33:08 pm
It's pouring with rain today, as the heatwave of the last week or so ends. In other news, CCBC have just started to fill the Paddling Pool....seriously!  :laugh:

When I drove past this afternoon it looked like they were cleaning the paddling pool in preparation for filling it.  As it's the 31st May today it won't be filled until June so does anyone know if there are any set dates for when the paddling pool is filled and for when it is emptied?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 31, 2012, 06:38:08 pm
Hugo, here is half an answer for you:

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/section.asp?cat=9157&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/section.asp?cat=9157&Language=1)

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2012, 07:48:18 pm
Thanks very much for posting that Bri, it's such a shame that it wasn't open last week as it's a great attraction for everyone.  When we were kids a load of us from Cwm Place would spend hours there during the day.
I hope that the opening/closing dates are not set in stone because they need to be flexible due to our unpredictable weather.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on May 31, 2012, 10:04:05 pm
I see the hoardings have gone up around Plas y Dre on Gloddaeth Avenue. I hope something is going to be done fairly quickly otherwise this could be another one for the Local Eyesores thread.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 01, 2012, 08:38:29 am
The 'Welcome to Llandudno' sign on Penrhyn Hill has been removed for repairs and to have the word 'Croeso' added.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 01, 2012, 10:30:46 am
My OH has just come in and says the pier looks wonderful with all the flags etc. Congrats to all concerned.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 02, 2012, 11:24:15 am
Wheeeee! At least someone has made some effort to look festive for the Jubilee.
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Post by: Cat Stevens on June 02, 2012, 02:38:03 pm
What has happened to the Little Deli on upper mostyn street. its closed and all around are saying it has folded. Something to do with lack of trade and money. people are talking of bailiffs etc. such a sad shame I loved their choc's
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Post by: Nemesis on June 02, 2012, 03:34:58 pm
The notice in the window says to follow them on Facebook.
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Post by: Fester on June 02, 2012, 09:50:33 pm
Thats the problem....
I loved the hot roast beef sandwich they did, and a luxury mushroom soup too... plus exquisite ice cream.

BUT.... I only went a couple of times a year, and its just not enough to sustain these great little businesses.

When a business closes down which I like, I usually look to myself and realise that I didn't patronise it enough.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2012, 08:33:24 pm
Little Deli has been completely cleared out now. As I recall, that unit lets for about £10k a year, so will be let fairly quickly, I'm sure.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2012, 08:34:51 pm
You do have to laugh sometimes at some of things CCBC do. Whose idea was it to put a new street sign on Clonmel Street behind the railings, so that it cant be clearly seen?!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 06, 2012, 09:19:43 pm
Dave leave those CCBC people alone,its only our money they are playing with.
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Post by: wrex on June 07, 2012, 06:59:03 am
On a happier note i think CCBC are actually thinking of bedding all the plants in,im sure they are later than normal but i do hope they put a bit of effort into Llandudno;s this year,im just suprised they have not turfed the Carlton roundabout to save on flowers,makes me laugth when i see them get ride of flower beds by gradually turfing them over.It probably is me but when i go near Bodlondeb or into Colwyn Bay their displays seem far better and better maintained,but that could be just my opinion.On the bright side CCBC have managed to avoid the issues of the Pier Pavillion,The Clarence,Llandudno railway station,Tudno castle and Illuminated car parking signs,this is the sign of a good council when they can get away with treating a town like this without any objections,well done CCBC and especially all Llandudno county councillors for your CONCERN.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2012, 10:25:51 am
The New Llandudno Mayor has made a few statements about what she would like to achieve in her year of Office.

The Station to become  fantastic travel and transport hub.   Divine assistance necessary!

New Slipway to attract International sailing competitions.   

The Alice in Wonderland Trail (well it has been started on, let's hope it gets finished!)

There are also a "number of initiatives" to promote the Town both Nationally and Internationally!

Have we not heard all this rhetoric before somewhere?   Was anything achieved the last time we heard it?   Will it ever happen?   The pigs are flexing their wings ready to give an impressive formation flying display over Llandudno to coincide with the realisation of any one of these being achieved!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 07, 2012, 11:41:01 am
New Slipway to attract International sailing competitions.   

 

Today, the NWNN only describe this initiative as the building of a new slipway for the sailing club.

There is no mention at all of any international sailing competitions in the pipeline.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2012, 12:16:16 pm
Well my copy of the NWWN has it from the Mayor's quote at the bottom of Page 3!!   just shows that one side doesn't know what the other side is doing! ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2012, 09:26:08 pm
Council gardeners were hard at work in the pouring rain this afternoon in Prince Edward Square.
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Post by: Michael on June 07, 2012, 10:01:41 pm
   And another four have been with me helping to get the golf course ready for tomorrows cup competition ---- and now it looks that the weather has put a stop to the whole thing  Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 07, 2012, 11:38:25 pm
On the topic of the Mayor's promises...

Well, why should anyone listen to that drivel.

Its only a year ago, (a year that passed very quickly) when the new Mayor stated that he had only ONE priority.

He would resolve the Pier Pavilion Eyesore in his year in his office.

I recall posting on here at the time that it was a ludicrous thing to say.  Its just a shame I couldn't get Ladbrokes to accept a bet on the outcome.  It would have been the easiest money I ever made.
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Post by: wrex on June 08, 2012, 07:47:11 am
The odds would have been pathetic so you would not have had much return Fester,its just like me thinking they might improve my xmas lights,or they might put the Llandudno welcomes(croeso) you sign on the A470, the main road into Llandudno,they are spending all that money so the residents of Penrhyn Bay and Rhos-on Sea can admire it,idiots.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2012, 08:45:10 am
Credit where it's due to CCBC. I reported a sunken manhole next to the traffic island by Villa Marina at Craigside on Wednesday and it was fixed yesterday, just one day after I made the report!

It's been a problem for several years, with cars swerving to avoid it, so doubt it was a coincidence!

I reported it via FixMyStreet:
http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/255544 (http://www.fixmystreet.com/report/255544)

Well Done to CCBC.  $thanx$
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Post by: Dwyforite on June 08, 2012, 11:52:11 am
it would not have been done so quickly if it was in ffordd elisabeth
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2012, 01:05:06 pm
To be fair, Ffordd Elisabeth is not one of the main roads in/out of Llandudno, being used by thousands of vehicles daily.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 08, 2012, 07:02:34 pm
Dave have you been paid off by CCBC or wot.
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Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2012, 07:08:23 pm
I like to be fair about these things, Wex. A good job done should be praised!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 10, 2012, 06:48:16 pm
Some flower beds have been done in town and some not,they used to do them all at once on a Sunday but cuts must have been made or we are just last on the list,you all know my middle name is winge but even i have given up on  the pavillion,Clarence,Tudno Castle,station the new way is to ignore them all and the people elected might just notice themselves.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2012, 08:12:02 pm
They were doing the Prince Edward Square flower beds on Friday in the pouring rain.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 12, 2012, 08:23:47 am
Any info on the old Jenivore/Good Night Inn?
A huge skip full of beds outside.
Wondered if it had more new owners.
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Post by: wrex on June 12, 2012, 08:09:53 pm
Had a nice walk around tonight,planting still in progress,but CCBC parks dept have definatly stopped cutting the grass around town,the worst i saw was trinity ave playing fields,growing wild not been touched for weeks.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 12, 2012, 08:29:15 pm
Similar on Liddell Park.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 13, 2012, 11:40:01 am
I think its about time Llandudno Town council employed two gardners of their own for the summer months just to cut the grass and weed the promenade because the town is being let down big style by CCBC.I know they will say no but this town as a tourist town is at stake and as usual not a word from the hoteliers who;s buissness relys on it.
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Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2012, 02:21:53 pm
Thats a great idea, Wrex. Even one gardener employed for 30 hours a week in the Summer could make a massive difference.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 13, 2012, 10:19:39 pm
Been to see the in laws in Colwyn Bay this evening and the Cayley embankment has been cut,it stinks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 14, 2012, 12:54:34 pm
After receiving all that funding, I was surprised to notice Cafe Cais is closed on Sundays when the coach park was very busy yesterday.

.

I noticed a banner sign outside Cafe Cais this morning saying it is open 7 days a week.

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Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2012, 03:26:50 pm
The new Alice statues are being installed on their plinths around town today.
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Post by: Paddy on June 14, 2012, 05:16:34 pm
The new Alice statues are being installed on their plinths around town today.

Very impressive they look too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 14, 2012, 07:35:14 pm
Paddy when you come out of the Neville half cut and see that massive girl looking down on you,you will run a mile.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2012, 08:20:35 pm
Alice statue installation today:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2012, 08:23:22 pm
I think its about time Llandudno Town council employed two gardners of their own for the summer months just to cut the grass and weed the promenade because the town is being let down big style by CCBC.I know they will say no but this town as a tourist town is at stake and as usual not a word from the hoteliers who;s buissness relys on it.
No joking, the weeds are bigger than the remaining plants in the Prom Gardens - what an awful mess:
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Post by: Nemesis on June 15, 2012, 03:50:20 pm
Paddy when you come out of the Neville half cut and see that massive girl looking down on you,you will run a mile.
Shouldn't want to see the Queen of Hearts face on when in the same half cut situation :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 15, 2012, 04:36:20 pm
Well half the prom has been cut(craig y don)  ,not sure if they work weekends or the main end will be cut on monday but lets just see how long it takes to be done again(fri 15 june),i feel sorry for the parks dept if they have had cuts,but i hope its not a case of prioritizing other towns or Bodlondeb gardens before Llandudno prom,fact is no Llandudno county councillors are kicking up a fuss so we are left looking a mess,again.
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Post by: wrex on June 15, 2012, 06:19:04 pm
Now CCBC have started spending on Llandudno again(alice),can we have a indoor attraction please,visitors keep asking me what and where can they go in the rain, i tell them Asda.
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Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2012, 07:20:00 pm
Queen of Hearts Statue on Gloddaeth Street:
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Post by: hollins on June 15, 2012, 07:42:21 pm
Does anyone know who has made the statues?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 15, 2012, 07:51:05 pm
Lets hope they do not get damaged like the white rabbit statue!
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Post by: Nemesis on June 15, 2012, 09:11:25 pm
Does anyone know who has made the statues?

http://www.simonhedger.com/ (http://www.simonhedger.com/)
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Post by: Craigydonian on June 15, 2012, 09:16:15 pm
Weekly News article on Alice Trail: http://tinyurl.com/cxlcgwh (http://tinyurl.com/cxlcgwh)
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Post by: Yorkie on June 15, 2012, 09:42:12 pm
Link is not working!   >>>
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Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2012, 09:43:26 pm
Link is not working!   >>>
Is now!  :P
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Post by: Yorkie on June 15, 2012, 09:45:51 pm
Saved me having to invest my hard earned cash in a copy of the local rag!  Thanks!    :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 16, 2012, 07:36:41 am
Take a look at the gardens in the st Georges hotel,immaculate,why because its their job to make it attractive for their customers,take a look at the gardens opposite,uncut grass and soon weeds will be shooting between the new flowers and CCBC WILL ONLY CUT THE GRASS once a fortnight and weed it a lot less,sorry not good enought,we have tourist who look and judge,they charge them to park on the prom then spend the money elsewere,the fact that the manager;s of the hotels don;t complain and pay their buisness rates without a wimper is their lose.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 16, 2012, 09:05:43 am
It's a pity that the hotels can't withhold some of their business rates and maintain the gardens themselves?  Bring back Llandudno Urban District Council!  In the sixties when I came to Llandudno on holiday everything looked immaculate or was that rose tinted glasses?
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Post by: Llechwedd on June 16, 2012, 11:27:43 am
There are weeds growing in cracks everywhere the place looks a mess.  Didn't there used to be a man with a tank on his back going round squirting them?

  Also the grass needs cuting on the verges.  Unfortunately the men who do it have delusions of Formula 1.  They whizz around thinking they are Fangio and just flatten the grass.  Two hours later it has boinged back up again.  Why is there no one to inspect their work and ensure that they have done it properly? $angry$
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Post by: Yorkie on June 16, 2012, 11:33:04 am
I think everyone has too higher an expectation of both Conwy county council and Llandudno Town Council.

The Pig Squadron are all set to take off for their first sortie over the area, but still awaiting a worthwhile opportunity!
 Z**
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Post by: wrex on June 16, 2012, 12:26:23 pm
FOTWS WHERE ARE YOU ,I JUST DROVE ALONG THE wEST sHORE PROM, THE GRASS MUST BE A FOOT HIGH IN PLACES,NICE FOR THE 10K TOMORROW,CLASSIC NEGLECT CCBC.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 17, 2012, 11:38:15 am
OMG Anyone else tried to get anywhere in town today?
Tried to get home from a trip to Rhos-- must have used 2 galls petrol, every road was closed once you had driven up it--access only meant no access. Every driver was having to turn round at the end of the streets and go back. Even the marshalls didn't seem to know of a way across. Eventually we followed a sign for the ski slope and got to the other side of Gloddaeth.
Grrrrr
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Post by: Paddy on June 17, 2012, 12:49:22 pm
Hiya Nemesis. You were delayed by the "Llandudno 10" wich is a very popular UK event and a great attraction for the area. I watched some of the race and it seems that the route has been changed cosiderably since last year's debacle.

I actually used to compete in this event some years ago when my knees were much younger and it really is a great attraction for the town which, like the Extraganza, and many other local events, we just have to endure and accept it is for the greater good.

On the subject of road closures. With a little local knowledge and some help from the marshalls I managed to get from my home on Abbey Road to Asda in less than five minutes!
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Post by: Nemesis on June 17, 2012, 02:17:15 pm
Well done-- coming the other way to Abbey Road I think I must have encountered a thick marshall who sent us on a wild goose chase!
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Post by: wrex on June 17, 2012, 08:48:01 pm
My god what a mess the town looks at the moment with most of the grass uncut all over Llandudno,i do not blame the lads who do the work,we could blame all the rain,we must blame cuts in staffing,i just feel sorry for the buisnesses that rely on tourism because people who have been down this weekend will not give Llandudno a good name.Iwent to Southport last year and will not be rushing to return,since my last visit it had gone down and i think thats what will happen to us.
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Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2012, 09:59:09 pm
It was the Falklands Campaign Memorial Service at the Cenotaph this morning. A bit of a shame that the Service took place in the middle of the 10k Race, with runners constantly passing, restricting the room available for the service.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 18, 2012, 09:47:29 am
Seems completely wrong for two events to overlap like that, when events are arranged I assume one of the councils must look and think something needs changing here and then all will run smoothly?? It would seem that does not happen  ???   great pic!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2012, 10:02:11 am
We can also expect complaints from the cycling fraternity as their rights to freely cycle on the promenade yesterday morning were greatly affected.

We were watching by the start/finish line and one or two cyclists didn’t care two hoots about the runners and some were as young as seven or eight years of age in the supplementary one mile race. :cyclist40:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 18, 2012, 10:17:36 am
Talking of cyclists (I am one very occasionally!) we saw yet another cycle race using the A55 yesterday, I find it hard to believe that they are allowed to race on the public road let alone be allowed on the A55 which is in all but name effectively a motorway ??? 
Also one of my pet hates, along the prom from Penrhyn Bay to Rhos on Sea, a cyclist on the road riding alongside a perfectly good cycle path  $angry$
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Post by: SDQ on June 18, 2012, 10:40:43 am
They quite regularly use the A55 between St Asaph & Abergele for time trials on a Sunday morning. There's only a couple of small stretches that are governed by motorway restrictions so I guess the rest of the A55 is legal for cyclists though I would never recommend it to be honest.
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Post by: Bellringer on June 18, 2012, 01:07:31 pm
BBC1 Wales 10.35pm tonight - the "X-Ray" programme will be discussing cycling on the promenade, apparently.
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Post by: wrex on June 20, 2012, 07:40:18 am
If you get a chance have a look at the lawns on the West parade,its where you normally see people playing games,having picnics or just sunbathing,it appears CCBC and the friends of the West Shore have abandoned it,left it to wild,there are some lovely big weeds growing on there they must be 2 foot tall some of them,incredible,as for the 4 county councillors responsible for that area they all need shooting,hang your heads in shame,Miles,Hold,Howarth,Lyon.Not sure why the large piece of playing equiptment on the park has been fenced of for over 6 weeks now,but who cares anyway.
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Post by: wrex on June 21, 2012, 09:12:06 pm
I think the town council should pay for a wooden Alice themed statue for the West Shore and put the stone one in the libary builing and scrap this stupid idea of shoving it in the lake.When that lake freezes over the whole place is covered in rock of the beach defences to try and BREAK the ice,it will not be the only thing the kids would try and break.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2012, 08:17:33 am
Apart from kids (or even adults) lobbing rocks at the White Rabbit - I wonder how long it will be before the Alice (or any other) Carving will be doing a fiery impression of Joan or Arc - November the fifth maybe??   

Or possibly there will be an opportunity for an ambitious amateur sculptor to add small modifications to them, or even school kids carving their initials!   
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Post by: wrex on June 22, 2012, 08:53:29 am
every statue has a CCTV on it but wether anybody is watching it is another question.On a brighter note the grass is being cut on the West Shore right now,well done CCBC.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 22, 2012, 09:40:08 am
every statue has a CCTV on it but wether anybody is watching it is another question.


WHAT!!!  You mean that we are paying for CCTV to watch a few bloody statues?  And paying someone into the bargain?

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Post by: wrex on June 22, 2012, 09:51:24 am
Behave Yorkie you know they have;nt even illuminated these statues let alone paying to install CCTV ,they are all within existing CCTV;s range.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on June 22, 2012, 12:29:37 pm
Any one know what has happened at the Clarence end of Bodhyfrd Road. Police there all morning.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 22, 2012, 02:45:44 pm
My OH was told at 7.30am when he went for his paper that there had been a mugging. How true I don't know.
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Post by: Michael on June 23, 2012, 11:13:19 am
  Yorkie, your fears about the "Alice" statues are already coming true. Seen from a distance there appears to be one of them at the top of the grassed area in the Happy Valley. No camera around there that I know of. But three or four sixteen year old young men were intent on trying to climb on the top of it. And thats before its even completed Mike
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Post by: wrex on June 23, 2012, 11:26:29 am
Old winge bag here ,i have just been for a walk up the Happy Valley,pleasant enough,ok the grass has not been cut but we don;t expect that any more,but my little water feature isn;t working AGAIN,im gutted, its the only water feature in Llandudno and how many of the 30 councillors have been up to see it,to make sure CCBC are looking after it,i presome none.As i do i noticed the railings above the colonades are a mess then realised how much of the colonades has fallen of,loads of chunks missing,obviously they have not fallen on anybodys head or we would have heard about it,for now anyway.I pray for the day we get one councillor who seems interested in the tourism of this town and can even get ahead of Cll Evans.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 23, 2012, 01:03:05 pm
Wrex, it is possible for you to put details of your findings to the Town Clerk and request that it be included as an Agenda Item at a Council Meeting.   At least then it should be discussed.   WWW
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Post by: DaveR on June 23, 2012, 01:30:02 pm
Speaking of which, I sent an email to the Town Clerk, for the attention of the Mayor, last week. I've not yet even received a confirmation the email has been received, let alone a reply.
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Post by: Yorkie on June 23, 2012, 01:51:36 pm
Their IT system is s****e.  They have a major problem that they have yet to sort out.   Trouble is too many diffent outfits have been employed to look after the Hosting and maintenance.  :rage:
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Post by: wrex on June 24, 2012, 11:34:17 am
can anybody put up old photo;s of the town beach with sand on it,we have just walked the Alice trail with grandkids and the tide was out and i could;nt believe that there was so little sand,its a disgrace and disgusting and i have e-mailed Cll Ronny Hughes asking him to concentrate on tourism for once.
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Post by: wrex on June 24, 2012, 09:48:08 pm
How would this work,to have sponsorship for the promenade gardens,Happy vallry,Haulfre Gardens,bog island,the sponsor just has to pay one private gardener for six months,seperate sponsors for each location,the town would look brilliant for 6 months of the year,cared for and proud.
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Post by: wrex on June 24, 2012, 09:51:30 pm
Im no gardener but you see these small stations looked after by the community,my god this town needs looking after by some group.
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Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2012, 09:56:13 pm
Sponsorship is certainly worth considering as a way forward. If only we had a few proactive councillors willing to push such ideas forward, instead of just doing what the council officers tell them.
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Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2012, 10:07:10 pm
can anybody put up old photo;s of the town beach with sand on it,we have just walked the Alice trail with grandkids and the tide was out and i could;nt believe that there was so little sand,its a disgrace and disgusting and i have e-mailed Cll Ronny Hughes asking him to concentrate on tourism for once.
How it looked in the 1970s:

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 24, 2012, 10:12:51 pm
It all looked so much better back then! Where did it all go wrong? (still a lovely place in spite of the various council's efforts!)
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Post by: Fester on June 25, 2012, 12:55:00 am
Im no gardener but you see these small stations looked after by the community,my god this town needs looking after by some group.

You might be 'no gardener' ..... but you are one HELL of a decorator, and whatever you say, is fine by me!
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Post by: Quiggs on June 25, 2012, 06:25:40 pm
If you look down the beach in the photo, you will see a series of 'Groynes ', I'm convinced that these kept the sand on the foreshore, but they were allowed to deteriorate and what we have now is the result.   &shake&
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Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2012, 10:37:01 pm
New Floral Clock under construction:
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Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2012, 10:39:13 pm
I dedicate the following photograph to Wrex:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 26, 2012, 10:40:19 pm
How long before its filled in again, like the LLANDUDNO letters in Happy Valley?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 26, 2012, 10:43:15 pm
I dedicate the following photograph to Wrex:

No doubt sales of buckets and spades are down recently!  Such a sad sight compared to years ago!  :(
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Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2012, 10:47:27 pm
How long before its filled in again, like the LLANDUDNO letters in Happy Valley?
That's a good point. How can money be found for things like this, when existing features are left uncared for?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 26, 2012, 10:51:59 pm
Exactly, no doubt it's some different budget, but it all comes from us in the first place! They should maintain what is already there before building new features which next year we will be discussing in the eyesores section, I hope I'm wrong!
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Post by: wrex on June 27, 2012, 07:26:22 am
I  have heard that CCBC have promised to cut the grass,weed the flower beds,weed the beach,remove the stones of the beach again next month.
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Post by: mull on June 27, 2012, 08:39:50 am
Perhaps our wild flower experts could name the weeds.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 27, 2012, 11:12:50 am
If they are 'weeded' like has been done round the trees in town it will look worse than ever. Weed killer is sprayed, the weeds die and there they lie, brown and shrivelled.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2012, 01:40:50 pm
That was some downpour before, I had to walk in the road though Craig Y Don as the pavements were under several inches of water, even going into people's gardens. That's what happens when the drains don't get cleared out on a regular basis.  How often do you see the gully cleaner lorry these days? &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on June 28, 2012, 05:49:31 pm
Can anyone tell me why the council salt spreader lorry was up gritting  Ty Gwn and Llwynon Roads just before the deluge this morning. The result is however now plain to see there is sand and grit all over the roads and some cars are losing grip on it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 28, 2012, 05:55:11 pm
I was told that quite a large area of the roof at Macdonalds fell in during the storm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2012, 06:21:06 pm
That was some downpour before, I had to walk in the road though Craig Y Don as the pavements were under several inches of water, even going into people's gardens. That's what happens when the drains don't get cleared out on a regular basis.  How often do you see the gully cleaner lorry these days? &shake&
I took a pic!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 28, 2012, 06:23:16 pm
Once again, a large section of the Swimming Pool/Theatre car park was underwater - there's been a problem with the drains ever since it was built but its never been dealt with. Photo taken 3+ hours after the rain had stopped.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2012, 08:49:34 pm
The LLANDUDNO flowerbed up in Happy Valley - once a well loved feature of the town, it is now an embarrassment...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 30, 2012, 09:12:11 pm
   This is more or less the spot where I saw some yobs trying to climb up some statue or something around a week or so ago. Is your photo recent Dave?   Or is some development now underway (yobs excluded)  Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2012, 09:26:36 pm
Well, the new Alice Reading Chair has been fenced off - maybe its been damaged by vandals? I did have a look and one toadstool appears to have been uprooted:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 30, 2012, 10:32:19 pm
  yes, thats it. I only spotted it from a distance and could not make out what it was. But I could spot vandals, if even from a distance.

   So, why didnt I do anything about stopping whatever they were up to? Well I have never in all my life dodged a confrontation but I suppose as you get older, you do weigh up the odds before going in 3 or 4 to l.   

  But, really, its the realisation that this is going to happen. I know that if I put mushrooms on my golf course ---- the next morning, misery at the scene.   The same applies to the Happy Valley.

   I cannot believe that the Council are not aware of this risk.   What we all do about it, I hav'ent got a clue.   Mike


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 01, 2012, 12:44:49 am
A few years ago, I mentioned to 'He who knows everything in Llandudno' that I fancied building a crazy golf course in the Happy Valley / Headlands Hotel area.

''He who knows everything'', advised me at the time that it was a non-starter as it would have been very quickly vandalised.

I could hardly believe that, surely not .....  but it seems that he was correct, and it would have been an expensive failure.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on July 01, 2012, 12:48:30 am
Isn't there a putting green at that location or has it been consigned to the history books?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2012, 08:26:35 am
Vandalism is actually pretty rare in Happy Valley, especially when considering the lack of lighting/cctv up there. The cafe/cable car/camera obscura all seem to operate without too many problems.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 01, 2012, 08:57:20 am
Isn't there a putting green at that location or has it been consigned to the history books?

Yes the green is still there I walked along the edge of it a couple of days ago, but I haven't seehn it in operation this season--Yet.
I am surprised that the reading chair has remained intact for as long as it has, it looked somewhat vulnerable to me.
Talking of fencing --what is the second lot of fenced area near the cenotaph and the new "Pocket Watch" going to be used for? anyone know?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 01, 2012, 09:28:39 am
Its CCBC new ploy,fence all grassed areas off then they don;t have too cut the grass once a fortnight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 01, 2012, 09:55:00 am
Some flower beds outside CCBC prestigeous Venue Cymru have been left empty except for weeds,im not sure if the management have bothered to report this to the parks dept or wether the parks dept have forgotten too put flowers in the beds but what ever has happened its a bloody mess,they had some BT thing going on there last week so i don;t know how many visitors have seen this and gone home telling everybody what a wonderfully kept place Llandudno is.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 01, 2012, 02:01:30 pm
What about a protest to coincide with the civic Sunday parade at the cenotaph,the state of the beach by the cenotaph is a disgrace for a major seaside resort and to think the town councillors will be stood yards from the mess celebrating themselves,if we had banners in the back ground bringing too their attention about the filth behind them,what do you think ,action for once.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 01, 2012, 04:07:28 pm
I'm with you on this.   It is time for action, civic Sunday costs a small fortune as it is and the lavish lunch complete with lashings of wine should be discontinued.  Or the Councillors should pay for it themselves.

Get organising Wrex or shall we have a War Cabinet Meeting to discuss tactics first?  >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 01, 2012, 04:40:25 pm
We should either protest or have a beach clean up at the same time the councillors are standing at the cenotaph,why should they get away with ignoring problems about their town,when is Civic Sunday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2012, 04:54:36 pm
Isn't there a putting green at that location or has it been consigned to the history books?

Yes the green is still there I walked along the edge of it a couple of days ago, but I haven't seehn it in operation this season--Yet.
I am surprised that the reading chair has remained intact for as long as it has, it looked somewhat vulnerable to me.
Talking of fencing --what is the second lot of fenced area near the cenotaph and the new "Pocket Watch" going to be used for? anyone know?
The good news is that the Alice Chair has not been vandalised, it just needs a bit of work that was not carried out when it was first installed.

The Pocket Watch is going to be a Floral Clock, like the one that was in Haulfre gardens many years ago.

The second fenced off area - I see a power supply is being installed - I will make enquiries!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 01, 2012, 05:04:23 pm
A very good and interested crowd this afternoon on the prom to view the prize giving of the Gott and Winn Classic Car Rally. Some great cars there too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2012, 05:32:52 pm
A very good and interested crowd this afternoon on the prom to view the prize giving of the Gott and Winn Classic Car Rally. Some great cars there too.

I didn't have time to see it, did you get any pictures at all?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on July 01, 2012, 07:58:48 pm

I didn't have time to see it


D'oh! I was looking forward to you posting a few pics as usual.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 01, 2012, 08:15:11 pm
Will these do?
The quality isn't brill,I have bought a new camera and I think I should have had my specs with me to set it properly ! ;D

The first one is a newer model than ours (Rover) and the second one is older. The Yellow 'beast' is a Model A Ford and the maroon one a Ford Prefect
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2012, 08:54:18 pm
Sorry SDQ, we were busy building an aviary!

Nemesis, thanks, at least I can see some of the cars!  $cool$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on July 01, 2012, 09:51:35 pm
nice photos Nem. last one made me smile,  notice the attire of the 3 blokes, so much for flaming June.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on July 01, 2012, 09:59:12 pm
ok i know its July.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 02, 2012, 08:12:03 am
Thing was yesterday afternoon I went down to the prom in a fleece, but ended up carrying it-- those blokes must have been sweating cobs !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2012, 10:13:31 am
Talking of fencing --what is the second lot of fenced area near the cenotaph and the new "Pocket Watch" going to be used for? anyone know?
The second fenced off area - I see a power supply is being installed - I will make enquiries!
The second fenced area is just to install the power supply that will run the Floral Clock.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 02, 2012, 10:16:09 pm
had a nice walk this evening along the prom,very busy so i;ve come to the conclusion there is no need to weed the flower beds ,cut the grass or clean the beach as it is not needed,the fact that i think the place looks shabby is just my view,30 councillors can;t be wrong or our COUNTY COUNCILLORS ,YET soon the bloom squad will be out getting ready for the judges and all of a sudden everybody wants too weed, cut grass ,MAYBE even clean the beach,i would love to drive the judges around,my route.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 03, 2012, 08:41:48 pm
At last an explanation for the dire flower beds and uncut grass,Oscar has revealed that there are new people in charge of the parks dept,great shame for Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2012, 11:08:45 am
Good news from Twitter, Wrex:

Judith Phillips ‏@WeeklyNewsJude
Llandudno North Shore clean up on its way. See tomorrow's North Wales Weekly News.

 $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 04, 2012, 09:44:46 pm
I think the creation of the Floral Clock is an excellent thing, but its such a terrible decision to do the excavating work IN JULY!!

The promenade near the cenotaph looks like a building site, which in effect it is, and the overwhelming impression for visitors to Llandudno is not good in the middle of the tourist season.   Lets hope it is completed VERY quickly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2012, 10:28:48 pm
I think the creation of the Floral Clock is an excellent thing, but its such a terrible decision to do the excavating work IN JULY!!

The promenade near the cenotaph looks like a building site, which in effect it is, and the overwhelming impression for visitors to Llandudno is not good in the middle of the tourist season.   Lets hope it is completed VERY quickly.
I was actually thinking the same today when I went past. All of the grass has been badly churned up and there are several deep ruts where the excavator has been working. Still, will be great when its finished...just hope they can afford some flowers to put in it...  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 05, 2012, 07:29:34 am
I had a look yesterday and I think it's just a BIG WIND UP!    _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 05, 2012, 08:44:15 am
Saw this comment on Oscar...

"Amazing but true !
An ex council gardener was employed to tidy someone's garden .

Some of the seasonal bulbs and pernnials had finished flowering and there wasa few weeds in the borders

The owner of the garden went out shopping and left the gardener to get on with the job

He started work and promtly removing ALL the plants, bulbs and weeds , leaving totaly barren borders.

All the plants etc had been "binned"

When the owners returned to the proprty,
The gardener ask "Did they get any plants from the shops?"
The owners of the garden were none to please to find most of their garden void of plants and asked the gardener what was he doing?

The gardener explained that as a ex council gardener. It was common practice for the council to remove all the plants etc and replace with new ones !"

 &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 05, 2012, 09:44:57 am
I think the creation of the Floral Clock is an excellent thing, but its such a terrible decision to do the excavating work IN JULY!!

The promenade near the cenotaph looks like a building site, which in effect it is, and the overwhelming impression for visitors to Llandudno is not good in the middle of the tourist season.   Lets hope it is completed VERY quickly.

Some hope. Is anything ever done quickly?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 05, 2012, 12:50:09 pm
http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/07/05/llandudno-s-north-shore-gets-clean-up-in-bid-to-get-blue-flag-status-back-55243-31324712/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/07/05/llandudno-s-north-shore-gets-clean-up-in-bid-to-get-blue-flag-status-back-55243-31324712/)

Good news for the state of the North Shore Beach
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 05, 2012, 05:32:33 pm
Walked along there last nite and i can;t say the beach looked any different ,considering it has been dragged to remove stones.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 05, 2012, 05:39:59 pm
and ive just driven past Venue Cymru and the weeds and the long grass are looking splendid,i can;t think what CCBC are playing at,ok there are no shows on so that is no excuse to leave the place looking so disgusting.If you take a look at the flower beds outside the Arena entrance,they have been left with a few winter pansies in and have nearly dissapeared,they are supposed to be star shaped i think.As we have read today CCBC are shedding 66 jobs,looks like the whole of the parks dept have gone already,long live the weeds.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2012, 11:11:58 am
Llandudno may look like this later today if the rain keeps up!

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2012, 12:02:17 pm
Be warned that there is currently heavy flooding outside Ysgol John Bright on Maesdu Road:

https://twitter.com/jonathenharty/status/221191553824210944/photo/1/large
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 06, 2012, 12:25:24 pm
I noticed they cleared the barriers today off the prom,not bad nearly two weeks after the triathlon,did;nt notice Cll Janet Howarth down there over seeing the clean up,yet there was no clean up going on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 06, 2012, 01:48:44 pm
I noticed the barriers as well.

They had been left for so long I was beginning to think they were being left for a purpose.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2012, 02:21:16 pm
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Be warned that there is currently heavy flooding outside Ysgol John Bright on Maesdu Road:

But you get this...

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@jonathenharty's account is protected.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 06, 2012, 02:25:36 pm
Mmmm so did I-- and I am not turning out again to go and view any more water. I encountered enough braving Asda this morning. ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2012, 07:48:31 pm
Demolition work on Plas Y Dre is continuing (photo taken yesterday!)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2012, 08:16:20 pm
Flooding along Mostyn St this afternoon. This happens every time there is heavy rain, purely because the street drains are blocked. There are also numerous similar problems all over town. When will the Llandudno Councillors start raising these issues with Council Officers?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on July 06, 2012, 08:34:59 pm
Not enough to have a swim though David!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2012, 08:37:51 pm
Not enough to have a swim though David!!
Indeed, Stan.  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 06, 2012, 09:00:07 pm
Even if it was deep enough to swim in, I fear that CCBC would have booked some kind of gala to prevent me using it.   :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 06, 2012, 09:16:23 pm
Even if it was deep enough to swim in, I fear that CCBC would have booked some kind of gala to prevent me using it.   :laugh:


$smack$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2012, 09:23:09 pm
Even if it was deep enough to swim in, I fear that CCBC would have booked some kind of gala to prevent me using it.   :laugh:
That's quite funny for you!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 06, 2012, 10:48:15 pm
Im sure the outdoor pool in THE Venue Cymru car park was full today. ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 08, 2012, 12:26:32 am
How heartening it was to see Llandudno bars and pubs so busy tonight.

Here (hopefully) is a picture of the revellers outside The London, Upper Mostyn St at 10pm tonight.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 08, 2012, 05:55:40 pm
In spite of the rain, the pulling of the DC9 along the prom to Venue Cymru, led by the Captain and his Trolley Dollies,  was a great event with a big crowd in attendance..

www.adainavion.org (http://www.adainavion.org)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 08, 2012, 08:47:05 pm
Nice to see Ringo Starr is keeping active  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 08, 2012, 08:52:42 pm
What a shame nobody told CCBC that this was going on on the prom,they might of cut the grass, weeded the flower beds and removed the barriers from 2 weeks ago,what a shamew.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 09, 2012, 08:47:53 am
From Llandudno Lifeboat Facebook Page:

ELDERLY VISITOR RECOVERED TO SAFETY AFTER BEACH FALL

Llandudno's RNLI inshore lifeboat, an RAF Valley rescue helicopter and coastguards were sent to Angel Bay on Llandudno's Little Orme shortly after 9 p.m. last night (Sunday) to assist an 82 year-old man who had slipped and fallen whilst on the beach.

In the event the low tide conditions allowed the 22 Squadron Sea King to land on the shore nearby, with the lifeboat standing by just offshore, available if needed. After the aircrew had assessed the casualty's condition he was helped into the aircraft which then transferred him from the beach to a level area higher on the Orme, where he was passed into the care of coastguards.

It is understood that they in turn arranged for him to be checked over by an ambulance crew before taking him back to the local caravan park where he was staying.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Llandudno-Lifeboat/206077612742085 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Llandudno-Lifeboat/206077612742085)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 09, 2012, 09:48:26 am
Poor chap-- he must have felt confident to tackle that path. It never appeals to me, even in dry weather !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 09, 2012, 03:13:15 pm
In spite of the rain, the pulling of the DC9 along the prom to Venue Cymru, led by the Captain and his Trolley Dollies,  was a great event with a big crowd in attendance..

www.adainavion.org (http://www.adainavion.org)

 $cool$

We had a quick look this morning, interesting to see a 'naked' plane, it all looks so fragile like that! The plane has a see through floor which is very odd to walk on!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN2239.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN2243.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN2246.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN2249.jpg)

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN2252.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 09, 2012, 09:21:28 pm
Looking today at the ever growing grass and the weeds actually taking over the flower beds i think its time i took a break just like Oscar,althought i have tried to motivate disscussion on the state of the town i think i might be getting on peoples nerves so i will take a break of my  own and see if my absence encourages people to come back, i can only think that a lot of councillors used to post on here and are sick of my constant moaning off them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 09, 2012, 09:50:12 pm
Wrex, keep it up, I suspect lack of money is the problem!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on July 09, 2012, 10:36:21 pm
don,t give up wrex you may be a moaner but not without reason, I'm not a council lover but i do believe the weather conditions are a lot to do with the state of the weed beds, the forum would not be the same without  a wrex  whinge now and again
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 10, 2012, 10:13:08 am
I notice a well-known local reporter has today in the Daily Post given due prominence to wrex's complaints so maybe wrex may consider thanking the young lady in due course. 


Poor chap-- he must have felt confident to tackle that path. It never appeals to me, even in dry weather !

I wonder if this was the same gentleman who was wearing 'dancing shoes' according to the local newspaper.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 10, 2012, 12:14:52 pm



Poor chap-- he must have felt confident to tackle that path. It never appeals to me, even in dry weather !

I wonder if this was the same gentleman who was wearing 'dancing shoes' according to the local newspaper.
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It sounds like the same one-- no wonder he slipped !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 10, 2012, 01:53:13 pm

I wonder if this was the same gentleman who was wearing 'dancing shoes' according to the local newspaper.

It sounds like the same one-- no wonder he slipped !
[/quote]

"Patently" obvious, I would have thought!    L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 10, 2012, 02:55:52 pm
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2012, 09:54:19 am
The Council Gardeners were out in force yesterday along the Prom and working on various roundabouts. Have Wrex's moanings done the trick?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 11, 2012, 10:25:47 am
Has work on the new floral clock come to a stop?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 11, 2012, 10:32:54 am
We wondered that-- nothing seems to have been done this week. Perhaps they haven't got time !  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2012, 11:17:54 am
Waiting for the concrete to set, I imagine - tricky with all this rain recently.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2012, 08:57:43 pm
Someone at CCBC has certainly moved into 'ass kicking mode', as there were gardeners all over town again today, working at North Western Gardens, Promenade Gardens and Carlton roundabout. About time as well!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on July 11, 2012, 10:46:35 pm
So the little garden in Gyffin will still have to await attention then!  Gyffin is on the outskirts of Conwy BTW in case CCBC have forgotten.

Blodyn might well be pleased as there is a lovely crop of clover which the bees are obviously finding attractive.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 12, 2012, 08:37:48 am
The Council Gardeners were out in force yesterday along the Prom and working on various roundabouts. Have Wrex's moanings done the trick?

More like the Britain in Bloom Judges are about to descend on the Town and 12 months work has to be condensed into a couple of days so that they are suitably impressed!   The Town doesn't deserve to win a bucket full of horse sh**e manure let alone a National accolade.   :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 15, 2012, 09:43:36 am
Well as i thought Scarborough parks dept seem to look after their parks,even saw a councillor worker weeding on a Saturday.My overall view of Scar borough is that although it looks like Blackpool  and they have not looked after their builing(conservation wise) it does have a good selection of shops,the beach was fantastic and although we did not get there till 12 you could see where the beach had been dragged and the place was very busy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 15, 2012, 04:51:49 pm
Having just taken a walk down the prom i was expecting to see big changes after Cll Janet Howarth big piece in the local press over two weeka agowell i must be honest apart from the grass getting cut the beach looks worse now than when she started her clean Llandudno North beach campaign,i just can;t believe we had CCBC,David Williams,harbour master all in attendance over two weeks ago and nothing has been done,what a waste of time and money.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on July 16, 2012, 09:06:44 am
Funnily enough, the subject of Scarborough came up the other day with a couple of colleagues of mine, who both happen to be from Yorkshire.

I mentioned that I had never been there, but imagined it must be rather like Llandudno (i.e. a traditional Victorian seaside resort). They looked at me like I was crazy and said that it was basically a mix of Rhyl and Colwyn Bay and that Llandudno was a thousand times nicer. One of them also said that it wasn't so much the the town itself (as bad as it was), but that it's notorious for the people it attracts (apparently it's known across Yorkshire for the same kind of people who go to Rhyl round here).

I don't know as I've never been but they were two people, independent of one another, who agreed on it.

I guess nowhere's perfect, but Llandudno could be a lot worse!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 16, 2012, 12:16:11 pm
What Scarborough did have was a beautiful beach,cleaned everyday and well looked after,why CCBC cannot keep a small beach like the town beach is beyond me,there is noway the beach should be as scruffy and dirty as ours,for godsake somebody in authority has to have some pride in Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 16, 2012, 12:54:43 pm
The beach in Rhos by the breakwater seems to get cleaned/raked by a machine every week.
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Post by: wrex on July 16, 2012, 05:55:14 pm
Dave you are such a bad lad
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Post by: DaveR on July 16, 2012, 06:40:18 pm
Got a photo of it for you as well, Wrex:
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Post by: Yorkie on July 16, 2012, 06:44:18 pm
The beach in Rhos by the breakwater seems to get cleaned/raked by a machine every week.

What we want is a bit of the "Rake's Progress" towards Llandudno!    L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 16, 2012, 09:19:45 pm
Rumour has it that this was Wrex staging his one man protest at Venue Cymru about the state of the beach...
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Post by: snowcap on July 16, 2012, 09:33:17 pm
nice one Dave lol
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Post by: Ian48 on July 17, 2012, 06:41:42 am
Just seen the census population figures and they're quite interesting.

Conwy is the fastest growing county in North Wales, with a population increase of 5% (or 5,500 people) over the last 10 years. Surprisingly Denbighshire only grew by 600 people (perhaps due to undercounting or maybe those large developments on the outskirts of Rhyl and Prestatyn are being offset by declining populations in those parts of Rhyl that are being redeveloped).

Anyway, I suppose that this will mean that the Council might be forced to go for the higher housing number in the local plan. It's clear people want to live here, so I guess we have to face that. Certainly, I don't think we can't bury our heads in the sand and say we aren't developing anywhere at all as some councillors seem to think is possible.
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Post by: dwsi on July 17, 2012, 08:43:47 am
This is what the blogger Jac o' the North has to say about the situation in the County of Conwy

http://jacothenorth.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/census-2011.html (http://jacothenorth.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/census-2011.html)
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Post by: DaveR on July 17, 2012, 10:21:05 am
The problem is that by simply building more and more houses, you will lose everything that makes the area an attractive place to live.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 17, 2012, 01:06:38 pm
17/07/12 - Another great year of Green Flags in Conwy

Ten sites in Conwy County have scooped prestigious Green Flag Awards this year.

Wynn Gardens in Old Colwyn; Happy Valley Gardens in Llandudno; Bodlondeb in Conwy; Queens Gardens in Colwyn Bay;  Cae Derw in Llandudno Junction; Pentremawr Park in Abergele; Llanrhos lawn cemetery and the Great Orme Country Park & Local Nature Reserve have all retained the green flag status this year.   

And this year Bryn Euryn Local Nature Reserve/Tan y Bryn Allotments has also gained green flag status.

In addition, the Fairy Glen Local Nature Reserve in Old Colwyn has again received the Community Green Flag, reflecting the input of the Old Colwyn Environmental Federation.

The Green Flag Award is the national standard for parks and green spaces in England and Wales.

The award scheme began in 1996 as a means of recognising and rewarding the best green spaces in the country.  It was also seen as a way of encouraging others to achieve the same high environmental standards, creating a benchmark of excellence in recreational green areas.

Conwy's Cabinet Member for Environment, Cllr Dave Cowans said, "These accolades are a testament to all the hard work by parks staff, countryside wardens, local community groups and residents.  We're really pleased to have retained our existing green flags, as well as adding Bryn Euryn and Tan y Bryn to the list."

"Well done and thank you to everyone that put so much hard work into achieving these awards."

Notes

The awards will be presented by the Minister for the Environment & Sustainable Development, John Griffiths AM at a ceremony at the Royal Welsh Show on 23 July 2012.


 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 17, 2012, 06:36:13 pm
They seem to be dismantling the old Gulf oil yard opposite the football ground,i wonder if this could be the Arriva Wales depot some where talking about.
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Post by: SDQ on July 17, 2012, 06:43:26 pm
The oil yard has been bought by Alpine Travel according to one of their drivers. I hear Arriva are going next door in the old Biltons garage.
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Post by: wrex on July 20, 2012, 06:56:49 am
 $walesflag$ I have been busy this week so i have not been down to see if there are any changes to the dirty beach,obviously we can all see the grass has not been re-cut and it will be interesting to see how long they leave it this time.
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Post by: wrex on July 24, 2012, 12:10:50 pm
Civic Sunday tis week, so all 30 councillors a few county cll and the chief of CCBC should all be standing on the prom Sunday morning,now will the weeds be there,will the grass have been cut,will the Floral clock still look like a building site,who knows but the one thing i do know is the beach will still resemble the moon.This is the last time i will go on about the parks dept now as we only have a couple of months of the main season left and have been let down badly.
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Post by: wrex on July 24, 2012, 08:01:06 pm
Make sure you are on the prom Sunday to bow too our councillors,they deserve it,we voted for them,they must be doing a fantastic job,giving up all their spare time to look after our town,Llandudno salutes your brilliance.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2012, 08:41:12 pm
Wrex, I didn't know you could be so facetious.   To do a five or ten minute march to qualify for the bun fight at the George (unless they have changed the venue) is not a lot to do.  Plenty of grub and plenty of vino, and as usual we're the mugs who are paying for it!    WWW

I notice that on the Town Council web site they are asking EU permission to place cookies on your PC, laptop or whatever.  With all their problems at present existing I urge you to REFUSE TO ACCEPT COOKIES from them.   They have had over 10 weeks to sort out an SPF problem, even resorting to employing (or so they said), IT specialists, but so far the problem is no where being solved.   >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 25, 2012, 08:54:41 pm
Apparently the reason they do not cut the grass anymore is they have no money,im at the Erias parc olympic thing on Friday we will see if that has been maintained.How long does the concrete need on the new floral clock.
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Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2012, 10:18:01 pm
Apparently the Floral Clock contractors have gone on holiday for 2 weeks, so it will not be finished until the end of August.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 25, 2012, 10:44:41 pm
Great planning that! finished in time for the end of the main holiday period  ???  I wonder what bedding plants they can get for it?  This should have been started much earlier in the year but I suppose the funding was not in place?  years ago I can't recall coming to Llandudno on holiday and seeing half finished jobs at this time of year, whatever must visitors think?
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Post by: wrex on July 25, 2012, 10:51:13 pm
I just hope that somebody takes a picture of the civic party standing at the Cenotaph with the uncut grass and the builders yard in the background.
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Post by: Fester on July 26, 2012, 12:39:02 am
Apparently the Floral Clock contractors have gone on holiday for 2 weeks, so it will not be finished until the end of August.

If that wasn't so serious it would be hilarious.
Surely some of these construction contracts must be tied in to some kind of completion date?
Does everyone at this construction firm take their holidays at the same time??   What kind of business is this?

 &shake& &shake& &shake& &shake& &shake& &shake& &shake& &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 26, 2012, 09:05:44 am
Apparently the Floral Clock contractors have gone on holiday for 2 weeks, so it will not be finished until the end of August.

Too much time on their hands!   It's just a wind up!   Let's face it, it's just numbers to some people!
Must find the right balance somewhere, but it escapes me.   They'll spring into action when the alarm sounds.   ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on July 26, 2012, 07:43:45 pm
Is it me or does the clock appear to face the road and not the Promenade?
It is risky enough anyway turning into the Prom with the cars illegally parked there on occasions without someone slowing down even more to gaze at the clock.
The positioning of the Alice statues are the same, anyone taking photos of them has to stand in the road to do it.
Tosh             
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 26, 2012, 08:04:54 pm
I caught Bri and his beloved taking a stroll along the prom this evening admiring the beautifully kept lawns and the weed free flower beds, they are a credit to CCBC and the Town council,such pride in their town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blodyn on July 27, 2012, 10:52:55 am
Not quite "right now" but amidst all the doom and gloom there was a bit of sunshine yesterday evening.  Let's not forget that, despite all the problems that have recently been highlighted here, we live in a very beautiful place. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 27, 2012, 11:01:24 am
I caught Bri and his beloved taking a stroll along the prom this evening admiring the beautifully kept lawns and the weed free flower beds, they are a credit to CCBC and the Town council,such pride in their town.

It was quite tidy near the Cenotaph, wrex, except for the abandoned floral clock. 

We certainly enjoyed the Poppy Garden.

We had only just left Fester who was still working after 6.30pm.  :o
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Post by: Ludo on July 27, 2012, 12:20:12 pm
Not quite "right now" but amidst all the doom and gloom there was a bit of sunshine yesterday evening.  Let's not forget that, despite all the problems that have recently been highlighted here, we live in a very beautiful place.

What a beautiful image Blodyn!!  $good$

Thanks so much for posting it. I have the same view (from lower down on the Marine Drive) as my desktop image at the moment, but mine is a very moody photo with a heavy, dark ominous sky - it sorted well with my mood at the time I took it earlier this year. But your picture is a much more accurate analogue of my general demeanour these days. It is a real pleasure to see it!  $thanx$ 
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Post by: snowcap on July 27, 2012, 02:14:10 pm
it looks far better than the afternoon, we were down on the west shore beach with the grandchildren Anglsey  and Conway were nowere to be seen, a chilly breeze meant the coat was kept on but at least it was,nt raining, look at it now sunshine all around, don't you just love the British weather.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 27, 2012, 03:03:59 pm
A fantastic pic Blodyn. much appreciated.
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Post by: Blodyn on July 27, 2012, 08:33:47 pm
Thanks, Ludo and Nemesis.  With such a wonderful view it's not hard to get a good picture.  It's my favourite view and I've got rather a lot of photos of it, in all sorts of weather.  I'm glad you're now feeling more sunny, Ludo.

Snowcap, I know what you mean about the weather.  When I set out on my walk I was wearing a waterproof jacket, then decided I'd better take overtrousers and a hat as well,  then I ended up carrying everything - which was of course better than needing to wear them!
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Post by: Fester on July 27, 2012, 11:27:46 pm
I caught Bri and his beloved taking a stroll along the prom this evening admiring the beautifully kept lawns and the weed free flower beds, they are a credit to CCBC and the Town council,such pride in their town.

It was quite tidy near the Cenotaph, wrex, except for the abandoned floral clock. 

We certainly enjoyed the Poppy Garden.

We had only just left Fester who was still working after 6.30pm.  :o

....If you call what I do 'Work', Bri.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 28, 2012, 07:43:06 am
Bri are you a secret councillor because you seem to have the same spectacles on as them,to say the flower beds and the lawns looked tidy is beyond me,even with the BIG civic parade on there tomorrow CCBC can;t find anyone too look after the gardens,that grass has not been cut for 3 weeks at least and will only get done when the bloom judges are here,what a shame they tell the council when they are attending or maybe they have seen sense and not entered.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 28, 2012, 08:49:38 am
to say the flower beds and the lawns looked tidy is beyond me 

Where did I say that?
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Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2012, 11:08:23 am

Where did I say that?

I caught Bri and his beloved taking a stroll along the prom this evening admiring the beautifully kept lawns and the weed free flower beds, they are a credit to CCBC and the Town council,such pride in their town.

I think Wrex said it himself!     L0L
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Post by: wrex on July 28, 2012, 11:18:56 am
Sorry Bri,it was your comment that it looked tidy around the cenotaph made me think you thought the gardens were exceptable,anyway it made Yorkie laught.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 28, 2012, 12:22:48 pm
Your apology is accepted, wrex.

When you saw us walk past the Cenotaph on Thursday evening we were walking along the promenade back towards the car and admiring the beauty of the scenery as we always do.

The Cenotaph looked tidy to us and the small memorial garden next to it was also well kept.

What exists the other side of the promenade seating does not bother us because we rarely look that way.

BTW, did you enjoy the concert last night?
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Post by: wrex on July 28, 2012, 03:32:49 pm
Yes it was good,nice to see where all the money from the parks dept has gone,but it is a good venue and it will be interesting to see how they cope with 15,000 people tonite,they coped ok with the rugby but that is a third of what they will have tonite,i always park on the prom and walk up,so i have no idea what it is like on the main rd.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 28, 2012, 11:05:28 pm
If you thought last night was good well I can tell you tonight’s concert was fantastic.

Parc Eirias was rocking !!  $good$

After tonight’s success, I would think CCBC will seriously consider staging another ‘Access All Eirias’ in 2013.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 29, 2012, 09:05:49 am
According to Cllr Weyman, the event was nothing to do with CCBC, it was put on by an independent promoter. Having seen all the CCBC logos around the site/stage, I find that difficult to believe, to be honest.
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Post by: wrex on July 29, 2012, 09:34:08 am
Get those camara;s on the prom,i want pictures of the beach,weeds,lawns and of course all 30 councillors.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 29, 2012, 10:44:11 am
I think it may well Rain on their Parade!     _))*
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Post by: SDQ on July 29, 2012, 12:33:43 pm
According to Cllr Weyman, the event was nothing to do with CCBC, it was put on by an independent promoter. Having seen all the CCBC logos around the site/stage, I find that difficult to believe, to be honest.


Were the CCBC logos there because the stage was used the previous night for the screening of the Olympic opening ceremony perhaps?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 29, 2012, 12:41:35 pm
Here is the website:

http://www.accessalleirias.co.uk/en/ (http://www.accessalleirias.co.uk/en/)







Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 29, 2012, 03:18:23 pm
What was the name of the derelict hotel in Mostyn Street that had the fire, was it the Castle Hotel
" Fire at Mostyn Street hotel, Llandudno, blamed on arson
A fire at a derelict hotel in Llandudno, Conwy county, was started deliberately, says North Wales Fire and Rescue Service.
Firefighters were called to the property in Mostyn Street at about 02:15 BST on Saturday.
Three fire crews - two from Llandudno and one from Conwy - attended the incident.
A fire service spokeswoman said the blaze was arson and was confined to one room on the ground floor"
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Post by: Nemesis on July 29, 2012, 03:26:47 pm
I saw that Hugo-- could it be any other than the Castle? The Clarence is the only other derelict hotel and that isn't on Mostyn St. The Fire Service web site isn't up to date ! So no help there.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 29, 2012, 04:29:29 pm
I can only think of the Tudno Castle Hotel.

However, the front door is in Vaughan Street and its sides are in Conway Road and Mostyn Broadway.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 29, 2012, 05:23:56 pm
Here is the website:

http://www.accessalleirias.co.uk/en/ (http://www.accessalleirias.co.uk/en/)
"Orchard Entertainment, in partnership with Conwy County Borough Council, are delighted to announce that multi-platinum selling artist Olly Murs will headline the inaugural ‘Access All Eirias’ event, at Eirias Stadium in Colwyn Bay, on Saturday 28th of July 2012."

I wonder what the nature of the 'partnership' is?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on July 29, 2012, 05:26:28 pm
The fire was at Tudno Castle, the correct address is Vaughan Street.

By the way should concerts at Eirias Park be on this bit ?
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Post by: born2run on July 29, 2012, 06:16:58 pm
Is this the !What's Llandudno & Olly Murs like right now thread"?  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 29, 2012, 06:24:36 pm
Pardon my ignorance but who is Olly Murs when she's alive?   :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 29, 2012, 07:16:41 pm
HE is a popular karaoke singer from the TV. who played in Colwyn Bay yesterday to a few thousand kids and thus proving that very occasionally the powers that be can put something good on for the young people.
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Post by: Fester on July 29, 2012, 09:48:36 pm
Pardon my ignorance but who is Olly Murs when she's alive?   :(

He was a finalist in The X Factor a couple of years back... he's quite a jaunty young chap, and probably a B-list celebrity in UK terms.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 29, 2012, 10:12:56 pm
If it is the Castle Hotel perhaps CCBC will make Mostyn Estates update their security on the building and also get this eyesore sorted out quickly.     :roll:
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Post by: Nemesis on July 30, 2012, 11:58:18 am
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/)
It is !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 30, 2012, 04:52:16 pm
Workmen from Mostyn Estates have been busy boarding up windows and doors in the Tudno Castle Hotel today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 30, 2012, 04:54:49 pm
There are traffic lights on Upper Mostyn St and a very deep hole in the road - is this planned maintenance or an old mine shaft opened up again?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 30, 2012, 05:36:17 pm
All I know is that two men from the Council are looking into it!     _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 31, 2012, 05:42:25 pm
I read on Oscar that someone is blaming the state of Llandudno beach on geology,so CCBC are not capable of clearing a few stones and seaweed because of the geology of Llandudno,only a councillor could have come up with that one.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 31, 2012, 06:34:22 pm
I just saw on the local ITV news that the tramway is 110 years old, they kept that quiet! 
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Post by: DaveR on July 31, 2012, 07:33:21 pm
There are traffic lights on Upper Mostyn St and a very deep hole in the road - is this planned maintenance or an old mine shaft opened up again?
I had a look down the hole this evening, it's a collapsed Victorian sewer.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on July 31, 2012, 08:29:16 pm
There are traffic lights on Upper Mostyn St and a very deep hole in the road - is this planned maintenance or an old mine shaft opened up again?
I had a look down the hole this evening, it's a collapsed Victorian sewer.
I do hope they don't plug it up with concrete like happened to the Victorian storm drain under North Parade. The problem appears to be solved right up to the next heavy rain  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 31, 2012, 08:38:44 pm
I just saw on the local ITV news that the tramway is 110 years old, they kept that quiet!

Indeed, ME .... the only reference I have seen to this milestone is on the back of the tramway tickets... 'Tramway 110'

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 31, 2012, 08:59:33 pm
This evening I had the pleasure of meeting one of the few Forum regulars, who I had not previously met.

Hello PADDY,  nice to meet you Sir..... and thanks for getting me home safe!   

Here is a picture of Paddy ...    ^*^0
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Post by: snowcap on July 31, 2012, 09:16:26 pm
the tram had  gold numbers (balloons) on the back 110 and there was a man with a t v like camera on the back of one of them this morning. i wandered what it was all about.
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Post by: wrex on July 31, 2012, 09:19:03 pm
Good news at last,the grass was cut along the prom,i do hope it;s not just for the bloomers
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Paddy on August 01, 2012, 02:53:58 pm
This evening I had the pleasure of meeting one of the few Forum regulars, who I had not previously met.

Hello PADDY,  nice to meet you Sir..... and thanks for getting me home safe!   

Here is a picture of Paddy ...    ^*^0

The car is the wrong colour but you got the bald head exactly right!

Nice to meet you too matey.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 03, 2012, 06:08:51 pm
DaveR you need to do some serious digging,things are so quiet on the development side,no new shops,bars,hotels,anything.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2012, 09:12:37 pm
Photo of the storm passing across Llandudno this afternoon, taken from Rhyl Beach:
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Post by: Ludo on August 04, 2012, 10:03:40 pm
Really impressive image Dave! - worthy of the US TV programme 'Storm Chasers' I thought.

But what a fantastic vindication of the 3T forum (and the internet in general of course) that here across the sea in Nijmegen I can get personal experiences of an event from totally different perspectives within hours/minutes of it happening. In this case, Ormegolf's encounter with old forum friends in the thunderstorm, and your dramatic photograph of same thunderstorm as it passed over them - almost unbelievable really....

It is all very much appreciated!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 04, 2012, 10:30:37 pm
Yes a great pic and what a storm! we were under the carport polishing the Spitfire ready for a classic car show tomorrow, it's a large carport and still some rain came in sideways!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 04, 2012, 11:58:00 pm
During the cloudburst on Saturday afternoon, I took this photo looking up my garden, which kind of backs on to Mike's golf course.

You can't really tell from this just how horrendous the storm was, it sounded like hailstones to me, such was the ferocity  the raindrops... It sure wasn't summer weather!   Or maybe these days, it was!
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Post by: SDQ on August 05, 2012, 11:58:07 am
There were hailstones when the storm passed over me. It started as rain and got heavier & heavier and then hail thundered down for about 3 minutes at the worst point of the storm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 06, 2012, 05:44:51 pm
Is it true the Llandudno Sandcastle Competition sponsored by the Imperial Hotel and scheduled for Tuesday, 14 August 2012 has been cancelled due to a lack of sand on the North Shore?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 06, 2012, 06:26:34 pm
Rhos-on-Sea has plenty of sand -  and isn't that part of CCBC's domain?    WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 06, 2012, 06:45:33 pm
They could hold it at the West Shore, loads of sand there, especially around the roads! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on August 06, 2012, 06:51:34 pm
Is it true the Llandudno Sandcastle Competition sponsored by the Imperial Hotel and scheduled for Tuesday, 14 August 2012 has been cancelled due to a lack of sand on the North Shore?

Yes they've just tweeted:

"Very sorry everyone but regrettably we're having to cancel our Sandcastle Competition on 14 August due to the state of North Shore Beach. "
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 06, 2012, 07:18:19 pm
Why oh why has nobody done a thing about it.
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Post by: hollins on August 06, 2012, 08:11:12 pm
The good and the bad of a walk down Mostyn Street on the 6 August.
Apologies for keeping going on about it but M&S what are you thinking?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 06, 2012, 09:35:26 pm
Am not even attempting to go into M&S-- have heard that it is chaos  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 07, 2012, 08:01:34 am
Oscar has picked up on the sand debate,im not sure what the outcome of Janet Howarths meeting with CCBC was but they sure have done nowt,the power of the tories.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 07, 2012, 08:37:05 am
wrex,  the Sandcastle Competition was scheduled to start at 2pm with judging at 4pm.

Do you know what time High Tide is next Tuesday?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 07, 2012, 11:02:44 am
http://www.tidetimes.org.uk/llandudno-tide-times-20120813 (http://www.tidetimes.org.uk/llandudno-tide-times-20120813)
Have a look-- a very useful site

Also I have just spotted this:  makes you spit !
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/08/07/15-tonnes-of-sand-to-be-turned-into-fantasy-castle-in-north-wales-55578-31564406/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2012/08/07/15-tonnes-of-sand-to-be-turned-into-fantasy-castle-in-north-wales-55578-31564406/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 07, 2012, 04:18:20 pm
We made Radio two this afternoon,Steve Wright show,sandcastle comp cancelled.Bri i take it the tide would have been in when it was due,no good backing CCBC for being incompetent thought ,the beach is a joke it has never been cleared of rocks and looks a disgrace.
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Post by: emma p on August 07, 2012, 04:45:43 pm
 :( This is a shame. Its was on our 'to do' list for when we come on Saturday for two weeks. Are there any other things going on that anyone knows about ? Roll on Saturday ! This time last year we were in the thick of the 'Roberts Hunt'. Thanks to you guys ill be meeting up with my cousins again while we're there.  :)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 07, 2012, 04:53:06 pm
As I passed Bodafon Field today I noticed that contractors were stripping a piece of land up near the Farm.  Anyone know what is going to be built?   WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 07, 2012, 04:55:02 pm
wrex, in the past the Sandcastle Competition has been held on the sand at the bottom of the wooden pier opposite the Imperial Hotel.

It makes sense because the Imperial Hotel is the sponsor of the annual event.

Therefore, it follows that the organiser will always check the situation regarding the tide before setting a date and time for the event.

I am not an expert in building sandcastles but I would imagine it will be best to do with dry sand which suggests it will be better to arrange when the tide is coming in rather then just after it has gone out.

 
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 07, 2012, 05:08:23 pm
As I passed Bodafon Field today I noticed that contractors were stripping a piece of land up near the Farm.  Anyone know what is going to be built?   WWW

I believe they are laying the foundations for the new Mostyn Theme Park with associated camping and caravan site and youth hostel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 07, 2012, 05:17:55 pm
Oh!  Goody !   $good$

Well almost Goody until I saw Wrex's post!     :(
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Post by: wrex on August 07, 2012, 05:18:10 pm
If only Bri
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Post by: Jack on August 07, 2012, 05:27:03 pm
Didn't Bodafon Farm get planning permission to build a golf driving range? 

Aren't they starting on the new Gogarth School some time soon also?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 07, 2012, 05:28:01 pm
This report has just come through from the BBC which highlights the problem at the bottom of that wooden jetty.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-19162543 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-19162543)

Also, judging from the bottom photo it does look as if sandcastles are best built from wet sand.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on August 07, 2012, 06:17:49 pm
Why don't they move sand from West Shore to North Shore beach?
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Post by: norman08 on August 07, 2012, 07:41:20 pm
that would be too easy ,anyway their,s enough sand under them stupid stones they put on the north shore ,you know the ones with the weeds growing out of them :rage:
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Post by: Fester on August 07, 2012, 11:52:03 pm
Errrm... could the Imperial Hotel sponsored Sandcastle Competition not just be held at West Shore?

Or is that just too simple?     ?{}?
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Post by: SDQ on August 08, 2012, 12:08:55 am
Errrm... could the Imperial Hotel sponsored Sandcastle Competition not just be held at West Shore?

Or is that just too simple?     ?{}?


They said they had considered it but ultimately thought it would be confusing to the public seeing as the sponsoring hotel is on the North Shore.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 08, 2012, 07:27:01 am
Why should they move the comp just because CCBC could not be bothered to clean small parts of the beach.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 08, 2012, 07:31:24 am
Ah...It is becoming clearer.

The sponsor is also the organiser.

Silly me !!

wrex, there is still sand between that green algae and the sea.

Did CCBC actually refuse to clear away the green algae when asked?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 08, 2012, 09:06:26 am
Ah...It is becoming clearer.
The sponsor is also the organiser.
 

And obviously are unable to see what is right outside their front door!   A bit of a Laugh-house rather than Loft, don't ya know?    _))*
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Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2012, 06:16:46 pm
I don't listen to Tudno FM that often but one show always worth a listen is Andrew Stuart, who has the 10-12pm slot on a Thursday night. Well worth a listen.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2012, 10:35:30 pm
A foggy evening in Llandudno. I, erm, just happened to be outside the Fat Cat and snapped this photo:
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Post by: snowcap on August 08, 2012, 10:52:28 pm
could be the same time as blodyn was snapping It from above?
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Post by: Michael on August 08, 2012, 10:54:07 pm
Two of our local lady members are both upset by M and S redesigning their Llandudno store. And I am the last to disagree with them. Apart from anything else I hardly ever go in any of their stores.
   But, in fairness to M and S, I think I should just mention a couple of facts.  I am guessing here but I imagine that M and S have a full time team of sub contractors covering the whole of the country with refurbishments. So, some store has to be done in the peak summer weeks. I find it inconcievable that M and S will not have considered the fact that Llandudno is a summer seasonal town before they decided to go ahead. They havent got to the retail position they occupy by not noticing things like that. Its just that the summer footfall is
greater in, shall I say, Chester. 
  Now to something factual, something I have seen with my own eyes every evening for the last three weeks.  At around 7.15 every evening there are anything up to twenty assorted white vans with all sorts of names on them parked outside M and S. And anything up to 30/40 high visability coated, safety helmeted, goggled etc subbies waiting outside to start their hard days night.
  I suppose the only alternative would have been to close the store down completly.  Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 08, 2012, 11:30:18 pm
A number of those vans have the phrase 'asbestos removal' on their signage....  ;)
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Post by: Ian48 on August 09, 2012, 05:00:52 am
I do feel that M&S seem to be damned both ways. Many people have commented how tired the store was looking (both on this site and elsewhere), but when they do something about it, it's an inconvenience. I don't think you can make an omelette without breaking eggs most of the time and this is a case in point. The overriding concern for M&S, I imagine, is to get this done in time for the Christmas rush and if it causes a bit of mayhem then that's a price they see worth paying. At least it means that we get a top-notch new store quicker and in time for the busiest time of year.
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Post by: Blodyn on August 09, 2012, 11:16:06 am
could be the same time as blodyn was snapping It from above?

Looks about the same time, Snowcap.  The view was much nicer from above the cloud, on top of the Great Orme (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,17.250.html). 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: nwpo on August 09, 2012, 12:46:11 pm
Didn't Bodafon Farm get planning permission to build a golf driving range? 

Aren't they starting on the new Gogarth School some time soon also?

I believe the owner of Bonkerz, Club 147 and The Gresham (and pro at North Wales Golf Club) has a lease for the driving range so I'd imagine they've finally got around to building it.

I'm sure a Golf driving range will be an excellent facility for the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on August 09, 2012, 07:16:06 pm
as long as it doesn't pinch mikes customers
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 10, 2012, 01:23:29 am
Didn't Bodafon Farm get planning permission to build a golf driving range? 

Aren't they starting on the new Gogarth School some time soon also?

I believe the owner of Bonkerz, Club 147 and The Gresham (and pro at North Wales Golf Club) has a lease for the driving range so I'd imagine they've finally got around to building it.

I'm sure a Golf driving range will be an excellent facility for the town.

Well, I'll certainly be giving it a whirl.

There is no better feeling than getting a bucket of 100 golf balls and smacking them (hopefully) with a 1 wood or suchlike over 200 yards or so.
No disrespect to Mike's course, where you can hone your skills on the short game...or putting, but honestly, I can't wait! :golf: :golf:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2012, 08:15:36 am
You'll be waiting a while! The work is the building of a construction compound for the rebuilding of Ysgol Y Gogarth.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2012, 09:26:55 am
Such a beautiful day yesterday and good to see the town so busy, the Prom & Beach were the busiest I've seen it so far this year:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 10, 2012, 09:34:03 am
Very nice, DaveR.

What a pity the copy you tweeted to the Daily Post yesterday has been published today as only 4cm x 2.5cm !!!  :o
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Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2012, 09:43:41 am
It was only an iPhone shot, so maybe not good enough to publish in a larger size. I hope they spelt my name properly!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 10, 2012, 09:45:17 am
Yup.  D)
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Post by: TheMedz on August 13, 2012, 10:18:53 pm
Intermittent lighting up of the whole sky above Llandudno so I went up Pen Dinas and witnessed an incredible display of lightning taking place currently from us over the top of the wind turbines and reaching out to the Wirral.
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Post by: DaveR on August 13, 2012, 10:19:45 pm
Ooh, I'll take a look. I'm hearing that power is out in parts of central Llandudno following some sort of sub station explosion?
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Post by: TheMedz on August 13, 2012, 10:57:46 pm
Shooting stars galore if you look towards the north east. Perseid meteor shower visible for the last night tonight apparently.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 13, 2012, 11:38:53 pm
We drove to the seafront in Rhos and saw some flashing in the sky, some sort of sheet lightning?
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Post by: Llechwedd on August 14, 2012, 12:10:59 pm
Electric off 6.40p.m. until 7.30p.m. Monday night.  Then couldn't use the cash point at HSBC as no electricity .  Luckily others ok.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on August 14, 2012, 12:58:11 pm
Currently a busker dressed as a Red Indian outside M&S, playing 'House of the Rising Sun' on his pan pipes - quite an experience  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 14, 2012, 08:46:50 pm
Floral Clock is coming along, might be ready for the end of the season at this rate!
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Post by: Fester on August 14, 2012, 08:49:16 pm
Yes... but..... I have to say, ITS RUBBISH!!

It has been built at entirely the wrong angle, so unless you happen to be over 9 feet tall, or are lucky enough to have an upper floor room in The Cumberland Hotel, you can hardly see it!

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Post by: wrex on August 14, 2012, 09:51:49 pm
The clock is for the passengers on the open top bus,so we all have to go on the bus,CCBC will have to paty though.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on August 15, 2012, 02:18:52 pm
Intriguing tweet from Judith Phillips over on Twitter:

"Landowner says £50m investment heralds bright future for Llandudno. See story in tomorrow's North Wales Weekly News."

Sounds interesting. Mostyn?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 15, 2012, 02:31:52 pm
£50m for Llandudno?  I saw that Tweet too, I imagined it being a shameless attempt to make me buy the NWWN once again.

In turn, I shall sell her a bottle of elixyr of eternal life from my shop.

Both have an equal chance of being true I would say.
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Post by: DaveR on August 15, 2012, 03:35:49 pm
There are currently 7 people working on the floral clock.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 15, 2012, 04:24:27 pm
There are currently 7 people working on the floral clock.

The're on overtime!      _))*
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Post by: wrex on August 15, 2012, 04:35:39 pm
There can be no truth in it ,Oscar or DaveR have said nothing so it must be a lie.
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Post by: Ian48 on August 15, 2012, 05:10:43 pm
Let's not knock it before we know the facts. Judith Phillips isn't someone who messes about like that and is far from sensationalist.

By the way, mentioning Mostyn Estates, have you seen their nice new website (I, or someone else, may have mentioned this before, I cannot remember):

http://www.mostynestates.co.uk/ (http://www.mostynestates.co.uk/)
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Post by: wrex on August 15, 2012, 05:57:04 pm
I was only joking,maybe the Alice in Wonderland theme park is back on track for Bodafon fields,whopee.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 15, 2012, 06:22:17 pm
Water was still standing calf deep at the kerbside outside Superdrug tonight when I passed at 5.55pm !
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Post by: Michael on August 15, 2012, 07:41:07 pm
   Is this a good time to ask "may I have a look at your calf so I know how deep the water is?"  I'm not putting my name
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Post by: Nemesis on August 15, 2012, 07:55:04 pm
Moooo :twoface:
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Post by: wrex on August 15, 2012, 08:34:47 pm
I think what Judith has put together is the investment from Ysgol Gogarth,MCarthy Stone flats,railway station project and added them up to 50 million, i can;t see this being a one off project,hope im wrong.
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Post by: Ian48 on August 16, 2012, 11:03:07 am
And you were right Wrex. Though the article did mention 2 hotel groups interested in coming to the town. Don't hold your breath!
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Post by: Tosh on August 16, 2012, 11:15:13 am
I can't think of anything sensible to say except is that a pop bottle in the middle or is it something to cover up the spindle because I don't see any fingers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 16, 2012, 11:26:08 am
Well done to Judith,not for the article but doing what she set out to do and getting me to buy the damn paper,no mention of the beach though,all gone away now has it Judith.
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Post by: Fester on August 16, 2012, 08:50:14 pm
£50m for Llandudno?  I saw that Tweet too, I imagined it being a shameless attempt to make me buy the NWWN once again.

In turn, I shall sell her a bottle of elixyr of eternal life from my shop.

Both have an equal chance of being true I would say.

Was I right?   or.......?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 17, 2012, 11:36:32 am
As the main season draws to an end we need to take a look at the CCBC cock ups and try to sort them now,the worst one was the parks dept,either an utter shambles or massive job cuts but their performance has been bad.The town beach has just been left by CCBC to resemble a dirty,slimey green dump and they need to sort it for next year.
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Post by: dwsi on August 17, 2012, 12:26:26 pm
Conwy castle is over run by weeds because of the weather

Conwy councillor Joan Vaughan is also disappointed by the appearance of the castle.
She said: “Cadw is very strict and very powerful in Conwy, we all have to live by their rules, so for them not to look after their own is unacceptable.”
Cadw said: “We are aware of the greater growth of vegetation at Conwy Castle, which has been caused by adverse weather conditions over the summer months.

http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/08/16/cadw-admits-conwy-castle-is-overgrown-with-weeds-55243-31629701/ (http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/08/16/cadw-admits-conwy-castle-is-overgrown-with-weeds-55243-31629701/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 20, 2012, 07:13:23 am
solved the problem of where Arriva Wales are locating on Builders st,Alpine have bought the oil yard next door but are renting to Arriva,sorted.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 20, 2012, 11:25:51 am
So they have kissed and made up --- after the great bus wars days of the early 90's! Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 20, 2012, 05:09:52 pm
At 17.00. The cable cars have come to a sudden halt. They were running slowly for some time before, but now nothing is moving. Cannot see any passengers from here. Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 20, 2012, 07:36:25 pm
At 17.00. The cable cars have come to a sudden halt. They were running slowly for some time before, but now nothing is moving. Cannot see any passengers from here. Mike

Running slowly could be whilst the cables are being greased which has to be done to stop deterioration, especially on the core.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 21, 2012, 01:27:31 am
....Or they could have been simply closed?

Which I have noticed that more and more of Llandudno's shops and attractions are doing these days, closing earlier!

It's a self fulfilling prophecy, ..........not many people about.....close early.... (less takings)...... more people think the town is closed too early..... so less people return to the town.... (less takings) .......   less people in town..... and so it goes on.

I was told very clearly when I took a shop on the pier, you MUST put the hours in to make a living.
Those same people no longer put the hours in, I do...... and I consistently benefit from being the only shop open.

It might only be an extra £50 a day, but they don't half add up!



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Post by: Ian on August 21, 2012, 07:50:26 am
Quote
....Or they could have been simply closed?

Only if all the cars were in the stations.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 21, 2012, 07:57:46 am
....Or they could have been simply closed?

Which I have noticed that more and more of Llandudno's shops and attractions are doing these days, closing earlier!

It's a self fulfilling prophecy, ..........not many people about.....close early.... (less takings)...... more people think the town is closed too early..... so less people return to the town.... (less takings) .......   less people in town..... and so it goes on.

But you don't have to pay staff though, a bigger shop would not want to pay several staff when it is very quiet.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 21, 2012, 08:11:29 am

It's a self fulfilling prophecy, ..........not many people about.....close early.... (less takings)...... more people think the town is closed too early..... so less people return to the town.... (less takings) .......   less people in town..... and so it goes on.



Generally referred to as  "The Law of diminishing returns".   Can also happen when prices are put up to compensate for lost revenue, price up, less people buy, price up less people buy . . . . . etc.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 21, 2012, 08:40:55 am
You do have to put the hours in peak season when the town is busy.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 21, 2012, 11:35:47 am
....Or they could have been simply closed?

Which I have noticed that more and more of Llandudno's shops and attractions are doing these days, closing earlier!

It's a self fulfilling prophecy, ..........not many people about.....close early.... (less takings)...... more people think the town is closed too early..... so less people return to the town.... (less takings) .......   less people in town..... and so it goes on.

I was told very clearly when I took a shop on the pier, you MUST put the hours in to make a living.
Those same people no longer put the hours in, I do...... and I consistently benefit from being the only shop open.

It might only be an extra £50 a day, but they don't half add up!
By Gum lad-- it shows where you come from !! ;D
This was what we were trying to get through to the woman who ran our business in Yorks. Eventually we'd had enough of her moaning about not being able to make ends meet on the few hours she kept cutting down to. Guess what? We sold it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 22, 2012, 12:06:13 am
You do have to put the hours in peak season when the town is busy.

YES.... Precisely.
The business theory is that you should be able to make plenty of money in the peak hours, to offset the quieter periods.
But still remain open for some of those quieter hours as either a service, of for goodwill.

I have lost count of the times that I have sold things to tourists, simply because I was the only one open and they had nowhere else to spend their holiday money.
You have to be in it, to win it.... as they say.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 22, 2012, 11:59:10 am
caught them cleaning rhos beach this morning ,can somebody have a look and see if the town beach has been done
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Post by: Llechwedd on August 22, 2012, 12:50:47 pm
Just noticed that the Peter Pan statue in Hyde Park is not broken although very shiny where people rub it.  So that's it.  We all save up have a bronze "white" rabbit statue on the West shore and the original can go in the museum.
Sorted ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on August 22, 2012, 01:31:26 pm
We all save up have a bronze "white" rabbit statue on the West shore and the original can go in the museum.
Sorted ;D

Or do a Robert Maxwell and cast it overboard about 50 miles offshore.   :)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 22, 2012, 08:16:00 pm
Congratulations go to Colwyn Bay but still a Merit for Llandudno.

http://www.walesinbloom.org.uk/?page_id=309 (http://www.walesinbloom.org.uk/?page_id=309)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 22, 2012, 08:54:06 pm
The "Queen of Welsh Resorts" manages a "Merit" - I'm sure our Hoteliers and the Tourist reliant businesses will be absolutely delighted!  WWW

How about that then Wrex?    $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 22, 2012, 10:48:43 pm
The completed Floral Clock
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Post by: DaveR on August 22, 2012, 10:54:44 pm
The Lifeboat was called out this afternoon to a stricken yacht in the Conwy Estuary. Upon return, it had a tricky job to return to the Station as both unloading coaches and carelessly parked cars had blocked St. George's Place. Good job they weren't there when it was being towed for launching or vital time could have been lost.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 23, 2012, 08:27:48 am
The completed Floral Clock

About time!    D)
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Post by: DVT on August 23, 2012, 01:25:04 pm
The completed Floral Clock

About time!    D)

Surely that's a Floral Watch, or are they trying to fob us off !!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 23, 2012, 01:33:23 pm
The completed Floral Clock

About time!    D)

Surely that's a Floral Watch, or are they trying to fob us off !!!

No!  Just winding you up!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 23, 2012, 02:24:30 pm
Hands down! Just watch it and put some spring in your step :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on August 23, 2012, 03:42:05 pm
This morning I thought I'll be kind to the wife and disappear for a couple of hours.
So off I went to the the library in Mostyn street and changed my books, that was about 25 minutes taken care of.
Next port of call must be the floral clock, very nice, mmmmm.
Onto the pier and a brisk walk to the end is just what the doctor ordered, nature calls as I neared the end and guess what, the toilets are closed due to "maintenance issues", whatever they are.
Never mind turn around and head back, I might give Fester the nod as I walk past, well I would if he was there at 10-00 am on a Thursday but he isn't.
The portaloos were still locked and the arcade was still locked.
Jump in the car and go home asap.
I was only out of the house for 70 minutes, I must walk slower next time.

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Post by: Bellringer on August 23, 2012, 04:45:00 pm
Fester was definitely there a little later because I put my head in, probably about 11 - ish.
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Post by: Blodyn on August 23, 2012, 04:55:46 pm
I learnt from someone in the Parks Department that construction of the Floral Clock (or Watch) was paid for entirely by grants and that at least a couple of the people planting it up had taken time off work to do it in their own time. 
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Post by: Yorkie on August 23, 2012, 06:26:28 pm
if such is the case, maybe Judith will manage to get an acknowledgement in the Weekly News.   If plaudits are due then let them be delivered! :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2012, 11:45:20 am
At 17.00. The cable cars have come to a sudden halt. They were running slowly for some time before, but now nothing is moving. Cannot see any passengers from here. Mike
I'm told that the Cable Car has not been in operation since this incident, anyone know more?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on August 24, 2012, 02:03:44 pm
At 17.00. The cable cars have come to a sudden halt. They were running slowly for some time before, but now nothing is moving. Cannot see any passengers from here. Mike
I'm told that the Cable Car has not been in operation since this incident, anyone know more?

via @c_dearden on twitter

Owner says it's strong winds - wind direction more of an issue than strength - but he's now open again
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 24, 2012, 03:21:35 pm
Tides coming up and we have less than 2000 sq. yds. of useable beach and right in the middle the poor old Donkeys are trying to ply their trade. Why on earth would you want to bring your children here?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 24, 2012, 04:45:21 pm
Thing is Blongb,people have stop coming here,ask any hoteliers,with the weather we have had Llandudno is a no go area if wet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 24, 2012, 07:38:19 pm
Thing is Blongb,people have stop coming here,ask any hoteliers,with the weather we have had Llandudno is a no go area if wet.
Wrex where have you been? Haven't you heard of BONKERZ http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/  (http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/) It’s a fantastic example of what Private Enterprise can achieve if left to get on with it  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 24, 2012, 08:01:57 pm
I don't know if I am the only one, but I have never heard of the place until your post!  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 24, 2012, 10:30:11 pm
Yes, Llandudno could offer more to tourists on rainy days.   (Pier Pavilion site being an obvious place for a facility)

BUT.....  I have to say that ALL seaside towns I have ever visited in Britain are very miserable places when its raining.  :( :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 25, 2012, 07:54:18 am
I think folk come to Llandudno mainly in the summer months and mainly for fresh air and sunshine, both of which are sadly lacking during a heavy shower.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 25, 2012, 08:22:55 am
Lets get the facts here,CCBC try and get away with useing Llandudno as a money making town and at the moment plough it all into Colwyn Bay, Llandudno town council and the local buisnesses,hoteliers allow them to do this without even a wimper so its no surprise nobody does a thing about how the gardens look or the state of the beach,but another fact is people love Llandudno,they keep coming and until they stop we won;t get any reation from anybody,the fact we see things being left,we see hotels being turned into flats,we see the beach not even cleaned,we see the gardens allowed to get over grown,we see no investment in the tourism buisness what so ever and so on,councillors don;t give a monkies because they know best,we voted for them so thats the result,not one who will stand up and say we are right.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2012, 09:21:23 am
I think people come to Llandudno for different reasons. Some because they like the fact its a traditional Victorian seaside resort. Some because it's quieter and less brash than other seaside resorts. Others because its a great base for exploring Snowdonia. And on and on and on...

Whatever the reason, our visitors are often people who live themselves in less attractive parts of the country.It's important we build upon Llandudno's natural assets by ensuring a clean and well maintained town, that can be both a pride to us and a place that visitors will want to return to. A clean beach, well maintained parks and gardens are all part of this...and very important parts.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2012, 10:48:54 am
Thing is Blongb,people have stop coming here,ask any hoteliers,with the weather we have had Llandudno is a no go area if wet.
Wrex where have you been? Haven't you heard of BONKERZ http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/  (http://bonkerzfuncentre.co.uk/) It’s a fantastic example of what Private Enterprise can achieve if left to get on with it  $good$

Just watch where you park if using same. Various hotels have had to roust people out of there to remove their cars from their private car parks. Wardens are now aware of this problem.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ludo on August 25, 2012, 11:34:34 am
Hmmm - interesting debate this, I have been mulling it over in the last couple of days (and other subjects here on the forum) and have been waiting until I had something vaguely approaching useful to say before tinkling the the ol' Mac ivories. So - here it is:

The big plus of the connectivity of the 21st century world we live in thanks to Mr Berners-Lee is that power can be wrested from the hands of the former overlords and placed firmly in the hands of we, the people. This has been demonstrated very vividly in the past five years and is becoming more and more powerful every day as the facility develops with faster broadband access, more and more mobile devices and the myriad of apps available to all.

Of course, this provides both negative and positive power and sometimes the definition of these is entirely subjective. Last summer's riots in the UK, the Arab spring, wikileaks and many more are applications of this power which have split the world along political and moral fault lines. We have a choice whether to go towards the light or the dark side of the force, and sometimes the very definition of 'light' or 'dark' is a personal and subjective definition.

So what does all this have to do with Llandudno beach and some of the other vexing issues (Christmas lights, eyesores etc) up for debate here? - I hear you ask with growing scepticism and impatience. Well, bear with me friends and I will try to explain. Short and sweet: With currently 772 members, the Three Towns Forum is an incredibly powerful lobbying tool, and a potential medium for facilitating positive solutions to local government intransigence, underfunding, lack of vision and investment, decline, decay and much more evidence of the 'dark side of the force'.

I understand the disappointment and cynicism of many people airing their views here and in most cases I share it. But I greatly admire those who instead of only criticising and submitting to the seemingly inevitable decline, get up and do something about it. The 'Friends of the Happy Valley' initiative is a perfect example of what I mean. Using the power of connectivity this excellent forum offers, people are out and about clearing undergrowth and showing they care about their beautiful town. I really wish I could be there with you too.

To come back to the point of the posts about the current state of Llandudno beach using the model I have just described, this is an idea I have been considering in the last few days. I have not seen the state of the beach first hand of course as I live across the north sea divide, but from what I can gather there is significant growth of vegetation impinging on the sandy beach of the north shore. Ok, Mother Nature has a reason for doing these things and she can always be gently persuaded to change her mind if the argument is good and there is something in it for her. My suggestion is to form a group of interested/dedicated forum members (perhaps some of those who feel negative and cynical towards CCBC) and start taking some smart and creative action which could have a fantastic positive effect on the image of Llandudno worldwide - and thus bring in new visitors with a completely different bucket and spade. Environmental tourism is a growing economic factor in reviving the fortunes of the UK's declining coastal towns.

In the first instance the plan would be to contact the University of Wales Earth Sciences Department to find students who may be looking for a subject for a geo-political - biology - earth sciences thesis. Or indeed research staff who are looking for applications for research. Let's find out why this is happening first and then decide what is the best thing to do about it. This process alone would be a fascinating media story. I know there is government funding for environmental research and there are many private organisations who also have funding available. If the University of Wales are not interested, then other Universities almost certainly would be. I know this is the case as I have personally been involved with a major leading university in almost the same context involving a geology project in Mid-Wales. Think national news stories, think field trips for students and research staff, think clean beach - but above all, as the man said: Think different.

In the 21st century we have the power to go way above the heads of petty, Dickensian council officials and really make a difference - of course if they want to help and support us too, I am sure no one would have any objections....

In the same context, I have an amazing idea I am working on at the moment and if I am not laughed or snored out of the forum for posting this and thus subjected to a tsunami of cynicism, I would really like to ask for your help with it. It could also put Llandudno on the international news agenda in a very positive light in a very, very different kind of way...


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 25, 2012, 01:19:39 pm
Well said Ludo.  Unfortunately, whilst your comments will be well read, and with lots of nodding heads in agreement, not a lot will, in fact be done.

If we had a leak in our dyke, there would be lots of hot air talked about it, but no one would be prepared to do anything, or even have the gumption to stick a finger in the hole!

None of the messages can be got across to the Council(s) by just one person, and it will require a concerted effort of a decent sized group to begin to get any success.   Many can shout on this Forum, even me, and although our words will be read by Councillors and the like, they, regrettably do not take what we say on board.  It requires protests at the Council Meetings and outside the Council Offices and constant lobbying of Councillors and even Council Officers.  The Chief Executive should be one of the first targets.  I am certainly willing to voice my feelings and take action but alas, without others, I will just be one small voice in the wilderness.

 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ludo on August 25, 2012, 02:00:59 pm
I am certainly willing to voice my feelings and take action but alas, without others, I will just be one small voice in the wilderness.

Well that makes two of us then Yorkie - and two is better than one - is better than none - yes?. I am not really thinking of approaching the Council - I think it is already certain that is a brick wall which is not worth the cranial collision damage. No - what I suggest is bypassing them altogether.

All I ask is say four people (ideally more of course) to help with writing, researching, photographing and generally being an enthusiastic support. I can't do it all myself especially not as I am in the Netherlands although geographical location does not really matter much these days. Together we can all really make a big difference - come on! all we have to do is decide to do it:


ok - to be more specific regarding the beach issue any or all of the following will help:

How long does everyone think it would realistically take for the council to do anything about cleaning up the problem through the usual Dickensian procedures?. I think we would realistically be talking about at the very least next season (june july) at the earliest. What could be done by thinking differently in the meantime?

1. Photographic study of the issue:

a. Helicopter view (not literally) - a view of the complete extent of the growth from a high position - perhaps from the area of the Rocking Stone looking down onto the beach.

b. A shot of the growth in the context of its effect on the tourism industry - peak season shot of deserted beach in the sunshine with the green growth in frame. This would be best taken from the same position as an older photograph from say 20 years ago to show comparison.

c. Close-up image of the growth from a low angle showing recognisable landmark in the background.

d. Macro shots in situ of various species of growth.

e. Macro shots in studio lighting conditions of various species.

f. Microscope photography of various species of growth.

g. Time lapse study from say, one of the tower rooms of the Grand Hotel looking down on the beach over a period of say four months. The time duration between shots would depend on the species of the growth. For example if it is as I suspect algal growth, the growth rate could be anything from hours to a week to see any significant change in coverage/density. Therefore daily shots would be necessary - I am sure this could be organised as a team effort by the forum. It could also be achieved by the use of a high resolution automated webcam. The resulting film would form the basis of presentations and analytical data on how the growth is affecting public usage of the beach.

2. Analysis:

a. Take live samples of the various species of growth and submit them for analysis to interested educational insitutions.

b. Produce growth rate graphs based on photographic evidence, witness reports and historical records.

c. Primary analysis criteria would be species identification, toxicology, chemical properties, trace elements and bacteriological pollution vectors.

3. Study phase:

a. Based on research results establish study panel to investigate the potential for resolution or development. It is quite possible at this stage that it may be discovered that the growth may be used as a positive advantage to Llandudno and North Wales in general.

b. Fester, imagine that it was discovered that the growth on the beach was in fact CHLORELLA (http://www.biochlorella.com/chlorella.html) . How about a worldwide herbal remedy business run from your kiosk marketing 'Llandudno's elixir of life'? . It could be possible that the green growth invading the beach at the moment is the best thing that has happened to Llandudno since Alice took her trip down the rabbit hole. Then again it could be a just another result of pollution, and in that case through this research we would have a solution to the problem now and further into the future, and the basis of a convincing case for funding.

Summary:

The history of  the UK's spa towns is based on just such creative use of Mother Nature's mysterious deeds. Llandudno itself was built on such a basis. Who knows, the mysterious green growth could be the beginning of a new phase in the town's development. The tourism industry has been in decline for decades anyway - mostly related to the great British weather and cheap flights to Spain and the like. Hence the Victorian extravaganza and other initiatives designed to keep heads above water. Daring to think different is not always a bad thing.


just a thought.....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ludo on August 25, 2012, 02:37:51 pm
1. Photographic study of the issue:

c. Close-up image of the growth from a low angle showing recognisable landmark in the background

Examples of 1c. I made in 2008:

(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2285/dscf1141l.jpg)

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1922/dscf1138d.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on August 26, 2012, 12:10:59 am
i was crabbing on the jetty last week with the grandchildren and we were pulling the green weed ( not so sure its algy) nearly every time we pulled the bate in, looking close at it, it is some type of weed. algy is a lot slimier than the stuff we were tossing back. The water looks to clean for it to be algy.  I agree with ludo it would be a good idea if some students were to look into what and why it,s there. Someone must know someone who may want to get involved in clearing up the mystery green invader.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 26, 2012, 12:42:13 am
Anyway!!!!   ....After all that crap, it was busy in the old town tonight!   All the pubs were packed.   ZXZ Z**

By the way I have jars of green algae for sale (apparently) ..... £10 a pop,  not a bad price for the elixyr of life.
Form an orderly queue please.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 27, 2012, 07:47:25 am
What an oppertunity for CCBC to obtain the old HSS hire shop and open a toy and model railway museum,ideal location and big enought to hold afair sized exibition,lets pray.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 27, 2012, 07:51:20 am
I popped along to the Oval car boot yesterday,great and busy but my god the whole area looked as if it had;nt been cut for months,how the ratepayers around there have put up with that i dont know.Howarth and Lyon hang your heads in shame.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gaylord Screwsby on August 27, 2012, 10:26:56 am
Anyway!!!!   ....After all that crap, it was busy in the old town tonight!   All the pubs were packed.   ZXZ Z**

By the way I have jars of green algae for sale (apparently) ..... £10 a pop,  not a bad price for the elixyr of life.
Form an orderly queue please.

I'll have a pint please.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2012, 11:11:14 am
I popped along to the Oval car boot yesterday,great and busy but my god the whole area looked as if it had;nt been cut for months,how the ratepayers around there have put up with that i dont know.Howarth and Lyon hang your heads in shame.

Quite right - shouldn't allow Car Boot Sales on a Sunday, especially in an area set aside for recreation and wild life conservation!    WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 27, 2012, 03:59:20 pm
I popped along to the Oval car boot yesterday,great and busy but my god the whole area looked as if it had;nt been cut for months,how the ratepayers around there have put up with that i dont know.Howarth and Lyon hang your heads in shame.

Quite right - shouldn't allow Car Boot Sales on a Sunday, especially in an area set aside for recreation and wild life conservation!    WWW

Not confined to just the Oval, it's everywhere you look in the Town. Comforting to know the Council Tax payers of Llandudno don't mind their money being squandered on the redevelopment of Colwyn Bay Sea Front, Colwyn Bay Pier and the soon to be redeveloped Rhos Point at our expense. After all it's a small price to pay, especially now we've got the Bandstand and  Pocket Watch to fob us off.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on August 27, 2012, 04:09:29 pm
I think that the area is left 'Fallow' to recover, after all the football games that have taken place during the earlier part of the year. It was a semi bare mud splat-erred area after the football this year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 27, 2012, 08:40:39 pm
quiggs it was the whole of the oval,except the football pitch,that had been done,people cannot walk across there now without getting your feet soaked
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Sara on August 28, 2012, 11:24:45 am
The rugby field is the same, the two pitches are kept really short but all the surrounding grass is left long. Wellies for me when walking the dog.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 30, 2012, 12:02:21 pm
I know things are quiet but the forum seems to have gone to sleep,has Judith not given us anything to talk about in the weekly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2012, 12:33:49 pm
Car crash has wrecked the railings outside Sainsburys...nothing more exciting to report.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 31, 2012, 07:51:45 pm
Perhaps more than myself have been snatching a quick break.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 01, 2012, 04:12:53 pm
The floral clock has stopped at 10.13.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 01, 2012, 04:24:39 pm
The floral clock has stopped at 10.13.

It'll still be right twice a day though, which is more often than CCBC are right  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2012, 04:37:25 pm
The floral clock has stopped at 10.13.

It'll still be right twice a day though, which is more often than CCBC are right  :P
Bit of a generalisation there, B2R? You don't think your remarks might be offensive to those CCBC staff that are competent at their jobs?  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on September 01, 2012, 04:49:37 pm
Is 10.13 significant in Alice and Wonderland?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 01, 2012, 05:29:12 pm
Dunno but it was keeping good time earlier in the week.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 01, 2012, 05:47:10 pm
The floral clock has stopped at 10.13.

It'll still be right twice a day though, which is more often than CCBC are right  :P
Bit of a generalisation there, B2R? You don't think your remarks might be offensive to those CCBC staff that are competent at their jobs?  :P

 L0L All I can say is that in my "experience" I have yet to see any CCBC staff who are good at their jobs - sure there are a few though  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on September 02, 2012, 10:12:29 pm
First time there has been an evening like this ,this year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ludo on September 02, 2012, 10:43:09 pm
First time there has been an evening like this ,this year.

What a beautiful picture! - thanks for sharing it. My goodness, I miss my home town sometimes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 02, 2012, 11:29:39 pm
Indeed Medz!

I 'tweeted' a similar picture this evening, (albeit much inferior to your own) ... taken from near to the camera obscura.

Evenings like this in Llandudno are just blissful.  So Mrs Fester and I made the most of it, ...we went to town and then Valentino's restaurant for a superb night out!   Z**

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 03, 2012, 06:35:38 pm
I noticed that lots of yellow paint marks have appeared on the pavements by Victoria Centre - are we finally going to see some repairs carried out? The state of the pavements along Mostyn Street is an embarrassment and downright dangerous to those not too steady on their feet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 03, 2012, 07:59:42 pm
Do we know what Ian has got planned for Sunday at the Happy Valley and willCCBC have cut the grass in preperation for the big day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Craigydonian on September 03, 2012, 08:10:18 pm
Buy the Weekly News on Thursday and you will see the details accompanied by an excellent David Roberts Photography pic of Miss Alice and Ian.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 03, 2012, 08:38:53 pm
Buy the Weekly News on Thursday and you will see the details accompanied by an excellent David Roberts Photography pic of Miss Alice and Ian.

Would that be the one already posted on Facebook? 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 03, 2012, 08:40:05 pm
Lets just hope they cut the grass in the Happy Valley for Ian,if you mention that on Thursday it will be done,the power of the press.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on September 03, 2012, 11:40:03 pm
The floral clock has stopped at 10.13.
Still not working today.
Can't say I am surprised it's a dreadful design.
I predict it will be either trashed or removed
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 04, 2012, 07:26:12 am
I blame the cheap batteries the council bought
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 04, 2012, 07:48:41 am
Have they got it running off solar power? That will keep stopping it this summer! _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 04, 2012, 08:24:19 am
Its a pity we did;nt see the design before it was built,then people could have told the council it needs to be seen,i hope they get the Alice in Wonderland xmas lights right(if of course they have even discussed them)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 04, 2012, 08:31:25 am
How is the Daffodil planting going,not knowing when they should be planted im just curious,its a great idea,as are the crocus waves we see in Craigside and along Gloddaeth,i first saw this in Harrogate about 7 years ago and thought then how spectacular they looked.Do we know where all the Daffodils are to be planted
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 04, 2012, 08:57:13 am
Its a pity we did;nt see the design before it was built,then people could have told the council it needs to be seen,i hope they get the Alice in Wonderland xmas lights right(if of course they have even discussed them)
It's a very good point. All too often, these decisions are taken without any public consultation. In the age of the Internet, it's very easy to stick a proposed design etc up on the Council website and invite opinions from the, er, people that are paying for it..
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2012, 09:26:32 am
In the age of the Internet, it's very easy to stick a proposed design etc up on the Council website and invite opinions from the, er, people that are paying for it.

Have you seen the Council Web Site?   A five year old child in the first year of IT lessons could do better.  Problem is they had a cheap job done with similar cheap maintenance, very little information of use to the public and updates about 2 years adrift time-wise!

It needs someone to ask about what the whole sheebang is costing us!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 04, 2012, 09:38:00 am
In the case of the Floral Clock, I was thinking of the CCBC website which is pretty good.  $good$

The Town Council website is not good -I'd personally recommend they go for a simpler design, powered by a Wordpress backend - makes adding and updating information as simple as making a post on the Forum.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2012, 11:17:49 am
Maybe you could find other than a kind way of telling them!     ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 04, 2012, 12:27:09 pm
They can;t be that thick,surely one of them can sort out the website,Venue Cymru;s is bad now,why change i don;t know
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 04, 2012, 12:32:18 pm
This would be your reply,we are the elected,we decide,not some lowlifes on a forum,if we want a website that gives nothing then thats what we will have,the less they know on the forum the better.A handful must read this forum but no real interest in Llandudno apart from their politics or the Penrhyn ward.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 04, 2012, 01:11:43 pm
You have to laugh; on this page of the Town Council's website, they even spell Llandudno as 'Llanduidno':

http://www.llandudno.gov.uk/wales-in-bloom/wales-in-bloom-2012-results (http://www.llandudno.gov.uk/wales-in-bloom/wales-in-bloom-2012-results)

Truly awful.... &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 04, 2012, 01:55:07 pm
I see their pictures at the top of the page still show Penmorfa standing! Also their picture of the North Shore beach shows no weed / algae, how out of date is that?  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2012, 02:00:06 pm
You have to laugh; on this page of the Town Council's website, they even spell Llandudno as 'Llanduidno':
Truly awful.... &shake&

The speelin of meny a Kownsillor leevs a lott two bee dishired.  Punk chew ashun; is, allso ! Sumtymes , not write?  Was it", _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 04, 2012, 03:24:18 pm
We saw the floral clock today, and I was surprised to see it's a very old and well-tested design. The fingers of the clock require small bedding plants in them, but it's clearly too late for this year. However, the whole Alice themed concept is superb. It's clear that the floral clock is intended to be the Rabbit's pocket watch, and the other Alice statues around are remarkable and exquisitely done. The timing might well have been out, but the emergence of the older-folk holiday period that starts this week is a great time to introduce the Alice theme and I really think the Llandudno Councillors have done extremely well, if it was they who originated the concept.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2012, 04:18:31 pm
...... The timing might well have been out, but the emergence of the older-folk holiday period that starts this week is a great time to introduce the Alice theme and I really think the Llandudno Councillors have done extremely well, if it was they who originated the concept.

Llandudno Town Council would not have had the foresight to originate or even organise such an enterprise.   Look at the cock up they make of the Alice themed Xmas lights!  Also they would not have had the budget to undertake the project.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 04, 2012, 11:59:18 pm
We saw the floral clock today, and I was surprised to see it's a very old and well-tested design. The fingers of the clock require small bedding plants in them, but it's clearly too late for this year. However, the whole Alice themed concept is superb. It's clear that the floral clock is intended to be the Rabbit's pocket watch, and the other Alice statues around are remarkable and exquisitely done. The timing might well have been out, but the emergence of the older-folk holiday period that starts this week is a great time to introduce the Alice theme and I really think the Llandudno Councillors have done extremely well, if it was they who originated the concept.

Hi Ian,
It was nice to see you, (and Mrs Ian) again today.
You are a tall chap, and you can likely see most of the floral clock from your lofty standpoint.
But, at 5ft 9in, I can see less than a quarter of the face of the clock.
As for the children, they will surely see none of it.
Don't you think that is a fundamental error in the planning of this attraction?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Welshmunchkin on September 05, 2012, 01:28:39 am
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Hi Ian,
It was nice to see you, (and Mrs Ian) again today.
You are a tall chap, and you can likely see most of the floral clock from your lofty standpoint.
But, at 5ft 9in, I can see less than a quarter of the face of the clock.
As for the children, they will surely see none of it.
Don't you think that is a fundamental error in the planning of this attraction?




I have to agree about the setting of the clock. I'm 5ft.1ns, and couldn't really see anything! Nice idea but a bit more thought as to the angle of the face would have been nice,

Just added the quotes:  all you need to do is highlight the text you want to enclose in quotes, then click the little quote icon above.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Welshmunchkin on September 05, 2012, 01:32:10 am
I don't post on here usually, sorry, don't know how to put the quote in a box ( I'm sure you know what I mean!)
 was trying to quote Fester.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 05, 2012, 07:51:13 am
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Don't you think that is a fundamental error in the planning of this attraction?

I've seen these before, Fester, and the problem is that for the hands to be planted with flowers, the clock can't be too much out of horizontal. Not sure what the solution is.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2012, 08:21:39 am
It's not perfect, but when the fencing is removed, people will be able to get closer and view it properly.

It still says 10.13am though.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on September 05, 2012, 08:47:28 am
At least it shows the right time twice day. ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2012, 09:56:20 am
I see some idiots have damaged the flower bed next to the toilets at Bog Island by jumping all over it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on September 05, 2012, 11:05:14 am
I see some idiots have damaged the flower bed next to the toilets at Bog Island by jumping all over it.

That's why we lost heart with the Happy Valley Gardens. Every week-end throughout the summer for years now we have watched uncontrolled children being allowed to run riot by their parent(s). Flowerbeds, such as they were, didn't impede their progress one little bit. They were almost capable of doing as much damage as the Goats and the Gardeners combined. And before you ask, no we haven’t joined friends of the Happy Valley as that would be a complete waste of our time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2012, 11:27:22 am
Cheer up, Blongb, you're like a black cloud hovering over the town! Vandalism is, fortunately, still relatively rare, and may have even decreased in recent years.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on September 05, 2012, 12:31:40 pm
Yeah, some things are better I think. I remember a lot more graffiti back in the 80s and 90s for example, with random 'tags' appearing around the town quite often. Vandalism of that variety seems to have gone out of fashion.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 05, 2012, 06:52:51 pm
I just bumped into about 10 councillors in Augusta st,i think they were measuring up for new Alice in Wonderland xmas lights.Cll howarth told me she appreciated all the nice comments i have put on here about her,just a shame nothing ever gets done.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2012, 09:46:02 pm
Yeah, some things are better I think. I remember a lot more graffiti back in the 80s and 90s for example, with random 'tags' appearing around the town quite often. Vandalism of that variety seems to have gone out of fashion.
I remember, about 5 years ago, I badgered the council to powerwash all the graffiti off the Collonades (which it had acquired over quite a few years). Since then, there has been practically no new graffiti.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 05, 2012, 10:33:17 pm
Cheer up, Blongb, you're like a black cloud hovering over the town! Vandalism is, fortunately, still relatively rare, and may have even decreased in recent years.

I'm confused... Dave R reports an incident of vandalism,  then BlongB chips in to agree with him, and mention other incidents... then Dave R criticizes BlongB and says vandalism is rare?   My head hurts....

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2012, 10:34:33 pm
 &shake&  &shake&  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 05, 2012, 10:34:49 pm
Cheer up, Blongb, you're like a black cloud hovering over the town! Vandalism is, fortunately, still relatively rare, and may have even decreased in recent years.

I'm confused... Dave R reports an incident of vandalism,  then BlongB chips in to agree with him, and mention other incidents... then Dave R criticizes BlongB and says vandalism is rare?   My head hurts....

 L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 06, 2012, 07:26:46 am
I'm confused... Dave R reports an incident of vandalism,  then BlongB chips in to agree with him, and mention other incidents... then Dave R criticizes BlongB and says vandalism is rare?   My head hurts....

I was chatting to someone a few days ago and their comment was that they thought there was too much back-biting and petty criticism on the Forum which is why they had not joined this happy throng.   The "happy throng" are my words.   
 >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 06, 2012, 07:32:13 am
All part of the fun though isn't it, this is one of the friendlier forums as well!

If we had....

'the grass is nicely cut today' with the reply 'oh yes it is' it would be very dull indeed  L0L

If we all agreed there could be no discussion!  ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2012, 08:14:52 am
Very true, ME.  $good$

Yorkie's friend must like the Forum really, otherwise why would they keep looking at it...?  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 06, 2012, 09:07:43 am
All part of the fun though isn't it, this is one of the friendlier forums as well!

If we had....

'the grass is nicely cut today' with the reply 'oh yes it is' it would be very dull indeed  L0L

If we all agreed there could be no discussion!  ££$

I'm sorry I tottaly disagree with that. I think the forum would be much better if we all agreed and were nice  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 06, 2012, 09:35:23 am
I agree!  $good$ no I don't  :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2012, 09:46:03 am
Born to Run,

Get Stuffed, (see you at Darts by the way)

Yours,

Fester....  L0L L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on September 06, 2012, 11:59:10 am
Just saw a man squirting weeds in Madoc Street but he was missing quite a lot.  Don't kinow how I kept quiet.  There are new weeds grosing amongst the old ones from the last time they were treated! :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 06, 2012, 01:31:54 pm
Trouble there being that the dead remains never get shifted and they look worse than the live ones !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 06, 2012, 02:49:35 pm
The floral clock has stopped at 10.13.

At 11.20am this morning the floral clock was showing 12.05pm.  &shake&


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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on September 06, 2012, 04:35:58 pm
Cheer up, Blongb, you're like a black cloud hovering over the town! Vandalism is, fortunately, still relatively rare, and may have even decreased in recent years.

Dave you are quite right I should lighten up, after all I did choose to live in Llandudno and I still don't want to live anywhere else.  $walesflag$ It's the little things that seem to be getting under my skin. Thank you Festor for comming to my aid much appreciated $good$ I'll just have to find a way of relaxing a bit more  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 06, 2012, 10:08:01 pm
 ;DPlease somebody find something to talk about,Oscar is quiet and so is this forum. :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on September 06, 2012, 10:22:48 pm
The floral clock has stopped at 10.13.

At 11.20am this morning the floral clock was showing 12.05pm.  &shake&


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The hands and movement will end up being removed and the whole thing filled with flowers or weeds!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 06, 2012, 10:47:59 pm
I still haven't seen it on foot, only driven past it! Must see what it's like in case it all goes!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on September 06, 2012, 10:58:13 pm
I still haven't seen it on foot, only driven past it! Must see what it's like in case it all goes!
Well it's not going now :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2012, 07:10:33 pm
no we haven’t joined friends of the Happy Valley as that would be a complete waste of our time.
You have an impersonator then on the FB group for Friends of Happy Valley!  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 11, 2012, 07:08:28 pm
Has everyone gone on holiday or have the council put something in the water to shut everybody up,or is it really that quiet at the moment,nothing going on at all.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 11, 2012, 07:52:59 pm
I've been pretty busy lately, so not so much time to post at the moment, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 11, 2012, 08:26:56 pm
Same here! In fact I haven't got time to post this!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on September 11, 2012, 09:55:32 pm
Anyone know if the 'floral' clock is working yet?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 11, 2012, 11:40:48 pm
No, at 10am today it was showing 12.05.

It was saying the same as walked past at 4pm.

However, I understand that it was correct at 12.05!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 11, 2012, 11:55:33 pm
It will be correct again in 10 minutes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 12, 2012, 08:02:00 am
No, at 10am today it was showing 12.05.

It was saying the same as walked past at 4pm.

However, I understand that it was correct at 12.05!

Today it was showing Detonator time  D) 8.1!! (Sorry only me and Fester will understand this reference)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 12, 2012, 03:48:16 pm
Yes Born to Run...... last night was DETONATOR night....  $good$ $good$

Sorry all,  B2R and I were part of a team (darts team) that hammered a team who were league champions.... But no longer!  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on September 12, 2012, 04:57:20 pm
no longer part of the team, or no longer champions? and why were you using hammers in a darts match.? lol
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 12, 2012, 05:05:19 pm
no longer part of the team, or no longer champions? and why were you using hammers in a darts match.? lol

Fester uses the hammers to get our subs off us week  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2012, 10:05:05 pm
Fester the treasurer? Let's hope he doesn't invest it all in Lenigas shares...  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 14, 2012, 05:52:23 pm
As things are so quiet let guess what might get us talking again,maybe the collapse of the Clarence or the station, or even the start again of the Clarence and the station.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2012, 07:01:40 pm
There was a meeting of great Llandudno minds at Caffe Nero this afternoon; it was a good job that no cameras were present.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 14, 2012, 08:20:57 pm
Yet no gossip for us.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2012, 09:35:09 pm
None that can be repeated on a public Forum, Wrex...  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 14, 2012, 10:09:32 pm
Dave are you sure you mean THREE great minds??

It's just that that there were only three of you at the meeting.... surely you don''t count yourself in that number????   :laugh:

Please check again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 14, 2012, 10:19:59 pm
Was this the 'meeting of minds' that you referred to?

Gooj and Dimitri - a meeting of minds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu0lb8H-PKE#ws)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 14, 2012, 10:23:03 pm
...... or I suspect that it was more like this;

The Big Dirty - Drust Strut (with LoveSpinDance) - Meeting Of The Minds 3 - 12 September 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFvg8fTrNIE#ws)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2012, 11:03:01 pm
Dave are you sure you mean THREE great minds??

It's just that that there were only three of you at the meeting.... surely you don''t count yourself in that number????   :laugh:

Please check again.

I don't think I mentioned a number....?

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There was a meeting of great Llandudno minds at Caffe Nero this afternoon; it was a good job that no cameras were present.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: 1_rob_1 on September 14, 2012, 11:08:20 pm
Ok, two then.   _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 14, 2012, 11:31:44 pm
There was a 'meeting of two minds' in my kiosk the other week.....

In the old days it used be known as a head-butt!  _))* _))* :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: 1_rob_1 on September 14, 2012, 11:43:37 pm
If Dave was included in that number, (2) I wonder if he has a headache then?   _))*    _))*
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 14, 2012, 11:52:01 pm
Ha ha,  no.... he's way too tall,  I would need a step ladder! 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2012, 07:45:15 pm
...and a death wish.

Was in Rhyl today, some of their flower displays are magnificent and all their water features work:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: viv on September 15, 2012, 11:32:07 pm
I had the misfortune to be invited to the Gala night of the Giddy Goat Festival at Venue Cymru on Friday night. All I can say is that I'm glad that I was given a free ticket,because I would have asked for my money back if I'd paid £16! I left at the interval, but prior to that I had had to sit through alternative comedians (and I use the word comedians loosely) who just weren't funny. The language used by all of the ones who I saw was appalling and although there were some witty and dry bits of humour in there, they were marred by the language. There was no warning that bad language was going to be used, and the performers knew that there were young (16 year olds) and very elderly audience members, but there was no toning down. There was an idiot with a suitcase who is apparently on some tv or radio show ( was it Norman from Watford) -I could hardly understand what he was saying due to the way he screamed most of it!) and again his language was foul.  It was a charity night for St David's Hospice and I was embarassed for them to be honest.

What really amazed me was that people were finding it funny and were laughing  - I really felt old as I come from the entertainment by Frank Carson, Les Dawson and Morecambe and Wise who were funny and clean. If this is the sort of humour that people now enjoy, it is not surprising that people behave and speak the way they do in the street and to each other. 

I was not amused.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: viv on September 15, 2012, 11:48:02 pm
as an addition to my previous post I have checked the names of the "artistes". Compere Stephen K Amos was quite funny and fast - but do I care about his cock ? Arthur Smith - a forgettable performance -bad language again and poor content anyway . Matt Rees -young guy, quite dry and witty, spoilt again by language. Barry from Watford (not Norman!) - no idea what this was all about - again bad language. There were 2elderly ladies outside when I left and they were saying that they were disappointed, but at least their money had gone to a good charity. Like me they are unlikely to go to another Giddy comedy show.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 16, 2012, 08:38:01 am
Funny Dave should post the pics of Rhyl, we passed through there last Weds and commented how bright and cheery the flower beds looked.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2012, 09:02:05 am
Funny Dave should post the pics of Rhyl, we passed through there last Weds and commented how bright and cheery the flower beds looked.
They do make more effort in Rhyl, just a shame they don't have Llandudno's natural beauty to work with.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 16, 2012, 09:25:41 am
I too was in Rhyl yesterday and thought the floral displays were great Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on September 16, 2012, 06:07:14 pm

Destination Conwy

Tourism is an important part of the Conwy economy, supporting 10,820 full-time equivalent jobs directly or indirectly, bringing £559m revenue to the County's economy annually (25% of the All Wales total); and supporting 70,000 bed spaces (24% of North Wales stock). As such, it is one of the mainstays of Conwy's economy and is a major source of employment and revenue.

The benefits are increasingly shared across the County; with visitors spending on accommodation, food and drink, leisure activities and shopping. Non-tourism businesses also benefit through local supply chains, such as the wholesaler who supplies restaurants and the local garage where visitors are supplied with fuel.

Tourism also has a critical value to the wider community; particularly in the rural areas where many goods and services are only available to the resident community and remain viable because of visitor spend. This wider economic benefit to the destination is referred to as the Visitor Economy and is far more wide reaching than the direct impact of just the tourism element alone.

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/sectionextra.asp?cat=10222&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/sectionextra.asp?cat=10222&Language=1)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 16, 2012, 09:18:43 pm
As tourism is so important too Conwy Borough why the hell did they let the parks dept leave the whole borough looking such a mess for the whole season,does;nt make sense to me,not bringing in more tourist by means of the Venue Cymru Arena,does;nt make sense,its as if they are not jelling together as an authority.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2012, 09:26:54 pm
Both very valid points, Wrex. Presentation of public spaces, in particular, can have a massive impact on how a town/area is viewed by visitors.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on September 17, 2012, 11:06:04 am
As tourism is so important too Conwy Borough why the hell did they let the parks dept leave the whole borough looking such a mess for the whole season,does;nt make sense to me,not bringing in more tourist by means of the Venue Cymru Arena,does;nt make sense,its as if they are not jelling together as an authority.

I've asked for the lack of weed control, no flower displays and the xmas lights to be on the agenda for the next Destination Conwy meeting.
Minutes of the last meeting of Destination Conwy Steering Group, 21st June 2012, The Quay, Deganwy  http://bit.ly/Oww9ai (http://bit.ly/Oww9ai)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2012, 02:27:19 pm
Anyone know if the 'floral' clock is working yet?

It has been removed.

I presume it has been taken away for repair.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2012, 05:33:34 pm
As tourism is so important too Conwy Borough why the hell did they let the parks dept leave the whole borough looking such a mess for the whole season,does;nt make sense to me,not bringing in more tourist by means of the Venue Cymru Arena,does;nt make sense,its as if they are not jelling together as an authority.

I've asked for the lack of weed control, no flower displays and the xmas lights to be on the agenda for the next Destination Conwy meeting.
Minutes of the last meeting of Destination Conwy Steering Group, 21st June 2012, The Quay, Deganwy  http://bit.ly/Oww9ai (http://bit.ly/Oww9ai)
Good work, Dwsi!  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 17, 2012, 08:28:25 pm
I have just watched A Summer in Wales on BBC,and oh dear ,not a good advert for Llandudno,thay had John Jones the donkey man on complaining about the state of the beach and that he thought they might of cleared it by now,i think it was recorded about May,of course i was screaming at the telly,most people think i talk through my backside but there on national telly is somebody saying what i have been saying all Summer,CCBC should be ashamed and now it offical on the BBC.  PS the floral clock has dissapeared
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 17, 2012, 08:46:05 pm
What do you mean, it has disappeared?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on September 17, 2012, 09:19:37 pm
It looked to me like the movement (works) was far too small and not up to the job.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 17, 2012, 09:20:37 pm
quite alarming that this steering group talked about the state of the town beach in June and yet still CCBC did absolutly nothing about it,not a clean up nothing ,very poor show,now highlighted on national tv ,classic.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 17, 2012, 09:27:03 pm
I know its easy for us to come on here and criticise,but to think not one councillor came out and said that the town beach is a mess and we demand some action,not one in town or county bothered to fight the corner and lets be honest it is an important part bof the town and tourism,how many people must have been to Llandudno this year and gone home saying ,nice place but poorly maintained and don;t go there for the beach.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2012, 07:39:52 am
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It looked to me like the movement (works) was far too small and not up to the job.

Curious.  Where I've seen this sort of floral clock installed, they've always been completely flat. I wonder whether the angle was partly to blame?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 18, 2012, 08:35:27 am
I expect that it will be relegated to the same place as the Welcome to Llandudno sign and the White rabbit-- forgotten in a corner.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on September 18, 2012, 08:36:55 am
Should not make any difference if the hands have counter balances on them. Cant remember if these did or not, guessing not though!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 18, 2012, 08:47:05 am
I expect that it will be relegated to the same place as the Welcome to Llandudno sign and the White rabbit-- forgotten in a corner.
Along with the Windmill that used to be on the Carlton roundabout!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 18, 2012, 09:33:46 am
Yes indeed Dave !
Just made a point of walking past-- Even the flowers have gone-- we now have a sloping concrete bowl with a bit of soil in the bottom. yeuk !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 19, 2012, 12:53:51 am
How long before the Floral Clock is moved across to the 'Eyesores' thread?

Its poor design has been flagged up before on here, as has the ridiculous timing of the construction during the peak season.  Then we had the ludicrous situation whereby the contractors downed tools for a fortnight for holidays.

After all that, for the mechanism itself not to work is unforgivable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 19, 2012, 07:25:33 am
No point in knocking CCBC they seem to enjoy making cock ups in Llandudno,the more we moan the more they ignore and make cock ups.Went to see Startlight Express last nite,part of it is 3D ,a brilliant show,so colourfull,great singing ,worth supporting on for 2 weeks
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on September 19, 2012, 09:26:48 am
I wonder if the clock is being kept in storage over winter?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on September 19, 2012, 10:16:08 am
How many other public clocks can you think off that are removed for the winter months?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 19, 2012, 11:17:28 am
Haven't room for Big Ben myself Mike-- have you? :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on September 19, 2012, 08:45:37 pm
may be waiting till the clocks go back, October
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 19, 2012, 10:42:13 pm
may be waiting till the clocks go back, October

look's like the clocks gone back a few weeks early!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on September 21, 2012, 10:47:17 am
             Just come over Penrhyn Hill and there is a cherry-picker being used on the two vacant "Welcome to Llandudno" pylons. Could it be that they are short of storage in the council depot, now that the floral pocket-watch has been "put back for the winter", and will be putting the sign back up to create some more space ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 22, 2012, 11:45:46 am
What a lovly day what a nice place to live in,lets just remember that is why we try to influence the Lloyd st mafia into improving it .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 22, 2012, 05:40:56 pm
The sign is back up at the top of Penrhyn Hill, looks great! It has 'Croeso' underneath in matching letters, well done to those who did it  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 23, 2012, 11:03:11 am
I've just had a look at the Marine Traffic site and a very large Royal Fleet Auxilary is passing by us right now, her name is Orange Leaf.
Trouble is we don't get to see anythong of these ships now because it looks like they have to pass the other side of the wind farm.
Here is the link for those of you who don't have it.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on September 23, 2012, 12:49:21 pm
That's a fascinating link tosh, thanks.
I passed it on to my husband who is busy looking at all the ships as I write!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 23, 2012, 01:58:39 pm
Hollins.
It isn't there at the moment but, a new destroyer, HMS Duncan has been doing sea trials coming out of Glasgow into the Firth of Clyde and Atlantic/Irish Sea.
Keep looking.
Now he will be able to tell you when the ferries are leaving and arriving at Holyhead, WOW. ;-}

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on September 23, 2012, 02:08:30 pm
Yes, I have already had a running commentary!
 $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 23, 2012, 03:31:19 pm
SORRY;-)
The novelty wears off after a few months, yeah right.
Cheers.
 :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2012, 08:38:58 pm
Great event on the Prom this afternoon, a Zumbathon in aid of St Davids Hospice, organised by Paula & Clare from Moverz N Shakerz. Everyone had a really great time! Fester asked me to get some photos...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 23, 2012, 10:37:49 pm
I've never heard of zumbathon before?  ??? Whatever it is they seem to like it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 23, 2012, 10:41:42 pm
Zumba,  a fusion of fitness and dancing.  An exercise based on movement and latin music.

Its been around for a few years, and plays to packed houses.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 23, 2012, 10:49:49 pm
Fitness and dancing, no wonder I've never heard of it!  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 26, 2012, 11:09:49 am
Check out the Marine Traffic site, yesterday an American submarine on the surface and today a very large American Fleet Auxilary up at Firth of Clyde.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2012, 06:46:48 pm
I took a look on marinetraffic.com  and stumbled across this vessel, purely by chance.

It's the Llandudno Bay, and its moored at....... GRIMSBY!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 26, 2012, 07:48:53 pm
Hi Fester, there a few of these around named after our local bays, they are used as fast reponse boats for the wind farm generally.
It's nice to see our name in lights, isn't it?
I saw Trearddur Bay coming down the estuary at Conwy 2 weeks ago and Penrhyn Bay is about somewhere.
It is very interesting though.
Sometimes they have their transponders switched off especially the military.
Have you had a look at the English Channel, it is like the M6 down there.
My ambition is to see the USS Nimitz sailing up St Georges Channel.
Tosh
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on September 26, 2012, 10:23:52 pm
If you get bored looking at the ships try www.flightradar24.com (http://www.flightradar24.com) and you can look up and see the planes going over.  The north Wales coastline is like the M1 for traffic between the Middle East and USA !!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2012, 11:48:10 pm
DVT, I've seen that as an app for the iphone.... very addictive, as you see a plane going over at 30,000ft, who could resist having a look at where its heading?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on September 27, 2012, 12:44:23 am
I downloaded a similar app on my iPad (PlaneFinder HD) and found it very addictive, you see a plane in the sky and it'll tell you the type of aircraft, which airline, where it's going from & to, the speed, altitude & flight number. It covers all continents so you can look at aircraft over the US & Asia too. I'm by no means a plane spotter but I quite enjoy using the app to pass the time when I'm bored.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 27, 2012, 09:42:38 am
I sent the aircraft one to a friend who lives in Congleton Cheshire which is directly under the flight path from Manchester.
He says he doesn't want to know what MIGHT land on him so he refuses to look at it.
I agree, it is good.
Have you all seen the Chinook activity lately, wonderful machines, two together last week.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 27, 2012, 09:56:26 am
 Yes I've seen the Chinooks flying overhead, yesterday and last week, good to see!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 28, 2012, 12:58:38 pm
There are more Minesweepers than you can shake a stick at around Scotland today.
The Sound of Mull has a few which are Norwegian, Danish & Dutch.
The Firth of Clyde and surrounding areas has a frigate or two PLUS, HMS Dauntless our very own RN destroyer.
HMS Dragon has been known to frequent home waters, she is not traceable at the moment which probably means she is operational.
She used to have a very large red dragon painted on her bows but the MOD said to reduce the size as it was too aggressive, it's a warship, it's supposed to look aggressive.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gaylord Screwsby on September 28, 2012, 01:24:39 pm
Is there a mine issue the government are keeping quiet? :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 28, 2012, 01:56:39 pm
As the saying goes Gaylord,,,,, what's yours is mine and what's mine's my own.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on September 29, 2012, 07:31:59 pm
There's a dirty old American fleet auxilary just south west of the Isle of Man sailing north and HMS Kent a county class frigate is heading south from the Firth of Clyde.
Could be fireworks later.
The American ship looks like the one which James Cagney was the skipper on with the potted palm on the bridge.
Was it Henry Fonda who was the ensign?
I wonder if Fester will know the name of the film?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on September 30, 2012, 07:06:30 pm
Film called if my memory serves me correctly was Mr Roberts, or possibly Mister Roberts
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 01, 2012, 09:24:43 am
Yup Cat, you are not wrong.
Just Googled it and the ship was rightly named, USS Reluctant.
Thanks Cat.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on October 01, 2012, 09:44:45 am
All military activity in /off west coast of Scotland is Exercise Joint Warrior.
Started today for 2 weeks.
Anyone heading up this way especially hill walkers need to be aware that at certain times and loctions sat navs will be disabled.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 01, 2012, 11:27:24 am
Nice one Mull.
I'll keep my eye on that.
There was an exercise last year and just as it got interesting, they turned their transponders off.
 ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 01, 2012, 12:48:30 pm
Further to Mull's comment here is the link to the BBC site giving the details. of the exercise.
Brilliant.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-17727083 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-17727083)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on October 02, 2012, 12:21:51 am
Off topic I know.

Full details of current Joint Warrior exercise on " For Argyll " websight.

A long way from the Great Orme.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 02, 2012, 07:18:13 pm
The Llandudno Town Council website has fallen apart again. A Wordpress backend and modified design template is what they need. Easy to set up, maintain and very reliable. All my websites run that way.

http://www.llandudno.gov.uk/ (http://www.llandudno.gov.uk/)

Index of /

    cgi-bin/
    public_html.zip

Apache/2.2.23 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.23 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at www.llandudno.gov.uk (http://www.llandudno.gov.uk) Port 80
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on October 02, 2012, 07:30:15 pm
 these days you can run a website on an ipad while sitting down in the local coffee shop  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 02, 2012, 07:41:13 pm
these days you can run a website on an ipad while sitting down in the local coffee shop  ;D
So I believe....  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 02, 2012, 08:20:16 pm
The Llandudno Town Council website has fallen apart again. A Wordpress backend and modified design template is what they need. Easy to set up, maintain and very reliable. All my websites run that way.

http://www.llandudno.gov.uk/ (http://www.llandudno.gov.uk/)

Index of /

    cgi-bin/
    public_html.zip

Apache/2.2.23 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.23 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 Server at www.llandudno.gov.uk (http://www.llandudno.gov.uk) Port 80

They are at present having some difficulties which are now being sorted out by a Specialist, in fact working on all the systems, mail and web this very day.   You probably hit the site whilst this work is being done.  Give it a daŷ or so.   Another major change is also on the cards but that will be in a few weeks time.  We are then promised a solution that should give us the Service we are entitled to expect.   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 02, 2012, 08:53:57 pm
A specialist to sort out a tiny website and email system? Are you kidding me....someone's getting an easy pay day.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 02, 2012, 09:04:30 pm
A specialist to sort out a tiny website and email system? Are you kidding me....someone's getting an easy pay day.  :laugh:

No I am not kidding you!   :o  Local Service company have been unable to resolve the problem over a considerable period, so new man has taken over the situation. Initial action looks promising.   Watch that space! 
££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 03, 2012, 03:49:24 pm
I don't know if I've missed it anywhere else but,,,,,,,, THE CLOCK IS BACK and working.
 D) D) D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 03, 2012, 03:59:59 pm
yes but for how long :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 03, 2012, 04:45:24 pm
Time will tell! _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 03, 2012, 06:01:23 pm
Looks as though they aren't wasting any more flowers in it-- they have put a layer of turf instead--- easier to take up again ??? :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 03, 2012, 07:43:32 pm
So now it isn't a floral clock but a lawned clock.
Just doesn't have the same kind of ring to it, does it.
Never mind, don't get all wound up about it.
 _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on October 03, 2012, 08:36:08 pm
Hope no-one grasses on you for such comments.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 03, 2012, 09:49:43 pm
what happens when the grass gets long ? won,t be able to see the clock :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2012, 10:47:52 pm
Everyone deserves a SECOND chance, but on the FACE of it, I should give you all a TICKING off!

On the other HAND, it is high TIME there was some MOVEMENT on this issue.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 04, 2012, 08:27:28 am
Anyone else see the chappie on the North Shore beach yesterday p.m. making large stone sculptures with piles of pebbles? Hadn't the camera on me, worse luck, but he was causing alot of interest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 04, 2012, 12:33:12 pm
Oh Fester, I think on the FACE of it it's a WIND up.
The FINGER of suspicion is pointing at you but do not be ALARMED.
STRAP yourself in and keep your BALANCE.
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on October 04, 2012, 01:07:42 pm
Perhaps it will be sorted by the 'Spring'  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 04, 2012, 04:54:46 pm
         It's nice to have (H)OUR clock back again. The council have requested that the public keep a WATCH on it, and if there are any problems at any TIME, DIAL them and they have promised not to FOB you off. :o :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: 1_rob_1 on October 04, 2012, 07:11:28 pm
The clock may be there now, - - -  but it will be going back on the 28th      ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2012, 07:19:50 pm
They were all out in force in Llandudno today...besides Johnny Pondo dancing round the bollards by Bog Island, there was man with a beard, dressed as Wonder Woman pushing a toy gorilla in a pram, dancing to the Scissor Sisters. Photo courtesy of H from Steps, who took it! Perhaps its Goronwy Edwards out canvassing?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 04, 2012, 07:37:01 pm
 _))* I like the title of the picture in the bottom left hand corner!  L0L. Was he doing it for a bet??
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2012, 08:00:55 pm
_))* I like the title of the picture in the bottom left hand corner!  L0L. Was he doing it for a bet??
I don't believe so.  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2012, 08:03:28 pm
I was walking past Broadway Boulevard nightclub this afternoon, when I noticed that some large pieces of masonry had collapsed from the facade above. They were certainly of sufficient size to have killed anyone walking underneath. I'd advise everyone not to walk too close to the building, particularly if there is heavy rain or high winds.
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Post by: wrex on October 04, 2012, 09:57:09 pm
OMG thats all this town needs at the moment,only nite spot closed due to building regs
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 04, 2012, 10:42:14 pm
I think the floral clock may be running slow when I just passed by in the car.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 04, 2012, 11:49:39 pm
Interesting pictures today Dave.
Firstly, I think that the 'Nutter' is great, and I hear that behaves more ridiculously each day.
I was going to advocate that we have a dedicated 'Nutters of Llandudno' thread, but I realise that it is only a matter of time before I appear on it myself.

Secondly, I notice on the Broadway picture that all the shadows are perfectly parallel, just as they should be.
Unlike all the pictures on the Apollo 11 lunar landings?  Very strange..  :laugh:

Also, I see you blame MASON-ry for the problems outside the Broadway.  Yet another conspiracy do you think?  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2012, 08:57:41 am
Secondly, I notice on the Broadway picture that all the shadows are perfectly parallel, just as they should be.
Unlike all the pictures on the Apollo 11 lunar landings?  Very strange..  :laugh:
Strange? Not really...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/photogalleries/apollo-11-hoax-pictures/photo5.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/photogalleries/apollo-11-hoax-pictures/photo5.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2012, 09:41:18 am
OMG thats all this town needs at the moment,only nite spot closed due to building regs
Better than having people dying, I'd have thought, Wrex?! The whole of the Boulevard building is in a poor state, lot of work is needed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 05, 2012, 10:40:16 am
           Just walked past JJB Sports outlet on Champneys ("Closing down sale, everything must go, 50% off marked prices etc.") and it looked like a war zone in there, with stock and shoppers everywhere. I spoke to a member of staff and she said that she had been drafted in from Shirebrook, Derbyshire to help out here, along with others. She told me that they are getting in more stock every day to replace what is shifted, and the store will be re-opening as Sports Direct when everything is sorted out.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 05, 2012, 01:52:59 pm
I think the floral clock may be running slow when I just passed by in the car.  &shake&

Yup, sadly it is 23 minutes slow.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gaylord Screwsby on October 05, 2012, 06:21:34 pm
           Just walked past JJB Sports outlet on Champneys ("Closing down sale, everything must go, 50% off marked prices etc.") and it looked like a war zone in there, with stock and shoppers everywhere. I spoke to a member of staff and she said that she had been drafted in from Shirebrook, Derbyshire to help out here, along with others. She told me that they are getting in more stock every day to replace what is shifted, and the store will be re-opening as Sports Direct when everything is sorted out.

I visited the store in Rochdale today and the situation was similar. A friend queued for three hours to pay. Crazy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 05, 2012, 07:58:30 pm
Perhaps and this is a long shot,,,,,,, the clock is programmed to lose the hour automatically, bit by bit or minute by minute, so they don't have to do it all at once on the 28th.
See, you lot didn't think of that did you?
Simples.
 D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 05, 2012, 11:08:18 pm
           Just walked past JJB Sports outlet on Champneys ("Closing down sale, everything must go, 50% off marked prices etc.") and it looked like a war zone in there, with stock and shoppers everywhere. I spoke to a member of staff and she said that she had been drafted in from Shirebrook, Derbyshire to help out here, along with others. She told me that they are getting in more stock every day to replace what is shifted, and the store will be re-opening as Sports Direct when everything is sorted out.

Yes, the whole JJB/Sports Direct business is in a massive state of flux.
Following the administration of JJB it was quickly decided to funnel the stock from 120 JJB stores into the remaining 20 which will stay open and re-named Sports Direct.
My wife has the task this coming week, of organising three trucks per day to take stock from each of the 120 JJB stores, and deliver it to the 20 Sports Direct shops. That's 360 loads.    A lot of cheap stock will be on offer for some time to come!

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 06, 2012, 12:30:24 am
OMG thats all this town needs at the moment,only nite spot closed due to building regs
Better than having people dying, I'd have thought, Wrex?! The whole of the Boulevard building is in a poor state, lot of work is needed.
The whole of the area under the canopy has now been cordoned off.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 06, 2012, 12:31:14 am
           Just walked past JJB Sports outlet on Champneys ("Closing down sale, everything must go, 50% off marked prices etc.") and it looked like a war zone in there, with stock and shoppers everywhere. I spoke to a member of staff and she said that she had been drafted in from Shirebrook, Derbyshire to help out here, along with others. She told me that they are getting in more stock every day to replace what is shifted, and the store will be re-opening as Sports Direct when everything is sorted out.

Yes, the whole JJB/Sports Direct business is in a massive state of flux.
Following the administration of JJB it was quickly decided to funnel the stock from 120 JJB stores into the remaining 20 which will stay open and re-named Sports Direct.
My wife has the task this coming week, of organising three trucks per day to take stock from each of the 120 JJB stores, and deliver it to the 20 Sports Direct shops. That's 360 loads.    A lot of cheap stock will be on offer for some time to come!
Great way to kill your medium term business....  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 06, 2012, 12:33:06 am
They were all out in force in Llandudno today...besides Johnny Pondo dancing round the bollards by Bog Island, there was man with a beard, dressed as Wonder Woman pushing a toy gorilla in a pram, dancing to the Scissor Sisters. Photo courtesy of H from Steps, who took it! Perhaps its Goronwy Edwards out canvassing?
The guy dressed as Wonderwoman yesterday was wandering around town dressed as a Prussian(?) General today and was busy having a conversation with the stuffed monkey.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 06, 2012, 07:40:18 am
What is it about this town that attracts so many nutters.
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Post by: wrex on October 06, 2012, 07:41:24 am
Wonderwoman will be on the town council before long.
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Post by: DaveR on October 06, 2012, 08:31:57 am
Another pic (from Facebook):
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Post by: Paddy on October 06, 2012, 03:38:46 pm
This guy must have a "story".  Is there a reason why he's doing this?  Has anyone spoken to him?  Where does he get his costumes from?
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Post by: wrex on October 06, 2012, 05:13:46 pm
He was wearing another dress this afternoon PS Llandudno had a good away win in the Welsh cup at Porthmadoc
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 06, 2012, 05:16:24 pm
This guy must have a "story".  Is there a reason why he's doing this?  Has anyone spoken to him?  Where does he get his costumes from?

1)  Advance publicity to get everyone curios - I cannot say more!    Z**

2)  His employer.    ;)

3)  Or is he just making a monkey out of us all?   ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 07, 2012, 12:17:33 am
I note that the eccentric gentleman is today wearing a 19th Century Hussar cavalry tunic.  (a la Zulu and Rourke's drift)
He is also sporting an entirely incongruous Roman centurion's battle helmet.

Whereas the monkey is appropriately bedecked in a very small sized Chelsea Pensioners full-length military frock-coat.
His owner has tried to pass him off as been similarly attired to himself, but the eagle-eyed amongst you will soon detect the flaw in his plan.

This tells me that the monkey has access to a much wider range of costume than his owner.  ?{}?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 07, 2012, 06:41:35 am
But the monkey has no helmet!  :o. (A sentence that I never thought I would say a few days ago!  _))* )
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 07, 2012, 08:25:13 am
Sounds like a 'Disaster' in the making, to me...  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 07, 2012, 05:48:22 pm
Just been having chat with a fellow forum member at the Rest and Be Thankful and we saw the Isle of Man.
We agreed that it is a very clear day but neither of us have seen it from that level before, it's usually on the summit that it is visible.
The wife and I both agree that it was nice meeting you both.
Tosh       :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 07, 2012, 05:50:31 pm
There was a great view of the Isle of Man earlier from the Rest and be Thankful cafe, I tried taking some pics, but they were not clear enough to bother posting. I've never seen it that well before! Nice to meet a member of the forum too, Hi, Tosh and Mrs Tosh, a very pleasant chat!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 07, 2012, 08:42:34 pm
Just been having chat with a fellow forum member at the Rest and Be Thankful and we saw the Isle of Man.
We agreed that it is a very clear day but neither of us have seen it from that level before, it's usually on the summit that it is visible.
The wife and I both agree that it was nice meeting you both.
Tosh       :)

Another conspiracy?? They have either moved the Isle of Man, (or perhaps The Great Orme).... and not told us! 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on October 07, 2012, 09:51:07 pm
If I remember right, it's a weather phenomena called 'superior mirage' which makes things look closer than they really are. Warm air above a cold layer creates a lens effect.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 07, 2012, 10:22:42 pm
If I remember right, it's a weather phenomena called 'superior mirage' which makes things look closer than they really are. Warm air above a cold layer creates a lens effect.

DWSI is............... IN ON IT !
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Post by: dwsi on October 07, 2012, 10:27:19 pm
 8
If I remember right, it's a weather phenomena called 'superior mirage' which makes things look closer than they really are. Warm air above a cold layer creates a lens effect.

DWSI is............... IN ON IT !

 ;D D) $walesflag$  $thanx$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 07, 2012, 11:02:03 pm
This is what we saw, but it was a lot clearer to the naked eye, if only DaveR had been there with his camera!



(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/PA030355.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 07, 2012, 11:32:42 pm
That's really amazing, ME...not the Isle of Man....but that you paid the Toll to go around the Marine Drive? Tell me it's not so!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 07, 2012, 11:41:27 pm
 :laugh: if you followed the forum, you would know that I have the pass for £15 a year, which covers 3 cars.  :P  &shake&  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 08, 2012, 09:00:32 am
           On the subject of the abnormal visibility yesterday, I walked over the Little Orme and was struck by the particularly clear view. You could see all the new bases for the turbines that have been laid for the new Gwynt-y-Mor windfarm (see pics. but apologies for the quality, it's only a cheapie camera!) and with binocs you could pick out buildings in Liverpool such as the Cathedral etc. It made me realise what a lovely area we are lucky enough to live in, and also how beautiful the bay looks when the tide is in and you can't see the "green belt" on the foreshore!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 08, 2012, 09:52:55 am
Fester, the next time the Conspiracy Club meets up on the Orme we will invite you.
There is life above sea level you know.
I have heard of cabin fever but not kiosk fever, you must get out more.
 L0L      D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 08, 2012, 10:12:53 am
In support of Fester, it is noticeable that yesterday the Isle of Man was visible from the car park of the 'Rest and Be Thankful' Café but not from the top of the Little Orme.  *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 08, 2012, 10:17:04 am
I didn't really think that they had moved the Isle of Man, Bri...

But now, given what you have said.....  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 08, 2012, 11:51:31 am
Not sure if it was a very low tide or something but i could see the Lake district mountains from the top of Bodnant rd, very unusual.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 08, 2012, 12:24:23 pm
About 5 years ago we saw Blackpool Tower using binoculars from the trig point by the cable car winder on the Great Orme.
It was October on a nice cool evening.
I think you can also see the tall buildings at the Barrow in Furness ship yards occasionally.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 08, 2012, 01:33:31 pm
Here is a rough guide to calculation of how far the horizon is on a clear day.

This calculation should be taken as a guide only as it assumes the earth is a perfect ball 6378137 metres radius. It also assumes the horizon you are looking at is at sea level. A triangle is formed with the centre of the earth (C) as one point, the horizon point (H) is a right angle and the observer (O) the third corner. Using Pythagoras's theorem we can calculate the distance from the observer to the horizon (OH) knowing CH is the earth's radius (r) and CO is the earth's radius (r) plus observer's height (v) above sea level.

Sitting in a hotel room 10m above sea level a boat on the horizon will be 11.3km away. The reverse is also true, whilst rowing across the Atlantic, the very top of a mountain range 400m high could be seen on your horizon at a distance of 71.4 km assuming the air was clear enough.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 08, 2012, 05:19:08 pm
I hate physics
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Post by: Tosh on October 08, 2012, 06:03:39 pm
I hate any kind of exercise.
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Post by: Tosh on October 08, 2012, 06:04:51 pm
Sorry, I forgot to put ,,,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 08, 2012, 08:17:22 pm
Dave, Ive just been looking on at your vour first entry on this post back in 2010. Simple beginnings and now we are on page 136 on thereabouts!!!   How about a What's Colwyn Bay Like Right Now? Or even a Rhos version. At least you, I, Welshmaid, White Rabbit could put a bit out. Mike  Apologies to any Rhos readers/writers I have omitted.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 08, 2012, 10:16:07 pm
I think the floral clock may be running slow when I just passed by in the car.  &shake&

Yup, sadly it is 23 minutes slow.

Good news.  $good$

The floral clock is running on time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 09, 2012, 09:56:30 am
but will it be right in 3 weeks time bri  $donald$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2012, 01:09:59 pm
Oscar is reporting that: "Someone in trouble. 2 police cars and ambulance still stationary by trinity sq and traffic single line."

Anyone know more?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 09, 2012, 05:19:35 pm
Been a fair amount of bother with our inebriated community in the last couple of days. We had to call the police to a brawl in Lloyd Street yesterday afternoon. People were scurrying into the charity shop for sanctuary. Two blokes were knocking hell out of each other in the road.
Later on a pair of women sitting outside the town hall were falling off the bench complete with cans of Strong Bow. The same pair were on the seats by the library just after lunch today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2012, 09:04:44 pm
Oscar is reporting that: "Someone in trouble. 2 police cars and ambulance still stationary by trinity sq and traffic single line."

Anyone know more?
Apparently, an elderly man walked out in front of a bus to cross the road and was hit by a car.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 09, 2012, 11:26:21 pm
Hopefully, members of our local constabulary are still looking on the forum, and may feel moved to comment about the police patrols these days.

After all, the police are familiar with the local anti-social types, and will no doubt be keeping regular tabs on them.

On the subject of the chap getting knocked down, well that is very sad and I hope he fully recovers....

.... BUT, I have said this before on the forum, that I have never known a town like Llandudno where people casually walk out into the road with no regard for traffic coming either way.  It drives me nuts to be honest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 10, 2012, 09:52:56 am
today,s daily post  conwy council spending £ 600,000 +on putting tonnes of sand on colwyn bays beach, it definetly won,t be taken from our beach , :rage: $donald$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2012, 10:03:11 am
I have said this before on the forum, that I have never known a town like Llandudno where people casually walk out into the road with no regard for traffic coming either way.  It drives me nuts to be honest.
I do it all the time, I have to be honest. There's certain roads where it is customary to do so, like when you're crossing Lloyd Street between HSBC and NatWest or St Georges Place between Caffe Nero and Cafe Culture.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 10, 2012, 10:46:52 am
Is there a hidden message there about your lifestyle - flitting twist Banks and Coffee Shops?   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2012, 05:40:02 pm
Looks like a big delivery of either kitchen equipment or furniture has arrived at the American Disaster.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 10, 2012, 06:40:22 pm
Looks like a big delivery of either kitchen equipment or furniture has arrived at the American Disaster.

Will it be open by next summer I wonder?  :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 10, 2012, 07:20:08 pm
I have said this before on the forum, that I have never known a town like Llandudno where people casually walk out into the road with no regard for traffic coming either way.  It drives me nuts to be honest.
I do it all the time, I have to be honest. There's certain roads where it is customary to do so, like when you're crossing Lloyd Street between HSBC and NatWest or St Georges Place between Caffe Nero and Cafe Culture.

So you weren't paying attention in school when you were instructed to 'look left,look right etc...'' before stepping out in the road.  &shake& &shake&
Either that, or you possess steel legs?

I just hope you are not feeling 'run-down' in the to come....  ^*^0
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 10, 2012, 07:50:06 pm
  I think I am correct in saying where there are predestrians ALREADY crossing the road on junctions such as you mention, they have precidence and the car should stop or reduce speed. I always do this if someone is well into crossing a wide road---like the island by the Carlton.  Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on October 10, 2012, 09:13:38 pm
Looks like a big delivery of either kitchen equipment or furniture has arrived at the American Disaster.

I saw the lorry there too towards 7pm  parked partly on the pavement. I'm sure from its size, and length particulary, that there could well be a few more cracked paving slabs for the unsuspecting pedestrian to trip over!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2012, 11:05:23 pm
  I think I am correct in saying where there are predestrians ALREADY crossing the road on junctions such as you mention, they have precidence and the car should stop or reduce speed. I always do this if someone is well into crossing a wide road---like the island by the Carlton.  Mike
Wise words, Mike.  $good$ Thanks for the little present via Fester, as well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 11, 2012, 12:50:35 am
Dave / Mike, you are making a very different point there gentlemen.

I agree that if I am driving down Mostyn St, for example and someone is halfway across the road, of course I would slow down and allow them to complete the crossing, who wouldn't?

What I am referring to are those who walk out into the road with no intention of looking left or right. It happens all the time.
(Its teenagers usually), or even worse they look at the driver with a look of contempt or disdain as if they have no right to be driving on 'their' road.   $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 11, 2012, 06:57:49 am
Quote
What I am referring to are those who walk out into the road with no intention of looking left or right. It happens all the time.

This reminds me of when our kids were very young.  I would watch with horror as young mothers would push their baby into the road in their buggies to stop traffic. They seemed utterly unaware of the fact that, while they were safe, the child in its buggy was about 3 - 4 feet further out and quite likely to be clipped by a passing lorry or bus.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 11, 2012, 07:30:32 am
Often I see pedestrians either on mobile phones or iPods just stepping right out into the road without looking!  &shake&   DaveR could you wear a hi viz coat so us poor drivers can see you on the road  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 11, 2012, 05:37:56 pm
My OH told me to treat Mostyn Street as if I was driving through a car park. Since taking her advice my speed and heart rate have reduced dramatically and I go home each night with the warm feeling that at least half-a-dozen people are alive as a direct result
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 11, 2012, 06:26:41 pm
Often I see pedestrians either on mobile phones or iPods just stepping right out into the road without looking!  &shake&   DaveR could you wear a hi viz coat so us poor drivers can see you on the road  ;D

What we need is a "Pedestrian Test" for non driving road users!  Bring in strong fines and prison for Jaywalking.   _))*

Also drivers of mobility scooters could do with some lessons in road and pavement craft, and be made aware that the pavements are not a disabled race track and that scooter should give way to walkers. :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on October 11, 2012, 09:41:37 pm
Often I see pedestrians either on mobile phones or iPods just stepping right out into the road without looking!  &shake&   DaveR could you wear a hi viz coat so us poor drivers can see you on the road  ;D


Cyclists can be just as bad with regards to iPods. I once had a girl ride under & get trapped by the lowering barriers at Deganwy Quay crossing, she managed to get free with the help of a motorist waiting at the lights & phoned me at the Signalbox. I could hear the crossing warning sound in the background as she spoke to me but when I pointed this out to her she admitted to not hearing it because she was listening to her iPod whilst riding, she could give no reason for ignoring the lights.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 14, 2012, 09:44:26 am
Did Cll Greg Robbins ever achieve anything about the pier pavillion,i seem to remember that it was part of his mayorial speech to get it sorted.With eyesores like the pier,the Clarence,Tudno Castle,augusta holiday flats what can anyone do until a major investor decides to move,the town has now started to slip back with the closure of Stead and Simpsons,book publishers .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2012, 05:08:35 pm
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/l/red-bull-stratos/ (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/l/red-bull-stratos/)
Sunday afternoon 5-09 pm.
Click on the link, the American is half way up to his jump point for the highest jump from 23 miles above the earth.
It's LIVE now
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Post by: Yorkie on October 14, 2012, 07:19:35 pm
Absolutely FANTASTIC!!!!    ZXZ
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Post by: Tosh on October 14, 2012, 07:34:30 pm
I agree totally, that was the best 2 hours of my life this year.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 14, 2012, 08:39:55 pm
So what did we miss that was so fantastic?

They said on the BBC news his brain might turn to mush?   I assume that didn't happen?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: 1_rob_1 on October 14, 2012, 08:43:15 pm
I think his brain must already be mush for him to do something like this
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on October 14, 2012, 11:01:37 pm
Sorry if it's already been talked about on the forum recently but what is the extensive development taking place currently on Bodafon fields? Is it the much talked about housing development ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on October 15, 2012, 12:50:04 am
No !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on October 15, 2012, 07:48:01 am
Sorry if it's already been talked about on the forum recently but what is the extensive development taking place currently on Bodafon fields? Is it the much talked about housing development ?

It is the redevelopment of Ysgol Gogarth
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 15, 2012, 12:43:54 pm
Its not the Alice in Wonderland theme park,that comes next.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on October 15, 2012, 01:42:04 pm
Thank you.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on October 15, 2012, 08:37:30 pm
What was so special about this fella doing a jump wearing a space suit.

Billy Connolley did his bungee jump in the nude.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 16, 2012, 04:57:55 pm
What was so special about this fella doing a jump wearing a space suit.

Billy Connolley did his bungee jump in the nude.

If Felix Baumgartner had tried that his blood would have boiled, but I wish he had tried to do a bungee jump as well. That really would have been worth watching  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 16, 2012, 08:03:16 pm
Just tried to go on the town council website to see what happening with their xmas parade,it is still down.There are loads of website designers so why is it taking so long.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 16, 2012, 08:10:48 pm
Long story.  Major problems with web and mail for a few weeks now.    At a meeting yesterday with a council rep I was led to believe that the whole system will soon be up and running again.  I did suggest they found a new company to look after the Council's IT interests and give the people a decent service. ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 17, 2012, 07:56:01 am
They could probably find a volunteer to do it for nothing - and better.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 17, 2012, 09:22:14 am
They could probably find a volunteer to do it for nothing - and better.

Does that mean that you are volunteering?    _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 17, 2012, 10:32:47 am
Oh, no :-)))))))))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 18, 2012, 09:56:32 am
Nice mention on the one show last night'rickshaw challenge for children in need,a group of children are riding a richshaw from llandudno to london,we need to find out were they are leaving from and when
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 18, 2012, 11:29:48 am
As all the local Politicians will be desirous of getting some publicity it will probably leave with the Blessing of the Town Mayor from the Town Hall in Lloyd Street.   ZXZ

Good luck to those taking part!   $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 20, 2012, 07:32:31 am
Town Council web site seems to be up and running again!   Still with the same old rubbish though!   &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 20, 2012, 11:09:25 am
Nice mention on the one show last night'rickshaw challenge for children in need,a group of children are riding a richshaw from llandudno to london,we need to find out were they are leaving from and when

'Team Rickshaw' will be made up of  six youngsters, all of whom have been either supported by or still are supported by BBC Children in Need-funded projects. They will embark on the arduous journey on the morning of Friday 9 November from Llandudno   and will attempt to complete the marathon 411-mile journey in eight days, arriving at BBC Television Centre for The One Show's BBC Children in Need special on Friday 16 November on BBC One.
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Post by: DaveR on October 20, 2012, 12:17:56 pm
The Floral Clock is not working properly again.  :(
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Post by: Mikethewatch on October 20, 2012, 06:54:53 pm
It's a bad design and will never work properly.
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Post by: Yorkie on October 20, 2012, 07:38:58 pm
It's a bad design and will never work properly.

As an expert, may I suggest that you pen a suitable letter to the Council and advise them accoringly?

I will certainly be passing comment to my own County Councillors.    ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 20, 2012, 10:06:56 pm
Forgot to add this photo of the West Shore Cycle Track form a week or two back. It shows the hilarity of the cycle track being buried under about 4 feet of sand for a couple of hundred feet or more:
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Post by: Fester on October 20, 2012, 10:16:03 pm
Good Lord!

There could even be missing cyclists buried under that mountain of sand..... its ridiculous!!
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Post by: mull on October 21, 2012, 01:21:03 am
There was always sandhills between West Shore and Deganwy.

What has changed ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 25, 2012, 03:06:58 pm
The plot of land at the western end of Abbey road on the left is showing signs of developent
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Post by: Yorkie on October 25, 2012, 04:43:30 pm
The old tennis courts.  I noticed it as I left Dew's Cafe today and no doubt it will be another block of flats by the look of the ground works so far. D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 26, 2012, 04:33:20 pm
There was a great view of the Isle of Man earlier from the Rest and be Thankful cafe, I tried taking some pics, but they were not clear enough to bother posting. I've never seen it that well before! Nice to meet a member of the forum too, Hi, Tosh and Mrs Tosh, a very pleasant chat!

Next month, there will be public exhibitions in the area of the Three Towns Forum on the proposed Rhiannon Wind Farm.

From what I have seen so far it seems to be advertised off Holyhead and Anglesey.

However, upon closer inspection of the plans Merddin Emrys will have a far better chance of having a clear view of the Isle of Man from Holyhead rather than Llandudno after Rhiannon has been built.

BTW, it is the bit within the red  edging.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 29, 2012, 08:14:06 am
               At the end of the excellent "How Britain worked" progamme on Channel 4 last night, which is hosted by Guy Martin who some people might know as a very accomplished motor-cycle road-circuit racer and TT star, the trailer for next week's programme announced that it would feature some of the preparations required for getting the Victorian resort of  Llandudno ready for this year's summer season.
           It previewed some of the work being done on the Pier Head and also featured the Great Orme Tramway and also a feature on  the Town Band. The programme is being broadcast next Sunday Nov.4th on Channel 4 between 2000-2100 hrs.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 29, 2012, 08:49:19 am
This probably links with this thread:

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1897.msg52458.html#msg52458 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1897.msg52458.html#msg52458)
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Post by: mull on October 29, 2012, 10:36:03 am
Rhiannon windfarm.

Looks very close to the shipping lanes.
Has anyone considered how they would cope with another "Riverdance" incident with a ship drifting though a windfarm ?
Not much chance of rescue by heliopter with all those blades spinning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2012, 10:50:02 am
Police appeal over suspicious fire at Gimbert's, Llandudno

Police and firefighters are investigating a suspicious blaze at a disused shop in Llandudno, Conwy.

Emergency services were called to Gimbert's in Mostyn Street at 05:30 GMT on Sunday and extinguished the fire.

There were no injuries, but a joint investigation is under way.

Det Insp Mark Chesters appealed for witnesses to call police on 101, adding: "This could have been far more serious had it not been for the prompt actions of the fire service."

The residents of the three flats above the shop were alerted and checked by attending fire crews and police.

North Wales Police said anyone with information can contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.
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Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2012, 04:48:47 pm
Just been past Gimberts, what's happened is someone has smashed the glass in the front door, poured petrol or similar through, then set fire to it. Being as the shop itself is empty, I suspect it's someone having a go at the occupants of the flats above. The stupidity of it beggars belief.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 29, 2012, 07:25:03 pm
Had a quick walk through Happy Valley and along the Pier earlier, only had the iPhone on me but got a few nice (albeit slightly grainy) shots:
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Post by: hollins on October 29, 2012, 07:33:59 pm
Wow! They are brilliant.
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Post by: Yorkie on October 29, 2012, 07:35:34 pm
Wow! They are brilliant.

Very nice and most apt for Halloween!    WWW  WWW   WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 29, 2012, 09:31:23 pm
Not a sign of either of the two windfarms, Rhyl Flats and North Hoyle, on your second photo. I am sure that if they had been visable they would be showing up
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Post by: Fester on October 29, 2012, 10:34:45 pm
There were at least TWO people on that pier.... I should have been open!!    $booboo$ $smack$
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Post by: Tosh on October 31, 2012, 04:23:47 pm
Well folks it's time for Tosh to sling his hook.
I am going back to my place of birth 90 miles away, it isn't that I don't like you all it's just that duty calls plus a little bit of homesickness
thrown in for good measure.
I have really enjoyed taking part in the Forum and especially enjoyed finding and providing the Trade Directory information, I hope that it is useful for anyone researching their past.
I especially enjoyed spending a good hour with Merddin Emrys and his wife at the Rest and Be Thankful on that Sunday afternoon a few weeks ago.
Judging by our conversation, we are kindred spirits.
I even got to meet Fester who took a break from counting his money to chat amiably for a few minutes.
I wish you all the best for the future and thank you for your time.
Tosh
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Post by: Fester on October 31, 2012, 04:41:27 pm
Cheers Tosh, and good luck.
You can keep on the Forum from 90 miles away you know?

As I understand it, the internet extends almost as far as Yorkshire these days!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 31, 2012, 05:19:24 pm
Fester, do you mean that they have electricity in Yorkshire nowadays?
I don't think Staffordshire has caught up yet but we'll see.
Cheers
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 31, 2012, 05:48:43 pm
Tosh, keep on the forum and yes it was a good chat we had some weeks ago, looking at the Isle of Man  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 31, 2012, 06:22:24 pm
Thanks folks, I'll see how it goes, give me a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 01, 2012, 08:50:56 am
Cheers Tosh, keep in touch with us all and Good Luck for the future.
Nem. ££$
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Post by: wrex on November 04, 2012, 01:13:46 pm
Nice to see the cable cars still going in November,i doubt they have had a very good year so i hope they manage to keep going.
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Post by: hollins on November 05, 2012, 09:41:58 pm
Thank you Llandudno for a wonderful firework display and thank you the Seahorse restaurant for a delicious monkfish wrapped in parma ham on a sun dried tomato risotto, mmmmm.........
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on November 05, 2012, 10:11:59 pm
I agree Hollins, was a good display! Nice to see so many thousands of people the whole length of the promenade enjoying themselves.   $cool$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 05, 2012, 10:25:50 pm
great pics, we enjoyed it very much and ideal mild weather too!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1000512.jpg)

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 06, 2012, 07:43:46 am
Was it simply my impression or did the display take longer to really get going this year?  I liked the use of relay loud speaker vans to have the music and commentary all round the prom and the finale was excellent.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 06, 2012, 11:40:59 am
Thanks for the pics all-- it looked a great display.
Can't say the same for your monkfish Hollins--  ;D-- I really dislike fish, so that made me feel faintly queasy. Glad you enjoyed it though.!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on November 06, 2012, 12:15:30 pm
O'h no Nemesis, sorry about that!
I can't comment on your question Ian because that was the first display we have ever seen.
We were stood by the camera obscura and everyone up there was so friendly.
A special thanks to the kind man that switched his phone on so that the light from it lit up the steps for my 86 year old mother to safely climb down.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 06, 2012, 12:31:30 pm
Thanks for the pics all-- it looked a great display.
Can't say the same for your monkfish Hollins--  ;D-- I really dislike fish, so that made me feel faintly queasy. Glad you enjoyed it though.!

We watched a display of fireworks from our upstairs bedroom with a nice plate of Sausage and Mash with my own fabulous Onion Gravy, from a tray on our laps.   We watched all the small family displays in the local area and they were every bit as exciting as the Council's presentation.   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 06, 2012, 03:35:27 pm
That sounds more up my street Yorkie. I eat most things, but fish? no thanks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 06, 2012, 04:35:18 pm
That sounds more up my street Yorkie. I eat most things, but fish? no thanks.

They were reet good Cumberland sossiges them were, as well!   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 06, 2012, 05:00:01 pm
 $dins$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 07, 2012, 08:09:21 am
The former Publishers Book Clearance shop is up for rent at £49k a year, plus another £29k in Business Rates.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 07, 2012, 08:35:29 am
The former Publishers Book Clearance shop is up for rent at £49k a year, plus another £29k in Business Rates.

Does that include a "cover" charge?     D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 07, 2012, 09:51:31 am
The former Publishers Book Clearance shop is up for rent at £49k a year, plus another £29k in Business Rates.

It's amazing that any shops remain open with such high overheads as that!  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 07, 2012, 11:32:07 am
On a 6 day week that's £250 a day come rain or shine!  Add on Staff, Heating, Lighting, Insurance, Stock-losses, repairs and renewals, plus cleaning, phone and a dozen other bits and pieces and you have got to turn over a tidy sum before there is a penny piece of profit.

There is little encouragement for anyone to start in the Retail business these days.   :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 07, 2012, 02:09:44 pm
I noticed that new street lights are currently being installed on Llewelyn Avenue. Shiny aluminium posts with what looks like metal halide lamps. Given CCBC's current obsession with upvc windows in Conservation Areas, how do they justify such modern street lighting in the same streets?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2012, 03:13:58 pm
Strikes me it doesn't matter if CBC does it !
On a practical side it is 'orribly dark up there at night-- hope it will be brighter !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 07, 2012, 08:09:05 pm
A new vets seems to be opening in Builders st in the old smokery.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 08, 2012, 09:53:30 am
Nice mention on the one show last night'rickshaw challenge for children in need,a group of children are riding a richshaw from llandudno to london,we need to find out were they are leaving from and when

'Team Rickshaw' will be made up of  six youngsters, all of whom have been either supported by or still are supported by BBC Children in Need-funded projects. They will embark on the arduous journey on the morning of Friday 9 November from Llandudno   and will attempt to complete the marathon 411-mile journey in eight days, arriving at BBC Television Centre for The One Show's BBC Children in Need special on Friday 16 November on BBC One.

Does anybody have an further information on this?

I can find nothing in today’s NWWN and the Pioneer says it leaves today from the Pier Gates.

I can believe it leaves from the Pier Gates but I think it may leave tomorrow and not today.

I understand Matt Baker from The One Show is also involved.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andyCYD on November 08, 2012, 11:13:21 am
The website to look at is http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008dk4b/features/rickshaw-2012-about (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008dk4b/features/rickshaw-2012-about)

Says it leaves Friday 9th, but does not give a time. They need to be in Dolgellau by about 7pm to be seen arriving on the show.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 08, 2012, 12:03:50 pm
Yes, Andy, I have also seen that and it definitely confirms it leaves tomorrow but as you say it does not state a time of departure from Llandudno or from where.

I have seen both the Town Hall and the Pier Gates mentioned previously.

Without many (if any) spectators in attendance it may reflect badly on the town, if the start is televised, for such a worthy cause as Childen in Need.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on November 08, 2012, 02:34:19 pm
The Rickshaw Challenge is The One Show's baby so I guess if you tune in tonight at 7pm all will be revealed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on November 08, 2012, 07:36:18 pm
Rickshaw leaves Pier Gates at 6am tomorrow morning for those that are interested.
I'll be tucked up in bed.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 10, 2012, 07:41:15 am
Nice coverage on the One Show last nite,i wonder who decided to start in Llandudno.
,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on November 10, 2012, 04:00:23 pm
First I'v heard about this and I read the Post and local papers right through.I also watch the one show, but on and off. They certainly havent gone mad with publicity
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 10, 2012, 04:48:05 pm
First I'v heard about this and I read the Post and local papers right through.I also watch the one show, but on and off. They certainly havent gone mad with publicity

They couldn't afford a banner advert on the Three Towns Forum due to all the impending claims for compensation they are expecting!      _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2012, 11:57:09 pm
Indeed. Banner adverts are available from £250 per annum to local businesses in the Three Towns Area only.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2012, 05:35:57 pm
Remembrance Ceremony at the Cenotaph this morning:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 12, 2012, 08:24:40 am
A very evocative picture Dave.
There was a good turn out at the cenotaph and the speakers could be heard loud and clear.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 12, 2012, 09:45:20 am
It's a great pic, almost looks like a fine engraving.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 12, 2012, 09:46:57 am
We also attended the service at the Cenotaph and can confirm the excellent attendance.

Nemesis, I believe Mr Ian Turner was asked to supply the sound system this year so I would imagine Ian will be pleased to read your feedback.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on November 12, 2012, 10:24:24 am
I noticed over on Twitter, Nigel Roberts of the newsagents getting rather excited and hopeful about some good news that's coming out with regard to Llandudno (he was 'over the moon' apparently so might be quite positive). Anyone have any ideas? I assume due to his shop being next to the Clarence that it might pertain to that, but perhaps not.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 12, 2012, 10:39:25 am
I assume due to his shop being next to the Clarence that it might pertain to that
;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 12, 2012, 10:43:42 am
Yes Bri the sound system was a great improvement on previous years, my congratulations to Ian, I'm sure far more people felt the atmosphere of the situation because they could actually hear what was being said.
 Ian 48-- I have also heard on the local grapevine that things could be happening at the Clarence. Something needs to be done, and soon, before anymore windows fall or are pushed out. Some of the actual frames look in a parlous state.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on November 12, 2012, 10:49:11 am
Cheers Dave, your winking face aroused my interest in learning more, so I went to send a pm but apparently I do not have permission to do that. Oh well, guess we'll probably find out through the usual media outlets soon no doubt *cough*.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 12, 2012, 01:47:21 pm
Cheers Dave, your winking face aroused my interest in learning more, so I went to send a pm but apparently I do not have permission to do that. Oh well, guess we'll probably find out through the usual media outlets soon no doubt *cough*.
If you click on the little envelope icon under a user's avatar, you can send them an email.   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on November 12, 2012, 02:08:30 pm
No, that doesn't appear on mine, just a globe, and a head and shoulders symbol below the avatar, with no envelope. It said when I tried to send a message that an error had occurred and that I wasn't allowed to send messages. Oh well!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 12, 2012, 02:24:23 pm
You have to update your Profile settings to say you accept email.    ;D.  Some people opt not to.

Can you see my envelope?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on November 12, 2012, 02:32:34 pm
Yes, I can. but no-one else's it would seem. Curious.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on November 12, 2012, 02:35:32 pm
Actually I take that back, I can see yours and a couple of others. Dave doesn't have one though (along with several others)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 12, 2012, 02:36:24 pm
Yes, I can. but no-one else's it would seem. Curious.
I've emailed you.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 12, 2012, 06:03:51 pm
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae359/jaymark1/RemembranceDayLlandudno2012_zps9bb98f37.jpg (http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae359/jaymark1/RemembranceDayLlandudno2012_zps9bb98f37.jpg)

A cracking image of the Cenotaph service  taken by a friend and enhanced in Photoshop.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 12, 2012, 06:12:27 pm
Some of you might have noticed the large gatherings of folk with cameras,telescopes and binoculars in and around B&Q's car park.
Over the week end and on in to today there has been a substantial number of Waxwings, over 100, feeding on the Rowan berries.Keen birders travelled miles to take a look at these handsome birds.
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 12, 2012, 07:12:59 pm
Don;t tel;l DaveR there are a 100 birds hanging around B&Q ,he will be there like a shot.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 12, 2012, 07:17:04 pm
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2012, 08:27:43 am
Don;t tel;l DaveR there are a 100 birds hanging around B&Q ,he will be there like a shot.
They flock around me now, mate.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2012, 08:28:37 am
I'm still laughing at the supposed story posted on the Llandudno Facebook group by a guy called Ron Jones:

Ron Jones
Seems many petty local arguements on the comments recently but have just seen a developers grand plan for town,financed by far east company includes new tramway infrastructure but with conditions that in return for their input, The town would provide a big enough site for northwales new mosque, as central infrastructure for islamic teaching,community centre and general fitness rooms etc as with ones in London. these building contain islamic banking,councelling ,college etc and as al halal no benefit to local shops withcatereing..sites suggested are , town hall, north western and pier pavillion sites.
Further to the plan they hope to build a wave generated powerstation which they say will be intergrated into a causeway linking the two ormes which will allow cruise liners to call in on short day trips ,with bay remaining as a laggoon ,and llandudno is one of 3 proposed areas with potential to compensate for loss of potential regenerated power in failed severn estuary barrier plans..
you need to get your councillors to be more transparent about the plans as one and not as individual schemes, and if Mosque refused ,trams fail etc ,,public meetings are needed to fight this as is a partnership of mostyn estates and the far eastern company who are also hoping to include council in partnership but at what cost
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on November 13, 2012, 01:23:15 pm
Anyone know what's happening on the scrub land next to West Shore cafe?  It is newly fenced off and there are wooden pegs here and there and now channels being dug.  Is it yet another bliock of flats for English retirees?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2012, 02:28:52 pm
It's for a model railway.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 13, 2012, 04:36:40 pm
Anyone know what's happening on the scrub land next to West Shore cafe?  It is newly fenced off and there are wooden pegs here and there and now channels being dug.  Is it yet another bliock of flats for English retirees?

Probably for British people not necessarily English.  I, and I suspect others who contribute or read this Forum, object to such racial comments.   Maybe Llechwedd would like to withdraw the remark?

I have supported North Wales with work and my taxes for the past  25 years am I then to be denied a home for my remaining years?   The Welsh should be proud that others choose this country in which to live and maybe end their days, rather than create division.   Maybe Patagonia should be recolonized by its original inhabitants?

 $walesflag$ $uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 13, 2012, 05:11:43 pm
 $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 13, 2012, 06:29:18 pm
Following on from my last comment a look at the Government migration figures reveals a very small nett immigration.   In the year to mid 2010 it was circa 1900 and the year to mid 2011 it was circa 3000.  These figures are for the whole country of Wales.   More available on the Government web site.

Perhaps Llechwedd would like all the English tourists to go somewhere else and leave Wales to the Welsh!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 13, 2012, 06:32:58 pm
Llechwedd is quite prone to those type of comments.

Its not the first time I have pointed them out on this Forum.  &shake&

I'm pretty thick skinned, but she did cause me to slightly raise an eyebrow!



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 13, 2012, 07:29:05 pm
Im Welsh and proud of it and as you all know love this damn town if not its council,but nobody should be biting  at these coments,we are all the same and most of us get on together so please don;t start a little Welsh -English hate thing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on November 13, 2012, 08:05:15 pm
well said wrex behind you 100%
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 13, 2012, 08:47:47 pm
well said wrex behind you 100%

And so say I, and my Welsh Wife from Rhos-on-Sea!

Chwarae teg. . . . . . . ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 14, 2012, 12:02:26 am
.... and you better hope I don't get my Welsh Grandparents to come round and put you straight.

It could get very unpleasant, (seeing as they have been dead these last 20 years)  :laugh:

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on November 15, 2012, 01:17:48 pm
No I'm not taking it back.  Why? Well the English pensioners who come to live here make absolutely no attempt to integrate and after years should be able to pronounce most names.  I actually met  a lady who told me she had lived in Eggleback for 25 years.  When I asked her why she couldn't pronounce Egg Lewis Bach.   I asked her why she couldn't say it properly she looked amazed and said she couldn't be bothered and other examples are Rile, Aber geeel, Sinchan,t Crisyeth and of course our old friend Bettsy Coed.  I can understand coed but Bettsy?  They are also a huge drain on the social services infrastucture of the county, free prescriptions and district nurses are over stretched.  Many live in caravans and don't pay countil taxes so I think I' entitled to whinge.  It's not racisem it's aboyt fairness and erwealising that you live in a foreign country with its own customs and traditions and you should at least try and take part and make a contribution.  I'd like to see them get away with it in France or Spain.

End of rant. :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gaylord Screwsby on November 15, 2012, 02:17:36 pm
No I'm not taking it back.  Why? Well the English pensioners who come to live here make absolutely no attempt to integrate and after years should be able to pronounce most names.  I actually met  a lady who told me she had lived in Eggleback for 25 years.  When I asked her why she couldn't pronounce Egg Lewis Bach.   I asked her why she couldn't say it properly she looked amazed and said she couldn't be bothered and other examples are Rile, Aber geeel, Sinchan,t Crisyeth and of course our old friend Bettsy Coed.  I can understand coed but Bettsy?  They are also a huge drain on the social services infrastucture of the county, free prescriptions and district nurses are over stretched.  Many live in caravans and don't pay countil taxes so I think I' entitled to whinge.  It's not racisem it's aboyt fairness and erwealising that you live in a foreign country with its own customs and traditions and you should at least try and take part and make a contribution.  I'd like to see them get away with it in France or Spain.

End of rant. :twoface:

Your inability to produce a reply in English with the correct spelling completely undermines your argument.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2012, 02:19:35 pm
Leckweth you are talking a load of krap!     My wife is Welsh but when she was a child the powers that be decided to withdraw Welsh language classes.   Needless to when pursuing her career outside of Wales there was no need to learn the language.  I am half Dutch, half Yorkshire but I have learnt some Welsh phrases.  In the family we speak, French, German, Portuguese, some Japanese, Spanish,   Welsh and a great deal of English.

It is attitudes such as yours that prevents many Industrialists and Major Companies setting up factories in the Principality.  I certainly would not even open a shop here and I know many others who feel the same way.

If you want integration then it must be tackled from both sides, including yours.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 15, 2012, 02:46:58 pm
Llechwedd, I hardly know where to start!

You state that ALL English pensioners who come to live in Wales make NO attempt to integrate?
You must have come across a few who have led you to that conclusion and disappointed you, but it certainly is not the case in the majority of people who live/work/retire here.

How do your views differ when it comes to those who moved from England to Wales during their working life? They contributed, still are in many cases, and then retire.
What about those who are English by birth, but are currently working in Wales? Whether they be 24 or 63 years old?
What about people from say, Poland? who are earning minimum wage in Wales, so pay no tax, but still retire here?
I would imagine that their pronunciation of Betws-y-coed might be worse even than an English person?

I could go on, and on..... but that's enough to wrestle with for starters.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2012, 03:15:33 pm
You state that ALL English pensioners who come to live in Wales make NO attempt to integrate?
You must have come across a few who have led you to that conclusion and disappointed you, but it certainly is not the case in the majority of people who live/work/retire here.
Are you sure about this? I've lived amongst many English retirees when I lived in Penrhyn Bay and I can't honestly think of a single one that could speak more than a few words of Welsh. All very nice people, of course, but no interest in the Welsh language or culture.

As a matter of interest, how many forum users have moved to Wales from England and can speak Welsh?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on November 15, 2012, 03:51:24 pm
You know, I was going to write a fairly long piece about this type of racist cr*p but I just can't be bothered.
Crawl back into your cave Llechwedd and sit there fermenting your hatred for the English.
Can you specify just one thing that any English person has done to upset you personally or is it something dating back hundreds of years that was done to your ancestors?



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2012, 03:52:31 pm
I did say don;t bite did;nt i,when are you going to learn,but if all the English people who retire here complained to their councillors about the lack of xmas illuminations we would now have the best display in North Wales. :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2012, 04:04:25 pm
Im looking forward to seeing the Daffodil capitol of Wales next year,its a great idea and will look good for a month( im not sure if that is right) but how are they going to market it,some times their out early and some times late so im just wondering how the council are going to do it. Im notpicking just curious,im sure all our English visitors will love them. D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 15, 2012, 04:08:48 pm
Oh dear-- what a lot of hot air !
I came from England, worked darned hard for umpteen years, I speak Spanish and French and quite a few Welsh words and phrases. I have never been to Welsh classes, mainly because when you are working 7am till many a time 11 at night they don't seem to hold them at the right time ! :(
Always, mainly because I make the effort, I have felt to be able to integrate and as most of you know I am obsessed with Welsh history and hopefully know a fair bit about the locality.
By Gum lass-- you should go to Yorkshire-- they throw sods at strangers there-- call 'em in-commed-uns !! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 15, 2012, 04:10:05 pm
Im looking forward to seeing the Daffodil capitol of Wales next year,its a great idea and will look good for a month( im not sure if that is right) but how are they going to market it,some times their out early and some times late so im just wondering how the council are going to do it. Im notpicking just curious,im sure all our English visitors will love them. D)

Good point Wrex-- Farndale daffs can vary by a month depending on the weather.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2012, 04:13:31 pm

As a matter of interest, how many forum users have moved to Wales from England and can speak Welsh?

I think many will agree, including the Welsh, that it is one of the most difficult languages to master.  And, if as you say, those moving here are of the older generation, such as I, they are unlikely to want to learn a new language.  I find many are, however, interested in the history and culture of the country.

Perhaps if the Welsh language were not thrust upon us immigrants, we would take a greater interest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on November 15, 2012, 04:24:27 pm
Whenever I have asked for a word to be repeated so I could try to pronounce it properly the person involved said it again but just as quickly somehow seeming to enjoy my struggle.
Try saying,        ETRURIA      WYBUNBURY    CHOLMONDLEY 
Go over to Cheshire and Staffordshire, they won't laugh at you but they will try to help you to pronounce the words properly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2012, 04:34:49 pm
Or even try Scotland with the one word Kirkudbright!  Or what about Strathaven or can a Welshman or woman correctly pronounce Edinburgh?


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 15, 2012, 05:02:38 pm
Uh ho... Can open.... worms everywhere!!!

To answer your question Dave, I can only count to six in Welsh, which I recall is one less than you..  D) D)

Diolch Yn Fawr!  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2012, 07:14:07 pm
Perhaps if the Welsh language were not thrust upon us immigrants, we would take a greater interest.
How is it thrust upon you? I'm intrigued....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2012, 07:15:50 pm
Whenever I have asked for a word to be repeated so I could try to pronounce it properly the person involved said it again but just as quickly somehow seeming to enjoy my struggle.
Try saying,        ETRURIA      WYBUNBURY    CHOLMONDLEY 
Go over to Cheshire and Staffordshire, they won't laugh at you but they will try to help you to pronounce the words properly.
I imagine if you had lived in the area for 25 years though, as the women in Eglwysbach had, you would be conversant with the pronunciation of the various names?  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2012, 07:45:15 pm
Perhaps if the Welsh language were not thrust upon us immigrants, we would take a greater interest.
How is it thrust upon you? I'm intrigued....

In that case I will leave you to with your thoughts on the matter and leave a full justification for the comment until we are able to have a tete a tete.   :D


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2012, 08:15:15 pm
Perhaps if the Welsh language were not thrust upon us immigrants, we would take a greater interest.
How is it thrust upon you? I'm intrigued....

In that case I will leave you to with your thoughts on the matter and leave a full justification for the comment until we are able to have a tete a tete.   :D
Nicely dodged.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2012, 08:22:52 pm
Perhaps if the Welsh language were not thrust upon us immigrants, we would take a greater interest.
How is it thrust upon you? I'm intrigued....

In that case I will leave you to with your thoughts on the matter and leave a full justification for the comment until we are able to have a tete a tete.   :D
Nicely dodged.  $good$

To save boring the readers with a 1500 word diatribe, lets meet up!   Most days, almost anytime will do me.   >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 15, 2012, 09:12:16 pm
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the English pensioners who come to live here make absolutely no attempt to integrate and after years should be able to pronounce most names.

Why?  Language is dynamic, and pronunciation isn't set in stone.  English (and Scottish) place names are pronounced differently according to which region of the United Kingdom  people originate from. South Wales pronunciation, for instance, is often quite different from North Wales. D'you seriously think you're unique in your self-righteous indignation? This goes on across the United Kingdom.  There really are more important things in life than how someone pronounces a place name.

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They are also a huge drain on the social services infrastucture of the county, free prescriptions and district nurses are over stretched.

But these are United Kingdom citizens, who - presumably - have paid their national insurance and taxes towards the upkeep of the United Kingdom for the whole of their working lives and who now actively contribute through their taxes, spending power and participation in the local communities.  What gives you the right to decide in which part of the United Kingdom citizenry ought to be allowed to live? 

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Many live in caravans and don't pay countil taxes so I think I' entitled to whinge.

Do you have any evidence for that? I'd be interested to see it, if you have.  What proportion of the population live in caravans, what is their nationality, what proportion pay taxes and NI?  If you can't produce evidence, then you're simply being prejudiced, racist and bigoted. And that has no place in this forum.

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It's not racisem it's aboyt fairness and erwealising that you live in a foreign country with its own customs and traditions and you should at least try and take part and make a contribution.

Sorry - so you really think Wales is a 'foreign country'?  Have you any idea what constitutes a 'foreign country'? In the dictionary definition, it's "any state of which one is not a citizen".  Now, that would mean you would not be a UK citizen, nor entitled to hold a UK passport.  Anyone who is, however, is as much entitled to live in Wales, Scotland or England as anyone else. To suggest otherwise is - as I've said - bigoted, racist and ignorant.

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I'd like to see them get away with it in France or Spain.

Well, you've clearly not lived among the ex-pat communities in those countries because, otherwise, you'd know that they do. 

This sort of divisive, ignorant posting is what causes most of the problems in the world today.  From Arabs and Israelis, to Chinese and Taiwanese, the two most powerful forces responsible for death and destruction on this planet are Nationalism embodied in Language and religion. The sooner everyone wakes up to the fact that this is a small world and we're all part of it, the sooner we'll all learn to live together.


 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on November 15, 2012, 10:02:20 pm
WOW Ian, that's sorted that out.
I wish that I could have put it so eloquently.
Well done sir.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 16, 2012, 12:30:00 am
Indeed Tosh.

I have had my posts dissected and dismantled by Ian in a similar way in the past... it hurts, but its impressive.
(Cough, cough, fake lunar landings)  :laugh:

On this occasion I have to applaud every word he writes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 16, 2012, 08:29:16 am
On this occasion I have to applaud every word he writes.
Really?  ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 16, 2012, 08:36:41 am
lets meet up!

When ? ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 16, 2012, 08:46:16 am
lets meet up!

When ? ;D
Are you going to have a chat with Yorkie?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 16, 2012, 01:15:17 pm
Now that would be interesting ! :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 16, 2012, 01:40:17 pm
Now that would be interesting ! :twoface:

Just to repeat an old phrase or saying... I'm intrigued .....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 17, 2012, 07:39:12 pm
Very busy today,i must have counted 15 coaches here for the day,the only other Saturday you get that many is extravaganza saturday,so it a big well done to the organizers for bringing in so many visitors. D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 17, 2012, 08:22:33 pm
Very busy today,i must have counted 15 coaches here for the day,the only other Saturday you get that many is extravaganza saturday,so it a big well done to the organizers for bringing in so many visitors. D)

15 is nothing Wrex.   A typical Saturday can be over 50 coaches.  Bank Holidays bring in as many as 150 coaches in the day.   Remember they mostly park up in Builder Street Coach Park and only load and unload at Mostyn Broadway.   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 17, 2012, 09:16:23 pm
I think Yorkie your figures might of been right 30 years ago,but noway do we get more than 10 coaches on any Saturday even Bank holiday Sats except extrava,i hope you are able to get the figures but im certain your figures are wrong,although they sound great.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 17, 2012, 09:35:18 pm
Inside information, and personal experience. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 18, 2012, 09:33:18 am
If i was you Yorkie i would start getting your info from another insider,and how long is it since you worked on the coach park.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 18, 2012, 11:20:32 am
Never have worked on the coach park!   :D

But I can count!   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 18, 2012, 05:24:07 pm
Can;t say ive seen you sitting on the Broadway counting but lets just agree to disagree on this one,never is the coach park remotely busy on a Saturday except yesterday and the one in May,end of .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 18, 2012, 06:20:38 pm
All statistics available from the Parking Manager at CCBC and available under the FoI Act.   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 19, 2012, 07:04:32 pm
I worked on the coach park on the old Asda site 38 years ago and only once while i was there did we get 100 c0aches in a day,that was when most people traveled by bus,not everyone had a car like today,so for us to get 150 coaches in a day would be beyond belief.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2012, 07:55:25 pm
Well Wrex, it's confession time!   For the couple of years prior to my retirement, I was the County Parking Manager with responsibility for all the Car And Coach Parks.   We certainly did get the numbers I have quoted and I have no reason to believe that the figures have shrunk so low.  I am sure the present Parking Manager will be pleased to help.  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 20, 2012, 07:35:06 am
Sorry Yorkie but there is noway we get those figures and certainly never on a Saturday,Mon,Tues,Wed and Thursdays are busy especially in may,June and July.Call me sad but i have always liked coaches so i notice them whenever i pass so i wonder where they put these 150 coaches.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 20, 2012, 08:10:23 am
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i wonder where they put these 150 coaches.


Maybe in the Grand's mysterious garage?

 $lol$ $lol$ $lol$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 20, 2012, 09:21:30 am
Sorry Yorkie but there is noway we get those figures and certainly never on a Saturday,Mon,Tues,Wed and Thursdays are busy especially in may,June and July.Call me sad but i have always liked coaches so i notice them whenever i pass so i wonder where they put these 150 coaches.

Please Wrex read my words - the 150 was mentioned as applying to such as Bank Holidays, not every day!   Count the spaces in the Builder Street coach park, add on the others who park on the prom, Queens Road, by Queen Elizabeth Court, in some Hotel parking areas such as the Hydro, and those who park out of town as they don't want to pay the charge for Builder Street, and you finish up with some BIG numbers.  I had a spread sheet full of statistics which are maintained by the department and would substantiate all I say. 

However, if figures have sunk so low, it is yet another indictment on the poor management of our tourist industry by the powers that be.   On that I am sure we can agree!    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 20, 2012, 11:59:38 am
Sorry Yorkie i have only been talking about day trip coaches,im quite aware there are still coaches parking in the layby outside Queen Elizabeth court,but CCBC are not interested in how much money they are letting escape then.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 20, 2012, 02:55:32 pm
Sorry Yorkie i have only been talking about day trip coaches,im quite aware there are still coaches parking in the layby outside Queen Elizabeth court,but CCBC are not interested in how much money they are letting escape then.

I believe the brief to the Parking Warden (or whatever they are now called) is to leave the coaches alone as that would have an adverse affect on tourism!   Seems that there are double standards somewhere along the line!    Possibly because cars are easier to squeeze money out of.     ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on November 21, 2012, 10:39:51 am
            When I woke this morning about 6.30 a.m. I could hear a deep rhythmic thumping noise sounding like a pile-driving machine was being operated many miles away. (I should add here that I had not been out last night or even had a drink at all!)  I opened the window and could still just about hear it though not so clearly with the sounds of the usual early morning noise of the traffic, trains etc.  I have checked with the neighbours and they said that they have also heard it on quiet comparitively windless early mornings like today on a few occasions. As no responsible building sites would be driving in piles at that hour of the day, could it be the noise of the windfarm construction out on the  Gwynt-y-Mor site? I have heard this before in the quiet early summer mornings I but forgot to ask if anyone else had also heard it.  Has anyone else heard it or could shed any light on the cause?
  I live in the Conway Road/Links area of Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 21, 2012, 11:14:52 am
It's possible it's someone's car stereo system; some young drivers occasionally have the bass turned up extremely high and they also carry enormous bass boosters in the boot.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 21, 2012, 11:23:13 am
 In all probability it is from the wind farm work that is going on at present.   Sound can travel vey far through rock.     ZXZ

Anyone got a seismograph?  ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 21, 2012, 11:28:00 am
Bass frequencies are very energetic, and often it's hard to know which direction they're coming from. And, as you say, they can travel a long way through rock.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on November 21, 2012, 11:39:33 am
            Thanks for the replies. It definitely was'nt a stereo system Ian, as the pauses between the "thumps" were too long and it went on for about an hour  so I reckon it must have been the windfarm site. Coincidentally, there is an exhibition in the the Venue Cymru next Monday between 1100-1700 about the proposed plans for the new, bigger windfarm proposed for the area between Ynys Mon and the Isle of Man, so I might ask them about the noise if I go. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2012, 09:06:56 am
The Grand Ash Hotel in Gloddaeth St will not now be closing at the end of the year but remaining open for another year, at least.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 22, 2012, 01:11:17 pm
Just been to drop off my OH in town.  The roundabout by the Carlton is quite deep in water, worst at the side by the old Merrimoon shop.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on November 22, 2012, 01:50:56 pm
There is a large variety of recycling items  (boxes, cans bottles and paper etc and recycling bags) floating on the rain run off and being blown down the roads on the Orme towards town. Black Gate is fairly well littered so I would imagine the further down you go the worse its going to be
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2012, 02:01:14 pm
Just been to drop off my OH in town.  The roundabout by the Carlton is quite deep in water, worst at the side by the old Merrimoon shop.
A problem thats been around for ages, yet never seems to get tackled.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2012, 02:17:18 pm
There is a large variety of recycling items  (boxes, cans bottles and paper etc and recycling bags) floating on the rain run off and being blown down the roads on the Orme towards town. Black Gate is fairly well littered so I would imagine the further down you go the worse its going to be

I have been out of the house today, only to try and pick up loads of plastic bottles / pizza boxes etc, which are strewn all over the road from my neighbours recycling containers.
Its terrible, and its being added to from all angles!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 22, 2012, 02:34:00 pm
Only managed to rescue the car from being damaged by the fact that I went out to grab the empty dustbin. It had blown to within an inch of the driver's door.
Spent the afternoon so far baking-- can hardly garden ! :o ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2012, 12:04:38 pm
I saw in the Daily Post how a Llandudno Restauranteur is apparently being forced to sell up after losing the appeal over upvc windows. Odd really, when you consider how her property has been listed with St. Davids for 2 years at least:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=469&o=13 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=469&o=13)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 24, 2012, 06:11:31 pm
True Dave-- I had noticed that!

Two windows now completely blown out of the Clarence-- frames included and the slates are rapidly sliding down the old cobblers shop in Bodhyfrid Rd. It is becoming a public danger never mind an eyesore.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2012, 06:19:01 pm
I saw in the Daily Post how a Llandudno Restauranteur is apparently being forced to sell up after losing the appeal over upvc windows. Odd really, when you consider how her property has been listed with St. Davids for 2 years at least:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=469&o=13 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=469&o=13)

I would think that there is a case against the window installers.  They should have been aware of local rules and regulations and probably should have, as the experts, given advice to the property owners.  Likewise, maybe CCBC should have circulated information to such companies particularly as many properties in the town could come within the scope of the regulations.  I would certainly get an opinion if I was affected.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2012, 06:59:44 pm
CCBC does issue a leaflet about properties in Conservation areas, a friend of mine received one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2012, 07:39:02 pm
CCBC does issue a leaflet about properties in Conservation areas, a friend of mine received one.

I think some of the windows affected we're replaced some years ago.  I wonder when the leaflets started going out?   And was the leaflet specific enough to warn property owners about choice of materials and style for important parts of the facade?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2012, 08:30:59 pm
Most of central Llandudno has been a Conservation Area since 1976, so I doubt the windows were installed before then. Surely you'd check something like that before buying a property?

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=515&doc=20224&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=515&doc=20224&Language=1)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2012, 09:29:56 pm
Most of central Llandudno has been a Conservation Area since 1976, so I doubt the windows were installed before then. Surely you'd check something like that before buying a property?

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=515&doc=20224&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=515&doc=20224&Language=1)

I would actually expect my Solicitor to advise me after completing the Local Authority searches. 

But what about those poor folk who bought a property after the previous owner had replaced them?

With all the problems this Community has, it surprises me that this should be a matter that CCBC have chosen to major on.   The mind boggles.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on November 24, 2012, 09:32:05 pm
I saw in the Daily Post how a Llandudno Restauranteur is apparently being forced to sell up after losing the appeal over upvc windows. Odd really, when you consider how her property has been listed with St. Davids for 2 years at least:
http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=469&o=13 (http://www.stdavidsproperty.com/asp/detail.asp?l=10&p=469&o=13)

I would think that there is a case against the window installers.  They should have been aware of local rules and regulations and probably should have, as the experts, given advice to the property owners.  Likewise, maybe CCBC should have circulated information to such companies particularly as many properties in the town could come within the scope of the regulations.  I would certainly get an opinion if I was affected.
 ZXZ

What rubbish. It's not up to anybody apart from the home/business owner to ensure that any work is line with planning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2012, 09:07:49 am
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What rubbish. It's not up to anybody apart from the home/business owner to ensure that any work is line with planning.

While that may be accurate many companies include obtaining 'any necessary permissions' for a customer in their price, and some older folk or vulnerable groups could fall foul of this sort of thing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 25, 2012, 02:12:14 pm
An excellent point Ian.  Whilst "ignorance of the Law" is no defence, I don't know anybody who knows or understands everything about planning laws, or any other of the millions of laws, rules and regulations that affect us.  Changes are going on all the time.    ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on November 25, 2012, 02:20:25 pm
Is it true that the Council/other public bodies actually gave grants for some of these windows in the first place and is a perfect example of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 25, 2012, 04:02:32 pm
Is it true that the Council/other public bodies actually gave grants for some of these windows in the first place and is a perfect example of the left hand not knowing what the right is doing?

If such is the case then it is hard to understand how any Grant was either approved, or paid out!

it may be worthwhile for all the owners of the affected properties to get together and get some legal help, as something fishy seems to be going on and it stinks to high Heaven.   :rage

Any Council official got ny ideas as to who they could use to get bespoke wooden sash windows.   Very expensive ones at that I'm sure.   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on November 25, 2012, 05:09:49 pm
From my reading of the issue it seems more complicated than simply the conservation area.  Altering a listed building is a serious matter and as Yorkie has said, solicitors should have advised their clients on purchase. The other little matter is the question of all those folk who have quietly got on and complied with the rules over the years.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2012, 08:46:15 am
Don't think I've ever seen so much water on Bodafon Fields as there is this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 26, 2012, 08:52:23 am
Drove up to Rhyl and back yesterday (Matalan-- it's time we had one !) and alot of the coast roads were badly flooded.

re windows:- we live in a listed building and therefore have to suffer the draughty old original windows. When we bought the place many moons ago we looked into replacing them. No way-- even then we were told that if we put the wrong ones in they would have to come back out. Plastic was completely out and Heritage hardwood sash windows were way beyond reason. We also have to gain permission from Mostyns to change any exterior paint colours. BUT-- we knew when we bought the place and haven't tried to flout the rules.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on November 26, 2012, 09:43:19 am
Drove up to Rhyl and back yesterday (Matalan-- it's time we had one !) and alot of the coast roads were badly flooded.

re windows:- we live in a listed building and therefore have to suffer the draughty old original windows. When we bought the place many moons ago we looked into replacing them. No way-- even then we were told that if we put the wrong ones in they would have to come back out. Plastic was completely out and Heritage hardwood sash windows were way beyond reason. We also have to gain permission from Mostyns to change any exterior paint colours. BUT-- we knew when we bought the place and haven't tried to flout the rules.

Is there any way of putting internal double glazing, so keeping the exterior the same?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2012, 10:09:07 am
Drove up to Rhyl and back yesterday (Matalan-- it's time we had one !) and alot of the coast roads were badly flooded.

re windows:- we live in a listed building and therefore have to suffer the draughty old original windows. When we bought the place many moons ago we looked into replacing them. No way-- even then we were told that if we put the wrong ones in they would have to come back out. Plastic was completely out and Heritage hardwood sash windows were way beyond reason. We also have to gain permission from Mostyns to change any exterior paint colours. BUT-- we knew when we bought the place and haven't tried to flout the rules.

Is there any way of putting internal double glazing, so keeping the exterior the same?

http://www.sashwindowheritage.co.uk/glazing (http://www.sashwindowheritage.co.uk/glazing)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on November 26, 2012, 10:14:25 am
Drove up to Rhyl and back yesterday (Matalan-- it's time we had one !) and alot of the coast roads were badly flooded.

re windows:- we live in a listed building and therefore have to suffer the draughty old original windows. When we bought the place many moons ago we looked into replacing them. No way-- even then we were told that if we put the wrong ones in they would have to come back out. Plastic was completely out and Heritage hardwood sash windows were way beyond reason. We also have to gain permission from Mostyns to change any exterior paint colours. BUT-- we knew when we bought the place and haven't tried to flout the rules.

Is there any way of putting internal double glazing, so keeping the exterior the same?

http://www.sashwindowheritage.co.uk/glazing (http://www.sashwindowheritage.co.uk/glazing)

 $thanx$

Problem solved! :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 26, 2012, 10:18:08 am
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we live in a listed building and therefore have to suffer the draughty old original windows.

I accept listing is essential for maintaining the desired appearance of older towns but there are two issues I have: firstly, there has to be a half-way house between mindless insistence on compliance and the needs of those who live in such places to enjoy a reasonably warm and dry existence without squandering energy needlessly. The second point, however, is more controversial, and concerns architecture and design. Why, I wonder, do we list so many older buildings? What is actually wrong with the new? After all, these older building were new, once, and newly designed places can be just as beautiful and aesthetically sound as crumbling wrecks. Perhaps it's time to allows new developments, sympathetically created rather than simply insisting on compliance with some remote concept of what is appropriate.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2012, 10:27:09 am
People like old buildings, they were generally designed and built to a far better standard of construction.

No-one is saying that the buildings shouldn't be double glazed, are they? Just that it should be done properly, instead of using cheap uPvc.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 26, 2012, 10:31:10 am
Mmmmm---- a few points here
a) we aren't a crumbling wreck-- my OH spends his life repairing and maintaining our building. The listing is due mainly to the age of the building, but we also have an important historical link to a famous Llandudno person.
b) when we bought the place the cost of heritage windows was beyond what we could pay, having had to replace the roof, drainage system, rewire and other major jobs just to stay open !
c) Jobs like window replacement cannot be carried out whilst a business is open.
d) Now we are both of retirement age, such a job would not be undertaken lightly, common sense prevails and since my OH fitted proper window catches and other draught products we keep warm enough.
e) Our part of the house and the garage have just had brand new roofs fitted ( by an excellent firm) so at least we are safe and dry.
f) Listed buildings cannot have any internal alterations without permission. Thus no knocking walls down inside to make rooms bigger !!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 26, 2012, 12:08:01 pm
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People like old buildings, they were generally designed and built to a far better standard of construction.

I'm not sure.  Some people might like them but I'd be very surprised if they were in a majority. But in terms of construction, then I definitely take issue.  Modern buildings constructed to current building regs are generally more energy efficient, cheaper to run and just as solid as the brick-built homes of the 1930s, and the foundations and damp-proofing are generally far superior.  I've lived in houses built in the 1870s, the 1930s, the 1950s and the 1990s and I know which I prefer. Older properties are prone to a lot of problems and it can - as Nemesis implies - become a full time occupation simply staying abreast of what needs doing. 

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No-one is saying that the buildings shouldn't be double glazed, are they? Just that it should be done properly, instead of using cheap uPvc.

What about expensive UPVC? The thing is, like any, material, you tend to get what you pay for.  In one of our places we had hardwood windows throughout. But living in an exposed and high location meant that water seeped through in storms, so we had them replaced with Everest uPVC. It wasn't cheap, but for our money we got a house that was warmer, drier and quieter than it had been with hardwood. If the correct grades and colour of uPVC are used, I seriously doubt anyone can tell the difference between them and hardwood unless they get right up close.  As I understand it some of these windows CCBC is insisting be replaced are on second and third floors.  I cannot see any justification for having those removed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2012, 08:19:39 pm
Well, I think perhaps the 3.7million members of the National Trust might be quite fond of old buildings....  :laugh:

Just as solid? Like you, I've lived in houses built from various periods, and the most solid was undoubtedly the little terraced house from the late 1800s at 99 Llysfaen Road in Colwyn Bay that I grew up in. Given a choice between that and a flimsy modern house, I know which one I'd rather be in during severe weather!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 26, 2012, 09:05:55 pm
One day there may be a blue plaque on that house!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 26, 2012, 09:12:07 pm
I never seem to like modern buildings, just look at that new eyesore on the seafront at Colwyn Bay!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 26, 2012, 09:38:48 pm
What about the awful state of most of the castles.  Almost wrecks the lot of them.  So much for old buildings, :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 26, 2012, 09:44:32 pm
Some enterprising double glazing salesman should visit the castles etc!  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 27, 2012, 07:08:17 am
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Well, I think perhaps the 3.7million members of the National Trust might be quite fond of old buildings....

True, but d'you have any solid information about the remaining 68 million?  :D
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Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2012, 07:29:44 am
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Well, I think perhaps the 3.7million members of the National Trust might be quite fond of old buildings....

True, but d'you have any solid information about the remaining 68 million?  :D
Hmmm...do you? 8)
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Post by: Ian on November 27, 2012, 07:46:52 am
I don't have to - I'm not the one wheeling out figures...  WWW WWW WWW
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Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2012, 08:10:49 am
I don't have to - I'm not the one wheeling out figures...  WWW WWW WWW
No membership figures for organisations that love modern buildings then?  :P
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Post by: Nemesis on November 27, 2012, 08:53:16 am
One day there may be a blue plaque on that house!  ;D

They are orange in Wales !! ;D
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Post by: Ian on November 27, 2012, 04:32:02 pm
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I don't have to - I'm not the one wheeling out figures...  WWW WWW WWW
No membership figures for organisations that love modern buildings then?  :P

Oh, indeed there are. In fact, there are so many lovers of new-build, that there are a huge number of sites devoted to them such as Modern Architecture.  (http://www.e-architect.co.uk/contemporary_architects.htm) But the lovers of the ancient and decrepit have to have paid membership subs' lists , since they need every penny to keep the crumbling relics from falling down. Modern build lovers are so plentiful they need no membership lists  D)
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Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2012, 07:27:40 pm
Modern build lovers are so plentiful they need no membership lists  D)
No figures then, Ian?  8)
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Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2012, 07:28:46 pm
How very sad...  :(

A YOUNG woman who was plucked from the sea, has died in hospital. The woman was found in the water at Angel Bay near Llandudno’s Little Orme. She was taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd in Bangor.

Llandudno RNLI all weather lifeboat crew and an RAF Valley helicopter from 22 Squadron were scrambled at about 10.45am.
RNLI spokesman Alan Sharp said: “We had a report from two dog walkers on the Little Orme that there was a person in the water in Angel Bay at the foot of the Little Orme.
“We were getting ready to launch and at the same time the rescue helicopter from 22 Squadron was also called out.
“The helicopter recovered the person from the sea.”
A post mortem is due to be carried out soon.
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Post by: Ian on November 27, 2012, 09:32:56 pm
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No figures then, Ian?  8)

Oh, certainly.  let me see... UK population: 62,641,000 less 3,700.000 who are so interested in castles, the preservation of our natural heritage - which is what most of the NT's work is about,  and estates and - oh yes, the odd old house they actually pay a membership fee, that leaves 58, 941,000 less - say, 20,000 000 (those who have no interest whatsoever in anything), that leaves us with 38, 941,000 who clearly enjoy modern houses and buildings. Something of a decided majority, wouldn't you say?

 L0L
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Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2012, 09:35:24 pm
38, 941,000 who clearly enjoy modern houses and buildings.
Where is your evidence to support this assertion?  :P
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Post by: Michael on November 27, 2012, 09:46:51 pm
   Hey, its O.K. for us lesser members to have a scrap between us ---- but now our administrators are having a go. Is it catching?
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Post by: Ian on November 27, 2012, 09:49:18 pm
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    38, 941,000 who clearly enjoy modern houses and buildings.

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Where is your evidence to support this assertion?  :P

I'll happily show you mine if you show me yours...

On a slightly more serious note, there are a couple of things to remember.  The NT is not primarily about old buildings.  Most of it is dedicated to buying land, such as the Carneddau, so they can be used by the walking public in perpetuity, so you can't infer from their membership numbers what proportion - if any - love old houses.  But there's another point:  older houses are frequently constructed from quite toxic materials. You might think ancient bricks and mortar are sturdier than modern materials, but at least they're a lot safer, and, actually, probably stronger. Finally, if people loved old houses as much as you suggest, one has to wonder why new houses not only outsell older properties but are also significantly more expensive to buy.  You're the market-forces apostle: surely, if old was preferred., new houses would  not only sell in smaller numbers, but also for lower prices.  Unless I'm missing something...

 :D
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Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2012, 10:13:50 pm
Whilst the NT may or may not be primarily about old buildings, I'm sure very many of its members become so in order to obtain free entry to its old buildings. Obviously, entry to NT owned land is almost always free.

Not sure about your safer materials point, either. There was lead in paint, certainly, but what else? I'm not sure how modern buildings can be sturdier, when they don't tend to last very long. How many buildings from the 60s and 70s do we see getting demolished or having to be rebuilt? Ysbyty Glan Clwyd is a great example of this. And, as for Venue Cymru.......  &shake&

I imagine new houses outsell older ones purely because of increased availability for sale. After all, a street of newly built houses will all need to be sold by the Developer, whereas a street of old houses may only have a sale every few years. I'm not sure where you get your stats for new houses being 'significantly more expensive to buy'. Surely, 101 factors influence the price?

What I can tell you is that I did a Rightmove search for properties for sale in Colwyn Bay, purely to see how old the most expensive property was:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION)^353

The result was an Edwardian property on the market for £995,000.

I tried the same search for Llandudno:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION)^824&insId=3&googleAnalyticsChannel=buying

The result was an Arts & Crafts property for £795,000.

 :P


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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 27, 2012, 11:53:54 pm
I can settle this! I am a NT member (for the free entry and they do a great job!) and usually find new buildings look ghastly! Some people want new houses, some prefer old, depends what they want, we need secure off road undercover parking for at least 3 classic cars, so that guides our choice, currently a 1964 built property, nice size garden which you don't usually get with a new build! I see on the tv many problems with new houses, one being why on earth are they built on flood plains?
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Post by: DaveR on November 28, 2012, 08:15:30 am
 $good$
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Post by: DaveR on November 28, 2012, 08:16:24 am
Has anyone else noticed that the underground Toilets at Bog Island have been closed for a month at least? They were flooded during the spell of heavy rain then and have never reopened.
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Post by: Ian on November 28, 2012, 08:19:27 am
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I'm not sure how modern buildings can be sturdier, when they don't tend to last very long. How many buildings from the 60s and 70s do we see getting demolished or having to be rebuilt?

Given the strength of feeling about this I was surprised how deeply one has to dig to get facts. They're out there, but not easy to find.

Some years ago I was involved in a project to raise the roof on a 17th C building some two feet. One characteristic about older properties was that - in the main - they were actually smaller in some significant ways. We used a local builder and I managed to get a substantial sum from the Lottery folk to fund the project. It was in a sensitive area of the Snowdonia NP, so we had to be extremely careful. I was on site almost every day, so I saw the entire process, from start to finish.  We reused the slates from the original building because the cost of new slates is exorbitant, but they still make for the best roofing material after reinforced concrete, which - incidentally - the Romans used quite a bit.

And here's a point: yes - there was a fair bit of jerry-building in the '50s and '60s, which resulted in a lot of demolition, but that wasn't always because they 'didn't seem to last very long'. The '50s and '60s were a time of rapid building - partly because our continental neighbours had spent a large part of the '40s rearranging much of our older housing stock for us - and it was almost inevitable that the pace of construction alone would lead to premature demolition in many cases.  The '70s, I seem to remember, were also a period in which the government were only slowly getting to grips with building standards, following some accidents, and bans were introduced on hardwoods from abroad, as we were starting to do the same to our far Eastern cousins' forests as our Teutonic pals had done for our nascent construction industry, but on a purely statistical basis I suspect that many older buildings also fell down or didn't last too long,  It's just that we only see the ones that stayed up.

I also agree that some modern constructions take a little time to get used to but there's also a psychological reason why we seem to adore the old and mistrust the new. Partly this is down to our memories, which store experiences in a way that preserve positive aspects and eliminate or transpose the negative. That's partly why advertisers play the nostalgia card so often.  It's also interesting to look at current comments about now-listed buildings.  Often, old buildings were described by current commentators as 'ugly and lacking in any architectural merit' when they were first built, and these same edifices now attract adulation.

To return to my original point, however, we fund it was easier to demolish the 17th C building entirely before rebuilding it in its original appearance with the raised roof.  Inside, it was extremely modern, but outside, it still looked like the original cattle shed. Snowdonia NP authority were delighted, but what we had done - in effect - was build a new property, but with apparently the same exterior.  We'd used uPVC double glazing and masses of insulation but it looked virtually identical to the original.

I wouldn't want to return to living in an old house. I would have no objection to the outside looking similar, provided I could enjoy the benefits of decent, energy-efficient double glazing but - like the ancient monuments I enjoy visiting in my capacity as a life member of the National Trust - I wouldn't want to live in 'em.


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Post by: Yorkie on November 28, 2012, 08:47:44 am
The worst building I think the country has seen is the so called "unity" or "industrialised" construction of housing stock during the 1960's.  This was the system of quick build using concrete units made in a factory, such as the Skarne method that emanated from Scandinavia.  Apart from housing it was also used on multi-storey flats which were later considered as anti-social housing.   Most of this type of building stopped when there was a collapse of the Ronan Point flats in 1968 due to a gas explosion.   

This building method started to show signs of deterioration long before its expected life span, with rusting steelwork and disintegrating concrete.

Some Unity houses are still available on the market but generally only to cash buyers who can afford to virtually rebuild them. 
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Post by: Fester on November 28, 2012, 10:46:51 am
Older buildings have more spiders in the brickwork..... therefore new builds are far superior!
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Post by: Nemesis on November 28, 2012, 11:17:44 am
OMG Fester-- you break me up !!! ;D ;D ;D
Plenty big ones coming in for the winter!
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Post by: snowcap on November 28, 2012, 04:32:39 pm
yes but do the new ones keep the moths out ?
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Post by: Gaylord Screwsby on November 28, 2012, 05:36:41 pm
The worst building I think the country has seen is the so called "unity" or "industrialised" construction of housing stock during the 1960's.  This was the system of quick build using concrete units made in a factory, such as the Skarne method that emanated from Scandinavia.  Apart from housing it was also used on multi-storey flats which were later considered as anti-social housing.   Most of this type of building stopped when there was a collapse of the Ronan Point flats in 1968 due to a gas explosion.   

This building method started to show signs of deterioration long before its expected life span, with rusting steelwork and disintegrating concrete.

Some Unity houses are still available on the market but generally only to cash buyers who can afford to virtually rebuild them.

There's quite a few methods of non-traditional construction that become popular after the war, most of it now sadly designated defective and usually not mortgageable. I'm not convinced that the current trend for timber framed housing will last as long as a 'proper' house.
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Post by: Paulakelsall on November 28, 2012, 08:39:45 pm
Link to an interesting blog on the debate of old v new property

http://surveyingproperty.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/older-house-or-modern-house-quirky-can.html?spref=tw (http://surveyingproperty.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/older-house-or-modern-house-quirky-can.html?spref=tw)

I have lived in a new build house (purchased from the developer) and an old cottage (200+ years old). I find most new houses 'souless' as they tend to be 'off the shelf' boxes in design, however, I do agree when new they are easier to maintain. I would add though that the second you move into a new build it becomes a 'second hand' property and, say within 10 years, will require some works or upgrading. The new build will no longer meet the modern standards or tastes and trends. All properties require some maintenance.
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Post by: Gwynant on December 02, 2012, 07:50:16 am
                    While cycling past the junction of Oxford Road and Argyll Road in Llandudno about 10 days ago I hit a pothole about 6" deep and 12" wide which caused me to swerve suddenly. I went back to look at it and then went into the Police Station which is right opposite and reported it to the Officer on duty at the desk. He asked me for the details and the whereabouts of the hole and said he would get back to me. When I got home about an hour later there was a message on my answerphone assuring me that the Highways Dept. had been informed and action would be taken. I went past there the next day and the pothole had been filled in; whether that was because the Police had reported it I couldn't say but I was very impressed with the service from both them and the Highways Dept.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 02, 2012, 08:56:46 am
Same thing happened to me. A few years ago I fell down a hole in the pavement badly injuring my face and hands. It was reported and within days was filled. Perhaps it was the threat of legal action? :-X
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Post by: Gwynant on December 02, 2012, 11:28:11 am
              I never thought about that aspect of the incident at the time Nemisis, though as I recall the officer did ask me at least twice if I had actually come off my bike and injured myself so you could be right. I only posted the incidenton the Forum after reading the "how to use the fix my street" thread earlier this morning.
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Post by: Michael on December 02, 2012, 11:29:23 am
  And what a nice face (and hands) to be damaged Mike
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Post by: Michael on December 02, 2012, 11:46:55 am
  I'm glad to read that you had satisfaction after your accident. I'm afraid though that a lot of similar accidents are not treated so kindly because of this terrible compensation culture which has sprung up.
  Its been around for a good time. Around 30 years ago when I had my shop in Towyn I was aware of an incedent outside. A  woman was on the ground in what appeared to be pain. Ambulance came and went with her. Incedent forgotten.
  A good time afterwards, maybe six months, a couple of officials turn up, I suppose from the Council. Asked me if I remembered anything about it, which I only dimly did. I found out afterwards that she was a professional tripper. Apparently she had had an accident, but not in Towyn.  No, in Sheffield or wherever she lived.  Whilst she still had the grazes fresh she had set about delibrately looking for a damaged bit of road, ripping off the dressings, and then getting down in the hole.  To see what she could pick up financially.
   I imagine she would have had to act fast before scabs etc formed, or perhaps, in those days, ambulance men etc were not as jaundiced as they probably are nowadays  Mike
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Post by: Nemesis on December 02, 2012, 12:41:14 pm
  And what a nice face (and hands) to be damaged Mike

Thanks Mike( you flatterer !)
Wish I'd known then what I do now-- my knees were never any trouble before I fell onto them !
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Post by: wrex on December 03, 2012, 06:04:12 pm
No mention of the xmas parade,how did it go,was it a success,i noticed there are no lights on the Libary trees or bog island trees but hey ho having just been to Leeds ive just come to the conclusion that this council will never tryt.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 03, 2012, 06:43:05 pm
I went into Llandudno early this evening to collect the Mrs and I might just as well have been in Blackwall Tunnel.   The illuminations, or decorative lighting as the Council dare to call them, we're just non existent.  The whole of Mostyn Street was dark and gloomy, and the most unwelcoming  main shopping street I have ever seen.   I just hope the shopkeepers aren't banking on a spending boom in the town, 'cos I don't think it's going to happen. 

Blame the Councils (yes, both of them) - a rate strike would not go amiss. WWW
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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2012, 07:18:09 pm
The uniforms guy with the monkey in the pram is back in action..he was today dressed as Darth Vader.  :laugh:
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Post by: wrex on December 03, 2012, 08:24:32 pm
Still don;t know what the parade was like,did anyone see it.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 03, 2012, 08:51:09 pm
Still don;t know what the parade was like,did anyone see it.

I didn't bother to go having witnessed other feeble attempts in past years.   I am still of the opinion that one of the local organisations such as the Tablers or Lions could organise a really good and worthwhile parade with entertainment.   

As no one is talking about the 2012 effort, one can only presume it was rubbish!    WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 03, 2012, 08:58:12 pm
Still don;t know what the parade was like,did anyone see it.
I didn't see it but almost certainly some Star Wars storm troopers were involved!  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2012, 09:00:15 pm
The response to the Parade on the Llandudno Facebook group was not great.
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Post by: Fester on December 03, 2012, 10:56:12 pm
The feedback I have had regarding the Xmas parade involved the words, 'terrible' and 'embarrassment'

I have never missed the Xmas parade in previous years, and there have always been brightly lit buses or traction engines from bygone years, (as with the Extravaganza), plus lots of kids on nicely adorned floats.

Well, I have been told that this year, the head of the parade was the old Orme Tour Bus, you know the burgundy one which operates every day from the pier gates.  No brightly lit trams or suchlike.
Also, there were few, if any floats,  and the main memory of the people I spoke to was of the ridiculous and shabby looking Star Wars Stormtroopers!

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 03, 2012, 11:18:12 pm
I guessed right then! I saw it last year and didn't think much of it, but then my middle name is Scrooge!  :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on December 04, 2012, 11:25:40 am
I went !

It was led by two Rolls Royces, one old, one newer. Queen Victoria was in one. There were a load of children doing cartwheels with daffodils on their heads. Daffodils? Christmas?
Bagpipers who looked rather jolly with  lights draped round their instruments.
2 land trains full of children.
A donkey and cart and some more donkeys.
A 4x4 towing a trailer full of children dressed in Alice type costumes.
Dogs as therapy with bits of tinsel etc.
The cast or members of same of Aladdin-- colourful and were interacting with the crowd. As were the group of people walking along in Alice costumes.
By the Town Hall The Blessed William Davis' pupils were singing with the Llandudno band under a snow machine which was making an awful grating noise !!

Now I think I have remembered what I saw although by the time I had been standing on the corner for a while I was perished. I did also try and take some pics, but too many people were shoving to the front for me to get anything decent.
If I have forgotten anybody, or anything I apologise, my brain froze !

PS I don't like Christmas.  Can't you tell? ;D
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Post by: Fester on December 04, 2012, 11:49:49 am
Nice one Nem!

Its always better to have a first hand account, it sounds slightly better than the report related to me.
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Post by: jemima on December 04, 2012, 12:41:17 pm
The feedback I have had regarding the Xmas parade involved the words, 'terrible' and 'embarrassment'

I have never missed the Xmas parade in previous years, and there have always been brightly lit buses or traction engines from bygone years, (as with the Extravaganza), plus lots of kids on nicely adorned floats.

Well, I have been told that this year, the head of the parade was the old Orme Tour Bus, you know the burgundy one which operates every day from the pier gates.  No brightly lit trams or suchlike.
Also, there were few, if any floats,  and the main memory of the people I spoke to was of the ridiculous and shabby looking Star Wars Stormtroopers!

There was no brightly lit tram this year, as the vehicle which usually tows it in the parade (the 1943 AEC Matador) , is out of action.

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Post by: Nemesis on December 04, 2012, 01:34:14 pm
Nice one Nem!

Its always better to have a first hand account, it sounds slightly better than the report related to me.

Tks Fes. I can't say that I was thrilled with it, but having been mixed up with various parades and carnivals in the past I know how much work and effort goes into such a thing, so wouldn't presume to be critical. The big problem was the fact that whoever's job it was, let the traffic down Mostyn Street (past WH Smith's) and it hadn't got away before the parade came round the Carleton corner. Thus there was somewhat of a hold up. Think some of the bus/coach drivers were getting somewhat shirty at being held up.
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Post by: TheMedz on December 04, 2012, 05:31:03 pm
No Star Wars storm troopers this year ?
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Post by: Yorkie on December 04, 2012, 06:23:27 pm
No Star Wars storm troopers this year ?

They've cybered off to another galaxy, thank goodness!    ZXZ
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Post by: Fester on December 04, 2012, 06:33:46 pm
No Star Wars storm troopers this year ?

I was informed that the Storm Troopers were definitely in the FESTIVE Parade!   Crazy.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 04, 2012, 08:03:48 pm
Sorry to disappoint you Yorkie, I did see 3 of them, 2 men and  a girl with blue hair :o, it slipped my mind ! Another crew that I can't associate with Christmas.
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Post by: Paulakelsall on December 04, 2012, 08:11:16 pm
I was hoping someone might have posted a video of the Christmas parade on 'youtube' as in previous years but I have not seen one as yet. I did notice, however, a 2007 film clip of the parade with the Stormtroopers! :roll: Unfortunately I was ill and not able to go to the parade this year but I have been to previous ones.

I have come across quite a few comments expressing people's disappointment in the parade, lights, fayre etc - is it not possible for business owners/residents to form a group to assist (not criticise) the authorities that run these events? As I do not live in Llandudno and no longer work or run a business from the town, I feel it is not my place to get involved (I have lots of ideas I'd be happy to share as I am sure many people have). I do shop in Llandudno from time to time though. I went Christmas shopping to town last week, the whole experience left me deflated and I will not be repeating that expedition  :(

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Post by: wrex on December 04, 2012, 09:51:44 pm
So sad to hear Paulakelsall;s views,but that is exactly how i feel,as you all know i winge about the xmas festivities laid on by this council and asyou know i tried to improve the lights when on the council and since with no interest whatsoever.I was in Leeds for the weekend and what a buzz there was,they had a few empty shops same as most places,but the xmas atmosphere was brilliant,i must have come across at least 5 brass bands playing in different locations,how many brass bands has our town council laid on for the festive season,i tried to get the lights improved with little sucess,just take Bog Island as ONE excample,small tree hidden as you come down Mostyn st behind the toilet block and not visible as you come down Conwy rd,move the tree over 10 feetand get a bigger tree,just one small improvement and that tree would stand out,no thought and no interest.The parade is a two hour package and that is it,nothing for the rest of the day and nothing for the whole of the festive season,what is the point in getting on the town council when they do nothing for the good of the resort.
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Post by: Ian on December 05, 2012, 08:29:20 am
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what is the point in getting on the town council when they do nothing for the good of the resort.

Maybe it would take the formation of a new party: the 3T forum party could field candidates in every seat, and - if enough got on - they could start to make a difference.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 05, 2012, 09:16:23 am

Maybe it would take the formation of a new party: the 3T forum party could field candidates in every seat, and - if enough got on - they could start to make a difference.

I'm willing to have a go!   Lots of campaigning experience!    $good$
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Post by: Ian48 on December 05, 2012, 04:01:53 pm
Hopefully the Pioneer is right about the Clarence restarting soon *fingers crossed*

I also saw in the planning applications list om Conwy's site that there is an application in for number 5 Vaughan St to be converted into 5 self-contained flats and for the verandah to be glazed and repaired. If I am correct, this is the Orme View guest house above Collector's Corner.

Perhaps Mostyn are doing it, in which case they'll probably do a nice job as it's started to look quite run down really (not helped by the plasterwork obviously having been hacked off in some work decades ago). I would imagine that it's hard running a guest house, up a side door above a shop in that sort of set-up these days as people have different expectations (sea view, parking, ground floor reception etc.). So perhaps it's good that it'll get converted into nice flats.
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2012, 08:01:29 pm
Hopefully the Pioneer is right about the Clarence restarting soon *fingers crossed*

I also saw in the planning applications list om Conwy's site that there is an application in for number 5 Vaughan St to be converted into 5 self-contained flats and for the verandah to be glazed and repaired. If I am correct, this is the Orme View guest house above Collector's Corner.

Perhaps Mostyn are doing it, in which case they'll probably do a nice job as it's started to look quite run down really (not helped by the plasterwork obviously having been hacked off in some work decades ago). I would imagine that it's hard running a guest house, up a side door above a shop in that sort of set-up these days as people have different expectations (sea view, parking, ground floor reception etc.). So perhaps it's good that it'll get converted into nice flats.
Definitely. I see no harm in losing the odd poor quality hotel or guest house if it means the remaining ones become more viable as a result.
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Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2012, 09:31:00 am
An iPhone shot of the waves bashing against the Pier yesterday afternoon:
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Post by: DaveR on December 08, 2012, 09:33:52 am
A Colliers 'For Sale' sign has recently appeared outside the Baytree Hotel:
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Post by: DaveR on December 17, 2012, 05:29:19 pm
Carlton roundabout is flooded again, water is right across the road.
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Post by: Michael on December 17, 2012, 08:57:30 pm
   What is the water?  Heavy rainfall, or has the very high tide levels stopped the rain water escaping, or, heaven forbid, has the tide level been so high that sea water has entered into the towns drainage system?

  I cannot believe that is possible at the present time, but who knows for the future.  It is not given much publicity but probably around a mile inland from Rhyl high street, around the Ffordd Derwen area, at very high tides water comes UP out of the drains for surface water.  I've seen it, I used to live there.  Mike
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Post by: DaveR on December 17, 2012, 09:33:46 pm
It's just caused by heavy rainfall, I think, but it seems to be getting worse as time goes by. Maybe one of the sewers is obstructed?
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Post by: Fester on December 18, 2012, 12:50:55 am
The Carlton Roundabout was flooded on at least 3 occasions today, (Monday)...each time after a rain storm.

It seems take about an hour and a half for it to drain away afterwards.
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Post by: Ian on December 18, 2012, 07:09:13 am
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Heavy rainfall, or has the very high tide levels stopped the rain water escaping, or, heaven forbid, has the tide level been so high that sea water has entered into the towns drainage system?

The old toilets at the lowest point along the Rhos prom seawall would always flood during the high tides.
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2012, 07:15:15 am
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Heavy rainfall, or has the very high tide levels stopped the rain water escaping, or, heaven forbid, has the tide level been so high that sea water has entered into the towns drainage system?

The old toilets at the lowest point along the Rhos prom seawall would always flood during the high tides.
...and the road outside still does. There are other similar low spots locally; outside the Station in the Junction and two spots on the road from Junction to Deganwy.
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Post by: dwsi on December 18, 2012, 05:02:00 pm
I don't think the guys on the drain cleaning crew do a good job or know how to do a good job. Another case of the 'that'll do' attitude?
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Post by: Fester on December 18, 2012, 06:20:36 pm
I don't think the guys on the drain cleaning crew do a good job or know how to do a good job. Another case of the 'that'll do' attitude?

That would be a management issue in that case.
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Post by: wrex on December 18, 2012, 06:42:34 pm
Just look at the mess CCBC made this year of looking after the gardens and grass verges and like Fester says that was not the fault of the workforce,its the management,In the case of the drains the worst place is the swimming pool car park,then outside Cotton Traders and now the Carlton roundabout and they are incapable of clearing these drains.
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Post by: wrex on December 18, 2012, 06:45:09 pm
and of course just look at the management of the LLandudno xmas illuminations,i rest my case,merry xmas Cll Bertola.
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2012, 07:19:51 pm
Just look at the mess CCBC made this year of looking after the gardens and grass verges and like Fester says that was not the fault of the workforce,its the management,In the case of the drains the worst place is the swimming pool car park,then outside Cotton Traders and now the Carlton roundabout and they are incapable of clearing these drains.
I think the swimming pool car park drains have been fixed at long last, only took them...4 years?
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Post by: Ian on December 19, 2012, 07:21:46 am
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I think the swimming pool car park drains have been fixed at long last, only took them...4 years?


...and people say they're not on top of things...
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Post by: wrex on December 19, 2012, 11:16:59 pm
Besides the xmas parade and the few xmas lights has the town council put on any other activities eg brass bands,entertainers etc,i know most of the councillors think the buisnesses should do and pay for it themselves but is the High Street not in need of help,rather than ignored.The councillors know that only a couple of forum members and Oscar get on their back so it hardly bothers them what the town appears and feels like at xmas.I would love to set up a Llandudno xmas committee away from the council to try and pull everybody together but i really could;nt do it alone,things like running meetings without getting tongue tied,meeting shop managers,retail parc managers,estate managers,secretarial,work,then all the sponsorship again to pay for lights,bands,entertainers,just to much,it would need a real good team.
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Post by: DaveR on December 20, 2012, 08:09:26 am
Besides the xmas parade and the few xmas lights has the town council put on any other activities eg brass bands,entertainers etc,i know most of the councillors think the buisnesses should do and pay for it themselves but is the High Street not in need of help,rather than ignored.The councillors know that only a couple of forum members and Oscar get on their back so it hardly bothers them what the town appears and feels like at xmas.I would love to set up a Llandudno xmas committee away from the council to try and pull everybody together but i really could;nt do it alone,things like running meetings without getting tongue tied,meeting shop managers,retail parc managers,estate managers,secretarial,work,then all the sponsorship again to pay for lights,bands,entertainers,just to much,it would need a real good team.
You would have thought Mostyn Estates would be in an ideal position to organise such a committee?
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Post by: Yorkie on December 20, 2012, 08:25:40 am

You would have thought Mostyn Estates would be in an ideal position to organise such a committee?

Their interest in the Town, apart from their property empire. is probably no greater than the Town Council's.   $angry$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 20, 2012, 08:43:26 am
Does Llandudno have an active Chamber of Trade?
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Post by: Michael on December 20, 2012, 11:05:09 am
       A few posts back Dave R wrote about a flood blackspot on the road between the Junction and Deganwy. This particular spot is rather unusual floodwise.  In the wall on the left heading towards Deganwy, alongside the railway, there were a series of pipes, for want of a better word, running from the road, under the railway and out into the river. Presumably placed there (me guessing) so that when there was heavy rainfall this water would just drain away into the river.
     Well, I dont know if tides are higher now than they were when this was constructed but I have myself actually seen the situation where we were in the middle of a dry period rainwise, a high tide came along and these pipes were carrying water, but the wrong way i.e. flooding the road from the river. Quite comical. Pitty I didnt have a camera.  Mike
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Post by: wrex on December 21, 2012, 07:47:00 am
I think Yorkie is right,i think Mostyn estates sponsors one of those trees in Trinity church,there are two white motifs stuck to a lampost and two trees with white lights,take a look,i have never seen such a mish mash,no thought and no ambition.You would have thought Mostyn estates would have made bog island a Christmas wonderland.
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Post by: DaveR on December 21, 2012, 08:27:24 am
Does Llandudno have an active Chamber of Trade?
Isn't there a new one starting up?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 21, 2012, 08:52:52 am
If that's the case, Dave, then maybe the new body can make Xmas Lighting their first priority.
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Post by: wrex on December 21, 2012, 12:06:08 pm
Can the three town forum have a rep on the chamber of trade
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Post by: Yorkie on December 21, 2012, 12:25:25 pm
Can the three town forum have a rep on the chamber of trade

I think we coud push someone forward if we had someone who was reasonably passionate about the subject!    _))*

Or is anyone willing to volunteer?    $3towns$
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Post by: Nemesis on December 21, 2012, 01:20:00 pm
I think Yorkie is right,i think Mostyn estates sponsors one of those trees in Trinity church,there are two white motifs stuck to a lampost and two trees with white lights,take a look,i have never seen such a mish mash,no thought and no ambition.You would have thought Mostyn estates would have made bog island a Christmas wonderland.

Mostyn Estates couldn't make a rice pudding nowadays, let alone a Christmas Wonderland
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 21, 2012, 05:51:55 pm
Is there any truth in the rumour that Mr D*****s is taking over the lease on the old Merrymoon premises?
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Post by: Yorkie on December 21, 2012, 07:05:03 pm
I think it may be the Olde Curiosity Shop question thou doesn't ask!   ZXZ
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 21, 2012, 07:45:53 pm
Someone called Dickens, so who is he? ???
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Post by: wrex on December 21, 2012, 09:20:28 pm
That was the same rumour on the otherside of the street,not a lot Mr Dickens could do with that small shop.Llandudno needs a new nite spot/pub as the scene is moving towards Bangor too Llandudno;s lose.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 22, 2012, 08:01:13 am
That was the same rumour on the otherside of the street,not a lot Mr Dickens could do with that small shop.Llandudno needs a new nite spot/pub as the scene is moving towards Bangor too Llandudno;s lose.

I take it that you are part of this scene? :-X
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Post by: wrex on December 22, 2012, 08:13:02 am
Like Fester and DaveR i do go to the bars in Upper Mostyn Street but im more concerned for my daughters,nephews ,niecees and for all the other local youths who still live here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2012, 08:17:35 am
Llandudno needs a new nite spot/pub as the scene is moving towards Bangor too Llandudno;s lose.

I would think the former Bootes on Broadway could be a suitable site.

Since HSS Tool Hire moved out there has been a lot of work going on repairing the external structure.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 22, 2012, 08:25:54 am
Someone called Dickens, so who is he? ???

Still don't know who he is?
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Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2012, 08:29:01 am
Someone called Dickens, so who is he? ???

Still don't know who he is?
Need to know basis, mate. :-D I would have thought Merrymoon was a bit small for his plans.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 22, 2012, 10:50:38 am
OMG-- I must be crazy. Went down to M&S at about 9.10am this morning. Only wanted a bit of bread and some Cheshire cheese to go with the Christmas Cake  ( remember where I come from-- Christmas Cake with out the cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze !!!! :-*) A few grapes would be nice, perhaps a joint of beef for a treat and my Saturday Telegraph-- can't function without the GK Crossword.
The whole place was solid, people, trollies, staff replenishing the shelves and the floors were so slippery with people's wet feet it was getting dangerous.
No Telegraphs and no Cheshire cheese, so I had to settle for Wensleydale, got my nice piece of beef, some grapes and bread and managed to squeeze to a till which had just opened. The queues were all the way back through the shoppers. I could have done with spikes on my elbows as my requests for" Excuse me, may I pass through" were ignored.
Could someone please tell me what people do with all the food they buy? Unless they are feeding the whole of the British Armed forces they couldn't possibly use it all !
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Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2012, 11:05:42 am
Hysteria and stupidty in equal measure!  &shake&
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Post by: Nemesis on December 22, 2012, 12:24:36 pm
Exactly !
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Post by: wrex on December 22, 2012, 12:28:31 pm
Nemisis i know what you mean,i often wonder where DaveR puts all that coffee and Stella Artoi  :twoface:
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Post by: Nemesis on December 22, 2012, 12:29:46 pm
Hmmmm! _))* _))* _))* $donald$
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Post by: Fester on December 22, 2012, 05:56:45 pm
Asda was pleasantly busy but not insane on Saturday... 

Queues were quite short, and the car park was manageable.

Fair play to them, say I!  &well& &well&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 22, 2012, 06:01:26 pm
Opening at 6am and closing at midnight for the past three days helps a lot, Fester.

For the record, my good lady was first into Asda at 6am on Thursday morning !!
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Post by: SDQ on December 22, 2012, 07:06:42 pm
I see Oscar has taken issue with Nemesis' post regarding M&S and in the process has kinda missed the point that the issue is not about the store but rather the hysteria over shopping for what is just two days of the year.
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Post by: Blongb on December 22, 2012, 07:34:16 pm
OMG-- I must be crazy. Went down to M&S at about 9.10am this morning. Only wanted a bit of bread and some Cheshire cheese to go with the Christmas Cake  ( remember where I come from-- Christmas Cake with out the cheese is like a kiss without a squeeze !!!! :-*) A few grapes would be nice, perhaps a joint of beef for a treat and my Saturday Telegraph-- can't function without the GK Crossword.
The whole place was solid, people, trollies, staff replenishing the shelves and the floors were so slippery with people's wet feet it was getting dangerous.
No Telegraphs and no Cheshire cheese, so I had to settle for Wensleydale, got my nice piece of beef, some grapes and bread and managed to squeeze to a till which had just opened. The queues were all the way back through the shoppers. I could have done with spikes on my elbows as my requests for" Excuse me, may I pass through" were ignored.
Could someone please tell me what people do with all the food they buy? Unless they are feeding the whole of the British Armed forces they couldn't possibly use it all !

Here's a tip for all Locals during mad shopping times at M & S. If the problems getting a till in the food hall, take your purchases up to the cloths department and pay for it there. Then when the sales are on after Christmas take your cloths purchases and pay for them in the food hall. It Works for me every time, after all a bar code reader is a bar code reader no matter where it's positioned.  ;D
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Post by: Nemesis on December 23, 2012, 08:51:21 am
I see Oscar has taken issue with Nemesis' post regarding M&S and in the process has kinda missed the point that the issue is not about the store but rather the hysteria over shopping for what is just two days of the year.

SDQ. I shouldn't worry about it ! :twoface:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 25, 2012, 06:59:01 pm
Last year we had a walk in llandudno on a very quiet Christmas day and today we repeated it!

Llyn Bodafon
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(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1010304.jpg)
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Post by: DaveR on December 25, 2012, 08:03:32 pm
Great photos, Andy.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on December 25, 2012, 09:48:06 pm
Not a coffee bean in sight.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 25, 2012, 09:54:17 pm
Thanks Dave, seems strange seeing it so quiet!
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Post by: DaveR on December 26, 2012, 09:05:28 am
Thanks Dave, seems strange seeing it so quiet!
Ideal if you're making an 'end of the world' type film.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2012, 09:13:12 am
Yes, but last year we heard Christmas music playing from the Victoria Centre, very spooky! Wasn't playing this year!
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Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2012, 01:55:46 pm
Packed today-- especially at the dip .
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Post by: wrex on December 27, 2012, 09:42:34 am
My question is ,what is Llandudno going to be like next year?. I don;t mean xmas lights or things like that,unless we take things like that off the town council they will never improve,what i mean is how many more High st stores are we going to lose,will any developers gamble on any of our eyesores,what will CCBC cock up next,2012 was the parks dept ,2013?.The future that is what im wondering,11 emty shops on Mostyn st,6 or 7 in the Victoria center,Comet on Mostyn Champneys,luckily no pubs have gone,Madoc St is holding up,just want to know the thoughts of other members.
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Post by: Fester on December 27, 2012, 03:11:20 pm
My question is ,what is Llandudno going to be like next year?. I don;t mean xmas lights or things like that,unless we take things like that off the town council they will never improve,what i mean is how many more High st stores are we going to lose,will any developers gamble on any of our eyesores,what will CCBC cock up next,2012 was the parks dept ,2013?.The future that is what im wondering,11 emty shops on Mostyn st,6 or 7 in the Victoria center,Comet on Mostyn Champneys,luckily no pubs have gone,Madoc St is holding up,just want to know the thoughts of other members.

Upper Mostyn St is my biggest worry Wrex.
(Apart from the Pavilion site, the Pier itself and Tudno Castle)
Too many retailers have abandoned it in 2012, and with Hoosons Corner still boarded up it doesn't auger well for 2013.

I was sorely tempted to move my business to the Silver Gem Jewellers when it closed, but I realised that Gimberts has gone, Merrymoon has gone, Hoosons is still closed, The London is for sale, and the other retailers look frankly terrible.
BW Ryders and the Sewing machine shop are never busy, and The Rock Shop is now in a y poor state.
Also.... Pars Restaurant now gone too!

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Post by: Nemesis on December 27, 2012, 03:23:10 pm
Just read this :-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20579589 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20579589)
Seems to be making your point about Upper Mostyn Street Fester.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2012, 03:47:05 pm
I've often said Merrymoon would make a great coffee shop.

Businesses come, and businesses go. The renovation of the Clarence will boost that end of town significantly. Hoosons (£35k a year) and Merrymoon (£19k a year) are the key properties that need letting to boost the street.
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Post by: DaveR on December 27, 2012, 04:30:45 pm
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I think the swimming pool car park drains have been fixed at long last, only took them...4 years?


...and people say they're not on top of things...
It would appear my optimism was misplaced, sadly:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 30, 2012, 05:10:21 pm
What is Llandudno like right now?

Windy,  hellishly windy.... thats what!  :(
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Post by: born2run on December 30, 2012, 07:29:41 pm
Must be terrible your hair getting blown about and such  ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on December 30, 2012, 07:49:13 pm
What is Llandudno like right now?

Windy,  hellishly windy.... thats what!  :(

Enough to make one think about moving to warmer climes.   
$eu $sunny$ $sunny$ $sunny$

Portugal looks good.  :D
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Post by: wrex on December 31, 2012, 09:18:31 am
The town council have very kindly offered to sponsor your move to Portugal Yorkie the only problem is they are useing the decorative lighting budget to do it,so they get rid of you and have no money for xmas lights so they wind me up. >>>
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Post by: DaveR on December 31, 2012, 10:04:07 am
There was a nasty car crash yesterday afternoon in Trinity Square, two cars involved and fire service was there.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 31, 2012, 11:35:17 am
The town council have very kindly offered to sponsor your move to Portugal Yorkie the only problem is they are useing the decorative lighting budget to do it,so they get rid of you and have no money for xmas lights so they wind me up. >>>

In that case, Wrex, I better hang around at least until Xmas 2013, then they will have no excuse to offer for the lack of suitable illuminations for the festivities.
 :D
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Post by: DaveR on December 31, 2012, 11:40:07 am
What is Llandudno like right now?

Windy,  hellishly windy.... thats what!  :(
I actually enjoyed the rough weather. Yesterday evening, I went for a walk with a friend along the Prom, past the Pier and then over to the Kings Head for a couple of drinks. You just have to get togged up and get out there, it's not going to kill you.
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Post by: wrex on December 31, 2012, 04:18:09 pm
Happy New Year to all forum members and my 30 friends in Lloyd st,i just hope they show a little bit more commitment into my favorite issues x
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Post by: wrex on January 01, 2013, 06:55:48 pm
I hope that when people go back to work tomorrow somebody finds something to discuss this page has been dead as va dodo.
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Post by: Fester on January 01, 2013, 08:08:27 pm
What is Llandudno like right now?

Windy,  hellishly windy.... thats what!  :(
I actually enjoyed the rough weather. Yesterday evening, I went for a walk with a friend along the Prom, past the Pier and then over to the Kings Head for a couple of drinks. You just have to get togged up and get out there, it's not going to kill you.

If only that were true Dave... tragic scene in Blackpool.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-20880687 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-20880687)
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Post by: DaveR on January 01, 2013, 08:39:12 pm
Tragedies happen every day....it should never stop you doing anything.
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Post by: wrex on January 03, 2013, 10:35:15 am
I just thought i would try and generate some discussion on Llandudno,i know people think my views are to extreme so lets try and show our councillors it not just me and Yorkie that think they need to show a bit more commitment,i think fireworks at midnite on news years eve would bring punters back into the town center because it was like a morgue,the millenium killed new years eve,it has never recovered from the mistakes of the landlords,we are supposed to attract people to the town center.
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Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2013, 11:42:36 am
Wrex et al, the best solution to this Town Councils' attitude to the well being of the community is to get rid of them by starting a Petition for the whole Council to be disbanded en bloc.   I am sure any new Council elected would look to their duties somewhat more closely than the present bunch.   
 ;) ;)
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Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2013, 12:46:48 pm
Unfortunately, such a petition would result in the Town Council being dissolved.... permanently. Without there being any sort of replacement body solely dedicated to Llandudno, this would not be a good thing.
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Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2013, 01:07:36 pm
A seaside town's mayor says a pair of skinny dippers who joined in an annual Boxing Day charity swim spoiled the event for many people.

Dozens of swimmers took part in the annual Llandudno dip watched by a large crowd off the resort's North Shore.

But mayor Myra Wigzell said two swimmers were naked which led some parents to hurry their children away.

Police are studying CCTV to identify the naked swimmers and say officers will attend next year as a precaution.

Ms Wigzell, who was at the swim, says it is a family event and the actions of the pair were in "extremely bad taste".

One of them felt it necessary on the way out to extend or embellish his front with what appeared to be a long sock”

"It's always been excellent fun with lots of people dressing up," she said. The event has grown over the years and is looked forward to by everybody in the area and they often take the whole family out on Boxing Day to witness it.

"Unfortunately this year two people took it into their heads to skinny dip... which was unpleasant really.

"But the worst aspect of it was that one of them felt it necessary on the way out to extend or embellish his front with what appeared to be a long sock which made it into an even more unpleasant breach of public decency."

She said a lot of people attended the event and many probably would not have noticed what had happened.

"But some of the parents and grandparents who had their children with them who realised what was happening, I was told they hurried them away," she said.

"It really wasn't the sort of thing you wish to expose your children and grandchildren to in what was something that was supposed to be a pleasant event in the town."

She said it was probably intended as a "high-spirited prank" but the naked swimmers did not realise how inappropriate their actions were.

North Wales Police said the skinny dippers did not appear to be official swimmers but had just joined in.

Insp Ian Verburg said: "We are looking to find out who these individuals were by studying CCTV.

"It doesn't seem like they were part of the official group taking part in this charity event.

"There haven't been any official complaints but I will make sure there's a police presence at next year's event as a precaution."

The Boxing Day dip in Llandudno has been taking place for around 20 years and dozens of swimmers brave the water to raise money for charity.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20897116 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20897116)
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Post by: Nemesis on January 03, 2013, 01:09:39 pm
Embellish his front????
Whooo--- the mind boggles ! _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2013, 01:23:57 pm
Unfortunately, such a petition would result in the Town Council being dissolved.... permanently. Without there being any sort of replacement body solely dedicated to Llandudno, this would not be a good thing.

Not from what I understand.  See www.onevoicewales.gov.uk (http://www.onevoicewales.gov.uk) unless I have misunderstood it.
 $walesflag$
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Post by: wrex on January 03, 2013, 01:31:16 pm
Talk about a storm in a tea cup,just a shame there where no women taking part in the streak.
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Post by: dwsi on January 03, 2013, 03:27:44 pm
A seaside town's mayor says a pair of skinny dippers who joined in an annual Boxing Day charity swim spoiled the event for many people.

Dozens of swimmers took part in the annual Llandudno dip watched by a large crowd off the resort's North Shore.

But mayor Myra Wigzell said two swimmers were naked which led some parents to hurry their children away.

Police are studying CCTV to identify the naked swimmers and say officers will attend next year as a precaution.

Ms Wigzell, who was at the swim, says it is a family event and the actions of the pair were in "extremely bad taste".

One of them felt it necessary on the way out to extend or embellish his front with what appeared to be a long sock”

"It's always been excellent fun with lots of people dressing up," she said. The event has grown over the years and is looked forward to by everybody in the area and they often take the whole family out on Boxing Day to witness it.

"Unfortunately this year two people took it into their heads to skinny dip... which was unpleasant really.

"But the worst aspect of it was that one of them felt it necessary on the way out to extend or embellish his front with what appeared to be a long sock which made it into an even more unpleasant breach of public decency."

She said a lot of people attended the event and many probably would not have noticed what had happened.

"But some of the parents and grandparents who had their children with them who realised what was happening, I was told they hurried them away," she said.

"It really wasn't the sort of thing you wish to expose your children and grandchildren to in what was something that was supposed to be a pleasant event in the town."

She said it was probably intended as a "high-spirited prank" but the naked swimmers did not realise how inappropriate their actions were.

North Wales Police said the skinny dippers did not appear to be official swimmers but had just joined in.

Insp Ian Verburg said: "We are looking to find out who these individuals were by studying CCTV.

"It doesn't seem like they were part of the official group taking part in this charity event.

"There haven't been any official complaints but I will make sure there's a police presence at next year's event as a precaution."

The Boxing Day dip in Llandudno has been taking place for around 20 years and dozens of swimmers brave the water to raise money for charity.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20897116 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-20897116)

Daily Post article with a picture of the guilty party
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/01/03/police-investigate-naked-boxing-day-dipper-now-with-pic-55578-32539736/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/01/03/police-investigate-naked-boxing-day-dipper-now-with-pic-55578-32539736/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 03, 2013, 05:31:10 pm
Oh dear-- what a fuss.-- !
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Post by: born2run on January 03, 2013, 06:41:49 pm
What a joke - if you want to talk about public decency start by banning the Sun's page 3 girls which are spread across "The nation's favorite paper" every day. But I don't see the police hunting these people out!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2013, 06:59:24 pm
Are the Page 3 girls showing their genitals, Born2Run?  ???
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Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2013, 07:01:05 pm
If the only person offended was " Her Majesty" The Mayor then it can hardly be called " an act of PUBLIC indecency"  and any self respecting Magistrate or Judge would throw it out of Court.  That is if the DPP prosecuted in the first place.   WWW

Are the Page 3 girls showing their genitals, Born2Run?  ???

I didn't see any genitalia in the video or still photographs, I think the lad covered himself with his hands whilst out of the water.  But then again someone will no doubt tell me I'm wrong, which seems to be a common occurrence on this. forum nowadays.   Y^^Y
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Post by: martin on January 03, 2013, 07:54:46 pm
Well said Yorkie. $good$
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Post by: born2run on January 03, 2013, 07:56:00 pm
I agree with Yorkie - I saw the video and their area was covered (albeit modestly)
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Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2013, 08:07:37 pm
Remember, there was more than one lad. On the video I saw on Facebook, he certainly wasn't covered up as he was waving his arms about as he ran through the crowd.

Personally, I don't think it was that big a deal. If I had young kids though, I might not have been too happy. The difference with things like Page 3 girls, of course, is that you choose to look at them, whereas the Boxing Day Dip is a family event.
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Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2013, 09:37:29 pm
Remember, there was more than one lad. On the video I saw on Facebook, he certainly wasn't covered up as he was waving his arms about as he ran through the crowd.

Personally, I don't think it was that big a deal. If I had young kids though, I might not have been too happy. The difference with things like Page 3 girls, of course, is that you choose to look at them, whereas the Boxing Day Dip is a family event.

The second lad had a sock covering his penis which has been mentioned in reports, except that for the sake of PC the word penis has benn omitted.     L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 03, 2013, 10:02:34 pm
You seem to have studied the matter closely, Yorkie.  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on January 03, 2013, 10:07:57 pm
You seem to have studied the matter closely, Yorkie.  :laugh:

I have indeed, but possibly no closer than MISS Mayor who it must have got one hellova surprise!  With or without a stocking over the protuberance.  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 04, 2013, 07:56:02 am
Now we have a debate,naked bathing,naturists pound,that is a good idea,now we have seen one willy on the beach we may as well see more,im sure there are lots of naked people looking for somewhere to go in N Wales.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 04, 2013, 04:59:39 pm
I wonder if all the adverse publicity will increase or decrease the number of spectators for the 2013 Llandudno Lions Boxing Day Dip.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 04, 2013, 05:07:54 pm
Probably increase it ! _))*
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Post by: Yorkie on January 04, 2013, 05:33:14 pm
Why are Llandudno Council spending on a duplicate White Rabbit Statue?  Presumably to give the yobs something else to destroy.  The one we have plus the Alice Trail rabbit should be enough.   What a waste yet again by this inept Council.    :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 04, 2013, 06:15:03 pm
Bri if we can get a female streaker it will increase the crowds,as for the New White rabbit Yorkie,if it is indestructable then hey ho and as they blatanley refuse to spend the money on xmas lights then lets have a rabbit made of gold.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 04, 2013, 06:24:56 pm
Wrex, I've yet to see anything that is indestructible!   Those intent on vandalism will always manage to do damage.   :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2013, 07:54:16 pm
I didn't see any genitalia in the video or still photographs, I think the lad covered himself with his hands whilst out of the water.
As it happens, there's a photo in the Daily Post today. The lad is completely naked and waving his ams, the Daily Post Photoshopped a xmas hat on over his genitals to cover his modesty.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 04, 2013, 08:00:36 pm
The police getting involved is a joke,the lad probably did it for a bet,i was watching from the back,Ian made a joke of it and all i heard was people laughting,sorry but i think it has gone too far.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 04, 2013, 08:08:56 pm
Llandudno "skinny dipper" to apologise to mayor and Lions
By David Powell Jan 4 2013


THE MAYOR of Llandudno has praised police action to ensure that a Boxing Day skinny dipper writes letters of apology.

The unnamed student, 21, shocked onlookers nine days ago as he joined crowds rushing into the sea at the town's North Shore beach in the traditional event.

Cllr Myra Wigzell complained to police about the skinny dipping. Police traced the man and ordered him to write letters of apology to the mayor and to the Llandudno Lions Club charity who helped organise the event.

She told the Daily Post: "It's exactly the right action by the police And I think the person involved has behaved exactly as he should have (in agreeing to write the letters). I admire his behaviour."

She added: "I am very happy to let the matter drop. Let's hope nothing like that happens in future."

She also said that the police have done "splendidly" in the way that they have dealt with the matter.

North Wales Police say that there will be a police presence at next year's Boxing Day dip in Llandudno to ensure everyone is lawabiding.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 04, 2013, 09:13:41 pm
Please can I have some of my tax back?  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 05, 2013, 12:41:24 pm
Will the police enter the water to arrest any streakers or will they ask the lifeboat crew
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Post by: norman08 on January 05, 2013, 02:01:36 pm
i,ll bet they will book the lifeboat for parking 1st  :P  _))*
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Post by: Ian on January 05, 2013, 07:53:39 pm
 _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: Yorkie on January 05, 2013, 08:07:13 pm
I didn't see any genitalia in the video or still photographs, I think the lad covered himself with his hands whilst out of the water.
As it happens, there's a photo in the Daily Post today. The lad is completely naked and waving his ams, the Daily Post Photoshopped a xmas hat on over his genitals to cover his modesty.

Oh!  Yes, so there is!   However, Mr Mayor was not in such a position as to able to view his appendage which had obviously suffered from the rather cold weather and water.   When returning from his dip in the briney he covered himself with cupped hands, although a postage stamp would have probably been sufficient to do the job!    _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 06, 2013, 10:33:40 am
If you look at the youtube clips you will see that he has taken his trainer off and covered his biots with this,im not sure what size the trainers was though.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on January 09, 2013, 09:28:01 pm
Plenty of rescue helicopter activity on the Orme this morning. Not sure if it was a trial run or something real. The helicopter circled dropped a winchman, then a body board and finally landed on the Orme just above the ski slope waiting for someone to be rescued?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 09, 2013, 10:03:48 pm
At noon today it had landed in the playground of the school in Conwy, (just outside the castle walls, Gyffin side)

It was being demonstrated to hundreds of excited schoolkids.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2013, 09:04:36 am
More appalling mismanagement from the BCUHT:

Llandudno Hospital breast cancer surgery will cease
Jan 10 2013 by Judith Phillips, North Wales Weekly News

BREAST surgery at Llandudno Hospital will cease almost immediately despite protests from campaigners.
And a councillor has called for The Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board to be dissolved for going back on a promise to retain the service.

Shocked Llandudno town councillors discussed the issue as an urgent item on Tuesday, and Cllr Greg Robbins received unanimous support for letters to be sent to the chief executive of the health board and to Welsh health minister lesley Griffiths asking for surgery to be retained at the hospital.

“The letters should express our extreme shock and disappointment that promises made have been broken and totally disregarded.

“I believe we should also say that we as a council have lost all trust in the Betsi Cadwaladr Board and ask that it be dissolved.”

The vice-chairman of the Llandudno Hospital Action Group, Carol Marubbi said she and the chairman, Linda Groom had been given assurances by former health minister Edwina Hart that breast surgery would be safe, and that the hospital would have a new women’s health centre.

“This unit is a centre of excellence and the service it offers is exceptional.
“It is just appalling that all the promises we were given just three years by the minister, have been broken.
“We never thought for a minute that the breast surgery service was at risk,” she complained.

Doreen Atkinson and Dorothy Smith from Llandudno, have both undergone surgery on Maesdu Ward at Llandudno Hospital and are fighting to keep it.

Doreen commented: “I am horrified about the way the public and patients have been let down after all the promises made by the previous health minister, Edwina Hart, and the work done by a project board regarding the plans for new hospital departments in Llandudno, in particular a dedicated Women’s Health unit combining screening, surgery and aftercare.
“I have heard all the arguments but am not convinced that a way cannot be found to keep this unit.
“The unit was classed as being excellent. Breast surgery is very traumatic and having a dedicated unit away from the main large hospitals cuts down the chance of infection.
“Part of the recovery process from surgery, which is so excellent in Llandudno, is that you are with women suffering from the same problem, and it must save the NHS money that it helps ladies recover quicker rather than being with patients having different operations.
“I think it is overlooked that it is the people who pay the taxes that supply the Welsh Government with the resources to fund the NHS.
“The services at Llandudno have been reviewed and reviewed over the last few years, and the money that this has cost could have helped fund a new unit and it could be up and running now.
“I feel there has been a hidden agenda all along to cut all types of surgery at the hospital, gradually transferring operations to Ysbyty Gwynedd, including the endoscopy unit. So much money is wasted in the NHS on projects that never seem to get off the ground,” said Doreen.

A statement from the Betsi Cadwaladr Trust issued yesterday (Wednesday) said shorter hours for junior doctors meant surgery at the hospital was at risk.
However there were plans to ensure patient safety if it was moved elsewhere.
And gave an assurance: “The majority of breast services at Llandudno Hospital, including clinics, diagnostics and the Breast Test Wales service will not be affected.”
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Post by: Fester on January 11, 2013, 10:44:24 am
Oh, that's just sickening.
Once again, we are informed by pompous politicians that some great new resource is coming to our town, only to have the whole house of cards collapse.
I bet they are not even ashamed of themselves.

It makes me wonder whether the whole ''project'' was just a scam, to line the pockets of the project team, the politicians, and to perpetuate the employment of the overpaid NHS managers.

Having worked on many 'projects' in my time, the use of resource has to be justified, the need has to be established and the outcome agreed by all (including the financiers) before spending the time and money on it.

At the end of the day, there are human beings with very frightening health issues, who now find themselves with the additional worry of where and how they will be treated. The uncertainty will not help, and it is not fair.

One day, we will learn to completely ignore the hollow words of politicians.  &shake&

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 13, 2013, 06:20:51 pm
Now the excellent weekend of tAKE PART has ended, Venue Cymru has FREE washed builders sand for collection now and tomorrow!!!!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2013, 07:29:07 am
Belle Vue Hotel going up for auction, £300k guide price:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-25496178.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-25496178.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cordyline on January 15, 2013, 03:37:43 pm
What a superb location

Does it have car parking ?
Would make three or four nice apartments there
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2013, 07:50:02 pm
What a superb location

Does it have car parking ?
Would make three or four nice apartments there
No car parking, I dont think.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2013, 07:50:43 pm
A bitterly cold wind and a rough sea today:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 18, 2013, 08:05:58 pm
Yes, a very cold wind, made my face ache earlier when we had a quick walk!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 18, 2013, 08:19:40 pm
It's fair to say the Prom wasn't particularly busy!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 18, 2013, 08:59:30 pm
No cyclists? No Punch and Judy?  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 19, 2013, 08:00:36 am
...or deck chairs...
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Post by: hollins on January 19, 2013, 08:50:15 am
.....or snow....which is a pity because I was hoping for some more snowy promenade pictures.
It was interesting to see your photos from yesterday though because I was wondering if you had had much snow down there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on January 19, 2013, 08:34:18 pm
What a superb location

Does it have car parking ?
Would make three or four nice apartments there

No Codyline no Parking and most defiantly no to Apartments you would never be granted change of use as all apartments have to have there own dedicate parking spaces. Once it's sold we will have to meet our sixth set of neighbours since 1997
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 22, 2013, 02:19:47 pm
News,anything,even a rumour,something must be happening somewhere.I never thought things could get this quiet.
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Post by: romanjohn on January 22, 2013, 03:44:14 pm
Would this work for llandudno. In Portsmouth all our floral displays roundabouts baskets on the lampost ect. the sea front are sponserd by firms in and around the city and the xmas lights its worth a gamble get every one involved. Wake up the council  AGAIN. Do llandudno JUSTICE The Jewel in the crown of Welsh seaside resorts.    ROMANJOHN                                                                                                                                                                                 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 22, 2013, 05:15:02 pm
It's a good idea, John, and one that I've put forward in the past.

It would be very simple for CCBC to have a section of their website listing all the flowerbeds available for sponsorship, together with the fee payable. Companies or even individuals could then buy the sponsorship, in return for a small sign on the roundabout. At a time when funds are apparently very tight, I find it amazing that obvious ideas like this one are not implemented.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 22, 2013, 05:21:42 pm
The Council web site, is badly constructed, devoid of useful information, is mostly out of date, and does not have anyone able to maintain it.  It is full of errors, spelling, grammar and facts.

The whole thing needs to be redesigned and maintained with up to date information, or just kicked into touch.   Other Councils in the County seem to be able to make good use of their web sites and put Llandudno to shame.     :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 22, 2013, 05:30:21 pm
You're talking about the Town Council website, I think, which is pretty poor in terms of functionality. The CCBC website is pretty good, in comparison.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 22, 2013, 06:31:24 pm
You're talking about the Town Council website, I think, which is pretty poor in terms of functionality. The CCBC website is pretty good, in comparison.

Quite right, Dave, I have been critical of the Town Council and its web site for many moons now.   I must agree the County site is fine and also bi-lingual.   >>>  $uk $wales
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: romanjohn on January 22, 2013, 10:12:26 pm
Could you not ask Jason Weyman he has more go in him than the whole council put together but we have same bunch of clowns in portsmouth with a few good guys and ladies That reminds me our Council want to close some of our Toilets and charge no PRIZES  20 PENCE A GO IS THIS A  BOG STANDARD PRICE.Sorry on a bit of run there Dave hope you dont mind me bringing up   portsmouth some times will keep you posted on South PARADE PIER.   Thanks romanjohn                          This is the second time i have written this I did not log in S.O.G.                                                     
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on January 22, 2013, 10:28:20 pm
Unfortunately Jason is no longer a councillor!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2013, 09:14:59 am
Most of Conwy County's toilets are going over to a 20p charge as they are refurbished. I suppose if it guarantees a clean, well maintained toilet, then its not such a bad thing.

Speaking of toilets, the Town Council run toilets at Bog Island have been closed for several months now - why?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: romanjohn on January 23, 2013, 12:21:46 pm
Thank you jack for the info. not being local you dont  always know whats going on. I am just looking at Jason weymans  blog very informative the very best of luck to him.  Romanjohn
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 24, 2013, 08:52:24 am
Does anyone know when the Daffs are due up and how they are going to promote when they come up,how long do Daffs stay for etc.This is a great idea as is the crocus they have started to put around town,i remember seeing them in Harrogate and thought they looked spectacular.I went to Dwgyfylchi a few weeks ago and was stunned to see all the daffs out in front of the church,i even went over and made sure they where real,obviously they are established but i walked along Haulfre gardens yesterday and i can see no sign of one daff coming up,i presume they have put the daffs in the gardens,back to the question how is the Daff capitol of Wales going to be promoted once the first ones appear,i am looking forward to seeing them,just not sure how you promote them in such a small timescale.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2013, 10:00:16 am
I think you can get a week or two of flowering out of them at most. I'm not sure if the ones planted recently in Llandudno will flower this year?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 24, 2013, 11:18:40 am
The daffs planted this year should flower if they haven't succumbed to slugs, snails or other 'nibblers' like squirrels. When is anyone's guess, it will be a matter of keeping an eye on their progress. We used to visit the Farndale valley every year and the timing could be a month either way depending on the weather.
I lost a lot of my bulbs last year, something either nibbled at them or dug them up. This year I have planted more in pots and so far they are coming up nicely.
On the same subject ( almost) my snowdrops are slow this year and alot have transferred themselves from the soil in the garden into the slate path.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on January 24, 2013, 12:06:24 pm
Daffs are a bit like potatoes - you can get early ones, main crop and then later varieties, so you will see some from now on till April. There should be a good show for Easter this year with it being at the end of March.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on January 24, 2013, 04:38:11 pm
Llandudno, Dog Poo capital of Wales http://youtu.be/Nd1jz1Co1iM (http://youtu.be/Nd1jz1Co1iM)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 24, 2013, 09:45:19 pm
Sorry,is it me and just me or does the fact that Llandudno town beach is void of sand and yet we read tonnes of sand for Colwyn bay beaches.CCBC are just beyond me,but where the hell are our councillors on this one?.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2013, 09:54:55 pm
Be fair, Wrex, they're only getting 400,000 tonnes of sand, they can't be any spare for Llandudno.  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 25, 2013, 09:46:07 am
Driving along Colwyn Bay Prom yesterday it did not seem that the beach was in any way short of sand!  Pleny for any sand castle contest one could organise.

 $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2013, 12:06:54 pm
It's quite a good beach really so I hope that these consultants don't make the same mistake as they did on the West Shore at LLandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on January 25, 2013, 09:41:57 pm
Does anyone know when the Daffs are due up and how they are going to promote when they come up,how long do Daffs stay for etc.This is a great idea as is the crocus they have started to put around town,i remember seeing them in Harrogate and thought they looked spectacular.I went to Dwgyfylchi a few weeks ago and was stunned to see all the daffs out in front of the church,i even went over and made sure they where real,obviously they are established but i walked along Haulfre gardens yesterday and i can see no sign of one daff coming up,i presume they have put the daffs in the gardens,back to the question how is the Daff capitol of Wales going to be promoted once the first ones appear,i am looking forward to seeing them,just not sure how you promote them in such a small timescale.

Send a message to Blodyn and you will get a proper answer to your question Wrex. The Daffs we planted are all showing good signs of growth and if it hadn't been for this cold spell they would have been well on the way to budding. Most Daffs weather permitting, tend to flower around St. David’s Day (that’s the 1st of March for the English speakers) and you can expect them to last for at least a Month.

If you want to know how they are going to promote the Daffodils have a look on http://www.daffodilcapitalofwales.co.uk/ (http://www.daffodilcapitalofwales.co.uk/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2013, 09:17:19 am
Thank you Blongb,that is a good website,very impressed,will walk up the Happy Valley tomoz and have a look.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 26, 2013, 01:01:00 pm
Wrex-- you'll have to attract Blodyn's attention on the forum, as we have lost the ability to private message.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2013, 10:39:57 pm
For all of you who did not see "How Britain Works" all about Llandudno,it will be repeated tomorrow night on More 4 at 9pm(sunday)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2013, 06:39:57 pm
'Die Motherf*****': Crazed neighbour stabbed line dancer and wife with Rambo hunting knife 'because they tidied up his flat while feeding the cat '

By Simon Tomlinson
PUBLISHED: 16:27, 29 January 2013 | UPDATED: 17:53, 29 January 2013


An elderly line dancer and his houseproud wife were stabbed in a Rambo-style revenge attack by a crazed pensioner who went berserk over them cleaning his flat.

Retired salesman Nigel Gibbs, 66, and his 67-year-old wife Marjorie had agreed to look after neighbour Sean Tierney's pet cat while he attended an air show.

But former soldier Tierney, 66, was furious when he returned to his home in Llandudno, Wales, to find the couple had thrown some mouldy food out of his fridge, emptied the cat litter and did some vacuum cleaning.

When he heard Mr Gibbs doing some DIY with a power saw at his flat next door, Tierney grabbed a combat knife and stabbed his neighbour in the chest in a vicious ambush.

As Mr Gibbs attempted to escape, Tierney who was said to have 'staring eyes like a zombie in a film', then ran into the victim's home and repeatedly stabbed Marjorie as she dialled 999 for help.

An operator who fielded the call could only listen in horror as Mrs Gibbs screamed for her life whilst Tierney shouted: 'die motherf******!'.

The devoted couple who had just moved to the Welsh seaside town after living in California for 15 years were rushed to hospital fighting for life and were said to be lucky to survive the attack.

Later when Tierney was arrested and interviewed, he told police how he had been 'wound up' by Mr Gibbs who was nicknamed 'Tex' by friends due to his stint in the U.S.

He told officers: 'It had to happen, he won't give up creating problems for me, mechanically sawing deliberately without informing me of all the noise, so he's just a wind up, so he had to go.'
'Like a zombie': Former soldierSean Tierney was furious when hefouind out the couple had thrown some mouldy food from his fridge, emptied the cat litter and vacuumed his house

'Like a zombie': Former soldierSean Tierney was furious when hefouind out the couple had thrown some mouldy food from his fridge, emptied the cat litter and vacuumed his house

Today, as Tierney began a life sentence after admitting attempted murder, Mr and Mrs Gibbs who have since quit their home vowed to put the attack behind them by telling one another every day how they much loved each other.

'We are both positive people and wish to put the incident behind us, but the attack has affected our confidence,' they said in a statement.

'We would not like Sean Tierney to be able to inflict such pain on any other person and we will not let him ruin our lives. We both feel lucky to be alive.'

The couple who have been together for 46 years were said to have been a 'caring and lovely' couple who often helped their neighbours with gardening and housework.

Mr Gibbs formerly of Oswestry, Shropshire worked as a salesman for a telecoms company in Saudi Arabia before moving with his wife to California in 1986.

He worked for a car firm in Newport Beach and later at garage door company in Los Angeles. It is believed he retired in 1990 and the couple returned to the UK in February last year and moved into the flat in Ffordd Dulyn, Llandudno.

Initially the couple were friends with Tierney who lived in the flat above but trouble began in August last year after they agreed to look after his cat while he went away to an air show and he returned to find his home had been tidied.

Mold Crown Court was told Tierney, who was dismissed from the military when he was in his 20s, had 'got it into his head that his neighbours were interfering or changing his way of life.' and 'snapped'.

Mr Gibbs was using the power saw outside the apartment block when Tierney suddenly put the combat knife to his face and told him: 'I'm going to teach you a lesson' before he stabbed him in the chest.

He tried to flee the attack but Tierney then aimed for Mrs Gibbs's throat as she was inside her flat calling for help.

She put her right arm up to protect herself described how she almost lost her hand. She escaped by jumping out of a bedroom window and was bleeding profusely from the wounds to the chest, wrist and abdomen.

After the attack Tierney left a phone message for a friend in which he told how he had 'just killed those two bastards downstairs' before being arrested by armed police following an hour long siege of his flat.

Mrs Gibbs is still awaiting further surgery, and said her life will never be the same again.
Screamed for her life: Mrs Gibbs was repeatedly stabbed by Tierney as she dialled 999 for help

Screamed for her life: Mrs Gibbs was repeatedly stabbed by Tierney as she dialled 999 for help

She had three stab wounds to her right breast, one to her abdomen, a very deep wound to her right wrist and a wound to the thumb.

She underwent emergency surgery on her liver and a major wound which went through her diaphragm and penetrated the chest and lung.

In a victim impact statement the couple said loved socialising, especially square or line dancing and had planned to take up ballroom dancing.

But since the knife attack Mrs Gibbs had not regained the movement in her right hand. She told how she had a visible deep scar across the wrist and took 20 tablets a day for the pain.

She was conscious of the scars she had all over her body, from the actual knife wounds and the surgical intervention which saved her life.

'Every day I feel the pain and the trauma of the stabbing,' she said. 'I had always been such a strong person but I am now living on my nerves.'

She is now unable to wash her hair herself, dress walk or dance. She struggled to sleep and sometimes witnessed her husband having nightmares.
Scene: Tierney went berserk after returning to his house (red door, far right) to find the couple had cleaned

Scene: Tierney went berserk after returning to his house (red door, far right) to find the couple had cleaned

Her husband said that he suffered nightmares and flashbacks and relived being stabbed and running for his life.

Mr Gibbs who suffered a badly damaged right lung was not able to walk upstairs without losing his breath and they could no longer go dancing. It had affected his confidence and he was now more introverted.

He had suffered a lung infection at Christmas and annual lung capacity tests showed that his lungs had deteriorated by some 20%.

Their lives had changed dramatically and he was now constantly looking after his wife, who had been severely affected. He suffered nightmares and flashbacks and relived being stabbed and running for his life.

Tierney must serve a minimum of 15 years before being considered for parole. Judge Merfyn Hughes QC told him: 'You destroyed your victims' lives.

'They will never regain the happy days that they had been enjoying in their retirement until these dreadful events'.

After the case, Det Insp Iestyn Davies of North Wales Police said: 'Sean Tierney stabbed Mr and Mrs Gibbs for no apparent reason and it is due to their strength and determination, together with the skill of the medical staff that they have survived.

'Tierney armed himself with a combat knife with the intention to kill Nigel and Marjorie and very nearly achieved his aim.

At the time of the attack one neighbour Wendy Jones, 44, said: 'They are such lovely

people who were out to help anybody. They have done so much for me and this is so sad.

'We are all just in shock about what has happened. I have cerebral palsy and cannot drive so they have given me lifts and just recently took me to buy a digital camera because I was going on holiday to visit a friend.

'They have also cooked meals for me when I have been feeling low, they have done so much. They really looked out for me and other people on the estate, they are very caring people. They got on with everyone and would not hurt a fly.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270181/Elderly-line-dancer-wife-stabbed-Rambo-revenge-attack-crazed-neighbour-tidying-flat-him.html#ixzz2JOJYkQsU (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270181/Elderly-line-dancer-wife-stabbed-Rambo-revenge-attack-crazed-neighbour-tidying-flat-him.html#ixzz2JOJYkQsU)
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Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2013, 07:55:47 pm
The main jetty has sustained quite a bit of damage this Winter:
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Post by: DaveR on January 31, 2013, 12:42:48 pm
Llandudno Hospital Action Group
The Biggest Protest March we have ever held is planned for 23 February . 11am from North Western Gardens.We are being joined by groups from all over North Wales who are disappointed with BCUHB , Please support us. More details later.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Llandudno-Hospital-Action-Group/118206791568970 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Llandudno-Hospital-Action-Group/118206791568970)
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Post by: Llechwedd on February 02, 2013, 11:05:39 am
Just noticed that some of the letters on Littlers Buildings have dropped off.  Wonder how long before it reads Litter Bugs!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2013, 03:50:33 pm
Just seen a car actually parked halfway across the Pedestrian Crossing outside Marks - amazing!
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Post by: cygnusx-1 on February 02, 2013, 07:41:07 pm
Did you get a picture as it is worth 3 points on their licence and a complimentary fine to boot?

Lazy b@st@rd for parking in a position endangering people on the crossing but at least the driver was not doing 41mph towards the Links Hotel down Conway Road which attracts the same penalty.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2013, 08:08:29 pm
I was passing in a car, so didn't have time. Couldn't believe it though!  :o
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Post by: TheMedz on February 02, 2013, 09:10:00 pm
Probably thought it was ok if they parked between the two sets of zig zag lines which are on either side of the crossing. No zig zag lines, no double yellows. Obvious place to park.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on February 05, 2013, 09:23:26 pm
I see on the weekly county planning applications register that an application has been submitted to develop the Augusta Holiday Flats. They will be reduced in number from 35 to 28 apparently. So, hopefully another eyesore going soon. I wonder who is developing them...Mostyn, housing assoc? Anyone know? Will be much better hopefully and some more life for that area too!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 08, 2013, 12:20:07 pm
Just seen this on the CCBC website


13/02/2013 - Planning Committee Code Ref: 0/39171 - Construction of 3 no. fourth floor bedrooms, installation of 2 no. sash windows to east elevation on fourth floor, extension to smoking shelter and relocation of air handling unit. Empire Hotel, 73 Church Walks, Llandudno 13/02/2013
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Post by: Ian48 on February 08, 2013, 12:38:41 pm
Has that not just been sent back to the committee to confirm because they went against the Planning Officer's recommendation? They usually have to do that the following month after they reject it.

Usually in Conwy the councillors do reject it again and then it goes to appeal in Cardiff and the Inspector allows it and they end up costing us a lot of money in the process.
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Post by: Blongb on February 08, 2013, 02:22:36 pm
Has that not just been sent back to the committee to confirm because they went against the Planning Officer's recommendation? They usually have to do that the following month after they reject it.

Usually in Conwy the councillors do reject it again and then it goes to appeal in Cardiff and the Inspector allows it and they end up costing us a lot of money in the process.

This time it was a little bit different Ian, instead of the usual retrograde planning application that the Empire submit when caught out, they actually did apply in a correct manner to build the 4 extra bedrooms but all the occupants of Tan-Yr-Ogo Terrace put in objections
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 10, 2013, 11:15:36 am
instead of the usual retrograde planning application that the Empire submit when caught out
Do you have an examples of this? I don't recall any?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 10, 2013, 11:47:02 am
instead of the usual retrograde planning application that the Empire submit when caught out
Do you have an examples of this? I don't recall any?

I have a friend who is a neighbour to the Empire and his entire conversation is about problems he and his family have with unauthorised work being carried out, normally by Anwyl (a company I haven’t forgiven for the destruction of Penmorfa (Gogarth Abbey)), on behalf of the Empire. I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of what I have been told.  &shake&
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Post by: Blongb on February 10, 2013, 07:01:15 pm
instead of the usual retrograde planning application that the Empire submit when caught out
Do you have an examples of this? I don't recall any?
Further to my above Dave, a simple FOI request to CCBC would easily settle how many retrograde planning applications have been submitted on behalf of the Empire. Purely from a personal point of view, I wouldn't have any objections to their plans for more bedrooms as it would help make the Empire a stronger business, which in this economic climate must be seen as a good thing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 10, 2013, 07:23:53 pm
Well, all of CCBC's Planning Applications are listed in Google but, try as I might,  I can't find any examples of retrospective planning permission being applied for:

"retrospective planning permission" "empire hotel" llandudno
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 13, 2013, 05:38:03 pm
13/02/13 - Coastal defences on North Shore

Work is scheduled to take place on North Shore, Llandudno as part of maintenance to retain the standard of the coastal defences.

The work, which will start next week, will take place on a section of beach extending from 100m west of the Trevor Street Slipway and along the shore to 180m east of Ty'n Y Ffrith Road.

The work involves returning beach material, moved by natural processes, to its original location within the coastal defences.  We'll be moving existing material within the area and importing additional material to replace materials that have been washed away. 

The Council will also be temporarily working along North Shore, as part of the planned coastal defence scheme for Colwyn Bay.  A steel pipeline will be constructed on the upper section of North Shore beach and once constructed will be floated out to sea and transported by boat to Colwyn Bay.   

Sections of the promenade and beach will be closed to the public for short periods when work is taking place and to allow materials to be delivered and unloaded.

Work will start on Monday, 18th February 2013 and will take three to four weeks to complete.

For more information please contact Conwy's Environment and Infrastructure Department on (01492) 575337 or e-mail environment.infrastructure@conwy.gov.uk


 
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Post by: Michael on February 13, 2013, 08:00:18 pm
    My God, this should stir up some emotions from the Llandudno nobility.

   A bloody great pipe ----- being built on our promenade  ----- and then,  and then  ( now speechless) 

   being towed away to that bloody lot behind the Little Orme.      Mike

     Please excuse the strong language.   Its the only way I can translate the speech into words.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 13, 2013, 08:21:44 pm
This is the same guy who killed the swan at West Shore a few years back.  &shake& When he was arrested then, one of the officers told Miah it was illegal to kill a swan because it was the property of the Queen, to which Miah replied: "I hate the Queen, I hate this country.". Apparently, doesn't hate it enough to go and live somewhere else to scrounge benefits there?


Community order for Llandudno Muslim man who claimed religion allowed him to hit wife


By Owen Hughes
Feb 13 2013

A Muslim man who claimed his religion entitled him to hit his wife has been given a community order.

Shamshu Miah, 58, of Alexandra Road, Llandudno, struck his wife three times after she did not get him a cigarette.

He later told police his religion allowed him to hit his wife if she did not do as she was told.

Yesterday Llandudno magistrates court heard his wife continued to support Miah, who suffered from bipolar episodes.

The court heard she wanted him to move back to the family home.

Miah was ordered to undertake community mental health treatment. He has to pay £85 costs.
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Post by: norman08 on February 13, 2013, 08:36:21 pm
and if that had been a british guy he would have been fined a lot more or jailed 
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Post by: Hugo on February 13, 2013, 10:36:48 pm
and if that had been a british guy he would have been fined a lot more or jailed

You are probably correct Norman,   Do you know if this was the same Miah from Alexandra Road that killed a Swan on West Shore and tried to eat it because he was hungry in the month of Ramadan?        :rage:

I've just checked Google and it is the same person. He's a nutter to put it very kindly.      :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 18, 2013, 06:26:50 pm
I hope as many people as possible attend the March to show their support for Llandudno Hospital:
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Post by: Ian on February 19, 2013, 07:36:43 am
We'll be there.  It's been very good to me - admittedly for only minor issues - but the facility as a whole is much needed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 19, 2013, 08:15:25 am
I'd certainly be there but am out of the area this weekend, unfortunately.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 20, 2013, 03:02:06 pm
Just seen this on the CCBC website


13/02/2013 - Planning Committee Code Ref: 0/39171 - Construction of 3 no. fourth floor bedrooms, installation of 2 no. sash windows to east elevation on fourth floor, extension to smoking shelter and relocation of air handling unit. Empire Hotel, 73 Church Walks, Llandudno 13/02/2013

Just seen in this week's Pioneer, that the application has now been approved
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on February 21, 2013, 10:17:14 pm
Walking my dogs in the early hours of Monday morning (2.30am) couldn't believe my eyes when four armed Police officers entering with haste the flats at 129 Mostyn street. dont know much more as I was moved on by Police Officers. What was that all about ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 21, 2013, 10:37:20 pm
It's a 'wild world', Cat.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 21, 2013, 10:51:19 pm
Which is 129 Mostyn St?   Is that above the closed Gimberts shop?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 21, 2013, 10:59:32 pm
Which is 129 Mostyn St?   Is that above the closed Gimberts shop?
Correct. I believe those flats were the probable target of the arson attack on the shop that took place a few months ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 28, 2013, 07:36:16 am
Can;t wait to go and build my sandcastle on the town beach.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 28, 2013, 07:55:18 am
Yes, the news that 'Council officials' have decided to spend money on moving sand from the West shore to the North shore comes only about two years after Hugo and several others in here asked why they weren't doing it anyway.

Here's an idea: why don't we have - on one day a year - a special open session in which anyone from the town can ask any councillor anything at all? It's perfectly feasible. Tickets could be sold in advance for a nominal fee - say, £1.00 - and the sales would give an approximate idea of what size venue to book.  Alternatively, admission could be free, but pre-registration would still be required and people could use their rate demand notices as admission tickets.

At the session, anyone could ask anything to any councillor, and this could be spontaneous, although probably some sort of pre-filtering process - ideally done by a local community group to avoid the possibility of councillors 'losing' questions they didn't want to answer - might be desirable.

There are all manner of questions that arise in here and many - like the sand issue - have answers which seem glaringly obvious, so it might be nice to know what the reasons are for the systematic prevarication which seems to pervade every aspect of council business. If this were made an annual event and attendance by all councillors mandated then I suspect good councillors would find it an opportunity while the poor ones might seize the opportunity to stand down in the future. Just a thought, anyway.
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Post by: Yorkie on February 28, 2013, 08:09:31 am
A suggestion that has been mooted in the past, but with the apathetic attitude of the Electorate the attendance could consist mainly of cranks, in both camps! >>>

I did notice yet another flotilla of porcine beasts preparing to take off over the County of Conwy but they stayed grounded due to poor results from the reconnaissance reports received!  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2013, 10:13:13 am
Interesting idea, Ian. As we saw with the Colwyn Bay Pier meetings a few years ago, the people will turn out in large numbers for issues that concern them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2013, 06:51:31 pm
Thick fog has covered most of central Llandudno all afternoon, this was the scene on the Pier earlier:
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Post by: hollins on February 28, 2013, 06:55:42 pm
Love that one DaveR!
I think it is unusual for Llandudno to be foggy?
I miss the fog from my Peak District days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2013, 07:06:43 pm
It's very unusual, I think we get 1 or 2 foggy days a year at most. Today has been the foggiest day I can ever remember, it's hung around all afternoon, giving me a chance to get some great photos.  ;D Outside, right, now, the fog is the thickest I've ever known it.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8525/8516809534_a18e4b8f36_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8516809534/)
Foggy Day (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/8516809534/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 28, 2013, 09:48:09 pm
The fog may have been playing tricks with my eyes but there appeared to be a horse assisting with the coastal defence works...
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 28, 2013, 10:45:19 pm
You can never have enough horsepower! The fog did seem very strange, we drove up the Orme for a look at it!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/P1010844_zps659de481.jpg)
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Post by: Ian on March 01, 2013, 07:51:14 am
Quote
* llandudno fog horse

Surely that ought to have been stabled at the Great Orme Light-horse...   WWW WWW WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 01, 2013, 08:10:09 am
 :laugh: Beefburgers, someone had to say it!  :D
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Post by: hollins on March 01, 2013, 08:32:38 am
It's very unusual, I think we get 1 or 2 foggy days a year at most. Today has been the foggiest day I can ever remember, it's hung around all afternoon, giving me a chance to get some great photos.


Did you take any of the prom?
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Post by: Ian48 on March 01, 2013, 11:42:05 am
From The Daily Post on the seafront works:

"A THOUSAND tonnes of sand is being switched between a town’s shores in the first step towards restoring it’s once golden beach.

And the move will also tackle the problem of windblown sand accumulating at Llandudno’s West Shore.

The trial project starts next week, when the first batch of sand which has been blighting the West Shore boating lake is carried to the beach on the prom at North Shore.

Conwy County Council cabinet member for the environment, Mike Priestley, said: “We have listened to what people have said – both about the nuisance effect of windblown sand at West Shore and the concerns about diminishing sand on the North Shore.”


Over the winter, tonnes of sand are blown from the beach at West Shore, and much of it accumulates near the nearby White Rabbit statue and lake.

Gogarth ward councillor Margaret Lyon originally came up with the idea of using it to replenish the North Shore – and she is delighted that her suggestion is being taken up.

“That’s brilliant news. There’s an awful lot of sand at West Shore which is blighting the area, and not enough at North Shore. I’m hoping this trial will work – if it does, it will benefit both shores in terms of tourism and amenity for locals,” she said.

The council’s technical manager Dyfed Rowlands said the trial will be closely monitored. He added: “Over the years, a large build up of sand has accumulated and now comes right to the top of the secondary sea wall, which encourages windblown sand entering the area towards the properties of West Shore.

“A thousand tonnes of sand will be deposited between the RNLI slipway and the pier to increase the amenity value of the beach in this area in readiness for the tourist season.”

He said engineers recognised that some sort of groyne or similar structure might be needed to keep the sand in place, but the situation would be reviewed after the trial.

He added that beach management work was underway at North Shore which involves the importation of 6,000 tonnes of shingle and re-profiling of the existing shingle bank to help protect the town from flooding. Rocks are also being cleared from the sand seaward of the lifeboat slipway to improve launching of the lifeboat and to provide a suitable surface for donkey rides.

Cllr Graham Rees, who heads the Destination Conwy tourism body, said: “Enhance the visitor experience is welcome. We are also working on plans to replace the North Shore shelters with Victorian style ones, and also to smarten up the Craig y Don paddling pool.”


One or two points, I appreciate them doing this, but I would have said that it's the other side of the slipway that needs sand, the little beach by the pier entrance already has a fair bit of sand left. Likewise, I am quite perturbed by them saying that 6,000 more tons of of shingle are to be placed the other side of the slipway, going down the prom. I hope there is a very pressing environmental need for yet more rocks to be placed on that section of the beach!

On the other hand, the last sentence sounds promising about the shelters. Few things would improve the seafront at Llandudno more than replacing those shelters. I imagine that the Victorian ones there originally must've been replaced as they were rusted or past-it perhaps. Does anyone know the year? - probably in the 60s at some point. Is the shelter in the central reservation in Gloddaeth Avenue a lucky survivor of them? Or was that always there?

However, various people have talked about replacing the shelters since the late 80s (at least), so I don't know how much we can hope!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on March 01, 2013, 12:24:41 pm
It's very unusual, I think we get 1 or 2 foggy days a year at most.


It rolls in off the sea from the North Shore like a big blanket of cotton wool.
It happened one day when I was working Llandudno Signalbox and was so bad the train drivers were ringing me in the box to ask if the signal was off as they couldn't see the end of the platform.
It wasn't quite that bad yesterday but there were some pockets when it came very close.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 01, 2013, 12:31:38 pm
A thousand tons of sand is a mere drop in the ocean and will have little or no impact on either problem.

Beach sand on West shore will be almost immediately replaced by the sand in the estuary.  A cube metre of sand weighs approx 2 ton so 1000 ton will just about fill a space of 50 x 20 metres to a depth of 1 metre or the equivalent of a half decent size swimming pool!

Another silly spend by the Temple of Waste. ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 01, 2013, 12:35:52 pm
Did you take any of the prom?
As the fog lasted all afternoon, I was able to spend a good hour or two walking round Town, the Prom,Pier, Happy Valley, taking photos - I managed to get over 500 pics. Here's a couple of the Prom:
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Post by: DaveR on March 01, 2013, 12:40:48 pm
Few more:
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Post by: DaveR on March 01, 2013, 12:43:36 pm
On the other hand, the last sentence sounds promising about the shelters. Few things would improve the seafront at Llandudno more than replacing those shelters. I imagine that the Victorian ones there originally must've been replaced as they were rusted or past-it perhaps. Does anyone know the year? - probably in the 60s at some point. Is the shelter in the central reservation in Gloddaeth Avenue a lucky survivor of them? Or was that always there?

However, various people have talked about replacing the shelters since the late 80s (at least), so I don't know how much we can hope!
I agree, it would make a fantastic difference - here's a pic of one of the original Prom Shelters:
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Post by: Ian48 on March 01, 2013, 12:50:48 pm
Cheers Dave, that looks so much better. Such a shame they got rid of them. They look so much lighter and more open. It would be good to have something less blocky and more see-through like that again (if only to stop some of the nefarious activities that go on in the shelters - or at least used to when they had that opaque plastic glass)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 01, 2013, 01:05:01 pm
Yes, the new ones should have a light & delicate design with clear glass. I'd also like to see them have led lighting fitted, to both create an attractive night time feature and reduce anti-social behaviour in them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on March 01, 2013, 01:58:04 pm
That's a very good idea! I've often felt that as lovely as the prom is, in the dark away from the town side and the lights, the prom and the beach below quickly become very dark and unwelcoming. The shelters don't help as because they are so blocky and hidden it makes you think anyone could be hiding around there. With a bit more light on the subject, it might encourage a bit more late-evening strolling and make the beach less of a dark spot.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 01, 2013, 02:04:15 pm
etI think pochin built the shelters on the prom as a reward for allowing that brick mish mash by the Royal,as for the sand issue the only reason we are getting it is because of all the beach replenishing work being done in Colwyn.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on March 01, 2013, 05:53:59 pm
Thanks DaveR for putting the foggy photos on here. I've enjoyed looking at them. Have you put an album of them on Flickr?
I was wondering if I could choose a couple and buy the prints from you (Llandudno Emporium) like before?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: romanjohn on March 01, 2013, 08:29:16 pm
Great photos DaveR quite spooky. Well done hope it wasnt to cold.  romanjohn.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 03, 2013, 12:43:15 pm
In the Happy valley this morning very early with the grandkids,beautiful,daffs are about to spring into colour and the cablecar people where busy working on the building.Things have gone very quiet on the shop front but at least that means no closing down premises.Station and Augusta are moving well,flat-pack flats opposite the Hospice already have roof trusses on,so although things have gone deadly silent we can still be positive for the coming season.
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Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2013, 12:48:12 pm
In the Happy valley this morning very early with the grandkids,beautiful,daffs are about to spring into colour and the cablecar people where busy working on the building.Things have gone very quiet on the shop front but at least that means no closing down premises.Station and Augusta are moving well,flat-pack flats opposite the Hospice already have roof trusses on,so although things have gone deadly silent we can still be positive for the coming season.
I walked through Happy Valley as well this morning, cafe has reopened. Lovely crisp Spring morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2013, 12:50:05 pm
Thanks DaveR for putting the foggy photos on here. I've enjoyed looking at them. Have you put an album of them on Flickr?
I was wondering if I could choose a couple and buy the prints from you (Llandudno Emporium) like before?
Hiya H, I'm just in the middle of moving house, so am a little slower to respond to posts than normal. I will stick all the decent fog pics on Flickr (hopefully today) and you can take a look to see if there are are any you like maybe?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2013, 02:34:38 pm
Thanks DaveR for putting the foggy photos on here. I've enjoyed looking at them. Have you put an album of them on Flickr?
I was wondering if I could choose a couple and buy the prints from you (Llandudno Emporium) like before?
Hiya H, I'm just in the middle of moving house, so am a little slower to respond to posts than normal. I will stick all the decent fog pics on Flickr (hopefully today) and you can take a look to see if there are are any you like maybe?
I have put the best 48 fog pics up on Flickr here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157632901759603/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/sets/72157632901759603/)

 :)
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Post by: hollins on March 03, 2013, 06:27:52 pm
Thanks DaveR. I've sent you an email.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 03, 2013, 06:51:13 pm
Thanks DaveR. I've sent you an email.
...that I have just replied to.   :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on March 04, 2013, 09:08:57 pm
Via David Powell's twitter feed:

Daily Post Conwy ‏@DPConwyNews

Possible new museum planned for Llandudno on maritime heritage. No building earmarked for it yet. More in tomorrow's Daily Post.
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Post by: wrex on March 04, 2013, 09:26:05 pm
This would be nice,the town needs as many mueseums as it can,i know Barry Mortelock is supposed to be looking to re-house the Alice collection he bought.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2013, 09:41:16 am
As much as I love Llandudno and its history, I cant honestly say that I think that a misshapen piece of sandstone that was once the base of a obscure fountain on the Prom really deserves to be in a museum...

Plinth found in Llandudno could go in new maritime museum
Mar 5 2013
 
A PLINTH uncovered on a beach during environmental work could eventually go in a new maritime museum.

The sandstone object, thought to be the base of a statue, is on Llandudno North Shore near the pier and is due to be removed by a JCB on Friday.

It will be put into safe storage while its origins are investigated

History buffs who want to set up a Ships’ Timbers Maritime Museum in or near the town are hoping to include it among exhibits.


Gwynedd Archeological Trust believe that the Victorian relic is a 19th Century architectural stone.

A shore attendant had spotted it last August during environmental work near the top jetty on the beach.

Debbie Wareham, a trustee/director of the Ships’ Timbers Museum project, said: “From our initial exploratory work our interpretation is that the object is a stone plinth. We think it could have been part of a 19th Century structure that supported a statue that once stood at the site of the Cenotaph.

“This statue was washed away during the Great Storm of 1859, the same storm that sank the Royal Charter, and which badly damaged Llandudno’s first pier. We have kept an eye on the object across the autumn and winter months as the action of the tides cause the object to become more exposed to the elements at various times.

Because the object is of such interest we thought it should really be removed from the foreshore, so informed Conwy Harbour Master’s office about the find.”

Ms Wareham also contacted Gwynedd Archaeological Trust (GAT).

Roland Flook, of GAT, made a site visit to see the object.

He confirmed that it is probably an architectural stone from the 19th Century.

Ms Wareham said: “We would like to have the object on display in the (future) museum.”

As for the museum project itself, there are four trustees and directors who are in the early stages of developing the project. They do not as yet have a building.

Ms Wareham added: “We have just registered our project with Companies House as Ships’ Timbers Maritime Museum with guidance from Conwy Business Centre and Wales Co-operative. We will function as a Social Enterprise and Charity.”

Llandudno has a traditional museum on Gloddaeth Street.

Landowners Mostyn Estates own the part of the beach where the plinth was found.

Spokesman Edward Hiller said: “Nobody really knows what it is. It’s thought it’s an old statue base. I am really encouraged that people are interested in maritime heritage around the coast and particularly in Llandudno. We are happy to store it in one of our yards in the middle of town pending further progress.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/03/05/plinth-found-in-llandudno-could-go-in-new-maritime-museum-55578-32925120/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/03/05/plinth-found-in-llandudno-could-go-in-new-maritime-museum-55578-32925120/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on March 05, 2013, 10:22:12 am
It's just occurred to me now that I've read a bit more about this plinth and where it was found that it hasn't been recently discovered at all.

That sandstone plinth used to sit bu the entrance to the pier, near the first kiosk and large sign, on the sea side. If you go there, you'll see a round stone section in the wall, shaped like a drum, which has a modern piece of pole in it put there a few years ago to make it safer as there was no railing (it just looks like a bit of scaffolding pipe).

This sandstone plinth used to rest on there, I remember it clearly. When they fixed that bit of pipe, the workmen must have just pushed it over the ledge as I remember seeing it on the beach and thinking what a shame it was that they had just tipped it like that as I have thought it might be significant at the time.

In my innocence I thought it looked very, very similar to the sandstone column bases that they have in Llandudno Museum, which came from the Roman fort at Canovium (Caerhun) and half thought that they had put one by the pier as an antiquarian interest when they had been excavated in the 20s. Especially as it had been placed on a specific plinth by the pier. I must've been wrong though looking back. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2013, 10:42:21 am
You're right, Ian, I remember it myself now you mention it. In that case, surely it was just a decorative part of the original Pier wall built in  1884? Or did they incorporate the fountain plinth into the wall?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on March 05, 2013, 10:47:50 am
I think it was probably part of the wall now thinking about it, put there as a decorative stop. It had probably just weathered heavily due to it being a piece of sandstone in a very exposed position. Weren't parts of the pier pavilion built in a similar kind of stone? I seem to think they were, but might be wrong.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on March 05, 2013, 11:05:56 am
Isn't there a picture of that fountain in situ somewhere? I seem to recall having seen it at some point recently.

I've always wondered about the statue that was in one of the first ever images of Llandudno from about 1860. I think it was in a book called 'Llandudno as it was'. You can see visitors standing in the area of the present promenade with the buildings of North Parade in the background. The picture is taken from the direction of the beach (I would say somewhere near the Ted yr Ogo memorial) and in the background is a white stone figure on a plinth.

It would be interesting to know what happened to that. Llandudno didn't seem to go in for statuary in the same way as many other Victorian towns, bar the Victoria Fountain in the Happy Valley (no statues to the Mostyns for example).
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Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2013, 11:09:01 am
Yes, again, you're right. The surviving bases of the Pier Pavilion building visible from Happy Valley Road are of a similar design and stone.

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/138/330932204_c4641af1b4_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/330932204/)
Pillar Remnant - Pier Pavilion, Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/330932204/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2013, 11:15:28 am
That sandstone plinth used to sit bu the entrance to the pier, near the first kiosk and large sign, on the sea side. If you go there, you'll see a round stone section in the wall, shaped like a drum, which has a modern piece of pole in it put there a few years ago to make it safer as there was no railing (it just looks like a bit of scaffolding pipe).

This sandstone plinth used to rest on there, I remember it clearly. When they fixed that bit of pipe, the workmen must have just pushed it over the ledge as I remember seeing it on the beach and thinking what a shame it was that they had just tipped it like that as I have thought it might be significant at the time.
You're thinking of the round piece of wall visible at bottom left of this photo? That actually marks the end of Llandudno Pier Company property, so it would make sense that there would be a decorative stone stop there and it's just above where the stone was found on the beach.

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/141/327397961_4b8f2225c1_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/327397961/)
Grand Hotel &amp; Pier Entrance (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/327397961/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on March 05, 2013, 11:25:47 am
Yep, it's that one in the middle. The plinth stood on that round section between the two ball-topped iron posts, now joined by the straight pole. There was nothing there before, except the plinth. As I said I guess they thought it was a safety hazard as it was easy to lean over, and instead of putting the plinth somewhere safe, they just pushed it over the ledge.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on March 05, 2013, 11:32:55 am
I say 'in the middle', but that pertains to being in the middle of the two old poles. Obviously, I mean the bottom left hand corner of the photo. I'm not always the clearest...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 05, 2013, 01:26:29 pm
Is this the plinth that you are referring to?
Taken last summer during a GOES exploration of the underneath area of the pier
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on March 05, 2013, 01:51:38 pm
The very same.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2013, 04:14:00 pm
That's the one. The hole in the middle is where the pole for the railing used to fit in.
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Post by: Ian48 on March 05, 2013, 04:46:52 pm
I don't remember a pole though, that's why I said that I think they moved it - for safety purposes, so they could fit a pole in its place. I am sure I remember sitting directly on it, perhaps not though...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on March 05, 2013, 08:30:01 pm
There was a fountain  or something similar on the prom that can be seen in earlier postcards of "splash corner" circa 1910
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2013, 09:37:15 pm
I don't remember a pole though, that's why I said that I think they moved it - for safety purposes, so they could fit a pole in its place. I am sure I remember sitting directly on it, perhaps not though...
Maybe the hole was to originally attach a lamp post or similar?

I've had a look through my photo archives and found this photo that shows the stone in position fairly clearly:
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Post by: Ian48 on March 05, 2013, 10:59:56 pm
Well done! Seems there was a top half that is now missing as it looks higher than it did when I remember it. Perhaps the hole was part of the joint holding the two sections together? It looks like it was some sort of decorative stop stone to mark the entrance to the pier.

Whatever it was I am not sure it merits being a prize exhibit at a maritime museum. Perhaps it should just be returned to where it was meant to be?

I feel almost bad that between us we may have disappointed a few folks who had got quite excited about it. But maybe they don't read the forum...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2013, 09:37:24 am
During and after the GOES walk which a few forum members were on, including myself, the subject was debated on the forum and one or two pics provided by forum members were suggested as the original position of the stone.
This Maritime Museum sounds a good idea,but where? Also if the stone gets moved and " put away" somewhere it will probably be lost behind other things and never see the light of day again !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 06, 2013, 09:48:57 pm
I do hope CCBC come along to the extravaganza committee and ask would you like a little help,as we see them pumping thousands into events in Colwyn and Conwy,i know nobody in Llandudno is stupid enought to start another event,but who is starting all these new events in Colwyn Bay and Conwy,is it their town council who are pro-active in all these new events or CCBC doing it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on March 06, 2013, 10:19:27 pm
I do hope CCBC come along to the extravaganza committee and ask would you like a little help,as we see them pumping thousands into events in Colwyn and Conwy,i know nobody in Llandudno is stupid enought to start another event,but who is starting all these new events in Colwyn Bay and Conwy,is it their town council who are pro-active in all these new events or CCBC doing it.

Not sure what specific event you are referring to but the 40s festival in the Bay is being organised by the Chamber of Trade as are many of the events in Conwy led by the excellent Toby Tunstall.  Perhaps if Llandudno had a business orientated organisation then they too could organise events but as many Llandudno businesses are 'nationals' and have managers who have little or no interest in extra work on top of the duties to which they are paid it is unlikely to happen.  The most obvious candidates would be the Hoteliers Association but we all know what they do!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 07, 2013, 07:07:18 am
It's always been a battle to get local businesses involved with the Extravaganza. in the late '80s, early '90s the manager of M & S became involved and lent the store's upper floor as a meeting place. Likewise, the Victoria centre and a couple of other big names in town became involved, albeit on the periphery.  Several stores, however, reported that takings dropped during the Extravaganza, so they were fairly reluctant to take part. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2013, 08:42:57 am
I do hope CCBC come along to the extravaganza committee and ask would you like a little help,as we see them pumping thousands into events in Colwyn and Conwy,i know nobody in Llandudno is stupid enought to start another event,but who is starting all these new events in Colwyn Bay and Conwy,is it their town council who are pro-active in all these new events or CCBC doing it.

Not sure what specific event you are referring to but the 40s festival in the Bay is being organised by the Chamber of Trade as are many of the events in Conwy led by the excellent Toby Tunstall.  Perhaps if Llandudno had a business orientated organisation then they too could organise events but as many Llandudno businesses are 'nationals' and have managers who have little or no interest in extra work on top of the duties to which they are paid it is unlikely to happen.  The most obvious candidates would be the Hoteliers Association but we all know what they do!
I imagine Wrex is referring to Prom Day in Colwyn Bay - it's always been a mystery to me how CCBC are so keen on this event and pump a lot of money into it, yet practically ignore the Extravaganza? I visit both and the Extravaganza is ten times the event Prom Day ever is.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on March 07, 2013, 08:55:33 am
My apologies if he is referring to the Prom 'two' Days but he states 'new' events further in his text!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 07, 2013, 12:38:53 pm
Sorry Jack,what i mean is this new boat show in Conwy,the 40;s weekend in the Bay,don;t get me wrong these are great for those towns and good for CCBC for pushing thousands of pounds into them,THE Wales rally great,but then they hardly accnowledge the extravaganza so the weeks of my year i put into it really goes unoticed by everyone and it really will need new blood next year or it will vanish.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 07, 2013, 03:52:38 pm
 $angry$ Nice to see the mound being removed on the west shore and of course all us gulible people are supposed to think they are doing us a favor by putting it on the town beach,once again don;t get me wrong im glad the beach is getting a bit of sand but how long do you think the Georgian house opposite the mound would have put up with their view being obstructed,they had to move it,all the houses opposite pay big rates and where going mad about this ever growing sandune.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 07, 2013, 05:15:49 pm
I do hope CCBC come along to the extravaganza committee and ask would you like a little help,as we see them pumping thousands into events in Colwyn and Conwy,i know nobody in Llandudno is stupid enought to start another event,but who is starting all these new events in Colwyn Bay and Conwy,is it their town council who are pro-active in all these new events or CCBC doing it.

Not sure what specific event you are referring to but the 40s festival in the Bay is being organised by the Chamber of Trade as are many of the events in Conwy led by the excellent Toby Tunstall.  Perhaps if Llandudno had a business orientated organisation then they too could organise events but as many Llandudno businesses are 'nationals' and have managers who have little or no interest in extra work on top of the duties to which they are paid it is unlikely to happen.  The most obvious candidates would be the Hoteliers Association but we all know what they do!

Jack you need to run a Hotel or B and B to see how much effort is involved just to keep your head above water. There’s very little time or energy left to do anything else. It’s not the place or remit of Llandudno Hospitality to get involved in organising events such as you mentioned, that's what the Council, Lions, Round Table and possibly the Chamber of Commerce are for. As to what you refer to as the Hoteliers Association knowing what they do; perhaps you out to come along and see for yourself exactly how much effort is put in on our behalf of our industry, up to and including Governmental level, by the Committee of Llandudno Hospitality.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 07, 2013, 05:16:31 pm
I passed the Town Hall lunchtime and noticed on the agenda for tomorrow evening's Finance meeting is an agenda item on IPads for Councillors.  ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 07, 2013, 05:52:57 pm
How bloody stupid!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on March 07, 2013, 06:02:56 pm





Jack you need to run a Hotel or B and B to see how much effort is involved just to keep your head above water. There’s very little time or energy left to do anything else. It’s not the place or remit of Llandudno Hospitality to get involved in organising events such as you mentioned, that's what the Council, Lions, Round Table and possibly the Chamber of Commerce are for. As to what you refer to as the Hoteliers Association knowing what they do; perhaps you out to come along and see for yourself exactly how much effort is put in on our behalf of our industry, up to and including Governmental level, by the Committee of Llandudno Hospitality.

Sorry BlongB, I clearly have misunderstood the remit of the Hospitality Association. I presumed (wrongly as it happens) that attracting visitors to the town so that they stay in the member's hotels would have been what the Association would do. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2013, 07:43:08 pm
I passed the Town Hall lunchtime and noticed on the agenda for tomorrow evening's Finance meeting is an agenda item on IPads for Councillors.  ££$
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns...  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 07, 2013, 08:53:11 pm
I would like to see how the Town Councillors can reasonably justify needing them to do their "work" for the community. >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 09, 2013, 06:50:12 am
Yorkie how can you think this is a waste,these things take pictures they can have no excuse now for ignoring the problems,all 30 councillors can walk around Llandudno taking pictures of our eyesores take them back to the chamber and they can all disscuss the pictures infront of them,of course they will need lessons on how to use the damn things.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 09, 2013, 08:34:55 am
 _))* _))* _))* How True !
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Post by: Cambrian on March 09, 2013, 09:42:32 am
Others can correct me if I am wrong but assuming these items cost £2k each that's £60k for all 30 to have them. I don't know how long they last or what the maintenance would be but Yorkie may have a point.
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Post by: Ian on March 09, 2013, 11:00:54 am
They cost far less - about £399 for a basic iPad 4, so a lot cheaper than laptops, which I believe are routinely issued to some councillors. They probably think the iPad is good for the cloud features which, are, I have to say, quite nifty. However, apart from basic word processing, notes and calendar, I suspect the iPad is - if anything - over specc'ed for their needs.  To work to their strengths, however, they'll each need a router in their houses or they'll need to go for the 3G model - which adds significantly to the cost.  I suspect Yorkie's comment about the training they'd need will be a deciding factor.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: viv on March 09, 2013, 11:33:59 am
Colwyn Bay Town Council work with CCBC to put on the Prom Day and Access all Eirias and put in money so that CCBC can raise further match funding.e.g. we put in £20K for 3 years for Access all Eirias. Colwyn Business Netwrok with the Chamber of Trade are putting on the 40s weekend and we have also given them a Grant to help that.  There has been no suggestion of Councillors having laptops i pads or anything. Most of them already have their own!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2013, 03:45:10 pm
Colwyn Bay Town Council work with CCBC to put on the Prom Day and Access all Eirias and put in money so that CCBC can raise further match funding.e.g. we put in £20K for 3 years for Access all Eirias. Colwyn Business Netwrok with the Chamber of Trade are putting on the 40s weekend and we have also given them a Grant to help that.  There has been no suggestion of Councillors having laptops i pads or anything. Most of them already have their own!
I think Colwyn Council operates in a far more businesslike manner than Llandudno's.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2013, 03:49:29 pm
They cost far less - about £399 for a basic iPad 4, so a lot cheaper than laptops, which I believe are routinely issued to some councillors. They probably think the iPad is good for the cloud features which, are, I have to say, quite nifty. However, apart from basic word processing, notes and calendar, I suspect the iPad is - if anything - over specc'ed for their needs.  To work to their strengths, however, they'll each need a router in their houses or they'll need to go for the 3G model - which adds significantly to the cost.  I suspect Yorkie's comment about the training they'd need will be a deciding factor.
In the last couple of years, Conwy Councillors have all been issued with Laptops, Blackberrys and iPads....how much did all this cost and is it all still been used?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on March 09, 2013, 04:40:12 pm
The majority of councillors use their own equipment because the council supplied kit doesn't allow them to use social networks, install apps etc etc  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 09, 2013, 05:01:55 pm
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Conwy Councillors have all been issued with Laptops, Blackberrys and iPads

Can't see why they'd get both...
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Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2013, 05:17:53 pm
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Conwy Councillors have all been issued with Laptops, Blackberrys and iPads

Can't see why they'd get both...
They were issued with Blackberrys last year (a pointless exercise) and now its been decided that iPads will be more useful.  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on March 09, 2013, 05:47:29 pm
Looking at the various websites, it seems Bay of Colwyn (three communities) has 24 town councillors, Conwy Town Council has 15 and Llandudno 30.  Conwy CBC cllrs for the same areas are: 13, 7 and 10. So it looks as if Llandudno has around 10 town councillors too many!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 09, 2013, 06:17:19 pm
Looking at the various websites, it seems Bay of Colwyn (three communities) has 24 town councillors, Conwy Town Council has 15 and Llandudno 30.  Conwy CBC cllrs for the same areas are: 13, 7 and 10. So it looks as if Llandudno has around 10 town councillors too many!

THIRTY TOO MANY IN MY BOOK!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Sara on March 11, 2013, 10:33:35 am
Just received a Parking Charge Notice from Smart Parking for staying too long in Asda car park. Except I didn't, I went in at 12.17 for fuel and then went back later to do my shopping where they have me leaving at 16.47. They have obviously chosen to ignore the fact that i left after getting fuel and then re-entered later in the afternoon. Do they think that if they do this to enough people that might have gone in twice in one day that they will maybe scare one or two into paying up? Well they are not getting a penny from me. I would guess if I query it they will not have photo's of my car leaving the first time or entering the second time!  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 11, 2013, 12:02:39 pm
This is a Civil matter and you did not enter into any contract with them. Jut TOTALLY IGNORE ANY CORRESPONDENCE YOU RECEIVE.

See previous discussion n this subject. :D
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Post by: Sara on March 11, 2013, 12:12:46 pm
Thanks Yorkie. Have seen the previous discussion on this. Just venting my annoyance about it all. I'm sure many people go into Asda car park more than once a day. They are onto a nice little earner if they disregard the middle photo's where you leave and then re-enter later.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 11, 2013, 12:44:22 pm
Ignoring the notice is certainly one option, Sara, but you could also consider informing the NWWN so they can feature your story on the front page of this Thursday’s edition and thus inform other shoppers that they too can ignore the notice in the future.
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Post by: Ian on March 11, 2013, 01:43:34 pm
It's also worth considering the Consumers' Association's advice on this: if you enter a car park with clearly indicated and defined conditions you are deemed to have accepted them.  If they then take you to court, they can also recover expenses.
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Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2013, 01:48:36 pm
I would inform them clearly of the circumstances and request they cancel the fine.
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Post by: Sara on March 11, 2013, 02:25:18 pm
Ian, I did not overstay the time limit though as they are stating, so I didn't break any conditions. I went in at 12.17  to get fuel and drove out straight after. At 15.00 i was picking my grandson up from school and then drove back to Asda around 15.45- 16.00 and left there at 16.47. They are stating I was there from 12.17 until 16.47, over 4 1/2 hours.
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Post by: Ian on March 11, 2013, 03:17:07 pm
I agree with Dave.  Explain clearly and concisely what happened. The onus is then on them to prove otherwise.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 11, 2013, 03:56:48 pm
Ian, I did not overstay the time limit though as they are stating, so I didn't break any conditions. I went in at 12.17  to get fuel and drove out straight after. At 15.00 i was picking my grandson up from school and then drove back to Asda around 15.45- 16.00 and left there at 16.47. They are stating I was there from 12.17 until 16.47, over 4 1/2 hours.

It will obviously help if you are still in possession of your receipts as they will have the date and time  recorded.  So hang on to them!   ;D
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Post by: Sara on March 11, 2013, 04:25:48 pm
All sorted. It's all to do with the position of the cameras. When you drive in there is a camera before the garage that snaps your numberplate. You can then park up do your shopping etc. When you go to drive out the exit camera is before the garage. So in my case I got snapped going in for the garage but there is no camera for when you exit the garage. Then when i went back later I was snapped entering again and then snapped exiting the car park. Customer services said it had happened before. Anyway a manager is getting the ticket cancelled for me.
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Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2013, 05:14:01 pm
A large pine tree has blown down across the outside seating area in Haulfre Gardens Cafe.

Photo on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/noggerules/status/311134670500814848/photo/1
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 11, 2013, 08:10:27 pm
Yes a very strong and bitter cold wind today as I found out taking these, I was almost blown over by the Grand!

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i331/penrhynpigeons/DSCN0342_zps1a307b7f.jpg)

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Post by: hollins on March 11, 2013, 08:24:36 pm
Stunning photos ME.
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Post by: Blongb on March 11, 2013, 08:41:44 pm
All the sand which was put on the North Shore earlier this week; up to two steps from the top; has been washed away and we now have eleven to twelve steps down to the beach exposed. Marvellous the power of the sea. Now if it would only do the same thing to those bl**dy stones............
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 12, 2013, 10:01:23 am
Stunning photos ME.

Thanks Hollins, my poor little pocket Nikon got covered in sea spray! All clean now!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on March 12, 2013, 02:10:18 pm
Just received a Parking Charge Notice from Smart Parking for staying too long in Asda car park. Except I didn't, I went in at 12.17 for fuel and then went back later to do my shopping where they have me leaving at 16.47. They have obviously chosen to ignore the fact that i left after getting fuel and then re-entered later in the afternoon. Do they think that if they do this to enough people that might have gone in twice in one day that they will maybe scare one or two into paying up? Well they are not getting a penny from me. I would guess if I query it they will not have photo's of my car leaving the first time or entering the second time!  $angry$

You might want to read this - http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4488003 (http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4488003)

I wouldn't bother appealing because I can tell you now that regardless of the evidence you can produce your appeal would be rejected, all Smart Parking are concerned about is scamming money off you.  Fortunately their charges are pretty much legally unenforceable so don't pay but do make sure that you tell all your friends and family about how Asda tried to extort money from you simply because you chose shop there and don't forget to tell the manager of Asda that from now on you'll be doing all your shopping in Tesco  ;).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on March 12, 2013, 02:25:15 pm
It's also worth considering the Consumers' Association's advice on this: if you enter a car park with clearly indicated and defined conditions you are deemed to have accepted them.  If they then take you to court, they can also recover expenses.

They can claim a "reasonable pre-estimate of losses incurred".  As Asda's carpark is free then the lost incurred as a result of a motorist overstaying their welcome must be £0.00.  The "charge" Smart Parking quote is unforceable, as per section 5.1 (on page 40) of the Office Of Fair Trading guidance on unfair contract terms -  http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/reports/unfair_contract_terms/oft311.pdf (http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/reports/unfair_contract_terms/oft311.pdf)

This might explain why, according to figures obtained using a Freedom Of Information request, last year 1,800,000 parking charge notices were issued of which a grand total of 49 ended up in the Small Claims Court!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 12, 2013, 03:58:27 pm
  Fortunately their charges are pretty much legally unenforceable so don't pay but do make sure that you tell all your friends and family about how Asda tried to extort money from you simply because you chose shop there and don't forget to tell the manager of Asda that from now on you'll be doing all your shopping in Tesco  ;).

But bear in mind that Tesco also have restricted parking time that is "enforced" by another money grabbing enterprise!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on March 13, 2013, 09:11:56 pm
Do any of the local Tesco's have cowboys operating on their car parks?  I know about a year back my missus had to work in Tesco Abergele for a day and about a week later got a letter pointing out she'd stayed more than the allotted time and not to do it again but there was no attempt to extort £80 or whatever out of her.

Personally I tend to do my shopping at Morrisons these days, partly because it's cheap but mainly because I work in the Bay so it's convenient.  And there's no risk of being scammed as a reward for shopping there, you just have to put up with the minor irritation of those barriers instead.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 14, 2013, 01:24:06 pm
Just checked my Asda bill as usual to see who was cheaper and Morrisons would have cost me just short of £10.00 more on my weekly shop :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on March 14, 2013, 02:14:18 pm
Just checked my Asda bill as usual to see who was cheaper and Morrisons would have cost me just short of £10.00 more on my weekly shop :o

How did you check this, not Asda Price Checker by any chance  :roll:.

And guess what, surpirse, surprise in today's Weekly News there's a story about Asda's cowboys attempting to extort £40 from a pensioner who committed the heinous act of shopping in Asda in Llandudno  &shake&.

Unfortunately the article is seriously let down by numerous references to a the man in question receiving a "fine".  SMART Parking (ironic name) cannot issue fines, no private company can issue a fine.  What they send out are little more than begging letters, albeit begging letters designed with the intention of misleading people into believing that they have some sort of legal standing and unfortunately Judith Phillips of the NWWN has fallen hook, line and sinker for the scam as well as the chap who recieved the fake "fine" in the first place  :(.

Still at least it's negative publicity of a sort for Asda and maybe if enough of these stories emerge in the future they might find a more ethical method of controlling the use of their carpark than by showing the complete disregard and lack of respect to their customers that they are showing at present.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 15, 2013, 08:56:52 am
Asda price guarantee-- I check my bill each week and some weeks I don't get a coupon, other times I have had as much as £7.00 off next week's bill. It's worth doing for the few minutes that it takes. Around Christmas you also got an extra £5 coupon if you spent over a certain amount.
Don't forget :roll: where I was born !!!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 15, 2013, 09:13:53 am
I concur - and thanks, N;  you've just reminded me to check yesterday's receipt, and we've got a voucher for £2.10.  We got a few £5.00 ones over Xmas and now Tesco is doing something similar, though I haven't yet figured out precisely how it works.
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Post by: FatAndy on March 15, 2013, 09:32:15 am
I concur - and thanks, N;  you've just reminded me to check yesterday's receipt, and we've got a voucher for £2.10.  We got a few £5.00 ones over Xmas and now Tesco is doing something similar, though I haven't yet figured out precisely how it works.

Those £5.00 vouchers from Tesco are usually only valid until the end of the following week so if you've got any left over from Christmas I'd check the dates before trying to use them.  Their current is offer is that is if you spend over £20 between 14th and 17th March you get a £5 voucher that you can use if you spend over £40 between 18th and 24th March.

http://www.tesco.com/groceries/zones/default.aspx?name=offer (http://www.tesco.com/groceries/zones/default.aspx?name=offer)

Morrisons current offer is if you spend over £35 for three consecutive weeks you get £10 off in week 4.  This started last week so it's too late to join in now, unless anyone wants to make me an offer I can't refuse for my Week 1 voucher  8).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2013, 01:20:56 pm
I see that large metal fences have been placed at two points outside Broadway Boulevard, presumably to keep people away from potential falling debris. The condition of the building (former Grand Theatre) has been causing concern for some time.
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Post by: wrex on March 18, 2013, 03:32:12 pm
Apparently it was closed down last week by the elf and safty  guys,its ok removing all the glass but it did act as a safety barrier now of course it lands straight on their customers heads,its just penny pinching,letting the place wrot.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2013, 04:25:08 pm
There is a lot of plywood being carried inside today - are they really going to re-roof the glass canopy with plywood?!

The silly thing was that 80% of the glass canopy was fine, but it all got ripped out instead of repairs being made to the broken panels. I believe the quote to reglaze it all was approx £20k.  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2013, 08:38:41 am
There is a lot of plywood being carried inside today - are they really going to re-roof the glass canopy with plywood?!

The silly thing was that 80% of the glass canopy was fine, but it all got ripped out instead of repairs being made to the broken panels. I believe the quote to reglaze it all was approx £20k.  :o

Can they do that? I seem to remember some hoo-ha when a shop in town did the same.
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 19, 2013, 09:42:35 am
What was occuring with the main drains at midnight on monday
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Post by: Cat Stevens on March 19, 2013, 09:46:39 am
More photos of drain maintanance
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Post by: DaveR on March 19, 2013, 10:23:55 am
They were still hard at it this morning at 7.30am when I passed by.
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Post by: mull on March 19, 2013, 10:58:49 am
Have they opened a new curry house ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 19, 2013, 11:08:55 am
Have they opened a new curry house ?
Rumours that the drain cleaning is related to Fester having a very large meal on Sunday are completely untrue.  :-X
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 19, 2013, 12:31:22 pm
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 19, 2013, 03:06:13 pm
There is a lot of plywood being carried inside today - are they really going to re-roof the glass canopy with plywood?!

The silly thing was that 80% of the glass canopy was fine, but it all got ripped out instead of repairs being made to the broken panels. I believe the quote to reglaze it all was approx £20k.  :o
The plywood has now been painted black and used to build a wall outside the Boulevard, partioning off some of the area under the canopy. Looks terrible!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 19, 2013, 03:27:54 pm
They were still hard at it this morning at 7.30am when I passed by.

Still there when we drove past earlier.
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Post by: dwsi on March 19, 2013, 06:56:35 pm
I wonder if the North shore sand has gone into the sewers
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Post by: TheMedz on March 19, 2013, 07:05:12 pm
Probably totally unrelated but the Welsh Water station just above Black Gate on the Orme has been the centre of quite a lot activity from worried looking staff today.  First time I've seen them have all the water storage covers up. (There's a joke about them "looking into it" just waiting to come out but I've resisted the temptation) Also a large number of drain cleaning wagons going up and down the Orme all day. Could be related to the fact that we are coming up to the end of the financial year and budgets needing to be spent I suppose
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 19, 2013, 09:24:41 pm
I wonder if the North shore sand has gone into the sewers

Funny you should say that but when I was on the promenade earlier I am sure most of the sand that used to be between the wooden jetty and the lifeboat slipway has suddenly disappeared.  :(

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Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2013, 06:02:14 pm
The new look Broadway Boulevard nightclub:  &shake&
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 20, 2013, 06:33:54 pm
It looks better than the seafront monstrosity in Colwyn Bay!   WWW
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Post by: dwsi on March 20, 2013, 08:00:09 pm
Another candidate for the eyesores section?
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Post by: Nemesis on March 21, 2013, 08:29:26 am
Passed this yesterday-- looks ripe for graffiti-- blackboard surface?-- only need the chalk !
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Post by: Fester on March 22, 2013, 10:45:07 pm
On this day last year, Mrs Fester and I had a picnic in the early evening, sitting on the grass looking across to Anglesey from the Gt Orme.  That was after working all day, on a sunny pier, busy with early season visitors.
How different the weather is this year!

Tonight, from my vantage point on the Gt Orme, I could see that it didn't seem to be snowing too heavily down in Llandudno, but it was really coming down up our way.
So, Mrs Fester and I set off to survey the weather, just as the light was fading around 6.30pm.
The pictures below show Mrs Fester practising her golf swing, outside Mike's Golf Course...(near the 7th tee I think)
Then there is a view from Anglesea Road, down to a gloomy West Shore.
Followed by a view across the Gt Orme slopes.
Finally, there is me, stand at the foot of Killen's Hill, near the tram tracks.
Not exactly 'Spring like' weather, I'm sure you'll agree.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 22, 2013, 11:40:04 pm
Yes, unbelievable! Spring arrived on Thursday and it is not fit for purpose! So tomorrow I'm sending it back for a full refund or a working replacement, otherwise I'm off to BBC Watchdog or ITV's Ferret!  :twoface:
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Post by: wrex on March 23, 2013, 07:00:07 am
Off to London for the mighty reds Wembley adventure,so DaveR get out there with your camera and get me some snaps of the spring weather.
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Post by: Ian on March 23, 2013, 07:01:07 am
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Spring arrived on Thursday and it is not fit for purpose! So tomorrow I'm sending it back for a full refund or a working replacement, otherwise I'm off to BBC Watchdog or ITV's Ferret!


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Post by: DaveR on March 23, 2013, 03:19:07 pm
Off to London for the mighty reds Wembley adventure,so DaveR get out there with your camera and get me some snaps of the spring weather.
I'm away at the moment, so have appointed Fester as forum photographer.  ;D
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Post by: Fester on March 23, 2013, 04:20:27 pm
In my new capacity of interim Forum photographer, (ahem)... I once again set off to investigate the state of the snow in Llandudno.
Below, you can see the archetypal view of the bay, and despite being dismal, there is very little snow down in town.
However, the 2nd photo is taken on the path between Rofft Place and Haulfre Gardens, (in the woods), you can see a lot of snow has fallen on the Gt Orme.
Thirdly, the Orme goats decided to get in on the act.
Lastly, a view looking up my garden, which is melting now so the birds can get fed, but was fully covered in snow earlier today.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on March 23, 2013, 04:42:22 pm
The new look Broadway Boulevard nightclub:  &shake&
What a bloody state
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Post by: DaveR on March 23, 2013, 04:49:07 pm
Good work!  $good$
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Post by: snowcap on March 24, 2013, 11:35:29 pm
the road outside your house down to town must have been dodge with all that snow fes.
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Post by: snowcap on March 25, 2013, 12:09:13 am
went to man city training ground to watch my grandson play for Wigan under nine academy, they were playing on the field with not a sign of snow anywere, it was freezing, but they played on for over an hour. oh for the love of football.
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Post by: TheMedz on March 25, 2013, 08:59:31 am
Saturday morning brought with it the usual snowy chaos as cars tried to get up the hill and failed.

About 8:00 am
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Post by: TheMedz on March 25, 2013, 09:03:53 am
about 9:30 am. The two cars by the traffic lights are just left stuck waiting for the gritter to come.
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Post by: Yorkie on March 25, 2013, 08:08:05 pm
WLLRN?  Bloody cold.  Jut looked at my weather ap and it says Temperature "37 feels like 26" .  I also checked Banjul, Gambia where my Daughter is for a few months and it says "83 feels like 92".  I bet she's laughing her socks off at our predicament!   L0L
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Post by: Hugo on March 27, 2013, 04:47:26 pm
Off to London for the mighty reds Wembley adventure,so DaveR get out there with your camera and get me some snaps of the spring weather.
I'm away at the moment, so have appointed Fester as forum photographer.  ;D

Has the new Forum photographer nipped over the Great Orme and taken photos of the snowdrift on the Marine Drive?      ;D       
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Post by: Nemesis on March 27, 2013, 05:12:28 pm
Shouldn't push that one Hugo !! ;D :o
Our forum photographer was at his place of work this afternoon in a highly p*****d off mood having waited for a delivery in vain. He was frozen stiff  :(.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 27, 2013, 05:17:26 pm
There's nothing better than a brisk walk  over the Orme in this weather to get you warm!       $cool$
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Post by: Fester on March 27, 2013, 10:45:11 pm
Shouldn't push that one Hugo !! ;D :o
Our forum photographer was at his place of work this afternoon in a highly p*****d off mood having waited for a delivery in vain. He was frozen stiff  :(.

Yeah Nemesis, sorry about that.... 3 hours in sub zero temperatures for no reason can leave one a bit tetchy!
However, I was told today by a guy that had just completed his trek around the Orme that it is impassable by vehicle.

An enormous snowdrift, completely obliterating the Marine Drive, to the west of the Cafe just before you begin the descent to Llys Helig Drive.   Now I see why the gates were locked at the Tollhouse in Happy Valley.

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Post by: Fester on March 27, 2013, 10:50:03 pm
Ahhh, sorry all.... I see that my last article has been covered in some depth on the Gt Orme thread. :-}}}
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Post by: Nemesis on March 28, 2013, 10:49:40 am
Shouldn't push that one Hugo !! ;D :o
Our forum photographer was at his place of work this afternoon in a highly p*****d off mood having waited for a delivery in vain. He was frozen stiff  :(.

Yeah Nemesis, sorry about that.... 3 hours in sub zero temperatures for no reason can leave one a bit tetchy!
However, I was told today by a guy that had just completed his trek around the Orme that it is impassable by vehicle.

An enormous snowdrift, completely obliterating the Marine Drive, to the west of the Cafe just before you begin the descent to Llys Helig Drive.   Now I see why the gates were locked at the Tollhouse in Happy Valley.

No probs Fester-- I really felt for you-- you looked frozzen daft as we say in Yorks. Hope you got thawed out ! ;D
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Post by: Fester on March 28, 2013, 07:20:25 pm
Thanks for you kind words Nem...

I was about to advertise the fact (via a sign) that my prices were FROZEN for the 3rd consecutive year... but I fear that my customers will be heartily sick of that word!
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Post by: Nemesis on March 29, 2013, 11:11:26 am
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Post by: DaveR on March 29, 2013, 12:08:07 pm
Well, it's certainly a beautiful day in Llandudno today. Blazing sunshine. About time too!  $good$
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Post by: born2run on March 29, 2013, 04:48:26 pm
Well, it's certainly a beautiful day in Llandudno today. Blazing sunshine. About time too!  $good$

Absolutely  8)

 My Son and I had a lovely afternoon of Golf up the Orme at Mike's (Orme Golf) lovely course, my play wasn't up to much but the views more than made up for it. Was great to meet Mike as well and his Son in law, and thanks for the shortcut home! Not only did my legs need it but the view was wonderful as well   $good$
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Post by: born2run on March 29, 2013, 06:30:07 pm
Another thing I noticed on the way back was Llandudno war museum. Is it any good? I never knew it was there, they keep it pretty well hidden. Was also surprised they charge to go in, and not cheap either. Is it a private museum, I take it then, rather than a governement one?
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Post by: Michael on March 29, 2013, 07:31:04 pm
Hello Born2run.Meeting you twice in a day. Yes, The Llandudno War Museum is privately owned by a Father and Son team who work very,very hard on it. As you say they are at a disadvantage by not being in a prime position, but they spend an absolute load of time, energy and hard cash on publicising it in any way possible.
  Yes, its very well worth a visit. Mike
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Post by: Nemesis on March 30, 2013, 11:52:21 am
I took a very difficult to please friend there last year and he was thrilled to bits with it. I also enjoyed it very much, it was amazing how many things were in there.
An excellent attraction--and not expensive.
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Post by: DaveR on March 30, 2013, 08:05:51 pm
Looks like a busyish day on the Pier, in spite of the cold wind.
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Post by: Fester on March 30, 2013, 10:55:28 pm
In my opinion that was not a busy day for an Easter Saturday.   It seemed very quiet indeed,
The Pier had long periods of being semi-deserted, and the promenade hardly had any people on it all day.
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Post by: wrex on March 31, 2013, 05:27:40 pm
Nice round of golf this afternoon up the Orme,Ormegolf was having a day off so it was in the capable hands of his son-law i think,then we saw Mrs Fester walking up the orme as we where stuck in traffic,im very glad to see the cablecar lads have had 2 good days and they are still running now.Town did;nt look to busy but the car parks where full so it must have been.
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Post by: born2run on March 31, 2013, 06:40:59 pm
Nice round of golf this afternoon up the Orme,Ormegolf was having a day off so it was in the capable hands of his son-law i think,then we saw Mrs Fester walking up the orme as we where stuck in traffic,im very glad to see the cablecar lads have had 2 good days and they are still running now.Town did;nt look to busy but the car parks where full so it must have been.

Also had a game today - and played much better! I'm getting quite addicted to the game already looking forward to my next game  8)
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Post by: Michael on March 31, 2013, 08:08:07 pm
two members of the forum on the course at more or less the same time. Thanks to both of you.
   But Wrex I don't know who told you (wink wink) but I wasn't having a day off. Jez offered to help over the weekend so of course I said yes, by all means. But there really wasn't enough work for two of us so I slunk off to one of the local cafes!!! So, I look forward to when we may meet face to face Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on March 31, 2013, 11:48:17 pm
Another forum tournament this year? As long as it's not in work time I'll be there and Fester has promised me the drinks are on him in the King's head ( $good$)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 04, 2013, 03:24:56 pm
Looks like Anwyl are going to make a shed full of money off Dawnus for useing pen morfa,if im right i think it is something to do with a new outlet on the beach.Arriva buses are now in their new home with Alpine on builders st.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 05, 2013, 11:04:02 am
Oscar had a story on thr extravaganza,its vanished,very strange,anyway what has happened to the sand on the town beach,just driven past the ski jump on colwyn prom and the beach looks great,will some one explain to me how or why Colwyn is getting thousands of tons of sand and our town beach is full of pebbles.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on April 05, 2013, 11:35:08 am
Colwyn Bay new beach is part of the new sea defence. The promenade is very quickly diteriating and the sea could undermine the railway and buildings on the prom. In recent weeks the sea has covered the road in certain places between the pier and Rhos as it does in Old Colwyn so something had to be done quickly, hopefully the sand will keep the sea away( until its washed back into the sea) hopefully not lol , but will also create a pleasant area instead of high rocks lining the promenade like we have at Penrhryn bay. I agree sand would have been lovely at Llandudno instead of pebbles, have the pebbles always been there or were they brought in to create a defence. It would be worth a try to get more sand near the pier  if it will stay there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 05, 2013, 08:55:41 pm
 I don't know if anybody noticed but the pipeline which brings the sand in from the dredger to the shore was assembled on Llandudno's prom and then towed around the Little Orme.
 Maybe raising a few hopes in Llandudno?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 05, 2013, 09:56:42 pm
I don't know if anybody noticed but the pipeline which brings the sand in from the dredger to the shore was assembled on Llandudno's prom and then towed around the Little Orme.
 Maybe raising a few hopes in Llandudno?

All I can say Mike is that I hope that they haven't taken the sand from the Constable Bank or otherwise it won't be the deep sand that Llandudno finds itself in.     
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 06, 2013, 08:35:22 am
They shouldn't have, Hugo; Constable is only about 4 - 5 miles off Rhyl, extending Westward, and the Dredgers are working much further North and in deeper water, from what I can see.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 06, 2013, 11:06:13 am
I can see the boat coming in every day to unload its cargo of sand and as I'm typing I can see it unloading the sand.   The boat comes in from the North West of Colwyn Bay and does go out way past the existing wind farms but they are supposedly, according to planning on the Rhyl flats.
I suppose these consultants know what they are doing and are getting the sand from areas that won't affect the coastline but then again CCBC employed consultants for the sea defence on the West Shore and look what happened.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 06, 2013, 12:39:19 pm
That's true...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 06, 2013, 01:49:56 pm
I'm just reading two books, one called "Shipwrecks of North Wales" by Ivor Wynne Jones and the other is "Colwyn Bay its origin and Growth" by Norman Tucker.    Both are very good reads and describe the shifting sands of Liverpool Bay and how the bay has closed harbour after harbour, to the confusion of generations of mariners.
Aber Cerrig Gwynion  was in use until 1687 ( by Rhos on Sea Golf Course)  and that's the nearest one to Llandudno.   The point I'm trying to make is that nature can do things on its own but if man interferes and doesn't get it spot on then we will have problems.
As I was growing up in Llandudno I was always told that the Constable Bank was protecting Llandudno from a serious deluge but I'm not sure how far out at sea the bank is.
That boat has disappeared out to sea after dropping the sand off and even with binoculars I can't see it now so it must be quite far away
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 06, 2013, 02:30:55 pm
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As I was growing up in Llandudno I was always told that the Constable Bank was protecting Llandudno from a serious deluge but I'm not sure how far out at sea the bank is.

It's about five miles North. Stretches across the bay from Rhyl, so it is  bar of sorts.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2013, 03:13:14 pm
Nice to see the town so busy today. Amazing what a bit of sunshine can do!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 06, 2013, 05:04:26 pm
I did my bit for the local economy this afternoon,trip on the cable cars,very busy,then ice cream and drinks at Parissella;s all looking very busy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2013, 08:14:11 pm
I see the Cable Car is now £8 for a Return Ticket. Seems quite high but I suppose maintenance costs must be high also.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 07, 2013, 08:17:19 pm
Not to mention insurance and downtime.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2013, 06:05:51 pm
Lifeboat has just been called out.

EDIT: it's apparently on an exercise with a new Lifeboat.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2013, 08:47:51 pm
He tried to pull a fast one...and got caught out.  &shake&

Businessman loses appeal over uPVC windows in Llandudno
Apr 10 2013

A BUSINESSMAN has lost his appeal to keep double glazed windows in his block of flats - creating “uncertainty” for scores of other owners who fear they may have to replace their own UPVC frames.

A planning inspector has dismissed the appeal by Mr Jay Lakhani of L&P Enterprises Ltd against enforcement action by Conwy Council about windows in Balmoral Apartments in Trinity Square, Llandudno. He has until October to replace them with "white painted timber windows".

In a report out on Wednesday, the Inspector Iwan Lloyd says the “highly machined and much thicker frame of the UPVC is evident” and it is a “detracting element to the appearance of the building and the conservation area”.

However, Aberconwy AM Janet Finch-Saunders yesterday said the dismissal of the appeal will create “uncertainty” for many people with modern UPVC windows.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/04/10/businessman-loses-appeal-over-upvc-windows-in-llandudno-55578-33151218/ (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2013/04/10/businessman-loses-appeal-over-upvc-windows-in-llandudno-55578-33151218/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cordyline on April 10, 2013, 10:44:57 pm
Is there a map or plan of LLandudno that shows the conservation area

Is Llewelyn House, 12 Llewelyn Avenue, Llandudno in the conservation area ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2013, 09:45:53 am
Is there a map or plan of LLandudno that shows the conservation area

Is Llewelyn House, 12 Llewelyn Avenue, Llandudno in the conservation area ?
Here's a map and yes, it is.

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/528/Llandudno.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/528/Llandudno.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 11, 2013, 11:08:58 am
Llandudno is dismal and drizzly right now, and worse to come over the weekend.  (Gale force winds and rain)

Today will consist mainly of Jeremy Kyle, Homes under the Hammer and then I am looking forward to Loose Women at 12.30.
Apparently Jane McDonald's new dance and exercise DVD is being featured!



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 11, 2013, 11:44:31 am
Looks like Anwyl are going to make a shed full of money off Dawnus for useing pen morfa,if im right i think it is something to do with a new outlet on the beach.Arriva buses are now in their new home with Alpine on builders st.

What's all that about Wrex as I've heard nothing about the Penmorfa site for ages?          I was wondering about the planning application and whether there is a date fixed for the expiry of the application.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 11, 2013, 11:49:43 am
I drove up the Great Orme on Monday afternoon and as I was driving up Ty Gwyn Road I saw a Policeman getting two scruffy looking people out from near the cave that is fenced off.
It was opposite that place where I had a run in with one of Llandudno's well known undesirables some time ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 11, 2013, 12:01:47 pm
I drove up the Great Orme on Monday afternoon and as I was driving up Ty Gwyn Road I saw a Policeman getting two scruffy looking people out from near the cave that is fenced off.
It was opposite that place where I had a run in with one of Llandudno's well known undesirables some time ago.

It was none other than Mr R.Wyn Davis, yet again.... plus another reprobate that I had never seen before.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cordyline on April 11, 2013, 12:05:13 pm
Thanks Dave
The basement flat at that address is currently for sale

Any purchaser will be running the risk of having to replace the plastic doors and windows then ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 11, 2013, 12:37:18 pm
Here's a map and yes, it is.

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/528/Llandudno.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/528/Llandudno.pdf)

There is an unbelievable number of listed buildings shown on that map.

It is amazing how nobody thought of also including part of the Gogarth Abbey Hotel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 11, 2013, 12:45:10 pm
Have i missed it on here ,but i can;t remember this air show being discussed,Mostyn estates apparently.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 11, 2013, 12:47:44 pm
Thanks Dave
The basement flat at that address is currently for sale

Any purchaser will be running the risk of having to replace the plastic doors and windows then ?

Quite probably, a friend has just lost her sale due to additions etc without permission.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 11, 2013, 12:51:44 pm
I drove up the Great Orme on Monday afternoon and as I was driving up Ty Gwyn Road I saw a Policeman getting two scruffy looking people out from near the cave that is fenced off.
It was opposite that place where I had a run in with one of Llandudno's well known undesirables some time ago.

It was none other than Mr R.Wyn Davis, yet again.... plus another reprobate that I had never seen before.

A couple of them were lurking in the car park, behind some flats on Saturday night near us. Trouble was , they were so p****d that they were making a heck of a racket. No chance of a quiet kip there !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2013, 01:11:21 pm
Thanks Dave
The basement flat at that address is currently for sale

Any purchaser will be running the risk of having to replace the plastic doors and windows then ?
It's possible. I'm hoping that CCBC will be fair with those people that have had upvc windows installed for a number of years and allow them to keep them until replacement is necessary.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 11, 2013, 02:11:46 pm
I drove up the Great Orme on Monday afternoon and as I was driving up Ty Gwyn Road I saw a Policeman getting two scruffy looking people out from near the cave that is fenced off.
It was opposite that place where I had a run in with one of Llandudno's well known undesirables some time ago.

It was none other than Mr R.Wyn Davis, yet again.... plus another reprobate that I had never seen before.

Thanks Fester,  I thought his face was familiar and they both looked the worse for wear.   It seems that  Davis is his own worst enemy and appears beyond any help.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 11, 2013, 02:54:50 pm
Is there an Airrshow planned for May,not seen owt but have heard its been penciled on a airshow forum somewhere.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 11, 2013, 02:56:41 pm
I drove up the Great Orme on Monday afternoon and as I was driving up Ty Gwyn Road I saw a Policeman getting two scruffy looking people out from near the cave that is fenced off.
It was opposite that place where I had a run in with one of Llandudno's well known undesirables some time ago.

It was none other than Mr R.Wyn Davis, yet again.... plus another reprobate that I had never seen before.

Thanks Fester,  I thought his face was familiar and they both looked the worse for wear.   It seems that  Davis is his own worst enemy and appears beyond any help.
He can be very pleasant when sober, and very nasty when drunk. It's sad to see.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 13, 2013, 06:53:16 pm
I saw this large house under construction on Llys Helig Drive when we walked around the Orme this morning. Looks very nice, I see Anwyl are building it.  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 14, 2013, 12:18:53 pm
I don't know if anyone else has had the phenomenon, but there is an optical illusion.  If you look at the picture for a while the roofs of the building appear flat, and what are the sloping roofs, appear to be vertical and surrounding the flat roofs.   Most peculiar.   :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 14, 2013, 12:47:03 pm
mmm see what you mean--but only the ones nearest the photographer !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 17, 2013, 03:41:09 pm
As you know i will rip CCBC to pieces,im not happy with the so called sandless town beach and as for the empty Arena in venue Cymru ,don;t get me started but i will give the parks dept some praise,this year they seem to have the grass cutting down to perfection,please keep it up.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 17, 2013, 04:09:11 pm
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they seem to have the grass cutting down to perfection,please keep it up


Or down, perhaps?

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 17, 2013, 04:59:03 pm
The grass hasn't had a chance to start growing yet!     :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 17, 2013, 09:29:34 pm
As you know i will rip CCBC to pieces,im not happy with the so called sandless town beach and as for the empty Arena in venue Cymru ,don;t get me started but i will give the parks dept some praise,this year they seem to have the grass cutting down to perfection,please keep it up.
There was a gardener carefully cutting the edges of all the Prom lawns yesterday, looked very tidy after he had finished.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 17, 2013, 09:35:12 pm
Of course, there had to be somebody silly enough to be out in the bad weather, and it turned out to be me.  :laugh:

The sand at West Shore was blowing down Abbey Road as far as the junction with Church Walks!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on April 18, 2013, 04:14:32 pm
Is there an Airrshow planned for May,not seen owt but have heard its been penciled on a airshow forum somewhere.

There's a front page story in the NWWN today about the airshow.  It's planned for the Spring Bank Holiday weekend and will feature the Spitfire & Hurricance from the Battle Of Britain Memorial Flight, the Falcons parachute team and air-sea rescue display featuring an RAF Sea King and the RNLI.  It seems a bit late to be announcing it as I'd guess a lot of people who might have been interested will already have booked to go elsewhere but no doubt it will pull in a lot of daytrippers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on April 18, 2013, 04:27:05 pm
another story in the weekly about the windows debate , one hotel top of town no windows,other hotel bottom of town windows boarded up umm  :rage: barmy planners making folk spend thouands to change their windows ,i know if i visited here i would rather see the clean pvc ones , please don,t rush to reply and say i,m wrong,  also about how good mostyn est,s are putting an air show on big deal they robbed the land anyway .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 18, 2013, 05:35:06 pm
A MAN'S HOME IS NOT HIS CASTLE ANY MORE AS I SEE IT!

I am wondering if there is a further avenue of appeal under the CHARTER OF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION

Article 17
Right to property
1. Everyone has the right to own, use, dispose of and bequeath his or her lawfully acquired
possessions. No one may be deprived of his or her possessions, except in the public interest and in
the cases and under the conditions provided for by law, subject to fair compensation being paid in good time for their loss. The use of property may be regulated by law in so far as is necessary for the general interest.

Article 44
Right to petition
Any citizen of the Union and any natural or legal person residing or having its registered office in a
Member State has the right to petition the European Parliament.

Article 47
Right to an effective remedy and to a fair trial
Everyone whose rights and freedoms guaranteed by the law of the Union are violated has the right to an effective remedy before a tribunal in compliance with the conditions laid down in this Article.
Everyone is entitled to a fair and public hearing within a reasonable time by an independent and
impartial tribunal previously established by law. Everyone shall have the possibility of being defended and represented.  Legal aid shall be made available to those who lack sufficient resources in so far as such aid is necessary to ensure effective access to justice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 19, 2013, 10:04:47 am
Can someone please post me a link to the website for 'Llandudno Town Council'?

I have unsuccessfully tried googling it.

It must be just me !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 19, 2013, 11:37:43 am
Towncouncil@llandudno.gov.uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 19, 2013, 11:52:16 am
Thank you, Yorkie, but that ain't a website.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 19, 2013, 12:07:00 pm
www.llandudno.gov.uk (http://www.llandudno.gov.uk)

However, there is no website there at the moment. I believe there is some sort of problem/dispute re it. I have recommended to a Councillor that they employ View Creative to design/maintain a new website.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 19, 2013, 12:16:20 pm
Thank you, DaveR.

It is interesting to note that former website address no longer appears in a google search.

Meanwhile, I wonder how local residents manage to communicate electronically with the Town Hall and also what happens to all the e-mails being sent to the e-mail address kindly provided by Yorkie.

I haven't noticed an announcement anywhere in the NWWN or Pioneer.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 19, 2013, 12:32:22 pm
Sorry about that Bri, brain bit slow to warm up today!  I'm just picking up a Dutch hosting company so maybe they are getting their IT problems sorted out at long last. :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 19, 2013, 12:45:59 pm
Thank you, DaveR.

It is interesting to note that former website address no longer appears in a google search.

Meanwhile, I wonder how local residents manage to communicate electronically with the Town Hall and also what happens to all the e-mails being sent to the e-mail address kindly provided by Yorkie.

I haven't noticed an announcement anywhere in the NWWN or Pioneer.
It is a bit poor, to put it mildly. The site will have disappeared automatically from the Google listing as there is no longer a site to view.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 19, 2013, 04:13:29 pm
Reply re website received following my enquiry to Town Clerk:

"Sadly, the website has recently gone down and we are unable to technically retrieve at present.
Following discussion with members, companies are currently quoting for a new site and Council plans to have something up and running asap.
Our apologies.
With regards"


I know that the Council were having problems with their site that was administered by a local company, but if anyone knows of a "RELIABLE" company they can recommend I'm sure the Clerk would be pleased to hear from them.   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 19, 2013, 05:16:38 pm
DaveR already has, Yorkie.

I have recommended to a Councillor that they employ View Creative to design/maintain a new website.

BTW, what e-mail address, Yorkie, did you use to contact the Town Clerk?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 19, 2013, 05:49:36 pm
Towncouncil@llandudno.gov.uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 19, 2013, 06:59:54 pm
I know that the Council were having problems with their site that was administered by a local company, but if anyone knows of a "RELIABLE" company they can recommend I'm sure the Clerk would be pleased to hear from them.   :D
"I have recommended to a Councillor that they employ View Creative to design/maintain a new website."  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 21, 2013, 04:07:50 pm
This afternoon we had a run out and started with a trip round Marine Drive on the Gt. Orme.   The road was in a disgusting state with beer cans, bottles, fast food wrappings, and loads of other rubbish littering the whole drive.  On the trip down to West Shore from the R & BT the road was also littered with scree and rocks.

It's pretty obvious that the road hasn't been swept or cleared of rubbish for ages.   What a lovely welcome for locals and tourists alike!   :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 21, 2013, 04:48:23 pm
Fester was telling me on Friday that a load of builders rubbish, including old doors etc, had been dumped over the wall on Marine Drive and it was very visible from the Pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 21, 2013, 06:55:20 pm
Fester pointed the rubbish out to us earlier.

All the white blobs look like goats from his kiosk.

One question on an unrelated subject.

Why weren't the donkeys out this weekend?

The tide was out during the afternoons and there were plenty of small children about.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 21, 2013, 11:42:57 pm
Yes... the fly tipping on the Gt Orme, is a disgrace.
A load of white worktops, MDF doors etc, on the steep cliffside facing the pier.
These things will never reach the sea (who would want them to?) ... and it will be a devil of a job to recover this rubbish, not to mention dangerous and costly.

Also, further round at Pigeons cove (I think its called), there are old mattresses and suchlike on the beach.

Those who did this belong on the SCUM thread, not this one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 22, 2013, 07:19:31 am
The favourite dumping ground for Cowboy Builders who can't be bothered (or pay) for the Council's tipping facilities.  A few years ago there was one particular local builder who seemed to think it was his divine right to tip off the Orme and would even do it in broad daylight!  He got taken to task eventually.  Most of the rubbish dumped can be traced back, if the council can be bothered to carry out an investigation, and the perpetrators brought to book. 

On the other hand it could be regarded as a piece of "Sculture" by one of the modern day artists!  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on April 22, 2013, 05:48:30 pm

One question on an unrelated subject.

Why weren't the donkeys out this weekend?

The tide was out during the afternoons and there were plenty of small children about.


I can't see any sign of the donkeys in their usual field at the top of Wyddfyd road so I'm assuming they are not yet back from their winter holidays in Cheshire.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2013, 10:41:29 pm
Just had a lovely walk along the Promenade, a very calm night with all the lights of the Bay twinkling - beautiful.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 23, 2013, 08:27:37 am

One question on an unrelated subject.

Why weren't the donkeys out this weekend?

The tide was out during the afternoons and there were plenty of small children about.


I can't see any sign of the donkeys in their usual field at the top of Wyddfyd road so I'm assuming they are not yet back from their winter holidays in Cheshire.

None in the 'donkey field' near the hospital either.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 02:25:53 pm
A reminder that several roads in central Llandudno are closed 7pm-7am tonight for resurfacing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on April 23, 2013, 05:02:46 pm
A reminder that several roads in central Llandudno are closed 7pm-7am tonight for resurfacing.

Will the forums resident photojournalist be taking photos?  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2013, 06:43:47 pm
A reminder that several roads in central Llandudno are closed 7pm-7am tonight for resurfacing.

Will the forums resident photojournalist be taking photos?  :D
No, I'm still mourning the loss of the Fat Cat.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2013, 10:51:40 am
Don't need photos ! The noise was enough. I pity the poor people staying in the hotels on South Parade !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 10:55:03 am
I was thinking that myself when I saw the large sections of road that had the top layer of tarmac removed for resurfacing. A very noisy process. Is it better to do it at night and avoid the disruption of road closures during the day?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2013, 10:59:12 am
Goodness knows, but I could hear it easily at 1am-- it kept me awake, as did the diverted traffic, but the job needed doing and we should benefit from it, but I would be somewhat annoyed if I had coughed up for a quiet break and landed in the middle of that.
I only hope they do a good job, as the roundabout at the bottom of Arvon Avenue has had to be redone twice recently, as the newly laid patch all came up again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 05:03:37 pm
I see that another metal bracing frame has been fitted to the doorway at the corner of Broadway Boulevard that has the large crack running up the building above it. That's one serious structural problem.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 24, 2013, 08:17:22 pm
Took Archie for a drink of petrol yesterday and both my OH and I commented that the place looked somewhat unsafe !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2013, 10:08:52 pm
Certainly a lot of activity around town this evening with the resurfacing work, it must be costing a fortune.  I noticed that the proof reader for the temporary signs must be on holiday:  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2013, 08:34:38 am
Yes another 'noisy night'. I just pity the hoteliers near it---- I can just imagine the complaints that they will be getting !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 25, 2013, 10:42:52 am
I noticed that the proof reader for the temporary signs must be on holiday:  :laugh:

Be thankful, DaveR, they didn't attempt to make it bilingual.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2013, 11:22:47 am
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 28, 2013, 03:21:35 pm
I went into Llandudno earlier intending to call into the Tourist Information Office in the Library Building.

Guess what?
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Post by: norman08 on April 28, 2013, 03:52:41 pm
what else should we expect loads of visitors looking at the cars on the prom ,city folks having a w/end away, a few asking where the nearest toilets were why they cant put them porto loos they could locate them by the bandstand [central]. :rage:



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Post by: Michael on April 28, 2013, 07:53:48 pm
   The tourist info in Llandudno being closed on a Sunday.

   Well firstly, Sunday would probably be the maximum day for visitors having questions. After all the bulk of them arrive on Saturday so Sunday is the day they start to look around.

    I have always been told (by various semi official people) that the reason for this is that the TIC is situated in the Library building. The library is shut, therefore the whole building is shut.

   What I fail to understand is if that is so, how come the TIC was open for the very extended period of time that the library was refurbished?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 28, 2013, 09:13:11 pm
Fortunately, Mike, I remembered there is a tourist information leaflet stand just inside the back doors of Wetherspoons and sure enough I found what I was looking for. 
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2013, 09:22:47 pm
Councillor threatened to take pub's licence if they didn't let her in after hours
26 Apr 2013 07:49


A POLITICIAN who tried to get into a pub out of hours by saying she was a town councillor brought her public office into disrepute, a watchdog has found.

But when staff said they didn’t want to lose their licence and refused her, she sent out abusive e-mails – including one to First Minister Carwyn Jones – the Public Services Ombudsman found in an investigation.

 Publican Gareth Davies, of The Town House in Llandudno, made a complaint about the actions of Llandudno town councillor Angie O’Grady – and Ombudsman Peter Tyndall investigated and upheld the complaint. He has sent his report to Conwy Council’s standards committee to consider on Tuesday.

 The dispute came when Cllr O’Grady went on with a friend to the Town House on Mostyn Street at 11.55pm after an evening playing bingo

 The Ombudsman said that publican Gareth Davies claims that she tried to gain entry after hours “by saying she was a town councillor”.

 The Ombudsman said Mr Davies claimed that when she was refused she threatened to have the licence removed as she claimed to sit on the licensing committee. She also “became abusive and made threats concerning his licence and his business”, Mr Davies alleged. She is said to have called Gareth Davies “a little bully”, and a “pathetic little man”.

 She then “circulated unfounded written allegations about his behaviour to other town councillors and senior elected members which were investigated by Conwy County Council”.

 Recipients were Cllr Phillip Evans, Cllr Jobi Hold and First Minister Carwyn Jones AM. In her email, she wrote there had been an “antagonised attempt to force me from the Town House pub”. It was claimed she added: “The guy on the door who I later found out to be the owner/publican got quite agitated with me and said he did not want to lose his licence. I explained that was fine.”

 Cllr O’Grady disputed the facts of the case and said someone grabbed her by the coat. But the Ombudsman found her actions outside the pub on November 27 2011, and in the subsequent e-mails, breached councillors’ code of conduct.

 He wrote: “On balance, I think it more likely than not that Cllr O’Grady did try to use her position to gain entry to Mr Davies’ premises, thereby attempting to gain an advantage for herself.”

 The Ombudsman also found it “imprudent” that she sent e-mails to other members at 1.28am after she had admittedly been drinking alcohol.

 He added: “It seems that if the main purpose of her e-mail was to seek emotional support, as she has suggested, then her family and friends would have been better placed to provide it, not the county council Cabinet Member or the First Minister.” Cllr O’Grady had used the words “assault” and “intimidation” but that was inappropriate.

 Yesterday publican Mr Davies said: “I am satisfied with the result. She abused her authority. It was the threats that were made that we would lose our licence which were unacceptable.”

Cllr O’Grady, who was re-elected in May 2012, was unavailable to comment.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-town-councillor-brought-public-3156346#.UXwNaKmE3TI.twitter (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-town-councillor-brought-public-3156346#.UXwNaKmE3TI.twitter)
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2013, 09:24:59 pm
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In her email, she wrote there had been an “antagonised attempt to force me from the Town House pub”.

Personally, there would need to be an 'antagonised attempt' to get me into the Town House...  :laugh:  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 28, 2013, 10:02:32 pm
 _))*. Shocking behaviour from one who should know better!
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Post by: Fester on April 28, 2013, 11:27:54 pm
....and my contempt for politicians intensifies even more , (if you can call a tin-pot Councillor a politician)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 02, 2013, 03:43:08 pm
in the nwwn today ,cllr lyons saying how tired and un down the town looks , please tell me HOW long has she been on the gravy train,bless her the town has looked run down for years  :rage:    _))*
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Post by: DaveR on May 02, 2013, 05:25:47 pm
Someone who doesn't love Llandudno. Graffiti on the former Ethel Austin shop:
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Post by: DaveR on May 02, 2013, 08:23:21 pm
in the nwwn today ,cllr lyons saying how tired and un down the town looks , please tell me HOW long has she been on the gravy train,bless her the town has looked run down for years  :rage:    _))*
That's true but her points are very valid. Freeing up more car parking spaces, fixing the large sections of cracked/broken paving and installing more flower beds are all good ideas..but let's see some action instead of just endless talking in committees.

Incidentally, speaking of paving, I see that the paving stones along Mostyn Street are getting a gradual power washing, done early in the morning. They look a lot cleaner but it a does emphasis how many are cracked.  :(
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Post by: norman08 on May 02, 2013, 09:27:19 pm
yes dave her points are valid ,but she has been a councillor for years so its a bit late for her to spout off now
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Post by: born2run on May 02, 2013, 10:12:44 pm
Someone who doesn't love Llandudno. Graffiti on the former Ethel Austin shop:

Call me a skeptic but I have doubts whether that was done by the real Margaret Thatcher
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Post by: Ian on May 03, 2013, 07:28:08 am
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yes dave her points are valid ,but she has been a councillor for years so its a bit late for her to spout off now

She's been talking about it for years. When she started the Extravaganza she was also trying to get the council to mount a concerted attempt to win the Wales in Bloom awards by increasing the numbers of flower beds.
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Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2013, 06:43:24 pm
CCBC's latest initiative to prevent tourism has been implemented - dumping stones all over the beach...or are they actually removing them?!
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Post by: Blongb on May 03, 2013, 11:40:10 pm
CCBC's latest initiative to prevent tourism has been implemented - dumping stones all over the beach...or are they actually removing them?!
If you look at the jetty in the background of your photo Dave you can see a clear sandy path leading to it. That is where the piles of stones have come from. It will help to get visitors onto the motor boat at low tide.
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Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2013, 08:48:26 am
I was sort of hoping they were clearing all the rocks in this area to create a larger area of sandy beach...
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2013, 03:11:31 pm
Massive crowds at the Extravaganza this afternoon. A pleasure to chat to several Forum members, as well.  $good$
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Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 03:22:26 pm
Oh dear that looks hideous. I was going to attend tomorrow (Bank Holiday Monday) but if that's what one can expect I won't bother.

I think I'll head the other direction and visit the Welsh Mountain Zoo at Colwyn Bay instead.

BUFF
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 05, 2013, 04:30:05 pm
Buff, have a look, I'm not over keen on large crowds, but myself and Erindoors had a great time today, no problem moving about or parking and you simply have to see the excellent Mr Alexander's travelling show (on Bog Island) a true entertainer!  D)
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Post by: Nemesis on May 05, 2013, 05:12:17 pm
He means North Western Gardens Buff. Bog Island is the local name--so called because of the underground toilets situated there. :o
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2013, 05:20:56 pm
Mr. Alexander is excellent, a true Showman of the old school. His shows are at 11, 1 and 3. Well worth seeing.  $good$

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7197/7145549983_e2a2de858a_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/7145549983/)
Mr. Alexander! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/7145549983/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Jack on May 05, 2013, 05:22:47 pm
Parking has been at a premium today! 

Never remember seeing cars parked on grass verges such as Gloddaeth Avenue, St Mary's Road and outside the day centre on Trinity Avenue before!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 05, 2013, 05:30:06 pm
Keep watching the same cars drive round and round looking for a space. They were even parked on corners round here !
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Post by: Bellringer on May 05, 2013, 05:34:42 pm
Great pictures David, as always.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 05, 2013, 05:41:02 pm
We parked by the Honda Garage at about 9.45am, plenty of spaces then, naturally much harder later! We drove to the Ball and Boyd sale room in the middle of the afternoon to pick up a statue, again no problem  D)
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2013, 05:58:26 pm
Today was the busiest I've ever seen it at the Extravaganza.Tomorrow will be interesting, how will no Prom Day in Colwyn Bay affect it?
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2013, 06:03:37 pm
Things got so busy I was forced to head for higher ground, balanced on top of the raised flower bed outside Cafe Culture.  :laugh:
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Post by: Buff Orpington on May 05, 2013, 06:04:58 pm
"Bog Island"

 :laugh:
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Post by: cygnusx-1 on May 05, 2013, 08:09:54 pm
The parking has been a bit illegal in places..........up round the Little Orme parking on a road which has double solid lines up the middle..........no sign of any tickets but I suppose doing 41mph towards The Links on Conway Road with a camera takes much less effort.

No replies saying there was no were else to park...... please!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 05, 2013, 08:26:55 pm
That parking by double white lines amazed me too when I went past!
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Post by: Fester on May 06, 2013, 01:28:30 am
That parking by double white lines amazed me too when I went past!

I only avoid double YELLOW lines when I park!
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Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2013, 10:56:12 am
Someone who doesn't love Llandudno. Graffiti on the former Ethel Austin shop:
Pleased to see that this graffiti was removed before the Extravganza started.
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Post by: Bellringer on May 07, 2013, 12:41:52 pm
Nice to see the town all reasonably tidy this morning. Disappointing though that a whole pile of rubbish which had been put over the wall off Mostyn Street into the grounds of Holy Trinity Church, had not been moved.   
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Post by: Bellringer on May 07, 2013, 02:31:13 pm
Just to clarify the post above. The rubbish has obviously been put there by those with 'rides and stalls' nearby over the weekend and now the Church is expected to clear it and maybe stand any cost to do so.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 07, 2013, 02:42:32 pm
A shame to spoil such a good event with such thoughtlessness!
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Post by: DaveR on May 07, 2013, 03:07:52 pm
I'm sure the Extravaganza Committee would be happy to have the rubbish removed, it's certainly not fair to expect Holy Trinity to pay.
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Post by: wrex on May 07, 2013, 09:04:30 pm
Sorry ive just read this,i will chech to see what mess has been left tomorrow and remove any offending rubbisn,sorry to cause any more greif Bellringer,please leave it too us.
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Post by: Bellringer on May 07, 2013, 09:16:57 pm
Thanks Wrex - its just inside the gates onto Mostyn Street.
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Post by: wrex on May 08, 2013, 07:07:58 am
It might not be till tonight,but it will be sorted today,once again apologies for their behavure.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 08, 2013, 04:57:39 pm
I was passing about 4.15pm and Eddie Hall was removing several bags of rubbish from just inside the entrance off Mostyn Street.

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Post by: Bellringer on May 08, 2013, 07:14:22 pm
Thanks Bri - I was there a little later and everywhere looked very tidy - more so because the grass had been cut this afternoon too, so the grounds looked very 'pristine'.

Wrex - Many thanks for seeing to this matter so quickly.
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Post by: wrex on May 08, 2013, 07:26:14 pm
Im just sorry i allowed the situations to happen in the first place,if you don;t watch them 24
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Post by: Nemesis on May 09, 2013, 08:58:23 am
I was passing about 4.15pm and Eddie Hall was removing several bags of rubbish from just inside the entrance off Mostyn Street.

One of Wrex's compatriots was searching for Eddie's phone number when I met her in town at 2pm ish.  Now there's prompt service for you.
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Post by: DaveR on May 09, 2013, 09:25:59 am
A big well done to the Extravaganza committee for sorting out the problem so quickly.  $good$
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Post by: Mikethewatch on May 09, 2013, 09:31:50 am
If only CCBC were as efficient!
Street light I reported being out on dangerous junction still not fixed after 3 weeks
Well done Wrex, the extravaganza was once again brilliantly organised and did the town proud $walesflag$
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Post by: norman08 on May 09, 2013, 05:22:45 pm
iv,e reported a street light thats been out for 6 months  a few times still not lit ,  they,ve tarmaced the pavement by the hospital ,but be careful at the junction there [ by the shop ] 2 big pot holes.   :rage:
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Post by: wrex on May 09, 2013, 09:57:04 pm
Thanks Mike.Bellringer,walked around church grounds tonite,looks ok now,gave it a little brush,hope its ok now.
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Post by: Ajllandudno on May 10, 2013, 12:31:02 am
I'd like to think if I park my car on the grass down gloddeth avenue I wouldn't receive a ticket,
Can't use the extravaganza as a excuse, if llandudno can't accommodate the extra cars that come then they should think twice about host the extravaganza.

On the subject of the extravaganza, the feedback I got after my mini break was ALL negative..
I can't say I have been a fan of the whole thing since I was a little boy, I'm all for the transport festival side & the small rides for children but I find it brings a whole host of problems & trouble.
Two young gentlemen had been attacked & required sitches at the hospital.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 10, 2013, 01:47:08 am
Why do people choose to live in a tourist town, which was BUILT specifically for that purpose, and then complain when it is busy with tourists?

It is so annoying when people go out of their way to look for negatives about the Extravaganza, and in AJ's case you were not even in town when it was on!  :o

If you don't like it, ignore it. but don't criticise it unless it directly affects YOU.

Two lads needed stitches did they?  I would imagine that is LESS than a normal Saturday night then. How many were involved in punch-ups in Colwyn Bay?   What about Rhyl?
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Post by: born2run on May 10, 2013, 07:28:45 am
Why do people choose to live in a tourist town, which was BUILT specifically for that purpose, and then complain when it is busy with tourists?

It is so annoying when people go out of their way to look for negatives about the Extravaganza, and in AJ's case you were not even in town when it was on!  :o

If you don't like it, ignore it. but don't criticise it unless it directly affects YOU.

Two lads needed stitches did they?  I would imagine that is LESS than a normal Saturday night then. How many were involved in punch-ups in Colwyn Bay?   What about Rhyl?

I know the two lads, to be fair it's said they were attacked by people 'working' at the extravaganza on the stalls/rides. So he has got a point there. Myself I love the extravaganza, though I wish the rides and games were cheaper, with a couple of kids it's easy to spend 50 or 60 quid inside a few hours. But I do love how town is so busy and the atmosphere, personally I would like to see town like that every weekend, isn't that the purpose of the town? Being a holiday destination and all? Seems to me like AJ wants the town to fail at its very purpose, which is ridiculous.
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Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2013, 08:04:53 am
I do love how town is so busy and the atmosphere, personally I would like to see town like that every weekend, isn't that the purpose of the town? Being a holiday destination and all?
Agreed. Many of the town's traders have been struggling this year and the Extravaganza gave them a much needed boost in takings.

I was in town for several hours on each of the three days, I saw one shoplifter being detained outside HSBC by Police, but that was it for trouble. Not bad when you consider up to 100,000 people were in the town over the 3 days.
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Post by: Ian on May 10, 2013, 08:36:28 am
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On the subject of the extravaganza, the feedback I got after my mini break was ALL negative..

Well, folk do love to complain but the real question for everyone is does the Extravaganza make a difference?

Anywhere selling food benefits enormously during the weekend, that's for sure, as do many of the hotels and boarding houses and many shops selling things people just need that weekend also do well. Those places pay rates - often substantially - and those rates go towards maintaining the look and feel of the area which, when all is said and done, is a holiday destination.  So in the purely financial sense, the Extravaganza probably makes it that bit easier for many of the businesses to survive.

The timing of the event isn't an accident either. It was first held on the Mayday holiday to give the town a pre-season boost and, in that sense, I believe it also succeeds. Actually, since the event was largely the idea of the then Tory councillor, Margaret Lyons, I have a sneaking suspicion her motive was at least partly to put a Labour-inspired holiday to good Tory use, but that's now irrelevant.  ;D

What the event does, however, is to create a buzz in and around town, and it's a buzz which is sorely needed at a time when there's so much fiscal doom and gloom about. It certainly gives a positive impression of the town to visitors, and these may return at some point in the future, so that's another plus point. In fact, apart from the near-impossibility of moving or parking throughout that weekend, there are few downsides to what has become quite an event. And it is only one weekend in fifty two.

But the hidden value of the event - one which most never see - is the culture, the ethos of the incredible band of volunteers that take on the organisation of the event. These are the folk who start planning next year's event shortly after this one ends, who meet regularly during the winter, give endlessly of their time and expertise and then arrive at the event, only to be harangued, abused, verbally assaulted and dropped on during the first morning of the event by all manner of people holding them accountable for the positioning of the rides, steam organs, steam engines, barricades, and road closures, parade times and just about anything which they don't like and which they think are the responsibility of the event's organisers. 

Most people just turn up and never give a second thought to the issues surrounding its organisation - and that's as it should be - but we shouldn't forget the work of those folk.  And if we really hate the event, then we can all stay away and leave the visitors to have a wonderful time.
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Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2013, 08:47:41 am
Very well said, Ian.  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2013, 08:51:36 am
Llandudno could be getting its sandy beach back
9 May 2013 14:46 By Judith Phillips

Conwy Council is working on a way to remove the rocks from the resort's North Shore and restore the old 'kiddies' corner'

Hopes that a permanent solution can be found to the problem of a popular beach’s lost sand have been raised.

In recent years sand on Llandudno’s North Shore has been covered by rocks and stones, meaning the area once known as Kiddies’ Corner is no longer a prime spot for sandcastle building.

Earlier this year, Conwy County Council transported thousands of tonnes of sand from the West Shore to try to replenish the beach, but according to pleasure boat operator John Storer this has only been a partial success.

“If you simply dump large amounts of sand, especially unsuitable sand of the fine, windblown type cleared from West Shore, on top of the accumulated rocks and stones it’s the equivalent of trying build the brick walls of a house first, and then the foundations later.

“The area must be cleared of stones first, and then the existing sand beneath them will be uncovered,” he said.

Mr Storer, who operates pleasure boat trips from the North Shore jetty, says a small trial carried out by his company has revealed that the importation of sand isn’t necessary.

“Removal of the rocks,  and riddling the beach material, leaves a nice area of sand for people to enjoy.

“If sufficient very large rocks were imported to form a groyne to the north west and parallel to the far jetty this would suffice to prevent the migration of rocks and stones from the foot of the Orme and would see the return of the traditional children’s corner,” he suggested.

Cllr Mike Priestley, Conwy Council’s cabinet member for highways, said he was hoping to put measures in place to remove the rocks and stones from that part of the beach.

He explained: “We’ve put in a formal request for an alteration to the licence which allows us to do work on the beach, to permit the removal of all the rock and stones from kiddies’ corner.

“We are determined to improve the area, and it’s a work in progress. Once the rocks are removed we will then be able to keep the beach clear of stones by using a surf rake to maintain the sandy area.

“We are committed to making improvements and hopefully will be able to carry out the work before too long.”

And he complimented Mr Storer on work his company has carried out to repair the main jetty after it was damaged by winter storms.

“They have done a fantastic job to restore an important amenity and we appreciate it,” he added.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/plans-give-llandudno-sandy-beach-3566519 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/plans-give-llandudno-sandy-beach-3566519)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 10, 2013, 09:58:46 am
Sorry Born2run,it is a free event,i don;t know how i can control their prices without letting them come for nothing and even then they would still charge,they know their buisness and charge what they think they can get,its our choice to give it them or not.Ian,thanks for your comments.
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Post by: mrsflintstone on May 10, 2013, 10:02:04 am
A big well done to the Extravaganza committee for sorting out the problem so quickly.  $good$



That was down to the event co ordinator Gaynor Baker, Wrex,s side kick they are a good team. Wrex Called and Gaynor sorted it by calling Eddie Hall the council would not collect as it was on private land !! and if it was now put on street then extravaganza could be done for fly tipping. The cost of removal was payed for by the event so well done good PR  ZXZ ZXZ ZXZ
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Post by: Fester on May 10, 2013, 10:04:00 am
Well said Ian..  $good$

I'm glad you penned your last sentence and not me, if I had written that people would have said 'Bit aggressive Fester'
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 10, 2013, 10:12:23 am
Did they have to have a license to dump millions of tons of sand on Colwyn beach at a considerable cost,this license could be an excuse just to hold the whole thing up till 2015 or something.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mrsflintstone on May 10, 2013, 10:16:07 am
Nice to see the town all reasonably tidy this morning. Disappointing though that a whole pile of rubbish which had been put over the wall off Mostyn Street into the grounds of Holy Trinity Church, had not been moved.


That was down to the event co ordinator Gaynor Baker, Wrex,s side kick they are a good team. Wrex Called and Gaynor sorted it by calling Eddie Hall the council would not collect as it was on private land !! and if it was now put on street then extravaganza could be done for fly tipping. The cost of removal was payed for by the event so well done good PR   

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mrsflintstone on May 12, 2013, 10:43:46 pm
Local newspaper prints lovely picture of all traction engines in paper under title transport festival steam parade Grrrrrrrrh makes me mad  the transport festival has nothing to do with the extravaganza, it is a completely separate event that charges to enter.
The steam attractions cost the extravaganza in the region of £20 thousand pound and we rely on local sponsorship and donations from visitor enjoying the event but when the paper keeps getting it wrong it makes our job hard as we cannot convince people we are not council run (they give us £3000 then charge us that for street cleaning and we don't provide food!!)
So to clear up any misunderstandings the event is run by unpaid volunteers, who give their time freely to put on this event which is funded by fairground rent, program sponsorship/ sales and public donations it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRANSPORT FESTIVAL AND IT IS NOT COUNCIL FUNDED/RUN
it is done by a FEW for the MANY to ENJOY   $walesflag$
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Post by: outlawowl on May 13, 2013, 01:46:38 pm
Which local paper Mrs Flintstone...do you mean locally-based Pioneer or the corporately-owned Weekly News?
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Post by: mrsflintstone on May 13, 2013, 03:28:56 pm
WEEKLY NEWS and that was after me explaining we were a separate event and not to use extravaganza photos next to the words transport festival. It would be good if they separated the features and talked about them on different pages  that may help to clear up any misconceptions people have of us being one event. I love the transport festival and we do compliment each other but as i say they charge we don' $thanx$
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2013, 04:24:53 pm
A reminder that Abbey Road is currently closed for resurfacing.
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Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2013, 05:45:35 pm
Phew tell me about it !
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Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2013, 01:02:43 pm
Serious house fire in Victoria Ave, Craig Y Don, this morning, I'm told.  :(
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 17, 2013, 06:51:00 pm
Great news, Rally GB is coming back to Llandudno!  $good$

http://www.walesrallygb.com/news/1402.php#.UZZtqsu9KSM (http://www.walesrallygb.com/news/1402.php#.UZZtqsu9KSM)
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Post by: wrex on May 19, 2013, 06:50:48 pm
Right now where is Llandudno,we think the Clarence is on the cards,we have two empty units on Mostyn Champneys,lots of empty shops,no empty pubs but Broadway in trouble,Tudno Castle no moves,the town beach is being talked about but with the season upon us where is the work,forget pier pavilion,forget landing stage, so overall we are doing ok but not a lot in the pipeline. Z**
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Post by: Fester on May 23, 2013, 09:42:13 pm
Tonight, Circa 8pm, I was driving up the Gt Orme, and just passing Black Gate when I was astonished to see a VERY low flying aircraft overhead, travelling in the same direction as me.

It looked like a twin engine small jet aircraft, it was white... possibly an executive style Lear jet.

So low was it, that I could not believe that it cleared the roof of the large house which is near St Buenos, but it did.

Intrigued, instead of going home, I drove quickly up Killen's Hill to the summit, as I was concerned that the plane might be about to crash! But obviously there was nothing to see when I got up there.
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Post by: Quiggs on May 24, 2013, 12:08:42 am
On the way home from the :Fat Cat: ?   Z**
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Post by: Fester on May 24, 2013, 12:21:44 am
On the way home from the :Fat Cat: ?   Z**

Cheeky!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 24, 2013, 08:26:59 am
I saw it as well-- it was very low indeed.

Abbey Road is finally finished-- a week late !
Title: Tour of Britain 2013
Post by: cygnusx-1 on May 24, 2013, 07:09:51 pm
Looks like the council have done a bit of sponsorship for later in the year.

http://thetour.co.uk/tourofbritain/286.php#.UZ-r-em5llc (http://thetour.co.uk/tourofbritain/286.php#.UZ-r-em5llc)

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Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2013, 02:59:46 pm
Reports of a serious fire in Llandudno this afternoon, with 3 fire crews attending. I could see the smoke from Conwy, anyone know where the fire was?
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Post by: Yorkie on May 25, 2013, 03:01:18 pm
Fire today around 1.30 in the region of Llandudno Hospital.  Followed 2 Fire Tenders but didn't' go all the way.  Anyone any more news on the incident? :(
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 25, 2013, 04:14:13 pm
One police van with sirens and blue lights flashing raced down Mostyn Street around 3.30pm and stopped right outside Poundland.

Two minutes later, two police cars raced down Mostyn Street and went right past Poundland.

30 minutes later another police car raced down Mostyn Street.

I haven't a clue what all that was all about.
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Post by: Cat Stevens on May 25, 2013, 04:19:00 pm
Saw several police outside poundstretcher at about 3.30pm arrested an old man and took him away.
He must have been about 80 years of age.
Probably wanted some exitement in his later years
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Post by: DaveR on May 25, 2013, 04:33:36 pm
Fire appliances from Llandudno, Colwyn Bay and Conwy, together with an aerial ladder platform from Rhyl, were called to reports of a fire at a property at Ffordd Elisabeth, Llandudno at 13:23hrs today (Saturday 25th May).
 
Black smoke was reported to be coming from the windows of the two storey terraced building and crews arrived to find the first floor heavily involved in fire, with concern for four people who at that time were unaccounted for.
 
Firefighters entered the property using four sets of breathing apparatus, two hose reel jets and a main jet to fight the fire, and then worked to contain the spread of flames to adjacent properties.
 
Thankfully all those residing at this address were safely accounted for by North Wales Police.
 
The cause of the fire has yet to be determined. Crews are currently dampening down the fire and working to make the property structurally safe and to assess the damage.
 
There is no more information available at present.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 25, 2013, 06:01:23 pm
I wonder if the first police van mistakenly went to Poundland instead of Poundstretcher. 
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Post by: Sara on May 25, 2013, 11:49:15 pm
House fire in Ffordd Elisabeth, the family have lost everything, they have just the clothes they are wearing. An appeal on Facebook is bringing in lots of items for family, people were leaving donations at Ty Llewellyn earlier this evening.



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Post by: Bellringer on May 26, 2013, 07:57:28 pm
Appeal in church this morning to make and take any donations to Ty Llewellyn too.
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Post by: norman08 on May 26, 2013, 09:20:06 pm
the alex on fire now ,who says we don,t need the platform here to days now had to be used ,
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Post by: DaveR on May 27, 2013, 11:48:41 am
Significant damage to roof of the Alex Hotel. Fire service still in attendance. Debris is falling from roof onto pavement below.
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Post by: wrex on May 27, 2013, 03:35:11 pm
Was there an air show while ive been away,no mention off it
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Post by: Fester on May 27, 2013, 06:33:49 pm
Was there an air show while ive been away,no mention off it

Yes indeed!  It was  excellent.... what little I saw of it.
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Post by: DaveR on May 28, 2013, 09:38:42 am
Footage of the Alexandra Hotel fire, courtesy of Matt Syddall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8WWDdnyKXMQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8WWDdnyKXMQ)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 28, 2013, 09:45:54 am
Wow, these r/c drones get great shots!  Hope they can sort the hotel out ok! Thank goodness It didn't happen when the Extravaganza was on!
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Post by: Yorkie on May 28, 2013, 10:31:05 am
Thank goodness It didn't happen when the Extravaganza was on!

An excellent reason as to why the Extravaganza should be held outside the town centre!   ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on May 28, 2013, 11:04:35 am
Thinking about it, the Alexandra Hotel could have been accessed by fire engines via the one lane of Mostyn St that was kept clear of stalls & rides, coming up from Bog Island.
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Post by: mull on May 28, 2013, 12:00:16 pm
Just been reading Alexandra Hotel Trip Advisor.
Managers comments read like the Llandudno version of Basil Fawlty.
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Post by: Yorkie on May 28, 2013, 06:40:01 pm
Thinking about it, the Alexandra Hotel could have been accessed by fire engines via the one lane of Mostyn St that was kept clear of stalls & rides, coming up from Bog Island.

And demolishing everyone in its path.  People take up more room than the rides, but I suppose you're absolutely correct, 'cos you were there, I wasn't.

But then again it could have been another building without access, which was an unsaid observation and the point of my comment.

Thank God it was not a raging inferno and just a relatively small incident which did not require more men and appliances, and had the added problem of people trapped on upper floors.
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Post by: wrex on May 28, 2013, 06:52:03 pm
Dave i would just leave the Extravaganza brigade to have their moment and don;t fuel them,any reason to have a go and they will,next thing you know the coaches that bring tourists into town will become a hazard and they will have togo leaving us all on our own,we will be able to drive to Asda and back with no traffic to get in ourway,not a tourist in site,heaven to a few ,except the locals who actually enjoy Llandudno being 9th in the league.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 28, 2013, 08:06:57 pm
Wrex, I have to point out that I am very much in favour of the Extravaganza, we enjoy it very much! I was just relieved at the fire not happening then! I'm sure plans were in place if it had!
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Post by: Yorkie on May 28, 2013, 08:14:03 pm
I am not against the Llandudno Extravaganza per se.  I think it needs to relocate and cause less disruption to the Town Centre.

Maybe you regard the incidence of a Fire in a multi storey, or any other building, as unimportant, or that's what I think you're saying.  Have you witnessed a major fire and heard the screams of trapped people?  I doublt it, or you would not be so blasé about the siutation.

Extravaganza at ALL costs, Wrex?   Not in my book, I've had to tell people that they have lost a loved one, it ain't a pleasant duty to perform.
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Post by: Yorkie on May 28, 2013, 08:21:36 pm
...........we will be able to drive to Asda and back with no traffic to get in ourway......

Wrex, Am I correct in recalling your constant moaning and groaning about one certain set of traffic lights that kept you waiting for a few seconds?.

I am reminded of an old adage about pots and kettles!    _))*
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Post by: wrex on May 28, 2013, 09:44:57 pm
All i can say Yorkie is thank god for the county council you don;t have to use those traffic lights.
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Post by: Fester on May 28, 2013, 11:27:16 pm
I am not against the Llandudno Extravaganza per se.  I think it needs to relocate and cause less disruption to the Town Centre.

Maybe you regard the incidence of a Fire in a multi storey, or any other building, as unimportant, or that's what I think you're saying.  Have you witnessed a major fire and heard the screams of trapped people?  I doublt it, or you would not be so blasé about the siutation.

Extravaganza at ALL costs, Wrex?   Not in my book, I've had to tell people that they have lost a loved one, it ain't a pleasant duty to perform.

I was present at the Bradford City Fire disaster in the 1980's, the horrors I witnessed (but mercifully did not suffer) were beyond the comprehension of most humans.
However, I still believe that life is for living and the world has gone mad in terms of health and safety.
I would rather attend events such as that match, and take my chances!

The Extravaganza is a FANTASTIC event, and belongs wherever the committee decide it belongs.
If that means causing some congestion and re-routing of traffic then so be it.

If everyone throws up objections to such events, and they came to an end, then this town (and the world) would be a pretty hum-drum place.
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Post by: Yorkie on May 29, 2013, 08:30:15 am
It is a good job we have Forums such as this where opinions can be expressed and amicable debate is appreciated! 

 ZXZ   ZXZ   ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on May 29, 2013, 08:31:36 am
Indeed.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on May 29, 2013, 08:01:04 pm
With the ladder taking half an hour to get here they could have used the helter skelter. L0L
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 29, 2013, 08:04:36 pm
 _))* good thinking!
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Post by: wrex on May 31, 2013, 07:57:38 am
Four police cars at the bottom of Bodnant rd now,apparentley graffitte has been daubed on Arch motors fence refering to PC Donalley,not sure it needs 4 cars but nice to know their out there looking after the community.
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Post by: wrex on June 02, 2013, 03:37:06 pm
Shame to see CCBC parks dept seem to have slipped back into the last years farce,the grass is a mess and well overgrown all over town.
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Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2013, 03:47:08 pm
Seen in a Takeaway window in Mostyn St:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 02, 2013, 06:51:32 pm
So who will add the ING?  ;D
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Post by: wrex on June 04, 2013, 09:18:33 pm
Walked passed the town beach tonight,the tide was in so only a little bit of sandy beach showing,it was covered in rubbish,i wonder if the lazy buggers in the cabin will get a rake out and clean it in the morning.
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Post by: wrex on June 11, 2013, 08:01:11 am
It appears the new Tweedle dumb and Tweedle dee and the Cheshire cat have arrived in the CCBC depot,can;t say i have seen any new plinths built for them on the West Shore or in Haulfre gardens so im not sure how long they are going to sit in the depot out of site.If i remember rightly it took them months to build the others.
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Post by: DaveR on June 11, 2013, 08:08:52 am
The annual CCBC tradition of putting flagpoles on the Prom without any flags on is once again underway:
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Post by: wrex on June 11, 2013, 06:56:34 pm
The new Alice sculptures have been dumped on the builders st CCBC depot,oops sorry its supposedto be a coach park.
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Post by: romanjohn on June 12, 2013, 01:21:37 am
 Where have all the flowers gone. I said to David. here in Portsmouth our flower beds and baskets are paid for by local firms. Are there any local goverment grants that you can apply for.How is the lack of toilets going are any local firms helping out on this problem. I For one would not want the general public wanting to use my Hotel / Shop as a public toilet.Here in portsmouth we have the same problem A lot of firms have said H/S  it will cause problems.We are still in limbo with our South parade pier the owners are saying we will do that will we do this in good time for the season it will be over soon I  hope to go out with my daughter and take some pictures on sunday  To show as a seaside resort you are not alone.   good night.  romanjohn
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2013, 08:03:56 am
Look forward to seeing your photos, John.

I've never understood why CCBC doesnt make full use of sponsorship to pay for flower beds etc, practically every other local authority does so. I noticed the other day that areas of summer bedding down by Bog Island have recently been planted out with perennials to save money.
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Post by: wrex on June 12, 2013, 08:24:15 am
I like the two baskets that Mostyn estates have put up on the Tudno Castle.We need a fountain on bog island as a center piece,can you sort it DaveR.
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2013, 09:00:37 am
I like the two baskets that Mostyn estates have put up on the Tudno Castle.We need a fountain on bog island as a center piece,can you sort it DaveR.
It would look great, but CCBC have never been very good at water features. The fountain in Queens Gardens, Colwyn Bay looks great though.
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2013, 09:08:29 am
Fester was just saying that he though this sort of fountain would be suitable for the Bog Island site?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 12, 2013, 10:13:12 am
Good idea! and the sound of running water would be good for trade in the toilets too! All those extra 20p's  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on June 12, 2013, 11:33:25 am
Good idea! and the sound of running water would be good for trade in the toilets too! All those extra 20p's  :laugh:

Providing, of course, that the Bog Island Toilets are in operation.   Last time I passed by the Disabled facilities were, apparently, disabled!
 :o
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Post by: born2run on June 12, 2013, 12:38:04 pm
Hearing that Broadway Boulevard has closed it's doors for good.
Will the last drinking establishment left in Llandudno please turn out the lights
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2013, 04:31:03 pm
Hearing that Broadway Boulevard has closed it's doors for good.
Will the last drinking establishment left in Llandudno please turn out the lights
That's correct. Broadway Boulevard has closed down, following the Administrators failure to sell the business. The high rent paid (£120,000 a year), combined with the lack of discretionary spending caused by the recession, killed the business.

I also heard a whisper the other day that a well known Llandudno bar at the top end of town was struggling badly....
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 12, 2013, 04:51:29 pm
I still think there are far too many bars, pubs etc for the demand other than the height of the season.
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2013, 05:31:06 pm
Lot of Police activity in Clifton Road, reports of a stabbing.
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2013, 06:19:34 pm
Disappointing to see another very prominent Llandudno flower bed has been filled with perennials to save money instead of summer bedding flowers.  &shake&
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Post by: norman08 on June 12, 2013, 06:28:46 pm
next year it will be concrete like the llandudno sign up the valley.

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Post by: jeanus44 on June 12, 2013, 06:50:11 pm
Lot of Police activity in Clifton Road, reports of a stabbing.

I saw three Police cars heading up towards the front from Clifton Road just after 5pm!
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Post by: wrex on June 12, 2013, 08:26:22 pm
Llandudno nitelife has just suffered its second and last closure of a night club,with the loss of the Washington niteclub last year we have now lost Broadway Boulavard meaning there is no incentive for any people (youths) from Llanwrst,Colwyn Bay etc etc to come into Llandudno on a Saturday nite as we now have no entertainment,so Bangor is the big winner,along with,Chester,Liverpool and Manchester.
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Post by: DaveR on June 12, 2013, 08:59:54 pm
At risk of being the devil's advocate...it could be argued that those people weren't spending in Llandudno anyway, as the Clubs wouldn't have both closed down if they had been successful?
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Post by: Hugo on June 12, 2013, 10:50:19 pm
He tried to pull a fast one...and got caught out.  &shake&

Businessman loses appeal over uPVC windows in Llandudno
Apr 10 2013

A BUSINESSMAN has lost his appeal to keep double glazed windows in his block of flats - creating “uncertainty” for scores of

He may have broken the rules but others have done so and gotten away with it.  Mostyn Estates for instance.   In the same position but on the other side of trinity church stood a Convalescent Home for women ( Eivion and Bryn Eglwys) and according to Christopher Draper and John Lawson Reay is one of Llandudno's more regrettable examples of architectural improvement.   In the 1960's this building was demolished and the rebuilding promoted by George Hiller of Mostyn Estates as part of his transformation of a tired holiday town.
I went past the building today and it appeared to have UPVC windows. 
It seems that it is ok for Mostyn Estates to break the rules that they originally set but not for anyone else.
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Post by: Mikethewatch on June 12, 2013, 11:07:11 pm
The new Alice sculptures have been dumped on the builders st CCBC depot,oops sorry its supposedto be a coach park.
Need to stick that excuse of a clock next to them too. Is it ever right?
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Post by: wrex on June 13, 2013, 07:29:04 am
No idea Mike,i can;t see it   as you drive past
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Post by: wrex on June 13, 2013, 07:32:00 am
Sorry Dave i must disagree,i thought Fat Cat would never have a problem,as you know its the rents and rates which is killing this town,along with CCBC.
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Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2013, 08:53:04 am
Pubs, bars and nightclubs are going bust by the score all over the country though, Wrex. It's not just a Llandudno problem. High rent and rates are certainly a big part of the problem, though.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 13, 2013, 08:55:32 am
Mike is right, wrex, and I often wonder who has the responsibility of correcting  the time and is there a call-out charge every time?


I went past the building today and it appeared to have UPVC windows. 
It seems that it is ok for Mostyn Estates to break the rules that they originally set but not for anyone else.

Hugo, I worked in that building from the 2 January 1967 until 30 March 1973 and I have no recollection of Upvc windows.

I think the building was built by Frank Tyldsley and I would imagine they were wooden windows in those days.

I certainly don't remember them being white in colour.
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Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2013, 08:55:39 am
It was correct yesterday. I note that it has turned from a 'Floral Clock' into a 'Turf Clock', as no flowers have been planted in it this year.  &shake&
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Post by: Cat Stevens on June 13, 2013, 09:34:42 am
Armed police on the move again Wednesday Afternoon
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/armed-police-swoop-knifeman-llandudno-4307049 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/armed-police-swoop-knifeman-llandudno-4307049)
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Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2013, 09:52:45 am
Armed police on the move again Wednesday Afternoon
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/armed-police-swoop-knifeman-llandudno-4307049 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/armed-police-swoop-knifeman-llandudno-4307049)
One of the 'benefits & cider' brigade, no doubt....
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Post by: Hugo on June 13, 2013, 10:24:08 am
Mike is right, wrex, and I often wonder who has the responsibility of correcting  the time and is there a call-out charge every time?


I went past the building today and it appeared to have UPVC windows. 
It seems that it is ok for Mostyn Estates to break the rules that they originally set but not for anyone else.

Hugo, I worked in that building from the 2 January 1967 until 30 March 1973 and I have no recollection of Upvc windows.

I think the building was built by Frank Tyldsley and I would imagine they were wooden windows in those days.

I certainly don't remember them being white in colour.

They are certainly white now Bri and did look like UPVC but I must admit that I didn't pick up those glasses from specsavers so I'll take a closer look next time I go pass.     :-[
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 13, 2013, 10:42:14 am
The point I am trying to make, Hugo, is that if the building was first built with brown wooden windows and they have since been replaced by white Upvc windows then it maybe unfair to blame Mostyn Estates on this occasion.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2013, 10:47:23 am
To be fair, all the buildings I've seen that Mostyn Estates have bought recently (1 Mostyn Street etc) have all had the original hardwood windows retained when the building was refurbished.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 13, 2013, 11:45:34 am
Armed police on the move again Wednesday Afternoon
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/armed-police-swoop-knifeman-llandudno-4307049 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/armed-police-swoop-knifeman-llandudno-4307049)
One of the 'benefits & cider' brigade, no doubt....

oooh -- careful ! :o
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Post by: DaveR on June 13, 2013, 12:00:03 pm
Armed police on the move again Wednesday Afternoon
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/armed-police-swoop-knifeman-llandudno-4307049 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/armed-police-swoop-knifeman-llandudno-4307049)
One of the 'benefits & cider' brigade, no doubt....

oooh -- careful ! :o
I saw who owned the property, not renowned for the quality of his tenants...
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Post by: Ian48 on June 13, 2013, 12:42:48 pm
I was reading a report on this sort of thing recently and the dire state of nightclubs these days.  It seems that people just don't go to nightclubs in the numbers they used to anymore and are quite happy staying in late bars (probably why places like the 147 seems to do OK).  To be honest, Broadway used to charge as much as some of the large clubs in London to get in and for the venue and the clientele there, it simply wasn't worth it much of the time.

As for young people going to Bangor, L'pool and Manc...well, they always have done and they always will.  Things like birthdays and other occasions, yes people do, I know I did. I think to suggest that every weekend there will be an exodus to those places isn't being realistic.  Most people haven't got the money to afford the transport every weekend and won't be bothered spending an hour drunk in a taxi or coach at 2am coming home on a weekly basis.  They will still come out in Llandudno, just stay up town later. 

I think someone will come along and open somewhere else, it's too good an opportunity to miss.  In some respects there are certainly better bars up town than in the early-mid 90s, when there was no Wethers, Fat Cat/Lilly, Fountains, 147 etc. Granted there was Bartons/Annabelles (which was good), but others such as Speaks were a bit past it by then.

I am just saying essentially that 'twas ever thus and I doubt it's the end of Llandudno's nightlife as we know it, things are always up and down some place or other...
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Post by: Nemesis on June 13, 2013, 12:44:22 pm
The banners do make it rather obvious !
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Post by: Hugo on June 13, 2013, 06:36:51 pm
The point I am trying to make, Hugo, is that if the building was first built with brown wooden windows and they have since been replaced by white Upvc windows then it maybe unfair to blame Mostyn Estates on this occasion.

You are right Bri and in that case I can't blame Mostyn Estates for that     :-[     I'll just blame them for allowing a Victorian property to be demolished and replaced with a carbuncle just like they did when they allowed Boots to be built after Zion Chapel was demolished (along with their own office)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 13, 2013, 07:31:10 pm
Now they are different stories altogether.   :-}}}
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Post by: Cat Stevens on June 14, 2013, 08:26:27 am
Will the closure of Broadway and the end of the washington mean there will be more activity into the early hours up and around upper Mostyn street. And should this be an issue for local residents and police to bear in mind.
Further more as trade will now be centred on one area in particular should the council consider introducing the Early Morning Trading Levy.;
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Post by: wrex on June 14, 2013, 12:02:24 pm
My god they are all struggling to stay open and we want to put a levy on them,please lets not lose what we have left.
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Post by: Jonty Hammers on June 14, 2013, 03:18:31 pm
Quite a shame to see Broadway gone. I bitched about the clientele and the state of the carpets as much as anyone else did, but all other things aside, it was good to have a decently-sized club in the Town. Music wasn't among my tip-tops, but still always found it fun. Especially during the summer, where you'd spend much of the evening running into mates at the Cottage Loaf, Whetherspoons, Club 147 et al only for everyone to migrate down towards the Boulevard as the night got later. All things said, the atmosphere very rarely disappointed and it did make for some good nights out.

Fountains and Club 147, of course, remain - but I don't think they're quite as "big" as Broadway was, in terms of the size of its dancefloor (though chances are I'm wrong, and I'd be happy to be proven so). "Young" types such as myself will now have to head further afield for more big clubby experiences, and Ian48 is right in his estimation that this won't happen all the time. The price of a night out is becoming prohibitive pretty much anywhere, and as such it's pointed more and more towards special occasions worth going out for.

Also, heartily second Ian48's statement that this isn't the end - just an inevitable lull. Cycles and all that.

As for what pubs in Llandudno ought to do - I can't see why they really ought to change. The quietness is a real b****r, but apart from that, the atmosphere in the vast part of them is always decent (except for the more apparently "private" ones where regulars have set up a terrifying clique, suggesting that if you order the Wrong Ale or ask them to turn off the football on the telly, they'll take you out back and burn you in a big Wicker Man). And all things considered, the pubs can't really do much more to encourage people into town. Slightly cheerier employees and staff always helps, but I don't want that to sound as though many of the pubs in town are in need of it. Much of the time I've been out in Llandudno, by and large, all pub employees have been helpful and prompt. Even the poor beleagured buggers at Wethers, who would have a right to be irky, given the vast amount of prats they have to face on a weekendly basis.
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Post by: Ian48 on June 14, 2013, 03:43:07 pm
Yeah I agree with you Jonty.  I mean, coming to think of it, what did people say when the Winter Gardens closed or Paynes Cafe Royal, or Annabelles? Those places would have been viewed equally as disastrous as Broadway closing (if not more so in the case of Winters I would have thought).  I'm sure there'll be a solution to all this, just as there was when those others closed...
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Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2013, 05:10:54 pm
Some good points made. The thing is with Nightclubs is that they need a large building, and those are at a premium in Llandudno. The state of the Boulevard (Grand Theatre) has declined significantly in recent years and a lot of expenditure is required to bring it back up to standard. I'm estimating up to £250,000 may be required for the exterior alone, as the roof, brickwork, lintels, gutters, decorative rendering etc are all in need of repairs. When I toured the upper reaches of the building a couple of years back, I could see daylight though the roof in one than one place.

My own vision for the Grand Theatre would for it to be acquired by a local charity, refurbished back into theatre use with lottery funding,  and run as a mixture of community performing arts venue and commercial performance venue, featuring the sort of acts/groups etc that can't be booked into Venue Cymru due to cost/size etc..  The Theatres Trust said 'This is potentially the best traditional theatre in North Wales. It is sad that such a fine building is not playing a major role in the revival of Llandudno as a regional performance arts centre'.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5337/9041682353_4c753ce995_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/9041682353/)
Grand Theatre (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/9041682353/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: Ian on June 14, 2013, 05:22:25 pm
Really? 
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 14, 2013, 05:38:51 pm
Who actually owns the Grand Theatre?

Were Broadway Boulevard simply the tenants?
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Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2013, 05:49:57 pm
Who actually owns the Grand Theatre?

Were Broadway Boulevard simply the tenants?
Yes, and that was the problem. The rent was so high that it made the business uneconomic. The building is owned by Max Bars, a division of Prestbury Investments. I imagine they'll be keen to dispose of the building before CCBC serve an Urgent Works Notice on them.

The Land Registry Record for the Grand Theatre is attached:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 14, 2013, 06:41:00 pm
It seems the owners maybe a dormant company.

DaveR, I assume the property has been granted a listed status.

Is that correct?
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Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2013, 06:57:04 pm
Yes, I think its Listed Grade II*

"Grade II* buildings are particularly important buildings of more than special interest; 5.5% of listed buildings are Grade II* "
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Post by: Blongb on June 14, 2013, 08:03:27 pm
Yes, I think its Listed Grade II*

"Grade II* buildings are particularly important buildings of more than special interest; 5.5% of listed buildings are Grade II* "

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/wa-3633-grand-theatre-llandudno (http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/wa-3633-grand-theatre-llandudno)
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Post by: Fester on June 14, 2013, 08:20:12 pm
Thanks to Jonty and his powerful imagery, I cannot stop thinking about being burned in a Wicker Man behind a pub in Llandudno. 
I would very much like to know which pubs I should avoid in order to prevent that disturbing fate befalling me.
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Post by: Ian48 on June 14, 2013, 08:57:44 pm
I've always wondered with Broadway...when they rebuilt the interior did they keep all the plasterwork in the actual nightclub area intact? I am aware that in the 'behind the scenes' parts there is a lot intact and that the ceiling is still there etc, but in areas like the circle (which I think was the umpstairs in Broadway) and the proscenium arch area I could never find any of the plasterwork in evidence when I was in there.  Is it all just boxed-in in areas like that and built over, so that it's hidden from view, or did they remove it completely?

I too would like it to become a community theatre, but then it would become impossible as you say Dave to find another place suitable for a nightclub premises-wise. Maybe one of the places on the Champneys could become a nightclub as happens in some places.  It would help control noise as well...
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Post by: DaveR on June 14, 2013, 09:42:27 pm
As far as I know, all the original theatre plasterwork etc is still there behind the nightclub fittings. Top of the Proscenium Arch:

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2287/5707620872_b22c3f7421_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5707620872/)
Grand Theatre, Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/5707620872/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr



The circle fronts are all boxed in and hidden at present, except for the Upper Circle, which is open:

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4031/4393163486_334557142c_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4393163486/)
Grand Theatre Tour - Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4393163486/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

Ive been behind some of the false walls at ground level and it all seems to be there. The Stage and associated engineering are all intact, as is the fly tower, safety curtain and fittings.
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4069/4393459622_5743f50927_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4393459622/)
Grand Theatre Tour - Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4393459622/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

There's even a Supertrooper spotlight still hidden behind a false wall!
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4015/4392679887_65a2485c50_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4392679887/)
Grand Theatre Tour - Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4392679887/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr

I recall part of the Planning Permission for nightclub use was that the nightclub fittings had to be superimposed on top of the theatre fittings, rather than allowing anything to be ripped out.
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Post by: DVT on June 14, 2013, 10:29:47 pm
My son worked there until a couple of years ago when all the company's Assistant Managers were made redundant ... all the workings are still in place in the cellar as well, although would need some work to restore.

Upstairs the seats are still in place, and the seats all in the upright position but whenever the next person went up there one seat was down in the sitting position - ghosts?  My son said he often felt a "presence" when up there.
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Post by: Bellringer on June 15, 2013, 05:18:02 pm
Congratulations to Mrs Betty Perrin on the award of an MBE in the Birthday Honours' List recognising her sterling work for local carers.
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Post by: DaveR on June 15, 2013, 06:20:40 pm
Upstairs the seats are still in place, and the seats all in the upright position but whenever the next person went up there one seat was down in the sitting position - ghosts?  My son said he often felt a "presence" when up there.
Hmmm, I saw this when I went up there!!

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4066/4392636111_5803cb0954_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4392636111/)
Grand Theatre Tour - Llandudno (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/4392636111/#) by [davidrobertsphotography] (http://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
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Post by: wrex on June 16, 2013, 09:17:36 am
Could be Alex Munro who ran it at the end.
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Post by: wrex on June 16, 2013, 12:20:49 pm
Just been to LLanrhos to visit dads grave,im very glad the parks dept had cut the grass,last year on Mothers day it was a disgrace,only 3 very busy days in the cemetry,today,mothers day and xmas day so its not hard to sort.
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Post by: Linda on June 18, 2013, 12:51:19 pm
Or worse !! ;D

 _))* yes Llandudno  has a real loo problem. How on earth do all these visitors manage, up two escalators to Marks and Sparks 2 ladies toilets only. How many times i have had to que there. Or find a restaurant or pub and buy a drink or food seems to be the only way. I think though you are allowed in KFC without buying(an agreement with the council I believe).
  :laugh:and yes! Yorkie I should imagine many forgetting where they were going along the Prom we could provide transport to the loos at the Paddling pool  *cycle*
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2013, 01:03:51 pm
Apologies for hijacking the topic but there are plenty of establishments in Llandudno who will avail their facilities to visitors as a result of receiving an annual sum of £500 from the council.

However, finding where they all are is not easy because many of their window signs have faded.

I always feel sorry for the elderly visitors returning to the coach park on Mostyn Broadway at the end of their day out only to find the cafe and toilets shut.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 18, 2013, 01:08:53 pm
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/543/Businesses_participating_in_the_Community_Toilet_Scheme_and_facilities_available_Mar_2013.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/543/Businesses_participating_in_the_Community_Toilet_Scheme_and_facilities_available_Mar_2013.pdf)
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Post by: wrex on June 18, 2013, 05:59:26 pm
Llandudno museum is looking nice.
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Post by: wrex on June 18, 2013, 08:29:05 pm
Not sure who runs the friends of Craig-y -Don park but they can;t have much influence over the parks dept,the grass is a mess and very rarely cut.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2013, 09:08:51 pm
Llandudno museum is looking nice.

I just passed and it is covered in scaffolding.  :o

BTW, cousin Diane has just messaged me to say she is coming up in November.
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Post by: andyCYD on June 18, 2013, 09:19:43 pm
I am the Chairman of the Friends of Craig y Don park. I have been told the grass 'should' be cut later this week. I am not sure when it was last done, but it certainly has grown.

We have asked for an area to be left un-cut to allow wild flowers to grow. It did look really good with a path cut through (see photo). But I know it now looks a mess.

To be fair to the council, we had a couple of weeks without rain and nothing was growing. Then it rained and everything really took off.

We have a gardening squad who have worked very hard over recent months planting up new beds, clearing path edges and generally tidying the place. Some of it is work in progress and there are a few experiments (particularly the bog garden). I am confident it will look great when the grass does get cut.




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Post by: Linda on June 19, 2013, 12:57:21 am
Thats quite a list, that i didnt know of . Handy to look out then for signs  $good$
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Post by: Fester on June 19, 2013, 02:10:30 am
Apologies for hijacking the topic but there are plenty of establishments in Llandudno who will avail their facilities to visitors as a result of receiving an annual sum of £500 from the council.

However, finding where they all are is not easy because many of their window signs have faded.

I always feel sorry for the elderly visitors returning to the coach park on Mostyn Broadway at the end of their day out only to find the cafe and toilets shut.

Why are they closed at those times Bri?
If I had a shop there, I would surely open when there was most people about?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 19, 2013, 08:22:28 am
Fester, I think the cafe and toilets close around 5pm but, often, not all the coaches have left by that time.

Also, the coach park is often busy on a Sunday with day trippers but the cafe is not always open on Sundays.

Neither situation is ideal for an elderly day visitor.

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Post by: born2run on June 19, 2013, 12:22:38 pm
I am the Chairman of the Friends of Craig y Don park. I have been told the grass 'should' be cut later this week. I am not sure when it was last done, but it certainly has grown.

We have asked for an area to be left un-cut to allow wild flowers to grow. It did look really good with a path cut through (see photo). But I know it now looks a mess.

To be fair to the council, we had a couple of weeks without rain and nothing was growing. Then it rained and everything really took off.

We have a gardening squad who have worked very hard over recent months planting up new beds, clearing path edges and generally tidying the place. Some of it is work in progress and there are a few experiments (particularly the bog garden). I am confident it will look great when the grass does get cut.

Andy

Is the lawn area across the road - next to the tennis courts - Private land or is it for public use?

Thanks
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Post by: andyCYD on June 19, 2013, 01:25:48 pm
Grass in Craig y Don park was cut this morning. Some bits have been left uncut on purpose for bio-diversity and to add interest.

Born2Run
I guess you are talking about the grass area used by the bowlers in the winter and the croquet club. I don't know who owns or maintains it.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 19, 2013, 01:48:32 pm
The land is owned by CCBC and is supposed to be a crown green bowling green although it is often used for croquet during the summer months these days.
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Post by: born2run on June 19, 2013, 05:14:44 pm
So if it's owned by CCBC it's for anyone to use?
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Post by: wrex on June 19, 2013, 05:41:27 pm
Andy i know your group is doing a fine job but there is no excuse for the place to be left for so long looking a mess,just keep on top of the parks dept,they need watching,bad management.
,
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 19, 2013, 06:24:54 pm
So if it's owned by CCBC it's for anyone to use?

Twenty five years ago you could turn up and pay to use the bowling green by paying a nominal fee.

That was before the old pavilion burned down and a new Community Centre was built.

What the arrangements are today I do not know, but you could always ask at the Community Centre.


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Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2013, 10:34:29 am
My own vision for the Grand Theatre would for it to be acquired by a local charity, refurbished back into theatre use with lottery funding,  and run as a mixture of community performing arts venue and commercial performance venue, featuring the sort of acts/groups etc that can't be booked into Venue Cymru due to cost/size etc..  The Theatres Trust said 'This is potentially the best traditional theatre in North Wales. It is sad that such a fine building is not playing a major role in the revival of Llandudno as a regional performance arts centre'.

Funnily enough, Page 6 of today's Weekly News has exactly such a plan as I've outlined above. Llandudno Seaside Buildings Trust are hoping to acquire the Theatre, refurbish it with Lottery money and then use it for community/commercial use, including a cinema.  $good$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 20, 2013, 02:53:12 pm
Rather like Theatr Colwyn.
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Post by: wrex on June 20, 2013, 05:09:14 pm
The Alice sculptures are very popular,what a shame the 3 new ones are sitting in Builders st coach park with no sign of any plinths for them,and we all know how long the others took.
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Post by: DaveR on June 20, 2013, 08:58:50 pm
A TRUST set up to preserve a resort’s historic  buildings wants to see a former nightclub restored it to its former use as a theatre.

The Llandudno Seaside Buildings Preservation Trust has previously renovated the former St George’s School in the resort, and was instrumental in the preservation of the former Tabernacl Chapel.

And trust member John Lawson-Reay says it is now investigating ways of acquiring the premises, which until last week housed the Broadway Boulevard nightspot.

Originally the building, which has protective Grade II listing, was the Grand Theatre which became nationally famous during the Second World War as the popular radio show ITMA (It’s That Man Again) featuring  comedian Tommy Handley was broadcast from there.

And before becoming a nightclub it had been home to a repertory company which staged a wide variety of plays.

John explained: “The theatre is still there behind plywood which was erected to convert it into a nightclub, and would need minimal alterations to convert it back to that use.

“All the elements of a theatre are there, from the stage, dressing rooms and boxes to the circle and seating. Our vision is to reinstate it, and make it a facility for community use.

“We envisage dual use as a cinema, and for small theatrical productions so it wouldn’t be in competition with Venue Cymru.

“It would fill a niche and could be used for a variety of purposes. For instance it would be ideal for amateur groups and for smaller, more intimate performances.

“We have identified parts of the building which need attention but there is nothing too serious in terms of structural work,” he claimed.

Last year Llandudno Civic Society, of which he is chairman, was able to hold an open day there giving people an opportunity to  look around the building.

“Among those who came were members of the National Theatres Society who described it an as absolute gem of a theatre and thought it was in a remarkably good state of preservation.

“The stage facilities, including lifts and trap doors, are all still intact which is quite amazing,” he added.

As a charitable Trust, John believes the organisation would be able to attract funding for the project.

“As it is a listed building we could look at Heritage Lottery grants, and there are other funding sources we may be able to tap into.

“Our aim would be to acquire and restore the building and then pass it on to another group to administer,” he added.

And entertainer Ian Turner says he would like to be part of the project and explore ways in which that could be achieved.

“The Grand is an important part of the town’s entertainment history and we need to preserve it.

“With dual use as a cinema and theatre, and if we put the right productions in there, I’m sure it would work,” he said.

The Boulevard’s owners Atmosphere Bars and Clubs Ltd, based in Milton Keynes, went into administration last month due to cashflow problems.

But the nightspot stayed open while administrators Deloitte, appointed in May, tried to find a buyer for it.

However, last week they announced they had been unsuccessful and it closed for good.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/broadway-boulevard-could-saved-community-4693027 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/broadway-boulevard-could-saved-community-4693027)
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Post by: Fester on June 20, 2013, 10:08:14 pm
The Alice sculptures are very popular,what a shame the 3 new ones are sitting in Builders st coach park with no sign of any plinths for them,and we all know how long the others took.

Not sure about popular they are, I have never heard anyone mention them to me.

The one of Alice outside the railway station is somewhat scary, not at all in keeping with the Alice tradition, and serves only to make visitors confused and raise an eyebrow.
Thats not an excuse to leave the others in a depot though,
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Post by: wrex on June 20, 2013, 10:10:15 pm
I wish them well,but i do hope the youngsters get some where else to go before we loose them ,Mr Dickens was running a coach to Bangor last week so defeat has already come but one local entrepenaur is needed and soon.
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Post by: wrex on June 20, 2013, 10:13:21 pm
Fester whenever i go past one someone is having a picture with it,but i reckon CCBC don;t have the money for the plinths.
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Post by: Michael on June 20, 2013, 10:29:17 pm
   There is what I consider a really delightful display of tall wild flowers. Don't ask me what they are, but as for colours, there is red, purple blue and yellow all about four foot high, right in the middle of Llandudno.
   On the retaining bank in Builder Street, opposite Williams the metal people. Mike
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Post by: Paulakelsall on June 20, 2013, 11:05:57 pm
   There is what I consider a really delightful display of tall wild flowers. Don't ask me what they are, but as for colours, there is red, purple blue and yellow all about four foot high, right in the middle of Llandudno.
   On the retaining bank in Builder Street, opposite Williams the metal people. Mike

I also noticed them tonight! They looked lovely and a stark contrast to 'bog island' area which whilst looking well tended was all greenery.
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Post by: Fester on June 20, 2013, 11:25:07 pm
   There is what I consider a really delightful display of tall wild flowers. Don't ask me what they are, but as for colours, there is red, purple blue and yellow all about four foot high, right in the middle of Llandudno.
   On the retaining bank in Builder Street, opposite Williams the metal people. Mike

Opposite Williams the Steel people is the boundary fence and wall for the railway station isn't it? 
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Post by: wrex on June 21, 2013, 06:43:18 am
If we take the open top red bus down Builders st to see these wild flowers,then it can do a lap of the coach park to see the 3 Alice figures,sorted,and if i put a hose pipeon the roof of Linny Coopers we;ll have a waterfall,so excited.
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Post by: DaveR on June 21, 2013, 07:00:04 am
Fester whenever i go past one someone is having a picture with it,but i reckon CCBC don;t have the money for the plinths.
The one at Bog Island is very popular with people having their photo taken with it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 21, 2013, 07:02:08 am
   There is what I consider a really delightful display of tall wild flowers. Don't ask me what they are, but as for colours, there is red, purple blue and yellow all about four foot high, right in the middle of Llandudno.
   On the retaining bank in Builder Street, opposite Williams the metal people. Mike

Opposite Williams the Steel people is the boundary fence and wall for the railway station isn't it?
It's the area of semi-derelict open ground that used to be the Goods Yard and which now serves as dumping ground, wild flower meadow and alcoholics retreat.
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Post by: wrex on June 21, 2013, 04:52:40 pm
Ooh Dave Mr Done would be upset to hear that about his little investment.
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Post by: wrex on June 23, 2013, 12:35:19 pm
Im sure i saw a machine that looked like a beach cleaning machine go past Gloddaeth Ave the other day,the West shore seemed to have been cleaned by the old Gogarth Abbey,did any one notice wether the town beach had been done.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 24, 2013, 12:28:41 pm
Possibly been borrowed by colwyn bay for the new beach
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Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2013, 02:10:04 pm
Looking at their web site http://www.bed.dk/data.aspx (http://www.bed.dk/data.aspx) it seems to be something to do with Evangalism.   Maybe a travelling Mission?   :D
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Post by: Yorkie on June 24, 2013, 07:49:23 pm
Oooops, seemed to have put this on wrong thread.  It was supposed to be about the ship lying offshore!    :-X
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Post by: wrex on June 24, 2013, 08:08:37 pm
Just been to see Tweedle Dum and Tweedle dee along side them sits the grinning Cheshire cat,they look lovly next to the bin wagon on Builders st coach park(CCBCdumping ground).IOf you want to see them just go between the skate park and the football ground on to the disused bmx track and there they are not covered ,not hidden,of course that is the idea to put them on show,have CCBC started the plinths yet,soon be winter.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on June 24, 2013, 09:59:19 pm
Oooops, seemed to have put this on wrong thread.  It was supposed to be about the ship lying offshore!    :-X

Try this instead Yorkie http://c-bed.nl/ (http://c-bed.nl/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2013, 06:24:23 am
Oooops, seemed to have put this on wrong thread.  It was supposed to be about the ship lying offshore!    :-X

Try this instead Yorkie http://c-bed.nl/ (http://c-bed.nl/)

Ah, all is clear now - the haze has lifted!   So I gained two pieces of knowledge instead of just one!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 25, 2013, 09:49:09 am
A peek inside the corridors of power at CCBC:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/r8P6yj4xTs0 (https://www.youtube.com/embed/r8P6yj4xTs0)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 25, 2013, 10:44:09 am
Very interesting! I'm no lover of dogs, but to issue fines without signs is totally unfair!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 25, 2013, 10:57:08 am
Im sure i saw a machine that looked like a beach cleaning machine go past Gloddaeth Ave the other day,the West shore seemed to have been cleaned by the old Gogarth Abbey,did any one notice wether the town beach had been done.

There was a beach cleaning machine on the lifeboat slipway this morning at 10.15 am and the North Shore Beach had been newly raked.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 25, 2013, 11:18:05 am
having just watched the video of the council meeting, ref the dogs control ,i,m sorry but these councilors are so up their own ??? s they are so comfy have been for too long ,and don,t say go and be one as until you get rid of the lot of them you are fighting a losing battle .
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on June 25, 2013, 07:58:37 pm
>>> Oh dear, I started to write a lot more but Discretion is the best part of Valour
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 25, 2013, 08:16:54 pm
A minor meeting of Forum minds this evening, when Fester and myself were joined at the Gresham by first Mike Ormegolf and then Wrex.  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 26, 2013, 01:41:00 pm
It was correct yesterday. I note that it has turned from a 'Floral Clock' into a 'Turf Clock', as no flowers have been planted in it this year.  &shake&

Workmen planting up the clock with flowers as I drove past this morning  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on June 28, 2013, 10:39:50 pm
MY other half and myself shopped in Llandudno today, and noticed all the cones along the north shore prom. Just where are all the visitors and beach folk and daytrippers suppose to park over the weekend?  So glad we went today to B and Q etc. Altho they had an hour only sign up. Glad I wasn't going for a new Kitchen or bathroom. Took us two hours last year to choose ours . So their customers will be thin on the ground over the weekend if they are spending a lot of cash. Great there is a Triathlon there but don't forget the rest of the folk who visit the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 28, 2013, 11:52:12 pm
Well said Linda, that bears out my point on the tourism thread perfectly, as did the comments of the very few customers I had today.  Those who were staying in hotels close to North Parade, but were barred from doing so.

Glad you said it, as I am accused of being negative about events when I say it.

Now, something else I witnessed in astonishment today.
Outside the Grand Hotel, an elderly man was forced to park on the 'double yellows' outside the doors to offload his cases.
This is because ALL parking spaces had been coned off, as had the coach unloading area for The Grand.
As he went inside, the CCBC parking man swooped..... and TICKETED the poor old sod's car!!
Welcome to Llandudno eh?   It made me sick.   $angry$ $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2013, 07:24:42 am
That is completely unfair! Hope he appeals against it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 29, 2013, 07:43:08 am
He should definitely appeal.  And I think he has the right to park for a few moments to unload, doesn't he?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 29, 2013, 10:03:34 am
Church Walks will be closed from 1pm till 8pm today. What happens if you wish to access your Hotel there? I reckoned on almost 20 businesses affected ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2013, 11:38:37 am
Church Walks will be closed from 1pm till 8pm today. What happens if you wish to access your Hotel there? I reckoned on almost 20 businesses affected ???
Indeed. Whilst I'm all in favour of events such as the Triathlon, the needs of local residents and businesses must also be taken into account. I'm hoping the Marshals will be flexible enough to deal with all the people wishing to access properties/hotels etc.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 29, 2013, 11:46:04 am
From past experience-- it makes life very difficult ! They were very bolshie with my OH last year when he tried to get home in the car . It seems we were cut off in all directions.

Just been down to the prom with the dog-- I hope they make some 'crossing places' for people to get from the road across to the beach side of the prom. There seem to be alot of elderly folk strolling up and down, at present there are ways through the maze of barriers-- but later???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 29, 2013, 11:57:33 am
Ask any Councillor, Town or County and they will tell you we are a load of ungrateful morons.  They all appear to be under the misguided impression that they have done the town a favour!   $angry$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 29, 2013, 12:59:13 pm
do any councillors know whats going on  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 29, 2013, 03:39:21 pm
My OH walked the dog down to the prom this p.m and was chatting to the Promenade Inspector. When asked why his deckchairs were still wrapped up the answer was that there wasn't enough room for them and he had been told not to hire them out. :o

I shall refrain to comment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 29, 2013, 03:39:41 pm
Town seems to be busy so that can;t be bad can it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mersey_dub on June 29, 2013, 04:30:53 pm
It's great to see Llandudno so thriving. It's noticeably very different to the Isle of Man which was, well, very quiet last weekend by comparison. Tonight Mr and Mrs Mersey_dub are in residence at the Malborough, listening to the dulcet tones of Mr Punch (that's the way to do it!) . Tonight it's Arthur and Peg Wignall's 70th Anniversary party in town !! Just hope the weather's good tomorrow- fancy a stroll around town to cure the hangover   :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 29, 2013, 07:04:23 pm
Enjoy your visit!  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 30, 2013, 08:35:38 am
How's the head this morning ? ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 30, 2013, 10:16:24 am
Last nite was the busiest i have seen Llandudno in a long time,not sure if it was down to the triathlone or just a one off but it was nice to see.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mersey_dub on June 30, 2013, 10:45:13 am
When so many hotels have 'no vacancies' signs up, that in itself is a sign of success. Most enjoyable stay , beautiful, clean, fresh Llandudno. Really hope to be back soon! (good fry-up at breakfast this morning, would cure any hangover!)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andyCYD on June 30, 2013, 11:24:37 am
Lots of people cheering us triathlon competitors on all around the course yesterday. I didn't notice any major problems on the roads. Several tourists talked to me before and after, saying how much they had enjoyed watching.

So a few deck chairs didn't get used.

Town was busy. Most people were happy. Can we say it was a success for the town?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 30, 2013, 02:33:24 pm
Still waiting to see how the local buisnesses did.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 30, 2013, 09:06:12 pm
It was good to see that the parking restrictions around North Parade and Happy Valley were entirely ignored!   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: carwyn on July 04, 2013, 01:51:10 am
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In her email, she wrote there had been an “antagonised attempt to force me from the Town House pub.

Personally, there would need to be an 'antagonised attempt' to get me into the Town House...  :laugh:  :laugh:

That may be your personal opinion,  however lets not forget the Town House has up held Best Bar None, Best Pub in Conwy And Denbighshire since 2010, awarded by a committee that consists of Conwy Licencing Authority,  North Wales Policeand the Community Safety. This is awarded to the best run premises.for their commitment to safety and customer care.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2013, 08:03:54 am
Different strokes for different folks. It would be a dull world if we all liked the same thing.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 04, 2013, 08:22:46 am
Some useful advice for this time of year!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/shortcuts/2013/jul/02/how-to-survive-seagull-attack (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/shortcuts/2013/jul/02/how-to-survive-seagull-attack)

It's no joke, being attacked by a seagull. Pensioners have been hospitalised, blood gushing from cut heads. Others have been knocked to the ground, breaking bones. Small dogs have bled to death, children's lips been sliced open, and an elderly man died of a heart attack following a particularly vicious assault in his back garden (3). News that the Royal Mail has temporarily halted deliveries to an otherwise peaceful Cornish cul-de-sac because of the danger should come as no big surprise; it's happened before.

A diving herring gull is a missile: special attack talon on the heel, razor-sharp two-inch beak, 1.4-metre wingspan, more than a kilo of angry bird travelling at 65kph. No wonder there's blood. And there are more and more of them, at least in built-up areas: Britain's urban gull population – thriving on takeaway scraps, open-topped litter bins and landfill sites to scavenge from, and wide ledges and flat rooftops to nest on – is growing by 20% a year. Seagulls can live for up to 40 years, and their survival rate in cities is 95%.

They have, consequently, become less afraid of us. Often, we positively encourage them: leaving leftovers on tables, even feeding them (despite an abundance of notices, particularly in seaside towns, imploring us not to).The problem has become so acute that some towns have turned to deterrents such as hawks, netting, egg-oiling, high-frequency sound systems, rooftop spikes, electrified wires and even ersatz eggs (5). Killing or harming most seagulls is illegal without a permit: while urban populations are increasing, gull numbers overall are in decline.

Swooping gulls can be annoying at the best of times, but at this time of year they can be positively dangerous. From mid-May to late July, when fledglings have hatched but are not yet able to fly, adult gulls become highly territorial and protective of their young. If you get too close, they will use a variety of tactics to try to drive you away.

First comes the "gag call" – a low, repeated warning call that essentially means: Go away. Next is the low pass, within a metre or two of the intruder's head. Then aerial operations commence. Phase one is bombardment: gulls target the perceived threat with droppings and vomit. Phase two is all-out attack – usually a low, raking strike to the back of the head with talons extended.

Once things get to this stage, obviously, there's not a lot you can do beyond duck and try shield your head. Best advice? Keep your eyes and ears open, and learn what the gulls are trying to tell you. Our ignorance of their warnings is their greatest weapon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: BMD on July 04, 2013, 03:54:15 pm
Yes, useful advice. I have gulls nesting in a valley gutter of my roof at the moment, and I'd planned to do some work on the outside of some windows fairly close to the nest. I think I'll postpone that task.

A lot of the Victorian architecture in the region seems perfect for gulls - almost tailor-made for them, with large ledges they can perch on etc. I guess urban gulls weren't a big problem in the 1890s.

I wish that peregrine falcon that sometimes visits Colwyn Bay pier would come and perch on my roof occasionally.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on July 04, 2013, 09:21:36 pm
in mosyn street today an elderly couple [visitors] the old chap dropped the cellophane wrapper of his sweet ,whoosh NO not a seagull but one of the prats the council have bought in read his rights and slapped him with a £ 75 FINE , oh yes loads of paper bags /paper blowing along but sod that , ppor sods thats about half a weeks pension gone .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2013, 11:18:55 pm
Seems out of all proportion! How do they fine you anyway? What's to stop you giving a false name and address? Don't get me wrong, I hate litter, but can they not ask you to pick it up first?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on July 04, 2013, 11:39:21 pm
I would have thought that being stopped in the first place would make you feel shamed enough without having to pay a fine. The world is going mad
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 05, 2013, 01:07:26 am
I would have thought that being stopped in the first place would make you feel shamed enough without having to pay a fine. The world is going mad

The world is indeed going mad Bri,  only last week Dave and I were having a beer and a friend of mine told us what he had seen near Bog Island earlier.
Basically, a baby in a pushchair had inadvertently lost its dummy on the floor, and the parents did not immediately notice.
But the CCBC enforcement officers did.... swooped, and slapped the parents with a £75 fine!    Those looking on were incensed, as I am right now just by thinking about it.
The fine was administered nonetheless.   $angry$ $angry$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 05, 2013, 06:59:39 am
Lets have a protest on Aug 10 against CCBC polocies,we knowthere will be plenty of onlookers and it will give the police(100 i doubt)something to do,unfortunately we might not be able to go for a drink after but never mind.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2013, 07:38:39 am
But how do these officers know who you are? It's not like a car with a number plate?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 05, 2013, 07:57:23 am
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But the CCBC enforcement officers did.... swooped, and slapped the parents with a £75 fine!    Those looking on were incensed, as I am right now just by thinking about it.

I wonder if the baby qualifies for legal aid?  L0L

Seriously, the XFOR people are probably being incentive-led and it's easier to confront parents of babies and old people rather than dog owners and teenage litterers. Kingston Security took XFOR over when the latter went into administration the month before last.  I've never seen these people;  does anyone have a photo of them?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 05, 2013, 08:04:47 am
Seems like they are:

May 2013:

"The private company Xfor pioneered fining-on-commission arrangements with local authorities. For every £75 fine issued - for littering, or offences including leafleting without a licence, or walking a dog in a no-dog zone - the company pocketed £45.

Xfor denied that individual officers were paid commission. But now that the company has been purchased by Kingdom Security ltd, some of its officers have spoken out about its incentive schemes.

An anonymous officer who patrolled in South Wales said: “We had to give out four tickets a day and for any over that we would receive £5-a-ticket bonus.”

This is a clear personal incentive for the officers to give out as many tickets as possible, at any possible opportunity - hence the cases of people being fined for dropping a thread of cotton, a matchstick, some nut shells, and so on.

Whenever officers have a personal incentive to punish, injustice and corruption is bound to result. The heart of the problem is the councils farming their residents out to companies - and caring only for the receipts that roll in - which shows an indifference to justice and a corrosion of public service. "

The Manifesto Club
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 05, 2013, 08:11:37 am
Perhaps herein lies a prima facie case of MALADMINISTRATION by the Authority!    ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2013, 08:41:55 am
Just the same down south!

http://www.rctcbc.gov.uk/mobile/EN/TransportStreets/StreetcareandCleaning/LitterEnforcement/LitterEnforcement.aspx (http://www.rctcbc.gov.uk/mobile/EN/TransportStreets/StreetcareandCleaning/LitterEnforcement/LitterEnforcement.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2013, 10:39:04 am
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"The Xfor employees have no powers of arrest or detention. If a "suspect" refuses to give their details the police are called. Xfor employees are discouraged from chasing suspects who run away. But they are told to make it clear that they will attempt to trace them."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/14/litter-law-enforcers-blaenau-gwent (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/14/litter-law-enforcers-blaenau-gwent)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on July 05, 2013, 11:18:49 am
I am so angry to here how we treat the elderley anyway now these litter officers targeting young mums with children. Its disgusting when the other week i posted how the beach in Colwyn had been left, no one was about then to police the area they would have made a bomb there. I had to remind my daughter with her toddler and new baby to be so careful what fell out of her bag or pockets , as we all know with little ones tissues get stuffed into our pockets etc. When i heard about the child with the dummy I was livid. I think we need to protest as well as people like my mother or my daughters with kiddies would be devastated with that amount of fine. If required £20 would be sufficient to make folk think twice anyway. What a bl--dy scam! 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2013, 12:23:35 pm
This seems to be the new version of parking clamping! To me it would be fair if the officers said "excuse me but you've dropped something" if you pick it up, end of story, if you refuse then fair enough accept the fine. There is a big difference between deliberately throwing litter on the ground and accidentally dropping something, this is just about earning cash  $angry$. I wonder what happens if you accidentally drop a ten pound note?  WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 05, 2013, 12:40:13 pm
I wonder what happens if you accidentally drop a ten pound note?  WWW

Let the chap pick it up and you probably won't hear another peep about the incident!    ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on July 05, 2013, 02:07:47 pm
in mosyn street today an elderly couple [visitors] the old chap dropped the cellophane wrapper of his sweet ,whoosh NO not a seagull but one of the prats the council have bought in read his rights and slapped him with a £ 75 FINE , oh yes loads of paper bags /paper blowing along but sod that , ppor sods thats about half a weeks pension gone .

Was the wrapper dropped by accident or deliberately dropped?  If it was deliberate then I have no sympathy regardless of the chap's age and I'd consider the prat to the chap responsible for littering rather than the one enforcing the rules.  I don't get the argument that it's ok to drop litter if there's already lots of litter blowing around, it's a bit like saying you shouldn't prosecue a thief who gets caught in the act just because lots of other thiefs haven't been caught.  And if visitors really want to drop litter on the floor then they should keep hold of it until they get home and drop it on the floor of their own town  :twoface:.

If it was dropped by accident then I agree the response was OTT.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 05, 2013, 04:46:57 pm
I think that, according to the Law, the Baby that dropped the dummy, should have been the one to be given the FPN.  Then being below the age of responsibility, any further action would have been fruitless.   :D

I've looked for a copy of the Litter Regulations etc.  but cannot find them on CCBC web site.  Can anyone steer me to them?   :(

Or are they just keeping us in ignorance of the Law?   :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on July 05, 2013, 06:58:36 pm
It seems to be the law of the land rather than Council regulations - check Wikipedia entry for "litter". 
Yorkie is right if the child dropped the dummy it would not be an offence. Could this story be a wind-up ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 05, 2013, 07:20:42 pm
With a Baby, it could be the wind, but a drop of gripe water could solve that! :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 05, 2013, 07:42:13 pm
It's all here and a bit of a hard read.  Can't find any loopholes so far, but there must be one or two!   ;)

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/introduction (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/introduction)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on July 05, 2013, 11:17:42 pm
I am so angry to here how we treat the elderley anyway now these litter officers targeting young mums with children. Its disgusting when the other week i posted how the beach in Colwyn had been left, no one was about then to police the area they would have made a bomb there. I had to remind my daughter with her toddler and new baby to be so careful what fell out of her bag or pockets , as we all know with little ones tissues get stuffed into our pockets etc. When i heard about the child with the dummy I was livid. I think we need to protest as well as people like my mother or my daughters with kiddies would be devastated with that amount of fine. If required £20 would be sufficient to make folk think twice anyway. What a bl--dy scam!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on July 05, 2013, 11:19:37 pm
The above photo taken a few weeks ago on the new beach in Colwyn Bay, where were these litter inspectors then, shame on them finding the easy targets instead.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 06, 2013, 12:00:23 am
It seems to be the law of the land rather than Council regulations - check Wikipedia entry for "litter". 
Yorkie is right if the child dropped the dummy it would not be an offence. Could this story be a wind-up ?

I think not, the chap who witnessed it is not renowned for such things, and was visibly angered by what he had seen.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2013, 08:44:14 am
This is an interesting case and - were it not for the fact that XFOR has a reputation for this type of bizarre behaviour - I would tend to think that there was more to it.

In fact, had the couple refused point-blank to pay they would have been on safe ground, as there is nothing in criminal law that holds a parent accountable for the actions of their offspring. Under the Children Act it might be possible to examine whether the parents were exercising due care and attention in regard to the care of their child, but any prosecution for that would almost certainly fail, even if there were anyone in CPS or the Police unwise enough to try to mount such a case. In any case, under the legislation to which Yorkie pointed the only offence which could be committed by the child would be to fail to supply its full name and address when so questioned and, because of its age, no action could be taken anyway.

The elderly couple, however, would not be quite so lucky.  Once again, the most significant offence would be to fail to supply name and address when questioned;  most courts, however, would be irritated were prosecutions bought against law-abiding guests of the town for a very minor infraction where significant doubt existed as to whether they even knew they'd dropped the litter.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 07, 2013, 08:49:17 am
Nice to see Fester and the lads at the cable car getting the chance to make a few bucks in this weather,even seem to be a few more daytrip coaches in on a Saturday of late.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 07, 2013, 06:18:58 pm
Looks like somebody made a booboo...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 07, 2013, 06:33:32 pm
Seems that one has to check the LARGE PRINT now,  as well as the small!   ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on July 07, 2013, 06:52:23 pm
Seems that one has to check the LARGE PRINT now,  as well as the small!   ;D
I like that Yorkie  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on July 07, 2013, 09:58:44 pm
Interesting first line on the manufacturers website ...

Jancraft only produce and source products that meet our high standards for quality and value for money.

If they simply printed what was requested then someone local seems to need a spellcheck!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 09, 2013, 08:11:08 am
I have been asked to post this. :o

My only comment is-- don't shoot the messenger !


Hi Janet

 

The comment below is in an e mail to your Council e mail and copied to others.

 

I’ll leave you to decide if the post on Three Towns Forum should be responded to or left to gather dust!

 

Lianne has discussed this with Kingdom officers, it is complete fabrication, and they would never issue a FPN under such circumstances. This same accusation has been made regarding Kingdom in Denbighshire and Blaenau Gwent apparently. It seems some people are trying to stir up trouble as we didn’t have enough!

 

Ken

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 09, 2013, 08:17:43 am
Is this about the litter officers?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 09, 2013, 08:23:43 am

Lianne has discussed this with Kingdom officers, it is complete fabrication, and they would never issue a FPN under such circumstances. This same accusation has been made regarding Kingdom in Denbighshire and Blaenau Gwent apparently. It seems some people are trying to stir up trouble as we didn’t have enough!
Ken

No such thing as NEVER!   Would appear that the Company policy is National, as is usually the case!    WWW  WWW  WWW WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 09, 2013, 08:38:34 am
Is this about the litter officers?
Good question. Who is Ken? Who is Janet? Who is Lianne?  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 09, 2013, 10:57:02 am
I really don't think it is up to me to divulge names, but the message to me was from a local councillor and was the reply that she had received after complaining about the alleged offence of the child and it's dummy.

The inference seems to be by the last sentence that we as a forum are stirring up trouble.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 09, 2013, 11:06:17 am
Not sure it's aimed at us.  Fester says it was reported to him, by someone in whom he, presumably, has confidence.  But that person might not have witnessed the event itself and might only be reporting a rumour.

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Only last week Dave and I were having a beer and a friend of mine told us what he had seen near Bog Island earlier.  Basically, a baby in a pushchair had inadvertently lost its dummy on the floor, and the parents did not immediately notice.But the CCBC enforcement officers did.... swooped, and slapped the parents with a £75 fine!    Those looking on were incensed, as I am right now just by thinking about it. The fine was administered nonetheless. 

However, there are two possible interpretations: the original witness was only reporting a rumour, and hadn't checked it out for himself, despite saying he'd 'witnessed' it.

The other possibility is that the person to whom N. posed her enquiry was misinformed. 
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Post by: Nemesis on July 09, 2013, 11:37:31 am
I didn't pose an enquiry to anyone-- the person concerned was informed of the debate on the subject on the forum and decided to make her own enquiry.

I was used as a 'go between' because in her words ' I don't do forums' and was requested to make the post on her behalf.

Strikes me these things get embroidered in the telling ! ;D --- back to the Arts and Crafts thread ! :twoface:
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Post by: Yorkie on July 09, 2013, 11:42:35 am

However, there are two possible interpretations: the original witness was only reporting a rumour, and hadn't checked it out for himself, despite saying he'd 'witnessed' it.

The other possibility is that the person to whom N. posed her enquiry was misinformed. 

Or, indeed, the third possibility!  Namely, that, as usual, those accused close ranks and rush for the whitewash and brush, or try to sweep it under the carpet.  Have they EVER admitted being in the wrong about anything? . . . . . . . . . . .   Was that a deathly silence I heard?   
:rage:
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Post by: Ian on July 09, 2013, 11:55:20 am
I suspect that option was covered under
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The other possibility is that the person to whom N. posed her enquiry was misinformed. 

But, in any case, the original 'witness' is a friend of Fester's, so it ought to be fairly straightforward to contact him and ascertain the truth of the matter.  If he did actually witness the event, then N has ammunition to return to her source and ask for further clarification.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 09, 2013, 12:02:41 pm

However, there are two possible interpretations: the original witness was only reporting a rumour, and hadn't checked it out for himself, despite saying he'd 'witnessed' it.

The other possibility is that the person to whom N. posed her enquiry was misinformed. 

Or, indeed, the third possibility!  Namely, that, as usual, those accused close ranks and rush for the whitewash and brush, or try to sweep it under the carpet.  Have they EVER admitted being in the wrong about anything? . . . . . . . . . . .   Was that a  deathly silence I heard?   
:rage:

Same one that echoes around when any searching questions are posed !
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Post by: Ian48 on July 09, 2013, 12:22:20 pm
I may be proved wrong, but the first time I read it, it struck me as nothing but some sort of urban legend.   Something about it just doesn't seem normal, no-one with an ounce of common sense would impose a fine for a  baby having dropped its dummy.   The old man with the sweet wrapper is different, he was a grown man who contravened the law, off his own bat.

People always 'definitely' know someone who has 'definitely' experienced something, but then you dig deeper and find out it was someone whom they knew who 'definitely' knew of someone, who 'definitely' knew someone that such and such had 'definitely' happened to... (repeat ad nauseam)
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Post by: Ian on July 09, 2013, 04:13:26 pm
Nothing shows up in Snopes or similar sites. And both Fester and Dave were witnesses to the person's explanation.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 09, 2013, 05:01:51 pm
Perhaxps all that obstruction of the public parts of the pavements on Mostyn Street are also not there.  Mostyn Street pavement opposite Bog Island is like an obstacle course with various goods, displays and signs just waiting to trip up or injur the passing pedestrian.  But the Street Inspector and his bosses do absolutely nothing.  Paul Evans over to you! 
 $walesflag$
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Post by: DaveR on July 09, 2013, 05:08:39 pm
I was used as a 'go between' because in her words ' I don't do forums' and was requested to make the post on her behalf.
Naturally, the Councillor in question would not wish to engage with her electorate, heaven forbid she should actually wish to communicate with the people that have the choice whether or not to vote for her.

Now, if it were me, given that 11,000 people a month look at the Forum, I would be taking full advantage of the opportunity to both communicate with the people that voted for me and be seen to be doing so.  ;)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 09, 2013, 06:19:48 pm
Good point Dave, seems like the councillor has spat her dummy out of the pram!  ;D
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Post by: snowcap on July 09, 2013, 08:31:51 pm
she wants to hope that guy with the tickets never saw it
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 09, 2013, 08:57:23 pm
 :laugh: $good$
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Post by: Fester on July 10, 2013, 12:25:11 am
Nothing shows up in Snopes or similar sites. And both Fester and Dave were witnesses to the person's explanation.

Indeed Ian, the acquaintance of mine recounted the incident to Dave and I directly.
He had witnessed the incident himself. 
Two things lead me to believe the account to be true.
1, The witness was visibly angered whilst telling Dave and I.
2, He was in years gone by, a man of the cloth, a vicar. Although that is no longer the case.... he is not given to exaggeration as far as I have known.

Finally, given some of the other incidents which Xfor were guilty of, that I KNOW to be true... coupled by my deep mistrust of politicians, on balance if I am forced to 'tick a box', then I vote for..... TRUE.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 10, 2013, 08:25:21 am
I have just been down to the local shop to get my Daily paper and noticed that the GREEN BAG collection had been completed.   This was obvious from my own bag being empty and the amount of greenery littered on the road and pavements in the roads.

I wonder if xfor would be better employed following some of the Council's own vehicles?    :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2013, 02:01:28 pm
Action group to secure funding for Llandudno
Published date: 10 July 2013 | Published by: Iwan Berry
 
AN action group has been set up to secure additional funding for Llandudno warning that if the resort “goes down, everybody else goes down”.

While the group welcomes millions of pounds of regeneration cash spent on neighbouring towns they claim the “hub” for tourism in North Wales is “in need of a lift”.

Members of Llandudno Town Council formed the new group last week, with the aim of attracting cash to improve basic facilties including pavements, car parking and seating.

It comes after other towns, such as Llandudno Junction and Colwyn Bay, have seen improved parks and shopfronts, and a new multi-million pound watersports centre.

Cllr Margaret Lyon, who will chair the group, said while she had “nothing against” recent regeneration efforts in other towns, more needed to be done to help emphasise Llandudno’s importance for tourism in the region.

She said: “The basis of us doing this is that Llandudno is looking in need of a lift, because it’s looking quite down.

“Llandudno is the hub for tourism in North Wales, and if Llandudno goes down, everybody else goes down.”

Members of the new group had inspected the town to see where improvements could be made.

“The pavements are in a terrible condition and there’s a great need to improve and regenerate the town centre, so it can keep its status as a tourism resort,” said Cllr Lyon.

“We really need to find more on-street parking places, because there aren’t enough. During the Extravaganza and the Air Show, people were parking on the grass areas on Gloddaeth Avenue, as there wasn’t a square inch of parking anywhere else.”

Cllr Lyon added that as well as improved pavements, there was also a need for improved seating and raised flowerbeds in the town centre.

Former Llandudno mayor, councillor Myra Wigzell said: “Llandudno needs some changes – the perception is we’re fine, but if they leave it too long, we will not be fine, and we are one of the most important towns on the coast – and we need to generate the tourist trade.

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/124486/action-group-to-secure-funding-for-llandudno.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/124486/action-group-to-secure-funding-for-llandudno.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on July 12, 2013, 12:13:46 am
when i was a young lad many many many moons ago i used to hate having to come with my mum to llandudno because it did,nt have a fairground like the one at rhyl.  I just loved the marine lake and the train that run around it, it was the highlight of the day out. You could hire a three wheeler bicycle  for a tanner and spend an hour riding around in a circle . She in turn loved it because she did,nt have to fork out for rides. now i,m getting on in years i can appreciate why she loved the place so much. there nothing to attract young riff raft who want to spend there money on anything they can just to get rid of it. it,s a place for the old folk  to come to in safety so why is there not somewhere for them to hang out and become young again. or is there?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 12, 2013, 07:19:38 am
Rhyl or Llandudno?
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Post by: wrex on July 13, 2013, 09:55:40 am
Just had a stroll down the prom,people on the beach already,what a shame the small beach that is not tidal is left in such a mess,litter from yesterday and there is noway the machine has cleaned that part of the beach,yet i saw it on Colwyn bays beach yestrerday and you can tell Rhos has been done,i think the first job for the new council committee should be getting our little beach maintained.
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Post by: DaveR on July 13, 2013, 10:34:51 am
I was just on the prom too, Wrex.  :) Llandudno at its best:
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Post by: viv on July 13, 2013, 09:57:31 pm
Deserted!
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Post by: Fester on July 14, 2013, 12:46:05 am
The Grand Hotel is rapidly becoming a candidate for the EYESORE'S thread.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2013, 07:22:43 am
Why, Fester?
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Post by: norman08 on July 14, 2013, 09:34:33 am
the wife said the same the other night fester looking a bit down
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2013, 10:00:56 am
In keeping with the current state of pier perhaps?

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Post by: wrex on July 14, 2013, 04:25:33 pm
Nice walk up the Happy Valley today,nice and busy so i have come to the conclusion that we don;t need a water feature that works and we don;t need a clean beach,as CCBC see Llandudno is busy without spending on it and all the parking charges they rake in from our promenade can go into looking after other tourist towns in the borough.
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Post by: DaveR on July 14, 2013, 07:29:29 pm
LLANDUDNO VISITOR BROUGHT TO SAFETY BY RNLI CREW

A man marooned at the foot of the Pen Trwyn headland on Llandudno's Great Orme was brought to safety this evening (14/7) by the resort's RNLI lifeboat crew.

Requested to launch by Holyhead Coastguard at 1815 hrs, the lifeboat set off shortly afterwards, reaching the casualty on the shore at Pigeons Cove at 1825 hrs. The man, a visitor in his early 30's had climbed down the cliffs from the Marine Drive to the shore, but had then found himself unable to climb back up again.

The relieved and appreciative casualty was quickly taken aboard the lifeboat and landed safely at the lifeboat slipway, none the worse for his experience.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2013, 07:42:21 pm
By coincidence, the inshore lifeboat and the Andy Pearce had only just made their way back from the slipway at 6pm.

The Coastguard also sped past us onto Happy Valley Road just after 6.15pm so would have no doubt arrived at the scene just before the inshore lifeboat did.
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Post by: Ian on July 14, 2013, 08:15:49 pm
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The man, a visitor in his early 30's had climbed down the cliffs from the Marine Drive to the shore, but had then found himself unable to climb back up again

Another contender for this year's Darwin awards... (http://www.darwinawards.com/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 15, 2013, 10:31:14 pm
Why, Fester?

It is looking very tatty and unloved Bri.
At least the Pier is getting investment and improvement work done.
The Grand looks very shabby now, paint wise, and pavement wise, even the roof has many slipped slates.
From any angle you care to look at it, you can see deterioration and issues requiring attention.

The Grand Hotel Scarborough, (another of the Britannia chain) is an example of what a prestigious hotel can look like.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 16, 2013, 07:11:19 am
I am afraid to say it is not just the Grand Hotel that looks that way these days, Fester.

Have you walked down Vaughan Street recently and inspected the exterior of the Imperial Hotel?

Then there is another anonymous hotel block opposite the entrance to the St Georges Hotel and next door to the Ambassador Hotel in St Georges Place. In fact, it may even belong to the Ambassador Hotel.

I guess it is just a sign of the tough economic times these businesses are now all living in.

Let's hope they all make enough this season to survive and carry out the essential repairs and repainting during this coming winter.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 16, 2013, 08:06:24 am
Not the only thing falling apart.

Yesterday I was at Bog Island and having a few minutes to idle away I had a good look at the Wooden Effigy of the White Rabbit.

My bet is that in a year's time (or possibly less) it will only be fit for firewood.  There are some massive cracks and fissures in the carving and once the Winter weather gets into them, it will be THE END.   What a sad demise for the main Alice in Wonderland character?

No doubt the rest of the characters will be suffering from similar deterioration at the moment, and will also suffer the same sad end.

One would have thought that the big investment made in the "Alice Trail" would have lasted a few more years.    I suppose it will be Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee to the rescue!   ZXZ
 Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 16, 2013, 09:04:56 am
The Queen of Hearts is looking very similar.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 20, 2013, 12:19:21 am
Just passed the Lilly on West Shore around 7.15pm and it is heaving outside, in the bar and in the restaurant.

Yet the West Shore café, which was recently successful in obtaining a drinks licence, was closed.

In my experience, when you see a business that is closed, it is because too many people are walking PAST them, rather than intending to walk INTO them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 20, 2013, 06:44:14 am
In my experience, when you see a business that is closed, it is because too many people are walking PAST them, rather than intending to walk INTO them.

Knowing that then I wonder what was the sense in recently obtaining an alcohol licence until 9pm?



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 20, 2013, 09:11:11 am
Llandudno was heaving last night, we went for a walk round about 9.45. Naturally, the pier was closed and locked up. The first thing I overheard when on Prom was 'why on earth is the pier closed when it is so busy?'.

It's a fair point.  :roll:
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Post by: Llechwedd on July 20, 2013, 11:01:55 am
Are there notes on these wooden figures explaining what hey represent etc.?  I only ask because some of the comments regarding the Mad Hatter on the prom. were hilarious the other day.  Obviously not everyone has read Alice In Wonderland.  One group decided that he must commemorate a local undertaker because he is wearing a top hat!   Aaaagh. :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on July 20, 2013, 03:08:09 pm
No-- no notes, no leaflets ---and Tweedledum and Tweedledee, along with the Cheshire Cat languishing in the council yard. The marble white rabbit is still under debate and what has happened to the trail of rabbit footprints? Sorry, but I find the Facebook page not a bit of use for tourists. They want information to hand-- not the internet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 20, 2013, 04:06:41 pm
Isn't it about time for Llandudno to give up this supposed association with Lewis Carroll and pass the honour on to Daresbury that DOES have a positive connection?

Surely there is something that Llandudno can use as a claim to fame, and that we and the Tourists could get excited about!

Answers on the back of a postage stamp, please.    ;D
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 20, 2013, 07:45:06 pm
The Victorian splendour! There should be an Extravaganza of some kind!   :twoface:
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Post by: Fester on July 21, 2013, 12:57:44 am
The Victorian splendour! There should be an Extravaganza of some kind!   :twoface:

I'll second that!  A great suggestion.... I would also propose Rides, Attractions, Sideshows, and Steam Engines.
I wonder if it will ever catch on?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2013, 06:28:55 am
I think there is someone on this very forum who would be keen on that idea! Wrex?  ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2013, 12:40:58 pm
I think we need something that will attract and entertain the whole year through.   So why not a TWELVE MONTH VICTORIAN EXTRAVAGANZA ?   Just imagine how crowded the Town would be with people thronging the Streets, nowhere to park, never ending noise, tons of litter, pickpockets and shoplifters galore -  cummon folks - LETS GO FOR IT !

 <:<:<:< +}}{-- :__)+ _))++ $bounce$ $dins$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2013, 02:50:33 pm
Would be good, litter pickers employed, more Police employed, lots of cash coming in, wonderful!  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2013, 04:12:14 pm
And a mile wide smile on Wrex's face!    ££$
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Post by: norman08 on July 23, 2013, 10:32:57 pm
can someone tell me what the 2 guys sitting inside/outside that hut by the cenotaph, school kids on an outing eating their lunch seagulls sweeping i had to go and tell the teacher to be careful while them guys just sat there ,they could clean all that seaweed away [then we could see the small amount of sand ] as when by the imperial i heard trippers asking where is the sand, :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on July 24, 2013, 10:50:33 am
Greatest job in the world that, Norman, sitting in deckchairs all day.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 24, 2013, 11:09:06 am
They can also be a useful source of information, which is what I established last Monday when I enquired where the donkeys where?
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Post by: norman08 on July 24, 2013, 11:19:43 am
what they told you they were in a field bri :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2013, 11:42:34 am
I think you will find that one attendant is the one designated to take the money and issue tickets (to ensure an accurate audit trail) for the deck chair hire, and also to deal with the public regarding compliance with the Local By-laws.
The second attendant is probably the Promenade Inspector who has the by-law enforcement duties along the length of the prom, regarding dogs, cycling, litter etc.

Occasionally they can be found chatting together about their duties and how they can give a better service to the locals and the tourists!
 ;)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 24, 2013, 11:51:15 am
what they told you they were in a field bri :laugh:

Not exactly, norman08, but the good news is the donkeys were definitely there yesterday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 24, 2013, 11:53:49 am
They were looking over the gate by the golf links as we passed about1/2 hour ago. ;D
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Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2013, 12:14:29 pm
They were looking over the gate by the golf links as we passed about1/2 hour ago. ;D

Or go to Aldi!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2013, 11:00:31 pm
The donkeys were operating on the grass by the play area on West shore today. Seemed to be doing quite well too.
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Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2013, 09:06:40 am
Calm before the Storm this morning? iPhone photo.
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Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2013, 11:57:12 am
Good to see in hte NWWN that plans are rolling along to replace the rather horrible 1960s Prom Shelters with more ornate ones, using the original Victorian designs. $good$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 25, 2013, 12:07:57 pm
That plan looks just like to one already preserved on Deganwy Prom.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 25, 2013, 05:07:11 pm
Went for a drive round Marine Drive this afternoon, taking the long route to Cafe Dewi for our coffee and Lemon Meringue Tart.    Half way round at the area opposite the Rest and Be Thankful, there was a whole Film Crew with the full size catering coach and dressing rooms.  An enquiry revealed that they were filming for some Children's programme, but don't know which one.

Hope that CCBC screwed a big location fee out of them!    :D
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Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2013, 07:26:18 pm
This is interesting. Marc Rees did a great job with the Adain Avion event last year. I am looking forward to the Prom showing of Jaws and the Music of John Williams concert especially.

Recreating the past in 2013: new arts festival will give cultural bite to resort
25 Jul 2013 10:49

A major new arts festival with a contemporary twist is aimed at giving a resort a major out of season tourism  boost.

Llawn 01 will take Llandudno’s Victorian heritage as a theme but will use contemporary performance artists to bring it to life.

It’s the brainchild of Mostyn Estates managing director Edward Hiller, who said the aim is to boost business in the resort.

Creative director for the September 20-22 event is Marc Rees, who last year caused a buzz when he brought his Adain Avian aeroplane fuselage conceptual art to the town.

“Adain Avian attracted about 17,000 visitors which was very encouraging, and we hope and anticipate that Llawn 01 should surpass that,” he said.

He will use replica Victorian bathing machines like the ones that used to line Llandudno’s North Shore as focal points for the event.

And several of the town’s empty buildings like the Tudno Castle Hotel, historic Tabernacl Chapel,  and the former Royal Air Force Association Club will  be used as exhibition spaces.

“There will be an eclectic mix of about 20 events over the weekend. For instance, for Tabernacl Chapel  I have commissioned Eddie Ladd, who is one of the leading performance artists in Wales, and she will recontextualise the chapel’s history referring back to when the famous preacher Rev Lewis Valentine was minister there.

“She will recreate the history of the chapel in a contemporary way, and harpist  Helen Wynne-Parry will work with her to do that,” he explained.

Each of the seven bathing machines will have a theme. One will be occupied by artist Anthony Dewhurst who will create Victorian style portraits of visitors.

“And my own bathing machine will be a time machine which will bring two Victorian time travellers to Llandudno who will be walking through the town trying to fit in with today’s visitors,” he chuckled.

The festival will climax with a pop-up cinema on the seafront showing the film Jaws, which will be preceded by a concert featuring theme music from films by the composer John Williams.


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/recreating-past-2013-new-arts-5318546 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/recreating-past-2013-new-arts-5318546)
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Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2013, 07:53:03 pm
Going back to Victorian times: plans for promenade shelters based on 1899 design
25 Jul 2013 10:32

Promenade shelters which have been described as concrete monstrosities could be demolished and replaced with Victorian style buildings.

The shelters on Llandudno’s North Shore were 1960s replacements for the original structures which dated from the late 19th century.

But Conwy County Council officers are recommending they should be replaced by something more in keeping with the town’s Victorian heritage.

“Llandudno’s major assets are its heritage and Victorian character,” said the council’s tourism chief Jim Jones.

“Continuing with the image of Victorian Llandudno will realise the resort’s potential, heighten its profile and boost tourism, encouraging the town to thrive for generations to come.

“This project is aimed at enhancing the visitor experience of Llandudno, leading to an increased footfall on the promenade and in the town centre allowing for more spending in the retail outlets.”

The scheme has been enthusiastically received by landowners Mostyn Estates, Llandudno Town Council, the town’s Hospitality Association and Development Partnership.

And and the town council and Mostyn Estates have both pledged to make substantial contributions to the cost of seven new shelters, with the initial cost for each estimated at around £50,000.

Mayor Gary Burchett said: “Getting rid of those concrete monstrosities and replacing them with replicas of the Victorian originals will make the North Parade look more attractive.

“We are very supportive of the scheme and will make a substantial contribition towards the costs.”

And Mostyn Estates managing director Edward Hiller said in addition to offering to make a financial contribution, the company had been able to supply the county council with the plans for the original shelters.

“We found plans dated 1899 in a desk drawer in the offices and these will be used as the template for the design of the new shelters which will mean they will look pretty authentic.

“We are prepared to put money towards the cost of the shelter and it would be good if other businesses or private individuals in the town were willing to match us pound for pound and do the same,” he added.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/going-back-victorian-times-plans-5318345 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/going-back-victorian-times-plans-5318345)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 25, 2013, 10:17:56 pm
 Relatively modern architecture replaced by a Victorian design, Stewbow won't be happy with that, but us, quote "sad moning oil codgers" will be delighted to see the improvements!  ;D  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 25, 2013, 11:09:29 pm
It sounds a good idea in principle as long as it is practical in this modern day but I've forgotten the reason why the previous Victorian style shelters were replaced by these "concrete monstrosities"  as I presume Mostyn Estates had to approve of the change at that time.

Mostyn Estates managing director Edward Hiller said in addition to offering to make a financial contribution, the company had been able to supply the county council with the plans for the original shelters.

“We found plans dated 1899 in a desk drawer in the offices and these will be used as the template for the design of the new shelters which will mean they will look pretty authentic.

“We are prepared to put money towards the cost of the shelter and it would be good if other businesses or private individuals in the town were willing to match us pound for pound and do the same,”

That's a very generous gesture by the Estate but as they would own the shelters shouldn't they pay for them in full?   
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Post by: Blongb on July 25, 2013, 11:15:56 pm
That's a very generous gesture by the Estate but as they would own the shelters shouldn't they pay for them in full?   

Here here   D)
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Post by: wrex on July 26, 2013, 06:33:03 am
Not sure the new shelters will blend in with the windfarm in the background.
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Post by: norman08 on July 26, 2013, 09:26:04 am
but wrex you can,t always see the turbines but you can always see that very victorian venue cymru ,yes the one thats wasting OUR money,and look towards the orme and look at the lovely pier pavilion ,
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 26, 2013, 10:02:56 am
Not sure the new shelters will blend in with the windfarm in the background.

In a few years it will be replaced with a Victorian wind farm!  :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 26, 2013, 12:03:28 pm
CCBC lease the Prom from Mostyn Estates and are responsible for maintenance as part of the lease.
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Post by: Mikethewatch on July 26, 2013, 12:42:28 pm
Not sure the new shelters will blend in with the windfarm in the background.
But they will...
By the time CCBC has altered the designs ( like the skip by the sea) they will probably look more like those big galvanised commercial wheelie bins, fitting in nicely.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 26, 2013, 12:49:09 pm
Not sure the new shelters will blend in with the windfarm in the background.
But they will...
By the time CCBC has altered the designs ( like the skip by the sea) they will probably look more like those big galvanised commercial wheelie bins, fitting in nicely.

 L0L _))*
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Post by: Tosh on July 26, 2013, 01:42:33 pm
There's a more or less original shelter by the paddlig pool at Craig Y Don and the council hasn't looked after that one.
The one at Deganwy is in the same state.
The circular tram terminus at West Shore is the very same.
The glass and concrete carbuncle masquerading as a modern theatre on the same stretch of road where all the Victorian hotels are.
The refusal by the council to allow planning permission nearby for a life boat station which could potentially save lives at sea.
Where do these people come from whereby they don't look after what they've got and then try to impress us by wasting money on similar projects.
By whose authority do they decide these things, oh sorry, it's by our authority isn't it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 26, 2013, 02:39:02 pm
CCBC lease the Prom from Mostyn Estates and are responsible for maintenance as part of the lease.

But this isn't maintenance Dave, it's demolition and a new build to replace the concrete shelters.    My memory of the previous Victorian style shelters is rather vague but I seem to recall that they were continually damaged by the sea and also vandalism and those two threats still exist today.   Weren't those concrete shelters built around the same time as the concrete carbuncle that was called Boots was built and declared "an instant success"  by George Hiller Snr  only to be demolished within 25 years.
I think that someone also posted on the forum that Mostyn Estates  were going to replace the street lamps on the Promenade with Victorian styled ones.  They come up with ideas but I suppose that they expect someone else to pick up the bill for them too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 26, 2013, 05:50:59 pm
There's no direct benefit to Mostyn Estates in replacing the shelters and it's not their idea to do it. If a financial contribution from them towards the project is forthcoming and enables the scheme to go ahead, then that's a good thing surely? A degree of pragmatism is a always a good idea, I find!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 26, 2013, 08:02:40 pm
Just been passed the town beach again,omg what a mess it looks like a dump not a beach,it has to be cleaned everyday during the kids holidays,its filthy.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 26, 2013, 08:04:53 pm
Fire in Moorings Holiday Flats Abbey Road tonight, fire people been there over an hour.
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Post by: DaveR on July 26, 2013, 08:31:18 pm
Fire in Moorings Holiday Flats Abbey Road tonight, fire people been there over an hour.
Any pics, Nem, I'm not in town at the moment?
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Post by: DaveR on July 26, 2013, 11:08:37 pm
I think this may cause a serious rise in Wrex's blood pressure!
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Post by: Fester on July 27, 2013, 12:11:43 am
That's just as bad as all the posters for Colwyn Bay Prom Day, that were displayed........ all over LLANDUDNO!!  DOH.  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 27, 2013, 07:33:54 am
What is the constant banging I can hear this morning?

Is it coming from out at sea?
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Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2013, 07:56:56 am
What is the constant banging I can hear this morning?

Is it coming from out at sea?
It's pile driving for the Wind Farm. You can hear it quite clearly at certain times, especially when on the Pier.
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Post by: Gwynant on July 27, 2013, 08:02:34 am
                I was cycling on the prom earlier this morning Bri, and the noise was very noticeable and is definitely coming from the Gwynt-y-Mor Windfarm area, so I reckon they must have hit some harder than usual resistance with their piling operations. The visibility was very good and there was a lot of activity out there, and you could see the floating hotel ship right on the horizon, as well as various cranes, rigs etc.
                On another note, I seem to remember a post from you last year about a very interesting evening visiting the Penmaenmawr quarries, and I'm sure I have seen an advert in the NWWN or the Pioneer for the same trip this year but I can't seem to get any info on it. Has anybody else heard anything on the subject?
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Post by: Gwynant on July 27, 2013, 08:16:06 am
                 Here is a photo of the maritime activity in the windfarm area earlier today. As I was cycling back towards the pier I also saw the "green belt" which runs along the stony area. Even the sandcastles on the "beach area" by the boating jetties were covered in it.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 27, 2013, 08:19:20 am
Fire in Moorings Holiday Flats Abbey Road tonight, fire people been there over an hour.
Any pics, Nem, I'm not in town at the moment?

Sorry Dave-- didn't think that it would be Kosher to go across with a camera as all the residents were scattered all over the pavement and I thought I might have the race relations people on my back !

Mainly smoke and water damage and the fire people had to break in, so doors etc.
No one was hurt, that was the main thing to me.
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Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2013, 08:28:33 am
Sorry Dave-- didn't think that it would be Kosher to go across with a camera as all the residents were scattered all over the pavement and I thought I might have the race relations people on my back !

Mainly smoke and water damage and the fire people had to break in, so doors etc.
No one was hurt, that was the main thing to me.
No worries.  :) Fortunate that no-one was injured, as you say.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 27, 2013, 08:38:36 am
On another note, I seem to remember a post from you last year about a very interesting evening visiting the Penmaenmawr quarries, and I'm sure I have seen an advert in the NWWN or the Pioneer for the same trip this year but I can't seem to get any info on it. Has anybody else heard anything on the subject?

Gwynant, I have no info on that but this is on in Penmaenmawr later this morning.

Saturday 27th July 10.30am - 4.30pm - Council for British Archaeology - An unique opportunity to witness Dave Chapman making Bronze Age tools and weapons such as found above Penmaenmawr - New York Museum, Bangor Road, Penmaenmawr - Also visit the Graiglwyd Axe Factory' at the Museum. Admission free. Further details at www.archaeologyfestival.org.uk (http://www.archaeologyfestival.org.uk)
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Post by: Llechwedd on July 27, 2013, 11:43:18 am
I was woken up at 7.00 a.m. by the thumping this morning.  It must be a machine doing it as it is regular rhythm.  Wonder what it is doing to the sea bed.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 27, 2013, 11:54:12 am
I was woken up at 7.00 a.m. by the thumping this morning.  It must be a machine doing it as it is regular rhythm.  Wonder what it is doing to the sea bed.

Someone told me it was a couple of Irish Navvies in diving suits with pick-axes and shovels!    _))*
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Post by: wrex on July 27, 2013, 12:46:31 pm
It should make everybodies blood boil,but nobody gives a damn,ive not heard anyone complain so we get what we deserve.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 27, 2013, 01:53:33 pm
Difficult to complain if you're not disturbed by the problem.  Don't notice any thumping where I am in PB, otherwise you know I would be one of the first in line!    ZXZ
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Post by: Nemesis on July 27, 2013, 02:21:22 pm
I was woken up at 7.00 a.m. by the thumping this morning.  It must be a machine doing it as it is regular rhythm.  Wonder what it is doing to the sea bed.

Someone told me it was a couple of Irish Navvies in diving suits with pick-axes and shovels!    _))*

A burial at sea? _))* _))*
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Post by: Linda on July 27, 2013, 11:49:40 pm
We overlook the sea  and are high up. Did have to close the windows during the night a couple of times , think it was said they had hit bedrock. seems to last roughly 30mins each time. Sounds eirie,  especially if you look across and the sea is misty and calm. If it was going on all night I think more folk would complain.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 28, 2013, 08:27:21 am
Sorry Yorkie,im on about the dump which is the town beach,not the windmills.Complaining is not something the town does,people think i enjoy it,believe me if we had a nice beach or even a clean beach i don;t think the hospitality association or the hoteliers would notice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 28, 2013, 11:27:04 am
Sorry Yorkie,im on about the dump which is the town beach,not the windmills.Complaining is not something the town does,people think i enjoy it,believe me if we had a nice beach or even a clean beach i don;t think the hospitality association or the hoteliers would notice.

Hey don't tar everyone with the same brush :rage:
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Post by: Blongb on July 28, 2013, 12:22:57 pm
Sorry Yorkie,im on about the dump which is the town beach,not the windmills.Complaining is not something the town does,people think i enjoy it,believe me if we had a nice beach or even a clean beach i don;t think the hospitality association or the hoteliers would notice.


What a stupid comment Wrex. If it hadn't of been for the Hoteliers the rubble dumped on the beach would have been put right up to the pier wall. I've lost count of the number of letters of complaint I've written to C.C.B.C. and when that hasn't worked written and received satisfaction from our A.M. and M.P. So try thinking a little harder next time.   >>>
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Post by: Nemesis on July 28, 2013, 03:56:13 pm
If it hadn't been for the hoteliers the dreaded demo would have gone ahead. I should think the police, council and Mostyns finally got sick of the dozens of E- Mails which were thrown at them.

Engage brain------
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Post by: wrex on July 28, 2013, 06:09:39 pm
If e-mails are thrown at the papers and the gogarth county and town councillors they may make sure the beach is cleaned daily at this sunny and busy time,can;t say i have ever heard of any complaints from anyone re-the beach and if complaints have been made no notice has been taken,at the end of the day its not my buisness that is effected by the dump of a beach i just feel sorry for tourists and locals thats all.
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Post by: Blongb on July 28, 2013, 06:38:40 pm
The Beach was ruined when Mr Barker was the C.E.O. of C.C.B.C was allowed by the Council to choose the cheapest option to supposedly protect the town from rising sea levels allegedly cased by Global Warming. Why he wasn't strung up from the nearest lamp post is beyond me. One man allowed to make a catastrophic error of judgement and then to add insult to injury we paid him a bonus when he finished his contract.

Seaweed can come in on any tide at any time of the year. This months green addition was in my opinion cleaned up in a very thoroughly and expeditiously by C.C.B.C.
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Post by: Fester on July 28, 2013, 07:29:28 pm
If it hadn't been for the hoteliers the dreaded demo would have gone ahead. I should think the police, council and Mostyns finally got sick of the dozens of E- Mails which were thrown at them.

Engage brain------

Nem, no disrespect, but I think you will find that the EDL/NWA Demo was snuffed out by other means, far removed from Llandudno Hoteliers.   ;) ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 28, 2013, 08:14:46 pm
Althought ive made stupid comments i have to stand by what i see when i walk past the little bit of beach we have and it is always a mess,no pride,no commitment ,there will have been 30 councillors and guests stood within 20 feet of that beach this morning and i bet not one of them even thinks theres a problem,let alone thinking of doing anythink about it,just leave it as it is.
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Post by: norman08 on July 28, 2013, 08:50:45 pm
just a shame them seagulls didn,t sh?? on them councilers as they all rushed to the hotel  for the free nosh well us taxpayers pay. _))*
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Post by: wrex on July 28, 2013, 09:16:59 pm
Norm,if they actually stood up and showed us they really cared about issues,then they are due their only freebie,but not one seems to be going to the press and fighting for anything,we see the issues on here ,they must have a look,but no,most are there for their party or self esteem and it stinks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 29, 2013, 08:33:47 am
If it hadn't been for the hoteliers the dreaded demo would have gone ahead. I should think the police, council and Mostyns finally got sick of the dozens of E- Mails which were thrown at them.

Engage brain------

Nem, no disrespect, but I think you will find that the EDL/NWA Demo was snuffed out by other means, far removed from Llandudno Hoteliers.   ;) ;)

You stick to your opinion-- I'll stick to mine. !! :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 29, 2013, 09:24:30 pm
Yeah, I think on this occasion, I'd rather stick with the facts.  Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on July 31, 2013, 07:31:35 pm
We the electorate put 22 Tory councillors onto the county council at the last election. Trouble was although they were the largest single group all the other parties formed a coalition against them and as in any democracy, apart from Egypt, when you are in the majority you can prevent that group from doing what needs to be done.  $walesflag$ Long live local democracy
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 03, 2013, 08:09:14 am
DaveR must be on holiday or he is busy finding out who is the new tennant for the Tudno Castle or is he the new vice on the hospitality assoc,where ever he is this is all good news.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 03, 2013, 10:24:53 am
I bet he's enjoying a nice stay in some lovely hotel or having a delicious breakfast somewhere, all in the name of research of course.    It's a hard job but someone has to do it.        $good$    Z** 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on August 03, 2013, 02:08:56 pm
Re the Conwy Council, aren't there 59 clls.  So if 37 don't agree with 22, why is that not democratic ?
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Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2013, 08:13:04 pm
I'm glad I have been missed! I'm currently staying in the exotic locale of Denbigh but will be back on Monday.
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Post by: Blongb on August 03, 2013, 08:59:35 pm
Re the Conwy Council, aren't there 59 clls.  So if 37 don't agree with 22, why is that not democratic ?

Well spotted Cambrian I got my Knickers in a twist and was referring to the Council make-up before the last election's. largest grouping now are the Independents, which is very democratic.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on August 07, 2013, 07:01:37 pm
Likely to be busy and possibly a bit congested at times tomorrow in and around Holy Trinity Church. The car park will be closed to the general public until later in the afternoon because of a military funeral at 1.45pm.
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Post by: Big Alan on August 14, 2013, 12:55:45 pm
Me and Paula hoping to come to Llandudno tomorrow until Sunday but struggling to find somewhere on the Internet. Any ideas folks? We are a nice couple, honest! ZXZ
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Post by: FatAndy on August 14, 2013, 04:00:35 pm
Me and Paula hoping to come to Llandudno tomorrow until Sunday but struggling to find somewhere on the Internet. Any ideas folks? We are a nice couple, honest! ZXZ

The Kendrick has a couple of rooms spare - http://www.thekendrick.com/ (http://www.thekendrick.com/)

No idea what it's like and it's a bit out of the way but it's got reasonable reviews on TripAdvisor.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 14, 2013, 08:44:11 pm
Actually..... I noticed that the MAJORITY of hotels I walked past today had vacancies.

To me that was indicative of several problems with the economy this year.
Whilst you will find that the flea-ridden cess-pit which masquerades as a Holiday Camp, (Haven, Prestatyn) is completely full.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 14, 2013, 11:13:07 pm
It looked good when I saw it in 'Holiday on the Buses' but that was filmed in 1973!  :o
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Post by: Trojan on August 15, 2013, 02:14:40 am
It looked good when I saw it in 'Holiday on the Buses' but that was filmed in 1973!  :o

Alex Munro had a part in that film:

http://youtu.be/D5K8KJ0Gx-o (http://youtu.be/D5K8KJ0Gx-o)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 15, 2013, 07:24:50 am
We watched that film a few weeks ago and spotted Alex Munro! We went to have a look at the bridge used in the film at Rhuddlan, the scenes where the luggage flew off the sidecar in to the river! We enjoyed the film but I know that film critics don't, what do they know?  &shake&
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Post by: Big Alan on August 15, 2013, 07:58:09 am
Thanks FatAndy, Paula got us into Arvon House for Thursday and Friday, we'll have a mooch around for somewhere for Saturday night while we are walking around town. If anyone is out on Upper Mostyn over the next three evenings I'll buy you a bevvy! I'll be the tall short haired Scouser in a black jacket :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on August 16, 2013, 12:42:45 pm
I've just been reading about the new traffic offences coming into force today and one is "Being in the wrong lane and pushing into a queue on a roundabout" (per the BBC News website).  Hopefully North Wales' Finest will now be patrolling the Links roundabout on Conwy Road every Saturday as it should be a decent money spinner at £100 a pop.  And maybe then people might start to realise that just because you drive an Audi or a Land Rover it doesn't mean you're exempt from sitting in the queue with the rest of us  :-*.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 16, 2013, 01:05:20 pm
What I would like to see is how the evidence for pushing into a queue at a roundabout will be assembled and presented.  To my mind it would need video footage taken from half a dozen different angles.  Or one copper's word against the driver!   ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on August 16, 2013, 01:35:54 pm
It would be the copper's word plus the word of the person who's just been cut up by an anti-social ignoramus.  And let's face it on a Saturday afternoon there'd be no shortage of witnesses in the queue who'd be quite willing to testify if it meant Mr or Mrs Land Rover getting their just desserts, I know I'd be more than willing to testify  ;).
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Post by: SDQ on August 16, 2013, 03:15:03 pm
I know I'd be more than willing to testify.


You'd be prepared to testify in court just because a car was accused of changing lanes too near to a roundabout???  The world is going crazy & some people are in need of a reality check!   &shake&
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Post by: Ian on August 16, 2013, 03:18:59 pm
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It would be the copper's word plus the word of the person who's just been cut up by an anti-social ignoramus.

Hmmm.  IME it's far from being the landed gentry who are utterly clueless drivers.  For instance, the numbers who seem incapable of realising that the initial signal on entering any roundabout needs to be changed prior to leaving, so that following and emerging traffic knows your intentions is enormous. Indicating, positioning and simply thinking about other drivers is markedly lacking across the driver spectrum.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 16, 2013, 03:20:20 pm
It's easy to be in the wrong lane if you don't know the area, if it happens to me I indicate and wait for someone to let me in. The problem is when you are waiting in a queue and someone shoots past and tries to force their way in, a telling off from a copper, if he sees it should be enough really!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on August 16, 2013, 04:03:49 pm
I know I'd be more than willing to testify.


You'd be prepared to testify in court just because a car was accused of changing lanes too near to a roundabout???  The world is going crazy & some people are in need of a reality check!   &shake&

It probably wouldn't go to court.  The idea is that the police can issue fixed penalty notices but the offender has the right to take it to court if they so wish.  I'd imagine they'd be less inclined to do that if they knew that there were witnesses prepared to speak out and therefore be more willing to accept the punishment.

As for would I go to court if it got that far.  Too right I would.  I've had far too many nears misses on that roundabout when some idiot has cut across me at the last second and almost forced me into the wall.  If I could I make an example of just one of them in future I'd happily crawl across broken glass to reach the courthouse!

p.s. I don't see it as "changing lanes too near to a roundabout".  I see it as deliberately jumping the queue and not giving the slightest concern about the safety of other road users.  And if you can't see those enormous arrows painted on the road as you approach the Links which quite clearly show the right hand lane is for right turns only then you shouldn't be allowed to drive until you've passed an eye test.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 16, 2013, 04:48:01 pm
You don't have to push in on the Links roundabout coming into town on a busy Saturday or any other day for that matter. Drive down the empty right lane, signalling right. Drive completely around the roundabout until you reach the exit you require, then signal and manoeuvre. Totally legal and no threat of a £100 fine and no 3 points on your Licence either.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 16, 2013, 05:43:21 pm
Very true!  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 16, 2013, 06:04:13 pm
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And if you can't see those enormous arrows painted on the road as you approach the Links which quite clearly show the right hand lane is for right turns only then you shouldn't be allowed to drive until you've passed an eye test.

It depends on how long the queue in the LH lane is, of course. The first RH only arrow doesn't appear until after the road signs directing people to the Baths, etc. and is level with the traffic light warning sign.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 16, 2013, 06:09:58 pm
I've just been reading about the new traffic offences coming into force today and one is "Being in the wrong lane and pushing into a queue on a roundabout" (per the BBC News website).  Hopefully North Wales' Finest will now be patrolling the Links roundabout on Conwy Road every Saturday as it should be a decent money spinner at £100 a pop.  And maybe then people might start to realise that just because you drive an Audi or a Land Rover it doesn't mean you're exempt from sitting in the queue with the rest of us  :-*.

What about coming from Colwyn Bay and leaving  the A55 at the Black Cat roundabout  intending to go to Llandudno Junction?    There are two lanes to go into and if you take the right hand lane,  when you decide to go and indicate  going to Llandudno Junction you then have to cross the left hand lane which can be dangerous and now possibly illegal.
This happens quite a lot at present but there are no sign posts advising drivers which lane to go in.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 16, 2013, 06:26:42 pm
A55 from CB to Llandudno Junction at Black Cat is almost a 270 right turn, so you indicate Right, and take the RH lane until just past the slip road onto the A55, when you indicate Left and move across, often in the gap left by traffic joining the A55 at that point.  That's still perfectly legal and appropriate, according to the Highway Code. .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on August 16, 2013, 07:06:09 pm
My favourite.
Drivers who drive down A55 slip roads at 40MPH then expect cars on inside lane to take avoiding action as they join!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 16, 2013, 07:17:58 pm
Yes, there seems to be a marked inability to match speeds when joining motorways or expressways. 
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 16, 2013, 07:42:19 pm
My favourite.
Drivers who drive down A55 slip roads at 40MPH then expect cars on inside lane to take avoiding action as they join!

Agreed! Happened to me the other week! Horns work well on my cars!  $angry$  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on August 16, 2013, 08:18:39 pm
I think people driving to the tune of sat navs and not observing the signs at the side of the road does not help. Penrhyn Hill downwards has a sign to indicate which lane to be in but many cut across the roundabout to enter Llandudno Road......it happened to me again yesterday but lucky I know what to expect and managed to avoid.

Having driven in Germany......drivers approaching a junction on the Autobahn move to the outside lane to allow cars on without having to think about moving out, it is just part of their natural driving pattern at some fairly high speeds......but they did come 2nd in 1945! 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on August 16, 2013, 08:43:30 pm
A55 from CB to Llandudno Junction at Black Cat is almost a 270 right turn, so you indicate Right, and take the RH lane until just past the slip road onto the A55, when you indicate Left and move across, often in the gap left by traffic joining the A55 at that point.  That's still perfectly legal and appropriate, according to the Highway Code. .


Whilst I agree with you in principle, when they originally built the road there was a solid white line between the left and right hand lanes at that junction signifying you should be in the left hand lane earlier than at normal roundabouts, possibly to ensure you were in the left lane early enough for cars entering from the A55 slip road from Conwy to be aware of your intentions. As 99% of cars leaving the A55 from CB are going to Llandudno I tend to use the left hand lane if I'm going to Junction but obviously remain alert to the possibility a car may actually be heading for Junction.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 17, 2013, 08:15:45 am
The roundabout that flummoxes  everyone without exception IME is the one between Staples and the Mostyn Champneys park.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 17, 2013, 11:26:21 am
The road area isn't big enough for large vehicles or duff drivers!!--- So everyone drives over it !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 17, 2013, 04:10:40 pm
We have the useless roundabout at the junction of North Parade and Church Walks. It was put in as part of the abortive plan to reintroduce the Street Trams along with the blocking of Mostyn Street at Bog Island, where Conway Road joins.

The trouble is we have a completely incompetent highways department who have totally lost the ability to organise any sort of cohesive traffic flow.

Add to that the appalling lack of adequate road signage, 2 quick examples.

The way up to the top of the Orme from Upper Mostyn Street, resulting in over a hundred cars a day turning off Ty Gwyn Road and getting stuck at the top of Hill Terrace with nowhere to go. 

At the junction of North Parade and Church Walks, no signage to inform visitors of the one way Toll Road around the Orme, resulting in thousands of cars a day during peak times, turning around at the Toll Gate and causing chaos as they try and get back into town.  $angry$  $angry$  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 17, 2013, 05:35:35 pm
I know I'd be more than willing to testify.


You'd be prepared to testify in court just because a car was accused of changing lanes too near to a roundabout???  The world is going crazy & some people are in need of a reality check!   &shake&

It probably wouldn't go to court.  The idea is that the police can issue fixed penalty notices but the offender has the right to take it to court if they so wish.  I'd imagine they'd be less inclined to do that if they knew that there were witnesses prepared to speak out and therefore be more willing to accept the punishment.

As for would I go to court if it got that far.  Too right I would.  I've had far too many nears misses on that roundabout when some idiot has cut across me at the last second and almost forced me into the wall.  If I could I make an example of just one of them in future I'd happily crawl across broken glass to reach the courthouse!

p.s. I don't see it as "changing lanes too near to a roundabout".  I see it as deliberately jumping the queue and not giving the slightest concern about the safety of other road users.  And if you can't see those enormous arrows painted on the road as you approach the Links which quite clearly show the right hand lane is for right turns only then you shouldn't be allowed to drive until you've passed an eye test.

There is a correct proceedure for signaling and the use of roundabouts.  Details can be found in Roadcraft, which is used as the instruction manual for the Police and also most Advanced Driving Groups such as the I.A.M. and RoSPA.  I have been a Tutor for both of the latter and think that everyone should take ( and) pass the course within, say, two years of passing their driving test.   I believe it would make a great difference to the overall driving standards on our roads.

As far as defending a FPN is concerned, can any of us afford the time and cost to defend it?  It is easier to pay up.   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 17, 2013, 05:43:55 pm
To be fair, the Toll Road is signposted in various places, including Mostyn St and the Prom, with a repeater notice just past the Grand Hotel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 17, 2013, 05:57:03 pm
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The way up to the top of the Orme from Upper Mostyn Street, resulting in over a hundred cars a day turning off Ty Gwyn Road and getting stuck at the top of Hill Terrace with nowhere to go.

Well, the road up to the summit is continuous, and if they choose to turn off that road, without knowing where it's leading, then I'm not sure you can blame the highways dept.


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At the junction of North Parade and Church Walks, no signage to inform visitors of the one way Toll Road around the Orme, resulting in thousands of cars a day during peak times, turning around at the Toll Gate and causing chaos as they try and get back into town. 

Er...I don't think it's 'thousands';  more like 30 at most, I believe.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 17, 2013, 07:07:58 pm
We have the useless roundabout at the junction of North Parade and Church Walks. It was put in as part of the abortive plan to reintroduce the Street Trams along with the blocking of Mostyn Street at Bog Island, where Conway Road joins.

The trouble is we have a completely incompetent highways department who have totally lost the ability to organise any sort of cohesive traffic flow.

Add to that the appalling lack of adequate road signage, 2 quick examples.

The way up to the top of the Orme from Upper Mostyn Street, resulting in over a hundred cars a day turning off Ty Gwyn Road and getting stuck at the top of Hill Terrace with nowhere to go. 

At the junction of North Parade and Church Walks, no signage to inform visitors of the one way Toll Road around the Orme, resulting in thousands of cars a day during peak times, turning around at the Toll Gate and causing chaos as they try and get back into town.  $angry$  $angry$  $angry$

What a load of tosh you are talking!  Your numbers are absolutely ridiculous.  Any of the chaps at the Toll Gate can give you reasonably accurate figures for those who choose to go round Marine Drive and those who turn round and return to town.

There are adequate signs warning of the Toll Road but some people are very good at not reading them or deciding that they may manage to get round without paying. 

It is also well to remember that Llandudno was never built to take as much traffic as we experience and we are lucky that we are able to accommodate the majority of it in a fairly reasonable fashion.  If you have better traffic management ideas, I'm sure the Council Department will be delighted to discuss them with you.  So as they say in the very best circles,
"Put up, or shut up!"
 :rage: >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 17, 2013, 08:58:09 pm
Oh I'm not so sure, ...I turned back from the Toll Road over 4,000 times myself, only yesterday.  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 18, 2013, 05:53:44 pm
Er...I don't think it's 'thousands';  more like 30 at most, I believe.

 
I did stipulate at peak times Ian i.e. over Bank Holiday week ends and if you think it's only 30 cars that get it wrong, please come and sit in my front garden and count them for yourself. It's a lot more than 30 per hour despite what Yorkie might think.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 18, 2013, 06:11:06 pm


If you have better traffic management ideas, I'm sure the Council Department will be delighted to discuss them with you.  So as they say in the very best circles,
"Put up, or shut up!"


The Council has never listened to anything we had to say to them before, so what makes you think they would listen to us now?

The proof of the pudding is in clearly there for a blind man to see in Mostyn Street any busy day with traffic backed up to the Carlton or in the other direction, with what started this in the first place, traffic backed up Conway Road.

Llandudno's traffic flow is a joke and it's road signage is abysmal.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 18, 2013, 06:42:20 pm
There is plenty of traffic returning from the Happy Valley Road, viz:

Cars unable to park
Cars that have parked and now moving
Cars who went down the road without knowing where they were going
Cars from the Ski Slope
Cars from the Cable cars
Cars from the cafe
Cars from Happy Valley gardens
And, the cars who did not want to pay the toll.

How about telling us how many of each group you have counted?

In the period prior to my retirement I worked for CCBC and was, in fact, responsible for the efficient operation of Marine Drive, and the Tolls.  I had plenty of data on all aspects of its operation, especially the problems caused by those arriving at the toll and then wishing to return to town.  However the main problem at peak periods was found to be in the area of the HV Car Park where congestion occurred because of the restricted space for manoevering, and the general melee of drivers vying for a parking space.  Nuff said.

I return again to my main point - the town was never built to accommodate the volume of traffic we get.   As a comparison have a look at other resort towns such as Bournemouth.

Finally, if you have a good idea, the Council will listen.  Just get it properly documented and submitted.  And, most important, that the project is viable!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on August 18, 2013, 07:40:54 pm
It might just be that I'm a year older and my reactions are getting slower but this Summer I'm sure I've had more occasions when attempting to get back and forth from the Orme along the front has been been met with complete disreagard for personal safety by pedestrians trying to cross the road to get to the shops from the promenade. Early this afternoon I've had what must have been a three or four year old with parents some 10 yards behind just run out in front of me from between cars and a group of hard cases who think they are bigger and stronger than a car just walk out in front of me and expect me to do an emergency stop so they can cross just yards from the pedestrian crossings. Some might say its part and parcel of living here but I'm not sure the police or my insurance company would agree if I did'nt manage to stop in time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 18, 2013, 08:24:02 pm
We are all aware that pushbikes are now allowed to be ridden on the promenade on a permanent basis.

However, this afternoon we saw a couple come onto the promenade near the Cenotaph with battery-powered bikes, mount them and ride them down the promenade.

Are they allowed?


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 18, 2013, 09:47:00 pm
Great to hear Llandudno band Catfish and the Bottlemen on radio one all last week,i think they are going to be big and a credit to Llandudno,sorry if im in the wrong location here but we will be disscusing these boys again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 19, 2013, 07:02:21 am
However, this afternoon we saw a couple come onto the promenade near the Cenotaph with battery-powered bikes, mount them and ride them down the promenade.

Are they allowed?

The whole question of Electric Bikes is a very grey area at the moment.  Tax and Insurance would be a good idea, at least there would be some revenue generation and Cover in the case of accidents.  Some Invalide Scooters have to pay so why not Electric Bikes?    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 19, 2013, 07:39:28 am
It is an interesting point, Yorkie, because battery-powered mobility scooters are allowed on the promenade so why not battery-powered bicycles?

But where is the line drawn before petrol-driven scooters and petrol-driven mopeds start appearing on the promenade?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on August 19, 2013, 03:28:35 pm
Battery powered cycles are governed to a max. 15 mph. in Britain, An ordinary cycle can easily exceed this speed.  (*)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 19, 2013, 05:22:41 pm
having just spent a lovely w/end in stratford u avon, wish someone from our council would take a visit ,easy one was system, clean ,flower beds filled with all colours, except for the one way ,the other things i can remember what llandudno used to be like ,oh yes when it was llan council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on August 19, 2013, 06:22:46 pm
Perhaps the quality of councillor was different then, now they just seem like politicians.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 20, 2013, 08:24:49 am
A very large crane is preparing to undertake work on the roof of the Tudno Castle Hotel this morning:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on August 20, 2013, 09:52:05 am
Do you know what they are doing? I guess it's to prevent it collapsing or something.  It'll be interesting to see what Mostyn Estates' plans are.  It said in that newspaper report a few weeks ago that they were hopeful of bringing something forward in the Autumn, so hopefully it won't be too long to see. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 20, 2013, 10:00:53 am
Yes, my guess would be that they are going to remove the more unsafe parts of the facade/chimneys etc before an Autumn gale brings them crashing down.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 22, 2013, 08:26:01 am
The Town Beach got a good clean this morning, CCBC even had someone sweeping all the sand back from the steps onto the beach.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 22, 2013, 09:28:18 am
I left a sand castle there yesterday, looks like it's been stolen!  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 22, 2013, 12:02:00 pm
Why so long to do a good job,and why oh why so late in the season ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 22, 2013, 05:07:37 pm
Work is stepping up a gear at the Clarence Hotel, more vans and workmen appearing every day:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 22, 2013, 05:33:51 pm
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I did stipulate at peak times Ian i.e. over Bank Holiday week ends and if you think it's only 30 cars that get it wrong, please come and sit in my front garden and count them for yourself. It's a lot more than 30 per hour despite what Yorkie might think.

I had a chat with the guy on the gate, today, and he's a pretty shrewd bloke.  Apparently, the maxi,um numbers they have going through the toll gate on the busiest days is c. 450, and he reckons about twice that number do a U-turn.  But, and here's the interesting bit - it's not because of the toll, but because it's mainly comprised of people wanting somewhere to park.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 22, 2013, 05:36:55 pm
QED      :D

Now was that Stewart or George?   ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 22, 2013, 05:38:59 pm
Which S and you forgot Charlie :-)))  It was a St...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 22, 2013, 05:41:25 pm
Which S and you forgot Charlie :-)))  It was a St...

I'll have to apologise for missing him!  Of course, they are ALL shrewd!  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 22, 2013, 05:54:08 pm

I had a chat with the guy on the gate, today, and he's a pretty shrewd bloke.  Apparently, the maxi,um numbers they have going through the toll gate on the busiest days is c. 450, and he reckons about twice that number do a U-turn.  But, and here's the interesting bit - it's not because of the toll, but because it's mainly comprised of people wanting somewhere to park.

Right Ian, now add to that the Cars that turn around before going up to the toll gate because the car park under the cliff is full, then add the Cars coming down from the Happy Valley, both of which the pretty shrewd guy at the toll gate can't see or estimate and even Yorkie will have to admit my maths in my original post were correct. I only call it like I see it. Traffic signage is rubbish.

quod erat demonstrandum
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barbiroli on August 22, 2013, 06:06:47 pm
Walking through Mostyn Street today the lovely flower displays on the street corners are near enough dead through lack of water,what a waste of money! Meanwhile the weeds growing under the seating are flourishing.Come on council,pull your finger out! :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 22, 2013, 07:29:35 pm
Walking through Mostyn Street today the lovely flower displays on the street corners are near enough dead through lack of water,what a waste of money! Meanwhile the weeds growing under the seating are flourishing.Come on council,pull your finger out! :rage:
I saw the same thing this morning on Carlton roundabout, someone at CCBC Parks Dept has cocked up badly...  &shake&  &shake&  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 22, 2013, 08:03:09 pm
Traffic signage is rubbish.

With that statement, I agree!   Nil desperandum ist ein carborundum.    :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on August 22, 2013, 08:11:59 pm
Full marks to the Albany and Sherwood hotels on the promenade for their beautifully tended tidy gardens. This lovely display of sweet peas and dahlias was in the front of the Sherwood Hotel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Big Alan on August 22, 2013, 11:42:54 pm
Has Kevin still got The Sherwood? Saw that it was up for sale a few months ago
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 23, 2013, 08:00:05 am
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even Yorkie will have to admit my maths in my original post were correct. I only call it like I see it. Traffic signage is rubbish.

quod erat demonstrandum

Sic hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 23, 2013, 08:36:30 am
si post fata venit gloria non propero.
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Post by: snowcap on August 23, 2013, 11:11:48 am
tryo talkingo a propperro so weo can understandable (BET THAT HAS GOT THE SPELL CHECK SHAKING)
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Post by: majormellons on August 23, 2013, 11:22:25 am
Inveni alicuius fuerit interpres  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 23, 2013, 11:23:19 am
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si post fata venit gloria non propero

Noli me vocare, eto te vocabo, Marcus.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llechwedd on August 23, 2013, 02:39:54 pm
Brwmm brwm Formula one lawn mowers back.

Wheee that's St. Mary's Road done.
Wheeee that's St. David's Road done too and it took less than half an hour,.

BOING  BOING, bent grass standing up again.

If only they would take their time and do a proper job it would look a lot tidier and not a dogs' dinner.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 23, 2013, 02:56:43 pm
Todo llega a aquel que espera. :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 23, 2013, 07:53:07 pm
Brwmm brwm Formula one lawn mowers back.


It might be awhile until the grass is cut up our end of town. The poor chap who used to drive the lawn-mower died suddenly last week. R.I.P.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2013, 02:23:18 pm
Llandudno Swimming Pool and Gym are closed today due to a burst pipe.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on August 24, 2013, 02:33:09 pm
Llandudno has come out best of a "worst UK holiday resort" poll.  This may because far more of the people polled have been Brighton than have been to Llandudno?

Blackpool    16.3%
Bournemouth    4.9%
Brighton    39.3%
Llandudno  4.5%
Scarborough  14.3%
Skegness    15.8%
Torquay    4.8%

http://www.realholidayreports.com/strawpoll/default.asp (http://www.realholidayreports.com/strawpoll/default.asp)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 24, 2013, 03:37:09 pm
Llandudno Swimming Pool and Gym are closed today due to a burst pipe.

Too wet to swim!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on August 24, 2013, 03:39:15 pm
I hope the pool isn't flooded. ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2013, 04:08:04 pm
Llandudno has come out best of a "worst UK holiday resort" poll.  This may because far more of the people polled have been Brighton than have been to Llandudno?

Blackpool    16.3%
Bournemouth    4.9%
Brighton    39.3%
Llandudno  4.5%
Scarborough  14.3%
Skegness    15.8%
Torquay    4.8%

http://www.realholidayreports.com/strawpoll/default.asp (http://www.realholidayreports.com/strawpoll/default.asp)
The fact Rhyl does not appear in the list renders the whole thing invalid, in my view!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 24, 2013, 04:27:41 pm
I hope the pool isn't flooded. ;D

It looks as if the Main Pool may possibly be.  _))*


Emergency closure: Llandudno Swim Centre

Saturday 23/8/2013: The pool and gym are closed today. Please call 01492 575900 for information about Sunday opening. We are closed Bank Holiday Monday.

We apologise for the inconvenience but all facilities at Llandudno Swim Centre have been closed due to a burst water pipe overnight.

We are hoping that the Gym and Training Pool can re-open on Sunday 24/8/2013.

It is anticipated that we should be able to re-open fully on Tuesday after Bank Holiday Monday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on August 24, 2013, 06:49:02 pm
Llandudno has come out best of a "worst UK holiday resort" poll.  This may because far more of the people polled have been Brighton than have been to Llandudno?

Blackpool    16.3%
Bournemouth    4.9%
Brighton    39.3%
Llandudno  4.5%
Scarborough  14.3%
Skegness    15.8%
Torquay    4.8%

http://www.realholidayreports.com/strawpoll/default.asp (http://www.realholidayreports.com/strawpoll/default.asp)
The fact Rhyl does not appear in the list renders the whole thing invalid, in my view!  :laugh:

The list is made up of holiday resorts so Rhyl wouldn't be eligible for inclusion  ;)

Actually the survey is probably flawed unless all the people surveyed have been to all seven resorts to be able to properly compare them.  I couldn't say whether or not Brighton, Bournemouth, Scarborough or Skegness are better or worse than Llandudno as I've never visited any of those places and whilst I have been to Torquay it must have been 30 years ago so it's probably changed since then.  I'm not even sure I'd say Blackpool was necessarily worse than Llandudno, it's just different so it depends on the circumstances.  The last time I went to Blackpool was for a stag day which was far better than it would have been if it had been in Llandudno (you can't beat going on the Big One at the Pleasure Beach after an afternoon on the beer  ZXZ) but it's not somewhere I'd want to stay more than a couple of days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2013, 07:17:51 pm
Calling it a 'survey' is perhaps a touch optimistic, as it seems to emanate from a hideously designed little website used by only a handful of people.  I very much doubt that 2534 people have voted, since voting requires you to send in an email and who could be bothered to do that? &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on August 24, 2013, 08:26:50 pm
                 As it happens I have visited all these resorts in the last 3 or so years, with the exception of Skeggie which was over 50 years ago and although the time spent in each resort was only a few days it was nice to visit them but I would have definitely not want to have lived in any of them. Each place was different in its own way but not one had the backdrop of Snowdonia etc. and it's various advantages. I realise that the folk that live in the H.M.O's would not appreciate those benefits but then I am probably biased in that I have lived here for almost 70 years and wouldn't have wanted to live anywhere else, (with all its faults and shortcomings!). I had a younger brother who had lived and worked in very many different and diverse locations all over the world, and he was always looking forward to retiring back here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 24, 2013, 10:27:01 pm
The Red Bull Minis have been staying in town for the last day or two:
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Post by: wrex on August 25, 2013, 08:18:51 am
I saw ten outside the Grand all with very nice young ladies driving thyem.
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Post by: Blongb on August 25, 2013, 12:10:07 pm
The Red Bull Minis have been staying in town for the last day or two:

You should have called in Dave as you were so close. You could have helped me feed the Birds (and had a nice cup of Coffee to boot)   :D
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Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2013, 12:21:08 pm
 ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2013, 01:57:09 pm
Don't forget the Phabstock event is on at the Prom all afternoon. Lots of local bands and acts performing, all proceeds go to Phab. Organised by Val Conwy, who has worked hard on behalf of Phab for many years.

Pictured are local band 'Contagion' performing:
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Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2013, 03:14:27 pm
Busiest day of the year in Llandudno?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 26, 2013, 03:33:24 pm
Looks like it! We just drove along the prom in Colwyn Bay and Rhos on Sea, also very busy! Hopefully lots of money coming in to the area!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 26, 2013, 04:35:59 pm
It is wonderful to see.  $sunny$

More and more people are obviously using their BBC app to check the following day's weather forecast.

What a shame Cafe Cais is shut on a bank holiday meaning all those day trippers are returning to the coach park only to find the toilet shut.

Visitors cannot even visit the toilets in the swimming pool because it is also shut today.

Well will Llandudno learn?  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2013, 07:32:33 pm
The new Assisted Living development on Gloddaeth Ave is pretty much finished, looks ok:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 26, 2013, 07:53:16 pm
Cwrt Gloddaeth. 
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Post by: Gaylord Screwsby on August 26, 2013, 10:03:25 pm
Llandudno has come out best of a "worst UK holiday resort" poll.  This may because far more of the people polled have been Brighton than have been to Llandudno?

Blackpool    16.3%
Bournemouth    4.9%
Brighton    39.3%
Llandudno  4.5%
Scarborough  14.3%
Skegness    15.8%
Torquay    4.8%

http://www.realholidayreports.com/strawpoll/default.asp (http://www.realholidayreports.com/strawpoll/default.asp)
The fact Rhyl does not appear in the list renders the whole thing invalid, in my view!  :laugh:

The list is made up of holiday resorts so Rhyl wouldn't be eligible for inclusion  ;)

Actually the survey is probably flawed unless all the people surveyed have been to all seven resorts to be able to properly compare them.  I couldn't say whether or not Brighton, Bournemouth, Scarborough or Skegness are better or worse than Llandudno as I've never visited any of those places and whilst I have been to Torquay it must have been 30 years ago so it's probably changed since then.  I'm not even sure I'd say Blackpool was necessarily worse than Llandudno, it's just different so it depends on the circumstances.  The last time I went to Blackpool was for a stag day which was far better than it would have been if it had been in Llandudno (you can't beat going on the Big One at the Pleasure Beach after an afternoon on the beer  ZXZ) but it's not somewhere I'd want to stay more than a couple of days.

I've been staying with family in Lincoln over the Bank Holiday and visited Skegness on Saturday. It really is the pits of the world. Think Scarboro is great but haven't visited in about five years
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2013, 08:26:03 am
Cwrt Gloddaeth.

Just out of interest-- from the brochure.

Prices-- from
1 bed £144.950 to £189.950
2 bed 244.950 to £279.950

18 parking spaces ( for44 flats) £250.00 per annum plus reservation deposit £350.00.

Service charges
 1 bed £47.19 per week
2 bed £68.50 per week.

This includes ground rent.

The council tax is still to be assessed.

There is a guest suite, residents sitting room and a launderette. Also spaces for motor scooters.
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Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2013, 10:39:33 am
We went to have a look!  You could have McCarthy and Stoned me when we saw the prices!   You can have my 4 bedroomed place for less than some of them.  With parking for plenty of cars and scooters!
 :D

P.s.  Don't forget to add on 3% stamp duty for those over £250K.......... :o
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2013, 10:59:39 am
 *&( Are you currently considering assisted living, Yorkie?  $dins$
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Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2013, 02:39:47 pm
Having watched this building being built more or less brick by brick and put up with the noise of the crane whining and the dust for 12 months, curiosity got the better of us and I applied for a brochure.
We were the same Yorkie, you could have a nice little bungalow with far less rules and regulations for a lot less. I enquired if pets were allowed and was told one small dog in certain flats . The other thing which amused me was the fact that the launderette room was situated at the front of the building, next to the guest suite. So you'd have to fold your smalls in full view of the passers by and the washers would be running next to where the guest room is.
Some kitchens don't have windows, but have 'natural light sun tunnels' Can anyone enlighten me as to what they are?
The application for a brochure asked for many details which I was unwilling to give, so we probably wouldn't meet up to the standards stated !
Haven't been round yet, it is appointment only, so I must make one .
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Post by: Ian48 on August 27, 2013, 02:54:52 pm
I think it looks good and is far better than Plas y Dre and the old offices there.  It's quite large and imposing, but then a wide street like Gloddaeth needs buildings like that to properly work.

A fair few people must think quite differently from you as over 30% of the properties have already been sold and the official launch isn't even until 25/26 October.  They are really hefty prices for services and parking, but obviously some people must have some serious cash.
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Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2013, 04:01:57 pm
A fair few people must think quite differently from you as over 30% of the properties have already been sold and the official launch isn't even until 25/26 October.  They are really hefty prices for services and parking, but obviously some people must have some serious cash.

I wonder where the over 30% come from then to afford those prices?    I thought that CCBC had a policy of affordable housing for local people and giving them permission to only have 18 parking spaces is just going to add to the congestion problems of that area of Llandudno.
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Post by: Ian on August 27, 2013, 04:09:06 pm
Quote
Some kitchens don't have windows, but have 'natural light sun tunnels' Can anyone enlighten me as to what they are?

Skylights, of sorts, I suspect.
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Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2013, 04:24:04 pm
A fair few people must think quite differently from you as over 30% of the properties have already been sold and the official launch isn't even until 25/26 October.  They are really hefty prices for services and parking, but obviously some people must have some serious cash.

I wonder where the over 30% come from then to afford those prices?    I thought that CCBC had a policy of affordable housing for local people and giving them permission to only have 18 parking spaces is just going to add to the congestion problems of that area of Llandudno.
CCBC doesn't have such a policy. National Planning Policy dictates that all residential developments must have a 30% social housing element, but developers can elect to make a cash contribution (commuted sum) to the local authority in lieu of providing the social housing element.

Parking - with it being in a town centre location, planning policy says that many residents will choose not to have a car, thus a 1 parking space per flat requirement is not needed. I can think of several local apartment buildings where the car park is rarely more than 30% full.
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Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2013, 04:25:36 pm
Quote
Some kitchens don't have windows, but have 'natural light sun tunnels' Can anyone enlighten me as to what they are?

Skylights, of sorts, I suspect.
It's more like an air duct, where the sides of the duct are highly polished in order to reflect as much light as possible from a skylight down into a room with no natural light.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2013, 04:59:41 pm
Wasn't that called 'borrowed light'?

Ian48-- yes I agree, Plas y Dre was a mess and this smart new building looks far better.

Hugo-- Yes I would hardly call it 'affordable housing'. It isn't just the purchase price, it is the idea of all the overheads.

Parking-- the area is bad enough with people who work in town avoiding the parking fees on the prom, the area empties after 5pm, but I imagine as Dave says alot of prospective residents will chose not to have a car.
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Post by: Dave on August 27, 2013, 06:15:36 pm
I think that you have to consider the prices for these apartments include other services as well as having an apartment.
I could be wrong but I think M&S also take 10% of the resale value when you come to sell too.Good business as most residents won't be around for that long .
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Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2013, 06:20:35 pm
I take it there must be a Resident Manager and that's never cheap.
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Post by: Ian on August 27, 2013, 06:31:53 pm
Sun tunnels:  all are forms of skylight, but some have prismatic elements to refract and channel the sun down into windowless spaces.



Velux Sun Tunnel skylights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHCPcVOHcLo#)
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Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2013, 08:11:07 pm
Sounds fascinating ! Thanks
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2013, 08:17:25 pm
I could be wrong but I think M&S also take 10% of the resale value when you come to sell too.Good business as most residents won't be around for that long .

That is why it is very important to get legal advice on the terms and conditions if any forum members are thinking of purchasing one of their apartments.

I seemed to remember Channel 4 ‘Dispatches’ did a programme on this Developer around 12 months ago.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 27, 2013, 08:32:30 pm
Too many rules and regulations for my liking !---and the cost ! :o
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Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2013, 08:52:00 pm
Quote
CCBC doesn't have such a policy. National Planning Policy dictates that all residential developments must have a 30% social housing element, but developers can elect to make a cash contribution (commuted sum) to the local authority in lieu of providing the social housing element.

If that is the case how is the "commuted sum"  calculated and how can anyone find out how much this amount is?
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Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2013, 08:59:14 pm
If that is the case how is the "commuted sum"  calculated and how can anyone find out how much this amount is?
There's a formula for calculating, it's all in the Planning Application.

Conwy County Borough Council, Planning Committee 08/02/12
The priority for the Council is to provide affordable housing on-site, but the scheme for over 60’s
retirement apartments represents an exceptional circumstance, due to the
specialised nature of the accommodation and an off-site contribution is sought via a
commuted sum. Using the Three Dragons Development Appraisal Toolkit (DAT), a
30% contribution towards affordable housing would be unviable against the existing
use site valuation of £950,000. A positive residual value was concluded resulting in
a requirement of an 8% contribution towards affordable housing. A commuted sum
of £191,000 is sought against the existing use valuation when all acceptable
development costs are taken into consideration. A contribution of £191,000 towards
off-site affordable housing and £14,300 towards open space is sought and should
be subject to Section 106 Agreement.

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Post by: Yorkie on August 27, 2013, 09:28:40 pm
*&( Are you currently considering assisted living, Yorkie?  $dins$

Want to downsize for about the umpteeth time!  An apartment is an option.  Just lock up and jump on the Cruise Ship.   :D
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 27, 2013, 09:34:19 pm
and join Bea Muller?
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Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2013, 10:23:32 pm
Thanks very much Dave for explaining how the commuted sum was arrived at.   It seems that the Developer has come out of it very well indeed.
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Post by: DaveR on August 28, 2013, 08:23:42 am
A car has demolished the corner of the sewing machine shop in Upper Mostyn St sometime last night:
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Post by: Nemesis on August 29, 2013, 08:33:59 am
Just out of interest I spotted a 1 bed flat for sale in Manor Park in yesterday's Pioneer. Similar idea to M&S, resident's lounge, kitchen, laundry, call system, resident housekeeper etc. The price ??? £59,000.

This set me off looking and there are quite a number for sale in that complex, various prices and sizes. makes interesting reading.
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Post by: Nemesis on August 31, 2013, 10:56:09 am
Very busy on the prom this morning-- a haven for any enthusiasts.
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Post by: Trojan on September 02, 2013, 06:11:46 pm
A car has demolished the corner of the sewing machine shop in Upper Mostyn St sometime last night:

What an inconsiderate sew & sew.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 02, 2013, 06:15:54 pm
 _))* the driver said it wasn't him, he's been stitched up!
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Post by: Trojan on September 02, 2013, 06:46:10 pm
_))* the driver said it wasn't him, he's been stitched up!

 L0L After he started to get needled.

Was he driving a Singer Chamois?
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Post by: Yorkie on September 02, 2013, 06:52:21 pm
At least he didn't try to pull the wool over their eyes!   _))*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 02, 2013, 06:54:42 pm
It didn't damage the engine, it was ticking over like a little sewing machine!  :laugh:
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Post by: Trojan on September 02, 2013, 06:59:27 pm
Come on now....we will be getting into trouble with the moderators for changing the thread. :-X
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Post by: Fester on September 02, 2013, 08:23:05 pm
I cottoned on to this earlier, and I decided to overlock it on this occasion.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 02, 2013, 09:03:19 pm
 _))* I'm splitting my sides laughing! Where can I get them stitched up?
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Post by: snowcap on September 02, 2013, 10:11:31 pm
try running up the little orm that could give you a stitch
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Post by: Linda on September 02, 2013, 11:22:55 pm
I think you have all embroidered the truth!
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Post by: Trojan on September 03, 2013, 06:02:46 am
Darn it! These cotton-picki'n pun's are reel seamless.
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Post by: Nemesis on September 03, 2013, 08:44:34 am
This is developing into a yarn.
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Post by: Yorkie on September 03, 2013, 10:50:54 am
I'm just bobbin' in and out and getting wound up, the tension is building,  so I will have to put my foot down and whatever armhole started this offset pattern deserves being darted, seamed and shrinking.  Someone needs to button-hole the darn basket and cast him to the flocking fringe of angora. 
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Post by: Trojan on September 04, 2013, 04:55:52 pm
So...what's Llandudno like right now?  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on September 04, 2013, 06:08:24 pm
So...what's Llandudno like right now?  :laugh:
A warm & sunny afternoon.  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2013, 06:35:15 pm
So...what's Llandudno like right now?  :laugh:
A warm & sunny afternoon.  $good$

Which has turned into a very warm and pleasant evening!   ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on September 04, 2013, 06:56:38 pm
Visitors walking into Llandudno from the Deganwy/Conwy direction along the coastal path are greeted by this pleasant sight on the West Shore Pumping Station. I wonder if the local Councillor (who is it?) ever walks down by there?
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Post by: Yorkie on September 04, 2013, 07:22:37 pm
Margaret Lyons? 
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Post by: Trojan on September 04, 2013, 07:42:25 pm
"Free Nelson Mandella???" I believe he was freed from prison in 1989.

Or does it mean from hospital? I heard he's been in with a lung infection.
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Post by: Bigmurph on September 04, 2013, 07:57:12 pm
Looks like the same morons handy work on the waste ground at the side of the station by builder st.
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Post by: Cambrian on September 04, 2013, 07:57:46 pm
Probably best of it was reported to Welsh Water on one of their free phone numbers.
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Post by: Fester on September 04, 2013, 08:29:34 pm
Indeed, we seem to have a graffiti artist, who is stuck in a time warp.
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Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2013, 08:30:46 am
The Promenade from Imperial Hotel to the Cenotaph was taped off this morning for filming. Not sure if it's for a commercial or film, but there's lots of extras and a blue car with a dog hanging out of the window driving up and down.  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 05, 2013, 08:33:23 am
A dog driving a car! Wow!  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2013, 08:36:28 am
A dog driving a car! Wow!  :laugh:
I was waiting for that one....  &shake&
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 05, 2013, 08:37:47 am
That explains why the promenade is taped off.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 05, 2013, 08:38:35 am
A dog driving a car! Wow!  :laugh:
I was waiting for that one....  &shake&

Happy to oblige!  $good$
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Post by: Nemesis on September 05, 2013, 10:40:38 am
Griff Rhys Jones was here yesterday and there was filming for Weather Man Walking. Didn't see anything personally, but had been informed by a couple of different people.
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Post by: DaveR on September 05, 2013, 11:12:47 am
I've been told it's an advert for Volkswagen, and they are also filming in Gloddaeth & Lloyd St.
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Post by: Tosh on September 05, 2013, 12:14:10 pm
A dog driving a car, should that be Bow Wow, ME
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 05, 2013, 12:38:32 pm
Could be, unless we are barking up the wrong tree!  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on September 05, 2013, 01:33:28 pm
Could be, unless we are barking up the wrong tree!  :laugh:

I twigged that!    ZXZ
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Post by: norman08 on September 05, 2013, 02:38:53 pm
the 2 dogs were not very good actors  _))*
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Post by: DVT on September 05, 2013, 10:38:05 pm
I've been told it was filming for the next generation of Volkswagen TV adverts - they also filmed going round the Marine Drive.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 05, 2013, 10:42:04 pm
Should be good publicity for the town! Look forward to seeing the result.
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Post by: Linda on September 05, 2013, 11:49:25 pm
Could be, unless we are barking up the wrong tree!  :laugh:

I twigged that!    ZXZ

The dogs were Budding actors and could grow(l) into their roles  D)
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Post by: Trojan on September 06, 2013, 04:14:26 am
Should be good publicity for the town! Look forward to seeing the result.

Vorsprung durch Technik.  ^*^0
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 06, 2013, 06:30:43 am
Or,
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Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2013, 06:35:41 pm
I think it's fair to say that Summer is over....
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 06, 2013, 06:57:59 pm
It's hard to believe 11 days ago it was that glorious August Bank Holiday Monday with record crowds !!  $sunny$
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Post by: Nemesis on September 06, 2013, 07:41:39 pm
Perishing--- and I have a wash kitchen full of people's wet coats dripping on the floor !
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Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2013, 08:43:02 pm
A mayor is calling for traffic lights at the exit from a retail park to be scrapped to stop long tailbacks of vehicles.

Llandudno businessman Gary Burchett wants the lights at the Conwy Road exit of  Mostyn Champneys in Llandudno to be replaced by a ‘give way’ sign. And he’s also calling for a mini roundabout at the exit to Mostyn Broadway.

He explained: “This year there have been complaints that exiting the park at peak times can take a long time because of tailbacks from the traffic lights.

“Similarly on Mostyn Broadway vehicles can wait a long time for an opportunity to get out of the junction at the existing ‘give way’ sign.

“In order to improve the traffic flow from Charlotte Road on Conway Road I would like Conwy County Council to consider suspending the traffic light system and replacing it with a ‘give way’ sign.

“As the system is set up to only allow traffic to to turn left onto Conwy Road vehicles could quite easily filter in as all the traffic flowing along Conway Road is already slowing for the Links roundabout,” he suggested.

“At the the other end of the retail park the exit from Charlotte Road onto Mostyn Broadway is always congested due to the poor visibility caused by parked vehicles and the position of the bus stop immediately opposite the junction.

“Here I would like the highways department to consider the installation of a mini roundabout as I believe this would greatly enhance the traffic flow both on and off the park while causing only minimal disruption to the traffic flow on Mostyn Broadway.”

His proposal was discussed last night (Wednesday) by the town council’s planning and transportation committee and subject to members’ approval will then be forwarded to Conwy County Council for consideration.

Conwy Council cabinet member Philip Evans represents the Tudno ward which includes the retail park.

He commented: “The need for a mini-roundabout at the junction of Charlotte Road and the Broadway was identified when the extensions to Venue Cymru were planned in the mid 90s.

“Funding was supposed to be there for this as part of the project but it was never carried out and I have never been able to establish where the budget went. The matter has been raised many times since without any success. Hopefully it can be looked at again.

“In relation to the junction onto Conway Road, I have not been aware of any particular issues.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/mayor-calls-new-traffic-management-5842610 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/mayor-calls-new-traffic-management-5842610)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 06, 2013, 09:46:26 pm
wrex has been complaining about those traffic lights for years on this forum.

It simply needs for the traffic lights to be kept on green for a bit longer.

To do away with them altogether will not help pedestrians to cross that junction because pedestrians rely on the lights changing to red to allow them to safely cross the junction.

A mini-roundabout makes sense at the other exit but it may once again make crossing Mostyn Broadway even more dangerous for pedestrians than it is now because pedestrians won’t walk down to the swimming pool to cross safely over on the pedestrian crossing and then walk back to the bus stop.
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Post by: Trojan on September 07, 2013, 04:57:58 am
“Funding was supposed to be there for this as part of the project but it was never carried out and I have never been able to establish where the budget went

Check Guto Bebb's meal receipts.  $dins$
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Post by: DaveR on September 09, 2013, 09:55:50 am
Some very impressive cloud formations over Llandudno Bay yesterday:
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Post by: hollins on September 09, 2013, 10:36:38 am
Love that one DaveR.
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Post by: Trojan on September 10, 2013, 01:32:55 am
Love that one DaveR.

Yea, looks impressive. I have not seen any clouds in months.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 10, 2013, 06:27:20 am
Why?

Are you still in Alcatraz?
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Post by: Trojan on September 10, 2013, 07:41:44 am
Why?

Are you still in Alcatraz?

 :laugh: No, I escaped in June.

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Post by: Nemesis on September 11, 2013, 01:29:54 pm
https://spacehive.com/followthewhiterabbit#undefined

This seems to have been ages getting off the ground-- also what is happening to the two 'unused ' statues?
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Post by: Trojan on September 11, 2013, 06:36:25 pm
This seems to have been ages getting off the ground

Could be something to do with this....


£20 pledged by 1 funder

Our goal
£12,466
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Post by: Fester on September 11, 2013, 09:28:26 pm
I think one of the unused ones should replace the Alice one, outside the Railway Station.

It is rubbish and quite sinister, more befitting the 'Wicked Witch of the West'
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Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2013, 08:40:47 am
The Home Office Immigration Service has been carrying out raids in Llandudno early this morning,
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Post by: wrex on September 12, 2013, 11:31:43 am
Saw them in Craig y don this morning hiding behind the co-op.
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Post by: Ian on September 12, 2013, 01:24:39 pm
Who was hiding? The hunters or the hunted?
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Post by: wrex on September 12, 2013, 02:24:17 pm
The hunters
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Post by: snowcap on September 12, 2013, 07:12:44 pm
looks like there has been a nasty crash on craig y don 5ish, fire engine ambulance rescue veicle road still  closed 7pm
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Post by: snowcap on September 12, 2013, 07:31:14 pm
its on the Colwyn road at the bottom of the road  near the premier inn 
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Post by: wrex on September 15, 2013, 10:56:03 am
Ive just been to check on the Cheshire cat ,Tweedle Dee and Teedle Dumb in the coach park on builders st,you will all be glad to know they are still there,a little faded already but their new homes are being dug as we speak,one outside the Lilly on the West Shore and the other two in Haulfre gardens ande they will be in place for the winter season.Oscar has been asking why the council has been funding the buisness as the people behind the Alice project are a money making buisness,they have forked out to buy the contents of the museum and as far as i know are looking for premises to put them on display again so i think the council are right to help this project but maybe a clause to get some money back if the whole thing is a success.
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Post by: wrex on September 15, 2013, 10:58:23 am
and when you see these three figures take a close look at the Tweedle brothers,i think they  look very much like Yorkie and Fester and the cat has a grin like DaveR.
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Post by: Nemesis on September 15, 2013, 10:59:58 am
 $good$

Well done Wrex and Thanks for the info.

Shall keep my eyes open for the next phase.

oops I should duck if I were you !! _))*
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 15, 2013, 12:10:37 pm
Oscar has been asking why the council has been funding the buisness as the people behind the Alice project are a money making buisness,they have forked out to buy the contents of the museum and as far as i know are looking for premises to put them on display again so i think the council are right to help this project but maybe a clause to get some money back if the whole thing is a success.

To your knowledge, wrex, is there a good reason why their bank will not lend them the finance so they may rent premises to display the former stock of Muriel Ratcliffe’s ‘Rabbit Hole’?

It makes commercial sense as, no doubt, the directors of the Alice Company will eventually be retaining all the entrance fees.
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Post by: Linda on September 15, 2013, 02:17:36 pm
Sad that the Rabbit Hole had to close, nice little attraction and so popular with foreign visitors. My daughter worked for Muriel for years so we were all a little sad when it closed. It was the venue for folk to see and understand the Alice in Wonderland connection to Llandudno. Someone should have introduced something similar to replace it.
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Post by: wrex on September 15, 2013, 02:30:52 pm
As far as i know Linda that is what the Alice people will be doing when as they say,find the right property,as for the reason they have;nt yet Bri i have no idea.
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Post by: Yorkie on September 15, 2013, 04:11:23 pm
and when you see these three figures take a close look at the Tweedle brothers,i think they  look very much like Yorkie and Fester and the cat has a grin like DaveR.

Thanks Wrex, however I will have to reserve judgement until I have seen the actual figure that you have attributed as my likeness!  I hope you were being kind!   Or is that too much to hope?   ZXZ
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Post by: Nemesis on September 15, 2013, 04:15:05 pm
Perhaps the idea of appealing for handouts is better than repaying a loan ?????
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Post by: wrex on September 15, 2013, 04:30:59 pm
Yorkie you know im only joking
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Post by: Yorkie on September 15, 2013, 06:32:15 pm
Yorkie you know im only joking

Of course I do!   $drink$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 15, 2013, 06:40:55 pm
Perhaps the idea of appealing for handouts is better than repaying a loan ?????

Which is why there is a case, Nem, for seeing funds going instead to voluntary not-for-profit groups like Friends of The Happy Valley so maybe Oscar has made a valid point after all.
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Post by: Michael on September 15, 2013, 08:18:02 pm
   I have often wondered why the Rabbit Hole closed.  Did the owner just get fed up, or wanted to retire and no one was interested in taking it on. Or had it just had its time and was no longer making money? Seems a shame
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Post by: Fester on September 15, 2013, 08:58:24 pm
and when you see these three figures take a close look at the Tweedle brothers,i think they  look very much like Yorkie and Fester and the cat has a grin like DaveR.

I was intrigued by this, and went to have a peek in Builder St to see the sculptures that looked very much like Yorkie and I...
Wrex was spot on, these are the pictures I took to prove his point.
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Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2013, 08:59:59 pm
Which one is which?  Z**
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Post by: wrex on September 15, 2013, 09:06:59 pm
Nice one Fester lol.
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Post by: Yorkie on September 15, 2013, 09:09:50 pm
Which one is which?  Z**

Just check out the bald head!    :D
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Post by: Fester on September 15, 2013, 09:38:23 pm
As you can see, the sculptor caught me at the precise moment I had noticed my loss to Yorkie at Scrabble, by over 200 points.
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Post by: DaveR on September 18, 2013, 08:24:28 am
CCBC are installing new flagpole bases along the Prom - just in time for the end of the season. Still, looks like we will get new flagpoles for next year, perhaps even with flags flying from them.
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Post by: Mikethewatch on September 18, 2013, 10:00:41 am
I wonder if the will fly their own flag, the Jolly Roger?
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Post by: Yorkie on September 18, 2013, 04:07:13 pm
I wonder if the will fly their own flag, the Jolly Roger?

Are you trying to wind us up?   $walesflag$
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Post by: Blongb on September 18, 2013, 08:08:13 pm
It's about time.   D)
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Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2013, 05:56:36 pm
Preparations for the LLAWN01 Arts Weekend are now well underway. Full details of the weekend's events are here: http://www.llawn.org/ (http://www.llawn.org/)
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Post by: wrex on September 19, 2013, 06:03:59 pm
Ooh can somebody find out who and where that comes from,it would look good for the Extrava.
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Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2013, 06:10:05 pm
There's four of them, Wrex. I believe they've been shipped up from South Wales. The LLawn Organiser, Marc Rees, will be able to tell you more. http://www.llawn.org/#c-8 (http://www.llawn.org/#c-8)
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Post by: norman08 on September 19, 2013, 08:49:42 pm
anyone know what was going on at the castle hotel, passed today door was open some kind of flag outside and banner thing in the upper windows ,did they have a wiewing  _))*   
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Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2013, 09:18:58 pm
anyone know what was going on at the castle hotel, passed today door was open some kind of flag outside and banner thing in the upper windows ,did they have a wiewing  _))*   
It's all part of the LLAWN event, the hotel will be open over the weekend housing an art exhibition.
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Post by: Yelboh on September 19, 2013, 10:20:31 pm
I am staggered that the building is deemed safe enough to allow people any where near it let alone in it seeing bits having been falling off it for some time!
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Post by: norman08 on September 19, 2013, 10:31:03 pm
I was thinking the same thing , oh of course its mostyn est,s thats ok anyone else wouldn,t get away with that. 
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Post by: Nemesis on September 20, 2013, 10:18:13 am
Love the beach huts !!! ;D
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Post by: norman08 on September 20, 2013, 01:42:33 pm
yes nemises they looked good i asked one of the guys if they,d bought some sand aswell  _))*
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Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2013, 04:20:30 pm
Had a nose inside the Tudno Castle Hotel this afternoon:
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Post by: Yorkie on September 20, 2013, 04:28:17 pm
Had a nose inside the Tudno Castle Hotel this afternoon:

Looks very exciting - not!    ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2013, 04:32:39 pm
I also took the opportunity to take a look inside the Tabernacl:
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Post by: Gwynant on September 20, 2013, 04:35:04 pm
                        Seeing those photos brought back some memories Dave. I had the reception for my first marriage in 1968 in the Tudno Castle (or North Western as it was known as then), and I remember the cost was 12/6d per head (62.5p nowadays) which included welcoming drinks, a three course meal and a room to get changed in after the reception prior to going away on honeymoon. Not very long afterwards the hotel changed hands, I was not surprised as it was a very good spread and excellent value for money, and no-one who was there could believe the proprietors at that time could have made anything at that price!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 20, 2013, 05:18:37 pm
Had a nose inside the Tudno Castle Hotel this afternoon:

Looks great, we will be having a look tomorrow!
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Post by: hollins on September 20, 2013, 10:06:08 pm
A derelict building, the Castle Hotel......how did I know that it wouldn't be long before DaveR was exploring inside!
Seriously though it was really interesting to see inside there and the Tabernacle and super photos. Thanks.
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Post by: DaveR on September 21, 2013, 09:56:42 am
The open air showing of Jaws on the Prom last night was a great success, a big crowd present that really enjoyed the film. I was pleased to have a quick chat with Ian Turner too, such a great guy.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 21, 2013, 10:04:22 am
I believe Ian is most definitely an under-used asset by this town.
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Post by: Llechwedd on September 21, 2013, 11:16:12 am
Taberbacl could easily be used as a small theatre for chamber concerts , one man shows etc, Just like in Edinburgh.
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Post by: Yelboh on September 22, 2013, 03:22:12 pm
Had a lovely walk round town today.  Llawn arts festival seemed to be generating some real interest and even better some real atmosphere.  We braved the Tudno Castle and found it fascinating and sad at the same time that this once majestic building has been left to rot to such an extent.  Photos inside taken just days after it shut showed how bad the interior fabric of the building had got before it closed!  The little bathing huts on the promenade were fun and added real vibrancy.  All of this plus lovely weather and a sandwich lunch in the very pleasant st.georges hotel made me think that parts of Llandudno right now felt really good - lets just get those bits that don't sorted!
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Post by: DaveR on September 22, 2013, 09:33:02 pm
Had a lovely walk round town today.  Llawn arts festival seemed to be generating some real interest and even better some real atmosphere.  We braved the Tudno Castle and found it fascinating and sad at the same time that this once majestic building has been left to rot to such an extent.  Photos inside taken just days after it shut showed how bad the interior fabric of the building had got before it closed!  The little bathing huts on the promenade were fun and added real vibrancy.  All of this plus lovely weather and a sandwich lunch in the very pleasant st.georges hotel made me think that parts of Llandudno right now felt really good - lets just get those bits that don't sorted!
It was a great event; I really enjoyed it too. I was talking to Marc Rees, the Organiser, this afternoon, and it seems likely it can become an annual event.  $good$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 22, 2013, 10:33:52 pm
We thought it was great too! PC permitting I'll try and get some pics up sometime!
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Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2013, 05:51:48 pm
Bodhyfryd Road has been closed and Heras fences put up to allow the Clarence Hotel renovation work to begin in earnest:
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Post by: Blongb on September 23, 2013, 06:31:22 pm
Bodhyfryd Road has been closed and Heras fences put up to allow the Clarence Hotel renovation work to begin in earnest:

The yellow sign said Bodhyfryd Road was going to be closed for the next 52 weeks. Pity the poor residents but I don't suppose Tom Owens guests will mind too much.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on September 24, 2013, 06:08:01 pm
Bodhyfryd Road has been closed and Heras fences put up to allow the Clarence Hotel renovation work to begin in earnest:

The yellow sign said Bodhyfryd Road was going to be closed for the next 52 weeks. Pity the poor residents but I don't suppose Tom Owens guests will mind too much.
I had a close look and 52 was crossed out and 1 put in !! so who knows
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Post by: DaveR on September 24, 2013, 06:48:40 pm
A thick fog descended upon Llandudno this afternoon:
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Post by: snowcap on September 24, 2013, 07:53:55 pm
was it Irish fog?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 24, 2013, 10:48:35 pm
Some pics of the excellent Art Festival
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Post by: Fester on September 25, 2013, 12:16:50 am
One man's excellent, is another man's 'ridiculous'  &shake&
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Post by: DaveR on September 25, 2013, 08:37:27 am
One man's excellent, is another man's 'ridiculous'  &shake&
I nominate you for 'Llandudno's Black Cloud 2013'.  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on September 25, 2013, 08:38:27 am
Work is underway to demolish the old stables block at the rear of the Clarence Hotel.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 25, 2013, 09:35:46 am
One man's excellent, is another man's 'ridiculous'  &shake&
I nominate you for 'Llandudno's Black Cloud 2013'.  :laugh:

Seconded!  ;D
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 25, 2013, 03:09:27 pm
One man's excellent, is another man's 'ridiculous'  &shake&

We are not usually great art fans, however this event was excellent in many ways. It brought art out of the gallerys to the people via the various replica bathing machines and other locations, it made people look at different things and enquire about what was going on, you do not have to like everything there, just think about it, great to see inside the Tudno Castle Hotel too! Above all else it brought a great sense of fun to the town, surely the main purpose of a seaside resort!
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Post by: Ian on September 25, 2013, 03:53:56 pm
A lot of Magritte-type images
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Post by: hollins on September 25, 2013, 04:04:57 pm
Minus the bowler hats.
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Post by: hollins on September 25, 2013, 04:06:33 pm
A thick fog descended upon Llandudno this afternoon:


Love the fog photo DaveR. Did you take any more we could look at?
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Post by: DaveR on September 25, 2013, 07:40:38 pm
A thick fog descended upon Llandudno this afternoon:


Love the fog photo DaveR. Did you take any more we could look at?
Thank you, I did take a couple more - nothing particularly exciting but here they are:
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Post by: hollins on September 25, 2013, 09:00:11 pm
Nice, thanks DaveR.
I did have a look on your blog to see if there were any more and saw the gardens one. I also tried to look at your facebook page but it seems to have disappeared from my likes. Have you closed that page? If not could you send me a link to it please?
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Post by: DaveR on September 25, 2013, 09:10:46 pm
Thank you, no, I don't use Facebook anymore. Best place to see everything is on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/)
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Post by: Michael on September 30, 2013, 03:13:31 pm
Police and ambulance at the demolition part of the Clarence.
   Lets hope that the Clarence jinx hasent struck again
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Post by: Nemesis on October 01, 2013, 09:01:25 am
Anyone else seen the 'graffiti' scrawled all along the Marine Drive?-- left by this weekend's visitors.?
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Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2013, 10:07:36 am
Anyone else seen the 'graffiti' scrawled all along the Marine Drive?-- left by this weekend's visitors.?
What's this then?
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Post by: Nemesis on October 01, 2013, 10:50:49 am
All round the Marine Drive someone has scrawled what look like instructions such as GOAT .--- NO PAIN NO GAIN.-- GO RHOS and various other messages on the surface of the road. My OH noticed them yesterday a.m when he took the dog out. Sally Pidcock is aware of them and the general consensus is that it was done by" Lycra Louts "involved with the cycle race. She has contacted the organisers and steps are in place to remove them.
I have some pics, but they aren't mine and until I ask permission I can't reproduce them.
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Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2013, 11:01:20 am
It certainly sounds like the cyclists are reponsible for the grafitti, 'GO RHOS' is obviously a reference to Rhos Cycling Club, who organised the event:
http://www.rhoscycling.com/orme.php (http://www.rhoscycling.com/orme.php)

How disappointing that they chose to treat the Great Orme like that.  &shake&
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Post by: Yorkie on October 01, 2013, 11:09:05 am
It certainly sounds like the cyclists are reponsible for the grafitti, 'GO RHOS' is obviously a reference to Rhos Cycling Club, who organised the event:
http://www.rhoscycling.com/orme.php (http://www.rhoscycling.com/orme.php)

How disappointing that they chose to treat the Great Orme like that.  &shake&

Maybe it would be an idea to tell the Sponsors (Delsol) and see what they say about their name being associated with such matters!   :D
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Post by: dwsi on October 01, 2013, 06:59:10 pm
Don't get me started on cyclists of the lycra wearing variety, it'll be a full blown rant  ;D $00$
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Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2013, 07:06:44 pm
Several fire engines at the flats next to TriBells chip shop in Lloyd St.
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Post by: Kowalski on October 01, 2013, 07:24:00 pm
So let me get this straight, some "lycra louts" daubed some words on a road in order to give a cycling race slightly more of a European feel and now Llandudno is on the slippery slope to hell in a handcart that's being pushed by Red Ed and the liberal mafia.

Are you lot for real?
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Post by: Jack on October 01, 2013, 07:40:46 pm
Surely it wouldn't be the "lycra louts" themselves but their loved ones writing a simple message of support and encouragement in chalk that will have probably washed off after tonight's rain?
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Post by: DaveR on October 01, 2013, 07:45:09 pm
So let me get this straight, some "lycra louts" daubed some words on a road in order to give a cycling race slightly more of a European feel and now Llandudno is on the slippery slope to hell in a handcart that's being pushed by Red Ed and the liberal mafia.

Are you lot for real?
Seems to me like the only one reacting hysterically is...you, Kowalski?  :roll:
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Post by: Kowalski on October 01, 2013, 08:33:04 pm
You'll have to forgive me, I only take posts at face value.
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Post by: Michael on October 01, 2013, 08:59:16 pm
   In my time I was a prominent member of Rhos Cycling Club, I loved it, and I still have a very soft spot for them.

   But, even allowing for that nostalgia, as far as vandalism goes a few slogans on the road can hardly be considered very high up the list.

   I would have thought the Orme Warden has far worse examples of vandalism to get after. If not, I'll give her plenty.  Mike
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Post by: Dave on October 01, 2013, 10:39:27 pm
I find it totally unacceptable when anyone has so little regard for our environment. You should have seen the litter left around the car park at the end of the Orme that council staff were busy picking up this afternoon. What's wrong with people that makes them behave in such a selfish manor.
Personally I would make the perpetrators clear up their mess and everyone else's if they are caught.
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Post by: Ian on October 02, 2013, 06:36:43 am
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Llandudno is on the slippery slope to hell in a handcart that's being pushed by Red Ed and the liberal mafia.

Are you lot for real?

If by 'Red Ed' you're alluding to the leader of the Labour party then say so and avoid hackneyed, tabloid-inspired and inaccurate cliches.  And if the implication is that he's a communist, then why include the Liberals?


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Post by: Ian on October 02, 2013, 06:42:26 am
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Surely it wouldn't be the "lycra louts" themselves but their loved ones writing a simple message of support and encouragement in chalk that will have probably washed off after tonight's rain?

Are they chalk, then?  Even if it does wash off in time, however, what impresion does it give visitors? Graffitti is all too ofen the identifying chacteristic of run-down areas with social issues.
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Post by: DaveR on October 02, 2013, 08:22:38 am
I do find Kowalski's stance a little odd. Criticising someone because they care about the area in which they live and are prepared to raise issues seems a little unfair? One of the aims of the Forum was to encourage the local community to take ownership of environmental issues etc and try to get them resolved.

I'm sure if an intelligent chap like Kowlaski girded his loins and got stuck into local issues, he could achieve a lot. It would perhaps be more productive than writing an 11 section blog post on what's wrong with modern football.
 :cyclist40:
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Post by: Nemesis on October 02, 2013, 08:33:11 am
I now have permission to reproduce the pictures-- these are just 3 of many more.
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Post by: DaveR on October 02, 2013, 08:42:14 am
Certainly looks like permanent aerosol paint rather than 'chalk'. I hope the Organisers will be getting a bill for the removal of the graffiti, I don't see why the taxpayers should foot the bill.  &shake&
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 02, 2013, 09:36:25 am
Could be those sprays that workmen use for marking out jobs to be done? Still looks a right mess though!
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Post by: Hugo on October 02, 2013, 11:33:52 am
I haven't driven around the Orme for a while but I did so yesterday but must admit that I didn't notice those markings, perhaps they have gone.
Apart from the Goats I did notice that the small cottage on the Marine Drive that was previously the Tom and Jerry pumping house is undergoing a massive extension project.
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Post by: Ian on October 02, 2013, 12:22:43 pm
The architect is very pleased he got that through, Hugo...

I'm pretty certain that's spray paint of some sort.  Certainly doesn't look like chalk...
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Post by: Hugo on October 02, 2013, 12:32:30 pm
He's a very lucky architect indeed but I'm sure that it'll be a lovely building when completed.

Are those markings still there Ian because if they are then I don't know how I've missed them?
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Post by: Ian on October 02, 2013, 01:21:26 pm
No idea, Hugo;  we're currently in Paris :-))
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Post by: hollins on October 02, 2013, 03:29:25 pm
Right Ian, now it is your turn for a "room with a view" contribution!
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Post by: Ian on October 02, 2013, 05:00:11 pm
Thought you might say that :-)))))))
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Post by: Dave on October 02, 2013, 06:13:31 pm
They were there yesterday at around 4.30pm and as we have had some heavy rain it's not chalk and looks like spray paint to me for sure.
I presume Goat is a character who belongs to Rhos Cycling Club then ? Bet he's embarrassed if he is, at least I would hope he is.
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Post by: Kowalski on October 02, 2013, 08:30:38 pm
This is precisely the reaction I was alluding to.

The paint on the road isn't the desecration of the cenotaph or dirtbikes destroying footpaths or a farmer destroying an ASSI with pesticide, it's not even a scumbag goat from the underclass eating prize winning flowers in a Church Walks garden, IT'S SOME PAINT ON A ROAD.

If this is the worst thing that Llandudno has to put up with at the moment then the town isn't doing so badly.


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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 02, 2013, 08:38:42 pm
So would you want it on the road where you live? I wouldn't! It could have been put on banners instead and removed after the event.
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Post by: Fester on October 02, 2013, 08:49:58 pm
Kowalski,  The Great Orme is an area of outstanding natural beauty, it is a completely ignorant and thoughtless act to daub slogans on it.  (assuming it is paint of some kind)

I cannot understand why you are so vitriolic in opposition to those who simply want to keep things looking pleasant?

Admittedly, Llandudno faces bigger issues than this, but using your logic, one of the biggest issues, (the Pier Pavilion eyesore), looks better in the state it is in, rather than have a pleasing structure there?

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Post by: Kowalski on October 02, 2013, 10:08:51 pm
It's still a bit of paint that can be removed by a high pressure hose.

Weirdly, or is it sadly?, a bit of easily removed paint has raised almost as much comment as August's potential visit by the EDL.
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Post by: Dave on October 02, 2013, 10:50:50 pm
It's still a bit of paint that can be removed by a high pressure hose.

Weirdly, or is it sadly?, a bit of easily removed paint has raised almost as much comment as August's potential visit by the EDL.

Maybe thats because no one commented that the EDL visit was unimportant in the general scheme of things.
Of course there are more important things to worry about in life than graffiti but it doesn't make it any more acceptable.
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Post by: Reza_Malin on October 02, 2013, 11:04:01 pm
I was going to post something on this topic but in all honesty, I have more pressing issues to attend to...
But...

Graffiti is unacceptable in this context but like I think Kowalski is trying to infer, let's keep a proportionate view on it. It is not permanent and knowing Rhos CC as I do, I would imagine they are not happy with what happened.   The paint will be removed and then people can go about their daily lives once more. However, until this disturbance in the societal fabric of the Llandudno consciousness has been resolved, I would urge posters not to fall into the stereo-typing trap of pigeon-holing cyclists as Lycra louts as it merely denigrates the point they are trying to convey. Besides my vicar wears Lycra and I don't believe he is a lout.
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Post by: Fester on October 02, 2013, 11:29:08 pm
I was going to post something on this topic but in all honesty, I have more pressing issues to attend to...
But...

How ironic that you were too busy to post that, then told us that you were too busy, (thus taking even longer) ... then you proceeded to post it anyway!  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Ian on October 03, 2013, 05:01:46 am
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It is not permanent and knowing Rhos CC as I do, I would imagine they are not happy with what happened. 

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Weirdly, or is it sadly?, a bit of easily removed paint has raised almost as much comment as August's potential visit by the EDL.

I'm always interested when people rise to the defence of those who desecrate the environment. But there are a couple of points regarding graffiti:

1.  If it's been spray-painted on, it's not easily removed. No far away there's an annual road race (on foot) and the start line is spray-painted onto the road.  It's a very thin line, yet it lasts for two years, before requiring repainting.

2.  Graffiti says something about an area. It has worrying, even frightening, connotations for the elderly in particular and that's the largest demographic for the visitor base in Llandudno.

3.  I agree that it's wrong to tar all cyclists with the same brush in this regard. Nonetheless, this was done by mindless idiots, and the club who organised the event has to be made to clean it up or charged for its removal. If, as some seem to believe, it's 'easily removed' then it clearly won't cost much.

What's been said by people on here objecting to it has not been an overreaction: it's a reaction to the very real damage this could do if not checked quickly. Places that are awash with graffiti are seen as places where people simply don't care. We're pretty free of it because it's clear people do, but it would be very sad if this were to change.
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Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 08:12:14 am
It's still a bit of paint that can be removed by a high pressure hose.

Weirdly, or is it sadly?, a bit of easily removed paint has raised almost as much comment as August's potential visit by the EDL.
Weirdly, or is it sadly?, the majority of your own comments on this Forum have been about the paint, rather than other apparently more important local issues.
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Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 09:41:40 am
Melfyn Clwyd Roberts spotted this Pizza Hut ad and posted it on Twitter. Can you see any errors?
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Post by: Nemesis on October 03, 2013, 10:41:05 am
Back to the paint--and it is paint-- gloss paint-- I got out of the car and ran my fingers over it to settle the debate between chalk and paint.
There are 7 lots of wording that I counted whilst driving. I actually began to think that it wasn't there as the first 2 lots are near the Hafnant ( Hence the fact that I could stop the car and get out.) and the rest are past R&BT.

Hugo-- the house you are talking about was having a slight 'episode' with a huge Laura Ashley lorry trying to turn round in front of it this morning.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2013, 12:44:37 pm
Melfyn Clwyd Roberts spotted this Pizza Hut ad and posted it on Twitter. Can you see any errors?

It should read:

We are by the Cineworld and near Tesco instead of we are by the Odeon and near Asda?

Address should be off Ffordd 6G instead of off Junction Way.

County should be Conwy and not Gwynedd.

The normal advertised landline number is 0871 200 2000 and costs 10p per minute.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: getalife on October 03, 2013, 12:49:56 pm
First can I apologise as it was me that wrote it and i will be cleaning it up i was given the wrong paint, it was meant for encouragement toward a friend that was race as he was very nervous and he had a good race. So sorry for any inconvenience cause if any?

Secondly haven’t you lot got anything better to do the race brings people to Llandudno it was a bit of paint (should of been chalk paint my mistake) you got out of your car and ran your finger over it why? Paint is paint? Madness if you ask me? And as for rhos on sea club I was spectator supporting a friend that isn’t even in rhos on sea club, if you looked i wrote a few clubs names on the road ? i take it you lot didn’t watch tour of Britain or Italy or France or Poland etc., well this was the Great Orme race which is getting bigger every year was my first year at the event and it really shows Llandudno’s good side (there isn’t many) so that’s my rant over stop moaning and complaining and it will be gone as long as the weather stay dry sorry again!!!!!


Regards
Spectator of the great orme race 
 $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 03, 2013, 12:57:13 pm
Bodhyfred rd closes on the 21 oct till May for the Clarence,i wonder if they are getting a proper firm in or is it continuing with such a mish mash of workers.The police will have a bit of a diversion to get to the nice folk,i see another vresident of Bodhyfred rd has been done for having a knife,why are all the dregges being housed in Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 03, 2013, 01:00:05 pm
First can I apologise as it was me that wrote it and i will be cleaning it up i was given the wrong paint, it was meant for encouragement toward a friend that was race as he was very nervous and he had a good race. So sorry for any inconvenience cause if any?

Secondly haven’t you lot got anything better to do the race brings people to Llandudno it was a bit of paint (should of been chalk paint my mistake) you got out of your car and ran your finger over it why? Paint is paint? Madness if you ask me? And as for rhos on sea club I was spectator supporting a friend that isn’t even in rhos on sea club, if you looked i wrote a few clubs names on the road ? i take it you lot didn’t watch tour of Britain or Italy or France or Poland etc., well this was the Great Orme race which is getting bigger every year was my first year at the event and it really shows Llandudno’s good side (there isn’t many) so that’s my rant over stop moaning and complaining and it will be gone as long as the weather stay dry sorry again!!!!!


Regards
Spectator of the great orme race 
 $walesflag$

Words fail me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 01:26:26 pm
First can I apologise as it was me that wrote it and i will be cleaning it up i was given the wrong paint, it was meant for encouragement toward a friend that was race as he was very nervous and he had a good race. So sorry for any inconvenience cause if any?

Secondly haven’t you lot got anything better to do the race brings people to Llandudno it was a bit of paint (should of been chalk paint my mistake) you got out of your car and ran your finger over it why? Paint is paint? Madness if you ask me? And as for rhos on sea club I was spectator supporting a friend that isn’t even in rhos on sea club, if you looked i wrote a few clubs names on the road ? i take it you lot didn’t watch tour of Britain or Italy or France or Poland etc., well this was the Great Orme race which is getting bigger every year was my first year at the event and it really shows Llandudno’s good side (there isn’t many) so that’s my rant over stop moaning and complaining and it will be gone as long as the weather stay dry sorry again!!!!!


Regards
Spectator of the great orme race 
 $walesflag$
If you're the sort of person the event brings to Llandudno, then I suspect we could do without it. You might live in a sh*thole town but we don't, and we want to keep it that way.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2013, 01:44:57 pm
First can I apologise as it was me that wrote it and i will be cleaning it up i was given the wrong paint, it was meant for encouragement toward a friend that was race as he was very nervous and he had a good race. So sorry for any inconvenience cause if any?

Secondly haven’t you lot got anything better to do the race brings people to Llandudno it was a bit of paint (should of been chalk paint my mistake) you got out of your car and ran your finger over it why? Paint is paint? Madness if you ask me? And as for rhos on sea club I was spectator supporting a friend that isn’t even in rhos on sea club, if you looked i wrote a few clubs names on the road ? i take it you lot didn’t watch tour of Britain or Italy or France or Poland etc., well this was the Great Orme race which is getting bigger every year was my first year at the event and it really shows Llandudno’s good side (there isn’t many) so that’s my rant over stop moaning and complaining and it will be gone as long as the weather stay dry sorry again!!!!!


Regards
Spectator of the great orme race 
 $walesflag$

So you have admitted criminal damage, being so stupid as not to know what kind of paint it is seems like no defence at all! Hopefully you will be happy to pay CBCC to clean it up!
Before you start off again I have no problem with the cycle race, good luck to them!  :cyclist40:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 04:25:57 pm
As it was becoming clear this is now a major issue, a high level Investigation Team from the Three Towns Forum was dispatched to the Marine Drive this afternoon, with instructions to both investigate the nature of the graffiti and assess how easy its removal would be.

Our investigation revealed that the paint used was permanent and resisted Fester's best efforts to remove it (pic 1). There also appeared to be a gratuitous use of Elvis lyrics in the second example, which forced Fester to adopt a suitably Elvish pose (pic 2).

In conclusion, the Team said that the paint would require a high power pressure washer to remove it. We wish 'getalife' all the best in finding a suitable electric socket to plug one in on the Marine Drive and trust that he will not mind CCBC sending him a bill if they have to remove it all.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 03, 2013, 05:18:35 pm
 $good$
Well done lads !

 _))* _))* _))*

Was that Mr Muscle?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2013, 05:20:42 pm
 _))*  getalife will also need a very long hose pipe for the pressure washer! Perhaps Kowalski can assist?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on October 03, 2013, 06:26:28 pm
Would it burn off? With a Corby Trouser Press perhaps!?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2013, 06:36:27 pm
The trouser press does not get hot enough, no 13 Amp sockets available either!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 03, 2013, 06:46:08 pm
the EDL visit was unimportant in the general scheme of things.

Welcome to Llandudno, the Queen of Welsh Resorts. You'll love it!!!! Graffiti is unacceptable but they don't mind a bit of Anti-Muslim racism.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on October 03, 2013, 06:54:55 pm
Bodhyfred rd closes on the 21 oct till May for the Clarence,i wonder if they are getting a proper firm in or is it continuing with such a mish mash of workers.The police will have a bit of a diversion to get to the nice folk,i see another vresident of Bodhyfred rd has been done for having a knife,why are all the dregges being housed in Llandudno.

If you think Llandudno gets all the dregges I suggest you visit the Rothesey Hotel in Colwyn Bay (or the shelter on the prom across the road)  :o.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2013, 07:13:36 pm
the EDL visit was unimportant in the general scheme of things.

Welcome to Llandudno, the Queen of Welsh Resorts. You'll love it!!!! Graffiti is unacceptable but they don't mind a bit of Anti-Muslim racism.

Excuse me, full quote please

Maybe thats because no one commented that the EDL visit was unimportant in the general scheme of things.

No factual evidence of any anti muslim racism whatsoever because there isn't any .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 03, 2013, 07:22:27 pm
The EDL would have been the ones displaying anti-Muslim racism because that's what they do wherever they go.

If their march had been held in August there would have been vocal and unashamed anti-Muslim racism on the streets of Llandudno, how the hell can you say that a racist gathering such as that is, or would have been, "unimportant in the general scheme of things"?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2013, 07:38:30 pm
Perhaps you feel the Muslims who protest against our armed forces are fine! I for one do not! More to the point why have you felt the need to raise the subject of Muslims when we are talking about totally unrelated graffiti, is it just to get a response?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2013, 07:43:05 pm
The EDL would have been the ones displaying anti-Muslim racism because that's what they do wherever they go.

If their march had been held in August there would have been vocal and unashamed anti-Muslim racism on the streets of Llandudno, how the hell can you say that a racist gathering such as that is, or would have been, "unimportant in the general scheme of things"?
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2013, 07:44:59 pm
You obviously only read the bits you want to,

I said no one commented that the EDL visit was unimportant

Totally different.

For the record the EDL march was cancelled due to lack of local support. They went elsewhere instead, Blackpool I believe.
That demonstrates there is no truth in your suggestion about racism locally.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 03, 2013, 08:20:33 pm
I made no suggestion of racism in Llandudno, I've lived in the town for 37 years and I know that racism is virtually non-existent.

If you're wondering why I brought up the proposed EDL march, and anti-Muslim racism, I'm a little amazed that people can consider graffiti to be a problem and a potential EDL march to be unimportant.  (I'm sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick I'm a little confused about what you're actually trying to say with this this sentence "Maybe thats because no one commented that the EDL visit was unimportant in the general scheme of things." )

I'm really sorry if I've misread things but I only had the evidence of this message board's contents to go on. I looked through all the likely topics on this forum from the time of the "protest" announcement until the time of its cancellation for evidence of condemnation of the EDL march. I hoped that I'd find something along the lines of  "A daytrip for racist thugs that has no place in society, never mind Llandudno" but alas I didn't. There are instant condemnations of graffiti however.

Weird, no.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 08:30:50 pm
If you visited the Forum a little more regularly, you'll know that we did discuss it extensively at the time it was announced and no-one was in favour of it. In your eagerness to criticise us, you must have overlooked it.  :roll:

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1602.msg61474.html#msg61474 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1602.msg61474.html#msg61474)

My own comment at the time was:

"Both groups are from well outside the area and just seem to be using Llandudno as a playground. I suggest they both b****r off. "

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 03, 2013, 08:38:05 pm
I made no suggestion of racism in Llandudno, I've lived in the town for 37 years and I know that racism is virtually non-existent.

If you're wondering why I brought up the proposed EDL march, and anti-Muslim racism, I'm a little amazed that people can consider graffiti to be a problem and a potential EDL march to be unimportant.  (I'm sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick I'm a little confused about what you're actually trying to say with this this sentence "Maybe thats because no one commented that the EDL visit was unimportant in the general scheme of things." )

I'm really sorry if I've misread things but I only had the evidence of this message board's contents to go on. I looked through all the likely topics on this forum from the time of the "protest" announcement until the time of its cancellation for evidence of condemnation of the EDL march. I hoped that I'd find something along the lines of  "A daytrip for racist thugs that has no place in society, never mind Llandudno" but alas I didn't. There are instant condemnations of graffiti however.

Weird, no.

Just because you saw nothing in print on the Forum doesn’t mean its members were apathetic to the proposed EDL visit, I along with a great many others was totally opposed to them using our town as a platform for their racist filth and choose to object in a far more effective manner.
As to the graffiti incident, the guy responsible has apologised and said he made a mistake and will clean it up. Good for him, I’m pleased he has seen the error of his action. Now let’s see how long it takes for him to live up to his words
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 03, 2013, 08:43:01 pm
In the thread quoted by Dave there's seems to be a total of three comments against The EDL's protest, the comment that was quoted, a post from Big Alan and another comment;

"Frankly, I don't want either group in Llandudno, disrupting trade in the town."

That's the extent of the condemnation. Where's the "I don't want to see fascists in Llandudno" or "I don't want to see racists on the streets of Llandudno."?

If people cared about Llandudno there should have been posts condemning the EDL's "protest". There weren't, not even in the thread called "Scum".
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 08:45:24 pm
Yeah but where the posts on here condemning the EDL's "protest".

In the thread quoted there's seems to be a total of three comments against The EDL's protest, the comment that was quoted, a post from Big Alan and another comment;

"Frankly, I don't want either group in Llandudno, disrupting trade in the town."

That's the extent of the condemnation. Where's the "I don't want to see fascists in Llandudno" or "I don't want to see racists on the streets of Llandudno."?
Well, you were a Member of the Forum at the time - so I guess the question that needs to be asked is....where was YOUR  comment condemning it?  ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 03, 2013, 08:50:44 pm
The "protest" was mentioned without my help.

Why didn't you include the EDL protest in your "Scum" thread? After all the EDL fits the name of the thread perfectly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 03, 2013, 09:06:07 pm
The "protest" was mentioned without my help.
I guess all the other Forum members who didn't comment felt the same as you then?

Quote from: Kowalski
Why didn't you include the EDL protest in your "Scum" thread? After all the EDL fits the name of the thread perfectly.
Again, there was nothing to stop you posting on the matter in the 'Scum' or any other thread. As you hold such strong opinions, I'm amazed that you didn't bother to make any comment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2013, 09:33:57 pm
I'm suspecting that Kowalski seems to be a communist of some sort?  The story about the EDL has no connection whatsoever with the Marine Drive graffiti, why the obsession with a protest that didn't happen?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 03, 2013, 09:45:59 pm
You'll have to excuse me I assumed that if I linked two ideas people would be able to clearly see the implication that I was trying to make.

God forbid, a Communist in the Queen of Welsh Resorts!!!! A putrid worm in the core of the family resort of Llandudno!!!! Quick call Eugene McCarthy and the Daily Mail.

Having lived in Llandudno for 37 years I thought I knew all that I possibly could know about "my" small town, turn's out Llandudno ain't "my" small town anymore.

I think this is what they used to call a Naked Lunch moment..................What the hell am I doing here?

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 03, 2013, 09:49:20 pm
Get the Hell out of the place then!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on October 03, 2013, 09:55:04 pm
Resa_Malin, missed your post yesterday, but having read it today thought came to me why don't you get the trouser press off ME to help with your more pressing cases
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 04, 2013, 06:40:25 am
 L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 04, 2013, 09:09:51 am
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As to the graffiti incident, the guy responsible has apologised and said he made a mistake and will clean it up. Good for him, I’m pleased he has seen the error of his action

Ah, so you think he apologised?  But his username says a lot about his attitude, he used a fake  email address and may well have used someone else's computer to post. He admitted to a crime, and we have his IP address in the log, but if he used someone else's computer, then it would make it harder to identify him, should the need arise.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 04, 2013, 09:11:06 am
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You'll have to excuse me I assumed that if I linked two ideas people would be able to clearly see the implication that I was trying to make.

But you didn't link two ideas, you conflated them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 04, 2013, 09:34:31 am
Where are the rally fans going to spray their messages of support.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2013, 09:37:36 am
Where are the rally fans going to spray their messages of support.
Kowalski said it was ok to use the side of his house as he didn't think graffiti was a big deal....  $good$  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 04, 2013, 09:51:55 am
Where are the rally fans going to spray their messages of support.
Kowalski said it was ok to use the side of his house as he didn't think graffiti was a big deal....  $good$  :laugh:

 $good$ make sure to use RED paint!   :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 04, 2013, 10:04:58 am
Bog island to be renamed Alice Liddel gardens,what about that then,after knocking down the Gogarth hotel CCBC and the Town council ars really getting behind the Alice theme,just get the Alice lights back up,i think we paid for them so get them back up,what did happen to them?.Yorkie can you ask the question please.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: getalife on October 04, 2013, 10:06:55 am
Went up to see what product would remove the paint the best in the threetown cheerleading team wants to check the first spray maker you come to has been partly removed this because of the wet weather the product doesn't work aswell in the wet, it will be gone by next friday we have a week of dry weather, and IAN I only did that use a fake email and username to protect myself from interfearing busy bodies like yourself but feel free to trace me  ££$ I don't mind already spoken to the police and the council and as long as I clean up there is nothing you can do and graffiti is not classed as this a PRIVATE ROAD !!!! ! So grow up and annoy someone else !!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 04, 2013, 10:10:22 am
I remember the Alice lights going up and then they nearly demolished the Clarence hotel,so down they came,never to be seen or heard of again,well now is the time for them to reappear as all the light fittings have been fixed and paid for by us so they can put the Alice lights back up now,whoppee
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 04, 2013, 10:15:13 am
Spoken to the Police & Council, have you? Yes, sure you have, son.  :laugh:

Criminal damage is criminal damage, regardless of whether it's on public or private property. Did no-one tell you that?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 04, 2013, 10:16:17 am
Will the Alice footprits be painted onto the pavement WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 04, 2013, 10:19:55 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hatch,_Beatrice_(Lewis_Carroll,_30.07.1873).jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hatch,_Beatrice_(Lewis_Carroll,_30.07.1873).jpg)

Not sure Llandudno should be that keen on the Carroll/Dodgson and Alice connections really. Might just come back to haunt us.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: getalife on October 04, 2013, 10:31:26 am
You really should seek some advice mate, I don't mind you calling me a lair I've spoken to both parties and they both told me about this little debate on here and said it would be a good idea for me apologise on here to try make peace but its falling on deaf ear like normal. Why did I bother really I could just leave the whole thing and dissappear as you will find it hard to find/trace me and proving it would be difficult without a confession or evidence ? , so play the game be nice and by friday this will all be over ? And as its not a public road your say doesnt really count as you dont own it, the person that owns it cant prosecute !!!! But ive gave you all my word it will be done so it will be
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 04, 2013, 10:41:22 am
Bit late for that now Dave,its just a shame our councils always balls it up bigstyle.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on October 04, 2013, 11:09:50 am
It's as Dave says, criminal damage is just that irrespective of ownership.  The Marine Drive is publicly owned even though it is not a public highway. 

Oh and does Kowalski mean Joe McCarthy.  Eugene McCarthy was a lefty Democrat who unsuccessfully stood against Nixon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 04, 2013, 02:32:47 pm
I think he did mean Joe!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 04, 2013, 09:58:07 pm
I reckon Getalife is a pretty genuine type judging by his posts, and I have a feeling that he will get the job done.  Not sure how though, but fair play.

Conversely, its obvious that Kowalski is a rampant attention seeker, irrespective of anyone's politics, (but surely we all hate the EDL and we all feared what would happen if their protest went ahead)
Everytime I read any of his posts I am confused, as he simply links entirely unrelated issues and then looks to cause controversy by uttering mild insults and innuendo.

Now, Admins, ...on other Forum's I use, there is a 'filter' facility.  When you filter another member, you save yourself valuable time and hassle from having to read their inane drivel
Does such a filter facility exist with the functionality of this Forum?   If so, can you throw the switch please!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: 1_rob_1 on October 04, 2013, 10:13:38 pm
Re: getalife
Give the guy a break!!
He has admitted that he sprayed the "graffiti" on the road.
This is not illegal as long as the landlord is asked for his approval in the first place - it is a private road. - If not, then it is up to the landlord to object/approve/press charges, for abuse of his land.

He has come forward 'willingly' to accept all responsibility to to the "graffiti" spraying, & has also said that he will remove all traces of the spray painting. He has also accepted that the wrong paint was used - whether knowingly or not.

Dont condemn him to quickly & give him a little time to remove the "graffiti"

If its not done when promised, then he can be "condemned"
If it is done when promised, then you can trust this organization to host future events in the town.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on October 04, 2013, 10:55:55 pm
re-Getalife. give him a break,  We all make mistakes in life
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Reza_Malin on October 04, 2013, 11:45:38 pm
Re. Getalife - good for you in having the courage to come forward and admit you made a mistake. That is a rare commodity in today's life. Like others, I believe you are genuine in your intent and will make good your promise. However, I'm afraid that will probably not satisfy your detractors who seem to revel in twisting and spinning anything that's posted. It's a shame that the narrow view cannot be expanded to discuss the merit of the races.  I believe it was quite the success.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 05, 2013, 12:48:33 am
Conversely, its obvious that Kowalski is a rampant attention seeker, irrespective of anyone's politics, (but surely we all hate the EDL and we all feared what would happen if their protest went ahead)
Everytime I read any of his posts I am confused, as he simply links entirely unrelated issues and then looks to cause controversy by uttering mild insults and innuendo.

For about 35 years I thought that Llandudno was the peaceful place in which I had grown up, it was home, it was lovely.

Then I discovered The "Thoughts of Oscar" blog, then I discovered the threads about "scum" and foreign aid on this forum. All of a sudden Llandudno started to feel decidedly less lovely through the filter of these spirit-crushing vortices.

Why would I seek the attention of a clique whose spite and petty-mindedness have caused me to doubt my feelings about my hometown? Far from craving your attention I wish I'd never stumbled across this message board.

Cue the pithy putdowns and pop psychoanalysis..........
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2013, 07:24:14 am
We occasionally get the odd person on the Forum who pops up and says he doesn't like this or that. My comment to them is always the same..."if you don't like it, don't read it".
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 05, 2013, 08:36:30 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hatch,_Beatrice_(Lewis_Carroll,_30.07.1873).jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hatch,_Beatrice_(Lewis_Carroll,_30.07.1873).jpg)

Not sure Llandudno should be that keen on the Carroll/Dodgson and Alice connections really. Might just come back to haunt us.

I feel trouble ahead, having read what some of Oscar's followers have to say.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2013, 09:46:24 am
I don't really see the point of the name change, to be honest. It will still remain 'Bog Island' to all the locals anyway. Trying to create more of an Alice theme when there's nothing tangible really left (i.e. Penmorfa) will have limited success, I feel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 05, 2013, 10:00:46 am
Reminds me of the excited tourists I was chatting to the other day.

Clutching handbooks, they were asking for directions to the Story Tellers Chair, Happy Valley, etc.... and the pinnacle of their visit, the Pen Morfa 'Alice' house....   &shake&

If those in authority could do nothing to preserve that excellent building, then why should they be able to elicit any kind of success from some half-arsed 're-naming' venture?

The horse long since left the stable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 05, 2013, 10:53:24 am
Agreed Fester---Horse Gate and Bolted comes to mind.

If people do find the Penmorfa site it looks more like a builder's yard-- which it seems to be.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 05, 2013, 12:08:29 pm
We occasionally get the odd person on the Forum who pops up and says he doesn't like this or that. My comment to them is always the same..."if you don't like it, don't read it".

A better comment is "If you don't like it challenge it"

But it seems if anybody, like Kowalski, dares to swim against the tide on here they get completely trashed and they themselves (not just their opinions) are normally labelled somewhere along the following "Pathetic" "Attention seeking" "Just out to get a reaction" etc etc

Surely you can be sensible enough to accept that if someone has a different opinion to you it doesn't necessarily mean they are just out to cause trouble! It may just mean they have a different opinion to you I don't understand why that is so difficult for some of the forum mafia to accept!

I like it when opinions clash, and I know Fester does as well. I'd much rather read an interesting debate than 9 pages about trees or gardens or whatever. It's a shame that almost as soon as anyone interesting pops up they are driven away with a bombardment of often unnaceptable vitriol
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 05, 2013, 03:07:23 pm
Kowalski has thrown his toys out the pram!

http://llandudnojetset.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/our-old-name-no-longer-reflects-our-thinking/ (http://llandudnojetset.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/our-old-name-no-longer-reflects-our-thinking/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2013, 03:50:51 pm
Kowalski has thrown his toys out the pram!

http://llandudnojetset.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/our-old-name-no-longer-reflects-our-thinking/ (http://llandudnojetset.wordpress.com/2013/10/05/our-old-name-no-longer-reflects-our-thinking/)
It's interesting how he refers to himself in the plural, isn't it. Why do you imagine he does that?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2013, 04:01:50 pm
We occasionally get the odd person on the Forum who pops up and says he doesn't like this or that. My comment to them is always the same..."if you don't like it, don't read it".

A better comment is "If you don't like it challenge it"

But it seems if anybody, like Kowalski, dares to swim against the tide on here they get completely trashed and they themselves (not just their opinions) are normally labelled somewhere along the following "Pathetic" "Attention seeking" "Just out to get a reaction" etc etc

Surely you can be sensible enough to accept that if someone has a different opinion to you it doesn't necessarily mean they are just out to cause trouble! It may just mean they have a different opinion to you I don't understand why that is so difficult for some of the forum mafia to accept!

I like it when opinions clash, and I know Fester does as well. I'd much rather read an interesting debate than 9 pages about trees or gardens or whatever. It's a shame that almost as soon as anyone interesting pops up they are driven away with a bombardment of often unnaceptable vitriol
To be fair, and as you well know, we've had plenty of interesting debates on here that haven't turned remotely nasty. And the thing is this....the content of Forum is directly down to the Members. What you might refer to as a 'forum mafia' are, in fact, those members that can be bothered to contribute. There's nothing to stop you or anyone else contributing a bit more to even out the balance is there?

With regards to Kowalski, the classic example was where he roundly condemned the Forum members for failing to speak out against the proposed EDL Rally, even though he himself had not bothered to comment on the issue at the time it was raised!

I also can't see how referring to Forum members as 'a clique whose spite and petty-mindedness have caused me to doubt my feelings about my hometown' can be construed as anything other than a personal attack on the rest of us either?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 05, 2013, 06:09:29 pm
Not sure what the hell all the fuss is about and the only plass that flag appears at is Bangor City games,don;t think Llandudno fc get much support from anybody in this town,shall i drop the Llandudno out of the Extravaganza and call it the North Wales extravaganza,sometimes i can;t work out my fellow towners.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 05, 2013, 08:22:17 pm
We occasionally get the odd person on the Forum who pops up and says he doesn't like this or that. My comment to them is always the same..."if you don't like it, don't read it".

A better comment is "If you don't like it challenge it"

But it seems if anybody, like Kowalski, dares to swim against the tide on here they get completely trashed and they themselves (not just their opinions) are normally labelled somewhere along the following "Pathetic" "Attention seeking" "Just out to get a reaction" etc etc

Surely you can be sensible enough to accept that if someone has a different opinion to you it doesn't necessarily mean they are just out to cause trouble! It may just mean they have a different opinion to you I don't understand why that is so difficult for some of the forum mafia to accept!

I like it when opinions clash, and I know Fester does as well. I'd much rather read an interesting debate than 9 pages about trees or gardens or whatever. It's a shame that almost as soon as anyone interesting pops up they are driven away with a bombardment of often unnaceptable vitriol
To be fair, and as you well know, we've had plenty of interesting debates on here that haven't turned remotely nasty. And the thing is this....the content of Forum is directly down to the Members. What you might refer to as a 'forum mafia' are, in fact, those members that can be bothered to contribute. There's nothing to stop you or anyone else contributing a bit more to even out the balance is there?

With regards to Kowalski, the classic example was where he roundly condemned the Forum members for failing to speak out against the proposed EDL Rally, even though he himself had not bothered to comment on the issue at the time it was raised!

I also can't see how referring to Forum members as 'a clique whose spite and petty-mindedness have caused me to doubt my feelings about my hometown' can be construed as anything other than a personal attack on the rest of us either?
Hear hear Dave.
Some of us keep our fingers on the pulse and I think that the majority try to play fair.
You can please some of the people etc.
 8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 05, 2013, 08:25:27 pm
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But it seems if anybody, like Kowalski, dares to swim against the tide on here they get completely trashed and they themselves (not just their opinions) are normally labelled somewhere along the following "Pathetic" "Attention seeking" "Just out to get a reaction" etc etc

This is fairly common in any society, though, and is particularly strong in 'fraternal' organisations such as Trades Unions. As Dave says, however, the members themselves determine the cultural content of this site, and Dave and I actually have significantly different views on many things so the Admin side of things is reasonably balanced, I think. The massive problem with any forum is that the written word is devoid of any of the associated clues on which language depends. For instance, it can be perfectly okay to tell someone to "B***er Off" in a friendly way, but that comes over very differently when there are no clues, such as intonation, inflexion or any of the hundreds of minute expressions we all use, mostly without realising.  We also have to accept that folk with various conditions, such as Asperger's or Tourettes, might well become members. From the Gt Ormond St hospital:

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This might mean that difficulties with social interaction can include not understanding the subtleties of social situations, recognising and interpreting other people’s feelings, managing emotions or making and maintaining friendships.

Difficulties with social communication tend to encompass problems with using and understanding verbal and non verbal language, such as modulating tone of voice and gestures.

We're all somewhere on the Autism scale: it can be interesting to see how you fare  (http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on October 05, 2013, 08:36:14 pm





I like it when opinions clash, and I know Fester does as well. I'd much rather read an interesting debate than 9 pages about trees or gardens or whatever.


Surely we all have a choice of what to read from the list of topics? I would never bother clicking on the politics thread because that doesn't interest me. We are all different and that is a good thing but I would never belittle anyone for having a different interest.
Like DaveR says it would be great if more people would contribute in whatever way because that would give the forum more variety.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 05, 2013, 09:36:22 pm
We also have to accept that folk with various conditions, such as  Tourettes, might well become members.


I would just LOVE IT if that were to ever happen.

You would have to disable the word-filter thingy, to allow swear words, or you may be accused of discrimination!

Then.... it would be hilarious!   _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2013, 10:00:19 pm
Surely Tourettes is a spoken affliction, rather than written?! Anyway, anyone who's ever had a conversation with Fester would not find a Tourette's sufferer worrying at all.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 05, 2013, 10:01:38 pm
I have been interested to read all the recent postings on this thread and cannot let things go without comment.

I have certainly noticed that some contributors are very quick to correct mistakes, and often things that are NOT mistakes, of others, possibly in an effort to display the idea that they have superior knowledge of the matter, item, or what ever is under discussion.   I could name names but I am positive those I refer to know who they are.

I will also admit to displaying some of my own knowledge when I consider circumstances are right to do so!   Maybe I too, am one of those who . . . . . . . . .!
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 05, 2013, 10:08:58 pm
Surely Tourettes is a spoken affliction, rather than written?! Anyway, anyone who's ever had a conversation with Fester would not find a Tourette's sufferer worrying at all.  :laugh:

So, Dave you are saying that you WOULD discriminate against a mute Tourette's sufferer, one who needed to express himself in the written word?   You have obviously not thought this through.  :laugh:

Yorkie, your last post  is as much of a mystery to me as many of the Scrabble words you defeat me with!

Kowalski,  (singular or plural) is obviously suffering from schizophrenia.

Admins, neither of you answered my question about a Filter facility within the Forum
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on October 05, 2013, 10:19:38 pm
I try to read every post daily it passes time away and better than reading the papers reporting nothing but things to make you want to top yourself, I don,t comment on most things because it is the view of the individual be it right or wrong and there are a lot out there much wiser than me, So why oh why do members let people get to them instead of ignoring them. If the post is not to your liking move on to the next one it makes life a lot easier and you make less enemies .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 05, 2013, 11:41:52 pm

Kowalski,  (singular or plural) is obviously suffering from schizophrenia.


I see you opted for the method of conflict resolution that's used by 99% of the world's great statesman, namely "If you become involved in a disagreement make sure you're the first one to claim the other party has mental health issues."

I hate to do this, I really do, but you seem made the layman's mistake. You appear to have confused "Schizophrenia" (more of a generalized definition for "a severe form of mental illness that affects about 7 per thousand of the adult population." - WHO definition) with "Dissociative Identity Disorder".

Is it really too much to ask that people actually know what they're talking about BEFORE they offer insults?

Having said that, congratulations for following the instructions at the bottom of my last post;

Cue the pithy putdowns and pop psychoanalysis..........

In fact you went even better than following my instructions you fulfilled BOTH of the points with ONE insult. The insult was both"pithy" and a piece of "pop psychoanalysis". So yeah, well done for that.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 06, 2013, 07:57:44 am
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Surely Tourettes is a spoken affliction

Not necessarily. It's a pretty broad syndrome which can manifest itself in any one of a dozen ways, not all of which include speaking. But it's a serious issue, as are all mental health problems.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 06, 2013, 08:14:22 am
Admins, neither of you answered my question about a Filter facility within the Forum
Such a feature is not available, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 06, 2013, 08:33:41 am
I try to read every post daily it passes time away and better than reading the papers reporting nothing but things to make you want to top yourself, I don,t comment on most things because it is the view of the individual be it right or wrong and there are a lot out there much wiser than me, So why oh why do members let people get to them instead of ignoring them. If the post is not to your liking move on to the next one it makes life a lot easier and you make less enemies .

Well said Snowcap. The more you argue with some people the more they enjoy it ! Diplomatic silence frustrates them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gaylord Screwsby on October 06, 2013, 05:24:07 pm
Just out of interest what is Llandudno like right now? Visiting in about three weeks time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on October 06, 2013, 09:52:50 pm
Just out of interest what is Llandudno like right now? Visiting in about three weeks time.

It's fine....just avoid Marine Drive as it will be covered in paint stripper.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 06, 2013, 10:48:38 pm
Just out of interest what is Llandudno like right now? Visiting in about three weeks time.

It's fine....just avoid Marine Drive as it will be covered in paint stripper.

Ha ha.... nice one Major Mellons.  :laugh:

Kowalski, I apologise if I misdiagnosed your emotional state.
Unlike you, I have no formal qualifications in the field of mental health. 
Seeing as I don't know what I'm talking about, I bow to your superior knowledge, due to your Doctorate, PhD, or whatever it is you hold.   Which University did you graduate from by the way? just out of interest?
Seeing as my knowledge is so limited, I will just constrain my self to what I do know as fact.  You are quite simply just full of your own self-importance, (and full of other stuff too)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Kowalski on October 06, 2013, 11:54:48 pm
I must tell you something Fester, I'm in a quandary.

On the one hand; I want to keep going because I'm playing "Hackneyed Message Board Insult Bingo" and I'm on a roll -  I'm only one away from a line, and three away from a full card.

On the other hand; I want to break this cycle.

I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll go for the second choice.

Therefore in the spirit of good relations I'd like to be apologise. so here goes......

I'm really sorry that I had the unmitigated gall to be labeled "Schizophrenic" by your good self.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 07, 2013, 07:22:15 am
 _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 07, 2013, 07:25:43 am
Is that the end of this subject now,can we move onto Alice or CCBC OR ANYTHING.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 07, 2013, 09:59:50 am
good idea

 $good$

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24426048 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24426048)

discount card for locals - good idea?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 07, 2013, 10:07:30 am
Is that the end of this subject now,can we move onto Alice or CCBC OR ANYTHING.

I believe we are having 74 adverts around for Alice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 07, 2013, 10:13:45 am
good idea

 $good$

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24426048 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24426048)

discount card for locals - good idea?
It's a great idea, I think, will certainly boost local businesses out of season.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 07, 2013, 11:06:35 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24426048 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24426048)

discount card for locals - good idea?

Sounds good when you first look at it BUT.  I had an attractions card from North Wales Tourism that got me free entry into all the Attractions in Wales, not just Conwy.

The card was for me to check out and see for myself what each attraction had to offer so that I could then pass on that information first hand, to my guests.

Sounds good so far but the trouble with it was, when the attractions were open, so was I and as a consequence it never got used. :-}}}
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 07, 2013, 12:13:06 pm
Perhaps pubs should do the same, as soon as winter hits there's more life in a tramp's vest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 07, 2013, 01:31:11 pm
Nice expression BTR,  I like it.       _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 07, 2013, 04:45:35 pm
Old Oscar is really ripping into the Alice gang at the moment,i must be honest i have no problem with the idea but it does seem to be take,take ,take and no giving.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on October 07, 2013, 09:21:52 pm
A better class of of road artist at higher class cycling events in France!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 08, 2013, 08:58:38 am
Seen in Llandudno yesterday by Twitter user Kevin Barlow:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on October 08, 2013, 09:23:42 am
Hey DaveR, where were you with your camera?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 08, 2013, 10:14:47 am
Old Oscar is really ripping into the Alice gang at the moment,i must be honest i have no problem with the idea but it does seem to be take,take ,take and no giving.

Just read the planning notice in Happy Valley --17 rabbit figures and 40 odd plaques in the pavement. Plaques  look OK on the planning which Oscar gave the link to, but can't say the same for the rabbits !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 08, 2013, 10:27:46 am
Old Oscar is really ripping into the Alice gang at the moment,i must be honest i have no problem with the idea but it does seem to be take,take ,take and no giving.

Just read the planning notice in Happy Valley --17 rabbit figures and 40 odd plaques in the pavement. Plaques  look OK on the planning which Oscar gave the link to, but can't say the same for the rabbits !
I think we run the danger of over egging the Alice pudding, to be honest. The town's connections with Alice were tenuous at best, the main physical link (Penmorfa) has gone, so what's left really? The Rabbits in the photo illustrations provided as part of the Planning Application look a little ridiculous, I think.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 08, 2013, 10:52:08 am
Who's the bird in the Twitter picture?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 08, 2013, 11:14:08 am
Who's the bird in the Twitter picture?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Polizzi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Polizzi)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 08, 2013, 11:23:08 am
Oh yeah... I heard she was in The Chatsworth yesterday.   :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 08, 2013, 11:29:46 am
Oh yeah... I heard she was in The Chatsworth yesterday.   :-X :-X :-X
There was speculation on the Forum recently that it was the Alexandra.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: 1_rob_1 on October 08, 2013, 12:02:12 pm
The Alexandra is way beyond saving while the current owner/manager is in charge.
If she takes this hotel on, she will be fighting a losing battle.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 08, 2013, 01:40:08 pm
Oh yeah... I heard she was in The Chatsworth yesterday.   :-X :-X :-X
That should keep her busy for a while.  Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 08, 2013, 07:54:21 pm
   Getting back to the "Alice" business recently discussed.

   I've had TWO invitations from two different sources to attend  function at the St Georges Hotel. A.L.I.C.E. Ltd presentations.

   Digital e-tour and town trail.

  Video promotion.

 Challenges

 App ideas

  etc etc etc.

   Plus ---- REFRESHMENTS
    I've been asked by barry@badgersgroup.c.uk.

   Remind me not to have too much lunch on a certain date next week.    Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 08, 2013, 08:08:14 pm
mmm--the Charity Shop which I help also had an invitation.
Hope they aren't expecting a hand out from that direction. :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 08, 2013, 08:34:59 pm
   Are you intending to go?   If so, thats it, to hell with the food. I'm definitely going.  Mike   (P.S. to Mr Nemesis. Only joking, honest)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 08, 2013, 08:44:30 pm
Don't think so Mike, not that Mr Nemesis would mind ! :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 10, 2013, 05:32:33 pm
No news in the NWWN i take it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 10, 2013, 08:58:24 pm
  Thought I might uplift all you TTF people from you trouser press obsession.

   With a bit of serious writing.

  How about this then.  A very, very local housing association is doing its bit in upgrading its properties.

  So, its contracted a local firm  (i.e. with offices in the Conwy area) to do a bit of roof renovation, amongst many other things.

   So workers start. All wearing high vis coats with the name of this firm on their backs.

  But, so I am told by some of them. They don't work for this firm. They just do the job --- and wear the coat.

   Who or where are they from?   The Black Country.    How do they travel?   They don't.

   They stay in a certain camp in Kinmel Bay. I know the name, but don't fancy disclosing it.

    Any more relevations and I might find myself in a bit of trouble.      Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on October 10, 2013, 10:19:59 pm
Not wanting to disclose anything either but my sister who lives in a housing association house that has recently been renovated did happen to mention the folk working on hers had problems with the english and welsh language ,thus not understanding her when she asked them  to look after her garden and pots etc. Instead they trampled and left all their mess everywhere.Taken her all summer to clear it. She told me there wasnt a local lad among them sadly. We do have so many locals looking for work thats doesnt seem right if the labour is being brought in.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 11, 2013, 07:26:48 am
Thats Cartrefi for you.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on October 11, 2013, 10:06:44 am
Oh yeah... I heard she was in The Chatsworth yesterday.   :-X :-X :-X
There was speculation on the Forum recently that it was the Alexandra.

Confirmed as the Alexandra by the Daily Post.  Looking forward to seeing Basil Fawlty on the tele next year  :D.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tvs-hotel-inspector-helping-llandudno-6172111 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tvs-hotel-inspector-helping-llandudno-6172111)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 11, 2013, 08:13:18 pm
I have to admit that i never did go down the Alice museum,Ian Turner put up an interview with Muriel and showed us around,now as we know Barry Mortlock has aquired all the collection but at the moment has no plans to open anywhere,what a shame there is no investment in his project.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 13, 2013, 11:19:42 am
I walked up Bodhyfred rd this morning obviously having a nose at the back of the Clarence and i could not believe the state of the flats along there ,they looked like slums,can CCBC not force landlords to maintain properties,such a shame for the decent people who live on the road.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 15, 2013, 06:01:09 pm
Just been round Marine Drive this afternoon, there is still graffiti on the road! What happened to the big clean up?  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 15, 2013, 07:10:15 pm
Just been round Marine Drive this afternoon, there is still graffiti on the road! What happened to the big clean up?  &shake&

The Rhos on Sea Cycling Club had their AGM on the 7th Oct 2013 at the Rhos on Sea Golf Club.  I haven't seen the minutes of that meeting so it might have come up under matters arising or apologies even!   
If he said that he'll clean it up then I'm sure that he will.  Only time will tell if he is as good as his word.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 15, 2013, 07:51:44 pm
I have to admit that i never did go down the Alice museum,Ian Turner put up an interview with Muriel and showed us around,now as we know Barry Mortlock has aquired all the collection but at the moment has no plans to open anywhere,what a shame there is no investment in his project.

What about what has been 'invested' so far ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 15, 2013, 08:10:54 pm
All by the taxpayer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 15, 2013, 08:36:33 pm
Tweedledum and Tweedledee went past me this afternoon, on the back of a lorry, down Llewellyn Avenue-- away from the Haulfre Gardens ! :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 15, 2013, 09:11:56 pm
Maybe they don;t fit,i walked past the old shelter site the otherday and there are eight holes in the ground,oh dear.Is the Cheshire Cat outside the Lilly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 16, 2013, 01:21:45 am
Just been round Marine Drive this afternoon, there is still graffiti on the road! What happened to the big clean up?  &shake&

The Rhos on Sea Cycling Club had their AGM on the 7th Oct 2013 at the Rhos on Sea Golf Club.  I haven't seen the minutes of that meeting so it might have come up under matters arising or apologies even!   
If he said that he'll clean it up then I'm sure that he will.  Only time will tell if he is as good as his word.

The time promised to do it has long since elapsed.
I have a funny feeling that the matter may be taken out of his hands.  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 16, 2013, 08:22:52 am
Re the Cheshire cat-- I haven't been on there this week, but will look when I pass.
Re the Graffiti-- Hope it gets cleaned before the Rally-- not a good image for people from away to see.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 16, 2013, 08:23:48 am
I'm fairly sure that it will require a professional company to remove the graffiti. You'd need a high power pressure washer, generator to power it, cleaning fluid, signs/cones etc to warn motorists that the work was taking place. It'll be an expensive business for 'getalife'...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 16, 2013, 10:15:01 am
Cheshire Cat is in place.

Eeeeek !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on October 16, 2013, 10:24:40 am
I'm fairly sure that it will require a professional company to remove the graffiti. You'd need a high power pressure washer, generator to power it, cleaning fluid, signs/cones etc to warn motorists that the work was taking place. It'll be an expensive business for 'getalife'...

It's nice to see 'getalife' is good to his word and has got it cleaned........oh wait....

I wonder if he'll post a further apology explaining his lack of effort in removing his graffiti.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 16, 2013, 10:56:09 am
A little peek at how Llandudno's new Lifeboat Station will look:

http://www.studiofourarchitects.com/rnli-llandudno-lifeboat-station/ (http://www.studiofourarchitects.com/rnli-llandudno-lifeboat-station/)
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Post by: Blongb on October 16, 2013, 12:39:35 pm
A little peek at how Llandudno's new Lifeboat Station will look:

http://www.studiofourarchitects.com/rnli-llandudno-lifeboat-station/ (http://www.studiofourarchitects.com/rnli-llandudno-lifeboat-station/)

I wish them well and hope it goes through without too much trouble now that it's being put in the right location this time.   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 16, 2013, 08:26:47 pm
   Can I change the subject.

  There is the Orme, the Great Orme, and the Little Orme.  But, is a very unusual name.  When attached to places and when its attached to Surnames.

  So, whats this?  Is it a most remarkable coincidence or is it a printing error.

  Page NINE of the Weekly News d,d. 10/10/13.   "Rare photos of trams." John and Edward Orme" worked for a firm who where engineers constructing the tramway in 1900.

   So, is the Orme named after them. Or did they get the job on the strength of their name?      Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on October 16, 2013, 08:36:47 pm
Both the Great Orme and Orme family derive their names from the same origin, Orme (or 'Ormr') is an old Norse word for Serpent.  Passing Vikings named the headland the Great Orme because from out at sea it resembled a large serpent rising out of the water.  Orme was also used as a surname and members of the Orme family began settling in the UK, including North Wales, over a thousand years ago. 

(I must confess I didn't know all of this but Google was my friend - http://www.orme.ws/genealogy/origins.html. (http://www.orme.ws/genealogy/origins.html.)  I did know the bit about the Great Orme though).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on October 16, 2013, 09:06:01 pm
Can you show the location of the new Lifeboat station on the prom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 16, 2013, 09:08:46 pm
Can you show the location of the new Lifeboat station on the prom.

I think (but I'm guessing) that it's going on the Little Orme side of the paddling pool.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on October 16, 2013, 09:20:44 pm
Would have been better closer to the pier.
With a good shop attached would have been capable of making a considerable contribution to funds.
There are plenty of old hotels, past thier best, and beyond hope, in that area that could have made way for the Lifeboat station.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 16, 2013, 11:04:03 pm
Would have been better closer to the pier.
With a good shop attached would have been capable of making a considerable contribution to funds.
There are plenty of old hotels, past thier best, and beyond hope, in that area that could have made way for the Lifeboat station.

Mull, on the contrary, there are some fantastic examples of architecture in the hotels close to the pier.

I would agree that most have seen better days though, but none are beyond hope... (except perhaps The Grand itself)  :( :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on October 17, 2013, 08:47:33 am
With a good architect it could be blended in and perhaps enhance the area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 17, 2013, 04:37:31 pm
Would have been better closer to the pier.
With a good shop attached would have been capable of making a considerable contribution to funds.
There are plenty of old hotels, past thier best, and beyond hope, in that area that could have made way for the Lifeboat station.

Mull you are so far wide of the mark it beggars belief.

Point 1 "Would have been better closer to the pier" 

No it would not, you do not sight an emergency service right in the middle of the most congested, pedestrianized part of the Promenade.

Point 2 "With a good shop attached would have been capable of making a considerable contribution to funds"

The argument about relocation was to save lives at sea, not to build commercial premises and isn't the RNLI one of Britons riches Charities already?

Point 3 " There are plenty of old hotels, past their best, and beyond hope, in that area that could have made way for the Lifeboat station"

This statement just goes to show how out of touch you are with what Llandudno is all about. It was turned down after 2 Planning decisions and a referral to the
Welsh Assembly went against the application. Which precise Grade II Listed privately owned Hotel do you propose we demolish to make way for a Lifeboat Station
that with the resources we already have along the North Wales Coast isn't even necessary.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 18, 2013, 08:10:13 am
Which precise Grade II Listed privately owned Hotel do you propose we demolish to make way for a Lifeboat Station
that with the resources we already have along the North Wales Coast isn't even necessary.

It is well known that the Llandudno Lifeboat, whilst performing some life saving duties is, purely by its location, one of the biggest fund raisers the RNLI have.   As B says there are plenty of others covering the North Wales area.   
 $walesflag$

The Inshore Lifeboat seems to perform the majority of "local" rescues.   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2013, 08:17:35 am
I'm sure that if any of us were in difficulties in the sea off Llandudno, we'd be very glad to see the Llandudno Lifeboat heading towards us! Without it, response times in emergencies would surely be considerably greater.

The new Lifeboat Station is in the right place, I feel, and they will have the shop in St Georges Place for fundraising. I wonder if they will still be able to take the Lifeboat for display/fundraising on the Prom on Summer Sundays like they do presently?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 18, 2013, 09:27:45 am
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isn't the RNLI one of Britons riches Charities already?

Not even close.  Here's the ten richest in the UK, with the first figure showing their income for 2011 and the second figure their charitable expenditure during the same period. (All amounts are in millions of GBPs)

1   British Council           645      701   
2      The Arts Council    594      583
3   Nuffield Health    553      582
4   Cancer Research   498      317
5   National Trust           386      345
6   CITB - Construction Skills   317   326
7   Oxfam                   308      234
8   Anchor Trust           273      271
9   Save the Children   216   179
10   United Church Schools Foundation   214   171

The RNLI's income for 2012 was 172 and charitable expenditure was 117.
However, the RNL:I is perhaps in a different position to many charities, in that it has (of necessity) to carry a significant capital expenditure (you can't really rescue people at sea without very fast and preferably very well-maintained boats).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on October 18, 2013, 09:37:00 am
How about biggest landowners. The Queen, The Prudential and The Church of England in no particular order.
The first and second are always pleading poverty and pay their staff peanuts.   &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2013, 12:37:43 pm
I'm fairly sure that it will require a professional company to remove the graffiti. You'd need a high power pressure washer, generator to power it, cleaning fluid, signs/cones etc to warn motorists that the work was taking place. It'll be an expensive business for 'getalife'...

It's nice to see 'getalife' is good to his word and has got it cleaned........oh wait....

I wonder if he'll post a further apology explaining his lack of effort in removing his graffiti.
I popped into the Rest & Be Thankful with Fester this morning, and on the way up the Marine Drive, we noticed that someone had poured what looked like oil over the first piece of graffiti, daubed a bit on the second piece and then given up. All the other graffiti is still present.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 18, 2013, 12:41:11 pm
Easy solution.

A completr ban on the Cycling Club in question holding events on any road within the Conwy County boundary.  And a bill be sent to the Club for the graffiti to be removed.

 *cycle* *cycle* *cycle* *cycle* *cycle* *cycle*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 18, 2013, 12:47:55 pm
I don't really think it's fair to blame the cycling club for the actions of one person who may not even be a member. Also, the event itself is a worthy addition to Llandudno. However, the person responsible needs to foot the bill for the removal of the graffiti and face whatever sanctions CCBC decide, whether civil or criminal, without a doubt.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 18, 2013, 01:20:33 pm
I don't really think it's fair to blame the cycling club for the actions of one person who may not even be a member. Also, the event itself is a worthy addition to Llandudno. However, the person responsible needs to foot the bill for the removal of the graffiti and face whatever sanctions CCBC decide, whether civil or criminal, without a doubt.

I'm sure that if the Club were warned of such a move, they would take action themselves, which at present seems to be distinctly lacking!   How long now?  And how long more?    ZXZ

I concur that it does not seem to be fair on the Cycling Club, but after all they must be responsible for all matters associated with any event they organise!      :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 18, 2013, 04:41:41 pm
I don't really think it's fair to blame the cycling club for the actions of one person who may not even be a member. Also, the event itself is a worthy addition to Llandudno. However, the person responsible needs to foot the bill for the removal of the graffiti and face whatever sanctions CCBC decide, whether civil or criminal, without a doubt.

I'm sure that if the Club were warned of such a move, they would take action themselves, which at present seems to be distinctly lacking!   How long now?  And how long more?    ZXZ

I concur that it does not seem to be fair on the Cycling Club, but after all they must be responsible for all matters associated with any event they organise!      :D

The club will know the individual even if he was not actually riding in the race.  He's been a bit over enthusiastic and largely ignorant in his choice of paint but a discreet word in his ear by the club officials would enable him to get a life for the future and prevent a repeat of this happening in any of Rhos' other cycling races.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 18, 2013, 04:55:22 pm
If this hadn't had such prominence on the Forum, you could bet your socks it would have been the thin end of the wedge. Lets hope its the last we see of such juvenile behaviour.
After all we're not French Spanish or Italian. Lets hope the young man responsible is as good as his word and he gets on with removing it or we will have to send him the bill.  *cycle*   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 18, 2013, 06:34:30 pm
No you can't blame the cycling club for the actions of one person, I expect they are horrified and embarrassed by his actions. We need events like that in the town, but next time he could perhaps make some banners displaying his encouragement for the riders.  :cyclist40: :cyclist40: :cyclist40:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 18, 2013, 06:55:17 pm
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a discreet word in his ear by the club officials would enable him to get a life for the future

Nice use of irony, Hugo :-)))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 18, 2013, 09:09:43 pm
It's criminal damage, no matter how you look at it.

In fact a prominent cafe owner on Marine Drive, the name of which will remain anonymous  :laugh: :laugh:  agreed with me when I spoke to him today.

I would get the paint cleaned off, regardless of the cost, and send the bill to the Cycling club.
They can either pass it to the perpetrator,  or pay at as an incidental cost of the event.

I object to CCBC footing the bill, or should I say I object to ME footing the bill.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 19, 2013, 01:41:56 pm
The Cambrian Rally was off to a fine start this morning:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 19, 2013, 03:27:23 pm
Just a little extra to add to the spray paint marking debate. You will all no doubt remember the horrific accident in St Georges Place earlier this year, well as I walked into town this morning I couldn't help but notice the Police white spray markings were still clearly visible at the Somerset St. end of the Hotel wall. Just goes to show Spray Paint Markings don't clear themselves up
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 21, 2013, 07:42:57 pm
Apparently there is huge pot of gold somewhere in Penrhynside!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 21, 2013, 09:17:46 pm
Actually that rainbow went over the hill to Penrhyn Bay.  Can't say more! 
 $hands$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on October 21, 2013, 10:53:09 pm
I've been told it was filming for the next generation of Volkswagen TV adverts - they also filmed going round the Marine Drive.

The advert was in Downton Abbey last night (my wife just watching it on video) ... shows lots of places which I don't know where they are (no doubt someone on here will!), but there's a dog driving a car along the Prom, and another dog driving a convertible around the Marine Drive.  Think there's also a shot taken in Gloddaeth Avenue as well.

Seem to have been quite a few dogs driving around the town - hope they've passed the driving test as they were unaccompanied and no L plates!!!

View here ... http://www.tvadmusic.co.uk/tag/vw/ (http://www.tvadmusic.co.uk/tag/vw/)
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Post by: Fester on October 21, 2013, 11:48:02 pm
Excellent DVT,  my eye was not so much drawn to the cars, but I am now seriously considering buying a dog!   :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2013, 07:53:55 am
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Seem to have been quite a few dogs driving around the town - hope they've passed the driving test as they were unaccompanied and no L plates

And they tend to be paw drivers...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 22, 2013, 08:17:14 am
 L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 22, 2013, 08:47:47 am
The ad. was also on during Doc Martin.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 24, 2013, 12:28:10 pm
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/127586/market-plans-in-place-for-llandudno.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/127586/market-plans-in-place-for-llandudno.aspx)

Sunday market in Llandudno - great idea! Sunday is a bit of a ghost town at times (though nowhere near as bad as the bay)
This will be great for getting people into town - as long as they live relatively close mind, as the bus service on sunday is appaling.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 24, 2013, 01:43:57 pm
It seems to me that many people are content to fill Llandudno with, Markets, Winter Fairs, Summer Fairs, Extravaganzas, Car Rallies, Parades, and many other distractions.

Does anyone think that we should have, say, one week end each month where the Town can be given over to  THE PEOPLE, to do what they want to do?
 :D    :cyclist40: $00$ :golf: ¢¢## +}}{-- :>:> $drink$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 24, 2013, 05:00:35 pm
No,a tourist town is there to attract tourists and fill the place so locals can make money,thats the reason many people moved here in the first place,if you want quiet well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: MarkJ on October 24, 2013, 05:23:47 pm
Really liking the idea of having a market in Llandudno! I don't actually think there's enough events going on currently and all these events bring extra people to the town (which can only be good!)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 24, 2013, 05:36:32 pm
MarkJ you will find there are people in this town who hate to see it busy and the thought of a dirty old market bringing in people,god forbid,but then there are some of us who like seeing the town busy and if we want quiet we can go up Conwy mountain.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 24, 2013, 05:40:52 pm
No,a tourist town is there to attract tourists and fill the place so locals can make money,thats the reason many people moved here in the first place,if you want quiet well.

You are totally incorrect, Wrex.  Llandudno was originally conceived as a resort for the people to escape to and relax and recover for a couple of weeks a year from the work and toil of their everyday lives.  The Promenade by its name designates the simple act of promenading.  In those early times there were no steam fairs, seasonal markets or transport festivals.  Entertainment was the Arcadia and other theatres and the pier?

So?????  What now?   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 24, 2013, 05:46:48 pm
MarkJ you will find there are people in this town who hate to see it busy and the thought of a dirty old market bringing in people,god forbid,but then there are some of us who like seeing the town busy and if we want quiet we can go up Conwy mountain.

I don't mind the town being busy, but I would like to have use of the pavements and roads myself occasionally.  There was a Market in the town, a covered, regular market at that.  Why was it removed?  Forward thinking Councillors no doubt!   :D

Why all the empty shops and plethora of Charity shops, Wrex?  Answer that little conundrum!   :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 24, 2013, 09:27:16 pm
You want me to explain why there are empty shops,is that the ones in Llandudno or the ones in every town.I think you would be better asking your local county councillor.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on October 24, 2013, 09:46:46 pm
I'd never claim to be any sort of expert on these things but surely there will always be a certain number of empty shops (and offices for that matter) in any town in any part of the country.  Some of the reasons could be: leases expire, people retire, demand for products wanes, businesses relocate to larger (or smaller) premises, poor judgement leads to insolvency etc. I don't think Llandudno compares unfavourably with any other similar towns.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 25, 2013, 12:16:34 am
Today, I have to take my hat off to CCBC for a change.

A week or two ago, houses on The Great Orme were informed by leaflet that there would be an Environmental Action Day.
The benefit of this for me personally was that two HUGE skips were deposited on Tyn y-Coed Road and were there to collect any kind of household things to get rid of.  Old furniture, carpets, electricals, garden waste, anything.
They were also there to do graffiti removal and a whole host of other clean up jobs.  It was a task force of about 8 guys.

Now, once I arrived with my first of many barrow loads of stuff I have long wanted to get rid of, they immediately despatched a small truck down to my house, (and many others) to handle the stuff themselves.
This was a god-send to me, because I was able to set off to work earlier than I had expected.
Nothing was too much trouble for them and they told me that many other such events are planned throughout Conwy County.  Maybe they already happen, I'm not sure.

Whatever the situation, I was very glad of the service, and I urge anyone, if it comes to your neighbourhood, take advantage of it! $good$ $good$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 25, 2013, 08:17:15 am
You want me to explain why there are empty shops,is that the ones in Llandudno or the ones in every town.I think you would be better asking your local county councillor.

You keep telling us that all these various "events" bring trade and well being to the town.  If this town is like every other one in the Country with empty shops, it just shows how unsuccessful they have been.

On another earlier point - when I came to Llandudno, none of these events were in being, and have sprung up over the past few (someone will say how many) years!   So you see I did come to embrace what the town had to offer in the way of it being a quiet, peaceful, relaxing place to live.   :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 25, 2013, 08:59:47 am
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Whatever the situation, I was very glad of the service, and I urge anyone, if it comes to your neighbourhood, take advantage of it!

It's quite a regular feature in the villages throughout Conwy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 25, 2013, 02:12:55 pm
Today, I have to take my hat off to CCBC for a change.

Whatever the situation, I was very glad of the service, and I urge anyone, if it comes to your neighbourhood, take advantage of it! $good$ $good$

I personally think you should pay to get rid of your own junk!!  ???
Years ago when I lived in Mochdre I had to wait well over a week and pay about £50 for the council to come up and take a sofa from me. I assume this is to stop fly tippers and the like? Surely the way to do that is to catch and fine the culprits not have people come round and collect everything for free - sure my hard earned tax money could be better spent  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 25, 2013, 04:21:16 pm
We will have to agree too disagree,being born in the town i remember the very first extravaganza and thinking thank god somebody has brought a bit of life to town if only for one weekend.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 25, 2013, 04:22:58 pm
We will have to agree too disagree,being born in the town i remember the very first extravaganza and thinking thank god somebody has brought a bit of life to town if only for one weekend.

I remember it well.  But the first, and many subsequent Extravaganzas, were not as big, brash and noisy as those of recent years.  Or closed down the centre and surrounding streets of the town.  The parade was led by a smart chap (Craig Cameron) in his stove pipe hat, and all around town were people promenading in Victorian costume and various other impedimenta.    A great time had by all in relative peace and tranquility! 
 ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: MarkJ on October 25, 2013, 04:50:28 pm
I expected sleepless nights for the Victorian extravaganza given that there was a chair swing ride right outside my bedroom window, but it was actually surprisingly quiet once everything stopped operating. Not exactly the noisy event that I had been led to believe it would be.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 25, 2013, 04:56:13 pm
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I remember it well.  But the first, and many subsequent Extravaganzas, were not as big, brash and noisy as those of recent years.

That was because we were able to keep only the original fairground people and not allow in the more modern attractions.  In the early events, too, the Police were more cautious about which streets could be closed and when. But the fairground operators work under very strict 'rules' between themselves, and the problems started - I seem to remember - when the modern rides were allowed in on Bodafon.

Craig was quite good as a parade Marshall, but I think Murray Radcliffe was better.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 25, 2013, 11:53:31 pm
Just been to the Snowden,Gresh and Cooneys what a laught x
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 26, 2013, 05:36:15 pm
The town has lost the plot where the youth are concerned,they have lost both their nite clubs and Venue Cymru Arena has failed them with nothing going on,who is going to do something for the young of Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on October 26, 2013, 05:48:14 pm
The town has lost the plot where the youth are concerned,they have lost both their nite clubs and Venue Cymru Arena has failed them with nothing going on,who is going to do something for the young of Llandudno.

Maybe if all the effort put into the Extravaganza, and all the other distractions I have previously mentioned, was re-directed to doing something for the Youth of the area, there would be no problem!  Or is that solution a bit too simple?    :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 26, 2013, 07:10:38 pm
Thank god they have the extravaganza or they would have nothing,thats simple.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 26, 2013, 08:10:29 pm
Thank god they have the extravaganza or they would have nothing,thats simple.

The live music scene is better in Colwyn Bay and Rhyl. Why is that you ask? Simple I answer: because landlords there are happy to put on bands regularly for young people - I mean proper bands, playing their own stuff, not one twit with an acoustic guitar singing Keane songs on a Saturday night!

Landlords in Llandudno are more concerned with filling their pubs with tables, so they can charge unwitting tourists plenty for their overrated food. The pubs are emptier than Katie Price's head during the winter, because the pub owners  are literally clueless on other ideas to fill their pub.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 26, 2013, 10:25:33 pm
Cross Keys do have bands as do the Town house so that is a little unfair.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 26, 2013, 10:58:09 pm
Cross Keys do have bands as do the Town house so that is a little unfair.

Oh yes they do, to be fair they do their bit. But go back even just ten years ago and it was a LOT better.
Just off the top of my head I remember live music (on more than one night of the week) in the Washington, Cottage loaf, CK, Town House, Parade, The Gresham (under it's multiple names back then) even the Victoria used to have a live singer now and again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yelboh on October 27, 2013, 08:12:58 am
My goodness!  Opinion is certainly hotting up re the Alice trail over on Oscar at the moment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 27, 2013, 08:45:02 am
Gresh had a sax player friday nite and we really enjoyed,the Mostyh Cambridge has Spanish guitar while u eat at the weekend.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 27, 2013, 11:42:14 am
The discussion on Oscar about a Sunday market has made me think what a good idea,it was kicked out by the town council many years ago,maybe its time for a change or what.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 27, 2013, 01:23:22 pm
Gresh had a sax player friday nite and we really enjoyed,the Mostyh Cambridge has Spanish guitar while u eat at the weekend.

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The town has lost the plot where the youth are concerned
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 27, 2013, 01:29:46 pm
Can;t force the pubs to have groups,not sure how many go to Colwyn Bay for a nite out but i do know that if they want clubs they now go to Bangor or the english cities.Don;t get me wrong, we can;t force anybody to open a niteclub in Llandudno its just a shame our youth are being forced out of town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 27, 2013, 02:43:32 pm
Can;t force the pubs to have groups,not sure how many go to Colwyn Bay for a nite out but i do know that if they want clubs they now go to Bangor or the english cities.Don;t get me wrong, we can;t force anybody to open a niteclub in Llandudno its just a shame our youth are being forced out of town.

If young people want crappy nightclub music there have 147. If young people want to see a band they have nowhere.
This could well be why North Wales hasn't produced a band of any note whatsoever since the Alarm in about 1982
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Post by: Yorkie on October 27, 2013, 04:03:42 pm
I did hear from a reliable source that the Llandudno Town Council have put into operation contingency plans in case there is inclement weather on the day of the Annual (waste of money) Fireworks Display.   Apparently if there is any sign of bad conditions including wind or rain, they will move the display to another location, being the site of an underused County Council asset, namely Venue Cymru!

They understand that there have been numerous complaints regarding under-use of the facility and consider it as an ideal location for the event, being dry, undercover, well staffed and with plenty of spectator space.
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 27, 2013, 06:00:42 pm
Cross Keys do have bands as do the Town house so that is a little unfair.

Oh yes they do, to be fair they do their bit. But go back even just ten years ago and it was a LOT better.
Just off the top of my head I remember live music (on more than one night of the week) in the Washington, Cottage loaf, CK, Town House, Parade, The Gresham (under it's multiple names back then) even the Victoria used to have a live singer now and again.
If they were making money why aren't they still doing it ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: nwpo on October 28, 2013, 11:24:29 am
If they were making money why aren't they still doing it ?
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Because the the previous Government decided in their infinite wisdom to change the licensing laws so that instead of allowing 2 people to perform without needing an Temporary Event license, you needed a license regardless of whether you were playing Wembley stadium or the local pub to one man and his dog.

Thankfully, the present Government acted upon the report made by Fergal Sharkey and repealed it, so now, you don't need a license provided the audience is below 200 and the entertainment is between 8am and 11pm in a licensed premises.

The phenomenal success of the Battle of the Band's put on by The Laundry Studios at Engedi Arts in Colwyn Bay, has lead to TLS putting on more live music by real bands aimed at the youngsters and - importantly - run by the youngsters through the charitable arm Action for Arts (declaration - I'm a trustee).

The Battle of the Bands was put on with free admission.  If we could find a venue in Llandudno that would help with the space, I'm sure we'd love to do more.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 28, 2013, 04:53:56 pm
Thanks for the explanation. Very interesting.Why don't the previous venues restore their music night ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 28, 2013, 05:44:42 pm
                   I've just come in from a neighbour's house and noticed that "Four in a bed" was on the TV there (Channel 4 at 5.pm all this week), and one of the B&B owners  featured this week is John Humberstone of the Alexandra Hotel, Llandudno, (complete with full scaffolding!) which will presumably be featured sometime later on this week.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llewelyn on October 28, 2013, 10:51:28 pm
Many if not all pubs are on the brink, bands expect to be paid and the extra revenue they bring in, no way covers the extra cost. sad but true, unless customers pay a ticket price, pubs cant afford it. tax on beer and pub company's rent  and business rates and more, make running a pub a cost,  I had a pub and it was my day job and savings kept the pub going.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on October 29, 2013, 05:54:35 pm
I took these a few hours ago from the Great Orme car park. It was difficult to hold the camera still because it was so windy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on October 30, 2013, 09:54:28 am
Quite right.
Hosting live music in a pub is very risky business and somewhat a luxury.
Brewery's and Pub company's come second place to the inland revenue. In respect that they charge tied pubs top dollar for their beer hence the charge is passed on to the customer which results in lost trade. The rents are extortionate and the customer pays for that. The non domestic Business Rates are set against rentable value so the customer pays for that. If you are lucky enough to have Sky TV the cost set by Sky is comparable to you business rates therefore very high IE. in excess of £1000 a month unless you have rate relief. Then of course if you play in a decent band you will want paying I personally would t expect anything less than £150. as a solo artist on a Saturday night. then if i was in a band I would expect £70 if playing in a 4 piece. The band also has to make contingency for dispersal costs so a 4 piece would need £300, if they were to cover public liability  etc etc.
The pub is a changing place and with cheep supermarket offers, social networking, home entertainment, the availability of local gyms (peer Preasure). central government restrictions on alcohol. and the endless restrictions placed pun pubs by local council like door stiff at £15.00 an hour, restrictive opening hours, dispersal policies,and  fire regs. The end is Nigh
next time you see a pub with a live act stop for a minute and count up the costs.
Door staff at £15.00 an hour each, the live act £150 to £300 for the night, bar staff, lighting , electricity, heating, rent, rates, other stealth costs IE licensing, health and safety, environmental, fire regs employment casts, etc etc . The list is long.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 30, 2013, 10:03:10 am
                   I've just come in from a neighbour's house and noticed that "Four in a bed" was on the TV there (Channel 4 at 5.pm all this week), and one of the B&B owners  featured this week is John Humberstone of the Alexandra Hotel, Llandudno, (complete with full scaffolding!) which will presumably be featured sometime later on this week.

I missed Monday's episode but John Humberstone is on tomorrow ( I think)   What was ironic was one of his comments when he said that his  Hotel did not allow smoking.  I believe that it was a cigarette in someone's room that started the fire in his property.
I've taped the rest of this weeks show just in case I miss them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 30, 2013, 10:12:09 am
My Sky Planner tells me it is coming this week from the Jolly Carter pub in Bolton.  :(

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 30, 2013, 03:21:09 pm
Very good piece Catstevens,but it makes you wonder why people still jump into the buisness,we are fortunate we only have the Mostyn Arms and Flix closed at the moment and one of those is because it belongs to the closed hotel so it does make you wonder why the hell anybody in the right mind would go into such a buisness.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on October 31, 2013, 07:54:10 pm
More Llandudno publicity ... from today's edition of Blue Peter

BBC iPlayer - Blue Peter: 31/10/2013 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03gpkz9/)

Fast forward to 17m 10s - more next week as well!

This was filmed after the Cambrian Rally Press Day a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 01, 2013, 08:26:50 am
I'd love a go at that !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on November 01, 2013, 08:32:18 am
I spotted some good views of Town, Little Orme, The Pier and Marine Drive on the new Volkswagen advert on one of the sky channels this week.
http://www.tvadmusic.co.uk/2013/10/volkswagen-theres-a-volkswagen-for-all-of-us/ (http://www.tvadmusic.co.uk/2013/10/volkswagen-theres-a-volkswagen-for-all-of-us/)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 01, 2013, 09:21:37 am
Have you been away on holiday?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on November 01, 2013, 09:40:21 am
Ive been a little busy of late with some personal matters so havent been on the forum as much as i would like. Am i right in assuming this advert had been mentioned already.if so. Sorry.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 01, 2013, 10:42:26 am
Probably flogged to death, TM.

Sounds as if you missed out the Ham Bone tho'  ;)

Glad to see you back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 01, 2013, 01:54:53 pm
Is there any news on anything good for Llandudno.We have lost our night clubs,Mostyn estates are slow on announcing their plans for the Tudno Castle,no plans for the empty shops on the Hight st and i can;t see the xmas lights being any different to last year,thank god for Alice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 01, 2013, 05:04:44 pm
. . . . . thank god for Alice.

I hear she's got herself pregnant and will be devoting her time to bringing the child up!    :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 01, 2013, 05:33:46 pm
We need to find out who got her pregnant.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llewelyn on November 01, 2013, 06:28:28 pm
If you read Thoughts of Oscar, The Alice theme is far from popular, the more I read the more I agree, not a good idea.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 01, 2013, 06:44:21 pm
I was being a little sarcastic with Alice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 01, 2013, 07:01:25 pm
I was being a little sarcastic with Alice.

The White Rabbit is all cracked up about it!  He'll need a lot more than Polyfilla to cure his shakes!   ZXZ

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 01, 2013, 11:42:37 pm
Is there any news on anything good for Llandudno.We have lost our night clubs,Mostyn estates are slow on announcing their plans for the Tudno Castle,no plans for the empty shops on the Hight st and i can;t see the xmas lights being any different to last year,thank god for Alice.

Wrex, The Pier can expect steamer ships arriving early next year, as the landing stage is almost complete.
Plus, I'm getting my spare bedroom decorated, so that's another improvement!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2013, 08:34:30 am
I was being a little sarcastic with Alice.

The White Rabbit is all cracked up about it!  He'll need a lot more than Polyfilla to cure his shakes!   ZXZ

Heard he was still in hiding !!--or was he kidnapped? :twoface: _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: viv on November 04, 2013, 10:37:48 pm
Did you see a recent repeated episode of Four in a bed? The Alexandra was on, with some good shots of Llandudno on a nice sunny day! He came 4th. However he will be on again in the Hotel Inspector soon, to get some tips on re-vitalise the business. To be fair it was hard for him as the scaffolding was up after the fire damage, and he explained that he was having a new roof etc.  On another show, the Orme Court Guest house won, despite some very strong competition from some beautiful B &Bs . They were certainly the best value for money, and the hosts were very genuine. Well done!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 05, 2013, 08:57:09 pm
Xmas lights come summer lights seem to have been put on early,i don;t think they were on for half term last week,i wonder if they are on by mistake or the TC are forward thinking for once.Of course one person will be slagging them of for wasdting money.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 05, 2013, 11:49:28 pm
Wrex, the Conwy Xmas lights (on the Cob) were switched on today when I went by, maybe just testing?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on November 06, 2013, 08:52:04 am
Four in a Bed : Alexandra Hotel

Alexandra Hotel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCxPNvw4G3c#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 06, 2013, 09:06:33 am
Good work finding that, Dwsi.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: 1_rob_1 on November 06, 2013, 12:00:23 pm
Ive stayed in quite a few hotels/b&bs in LLandudno, There are some outstanding ones.  $good$
Ive also stayed in the Alex.  :o    (never again)   Im not surprised it came last, especially with an obnoxious self-righteous man like John Humberstone running it.  &shake& 
If you look at his comments to customers on Tripadvisor it becomes obvious that he is severely lacking in people skills.

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Post by: viv on November 06, 2013, 10:41:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=four+in+a+bed+orme+court&oq=four+in+a+bed&gs_l=youtube.1.0.35i39l2j0l8.4653.8201.0.10394.13.13.0.0.0.0.117.1141.11j2.13.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.jvIvRSTxZ_w (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=four+in+a+bed+orme+court&oq=four+in+a+bed&gs_l=youtube.1.0.35i39l2j0l8.4653.8201.0.10394.13.13.0.0.0.0.117.1141.11j2.13.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.jvIvRSTxZ_w)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 07, 2013, 07:19:18 pm
Ive just driven through Deganwy and they have put their xmas lights up,not on yet but they look new vto me ,i pray Llandudno is not put to shame by our neighbouring village.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 07, 2013, 09:31:01 pm
They have also put them up on the bridge and in Gyffin.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 10, 2013, 12:19:02 pm
Good turn out at the cenotaph,its nice to see people respect our fallen.There was one who was shouting near the end,not sure i was too far away.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 11, 2013, 12:33:01 am
Wrex, it was a great service today, the Prom was packed, and it was beautifully observed.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 11, 2013, 03:44:55 pm
Any one noticed if the Town Council have started putting real xmas lights up yet,Oscar is having a go but it just seems to be a standing joke in the council chamber to see how far they can push their electrate,its years since i was on the council and was promised improvements but the truth is  none of them give a damn about the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 11, 2013, 03:50:52 pm
There are TWO VACANCIES for Town Councillors to represent the Tudno Ward.  Election Packs available from Bodlondeb.   Have a go!   :D

P.s.  I got my Pack already!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2013, 04:12:47 pm
Not having a go, Yorkie, but don't you believe that Councillors should live in the Ward they represent?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian48 on November 11, 2013, 04:43:35 pm
Good luck with that Yorkie, I admire your commitment to the electorate, especially considering the elections are for the Mostyn ward, not Tudno...

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=142&doc=33681&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=142&doc=33681&Language=1)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 11, 2013, 05:06:10 pm
Not having a go, Yorkie, but don't you believe that Councillors should live in the Ward they represent?

Many inexperienced Councillors and some members of the public think that should be the case.

However, the duty of every Councillor is to represent EVERYONE in the Town, not just those in his own Ward.  The old long standing Councillors will concur with that statement.  Looking after the interests of the Community is written into the duties and responsibilities of Councillors.

The reason for division by Wards is to ensure a fair and reasonable representation of the people of the Town.

Same applies to County and Parliamentary Elections.

P.s.  In the past I have represented Gogarth Ward on the Town Council.   $walesflag$ ZXZ  $uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 11, 2013, 05:09:36 pm
Good luck with that Yorkie, I admire your commitment to the electorate, especially considering the elections are for the Mostyn ward, not Tudno...


Very kind of you.  However, i live in the Penrhyn Ward.  What fantastic encouragement one gets from the Forum.   As it happens I have not decided to stand, but got the pack just in case.  I will keep my options open for now. :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2013, 05:20:35 pm
Not having a go, Yorkie, but don't you believe that Councillors should live in the Ward they represent?

Many inexperienced Councillors and some members of the public think that should be the case.

However, the duty of every Councillor is to represent EVERYONE in the Town, not just those in his own Ward.  The old long standing Councillors will concur with that statement.  Looking after the interests of the Community is written into the duties and responsibilities of Councillors.

The reason for division by Wards is to ensure a fair and reasonable representation of the people of the Town.

Same applies to County and Parliamentary Elections.

P.s.  In the past I have represented Gogarth Ward on the Town Council.   $walesflag$ ZXZ  $uk
Perhaps I'm being a little naive then, but I imagined a good Town Councillor would live in the Ward they represent, have a good working knowledge of issues within their Ward, be in their Ward daily, and be well known to the Electorate within that Ward?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 11, 2013, 05:28:56 pm
who are the two  that have left,i know one has past away the gentleman from The Annan hotel but who is the other
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 11, 2013, 06:07:33 pm
Is it Dave Holland?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 11, 2013, 06:24:25 pm
Macnamara passed away and Holland resigned.

Perhaps I'm being a little naive then, but I imagined a good Town Councillor would live in the Ward they represent, have a good working knowledge of issues within their Ward, be in their Ward daily, and be well known to the Electorate within that Ward?

I suppose in a perfect World that would fine, but we ain't.  It has also been known for no nominations to be received for a Ward, so you suggest they then don't have a representative?
Or maybe there is a better more experienced candidate in the next or another Ward?
A well known Councillor, Alan Barratt, lived on the Orme but was a Mostyn Ward Councillor.  Well liked and repeatedly elected.

Furthermore, the majority of the Town's problems are not always Ward based

If you don't think I could effectively and efficiently represent Mostyn Ward, why not just say so, instead of all this beating about the bush.

 >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2013, 06:57:24 pm
It's a general discussion about the role of a Town Councillor, nothing more. I have no idea whether you would be a good Councillor or not and it's not really a concern of mine, being honest.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 11, 2013, 07:34:03 pm
Dave a good town councillor would come on here and explain why they have bad xmas lighting ,why they can do nothing about the pier pavillion,why Venue Cymru Arena is failing,that is what a good councillor would be.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 13, 2013, 04:11:02 pm
This afternoon at about 2.30 whilst driving along the promenade, I saw a small group of men standing on the pavement close to the Lifeboat Slipway, as if waiting for transport or to be picked up.  They had with them a number of largish net sacks which, at a guess, I would say contained mussels.

I was not aware that mussel collecting was allowed on North Shore and I would certainly not eat any from there.  Does anyone know if such activity is allowed?   WWW
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Post by: wrex on November 13, 2013, 04:31:06 pm
Can any one shove a firework up the Jacksie of this council over xmas lights they are si uninterested it hurts.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 13, 2013, 05:20:52 pm
This afternoon at about 2.30 whilst driving along the promenade, I saw a small group of men standing on the pavement close to the Lifeboat Slipway, as if waiting for transport or to be picked up.  They had with them a number of largish net sacks which, at a guess, I would say contained mussels.

I was not aware that mussel collecting was allowed on North Shore and I would certainly not eat any from there.  Does anyone know if such activity is allowed?   WWW

I haven't a clue about the regulations but it's not just mussels that are being collected. I see men putting out quite long nets both near the pier and over at Rhos.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on November 13, 2013, 06:35:02 pm
Re the Mussels.  I think if anyone has concerns about collecting seafood on an industrial scale they ought to contact the Harbour Master, Matthew Forbes, at Conwy.  He will know the answers and who to contact if enforcement is needed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 13, 2013, 06:35:36 pm
Found this :

THE WELSH MINISTERS GIVE NOTICE THAT, pursuant to Byelaw 13A of the former North Western and North Wales Sea Fisheries Committee1, the mussel (Mytilis edulis) beds in the area defined below (“the Area”) are closed to mussel fishing with effect from 23.59 on 4th September 2013 until 23:59 on 31st August 2014.

The map shows the Conwy Estuary but I suppose any other area nearby would also be affected, including Llanduno Bay.   ZXZ

I'll miss my mussels.   ?{}?
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Post by: norman08 on November 13, 2013, 07:00:06 pm
i was walking up the prom this morning seen a guy going in/out of the water below the bandstand , got nearer noticed he was putting fish in a bag looked like the garden waste bag ,he must have had a line out ,youngsters went along taking pics of him with the fish,never seen that before.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 14, 2013, 12:31:14 am
Funny ! Yorkie and norman08 mention these activities going on in Llandudno. Today as i was walking from my car towards Rhos  and i noticed what looked like 2 either nets or lines set close into shore(thought this sort of thing either was banned or should be at low water) wondered what they were with white tiny floats supporting ,then low and behold our local resident seal appeared in the water only about 20 meters out and proceeded to feed there for about half an hour ,so who ever set the lines would be disappointed  ;D . My only concern was that the seal didnt get caught or tangled in the net ,line whatever. I waited a while till i saw him or her eventually swim away unscathed i think. This practice should be outlawed as it was too close and birds, seals and inquisitive dogs could be hurt. If anyone has any info as to what is going on, this was by the Cayley Promenade , let us know. Curious, altho i have seen  van loads of mussels being taken from Rhos point quite recently.  These looked like nets and set high up the beach.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 14, 2013, 12:34:28 am
This afternoon at about 2.30 whilst driving along the promenade, I saw a small group of men standing on the pavement close to the Lifeboat Slipway, as if waiting for transport or to be picked up.  They had with them a number of largish net sacks which, at a guess, I would say contained mussels.

I was not aware that mussel collecting was allowed on North Shore and I would certainly not eat any from there.  Does anyone know if such activity is allowed?   WWW

I haven't a clue about the regulations but it's not just mussels that are being collected. I see men putting out quite long nets both near the pier and over at Rhos.
Just seen your Post Dave! after i have written mine! The seal i saw today had a ball with the nets at rhos  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 14, 2013, 08:11:24 am
An enquiry has been made to the Holyhead Fisheries Control Centre.   All seems a bit like an organised operation to me.  Other places have recently had similar problems with illegal fishing.  I particularly would not like some of these mussels to get in the food chain.   >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2013, 08:20:49 am
Went for a walk along the Prom just now, rough seas at North Shore this morning. Some of the poppy wreaths had blown off the Cenotaph, I put them back into place. The prom outside Venue Cymru is closed today for Wales Rally GB preparations, contractors are already there struggling to put up bunting in the strong winds!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 14, 2013, 08:29:26 am
Re the Mussels.  I think if anyone has concerns about collecting seafood on an industrial scale they ought to contact the Harbour Master, Matthew Forbes, at Conwy.  He will know the answers and who to contact if enforcement is needed.

About 12 months ago we contacted the Harbour Master because of the vast volume of empty red sacks floating in the sea between Rhos Point and Penrhyn Bay. Like others here it worried us that the wildlife would come to harm.
We did get a reply and haven't seen any since, but didn't get any answers as to why they were there and what they were being used for.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 14, 2013, 01:36:20 pm
Found this :

THE WELSH MINISTERS GIVE NOTICE THAT, pursuant to Byelaw 13A of the former North Western and North Wales Sea Fisheries Committee1, the mussel (Mytilis edulis) beds in the area defined below (“the Area”) are closed to mussel fishing with effect from 23.59 on 4th September 2013 until 23:59 on 31st August 2014.

The map shows the Conwy Estuary but I suppose any other area nearby would also be affected, including Llanduno Bay.   ZXZ

I'll miss my mussels.   ?{}?
You could try weight lifting at the local Gym Yorkie   :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 14, 2013, 04:05:02 pm

You could try weight lifting at the local Gym Yorkie   :twoface:

I'ii just wait for a Bus, that's the only lift I need!  And it's free!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 14, 2013, 04:06:19 pm
Just returned from Town and already it's traffic chaos with just a short part of the prom outside the Theatre closed!   $angry$
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Post by: Mikethewatch on November 14, 2013, 05:13:30 pm
Me too,bit of a divertion but hardly chaos!
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Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2013, 05:26:33 pm
Ive just returned from the Rally, will post some photos shortly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 14, 2013, 05:29:31 pm
Me too,bit of a divertion but hardly chaos! 


So Yorkie is lying?  Exaggerating?  Just a fool?  Or Mike is being picky and pedantic!  Take your pick!

I suppose the degree of chaos, depends on how one on found it at the time.  Traffic was backed up from ASDA down to Mostyn Broadway, along to the Boulevard and then for a good way up towards the Links.  Maybe going towards the Orme wasn't as bad.  It's there for another few days, so will no doubt get worse as people and competitors come into town.

Still the town needs the business, so I hope all goes well.   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2013, 05:53:11 pm
Whilst waiting for the Rally cars to arrive, I had a wander along the beach and noticed several Kitesurfers were enjoying the rough seas:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 14, 2013, 07:04:58 pm
Whilst waiting for the Rally cars to arrive, I had a wander along the beach and noticed several Kitesurfers were enjoying the rough seas:
   

Did you tell them they are meant to be at Porth Erias!  :laugh: good pic!
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Post by: snowcap on November 14, 2013, 08:58:57 pm
was watching them from the house this afternoon Dave, they looked to be having a brill time,  there were three of them at one spell, great photo by the way.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 15, 2013, 12:06:46 am
With regard to the Mussels issue.

I think the beds in Conwy which cannot be fished form only part of the mussel beds available.

I say this because all the eateries in Conwy are serving Conwy Mussels (as opposed to Menai mussels).

Also, I was at Mermaid Seafoods in Builder St on Monday, and they had just taken delivery of an entire PALLET load of live Conwy mussels.

However, I agree about North Shore, they are certainly not to be eaten from there as they are not managed, monitored or tested to my knowledge.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2013, 07:08:38 am
I went to manchester last night to see the Sterophonics(Tom Jones made a special appearance,bonus),it was busy i spent a 100 pound in the city and queued to get out of the city,this is how Manchester survives having events and bringing in people(tourists in our case)in to spend money,Llandudno is no different so get over it.
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Post by: Ian on November 15, 2013, 07:54:51 am
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this is how Manchester survives having events and bringing in people(tourists in our case)in to spend money,Llandudno is no different so get over it.

Well, it does have a much bigger catchment area, significantly higher wage earners on average, pretty good parking and transport infrastructure and a huge population. But apart from that - no different. 

$good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 15, 2013, 10:34:20 am
I went to manchester last night to see the Sterophonics(Tom Jones made a special appearance,bonus),it was busy i spent a 100 pound in the city and queued to get out of the city,this is how Manchester survives having events and bringing in people(tourists in our case)in to spend money,Llandudno is no different so get over it.

Each to their own Wrex. Not everyone in Llandudno is keen on crowds, traffic and noise and cannot afford or do not want to afford so much on one night out.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2013, 10:48:22 am

Each to their own Wrex. Not everyone in Llandudno is keen on crowds, traffic and noise and cannot afford or do not want to afford so much on one night out.

I did hear that there are plans to close off a minimum of two streets in the Town Centre at week ends for regular events such as Fairs, Rallies, Street Entertainment etc.  This will happen 51 weeks of the year.  The other week will be given over to the Townsfolk to have the facility of being able to amble around and do what they would like to do.

A pedestrian Toll will be re-introduced to walk round Marine Drive and a Congestion Charge (as per London) will be made for those venturing into town with any form of motorised transport.

Don't laugh- it could happen!   :D
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Post by: Linda on November 15, 2013, 11:19:26 am

You could try weight lifting at the local Gym Yorkie   :twoface:

I'ii just wait for a Bus, that's the only lift I need!  And it's free!   :D
Actually i dont know if your kidding but iv just got my pass and i think its amazing, free travel!. I havent used it much as where i live now I I I havent got a bus  :roll: . I am moving soon and the area has a bus route  D). So maybe save on fuel and the hassle of parking. Apparently can even go to Chester by bus (wonder how long that takes)  ;D Wishing you well with your mussels
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 15, 2013, 11:25:45 am
Me too,bit of a divertion but hardly chaos! 


So Yorkie is lying?  Exaggerating?  Just a fool?  Or Mike is being picky and pedantic!  Take your pick!

I suppose the degree of chaos, depends on how one on found it at the time.  Traffic was backed up from ASDA down to Mostyn Broadway, along to the Boulevard and then for a good way up towards the Links.  Maybe going towards the Orme wasn't as bad.  It's there for another few days, so will no doubt get worse as people and competitors come into town.

Still the town needs the business, so I hope all goes well.   :D
I might add my OH was driving around town yesterday and found it difficult early afternoon  in that area also ,so not on your own there Yorkie. Still like everyone agrees brings in business. I wonder what it will be like tomorrow for Christmas shopping!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2013, 11:38:35 am
There's a man walking along Mostyn St wearing a jacket with 'SATAN IS A LIAR' written on the back. He's shouting about religion and trying to give leaflets to passers by.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 15, 2013, 11:57:48 am
I think that should read 'Santa is a liar".  Probably had an unhappy Xmas...
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Post by: Nemesis on November 15, 2013, 01:12:10 pm
Saw him the other day-- wonder what he has been reading?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2013, 04:21:09 pm
I mean that Llandudno is only trying to attract people into the town useing their cafes ,guest houses etc thats all,sorry if you all got the wrong idea.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 15, 2013, 04:24:29 pm
We all know you only want the best for Llandudno, Wrex, and it can be mighty disheartening dealing with the council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2013, 05:37:28 pm
Must admit I am amazed at the lack of presence marketing surrounding the GB Rally. Some pathetic bunting and a couple of missable posters. Who, if anybody,is sponsoring the event because they aren't getting much of a return.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llewelyn on November 15, 2013, 05:38:35 pm
Yorkie, Conwys increasing number of events, Closes The High Street at least monthly, its a joke.
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2013, 05:45:03 pm
Yorkie, Conwys increasing number of events, Closes The High Street at least monthly, its a joke.

Wow!  That's a lot of things going on.    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on November 15, 2013, 07:26:16 pm
Linda - I went to Chester by bus once - it took me 3 hours but I saw a lot of placs I never knew existed!!  Good luck ;)
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Post by: Yorkie on November 15, 2013, 08:33:08 pm
Linda - I went to Chester by bus once - it took me 3 hours but I saw a lot of placs I never knew existed!!  Good luck ;)

Change at Rhyl if using Bus Pass.   You can go by National Express from the Coach Park, but that costs!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 15, 2013, 09:33:12 pm
Linda - I went to Chester by bus once - it took me 3 hours but I saw a lot of placs I never knew existed!!  Good luck ;)
Thanks White Rabbit 3 hours quite long, but i suppose free and if your not in a hurry ,like you say sit back and enjoy.

Change at Rhyl if using Bus Pass.   You can go by National Express from the Coach Park, but that costs!   ZXZ
A good alternative ,use pass to Rhyl and then National express. probably still cheaper than fuel at the pump.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 16, 2013, 07:22:03 am
You can use your pass all the way to Chester, but have to change buses at Rhyl.   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on November 16, 2013, 04:33:07 pm
I'm always amased about the amount of moaing people do, when the town puts on an event, bringing people and their money into the area.
Anyone would think we were a tourist resort.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 16, 2013, 04:55:49 pm
I'm always amased about the amount of moaing people do, when the town puts on an event, bringing people and their money into the area.
Anyone would think we were a tourist resort.

What's good for the goose is not always good for the gander!  One man's meat is another man's poison.  And so it goes on!  It' not MOAING (sic) it is just a difference of opinion and it would be a sorry World if everyone agreed with everything.   :D

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 16, 2013, 05:02:13 pm
Anyone would think we were a tourist resort.

An hour ago, I called into the Tourist Information.

Nobody knew for sure which way round the Great Orme the rally cars are travelling tomorrow.

No idea what will be down Mostyn Street after 6pm tonight and all day tomorrow except that is where the finish is and there will be entertainment from 1pm.

No idea where one can purchase a £15 ticket for tomorrows' Great Orme Special Stage.

Do we deserve to still be a tourist resort?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 16, 2013, 05:17:15 pm
All the information for tickets is available on the web site... provided you have access !

http://www.walesrallygb.com/spectators/how_to_buy.php (http://www.walesrallygb.com/spectators/how_to_buy.php)

The direction of travel is also on there....provided you know which way round they went last year. It  tells you that this time they are going the opposite way which I have a feeling is the "wrong way" i.e. from West Shore .
As previously stated, I think their marketing is very poor. The little on show in terms of bannering etc is pathetic, there is absolutely no atmosphere of an event taking place what so ever.

What's wrong with Llandudno. We don't seem to let people know what's happening here at all.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 16, 2013, 05:38:59 pm
Dave, I visited Venue Cymru on Thursday morning and the Wales Rally GB staff could only sell me a one day £33 ticket for tomorrow.

They could not sell me a £15 ticket for the Great Orme.

In fact, they informed me the £15 ticket will eventually entitle me to a free programme (£7.50) and parking (£5).

I am not convinced either is correct.

Thursday’s Daily Post rally reporter stated tickets for £15 plus a booking fee are available but she did not state where from.

I am doing my best to support the event but I am beginning to wonder if it is really worth it.

It is interesting you suggesting they will be going round clockwise from the West Shore because the Tourist Information plumped for past the Grand Hotel.
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Post by: Jack on November 16, 2013, 07:58:50 pm
I saw a copy of the £7-50 official programme before.  The route is definitely the opposite way round the Orme - the map isn't great but the start seems to be somewhere around the 'Concrete' Road near the Rest and be Thankful finishing by the Toll Gate by the pier.  Parking seems to be above St Tudno's Church and the programme stated that this was private land and so £5 to park.

Seems that this stage is at about 1pm and then a free event with fire breathers and stilt walkers on Mostyn Street from 1-3pm.

Instant coffee is £1-80 and a 4oz burger is £4-00 and with cheese £4-20!!
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Post by: DVT on November 16, 2013, 08:50:45 pm
Wales Rally GB ... final stage (number 22) Great Orme.

Start is at the little quarry just up from the shelter which is just up from Llys Helig Drive.  The stage runs the "wrong way round" to finish just before the toll gate, then cars go past the Grand Hotel to the ceremonial finish in Mostyn Street.  They actually still have to then drive back to Deeside for the "real" final control.

Marshals need to be signed on by 0930.  Timing gear is due at 1001, FIA Media at 1151 and the Spectator Control Car at 1201.  Stewards will be checking things at 1221 and then first Course Car (000) ar 1221, followed by the FIA Safety Team at (1231).  Course Car 00 will be at at 1241, Flying Course Car (a Volvo!) car 0 will be at 1256 with the first competitor at 1301.

You do need tickets to get onto the Orme, then there is an additional £5 to park in the field above the churchyard (that's nothing to do with the event, it is what the farmer charges).

However, as you are all local and don't mind a walk I'm sure you will find a two-fotted route past the securuty guards and also not take your car so can avoid paying to park!!!

Viewing can be had at the bottom of the Tank Tracks where I think there will be commentary, possibly also from Rest and Be Thankful although crossing will be limited.  Or if you come down the zig-zags below the church join me on radio duty as that is where I should be!!!

I was told a few weeks ago that the town would be plastered with posters and information - so I cannot say why that has failed or why those that should know don't.

You now know almost as much about the event as I do!!!  Enjoy, and if you do see me say hello!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 16, 2013, 09:21:48 pm
You can use your pass all the way to Chester, but have to change buses at Rhyl.   :D

Thanks for information,will give it a try. when im not so busy with packing and stuff. Did venture off down to the Conwy valley today  and in morning weather permitting Bodnant here we come. The colours are fantastic at the moment. My daughter went today and told me not to miss what is left of the Acers, she said they were stunning  so camera at ready. Shopping can wait a week or two  :)
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Post by: hollins on November 17, 2013, 01:06:00 pm
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Did venture off down to the Conwy valley today  and in morning weather permitting Bodnant here we come. The colours are fantastic at the moment. My daughter went today and told me not to miss what is left of the Acers, she said they were stunning  so camera at ready. Shopping can wait a week or two  :)

Linda, I hope you made it to Bodnant. it would be great to see some photos on here if you have time. I have been trying to photograph the Acer leaves close up this morning with limited success but I will put a few attempts in the garden section.
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Post by: Linda on November 17, 2013, 11:26:55 pm
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Did venture off down to the Conwy valley today  and in morning weather permitting Bodnant here we come. The colours are fantastic at the moment. My daughter went today and told me not to miss what is left of the Acers, she said they were stunning  so camera at ready. Shopping can wait a week or two  :)

Linda, I hope you made it to Bodnant. it would be great to see some photos on here if you have time. I have been trying to photograph the Acer leaves close up this morning with limited success but I will put a few attempts in the garden section.
Hi Hollins I did manage to get quite a few photos, though im a bit slow uploading on here, practice makes perfect but will try next day or so. Bodnant was stunning . We were so lucky with the weather too,not to cold. The Acers were amazing especially crossing the 'Ha ha' into the far field (ha ha for those who dont know is a ditch area to keep the sheep out of the gardens)I didnt know that until today  :roll:.
We went down into the dell the Hydrangeas still in full flower and the River Hiraethlyn was full and fast, work is being done on the dam by the top bridge.Repairs and some kind of way through encouraging eels and salmon to come up the river. Down  by the mill were hot drinks being served and an outdoor log brazier to warm you.  Very seasonal and most enjoyable I recommend it if anyone can get there this week before the bad weather that has been promised.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on November 18, 2013, 08:26:09 am
I love the hydrangeas down there too. The colours are so varied as they are dying off.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on November 18, 2013, 09:20:03 am
When I was on the Orme yesterday morning saw a small pod of dolphins (about 5 or 6) ... seemed a bit late in the year for them.  They were directly opposite the bottom of the zig-zags and visible for about 20 minutes before disappearing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on November 18, 2013, 09:37:32 am
Picking up on the Bodnant comments ... my father worked for the estate as electrician/plumber - a team of four men were based at the saw mill, all spent their entire working life for Bodnant estate - he started in 1935 and retired in 1985, war years and Army service intervening for a while.  For the first 5 years of my life (early 1950's) we lived in the white cottage just across the river from the mill, then moved to the house that is now next to the entrance to the Food Centre - my parents were still living there until 1998.

I grew up in the gardens, and when I was a boy my father and his mates used to fish for trout in the river that runs through the dell.  I remember seeing salmon trying to leap up the waterfall, which was just too high for them.  Eels can travel over ground so did make their way upstream having by-passed the waterfall.  As a youngster I would spend many an hour messing about in the river near to the mill, catching sticklebacks and small eels and flatfish that would come in on the head of the tide - that reached the weir by the mill, occasionally coming over.

When my own children were young (1980/1990's) we would visit my parents and spend many a Sunday evening strolling through the gardens, all quiet as no public and seeing all sorts of amazing wildlife - woodpeckers, kingfishers, herons and ducks.  My favourite part of the gardens is upstream from the main waterfall - where there is another lake, boathouse and island - I believe they will be opening that area up to the public in the future.

Last year my daughter visited the gardens with her boyfriend, it was her first visit since the day after Dad died a few years ago when we made an emotional visit to the boathouse area.  On this latest visit her boyfriend proposed to her in the pin mill - they got married last month.  The place has many memories for her, walks with her grandfather on quiet Sunday evenings and the proposal.  Really special place for myself and my family.

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Post by: hollins on November 18, 2013, 10:32:16 am
Such a heartwarming story, thanks.
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Post by: Linda on November 18, 2013, 07:53:21 pm
Yes lovely story and it clarifies the work down in the dell. Idyllic childhood memories. The promise of one day the area further upstream becoming public is something to look forward to . Thanks for that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 18, 2013, 08:09:57 pm
When I was on the Orme yesterday morning saw a small pod of dolphins (about 5 or 6) ... seemed a bit late in the year for them.  They were directly opposite the bottom of the zig-zags and visible for about 20 minutes before disappearing.

Whow! exciting DVT  im an ardent seawatcher.  Were they bottlenose or poss harbour porpoise only its good to report sightings to Seawatch, numbers can be recorded as North Wales seems to have its fair share of sightings. The week before last a largish whale spotted off Puffin reported to be an Orca very unusual i would think. $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 18, 2013, 08:14:43 pm
Until a couple of years ago there was a Toll Collector at the Zig-Zag junction and he would regularly see dolphins in that area.   Maybe they appear at certain times of the tide, so it could become a regular viewing point!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 18, 2013, 08:38:53 pm
That would be a great tourists and crowd puller for the area as 3 times this year my friend has seen pods of around 3-4 Dolphin/porpoise in Llanddulas when the mackerel were in. I saw them last year in midsummer off Old Colwyn swimming and breaching towards the Rainbow bridge area and Llanddulas. My friend also saw them the same afternoon. In 2011 we were convinced we saw a basking shark  as was seen also in Penrhryn bay by a man in a canoe. We watched this creature for an hour or so very slowly swimming back and forth nose tip and dorsal showing. So whey hey! some great creatures to look out for.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 18, 2013, 09:33:19 pm
When I was on the Orme yesterday morning saw a small pod of dolphins (about 5 or 6) ... seemed a bit late in the year for them.  They were directly opposite the bottom of the zig-zags and visible for about 20 minutes before disappearing.

I was standing in the same area a few weeks ago watching the Cambrian Rally alongside some marshalls and we saw them then.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 19, 2013, 05:34:05 pm
I was walking along Mostyn St early this afternoon and, right in front of me, an older lady tripped on the uneven paving stones and fell headfirst into the road. I helped get her back onto her feet and she was obviously very distressed by it all.

The state of  the pavements is absolutely terrible and incidents like this are all too common. I've seen no substantial repairs to the Mostyn St pavements in the last ten years and the condition of them is just getting worse and worse. How about we get the basics dealt with before spending millions on white elephants like the Watersports centre?

When I was in Southport the other week, the pavements in Lord St were absolutely immaculate - such a contrast with shabby Llandudno.
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Post by: Dave on November 19, 2013, 06:27:32 pm

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/Rioja_1/HarbourPorpoise2010-08-281.jpg) (http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Rioja_1/media/HarbourPorpoise2010-08-281.jpg.html)

Harbour Porpoise as seen off the Little Orme August 2010.
A pod with youngsters.
They are far more frequently seen than lots realise.

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/Rioja_1/HarbourPorpoise2010-08-28.jpg) (http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Rioja_1/media/HarbourPorpoise2010-08-28.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2013, 06:28:46 pm
Can I ask if the Lady is going to file a complaint?  I have had lots of correspondence with CCBC on Highways matters and another complaint could help in getting things done.  :rage:
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Post by: wrex on November 19, 2013, 07:49:10 pm
I was going to winge about the xmas lights but now i suppose we had better get the towns buisnesses sorting out the pavements,they pay enought rates
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Linda on November 19, 2013, 08:55:09 pm
I was walking along Mostyn St early this afternoon and, right in front of me, an older lady tripped on the uneven paving stones and fell headfirst into the road. I helped get her back onto her feet and she was obviously very distressed by it all.

The state of  the pavements is absolutely terrible and incidents like this are all too common. I've seen no substantial repairs to the Mostyn St pavements in the last ten years and the condition of them is just getting worse and worse. How about we get the basics dealt with before spending millions on white elephants like the Watersports centre?

When I was in Southport the other week, the pavements in Lord St were absolutely immaculate - such a contrast with shabby Llandudno.
I was going in Marks last week and a lady tripped along there too, I couldnt believe the state on the pavement. The council must be able to afford damage payouts but not repairs. This lady was in shaken as well.
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Post by: Linda on November 19, 2013, 08:59:37 pm

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/Rioja_1/HarbourPorpoise2010-08-281.jpg) (http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Rioja_1/media/HarbourPorpoise2010-08-281.jpg.html)

Harbour Porpoise as seen off the Little Orme August 2010.
A pod with youngsters.
They are far more frequently seen than lots realise.

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/Rioja_1/HarbourPorpoise2010-08-28.jpg) (http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Rioja_1/media/HarbourPorpoise2010-08-28.jpg.html)

Photos are amazing, such lovely creatures .We are so lucky living by the coast. I appreciate it even after 41 years of living here. Thankyou for showing them.

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Post by: DaveR on November 19, 2013, 09:28:40 pm
Can I ask if the Lady is going to file a complaint?  I have had lots of correspondence with CCBC on Highways matters and another complaint could help in getting things done.  :rage:
I don't know, as I went on my way once the Police turned up to assist. I would recommend that anyone suffering a trip or fall due to the state of the pavements contacts both CCBC and the relevant Councillor to complain. I know the matter has been raised with the Cabinet Member for Highways, Mike Priestley, and he is investigating funding for pavement renewal.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 19, 2013, 09:41:58 pm
It is not the fault of the Councillors.  The quality of Some Officers and Staff employed by the County leave a lot to be desired.   I have found this to be particularly true of certain sections of the Highways Department.   Even complaints to the Chief Exec seem to go unheeded.   I am still awaiting a reply from almost 2 weeks ago from Mr Davies.

It is a case of "stick head in sand" and it will go away.   They even have special courses on how to avoid taking any action!     :rage:
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Post by: 1_rob_1 on November 20, 2013, 08:35:45 am
Love the photos of the porpoises Dave, it must have been a fantastic sight for you.  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2013, 09:04:32 am
It is not the fault of the Councillors.
It is not their fault, but it is their responsibility. Collectively, they are there to set policies and to hold CCBC staff to account. What is to stop a Llandudno County Councillor raising the pavements issue at the next relevant Committee meeting?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2013, 09:10:04 am
Very rough into town this morning! A mammoth hail & rainstorm first thing left the roads very slippery & flooded. Good thing it mostly cleared before the rush hour.
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Post by: Nemesis on November 20, 2013, 10:42:57 am
I'm sure people think me rude, but I often walk along with my head down. Having had one nasty fall ( which I claimed for and won) I don't fancy another. Some of the pavements along Mostyn Street are like being on a see-saw and if it has rained all the mud squidges up and splashes. Thus I tend to have my eye on where I am putting my feet !

Town was quite well flooded in parts as I drove to Asda this morning.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 20, 2013, 11:15:28 am
It is not the fault of the Councillors.
It is not their fault, but it is their responsibility. Collectively, they are there to set policies and to hold CCBC staff to account. What is to stop a Llandudno County Councillor raising the pavements issue at the next relevant Committee meeting?

I should have said not the "Total responsibility of   etc."
I quite agree and as I have passed on the information I am sure the item can be put on the agenda for another Meeting.  In the meantime a communication is also being sent direct to the Highways Department as urgent action could be necessary to alleviate other incidents.
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Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2013, 11:24:00 am
Good work.  $good$
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Post by: Minime on November 20, 2013, 10:22:44 pm
Very rough into town this morning! A mammoth hail & rainstorm first thing left the roads very slippery & flooded. Good thing it mostly cleared before the rush hour.

It was absolutely horrendous, I left at 7.10am and had hail, sleet, torrential rain, thunder, lightning, high winds and car was aqua planing on the a55 going uphill after rhuallt.  Terrible
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Post by: Minime on November 20, 2013, 10:30:55 pm
I was walking along Mostyn St early this afternoon and, right in front of me, an older lady tripped on the uneven paving stones and fell headfirst into the road. I helped get her back onto her feet and she was obviously very distressed by it all.

The state of  the pavements is absolutely terrible and incidents like this are all too common. I've seen no substantial repairs to the Mostyn St pavements in the last ten years and the condition of them is just getting worse and worse. How about we get the basics dealt with before spending millions on white elephants like the Watersports centre?

When I was in Southport the other week, the pavements in Lord St were absolutely immaculate - such a contrast with shabby Llandudno.


Very worrying Dave.  A trip to an elderly person can be life changing and take away independence, doesnt take a lot to cause severe injury.
Perhaps send in some contrast pics of other resorts ie this is Southport lord st, this is llandudno Mostyn cres
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Post by: Bri Roberts on November 23, 2013, 05:26:31 pm
Has the beach on the North Shore received a quantity of sand over the past few days?   *&(

In fact, there is so much that it has started to blow onto the promenade between the lifeboat slipway and the pier.  :-}}}

Can someone please provide a second opinion when next passing?  $thanx$

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Post by: Yorkie on November 23, 2013, 06:46:00 pm
Probably washed in by the heavy seas we have had in last few days.  It can take it off the beach as well as putting it on which is why over time beaches maintain a similar average level.   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 24, 2013, 07:25:24 am
Never seen it so busy on a winter Saturday as yesterday,last saturday was not as busy so like the market or not it bought some bodies into town spending a fair bit i should imagine.
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Post by: wrex on November 24, 2013, 08:17:02 am
for anyone interested take a look do take a look down Mostyn st next time your there and see how many blue lamposts there are,and then imagine a xmas light stuck on each,now that would make Mostyn st stand out and would surely not cost a fortune the symbols could even stand out above the pavement to stop them being hit by a lorry.Also imagine a much bigger tree on bog island,it could be a outstanding display with just a little imagination.As for Parc Llandudno im just discusted they spend not a penny on xmas lights.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2013, 09:42:46 am
Catch 22 siutation. 

No money, no lights.  No lights, no people.   No people, no money!

It needs some enterprising person or a rich philanthropist to break the circle!   ZXZ
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Post by: Michael on November 24, 2013, 09:53:09 am
fester get up that lamppost
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Post by: wrex on November 24, 2013, 01:34:23 pm
who said they are skint.
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Post by: Fester on November 24, 2013, 07:59:49 pm
fester get up that lamppost

Been away for a few days, feasting and shopping.... so I hardly think the lamp post would bear my weight!  :laugh:   $drink$ $dins$
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Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2013, 08:02:44 pm
for anyone interested take a look do take a look down Mostyn st next time your there and see how many blue lamposts there are,and then imagine a xmas light stuck on each,now that would make Mostyn st stand out and would surely not cost a fortune the symbols could even stand out above the pavement to stop them being hit by a lorry.Also imagine a much bigger tree on bog island,it could be a outstanding display with just a little imagination.As for Parc Llandudno im just discusted they spend not a penny on xmas lights.
A great idea...apart from the fact the Victorian lamp posts currently have no electricity supply.
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Post by: wrex on November 24, 2013, 09:03:45 pm
Omg Dave that is what i would expect the councillors to say,there are wires and lights all over the place,it would not be that hard with a bit of desire to connect some new symbols to the mains.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 25, 2013, 07:18:11 am

A great idea...apart from the fact the Victorian lamp posts currently have no electricity supply.

Well, one learns something new everyday!  I didn't even know these Victorian lamposts had no bulbs!
 ZXZ
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Post by: Ian on November 25, 2013, 08:01:36 am
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there are wires and lights all over the place,it would not be that hard with a bit of desire to connect some new symbols to the mains.

Perhaps not for you, Wrex, but Councillors who assume £30,000 to fix a broken pump and feeder pipe in Happy valley is reasonable will probably assume a lot more for re-cabling.
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Post by: DVT on November 25, 2013, 09:19:48 am
How about some battery operated LED lights? - I would have thought that possible.  Use rechargeable batteries and keep changing them round to re-charge.  Plenty to be found on websites - even some of the stores in town sell them!

Somebody should know if that could work.
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Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2013, 09:46:38 am
I believe the Town Council was charged approx £2000 for the installation of just 1 feeder pillar (electricity supply) to the lights on the tree outside the leather shop in Upper Mostyn St.

Battery powered LED displays are certainly worth considering.
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Post by: wrex on November 25, 2013, 03:24:20 pm
DaveR you and i know it could have been done cheaper,i was thinking of a feed of the strings or the lamps on the walls not a complete refit,its only for 9 weeks a year,im sure it could be done if only we had somebody with a bit of common on there.
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Post by: born2run on November 25, 2013, 04:16:29 pm
What's Llandudno like now - don't know

But what it's like on a Sunday is ruddy hard to get to!
Because there are no trains running there. I can manage to get trains from Feltham all the way to Junction no problem - but once I get to junction after my 5 hour journey I either have the option to wait in the cold for a bus and pay an extra £3 of my hard earned money on top of the £100 I've already paid for my ticket from london to LLANDUDNO (false advertising if ever I've seen it  &shake&) or pay a tenner in a taxi

Queen of Welsh resorts? Only for 6 days of the week  $angry$
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Post by: Cambrian on November 25, 2013, 05:09:08 pm
As far as I know there have been no trains in the winter to Llandudno since the early 1970s. The only way I believe that this can be changed is if the next franchise agreement puts a requirement on the operator to do so. Welsh Government/Assembly is now in charge of the franchise.
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Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2013, 11:12:16 am
WG has the power to arrange extra train services from the Franchisee as long as they are happy to pay for them.

Question is, would enough people use it to make it worthwhile? Or would it just be cheaper to pay for a taxi for the few people that did want to use it?

I believe that the Conwy Valley line doesnt operate on Sundays in the Winter either. Flooding problems aside, that seems crazy to me.
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Post by: born2run on November 26, 2013, 01:45:40 pm
WG has the power to arrange extra train services from the Franchisee as long as they are happy to pay for them.

Question is, would enough people use it to make it worthwhile? Or would it just be cheaper to pay for a taxi for the few people that did want to use it?

I believe that the Conwy Valley line doesnt operate on Sundays in the Winter either. Flooding problems aside, that seems crazy to me.

They don't pay for a taxi the poor commuters like me have to pay it ourselves, they should at least make the buses free to Llandudno, even then you still have an inconveniance but it would be something.
And plenty of people would use it - about 10 people got off the 4pm train with me all needing to go to Llandudno and perplexed they couldn't
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Post by: wrex on November 26, 2013, 05:24:13 pm
Oscar is giving the xmas lights an airing but very few people as on here give a damn really,im not sure why it bugs me really,hoteliers don;t bother,Mostyn Estates don;t bother,LLadudno regeneration partnership don;t worry so why do i,Parc Llandudno useless ,Asda nothing,yet i still cannot believe nobody in town gives a damn.
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Post by: Michael on November 26, 2013, 05:53:20 pm
  This is the ultimate thing of course. USE It OR LOOSE IT.

  There have been many bus and train services which only one person once in a blue moon ever used.
Over 25 years ago I operated a bus service around MarliinSt Asaph. Twice a week inad out. Got paid by the taxpayer around £40 a week. About 3 pax ifi was lucky.
  When it came to retendering I told the what was then clwydc.cit would be cheaper and better to go to a max of six household, tell them we will put a phoneinyour house, pay for it, and every time u want to go to st Asaph, just phone a taxi and we will pay for it. You will  save yourself a bomb.

Things are better now, but for every time ten pax want to travel from l.j. To Llandudno off season---how about all the times the train runs with no one on?  And who is going to pay for the empty trains?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on November 26, 2013, 09:07:39 pm
This Saturday is going to be very busy with Xmas Fayres.

St John's Church, St Paul's Church House, Town Hall and the Baptist Church on West Shore to name but four events.

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Post by: born2run on November 27, 2013, 08:59:08 am
  This is the ultimate thing of course. USE It OR LOOSE IT.

  There have been many bus and train services which only one person once in a blue moon ever used.
Over 25 years ago I operated a bus service around MarliinSt Asaph. Twice a week inad out. Got paid by the taxpayer around £40 a week. About 3 pax ifi was lucky.
  When it came to retendering I told the what was then clwydc.cit would be cheaper and better to go to a max of six household, tell them we will put a phoneinyour house, pay for it, and every time u want to go to st Asaph, just phone a taxi and we will pay for it. You will  save yourself a bomb.

Things are better now, but for every time ten pax want to travel from l.j. To Llandudno off season---how about all the times the train runs with no one on?  And who is going to pay for the empty trains?

There's no reason why the normal hourly Manchester Picaddily train shouldn't run - even if it's put back to every two hours it would be something. it's open the other 6 days of the week - you can't tell me that Sunday is less busy that a Wednesday afternoon for example? Sunday is part of the weekend, lots of people like me will be returning from their travels. The issue of the train not being used doesn't hold water.

I would guess that the train workers get paid time and a half on Sundays and that this is the real motive behind it
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Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2013, 09:12:44 am
That's probably the reason. Manning Llandudno Station, the signalbox, the signalbox at Deganwy, the costs will soon start to add up. However, those costs will still be miniscule, when compared with amounts spent on other parts of the rail network, particularly in London/South East.

There really should be some sort of 2 hour service to Manchester as a minimum on a Sunday.
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Post by: wrex on November 27, 2013, 12:57:54 pm
Lets get our own cinema,sunday market ,give eople a reason to come to Llandudno on a winter Sunday and Arriva Wales will soon get trains running.
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Post by: born2run on November 27, 2013, 01:08:02 pm
Lets get our own cinema,sunday market ,give eople a reason to come to Llandudno on a winter Sunday and Arriva Wales will soon get trains running.

What about the coming back here! I don't find Llandudno at all interesting so I'm away pretty much every weekend but I still have to come back here  $walesflag$ About time someone did something for people who lived here and not just visitors
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Post by: DaveR on November 28, 2013, 09:27:50 am
Can I ask if the Lady is going to file a complaint?  I have had lots of correspondence with CCBC on Highways matters and another complaint could help in getting things done.  :rage:
I don't know, as I went on my way once the Police turned up to assist. I would recommend that anyone suffering a trip or fall due to the state of the pavements contacts both CCBC and the relevant Councillor to complain. I know the matter has been raised with the Cabinet Member for Highways, Mike Priestley, and he is investigating funding for pavement renewal.
It seems that our efforts to highlight this issue are bearing fruit:

Judith Phillips ‏@WeeklyNewsJude
Taskforce to be set up to deal with Llandudno's dangerous pavements. See today's North Wales Weekly News for the story.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on November 28, 2013, 10:20:10 pm
This Saturday is going to be very busy with Xmas Fayres.

St John's Church, St Paul's Church House, Town Hall and the Baptist Church on West Shore to name but four events.

I understand there is also a Xmas Fayre this Saturday in Trinity Church.  VV

If so, that makes five.  I*

I bet there will be none locally the following Saturday.  %0%

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Post by: Bellringer on November 29, 2013, 01:25:07 pm
This Saturday is going to be very busy with Xmas Fayres.


I understand there is also a Xmas Fayre this Saturday in Trinity Church.  VV

If so, that makes five.  I*

I bet there will be none locally the following Saturday.  %0%

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Holy Trinity's was on Sat. 16th November, and so was Gloddaeth United.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on November 29, 2013, 04:00:09 pm
I have seen the Holy Trinity Church recently advertised for tomorrow somewhere, Stan, and if I come across it again I will let you know where it was.

As for Gloddaeth United then I shall not dispute that fact except to say I did not mention that church on my list for tomorrow.

However, while I can understand all the shops starting Xmas these days in October/November, I am surprised to learn from you that some religious establishments locally are now choosing to have their Xmas Fayres in mid-November.  :o

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Post by: Bellringer on November 29, 2013, 05:12:54 pm
Bri, it might be that an outside organisation, charity or other has hired the church hall for one.

Christmas fairs have started from the middle of November onwards certainly in recent years. At Holy Trinity we try to avoid clashing with the Hospice one and generally hold it on the Saturday before.
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Post by: wrex on November 29, 2013, 06:03:06 pm
Never mind Bri, your good old town council don;t seem to be puting their xmas tree lights on till the 7th so somebody is sticking to protocol,shame tomorrow is the buisiest shopping day and we ain;t turned on our xmas tree lights yet,ho ho
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Post by: Bellringer on November 29, 2013, 06:17:23 pm
They all seemed to be on when I was in town earlier/
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Post by: wrex on November 29, 2013, 06:34:16 pm
xmas tree lights sir
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Post by: Bellringer on November 29, 2013, 10:04:08 pm
Wrex, at 4.15pm from what I could see they all seemed to be on including those outside the Town Hall. However when I went to our ringing practice at about 7.15 the Town Hall were not lit and neither was the tree on 'Bog Island'.

BTW It is unnecessary to call me 'sir' you know! 
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Post by: Bellringer on November 29, 2013, 10:09:15 pm
I have seen the Holy Trinity Church recently advertised for tomorrow somewhere, Stan,

Bri. I checked the Church diary tonight when I went to ring. There is a coffee morning tomorrow 9am - 1pm for The Circle of Friends. Not sure who they are but they must be hiring the hall for the purpose.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on November 29, 2013, 10:57:42 pm
Thanks, Stan.

That will save me from looking although I am convinced I saw something somewhere along the lines of Holy Trinity Church - Xmas Fayre - Saturday, 30 November.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Minime on November 29, 2013, 11:51:34 pm
Have you seen the prices of trains?  We looked into going from pwllheli to barmouth for a day trip and for the 4 of us it was 33 quid!  Cost me less than a tenner return in diesel for that trip.  Pity as the kids love trains but theyre so expensive we only really bother with the porthmadog to Ffestiniog WHR one as a treat
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Post by: Ian on November 30, 2013, 08:27:33 am
Perhaps a family rail card would help?

Rail comes into its own for longer runs, I find. For instance, Llandudno to London can be done for about £80.00 for two. In a car, although the fuel might cost less, you have to add in depreciation, insurance and maintenance as well as the stress of driving down to London and finding somewhere to park as centrally as the train delivers you.

We go to Europe fairly frequently and would choose Virgin to London and Eurostar after that every time.  Not only is it a much more pleasant experience on the train in terms of getting to your destination, it's largely comparable with flying in cost terms.
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Post by: Nemesis on November 30, 2013, 08:38:03 am
They all seemed to be on when I was in town earlier/

Most of the ones above the streets have been on all year !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 30, 2013, 01:23:44 pm
Bri. I checked the Church diary tonight when I went to ring. There is a coffee morning tomorrow 9am - 1pm for The Circle of Friends. Not sure who they are but they must be hiring the hall for the purpose.

Stan, I had a look this morning on our way to the Town Hall and it was the Inter-Charity Christmas Fayre (10.30am - 2.30pm).  VV
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Post by: Barbiroli on November 30, 2013, 01:34:55 pm
Hi Bri I also went to the Town Hall this morning, but what a squeeze the room was far too small.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on November 30, 2013, 01:57:54 pm
It certainly was.

Father Christmas sitting on the stairs !!

I think they could have made better use of the foyer, if it was allowed.

No doubt they will fix it for next year.

I managed to find a table on the stage at the far end to enjoy a coffee plus a couple of home-made scones while Mrs R went round and bought some bargain wool and cakes.
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Post by: Nemesis on November 30, 2013, 04:03:13 pm
Agreed-- the place was rammed when I called at 10 past 10, it was difficult to get round, but I bought a couple of books and won a cross eyed pig on the teddy tombola! Should think the takings will be good ! ;D That would be the main thing .
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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2013, 08:17:42 am
A reminder that the section of Mostyn St between Lloyds Bank and KFC will be closed today, to enable new roof trusses to be lifted into position on the Alexandra Hotel.
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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2013, 03:23:08 pm
Mostyn St is still closed this afternoon as work continues on the Alexandra Hotel:
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2013, 03:15:31 pm
Llandudno was saved from serious flooding today, purely because the wind was not straight onto North Shore. Even with the wind focusing the waves towards the paddling pool area, water was overtopping the sea wall and flooding the Prom in several small areas.

I'll stick some photos up in a bit.
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2013, 03:34:05 pm
First lot of pics - Paddling Pool area today at High Tide:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 05, 2013, 03:37:27 pm
This was the scene at 12.30pm outside Venue Cymru.

That's 30 minutes after high tide.

Llandudno's north shore was so lucky.
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2013, 03:46:54 pm
That same location at 12.54:
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Post by: Nemesis on December 05, 2013, 03:54:40 pm
Marvellous pics--- did you keep your feet dry?
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2013, 03:58:33 pm
Marvellous pics--- did you keep your feet dry?
Almost...  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2013, 03:59:38 pm
Couple more pics of North Shore Prom taking a battering:
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Post by: hollins on December 05, 2013, 04:00:58 pm
Blimey, scary photos. I hope you have all come through it unscathed.
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2013, 05:05:17 pm
I think Llandudno managed to escape relatively unscathed. I've never seen it like this before:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 05, 2013, 05:24:46 pm
Great pics! Looks like Llandudno has been very lucky!
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Post by: Fester on December 05, 2013, 11:11:14 pm
Blimey, scary photos. I hope you have all come through it unscathed.

Sadly, Hollins, I have to report that one of my plastic garden chairs was blown over.
I would post a picture of it, but it it would be too distressing.

Seriously though, this type of weather is causing real hardship for many.
My Dad has had about 25% of his roof ripped off by the gales in Yorkshire.  He is too old for that type of hassle.
In the meantime, over 400 people in Rhyl are not allowed to return to their flooded houses overnight.
I am thinking that we are seeing more and more of these incidences of 'freak' weather.
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Post by: Ian on December 06, 2013, 03:51:13 am
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I am thinking that we are seeing more and more of these incidences of 'freak' weather.

Exactly as climatologists predicted when climate change was first mooted. Statistically, freak conditions will occur more frequently.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 07, 2013, 06:16:51 pm
All the stores are certainly getting in the Xmas spirit and one can't do the shopping without having to listen to all the old Carols and Xmas songs.
We will all be fed up by the 25th.   The Easter eggs will be out in a couple of weeks!   :D
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Post by: Bellringer on December 07, 2013, 07:28:09 pm
Oh good, I can have a Cadbury's Creme Egg!!   
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Post by: wrex on December 08, 2013, 08:14:37 pm
How did the xmas parade go yesterday,not trying vto knock it just asking the question,i was watching Llandudno fc or i would have made the effort.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 08, 2013, 09:25:30 pm
How did the xmas parade go yesterday,not trying vto knock it just asking the question,i was watching Llandudno fc or i would have made the effort.

Haven't heard any whinges yet, but then I didn't watch it myself!    :P
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Post by: Bellringer on December 09, 2013, 09:40:41 am
Have a look at Oscar.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 09, 2013, 03:41:13 pm
Have a look at Oscar.

Don't read Oscar, but today I did get an opinion from someone who assisted in marshalling and he was not enamoured with the effort.
Give the parade back to Mr Rose or let the Round Table, Lions and the like have a go.   ZXZ
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Post by: wrex on December 09, 2013, 04:57:16 pm
If you remember Yorkie Mr Rose came to the council and asked for £6,000 to keep putting it on,this is when Janet Finch said they could do a better job and told Mr Rose to do one,so he walked,since then there have been no late-nite shopping,no entertainment,no brass bands,poor xmas lights and a very poor parade which last 20 minutes with a little show from 3pm,wonderful come to Llandudno the tourist board say,xmas wonderland,only wondering you do is to wonder why the main st is is what,im lost for words anymore.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 09, 2013, 05:13:14 pm
Wrex, I remember it well.  Wasn't just her, Jack and a few others put the boot in also!   ;)
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Post by: DaveR on December 09, 2013, 06:02:08 pm
Prom Shelter full of pebbles after last week's storm:
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Post by: wrex on December 10, 2013, 11:28:12 am
Pantomine season is here and once again the stupid CCBC could;nt organise a p up in a brewery,there are coaches parked all over the side streets when the coach park on Mostyn Broadway sits there empty,oh yes i did say EMPTY,only a stoes throw from the theater and CCBC let these coaches block the prom instead of parking on the Broadway and the kids walk 500 yards,pathetic,no major roads to cross and only a 2 minute walk.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 10, 2013, 11:35:14 am
Two huge lorry loads of pebbles being tipped onto the beach area next to the lifeboat slipway earlier this morning. Nearly buried the edge of the slipway. What a job to shift that lot !
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Post by: norman08 on December 10, 2013, 11:55:02 am
ha ha you call them pepples ,they were doing the same yesterday ,are this council hell bent on destroying our once lovely sandy beach,mind you they are hell bent on destoying the whole town  :rage:
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Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2013, 06:06:01 pm
I was walking along Mostyn St early this afternoon and, right in front of me, an older lady tripped on the uneven paving stones and fell headfirst into the road. I helped get her back onto her feet and she was obviously very distressed by it all.

The state of  the pavements is absolutely terrible and incidents like this are all too common. I've seen no substantial repairs to the Mostyn St pavements in the last ten years and the condition of them is just getting worse and worse. How about we get the basics dealt with before spending millions on white elephants like the Watersports centre?

When I was in Southport the other week, the pavements in Lord St were absolutely immaculate - such a contrast with shabby Llandudno.
I noticed that the section of pavement where the lady fell over has been replaced today. Now only another 100 sections of damaged paving to do!
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Post by: Fester on December 11, 2013, 12:03:21 am
How did the xmas parade go yesterday,not trying vto knock it just asking the question,i was watching Llandudno fc or i would have made the effort.

Mrs Fester and I watched some of the Xmas parade whilst pottering about town, and I thought it was very well attended by both participants and spectators.   I very much like to see the floats and particularly the old tram / bus.
All the shops and coffee bars were full too.   Nope, I'm not knocking it, I thought it was pretty good.

I am heartily sick of seeing blood-stained  Star Wars stormtroopers marching though, (as they do in the Extravaganza)
I can't think of anything less festive or Victorian than them.
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Post by: Ian on December 11, 2013, 08:11:46 am
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I noticed that the section of pavement where the lady fell over has been replaced today. Now only another 100 sections of damaged paving to do!

Interestingly they pursue this rather short-sighted policy with road repairs, too. In one of the many steep gradient sections of roads in and around the Conwy Valley successive winters had seen the tarmac eroded, then patched, then eroded, then patched and so on. Finally, following the heavy snows in April this year, they decided to send in the road laying teams. A very muted cheer went up, but faded quickly as it soon became clear they'd only replaced the most damaged bit. Naturally, the new bit is withstanding use well, but the old sections on either end are sporting cracks and holes. Having had the team in place with the material why on earth didn't they do the entire (and relatively short) stretch of road?
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Post by: Yorkie on December 11, 2013, 08:43:52 am
Because they all suffer from Myopia!   They need to go to Specsavers!   :D
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Post by: DaveR on December 11, 2013, 09:06:23 am
The condition of rural roads in the County has been a concern for some time:
http://www.lgcplus.com/conwys-highways-maintenance-service-gets-fair-report/1273015.article (http://www.lgcplus.com/conwys-highways-maintenance-service-gets-fair-report/1273015.article)
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Post by: Dave on December 13, 2013, 12:20:12 pm
Just back from 3 weeks in Sri Lanka so I was very interested to see Dave R's excellent storm pictures that capture the local events while we were away.

Interestingly, the festive spirit in Sri Lanka is very much alive and well with some huge and impressive roadside nativity scenes and the sound of school concerts and church carol singing very much in evidence because, with the benefit of good weather much of it is outdoors.This is by no means a Christian country , in fact they are a relatively small minority but those who practice well and truly believe and for them Christmas is still a religious festival not a commercial one.
Colombo airport is lined with Christmas tree illuminations along all the corridors, a joy to see. Arrival back in Manchester was a rather glum affair.

Now, as for Llandudno, well there will be some small nativity creations outside one or two churches but that's it, after all as practicing Christians we exist only in small and ageing numbers.
What members on here are asking for is a glitzy commercial adaptation of Christmas and for that commercial businesses should be prepared to put in the effort but they don't do they ! My suggestion would be incentives or competitions for those who make an effort both with illuminated windows at Christmas and hanging baskets in summer. Not sure how you would organise it but I'm sure it could be done. A bit more pride in our town is needed and not just an expectation that the council will fix everything... well they struggle with the basics so we can't expect too much can we !
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Post by: Ian on December 13, 2013, 01:57:48 pm
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What members on here are asking for is a glitzy commercial adaptation of Christmas and for that commercial businesses should be prepared to put in the effort but they don't

Celebrating winter festivals has a long and ancient history which has occurred in the Northern Hemisphere for thousands of years, until Christian Missionaries hijacked the concepts for their own ends. Glitzy and commercial is probably the correct slant for the Xmas period, now, as it returns to its Pagan roots. On that basis, businesses should certainly cough up more than they do.
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Post by: wrex on December 13, 2013, 04:30:19 pm
Should the buisnesses in Mostyn st not expect for rates a little xmas light,attractive that is what Llandudno should be all year round for everybody,xmas,summer all year,we attract tourists and shoppers all year and the town council should strive to make sure they all come back.
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Post by: Dave on December 13, 2013, 05:10:18 pm
Should the buisnesses in Mostyn st not expect for rates a little xmas light,attractive that is what Llandudno should be all year round for everybody,xmas,summer all year,we attract tourists and shoppers all year and the town council should strive to make sure they all come back.

Isn't in the businesses interest to attract shoppers too ? Nipped down to Aldi earlier and other than MacDonalds having some giant snowflakes hanging in the window there was absolutely nothing else to be seen.
As an aside, at 2.00pm the traffic lights were causing heavy congestion trying to exit the retail park via the Staples roundabout. They need adjusting asap before tempers become fraught at best. Coming out of town there were no queues at all yet there was only enough time allowed for an average 7 or 8 cars to go through on green encouraging one or two to exit on amber .
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Post by: wrex on December 13, 2013, 06:29:19 pm
I had highways down there two years ago,they said noway can they adjust them,clueless.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 13, 2013, 08:05:36 pm
I had highways down there two years ago,they said noway can they adjust them,clueless.

This harks back to the time the original plans were submitted for the new ASDA.  The traffic position was queried and the ASDA consultants produced a 400 page document detailing how and why the traffic would flow freely.  At the Council Meeting I speciffically asked why it was neccessary for such a large study if there was not going to be major problems, and suggested that the report was purely to try and disguise the fact that there would be problems.  Vehemently denied by them, of course.   The truth has since been proved.    :rage:
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Post by: wrex on December 14, 2013, 07:11:16 am
It must effect the people trading on Mostyn Champneys so its up to the managers of each store to get of their backsides and sort it out with their landlord,its easy for us,we can just avoid it at busy times but i do feel sorry for people stuck on there.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 15, 2013, 11:48:12 am
Plenty of Santas gathered on the prom earlier !
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Post by: wrex on December 15, 2013, 01:21:52 pm
I have just been to Mostyn Champneys,mistake,i thought this early it would be ok,wrong,chaos ,why highways don;t just ditch the one set of traffic lights exiting the park and just put a give way sign,it would allow a lot more traffic to get out,you still need the other lights for traffic to cross into Mostyn Champneys but no need for the exiting lights whatsoever,thoughts please .
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Post by: Fester on December 15, 2013, 01:41:35 pm
Agreed Wrex, it was utter madness in and around the car parks of Mostyn Champneys today and yesterday.

I needed to go on both days as I would have missed the chance to send some prezzies to a family member if I left it any later.
But, I would dearly have loved to have left it until Monday.

Getting in and out of Mostyn Champneys was a real ordeal.
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Post by: born2run on December 15, 2013, 01:42:46 pm
Agreed Wrex, it was utter madness in and around the car parks of Mostyn Champneys today and yesterday.

I needed to go on both days as I would have missed the chance to send some prezzies to a family member if I left it any later.
But, I would dearly have loved to have left it until Monday.

Getting in and out of Mostyn Champneys was a real ordeal.

Several health and safety issues in Champneys car park yesterday, lucky someone wasn't hurt
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Post by: systema on December 15, 2013, 06:52:32 pm
Santa and Christmas Puds  ;D nice costumes.

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Post by: systema on December 15, 2013, 09:15:09 pm
The race begins.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 15, 2013, 09:35:52 pm
Good to see!  $cool$ By the way welcome to the forum!  :)
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Post by: wrex on December 16, 2013, 12:07:18 pm
Reported the chaos on fixmystreet to highways about Mostyn Champneys,had no reply as of yet,they are probabley trying to find it.
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Post by: Mikethewatch on December 16, 2013, 12:30:44 pm
Highways think its fine to put a care home in a road where ambulances frequently get stuck  so I doubt if they will be interested frankly
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Post by: FatAndy on December 16, 2013, 06:50:33 pm
I can't understand how there could possibly be any problems with traffic at Mostyn Champneys given that there's a "professional" parking "management" company employed to "manage" the car park  :roll:.

But then again Parking Eye do nothing more than take photos of cars entering and leaving the car park, and if someone gets stuck in queue when trying to leave then that might just take them over the time limit to trigger a scam letter.  And as many people are unfortunately unaware of POPLA I'm sure many will cough up £60 to the scammers  :(.
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Post by: wrex on December 17, 2013, 11:58:51 am
So we have another Labour person on the town council and we have another conservative on the town council,what good will this do for Llandudno i wonder.When i sat on the council you had,Arthur Todd,Christine Jones and Janet Finch all fighting each other to make sure they got their person as mayor,politics should not be allowed on a town council,the candidates are only there for their party,it stinks,i was part of it all but i think althought i did;nt achieve much i tried and had an interest.
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Post by: Ian on December 17, 2013, 01:07:14 pm
It's a fascinating problem, Wrex. While I'm not entirely sure Political parties have much of an effect on local councils in the main, I suspect you have a two-fold problem should you wish to eliminate party membership entirely.

The first arises because - although your idea is perfectly sane and sensible - politicians feel safer in a mob. Having to actually deal with each other on the basis of personal honesty and integrity would probably strain the poor things beyond their  breaking points.

Secondly, however, asking them to work selflessly and openly on behalf of their constituencies is a bit like asking a tank of Piranha to be nice to the goldfish. It simply isn't in the average politician's nature.

The incredible Jay and Lynn knew the consequences:

"Asking a town hall to slim down its staff is like asking an alcoholic to blow up a distillery."

"Almost anything can be attacked as a failure, but almost anything can be defended as not a significant failure. Politicians do not appreciate the significance of 'significant'. "

"Politicians have an enviable intellectual suppleness and moral maneuverability. Translation: You can't trust them further than you can throw them."
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Post by: Fester on December 17, 2013, 10:49:39 pm
What's Llandudno like tonight?    Disappointing really.

Mrs Fester and I fancied a few drinks and something to eat.
We realised that any night leading up to Xmas was likely to be pretty busy.
How wrong could we be.

Dr Jones Bar.  They still don't have food available, (been coming soon for 6 months) ... but we had a really nice beer in there, and set off in search of foof.
The Gresham.   No food available on Tuesday night.   A nice beer consumed, and we set off elsewhere.

Mr B's.  Not open yet, but heard the owner chatting to some staff members outside, and I must admit to being a little troubled by what I overheard.    Along the lines of... 'if they order X, just give them Y, they won't know the difference anyway'

Fountains Bar.   Not a soul in apart from us.  A shame, because it was very nice in there.

The Lilly, (ex Fat Cat's).   A few nice beers, and Food available til 10pm.
Ordered the Lamb Shoulder at £11.95.   It was OK I suppose, but it really isnt lamb shoulder.  It is a rolled up 'meatloaf' type thing, with shredded lamb mixed with other stuff.

I ordered the Bacon and Cheese Burger.   (£9.95).  Not too bad, about 7/10.  But as usual the burger itself is no better than a fairground burger.  This is the key point that 95% of eateries never seem to understand. 
Make a decent ground beef or steak mince burger, as Fat Cat used to do for the some price,  and it makes you want to go back.
As it is, I am in no hurry to go back.  :(

So, a couple of night's in now I think, and look forward to Friday, when everywhere will surely be very busy.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 18, 2013, 08:13:24 am
Should have stayed in and played computer games!    :D
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Post by: Cambrian on December 18, 2013, 08:37:11 am
Had a rare trip to town for a meal on Monday and went to the Cottage Loaf following a friend's recommendation.  It was a lot better than I recall.  A good variety of food on both regular and Christmas menus and the staff are both polite and helpful.
Very pleasantly impressed with the food and will go again.
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2013, 08:38:12 am
Mr B's.  Not open yet, but heard the owner chatting to some staff members outside, and I must admit to being a little troubled by what I overheard.    Along the lines of... 'if they order X, just give them Y, they won't know the difference anyway'
It opens today. After all the effort they've put in to fit it out, it would be a shame if the food were not up to scratch.
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Post by: FatAndy on December 18, 2013, 08:43:27 am
but we had a really nice beer in there, and set off in search of foof.

Is that a typo or an admission of guilt  :o.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=foof (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=foof)
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Post by: Nemesis on December 18, 2013, 08:45:46 am
 OMG -- he had his missis with him !!!
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2013, 09:25:28 am
but we had a really nice beer in there, and set off in search of foof.

Is that a typo or an admission of guilt  :o.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=foof (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=foof)
:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
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Post by: Fester on December 18, 2013, 11:02:06 am
OMG -- he had his missis with him !!!

Almost always do Nem, although I get a sneaking feeling that Dave is trying to edge her out.  :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on December 18, 2013, 11:06:03 am
 :-X :o :o :o

OMG That's how rumours start !! _))*
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2013, 11:15:35 am
Kindly keep your fantasies to yourself, Mr Fester.  &shake&
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Post by: wrex on December 18, 2013, 11:36:06 am
Its been common knowledge that DaveR and Fester are an item,always out together sampling the local cuisine and local beer lol
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2013, 01:39:25 pm
Its been common knowledge that DaveR and Fester are an item,always out together sampling the local cuisine and local beer lol
It's funny you say that, as I haven't been out in the evening with Fester for many months. It might be old age, but a coffee in the afternoon is the most I manage these days.  :o
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Post by: systema on December 18, 2013, 02:15:44 pm
Mr B's.  Not open yet, but heard the owner chatting to some staff members outside, and I must admit to being a little troubled by what I overheard.    Along the lines of... 'if they order X, just give them Y, they won't know the difference anyway'
It opens today. After all the effort they've put in to fit it out, it would be a shame if the food were not up to scratch.

Went past about 1.30pm - tables outside but all shut up - the menu said Cafe and Bistro Menu  e.g.  Eggs Flamenca £6.95- Home baked ham and egg with chips and peas £8.95 -  Pork and Herb Sausages with gravy and buttery mash £7.95 - Beefburger with tomato and salad on bap with chips £9.95 - Pepper, mushrooms, cheese, tomato on a bap with chips £8.95.  Soup £4.50  All I can remember - will go and have a look tonight as that is not the menu he had on the window - probably change it for a Dinner Menu later.

Went to Bodnant Farm Shop this morning and had a cheese scone to die for - would go back just for that. Too early for lunch but will try it later in the week.
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Post by: wrex on December 18, 2013, 02:35:41 pm
Went to town today ,quite busy,many Welsh speakers,and thats when you realise Llandudno is a major shopping town for many and this is why it should be promoted at xmas by our beloved TC ,lets make a bit more of the lights,lets put some brass bands on,entertainment and make visitors and locals welcome to our town.
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Post by: wrex on December 18, 2013, 02:56:07 pm
Colin Flannigan tweeting that he has had two national retailers viewing this week,i do hope they are in Llandudno.
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Post by: wrex on December 18, 2013, 04:01:34 pm
Well i have had a reply from highways via fixmystreet,a study has been commissioned into the traffic flow,why spend money on a study,if they all spent 1 hour looking at the problems im sure they could work something out themselves.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 18, 2013, 04:54:53 pm
Well i have had a reply from highways via fixmystreet,a study has been commissioned into the traffic flow,why spend money on a study,if they all spent 1 hour looking at the problems im sure they could work something out themselves.

You may have noticed the large amount of twin rubber tubes stretched across the roads around the area.  They are traffic counters and monitor the amount of vehicles 24/7.  Info is fed to a computer and the whole lot can be analysed after a suitable monitoring period.   If you want to influence the results select your piece of road and spend an hour or so at your critical times and jump up and down on the tubes!   
 ££$
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2013, 05:51:43 pm
Really rough in town at the present. Very high winds and flash floods outside the usual places like Carlton Corner.
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Post by: Cordyline on December 18, 2013, 10:26:33 pm
Where is Carlton Corner ?  $walesflag$
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Post by: Yorkie on December 19, 2013, 07:57:58 am
Where is Carlton Corner ?  $walesflag$

Outside Carlton Pub!
Clock Roundabout near Halifax, opposite Hooson's which is no longer.   :D
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Post by: Cordyline on December 19, 2013, 10:43:08 am
Thanks Yorkie; I found it on Google earth

http://www.panoramio.com/user/5098981 (http://www.panoramio.com/user/5098981)
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Post by: DaveR on December 19, 2013, 11:30:50 am
Thanks Yorkie; I found it on Google earth

http://www.panoramio.com/user/5098981 (http://www.panoramio.com/user/5098981)
Some great photos on your Panoramio account, Cordyline.  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on December 19, 2013, 02:01:53 pm
Quite a dusting of snow on the Carneddau this afternoon.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 19, 2013, 03:25:36 pm
Not surprised-- just been out with the dog and it nearly froze my face off. ;D
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Post by: wrex on December 22, 2013, 08:10:12 am
After everything ive said i made the stupid mistake of going onto Mostyn Champneys yesterday,mygod there was a lot of roadrage on there,how every manager on there isnt giving their landlord pelters i don;t know,they must loose a lot of trade by the exiting problems on there.
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Post by: wrex on December 22, 2013, 08:18:35 am
Does anybody remember our new Major making an issue of the retail park about 6 months ago.Im sure i saw him on the front page saying its a joke trying to exit Mostyn Champneys.
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Post by: wrex on December 22, 2013, 08:28:01 am
Just e-mailed the town hall to see how the mayor is getting on with his traffic survey on Mostyn Champneys,i will let you know the response.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 22, 2013, 08:32:00 am
Shouldn't hold your breath waiting for it !
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Post by: wrex on December 22, 2013, 09:29:47 am
If Gary was in the papers trying to sort out the mess he will have to get back to me and let me know what CCBC highways are going to do,it has to be in his best interests.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 22, 2013, 01:04:52 pm
Just e-mailed the town hall to see how the mayor is getting on with his traffic survey on Mostyn Champneys,i will let you know the response.

You will get just as much action as if you had mailed Father Christmas!   
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Post by: wrex on December 22, 2013, 03:03:19 pm
Yorkie you must be positive,im sure it was front page of the Pioneer,mayor to approach CCBC highways to sort out the Mostyn Champneys traffic chaos,so now is the probllem.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 22, 2013, 04:00:49 pm
Yorkie you must be positive,im sure it was front page of the Pioneer,mayor to approach CCBC highways to sort out the Mostyn Champneys traffic chaos,so now is the probllem.

I am a positive person and am also somewhat of an optimist, but one has to be realistic occasionally!

Happy Christmas!    %0%

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Post by: wrex on December 22, 2013, 05:54:13 pm
Christmas for 2014 needs a big overhaul in Llandudno,evertthing needs thought ,commitment,pride and desire.
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Post by: Yorkie on December 22, 2013, 08:31:52 pm
Christmas for 2014 needs a big overhaul in Llandudno,evertthing needs thought ,commitment,pride and desire.

I think I'll get this one over first!    $walesflag$
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Post by: born2run on December 22, 2013, 08:32:17 pm
Just e-mailed the town hall to see how the mayor is getting on with his traffic survey on Mostyn Champneys,i will let you know the response.

Wasn't someone knocked over in Asda yesterday?
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Post by: Yorkie on December 22, 2013, 08:41:45 pm
Just e-mailed the town hall to see how the mayor is getting on with his traffic survey on Mostyn Champneys,i will let you know the response.

Wasn't someone knocked over in Asda yesterday?

Yes.  It was in the rush at the Easter Egg counter!    _))*
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Post by: born2run on December 22, 2013, 08:53:09 pm
 D)

very good! No somebody said on Facebook there was a lady down either collapsed or run over, hope she's ok
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Post by: Bigmurph on December 22, 2013, 09:39:44 pm
I can understand the moans about the traffic flow around the retail park, but if u want people to come to a town that was built for visitors u really can't complain I know Christmas is busier than any other time but in 2 weeks everyone will be complaining about how quiet the town is u can't win sometimes
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 23, 2013, 12:04:45 am
Just e-mailed the town hall to see how the mayor is getting on with his traffic survey on Mostyn Champneys,i will let you know the response.

I also hope the needs of pedestrians at both ends will not be overlooked.

As a pedestrian, I depend on those traffic lights stopping the traffic exiting onto Conway Road.

Furthermore, anyone under five foot tall walking along Conway Road past McDonalds and into town cannot see over the McDonalds hedge winding back along Charlotte Road.
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Post by: wrex on December 23, 2013, 07:24:57 am
Believe me we are not moaning about the volume of traffic,its the management of it,it does;nt exist.
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Post by: wrex on December 23, 2013, 08:30:03 am
Bri if you are concerned about the pedestrians then e-mail the papers ,CCBC highways and the mayor like i have for the motorists because if nobody bothers i assure you CCBC will do nothing but maybe its only me.
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Post by: wrex on December 23, 2013, 08:38:57 am
I was talking to my daughter last nite about where the locals go now for their nights out now,she said that obviously the locals still stay in town but the people fro surrounding towns now do head for Bangor and now Rhyl has a few new nightclubs and has started to win back the young ones,pity for Llandudno and more worrying for our bars trying to survive,but until somebody see;s fit to invest our nite life has gone.
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Post by: DaveR on December 23, 2013, 09:25:31 am
It doesn't look like there is any interest in someone taking on the old Boulevard nightclub building.

I was in Bangor yesterday and there are two closed bars/clubs at the bottom end of the high street. The company that owns the Varsity bar up by Wetherspoons went bust lately.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/varsity-blues---bar-chain-6264646 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/varsity-blues---bar-chain-6264646)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on December 23, 2013, 11:21:00 am
Bri if you are concerned about the pedestrians then e-mail the papers ,CCBC highways and the mayor like i have for the motorists because if nobody bothers i assure you CCBC will do nothing but maybe its only me.


wrex, I have always shared your view about both exits from Mostyn Champneys ever since you first raised the issue a few years ago.

As some councillors and many of the local press read this forum on a daily basis, I simply wished to feed back my observations as a pedestrian often using that route on the pavement past McDonalds.

At present, it is not problem for pedestrians outside McDonalds but I believe it would become a problem for them if the traffic lights were removed.
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Post by: wrex on December 23, 2013, 02:19:44 pm
Bri that just goes to show how it needs two brains as i did;nt even think about how pedestrians might cross if we took away the exit lights,i suppose if we left the exit lights just as a crossing lights that would work.
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Post by: Blongb on December 23, 2013, 03:04:30 pm
I was talking to my daughter last nite about where the locals go now for their nights out now,she said that obviously the locals still stay in town but the people fro surrounding towns now do head for Bangor and now Rhyl has a few new nightclubs and has started to win back the young ones,pity for Llandudno and more worrying for our bars trying to survive,but until somebody see;s fit to invest our nite life has gone.

Great pity CCBC / Police saw fit to close the lower half of upper Mostyn Street on what was potentially one of the most lucrative Saturday nights of the year. No matter how well intentioned the drink drive accident re-enactment was, it played havoc with local trade.
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Post by: Dave on December 23, 2013, 05:58:27 pm
As most of the favoured bars are in the lower part of Upper Mostyn St it wasn't such a bad idea was it ?
Not very difficult to find alternative routes, makes a pedestrian zone where there is the likely hood of drunken youth stumbling in to the road and after all, patrons of local businesses would probably not be needing their cars and parking spaces there anyway.
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Post by: Cat Stevens on December 23, 2013, 06:10:29 pm
Hi Dave R
I arranged to meet friends in the Halfway House in Y Felinheli (Bangor) this lunchtime only to discover upon arrival the pub to be boarded up and closed down.
So we changed our venue to the Antelope at Menai Bridge only to find the business being run be the receivers.
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Post by: DaveR on December 23, 2013, 06:57:12 pm
Hi Dave R
I arranged to meet friends in the Halfway House in Y Felinheli (Bangor) this lunchtime only to discover upon arrival the pub to be boarded up and closed down.
So we changed our venue to the Antelope at Menai Bridge only to find the business being run be the receivers.
Sad times for the Licenced trade.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 23, 2013, 08:29:31 pm
It's up to the individual businesses to attract their customers and all too often they don't make the effort and fail as a result.
I can quote lots of examples of lack of effort and due care to customers from the leisure industry locally but only last week I was in the 147 Club to watch the football. This bar is typical of those who just take the money and don't reinvest and don't provide the service they should. The tables remained uncleaned from one customer to the next, if you stand on the carpet near the bar your feet stick to it, and the toilets are evil.

Believe it or not some customers were actually ordering food too !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 24, 2013, 09:45:59 am
A phenomenal hailstorm just passed over Llandudno - it went so dark that the streetlights came on outside!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 24, 2013, 10:00:41 am
It's up to the individual businesses to attract their customers and all too often they don't make the effort and fail as a result.
That's very true, sadly. Some businesses seem to think they are entitled to the customers' money and don't need to put any work in to get it.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 24, 2013, 10:41:12 am
A phenomenal hailstorm just passed over Llandudno - it went so dark that the streetlights came on outside!

Did I imagine it , or did we get lightening during that storm? We were hoovering under beds at the time, so I could have been mistaken !
Just been down to the prom and there are quite a few patches of hail left in corners, much to the dog's delight, sand patches and hail patches-- all his Christmases have come at once !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 24, 2013, 11:15:18 am
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Did I imagine it , or did we get lightening during that storm?

Yes - two big strikes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on December 24, 2013, 03:34:42 pm
A phenomenal hailstorm just passed over Llandudno - it went so dark that the streetlights came on outside!

Did I imagine it , or did we get lightening during that storm? We were hoovering under beds at the time, so I could have been mistaken !
Just been down to the prom and there are quite a few patches of hail left in corners, much to the dog's delight, sand patches and hail patches-- all his Christmases have come at once !
Both of you hoovering under the bed together !! Is that what you call it. I know its Christmas but this is a respectable blog  :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 25, 2013, 09:00:56 am
Hate to disappoint you, but the space under a bed is only just big enough to get a hoover into -- that's why two pairs of hands are needed.

Did the lightning strikes come from down the road--???????? :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 26, 2013, 09:18:54 am
What time is the dip please anybody.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 26, 2013, 09:28:42 am
11.30am in Llandudno so you still have plenty of time to get ready.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 26, 2013, 09:34:38 am
Cheers Bri,you say plenty of time as if you think i am entering the water,not a chance.Thanks
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2013, 12:02:53 pm
Taken today just befor noon.
All this left from the road closure in Upper Mostyn Street since Saturday.
What a mess for all the visitors to see !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 26, 2013, 12:22:14 pm
In reply to Dave's about a pub having a sticky carpet. Believe it or not a very old established late night drinking hole in Rhyl in the middle 1990s was universally known by the name of "sticky carpet" and over time it got shortened to "Stickys". It's proper name was the nightclub section of the Morville Hotel. I think they even became rather proud of the name. At least everyone knew where they meant
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tosh on December 26, 2013, 04:24:12 pm
Taken today just befor noon.
All this left from the road closure in Upper Mostyn Street since Saturday.
What a mess for all the visitors to see !

Isn't that just outside the boy Lyon's sportswear shop?
He should speak to mummy about it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 27, 2013, 08:48:54 am
Yes it is/or was. All over the place this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 27, 2013, 10:01:00 am
Little walk along Deganwy prom this morning ,its going too cost us a little fortune to put that back together.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 27, 2013, 10:37:13 am
Just had a look at the xmas parade on youtube,i know there was a small steam engine but it looks  like there was no main attraction,no money spent ,there used to be reindeer or trains and cars lite up,there seemed to be no marching band besides 7 scouts,i believe Cll Bertola will be very proud of the fact he has spent nothing when he reports back to the town council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 27, 2013, 01:07:46 pm
Vicky Entwistle handed £50 parking fine at Venue Cymru


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/vicky-entwistle-handed-50-parking-6446189 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/vicky-entwistle-handed-50-parking-6446189)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on December 27, 2013, 02:16:21 pm
Just walked at the back of the Clarence Hotel and the fencing is down - looks like a car could have taken it down but suppose it will have to be the wind.

We went to the Christmas Parade and you could say we were disappointed with what we saw.

Brought our son back to Llandudno with us the other evening and as we drove through town he said - don't they do Christmas in Llandudno. Drove through St Asaph yesterday and their lights are quite pretty - puts Llandudno's to shame.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 27, 2013, 03:49:36 pm
Very true Systema,problem is nobody cares in Llandudno so nothing will ever change.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 27, 2013, 05:09:58 pm
Vicky Entwistle handed £50 parking fine at Venue Cymru


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/vicky-entwistle-handed-50-parking-6446189 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/vicky-entwistle-handed-50-parking-6446189)
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/Rioja_1/Parking3.jpg) (http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Rioja_1/media/Parking3.jpg.html)

I got booked a few years back for something similar but I appealed and the ticket was withdrawn.
I suppose I had a sound excuse that a passenger couldn't get out of the car in that spot ( outside Weatherspoons)until I pulled forward and reversed back in at an angle, hence the position of the car tyre. I suppose in a car park full of bays you should park within the lines to maximise the spaces available although I do think it's annoying that you get charged to go to the theatre when you have paid a small fortune for the tickets anyway.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 27, 2013, 05:50:04 pm
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in a car park full of bays you should park within the lines to maximise the spaces available although

The problem in the UK is that there's no thought given to car park design whatsoever. For a start, the bays are almost always too narrow for a lot of today's large cars and off-roaders. The bays are also always at right angles to the traffic flow, instead of sloping, which would make it a lot quicker, easier and simpler for people to park. Single lines are also always used, instead of the double-case line that the US use in their car parks, given that many of their drivers are even worse than ours.

But the sloping or slanted system has been shown to be the most effective design, yet we don't even consider it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on December 27, 2013, 05:57:23 pm
We tried to park downstairs in the Car Park at Morrison's in Colwyn Bay - what a nightmare, gave up and went to Asda - never been in a car park where the bays are so narrow and the turning space so small.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 27, 2013, 06:14:51 pm
Car parks have annoyed me for years! Spaces far too narrow so I always park in an end space far away to prevent car doors banging in to my car! An even bigger problem if I'm in my Jaguar, the spaces are often too short as well as too narrow! I never park near anything with kid seats in the back either, asking for trouble that is!  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Huw Pritchard on December 27, 2013, 07:51:50 pm
It's up to the individual businesses to attract their customers and all too often they don't make the effort and fail as a result.
I can quote lots of examples of lack of effort and due care to customers from the leisure industry locally but only last week I was in the 147 Club to watch the football. This bar is typical of those who just take the money and don't reinvest and don't provide the service they should. The tables remained uncleaned from one customer to the next, if you stand on the carpet near the bar your feet stick to it, and the toilets are evil.

Believe it or not some customers were actually ordering food too !

On the other hand, every time I've been to the Albion in Conwy (most recently Christmas Day mid-day) it's been busy and with an excellent atmosphere. All the grants, rate reductions, parking schemes in the world won't get repeat custom to a business if the product or service is poor.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 27, 2013, 11:18:28 pm
Places like the London priced themselves out of the market years ago,not many go there anymore,food is a big thing for others,the Snowden is now one of the best,good ale nice atmosphere.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 27, 2013, 11:20:23 pm
We tried to park downstairs in the Car Park at Morrison's in Colwyn Bay - what a nightmare, gave up and went to Asda - never been in a car park where the bays are so narrow and the turning space so small.

My wife parked her car there about two years ago and a woman driver drove into it and caused over £300.00 worth of damage and then drove off without leaving any details.  An anonymous person wrote down her Reg No and it was caught on CCTV but the woman denied the offence and the Police did not prosecute her so she got away with it.     :rage:
However I got her address from the DVLA and by coincidence her insurance company was the same as mine and they paid out without me making a claim.     
I expect her insurance premiums will have gone up as I requested that they put my documented letter on her file.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 28, 2013, 07:52:59 am
Car parks have annoyed me for years! Spaces far too narrow so I always park in an end space far away to prevent car doors banging in to my car! An even bigger problem if I'm in my Jaguar, the spaces are often too short as well as too narrow! I never park near anything with kid seats in the back either, asking for trouble that is!  &shake&

Here are the requirements.  Take a measuring tape with you in the car and if booked measure the space.  I have seen lots of FPN's cancelled this way.

10. The following are standard space requirements of some typical vehicles. These may be used as basic minimum reference values but different layouts such as parallel, herringbone and in-line, have slightly different overall space requirements and detailed layout of parking spaces will be site specific.
2.4 metres x 4.8 metres Cars
2.4 metres x 5.5 metres Light Vans
3.5 metres x 14.0 metres Rigid
3.5 metres x 18.5 metres Artic
3.5 metres x 14.0 metres Coaches

Hope this helps!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 28, 2013, 01:05:00 pm
We tried to park downstairs in the Car Park at Morrison's in Colwyn Bay - what a nightmare, gave up and went to Asda - never been in a car park where the bays are so narrow and the turning space so small.

I hate those underground car parks after having had a nasty episode in one years ago, someone tried to get into the passenger seat of my car, just as I was about to drive off. LuckilyI managed to put my foot down and leave him standing.
ME I agree about Jags and short spaces. I had a Daimler Jag during the days of the old Asda and used to have to park my bonnet into the bushes to be able to use the boot without being swiped off my feet by someone driving past.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 28, 2013, 01:13:36 pm
i HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MY SMART CAR OR MY  ROBIN RELIANT.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 28, 2013, 01:24:51 pm
i HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MY SMART CAR OR MY  ROBIN RELIANT.

Loved my Smart Car !! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: 1_rob_1 on December 28, 2013, 09:13:24 pm
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Places like the London priced themselves out of the market years ago,not many go there anymore,food is a big thing for others,the Snowden nice atmosphere.

I agree. In the London: The drink prices have been expensive for a while. Ales £3.50 ish & the food quality has gone down.
Its nice to see that the Snowdon is keeping its prices competitive & is v. friendly & has a great atmosphere.
I always frequent the Snowdon when in Llandudno & love the place.

Wrex
 As it seems you frequent the Snowdon & may know the manager, please let him know that a lot of the customers that sit in the lounge (myself included) have a prob with the wooden strip backrests on the seats in that area, which are VERY uncomfortable. (cant sit back & relax)
I  always visit the Snowdon, but if these seats are the only ones available, I do not stay, as may other clientèle.
If you spend the FULL evening there & have to sit on there seats you will know what I mean.
The landlord may be missing out on custom due to this.
Hope you will pass this on & the landlord will sort this. (mimimal effort - customer comfort- 0ish expense - more custom/profit). Makes sense??
Let me know how you get on. :-)

 

Rob
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 29, 2013, 01:26:11 pm
It's up to the individual businesses to attract their customers and all too often they don't make the effort and fail as a result.
I can quote lots of examples of lack of effort and due care to customers from the leisure industry locally but only last week I was in the 147 Club to watch the football. This bar is typical of those who just take the money and don't reinvest and don't provide the service they should. The tables remained uncleaned from one customer to the next, if you stand on the carpet near the bar your feet stick to it, and the toilets are evil.

Believe it or not some customers were actually ordering food too !

On the other hand, every time I've been to the Albion in Conwy (most recently Christmas Day mid-day) it's been busy and with an excellent atmosphere. All the grants, rate reductions, parking schemes in the world won't get repeat custom to a business if the product or service is poor.

I have to disagree about The Albion.
The last time I went, it left a bad memory for me as I got hit with a parking ticket.
But, I thought I would give it another chance, and Mrs Fester and I popped in last week.

It was full of, (and smelled of) DOGS!
It is a soul-less and boring pub, full of pretentious folk reading a book, always alone, except the pre-requisite dog at their feet.
These folk take the odd sip of a half-pint of 'real ale' every 10 minutes or so.
I am sure they might spend about £1.28p in a 2 hour visit.  Plus it was pretty damned cold in there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 29, 2013, 01:33:26 pm
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full of pretentious folk reading a book

Were they all reading the same book, or did they have one each?   WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 29, 2013, 02:01:01 pm
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full of pretentious folk reading a book

Were they all reading the same book, or did they have one each?   WWW

They did not seem the sociable types, therefore.... one each
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llewelyn on December 30, 2013, 12:55:12 am
When did you go ? its usually good.  they do let dogs in. but it always clean. ok there are no drunks falling around the place or people swearing and shouting, but everyone has a chat and laugh, I am surprised by your comment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on December 30, 2013, 02:58:01 pm
but everyone has a chat and laugh, I am surprised by your comment.

I'm with you on this one Llewelyn. The wife and I have always enjoyed our visits to the Albion. Perhaps Fester caught the place on a bad day, it happens.
Having completed, and got the Tee-Shirt, for the Conwy Real Ale Trail, the Liverpool Arms, the Castle Hotel, Ye Old Mail Coach and the Albion, are in my opinion, the only pubs in Conwy worth using.  Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 30, 2013, 05:29:28 pm
I pop in the Liverpool Arms and Castle Hotel quite often, and I love the very different atmosphere in both of those places.
However, the Albion has no atmosphere, (my opinion, that's all)

Llew, if I wanted people falling about, swearing etc, I would be in the Town House wouldn't I?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 31, 2013, 05:27:50 pm
Happy new year too everybody,here;s too a moaning 2014 x
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 06, 2014, 11:25:08 am
Massive thunderclap over Llandudno at about 10.50am. Went on for what felt like ages.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 06, 2014, 11:47:52 am
Yes, we had one big flash followed by the thunderclap here, unusual for January!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 06, 2014, 12:52:50 pm
Yes, we had one big flash followed by the thunderclap here, unusual for January!

God is displeased with us?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2014, 02:44:12 am
It just crossed over into January 8th when I took this pic on my phone.

Have CCBC not heard about the bad luck this can bring?    Can we take any more bad luck?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 08, 2014, 01:39:46 pm
Work as started on building the steel frame for the extension at the rear of the Clarence Hotel Travelodge redevelopment project. Photo courtesy of Nigel Roberts Newsagents::
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2014, 02:31:28 pm
I walked past there last night, and what a shock I got when I saw those new apartments which have sprung up behind Nigel's, on the site of the old market hall.

I never knew they were being built, and they look quite impressive.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 11, 2014, 09:19:38 am
We were speaking yesterday to someone who had had a conversation with one of the contractors working on the Clarence.

The projected finishing date for them is May 2015.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 13, 2014, 09:38:49 am
The queen has a new hat ! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 13, 2014, 10:15:33 am
Looking at the state of her cloak i think she needs a re-stain and quick.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 13, 2014, 10:42:19 am
The Mad Hatter is looking equally shabby. It's Ok putting all these things in place, but they need upkeep !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 13, 2014, 12:27:57 pm
I have half a tin of pink left.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2014, 02:01:04 pm
The Mad Hatter is looking equally shabby. It's Ok putting all these things in place, but they need upkeep !

The White Rabbit is splitting his sides!   _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 13, 2014, 05:21:44 pm
 _))* someone should treat them!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2014, 05:22:08 pm
I have half a tin of pink left.
From when you were painting Fester's house, I imagine?  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 13, 2014, 07:02:07 pm
_))* someone should treat them!  :laugh:

Yeh, good idea!  Give them a day out at the seaside!    _))*
They might get a tan!   L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 13, 2014, 09:17:09 pm
Reckon that might dull the teeth on that cat? :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 14, 2014, 12:26:07 pm
Reckon that might dull the teeth on that cat? :twoface:

It struck me that this is a phrase which has most likely never been used before, in the history of mankind.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 14, 2014, 01:07:47 pm
 _))* _))* _))*

I aim to please sir ! :twoface: :twoface: :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on January 14, 2014, 02:23:04 pm
Reckon that might dull the teeth on that cat? :twoface:

It struck me that this is a phrase which has most likely never been used before, in the history of mankind.

There's a line in Much Ado About Nothing where Dogberry quips to Don Pedro "Forsooth good sir, for by thine actions thou hast dulled the teeth of yonder pussy".
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 14, 2014, 03:14:18 pm
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There's a line in Much Ado About Nothing where Dogberry quips to Don Pedro "Forsooth good sir, for by thine actions thou hast dulled the teeth of yonder pussy".

No, it's not from Much Ado and certainly not from Dogberry. I don't think it's even from Shakespeare, in fact, as Shakespeare didn't use "Dulled" as such. I'll see if I can determine its provenance from the books I have here. It's interesting, since the construction "thou hast" was only used once by Shakespeare (to my knowledge) and that was in Henry VIII. Shakespeare preferred the alternate "Hast thou" as it was considered more elegant.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 14, 2014, 04:35:36 pm
Has the town gone to sleep,very quiet for a new year,is there no sign of any new investment,The landlords of the Clarence must have at least one unit taken.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on January 15, 2014, 04:50:03 pm
Surely "Thou hast" denotes past tense, and "Hast thou" is enquiring if the action has occurred ?   ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 15, 2014, 06:13:35 pm
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Surely "Thou hast" denotes past tense, and "Hast thou" is enquiring if the action has occurred ?

The second was used in the interrogative to say much the same as the first, only more subtly.   "You have nicked my biscuit" as opposed to "Have you nicked my biscuit?"   ;D

I should add that there are several past tenses, and "Thou hast" and "Hast thou" are both examples of the same Perfect tense.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 15, 2014, 10:24:33 pm
I regret raising the original point.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on January 15, 2014, 10:28:57 pm
 _))*
I regret raising the original point.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 16, 2014, 07:39:05 am
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I regret raising the original point.

That's what forums are all about...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on January 16, 2014, 08:31:41 am
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Surely "Thou hast" denotes past tense, and "Hast thou" is enquiring if the action has occurred ?

The second was used in the interrogative to say much the same as the first, only more subtly.   "You have nicked my biscuit" as opposed to "Have you nicked my biscuit?"   ;D

I should add that there are several past tenses, and "Thou hast" and "Hast thou" are both examples of the same Perfect tense.

Searched the whole of my Shakespeare and cannot find any reference to people nicking biscuits, either in the past, present or the future.  However if they wish to nick biscuits, it is their prerogative to do so!   Much Ado About Nothing in my book.
 "I see a wall, now will  I to the chink, to spy and hear my Thisby's face." 
Whoever writes such nonsense doesn't deserve to be read.    _))*

P.s. I do know that this is Bottom's line from the play within a play of MSND!   What an ass!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 16, 2014, 09:29:56 am
I was about the say trust Yorkie to get to the bottom of things...


 WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 17, 2014, 06:59:22 pm
walking along maesdu road today,passing the rugby field 9 conwy council guys putting the set of posts back up and they all had a wagon each ,no wonder they havent got time to fix the slabs on mostyn st . :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 17, 2014, 08:29:55 pm
walking along maesdu road today,passing the rugby field 9 conwy council guys putting the set of posts back up and they all had a wagon each ,no wonder they havent got time to fix the slabs on mostyn st . :rage:

That's strange Norm,  CCBC informed me that they don't have the resources to fix the damage to my property or car, due to their admitted negligence.
Nor have they or their insurers contacted me as promised.

Therefore, I have resorted to Yorkie's method of redress.   It's a shame that it has to come to that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on January 17, 2014, 08:33:05 pm
walking along maesdu road today,passing the rugby field 9 conwy council guys putting the set of posts back up and they all had a wagon each ,no wonder they havent got time to fix the slabs on mostyn st . :rage:

Only 9  >>> . We were promised 10.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on January 17, 2014, 09:41:07 pm
Perhaps the guys at the field were not paviours and perhaps the RFC were paying or maybe their insurers.  Things are not always what they seem.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 17, 2014, 10:33:45 pm
the 10th guy turned up when they had nearly done ,in another van, i,m glad the posts are back up so i can watch the lads win tomorrow,BUT did it need all them guys ,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on January 18, 2014, 10:40:17 am
Looks to me as if the rugby has more people putting up posts than on the forum
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 18, 2014, 11:57:51 am
the 10th guy turned up when they had nearly done ,in another van, i,m glad the posts are back up so i can watch the lads win tomorrow,BUT did it need all them guys ,

If another five turned up they could have had a game against the local team.     ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 18, 2014, 12:01:32 pm
Looks to me as if the rugby has more people putting up posts than on the forum

I noticed that too Mike but it might be that a lot of the members are on holiday.  I know at least one who is.     ;D     

Hope you enjoy yourself there as this Winter is just wet and windy.  Roll on Summer      :golf:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on January 19, 2014, 04:52:45 pm
It's been quite a pleasant day today though.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 19, 2014, 05:04:41 pm
Took advantage of that and had a short trip down through the mountains to Porthmadoc, then Criccieth. Lovely down there, but quite a lot colder..also a lot of mist on the mountain tops and valley bottoms. At lunchtime we watched a strange storm obliterate Barmouth, then travel up the coast and turn inland missing us completely.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on January 19, 2014, 10:30:51 pm
May have passed you somewhere today  :)  - went to see the snow on Snowdon as we have not seen any for about 20 years as we are not usually in Europe in Winter.  Tried to park in Betws y Coed but not a parking space to be had so ended up in Anglesey and took advantage of the free coffee and newspaper in Waitrose.
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Post by: Ian on January 20, 2014, 08:42:37 am
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took advantage of the free coffee and newspaper in Waitrose.

..and who have very recently extyended their delivery area to the entire Conwy Valley and - I presume - the entire three towns area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2014, 08:58:06 am
May have passed you somewhere today  :)  - went to see the snow on Snowdon as we have not seen any for about 20 years as we are not usually in Europe in Winter.  Tried to park in Betws y Coed but not a parking space to be had so ended up in Anglesey and took advantage of the free coffee and newspaper in Waitrose.
Probably !
We went via the Crimea and back via the Aberglaslyn, Snowdon's summit was obliterated in mist when we passed, but parked in the National Parks car park in Betws about 2.30ish. Plenty of room there at that time. Busyish, but much busier than Porthmadoc which was dead. Sad to see so many closed down shops.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2014, 07:11:08 pm
Not the best publicity Llandudno could hope for in a national newspaper:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542840/Sweary-convent-nurse-locked-worker-remove-dead-body-complained-pensioner-pain-a.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542840/Sweary-convent-nurse-locked-worker-remove-dead-body-complained-pensioner-pain-a.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on January 24, 2014, 11:40:57 am
Here is the better side of Llandudno  -  Trip Advisor top 10 UK Destinations



http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/TravelersChoice-Destinations (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/TravelersChoice-Destinations)



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on January 27, 2014, 04:40:31 pm
Not sure if this has been uploaded elsewhere; but short video here for the 'refurbished' Augusta Apartments:

Augusta Apartments, Llandudno on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/85155863)
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Post by: DaveR on January 30, 2014, 08:59:47 am
The modern phone boxes at Gloddaeth Street (Volloms) and St Georges Place are being replaced today with 'heritage' K6 models, each fitted with a Payphone and an ATM.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339992/Britains-red-phone-boxes-converted-ATM-cash-machines.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339992/Britains-red-phone-boxes-converted-ATM-cash-machines.html)
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Post by: Fester on January 30, 2014, 05:24:28 pm
The modern phone boxes at Gloddaeth Street (Volloms) and St Georges Place are being replaced today with 'heritage' K6 models, each fitted with a Payphone and an ATM.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339992/Britains-red-phone-boxes-converted-ATM-cash-machines.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339992/Britains-red-phone-boxes-converted-ATM-cash-machines.html)

Excellent, and by the fact that all the operations are on the outside of the 'box', it will prevent them from becoming public toilets for late night revelers like the ones they are replacing!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on January 30, 2014, 06:42:12 pm
Good news but it's just a shame BT removed the K6s from town in the first place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 31, 2014, 09:26:50 am
Good news but it's just a shame BT removed the K6s from town in the first place.
Only a shame if you never actually had to use them! They were dirty, generally vandalised and they stank.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2014, 09:50:05 am
Very rough down at West Shore yesterday for the High Tide:
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Post by: jeanus44 on February 09, 2014, 11:38:02 am
What on earth are these massive rigs appearing in Llandudno Bay this last few days? I thought they had to be so many miles off shore!
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Post by: Mikethewatch on February 09, 2014, 12:02:08 pm
They will be sheltering from the weather
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Post by: Hugo on February 09, 2014, 12:05:12 pm
I haven't been to Llandudno recently so I didn't see them, but I can see some rigs working near the windmills off Colwyn Bay and they are massive too.
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Post by: Blongb on February 09, 2014, 12:33:49 pm
3 leg jack-up platforms, normal work platforms for shallow waters. The ones working on the wind-farm installation are actually quite small by industry standards. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 09, 2014, 12:56:19 pm
The rigs I can see are the same height as the windmills so the others must be absolutely massive.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 09, 2014, 01:33:05 pm
We ventured out earlier to watch the 10K Nick Beer running race.

It started from the War Memorial at noon and the runners ran round the Great Orme with the wind against them and back to the prom passing the Empire Hotel.

It finished outside Venue Cymru.

The winner from Eryri Harriers did it in less than 32 minutes and was 2 minutes ahead of another Eryri Harrier competitor.

Incredible really when you consider it took us nearly 20 minutes to walk along the prom from the War Memorial to Venue Cymru.

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: jeanus44 on February 09, 2014, 02:39:31 pm
Are these rigs permanent or just until they do the job they have to because the by The little Orme has his legs firmly planted in the seabed?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on February 09, 2014, 05:43:40 pm
The legs raise and lower so that the rig can be firm on the seabed when it is working, or to settle itself to ride out bad weather.   ZXZ
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Post by: Linda on February 09, 2014, 10:17:22 pm
We ventured out earlier to watch the 10K Nick Beer running race.

It started from the War Memorial at noon and the runners ran round the Great Orme with the wind against them and back to the prom passing the Empire Hotel.

It finished outside Venue Cymru.

The winner from Eryri Harriers did it in less than 32 minutes and was 2 minutes ahead of another Eryri Harrier competitor.

Incredible really when you consider it took us nearly 20 minutes to walk along the prom from the War Memorial to Venue Cymru.

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Happy for my Son in Law ,his first time in 54 mins, spurred him on now to compete more.Not bad as they had all been ill this week. Well done to him and all the others braving the wind... <:<:<:<
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Post by: MarkJ on February 10, 2014, 09:22:27 am
The wind yesterday made it a really tough race, was almost blown off my feet around by the Rest and be Thankful. None the less I was pleased with my time of 48 1/2mins and well done to Rob Samuel for winning for the second year running!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 10, 2014, 10:03:36 am
Huge wind turbine ship forced to shelter close to North Wales coast

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/huge-wind-turbine-ship-forced-6689581 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/huge-wind-turbine-ship-forced-6689581)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on February 10, 2014, 09:20:41 pm
Conwy County and Llandudno in particular got a nice bit of free advertising courtesy of Griff Rhys-Jones on ITV tonight.  He seemed to like everything but the offshore windfarm, what's wrong with the man  8).

https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/a-great-welsh-adventure-with-griff-rhys-jones (https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/a-great-welsh-adventure-with-griff-rhys-jones)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 10, 2014, 11:18:18 pm
Indeed Andy,  he made a very big point of showing all viewers how he 'turned his back' physically on the wind farm.
Sadly prospective visitors wil remember that.

It was a great little programme, good for the whole area.... a shame about the abomination in the bay.

He never did buy his sought after Welsh-Dresser did he?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on February 11, 2014, 08:08:57 am

He never did buy his sought after Welsh-Dresser did he?

He will in the final episode, got to keep you interested!    :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 11, 2014, 03:47:12 pm
Right now??    A snow and sleet blizzard is threatening to interrupt my beer with Dave R!     ZXZ


....... followed by HAIL !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on February 11, 2014, 03:53:10 pm
Right now??    A snow and sleet blizzard is threatening to interrupt my beer with Dave R!     ZXZ


....... followed by HAIL !!

Why don't you 2 move indoors where it's warm and dry?  Z**  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 11, 2014, 04:07:36 pm
Right now??    A snow and sleet blizzard is threatening to interrupt my beer with Dave R!     ZXZ


....... followed by HAIL !!

Good I don't want you drunk and playing crap darts like last week when I wasn't there to inspire you  Z**
The Detonator is back tonight!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 12, 2014, 11:33:37 am
Thinking of building an ark--- any takers? ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 12, 2014, 01:39:00 pm
Just don't put a sail on it.

Weather weird at the moment. Hail and blue skies with bright sunshine simultaneously. Combined with strong winds. The term "smiling assassin" springs to mind.

Building up to 65 + mph force winds forecast between 6 and 9 tonight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 12, 2014, 02:05:34 pm
Good expression-- think if I put a sail on it I might end up like Noah-- on top of a mountain ! _))*
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Post by: Ian on February 12, 2014, 03:09:00 pm
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Weather weird at the moment.

Met office has issued a rare Red warning for the area for high winds.  Most schools in Anglesey and Bangor have shut and gusts might exceed 100mph this afternoon and evening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 12, 2014, 06:54:30 pm
When I came into Llandudno today from Colwyn Bay about 4.00 pm today and the traffic situation was chaotic.     There were minor road works near Bryn Y Bia Road and traffic lights had been installed.
The problem was that the lights facing the traffic coming from Colwyn Bay were permanently on red and the other ones were not on at all so no one knew who had the right of way!       :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on February 12, 2014, 07:09:22 pm
Hope your keeping safe in the Heights Hugo, believe King's Rd closed due to fallen tree and diesel spill.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 12, 2014, 07:24:14 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-weather-45000-homes-6702021 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-weather-45000-homes-6702021)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 13, 2014, 03:34:27 pm
From next Monday, Arriva will be changing the route and times of their number 25 service and introducing a new number 26.

However, someone has already changed the Bus Timetable outside Greggs in Llandudno.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 13, 2014, 04:51:40 pm
Hope your keeping safe in the Heights Hugo, believe King's Rd closed due to fallen tree and diesel spill.

Thanks Jack, we had no damage thank goodness but one house in Troon Way had a lot of damage to it's roof and the wind is picking up here again so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 16, 2014, 11:33:53 am
Just had a nice walk down the pier,beautiful and very busy,some nice pictures and pottery in the stalls.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 16, 2014, 07:37:43 pm
Just had a nice walk down the pier,beautiful and very busy,some nice pictures and pottery in the stalls.

Thought you might have said hello??  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 16, 2014, 07:43:15 pm
I see the newly completed flats above what was once Harmony House in St. Georges Place have been repossessed by Mostyn Estates, according to a notice pasted on the door.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 16, 2014, 08:59:17 pm
Fester this was 10 30 and there was no sign of you,i did comment to my better half that you maybe in Indulgence having a breakfast lol :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on February 16, 2014, 09:03:07 pm
more like still in bed lol
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 16, 2014, 09:15:55 pm
He was certainly in by 12.30pm because he was inundated with customers when we passed.  D)
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Post by: Fester on February 16, 2014, 09:46:35 pm
I would very much like to be 'inundated' with customers Bri,  but today was good to be honest.

OK, it's time to come clean, you were ALL correct lads!
I phoned the pier to check it was open at 10am... from my bed!   Then, nipped swiftly into Cafe Indulgence for a coffee, (Mrs F had made my sandwiches) .. and I opened up around 10.45am.

I can't have any secrets in this town can I?   :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: hollins on February 17, 2014, 04:08:33 pm
Nice rainbow, shame about the unmentionables.
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Post by: wrex on February 17, 2014, 04:52:10 pm
Fester you are a star.
 Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 17, 2014, 06:30:46 pm
Llandudno Promenade was naturally busy yesterday.

However, we did see a horse on the prom and it left us wondering whether or not owners have to carry poop bags for horses in the same way owners have to do so for dogs.

Any views?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on February 17, 2014, 06:45:36 pm
Horses are not meat eaters so I would let them go anywhere apart from the paddling pool in Llandudno. The Queen has somebody following the Household Cavalry to put the proceeds on  the garden at Buck House.

The council have not put up any 'No Horses' signs that I have seen and that would also have an effect on the donkeys.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on February 17, 2014, 07:27:00 pm
yes and walking along today i came across that load of muck right in the middle of the prom , if that had been a dog, the owner would have been fined.
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Post by: Ian on February 17, 2014, 07:48:13 pm
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yes and walking along today i came across that load of muck right in the middle of the prom , if that had been a dog, the owner would have been fined.

Dog mess is a great deal more unpleasant and far more dangerous than horse droppings. Dog faeces carry parasites which can cause blindness in children, which is one reason there are restrictions on dog owners. Horse manure, On the other hand , is rather useful and it's not uncommon to see folk taking their wheelbarrows out to collect it for their gardens.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 17, 2014, 08:44:47 pm
My Grandfather used to get horse manure for his rhubarb, personally I prefer custard!  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on February 18, 2014, 01:08:15 pm
Man arrested after Llandudno house fire
Published date: 18 February 2014 | Published by: Mike Williams


A MAN has been arrested after a house fire in Llandudno.

Emergency services were called to the blaze on Trinity Avenue just before 1am today (Tuesday).

The man was arrested on suspicion of arson with intent to endanger life and was detained for questioning by North Wales Police.

Firefighters are still investigating the cause of the fire.

A police spokesperson said: “Anyone who may have witnessed the incident or who may have seen someone acting suspiciously in the area is asked to call CID in St Asaph on 101.

“Alternatively call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111.”

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/131117/man-arrested-after-llandudno-house-fire.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/131117/man-arrested-after-llandudno-house-fire.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on February 18, 2014, 03:46:49 pm
lovely sight off the pier this morning ,watching dolphins going towards the little orme and i never had the chance to film them
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on February 19, 2014, 01:15:17 am
lovely sight off the pier this morning ,watching dolphins going towards the little orme and i never had the chance to film them

They would have been harbour porpoise not dolphins, but still a gorgeous sight :) I love watching them go by - saw about 7 or 8 together last year heading towards anglesey, usually just spot a couple together so seeing so many at once was fab :) i'm always torn between admiring them or trying desperately to get them in my camera screen (i usually miss!)

(very very rare if not never to see dolphins off the north wales coast, sightings are usally mid wales coast and usually in the hot weather. Porpoise have smaller fins and don't leave the water to do a full jump like a dolphin would - they just kind of show their back at the jump. i love em tho!)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on February 19, 2014, 08:00:23 am
From Councillor Mike Priestley's twitter feed this morning:

"Good news for Llandudno, just received a marine consent to remove the rock from "kiddies Corner" on the north Shore. Creating a beach."

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 23, 2014, 09:05:52 am
Where are we heading, as i have already mentioned we seem to be losing shops rather than gaining and as we are out of this ressesion it should be the other way.Do we ever hear of any councillors trying to get the empty shops cleaned up,trying to get CCBC acting on the Arena,how about them painting the Alice statues in their spare time i will supply a dust sheet,joking apart things at the moment don;t seem to be ressectionless.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 23, 2014, 12:15:21 pm
Police have closed the top end of North Parade, from the roundabout with Church Walks because of slates falling from the Grand Hotel's roof.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 23, 2014, 01:14:09 pm
The Grand have apparently asked the Pier if they can erect a load of scaffolding on the Pier property in order to tackle this roof damage problem.
However, it's not as simple as that.... as access to the Pier itself will be badly affected apparently, and discussions are ongoing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on February 23, 2014, 02:23:49 pm
Police have cordoned off St John''s Church in Mostyn Street, besides Marks & Spencer, due to the risk from loose roof tiles.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on February 23, 2014, 05:12:19 pm
Yes, Holy Trinity's roof was doing a 'bit of creaking' this morning!!
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Post by: Barney Baker on February 23, 2014, 07:24:17 pm
 >>>update on the St Johns Church, it wasn't tiles that is the problem it is one of the little spire's that is threatening to come crashing down it was moving quite a lot in the wind they had cordoned the front of the church off but then removed them funny considering the structure in question is 2 tons and 10 feet in height I for one will walking on the opposite side of the road from now until they get it sorted
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 23, 2014, 08:55:13 pm
Where is the Aerial Ladder Platform when Llandudno needs it?
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Post by: wrex on February 23, 2014, 09:56:32 pm
Rhyl.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 24, 2014, 08:33:00 am
Large piece of metal railing flapping away yesterday in the car-park behind Wetherspoons. It has been cordoned off.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 25, 2014, 07:27:06 am
Spring is in the air,the flowers are coming out,we have a new ice cream parlour,two eyesore hotels being done up and the new beach promised,positive.
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Post by: llewelyn on February 27, 2014, 04:37:35 pm
The Alexandra Hotel on TV this afternoon Channel 4, a repeat of them coming last on Four In A Bed  . And tonight Channel 5.  9 pm. The Hotel Inspector. hope things have improved since the last program.  :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 02, 2014, 08:28:47 am
For anyone who missed The Hotel Inspector featuring the Alexandra Hotel then it is being repeated this morning at 11.50am on Channel 5.
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Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2014, 08:56:48 am
This news item appeared a couple of days ago, I'm pleased that lobbying from Forum members has helped to raise awareness of this problem. A cynical person might ask where the money allocated to pavement maintenance has been spent in previous years, being I can think of no major paving stone renewal that has taken place in the last 10 years, with the exception of the Lottery funded work around Prince Edward Square. I also recall that a large section of stone paving along the Prom was ripped up and replaced by tarmac about 2 years ago - so much for the Conservation Area!

Cracked and dangerous town centre pavements could cost up to £3m to replace, it has been revealed.

But a Conwy County Council cabinet member has taken the first step towards getting Llandudno’s shattered footways repaired.

Cllr Mike Priestley has appointed a working group of officers from various departments to come up with a strategy to remedy the problem.

He said: “We’re looking at ways of improving the streetscape, and one of the priorities has to be the maintenance and reinstatement of pavements.”

But he stressed that finding the necessary funding wouldn’t be easy.

He explained: “We have £568,000 in the budget to maintain footways throughout the county, and for 2014/15 we are able to draw down additional funding of £415,000, but that can’t all be spent on one project.

“At this stage we are preparing a report which will look at a variety of issues, including funding.

“It may well be that we can attract some money from the European Union and the Welsh Government .

“The cost of the project is currently estimated at between £2m-£3m but that may well change depending on the type of materials used and any additional works that may be required.

“We will be looking at different types of paving that are available and what would best fit in a heritage town like Llandudno. It’s important that any work carried out is of good quality.”

He said cost implications would probably mean that any work would have to be phased over a period of time.

And he pointed out that responsibility for maintaining sections of the town centre pavements lay with owners of properties fronting them.

“Business owners are responsible for sections of pavement that fall within the curtilage of that property,” he added.

Once an initial report has been prepared the county council will then consult with Llandudno Town Council, land owners Mostyn Estates, the owners of individual businesses and the Chamber of Trade to see if a partnership approach can be established.

Llandudno mayor Garry Burchett said the issue of the damaged pavements was one that had been worrying the town council for several years.

“I’m sure I speak on behalf of the town council when I say wWe welcome this plan to deal with the damaged pavements which is long overdue. It is a big step forward. The town council has appointed its own working party to look at the town’s street scene and to make recommendations for improvements, and the pavements are at the top of its list of concerns. I’m sure the town council will do what it can to help take this project forward.”

And business owner Nigel Roberts, who has a newsagents and gift shop in Gloddaeth Street, was supportive of the project, but said some businesses may have difficulty finding the funds to contribute to repairing pavements outside their properties.

“If the council is planning to  upgrade the pavements we will end up with some businesses willing to contribute, and others for reasons of their own not willing. We have to be careful that any scheme will not end up going round in circles, especially as we are still very much in somewhat lean times.”


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/3m-needed-replace-cracked-dangerous-6754323 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/3m-needed-replace-cracked-dangerous-6754323)
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Post by: mull on March 05, 2014, 10:04:00 am
My son who works at Highway Maintenance in Hampshire has recently completed relaying  paving in a town square that had suffered from many broken slabs.
His observation was that the worst damage had occurred outside banks and was due to heavy security vans running over the paving slabs.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2014, 10:21:23 am
My son who works at Highway Maintenance in Hampshire has recently completed relaying  paving in a town square that had suffered from many broken slabs.
His observation was that the worst damage had occurred outside banks and was due to heavy security vans running over the paving slabs.
Yes, lorries pulling on to the pavements as they manoeuvre or make deliveries is certainly a major culprit. I've suggested to Cllr. Priestley that reinforced paving slabs be used in vulnerable areas close to the kerb.
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Post by: wrex on March 06, 2014, 07:08:37 am
Upper Mostyn st is down for resurfacing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2014, 09:06:40 am
I see Mostyn Champneys Retail Park is holding a Festival of Litter  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 06, 2014, 09:16:12 am
Mostyn Champneys does not appear to be actively managed onsite whereas Parc Llandudno and Asda car park are.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2014, 09:21:37 am
Mostyn Champneys does not appear to be actively managed onsite whereas Parc Llandudno and Asda car park are.
I have emailed them and asked for it to be tidied up.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2014, 09:30:31 am
Mention the word 'rat' and the job's done !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 10, 2014, 09:28:35 am
One thing that we havent really discussed on here is the current Planning Application for the Alice Trail around Llandudno. This proposes to install '19 aluminium statues, most standing over 4ft /1.2 metres tall', around the town, together with 55 brass pawprints. Personally, I think the town's supposed links with Alice are vague at best and the only tangible remains (Penmorfa) were demolished a few years ago. As such, I'm not really in favour - cant we put all this money towards new pavements along Mostyn St instead?

I reproduce below an email from the Llandudno Hospitality Association on the matter, what does everyone else think?


There is a proposal to locate up to 19  aluminium statues, most standing over 4ft /1.2 metres tall.
They will be bronze coloured and more akin to a Disney type character than the original Alice white rabbit.
The statutes will carry a bar code which will link to an AP on a mobile telephone.
They will be located within the Conservation Area of Llandudno.

- Alice Trail Ltd is currently funded from public money that is our money!
 
Conwy County Borough Council 65K
Visit Wales  80K
Llandudno Town Council  7K
CYFENTER 43K

Alice Trail Ltd are already drawing down salaries from these funds.

LHA is not against the establishment of a digital trail featuring our town's link with Alice in Wonderland.

LHA has objected to this proposal on the following grounds;
-Cumulative impact within the street scene of Llandudno
-No sample materials or replica statue to be revealed to members of the CCBC Planning Committee prior to final decision making on March 12th
-19 statues adding to the street furniture in Llandudno are not necessary to create a digital trail. Other options can be explored.
-no guarantees regarding funding ongoing maintenance and repairs
- no guarantees of a sustained income if businesses do not pay annual sponsorship of the statues

Exaggerated Claims being made by Supporters.

The Trail will attract thousands of tourists?
The Trail will provide a year round attraction?  Walking around our town through Nov to end of Feb calls for a robust tourist?
This Trail will not be all weather.

Alice Trail Ltd stress the income that tourism brings into Llandudno and the employment it generates. They  claim 600m a year  and 11K jobs.
Those figures are achieved and have been achieved without littering our elegant Victorian and Edwardian streets with inappropriate street furniture.These figures cannot guarantee that income.
The assertion  that the proposal will grow those figures is speculative.

Here in Llandudno it is clear that our Victorian and Edwardian town attracts visitors.
LLandudno has not fallen into a steep decline like other seaside towns across the UK but is not immune from that decline.
LIttering what is left of the elegance of the Victorian and Edwardian street scene endangers Llandudno's unique selling point(USP)
We should be calling upon CCBC to work in the spirit of the Conservation Act which is to protect, preserve and enhance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 10, 2014, 10:17:41 am
My feelings, the original White Rabbit Statue was great and so was Penmorfa, but beyond that the link with Alice is somewhat remote. This latest proposal sounds like a waste of money to me, but if we had a large indoor Alice attraction that could work, say in a rebuilt Pier Pavillion with many other things to bring in the visitors on a damp day?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 10, 2014, 10:37:46 am
Whilst it's true the council certainly tries to extol what are - at best - tenuous links with Alice, I think this trail could be very effective if done properly. I think it's worth capitalising on, anyway. It's not that it's going to have the effect of bringing bus loads of Alicephiles, anxiously scouring every square inch of the place, but more that it simply adds a touch of something special to the town in a way that even new paving stones don't quite manage.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 10, 2014, 11:59:32 am
Some of the greatest followers of Alice and her Adventures are the Japanese.   How extraordinary is that? 

We should have an Alice smiley on the Forum!
 :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andyCYD on March 10, 2014, 01:19:20 pm
I am no fan of the Alice theme, but it is clear that nowhere can stand still and keep doing the same things if they want to stay at the top (or avoid going into decline). If we don't go for Alice what is the alternative? If we stick with it we have to make sure it is done properly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 10, 2014, 04:59:19 pm
If we don't go for Alice what is the alternative? If we stick with it we have to make sure it is done properly.

To do it properly requires money to be spent on upkeep. Now take a good look around at the hideous wooden statues that have been dumped around the town and ask yourself if that's likely?  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 10, 2014, 06:34:31 pm
Upkeep of anything is essential-- otherwise the rot sets in. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on March 10, 2014, 08:18:47 pm
If we don't go for Alice what is the alternative? If we stick with it we have to make sure it is done properly.

To do it properly requires money to be spent on upkeep. Now take a good look around at the hideous wooden statues that have been dumped around the town and ask yourself if that's likely?  &shake&

Don't forget that dreadful clock effort!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on March 10, 2014, 10:06:51 pm
I say plant a few more Palm trees. That will bring the visitors in. :) :)
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/Rioja_1/WatersEdgeattheBatytree282014-03-10.jpg) (http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Rioja_1/media/WatersEdgeattheBatytree282014-03-10.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2014, 08:42:29 am
I say plant a few more Palm trees. That will bring the visitors in. :) :)
Holiday Resorts in most areas of the world would certainly agree with you. Creating a pleasant environment for visitors is half the battle. The idea that Alice is our only hope of continuing to thrive as a holiday destination is almost certainly not correct - Llandudno has managed to survive for 150 years as Wales top seaside resort without needing to play upon semi-imaginary links to a childrens book. After all, can anyone tell me how this Trail actually relates to anything tangible Alice related? I can think of Penmorfa (demolished and now a derelict site) and the St Tudnos Hotel. What else is there?

Let's put it in context - a person who died over 70 years ago that was the inspiration for a character in a childrens book came on holiday to Llandudno a few times. Wow...is this what we are building the future of Llandudno as a holiday destination around? What next...a Churchill Trail, to commemorate the fact that Winston stayed in the Grand Hotel in 1948?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yelboh on March 11, 2014, 08:57:48 am
Big news all!  Someone was actually spotted on the scaffolding on the Alexandra hotel yesterday!  Not sure if it was a workman or maybe a guest making the most of the sunshine!
Honestly if the scaffolding is up much longer Cadw may look to,list it!    ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Neil on March 11, 2014, 09:38:15 am
Dave, I think your comment about Palm trees is correct, Llandudno has a unique bay and beautiful architecture which make it look like Nice, on a good day, people coming from dreary inland towns expect to see this difference so we should do everything we can to accentuate it, fully grown palm trees might be expensive but I think they would be a good investment in the future of the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on March 11, 2014, 09:56:41 am
I agree with the Nice analogy and that is another super photo Dave. I think I remember you posting a fantastic one of the ship in Liverpool dock. You should post more!
For me the money would be well spent on the flower beds, palm trees etc which make the place so welcoming. This includes the roundabouts on the way in which adds to the excitement of arriving. I remember going to Sidmouth last year and being bowled over by the gardens on the promenade.
Things like this leave a lasting memory.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on March 11, 2014, 08:24:19 pm
Bring back the windmill in the centre of the roundabout!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on March 11, 2014, 08:57:07 pm
 Does anyone know what went wrong with the "down the rabbit hole" attraction in Trinity Square?
I always thought that was a good idea and I assume it must have had visitors in the early years because it was there a good time
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on March 11, 2014, 09:49:24 pm
I go with looking after  the flower beds around the town and adding plenty of colour everywhere. Believe me Llandudno looks very drab when compared with the likes of Eastbourne and other south coast resorts.
The cost of doing this will be much less than building the alice nonesense and and its ongoing maintenance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on March 11, 2014, 10:35:42 pm
not long till the 1st bank holiday and i wonder when this council is going to clean up the stones from the paddling pool and paint it ,and the west shore boating lake is a mess ,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 12, 2014, 08:37:03 am
Does anyone know what went wrong with the "down the rabbit hole" attraction in Trinity Square?
I always thought that was a good idea and I assume it must have had visitors in the early years because it was there a good time

The Owner retired and all the exhibits were sold off to another company.  Not much happened with them since it would seem.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 12, 2014, 11:12:36 am
Sitting in someone's garage probably ! :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 12, 2014, 11:55:51 am
As far as i know Barry Mortelock bought the exibits,hence all the activity
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on March 12, 2014, 05:26:37 pm
not long till the 1st bank holiday and i wonder when this council is going to clean up the stones from the paddling pool and paint it ,and the west shore boating lake is a mess ,

I see what you mean Norman.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 12, 2014, 05:33:37 pm
I go with looking after  the flower beds around the town and adding plenty of colour everywhere. Believe me Llandudno looks very drab when compared with the likes of Eastbourne and other south coast resorts.
The cost of doing this will be much less than building the alice nonesense and and its ongoing maintenance.
Absolutely.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on March 12, 2014, 05:45:49 pm
There are some nice rows of daffodils along the side of the prom but also some scruffy non flower beds.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 13, 2014, 10:43:05 am
Undercover of this morning’s Fog, yet more stones are being dumped on the North Shore, by the Vandals in Bodlondeb. It beggars belief that they can continue with a policy that patently does not work, destroys the towns major asset and costs us the ratepayer so much money. I just hope the Electorate of Llandudno will remember and hold our elected officers to account, come the local elections. New brooms with new ideas urgently required.   $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 13, 2014, 02:04:59 pm
Undercover of this morning’s Fog, yet more stones are being dumped on the North Shore, by the Vandals in Bodlondeb. It beggars belief that they can continue with a policy that patently does not work, destroys the towns major asset and costs us the ratepayer so much money. I just hope the Electorate of Llandudno will remember and hold our elected officers to account, come the local elections. New brooms with new ideas urgently required.   $angry$

Have to get the Postal Voting anomalies sorted out first!    ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 14, 2014, 09:10:00 pm
My feelings, the original White Rabbit Statue was great and so was Penmorfa, but beyond that the link with Alice is somewhat remote. This latest proposal sounds like a waste of money to me, but if we had a large indoor Alice attraction that could work, say in a rebuilt Pier Pavillion with many other things to bring in the visitors on a damp day?

I agree with every word of that statement, M.E.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on March 14, 2014, 10:13:50 pm
   Going back a day or two to my query about the "Down the Rabbit Hole" and Yorkies reply. I guess the business could not have been going  so well because if the owner wanted to retire he/she would have tried to sell it as a going concern.
   Which leads me on to the next point, is there such a great interest amongst the tourists in Alice?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 15, 2014, 08:02:43 am
Why did CCBC not take over the Rabbit hole or take any interest whatsoever in the exibits.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 15, 2014, 09:05:29 am
Why did CCBC not take over the Rabbit hole or take any interest whatsoever in the exibits.

They seem to like throwing money around !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on March 15, 2014, 06:44:33 pm
  What were the exhibits?  Not genuine Alice clothes or rabbit droppings I don't imagine.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 17, 2014, 03:39:26 pm
Church Walks is closed for two days, between the Empire Hotel and the Tram Station, in order to deal with a hole in the road that has been repeatedly appearing over the last year despite continued repairs. The odd thing that the Road Closed signs all clearly state closed between 17-3-14 and 19-3-19...? Even by CCBC standards, this seems a little long to repair a hole in the road.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 17, 2014, 04:07:53 pm
Compared to the pier pavilion DaveR 5 years is good
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on March 17, 2014, 06:05:54 pm
            I had the pleasure of using one of Arriva's brand new fleet of 15 "Cymru Coastliner" buses which have been brought into use on the X5 and 5 Caernarfon-Llandudno route as from today. They have more comfortable seating, more room, free Wi-Fi, pre-recorded messages that announce the next stop in English and Cymraeg, and also a TV Video screen which also shows the next stop (also in English and Cymraeg) at the front of the passenger area.
           When we stopped in Bangor there was an announcement thanking us for our custom and the whole experience was very enjoyable and very similar to a train journey, although the driver I spoke to said the continuous announcements before every stop, (whether requested or not) were going to get on his nerves eventually!
           They only (inevitable ) downside were the two lads at the back of the bus who were lounging across the rear seats and of course had their feet up on the brand new seats.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 17, 2014, 06:48:32 pm
Church Walks is closed for two days, between the Empire Hotel and the Tram Station, in order to deal with a hole in the road that has been repeatedly appearing over the last year despite continued repairs. The odd thing that the Road Closed signs all clearly state closed between 17-3-14 and 19-3-19...? Even by CCBC standards, this seems a little long to repair a hole in the road.  :laugh:

Planning permission needed perhaps ?? _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on March 17, 2014, 11:47:12 pm
Church Walks is closed for two days, between the Empire Hotel and the Tram Station, in order to deal with a hole in the road that has been repeatedly appearing over the last year despite continued repairs. The odd thing that the Road Closed signs all clearly state closed between 17-3-14 and 19-3-19...? Even by CCBC standards, this seems a little long to repair a hole in the road.  :laugh:

Planning permission needed perhaps ?? _))*

apparently the road will be closed for sewer repair by Welsh Water www.roadworks.org (http://www.roadworks.org)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2014, 08:39:41 am
apparently the road will be closed for sewer repair by Welsh Water www.roadworks.org (http://www.roadworks.org)
That's a useful website, thanks Dwsi.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 18, 2014, 12:22:25 pm
Alan Godfrey Maps have today published an 1899 map of Llandudno, it's available here to purchase:
http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/acatalog/Caernarvonshire.html#SID=23 (http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/acatalog/Caernarvonshire.html#SID=23)

Large scale map of Llandudno (West); Caernarvonshire sheet 1.16. Historical introduction by Kay Parrott. Covers Pavillion, Holy Trinity Church, St Mary's RC Church, Pen-y-morfa Cottages, Bath's Hotel and Wyddfid.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on March 18, 2014, 01:33:59 pm
apparently the road will be closed for sewer repair by Welsh Water www.roadworks.org (http://www.roadworks.org)
That's a useful website, thanks Dwsi.  $good$

 $thanx$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 19, 2014, 05:15:13 pm
This afternoon, a charity called Families of the Brave was collecting in the Victoria Centre.

It is very interesting to read what is currently being reported elsewhere about them.

http://dralexmay.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/families-of-the-brave-shows-how-hard-it-is-to-give-with-confidence/ (http://dralexmay.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/families-of-the-brave-shows-how-hard-it-is-to-give-with-confidence/)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/families-brave-forces-charity-keeps-3234525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/families-brave-forces-charity-keeps-3234525)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 19, 2014, 11:07:22 pm
I am utterly sick of these mercenary 'fake' charities, and the supposed 'student comic' magazines, which are basically thieves and beggars ripping off those who are of a charitable nature.

No wonder we are all more cynical and cautious these days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2014, 09:16:13 am
It really is disgraceful behaviour, I hope everyone on the Forum shuns these scammers and tells all their friends to do so as well.

Even some legitimate charities have dubious fundraising methods - Oxfam seem to employ people to stand outside M&S harassing passersby to donate to them. Interestingly, they seem to be in breach of their own rules:

The new regime, to be enforced across the UK by the Public Fundraising Regulatory Association (PFRA), also means street fundraisers must not:

•   stand within 3m of a shop doorway, cash machines, pedestrian crossing or station entrance


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19316167 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19316167)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 20, 2014, 09:32:15 am
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/great-orme-fire-flames-seen-6854116 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/great-orme-fire-flames-seen-6854116)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on March 20, 2014, 09:47:25 am
I am utterly sick of these mercenary 'fake' charities, and the supposed 'student comic' magazines, which are basically thieves and beggars ripping off those who are of a charitable nature.

No wonder we are all more cynical and cautious these days.

You do a similiar thing with our darts subs  :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 20, 2014, 11:21:17 am
I am utterly sick of these mercenary 'fake' charities, and the supposed 'student comic' magazines, which are basically thieves and beggars ripping off those who are of a charitable nature.

No wonder we are all more cynical and cautious these days.

You do a similiar thing with our darts subs  :'(

As you well know, I invest them wisely on your behalf and for the common good.  ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on March 20, 2014, 12:24:31 pm
I am utterly sick of these mercenary 'fake' charities, and the supposed 'student comic' magazines, which are basically thieves and beggars ripping off those who are of a charitable nature.

No wonder we are all more cynical and cautious these days.

You do a similiar thing with our darts subs  :'(

As you well know, I invest them wisely on your behalf and for the common good.  ?{}?

 Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 22, 2014, 01:17:43 am
Sorry to report that there was an unfortunate scene in the Victoria Shopping centre today.... and I caused it!

You see I had occasion to be in the mobile phone shop, and whilst waiting I got sick and tired of hearing the 'fake' army charity blokes calling out to people.
So I went out, stood by them, called them crooks when they asked me for money.... and I remained there for about 5 minutes trying to dissuade ALL passers by from contributing.
They were perplexed but didn't really know what to do about me.

I needn't have bothered though, because nobody was put off, and I was amazed at the fact that around 80% of people who passed by actually put money in their buckets.      I wasted my time, but I still hate them!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 22, 2014, 07:21:24 am
Good for you Fester! They won't get a penny from me!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 22, 2014, 07:41:36 am
For the record, Fester, yesterday's collectors were Army of Angels.

http://dralexmay.wordpress.com/2014/02/18/can-we-trust-army-of-angels/ (http://dralexmay.wordpress.com/2014/02/18/can-we-trust-army-of-angels/)

Last wednesday's collectors were Families of the Brave.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/families-brave-forces-charity-keeps-3234525 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/families-brave-forces-charity-keeps-3234525)

It seems both charities are run by Sterling Promotions located in Poulton-Le-Fylde.




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 22, 2014, 08:57:49 am
Sadly, these Armed forces 'charities' are only following in the footsteps of some of the major charities in the UK.  The NSPCC, for instance, has a lamentable track record, since all its actual child protection responsibilities were subsumed by the Local Councils under the Children Act. Apart from spending more than 20% of its charitable income on Direct TV Advertising, its only function (though some may argue it's an important one) is the funding of Childline. Remove the cost of Childline from the equation and last year a whopping £95,000,000 was spent on advertising and 'providing information' which can be seen as another form of advertising.

It gets better.  Last year alone they paid more than 52 employees at least £60,000 a year in salary, but that's not between them. The head of NSPCC is paid £170,000 a year, six others are paid more than £100,000 each per year and the rest between £60,000 and £90,000 each.  Nice work if you can get it.

The Charity owns three trading subsidiaries and also owns a staggering £27,000,000 worth of property.  But they don't actually look after any children, so how on earth do they manage to use that amount of property and where is it?

Little wonder that smaller would-be charities eye up this sort of behaviour with more than a little envy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on March 22, 2014, 11:30:22 am
good on you fester ,i allways put in but not anymore ,st davids hospice should get all our donations ,look at david miliband the wedge he,s on for that charity  :rage: as my younger lad says charity begins at home i think he,s right .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bigmurph on March 22, 2014, 08:47:15 pm
Well done fester next time u need any help to fupp them up come down the station and the boys in orange will help u out they r just con artists they should be nicked its wrong !!(rant over)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on March 23, 2014, 03:19:00 pm
Am I correct is stating that to collect on the streets of Llandudno you must first have a licence issued by the Council?

If yes, then ask these guys to show you the licence.  And then report them to the council to try and ensure they don't get it in future.

If not, then get Mr Plod to assist in their removal.

I am involved in event that takes place later in the year and have to apply for, and get, a licence before we can sell programmes to the public on the prom - the money going to local charity organisations who do the selling/collecitng on our behalf.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 23, 2014, 04:14:52 pm
Perhaps they are exempt because they are always active within the Victoria Centre and never in Mostyn Street.

Unfortunately, they were back yesterday with two collectors doing brisk trade with their buckets.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on March 23, 2014, 04:35:56 pm
Has anyone asked the owners of the Victoria Centre if they have given them permissionto collect ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 23, 2014, 06:56:32 pm
There are also regulations as to how collectors conduct themselves.  They should take a passive roll, without shouting calling, soliciting verbally or tin rattling.    They should also remain generally within their allocated collecting position.

Many of these so called charities are just businesses operating in a different way.  The charity  badge sellers who operate on the prom and some others in the Town fall into this category.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on March 23, 2014, 07:25:21 pm
It's not just the Victoria Centre that suffers from chugger infestation, they also target the BayView Centre in Colwyn Bay as well.  Sometimes you'll find more than one of them lined up outside Morrisons.  The worst ones actually set up just inside the doorway of Morrisons itself where you can't avoid them on the way out.  A few times I decided not to go in Morrisons and gone elsewhere rather than face running the gauntlet of chuggers trying to get me to adopt a puppy.  I hope Morrisons get a sufficient kickback to cover their lost sales when they allow this to happen.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 24, 2014, 09:58:15 am
Am I correct is stating that to collect on the streets of Llandudno you must first have a licence issued by the Council?

If yes, then ask these guys to show you the licence.  And then report them to the council to try and ensure they don't get it in future.

If not, then get Mr Plod to assist in their removal.

I am involved in event that takes place later in the year and have to apply for, and get, a licence before we can sell programmes to the public on the prom - the money going to local charity organisations who do the selling/collecitng on our behalf.

You need a licence everywhere else-- at least you did when I used to sell flags. As Yorkie says there is also a code of conduct.--exactly as he says.

One in the Bay View centre kept haranguing me and calling me darling.--- He didn't half get a strip torn off him. He was red faced and stammering when I had finished. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 24, 2014, 10:11:20 am
They sound as bad, if not worse than the dreaded jehova's witless's. They won't get a penny from me!  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 24, 2014, 05:44:01 pm
Am I correct is stating that to collect on the streets of Llandudno you must first have a licence issued by the Council?

If yes, then ask these guys to show you the licence.  And then report them to the council to try and ensure they don't get it in future.

If not, then get Mr Plod to assist in their removal.

I am involved in event that takes place later in the year and have to apply for, and get, a licence before we can sell programmes to the public on the prom - the money going to local charity organisations who do the selling/collecitng on our behalf.

Knowing Sue Nash, the Manager of the Shopping Centre, I am certain that they will have the correct permissions...

However, irrespective of how legal they are, I just don't like them, and I choose to disrupt them, hopefully in a fashion that doesn't involve me committing a public order offence.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 24, 2014, 08:13:43 pm
Don't just bleat about it on the Forum, do something positive:-

Dear Ms Nash, 
I was abashed to see the Victoria Shopping Centre has given permission for Bogus Armed Forces Charities to set up and collect money from the unsuspecting public, within your public areas.
 
I refer to Army of Angles and Families of the Brave. A quick Google search will very easily establish if these are the sort of organisations the Victoria Shopping Centre should be associating with.

I supported many genuine Armed Forces Charities during the 10 years I spent serving my Country whilst serving in the RAF and still support the genuine charities to this day.

Please remove them and be a lot more careful of whom you allow to collect within your precincts in future.

Sue.Nash@capita.co.uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 24, 2014, 08:25:09 pm
So, did you send that, BlongB?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 24, 2014, 08:30:02 pm
So, did you send that, BlongB?

YES e-mail to Sue Nash sent today just as you read it above.

Now over to the rest of you
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 24, 2014, 08:35:13 pm
Good lad!

I shall continue my direct action campaign, as I am due in the 3 mobile shop tomorrow morning, circa 9am.

It won't make a difference though, because they are legal, and passers by take no notice of my protestations.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2014, 09:07:19 am
I shall continue my direct action campaign
$good$
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Post by: born2run on March 25, 2014, 10:37:50 am
Good lad!

I shall continue my direct action campaign, as I am due in the 3 mobile shop tomorrow morning, circa 9am.

It won't make a difference though, because they are legal, and passers by take no notice of my protestations.

I will continue my direct campaign tonight protesting against your darts subs!

Last time I was in the Victorian centre there were some soldiers in uniform pestering people for money. I assume these were the real deal though, and the bogus charity doesn't go the whole hog and dress up?
Seems odd then that there is real charities alongside these - I wonder what the real charities make of them? Surely it should be them protesting?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 25, 2014, 11:52:34 am
A mysterious concrete platform has been installed on a section of lawn near the Pier gates - does anyone know what it is for?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2014, 11:59:39 am
I reckon a bus stop for the land train.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dwsi on March 25, 2014, 01:23:26 pm
Another wooden Alice statue?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2014, 03:50:51 pm
A plastic rabbit.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 25, 2014, 03:52:49 pm
Plinth for a JFS Statue maybe?   L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 25, 2014, 05:09:40 pm
Something to do with Punch and Judy I have heard.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 25, 2014, 09:30:56 pm
Judith has a story on the 48,000 tons of stone they have put on the beach,Colwyn bay gets sand we get stone,interesting.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 25, 2014, 11:44:02 pm
I once suggested on here that the White Rabbit statue should be relocated there, maybe it's happening?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2014, 10:17:21 am
I just hope the concrete slab is not the foundation for some sort of tacky kiosk.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 26, 2014, 10:25:08 am
Jason recently informed me he had permission granted to do something there to do with Punch and Judy and I understand he has now given up his kiosk on the pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2014, 10:28:32 am
Jason recently informed me he had permission granted to do something there to do with Punch and Judy and I understand he has now given up his kiosk on the pier.
I don't recall seeing any sort of Planning Application?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2014, 10:37:59 am
Judith has a story on the 48,000 tons of stone they have put on the beach,Colwyn bay gets sand we get stone,interesting.
I do wonder how effective all that stone is?  How can it stop the town from flooding when the sea level is above it during severe storms (see photo below from earlier this year)? Surely a better solution would be to replace the Prom seating with new seating set into a higher back wall, effectively creating a 3 foot high flood wall along the Prom?

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7409/11223043835_81d297d325_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/11223043835/)
Llandudno High Tide 5 Dec 2013-7954 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/davellandudno/11223043835/) by [davidrobertsphotography] (https://www.flickr.com/people/davellandudno/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2014, 10:53:41 am
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I do wonder how effective all that stone is?  How can it stop the town from flooding when the sea level is above it during severe storms (see photo below from earlier this year)? Surely a better solution would be to replace the Prom seating with new seating set into a higher back wall, effectively creating a 3 foot high flood wall along the Prom?

Not sure how much the mean sea level was actually above the prom;  I suspect the wind driving the waves was the main culprit in the flood damage.

The main object of the stones is to dissipate the energy of the waves and thus reduce the quantity of water which can breach the prom. If you simply had a wall, there'd be no dissipation at all, merely reflection and absorption. The Llandudno shoreline is part of the coastal interface which is exposed to a wide range of erosional processes and thus a combination of denudational processes will work against a seawall. In purely practical terms, something's gotta give, and if that were to happen in a catastrophic failure then a lot of people could be hurt.

I much prefer the soft engineering option that both Colwyn Bay and Llandudno are currently favouring, although a lot of CB's prom is hard-engineered. I think however, you'd need roughly a million tons of sand to make the thing work really well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 26, 2014, 11:14:49 am
[Not sure how much the mean sea level was actually above the prom;  I suspect the wind driving the waves was the main culprit in the flood damage.
The wind was actually pushing the waves away from the central Prom area, down towards the Paddling Pool. If the wind had been straight on to the Prom, there's no doubt in my mind that the Town Centre would have flooded to some degree.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2014, 11:41:24 am
Ah. I wasn't here on 5th December, so I didn't see what was happening but the storm surge bulge and associated dynamics would still have accounted for a lot of the extra water penetration, I imagine.  I think the biggest problem is that Llandudno's built on a low lying isthmus, so how the natural geography will cope with the expected increase in incidence of extreme conditions I just don't know.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2014, 04:23:20 pm
Ah. I wasn't here on 5th December, so I didn't see what was happening but the storm surge bulge and associated dynamics would still have accounted for a lot of the extra water penetration, I imagine.  I think the biggest problem is that Llandudno's built on a low lying isthmus, so how the natural geography will cope with the expected increase in incidence of extreme conditions I just don't know.

Local area navigational charts indicate a Mean High tide well below the promenade level.  The big surges are created by the wind effect over long distances and by the phases of the Moon especially at "Spring" tides.

Nothing much one can do against a Tsunami!
 ZXZ

http://www.tides4fishing.com/uk/wales/llandudno (http://www.tides4fishing.com/uk/wales/llandudno)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 26, 2014, 04:30:13 pm
A mysterious concrete platform has been installed on a section of lawn near the Pier gates - does anyone know what it is for?

I've been told it's to relocate the Morris Column https://www.google.co.uk/#q=morris+column (https://www.google.co.uk/#q=morris+column) that used to be beside where Punch and Judy puts his Kiosk.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2014, 05:35:23 pm
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The big surges are created by the wind effect over long distances and by the phases of the Moon especially at "Spring" tides.

That's part of it, certainly, but the big storm surges are primarily caused by extreme low pressure, which causes the water beneath to expand creating a dome miles wide which can often exceed the highest tide levels by six feet or more. Couple that with wind effects and spring tides and you have problems.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2014, 08:07:58 pm
Didn't want to get too technical!   Plas Menai is the place to go to learn such matters.  Did my navigation and yachtmaster there.   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on March 26, 2014, 09:37:48 pm
If my memory serves me right there used to be wooden groynes on the North shore between the pier and Crag y don.
Are they still in place or have the "experts" ( West Shore version ) done away with them ?
If so it may explain the problems.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on March 26, 2014, 10:11:38 pm
yes mull they took them away won,t listen to local knowledge,and now wagon loads of rock on the once sandy beach ,as someone has mentioned today, someone will hurt themselves going over them rocks and win a big compo, they were warned by an ex councilor,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on March 26, 2014, 10:16:28 pm
I can see a visitor taking a couple of steps into the water at high tide and vanishing beneath the surface. It's pretty damn steep !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 26, 2014, 11:13:40 pm
A mysterious concrete platform has been installed on a section of lawn near the Pier gates - does anyone know what it is for?

I've been told it's to relocate the Morris Column https://www.google.co.uk/#q=morris+column (https://www.google.co.uk/#q=morris+column) that used to be beside where Punch and Judy puts his Kiosk.

Correct BlongB, Mr Punch and Judy himself confirmed that to me today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 26, 2014, 11:30:35 pm
One of these.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 27, 2014, 08:35:25 am
A mysterious concrete platform has been installed on a section of lawn near the Pier gates - does anyone know what it is for?

I've been told it's to relocate the Morris Column https://www.google.co.uk/#q=morris+column (https://www.google.co.uk/#q=morris+column) that used to be beside where Punch and Judy puts his Kiosk.

Correct BlongB, Mr Punch and Judy himself confirmed that to me today.
Why does it need to be moved? The new area of concrete looks very unsightly and is approx 10 times the area of the old base. There are far better things that CCBC should be spending money on along the Prom - tidying up the mess that is the Prom Gardens, for example.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 27, 2014, 08:37:14 am
One of these.
Seeing ME's photo reminded me how good the old Council used to be at promoting Llandudno's various attractions. Sadly, it also reminds me how little effort is made these days....  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on March 27, 2014, 11:16:56 am
After Alice, according to the NWWN today, Rhos-on Sea is going to be promoted because of it's associations with the Americas. What next, Rhyl turns out to be the cradle of civilisation ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 27, 2014, 02:34:38 pm
Valentine;s woods are painting the Alice statue.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 27, 2014, 02:47:49 pm
One of these.
Seeing ME's photo reminded me how good the old Council used to be at promoting Llandudno's various attractions. Sadly, it also reminds me how little effort is made these days....  &shake&

I would love to go back in time and revisit the model railway!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 27, 2014, 04:18:37 pm

Seeing ME's photo reminded me how good the old Council used to be at promoting Llandudno's various attractions. Sadly, it also reminds me how little effort is made these days....  &shake&

That was in the days when Llandudno was run by a very efficient Town Clerk working for an Urban District Council made up by Councillors who knew and respected the History of the town and when locally collected revenues stayed in the town instead of being used as a cash cow to support the rest of Conwy. $angry2$ 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 27, 2014, 05:38:06 pm
That's it in a nutshell!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 28, 2014, 10:13:01 am
Now here is a conundrum. What is going on part way up Arvon Avenue? Hope you can read it !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 28, 2014, 01:26:07 pm
Now here is a conundrum. What is going on part way up Arvon Avenue? Hope you can read it !

It quite likely has something to do with Leslie Nelson ("Les Battersby") who I saw talking to a film crew in the Kings Head yesterday afternoon.  Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 28, 2014, 02:38:14 pm
Wasn't Les Battersby Bruce Jones? ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Pendragon on March 28, 2014, 02:50:17 pm
Yep that's the one.....Bruce Jones.  I have to admit at first I really thought he was a class A pillock, but when you talk to him when he's not three sheets to the wind, he's actually quite a nice guy.  I like him now hehe
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 28, 2014, 03:16:00 pm
Yes you are both right I should have read the whole of the first line of his entry in Wikipedia then I would have used his correct name.  $booboo$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 28, 2014, 04:00:28 pm
Well I shall be interested to see what is going to happen for a whole month-- " The Village People" working on the Clarence will  have a bird's eye view ! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on March 28, 2014, 04:20:32 pm
There is a similar notice cabled tied on the lamp post at the end of Chapel Street near the labour exchange.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on March 28, 2014, 04:55:53 pm
Just seen this on Daily Mail website.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591691/Five-bedroom-three-storey-house-real-Alice-Wonderland-lived-market-time-three-decades-1million-complete-looking-glass.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2591691/Five-bedroom-three-storey-house-real-Alice-Wonderland-lived-market-time-three-decades-1million-complete-looking-glass.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on March 28, 2014, 06:42:46 pm
These filming notices are also as far as west shore
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Post by: Jack on March 28, 2014, 07:18:31 pm
This will be what is being filmed then  ;D

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/coronation-street-star-bruce-jones-6865292 (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/coronation-street-star-bruce-jones-6865292)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 31, 2014, 09:55:05 pm
Yorkie you would have been proud of the town council tonight,about eleven of them turned up on the beach protest,not sure where the others where,JFS sent a political message from Cardiff and poor M Priestly got a pasting but fair do;s for him turning up,unlike half of the town council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on March 31, 2014, 10:31:03 pm
   This post will be of particular interest to Hugo, but it will interest other forum members as well.
   Last summer Hugo came to me and said did I know that around 20/30 goats were camped out on my golf course, and did I mind if he took photos of them. Of course I said no, go ahead.
   When he came back he said what puzzled him was they were all  billy (i.e. male) goats. He said he couldn't understand that, and I certainly had no idea. However in todays Daily Post is a big article about a goat count which is about to take place. And I now know that apparently the billys spend most of the year all together in groups, and only mix with the females when its mating time. (reminds me of a lot of humans I know). So, Hugo and anyone else, you will find the whole half page feature interesting.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 31, 2014, 10:48:59 pm
Thanks Mike, is this the link?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/great-orme-goat-count-gauge-6899333# (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/great-orme-goat-count-gauge-6899333#)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on April 02, 2014, 02:35:54 pm
I was on the golf course yesterday morning walking the dog and a Billy goat shot out from behind a tree and side swiped the dog with a head butt!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 02, 2014, 08:48:02 pm
   Its taken me ages to train it to do that. It watches out for dog walkers who haven't put any cash in my honesty box.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on April 07, 2014, 09:32:01 am
 _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on April 07, 2014, 11:24:19 am
You'll be getting them to collect balls next!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2014, 11:28:45 am
A Planning Application has recently been registered for the former Washington Nightclub:

Provision of boundary wall/railings with gated access to existing car park at the rear of The Washington incorporating re-positioning of bottle recycling bank, provision of wall to East Parade boundary with floorscaping /landscaping works to forecourt, replacement of existing access ramp with new access ramp, re-painting to the exterior of The Washington, re-positioning of extraction flue and provision of uplighters to front elevation of the building. - Internal alterations to building comprising provision of replacement of false ceilings and floor coverings, reconfiguration of internal floorspace, including relocation of kitchen, provision of vestibules, bar/servery and additional toilet facilities.(Listed Building Consent)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on April 07, 2014, 10:14:00 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-26920878 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-26920878)

Interesting article, birds fouling the beach, albeit in a round about way, a concern for dog walkers. Makes a change.
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Post by: Ian on April 08, 2014, 07:07:15 am
The very definition of Irony.
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Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2014, 08:56:59 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-26920878 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-26920878)

Interesting article, birds fouling the beach, albeit in a round about way, a concern for dog walkers. Makes a change.
:laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2014, 09:28:11 am
Great news for the Town:

Llandudno named as a top 10 UK travel destination
Apr 08, 2014 07:00 By Steve Bagnall, David Powell

Tourists have judged Llandudno to be one of the top 10 UK destinations.

The popular North Wales resort was the only Welsh destination named by Internet travel giant TripAdvisor in the top 10 UK rankings

The news will provide a major boost for Llandudno businesses hoping to capitalise as the Easter and summer holiday seasons approach.           

TripAdvisor spokesman James Kay said: “These awards are based on millions of reviews and ratings by those that really matter - travellers themselves.

The news will provide a major boost for Llandudno businesses hoping to capitalise on the holiday season.

Scott and Hannah Lawton, who officially opened their eleven-bedroom Lawton Court Hotel on Saturday with Las Vegas-style showgirls and champagne for guests, welcomed the survey.

Mr Lawton said: “Hopefully, the survey will help us climb the ladder and bring more business to the town.

“There’s lots of new things coming to Llandudno. There’s a hovercraft that may link Llandudno to the Wirral, for example.” 

The signs are good as Scott’s parents Carol-lynn and Ian Lawton run the Lauriston Court Hotel, next door but one, along North Parade.

Last year, the Lauriston Court beat the likes of London’s The Ritz, Claridges, Singapore’s Raffles, Paris’ George V, New York’s Four Seasons and Dubai’s seven-star Burj Al Arab to become the hotel with the best service in the world.

Mr Lawton added: “Luckily, my parents own the hotel next door but one, the multi award winning Lauriston Court Hotel which has inspired us to buy this one and gratefully take the overspill.

“We hope we can fill it every day and be open 365 days a year. So far, we have over 700 nights booked already.

“So we’re hoping for a really good season in Llandudno.

Simon Mason, Llandudno Pier general manager, welcomed the survey. He said: “I totally agree with it and TripAdvisor is what everybody looks at.”

He said visitors come from as far afield as Scotland and Essex to Llandudno with many attracted by the safety, scenery between and beyond the Ormes, Conwy town and the Conwy Valley, he added.

He said: “I know local education authorities regard it as being one of the safest places in the UK.

“It also has the Great Orme and Little Orme, an unspoilt Victorian Promenade and Conwy nearby with its unbelievably history.”

These were the top 10 UK destinations according to TripAdvisor:

1. London

2. Edinburgh

3. Torquay

4. Liverpool

5. Belfast

6. York

7. Bristol

8. Llandudno

9. Leeds

10. Birmingham


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-named-top-10-uk-6927751 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-named-top-10-uk-6927751)
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Post by: born2run on April 08, 2014, 10:55:01 am
Amazing  :D

Llandudno is by far the smallest as well
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 08, 2014, 11:31:16 am
There is a Public Exhibition today in the Orme Suite of Venue Cymru from 1pm - 6pm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 08, 2014, 03:18:43 pm
Don't just bleat about it on the Forum, do something positive:-

Dear Ms Nash, 
I was abashed to see the Victoria Shopping Centre has given permission for Bogus Armed Forces Charities to set up and collect money from the unsuspecting public, within your public areas.
 
I refer to Army of Angles and Families of the Brave. A quick Google search will very easily establish if these are the sort of organisations the Victoria Shopping Centre should be associating with.

I supported many genuine Armed Forces Charities during the 10 years I spent serving my Country whilst serving in the RAF and still support the genuine charities to this day.

Please remove them and be a lot more careful of whom you allow to collect within your precincts in future.

Sue.Nash@capita.co.uk

Regretfully, Army of Angels was back today collecting in the Victoria Centre.

According to today’s Daily Mail, another charity called Afghan Heroes is to close.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599441/Afghan-Heroes-charity-close-raked-555-000-donations-spent-just-15-000-helping-people.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599441/Afghan-Heroes-charity-close-raked-555-000-donations-spent-just-15-000-helping-people.html)


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on April 08, 2014, 04:36:36 pm

Simon Mason, Llandudno Pier general manager, welcomed the survey. He said: an unspoilt Victorian Promenade

What a travesty, it's a great pity Mr Mason didn't look at the Promenade before he gave his quote to the Daily Post, UNSPOILT ruined would have been the word I chose  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 09, 2014, 07:43:41 am
Anyone know what the outcome of the council meeting last nite re-the kiddies corner beach.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 09, 2014, 08:48:24 am
With pleasure, wrex.  $good$

The meeting was the Community Services & Tourism Committee of Llandudno Town Council and was attended by both councillors and members of the general public.

The meeting commenced at 7pm.

Agenda item 6 was:

To receive a report from the Beach Working Party and to consider submitting a request to Finance & General Purposes Committee for funding towards North Shore Beach Improvement Works at Children’s Corner.

The Committee’s Chairman, Cllr Greg Robbins, provided his report and proposed a sum of £5,000.

This was carried unanimously by the Committee but only “in principle” as it has to be ratified later by the Finance & General Purposes Committee.

Nevertheless, this was enough to move matters forward.

Standing Orders were suspended for a few minutes to allow Mr Ian Turner to address the Council Chamber and Ian spoke passionately about the task ahead for his North Shore Group following which Ian received a warm round of applause.

The Committee Chair, Cllr Billy Evans, thanked Ian, wished his Group well and the Committee broke for a tea break at around 8pm.

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Post by: Ian on April 09, 2014, 09:12:46 am
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The meeting commenced at 7pm...the Committee broke for a tea break at around 8pm

Golly! Hard work being a councillor.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2014, 10:01:47 am
If only the Town Councillors all had the passion to improve things that Ian Turner does. A great man indeed!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 09, 2014, 12:51:41 pm
If only the Town Councillors all had the passion to improve things that Ian Turner does. A great man indeed!

Some do have passion but this is generally firmly suppressed by the 'old brigade'.  Folk stand for Council with the intention of putting everything right that is wrong with the Town.  However they soon discover they are out on a limb by themselves and have to work hard to get any support.  They also discover that any idea costs money, which in the Town Council is not a great deal.   Generally the Council tend to spend what little they have on Civic Sunday, Mayor Making, odd projects that could be better done by local voluntary groups, statues, clocks that are never right and lots of other sundry items such as filling the Mayoral Cocktail Cabinet, and supplying flavoured water for Staff during the hot Summer months!
I like to ask Town Councillors the question, "What have you done during the past year to improve the Town or its Services for the Benefit of the Residents?"  It is surprising, or maybe not, to listen to the waffle that is poured forth in an effort to justify their position.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2014, 01:40:34 pm
I undertand that a £1,000,000 Lottery prize has been claimed from Nigel Roberts Newsagents by a Carol Jones from Conwy. Well Done to her!
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Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2014, 07:37:03 pm
A large section of the Promenade is now fenced off, following safety concerns about the ongoing work to replenish sea defences. What sort of a message it sends to Llandudno's visitors, I don't know, as Easter approaches...
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Post by: Fester on April 09, 2014, 11:49:19 pm
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The meeting commenced at 7pm...the Committee broke for a tea break at around 8pm

Golly! Hard work being a councillor.

It must indeed be hell Ian, as only half an hour later, Cllr Robbins was in the Cross Keys, (where I was playing darts) and he gave me the low down on the proposals.    He is also a cracking darts player to be fair!
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2014, 09:03:13 am
Watch: Angry Llandudno residents confront lorries delivering stones to beach too early
Apr 09, 2014 18:31 By Rhodri Barker

People say the stones will ruin the beach and deter holidaymakers and have been confronting lorries turning up earlier than 8am to deliver them

Angry residents have confronted  trucks which turned up too early to  make controversial deliveries of stones  to a beach.

They include a hotelier who says the lorries working on Llandudno promenade woke his guests.

Lorries have spent weeks delivering stones to the beach  after defences were damaged  during winter storms.

The move has caused outrage among residents who  fear the stones will ruin the  beach and deter holidaymakers.

Geoff Lofthouse, general  manager of the Imperial  Hotel, said he staged his  “one-man protest” after several  guests complained that they were woken  by the noise of the deliveries on Friday.

He said: “They started work at 7.20am,  which is totally unacceptable. Guests  complained not only at my hotel, but at  the hotel next door too.

“They said they could start at 7.30, so I  went and stood in front of the trucks for  10 minutes.

“Guests pay extra for front-facing  rooms, but some said they would  have stayed in rooms at the back  if they’d known about this.  Emptying the stones out of a  metal truck on to more stones  makes a horrendous noise.”

Mr Lofthouse said that, following his protest, the council told him that work would  start at 8am in future.

However, this morning, Ian  Turner, chairman of a newly  formed action group aimed at  restoring Llandudno’s North Shore to its  “former glory”, was on the promenade to  complain that deliveries were being  made before 8am.

He stood in front of a truck owned by  Porthmadog firm O J Jones & Son and  claims it carried on moving, hitting his  shoulder and arm.

A video posted on Facebook by Mr  Turner shows him gesturing towards the  vehicle and saying: “You hit me with this  wagon.”

Mr Turner filmed several lorries driving on to the prom while complaining  that it was not yet 8am. In the video, his  watch shows the time is a few minutes  before 8am.

A driver in a lorry belonging to  Staffordshire firm N S Clarke Transport  is seen showing Mr Turner the V-sign.

Mr Turner said: “I stood my ground in  front of a wagon and shouted it wasn't  eight o’clock yet, but he drove into me  hitting my arm and shoulder with a  glancing blow.

“I continued to shout at him saying  he’d hit me as I was really shocked and  shaken up by it. I was there on a point of  principle as one of the people who is  objecting to the way our North Shore  beach is being ruined by stones.”

O J Jones & Son declined to comment  when approached by the Daily Post.

Asked about the driver who showed  Mr Turner the V-sign, a spokesman for N  S Clarke Transport said: “We are looking  into it and will speak to the driver. The  driver should not have done it and we  have apologised to Mr Turner, who  called us to complain.”

A county council spokeswoman said:  “Trucks arrived on site prior to work  starting at 8am. However, we can confirm no tipping of material has been  carried out before 8am in order to minimise impact on local businesses.”

Iwan Davies, Conwy’s chief executive, answered critics of the work at a cabinet meeting this week.

He said: “What we're currently doing in Llandudno is putting the coastal defences back to their 2002 state - nothing more, just reinstating the existing defences. Keeping Llandudno safe has to be the overriding aim.

“I would rather be criticised for lack of sand on the beach than the council being held responsible in due course for failing to protect Llandudno's residents and businesses from flooding.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-angry-llandudno-residents-confront-6943488 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-angry-llandudno-residents-confront-6943488)
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Post by: born2run on April 10, 2014, 09:22:02 am
What good is taking it out on the workers going to do?

Some protest!

If they really want to protest go and cause a scene in the offices where the decisions are made
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Post by: Ian on April 10, 2014, 10:08:29 am
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Mr Turner said: “I stood my ground in  front of a wagon and shouted it wasn't  eight o’clock yet, but he drove into me  hitting my arm and shoulder with a  glancing blow.

Bad positioning  ;D

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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 10, 2014, 10:28:59 am
The protest was because the lorries were going onto the promenade before they were allowed to at 8am.

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Post by: born2run on April 10, 2014, 10:39:45 am
The protest was because the lorries were going onto the promenade before they were allowed to at 8am.

My apologies. Protesting because someone starts work ten minutes earlier than they're supposed to is well worth the dedication $good$ Suprsed nobody set themselves on fire.
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2014, 10:46:28 am
Ian Turner is a great guy, I have the utmost respect for him. He's contributed far more to Llandudno that most people have.  $good$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 10, 2014, 11:06:05 am
Ian Turner is a great guy, I have the utmost respect for him. He's contributed far more to Llandudno that most people have.  $good$

Very true!  $good$
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Post by: hollins on April 10, 2014, 11:06:24 am
The reason for changing the start time to 8am instead of 7-7.30am was to help reduce the impact on hotel guests.. If I had paid extra for a sea view room while on holiday even 8am would seem early to be woken up by heavy haulage tipping rocks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on April 10, 2014, 01:56:01 pm
The reason for changing the start time to 8am instead of 7-7.30am was to help reduce the impact on hotel guests.. If I had paid extra for a sea view room while on holiday even 8am would seem early to be woken up by heavy haulage tipping rocks.

Agree wholeheartedly. But what good is harrasing the poor workman going to do?
They have to do as they're told by those in power. If you want to get something done go to the top, and make a bloody lot of noise over there  $angry$
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Post by: wrex on April 10, 2014, 02:54:15 pm
At the end of the day we do not want the stones,if CCBC have paid upfront for them then they can store them in the Pier Pavilion pit and use it as a car park until they sort it out,only been20 years,as for Ian getting abuse it is out of order we the public asked him to get involved so vent your anger somewhere else,i enjoy being slagged pick on the lve.
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Post by: born2run on April 10, 2014, 02:57:29 pm
Who has been abusing Ian?
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Post by: majormellons on April 10, 2014, 04:14:57 pm
Ian Turner is a great guy, I have the utmost respect for him. He's contributed far more to Llandudno that most people have.  $good$

Agree, and don't like the look of our new beach, but the fuss he made over a couple of minutes before 8.00am, just made him look ridiculous.
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Post by: born2run on April 10, 2014, 04:35:17 pm
Finally some sanity  D)

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Post by: Cambrian on April 10, 2014, 07:46:42 pm
Some folk may recall that a Dr Philip Barber was the consultant who advised on the beach nourishment scheme (opposed at the time by Ian Turner and a few other councillors).  I noticed he is still active and if you google Hopton on Sea Parish Council, they had a meeting in 2013 headed "Who stole our beach".  Dr Barber seems involved there. For some reason the press have not made any reference to Barber's proposals which have resulted in the present unsatisfactory situation.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bigmurph on April 10, 2014, 08:54:39 pm
I went down the prom this morning just to see the new beach, I was shocked !! I can understand the reason behind it but that will not solve the problem long term after every bad storm they will have to put the smaller stones back into place and also it's very hard to walk on not very good for the visitors who want to walk along the shore.
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Post by: Ian on April 11, 2014, 07:51:59 am
Interestingly, the Weekly News has been running with this story for two weeks. One letter pointed out some salient facts which - if accurate - make what some people have been saying seem a bit uninformed.

He maintains that the original beach was little different except - obviously - that the stones would have been more rounded, due to continuous movement by the tides against each other and the sand. It's the same process I used to use to produce highly polished stones for setting. But I also remember that more than 40 years ago the beach was a mass of these stones and were nasty to walk on.

The letter writer, however, goes on to point out that steps were built leading down from the road level across the stones to reach the sandy section of the shore, revealed at low and mid-tides. Nothing unusual in that, you might think, but it's what he said next I found interesting: the groynes (which some people argue were created to retain sand) were - in fact - built to protect the steps and not to retain sand.

Another letter writer argued that it would be feasible to reduce the overall height of the stones before laying a semi-permeable membrane across them which could then be covered in sand providing - in effect - a synthetic beach.
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Post by: Ian on April 12, 2014, 10:59:09 am
As an aside but relevant, nonetheless, Judith Phillips shows a sweet turn of phrase in her second paragraph in the NWWN article, 3rd April, when she writes

"And a leading councillor was hit by a wave of discontent from the 200-strong crowd...".

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Post by: Yorkie on April 12, 2014, 12:29:09 pm
When is a Mayor not a Mayor?  A little dicky bird tells me

It seems that the Llandudno Town Mayor has taken some form of employment (probably unpaid) with our AM, Janet Finch-Saunders, and that the majority (if not all) of the Mayoral duties are now being carried out by the Deputy Mayor.

Is it right that the Mayor, who receives a generous allowance from the Townsfolk, should be carrying out Electoral work for the AM, rather than completing the duties he swore to do at his Mayor Making Ceremony?  Surely he could refrain from such activities for another month or so rather than getting himself involved in Election proceedings, yet to be announced?

Obviously JF-S is aware of this and should not condone such behaviour.  Or is she demonstrating that her political ambitions are more important than anything else?
 :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on April 12, 2014, 12:41:21 pm
Or is she demonstrating that her political ambitions are more important than anything else?


Come on Yorkie, a politicians ambitions are almost always more important than anything else.
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Post by: Cambrian on April 12, 2014, 12:53:13 pm
Civic heads usually refrain from party political activity during their year of office.  They change over sometime in May.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 12, 2014, 03:30:46 pm
Or is she demonstrating that her political ambitions are more important than anything else?


Come on Yorkie, a politicians ambitions are almost always more important than anything else.

There are the questions of PROTOCOL and CIVIC DUTY, some Councillors are obviously devoid of such considerations!    WWW

I noticed on TV today that JF-S was at the Welsh Conservatives Conference.  David Jones gave a fantastic and sensible speech which almost had me converted to Conservatism!   I think, however, that I may follow Nigel at the next Election!   WWW WWW WWW WWW
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Post by: Cambrian on April 13, 2014, 02:12:56 pm
The Mayor has tweeted that he wants "the groins back".  Good to know the AM's office manager has spell check!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 13, 2014, 02:49:05 pm
It must be set to English (US).
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Post by: TheMedz on April 13, 2014, 08:31:47 pm
I know it's not the raging waves of winter but the slight waves coming in with the breeze on North Shore tonight are definitely breaking some 3 or 4 metres further from the prom than in the past. Good thing ?
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Post by: DaveR on April 14, 2014, 01:47:06 pm
Llandudno Town Council are holding a short ceremony in Happy Valley (by the cafe) on Thursday Morning at 11am to mark the unveiling of the 'Alex Munro Way' signs. Everyone is welcome to attend.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 14, 2014, 09:44:41 pm
   If that has been publicised my attention has missed it.   Your post is the first I have heard of it
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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2014, 09:40:42 am
Our local MP has commented on the North Shore Beach issue:

Llandudno Beach Update
Monday, 14 April, 2014
Following recent public concern and the two public meetings that have been held, Guto met last Friday with Cllr. Mike Priestley to discuss the issue.

Cllr. Priestley informed Guto that the council will shortly be placing the technical argument for the works on the local authority website.  Cllr. Priestley acknowledged that there had been a number of shortcomings in their handling of this matter, specifically commenting that the local authority had failed to communicate effectively with local businesses and residents about the works  and that they are actively trying to rectify that issue.

Guto was pleased to hear that the local authority are working constructively with Llandudno Town Council specifically to remedy the sand issues at “Kiddies Corner” and that an active dialogue has been opened with them over the wider beach issues.

Guto said,
“ I applaud Cllr. Priestley for facing the public and accepting that errors have been made.  It would have been easy to hide behind council officials and not enter into a dialogue with the public.   It is hard for me, to comment further until I have had the opportunity to evaluate the technical evidence and to also investigate when, where and how these particular measures were decided on.  However, I am confident that the local authority are well aware of the strong feelings of local residents and businesses and are aware that this issue is not going to go away.”
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 15, 2014, 08:03:13 pm
You all know my glass is always half empty but thats me.Been for a walk along prom and pier ,lovly nite,beach looks disgusting,obviously been very busy will someone take a look in the morning just to see if anyone has cleaned it,as for the beach as a whole with the tide right out i have never never never seen so little sand,i never realised how much of the stone had spread and covered the sand.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 15, 2014, 09:40:03 pm
Quite disgusted at the state of the prom. and Can not wait until the gobby high vizz vest leave.
Many a time I have walked past them only to have the micky taken out of me. Shame I'm not 20 years younger.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 16, 2014, 10:06:20 am
Quite disgusted at the state of the prom. and Can not wait until the gobby high vizz vest leave.
Many a time I have walked past them only to have the micky taken out of me. Shame I'm not 20 years younger.
I've noticed them mouthing off at people, as well.  I wonder if CCBC realise its going on? &shake&
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Post by: born2run on April 16, 2014, 11:41:20 am
Quite disgusted at the state of the prom. and Can not wait until the gobby high vizz vest leave.
Many a time I have walked past them only to have the micky taken out of me. Shame I'm not 20 years younger.
I've noticed them mouthing off at people, as well.  I wonder if CCBC realise its going on? &shake&

What do they say? Surely this should have been reported to their managers :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 16, 2014, 12:16:01 pm
I got a right mouthful from the bloke directing traffic from the prom at the Imperial slipway area.   Don't know why they allow these people to direct traffic as they haven't a clue! ^*^0
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Post by: norman08 on April 16, 2014, 01:57:18 pm
was that the small scouser yorkie ,they won,t look at me now lol, i put an idea to the council the other week ,about them going on the prom at the venue opening knocking the middle post down [putting it back when job finished ] straight off rounabout no blocked of of prom from imp to venue ,too easy .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bigmurph on April 16, 2014, 08:13:02 pm
They should have a site manager or at least a foreman have a word with them and report what has gone on, if that fails report them to the council that sort of behaviour would not be tolerated on any construction site.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 16, 2014, 08:42:01 pm
They should have a site manager or at least a foreman have a word with them and report what has gone on, if that fails report them to the council that sort of behaviour would not be tolerated on any construction site.

The main problem arises IF there is an incident, or an accident.  This is why only the Police or approved Council Traffic Wardens are allowed to direct traffic, unless, of course, there is an emergency situation.
Directing traffic relies on clear and direct signals that the motorist, pedestrian or other road user can understand and react to, and bad direction can cause accidents or even interfere with the effective movement of traffic.
The rudimentaries can be taught in a few hours so there is no excuse for these construction companies not having a trained operator on this type of contract, where traffic control is necessary.
 ZXZ
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Post by: Fester on April 16, 2014, 10:01:16 pm
'People only get treated how they allow themselves to be treated'  - Jerry Springer.

Don't get mad, get even!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on April 16, 2014, 10:41:05 pm
small thing but well don Olly for getting Alex Monroe name put on a street name in Llandudno. Boy done well
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 17, 2014, 09:03:42 am
small thing but well don Olly for getting Alex Monroe name put on a street name in Llandudno. Boy done well
Not wishing to be churlish, but it was I that contacted the Town Council back in June 2012, suggested the name 'Alex Munro Way' and it was Cllr Phillip Evans who steered the idea through Council. Craig Ollerton came up with the idea of a memorial many years ago, but nothing ever came of it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 17, 2014, 11:48:41 am
i saw the sand raker on the lipway this morning,progress i wonder
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Post by: suepp on April 17, 2014, 01:28:21 pm
how long would that take I wonder?
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Post by: Dave on April 17, 2014, 02:12:10 pm
I notice that the Marine Drive is closed to the public on 27th April. Anyone know why ?

Closest guess I can find is this :-
http://www.visitllandudno.org.uk/events/gran-fondo-conwy-p308481 (http://www.visitllandudno.org.uk/events/gran-fondo-conwy-p308481)

We have visitors and I was going to walk around the Orme, maybe I won't be able to now.
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Post by: dwsi on April 17, 2014, 04:38:31 pm
I notice that the Marine Drive is closed to the public on 27th April. Anyone know why ?

Closest guess I can find is this :-
http://www.visitllandudno.org.uk/events/gran-fondo-conwy-p308481 (http://www.visitllandudno.org.uk/events/gran-fondo-conwy-p308481)

We have visitors and I was going to walk around the Orme, maybe I won't be able to now.

Grand Fondo Conwy http://granfondoconwy.com/ (http://granfondoconwy.com/)
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Post by: Yorkie on April 17, 2014, 06:56:31 pm
I notice that the Marine Drive is closed to the public on 27th April. Anyone know why ?

Closest guess I can find is this :-
http://www.visitllandudno.org.uk/events/gran-fondo-conwy-p308481 (http://www.visitllandudno.org.uk/events/gran-fondo-conwy-p308481)

We have visitors and I was going to walk around the Orme, maybe I won't be able to now.

Grand Fondo Conwy http://granfondoconwy.com/ (http://granfondoconwy.com/)


Brings in Tourists and that's what everyone is always shouting for!  Let's have a permanent extravaganza like Southend, Blackpool and Brighton!  Then we can start building a few hotels instead of knocking them down!    WWW  WWW  WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 18, 2014, 11:08:40 am
I have lived in Southend on Sea and also have friends in Blackpool and their demise is similar to ours with lots of the small guest houses closing down making room for the Big Guns. Southend has the added problems of mass immigrants occupying hotel and guest house accommodation which in turn give an air of insecurity to the holiday maker. Petty crime such as pick pocketting is high in that area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on April 18, 2014, 12:29:24 pm
I have lived in Southend on Sea and also have friends in Blackpool and their demise is similar to ours with lots of the small guest houses closing down making room for the Big Guns. Southend has the added problems of mass immigrants occupying hotel and guest house accommodation which in turn give an air of insecurity to the holiday maker. Petty crime such as pick pocketting is high in that area.

Sahfend on Mud was my happy hunting ground as a teenager.  Remember the Kursal, the pier and its train, and especially underneath it!  :D

When I was in the RAF I was stationed at Kirkham for a year so B'pool was also an attraction for me.  All that excitement was over 50 years ago so only you and the Lord knows what the places are like now!    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on April 18, 2014, 02:09:38 pm
Remember Kursal well. The pier has been revamped and looks good. I have lots of friends who live there and tell me all kinds of not so nice stories about the goings on with the immigrants. When I lived there the town was virtually looked after by the cordorey brothers and the moody family amongst a few others. but times must change and situations reinvent themselves.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on April 18, 2014, 04:03:03 pm
small thing but well don Olly for getting Alex Monroe name put on a street name in Llandudno. Boy done well
Not wishing to be churlish, but it was I that contacted the Town Council back in June 2012, suggested the name 'Alex Munro Way' and it was Cllr Phillip Evans who steered the idea through Council. Craig Ollerton came up with the idea of a memorial many years ago, but nothing ever came of it.

More about Alex Munro Way on the Daily Post website - and our very own DaveR gets a mention  $good$

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/arts-culture-news/llandudno-road-named-after-former-7006517 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/arts-culture-news/llandudno-road-named-after-former-7006517)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 18, 2014, 10:29:10 pm
 I see Llandudno has another nutter sorry character around. After the monkey man we now have a gentleman positioned around Sainsburys, top hat, black formal attire, with empty collecting tin in his hand marked bird whistle and a strange noise coming out of his mouth. At least I think it was coming out of his mouth.
  Spotted him twice as I drove down Mostyn street. Yes I know. My eyes should b on the road. But I was held up by the pedestrian crossing
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 19, 2014, 12:09:53 am
“The idea to rename the road came from resident Dave Roberts and it has taken quite a lot of time to organise but I am thrilled it has finally happened.”


Well done mate....   $good$ $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on April 19, 2014, 07:18:39 am
 :laugh: Maybe we can get the pier pavilion renamed the RAT PIT and the North  Shore Quarry experience.
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Post by: DVT on April 19, 2014, 09:35:30 am
... an idea for Llandudno to take up ???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-27068921 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-27068921)

... perhaps something similar using boulders ???
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Post by: Ian on April 19, 2014, 10:50:54 am
 _))*

Those sand sculpture events are always fascinating. Would act as quite a draw for the resort, too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 19, 2014, 11:07:38 am
I see Llandudno has another nutter sorry character around. After the monkey man we now have a gentleman positioned around Sainsburys, top hat, black formal attire, with empty collecting tin in his hand marked bird whistle and a strange noise coming out of his mouth. At least I think it was coming out of his mouth.
  Spotted him twice as I drove down Mostyn street. Yes I know. My eyes should b on the road. But I was held up by the pedestrian crossing

Walked past him yesterday. He was certainly getting comment from passers by !!
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Post by: wrex on April 19, 2014, 03:37:36 pm
Really pleased too see Llandudno heaving today and all our buisness people making a good penny.Went on the cablecar and had to que 45 minutes,good luck to the lads who invested init.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 19, 2014, 05:01:56 pm
Gridlock on the Orme this afternoon following a collision between a campervan and the downward travelling tram.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 19, 2014, 05:04:16 pm
more
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Post by: Hugo on April 19, 2014, 05:12:26 pm
Ouch!     They will really be sleeping under the stars tonight.        That's an expensive collision.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 19, 2014, 05:18:24 pm
Trams starting moving again. Gridlock not helped by the gate to Happy Valley down to Black Gate being open.
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Post by: norman08 on April 19, 2014, 05:27:18 pm
it was gridlocked at happy valley ,cars couldn,t get up or down to ski slope ,i spent ages helping out getting it sorted car park full so cars had nowhere to go told the guy the should have a sign at bottom when its full ,another cockup by our wonderfull council ,looking around town thier are plenty of places that can be used for parking ,and charities and schools could benefit.
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Post by: Cambrian on April 19, 2014, 05:35:06 pm
It seems an odd mishap.  If they were both travelling in the same direction I wonder how it happened. Anyone any thoughts ?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 19, 2014, 05:42:55 pm
The camper van wasn't over the white line, although the top seems to be due to the camber of the road! The tram can't stop instantly, should be an interesting insurance claim!
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Post by: Ian on April 19, 2014, 05:56:54 pm
And so the holiday season starts...
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Post by: TheMedz on April 19, 2014, 06:14:45 pm
Possibly the awning on the campervan  wasn't stowed away properly and came out when the camber put the van on a slope !
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 19, 2014, 08:49:11 pm
And so the holiday season starts...

Yes, we saw a few bad drivers this morning in Llandudno! Normal for a bank holiday really!
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Post by: wrex on April 20, 2014, 11:01:25 am
Im confused(yes and mad ,i know),all this talk about clearing the stones off kiddies corner,anyone know why it aint happened yet,the parks dept has forgotten to cut the grass for easter all over town,we get into thetop ten in Britten so CCBC decides they can;t be bothered.
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Post by: Blongb on April 20, 2014, 05:06:20 pm
we get into thetop ten in Britten so CCBC decides they can;t be bothered.

That was only a Tripadvisor rating Wrex which has no bearing on reality.
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Post by: wrex on April 20, 2014, 07:02:23 pm
Llandudno quite often comes high in places to visit and there are plenty around this weekend but my point is CCBC have not prepared the town for a major holiday weekend,what are you hoteliers paying rates for.
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Post by: Yorkie on April 20, 2014, 07:09:14 pm
Llandudno quite often comes high in places to visit and there are plenty around this weekend but my point is CCBC have not prepared the town for a major holiday weekend,what are you hoteliers paying rates for.

What are ANY OF US paying rates for should be the question!  Our road looks like a jungle with all the weeds growing along the pavements and verges, apart from all the other shortcomings of the Town.  The Town and County Councillors must walk, drive, or be chauffeured round with their eyes firmly closed.  But they will shortly be calling on us to support one of their own kind to me moved on to higher office.  They must be joking!    ZXZ
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Post by: romanjohn on April 21, 2014, 10:21:42 pm
How is work going with the pier head  thankyou  romanjohn
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Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2014, 09:33:26 am
How is work going with the pier head  thankyou  romanjohn
Hello John, it's all finished and ready for the return of the Waverley this Summer.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on April 23, 2014, 07:11:34 pm
Now i have been called a bully and been told i have too much to say but who cares,am i stupid though.They are building a new jetty for the sailing club and they are putting all the famous quarry stones on the beach so why hav;nt they demolished the old wooden jetty which is damaged and filled the space with more quarry stones,just a point.
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Post by: Jas on April 23, 2014, 09:31:57 pm
Hi, Has anyone eaten at the Orient Express in Gloddeath Ave? have read the reviews which all sound very good, we are thinking to go there for lunch later this week and would welcome some feedback,   Thanks.  Jas
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Post by: Blongb on April 24, 2014, 10:03:37 am

Hello John, it's all finished and ready for the return of the Waverley this Summer.  $good$

If you fancy a trip on the Waverley when it comes to Llandudno in August I suggest you go on line and book it now. The sailing on Tuesday the 26th to Puffin Island and Red Wharf Bay still has availability, but the sailing on Wednesday the 27th is now fully booked with a waiting list.
http://booking.waverleyexcursions.co.uk/?sailing_area=3 (http://booking.waverleyexcursions.co.uk/?sailing_area=3)
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Post by: born2run on April 24, 2014, 11:28:18 am
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/133135/woman-fined-75-for-littering-after-binning-cigarette-butt-in-conwy.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/133135/woman-fined-75-for-littering-after-binning-cigarette-butt-in-conwy.aspx)

This one was in Conwy, but I remember about a month back - walking the stretch of road from bog island all the way up to the Alex hotel and I didn't find one bin to put my rubbish in, did however pass 3 of these litter officers!
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Post by: Pendragon on April 24, 2014, 01:30:15 pm
I always carry a Stubbie Pouch with me.  I was given a box full a few years ago.  I keep one in my handbag and one in my rucksack.  They are very handy.  When you have finished your cigarette you just place the lit ciggy in the pouch and it extinguishes it without any smell either.  D)
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Post by: Cordyline on April 25, 2014, 10:54:34 am
Waverley; thanks for info

 Just booked afternoon trip from Llandudno
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Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2014, 11:44:44 am
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/133135/woman-fined-75-for-littering-after-binning-cigarette-butt-in-conwy.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/133135/woman-fined-75-for-littering-after-binning-cigarette-butt-in-conwy.aspx)

This one was in Conwy, but I remember about a month back - walking the stretch of road from bog island all the way up to the Alex hotel and I didn't find one bin to put my rubbish in, did however pass 3 of these litter officers!

The people in question have no right to demand your name and you do not have to give it. Tell them to send for the police--- They don't !

A friend put his tab end down a drain and was fined £75. The matter was investigated by his local councillor and this came to light.

Not seen them in Llandudno recently ????????
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Post by: Dave on April 27, 2014, 09:51:10 am
They should be sent to the car park above the Rest and Be Thankful Cafe on the Orme at night, the litter there is an absolute disgrace. Tins and bottles everywhere as well as other evidence of the use of that particular site at night time. There isn't a bin to be found but I doubt if there was it would be used anyway. Besides, if the rubbish arrived by car it's easy to be taken home the same way.
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Post by: Dave on April 27, 2014, 08:32:58 pm
A walk over the Little Orme today and there below the summit an area totally littered with cans and bottles from a drinks gathering in recent days. Can't we teach our youth to respect our countryside and local beauty ? Shame on you those responsible.
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Post by: born2run on April 28, 2014, 10:00:08 am
A walk over the Little Orme today and there below the summit an area totally littered with cans and bottles from a drinks gathering in recent days. Can't we teach our youth to respect our countryside and local beauty ? Shame on you those responsible.

How do you know it's youths?
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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2014, 04:22:41 pm
Good to see the Prom Shelters getting a paint,they were starting to look a bit shabby.
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Post by: Ian48 on April 28, 2014, 04:26:46 pm
For those into photography (of which there are several here I am aware of), the well-known photographer Martin Parr came to Llandudno and has published a selection of his images on his website:

 http://www.martinparr.com/recent-work/recent-work-4/ (http://www.martinparr.com/recent-work/recent-work-4/)

He's a great photographer and often chronicles UK life in places like resorts and small towns and was particularly known for this in the 70s/80s.

Apologies if this has been previously posted.

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Post by: DaveR on April 28, 2014, 04:30:55 pm
For those into photography (of which there are several here I am aware of), the well-known photographer Martin Parr came to Llandudno and has published a selection of his images on his website:

 http://www.martinparr.com/recent-work/recent-work-4/ (http://www.martinparr.com/recent-work/recent-work-4/)

He's a great photographer and often chronicles UK life in places like resorts and small towns and was particularly known for this in the 70s/80s.

Apologies if this has been previously posted.
My honest opinion is that any tourist with an iphone could take as good a photo as any of those posted. Not impressed at all, what do others think?
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Post by: Ian48 on April 28, 2014, 04:33:05 pm
Probably agree, but a lot of his other work in the past has been very good.
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Post by: Ian on April 28, 2014, 05:06:28 pm
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My honest opinion is that any tourist with an iphone could take as good a photo as any of those posted. Not impressed at all, what do others think?

There are some nice ones, but the overall quality is variable.
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Post by: hollins on April 28, 2014, 05:31:17 pm
I found the subject matter a bit "mickey taking" and too up close and personal.
Some are not very clear either.
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Post by: wrex on April 28, 2014, 05:52:01 pm
What happened to the new victorian shelters,maybe they don;t blend in with the quarry.
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Post by: Fester on April 28, 2014, 09:16:04 pm
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My honest opinion is that any tourist with an iphone could take as good a photo as any of those posted. Not impressed at all, what do others think?

There are some nice ones, but the overall quality is variable.

Very little of interest in those, and I was looking forward to them......   below 'Parr' tourist snaps is my verdict.
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Post by: DaveR on April 29, 2014, 04:06:44 pm
Good to see that work has started to enlarge Kiddies Corner by clearing rocks from the section of beach by the Pier:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 29, 2014, 05:31:12 pm
It was fascinating to watch a professional at work.

DaveR, did you notice where the dumper truck was taking the rocks to be dumped?

After walking home along the promenade, am I correct in thinking the sailing club is having a brand new jetty built right in front of their existing clubhouse?
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Post by: norman08 on April 29, 2014, 05:41:55 pm
yes brian  a new concerete slipway watched them moving them rocks that they dumped ,piled high don,t know what they will do with them ,who is paying for this new slipway .
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Post by: Cambrian on April 29, 2014, 06:26:47 pm
Norm - I have heard that the rocks are going to be used to reinforce the sea defences below Craigside.
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Post by: bigbadhenry on April 30, 2014, 10:26:16 am
For those into photography (of which there are several here I am aware of), the well-known photographer Martin Parr came to Llandudno and has published a selection of his images on his website:

 http://www.martinparr.com/recent-work/recent-work-4/ (http://www.martinparr.com/recent-work/recent-work-4/)

He's a great photographer and often chronicles UK life in places like resorts and small towns and was particularly known for this in the 70s/80s.

Apologies if this has been previously posted.
My honest opinion is that any tourist with an iphone could take as good a photo as any of those posted. Not impressed at all, what do others think?

Agree, I was not impressd.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2014, 04:07:44 pm
This was a post I put on Oscar's Blog about the state of the town's green spaces:

"I wish Llandudno Town Council would step up and take over management (via contractors) of Happy Valley, Haulfre Gardens and the Prom Gardens etc. Standards presently, are far too low, and almost embarrassing in places. Other big seaside resorts make far more of an effort and pleasant public spaces are important to keep the visitors coming back."

Parts of the Prom gardens look terrible at the moment, filled with weeds or bare earth and dead plants. Is it too much to ask that they be tidied up ready for the Extravaganza? The gardens at Bog Island look very tatty as well. I do feel that motivated private contractors could do a far better job if given specific standards to adhere to.
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Post by: dwsi on April 30, 2014, 08:02:22 pm
Would it be better if local flower clubs/horticultural societies took over the flower beds?
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Post by: Nemesis on May 05, 2014, 05:40:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG59TK0d6lI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG59TK0d6lI)

Just in case anyone missed it !!!!
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Post by: Ian on May 05, 2014, 05:57:10 pm
Good turn out from the Victorian dressed folk, although it's a bit of a mystery to me what the balaclava-clad para-military was doing there. Liked the shot of Mike, grinning widely. All in all, another great event.  Well done wrex and the team behind it.
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2014, 07:51:41 pm
Good to see another successful Extravaganza. Well done to everyone involved in making it happen.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on May 05, 2014, 07:58:12 pm
 D Thank you
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Post by: Mikethewatch on May 05, 2014, 08:43:14 pm
Good to see another successful Extravaganza. Well done to everyone involved in making it happen.  $good$
Yes, although I missed most of it, the feedback I've heard has been once again very positive
Well done !
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Post by: Nemesis on May 06, 2014, 08:45:29 am
Seems most people enjoyed it.

 Mike--- I missed you, but from watching the video, I was nearly at the front and you were alot further back.

Now nursing blistered feet !! :-[
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Post by: Fester on May 06, 2014, 08:46:40 pm
Well done Nemesis and Mike for looking so great!   Also to Wrex for the passionate commitment and organisation.

It was an excellent event, and the weather was kind once again.

Just to echo Ian's point though, I am heartily sick of the sight of the gun-wielding Star Wars stormtroopers, in both the Extravaganza and the Xmas parades.  As for the masked gun-toting paramilitaries, (and the East German military guy in black, not shown on the video) I can't imagine what those idiots are thinking!!   Do they get off on it?
Nothing could be more inappropriate for a Victorian or Xmas parade, and as they strode around the pier later, those who weren't frightened of them merely passed the comment 'Disgusting'




 
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Post by: Michael on May 07, 2014, 09:45:21 pm
   Hello Nemesis, in reply yes I was towards the back, even further back on the Sunday and Monday because I kept clashing with a certain gentleman we all know, his companion in the pram escaped from the Mountain Zoo.
   I didn't particularly want to hear any comments like "Llandudnos got another nu---- now."
   In fairness to him what I saw of him in the parade, particularly on the Monday, he did seem a genuine attraction and raised a lot of laughter. What the band in very similar uniform thought of him tacking on behind I don't know.  Mike
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Post by: Nemesis on May 08, 2014, 08:31:25 am
Hi Mike, Yes I did spot the person you are mentioning-- in fact I did a double take as he seemed to be so near the band he looked part of it at times.!

Fester-- Thanks for your kind comments, I am still hobbling with toes full of blisters, OMG I could do with some new feet.

I agree about the military men, they were somewhat off-putting and not really in keeping. Having said that I suppose at least they turned up and swelled the numbers. Trouble is if people in the parade start being categorised alot of them wouldn't be in keeping. The storm troopers seem to have become part of any local event-- but I didn't seem to see as many. ???
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Post by: DaveR on May 08, 2014, 01:59:54 pm
I don't think the men dressed in sinister military gear were remotely suitable for that type of family parade. Why anyone apart from Andy McNab wannabes would want to dress up like that is beyond me.  &shake&
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Post by: Michael on May 08, 2014, 05:06:17 pm
I'm sorry Nemesis to hear about the sore feet. I could' to even offer you a lift on my crossbar because a penny farthing does'ent have one
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Post by: Nemesis on May 09, 2014, 08:46:49 am
 _))* _))* _))* Now That would have been a sight to behold !!!!
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2014, 03:13:24 pm
A heat wave is forecast, but CCBC have only just started painting the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don, so it looks as though all the families and kids will be out of luck this weekend. Same thing happens every year, why cannot it be ready for 1stMay?
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Post by: wrex on May 13, 2014, 05:19:54 pm
We can ask why next tuesday,please sir why do you cover the sand with stones then fail to open the paddling pool.
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Post by: FatAndy on May 14, 2014, 11:27:35 am
A heat wave is forecast, but CCBC have only just started painting the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don, so it looks as though all the families and kids will be out of luck this weekend.

According to Benhaz this morning the heatwave will have ended by the weekend  :(.
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Post by: Fester on May 14, 2014, 11:47:01 pm
A heat wave is forecast, but CCBC have only just started painting the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don, so it looks as though all the families and kids will be out of luck this weekend.

According to Benhaz this morning the heatwave will have ended by the weekend  :(.

Bennie is OK,  but Derek knows best... and he says upwards of 28% from Monday! $sunny$ $sunny$
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Post by: SDQ on May 15, 2014, 09:14:31 am
A heat wave is forecast, but CCBC have only just started painting the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don, so it looks as though all the families and kids will be out of luck this weekend.

According to Benhaz this morning the heatwave will have ended by the weekend  :(.

Bennie is OK,  but Derek knows best... and he says upwards of 28% from Monday! $sunny$ $sunny$


I disagree, Sue Charles for me!
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Post by: FatAndy on May 15, 2014, 09:18:19 am
Benhaz is now saying it will be nice on Saturday but cloudy on Sunday.  Which is fine by me as I'm being dragged to a Christening on Sunday so I'll be stuck indoors for most of the day  :(.
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Post by: wrex on May 15, 2014, 07:47:19 pm
Just been up the happy valley to see the laburnam arch,my god people say i have too much to say,who cares the place was like the wild valley,never have i seen the place looking so wild and unloved,what a disgrace and shame.
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Post by: wrex on May 15, 2014, 07:51:44 pm
Does anybody know if this kiddies corner is finished now or are they going to put sand there or leave it as a shingle sand beach.
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Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2014, 07:56:31 pm
I don't think CCBC knows let alone anyone else.     Another question to ask at the meeting on Tuesday perhaps?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 15, 2014, 09:18:57 pm
Just been up the happy valley to see the laburnam arch,my god people say i have too much to say,who cares the place was like the wild valley,never have i seen the place looking so wild and unloved,what a disgrace and shame.

Is the Friends of Happy Valley Group still in existence?
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Post by: Mikethewatch on May 15, 2014, 10:50:12 pm
Just been up the happy valley to see the laburnam arch,my god people say i have too much to say,who cares the place was like the wild valley,never have i seen the place looking so wild and unloved,what a disgrace and shame.
Have you been in the Haulfre 'gardens' lately?
Absolute disgrace, with weeds, uncut grass, generally looking very neglected

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Post by: Fester on May 15, 2014, 11:33:35 pm
Does anybody know if this kiddies corner is finished now or are they going to put sand there or leave it as a shingle sand beach.

Not putting sand there, its finished..... sand just gets washed away in days.   Rubbish innit?
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Post by: born2run on May 16, 2014, 02:24:50 pm
Ran through Conwy before and it looked like big piles of imported sand being put down  :o
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Post by: norman08 on May 18, 2014, 01:22:09 pm
went for a stroll on the prom last night walked back down mostyn street what a mess ,a saturday night and hardly a soul to be seen the place was filthy remember when the shops looked nice the paving slaps uneven and broken ,thought our councilors had set up a working party to see what requires doing. :rage:
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Post by: Nemesis on May 20, 2014, 04:16:57 pm
DONT FORGET THE MEETING . 7PM VENUE CYMRU. TONIGHT
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Post by: Fester on May 20, 2014, 06:59:45 pm
There seems to be very strong polarised views on the beach subject.   Verging on the extreme in many cases.

I never seem to meet anyone who has a middle of the road view.
I expect the VC meeting could be a highly charged atmosphere.

Many people (and I include several Forum members) have dropped by whilst I have been 'working' and have almost gone into a rant on the subject.    I'm not sure that anyone has sufficient information to feel so strongly.

One thing I am certain of, is that CCBC won't have sufficient funds to undo the recent work on North Shore.
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Post by: Yorkie on May 20, 2014, 07:49:32 pm
Whether we like it or not, I think that sea defence work on North Shore is essential, and the Central Government powers that be must have employed experienced sea defence engineers to suggest the method of so doing.   I have to rely on he experts and am generally happy to do so.

We have had floods in Llandudno in the past caused by ingress of the sea.  If we have them again, without the sea defences in place , the same people will then complain that the defences should have been built!   Damned if one does and damned if one doesn't.
 WWW  WWW  WWW
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Post by: wrex on May 20, 2014, 09:52:57 pm
Lots of people at the meeting,lots of interesting views,not sure what was achieved but at least we may get the beach cleaned.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 20, 2014, 09:58:05 pm
Congratulations to the Great Orme Family Golf for winning Trip Advisor’s 2014 Certificate of Excellence.  &well&
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Post by: llewelyn on May 20, 2014, 10:24:46 pm
What beach, feel depressed its like plaiting fog.................... ???
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Post by: Hugo on May 20, 2014, 10:34:45 pm
Whether we like it or not, I think that sea defence work on North Shore is essential, and the Central Government powers that be must have employed experienced sea defence engineers to suggest the method of so doing.   I have to rely on he experts and am generally happy to do so.

We have had floods in Llandudno in the past caused by ingress of the sea.  If we have them again, without the sea defences in place , the same people will then complain that the defences should have been built!   Damned if one does and damned if one doesn't.
 WWW  WWW  WWW

I suppose that they employed  experienced sea defence engineers for the West Shore too and just look what happened!     You mentioned that we have had floods in Llandudno in the past caused by ingress of the sea but I've lived in the area since 1946 and I can't remember any, but please correct me if I am wrong and the floods of 1993 were caused by a freak rainfall, not the sea.
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Post by: snowcap on May 20, 2014, 10:38:03 pm
just watched it on the news, any members on ?
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Post by: Yorkie on May 21, 2014, 08:10:33 am

I suppose that they employed  experienced sea defence engineers for the West Shore too and just look what happened!     You mentioned that we have had floods in Llandudno in the past caused by ingress of the sea but I've lived in the area since 1946 and I can't remember any, but please correct me if I am wrong and the floods of 1993 were caused by a freak rainfall, not the sea.

Not going to argue with a man who knows!   >>>
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Post by: Nemesis on May 21, 2014, 08:26:04 am
Ian Turner and Greg Robbins spoke well. I felt that the others seemed out of their depth faced with such a volume of angry people.
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Post by: suepp on May 21, 2014, 01:28:27 pm
Its a shame the work seemed to take the locals by surprise which suggests a lack of consultation or any  proposal of the alternatives. To me the work carried out seems to be enormously expensive as some sort of quick fix solution or a knee jerk response to  predictions of high tides to come
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Post by: born2run on May 21, 2014, 01:36:29 pm
So.... is anything at all going to come from the meeting? Or was it, as I suspect, a complete waste of time. Save for Ian Turner getting himself some more attention
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Post by: Ian on May 21, 2014, 01:45:57 pm
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Its a shame the work seemed to take the locals by surprise which suggests a lack of consultation or any  proposal of the alternatives.

It might be interesting to find out exactly who on CCBC was consulted, and who on CCBC was taken by surprise by the outcome.  It's been my experience that you'll often find those responsible for something claim they had "no idea it would be like that" after the event.
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Post by: FatAndy on May 21, 2014, 02:31:36 pm
So.... is anything at all going to come from the meeting? Or was it, as I suspect, a complete waste of time. Save for Ian Turner getting himself some more attention

I didn't go but I heard that Janet Finch-Useless also tried to turn the meeting into a "me me me" session.  If only she was as good at other things as she is at jumping on bandwagons  :(.

Personally I can understand why people aren't happy about what's happened to the beach but it's no great secret that the coast is gradually eroding right the way around the UK so somebody has to do something.  Much as I'd love to see a sandy beach today I'd much prefer that in years to come my children, grandchildren and so on have a bit of land on which to live.  It strikes me that a lot of these protesters are being somewhat selfish as let's face it most of them will be long gone by the time the real problems arise so why should they worry.  What a shame the likes of Ian Turner, Janet Finch-Useless, Guto Bebb et al don't stop burying their heads in the sand (*) and come up with some practical solutions given they all appear to be fully qualified experts in preventing coastal erosion.


(*- yes, I know.  It was intended  ;)).
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Post by: Quiggs on May 21, 2014, 03:28:09 pm
My grandfather once. Told me that the sea topped the west Shore and came down Gloddaeth Ave.  as far as Maelgwyn Rd.   :o
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Post by: suepp on May 21, 2014, 04:25:23 pm
I don't think the protesters are against Coastal defences, there are other ways to protect the coastline other than dumping stones
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on May 21, 2014, 04:36:34 pm
Quite correct Quiggs.  Once incident is referred to Chris Draper & John Lawson Reay's book "Llandudno through time" (2010).  There is a photo on page 94 showing Trinity Church surrounded by water on 30th October 1932.  They say "with high winds and stormy weather, as early as 9 am the tide had reached the promenade steps, by 10 am it was washing over the parade and by noon the wind was driving huge waves onto both north and west shores sending rivers of water into town and creating a huge lake around Trinity Church".  I am sure I remember something similar but on a smaller scale in the 60s which affected Gloddaeth Avenue perhaps someone else recalls this. On page 71, John also has a photo showing stones up to the level there are now but this must have been 4 years ago.

From what I have seen some folk now seem to deny there was ever any tidal flooding - though I did see parts of Craig y Don flooded in 1990 which coincided with the Towyn flood but never received the same media coverage.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 21, 2014, 05:03:17 pm
My grandfather once. Told me that the sea topped the west Shore and came down Gloddaeth Ave.  as far as Maelgwyn Rd.   :o

He was correct too Quiggs and it did that more than once.   I think the year was 1938 but the West Shore sea defence wasn't built until 1952 for some unknown reason!   
Llandudno did have problems with high tides but that seemed to come up from the drains as I found out to my cost when I ran down the steps to the Gents in bog island and jumped the last three steps only to land in about a foot of water!       :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 21, 2014, 05:37:52 pm
Llandudno 5 December 2013 - remember?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on May 21, 2014, 06:39:23 pm
I don't think the protesters are against Coastal defences, there are other ways to protect the coastline other than dumping stones

In that case perhaps the protesters could offer their own suggestions as to what should be done, i.e. take a positive approach to the problem rather than being so negative all the time.  Yes, it would be nice to have a bit of sand on the beach but not at the cost of the town disappearing beneath the waves somewhere down the line.  Personally I think Llandudno will at some point find itself under water whatever we do, sea levels are rising and the town is located on a very low, flat piece of land, but that's no excuse for not having a go at saving it.

Personally I suspect that the protest "leaders" are only interested in protecting their own commercial interests but they've have managed to hoodwink a mob of sheep to create a scene when required.   That might explain why so many of the protesters at VC last night were people from outside the area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 21, 2014, 07:40:38 pm
Not sure what interests Ian Turner is protecting but that beach is filthy and even the bit of sand we do have is never cleaned,how thick are we all that we can;t even be bothered to get CCBC TO CLEAN THE BIT OF SAND WE HAVE.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on May 21, 2014, 08:19:36 pm

In that case perhaps the protesters could offer their own suggestions as to what should be done, i.e. take a positive approach to the problem rather than being so negative all the time.  Yes, it would be nice to have a bit of sand on the beach but not at the cost of the town disappearing beneath the waves somewhere down the line.  Personally I think Llandudno will at some point find itself under water whatever we do, sea levels are rising and the town is located on a very low, flat piece of land, but that's no excuse for not having a go at saving it.

Personally I suspect that the protest "leaders" are only interested in protecting their own commercial interests but they've have managed to hoodwink a mob of sheep to create a scene when required.   That might explain why so many of the protesters at VC last night were people from outside the area.

No such consultation took place, perhaps CCC were arrogant enough to believe that the public would just accept the situation like a flock  of sheep.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 21, 2014, 08:26:22 pm
I have further evidence of Llandudno flooding from a note made by Mr R C Baxter, the founder of Clare's Departmental Store and a Alderman of  the Urban District Council.  He states that on the evening of 9th November 1927, "the sea came into Mostyn Street".

No doubt there are plenty more incidents either recorded or not!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on May 21, 2014, 08:32:25 pm
I think you are probably right Yorkie.  As I mentioned earlier if you look at John Lawson Reay's book the photo he shows from around 2010 is virtually no different to today's stones and he actually refers to them being dumped by the council.  I think the real issue is how the job was done now.  The original scheme involved the importation of the stone by barges at extra cost borne by the Welsh Office so there was no complaint about lorries and so on. The Welsh Office must have been happy with scheme at the time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 21, 2014, 09:18:39 pm
So.... is anything at all going to come from the meeting? Or was it, as I suspect, a complete waste of time. Save for Ian Turner getting himself some more attention

I didn't go but I heard that Janet Finch-Useless also tried to turn the meeting into a "me me me" session.  If only she was as good at other things as she is at jumping on bandwagons  :(.

Personally I can understand why people aren't happy about what's happened to the beach but it's no great secret that the coast is gradually eroding right the way around the UK so somebody has to do something.  Much as I'd love to see a sandy beach today I'd much prefer that in years to come my children, grandchildren and so on have a bit of land on which to live.  It strikes me that a lot of these protesters are being somewhat selfish as let's face it most of them will be long gone by the time the real problems arise so why should they worry.  What a shame the likes of Ian Turner, Janet Finch-Useless, Guto Bebb et al don't stop burying their heads in the sand (*) and come up with some practical solutions given they all appear to be fully qualified experts in preventing coastal erosion.


(*- yes, I know.  It was intended  ;)).

JFS wasn't allowed to speak.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 21, 2014, 11:51:59 pm
It has been said many times that the mistakes we make today, must be PAID FOR by our children, and our grandchildren in the future.

Personally I find that very reassuring, and a huge relief!     :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2014, 06:58:15 am
Nem you must have left early because JFS had a 10 minute slot about 9 and she did have a few good points.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on May 22, 2014, 08:38:19 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-fpTKtF0Y&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-fpTKtF0Y&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2014, 08:48:57 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-fpTKtF0Y&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-fpTKtF0Y&feature=youtu.be)
Very interesting. Ian spoke so well, I thought.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 22, 2014, 11:22:50 am
Nem you must have left early because JFS had a 10 minute slot about 9 and she did have a few good points.

My apologies-- Yes we left at about 5 to 9. She must have spoken as an 'audience member' I had expected her to be on the platform !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 22, 2014, 11:54:05 am
She was Nem (eventually) 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 22, 2014, 12:56:16 pm
I have further evidence of Llandudno flooding from a note made by Mr R C Baxter, the founder of Clare's Departmental Store and a Alderman of  the Urban District Council.  He states that on the evening of 9th November 1927, "the sea came into Mostyn Street".

No doubt there are plenty more incidents either recorded or not!   :D

He may well have meant this and I do now seem to remember some problem in Craig Y Don in 1990 when the Dwr Cymru were called out and traffic diverted but can't remember what actually caused the flooding.
Llandudno UDC as it was in the old days often caused problems for themselves by not taking any notice of any storm forecasts.  Along the Promenade at certain points there were gaps in the secondary sea defence, for example where the Lifeboat enters the Prom from Lloyd Street.  There was the facility to put planks across to save any water from the sea running down into Mostyn Street but I used to notice that in times of stormy weather they would often fail to put these planks in place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 22, 2014, 01:33:14 pm
1990 is a long way away from 1927, and I don't think the flooding lasted that long.

In a small book entitled Llandudno An Illustrated Miscellany there are a number of photographs shewing the beach, and in every one there is certainly more stones than sand!

If anyone has a copy of the DVD produced by Craig Ollerton, of old photographs of Llandudno etc., there are plenty of other similar illustrations.

 WWW  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 22, 2014, 01:42:52 pm
She was Nem (eventually)

Glad to hear it !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 22, 2014, 02:49:47 pm
They have built a small wall since so no water can run off the prom
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 22, 2014, 02:56:45 pm
Where?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 22, 2014, 03:22:59 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-fpTKtF0Y&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85-fpTKtF0Y&feature=youtu.be)
Very interesting. Ian spoke so well, I thought.  $good$

That actually was very interesting.

Few questions.

Why was nobody sitting anywhere near their name cards?!
and why was football manager Harry Redknapp up on the stage talking about sea defences?  :laugh:

Seriously though, whoever is right or wrong, and I would love a sandy beach. The meeting (or at least those highlights) seemed nothing more than a baying lynch mob, after blood! Only one person from the audience was brave enough to go against the tide (see what I did there?  _))*) and he was roundly shouted down.

This meeting although interesting was utterly and completely pointless, talk about bolting the door after the horse had bolted. This horse has bolted and won the grand national! Not only did they decide what to do in their council meeting, it has been DONE! The rocks are there, as much as it's pains me to agree with a Tory JFS is correct, they aren't going anywhere, it cost 1.5 million pounds for goodness sake!!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on May 22, 2014, 05:21:56 pm
Hugo - your photo is the one that Draper and Lawson-Reay caption as 1932 so not the same as the R C Baxter flood.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 22, 2014, 08:06:47 pm
Hugo - your photo is the one that Draper and Lawson-Reay caption as 1932 so not the same as the R C Baxter flood.

That's a coincidence then Cambrian because the Llandudno Advertiser reported that the Chairman of the Council Mr R C Baxter was driving past the Church when his engine died and he had to be rescued from the flood by another motorist.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on May 22, 2014, 08:29:19 pm
The Public meeting for the most part was very well behaved and the vast majority of us listened to all that was said from both sides. I was in the third row from the front and didn't hear any baying lynch mob or any one being roundly shouted down, unlike a certain Lifeboat meeting I went to a few years ago.

However the next meeting would be better served by having a totally independent Chairperson, as that cannot be said of our Police Superintendent Simon Humphreys, who was most certainly in the pocket of Council Leader Geraint Edwards, hence the number of Councillors who were selected "totally at random" from the assembly to speak. In fact it became so apparent, he ended up asking them to stop and sit down.

Also if you watch the Youtube clip when Janet Finch-Saunders is addressing the meeting, you can clearly see Geraint Edwards telling Simon Humphreys to end the meeting to prevent her speaking. I was there and heard it said for myself and it was only when the floor demanded that she be allowed to speak (edited out of the clip) that she was able to continue.

We were told by Simon Humphreys that the latest topping off of the stones to replenish the sea defences ( 50,000 tons) was to restore the beach profile to its original specification after 70% of those stones had been lost over the last decade. Well Mr Humphreys, Figures speak louder than words. The original sea defences plan including consultancy fees costs £1,048,410.05 to complete. If the Beach Profile has been restored to that original Profile and with Locally sourced stone, why did it cost £1,500,000 this time around? Something doesn't add up.

The £1,500,000 came from the W.A.G. by way of emergency funding, to repair damage caused by last winters storms. 2 days of rough seas on the North Shore that put a pile of stones into the Paddling Pool at Graig-y-Don does not add up to emergence storm damage. During those Storm that so crippled the West of the Country the North Shore was flatter than a pancake. How much has been allocated to repair Deganwy Promenade and shouldn't that work have been given Priority as it was actually damaged by those storms.

Sorry for going on a such length but just let me say to finish, The stones are not the answer to Llandudno's sea defence requirements. So far they have cost  £1,048,410.05 to install plus £405,233 to maintain and £1,500,000 to replenish (All figures provided by CCBC FOI 6972-14)   



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 22, 2014, 08:57:18 pm
Hugo - your photo is the one that Draper and Lawson-Reay caption as 1932 so not the same as the R C Baxter flood.

That's a coincidence then Cambrian because the Llandudno Advertiser reported that the Chairman of the Council Mr R C Baxter was driving past the Church when his engine died and he had to be rescued from the flood by another motorist.

Mr Baxter did, of course, live in the area for many years and could therefore have been involved with many incidents.  On the evening of the 1927 incident he was, in fact, attending a Ladies Evening for the St Tudno's Lodge, at the Imperial Hotel.   His note is on a copy of the Evening's Menu.   ZXZ


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on May 22, 2014, 09:36:02 pm
For heavens sake 1927/1932 was over 80 years ago. Over the years how many times has the town been flooded ?
The lunatics are taking over the asylum forcing all these panic measures on Llandudno, and the rest of the UK.
Just stand back a while and ask yourselves who is making money out of all these panic measures and you might see what is driving all this hysteria. Storms from North and West have been happening in Llandudno for centuries and adoption of sensible measures such as planks  to fill the gaps in the seawalls ,as Hugo mentions, is the answer, even if the walls have to be raised  a metre or so.
Just dumping stones on the beach is not the answer, they will all be washed away within a year or two,then what next ?

In the meantime a lovely seaside resort is being ruined, and remember if the visitors don't like it they will find somewere else to visit and spend their money.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 23, 2014, 07:57:53 am
I wasn't at the meeting, but the comment made by a friend who was (and whose opinion I trust) was interesting.  He stated that the town councillors spoke extremely well and came over equally as well, while the CCBC team came over as arrogant, dismissive and confrontational.

 
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The lunatics are taking over the asylum forcing all these panic measures on Llandudno, and the rest of the UK...Storms from North and West have been happening in Llandudno for centuries and adoption of sensible measures such as planks  to fill the gaps in the seawalls ,as Hugo mentions, is the answer

Perhaps, but you haven't factored in Climate change. We know that the climate is warming globally, we know that CO2 has increased from 300ppm at the start of the Industrial Revolution to 400ppm now and we know that the incidence of extreme weather events has been increasing globally for some time. Put simply we can expect more major storms, stronger winds, higher tides and consequent damage in the coming years, and that's without considering the ramifications of the increasingly severe ice-loss in Greenland and Antarctica to sea levels.

It's actually a very simple equation: Earth's atmosphere only became breathable by humans and other mammals because plants had been absorbing CO2 for millions of years and locking it away underground in coal and oil. As we - as a species - now compete to see who can extract the most and release it back into the atmosphere in a few hundred years we can confidently expect the climate to become more violent and unpredictable and - almost as a side issue - the air to become less breathable.

Against that starkly worrying backdrop, what CCBC's done to the beach sort of pales into insignificance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 23, 2014, 09:32:14 am
EXACTLY!      WWW

What we need are false beaches on inland lakes.   No flooding problems, kids can build sand castles, pensioners can paddle, vendors can sell ice cream and no-one has to wait for time nor tide! 

Or is that a daft idea?  Not really there are such places already! 

Ruislip lido
It claims to be the ‘only beach in London’ as it’s just 15 miles from the capital and set in woodland.  A former reservoir converted to a lido in the 1930s, facilities include a sandy beach and splash pad area with water fountains for the kids, along with toilets and changing rooms.

When you’ve had your picnic you can board the lido train for a two mile trip round the lake. If you go by public transport it’s a short walk from Northwood Hill tube station or you can get a bus. If you’re driving there’s plenty of free parking plus entry to the lido is free.

The Warren Beach, Hay-on-Wye
If you like your beaches secluded then this one’s for you. The Warren is a pebble beach on the banks of the River Wye, near Hay on Wye on the Welsh border.

It can get packed during the world famous Hay literary festival and you’ve got to make an effort to find this one as it’s only accessible by footpaths from the local lanes, like the one next to Warren Close in the west end of Hay. The area is actually privately owned by the local community who bought it around thirty years ago to stop a proposed caravan park going ahead but anyone can visit.

Frensham Great Pond, Surrey
Frensham’s sandy beaches have been the location for many a film over the years.  The common itself is owned by the National Trust and among the woodland there are two ponds - Frensham Great and Little ponds. 

The area is primarily a nature reserve so rules are strict. No dogs are allowed on the beach, no barbeques or camping and although there’s a ranger on duty at weekends there are no lifeguards, so take care if you’re going swimming.  Head to Farnham to discover this beach and take a bus from Farnham station. For drivers there’s a car park on site which charges £2.50 on weekends and bank holidays.

Loch Lomond, Scotland
For natural unspoilt sandy beaches head for Luss and Milarrochy Bay on the banks of Loch Lomond, around twenty minutes from Glasgow airport. Luss is on the west side of the Loch with nothing more than a car park but you can easily head into the village to pick up drinks and supplies. At Milarrochy you’ll find toilets and changing facilities.

The waters of Loch Lomond are great for a paddle but swimming isn’t recommended as it’s a glacial lake which means it’s very deep and likely to be freezing cold all year round.

Cotswold Country Park & Beach, Gloucestershire
For the ultimate family friendly inland beach try this one with long stretches of sand, a beach café and shop for last minute buckets and spades. Cotswold Water Park is the largest inland paddling beach in the UK and even at its deepest point the water’s only waist deep, making it ideal for families.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: dingo20 on May 23, 2014, 09:32:35 am
Is the Airshow still on this weekend I've been told it might be cancelled because of the bad weather?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on May 23, 2014, 09:48:26 am
I wasn't at the meeting, but the comment made by a friend who was (and whose opinion I trust) was interesting.  He stated that the town councillors spoke extremely well and came over equally as well, while the CCBC team came over as arrogant, dismissive and confrontational.

I think you have to factor in human nature there.  People tend to think anyone who shares their own opinions will have spoken well whereas those they don't agree will have been arrogant, dismissive and confrontational.  That's politics for you.  I'm sure that there were some people at the meeting who thought the exact opposite to what your friend did, and indeed I've spoken to at least one person present who was far from impressed with Ian Turner's performance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 23, 2014, 10:13:28 am
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I think you have to factor in human nature there.  People tend to think anyone who shares their own opinions will have spoken well whereas those they don't agree will have been arrogant, dismissive and confrontational.

Well, as I say I wasn't there, so can't judge.  Does anyone else have a view?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 23, 2014, 12:00:19 pm

However the next meeting would be better served by having a totally independent Chairperson, as that cannot be said of our Police Superintendent Greg Robbins, who was most certainly in the pocket of Council Leader Geraint Edwards, hence the number of Councillors who were selected "totally at random" from the assembly to speak. In fact it became so apparent, he ended up asking them to stop and sit down.

Also if you watch the Youtube clip when Janet Finch-Saunders is addressing the meeting, you can clearly see Geraint Edwards telling Greg Robbins to end the meeting to prevent her speaking. I was there and heard it said for myself and it was only when the floor demanded that she be allowed to speak (edited out of the clip) that she was able to continue.

We were told by Simon Humphreys that the latest topping off of the stones to replenish the sea defences ( 50,000 tons) was to restore the beach profile to its original specification after 70% of those stones had been lost over the last decade. Well Mr Humphreys, Figures speak louder than words. The original sea defences plan including consultancy fees costs £1,048,410.05 to complete. If the Beach Profile has been restored to that original Profile and with Locally sourced stone, why did it cost £1,500,000 this time around? Something doesn't add up.


As I said about people not sitting near their name cards - I think you may have mixed up a couple
The Police Superintendant was Simon Humphreys (who it looked to me to be chairing the meeting)
Greg Robbins was the guy in the suit with a beard - who I think was on Ian Turner's side wasn't he?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 23, 2014, 12:02:38 pm
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I think you have to factor in human nature there.  People tend to think anyone who shares their own opinions will have spoken well whereas those they don't agree will have been arrogant, dismissive and confrontational.

Well, as I say I wasn't there, so can't judge.  Does anyone else have a view?

As I said a guy in a suit stood up from the audience - started to make some good points about flooding and was shouted down by both the audience and the people on stage opposed to his views.

Not cordial at all in a meeting or respectful, having attended thousands of meetings myself, in that situation I would have walked out.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 23, 2014, 12:07:40 pm
But did you detect any difference between Llandudno TCs and CCBCs?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 23, 2014, 12:56:39 pm
Cll Bertola stood up and congratulated CCBC on their good work and seemed to be against Ian Turner,not sure if Ian upset Brian when he was on the council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on May 23, 2014, 12:58:16 pm

As I said about people not sitting near their name cards - I think you may have mixed up a couple
The Police Superintendant was Simon Humphreys (who it looked to me to be chairing the meeting)
Greg Robbins was the guy in the suit with a beard - who I think was on Ian Turner's side wasn't he?

You are so right born2run, I have mixed them up and I apologise unreservedly to Cllr Greg Robbins for my mistake. I have also asked for my post to be amended. Thanks again for pointing out my error.  $thanx$

I've amended your post, B.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 23, 2014, 01:26:54 pm
Cll Bertola stood up and congratulated CCBC on their good work and seemed to be against Ian Turner,not sure if Ian upset Brian when he was on the council.

I don't know that person though I have heard of them from the Oscar blog - where abouts is it in the film? I'd like to see. Thanks
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 23, 2014, 01:28:18 pm

As I said about people not sitting near their name cards - I think you may have mixed up a couple
The Police Superintendant was Simon Humphreys (who it looked to me to be chairing the meeting)
Greg Robbins was the guy in the suit with a beard - who I think was on Ian Turner's side wasn't he?

You are so right born2run, I have mixed them up and I apologise unreservedly to Cllr Greg Robbins for my mistake. I have also asked for my post to be amended. Thanks again for pointing out my error.  $thanx$

No worries  :) As I said it's odd nobody was near their name cards, it confused me as well, I only noticed because I know Simon and Greg in person
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 23, 2014, 06:37:40 pm
I think we have too admit Llandudno will never be as vibrant as it was for the youngsters,all nite spots have gone,no gigs in Venue Cymru Arena and no real decent pubs for youngsters.Now as i get older it should;nt really bother me,but it does,i remember outside Fountains being packed and the buzz you could hearfrom Hoosons corner,i ain;t seen it busy for a couple of years,not sure where the youth of Conwy Borough go these days but it ain;t Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on May 23, 2014, 07:45:19 pm
Is the Airshow still on this weekend I've been told it might be cancelled because of the bad weather?

If it is cancelled do not worry as the paddling pool in C-Y-D has clean water in it now for everyone to use. This evening no one appeared to be taking advantage of it.....so the council appear to have wasted our money again as various people wanted it filled for the May Day weekend!!   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on May 23, 2014, 07:54:57 pm
i thought it was the camera angles that made the names look out of place Btr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cordyline on May 23, 2014, 09:22:31 pm
Man spent night on roof

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-spent-night-roof-7163223 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-spent-night-roof-7163223)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 23, 2014, 10:02:49 pm
Man spent night on roof

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-spent-night-roof-7163223 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-spent-night-roof-7163223)

Fool
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 23, 2014, 11:29:52 pm
Man spent night on roof

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-spent-night-roof-7163223 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-spent-night-roof-7163223)

Fool
Agreed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 24, 2014, 05:24:12 am
Send him the bill for the emergency services time!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 24, 2014, 08:44:27 am
It reads as though he was supposed to be detained when he came down the first time ( for his own safety I would have thought), but the family said that they would care for him. Next thing he is back up there--- for the night.  Some care !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on May 24, 2014, 10:17:42 am
If I was going to sleep on the roof I'd have waited for the rain to clear first.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 24, 2014, 10:36:20 am
If I was going to sleep on the roof I'd have waited for the rain to clear first.

 :laugh: good advice!  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 24, 2014, 10:39:22 am
Tricky.  He's clearly mentally ill, but if he's never shown signs of violence committal will be viewed as extreme.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 24, 2014, 02:35:15 pm
. Storms from North and West have been happening in Llandudno for centuries and adoption of sensible measures such as planks  to fill the gaps in the seawalls ,as Hugo mentions, is the answer, even if the walls have to be raised  a metre or so.
Just dumping stones on the beach is not the answer, they will all be washed away within a year or two,then what next ?

In the meantime a lovely seaside resort is being ruined, and remember if the visitors don't like it they will find somewere else to visit and spend their money.

The system I referred to was not as primitive as it seemed.   Either side of the gaps were pillars purposefully built with a groove down the side so that in times of storms these planks could be dropped in, in order to prevent any sea water from cascading down into Mostyn Street.
I went past yesterday and these gaps now have small hinged metal gates fixed to the pillars and the gates  are discretely positioned behind the seats and they will be closed as and when required.
What hasn't been explained to people is why they were able to import sand onto the West Shore for a sea defence  but now they cannot import sand onto the North Shore.     They say the sand will shift, well it has on the West Shore as it is half way down Abbey Road!      The North Shore and Colwyn Bay are both northerly facing but they have two different types of sea defences, one of quarry rubble and one of imported sand which doesn't make any sense at all.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on May 24, 2014, 04:32:17 pm
We popped up to the in-laws this afternoon to watch the airshow.  I know it was never going to be a patch on the Rhyl Airshow but what and absolute disaster it turned out to be  :(.  We spent most of the afternoon watching the continuous exodus of cars from Bodafon fields and odd passing formation of Herring Gulls.  Finally the aerobatic team showed up so we watched them then joined the exodus and went home ourselves.  I feel really sorry for those people who traveled from afar and wasted a lot of time and money getting here for next to nothing.  Someone should have done the decent thing and called the event off yesterday to save so much disappointment.  I suspect if they try to put on a show next year a lot of people won't bother turning up again.

On the plus side it was nice to see so much sand on the beach once the tide started to go out after being told that there wasn't any, and we've always got Rhyl to look forward to in August.  Hopefully some of those people who were left so disappointed today will have a better experience there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on May 24, 2014, 07:24:11 pm
Maybe they should have moved the air show indoors due to the poor weather?  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 24, 2014, 11:20:25 pm
I thought the pilots did fantastically well, considering the appalling (and probably dangerous) weather.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on May 26, 2014, 12:54:31 am

I know it was never going to be a patch on the Rhyl Airshow but what and absolute disaster it turned out to be.
 
I suspect if they try to put on a show next year a lot of people won't bother turning up again.

On the plus side it was nice to see so much sand on the beach once the tide started to go out after being told that there wasn't any

we've always got Rhyl to look forward to in August.  Hopefully some of those people who were left so disappointed today will have a better experience there.

The Organisers of the Air Show have no control over the weather and they are rather reluctant to risk losing a £60,000,000 Hurricane just to keep you and a few other people happy FatAndy.  As to next year we will just have to see which way the wind blows.

By the way it has been known for it to rain in Rhyl in August and if there is as much bad weather between Rhyl and RAF Coningsby they wont risk the aircraft then either.

As to all the lovely sand you mentioned it's useable for approximately 2 hours either side of low tide but not to worry as I'm sure the sand in Rhyl is much softer and a yellower than ours.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on May 26, 2014, 10:15:40 am

I know it was never going to be a patch on the Rhyl Airshow but what and absolute disaster it turned out to be.
 
I suspect if they try to put on a show next year a lot of people won't bother turning up again.

On the plus side it was nice to see so much sand on the beach once the tide started to go out after being told that there wasn't any

we've always got Rhyl to look forward to in August.  Hopefully some of those people who were left so disappointed today will have a better experience there.

The Organisers of the Air Show have no control over the weather and they are rather reluctant to risk losing a £60,000,000 Hurricane just to keep you and a few other people happy FatAndy.  As to next year we will just have to see which way the wind blows.

By the way it has been known for it to rain in Rhyl in August and if there is as much bad weather between Rhyl and RAF Coningsby they wont risk the aircraft then either.

As to all the lovely sand you mentioned it's useable for approximately 2 hours either side of low tide but not to worry as I'm sure the sand in Rhyl is much softer and a yellower than ours.

It's not me I'm concerned about.  I watched from the comfort of my in-laws house and didn't have to travel miles to get there.  I'm more concerned with the people who no doubt travelled from Liverpool, Manchester and possibly further afield to stand around in the torrential rain on the off chance something might happen and who will no doubt have spent a great deal of money doing so.  I doubt they'll have trudged back down the A55 with positive memories of Llandudno or any great desire to return.  What the organisers should have done was checked the weather forecast and called the event off early enough to ensure all those people didn't waste their time and money.  The weather was hardly unexpected so can't claim to have been caught by surprise.  In any case who organises an airshow outside the Red Arrows season.  It's one thing to watch an old Brazilian Air Force trainer puttering about but that's not what people attending an air show really want to see.  All in all the event was a complete PR disaster for Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on May 26, 2014, 11:00:30 am
2nd May Bank Holiday is always a bit of a let down and that's partly due to timing. There is only one pay packet in every month and due to Monday falling so early this year on the 26th, it's still a week to go until next pay day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on May 26, 2014, 11:16:15 am
2nd May Bank Holiday is always a bit of a let down and that's partly due to timing. There is only one pay packet in every month and due to Monday falling so early this year on the 26th, it's still a week to go until next pay day.


So the whole world is paid monthly & on the same day of the month???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 26, 2014, 11:42:33 am

So the whole world is paid monthly & on the same day of the month???

I am paid every 4 weeks, as is the Mrs, by courtesy of HM Pensions.  I am also paid every 3 months from another pension.  So, the asnswer to your question is ,"No".    WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on May 26, 2014, 11:46:01 am

So the whole world is paid monthly & on the same day of the month???

I am paid every 4 weeks, as is the Mrs, by courtesy of HM Pensions.  I am also paid every 3 months from another pension.  So, the asnswer to your question is ,"No".    WWW


Err, it was a rhetorical question!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 26, 2014, 01:26:06 pm
And to a degree so was my answer!     ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 26, 2014, 07:05:01 pm
2nd May Bank Holiday is always a bit of a let down and that's partly due to timing. There is only one pay packet in every month and due to Monday falling so early this year on the 26th, it's still a week to go until next pay day.


So the whole world is paid monthly & on the same day of the month???

SDQ, A significant number of people ARE paid on the last Friday of the month.  It is commonplace in large employers (NHS, banks, retailers etc)
Trust me when I say that is has a BIG effect on people's spending ability, and traders takings, especially for non-essential items like gifts at the seaside.  :( :(

It is measureable, recordable and forecastable every year.    Can't wait for next week!   $hands$ $hands$

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 27, 2014, 10:23:56 am
Man spent night on roof

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-spent-night-roof-7163223 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-spent-night-roof-7163223)

Fool
Agreed.

Nobody called the Drifters fools  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 28, 2014, 08:11:54 pm
Sorry im always seem to be negative but please explain to me what the point of clearing this kiddies corner,seriously i can;t see what the point was,and now the sand is covered in stone and not one person gives a fig.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 28, 2014, 09:51:34 pm
Sorry im always seem to be negative but please explain to me what the point of clearing this kiddies corner,seriously i can;t see what the point was,and now the sand is covered in stone and not one person gives a fig.

I was wondering the same, when the work was actually being done!  It looks rubbish really.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 28, 2014, 10:28:21 pm
Is this the first of many accidents?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-children-hurt-north-shore-7185523#.U4ZUgVBjOhM.email (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-children-hurt-north-shore-7185523#.U4ZUgVBjOhM.email)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on May 29, 2014, 02:29:28 am
Is this the first of many accidents?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-children-hurt-north-shore-7185523#.U4ZUgVBjOhM.email (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-children-hurt-north-shore-7185523#.U4ZUgVBjOhM.email)

First of many? possibly........if you are stupid enough to send your kids on "dangerous rocks", then hey, expect to get hurt.
For the safety of all, lets ban everybody from going.....up Snowden, just in case they fall off and hurt themselves....or in the sea...or in cars, or from getting out of bed every morning in case of accidents.

All this moaning about the beach is getting tiresome.
Quit bitching and accept flood defenses.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 29, 2014, 07:27:40 am
Sorry im not moaning about the sea defence im moaning about the very small bit of beach that is left,never cleaned and covered now in small stones,CCBC get of your back sides and clear the small patch of sand we have left.I just wish i could do photos so i could show what i mean.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 29, 2014, 12:32:36 pm
Sorry im not moaning about the sea defence im moaning about the very small bit of beach that is left,never cleaned and covered now in small stones,CCBC get of your back sides and clear the small patch of sand we have left.I just wish i could do photos so i could show what i mean.

I'm not sure what you mean. I was running along the prom yesterday I didn't notice any patches of sand apart from some that were near the pier where a family were playing cricket which I thought was rather nice
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 29, 2014, 05:06:30 pm
Lucky for you that you did not have time to see the mess as you where running
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on May 29, 2014, 06:45:56 pm
Sorry im not moaning about the sea defence im moaning about the very small bit of beach that is left,never cleaned and covered now in small stones,CCBC get of your back sides and clear the small patch of sand we have left.I just wish i could do photos so i could show what i mean.

The whole exercise was secretly named "let's send all the holiday makers to Colwyn Bay where we have given them a giant wheelbarrow, sans wheel, and dumped loads and loads of sand for the kids to bury their uncles in."    :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 02, 2014, 10:56:43 am
Looks to have been a car crash by Bog Island, a section of pavement is taped off:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 02, 2014, 12:42:24 pm
Lucky for you that you did not have time to see the mess as you where running

wrex, we sat on a prom bench yesterday when the tide was quite high up on Childrens’ Corner and there was just a small section of the beach available for public use.

It didn’t take long to understand the problem you are highlighting.

Families were sitting on the beach but their children had to walk across shingle to enter the water.

That was in front of them but then behind then came the donkey man with a few donkeys.

He had very little room to operate but he managed to thread a path through from the slipway over to the jetty.

He had 100% occupancy on his first run but there was only 50% occupancy on his second and none after that so he seemed to pack up and disappear.

BTW, during his first run it was noticeable a few families reluctantly had to physically move forward and out of his way.




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on June 02, 2014, 08:52:15 pm
Looks to have been a car crash by Bog Island, a section of pavement is taped off:

Have a look at the safety railings by the pedestrian crossing outside Sainsburys, that's had a good wallop  as well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 04, 2014, 08:20:25 pm
  Driving in Llandudno today I just saw, in the corner of my eye, a sign saying, I think "Down the Rabbit Hole, opening shortly." Or words to that effect.
  It was a large sign situated more or less where the original down the rabbit hole used to exist.
   Anyone else seen it or heard about it?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 04, 2014, 08:22:42 pm
I think it belongs to the disabled group upstairs on the same grounds as the Cafe cais.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on June 04, 2014, 08:39:41 pm
I think it belongs to the disabled group upstairs on the same grounds as the Cafe cais.
Being run by 'Mind' mental health charity .
From the rumours I've heard it looks like its going to be a high quality heath food cafe.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 06, 2014, 10:44:51 pm
Some photos from the Three Castles Trial this morning, the Ferrari was stunning, I looked up the value of it when I returned home, around £2,500,000 ! A great chap that owned it too!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 06, 2014, 10:46:36 pm
A few more, stunning pre war Alfa Romeo!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 07, 2014, 05:57:45 am
Nice pics.

See what happens when you don’t use a proper roof rack.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 07, 2014, 07:01:27 am
Nice pics.

See what happens when you don’t use a proper roof rack.

 :laugh: I did think that the Mad Hatter would be too heavy for the car!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 07, 2014, 09:05:53 pm
The Ferrari. Two and a half million? Maybe a nought or two too many or I must be completely out of touch with present day values
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 07, 2014, 09:10:26 pm
A really mint condition one would fetch 3 or 4 million pounds!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 08, 2014, 10:42:51 am
Walked along Bryniau rd this morning then across the oval,all i can say it looked disgracefull.Bryniau rd verges must be over a foot long and the oval just uncut,biggest mistake letting the cricket club cut their own grass because CCBC never turn up now.CCBC have decided to stuff looking after gardens and beach which is what Llandudno needs to look aDECENT tourism destination so all that rubbish from the lady in the protest meeting telling us tourism is important toCCBC WAS A LIE.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 08, 2014, 11:03:04 am
Wrexham you interest me here. quote "letting the cricket club cut their own grass." I assume that the club has a type of lease for the land from the council. If not I.e. They own the land, I don't see they need permission to do anything from anybody.
  But surely they are only doing good by looking after it in any case. I doubt very much if they need "permission" even if the council do own the land. That's what the club exists for, to look after the grounds.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 08, 2014, 11:29:15 am
The new slipway being built for the sailing club looks like a massive construction job.

Does anyone know how much it is going to cost and who is paying for it?

Also, how many sailing boats are likely to use it on a regular basis?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 08, 2014, 01:13:55 pm
well said wrex it is a disgrace ,ormegolf the cricket club lease the oval off the council ,but they only look after the playing area as wrex says the rest is a mess,  bri i am asking the same who is paying for that major slipway the one that will be used for about 3 months of the year .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 08, 2014, 04:40:27 pm
well said wrex it is a disgrace ,ormegolf the cricket club lease the oval off the council ,but they only look after the playing area as wrex says the rest is a mess,  bri i am asking the same who is paying for that major slipway the one that will be used for about 3 months of the year .

What I wonder is WHO will be allowed to use it?

I went to The Skip last week end and particularly wished to get to the slipway.  My progress was thwarted by a multitude of cones and Hitler type Council and Security people telling me that only the Colwyn Bay Water Ski Club were allowed both car parking and use of that area!

So apparently we have funded the CBWSC facilities and Joe Soap, who helped pay for it, has no right of access whatsoever.  Or can you tell us something different Mr Harbourmaster?

As far as the Oval is concerned, this surely is Common Land, having been established by tradition and use!   Just place your deck chair at Silly Mid off and tell them where to stick their stumps! 

I do believe that a few Council employees are connected with both clubs!  As Dudley Moore would have said,"Funny, funny!".    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 08, 2014, 05:59:59 pm
Yorkie, it is no different here in Craig-y-Don with the Community Centre.

There are no toilets any longer in the park across the road but the general public are not allowed to use the toilet facilities inside the Community Centre or park a car in their car park.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 08, 2014, 07:16:22 pm
Yorkie, it is no different here in Craig-y-Don with the Community Centre.

There are no toilets any longer in the park across the road but the general public are not allowed to use the toilet facilities inside the Community Centre or park a car in their car park.

Perhaps something that could be taken up with Councillor Christine Rees Jones who was a priime mover in getting the Grant for the improvements?    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 08, 2014, 08:53:29 pm
Except CR Jones is no longer Cllr CR Jones.

Are you beginning to lose it, Yorkie?  :o

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on June 08, 2014, 09:06:47 pm
Except CR Jones is no longer Cllr CR Jones.

Are you beginning to lose it, Yorkie?  :o

Long time since I left the Council and just not up to date.  Must ask Tessa for an up to date list, or have a look at the web site, if it is operational!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 09, 2014, 09:04:03 am
I noticed over the weekend that the large rectangular flower beds on either side of the Cenotaph have been filled with perennials - no more colourful displays on the Prom for our visitors!  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 09, 2014, 09:06:22 am
Long time since I left the Council and just not up to date.  Must ask Tessa for an up to date list, or have a look at the web site, if it is operational!   :D

When you do, Yorkie, I suggest you remind her to change the names of the town mayor and deputy mayor on their website.

Do you know Llandudno Town Council donates £500 or £600 to premises that allow the general public to use their toilet facilities?

I cannot understand why a publically-funded community centre is allowed to restrict the use of its toilet facilities to patrons only and bar the general public from using them.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 09, 2014, 09:39:55 am
talking about toilets and the council paying different places to let the public use i went to use them in the town hall ,yes they were locked ,iv,e just found that the merion hotel is in the scheme bet nobody knows that .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 09, 2014, 10:00:33 am
Quote
v,e just found that the merion hotel is in the scheme bet nobody knows that

That's the big problem.  The Vic centre loos are free to use by the public, but the notice saying that is fastened to the toilet doors, first floor, inside the centre. By the time you've made that journey, you're about the use the toilets, anyway, so a notice telling you that you can is ludicrous. The council ought to have ensured that places which are part of the scheme display notices outside their premises.

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 09, 2014, 10:58:22 am
How many council tax payers are aware that Llandudno Pier receives two sets of payments because they have two sets of toilet facilites?

I can understand places like the Meirrion Hotel and Tribells receiving £600 because they have customer toilets for customers but places like the Pier (2) and the Victorial Centre !!

M&S have toilets for customers but I do not see them claiming £600.

If every business in Llandudno with toilets claimed £600, there would be no money left for the annual Xmas decorations.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on June 09, 2014, 11:00:43 am
Walked along Bryniau rd this morning then across the oval,all i can say it looked disgracefull.Bryniau rd verges must be over a foot long and the oval just uncut,biggest mistake letting the cricket club cut their own grass because CCBC never turn up now.CCBC have decided to stuff looking after gardens and beach which is what Llandudno needs to look aDECENT tourism destination so all that rubbish from the lady in the protest meeting telling us tourism is important toCCBC WAS A LIE.

That's interesting because I go to the conwy cricket park often and the CCBC tractor is there almost everyday cutting the grass
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 09, 2014, 11:41:38 am
where is the conwy cricket park born to run .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on June 09, 2014, 12:22:53 pm
Yorkie, it is no different here in Craig-y-Don with the Community Centre.

There are no toilets any longer in the park across the road but the general public are not allowed to use the toilet facilities inside the Community Centre or park a car in their car park.

Who owns the lawn grass there? Is it privately owned by the 'croquet' club or is it public land?
Same question if anyone knows with the lawn on West Shore where they put the crazy golf.
If they're both privately owned then there isn't a decent bit of grass in Llandudno that I can think off that is for public use
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on June 09, 2014, 12:25:16 pm
where is the conwy cricket park born to run .

Bodlonded field, the Grass up there is very nice and well cut. There is only a small section roped off that the public can't use and I think that's going back to the damage done a while ago with that music festival
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 09, 2014, 01:28:42 pm
Who owns the lawn grass there? Is it privately owned by the 'croquet' club or is it public land?
 

The lawn grass in the park is cut by Conwy County Borough Council.

The croquet club next to the community centre are using the bowling green that is owned by Conwy County Borough Council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on June 09, 2014, 02:50:40 pm
So is the green only for the croquet club or can anyone use it?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 09, 2014, 03:01:59 pm
When not in use I would think anybody can use it but I am not the one to ask.

In the winter, the bowling green is used for winter bowling.

In the summer, if I wanted to play bowls I would probably want to pay to play on the other bowling green which is in a far better condition.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 09, 2014, 08:56:08 pm
Hello born2run. Must just point out that the grass at the west shore is a putting green, not a crazy golf. We are very picky people, us golf operators!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 13, 2014, 06:14:07 pm
5pm this evening on Kiddies Corner:  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 13, 2014, 09:03:31 pm
Thank god they are cleaning the beach a bit more regular x
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 15, 2014, 09:53:08 am
How about a Restore our grass and gardens campaign,show CCBC that somebody is bothered by the mess,i walked along the prom this morning,grass as usual uncut,happy valley is a disgrace and nobody gives a damn,shame.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 15, 2014, 09:55:29 am
but nice new no dog signs all along the prom,now that money wasted on them signs could have paid for a gardener for a few months.Maybe the Town council should cut the grass.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2014, 06:45:58 pm
Prom was really packed today. Odd how Six Piers didn't bother to open most of their kiosks at the pier entrance:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on June 17, 2014, 07:52:56 pm
Still on theme, the wind farm. I think the visual development of the two fields, which has gone on for around five years, has now been completed.
  This evening from Colwyn Bay prom I spotted the four legged construction boat which has been erecting the masts virtually every day for the last five years. It was far away in the distance heading, I suppose, north west in the general direction of Northern Ireland provided it carries on in a straight line.
  I think the last of the masts is in place. If so, goodbye.
   Now you can look and see the final view.
   N my opinion, what an enormous fuss about a serene sight.   Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2014, 11:38:11 pm
Mike, beauty (or the lack of it) is in the eye of the beholder, as always.

I have to say that I think the entire skyline and horizon has been ruined by the windfarm, and in my humble opinion it looks like an industrial eyesore.

I note that the turbines are usually edited out of any aesthetic view of Llandudno Bay, nor will you see them on any calendars.
Why might that be, if they are so 'serene'?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2014, 10:52:13 am
It amazes me that money has been found to drill holes in paving stones all over town in which to insert these Alice plaques, whilst just yards away, the areas of shrubbery have not been touched this year, full of weeds nearly 2 feet high.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2014, 11:19:55 am
Noticed the following in Waterstones Bookshop a few weeks ago. It would seem that accuracy is not their strong point:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2014, 05:41:26 pm
A sea mist spent most of the afternoon trying (and failing) to roll into central Llandudno. I went up onto the Orme to get some photos, this is looking down at West Shore/Conwy Estuary from up above the mist:
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Post by: DaveR on June 18, 2014, 05:43:20 pm
Looking down at the Oval/West Shore:
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Post by: norman08 on June 18, 2014, 05:53:11 pm
brill photos again dave ,the mist comming round the head was dark the pleasure boat going on its 1st trip they would have got wet and cold . 
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Post by: wrex on June 18, 2014, 06:20:51 pm
Another kick in the teeth for Llandudno,superbowl seems to be going,change of use and mezzine floor.
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Post by: hollins on June 18, 2014, 07:00:18 pm
Love the sea mist pics DaveR. Good effort!
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Post by: Michael on June 18, 2014, 09:32:04 pm
Hello Fester, your opinion is not humble. It's just as valid as any one else's.
  Just give the calendar people a bit of time. The wind farm was only completed visually yesterday so seeing as calendars only come out once a year I think this could change in a few years. Serenity of the slowly moving blades will eventually seep into your pier customers minds. You see. Mind you, might take a jolly long time seeping through.
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Post by: Michael on June 18, 2014, 09:37:11 pm
  Just starting to click out of the forum, the "advert" home page comes up and there I am stareing at my photo of the golf course, the bay and Little Orme --- and no wind farm.
  Must make a note to alter this tomorrow. And as we all know tomorrow never comes
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Post by: Michael on June 18, 2014, 09:42:19 pm
  Changing the subject but still about Llandudno.
  Do you know who operates the deck chair hire on the prom? Well I did'nt until today. And it came as a bit of a surprise.
  This operation is ran by no less than Colwyn council itself. How about that?
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Post by: Fester on June 18, 2014, 11:24:31 pm
A sea mist spent most of the afternoon trying (and failing) to roll into central Llandudno. I went up onto the Orme to get some photos, this is looking down at West Shore/Conwy Estuary from up above the mist:

I'm sorry Dave, but the sea mist cannot have been 'trying' to roll into central Llandudno, as that would imply some conscious effort and premeditation on it's part.
Sea mists (or sea frets as they are sometimes known) are, to my knowledge, non-sentient in nature.  They cannot make decisions such as the one you implied.
What evidence do you have that the sea mist was indeed 'trying' to do anything?
I would be interested to see any proof you can demonstrate on this matter.

Now, seriously, those spelling mistakes of PEER instead of PIER,  and CONWAY instead of CONWY really are pathetic.
It really is indicative of a the general malaise in basic standards these days.   &shake&

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Post by: Yorkie on June 19, 2014, 09:05:53 am
  Changing the subject but still about Llandudno.
  Do you know who operates the deck chair hire on the prom? Well I did'nt until today. And it came as a bit of a surprise.
  This operation is ran by no less than Colwyn council itself. How about that?

I think you mean Conwy County Council, Mike.   This has been the case for 20 odd years now, and the deck chair attendant doubles up as  promenade inspector, by-laws enforcer and dog warden.  He is about the only person who cannot hide from his work!    :D
He is under the control of the Harbour Meister.   Z**
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Post by: DaveR on June 19, 2014, 09:12:59 am
Funnily enough, I walked past yesterday and all 3 of them were standing around outside their kiosk sunning themselves. I thought to myself what a pleasant job it must be. Perhaps CCBC should issue them with secateurs and trowels, so they could do a spot of tidying up of the Promenade gardens whilst they are quiet?
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Post by: born2run on June 19, 2014, 10:04:22 am
Another kick in the teeth for Llandudno,superbowl seems to be going,change of use and mezzine floor.

 :( People just can't afford it. They do £2 Wednesdays and it's completely full all evening (You have to book on Monday to get a lane)

But people won't pay £6 a game. Especially as a game doesn't last all that long.

A family of four having 3 games and you're talking £12 each (That's still with the very reasonable offer of £1 for the third game)

So for a family of four that's £48 you've spent already - not including any drinks or snacks you might want, not cheap for a couple of hours out.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 19, 2014, 01:02:18 pm
Businesses often do not comprehend the philosophy of half a loaf.
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Post by: Barbiroli on June 19, 2014, 07:25:10 pm
Walked past the clock on the prom this afternoon, nice to see two men had weeded the area
surrounding  the clock and planted some flowers.
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Post by: Fester on June 19, 2014, 10:40:36 pm
Businesses often do not comprehend the philosophy of half a loaf.

Yet strangely, The Llandudno Swim Centre offers only half a pool!   (if you can actually ever get in it)
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Post by: pebbles on June 21, 2014, 01:12:51 am
Now, seriously, those spelling mistakes of PEER instead of PIER,  and CONWAY instead of CONWY really are pathetic.
It really is indicative of a the general malaise in basic standards these days.   &shake&

Spelling mistakes bug me so much, it's a bad sign of the times, and there's no excuse for the "pier/peer" one.
But the "Conway" one, if whoever labelled up the picture was using a book from say the 80s, Conwy used to be spelt 2 ways (in the 70s and 80s at least), the correct way with no A and also what everyone at the time said was the "English" way. I remember as a kid mum used to write it as Conway, and I'd get mad at her, but she'd point out that the road signs use 2 spellings, as did Conwy road. Still got an old map somewhere that calls it that.
Luckily and rightly all that's been scrapped now ;)

As for wind farms - I'm a green earth loving veggie, but i hate the LL off shore windfarms with a passion. Which makes me have double standards but i don't care! I just hate them being in my favourite place.. and when they build that new lot off Anglesey it's likely to ruin all West Shore sunsets and views while at Penmon Point as well (grrrrrrrrrr!) As someone who loves the views, and loves taking photographs, i really hate them...  (have you twigged that i hate them yet?!)
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Post by: Ian on June 21, 2014, 07:43:15 am
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i hate the LL off shore windfarms with a passion. Which makes me have double standards

I suspect we're all guilty of that, P. 'Nimbyism' was a phenomenon of the 20th C and seems to be getting more pronounced with every passing day. One problem is the growing need for power, something which has mushroomed over the past 20 years, and which has left us dangerously reliant on imported power supplies. In the early 1950s average power consumption was limited to one light per room, the odd iron and perhaps an electric cooker. These days, however, the number of chargers alone fill any spare sockets, while manufacturers have only belatedly started to get to grips with standby power consumption on things like sky boxes.  CFL lighting only partly addresses this issue (LEDS are much better but a lot more expensive to buy) but the real problem is that we've come to expect (and enjoy) being clean.

In the post-war years most houses had one bath night, which - in many cases - meant a steel bathtub dragged into the lounge where it had some hot water poured in and where each member of the family would have to enjoy what hot soaking they could, and always in the water from the previous users.

It's now rare if people don't shower on a daily basis, often twice a day, and none of that water is re-used. Heating water is where most of our electricity goes, and - contrary to popular belief - many showers use even more water than baths did, especially as some folk enjoy long, soothing showers.

One answer would be to make domestic heat pumps much cheaper and more efficient, but even then installation would cost an arm and a leg in many cases, and people won't pay it. Making solar panels on roofs compulsory for all new-build homes was scrapped by the coalition, since that would cause problems for too many builders (!) so until and unless the government decides to legislate forcing such changes the only options are increasing numbers of wind farms and nuclear plants.
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Post by: DaveR on June 23, 2014, 05:28:36 pm
I see that the Floral Clock has had a bit of work done on it.  It's regained the 'floral' aspect, but sadly lost the 'clock' bit...
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Post by: Ian on June 23, 2014, 05:36:00 pm
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I see that the Floral Clock has had a bit of work done on it.  It's regained the 'floral' aspect, but sadly lost the 'clock' bit...

You do expect a lot, don't you...

 _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 23, 2014, 05:44:34 pm
You have to HAND it to them, they could get some replacements secondHAND!  :laugh:
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Post by: cygnusx-1 on June 23, 2014, 06:52:03 pm
They need the TIME to do that!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 23, 2014, 06:59:05 pm
I wonder what time they CLOCK on?
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Post by: Yorkie on June 23, 2014, 08:13:07 pm
I wonder what time they CLOCK on?

Stop WINDING people UP, you must know it is on the HOUR!  Except when they are on STRIKE.   :D
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Post by: snowcap on June 23, 2014, 10:22:29 pm
ALARM BELLS tell me that these posts could be TICKING on for some TIME
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 23, 2014, 10:51:43 pm
These jokes are as regular as CLOCKWORK even now my brain is TICKING away trying to think up new ones! You can even hear the COG WHEELS turning in my brain!  :laugh:
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Post by: Blongb on June 24, 2014, 07:10:21 pm
There were a lot of comments on this thread criticising the council over the poor state of the flowerbeds both along the Prom and throughout the town. It happens every year as the early planting is replaced with the new summer flowers. Perhaps this year, with the cuts in staff it’s just taken a little bit longer. As for the clock the hands will be back when the floral display is established.
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Post by: DaveR on June 24, 2014, 07:19:55 pm
There were a lot of comments on this thread criticising the council over the poor state of the flowerbeds both along the Prom and throughout the town. It happens every year as the early planting is replaced with the new summer flowers.
I think we were talking about shrubbery actually, rather than summer bedding. There isn't actually much summer bedding along the Prom anymore, as it has mostly been replaced with shrubbery and perennials which are currently dying off due to a lack of watering.

I wonder how CCBC managed to find the millions to buy an office block in Colwyn Bay when they were supposedly so strapped for cash?

Saw this today on the Prom, coincidentally, a weed and rubbish filled area of shrubbery. How does such a complete lack of maintenance tie in with the council's 'Destination Conwy' plan, I wonder?
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Post by: wrex on June 24, 2014, 07:42:33 pm
Please don;t try and defend the mess we ate left with,the beach is still dirty and i have no idea what kiddies corner is supposed to be.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 24, 2014, 09:31:15 pm
There is a large yellow flag flying on the promenade near the boat jetty.

It is an award from Keep Britain Tidy.

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Post by: Yorkie on June 25, 2014, 07:49:46 am
There is a large yellow flag flying on the promenade near the boat jetty.

It is an award from Keep Britain Tidy.

Is that not in respect of Bathing Water quality?    Z**
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 25, 2014, 10:18:42 am
We both could be right, Yorkie.

Upon closer inspection, it is a Seaside Award from Keep Wales Tidy and the flag is undated.

It is the same award I commented upon two years ago.

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7.msg46285/topicseen.html#msg46285 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7.msg46285/topicseen.html#msg46285)

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Post by: DaveR on June 25, 2014, 10:40:09 am
The criteria is here:

http://www.keepwalestidy.org/welsh-beaches/awards/seaside-awards (http://www.keepwalestidy.org/welsh-beaches/awards/seaside-awards)
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Post by: wrex on June 26, 2014, 08:10:01 am
Llandudno town council you need a working party to take a walk(or zimmer frame) along the prom,happy valley Haulfre gardens(joke) and the West shore and report back to Lloydd st but please look closely what CCBC are giving us is utter rubbish. ps summer nearly over ,do it today.
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Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2014, 10:56:29 am
We walked around Happy Valley gardens a week or so back and it was nice in places but an overgrown mess in others. The water feature was running but it only ran half way along the rill as there is still a leak in it. They're still using metered water instead of a pump to recycle the water, must be costing a bit.

Is the Friends of Happy Valley Group still going?
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Post by: Nemesis on June 26, 2014, 11:57:20 am
Ooops !
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Post by: Bri Roberts on June 26, 2014, 01:44:46 pm
2013?
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Post by: wrex on June 26, 2014, 03:51:57 pm
No wonder the great orme has been dropped from the wales rally,ERIAS PARK,COLWYN BAY has been choozen this year,what a suprise,why don;t they just move all the junkies from the bay to Llandudno and the trancition will be complete.
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Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2014, 04:21:05 pm
2013?
All the signs have got the wrong year on them...  :laugh:
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Post by: Yorkie on June 26, 2014, 04:24:18 pm
2013?
All the signs have got the wrong year on them...  :laugh:

Couldn't resist it!  It is what they call re-CYCLING.     _))*
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Post by: Nemesis on June 26, 2014, 08:20:00 pm
2013?
All the signs have got the wrong year on them...  :laugh:

One or two are right, others say 2013. Ah well !
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Post by: norman08 on June 26, 2014, 10:37:34 pm
conwy council have put a sign up on the new jetty for the sailing club , start date april finish date september ,how can it take that long to build a jetty  has someone made a boob on this job like the maesdu bridge ,is this going to cost us tax payers again .
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Post by: DaveR on June 27, 2014, 08:19:09 am
I see in the Daily Post today (page 6) that Llandudno will be divided into 'Alice in Wonderland themed quarters', whereby parts of the town will be named after playing cards based on iconography in the childrens novel. It will involve Planters themed with playing cards being placed around the town, starting with the 'Hearts Quarter' by the railway station.

Apparently, the 'Chamber of Trade' is strongly behind the idea. Is that the Chamber of Trade that is run by the same people as the Alice Project?

What a load of rubbish, I'm sick of this tacky nonsense taking over my town. How about spending the money on sorting out the mess that is the parks and gardens around town? How about sorting out the pavements around town? CCBC cant maintain the existing green spaces properly, let alone any new ones.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. 99.9% of the visitors to Llandudno could not care less about Alice in Wonderland and its largely imaginary links to the town.
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Post by: norman08 on June 27, 2014, 09:20:30 am
dave have you seen the mess they have made putting them plates in , what do they say to the visitors when they get to the gogarth abbey ,oh its not there now this council allowed it to be knocked down ,so they only ref to alice is not there . :rage:
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Post by: born2run on June 27, 2014, 09:47:47 am
I see in the Daily Post today (page 6) that Llandudno will be divided into 'Alice in Wonderland themed quarters', whereby parts of the town will be named after playing cards based on iconography in the childrens novel. It will involve Planters themed with playing cards being placed around the town, starting with the 'Hearts Quarter' by the railway station.

Apparently, the 'Chamber of Trade' is strongly behind the idea. Is that the Chamber of Trade that is run by the same people as the Alice Project?

What a load of rubbish, I'm sick of this tacky nonsense taking over my town. How about spending the money on sorting out the mess that is the parks and gardens around town? How about sorting out the pavements around town? CCBC cant maintain the existing green spaces properly, let alone any new ones.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. 99.9% of the visitors to Llandudno could not care less about Alice in Wonderland and its largely imaginary links to the town.

Alice, Alice. Who the **** is ALICE
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Post by: Nemesis on June 27, 2014, 11:23:28 am
I see in the Daily Post today (page 6) that Llandudno will be divided into 'Alice in Wonderland themed quarters', whereby parts of the town will be named after playing cards based on iconography in the childrens novel. It will involve Planters themed with playing cards being placed around the town, starting with the 'Hearts Quarter' by the railway station.

Apparently, the 'Chamber of Trade' is strongly behind the idea. Is that the Chamber of Trade that is run by the same people as the Alice Project?

What a load of rubbish, I'm sick of this tacky nonsense taking over my town. How about spending the money on sorting out the mess that is the parks and gardens around town? How about sorting out the pavements around town? CCBC cant maintain the existing green spaces properly, let alone any new ones.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. 99.9% of the visitors to Llandudno could not care less about Alice in Wonderland and its largely imaginary links to the town.

In answer to your question-- Yes it is the same people. I'll leave it at that  ! By the way I agree with you Dave.
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Post by: DVT on June 27, 2014, 11:25:57 am
I had to smile when I saw that the North Shore is designated "Spades".

You need more than spades to dig there!
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Post by: Nemesis on June 27, 2014, 01:09:24 pm
 _))* _))* Diggers???
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Post by: wrex on June 28, 2014, 10:02:14 am
For a change i will start on a positive,if we get TKMak this will be a good thing ,if we managed a Primark it would be brilliant for the whole town.When we get the Clarence and Tudno Castle completed and all units full then it will be brilliant for the town,,now the negitive part,if only we could get Venue Cymru used more,the gardens looked after more,the beach cleaned and cleared of, stones(and i only mean the stones that are on the sand),Mostyn St re-slabbed then this town would be first class,unfortunatley all the negetives are the responsibility of CCBC WHICH SAYS A LOT.
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Post by: Ian on June 28, 2014, 12:55:14 pm
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99.9% of the visitors to Llandudno could not care less about Alice in Wonderland and its largely imaginary links to the town.

Not sure about that. Nostalgia is a powerful thing, and Disney films during childhood, an adult who was read the stories and some canny marketing to grandparents could prove a winning combination. It marks Llandudno out as different and even special.
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Post by: Fester on June 28, 2014, 10:31:26 pm
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99.9% of the visitors to Llandudno could not care less about Alice in Wonderland and its largely imaginary links to the town.

Not sure about that. Nostalgia is a powerful thing, and Disney films during childhood, an adult who was read the stories and some canny marketing to grandparents could prove a winning combination. It marks Llandudno out as different and even special.

Ian, take a closer look at Llandudno when it's busy....  I doubt if 90% of visitors these days have ever read ANYTHING in their lives.
If it's not on an X-Box those under 25 are not interested. They rarely look up from their iphone screens.
Those over 25 are ONLY interested in beer, ciggies and ice-cream.   
Open a few more tattoo parlours, and then maybe we have some attractions that are in increasing demand these days.

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Post by: Ian on June 29, 2014, 07:57:40 am
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Ian, take a closer look at Llandudno when it's busy....  I doubt if 90% of visitors these days have ever read ANYTHING in their lives.

Perhaps that's all the more reason to try something different.
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Post by: wrex on June 29, 2014, 09:38:20 am
Tri-athlon here i come and no Fester im not entering just watching,lol
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Post by: wrex on June 29, 2014, 07:32:09 pm
I stood on the slipway watching the 300 athletes negotiate the litter,seaweed and stones on our so called beach this morning and thought why did CCBC not rake this beach this morning knowing the triathlon was on,answer ,too busy in Conwy and Colwyn Bay probably.
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Post by: norman08 on June 29, 2014, 10:03:53 pm
I thought the same thing Wrex. Some people ventured on to the rocks but were,nt comfy lots of visitors couldn't,t believe what it was like ,as you say left of the slipway what a mess.
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Post by: Nemesis on June 30, 2014, 08:41:05 am
Acres of pristine, empty sand in Colwyn Bay yesterday morning. :o
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Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2014, 09:10:58 am
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99.9% of the visitors to Llandudno could not care less about Alice in Wonderland and its largely imaginary links to the town.

Not sure about that. Nostalgia is a powerful thing, and Disney films during childhood, an adult who was read the stories and some canny marketing to grandparents could prove a winning combination. It marks Llandudno out as different and even special.
It would mark out Llandudno as being special if there were actually any real links with the Alice stories...but there aren't!  :laugh:
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Post by: Ian on June 30, 2014, 10:39:32 am
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It would mark out Llandudno as being special if there were actually any real links with the Alice stories...but there aren't!

 _))*

But never let the truth get in the way of a good story, Dave :-))) And people enjoy illusions.
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Post by: wrex on June 30, 2014, 11:12:12 am
Problem is Norm there ain;t one councillor town or county that gives a fig.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2014, 11:45:53 am
I suppose Beddgelert does very well with the fictitious dog's grave story!
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Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2014, 12:09:42 pm
I suppose Beddgelert does very well with the fictitious dog's grave story!
At least there is something tangible to look at there!  :laugh:
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Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2014, 12:19:01 pm
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It would mark out Llandudno as being special if there were actually any real links with the Alice stories...but there aren't!

 _))*

But never let the truth get in the way of a good story, Dave :-))) And people enjoy illusions.
But the 'Alice link' is not even a good story, Ian. The whole premise of the Alice link is that the little girl who was supposedly the inspiration for Alice came to Llandudno a few times on holiday. Wow...big deal, we'd better get some extra car parks built to cope with all the demand to see the derelict site where her holiday home once was!

Seriously, Llandudno doesn't need this nonsense. Stick to the basics, by providing a clean, well maintained seaside resort with quality accommodation and a range of attractions for people of all ages.
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Post by: born2run on June 30, 2014, 01:30:29 pm
Yeah I agree with Dave, and I really like the Alice stories as well. But it's a ludicrously tenous connection for all this fuss!
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Post by: Yorkie on June 30, 2014, 02:19:04 pm
Quite soon there will be more Alice statues, plaques, trail signs and other paraphernalia than visitors!  Who is the Mad Hatter behind all this?    ZXZ
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2014, 03:43:00 pm
White Rabbit must know!  $good$
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Post by: Yorkie on June 30, 2014, 03:50:46 pm
White Rabbit must know!  $good$

Personally, I think it is the Jack of Hearts, he is always up to mischief!   _))*

Orf with his Head!   :D
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Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2014, 05:19:17 pm
Council gardeners are today tackling the overgrown hedges and shrubberies outside the former Tudno Castle Hotel.
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Post by: Ian on June 30, 2014, 05:49:23 pm
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But the 'Alice link' is not even a good story, Ian. The whole premise of the Alice link is that the little girl who was supposedly the inspiration for Alice came to Llandudno a few times on holiday. Wow

And entire world religions have been built on a lot less.  WWW WWW WWW
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2014, 06:51:56 pm
Very true Ian!  $good$. Is Alice the new God? Interesting thought!  :twoface:
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Post by: llewelyn on June 30, 2014, 06:58:55 pm
One of the worries is the massive stories of child abuse running currently, is this the time to talk about Lewis Caroll. and his links to the town.
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Post by: norman08 on June 30, 2014, 10:34:27 pm
I noticed on my walk along the prom today the plaque for little Sophie hook has been taken off ,I hope someone has taken it to clean .
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Post by: llewelyn on June 30, 2014, 11:07:25 pm
We wont forget, my little niece wanted to have a little tent in the back garden, she doesnt know why I said NO WAY.
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Post by: wrex on July 01, 2014, 08:12:44 am
First section of scaffold is supposed to be coming down today on the Alex hotel,but ive just seen men going up with more poles helppppppppppppppp
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Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2014, 05:37:30 pm
The weeds are continuing to grow nicely in the shrubbery outside the Broadway Hotel:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 01, 2014, 05:59:26 pm
There must have been around a dozen coaches on the Mostyn Broadway Coach Park today so that view is what all those day visitors will have seen walking into Llandudno this morning and pass again on their return this afternoon.

I notice the floral clock now has plants which will eventually spell 'Llandudno in Bloom'.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2014, 07:16:03 pm
Ironic when there are large letters at the bottom of Happy Valley, 'LLANDUDNO' in concrete!  :twoface:
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Post by: Ian on July 01, 2014, 07:19:23 pm
"LLANDUDNO in concrete!" Now there's an image to bring the visitors in :-)))
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Post by: Michael on July 01, 2014, 10:04:30 pm
I noticed on my walk along the prom today the plaque for little Sophie hook has been taken off ,I hope someone has taken it to clean .
  I often think of her when I drive past the swimming pool. I don't think I will ever really get over it. By coincidence I was in Llandudno in those early hours, I was coach driving a crowd of young lads out on the beer and many were missing at 2 a.m for the return. I asked where they all were an someone said oh they are after girls on the beach. When the dreadful news came out the following day I went to the Police and told them about this. And then to add to coincidences three days later I took a coach of bowlers from Penrhyn Bay to the village where the Hook family lived
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Post by: Fester on July 01, 2014, 11:00:45 pm
Incidentally,  the grossly overgrown grass verges on the Gt Orme that I mentioned WEEKS ago, have still not been cut.

They look even more terrible than before.

When my next door neighbour enquired to CCBC for it to be dealt with, she was simply told.... ''well, its the cut backs and all that, we can't say when it will be done''



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Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2014, 08:19:49 am
It was a beautiful day for an early morning walk along the Prom. There was the usual selection of runners, cyclists, visitors having an early morning stroll, a  group of about 20 Jewish women praying by the Slipway and, slightly unusually, a man with a dog strolling along playing a selection of tunes on the bagpipes. He received a round of applause from hotel guests leaning out of their windows to listen.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 02, 2014, 05:21:52 pm
There's a fine display of Bindweed covering the shrubbery at Bog Island. What has gone wrong with the Parks department?
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Post by: DaveR on July 03, 2014, 10:28:50 am
Filming going on by the Paddling Pool this morning:
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Post by: Nemesis on July 03, 2014, 11:01:45 am
Kiddies Corner had been well raked this morning.
 Two follow the rabbit plaques on the prom covered by bollards, something to do with them not being  put in properly I read .
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Post by: Mikethewatch on July 03, 2014, 11:07:21 am
Filming going on by the Paddling Pool this morning:

Filming what, the Telly Tubbies?
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Post by: Ian on July 03, 2014, 01:24:14 pm
It's Blue Peter.
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Post by: Dave on July 04, 2014, 02:21:25 pm
I noticed on my walk along the prom today the plaque for little Sophie hook has been taken off ,I hope someone has taken it to clean .

I think the plaque was removed a few years ago, not sure why and by whom but I have always wondered.
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Post by: norman08 on July 04, 2014, 02:47:58 pm
No dave it was there last week ,I touch it every day ,when the guys painted the pool one of them cleaned it up, I hope family have took it to clean properly .it is /was on the outside wall .
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Post by: Nemesis on July 05, 2014, 10:51:58 am
Don't often get as far up as this, but was rather disconcerted to see how overgrown everywhere was. To say that the rabbit plaques are now in place I dread to think what visitors will think.
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Post by: wrex on July 05, 2014, 05:35:35 pm
How that woman that runs the cafe puts up with thaT I DON;T KNOW BUT IT WILL BE HER LOSE,if i ran that buisness i would insist that all 6 gogarth town councillors and both ccbc clls get up there asap and explaIN WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.
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Post by: wrex on July 05, 2014, 06:27:00 pm
Lets see who cares on here then,the e-mail for the parks manager is lyn.davies@conwy.gov.uk lets hope when he turns up on Monday he has a dozen e-mails telling him about the Heulfre SO CALLED GARDENS.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 05, 2014, 07:19:31 pm
Did that first Wrex !! Will keep you posted
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Post by: Yorkie on July 05, 2014, 09:16:40 pm
Bombard the CEO, Iwan Davies, after all he is supposed to be the one in charge.  If enough mail lands on his desk, he may regret taking the post after having had such a cushy job in the Legal Department!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on July 06, 2014, 06:41:11 pm
Been on the new Sapphire bus today and they are a credit to Arriva and Llandudno in general.
Went to Rhos downstairs - pale blue and dark blue leather seats - 3 pin plug - mobile charge plug and free wi-fi to each seat.

Back home and went upstairs to have a look -  on the left hand side the double seats are separated by an arm rest - right hand side there are about 5 single seats each with their own plugs etc.  Never seen such a local bus like this or some airlines.

There were 2 ladies of a certain age (as I am) sat in front of me that wanted to go to Rhos so I told them I would tell them where to get off on the sea-front.  I told them I had pressed the bell for them and as we went round the corner and they said  " that bus driver is brilliant - telling us where every stop is, we don't understand the Welsh bit but he is really good"  I just said - yes they are all like that  -  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Ian on July 06, 2014, 06:49:59 pm
Lots about it here

http://www.thenorthwestbusblog.co.uk/2014/07/arriva-sapphire-adds-sparkle-to.html (http://www.thenorthwestbusblog.co.uk/2014/07/arriva-sapphire-adds-sparkle-to.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on July 06, 2014, 07:48:53 pm
Thanks for that - my OH is at his mothers for a few days and I told him on the phone how good they are..... and gave him your link.

My OH said he will sit on the bus with his pass with his lap top plugged into there for ever so he can get away from me giving him grief for always being on the net  -  yippee. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 08, 2014, 11:35:12 am
Just been past the CyD paddling pool with the dog and the plaque for Sophie Hook is still missing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 08, 2014, 09:54:24 pm
The Laburnum tree down at Bog Island is looking far better now that all the bindweed has been removed. Signs of life at the Parks dept maybe?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 08, 2014, 11:17:22 pm
I wonder if the parks department work is planned by looking on here to see what we are complaining about?  :twoface:
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Post by: Fester on July 08, 2014, 11:53:28 pm
I doubt it,  because despite several fruitless phonecalls to CCBC by my neighbour,  the absolute jungle on Llwynon Road has finally been tackled....... By another neighbour who got sick and tired of it!!

 &shake& &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on July 09, 2014, 12:22:11 am
SOME of the grassed areas in Haulfre have been cut, or rather hacked back this week.
Still loads of overgrown pathways and weeds in the flower beds.
Also seems to be a strong smell of cannabis there too.......
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 09, 2014, 06:59:53 am
Thats one thing CCBC are taking out of Colwyn Bay and giving us,their druggies
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on July 09, 2014, 09:02:44 am
CCBC have (in the past at least) been taking the druggies out of Llandudno and dumping them in Colwyn Bay.  The Rothesey Hotel has for a number of years been the favoured dumping ground for every homeless druggie in the county.  It's possible some of them will be rehoused in Llandudno but they will more than likely have come from Llandudno in the first place.

However Llandudno has more than enough druggies of it's own without having to import more from Colwyn Bay, including a small community living in caves on the Great Orme.  I know there was a project earlier this year to rehouse the cave dwellers before the start of the tourist season but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if there are still some living up there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 09, 2014, 10:08:19 am
CCBC have approved development work on two Llandudno Prom projects:

Craig y Don Paddling Pool – the aim was to provide new toilets, a new pumping station for the pool itself, and a water feature within the paddling pool, which would provide upgraded facilities for tourists and residents alike.
Llandudno Promenade Heritage Shelters – Llandudno Promenade was in need of new shelters and plans had been discovered from 1899 showing heritage type shelters, which would enhance the visitor experience in the Conservation area.

Who knew that the official name of the paddling Pool was the 'Coronation Pool'?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 09, 2014, 11:12:13 am
Cannabis Mike?   mmm I've a good idea where that originates from !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 09, 2014, 04:34:44 pm
CCBC have approved development work on two Llandudno Prom projects:

Craig y Don Paddling Pool – the aim was to provide new toilets, a new pumping station for the pool itself, and a water feature within the paddling pool, which would provide upgraded facilities for tourists and residents alike.
Llandudno Promenade Heritage Shelters – Llandudno Promenade was in need of new shelters and plans had been discovered from 1899 showing heritage type shelters, which would enhance the visitor experience in the Conservation area.

Who knew that the official name of the paddling Pool was the 'Coronation Pool'?

That's very positive news for the Town and the bit about the shelters is particularly interesting,  I hope Edward Hillier of Mostyn Estates can remember what he said some time ago.:-

The current shelters were built during the 1960s, and groups in the town - including Mostyn Estates - feel they are in need of an overhaul.

Edward Hiller, managing director of Mostyn Estates, said the new designs would be based on the original Victorian plans, found in the offices of the estate.

He said: "The design that we came up with is based on original designs which came out of this office in 1899.

"We would be prepared to put some money up, but we want to ensure we're not the only people to do it.

"We would also be prepared to match funds - although we're not yet sure what the cost is likely to be."
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Post by: wrex on July 09, 2014, 08:41:05 pm
Did CCBC planning pass the Tudno Castle scheme today anybody.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 09, 2014, 08:53:57 pm
Yes.
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Post by: FatAndy on July 09, 2014, 09:10:29 pm
"Conwy councillors have approved plans to transform a derelict former hotel into a 63 bed Premier Inn, restaurants and retail units.

The decision was made at a meeting today and will create up to 110 jobs will be created.

Councillor Trevor Stott commented: "This is a well designed development.

"'I'm sure it will be a great boost for the local economy and I'm thrilled they are keeping the current façade."

Planners backed the proposal in report last week, which read: “This is a comprehensive re-development of a prominent site at the entrance to Llandudno main shopping street and it is considered that the provision of such a development, whilst maintaining the tourism element on the site, providing significant employment numbers and ensuring the decorative facades of such an important listed building within the Conservation Area are retained is worthy of support."

Under the plan, Premier Inn would come in to run the hotel with Italian chain Prezzo taking over one of the restaurants.

Negotiations are ongoing for the other restaurants and bar units.

The prominent hotel has lain empty since closing in 2008 and become an eyesore in the centre of the seaside resort."

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-green-light-landmark-tudno-7396309 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-green-light-landmark-tudno-7396309)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on July 10, 2014, 07:57:06 am
DaveR - the paddling pool was I believe built in 1937 and named Coronation Pool to commemorate George VI's coronation that year.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 10, 2014, 11:05:17 am
Looks as though the planters adorned with hearts have been vandalised on the corner of Lloyd and Madoc streets. Plants ripped out and baskets brought down. Mind you the rest look to need a good watering !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 10, 2014, 02:35:17 pm
I was pleased to see this morning that the areas of overgrown shrubbery by the Broadway Hotel have been cleared and a section replanted:
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Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2014, 12:27:22 pm
Architect's image of the new Lifeboat Station proposed for next to the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don:
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Post by: SteveH on July 11, 2014, 01:15:36 pm
Not sure I like this, is it in keeping with the area?,I suppose when the wood is weathered it will look better.
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Post by: dwsi on July 11, 2014, 01:34:49 pm
Good luck to them, let's hope the nimby's stay quiet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 11, 2014, 03:40:07 pm
It does seem to resemble a shack, rather than an edifice.
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Post by: born2run on July 11, 2014, 03:47:44 pm
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/135496/wales-boss-chris-coleman-to-open-llandudno-fc-s-new-3g-pitch.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/135496/wales-boss-chris-coleman-to-open-llandudno-fc-s-new-3g-pitch.aspx)

"The event is strictly invite only, meaning members of the public are not permitted to attend"

Why???

Big own goal Llandudno FC

You could have got the general public of Llandudno interested and aware of your team, a chance to view the new facilities and no doubt some would have come back and become fans of the team. God knows they need some, what are the attendance nowadays? 100? 150? 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 11, 2014, 04:43:28 pm
It's a big improvement over the Skip by the Sea in Colwyn Bay, but then a heap of manure is better than the skip!  :twoface:
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Post by: Nemesis on July 11, 2014, 06:38:48 pm
The paper says that Bryn needs more money for his bistro !!!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 11, 2014, 06:47:49 pm
He should get it in Asda! Cheap enough there!  $good$
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Post by: Ian on July 11, 2014, 07:51:17 pm
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Post by: norman08 on July 11, 2014, 08:56:56 pm
Is it true ccbc have fitted the kitchen out for Bryn at a cost of £200.000 some kitchen that will be if true .
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Post by: Michael on July 11, 2014, 09:22:58 pm
Yesterday Cambrian mentions the paddling pool being built in 1937.
  One of my very earliest memories was being a passenger in a car owned and driven by my Father with Mum alongside. It had a battery in what now seems a most stupid place. Outside on a running board on the near side. Anyway sparks must have been flying and the next minute the car was on fire -- or maybe just smoking or smouldering. But the thing I remember best is workmen working on the building of the paddling pool running to us throwing sand over the flames. I was six in 1937 so that's probably about right
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 11, 2014, 09:31:04 pm
Is it true ccbc have fitted the kitchen out for Bryn at a cost of £200.000 some kitchen that will be if true .

If it involves CCBC spending ridiculous amounts of our money on nonsense then yes, it could well be true! Does seem incredibly expensive for a kitchen if it is true!
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Post by: A.L.N. (a local nobody) on July 11, 2014, 10:47:25 pm
The paper says that Bryn needs more money for his bistro !!!

The only kitchen he's opened recently is the new £170000 revamp at Odettes in London financed by Santander.
If he comes to Colwyn Bay IF! it will likely be a fish restaurant judging by the smell thats begining to pervade.
 :-[
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Post by: majormellons on July 12, 2014, 01:12:24 am
This whole Bryn deal is not finished yet........a pillar' of local council has let slip a potential, big, issue.

...I've said too much.....
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Post by: Fester on July 12, 2014, 01:14:35 am
This whole Bryn deal is not finished yet........a pillar' of local council has let slip a potential, big, issue.

...I've said too much.....

You haven't said enough........  (there's a song in there somewhere)
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Post by: Yorkie on July 12, 2014, 07:14:29 am
I smell yet another Freedom of Information request coming on!   Haven't had a reply to my last one about Port Eirias!  Must chase it up!    ZXZ
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Post by: Michael on July 13, 2014, 09:24:20 pm
   A few days ago there was a post I think from Wrex suggesting that I popped down to Haulfre Gardens to check on whether or not the Parks and Gardens had turned up. Well today I managed to pop down. AND I went back up, but not popping, more spluttering.
  Anyway, and in fairness to P and G, there has been a lot of strimming on the grassy banks. Not at all easy. But not much else, indeed probably nothing else.
   The trouble obviously is the fact that they have no manpower. They are trying to do the impossible. Run large gardens on steep slopes with a handful of men.
  So --- its back to Westminster, bankers, politicians et al.   How much more cash can they squeeze out of local government?
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Post by: majormellons on July 14, 2014, 12:08:59 am
I guess it was in the NWWN today, and posted on Oscars Blog......

http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/bryn-willaims-bistro.html#links (http://thoughtsofoscar.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/bryn-willaims-bistro.html#links)

The issue seems to be that Bryn want's his 'curved kitchen', but to fit his 'curved kitchen' in, the skip will need a central pillar removing......at much expense to someone.
It seems the Council may be coming to their senses and pulling the plug.
They will then get their Costa Coffee, or similar in there.
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Post by: DaveR on July 14, 2014, 08:28:40 am
   A few days ago there was a post I think from Wrex suggesting that I popped down to Haulfre Gardens to check on whether or not the Parks and Gardens had turned up. Well today I managed to pop down. AND I went back up, but not popping, more spluttering.
  Anyway, and in fairness to P and G, there has been a lot of strimming on the grassy banks. Not at all easy. But not much else, indeed probably nothing else.
   The trouble obviously is the fact that they have no manpower. They are trying to do the impossible. Run large gardens on steep slopes with a handful of men.
  So --- its back to Westminster, bankers, politicians et al.   How much more cash can they squeeze out of local government?
One thing CCBC don't lack is manpower. The problem is that most of them are sitting behind desks rather than actually working at the front line of public services. Having said that, Haulfre Gardens is not difficult to maintain. Most of it is left to its natural state anyway; the only areas that require regular attention are the lawns and (to a lesser degree) shrubberies. A private gardener costs about £10 an hour, so why don't the Town Council just shell out a few pounds for someone to work a morning a week there? Just one gardener on a regular basis could make a big difference to the appearance of the place. I'm just amazed that local Councillors are doing nothing about these very visible problems - are they not aware or do they just not care?
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Post by: Ian on July 14, 2014, 08:31:10 am
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One thing CCBC don't lack is manpower. The problem is that most of them are sitting behind desks rather than actually working at the front line of public services.

So true, so very true...  :rage:
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Post by: A.L.N. (a local nobody) on July 14, 2014, 09:53:33 am

It seems the Council may be coming to their senses


A miracle then?

 &shake& &shake& &shake& &shake&


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Post by: Fester on July 14, 2014, 11:45:21 pm
I was going to have a word with one of the CCBC officials on the Prom today, about the beach issues... but he seemed a bit busy as I passed by.

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Post by: DaveR on July 15, 2014, 09:06:27 am
Is that the head of the Parks Dept?  :laugh:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 15, 2014, 09:20:04 am
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Post by: DaveR on July 15, 2014, 01:17:34 pm
Saw this interesting car on the Prom yesterday:
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Post by: norman08 on July 15, 2014, 02:58:17 pm
Very nice to see on my walk on the prom today ,the small plaque for little Sophie is back nice and clean ,whoevere done it thank you nice touch .    But further down the bull seal still on the stones full of flies well done ccbc what ,s the excuse for not removing it .
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Post by: hollins on July 15, 2014, 03:21:12 pm
I was going to have a word with one of the CCBC officials on the Prom today, about the beach issues... but he seemed a bit busy as I passed by.

Well done Fester. That's a classic.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 15, 2014, 05:33:47 pm
Saw this interesting car on the Prom yesterday:
A  Morgan, they cost around £30k! Not a lot there for that price!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 15, 2014, 07:36:19 pm
Saw this interesting car on the Prom yesterday:
A  Morgan, they cost around £30k! Not a lot there for that price!

And it only has THREE wheels!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 16, 2014, 09:54:05 am
I saw three council gardeners working on one small flower bed by Venue Cymru yesterday. I think there's a lot of scope for more efficient deployment of staff in that dept.
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Post by: Dave on July 17, 2014, 02:08:27 pm
The last couple of times I have walked past the deck chair hire by the Cenotaph there have been loads of people about and not a single chair hired out. Could this be because there are no advertising signs and the tarpaulin is still over the chairs ? Not sure what the man in charge actually does .
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Post by: Yorkie on July 17, 2014, 04:58:32 pm
The last couple of times I have walked past the deck chair hire by the Cenotaph there have been loads of people about and not a single chair hired out. Could this be because there are no advertising signs and the tarpaulin is still over the chairs ? Not sure what the man in charge actually does .

They have signs but if the Tarp is on then there is no one there to serve the customers.    $walesflag$
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Post by: Fester on July 17, 2014, 11:18:33 pm
One of those blissful summer nights, warm and still.... which prompted me to take this walk on the beach!
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Post by: wrex on July 20, 2014, 12:30:33 pm
Nice walk around the Marine drive this morning,having walked past a small rock fall it took me a little bit toi realise that not one bike,runner or car had passed me,me and herindoors had the whole drive to ourselves,very strange feeling for a hot Sunday morning,by the time we reached the Happy valley it had just re-opened
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Post by: Nemesis on July 20, 2014, 12:43:47 pm
'Twas shut to vehicles for a cycle race !! ;D
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Post by: Nemesis on July 21, 2014, 12:09:57 pm
My OH has just come in with the news that the Marine Drive is shut from the pier end still, apparently the group of cyclists which he saw yesterday had managed to dodge through the side gate which is now shut.

The rock fall has been cleared, but the engineers cannot check the area until Wednesday. The only trouble is that they haven't stopped people setting off in the other direction.

It all sounds chaotic !
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Post by: Yorkie on July 21, 2014, 12:28:53 pm
Marine Drive round the Orme is "managed" by the County Parking Manager.  Obviously not as efficient as previous holder of the position!   
 :D
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Post by: Ian on July 22, 2014, 04:00:57 pm
78F (26C) in Llandudno at the moment.  Much hotter than forecast.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 22, 2014, 07:15:47 pm
Anyone know why the 5 and 5x don;t go to the West Shore like the 12,they are still mking that dangerous swing across Gloddaeth ave,very very dangerous.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 22, 2014, 07:42:26 pm
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wrex
Anyone know why the 5 and 5x don;t go to the West Shore like the 12,they are still mking that dangerous swing across Gloddaeth ave,very very dangerous.

Don't know of any accident involving Busses or any other vehicle at that turning point!  It is a dual carriageway and such a manoeuvre can be carried out quite safely.   There are already enough busses parked at West Shore with the No. 12.  When we passed today there were three parked around the Shelter Island.   Add a few  5 and 5X and chaos reigns.
 ZXZ
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Post by: wrex on July 22, 2014, 10:05:18 pm
Rubbish Yorkie,very dangerous a bus useing all 4 lanes and don;t forget it has to swing from the inside lane,a crazy manouvre by any standards.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on July 23, 2014, 08:33:06 am
So really yorkie it is the timetable that wants looking at ,since they bought the new Llandudno/Rhyl bus out ,a bus every 10mins no need for that ,I have seen a few near misses when the buses are turning there.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 23, 2014, 08:56:46 am
Rubbish Yorkie,very dangerous a bus useing all 4 lanes and don;t forget it has to swing from the inside lane,a crazy manouvre by any standards.

You are talking through your hat, Wrex!  What are the breaks in the central reservation for, but anything other than traffic to change their direction of travel.  By you analogy it is dangerous for any vehicle to use the gaps, lorries, bread vans, decorator's vans with ladders on board or indeed any long vehicle!  Get a life, man! 

If it was considered dangerous the road would be full of signs prohibiting the manouver.

Norman08,  the reason for the number is that they run every 10 minutes and drivers need a break.   

Find, something less stupid to complain about, and instead of moaning and groaning on this Forum all the time, get off your ass and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

 :D ZXZ

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2014, 09:09:29 am
So really yorkie it is the timetable that wants looking at ,since they bought the new Llandudno/Rhyl bus out ,a bus every 10mins no need for that
You obviously don't travel on the bus much, Norman! Even with a 10 minute frequency, the buses are packed in the Summer months.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 23, 2014, 09:27:22 am
Not only that they regularly back up and one can wait up to an hour to catch a number 12, just as one of our daughters did last week in Colwyn Bay around 4pm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on July 23, 2014, 02:31:48 pm
A planning application has gone in with Conwy for no1 Mostyn Street (late WG's Gift Shop, and previously Wonderllandudno). The drawing's show prominently that it's going to be a Starbucks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 23, 2014, 02:35:15 pm
Planning notice outside the old Sewing Machine shop in Upper Mostyn Street to convert it to offices. A Flint
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Post by: Greyhound on July 23, 2014, 02:41:13 pm
Re: Sewing Machine Shop - That's probably quite a good change of use in that area. Lots of passers-by to look in the window. More than on Madoc Street. Plus nice big plate glass windows to display the properties for sale. Makes sense.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on July 23, 2014, 03:26:03 pm
No suprise considering landlords of building are very very closely associated to the Flint business
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Post by: Mikethewatch on July 23, 2014, 03:49:21 pm
Air Ambulance just landed near Kwik Fit!
 
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Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2014, 03:51:47 pm
A planning application has gone in with Conwy for no1 Mostyn Street (late WG's Gift Shop, and previously Wonderllandudno). The drawing's show prominently that it's going to be a Starbucks.
Interesting, yet more coffee in Llandudno! 42 seats inside, 24 seats outside.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2014, 03:55:47 pm
No suprise considering landlords of building are very very closely associated to the Flint business
You mean Gamlins own the Anthony Flint estate agency, Cat?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 23, 2014, 04:36:17 pm
Gridlock in town due to car crash by Retail Park - avoid!
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Post by: Mikethewatch on July 23, 2014, 04:47:23 pm
A PENSIONER has been hit by a car in a "serious incident" in Llandudno.

The woman in her 70s was airlifted to hospital after the collision with a Volkswagen Golf on Conway Road at about 3.15pm today (Wednesday)

Police, paramedics and an air ambulance attended the scene outside the Kwik Fit garage.

The road is still closed and traffic has built up in the area with diversions in place.

A Welsh Ambulance Service spokesperson said: “At 3.18pm today, Wednesday July 23, we were called to reports a car had collided with a pedestrian on Conway Road in Llandudno.

"A crew in an emergency ambulance and a Wales Air Ambulance responded, and a woman in her 70s with serious injuries was airlifted to Ysbyty Glan Clwyd.”
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Post by: Mikethewatch on July 23, 2014, 04:49:00 pm
Took a long time to get there, given call was at 3.18 and I witnessed leaning at 3.49
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Post by: SDQ on July 23, 2014, 05:18:45 pm
Took a long time to get there, given call was at 3.18 and I witnessed leaning at 3.49


31 minutes from taking the call to having the helicopter touch down seems pretty good to me. The decision to use the helicopter is usually taken by the crew on the ground after they have assessed the situation don't forget, plus the helicopter could be at the other end of the county when it receives the call as they have quite a large area to cover.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 24, 2014, 04:54:55 pm
I've heard that there has been another rock slide on the Marine Drive and  near the West Shore toll house.  I don't know how bad it is but was told that the Police are stopping traffic and pedestrians from going past.
I had a walk on the old Monk's Path above the Toll house about 2 weeks ago and some parts looked extremely vulnerable to erosion problems, particularly this bit on the right of the photo. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-28469099 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-28469099)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 24, 2014, 06:04:27 pm
Indeed, road closed completely., even to some pedestrians.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 24, 2014, 06:54:42 pm
Indeed, road closed completely., even to some pedestrians.

At one time CCBC had regular weekly inspections of the whole of Marine Drive, carried out by an outside engineer.  I don't know if it is correct, but I think these inspections were stopped a few years ago, probably in a cost cutting exercise.

There was at least one death from a rockfall at the West Shore end some years ago.  The place was in the area where the rock face has been covered in metal netting or mesh.

The last major closure was at the time of the floods when a lot of rock was washed down and parts of the road surface undermined.

I presume that there will be a rethink about some of the climbing routes and the "no climbing above the road during the school holidays" extended.
 ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 24, 2014, 10:13:27 pm
They have fenced off the old Monk's Path for Health and safety reasons but some rocks continue to come down.  This rock came down about 2 years ago at the same place but the fence stopped it from going onto the Marine Drive.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2014, 08:25:32 am
Indeed, road closed completely., even to some pedestrians.
So Llys Helig Drive residents have to go right round the Orme to get into town?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 25, 2014, 09:43:19 am
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So Llys Helig Drive residents have to go right round the Orme to get into town?

That's right.  And not just right round;  they had to ascend the zig zags as the toll booth had locked the gates across. And they weren't too pleased. Not sure if it's opened today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 25, 2014, 02:21:49 pm
Yes. My OH has driven round this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on July 26, 2014, 12:45:16 pm
Well we can now see what has been going on behind all that scaffolding on the Alexandra Hotel.
I'm sure there was good reason but hard to understand why the work has been going on for the best part of 18 months.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on July 26, 2014, 02:12:38 pm
I'm sure the businesses entangled within it all must be asking the same question too!
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Post by: Michael on July 26, 2014, 08:56:39 pm
  NOW I KNOW why I have been meeting so many top of the range motors struggling up Tyn y Coed hill with drivers who obviously were, shall I say, rather incapable of handling their bits of machinery. Welcome to Llys Helig residents
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Post by: Ian on July 27, 2014, 07:29:44 am
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Post by: Yorkie on July 27, 2014, 06:38:16 pm
Yes. My OH has driven round this morning.

We went up via the Tram Track today. Coming back down via the Rectory Tea Garden that were, there was a Road Closed sign at the Rectory gate.  It was chaos with most cars trying to turn round in the restricted space.   I managed to get past and continue the journey down to the drive, which was fully open.  Another typical mess up by CCBC for not clearing the signs properly when it was reopened!

 :rage:
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Post by: wrex on July 27, 2014, 08:17:03 pm
i would have moved the sign knowing it was open or would have informed the rest and be thankfull he was losing money
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 27, 2014, 08:32:08 pm
Perhaps at the time Yorkie didn't know if the road would be open? Only guessing!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 27, 2014, 09:13:14 pm
i would have moved the sign knowing it was open or would have informed the rest and be thankfull he was losing money

Well, Wrex it was a pity you were not there.  It was impossible to get out of the car due to the close proximity of the other vehicles and the fence!  I may have lost a little weight, but not that much.

The Rest and be Thankful was extremely busy with many cars both on the carriageway and in the car park, so my intervention would probably have generated a laughing fit from the person running the place. 

Plus the fact that, IF I had moved the sign, there would have been no point in advising the R & BT, would there?
 :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 27, 2014, 09:53:29 pm
Well i take it no one was collecting at the bottom of the zig zag then.
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Post by: wrex on July 27, 2014, 09:57:03 pm
With Llandudno getting all these plaudits on trip advisor as the best resort i can only imagine CCBC ploughing millions more into the Bay until it gets a mention,and it will continue to run our budget down.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2014, 07:22:58 am
Well i take it no one was collecting at the bottom of the zig zag then.

The toll collection at the bottom of the zig zag road has not been there for a few years now!    You really must get out more, Wrex! 
 $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 28, 2014, 08:48:01 am
Well i take it no one was collecting at the bottom of the zig zag then.

The toll collection at the bottom of the zig zag road has not been there for a few years now!    You really must get out more, Wrex! 
 $walesflag$

The hut went over 12 months ago !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2014, 07:41:50 pm
An ice cream van was parked on the lawn on the Prom all afternoon in breach of the Prom Trading rules. Maybe the deckchair inspectors were too short sighted to spot it?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2014, 07:58:40 pm
I also noticed that local businesses are now being allowed to advertise on the 'Morris Columns' scattered around town - they used to be strictly for events and attractions only. I wonder how much it costs to advertise on there?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on July 28, 2014, 08:57:45 pm
An ice cream van was parked on the lawn on the Prom all afternoon in breach of the Prom Trading rules. Maybe the deckchair inspectors were too short sighted to spot it?

Deck chair inspectors have no powers to do anything.  Once we had a By-laws Inspector but he (or they) went years ago!  I don't think the Council have any of their staff authorised to persecute or prosecute for ordinary By-laws infringements.

There was a Promenade Inspector some years ago but his job changed into manning the Imperial Slipway.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on July 28, 2014, 09:00:57 pm
Dave, I can tell you that to advertise on the Morris columns costs a WHOLE HEAP OF MONEY. Eye watering. Mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 29, 2014, 07:46:08 pm
We're currently enjoying Llandudno Swing Band on the Prom:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 29, 2014, 07:58:31 pm
Looks popular!
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Post by: Mikethewatch on July 29, 2014, 08:08:21 pm
Was going to pop down myself but hate standing
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Post by: DVT on July 29, 2014, 08:44:44 pm
Ref the ice cream van ...

I understood that trading on the Prom was a strict No-No.  If you have an event or display there, such as the ones I'm involved with, you have to apply for a permit to be allowed to collect for charity - event programme money goes to charity, you cannot actually sell them.

Perhaps our problem is doing things correctly.  If you have cheek and take your chance you can get away with it!  No-one around to ask questions.
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Post by: Yorkie on July 29, 2014, 08:45:50 pm
Was going to pop down myself but hate standing

Looks like there are a few empty seats.   ZXZ
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Post by: DaveR on July 29, 2014, 09:32:49 pm
There was about 100 people there, but most chose to sit along the seating along the back of the Prom. It was a great show and everyone enjoyed it. Well done to Clive Wolfendale and the Band.
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Post by: Michael on July 30, 2014, 09:12:46 pm
  Hope I am in the correct thread. A few days Dave R posted about private adverts v. Theatre adverts on the Morris columns.
  We'll --- the Great Orme Family Golf is definitely private and has been on the Morris columns for upwards of two years!!
  How?  There are about 24 individual spaces on each column. One of these is taken by a group known as the Llandudno attractions with 12 members of which the golf is one. Every one has a twelfth of the space to advertise itself.
  So ---  the golf is there for the world to read. Unfortunately 24 multiplied by 12 comes to one part of 288 (I think!!!) so you might need a magnifying glass BUT IT IS THERE.
  And Dave R didn't know. The golf courses mentor, guardian and supporter in all many of ways right from inception under my ownership. OOOhhhh Sob Sob
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 31, 2014, 05:58:19 pm
  The golf courses mentor, guardian and supporter in all many of ways right from inception under my ownership.
*bows*
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Post by: Gwynant on August 03, 2014, 09:41:25 am
  Very striking rainbow over Llandudno as I was going out to get the papers at about 7.30 this morning.
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Post by: systema on August 03, 2014, 10:22:25 am
Yes it looked really beautiful from the seafront and we didn't have a camera with us.
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Post by: systema on August 03, 2014, 08:01:11 pm
No photos of Today's  WW1 march. ???

We were there but our camera is on the blink so none to post.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 05, 2014, 09:27:44 am
can't find all of Fester's rantings on Llandudno swimming pool, have they be moved?
But one to add to it, I saw somebody complaining about a couple getting up to inappropriate behaviour IN the pool.
This was on facebook so make of it what you will, won't post the link here as some of the language is not PC
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Post by: DaveR on August 05, 2014, 09:37:30 am
can't find all of Fester's rantings on Llandudno swimming pool, have they be moved?
But one to add to it, I saw somebody complaining about a couple getting up to inappropriate behaviour IN the pool.
This was on facebook so make of it what you will, won't post the link here as some of the language is not PC
Swimming Pool thread:
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1787.0.html (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1787.0.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: craigollerton on August 05, 2014, 03:25:03 pm
I see it's looking rather fine there...  8)

http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/ (http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 05, 2014, 05:34:07 pm
I see it's looking rather fine there...  8)

http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/ (http://www.llandudno-weather.co.uk/)

Actually it is like this.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 10, 2014, 09:38:10 pm
THV Patricia is currently sheltering in Llandudno Bay, it is the flagship of the Trinity House fleet.
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Post by: wrex on August 23, 2014, 04:39:08 pm
Absolutely no news,no developments,no new shops and nobody putting up on here,very quiet
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Post by: Fester on August 23, 2014, 08:38:58 pm
Absolutely no news,no developments,no new shops and nobody putting up on here,very quiet

The town is very quiet Wrex, eerily quiet for a Bank Holiday Saturday.
At 8pm, Upper Mostyn Street has few people in the pubs and restaurants... something is wrong.
Colwyn Bay have a Prom weekend this weekend.... is everyone there?   Is it the chilly weather??

Many people on the Pier reporting 'record low' takings for an August.
I'm not surprised, there is no one about to sell anything to!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 23, 2014, 09:04:33 pm
Comment from people who passed through Colwyn Bay this morning--" Nothing was happening"
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Post by: Ian on August 24, 2014, 07:56:02 am
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Colwyn Bay have a Prom weekend this weekend.... is everyone there?   Is it the chilly weather??

The Prom day is clearly going to compete, although today (Sunday) should be better for Llandudno. FWIW, the forecast is the single thing that seems to make or break things for those who rely on tourism in the area. A dodgy forecast militates against the impulse visitors, who seem to decide to stay home and do some much needed jobs if the forecast's poor. The annoying thing is that they rarely get it right: Llandudno so often escapes the rain, even when the surrounding areas are getting it in buckets.
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Post by: Fester on August 25, 2014, 01:01:49 am
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Colwyn Bay have a Prom weekend this weekend.... is everyone there?   Is it the chilly weather??

The Prom day is clearly going to compete, although today (Sunday) should be better for Llandudno. FWIW, the forecast is the single thing that seems to make or break things for those who rely on tourism in the area. A dodgy forecast militates against the impulse visitors, who seem to decide to stay home and do some much needed jobs if the forecast's poor. The annoying thing is that they rarely get it right: Llandudno so often escapes the rain, even when the surrounding areas are getting it in buckets.

Ian, You got that right, in so many ways!
On Saturday night I was looking at the BBC weather forecast online..... (a windy but dry day),   when suddenly the BBC weather forecast came on the telly just before Match of the Day.    (A very rainy and windy day)
The same organizstion,  with two entirely different forecasts???   OK, well they agreed on the likelihood of strong winds.

But, as it happened, it was a very STILL and warm day, entirely dry until about 8pm.
As you say,  why would people spend £30 on petrol, a fortune on parking etc, if they were unsure about the weather?

Another thing you got right,  Llandudno was much busier than Saturday, many events on in town, and I can report the best takings I have EVER had.
Therefore I resorted to serious drinking at Headstock and the surrounding pubs,   why not spread the good times around!
 Z** ZXZ  $good$ D) ZXZ &well& $happy$ $drink1$ $drink1$



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2014, 10:15:18 am
On line today Metcheck and the BBC have 2 entirely different forecasts. One says rain all day, the other rain later this aft.

Fester-- quite enjoyed the sounds from Headstock during the afternoon, but it seemed very quiet later on. What happened. ?
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Post by: Yorkie on August 25, 2014, 11:47:59 am
The Weather App on my iPad gives a pretty accurate report for each day and the 2 or 3 day forecast is  not that far out.  What I find most intriguing is that the forecasts for Penrhyn Bay and Llandudno do have slight differences which generally reflect the true situation between the two, relatively close, places.  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 25, 2014, 01:02:36 pm
Have to admit to ignoring the Llandudno/Colwyn Bay activities over the weekend and head to Liverpool/Ormskirk.  BBC weather forecast showed thunder and lighting Saturday afternoon and heavy rain most of Sunday for that area.  A few spots of rain in Liverpool, Ormskirk was warm and sunny Sunday until the clouds appeared on the horizon late afternoon, as we were leaving.

Reason for going there - daughter and husband live in Liverpool so stayed there the night then went to the Ormskirk Motorfest.  A fine display of cars - all types, old, new, big, small, fast, slow, 3 and 4 wheels, p,us motor-cycles in the shopping area (pedestrianised zone) and the nearby park.  There was also a funfair for the kids, far enough away not to trouble the serious enthusiasts looking at the cars, stalls to raise money for charity, brass band, a chance to ride in a rally car around a course (donations to NW Ambulance) and the road around the town was closed on two occasions for a procession of the various cars that were displayed.

Arrived and easily found a parking spot in a pay and display car park - no charge as it was weekend.  No admission fee to get into the park, loads of people enjoying the displays.  The only thing overpriced as the ice cream at £2.50 for a 99 - although we did find a different vendor charging £2.20!!!

It was estimated beforehand that 25000 people would attend - there was certainly a lot but how many put off by the weather forecast, I wonder - we were between two minds ourselves until we got up Sunday morning and saw clear skies!  I'm sure many similar events also suffer from the weather forecasts rather than the actual weather.
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Post by: born2run on August 27, 2014, 10:50:42 am
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the forecast is the single thing that seems to make or break things for those who rely on tourism in the area. A dodgy forecast militates against the impulse visitors, who seem to decide to stay home and do some much needed jobs if the forecast's poor. The annoying thing is that they rarely get it right: Llandudno so often escapes the rain, even when the surrounding areas are getting it in buckets.


I was in Cornwall it was quieter than usual there too. Was supposed to be the worst traffic imaginable but we got there Saturday and back Monday without hitting any!
Definitely people staying in and saving some pennies and the weather I think
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Post by: Dave on August 27, 2014, 10:42:53 pm
http://www.westminstercollection.com/p-202C/The-LLandudno-First-Day-of-Issue-Postcard.aspx?sn=5&gclid=CKer9vSztMACFa7KtAodXRoA2A (http://www.westminstercollection.com/p-202C/The-LLandudno-First-Day-of-Issue-Postcard.aspx?sn=5&gclid=CKer9vSztMACFa7KtAodXRoA2A)

A new stamp coming out soon and a rather odd advert. Free to all residents of Llandudno with just a £1 charge to cover postage (60p?) and packing. It's a postcard, why not just post it !
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 27, 2014, 10:53:10 pm
I notice that they have put the stamp on the wrong side of the postcard, perhaps that us why they can't post it as it is? I expect that anyone replying will forever get junk mail from Westminster Collection!  ££$
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Post by: Fester on August 28, 2014, 12:52:08 am
A little belatedly,  I thought I would show you just how busy the Headstock event was on Sunday night,  a great event.
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Post by: Ian on August 28, 2014, 02:17:54 pm
Today I monitored the forecast almost continuously and at 1000 it showed heavy rain as imminent, both on the met forecast and rain radar.  It's now 1420 and we've seen nothing.
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Post by: norman08 on August 28, 2014, 02:46:22 pm
Well Ian I got wet on the prom at 10 30 only a shower though
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Post by: Ian on August 28, 2014, 02:53:26 pm
Yes; a few folk have told me it was raining briefly on the prom. Nothing like as bad as they forecast.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 28, 2014, 03:40:30 pm
We had a couple of quick light showers around 10.30 to 11.00 in rhos this morning!
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Post by: Gwynant on August 28, 2014, 04:12:53 pm
            Ian, we were out walking on the Orme this morning and you could see the rain squalls coming in over from Anglesey and we got caught twice while walking round the park wall at about 1030 and again at 1115, heavy squalls but they blew through quickly on the stiff breeze. By the time we had come back past the half-way station and dropped in to say hello to Mike on the golf course it was beautiful and we walked back down through Haulfre and Invalids walk to the West Shore where it was very busy on the beach and the donkeys were doing good business as well. It was good to get out walking again after my recent hip replacement and being restricted during the good weather in June and July!
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Post by: born2run on August 28, 2014, 04:14:03 pm
I went out to play SMITE at lunch time and the weather was lovely.

If you're unaware of what smite is - it's a beautiful and addictive game from Cornwall - who's world championships I competed in for the second time on the weekend.
I may not be brilliant at Scrabble and Darts but I can honestly I'm one of the top smiters in the world  $good$

Cornish Smite on Trans World Sport (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_mXPmO4bLc#ws)
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Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2014, 05:59:56 pm
Looks good fun for everybody, I'll keep my eye out for future events... $good$
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Post by: snowcap on August 28, 2014, 09:11:09 pm
I can see why people get "Smitten" with it (Thought I,d get it in before yorkie did)
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Post by: Yorkie on August 28, 2014, 09:16:38 pm
It reminds me of the stalls at fun fairs where one tries to get rings over similarly shaped posts.   Smite is maybe a little easier!   :D
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Post by: snowcap on August 28, 2014, 09:22:43 pm
it was nigh on impossible to get the rings on to those things, i never saw anyone win.
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Post by: Michael on August 28, 2014, 10:21:38 pm
  Changing the subject, but it is connected to Llandudno.

  This is definitely blowing my own trumpet, but I must tell someone. And I am by myself in my flat with my laptop. So who else can I tell?

   The golf course is fourth on the list of attractions in Llandudno according to Trip Advisers reviews. I can hardly believe this, but there it is on your computer screen for everyone to read.

   The list is highly volatile. One business which was leading me until a week or so ago has plunged to 14th. Because of around four lukewarm reviews.

   So I don't know how long this position will last, but for the moment I am shouting to everyone.
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Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2014, 10:42:31 pm
Well done Mike, you put a lot of effort and hours into what you do so you deserve the recognition.   Next week No 1  perhaps?

 &well&          :golf:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on August 28, 2014, 11:17:20 pm
start playing smite at the side of your shed it may promote you to no1
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 29, 2014, 01:10:53 am
I went out to play SMITE at lunch time and the weather was lovely.

If you're unaware of what smite is - it's a beautiful and addictive game from Cornwall - who's world championships I competed in for the second time on the weekend.
I may not be brilliant at Scrabble and Darts but I can honestly I'm one of the top smiters in the world  $good$

Cornish Smite on Trans World Sport (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_mXPmO4bLc#ws)

B2R, I can't even be bothered to click on the link to see what it is,   but whatever it is, I will play you at it... for money!

Mike,  I must congratulate you on that fantastic achievement,  borne out of hard work, resilience, and the natural urge to deliver a good value product to your delighted customers.
You are a lesson to HUNDREDS of businesses in this area.   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 29, 2014, 08:26:37 am
It's also not a little to do with the fact that Mike's a great bloke, who's always smiling.  Great stuff, Mike.  You deserve it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 29, 2014, 08:54:57 am
It reminds me of the stalls at fun fairs where one tries to get rings over similarly shaped posts.   Smite is maybe a little easier!   :D

There is a game pretty much exactly the same as that called Quoits. There's lots of different versions, Evesham Quoits is my personal favourite.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 29, 2014, 08:57:50 am
I went out to play SMITE at lunch time and the weather was lovely.

If you're unaware of what smite is - it's a beautiful and addictive game from Cornwall - who's world championships I competed in for the second time on the weekend.
I may not be brilliant at Scrabble and Darts but I can honestly I'm one of the top smiters in the world  $good$

Cornish Smite on Trans World Sport (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_mXPmO4bLc#ws)



B2R, I can't even be bothered to click on the link to see what it is,   but whatever it is, I will play you at it... for money!

Mike,  I must congratulate you on that fantastic achievement,  borne out of hard work, resilience, and the natural urge to deliver a good value product to your delighted customers.
You are a lesson to HUNDREDS of businesses in this area.   $good$

Any time any place any amount of money you wish Fester $good$ Better if it's not too windy though, don't want you fluking it.

Mike's golf course is brilliant AND really good value for money in this day and age.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on August 29, 2014, 07:55:30 pm
Well done Mike - you deserve it!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 29, 2014, 11:58:03 pm
It's also not a little to do with the fact that Mike's a great bloke, who's always smiling.  Great stuff, Mike.  You deserve it!

..... and so say all of us!   $good$ $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 30, 2014, 11:51:54 am
A couple of bikes from today's event.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 30, 2014, 09:06:35 pm
  So you would describe them as bikes. When I was young three wheeled vehicles considerably smaller in width and length were just called 3 wheelers but always accepted as a modified car or van. The only difference I suppose in those days you were covered with some sort of roof over your head, so that might have been slightly higher.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 30, 2014, 09:35:29 pm
No not really Mike-- more like pieces of furniture on wheels !
I did go down to watch them all drive past, which was quite spectacular with all the lights, costumes and noise. Some even had the family dogs in trailers, all very smart. Trouble was it threw it down, so I arrived home in rather a soggy state !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on August 30, 2014, 10:45:03 pm
A nice illegal number plate if it went on the road?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 31, 2014, 08:33:52 am
Looking round the town it makes me wonder how many of the cars, let alone bikes, are actually legal ! :o There are some very strange layouts of letters and numbers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 31, 2014, 09:04:22 am
The answer is probably that they are not legal but the Police seem to turn a blind eye to the offence.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 31, 2014, 09:32:32 am
The answer is probably that they are not legal but the Police seem to turn a blind eye to the offence.   
A nice illegal number plate if it went on the road?

From my own experience I can tell you these folk would be picked up very quickly if they were on the public highway.  I was pulled three times in 5 miles on one occasion!

With my car club and also many other motoring clubs, they have what are referred to as "Show Plates".  These are generally only a temporary fix with DS Tape or Velchro, whilst at the show, and come off for normal road use.    :D

Anyone who drove with that plate is just asking for a ticket, which could mean walking home!  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 31, 2014, 10:44:26 am
Amazing how many illegally spaced personal plates you see on the road, yet seem to keep driving around.  I'm sure the important part is that it can be read clearly (especially by cameras), and Police may have better things to do!  On those pictured above it's the font that's illegal, which makes them more difficult to read.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on August 31, 2014, 10:48:37 am
Amazing how many illegally spaced personal plates you see on the road, yet seem to keep driving around.  I'm sure the important part is that it can be read clearly (especially by cameras), and Police may have better things to do!  On those pictured above it's the font that's illegal, which makes them more difficult to read.


With the new changes to road tax after October 1st I think any plate which cannot be read by an ANPR camera will be deemed illegal, be it the font, spacing etc...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on August 31, 2014, 12:57:59 pm

With the new changes to road tax after October 1st I think any plate which cannot be read by an ANPR camera will be deemed illegal, be it the font, spacing etc...

It will have to be a Police Stop, as if the plate is not readable, they can't post you a ticket!  What a lot of police time will be needed, and what a lot of ANPR Cameras will be needed to stop the tax dodgers.   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2014, 01:17:34 pm
Thought this might be helpfull, after what Yorkie and SDQ had to say. I had to gen up on it.



https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-tax-changes (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-tax-changes)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/insurance/motorinsurance/11057835/Drivers-not-adequately-warned-over-end-of-tax-discs.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/insurance/motorinsurance/11057835/Drivers-not-adequately-warned-over-end-of-tax-discs.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on August 31, 2014, 03:20:23 pm

With the new changes to road tax after October 1st I think any plate which cannot be read by an ANPR camera will be deemed illegal, be it the font, spacing etc...

It will have to be a Police Stop, as if the plate is not readable, they can't post you a ticket!  What a lot of police time will be needed, and what a lot of ANPR Cameras will be needed to stop the tax dodgers.   ZXZ


It will also make it very difficult to spot abandoned vehicles and bring an end to people 'shopping' their neighbours for not taxing their cars. I'm not sure the system will work very well until every police car has ANPR fitted. It's obviously more of a cost saving exercise for the DVLA following on from VOSA/DVSA abolishing the MOT certificate in 2012.
It'll also make it a bit tricky buying a second hand car in the future as you'll have to tax it before you drive it home. Not so bad if buying from a trader but a private sale is a different matter.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on August 31, 2014, 03:33:17 pm

With the new changes to road tax after October 1st I think any plate which cannot be read by an ANPR camera will be deemed illegal, be it the font, spacing etc...

It will have to be a Police Stop, as if the plate is not readable, they can't post you a ticket!  What a lot of police time will be needed, and what a lot of ANPR Cameras will be needed to stop the tax dodgers.   ZXZ


Look out for these vans in the near future.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2014, 04:13:49 pm
Just back from a walk on the prom, 3.30 still very busy, nice to see, but the beach, what sand is left is covered in

thick old seaweed, more than 50% is unusable, the people were all sitting around the piles, what a waste.

It would take a JCB to clear it now, considering the prom is No2 attraction on tripadvisor (Orme Golf still 4th. :D)
you would think a bit more attention would be given.  $angry$

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 31, 2014, 08:18:19 pm
Going back to the new tax disc regulations, and the fact you cannot transfer tax to the new owner when you sell privately.

Say you sell in the middle of the month ... you take the tax disc off and claim back unused months.  New owner has to tax car straight away, and will cover the month of purchase.

So ... DVLA will get that month's tax TWICE !!!

Sneaky!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on August 31, 2014, 08:28:18 pm
 I expected a negative reply to me picking on the number plate but wonder how it passed the MOT with that plate......or is it changed for that annual event?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 31, 2014, 08:32:37 pm
I expected a negative reply to me picking on the number plate but wonder how it passed the MOT with that plate......or is it changed for that annual event?

They probably change them for the mot!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2014, 08:37:26 pm
Quote
With my car club and also many other motoring clubs, they have what are referred to as "Show Plates".  These are generally only a temporary fix with DS Tape or Velchro, whilst at the show, and come off for normal road use.

As Yorkie said above.... :) ;)   We hope.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 31, 2014, 08:38:06 pm
DVT, yes very sneaky, I spotted that one ages ago! Can you imagine on a Sunday afternoon in the middle of the month buying a car and phoning DVLA to inform them of the changes and that you want to pay for the tax over the phone, madness! I can see all car sales happening at midnight at the end of the month!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on September 01, 2014, 10:40:19 am
Has anyone seen the figures on how much will be saved/made by DVLT on this exercise , balanced by the extra cost incurred by the Police and other agencies monitoring the new system.

Might be savings in Swansea probably thought up by a management trainee who has been given a project.

Have to mention this to Alex Salmond so he can give his views on a Scottish DVLT and how it will be financed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on September 01, 2014, 11:50:13 am
Just back from a walk on the prom, 3.30 still very busy, nice to see, but the beach, what sand is left is covered in

thick old seaweed, more than 50% is unusable, the people were all sitting around the piles, what a waste.

It would take a JCB to clear it now, considering the prom is No2 attraction on tripadvisor (Orme Golf still 4th. :D)
you would think a bit more attention would be given.  $angry$

The North Shore Beach has it's own seperate listing on TripAdvisor and is currently ranked the 20th best attraction in Llandudno, although it has a score of 4 out of 5 which isn't too bad (although it looks like some of the reviewers were a bit confused as to what they were reviewing).  West Shore Beach is ranked at number 11 with a score of 4.5 out of 5 which is fair enough as it is the best beach in Llandudno by some margin.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on September 01, 2014, 03:27:20 pm
Has anyone seen the figures on how much will be saved/made by DVLT on this exercise , balanced by the extra cost incurred by the Police and other agencies monitoring the new system.

Might be savings in Swansea probably thought up by a management trainee who has been given a project.

Have to mention this to Alex Salmond so he can give his views on a Scottish DVLT and how it will be financed.


They estimate it'll save taxpayers £10m per annum but don't state if that's a nett figure taking into account the policing of the new system or if that's just the saving from not issuing paper discs.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 01, 2014, 06:06:29 pm
Does this mean I can remove the 'tax in post' notice from the windscreens of my cars?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 01, 2014, 09:41:56 pm
   So North shore beach is 20th in the Trip Advisor Llandudno attractions. Doubt if they will catch up with me at fourth even if they shift all the shingle, says he smugly with a superior grin on his face
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 02, 2014, 08:29:52 am
Does this mean I can remove the 'tax in post' notice from the windscreens of my cars?

I've removed the Guiness Label after many years use!     :D   $drink$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on September 02, 2014, 10:55:33 am
What's the current situation with the Camera Obscura? I've visited Llandudno at many different times of the year and have yet to find it open or any information displayed showing potential opening times.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 02, 2014, 11:29:34 am
What's the current situation with the Camera Obscura? I've visited Llandudno at many different times of the year and have yet to find it open or any information displayed showing potential opening times.

Apparently it is open on Tuesdays from 10.00 until 4.00p.m 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on September 02, 2014, 03:12:49 pm
Thanks Yorkie. Guess what day I'm going back on? Yep, Tuesday!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 08, 2014, 08:44:40 am
A reminder that the majority of the Prom is closed to traffic today for the Tour of Britain race, diversions are in place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 08, 2014, 09:04:36 am
Also wise to avoid the Trefriw side of the river (B5106) between Llanrwst and Conwy town from about 1400 today. The tour will be making its way from Llangernyw (speed trial to Ty Gwyn) to Llanrwst at about 1400, where the tour will effectively close the A470 as it crosses the river.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 08, 2014, 10:10:45 am
Extra care needed anywhere in town, coaches seem to be just stopping anywhere and dropping people off. Plus traffic from the diversion in place on the prom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 08, 2014, 10:14:23 am
Here are the timings.

Shame nobody thought of checking the spellings for Deganwy, Bryniau Road and Venue Cymru.

http://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/files/documents/Stage_2_Knowsley_-_Llandudno_ETA_v3.0.pdf (http://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/files/documents/Stage_2_Knowsley_-_Llandudno_ETA_v3.0.pdf)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 08, 2014, 10:22:51 am
Bet I shall have a quiet afternoon in the shop ! -------Or not ? If people don't want to watch the race arrive , they will head into town. Better batten down the hatches! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on September 08, 2014, 10:55:40 pm
Star rider today ...
(http://www.anwcc.org/PICT0343.jpg)

I was amazed at the number of vehicles (over 200, I lost count!) - including over 30 police motor-cycles ...
(http://www.anwcc.org/PICT0351.jpg)

I also wondered if the middle of Llandudno has moved across the Atlantic ...
(http://www.anwcc.org/PICT0352.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 08, 2014, 11:41:16 pm
Some of the views on TV of Llandudno, Conwy and the Conwy Valley were spectacular.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 08, 2014, 11:47:43 pm
Many CCBC workmen were busy removing the traffic island between the Baytree and the Pier Gardens last week... and I suspect it was to ensure there were no obstacles for the Cycle race.  I say this because the zebra crossing stripes are still on the road.
If I'm right, I expect to see diggers, workmen and materials to re-implement it in the next few days.

If I am correct..... then WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS????   $angry$ $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andyCYD on September 09, 2014, 07:54:30 am
A few of my photos from yesterday. What a great event. Let's hope they come back next year.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10646876_10152629192878762_138362728681712864_n.jpg?oh=ab98ca5fe90d21ed1d914abb6ce6cb04&oe=5482737E&__gda__=1417856070_26f61ee97dd04a8cfec25f99b431dcf6)

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10689574_10152629193078762_1849788228686623347_n.jpg?oh=dd155369b1564403de94933a755d78c6&oe=5494919B)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10538592_10152629193258762_7254764112556101602_n.jpg?oh=9b02e0e4361b09afe2e9c454149bbfd2&oe=549730DF&__gda__=1418767392_aae1bdd96533c993e78cfeb71de7c0ba)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10363973_10152629193608762_2580129279527971956_n.jpg?oh=ec197645dcf42a875c033ec0fc39bc82&oe=5499A995&__gda__=1418065710_9e8fa1d6e802f67d2c8f45f5929ae207)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10616058_10152629193783762_8010081317487917001_n.jpg?oh=6d94985d78cad5ed3dd0fd808d021917&oe=549DBA15&__gda__=1422922243_6b238062ffd071b1fa00c2dc0e654cb4)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10659362_10152629193923762_4410117855414771065_n.jpg?oh=018b5c9158147f641b499a8fc7dd72fc&oe=54D040A2&__gda__=1418695961_e837fbd0179b0347a4c6388c6d01b106)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 09, 2014, 07:56:52 am
I can only see little blue boxes with question marks.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 09, 2014, 08:24:41 am
I can see them now! Very good!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on September 09, 2014, 08:52:32 am
Great pics. thanks for posting them. I was hoping someone would! I did watch on the television and agree with others that the views on there were excellent. They more than made up for the commentary which I thought was dire.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2014, 09:12:46 am
 $thanx$  Thanks for the Pic's,...... heard about the wally, who did'nt take the lens cap off, .......I'm the ********** who

forgot to put in the memory card.      :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 09, 2014, 11:30:22 am
Many CCBC workmen were busy removing the traffic island between the Baytree and the Pier Gardens last week... and I suspect it was to ensure there were no obstacles for the Cycle race.  I say this because the zebra crossing stripes are still on the road.
If I'm right, I expect to see diggers, workmen and materials to re-implement it in the next few days.

If I am correct..... then WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS????   $angry$ $angry$

Who-ever-- they are working on it this morning !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 09, 2014, 02:34:09 pm
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They more than made up for the commentary which I thought was dire.

It was. But aren't most?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 09, 2014, 03:12:31 pm
I have tried to post a copy of my blog on here but it doesn't seem to want to accept it !
Doesn't seem to like Flickr !
Anyway some photo's from yesterday taken as the riders made their way up the Orme. I have tried to show the whole spectacle of the event, much of which is the expectation created by so many vehicles with flashing lights, the race followers and the support crews. It can be seen if you link here:-

http://davewilliamsnaturephotography.blogspot.co.uk (http://davewilliamsnaturephotography.blogspot.co.uk)

I thought it was a super spectacle, maybe the event could be fine tuned to make life a little easier for local residents. The Zebra crossing and bus stop area  in Craig -y-Don was in chaos at 9.00am as there was traffic being filtered off the prom to enter Llandudno this way, not sure why the route via the roundabout on the prom needed to be closed, especially at 9.00am.
Watching it on TV later there certainly seemed to be a large crowd on the seafront enjoying the occasion but how many had actually brought revenue in to the town is anyone's guess.Who pays for it all, anyone have a clue ? Llandudno looked good in the sun though so hopefully it caught the attention of some on TV. As an event it's amazing how much organisation is required for what is the briefest of moments. I guess the whole circus had left town within an hour of the finish but I wasn't there to see it.
Like the Olympics, the cost is queried beforehand but it does leave a feel good factor afterwards. We should be and are proud to live in beautiful North Wales.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2014, 03:34:02 pm
Thank you Dave, excellent.....ever thought of being a pro.    ;D    $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on September 09, 2014, 03:53:59 pm
Brilliant Dave. I thought you captured the build up and the increased tension and speed really well.
I hope you don't mind but I looked through your other photos on there. The one with the sunbird and the orange flowers was my favourite but also the one with the dolphin in a vertical position is amazing.
Thank you so much for letting us view them and well done.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 09, 2014, 04:30:57 pm
Many CCBC workmen were busy removing the traffic island between the Baytree and the Pier Gardens last week... and I suspect it was to ensure there were no obstacles for the Cycle race.  I say this because the zebra crossing stripes are still on the road.
If I'm right, I expect to see diggers, workmen and materials to re-implement it in the next few days.

If I am correct..... then WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS????   $angry$ $angry$

More on this side of the subject-- a FOI enquiry tells us that the cost for shifting and reinstating said traffic island is 10K.
'The cost will be split between a number of authorities' was quoted, so we are all sharing with everyone elses expenses. :o $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 09, 2014, 04:44:04 pm
a FOI enquiry tells us that the cost for shifting and reinstating said traffic island is 10K.
You're joking! £10,000 to remove it for just one day?!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 09, 2014, 05:34:54 pm
When I last rode a bike, I found the handlebars very handy for steering around obstacles! Does seem bonkers to remove a roundabout !   *cycle* *cycle* *cycle*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 09, 2014, 05:46:56 pm
To be fair, the traffic island was in a dangerous position just before a very sharp left hand turn.

One of andyCYD's pics shows the area very well with only 2 cyclists.

It would have been a real danger for the peloton.




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2014, 05:53:24 pm
Did it have to go back, bearing in mind future event's, not a lot of forward thinking going on..... ???   ???   I have had another look at the photo, I can not believe they are putting it back, repaint the Zebra crossing and paint in an island with removable bollards, I don't know about forward thinking, is anybody thinking.....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 09, 2014, 06:12:13 pm
Certain people never do ! :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 10, 2014, 12:08:13 am
a FOI enquiry tells us that the cost for shifting and reinstating said traffic island is 10K.
You're joking! £10,000 to remove it for just one day?!!!

I thought as much, hence why I raised the issue.
I also noticed that the LLANDUDNO sign in the Happy Valley grass was freshly painted, and all the grass was cut along the dual carriageway into Llandudno, all for the TV cameras, and all for one day!
What about the areas such as Haulfre Gardens, on all the other days of the year??

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 10, 2014, 07:43:20 am
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I also noticed that the LLANDUDNO sign in the Happy Valley grass was freshly painted, and all the grass was cut along the dual carriageway into Llandudno, all for the TV cameras,

Yes - I saw that and wondered if this was to be the case for everywhere else after the event.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2014, 08:21:39 am
I also noticed that the LLANDUDNO sign in the Happy Valley grass was freshly painted, and all the grass was cut along the dual carriageway into Llandudno, all for the TV cameras, and all for one day!
What about the areas such as Haulfre Gardens, on all the other days of the year??
It just goes to show that:

1) CCBC have the money to spend when they feel like it.
2) They are concerned far more with their public image than actually providing decent public services.

 &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 10, 2014, 08:45:37 am
Well I must admit I was impressed with the Llandudno sign. Showed up really well from the air and , combined with the T.V. footage of the Gt Orme descent and then on to a sunny promenade, made Llandudno quite memorable to any viewers watching. People have always laughed when I suggest Llandudno has a lot of similarity with Nice and the Corniche of Southern France but there wasn't a lot to separate them apart on Monday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2014, 08:47:19 am
It certainly did look good. The point I was making was it was only repainted when CCBC knew the tv cameras were coming, it had been left to fade away for years previously.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 10, 2014, 10:45:18 am
Permission should (hopefully) be given today for the building of the new Lifeboat Station next to the Paddling Pool in Craig Y Don.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 11, 2014, 08:53:52 pm
Permission granted for the lifeboat station which is good news. I am wondering  why the site is by the paddling pool and not part of the new slipway by the yacht club ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 12, 2014, 09:04:39 am
Is it because the water depth is greater the nearer to the Little Orme they are? It seems to be from the charts.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2014, 10:29:25 am
Campaigners meet with firm in bid to find solution to North Shore erosion

Calls are being made for a tidal lagoon style defence system to be considered to help solve erosion problems at Llandudno's North Shore.
Members of the town’s Restore Our Beach campaign say they have met with Tidal Lagoon Power, the company behind a proposed project in Swansea, and a potential project off Colwyn Bay.
They wanted to see if a lagoon style sea defence would be feasible for Llandudno’s North Shore, which has been battered by high tides.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/lagoon-defences-being-considered-llandudno-7756396 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/lagoon-defences-being-considered-llandudno-7756396)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on September 14, 2014, 10:51:37 am
Be carefull with this.
Look what happened to the West Shore when the "experts" got involved.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2014, 11:00:42 am
Quote
Be carefull with this. Look what happened to the West Shore when the "experts" got involved.

Fluid dynamics is a notoriously tricky field, but the Lagoon concept is well understood and does have a lot of potential.  Built high enough, wide enough and with a walkable surface it could add a lot in terms of tourism.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2014, 11:20:59 am
Quote
Be carefull with this. Look what happened to the West Shore when the "experts" got involved.

Fluid dynamics is a notoriously tricky field, but the Lagoon concept is well understood and does have a lot of potential.  Built high enough, wide enough and with a walkable surface it could add a lot in terms of tourism.
Not sure what its all about, having a look, too many to link....Google.... "Tidal Lagoon system"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2554126/Worlds-energy-plant-powered-tides-lagoon-planned-Wales-System-supply-120-000-homes-Swans (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2554126/Worlds-energy-plant-powered-tides-lagoon-planned-Wales-System-supply-120-000-homes-Swans)



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2014, 05:16:58 pm
Three Towns Forum development plan September 2014

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP15_Llandudno_CA_Management_Plan.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP15_Llandudno_CA_Management_Plan.pdf)
 http://w

ww.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP14___Conservation_Areas.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP14___Conservation_Areas.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2014, 09:25:01 am
Three Towns Forum development plan September 2014

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP15_Llandudno_CA_Management_Plan.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP15_Llandudno_CA_Management_Plan.pdf)
 http://w

ww.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP14___Conservation_Areas.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP14___Conservation_Areas.pdf)
The main problem in the Conservation Areas is poor maintenance of public areas by CCBC themselves:

"The street scene in all Conservation Areas plays an important role in determining its
character. Careful consideration needs to be given to the treatment of features such as
surfacing materials and finishes, street furniture,"


Is this why CCBC has recently installed modern aluminium street lights in the Llandudno Conservation area?

"Historic paving materials survive in a number of places and add a distinctive quality to the
public realm. "


This doesn't stop CCBC removing the paving and replacing it with tarmac on many occasions in the Llandudno Conservation Area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 16, 2014, 10:56:58 am
Three Towns Forum development plan September 2014
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP15_Llandudno_CA_Management_Plan.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP15_Llandudno_CA_Management_Plan.pdf)
 http://w
ww.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP14___Conservation_Areas.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/613/LDP14___Conservation_Areas.pdf)
The main problem in the Conservation Areas is poor maintenance of public areas by CCBC themselves:
"The street scene in all Conservation Areas plays an important role in determining its
character. Careful consideration needs to be given to the treatment of features such as
surfacing materials and finishes, street furniture,"

Is this why CCBC has recently installed modern aluminium street lights in the Llandudno Conservation area?
i]"Historic paving materials survive in a number of places and add a distinctive quality to the
public realm. "[/i]
This doesn't stop CCBC removing the paving and replacing it with tarmac on many occasions in the Llandudno Conservation Area.

It appeared to me, they were saying all the right things, in fact I thought I  was reading a piece from the "Business Improvement District" search.
But, in reality you could take each section and find fault, just as Dave did above.

“The measure of a great civilisation is in its cities, and the measure of a city’s greatness is
to be found in the quality of its public spaces, its parks and square” - John Ruskin
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 16, 2014, 01:31:54 pm
“The measure of a great civilisation is in its cities, and the measure of a city’s greatness is
to be found in the quality of its public spaces, its parks and square” - John Ruskin
What a great quote, I wholeheartedly agree.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 16, 2014, 02:07:17 pm
“The measure of a great civilisation is in its cities, and the measure of a city’s greatness is
to be found in the quality of its public spaces, its parks and square” - John Ruskin
What a great quote, I wholeheartedly agree.  $good$
I liked it too, but  cannot take credit for it, as I said before "they appear to say all the right things" and this quote is from their "conservation report"    so they know what they need to do, but when.....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2014, 08:53:44 am
“The measure of a great civilisation is in its cities, and the measure of a city’s greatness is
to be found in the quality of its public spaces, its parks and square” - John Ruskin
What a great quote, I wholeheartedly agree.  $good$
I liked it too, but  cannot take credit for it, as I said before "they appear to say all the right things" and this quote is from their "conservation report"    so they know what they need to do, but when.....
Yes, the problem is that the words in the Report do not match their actions on the street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Karen and Derek on September 17, 2014, 11:55:12 am
Looks like The Parade pub has been given a new name and appears to be have been developed as a wine bar.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 17, 2014, 02:59:28 pm
The old Slipway by the Imperial Hotel was being removed today:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on September 17, 2014, 06:20:55 pm
I see arch motors (maesdu rd) have put a planning application in for change of use ,to a convenience store and housing
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on September 17, 2014, 06:29:34 pm
I see arch motors (maesdu rd) have put a planning application in for change of use ,to a convenience store and housing

That will please those that have complained about Arch Motors and Simpson's Yard for years.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 18, 2014, 10:06:34 am
Talks over the voluntary merger of two North Wales councils could be given the go ahead tomorrow.

Councillors in Conwy are holding a special meeting to vote on whether to open discussions with Denbighshire as the Welsh Government seeks agreements to cut the 22 local authorities in Wales.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-could-open-discussions-7789434 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-could-open-discussions-7789434)

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/denbighshire-council--chief-calls-7732074 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/denbighshire-council--chief-calls-7732074)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 18, 2014, 10:44:33 am
Just like to give this group a mention, they do a great job.   $good$

Neighbourhood Watch Shop scoops award
 
Five volunteers who spend time running the Neighbourhood Watch Drop in Centre in Llandudno were nominated for the ‘County Voluntary Service Council Wards’ category of the High Sheriff of Clwyd 2014 Community Awards and won!
http://www.north-wales.police.uk/news__appeals/latest_news/neighbourhood_watch_shop.aspx (http://www.north-wales.police.uk/news__appeals/latest_news/neighbourhood_watch_shop.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 18, 2014, 07:46:28 pm
   Simpson's scrap yard. I would imagine that this business would be amongst the longest standing businesses in the same situation  operating in the same way in the whole of Llandudno.
   It has been there for absolutely years and years. Long, long before any houses were around there. Thats one reason they have always resisted all the complaints about their operation. We were here first, when we were in the middle of nowhere. I personally remember going there for bits and pieces of prewar cars at least 70 years ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 18, 2014, 07:50:36 pm
   And just down the road. Its a long time since anything at all has happened on the chunk of desolate land between the railway station and Builder street, apart from the summer annual fair.
   But --- I spotted a JCB type digger up to something on the site a couple of days ago. Only one, mind you. So don't expect Sainsburys to appear overnight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 18, 2014, 08:53:03 pm
Talks over the voluntary merger of two North Wales councils could be given the go ahead tomorrow.

Councillors in Conwy are holding a special meeting to vote on whether to open discussions with Denbighshire as the Welsh Government seeks agreements to cut the 22 local authorities in Wales.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-could-open-discussions-7789434 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-could-open-discussions-7789434)

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/denbighshire-council--chief-calls-7732074 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/denbighshire-council--chief-calls-7732074)

So... that is a great example of holding a meeting, to discuss whether they should have some meetings!   &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 18, 2014, 09:49:45 pm
   Fester, Surely you as a drinking man has at some time agreed to meet friends in a pub to discuss which pubs they would visit that evening. I know I have.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 18, 2014, 10:35:39 pm
   Fester, Surely you as a drinking man has at some time agreed to meet friends in a pub to discuss which pubs they would visit that evening. I know I have.

Yes Mike, but I have never gone to meet chaps in a pub, purely to discuss the feasibility of a later meeting in the pub!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2014, 08:17:08 am
I see arch motors (maesdu rd) have put a planning application in for change of use ,to a convenience store and housing

That will please those that have complained about Arch Motors and Simpson's Yard for years.
Arthur has been trying to sell the place for 5 years at least, but contaminated land issues have always been the problem.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2014, 08:20:48 am
Very misty first thing this morning:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 21, 2014, 09:51:31 pm
Nice walk around the Orme today,very pleasant but somehow i missed a pod of dolphins,gutted,people kept saying did you see them,can;t beleive it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 22, 2014, 08:41:48 am
MAN RESCUED: A man was rescued after being found in the water off Llandudno at 1.30am today.

HM Coastguard said the person was discovered yards into the sea off Craig y Don and Llandudno lifeboat was launched.

But police officers go to him first. He was unharmed.

wwwe.dailypost.co.uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on September 22, 2014, 06:35:23 pm
At the Wales in Bloom Award Ceremony held at  Gwesty Glan yr Afon Hotel in Usk on 18th September, Llandudno won first prize in Class 3 Town Trophy with 164 marks, Silver Gilt. Some good news $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 23, 2014, 08:19:37 am
The official end of Summer in Llandudno...the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don has been emptied.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 23, 2014, 08:25:31 am
Happy autumn equinox today!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2014, 04:46:54 pm

http://search.conwy.gov.uk/search.aspx?pckid=21&aid=368692&pt=6018936&sw=venue+cymru+post+audit+results+2013%2F14&Submit=Search (http://search.conwy.gov.uk/search.aspx?pckid=21&aid=368692&pt=6018936&sw=venue+cymru+post+audit+results+2013%2F14&Submit=Search)

Looking for something else, found this, bits of interest,like below, but you will have to look for them.

Develop our Events Strategy with key stakeholders to maximise the use of our key
assets e.g. water sports, outdoor activities, cultural events, Theatr Colwyn, Venue
Cymru and Parc Eirias.
 

 The Events Strategy is the key document for ensuring this corporate outcome is achieved.
Having a Strategy in place has been fundamental to the success we have had in attracting a
number of events of major significance that have brought valuable economic benefits to the
County. Since 2010 we have attracted events of the S4C Wales Ladies Golf Championships
of Europe, Rally Fest, Commonwealth Mountain and Ultra Distance Championships, the
official start of WRGB two years on the run, as well as a special stage on the Great Orme.
Llandudno 10, the Olympic Torch Relay running through the County, Adain Avion, and the
first major music event within Eirias Stadium Access All Eirias. As well as the Wales Seniors
Golf Open, The Snowman Triathlon, Choral Festival, Cerdd Dant, The Eirias’ – a long
distance triathlon time and of course not forgetting the high profile Rugby events such as the
IRB Series and Under 20’s which colleagues in CDS have secured and run very
successfully.
All these fantastic events have increased the profile of the area at a regional, national and
international level. The economic impact analysis that has been done on key events revealed
that for every £1 invested, there is a return of £12.47 in the local economy.
2013 has seen two new events:
World Trail Championship which has been brought to Conwy County because of the
success of the CMUD event. The event attracted competitors from 20 countries.
Tour of Britain passed through North Wales in September for the first time. Both these
events will made use of the rural landscape which is very positive as we have been trying to
attract events that can utilise not just the “honey pots” such as Llandudno and Conwy but
other key areas of the County. We also hosted Wales Rally GB Start and Finish of this
prestigious World Championship in the County. They also did a stage on the Great Orme
and in Gwydir Forest. Again utilising Gwydir is another real positive for the rural economy of
Conwy.
CCBC continues to have excellent working relationships with a number of key event partners
and also has a very good reputation of being a County that will support event organisers to
maximise the potential on major events. This was formally recognised in 2013 when Conwy
County Borough Council was won the National Outdoor Events Association (NOEA) Event
Organiser of the Year. We were also awarded jointly with Orchard the promoter for Access
all Eirias Production Partnership of the Year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2014, 05:20:17 pm
Cambrian Rally drops Great Orme from route for first time

FOR the first time in several years the iconic high speed stage around Llandudno's Marine Drive will be omitted from the Cambrian Rally which starts and finishes in the resort on October 18.
The decision not to include the stage in this year's route has been taken by organisers North Wales Car Club because of a problem with securing parking for spectators' vehicles.
Clerk of the course Alyn Edwards said: “The use has been in doubt for several months due the lack of suitable spectator parking facilities on the Orme.
"The land used previously for parking is now for sale and not available.
"As organisers we are very much aware of the support that events using the Great Orme have from local residents and do not wish to create any public relations related issues by running the stage without suitable spectator parking facilities.
"Despite a lot of hard work and effort the organisers have failed to locate a suitable location to park spectators that will satisfy the needs of the event and local residents.
"Without adequate parking facilities spectators may walk over private land in order to reach a suitable viewing location causing annoyance to landowners."
The event will still be able to offer nearly 45 miles of stages with eight forest stages in Conwy county. Further information can be found at www.cambrianrally.co.uk (http://www.cambrianrally.co.uk)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 23, 2014, 06:04:39 pm
There IS a God!   :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2014, 06:38:33 pm
There IS a God!   :)

I don't understand, surely this is a loss to Llandudno?      ??? ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 23, 2014, 06:43:57 pm
There IS a God!   :)

I don't understand, surely this is a loss to Llandudno?      ??? ???

On the contralry, surely the Organisers have given the very best reason(s)?   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2014, 06:49:06 pm
Sorry must be me, I have not seen it before, but I thought it would be considered a loss...explain more please. :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 23, 2014, 06:54:01 pm
Sorry must be me, I have not seen it before, but I thought it would be considered a loss...explain more please. :roll:

WHY?  Just re-read the Statement, it's all there!  Or go to the link on the last line.   WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2014, 09:07:45 pm
Mrs S. just returned from her exercise class and came across an accident, man knocked off his bike lying in the road shaking and in pain, with  3 or 4 people standing around doing nothing, she took her coat off, made him comfortable, held his head in position and asked if they had called the services, she was told by one guy, he was on hold, after a while she asked who he had called, he said the police, she said what number, he said.... on 101.!!
I would have thought in this day and age people would know better,  &shake&    &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 23, 2014, 09:24:32 pm
The stratergey is to use Colwyn it been like this for the last 6 years,pour all money into Colwyn and they don;t hide it,Cll Rees is the main man behind this.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 24, 2014, 11:21:44 am
Having just had all the excellent TV coverage of the Great Orme on the Tour of Britain it's seems absolutely ridiculous not to find a way of including it in the Cambrian Rally.
Which bit of parking land is up for sale anyway and whose private property gets walked across ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 24, 2014, 11:35:59 am
Having just had all the excellent TV coverage of the Great Orme on the Tour of Britain it's seems absolutely ridiculous not to find a way of including it in the Cambrian Rally.
Which bit of parking land is up for sale anyway and whose private property gets walked across ?

Thank you, I thought it was just me.    $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on September 24, 2014, 08:58:58 pm
The stratergey is to use Colwyn it been like this for the last 6 years,pour all money into Colwyn and they don;t hide it,Cll Rees is the main man behind this.

I don't know if Graham Gas is the main man behind this but if he is fair play to him.  It's about time someone with a bit of clout realised that there's a lot more to Conwy County than Llandudno  $good$.

Hopefully now that Colwyn Bay has Porth Eirias he can look at spreading the largesse further still.  Places like Towyn, Abergele, Penmaenmawr, Llanfairfechan, Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed must all be well overdue a share of any investment in the future.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 24, 2014, 09:27:07 pm
The stratergey is to use Colwyn it been like this for the last 6 years,pour all money into Colwyn and they don;t hide it,Cll Rees is the main man behind this.

I don't know if Graham Gas is the main man behind this but if he is fair play to him.  It's about time someone with a bit of clout realised that there's a lot more to Conwy County than Llandudno  $good$.

Hopefully now that Colwyn Bay has Porth Eirias he can look at spreading the largesse further still.  Places like Towyn, Abergele, Penmaenmawr, Llanfairfechan, Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed must all be well overdue a share of any investment in the future.

That might be quite right but the Cambrian Rally along Colwyn Bay prom just doesn't tick any boxes. Any suggestions of alternatives with the same drama and spectacle as the Orme because I can't think of any?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on September 25, 2014, 01:46:29 am
When organising the last rally event in Llandudno, things took a turn for the worse when somebody up the Orme took the pi$s over how much they were charging Wales Rally GB for parking, which is why the 'aint keen on coming back.

Some very greedy people about, who have cost Llandudno a lot of money over their own selfishness.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 25, 2014, 10:43:28 am
Fatandy you stick up for the Bay just as i will stick up for Llandudno but don;t say the bay gets nowt,how many times has station rd been done,our pavements never,erias park has had massive money and the skip has cost us all a fortune.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on September 25, 2014, 07:16:33 pm
Fatandy you stick up for the Bay just as i will stick up for Llandudno but don;t say the bay gets nowt,how many times has station rd been done,our pavements never,erias park has had massive money and the skip has cost us all a fortune.

I don't stick up for the Bay. Much like Councillor Gas I don't live there, never have, and have no vested interest in the place. I do currently work there but in the past I've also worked in Llandudno for longer than I've worked in Colwyn Bay.  As a CCBC council tax payer I just want to see CCBC sharing out the investment across the whole of county and not just pumping everything into one or two towns.  Llandudno has had plenty in recent years - £330,000 spent on the pier landing stage (rumours now that it will be used to land passengers off American cruise liners from next year - kerching), £3.5m on Oriel Mostyn, £5.1m on the railway station, £400,000 on the library, £500,000 on the football ground, etc, etc, etc....... There's also the small matter of £1m+ pa spent propping up the White Elephant on the prom.

How much has been spent on Towyn, Abergele, Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr, Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed in recent years?  I don't know but combined it won't come close to the £10m+ spent in Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 25, 2014, 08:05:20 pm
How much has been spent on Towyn, Abergele, Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr, Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed in recent years?  I don't know but combined it won't come close to the £10m+ spent in Llandudno.
...and that £10m doesn't come close to the amounts spent in Colwyn Bay over the past few years.

In fact, Colwyn Bay received £12m in just ONE grant earlier this year!!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/colwyn-bay-12-million-regeneration-6680243 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/colwyn-bay-12-million-regeneration-6680243)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 25, 2014, 08:17:00 pm
The white elephant could be run better but they refuse to let buissness people run it,the pier was windfarm money and has not had a ship dock yet,the station is 10 years late,the bay has had two makeovers in that time,the fact is CCBC are doing everything in Erias and i mean everything and don;t forget CCBC run and lose money every year on Colwyn prom day,im not sure if they put anything on in Llandudno on their own.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on September 25, 2014, 10:16:46 pm
Fatandy you stick up for the Bay just as i will stick up for Llandudno but don;t say the bay gets nowt,how many times has station rd been done,our pavements never,erias park has had massive money and the skip has cost us all a fortune.

I don't stick up for the Bay. Much like Councillor Gas I don't live there, never have, and have no vested interest in the place. I do currently work there but in the past I've also worked in Llandudno for longer than I've worked in Colwyn Bay.  As a CCBC council tax payer I just want to see CCBC sharing out the investment across the whole of county and not just pumping everything into one or two towns.  Llandudno has had plenty in recent years - £330,000 spent on the pier landing stage (rumours now that it will be used to land passengers off American cruise liners from next year - kerching), £3.5m on Oriel Mostyn, £5.1m on the railway station, £400,000 on the library, £500,000 on the football ground, etc, etc, etc....... There's also the small matter of £1m+ pa spent propping up the White Elephant on the prom.

How much has been spent on Towyn, Abergele, Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr, Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed in recent years?  I don't know but combined it won't come close to the £10m+ spent in Llandudno.

Of all those monies quoted, how much of that was CCBC tax payers money?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 25, 2014, 11:22:34 pm
Wrex --- is that correct that the Council loose money on the Prom day every year? How on earth do they manage that? Its obvious that thousands of pounds are spent with the various traders who, presumably, are charged likewise for rentals, and as far as I know all the expenses are a bit of insurance, a rubbish collector or two and a few traffic barriers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on September 26, 2014, 08:52:32 am
How much has been spent on Towyn, Abergele, Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr, Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed in recent years?  I don't know but combined it won't come close to the £10m+ spent in Llandudno.
...and that £10m doesn't come close to the amounts spent in Colwyn Bay over the past few years.

In fact, Colwyn Bay received £12m in just ONE grant earlier this year!!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/colwyn-bay-12-million-regeneration-6680243 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/colwyn-bay-12-million-regeneration-6680243)

Isn't that a good thing?  This forum is called the "Three Towns Forum" so surely it's members should be celebrating any positive news in any of the three towns it supposedly represents and not acting like spoilt primary school kids threatening to take their footballs home because they think their mates have been given something they haven't.  Besides Colwyn Bay was awarded the regeneration grant because it's an S H one dot T hole that's desperately in need of renovation.  If you're really that jealous perhaps you could arrange for large sections of Llandudno to be turned in slums and then close down half the shops in the town centre and allow them to rot for five years.  Then maybe Llandudno will be entitled to a regeneration grant of it's own.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on September 26, 2014, 08:57:03 am
Of all those monies quoted, how much of that was CCBC tax payers money?

What usually happens is that the council will apply for a grant so usually very little of the cost comes from tax payers money, e.g. the cost of the sea defence work in Colwyn Bay is largely paid for by the Welsh Assembly and ERDF funding.  Ultimately though most of it comes from income tax payers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on September 26, 2014, 09:18:16 am
The white elephant could be run better but they refuse to let buissness people run it,the pier was windfarm money and has not had a ship dock yet,the station is 10 years late,the bay has had two makeovers in that time,the fact is CCBC are doing everything in Erias and i mean everything and don;t forget CCBC run and lose money every year on Colwyn prom day,im not sure if they put anything on in Llandudno on their own.

The White Elephant will never be profitable.  Llandudno lacks the facilities to attract big conferences so having a big conference centre in the town is pointless (I posted something about this the other day but my post "disappeared").  The windfarm money came from a "community funding" scheme - which other communities have received any share from it?  Llandudno is the only station I'm aware of anywhere close to here so late or not at least it's happened.  I'm not sure that the Bay has had two "makeovers" but there were some street works which were funded by the European Convergence Fund and not by Conwy CBC.  One of the themes of the bid for the Convergence Funding was "supporting the integrated regeneration of the most deprived towns and villages by physical improvements to the urban fabric and the wider natural and built heritage." Do you consider Llandudno to be on of "the most deprived towns in Wales".  Personally I'd be celebrating not being eligible for this type of funding.  The work at Eirias (it's got two "i"s) has been lead and significately funded by the Welsh Rugby Union.  They decided in their infinite wisdom to create a team in North Wales and needed a stadium to base it in.  It just happened Eirias had a stadium already built with sufficient land around it to put in the training centre and some car parking.  Where exactly in Llandudno is there an equivalent stadium with surrounding land that could have been put forward by CCBC?  Given that the WRU could have decided to locate their team in somewhere like Wrexham, Connah's Quay or Caernarfon having the team in Colwyn Bay is good news for residents of Llandudno who might support the team and not fancy having to make a ninety mile round trip to watch home games.  And I'm sure a lot of people who went to watch Tom Jones in the summer were happier travelling to Colwyn Bay than to somewhere like Wrexham.  You'll have to submit your data about the Prom Day before I can consider this point as I've never seen the set of financial accounts you must be referring to but surely the point of these events is to attract visitors who will spend money in local shops, cafes, hotels, etc and not for the council to make a profit.  They also don't put it on "one their own".  Colwyn Bay Town Council are also involved and last year View Creative, Halliwell Jones and Brening Construction all provided sponsorship.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on September 26, 2014, 10:18:38 am
Of all those monies quoted, how much of that was CCBC tax payers money?

What usually happens is that the council will apply for a grant so usually very little of the cost comes from tax payers money, e.g. the cost of the sea defence work in Colwyn Bay is largely paid for by the Welsh Assembly and ERDF funding.  Ultimately though most of it comes from income tax payers.

That's the point I'm making. As the a fore mentioned projects have cost CCBC tax payers, very little in financial terms, don't quite see why they should be considered an issue or brought into question?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 26, 2014, 10:27:46 am
How much has been spent on Towyn, Abergele, Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr, Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed in recent years?  I don't know but combined it won't come close to the £10m+ spent in Llandudno.
...and that £10m doesn't come close to the amounts spent in Colwyn Bay over the past few years.

In fact, Colwyn Bay received £12m in just ONE grant earlier this year!!
Some general info from the BID thread, when I was researching funding.
"Ingrid Lewis, Bay of Colwyn Town Manager. More than £50 million is already helping to reinvent the town by providing in-demand sports, arts and events facilities, modernising its famous promenade and improving the public realm..............A major project to restore our historic and iconic pier is also underway.? ? ? ?
But the best is yet to come. Regeneration is already transforming Colwyn Bay but we are keen to invite investors and developers to be a part of our future growth. Investment opportunities exist." (not sure of this info's timeline)

Coastal Communities Fund   (New funding opportunities)
The Coastal Communities Fund (CCF) will encourage the economic development of UK coastal communities by giving them funding to create sustainable economic growth and jobs.
http://wales.gov.uk/topics/housing-and-regeneration/regeneration/coastal-communities-fund/?lang=en (http://wales.gov.uk/topics/housing-and-regeneration/regeneration/coastal-communities-fund/?lang=en)
Local authorities will share more than £100m for regeneration schemes from 2014 to 2017.
http://wales.gov.uk/topics/housing-and-regeneration/regeneration/vibrant-and-viable-places/?lang=en (http://wales.gov.uk/topics/housing-and-regeneration/regeneration/vibrant-and-viable-places/?lang=en)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 26, 2014, 10:56:28 am
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(I posted something about this the other day but my post "disappeared").

Not quite sure why you're using inverted commas, FA, but there are only two people in here who can delete posts and either of us would have told you about it. If one of us accidentally deletes something we always come clean about it, but SMF software does occasionally lose the odd post.  It's happened to me, as well, but I've never been able to trace precisely why.  It's thought that it might have something to do with users pressing 'post' coincidental with a server update.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 26, 2014, 11:55:28 am
Ref.FA,
"The Three Towns Forum" so surely it's members should be celebrating any positive news in any of the three towns"

I think we can forget that, what is good for one, is good for the area as a whole, one example I noticed recently the low number of hotels serving Colwyn Bay, if your looking for accommodation, Tripadvisor etc. within a dozen or so choices, a few in Rhos, you get the Llandudno hotel list, so I assume Llandudno gains from events at "Eirias" etc.
All improvements to the "local region" can only be positive.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 26, 2014, 12:34:07 pm
How much has been spent on Towyn, Abergele, Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr, Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed in recent years?  I don't know but combined it won't come close to the £10m+ spent in Llandudno.
...and that £10m doesn't come close to the amounts spent in Colwyn Bay over the past few years.

In fact, Colwyn Bay received £12m in just ONE grant earlier this year!!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/colwyn-bay-12-million-regeneration-6680243 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/colwyn-bay-12-million-regeneration-6680243)

Isn't that a good thing?  This forum is called the "Three Towns Forum" so surely it's members should be celebrating any positive news in any of the three towns it supposedly represents and not acting like spoilt primary school kids threatening to take their footballs home because they think their mates have been given something they haven't.  Besides Colwyn Bay was awarded the regeneration grant because it's an S H one dot T hole that's desperately in need of renovation.  If you're really that jealous perhaps you could arrange for large sections of Llandudno to be turned in slums and then close down half the shops in the town centre and allow them to rot for five years.  Then maybe Llandudno will be entitled to a regeneration grant of it's own.

Most sensible thing to be posted on this forum in a long while  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 26, 2014, 03:43:48 pm
Fatandy i have never looked at the Colwyn posts and never will,i only have one interest and thats Llandudno,i would not dream of intefering in Colwyns issues,im not jeoulous of anything Colwyn has,my wife is from Colwyn Bay .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 26, 2014, 05:37:46 pm
Why never look at the Colwyn posts Wrex?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 26, 2014, 06:14:56 pm
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Most sensible thing to be posted on this forum in a long while  $good$

Really?

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Colwyn Bay was awarded the regeneration grant because it's an S H one dot T hole that's desperately in need of renovation.

Describing one of the three towns - or any local community, really - in those terms hardly seems sensible to me.

I'd agree CB is in need of investment and has a disproportionately high number of sub-lets, but to describe the town in the words used is unacceptable.

FA: please argue with restraint and facts rather than emotively charged insults. If you disagree with something someone says, debate them on facts and analysis, not invective.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 26, 2014, 07:05:01 pm
Why never,just because i have no interest ,it may make me sound sad but i was born in Llandudno and thats where i have all my interest,sorry but I visit Colwyn,Conwy,Bangor ,Vancouver,Baku,New York but i always like to come home,and they say that is where the heart is.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 26, 2014, 08:19:14 pm
IT just seems a shame to never read any posts about a town that is just next door, living in Rhos on Sea I visit Llandudno and Colwyn Bay often, I like them both, everywhere has good and bad parts. To be fair though I never read the football posts!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 26, 2014, 09:39:59 pm
For the same reason..... I never read the CARS thread!

Ian, funnily enough, may I use the term to describe the city I originally hail from?

You see Bradford is nice place to come from...... but a SH#T hole to go back to!    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 27, 2014, 07:21:17 am
I suppose its only interesting if you live or work there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 27, 2014, 08:24:55 am
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Ian, funnily enough, may I use the term to describe the city I originally hail from?

As Bradford is a little outside the Three Towns remit, then any remarks you make about it are between you and any ex-pat Bradfordians that might be living locally.  Even so, I imagine there are some delightful areas of Bradford and I would think people living there and unable to move for one reason or another might feel a sense of justifiable annoyance at their home town being labelled as such. But, never having been there, I have no idea what it's like.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 27, 2014, 08:36:37 am
As I come from not far from where Fester is talking about, I know exactly what he means. Many of the Yorkshire towns have become riddled with crime ( as have alot more places), but because there is a greater density of people there than in Llandudno the problem accelerates and the towns take on a worse appearance.
I recently had to go up there to visit our daughter who has been very ill and thus had to get from the station to her house alone ( I usually am met at the train) I can assure you that it wasn't a very nice experience dealing with a foreign taxi driver who persisted that he was going in the right direction, when I knew that he wasn't. I eventually got him to turn round and head back the correct way. -- I also refused to pay the extra that he added on for his little sightseeing trip around one of the notorious areas of the town.
I might look as though I can be fleeced, but no way, I probably drove a meals on wheels van in that area before he was born ! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 27, 2014, 09:05:07 am
 _))* _))* _))*

Wonderful!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 27, 2014, 12:16:53 pm
 $good$ $good$ $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 28, 2014, 04:24:23 pm
I was looking at the new Sailing Club Slipway the other day, and it is several feet lower than the areas of shingle that surround it on both sides. It isn't hard to see that the first storm of the Winter will bury it completely under tons of shingle and have to be removed at regular intervals thereafter, at considerable expense to the taxpayer.  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 28, 2014, 05:47:43 pm
No DaveR ,Yorkie has offered to brush it once a week.lol
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 28, 2014, 07:16:24 pm
No DaveR ,Yorkie has offered to brush it once a week.lol

With your head!    _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cat Stevens on September 28, 2014, 07:39:46 pm
Whenever riding a taxi in a strange town I sit in the back and switch on google maps . Where I can clearly see whether they are driving directly or not. Interesting though I could be reading the news. The driver would not know the differance
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 28, 2014, 08:58:17 pm
I was looking at the new Sailing Club Slipway the other day, and it is several feet lower than the areas of shingle that surround it on both sides. It isn't hard to see that the first storm of the Winter will bury it completely under tons of shingle and have to be removed at regular intervals thereafter, at considerable expense to the taxpayer.  :roll:

My thoughts exactly when walking past the other day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 28, 2014, 09:05:25 pm
  Nemesis---Did you manage to get the fare reduced? If so, very well done you. By accepting the reduced  fare the driver was admitting that he either didn't know where he was going or, alternatively, he did know but was doing it on purpose. You can excuse the first option but never, ever the second
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 29, 2014, 07:19:49 am
I was looking at the new Sailing Club Slipway the other day, and it is several feet lower than the areas of shingle that surround it on both sides. It isn't hard to see that the first storm of the Winter will bury it completely under tons of shingle and have to be removed at regular intervals thereafter, at considerable expense to the taxpayer.  :roll:

My thoughts exactly when walking past the other day.

The Council obtain revenue from the Sailing Club and also from launching fees, so maybe this income will be ring fenced for maintenance.  Or maybe the Sailing Club will keep it clean.
 :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 29, 2014, 10:25:33 am
  Nemesis---Did you manage to get the fare reduced? If so, very well done you. By accepting the reduced  fare the driver was admitting that he either didn't know where he was going or, alternatively, he did know but was doing it on purpose. You can excuse the first option but never, ever the second
Yes  I did. I noticed that as I passed the bottom of our daughter's road the meter was just short of £5.00. After we had had a tour of one of the local estates it had reached £6.50, so I said I'll pay you for the journey, not the detour. He pretended not to understand, but I stared him in the eye and gave him a fiver. He understood that OK. I nearly told him to get his cab cleaned out as well, as it stunk , but thought I might be pushing it a bit far. :o I think he thought he had a white haired older ( I won't say old !) lady on his hands, but he met his match.  :twoface: $angry$ Needless to say I didn't use his firm for the return journey !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 29, 2014, 05:26:47 pm
I noticed and commented on the, Madoc St.,  Augusta apartment renovation, a few weeks ago, just passed it again, close up, not the best work I have seen, they spent a lot of time and money on the roof, but now painting the front, over very poor rendering ?,   It is an improvement, but not sure now whether flats or offices.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 30, 2014, 09:30:51 am
I noticed and commented on the, Madoc St.,  Augusta apartment renovation, a few weeks ago, just passed it again, close up, not the best work I have seen, they spent a lot of time and money on the roof, but now painting the front, over very poor rendering ?,   It is an improvement, but not sure now whether flats or offices.
A 'stunning refurbishment' apparently?
http://www.wardpropertyinvestments.co.uk/augusta-apartments-llandudno/ (http://www.wardpropertyinvestments.co.uk/augusta-apartments-llandudno/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 30, 2014, 09:31:26 am
The Police helicopter was active over the Great Orme (area of the Lighthouse) this morning, just before 8pm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 30, 2014, 10:17:57 am
I noticed and commented on the, Madoc St.,  Augusta apartment renovation, a few weeks ago, just passed it again, close up, not the best work I have seen, they spent a lot of time and money on the roof, but now painting the front, over very poor rendering ?,   It is an improvement, but not sure now whether flats or offices.
A 'stunning refurbishment' apparently?
http://www.wardpropertyinvestments.co.uk/augusta-apartments-llandudno/ (http://www.wardpropertyinvestments.co.uk/augusta-apartments-llandudno/)

The frontage (rendering) is not going to install confidence in any potential buyers, in fact this morning they are working to replace a section that gave way, after being painted.
I suspect the frontage will deteriorate very quickly, it's a shame, the initial impression I got was of a high quality re development, an asset to the area.
It is still better than being left as it was, will have to wait, and hope for the best.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 30, 2014, 11:00:15 am
The Police helicopter was active over the Great Orme (area of the Lighthouse) this morning, just before 8pm.

Marine Drive is closed. Heard that a body has been found.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 30, 2014, 12:26:40 pm
The Police helicopter was active over the Great Orme (area of the Lighthouse) this morning, just before 8pm.

Marine Drive is closed. Heard that a body has been found.
DP blog today
BODY FOUND: The body of a man was found on Marine Drive in Llandudno in the early hours of this morning.
North Wales Police and other emergency services attended at about 5am where a man in his 20s was pronounced dead at the scene.
The man has yet to be formally identified, but police say they are not treating his death as suspicious.
The matter will be referred to HM Coroner.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 30, 2014, 02:46:17 pm
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138826/body-of-man-in-20-s-found-on-great-orme.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/138826/body-of-man-in-20-s-found-on-great-orme.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on September 30, 2014, 04:31:26 pm
We went round Marine Drive just after it had reopened this afternoon, and it would appear that the incident happened close to Pen Trwyn, as the road had been sluiced probably to remove any untoward signs of the happening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 30, 2014, 06:48:10 pm
More plus photos.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/body-found-great-orme-llandudno-7856524#rlabs=3 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/body-found-great-orme-llandudno-7856524#rlabs=3)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2014, 05:57:00 pm
Llandudno mayor calls for formal 'twinning' with Liverpool

Cultural and tourism links would benefit both says Mayor Malcolm Bullock, a former Liverpool city councillor.
“We’ve got such strong ties with the area. You can hardly walk down the prom without bumping into a Scouser.”

“We tried once before but I don’t think we got a reply from the then mayor.

Do you think twinning Llandudno with Liverpool would be a good idea?   you can vote on the link..
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-mayor-calls-formal-twinning-7872740 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-mayor-calls-formal-twinning-7872740)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 02, 2014, 06:28:19 pm
Can't we be twinned with Chester instead?  ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 02, 2014, 07:38:39 pm
Sorry DaveR,as a Wrexham supporter this idea is a no no.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on October 02, 2014, 11:02:55 pm
are you a Wrexham lad Wrex.?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2014, 01:06:30 am
Town Twinning is one of those 1970's anachronisms that serves only to cost tax payers lots of money in new signage, and use up all the Council's expenses budget on champagne and prawn sandwiches for those who attend the endless meetings about the 'project'

I would dearly love to see some tangible figures on any revenue actually created by these schemes.

I also wonder, if we are twinned with Liverpool, will the many thousands of Manchester visitors no longer wish to come?
It's a serious question.

The Town Council voted UNANIMOUSLY to pursue the matter,  well that just shows how 'out of touch' they are,  as the current poll was showing 86% NOT in favour when I last checked!   &shake& &shake& &shake&

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 03, 2014, 08:14:16 am
I tend to agree. Not sure what the area in general would gain that it doesn't already have.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 03, 2014, 04:53:25 pm
Liverpool's Green party leader welcomes Llandudno twinning calls

We ran an online poll asking people if they thought twinning with Llandudno was a good idea. 92% said no, while only 8% said yes

"Roy Kyffin simply said: “Might as well twin with Rhyl! Crazy!”  ( more comments on link)

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/liverpools-green-party-leader-welcomes-7878593 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/liverpools-green-party-leader-welcomes-7878593)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on October 03, 2014, 05:15:30 pm
To be fair, a lot of the people they quote seem to be Welsh nationalists, who would hate any link between Wales and England. Also polls like this where people reading choose to vote are renowned for being highly biased and highly inaccurate. If they did a poll of Llandudno people, I doubt it would be that extreme. I happen to like the idea. Any way that we can get some of the hundreds of thousands of foreign visitors who visit Liverpool down to Llandudno should be welcomed!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on October 03, 2014, 08:04:41 pm
I thought we were already twinned with Wormhout?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 03, 2014, 11:15:43 pm
I thought we were already twinned with Wormhout?

Llandudno is indeed twinned with Wormhout, and that is appropriate .... and sufficient.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 04, 2014, 09:00:48 am
Have a sneak peek inside the 1920s property which is on the market for £1.5m and comes with its own private jetty and beach access
A house which boasts spectacular panoramic views across the Conwy Estuary has gone on the market for a cool £1.5m.

Located on the lower slopes of the Great Orme in Llandudno, it offers views stretching as far as Anglesey and Puffin Island.

As well as beautiful extensive gardens, the 1920s art deco marine residence on Llys Helig Drive even has its own private jetty and access to the beach.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/property-insider-great-orme-house-7877827 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/property-insider-great-orme-house-7877827)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 05, 2014, 09:42:21 am
We should re-name town ,snail town to go with the progress of anything that happens here like the Tudno Castle for one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 06, 2014, 09:23:58 pm
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BODY FOUND: The body of a man was found on Marine Drive in Llandudno in the early hours of this morning.
North Wales Police and other emergency services attended at about 5am where a man in his 20s was pronounced dead at the scene.
The man has yet to be formally identified, but police say they are not treating his death as suspicious.
The matter will be referred to HM Coroner.
Martin Williams: Llandudno man who died on Great Orme suffered major head injuries

The body of bar worker Martin Haynes Williams, 23, of Lloyd Street, Llandudno, was found by a local man on Marine Drive early in the morning of September 30.
Mr Williams, who worked at Venue Cymru, was certified dead at the scene.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/martin-williams-llandudno-man-who-7891934 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/martin-williams-llandudno-man-who-7891934)
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Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2014, 05:29:43 pm
Llandudno flat fire sparked by a cigarette

A cigarette sparked a fire at a flat above a hairdressers in Llandudno.
Firefighters were called to the first floor property above the Male Box hairdressers on Madoc Street at about 10.20am this morning.
The property was evacuated and paramedics were called but no-one was hurt.

Three fire engines attended the scene where they used two sets of a breathing apparatus and a hose reel jet to extinguish the blaze, which was out by 10.45am.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-flat-fire-sparked-cigarette-7895459 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-flat-fire-sparked-cigarette-7895459)
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Post by: DaveR on October 08, 2014, 08:53:03 am
I was pleased to see yesterday that work has been carried out recently on some of the pavements along Mostyn Street to replace broken paving stones.  $good$
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Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2014, 11:44:00 am
Llandudno Christmas charity tree split in two by wind and rain

A TREE which serves as a Christmas memorial to loved ones who have died in Llandudno has been cut down after it split in two.

The Tree of Lights in North Western Gardens, which helps raise funds for St David’s Hospice through its annual festive commemoration, suddenly broke in half on Monday after being battered by wind and rain at the weekend.

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139151/llandudno-christmas-charity-tree-split-in-two-by-wind-and-rain.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139151/llandudno-christmas-charity-tree-split-in-two-by-wind-and-rain.aspx)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 08, 2014, 11:02:07 pm
A big storm tonight, thunder and lightning all evening! Hope everyone is ok!
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Post by: Fester on October 08, 2014, 11:08:34 pm
A big storm tonight, thunder and lightning all evening! Hope everyone is ok!

Pretty scary up here on The Orme,  Mrs F keeps thinking the lightning is hitting very close to us!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 10, 2014, 03:03:35 pm
I was looking at the new Sailing Club Slipway the other day, and it is several feet lower than the areas of shingle that surround it on both sides. It isn't hard to see that the first storm of the Winter will bury it completely under tons of shingle and have to be removed at regular intervals thereafter, at considerable expense to the taxpayer.  :roll:
I see that the bottom half of the Slipway is already buried under shingle:
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Post by: Nemesis on October 12, 2014, 08:50:22 am
Anyone missing a black VW this morning?  One left wrecked in Abbey Road !!
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Post by: wrex on October 12, 2014, 03:34:16 pm
What is the Llandudno news,is there any,TKMaxx,Tudno Castle,Starbucks,how about the Parade.Royal hotel has too be good prospect,how far behind is the Clarence,there has to be something going on behind closed doors that will inject a bit of interest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andrea1976 on October 12, 2014, 05:17:42 pm
I have been intouch with travelodge as we were wanting to book for over xmas,they emailed me back saying they are hoping to be open by the 3rd of december !.But when you try to book online it says dates not available!! ??? Really hoping they will be fingers crossed !lol  ;D
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Post by: Fester on October 12, 2014, 08:12:25 pm
I have been intouch with travelodge as we were wanting to book for over xmas,they emailed me back saying they are hoping to be open by the 3rd of december !.But when you try to book online it says dates not available!! ??? Really hoping they will be fingers crossed !lol  ;D

Andrea, I've been saying for ages that March 2015 is more likely, for The Clarence to reopen, but no one seems to want to take my bet.   ?{}?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andrea1976 on October 12, 2014, 08:34:51 pm
I think you could be right fester!! We are coming down for half term and then when the rally is on for the week too  :) need my llandudno fix  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 12, 2014, 08:53:02 pm
I think you could be right fester!! We are coming down for half term and then when the rally is on for the week too  :) need my llandudno fix  ;)

Good girl!   Get your booking for the Premier Inn,  if you know what's good for you!   :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 13, 2014, 08:54:55 am
I have been intouch with travelodge as we were wanting to book for over xmas,they emailed me back saying they are hoping to be open by the 3rd of december !.But when you try to book online it says dates not available!! ??? Really hoping they will be fingers crossed !lol  ;D

Andrea, I've been saying for ages that March 2015 is more likely, for The Clarence to reopen, but no one seems to want to take my bet.   ?{}?

I'll join you there Fester. It will have to be some kind of miracle if it is finished by December. My OH chats to some of the workforce and they are still having problems with water rising up. What did I say yonks ago? Too many mines in that area. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 13, 2014, 09:09:46 am
Does the water seem to be under pressure?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 13, 2014, 10:47:17 am
As far as I can gather no, it is more of a seepage.
Living under the lee of the Orme, we have drainage gulleys in place which gather the water from the Orme which still comes, even in dry weather and take it away from the house. There is also a well in the back ( covered over) which after heavy rain can be heard running and draining away. GOES website has maps which show many, many old mine shafts and adits which can be and often are full of water. It has to drain somewhere and will find the lowest available level.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 13, 2014, 11:30:49 am
. It has to drain somewhere and will find the lowest available level.

Why does The Town House pub spring to mind?   :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 13, 2014, 11:54:36 am
Too scared to say the King's Arms weren't you Fester  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 21, 2014, 09:12:32 am
Rough seas in Llandudno this morning, but not as bad as forecast:
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Post by: SteveH on October 22, 2014, 11:40:53 am
Train passengers spared disruption as planned strike called off
NORTH Wales train passengers have been saved from disruption after rail workers called off their strike.
The RMT Union’s planned 48 hour strike on the North Wales Coast and Conwy Valley lines on Thursday and Friday has been called off pending “further talks” to discuss a dispute over sickness absences with Arriva Trains Wales.
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139709/train-passengers-spared-disruption-as-planned-strike-called-off.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139709/train-passengers-spared-disruption-as-planned-strike-called-off.aspx)
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Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2014, 06:53:32 pm
Tremendous sunset in Llandudno this evening:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 22, 2014, 08:40:35 pm
Stunning! I took this with the iPad from home in Rhos on Sea
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Post by: snowcap on October 22, 2014, 10:20:07 pm
two great photos lads
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Post by: SteveH on October 23, 2014, 01:03:26 pm
Alice in Wonderland tourism app launched in Llandudno ...........AGAIN

The original launch of the app in August was delayed after key figures for tourists to follow were altered.

Company director Barry Mortlock said: "I've lived in Llandudno for 36 years now, and it worried me that the town wasn't doing enough in recent years to celebrate its links with the real life Alice.

"The app is now ready for next year's important anniversary.

"It has the potential to attract more visitors from overseas, where there's a huge interest in the Alice in Wonderland stories."

Graham Rees, Conwy council's cabinet member for tourism, said: "This will be a huge asset to Llandudno and
really enhance what we can offer to visitors."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-29732793 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-29732793)


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 23, 2014, 04:09:43 pm
Company director Barry Mortlock said: "I've lived in Llandudno for 36 years now, and it worried me that the town wasn't doing enough in recent years to celebrate its links with the real life Alice.
Yes, I've been losing sleep over that, too.  :laugh:

Could one ask why, when a massive grant has been given to develop this Trail, that users have to buy the App? Who receives all the proceeds?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 23, 2014, 04:14:39 pm
I was looking at the new Sailing Club Slipway the other day, and it is several feet lower than the areas of shingle that surround it on both sides. It isn't hard to see that the first storm of the Winter will bury it completely under tons of shingle and have to be removed at regular intervals thereafter, at considerable expense to the taxpayer.  :roll:
I see this issue is now on the front page of the Weekly News, with the Sailing Club complaining (rightly) that the new Slipway is already getting blocked with shingle. Perhaps the designers should have realised that there was a reason that the old slipway was carried high over the shingle before dropping down to sea level. As it stands, this means that the slipway will require regular shingle removal indefinitely to make it fit for use.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 23, 2014, 04:19:22 pm
Company director Barry Mortlock said: "I've lived in Llandudno for 36 years now, and it worried me that the town wasn't doing enough in recent years to celebrate its links with the real life Alice.
Yes, I've been losing sleep over that, too.  :laugh:

Could one ask why, when a massive grant has been given to develop this Trail, that users have to buy the App? Who receives all the proceeds?

Where does it say it isn't free?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 23, 2014, 04:29:15 pm
Company director Barry Mortlock said: "I've lived in Llandudno for 36 years now, and it worried me that the town wasn't doing enough in recent years to celebrate its links with the real life Alice.
Yes, I've been losing sleep over that, too.  :laugh:
Could one ask why, when a massive grant has been given to develop this Trail, that users have to buy the App? Who receives all the proceeds?
Where does it say it isn't free?

I thought it was free, a tourist attraction, with council support.?    &shake&
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Post by: Jack on October 23, 2014, 05:10:34 pm

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Where does it say it isn't free?
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Weekly News says it is £1-99 until end of year then £2-99 after that.
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Post by: born2run on October 24, 2014, 09:06:46 am


Where does it say it isn't free?
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Weekly News says it is £1-99 until end of year then £2-99 after that.
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Bloody rip off - if they sell more than 10 I'll be suprised
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on October 24, 2014, 10:29:21 am
The graphics are dreadful but I have no doubt it will sell
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 24, 2014, 10:40:30 am
To who? The pensioners who come here don't have Iphones and locals certainly aren't going to buy it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 24, 2014, 10:50:04 am
Sorry to butt in.......
Just caught a long distance view of what looked like a Spitfire giving a short display over North Shore?
Someone mentioned that a Anthony Hodgson sometimes flies over,?
Or am I missing something.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 24, 2014, 10:51:05 am
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To who? The pensioners who come here don't have Iphones

Really? Many I meet certainly do, and iPads.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on October 24, 2014, 10:59:20 am
To who? The pensioners who come here don't have Iphones and locals certainly aren't going to buy it.


Both of my parents have iPhones and my dad also has an iPad. (My hand-me-downs)
However, I'm not saying they know how to use them!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 24, 2014, 11:44:06 am
Sorry to butt in.......
Just caught a long distance view of what looked like a Spitfire giving a short display over North Shore?
Someone mentioned that a Anthony Hodgson sometimes flies over,?
Or am I missing something.
                 I saw it about 10 o'clock SteveH, as I was walking to town. it was doing all sorts of loops, rolls and various other acrobatics out over the bay. It flew off towards Anglesey after about ten minutes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 24, 2014, 11:50:45 am
Sorry to butt in.......
Just caught a long distance view of what looked like a Spitfire giving a short display over North Shore?
Someone mentioned that a Anthony Hodgson sometimes flies over,?
Or am I missing something.
                 I saw it about 10 o'clock SteveH, as I was walking to town. it was doing all sorts of loops, rolls and various other acrobatics out over the bay. It flew off towards Anglesey after about ten minutes.
$thanx$  Sorry I missed the display, I love watching them especially if it was a Spitfire..
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Post by: born2run on October 24, 2014, 01:48:15 pm
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To who? The pensioners who come here don't have Iphones

Really? Many I meet certainly do, and iPads.

Well SDQ and Ian have put me in my place! Must just be the pensioners in my family that are technophobic then!  ;D
Still don't think anyone will buy it - I suppose we'll have an idea by the number of ratings it gets in the i tunes store
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 24, 2014, 02:01:14 pm
Alice in Wonderland tourism app launched in Llandudno ...........AGAIN

The original launch of the app in August was delayed after key figures for tourists to follow were altered.

Company director Barry Mortlock said: "I've lived in Llandudno for 36 years now, and it worried me that the town wasn't doing enough in recent years to celebrate its links with the real life Alice.

"The app is now ready for next year's important anniversary.

"It has the potential to attract more visitors from overseas, where there's a huge interest in the Alice in Wonderland stories."

Graham Rees, Conwy council's cabinet member for tourism, said: "This will be a huge asset to Llandudno and
really enhance what we can offer to visitors."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-29732793 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-29732793)

I have been grinding my teeth over this ever since the whole thing began. The amount of money could have been spent in a far better way and also where is the rest of the scheme?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 24, 2014, 02:10:59 pm
Didn't,  We the taxpayer buy the councilers I pads last year ,so no wonder freebie graham Rees and the other wasters think it's a good idea ,Iv,e walked them footprints and if the idiots think the pensioners (who are our main visitors ) can walk that route  _))*
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Post by: born2run on October 24, 2014, 02:14:31 pm
Why is it far?
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Post by: SteveH on October 24, 2014, 02:32:32 pm
Why is it far?
I understood naively, that the cost of the app. was about £10,000, I have just found this old post from the 10/3/14 on this thread....

"- Alice Trail Ltd is currently funded from public money that is our money!
Conwy County Borough Council 65K
Visit Wales  80K
Llandudno Town Council  7K
CYFENTER 43K
Alice Trail Ltd are already drawing down salaries from these funds."

So that totals...£195,000   please tell these figures are wrong.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 24, 2014, 02:36:40 pm
Well, a tenuous connection to a kids book costs ££££ you know.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 24, 2014, 02:39:59 pm
Well, a tenuous connection to a kids book costs ££££ you know.
Sure, but use their own money, not public funds, this is a private company?....already drawing salaries!  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 27, 2014, 07:04:47 am
We need some news on here,things have gone so quiet in town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 27, 2014, 11:10:13 am
Well, a tenuous connection to a kids book costs ££££ you know.
Sure, but use their own money, not public funds, this is a private company?....already drawing salaries!  $angry$

Lots of info. stuff now put onto the plinths of the wooden figures.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 27, 2014, 05:23:47 pm
This morning I noticed there was an earth moving machine back on the promenade clearing the new slipway which had started to look more like a skateboard ramp. Wonder how often this will need doing?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on October 27, 2014, 05:38:50 pm
From the CCBC twitter feed:

Beach management works - North Shore Llandudno

Following the recent coastal storm we are planning to carry out beach management works along North Shore, Llandudno to re-profile the beach and remove the sharp ridges that have been formed by the waves. We will also take this opportunity to re-profile the surplus material around the new slipway.

The works will commence on Monday 27th October 2014 and is anticipated to take up to 3 weeks to complete.
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Post by: norman08 on October 27, 2014, 05:56:12 pm
What storm ,did I sleep through it ,so they are saying every time we have a storm they will re-profile   Not bad for a council that has to save something like £ 37 mill next year ,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 27, 2014, 06:21:59 pm
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We will also take this opportunity to re-profile the surplus material around the new slipway.


 _))* _))* _))* _))*

Does that mean 'we'll shift the stones round a bit'? Reminds me, time to re-profile the kitchen, probably by re-allocating sanitisingly-challenged baked-stoneware into the interior of the steam-pipe  and water distribution venue...
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Post by: SteveH on October 27, 2014, 06:26:36 pm
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We will also take this opportunity to re-profile the surplus material around the new slipway.
_))* _))* _))* _))*
Does that mean 'we'll shift the stones round a bit'?
Yes ....and take three weeks to do it.    $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 28, 2014, 10:18:44 am
      I passed the the new Yacht Club slipway earlier this morning and there was a lot of "reprofiling" going on with a bulldozer, a tracked shingle/rubble moving vehicle with a bucket and a "Vehicle Marshall" on site, and also the portacabin is back again. The bulldozer was levelling the shingle/rubble to the north of the slipway and the tracked vehicle was moving the debris from the east side, presumably with a view to levelling the easterly side as well to stop the same thing reoccurring with the next strong wind/spring tide.
      It is hard to see what can be done to prevent the slipway from being buried every time there is a strong North or N/E wind onto the shore besides taking the existing level area at the top out further and raising the complete ramped surface as it is in a very exposed part of the shore unlike the present life-boat slipway which is somewhat sheltered in the lee of the Orme.
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Post by: DaveR on October 28, 2014, 10:45:50 am
  It is hard to see what can be done to prevent the slipway from being buried every time there is a strong North or N/E wind onto the shore besides taking the existing level area at the top out further and raising the complete ramped surface as it is in a very exposed part of the shore unlike the present life-boat slipway which is somewhat sheltered in the lee of the Orme.
Agreed. The design is fundamentally flawed in that respect, I said this right from the start.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 28, 2014, 12:56:26 pm
I was amazed to see the re-erection of fencing, portacabin etc. The cost must be huge.

What about the new lifeboat station, will that suffer a similar problem ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 28, 2014, 01:03:05 pm
What about the new lifeboat station, will that suffer a similar problem ?
It shouldn't do, as the shingle doesn't tend to move about so much at that end of the Prom, but it should certainly be a design consideration for the new Slipway.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 28, 2014, 01:46:31 pm
 
       
What about the new lifeboat station, will that suffer a similar problem ?
It shouldn't do, as the shingle doesn't tend to move about so much at that end of the Prom, but it should certainly be a design consideration for the new Slipway.
           I went down to watch the launching and recovery trials for the proposed new Llandudno Lifeboat a couple of years ago and the boat, which was the new 44ft. Shannon Class craft or FCB-2 (Fast Carriage Boat 2) and is jet powered like a jet-ski, was transported down to the sea on an articulated tractor/carriage from the present concrete apron just beyond the paddling pool where the new boathouse is proposed, down over the shingle banks and launched from the carriage into the sea.
      It was retrieved by driving the boat hard back up onto the shingle at speed (it is a fibreglass boat and therefore very strong) and then hauled back up onto the carriage which then can be turned through 180 degrees on its own axis like a railway turntable and be ready for relaunch almost immediately. The tractor/carriage is built like an articulated tractor-trailer which can be propelled from the rear into the sea for launching or used as a towing vehicle and was very impressive and manoeuverable over the shingle banks while pushing or pulling over the uneven surface, so in practice a slipway should not be required as the carriage will be able to transport the boat down the the water at any state of tide.
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Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2014, 02:33:12 pm
I saw this awhile ago and did not realize it was deliberate ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smZY7el-Ubo&spfreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smZY7el-Ubo&spfreload=10)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 28, 2014, 02:41:38 pm
The new slipway was planned way before the idiots put all that quarry rock there ,maybe if the different dept ,s had talked to each other it would not have costed so much and not taken so long,as the guys doing slipway had to clear the rocks away to start and kept doing that nearly every day . :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on October 28, 2014, 03:30:22 pm
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpEp-bysAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpEp-bysAY)
           
              This was on the same u-tube page Steve and shows how close the fast beaching approach came to writing off the carriage on one of the practice runs!
       
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Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2014, 04:07:52 pm
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpEp-bysAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpEp-bysAY)
       
              This was on the same u-tube page Steve and shows how close the fast beaching approach came to writing off the carriage on one of the practice runs!
   
Oooooops...lucky....I would not fancy writing that report. &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: gazza on October 29, 2014, 10:09:33 pm
Evening all,anyone any ideas why the grand ash hotel is closing for business from Friday 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 30, 2014, 09:25:00 am
Same happened last year and the then manager Des was doubtful that it would open for this season, but it did with a new manager, but ongoing work to literally shore it up is still in place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 30, 2014, 03:10:51 pm
The front entrance of the Grand Ash. It has been like this for months now--such a shame.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 30, 2014, 04:29:57 pm
Same happened last year and the then manager Des was doubtful that it would open for this season, but it did with a new manager, but ongoing work to literally shore it up is still in place.
Tripadvisor reports mixed,... it is a great looking building, be a shame for it to close.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: gazza on October 30, 2014, 09:43:33 pm
I phoned to book a room in the grand ash and was told business is closing Friday 31st October,the owner apparently looking to sell ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on October 31, 2014, 08:33:47 am
It seemed that something was afoot again as they haven't offered any Tinsel and Turkey trips which in past years were very well subscribed.
They have been struggling since the first lot of masonry fell off the front of it, way back last year. It appeared that the more they tried to mend, the more collapsed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 31, 2014, 10:43:08 am
Just spoken to temporary manager of Grand Ash and he says it is closed for refurbishment and they should re-open around March 1st when business starts to pick up again. He did not sound certain though.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on November 01, 2014, 09:38:49 am
                   Nice rainbow over the pier earlier this morning. Wonder if there is a crock of gold to be found at the end or is it in the next kiosk along ---------?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 01, 2014, 10:26:21 am
We paid a visit yesterday afternoon to the Halloween Event at Bodafon Farm, which was being held in aid of Blind Veterans. A great event, that was very well attended. Bodafon Farm is an excellent venue for such events, especially if you have children.   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 01, 2014, 08:47:17 pm
Ha ha Gwynant,  there is certainly a 'crock' in the next kiosk along...... an old 'Crock' at that!   :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on November 01, 2014, 09:55:58 pm
opened your wallet again Fes.
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Post by: Fester on November 02, 2014, 09:10:53 pm
Today, I snapped this 'double' rainbow... a phenomena that I don't think I've seen before.
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Post by: snowcap on November 02, 2014, 10:59:50 pm
Seen it a few times but never caught it on camera
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 02, 2014, 11:04:05 pm
Sometimes you can see three!
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Post by: Yorkie on November 03, 2014, 07:25:17 am
Sometimes you can see three!

Just depends on how much you've had to drink!    _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on November 04, 2014, 07:24:15 am
              I've just walked down to get a paper and was amazed to see a dusting of snow on Tal-y-Fan and everything totally white from Foel Fras upwards and beyond. I didn't think it was that cold last night.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 04, 2014, 08:35:39 am
Funny you should say that. As I left home to go into town yesterday lunchtime, for a short time it hailed on me !
We noticed the snow when we looked out this morning and I said to my OH that it felt cold.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 04, 2014, 09:37:21 am
              I've just walked down to get a paper and was amazed to see a dusting of snow on Tal-y-Fan and everything totally white from Foel Fras upwards and beyond. I didn't think it was that cold last night.
I looked out of the window this morning and couldn't believe it. Thought it was low cloud for a minute, then realised it was snow.  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 04, 2014, 12:06:21 pm
Well temps at Betws were single figure last night, and at Foel Fras they'd have been freezing or below, given the altitude.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2014, 12:42:25 pm
LOOK: First snow of winter 2014 falls on Snowdonia

Some experts are predicting this could be the coldest winter for 100 years.....PHOTOS...
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-first-snow-winter-2014-8045126 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-first-snow-winter-2014-8045126)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 04, 2014, 03:41:54 pm
http://northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/140313/former-llandudno-nightclub-has-asking-price-slashed.aspx (http://northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/140313/former-llandudno-nightclub-has-asking-price-slashed.aspx)

"Councillor Malcolm Bullock, mayor of Llandudno, said: “This is a building that Llandudno has missed and one that really needs to be open.

“Hopefully dropping the asking price will attract more people towards it, as it was a popular venue with a big presence in the town."

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Post by: Ian on November 04, 2014, 04:39:38 pm
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Some experts are predicting this could be the coldest winter for 100 years

Ignoring for a moment the fact that predicting the weather ahead even five days is almost impossible these 'experts' are not doing anything other than fuel the hysterics.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 04, 2014, 05:17:19 pm
http://northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/140313/former-llandudno-nightclub-has-asking-price-slashed.aspx (http://northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/140313/former-llandudno-nightclub-has-asking-price-slashed.aspx)

"Councillor Malcolm Bullock, mayor of Llandudno, said: “This is a building that Llandudno has missed and one that really needs to be open.

“Hopefully dropping the asking price will attract more people towards it, as it was a popular venue with a big presence in the town."
The Pioneer Reporter obviously reads the Forum too!  :laugh:  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 06, 2014, 10:54:51 am
Looks like Arch Motors is entering its final days as a scrapyard, with planning permission being submitted for a shop and houses.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 06, 2014, 11:10:38 am
Looks like Arch Motors is entering its final days as a scrapyard, with planning permission being submitted for a shop and houses.

Shop? That will put it right in the middle of two other shops.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 06, 2014, 01:15:09 pm
Will be too contaminated to build houses (flats ) ex brickworks.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 06, 2014, 01:34:24 pm
Will be too contaminated to build houses (flats ) ex brickworks.

Ysgol John Bright is built on contaminated land!  The land can be reclaimed, just depends on how badly it is contaminated, and cost of cleaning.  Brickworks forms good hardcore! 

CCBC have been on Arthur's back for years, maybe now they will create the opportunity for the place to be utilised for housing or some other useful purpose.
 ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 06, 2014, 03:34:42 pm
And ygb have chimneys all over the grounds for the gasses , houses are a bit different from a school,and before anyone says a scrap yard has been there for years and years ,when Simpsons had it it was a quater of the size ,(do you remember the big fire that they had ) .all for more housing so long as it is safe ,two local store close by already , I am supprised and glad an accident hasn't,t happened round there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2014, 03:50:52 pm
As a user of that roundabout several times a day it will be good to see the back of the fence which blocks the exit and motorists might slow down coming from the Maesdu bridge direction,the amount of times i have pulled onto the mini roundabout only to find some idiot boming along unable to giveway.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2014, 04:01:58 pm
With the decline of Llandudno and still more shops closeing,Who is going to step up to the mark.Now with old Oscar off the scene all CCBC and town councillors can carry on doing nowt knowing they can;t even be held to Oscar,what a bleak future the resort has.Cut the gardeners,leave the lights(maybe not,xmas will tell),leave the beach to pebble itself and no plans in the pipeline for any tourist attractions whatsoever.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 06, 2014, 04:45:57 pm
I'll nominate you for that position Wrex as I'm sure that you could sort out those problems.     $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 06, 2014, 05:10:08 pm
No money and no sense,so that counts me out Hugo but as we seem to be in the top ten places so often why do we fail to attract any one with AMBITION.We have prime sites like Broadway and the Pavilion yet not a snifter of interest,shame,but we are only here for a visit,what about the next generation.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 06, 2014, 06:15:56 pm
No money and no sense,so that counts me out Hugo but as we seem to be in the top ten places so often why do we fail to attract any one with AMBITION.We have prime sites like Broadway and the Pavilion yet not a snifter of interest,shame,but we are only here for a visit,what about the next generation.
Absolutely right, mate.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2014, 11:04:55 am
Perhaps I have missed something somewhere but why is the access to the beach along the prom blocked by railings?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 07, 2014, 11:06:03 am
Perhaps I have missed something somewhere but why is the access to the beach along the prom blocked by railings?
It's because all the shingle that was dumped on the beach a few months ago has moved about and needs bulldozing back into place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2014, 11:07:43 am
Thanks Dave------I expect this will happen every time we have high wind and high tide.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 07, 2014, 11:22:05 am
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It's because all the shingle that was dumped on the beach a few months ago has moved about and needs bulldozing back into place.

Dave, please. It's not "dumped on the beach" or "bulldozing back into place"; it's "carefully and strategically positioned and profiled" and "carefully and strategically repositioned and reprofiled". Let's give our planners and designers the respect they are due. Preferably before the next storm when they'll have to carefully and strategically re-reposition and re-reprofile the whole thing again. 

And to be fair: how would they possibly be expected to know that waves and wind would move shingle about like that? It's not as if there's any research available.  Is there?



Z@@
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 07, 2014, 11:52:18 am
Let's give our planners and designers the respect they are due. Preferably before the next storm when they'll have to carefully and strategically re-reposition and re-reprofile the whole thing again. 

And to be fair: how would they possibly be expected to know that waves and wind would move shingle about like that? It's not as if there's any research available.  Is there?


Someone should tell them that Google has all the answers, if they only looked!   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 07, 2014, 12:00:40 pm
New CBCC initiative ......
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2014, 02:03:51 pm
Think we'd need our woolly "combs" on !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 07, 2014, 06:13:50 pm
It's not the lads working on the job at fault , the other day they cleared the rocks from the slipway next day the rocks were back on the slipway ,the idiot with the clipboard is at fault .as well as the idiots in Conwy  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 08, 2014, 07:20:32 am
It'd be interesting to find out the names of the designer and those who approved the design. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 08, 2014, 09:09:41 am
The designer for what ian
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Post by: Ian on November 08, 2014, 09:26:09 am
The entire scheme.
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Post by: Fester on November 08, 2014, 06:34:15 pm
It'd be interesting to find out the names of the designer and those who approved the design.

Surely it was Fred Karno wasn't it Ian?
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Post by: Ian on November 09, 2014, 07:51:59 am
 _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 10, 2014, 08:22:10 am
I believe we are about to get another micro brewery,with the Great Orme brewery having moved to Builders St i now hear there is going to be another near the Linney Cooper warehouse,i wonder if they need Fester as a taster.
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Post by: Yorkie on November 10, 2014, 12:37:39 pm
Thank goodness we are not having this sort of trouble.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/11/10/muslim-thugs-attack-police-with-rocket-launcher-fireworks-in-the-notorious-islamic-no-go-zone-of-tower-hamlets-in-east-london/ (http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/11/10/muslim-thugs-attack-police-with-rocket-launcher-fireworks-in-the-notorious-islamic-no-go-zone-of-tower-hamlets-in-east-london/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2014, 12:42:45 pm
Thank goodness we are not having this sort of trouble.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/11/10/muslim-thugs-attack-police-with-rocket-launcher-fireworks-in-the-notorious-islamic-no-go-zone-of-tower-hamlets-in-east-london/ (http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/11/10/muslim-thugs-attack-police-with-rocket-launcher-fireworks-in-the-notorious-islamic-no-go-zone-of-tower-hamlets-in-east-london/)
You've got to be very wary when dealing with openly racist websites like the one you linked, Yorkie. as they obviously will not be presenting the most balanced of views.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 10, 2014, 06:48:01 pm
I found the detail interesting and I don't think the video was staged.  I had the link from a reliable site and thought others may be interested in what is happenning in the UK Capital.  It is your pleasure to delete the link should you so wish.    ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2014, 08:48:48 am
The thing is, Yorkie, yobs come in all colours and sizes. You are playing into the hands of people trying to stir up racial hatred by focussing on the fact that these particular yobs were apparently Muslim (although I saw no proof of that in the video anyway).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 11, 2014, 08:57:06 am
That site is hosted in North Carolina and is part of a fundamentalist anti-Islam movement in the Bible belt in the US.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2014, 12:48:10 pm
I see a Planning Application has been submitted for major demolition and rebuilding works at the Loreto Convent on Abbey Road:

Demolition of St Josephs; St Anne's, the Annex and
outbuildings and construction of a new residential care
home facility, including community and administrative
space, self-contained apartments and chapel (C2/C3/D1);
refurbishment and extension of existing convent building
to provide a retreat and conference facility (C2/D1);
reconfiguration of existing and provision of a new
vehicular access and circulation space; parking and
associated landscaping.



Full application here:
http://tinyurl.com/obl55l3 (http://tinyurl.com/obl55l3)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 11, 2014, 06:37:44 pm
Come on forum members,i have tried to find out what has happenend to the Tudno Castle project,tried to find out what the opening date  of the Snooze bar,yet not a hint of any answers,in days goneby you would have had an answer in minutes,now ,nothing,not sure what or who has lost interest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 11, 2014, 06:46:10 pm
Tudno Castle project is moving along, don't know about Snooze.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 12, 2014, 08:52:08 am
Maybe asleep on the job!   :D
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Post by: Tom Davidson on November 12, 2014, 11:00:32 am
Club 147 for sale. Will remain open while a buyer is found.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 12, 2014, 11:32:51 am
Club 147 for sale. Will remain open while a buyer is found.

Had a look on Tripadvisor...
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g190724-d3491200-Reviews-Club_147-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html (http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g190724-d3491200-Reviews-Club_147-Llandudno_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on November 12, 2014, 12:11:44 pm
And Christchurch (Bonkers) is for sale
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 12, 2014, 12:30:52 pm
Where is it for sale?

Cheers,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 12, 2014, 02:18:58 pm
Hmmm, Club 147 and Bonkers are the same owner... amongst other local businesses.

Divorce is a costly business.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: nwpo on November 12, 2014, 02:29:44 pm
Another divorce?

Mind you, handing over money to Jim Edwards (ex Chairman of Llandudno Rugby Club and local failed businessman) doesn't help either...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on November 13, 2014, 01:47:08 am
Another divorce?

Mind you, handing over money to Jim Edwards (ex Chairman of Llandudno Rugby Club and local failed businessman) doesn't help either...

How is Jim anything to do with Bonkers and 147?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: nwpo on November 13, 2014, 09:55:33 pm
He lost about £50k (possibly as much as £60k) which he 'invested' in one of Jims businesses. At the same time he was telling Jim that he could barely afford to pay the wages at 147.

And I wonder what will happen now to the lease he signed with Mostyn Estates to build and run the new Golf Range on Bodafon Fields?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on November 14, 2014, 10:15:09 am
He lost about £50k (possibly as much as £60k) which he 'invested' in one of Jims businesses. At the same time he was telling Jim that he could barely afford to pay the wages at 147.

And I wonder what will happen now to the lease he signed with Mostyn Estates to build and run the new Golf Range on Bodafon Fields?

Isn't that what being a business man is all about? Risk and reward?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2014, 05:10:58 pm
Just had a walk around Llandudno this afternoon, there's a New game open to all ages, can you tell the difference between some leaves and a pile of dog muck on the pavement, apparently not every one can, judging by the smeared residue everywhere, the situation appears to be on the increase perhaps on these darker early evenings our "responsible" dog owners are not so responsible.... $angry$...out of sight out of mind.   $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 15, 2014, 09:00:03 am
This situation is always worse at this time of the year, as we seem to get people with 2 and 3 dogs coming into the holiday flats for extended times. Also they aren't good at keeping their dogs on a lead and/or under proper control. :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 15, 2014, 10:57:06 am
A DILAPIDATED former youth club close to Llandudno town centre has been bought by a landowner who says it’s keen to redevelop the site.
The former Youth Centre building in Trinity Avenue, was originally used as a Cottage Hospital before the construction of the present Llandudno Hospital.
But since the Conwy County Council run Youth Centre closed several years ago and was put up for sale, the condition of the building has deteriorated and it has been subjected to vandalism.

Last week Mostyn Estates purchased the property from the council,with the intention, says managing director Edward Hiller, of replacing it with residential accommodation, designed to fit with surrounding properties.

“The building has hung around unused for a considerable time and is increasingly becoming an issue for the locality," he added.
"Whilst it undoubtedly has some historical context for Llandudno, it is neither listed by Cadw or in the town’s conservation area.
“It is on a prominent site close to the centre and this area has seen significant improvements over the past couple of years, such as the station refurbishment.

“Moving forward with a new scheme for the property demonstrates our confidence in the underlying prospects for Llandudno."
Plans for future use of the site are still under discussion, but Mr Hiller says given that it is surrounded mostly by residential properties, this is the most obvious future use to provide a mixture of reasonably priced accommodation.
He said: “The layout and shape of the existing building doesn’t lend itself to re-use, so demolition will be necessary.
“However we will be carefully removing a number of the features and materials and looking into the feasibility of incorporating some of them in any new design."
REF pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 15, 2014, 01:06:55 pm
Oh dear its that time of year again,i was in Chester last week ,liverpool yesterday and Cheshire Oaks this morning and they all have one thing in common,Christmas is very evident in all of them ,lights,decorations and yes of course i come home and no sign of xmas whatsoever,no input by the town council,no support to those buisnesses invest in Llandudno,no support,stuff em,end of annual rant,never any change,less than 6 weeks and no council interest,ba hum bug
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: viv on November 15, 2014, 10:34:25 pm
Xmas lights were switched on in Maes Clyd, Llandudno, tonight. Looking good. pic.twitter.com/NXEPfWqERS
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 16, 2014, 08:00:57 am
Not even put the 10 xmas lights up yet
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 16, 2014, 04:45:26 pm
Wrex we went through deganwy and junction yesterday they have both decorated the lam posts ,the rally in town today lots of visitors but town looked dull .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 16, 2014, 07:45:15 pm
Norman no matter how much i go on nothing changes,the town council have no ambition too make the town xmas attractive,no desire and what these shops make of the lack of effort i don;t know.Madoc st lost one of its stringe 5 years ago and if you look its rediculous,have they made any effort to replace it in 5 years i doubt,to much effort.Why nobody is interested baffles me but one lone person will never get Lloyd st mob moving.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 17, 2014, 08:15:27 am
Maybe it would be a reasonable idea to start a petition, either on line or using sheets of paper like the old days?  Surely with a direct approach, the Shopkeepers, their customers and their Staff would be willing to sign, and the Public would probably queue up to do so.  You kow how the British like queuing!

There are folk out there who will lend a hand so you would not have to tackle it all yourself.  A bit of publicity would also help, contact the NWWN and the Post and Pioneer for support.

You could ask for help from the County   :twoface:  and Town Councillors  :twoface:  but that would just be a wasted effort!

Now if it was a skip you wanted, with a non existant dining facility, that's a different matter!
 WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 17, 2014, 08:44:10 am
Petitions and letters of objection seem to have a habit of disappearing within high places. :o From experience a certain planning issue was vociferously objected to locally, but when questioned about, it was found that quite a lot of letters of objection had been mislaid..................Until the local press was threatened. Funny how they were found 'in another file' &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 17, 2014, 09:55:01 am
Nice crowd in Mostyn St for the Wales Rally GB finish yesterday:
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Post by: Fester on November 17, 2014, 11:58:33 am
.... yes Dave, and that directly led to the Pier being deserted!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 17, 2014, 12:50:33 pm
.... yes Dave, and that directly led to the Pier being deserted!
That's a good point, I saw something in the paper about the Rally bringing £10m into the area, is there any proof of this?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 17, 2014, 12:52:05 pm
.... yes Dave, and that directly led to the Pier being deserted!
That's a good point, I saw something in the paper about the Rally bringing £10m into the area, is there any proof of this?

That's a mistake - Fester just dropped his wallet in Mostyn Street - but it was soon returned
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 17, 2014, 12:54:51 pm
 _))*  _))*  we spent £9.30 in Cups and Cakes while we were waiting for the rally cars, every little helps! 😀
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 17, 2014, 01:07:18 pm
.... yes Dave, and that directly led to the Pier being deserted!
That's a good point, I saw something in the paper about the Rally bringing £10m into the area, is there any proof of this?

That's a mistake - Fester just dropped his wallet in Mostyn Street - but it was soon returned
:laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2014, 01:34:07 pm
Quote
That's a good point, I saw something in the paper about the Rally bringing £10m into the area, is there any proof of this?
we spent £9.30 in Cups and Cakes while we were waiting for the rally cars, every little helps! 😀

OK that's a start....Now we just have to account for only £9,999,990.70p    ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 17, 2014, 02:07:13 pm
If everyone adds to this thread what they spent yesterday, by tonight we could be up to £30!  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 17, 2014, 05:50:34 pm
We didn't go into Town, so didn't spend anything.  We travelled in the opposite direction, but did return in the evening for a meal.   Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 17, 2014, 08:04:05 pm
Spent £16.00 on petrol on Saturday. Bought a Telegraph same day and a Sunday paper yesterday.......................
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 19, 2014, 04:03:32 pm
Historic Llandudno sites to undergo refurbishment
TWO historical sites in Llandudno will be refurbished with funds from Conwy County and Llandudno Town councils.
The tram shelter on West Shore and the Colonnades at Happy Valley are to receive £23,229 from Conwy Council.
Llandudno Town Council applied for the funds and has put in £28,000 for work on the Grade II listed structures.
Mayor of Llandudno, Cllr Malcolm Bullock, said: “At least they’re being renovated and used, It’s definitely got to have something done with it.
“It could be a place where people can go to find out what’s happening in the town and it would be good if they could get a cup of tea or coffee.
"That was the main stop for all the trams and it’s an important piece of history so it should be preserved."
Other suggestions include a bike rental hub and a cafe.

The Mayor also commended the Friends of Happy Valley for their work in keeping the Colonnades maintained.
Friends’ chairman Gerry Sweeny said: “It’s brilliant news - the Colonnades is a very important structure.
"The problem now is how to keep it being used. We’re hoping to do a weekly craft market there, which would be a place people want to go to.
We’re also very happy about the tram shelter, but again it is finding a use for it.”
Friends of Happy Valley, which has been running for three years and has 18 members, has worked with local organisation CIAS to keep the Colonnades benches painted and looking good.

The funding was allocated in a Conwy Council cabinet meeting on November 11, with work expected to be finished by Easter 2015 REFPioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 19, 2014, 05:34:27 pm
We know ccbc are not real with Our money ,this proves it ,few years ago the guy from rest and thankfull cafe wanted to take the shelter on do it up ,cafe beach stuff what did this lot do ,oh yes knocked him back ,all that money on that and to paint a few benches on the colanade would be better spent on doing up Mostyn street (paving slabs ,Xmas lights ) _))*.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 19, 2014, 05:38:27 pm
That's right, Frank Gorka tried for years to convert the tram shelter into a cafe but faced numerous obstacles from CCBC.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 19, 2014, 05:51:22 pm
That's correct.  He offered to take it on after CCBC noted it was falling into disrepair. However, they put one thing after another into his path until he finally gave up, having spent more than £15000 of his own money.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2014, 09:01:38 am
That's correct.  He offered to take it on after CCBC noted it was falling into disrepair. However, they put one thing after another into his path until he finally gave up, having spent more than £15000 of his own money.
It really amazes me. It seems evident that CCBC are not interested in letting the private sector invest in local facilities under their control. There is so much potential for private sector investment to revitalise tired areas like West Shore and Rhos Point, especially at a time when public resources are so limited

The truly ironic thing is that hard working local businessmen like Frank Gorka and the owners of Dylans Restaurant are presented with nothing but obstacles when they try and do something, whilst a 'Celebrity Chef' from outside the area is welcomed with open arms and given preferential treatment, but achieves precisely nothing in two years.

We can only hope that the Conwy/Denbighshire merger gets rid of the dead wood in CCBC and brings in people with commercial experience in the real world, instead of the no hopers employed at present in senior roles.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on November 20, 2014, 09:12:32 am
"We can only hope that the Conwy/Denbighshire merger gets rid of the dead wood in CCBC and brings in people with commercial experience in the real world, instead of the no hopers employed at present in senior roles."

We hope the merger is for the better but somehow I can't see it improving things at all.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 20, 2014, 09:22:34 am
Just think of all the redundancies that will occur, and the BIG payoffs that will go with them!  Enhanced pensions, re-employment for some as Consultants, or part-time seasonal jobs.  It will be 1996 all over again, just like when the Unitary Authority was formed.

Just one great big expensive re-organisation.  More power AND Dosh to the top jobs, and everyone else wanting more money for the "extra" responsibility.  Unison will be in its element!  Don't bank on any savings that will reduce our contributions to the gravy train.

 ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 21, 2014, 02:23:48 pm
Typical weather for Llandudno Xmas Fayre.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 21, 2014, 04:13:32 pm
Yeah--- Dark, wet and nasty.

Hope it is better tomorrow-we have umpteen hand knitted blankets to sell.

Roll up, Roll up---------------I'm doing my best  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 21, 2014, 04:42:36 pm
I love the Llandudno fayre, got some good stuff last year (some glass jewellery boxes were v. nice) and I didn't even mind it was right on my doorstep (former Madoc Street resident).

Shame about the weather mind, hope it brightens up this weekend/next week.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 21, 2014, 06:09:00 pm
CCBC will not allow Llandudno to have a sandy beach,CCBC will not allow Llandudno town council to put xmas lights on OUR victorian lamposts along Mostyn st and of course CCBC as we know would not allow the bus stop on the West Shore to be used as a cafe-shop,i think its about time Cll Graham Rees got his A*** down to Llandudno and start addressing Our problems.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 21, 2014, 08:04:44 pm
Seriously Wrex, if I were you I would move to  Blackpool, you would have a more relaxing existance and enough lights to keep you going for life!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2014, 12:59:53 am
I have just spent a couple of days in Manchester, and you NEED two full days to do the Xmas market justice.
It is excellent, and there are some fantastic vendors again this year.
It is about 30 times the size of the Llandudno Fayre,  Oh, and you don't have to pay £1 to get in just to get to the stalls, which I think is disgusting in Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 22, 2014, 07:12:09 am
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Oh, and you don't have to pay £1 to get in just to get to the stalls, which I think is disgusting in Llandudno.

I agree.  That charge for so very little has deterred us for two years.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on November 22, 2014, 07:17:36 am
What a whole Quid just to walk down your own street?  Effin' robbery I call it, who is running it, Ronnie Knight and the Krays?   There's a band and a half!    _))*  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2014, 10:11:39 am
I have just spent a couple of days in Manchester, and you NEED two full days to do the Xmas market justice.
It is excellent, and there are some fantastic vendors again this year.
It is about 30 times the size of the Llandudno Fayre,  Oh, and you don't have to pay £1 to get in just to get to the stalls, which I think is disgusting in Llandudno.
What justification can there be for that £1 charge, I wonder? The Organiser already receives a tidy sum for each Stall that participates, the £1 charge just reeks of greed.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 22, 2014, 12:25:32 pm
It does bring in lots of shoppers ,tourists so i support it,although i went this morning and was not impressed but as you know it would be hard to get my approval.Who runs the show im not quite sure but there has to be massive expense hiring all the tents and cabins,generators etc for only 4 days use,like though there has to be 20 coaches in just for the xmas fayre
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 22, 2014, 12:59:17 pm
Hate to tell you, but it isn't £1.00 this year. It is £1.50. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 22, 2014, 04:55:58 pm
Yes, it's £1.50. There's a notice by the entrance kiosk, saying it is organised by Llandudno Development Partnership and no council or individual receives the proceeds.

What I don't understand is, given every stallholder pays a hefty amount to attend the event, why any entrance fee needs to be charged? Where is all the money going?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 22, 2014, 05:06:39 pm
If i had a pound for every extrava visitor we could scrap the fair for a year ,ha
# :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 22, 2014, 06:44:43 pm
There's a notice by the entrance kiosk, saying it is organised by Llandudno Development Partnership and no council or individual receives the proceeds.


I don't believe that to be true. It would be the first year if that were the case.
Who is the person who controls the entry to the tent?, and who's is the very FIRST stall you must see before moving on?
Has this changed from previous years?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 22, 2014, 07:19:57 pm
I have no interest in it even if it was free, let alone £1.50, but then I am known as Scrooge!  I*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on November 22, 2014, 08:38:58 pm
I personally object to paying an admission charge for events such as this where the prime purpose is to SELL ME something. Antiques fairs also annoy me by having admission charges. I wonder what reaction there would be if all retail outlets of any description, started to make such a charge.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 23, 2014, 06:48:27 am
It was busy enought when i went at ten,god knows what it was like at one,the traffic was horrendous yesterday obviously proving it kept Llandudno busy and in the top ten,but i think it is time to get rid of at least one of the large tents,its too busy for such small area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on November 23, 2014, 12:29:46 pm
  The idea of charging to enter an area where goods are being sold was originally to create an impression that the goods inside were so unbelievably cheap that every one would be eager to stump up fee.  Even the mighty Matalan tried that idea out through "membership" before you could enter.
  But of course this definitely does not apply to a Xmas fair manned by individual traders, some of whom might be tempted to up their prices to the maximum.
  So, who ever is manning the pay booth is just taking the customers for a ride. That's my opinion.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 23, 2014, 02:46:14 pm
Yes, it's £1.50. There's a notice by the entrance kiosk, saying it is organised by Llandudno Development Partnership and no council or individual receives the proceeds.

What I don't understand is, given every stallholder pays a hefty amount to attend the event, why any entrance fee needs to be charged? Where is all the money going?

Come on Dave-- dig around a little and see who is behind it ! :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2014, 03:27:50 pm
"It is being organised and promoted by Llandudno Development Partnership with the assistance of Conwy County Borough Council, Welsh Government, Llandudno Town Council, North Wales Regional Tourism Partnership, Llandudno Hospitality, Mostyn Estates & the Victoria Centre."

With all those organisations helping out and the money from the stallholders, I'm amazed they need to charge any fee!!

Stalls cost from £200 to £600:
http://www.llandudnochristmasfayre.co.uk/images/LCF_FAYRE%20APP%20FORM_2014.pdf (http://www.llandudnochristmasfayre.co.uk/images/LCF_FAYRE%20APP%20FORM_2014.pdf)
..and there are over 100 stalls participating.

According to this letter on their website, the organisers for Llandudno Development Partnership are a Mr Barry Mortlock and a Mr Simon Burrows.
http://www.llandudnochristmasfayre.co.uk/images/LCF_STALLHOLDER_LETTER_2014.pdf (http://www.llandudnochristmasfayre.co.uk/images/LCF_STALLHOLDER_LETTER_2014.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 23, 2014, 03:57:43 pm
Same Barry Mortlock who started Badgers?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 23, 2014, 05:28:11 pm
Same Barry Mortlock who started Badgers?
I imagine it would be the same one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 23, 2014, 06:12:31 pm
wORKED ALLDAY TODAY SO I HAVE NO IDEA HOW BUSY TODAY WAS
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 24, 2014, 08:43:56 am
Same Barry Mortlock who started Badgers?

As well as many other things .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2014, 06:41:49 pm
The most frustrating thing for me this weekend, was the large number of visitors to the Pier, who were carrying bags with the Xmas Fayre logo, who merely wanted to complain to me about the entrance fee!

Just imagine it from my point of view, they are coming in to a shop which is free to enter, purely to moan about having to pay into another shop.  Why is it my fault?

Sadly, although I agree with them, it's irrelevant because they have already spent their money elsewhere and I still have to listen to the moaning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 24, 2014, 09:32:22 pm
Althought the event seemed to bring a lot of people into the town it seems there where a lot of new people on lots of coaches unaware of charges,we all know no other xmas market charges entry,especially just for us to pay for overpriced goods.Now here lies the problem,do we want it or not,lots of buisnesses have made money in town,who else besides Mr Rose wants to run it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 25, 2014, 06:34:39 am
Just watched Ian Turners beach video,i never realised how much rock has been dragged on the sand,it is disgusting and every CCBC has been to told to keep quiet,they are paid to represent us not the leader of CCBC.tHANK GOD IAN IS KEEPING THIS IN THE NEWS.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2014, 06:35:13 am
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we all know no other xmas market charges entry,especially just for us to pay for overpriced goods

The best ones certainly don't.  There are odd pockets in some cities where admission is charged but folk always have the option.  The only time we've ever paid was in Berlin, where one place was charging.  The rest didn't and were actually better.

Frankly, I believe it gives visitors a bad first impression of the place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2014, 09:43:30 am
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we all know no other xmas market charges entry,especially just for us to pay for overpriced goods

The best ones certainly don't.  There are odd pockets in some cities where admission is charged but folk always have the option.  The only time we've ever paid was in Berlin, where one place was charging.  The rest didn't and were actually better.

Frankly, I believe it gives visitors a bad first impression of the place.
Given the financing received from all the various organisations listed earlier, combined with the revenue from stallholders (must be £30,000+), I find it hard to believe that any admission charge needs to be made at all. Where is all the money going?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 25, 2014, 10:39:20 am
Just watched Ian Turners beach video,i never realised how much rock has been dragged on the sand,it is disgusting and every CCBC has been to told to keep quiet,they are paid to represent us not the leader of CCBC.tHANK GOD IAN IS KEEPING THIS IN THE NEWS.

Keeping HIMSELF in the news. As usual  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 25, 2014, 05:19:56 pm
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we all know no other xmas market charges entry,especially just for us to pay for overpriced goods

The best ones certainly don't.  There are odd pockets in some cities where admission is charged but folk always have the option.  The only time we've ever paid was in Berlin, where one place was charging.  The rest didn't and were actually better.

Frankly, I believe it gives visitors a bad first impression of the place.

Given the financing received from all the various organisations listed earlier, combined with the revenue from stallholders (must be £30,000+), I find it hard to believe that any admission charge needs to be made at all. Where is all the money going?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/watch-llandudno-christmas-fayre-2014-8163248 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/watch-llandudno-christmas-fayre-2014-8163248)

Pics in the gallery here show the crowds on Sat. ( all at £1.50 each ) No wonder my OH didn't go in..............he hates crowds.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2014, 05:44:34 pm
Driving along Gloddaeth St at 4pm, and there was one of those sunsets which made it look like the sky was on fire at West Shore.
So, I pootled down there, but of course by the time I could drag my creaking bones out of the car, it had subsided a bit.
Still looks nice though!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 25, 2014, 06:05:35 pm
Very nice!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2014, 06:47:14 pm

Pics in the gallery here show the crowds on Sat. ( all at £1.50 each ) No wonder my OH didn't go in..............he hates crowds.

Well, Nem, maybe he could have found a 'back door' way of getting in for free.    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Members, don't worry about understanding that remark, it's an 'in joke', between Nem and I. 

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2014, 07:10:19 pm
Fantastic sunset wasn't it, a really vivid orange at one point.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 25, 2014, 08:18:07 pm
Driving along Gloddaeth St at 4pm, and there was one of those sunsets which made it look like the sky was on fire at West Shore.
So, I pootled down there, but of course by the time I could drag my creaking bones out of the car, it had subsided a bit.
Still looks nice though!

Beautiful photos Fester, have you been having private lessons from a certain photographer?         $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 25, 2014, 08:47:48 pm

Pics in the gallery here show the crowds on Sat. ( all at £1.50 each ) No wonder my OH didn't go in..............he hates crowds.

Well, Nem, maybe he could have found a 'back door' way of getting in for free.    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Members, don't worry about understanding that remark, it's an 'in joke', between Nem and I.

Might have been a bit crowded trying to get in that way !!! :o :o :o :-X :-X :-X
 _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2014, 09:26:07 am
 :o  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on November 26, 2014, 09:43:07 am
         As I was cycling past the new Yacht Club slipway this morning I noticed that there is more "re-profiling" going on. There is a van parked on the slipway, a man working with a shovel, (presumably to find where the concrete finishes under the shingle), and another guy with a concrete-cutting saw waiting to start work. At the other end of the prom there was a council lad pressure-washing the shorter jetty, meanwhile on the West Shore Prom the sand is building up at the Orme end of the Paddling Pool, and we haven't had any substantial wind yet this winter..............
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2014, 09:51:16 am
         As I was cycling past the new Yacht Club slipway this morning I noticed that there is more "re-profiling" going on. There is a van parked on the slipway, a man working with a shovel, (presumably to find where the concrete finishes under the shingle), and another guy with a concrete-cutting saw waiting to start work. At the other end of the prom there was a council lad pressure-washing the shorter jetty, meanwhile on the West Shore Prom the sand is building up at the Orme end of the Paddling Pool, and we haven't had any substantial wind yet this winter..............
I also noticed the other day that shingle had covered the lower section of the new Slipway again. The Yacht Club must be fuming!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 26, 2014, 01:40:43 pm
Gwynant them two guys are trying to fix the snags ,if you look the council have marked all the bad points and theirs loads ,guy told me weeks ago council won,t hand it over to the yacht club till right ,so until they move all the rocks it will never be any good  _))*,   As for that sand on the west shore that has been like that most of the summer .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2014, 05:25:45 pm
Broadway Boulevard is going up for Auction on the 10th December, with a Guide price of £500k. Personally, I suspect it will sell for far less.

http://www.auction.co.uk/commercial/LotDetails.asp?A=874&MP=24&ID=874000141&S=C&O=A (http://www.auction.co.uk/commercial/LotDetails.asp?A=874&MP=24&ID=874000141&S=C&O=A)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Spleen on November 26, 2014, 07:35:27 pm
Wasn't that originally valued at around the £750k mark??
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 26, 2014, 09:16:21 pm
Great debate on facebook,you know you are from Llandudno when-site all about the xmas lights,so many different views,people saying the town does;nt need lights others supporting Parc Llandudno for not putting any lights or xmas trees up,this is a free  country and we all have are views but i never understand how people don;t see as a tourist and shopping town hat making the town look fantastic over the festive period is a waste of money and time,gobsmacked but like CCBC we must obey.                                                                           
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2014, 09:16:41 am
There's a piece in the Pioneer this week about the Llandudno Development Partnership asking for ideas to improve the town. Some of the ideas mentioned are ones that have been discussed on here before - bring the Victorian Street Lamps along Mostyn St back into use, replacing the Prom Shelters etc. This is all well and good, but the key thing is that there is no way of contacting the Llandudno Development Partnership mentioned in the article! Do they really want the public's ideas and feedback, or is it just a sham consultation to make themselves look good?

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/141244/llandudno-development-partnership-calls-for-ideas-to-improve-town.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/141244/llandudno-development-partnership-calls-for-ideas-to-improve-town.aspx)

LLANDUDNO Development Partnership is calling for ideas to improve the town over the next six years.

The partnership will put together a wish list from Llandudno businesses and groups to submit to Destination Conwy.

The last strategy, which was completed this year, includes the swimming pool, railway station, Mostyn Art Gallery and better signing to car parks.

Berin Jones, chairman of the Llandudno Hospitality Association, said he believes the list is good for the town.

He said: “The projects that have been taken on in the past have all been beneficial, just look at the railway station for instance, which is a wonderful asset to the town.
“I hope we can make the next list just as good.”

Ideas so far registered by the partnership include rebuilding the promenade shelters, attention to the North Shore beach, refurbishment of the Victorian street lamps on Mostyn Street and wet weather attractions.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 27, 2014, 05:04:25 pm
We parked in Llandudno for a couple of hours this afternoon and on our return found this leaflet under the windscreen, all the other parked cars had one too! Someone is not too happy!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2014, 05:29:36 pm
We parked in Llandudno for a couple of hours this afternoon and on our return found this leaflet under the windscreen, all the other parked cars had one too! Someone is not too happy!
I did see some leaflets scattered around on the pavements and in the gutter, think it could have been them. Thought it was a flyer for a band.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 27, 2014, 05:59:59 pm
Then whoever put them there could be done with littering? Should be on CCTV?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: jemima on November 27, 2014, 10:08:57 pm
Not sure of time, but between 3 and 4 p.m. saw a couple going along Gloddaeth Street, putting these on the car windscreens.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on November 27, 2014, 11:42:52 pm
the plot thickens,litter louts ,tell Oscar    oops
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on November 28, 2014, 08:43:57 am
             I passed Llandudno ASDA earlier and there were people queueing from the front door down to the staff entrance at the side and shoppers for non-Black Friday items (normal shopping) were being admitted through the Cafe entrance. Inside the store there were queues as well from the front door to the offers and everyone seemed to be pushing trolleys around with 40 in. televisions in them!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 28, 2014, 08:49:20 am
Not sure of time, but between 3 and 4 p.m. saw a couple going along Gloddaeth Street, putting these on the car windscreens.

The flyers were placed as far apart as Gloddaeth Street and Vaughn Street, they were seen by my OH and our neighbour in both places, so some one has been busy !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 28, 2014, 09:27:34 am
Then whoever put them there could be done with littering? Should be on CCTV?
I don't think it was the people who placed the leaflets that made the mess, it was car owners throwing them away, I suspect.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 28, 2014, 09:28:49 am
             I passed Llandudno ASDA earlier and there were people queueing from the front door down to the staff entrance at the side and shoppers for non-Black Friday items (normal shopping) were being admitted through the Cafe entrance. Inside the store there were queues as well from the front door to the offers and everyone seemed to be pushing trolleys around with 40 in. televisions in them!
It's amazing, isn't it, a form of mass hysteria. We read about how so many people in the country are struggling to make ends meet - a walk in any shopping centre during December will cast doubt upon that!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 28, 2014, 09:52:45 am
             I passed Llandudno ASDA earlier and there were people queueing from the front door down to the staff entrance at the side and shoppers for non-Black Friday items (normal shopping) were being admitted through the Cafe entrance. Inside the store there were queues as well from the front door to the offers and everyone seemed to be pushing trolleys around with 40 in. televisions in them!
It's amazing, isn't it, a form of mass hysteria. We read about how so many people in the country are struggling to make ends meet - a walk in any shopping centre during December will cast doubt upon that!

Surely Dave, people queuing for hours etc just to get a discount on an item would indicate people are struggling financially!  ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 28, 2014, 09:53:24 am
on the same topic the amazon site has been down all day
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 28, 2014, 10:43:42 am
             I passed Llandudno ASDA earlier and there were people queueing from the front door down to the staff entrance at the side and shoppers for non-Black Friday items (normal shopping) were being admitted through the Cafe entrance. Inside the store there were queues as well from the front door to the offers and everyone seemed to be pushing trolleys around with 40 in. televisions in them!
It's amazing, isn't it, a form of mass hysteria. We read about how so many people in the country are struggling to make ends meet - a walk in any shopping centre during December will cast doubt upon that!

Surely Dave, people queuing for hours etc just to get a discount on an item would indicate people are struggling financially!  ???
I take your point, its a good one, but people who are struggling financial could maybe do without 40" tvs?  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 28, 2014, 10:46:03 am
If you can't get excited about substandard electronics, reduced by a marginal amount, then you don't know the true spirit of Thanksgiving.

...oh no, wait.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 28, 2014, 10:52:32 am
If you can't get excited about substandard electronics, reduced by a marginal amount, then you don't know the true spirit of Thanksgiving.

...oh no, wait.
  VV :laugh:  VV
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 28, 2014, 10:54:27 am
             I passed Llandudno ASDA earlier and there were people queueing from the front door down to the staff entrance at the side and shoppers for non-Black Friday items (normal shopping) were being admitted through the Cafe entrance. Inside the store there were queues as well from the front door to the offers and everyone seemed to be pushing trolleys around with 40 in. televisions in them!
It's amazing, isn't it, a form of mass hysteria. We read about how so many people in the country are struggling to make ends meet - a walk in any shopping centre during December will cast doubt upon that!

Surely Dave, people queuing for hours etc just to get a discount on an item would indicate people are struggling financially!  ???
I take your point, its a good one, but people who are struggling financial could maybe do without 40" tvs?  :o

I'd agree but it's Christmas. That could well be a present someone and they are desperate to get it that bit cheaper.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 28, 2014, 11:47:26 am
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a613051/black-friday-scuffles-break-out-in-tesco-as-customers-dash-for-deals.html#~oWUpSV1I9Gp6tU (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a613051/black-friday-scuffles-break-out-in-tesco-as-customers-dash-for-deals.html#~oWUpSV1I9Gp6tU)

OMG ! :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 28, 2014, 01:55:33 pm
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If you can't get excited about substandard electronics, reduced by a marginal amount, then you don't know the true spirit of Thanksgiving.

...oh no, wait.


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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 28, 2014, 04:45:56 pm
Spot on! The own brand supermarket TV sets are to say the least not very good! Just look at the Which magazine reports on them! Much better with a decent quality Samsung or similar quality product!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on November 28, 2014, 05:47:34 pm
Spot on! The own brand supermarket TV sets are to say the least not very good! Just look at the Which magazine reports on them! Much better with a decent quality Samsung or similar quality product!


In the first video Tesco seemed to have a job lot of Blaupunkt TV's and there were Samsungs in another but they are almost certainly 'end of line' sets. A good way of clearing old stock I guess but the way some people were acting was ridiculous to be honest. The stores only have themselves to blame for causing the hysteria, copied as usual from the US!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 28, 2014, 09:20:26 pm
on the same topic the amazon site has been down all day

Argos website was also down for large parts of Friday, 'volume of traffic too high'

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 28, 2014, 10:53:01 pm
Spot on! The own brand supermarket TV sets are to say the least not very good! Just look at the Which magazine reports on them! Much better with a decent quality Samsung or similar quality product!


In the first video Tesco seemed to have a job lot of Blaupunkt TV's and there were Samsungs in another but they are almost certainly 'end of line' sets. A good way of clearing old stock I guess but the way some people were acting was ridiculous to be honest. The stores only have themselves to blame for causing the hysteria, copied as usual from the US!

The Blaupunkt model tested by Which is a 'don't buy' there will be many disappointed people who have bought one of those!
Seeing those people fighting over them in Tescos is unbelievable! Did they do no research before going in to the big fight?  ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 28, 2014, 11:01:46 pm
Found on Facebook!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 29, 2014, 08:04:29 am
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2014, 02:38:13 pm
I saw earlier that a Mini digger was once again clearing shingle from the Yacht Club slipway. Approx 30 foot of the slipway was covered with shingle. Funny to see one man working and no less than another five watching him.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 02, 2014, 02:55:02 pm
I cannot understand why they need to do it this time of the year.

It seems a waste of money.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 02, 2014, 04:46:06 pm
They were just getting started when I passed this morning ,they are clearing the rocks so they can sort the snags out  _))*  so they can then hand it over to the council ,go there tomorrow the rocks will be back  _))*.  who is paying for all this crap .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 04, 2014, 02:16:55 pm
Nice photo of your Father  Suepp in this weeks nostalgia section of the NWWN      $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 08, 2014, 06:13:06 pm
Our retirement group had it's Christmas Lunch at the Queens Hotel today and after enjoying a very nice meal there,  we were entertained afterwards by Stan and the Trinity Church Bell ringers.     $good$
It was really nice to watch and listen to the group enthusiastically doing the bellringing and I just wish that our Carol singing could have complemented you but it didn't.
Sorry about that Stan but we all enjoyed ourselves listening to you again.
Good luck at the Maenan Abbey on Wednesday and best wishes to you and all the Trinity Bell ringers for Christmas and the New Year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on December 08, 2014, 09:19:06 pm
Thank you Hugo, all compliments gratefully received!!

We very much enjoyed seeing you all once again. Seasonal greetings to you and yours.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 08, 2014, 09:50:56 pm
Just seen a advert for Santa;s village at Bodafon farm,im suprised this is the first thing i have seen for it.It starts friday until xmas eve.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 09, 2014, 09:22:37 am
Just seen a advert for Santa;s village at Bodafon farm,im suprised this is the first thing i have seen for it.It starts friday until xmas eve.
Full details can be found here:
http://www.thesantavillage.co.uk/ (http://www.thesantavillage.co.uk/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 14, 2014, 10:25:08 am
Interesting to see what Llandudno's parking issue was in July 1949...

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 14, 2014, 11:35:53 am
It would be interesting, if I could see it!  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 14, 2014, 01:19:09 pm
Same here !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 14, 2014, 03:06:32 pm
Here...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on December 14, 2014, 06:08:01 pm
Personally I think The Parade should either be:
- widened (sacrilege I know);
- have parking on one side only; or
- have parking on both sides but made one way only towards the Great Orme with the main shopping street made one way in the opposite direction.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 16, 2014, 12:34:24 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-30491642 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-30491642)

Nice bit of publicity for both Llandudno and the anti drink/drive campaign.

A safe and happy Christmas all.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 16, 2014, 02:57:22 pm
Do you really think that's good publicity ,he wasn't, even driving ,instead of them messing about would have been better looking for the girl that's missing .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 17, 2014, 02:13:16 pm
Do you really think that's good publicity ,he wasn't, even driving ,instead of them messing about would have been better looking for the girl that's missing .

I think from his quote he was stopped whilst driving and anyway,

I think any message that gives  warning about Drinking and Driving and the likely hood of a random breath test is an extremely valuable one.

Any message that comes from a visiting celebrity that says "safe,clean town" is an excellent endorsement of Llandudno.

Any image that shows the Police as approachable human beings does a lot for public confidence in them and is no bad thing. The police force are often maligned but are the first port of call when needed.

Anyway, thankfully the missing girl has been found safe and well it's a win win all the way.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 17, 2014, 02:59:45 pm
Hear hear Dave.... (or is it Here here?, I'm never quite sure about spellings in Punch and Judy politics)  :) :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 18, 2014, 12:45:11 pm
This is what llandudno is like right now

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/homeless-man-forced-spend-christmas-8306337 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/homeless-man-forced-spend-christmas-8306337)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 18, 2014, 01:58:51 pm
He looks very comfortable to me!  Some people actually enjoy such a Nomadic life.
But is there any special reason why he is homeless, is our magnificent Welfare State taking care of all the immigrants first, above our own countrymen?

Why not allow such as him to make use of MP's second homes during the Parliamentary recess!   :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on December 18, 2014, 02:02:59 pm
This is quite a difficult subject as reading the article it seems clear reading between the lines that he was given a great deal of support, but caused trouble and disturbance at the property he was placed. Helping someone is two ways and if they don't want to help themselves, despite a lot of help being given, then what can be done?

There was a programme about the homeless situation in Swansea on a couple of years ago and a similar situation occurred there as I remember and it was quite frustrating to someone abusing housing and help they were given in that kind of way.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2014, 02:05:42 pm
The Gentleman himself explains that he was indeed taken care of, by the Benefit System, and the Homeless Charities.

Sadly though he abused this help, more than once, and now he is where is is.

Born to Run,  are you planning to offer some tangible help to this guy, or are you merely content to post about him on the Internet?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 18, 2014, 02:09:37 pm
Why should it be down to me personally to help? As a state we need to protect our vulnerable and needy.
Do you want me to go out and catch the criminals the police fail to catch as well Fester?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2014, 02:14:56 pm
Why should it be down to me personally to help? As a state we need to protect our vulnerable and needy.
Do you want me to go out and catch the criminals the police fail to catch as well Fester?

If your feeling helpful, why not?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 18, 2014, 02:20:15 pm
I may well help, and I may well put on a batman costume and catch criminals. My point is I shouldn't HAVE to.
That is why we should have systems in place to help people like this.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 18, 2014, 02:25:18 pm
I may well help, and I may well put on a batman costume and catch criminals. My point is I shouldn't HAVE to.
That is why we should have systems in place to help people like this.

You don't have to, and you didn't have to bring him up for discussion either.

There are indeed systems in place for people like him, but he chose to abuse them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 18, 2014, 02:38:58 pm
I agree.  There are systems aplenty for this sort of case, and he was clearly the beneficiary of one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 18, 2014, 02:49:40 pm

There are indeed systems in place for people like him, but he chose to abuse them.

He did not choose to have a rough childhood, go to a care home that abused him, become an alcoholic or live in a cave.
But we as privileged and educated members of society do have a choice of whether or not we should help people like him. Clearly certain people on this forum have already made this choice. Hope you enjoy your new Sky plus box Fester $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 18, 2014, 04:08:15 pm
It is his own fault, he made himself homeless and then of his own free will chose to live in a cave! I hope he pays rent to the owner of the cave!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 18, 2014, 04:58:47 pm
There is no simple answer on this one is there? Yes he was given his opportunity and yes, by his own admission, he let the system down by abusing the rules. Does he deserve to get kicked out and in to the cold of winter as a result? Is this the only way of dealing with a situation like this?
I don't know enough to make a judgement.
I do know though that many people don't stand an even chance in life right from birth. They have hapless parents who do nothing to steer them in the right direction. Some are brought up not knowing the difference between right and wrong, even encouraged to break the law. For those unfortunate enough to end up in a care home from an early age one would have thought that "care" would indeed have been administered and that maybe, away from their natural parents, they might stand a better chance. Far from it it now seems. The carers in our midst seem to have often been predators on the disadvantaged.
It's a shameful reflection on our society but I still don't believe just throwing money at every situation is the answer either.
All recipients of benefits of any kind should have to earn them in one way or another.In this case the guy failed on exactly that score.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on December 18, 2014, 05:24:19 pm
Whatever the ins and outs he has been given another flat.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ray-burton-homeless-llandudno-man-8312057 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ray-burton-homeless-llandudno-man-8312057)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mr Tunnock on December 18, 2014, 05:27:55 pm
He told me that he was ex forces, no mention of that in the article, perhaps I was had after I gave him something outside Marks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 18, 2014, 06:19:42 pm
Interestingly the charity request that people don't give money to the homeless as they will spend it on drink and drugs and get themselves in more trouble.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2014, 12:52:50 am

There are indeed systems in place for people like him, but he chose to abuse them.

He did not choose to have a rough childhood, go to a care home that abused him, become an alcoholic or live in a cave.
But we as privileged and educated members of society do have a choice of whether or not we should help people like him. Clearly certain people on this forum have already made this choice. Hope you enjoy your new Sky plus box Fester $good$

Interesting to read that he has a radio in that cave.... he better not leave it unattended, or I'll have that off him as well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 19, 2014, 09:02:23 am
Is this the same guy that sits outside Sainsburys a lot? If so, I've seen him being abusive to passers-by in the past.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 09:11:58 am
Interestingly the charity request that people don't give money to the homeless as they will spend it on drink and drugs and get themselves in more trouble.

All I'm saying is.... If I lived in a cave I would not like to be sober.  Z**
Nothing against the charity though, I know them and they do wonderful work, BUT not giving them money because they will spend it on drink and drugs is stupid.
If they are going to spend it on drink and drugs there is no hope of their recovery at that time, you don't make people better by simply denying them of their habits they need to overcome their habits and be able to physically and mentally accept that they don't need drink and drugs anymore. Rehabilitation is the answer not prevention.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2014, 09:15:27 am
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Rehabilitation is the answer not prevention.

I agree. But until their behaviour becomes such that they're sectionable, they can't be forced to undertake it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on December 19, 2014, 09:43:48 am
I think it's nice that he has somewhere for Christmas, but I would be concerned in case this man creates some kind of precedent. I've seen several instances where charities like Hope Restored can sometimes create a 'problem' where one didn't exist before.

It's starts with one homeless or destitute person (maybe the classic local tramp), and a well-meaning person starts to believe there is an 'issue' with homelessness in the area, so they set-up a charity, then word gets about and more people with nowhere else to go arrive as they have heard they'll be 'cared for', and a problem creates itself almost out of no-where.

I can imagine that if word gets around in the homeless community that there is a charity in Llandudno, who'll look after them, that they'll get free accommodation and support, that the local paper will run stories about them and that even if they 'fall off the wagon' they'll still be helped, then we could see a formerly non-existent 'problem' escalate into something else.

For a small tourist town like Llandudno that would not be a good thing. Before anyone says it, it's not snobby or uncaring for me to say that, it's just being practical as we wouldn't have the resources to cope.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 19, 2014, 10:24:53 am
I quite regularly see small groups of men hanging around shelters on the prom passing the time of day with a few cans or bottles. There are probably more homeless and those living in sheltered accommodation in Llandudno and surrounds than we realise.
I still don't think feeding their addiction is a good idea either.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 10:33:56 am
 $good$ Good points people love being homeless, destitute and addicted to substances that control their lives and will sooner or later kill them. Yep and if charities start promoting this stuff in the local papers then Llandudno will be filled with thrill seekers all clambering to die in a bus shelter at Christmas.

There is a problem with homelessness, locally and nationally. You can either help fix it or ignore it, but please don't make out that by ignoring it you are actually doing something for the greater good!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on December 19, 2014, 10:54:46 am
I didn't say that people love being homeless or destitute or addicted to substances, so please don't infer that I did. We've all had problems and can relate to people and I am not that heartless.

Yes, there is a problem with homelessness nationally, but this is far less than the 80s for example and I don't remember there being groups of homeless individuals coming to Llandudno back then as they seem to now. I would say that the availability of support and what is seen to be offered in the town now is partly responsible for that.

This guy has been helped with accommodation and abused it (accommodation that many locals would themselves would dearly love to have). Now he has been given a second chance and I hope he sees how lucky he now is and grabs the opportunities that have now been given to him and makes something of his life for the good of himself and those around him. 

I appreciate his background might be difficult, but who knows? He says he's from South Wales, was at Bryn Estyn, was in the forces. Who knows what the truth is or what's a befuddled tale told by someone in need under the influence? One famous destitute person said she was the Grand Duchess Anastasia to anyone who would listen...

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2014, 11:03:31 am
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There is a problem with homelessness, locally and nationally. You can either help fix it or ignore it, but please don't make out that by ignoring it you are actually doing something for the greater good!

I don't really think anyone is doing that, BTR. But there are genuine concerns about what do with those who - in a way - can be seen as making themselves homeless.

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Good points people love being homeless, destitute and addicted to substances that control their lives and will sooner or later kill them.


That's an interesting conundrum. In fact, people do love constant use of the substances which might eventually hasten their demise. But the human mind is capable of compartmentalisation to an astonishing degree. Objective information about the possible side-effects of raw turps, for instance, is often regarded by a different part of the brain, so that use and effect are often separated.

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Yep and if charities start promoting this stuff in the local papers then Llandudno will be filled with thrill seekers all clambering to die in a bus shelter at Christmas.

If you read the original article about this chap, you'll see that he was provided with good accommodation which had to be removed from him for that very reason. Once he'd invited a 'few friends from the streets' to his flat they 'wouldn't leave (him) alone' so he was evicted. Greyhound makes a salient point: word spreads rapidly amongst street communities.

Some time ago Ch 4 ran a fascinating documentary about an Oxford graduate who was bi-polar. The effect of his condition was to make it impossible for him to hold down a job, organise any aspect of his life sufficiently and he ended up homeless and died comparatively young.  Extremely sad, yet with the swingeing cuts being made to all aspects of social care and Health services I would ask what more society can really do.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2014, 11:41:45 am
Not in My Back Yard....... that's all I'm saying.  :laugh:


Looks like I'm not going to get my hands on that radio after all.  :(

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 12:20:55 pm
Not in My Back Yard....... that's all I'm saying.  :laugh:


Looks like I'm not going to get my hands on that radio after all.  :(

Fester has just said exactly what greyhound said but completely honestly and without making up rubbish like 'If you help one of them, they will all flock here and cause a problem"
Greyhound's 'salient' point about word spreading doesn't solve anything, quite the opposite. It says lets keep our good deeds quiet so that we don't have to do too much of them. It's ridiculous.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on December 19, 2014, 12:26:45 pm
born2run, you seem intent on making up what I said and putting words in my mouth for your own effect and I cannot be bothered getting into an argument about it with you as you just seem to use people's words and twist them. I think that if you have to create arguments, it means you don't really have any points of argument yourself.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 12:32:24 pm
"I can imagine that if word gets around in the homeless community that there is a charity in Llandudno, who'll look after them, that they'll get free accommodation and support, that the local paper will run stories about them and that even if they 'fall off the wagon' they'll still be helped, then we could see a formerly non-existent 'problem' escalate into something else. "

Your words greyhound. Clear for everyone to see. You ARE saying, quite clearly that if some homeless people get help, they will all come here and cause problems.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2014, 12:36:52 pm
I have no problem with homeless people, and I am as charitable as the 'Next Man'.

Just as long as the 'Next Man' is called Ebenezer Scrooge.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2014, 01:24:42 pm
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You ARE saying, quite clearly that if some homeless people get help, they will all come here and cause problems.

No, he isn't.  B2R, you are wonderful at drawing inferences and presenting them as reality.  However, what he said was - as you point out - clear, so please read it again. "Then we could see" does not equate to "They will".

I'm also a little concerned that you're treading a fine line. Please don't describe peoples' contributions here as 'Rubbish', because that contravenes our Ts and Cs.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 01:49:57 pm
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You ARE saying, quite clearly that if some homeless people get help, they will all come here and cause problems.

No, he isn't.  B2R, you are wonderful at drawing inferences and presenting them as reality.  However, what he said was - as you point out - clear, so please read it again. "Then we could see" does not equate to "They will".

I'm also a little concerned that you're treading a fine line. Please don't describe peoples' contributions here as 'Rubbish', because that contravenes our Ts and Cs.

If you think I'm 'treading a fine line' ban me. Because I won't leave, unlike so many others with something to contribute who you and the formum clique have driven away.
I will politely decline your request that I don't call other people's 'contributions' rubbish. Because if I think something is rubbish I will say so.
equally if someone thinks that something I have said is rubbish then I expect them to say so as well, and indeed they have done on numerous occasions, want me to dig up those posts? I didn't see you wielding the axe then or warning those people at the time. What exactly are these Ts and Cs you speak of?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on December 19, 2014, 02:10:28 pm
born2run, I don't care about you challenging arguments, but I object to you inferring I said things that I didn't to bolster your own statements, such as this:

"Good points people love being homeless, destitute and addicted to substances that control their lives and will sooner or later kill them. Yep and if charities start promoting this stuff in the local papers then Llandudno will be filled with thrill seekers all clambering to die in a bus shelter at Christmas.

There is a problem with homelessness, locally and nationally. You can either help fix it or ignore it, but please don't make out that by ignoring it you are actually doing something for the greater good!"

I did not say people love being homeless and I didn't say the following:

"You ARE saying, quite clearly that if some homeless people get help, they will all come here and cause problems."

What I said was that word gets about and that problems, which previously were small or non-existent, can escalate due to that. The meaning is far different. You twist my words for your own ends and to that I object.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 02:21:59 pm

What I said was that word gets about and that problems, which previously were small or non-existent, can escalate due to that. The meaning is far different. You twist my words for your own ends and to that I object.

No I don't and I didn't, but  it's fair you feel aggrieved if you think I did. I merely projected the impact that your words had on me personally.
When I said "people love being homeless, destitute and addicted to substances that control their lives and will sooner or later kill them" I was referring to your comment of "a formerly non-existent 'problem'  I'm afraid whether you choose to see it or not it is a problem. It's certainly a problem for the poor man living in a cave, I'd like to put you in a cave for a week and see if you think it's a 'problem' or not then?

As for your second point. You are back tracking your whole statement and sentiment over the difference between the words "could" and "will". You said it, and that would imply that you think it is will happen or is likely to happen. Otherwise you wouldn't have said it would you? I'm telling you, whether it would happen or not, and I think it unlikely, that  the man should still be helped anyway.

That's my opinion and it's clearly different to yours. But I would have more respect for you if you stuck to your statements than try to weasel out of them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 19, 2014, 02:30:14 pm
Amazing how some pointless bloke leading such a pointless existence in a cave can cause such discussions!  ??? B2R why does it bother you so much, it never has me!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on December 19, 2014, 02:44:10 pm
born2run - you know what, as I read up to the last sentence of what you just wrote I thought: 'yeah, let's just agree to disagree', which I am more than happy to do - we all have differences of opinion. But then your last sentence was thus: 'But I would have more respect for you if you stuck to your statements than try to weasel out of them.' And you know what, I object to that and I feel pressed to say so. I don't try and 'weasel' out of anything and haven't made any personal attack on anything you've said or on you personally, but you have. Maybe that's the difference between us, and we'll never rectify that by going back and forth on here. So let's just leave it and go back to talking about 'What Llandudno's like right now' for the benefit of people who come on here to read and discuss exactly that. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 02:46:01 pm
That's a good question, and I don't mind at all that it doesn't bother you or Fester. I admire your honesty. What riles me is people who are equally not bothered but pretend and make up reasoning that it's for 'their own good' or for the greater good, and that's a politicians move!  It bothers me partly because I know people who have had addictions,mental health problems etc and they've all been fortunate enough to have a good family and friends around them, and they haven't had to end up living in a cave! they've been helped supported and got through it.
I think everyone should have that chance, I like everyone else here work and pay council tax etc I want to see some of that money out there helping those who are not fortunate enough to have friends and family that can help them, the many to protect the few. That is what I believe in.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 02:52:34 pm
born2run - you know what, as I read up to the last sentence of what you just wrote I thought: 'yeah, let's just agree to disagree', which I am more than happy to do - we all have differences of opinion. But then your last sentence was thus: 'But I would have more respect for you if you stuck to your statements than try to weasel out of them.' And you know what, I object to that and I feel pressed to say so. I don't try and 'weasel' out of anything and haven't made any personal attack on anything you've said or on you personally, but you have. Maybe that's the difference between us, and we'll never rectify that by going back and forth on here. So let's just leave it and go back to talking about 'What Llandudno's like right now' for the benefit of people who come on here to read and discuss exactly that.

I'm sorry you feel like that greyhound, I have enjoyed our discussion. I promise you it wasn't a personal attack on you in any way, I don't know you personally so it would be impossible for me to do that! Doesn't change that I still think you have back tracked from your original statement and intentions though and that's all I was saying, again only my opinion. I may be wrong to think that, never have claimed I'm always right, but it's just how I see it.

Anyway as for what Llandudno is like right now, it seems that this man now has a home for Christmas and this is great news! It seemed the local community responded to the article with warmth and generosity. Unlike the majority of this forum! It's a shame that this forum doesn't reflect the local feeling, and I think that is because, as I've already said many of those with any sort of varying opinion from the 'gang' have been driven away.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on December 19, 2014, 02:59:31 pm
Always an unnecessary sting in the tail...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 03:19:00 pm
Do you mean the bit about people being driven away?

I find it unnecessary that every time I express an opinion I'm jumped on by about 5 or 6 people. I think it's called 'pack mentality'
As I've said, look at the article comments on things like facebook, the vast majority of public opinion clearly sides with me. This forum does not represent local opinion, and there is a reason for that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 19, 2014, 03:26:51 pm
I have not seen it on Facebook? Which group is that with? Probably one that has the same views as you which is fair enough, whatever interests you I suppose. The subject would never arise on the Facebook pages I look at. Re this forum, I am unaware of being part of any pack here, I just have my own views, I'm not bothered who agrees or disagrees with me! How does one join this pack of which you speak? Any links to it?  WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 03:43:38 pm
https://www.facebook.com/dailypostwales?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/dailypostwales?fref=ts)

The daily post page itself - the second article after he was found a new place has 1,305 likes and 74 coments

the first has about him being homeless has just 80 likes - 43 comments though.

So there you go.  80 up to 1,305 likes. And the vast majority of comments echoing similar sentiment to me.

the two top (most liked) comments for example

"Richard James All those people that have a dig, remember one thing, your never more then 3 pay slips away, from being homeless , tomorrow it could be you !!!!!! I hope Ray has more luck in 2015
Like · Reply · 71 · Yesterday at 12:35

Stephanie Vaughan Brenda the angel at Hope restored at Gloddaeth church in Llandudno has now found Ray a flat he will be moving in on Saturday thank you to the wonderful people out there who care one never knows what tomorrow brings but for Ray he will be warm for Christmas

I'll say it again, this forum does not reflect local opinion, There is a reason for that, the admins should be trying to find out why, it's not my job.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 19, 2014, 04:25:27 pm
Quote,

"I'll say it again, this forum does not reflect local opinion, There is a reason for that, the admins should be trying to find out why, it's not my job."

Anyone is free to join and put their opinions up, I'm sure they would be welcome, the admins can't force anyone to join and post, that would be impossible!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 19, 2014, 04:51:43 pm
Born to Run.... how do you know that Forum members didn't do anything to help?
It's just possible that ''someone'' on here saw to it that this chap got housed for Christmas.

How do you know that I didn't pop down to that cave at 1.30 yesterday afternoon with a small food parcel, a £20 note and a couple of spare blankets.   (Ones I haven't needed for a couple of winters, so I won't miss them)
How do you know that my Mrs didn't get on to her friend at Social Services, and call in a favour for her to 'look again at his circumstances'
Some people do charitable acts without having to broadcast it on here, Facebook or wherever.

What have you done to help by the way?








I didn't do any of those things by the way, because I chose to ignore him......... but how do you know someone else on here didn't?   :laugh:



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2014, 04:57:42 pm
Fester breaking the record for contradicting himself in the quickest time possible! (next line)

"Some people do charitable acts without having to broadcast it on here, Facebook or wherever.

What have you done to help by the way?"  L0L

Answer: I don't want to broadcast it on here Fester!!! $good$

Thanks for sending me off home with a chuckle though!



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 19, 2014, 08:04:51 pm
Quote
I find it unnecessary that every time I express an opinion I'm jumped on by about 5 or 6 people. I think it's called 'pack mentality'

Well, that's one opinion. The other could possibly be that what you are saying is simply wrong.  I haven't got the time, nor the inclination, to go through your various posts and list the various ways in which you contradict yourself, make spurious accusations, implications and inferences, but trust me - there's a lot of them. And if you're accusing Greyhound of trying to 'weasel out' of his original posts, then I'd invite you to re-read all your posts in this topic alone.

From my perspective, I find something puzzling. You and I probably agree more than we disagree, but my issue is never with your sentiments, but about the ways in which you express them. It saddens me when folk can't discuss things dispassionately, from a disinterested perspective and have to resort to personal abuse. Your enthusiasm for and interest in the vulnerable and disadvantaged is admirable, but I think it sometimes blinds you to the validity of others' comments.

The Ts and Cs to which you agreed when you signed up are as follows:

"You agree, through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false,  inaccurate, abusive,  etc.,".

Have a pleasant family Xmas with the new arrival and come back ready to join in all the discussions with your usual ardour.


VV VV VV VV
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 21, 2014, 10:33:49 am
It was nice to see town rammed last night just like it used to be,we may never go back to those days again unless somebody invests in a nite spot,but hey ho,lifes a bitch
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 21, 2014, 01:43:08 pm
It was nice to see town rammed last night
They must have escaped from the Gt Orme !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 21, 2014, 03:02:58 pm
Goats or the Ormites
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 21, 2014, 06:30:24 pm
Anyone know what,s happened at the HSBC bank .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on December 21, 2014, 07:39:30 pm
One policeman stood guard on the smashed door as I drove past at 8:30 am this morning.  Driving past again at 9:45 two policemen being let into the bank by a bank employee. Door covered in blue and yellow tape. Didn't seem to be any massive reaction for employee or police.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on December 21, 2014, 08:21:53 pm
         I was talking to someone earlier today who usually knows about what goes on locally and they said that they heard a woman was attacked at some time last night in the area that is accessible to the public out of banking hours to access the ATM Cash machines.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on December 22, 2014, 11:35:43 am
Line I've had from police on HSBC incident:

 A 40 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of assault on a woman  in the vicinity of the HSBC bank , Gloddaeth St / Mostyn Street.  It was reported at 4.55am on Sunday 21 .

Tom
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 23, 2014, 11:19:57 pm
Can;t wait for next year,to see  Travelodge open,maybe Tudno castle start.Vollams another American themed restaurant ,maybe real xmas lights and a partridge in a pear tree .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 24, 2014, 08:59:23 am
Llandudno Superbowl to close on New Year's Eve with TK Maxx tipped to take the site

Dec 23, 2014 10:35
By Owen Hughes


Ten pin bowling centre has announced it will shut its Mostyn Champneys retail park site but clothes firm could bring 40 new jobs by the spring

A ten pin bowling centre is set to close at the end of the year in a move that should pave the way for clothes retailer TK Maxx to come to town.

The Llandudno Superbowl at Mostyn Champneys has announced on its Facebook page that New Year’s Eve will be its last ever night.

This was confirmed by staff at the facility.

The announcement comes six months after the Daily Post revealed that the park owners has applied to change the use of the bowling facility to retail.

In the application they said that branded fashion retailer TK Maxx was due to take up the site. According to landowner Mostyn Estates the new retail store would open in spring 2015.

Park owner Hercules Unit Trust (HUT) said the move would create 40 jobs and be the first stage in a number of developments aimed at enhancing the retail site’s “role and attraction”.

A spokesman said: “Crucially, the current TK Maxx proposal is considered an essential key element of an emerging strategy that is directed at ensuring Mostyn Champneys realises its full potential as a modern, attractive retail park that can continue to attract Llandudno new retailers that require comparatively large retail units.”

Llandudno cllr Ronnie Hughes said: “The closure of the Superbowl and last week’s announcement that Homebase would close on the retail park is terrible news for all the staff involved but the good news is that there are people wanting to come here.

“TK Maxx coming here would be good news for the town and I am already told that there is demand for the Homebase site.

“Retailers want to come here and this will be good for jobs in the coming months and hopefully those who are losing their jobs can take these new ones. But it is terrible for them to have this uncertainty, especially over Christmas.”

The move to turn the site into a clothing retail unit has upset nearby Parc Llandudno who say it will undermine their complex and Llandudno town centre.

TK Maxx got drawn into the debate saying that they had “quickly dismissed” the unit offered on vacant land at Parc Llandudno as there was no prominent frontage and it would be squeezed between two other units.

They said it was not a suitable alternative to the Mostyn Champneys site.

TK Maxx would not comment this week.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-superbowl-close-new-years-8335896 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-superbowl-close-new-years-8335896)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 24, 2014, 08:59:24 am
Flying pigs as well Wrex? :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 24, 2014, 09:52:12 am
So another lesiure place closes well don Mostyn est, so more high profile shops going on that site  what will that mean ,Oh yes more gridlock  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 24, 2014, 10:27:19 am
What happens to those motorists who are stuck in traffic and do not manage to vacate Mostyn Champneys within the time designated for free parking?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mr Tunnock on December 24, 2014, 11:41:28 am
What do you all suggest to sort it all out once and for all?
They can't reduce the amount of outlets there, a victim of it's own success perhaps?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 24, 2014, 11:49:44 am
No mr tunnock if  the planners thought the road layout better would not be a problem , it's not a new thing here since asda decided to dictate that part of town ,ever so simple (make the town one way ),  lots of different options been put forward but as usual ccbc don,t like other folks opinions fact .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 24, 2014, 01:41:38 pm
What do you all suggest to sort it all out once and for all?

Manually manage the traffic exiting Mostyn Champneys at known critical times.

.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mr Tunnock on December 24, 2014, 04:04:22 pm
I'd completely forgotten about Asda relocating.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 24, 2014, 06:19:59 pm
Well when asda first came into town on the old football ground it wasn't, too bad but when they moved over they took over the road plan
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Yorkie on December 25, 2014, 10:41:55 am
Well when asda first came into town on the old football ground it wasn't, too bad but when they moved over they took over the road plan

I think I have mentioned it before on the Forum; when ASDA made there presentation to the Town Council, and during the Public Consultation, I brought up the question of Trafffic management, and the ASDA "Consultant" produced a 400+ page document to show there would be no problems!   Can't see one would need 400 pages to say that!
Wrex was also a Councillor at the time so can probably also remember the event. ZXZ

Happy Christmas Everybody!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2014, 02:45:06 pm
Especially for Hollins.
Today's dip............the water temperature was minus 8. :-X............. At least he wore something....not like the one 2 years ago !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on December 26, 2014, 03:58:52 pm
Eeek! I hope you mean the camel is for me and not the lime green "outfit!"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2014, 05:57:58 pm
Just thought that I would give you a Christmas treat ! ;D Which ever you prefer.......................
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2014, 06:00:46 pm
Sea temperature of minus 8C?  I would have thought plus 8C!  ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 26, 2014, 06:45:46 pm
Sea temperature of minus 8C?  I would have thought plus 8C!  ???

The Master of Ceremonies said it was MINUS 8,  not sure if he was joking. (or guessing)
At the time, the air temperature was 6.5 degrees according to my car.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 26, 2014, 07:03:40 pm
From Surf Forcast.com


Today's Llandudno sea temperature is 9.2 °C.

Statistics for 26 Dec (1981–2005) – mean: 9.5 °C, range: 8.4 °C to 10.4 °C


I'm sure they say it to add to the drama! 😀
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2014, 08:40:45 pm
I have always had my doubts about this temperature thing. One year they said that it was minus 11 degrees !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZSbwGiz3lk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZSbwGiz3lk)
Not that I am thinking of testing it !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 27, 2014, 07:49:30 am
Sea water generally freezes at about -4, so -8 would mean an ice-locked Llandudno.  Would mean you could walk to Dublin though...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 27, 2014, 08:45:52 am
Interesting thought !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 28, 2014, 11:20:12 am
Another year draws to an end and i have too make a new years resolution,shall i stop moaning,might work,christmas lights will only improve if we had somebody interested besides me,Clarence should open,Tudno castle should start,flowers and grass will not improve,Broadway boulavard maybe sold,homebase will close,TKMAKK may open,Pier Pavillion will remain off -topic so how will i manage to stick to my resolution.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 28, 2014, 02:45:21 pm
Another year draws to an end and i have too make a new years resolution,shall i stop moaning,might work,christmas lights will only improve if we had somebody interested besides me,Clarence should open,Tudno castle should start,flowers and grass will not improve,Broadway boulavard maybe sold,homebase will close,TKMAKK may open,Pier Pavillion will remain off -topic so how will i manage to stick to my resolution.

If I were a betting man Wrex  I still wouldn't put any money on you sticking to that resolution for very long but keep up the good work in 2015 and add the Llandudno Youth Club to your list as Mostyn Estates won't be dipping into their coffers.      Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 07, 2015, 09:46:51 pm
IM very pleased to see the mayor has put Llandudno forward for the best beach award.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 07, 2015, 10:23:55 pm
 _))*  _))* does he thinks it's April the 1st ,I take it he,s not walked along there lately . It's a mess and getting worse , and as for that new slipway when will it be finished one wonders .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 08, 2015, 08:45:08 am
as for that new slipway when will it be finished one wonders .
It was covered in several feet of shingle again when I last walked past a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on January 08, 2015, 10:10:36 am
as for that new slipway when will it be finished one wonders .
It was covered in several feet of shingle again when I last walked past a couple of weeks ago.
            I cycled past it this morning and the sea has "re-profiled" (to use the contractor's terms) the beach to an unbroken line of shingle right along the beach, covering the new slipway, as Dave.R. says, in about a metre of shingle. I think the council are going to have to bite the bullet, (again!) and clear it at the beginning of the season, and then pray for good weather throughout the summer.
           I feel sorry for the Yacht Club members, who must have thought that this new slipway, with improved launching facilities, would help them secure new regattas etc. in the future.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 08, 2015, 01:20:45 pm
Man who lived in a cave barred from every pub in Llandudno

Jan 08, 2015 11:20
By Jez Hemming


A man who came to public attention for living in a Great Orme cave was barred from every pub in Llandudno and ordered to pay £145 in fines and costs after breaching his ASBO.

Ray Burton, 52, of Maelgwyn Road, Llandudno, was given a six month community order banning him from every Llandudno pub and warned his ASBO (anti-social behaviour order) prohibited begging by Llandudno Magistrates.

Burton had sworn and behaved offensively when asked to leave a local pub, although he said he had just wanted to use the toilet.

His solicitor, Nia Dawson, said Burton, who has recently been living in a Llandudno flat while local charity Hope Restored try to find him a permanent home, wished to apologise for swearing.

An alcoholic with 132 convictions (24 involving violence), he was in the news before Christmas after an article highlighted the prospect of him spending the festive period in a cave on the Great Orme.

At the time he said: “I hope 2015 will be a better year, I just hope I’ll get a flat as I am getting too old to be living on the streets.”

Offers of support flooded in and Burton was later offered a flat, but failed to make the appointment.

Brenda Fogg, founder of Hope Restored, said he was struggling because people were offering him alcohol after seeing his story in the press.

He said of the charity’s founder: “Brenda came to the rescue, she clothed me bought me another tent, sleeping bag and a little stove.”

Originally from Port Talbot has been on the streets for most of his life.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-who-lived-cave-barred-8404346 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-who-lived-cave-barred-8404346)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 08, 2015, 03:33:51 pm
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Stephanie Vaughan Brenda the angel at Hope restored at Gloddaeth church in Llandudno has now found Ray a flat he will be moving in on Saturday thank you to the wonderful people out there who care one never knows what tomorrow brings but for Ray he will be warm for Christmas

I'll say it again, this forum does not reflect local opinion

Wonder how local opinion is feeling now?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2015, 04:56:22 pm
Quote
Stephanie Vaughan Brenda the angel at Hope restored at Gloddaeth church in Llandudno has now found Ray a flat he will be moving in on Saturday thank you to the wonderful people out there who care one never knows what tomorrow brings but for Ray he will be warm for Christmas

I'll say it again, this forum does not reflect local opinion

Wonder how local opinion is feeling now?

Conned !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 08, 2015, 05:29:15 pm
I think Mr Fester was right all along.
The man should go back to where he came from after completing a rehabilitating stay at her Majesty's pleasure.
Plenty of old people around here struggling with finding enough money for food and heat that are more deserving of much needed help.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 08, 2015, 06:40:23 pm
Amazing how some pointless bloke leading such a pointless existence in a cave can cause such discussions!  ??? B2R why does it bother you so much, it never has me!

As I said at the time!   WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on January 08, 2015, 08:39:54 pm
It's hard to believe that temporarily housing someone in a flat in Maelgwyn Road hasn't resulted in said long term alcoholic/drug user sobering up overnight!  Or that anyone could be so naive as to believe that simply plonking someone in a flat is all that's required to put a seriously messed up individual back on the straight and narrow.  If Paul Gascoinge can't sort himself after all the spells he's had in rehab then you have to assume some people will never get themselves sorted but let's give this guy more than a couple of weeks before condemning him.  And if anyone wants to throw criticism around why not start on the morons who are buying him booze, no doubt for all the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 08, 2015, 11:01:49 pm
Fat Andy.... you want to give him a couple of weeks to see how he goes on?   Let's move him in next door to you then.
Or perhaps bed him down in Born To Run's place,  he was the original 'bleeding heart' who brought him to our attention in the first place.

Seriously guys, 130-odd convictions, 24 involving violence, I think he's had all the chances he deserves.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 09, 2015, 08:21:11 am
I think the main issue was the way in which the story appeared.  The NWWN was clearly casting about for the usual 'feel-good' article, just prior to Christmas, and this item - with its Christmas-associated sentiments of hard times, cave life, rejection and need - fell into their laps. Simply because of the way in which his plight was painted by the reporter offers of help and messages of sympathy flooded in, and he was miraculously offered another flat, just in time for the festive period.

But Mr Tunnock has a very valid point: is it right that because of the newspaper publicity a single person is provided with their needs, when many elderly folk are finding it nigh on impossible to get the operations they need? It's not an easy question, with even fewer easy answers, but the sad fact is that - as a society - we're failing the most vulnerable and have been for some time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on January 09, 2015, 09:57:48 am
Fat Andy.... you want to give him a couple of weeks to see how he goes on?   Let's move him in next door to you then.  Or perhaps bed him down in Born To Run's place,  he was the original 'bleeding heart' who brought him to our attention in the first place.

Seriously guys, 130-odd convictions, 24 involving violence, I think he's had all the chances he deserves.

He shouldn't be living next door to anybody, it's obvious that he needs more than just to be shoved into a flat and left to fend for himself.  I'm sure the ladies of Hope Restored are well meaning but I doubt they have the skills or experience to deal with this particular chap.  He either needs to be in a residential rehab or otherwise supported by more appropriate charity, which to me would be NACRO who run the Conwy Doorstop project -

"Nacro helps offenders to resettle into the community by providing support with housing-related issues such as managing their tenancies.

Conwy Doorstop is a floating support service that provides housing support to people with substance misuse problems and/or an offending history. We enable them to address their drug misuse issues and develop strategies to live safe, independent, crime-free, drug free lives
."

http://www.nacro.org.uk/services/wales/conwy-doorstop/ (http://www.nacro.org.uk/services/wales/conwy-doorstop/)

As Ghandi once said - "The True Measure of Any Society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members".  I think he'd find Llandudno's society to be somewhere towards the bottom of the scale.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 09, 2015, 02:11:12 pm
Time to bring these back!  WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 09, 2015, 02:30:44 pm
As Ghandi once said - "The True Measure of Any Society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members".  I think he'd find Llandudno's society to be somewhere towards the bottom of the scale.

Andy, that's great news, because I don't want HIM living next door to me either...... leaves his sandals everywhere.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 09, 2015, 02:34:48 pm
The bloke in question ( not Ghandi) was up and down Chapel Street this morning with one of his 'friends' looking at B&Bs to see if anyone had a vacancies sign on display.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on January 09, 2015, 04:40:31 pm
The bloke in question ( not Ghandi) was up and down Chapel Street this morning with one of his 'friends' looking at B&Bs to see if anyone had a vacancies sign on display.
Probably just looking to use the loo and see if they had a licence as they are banned from pubs. WWW
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Post by: Hugo on January 09, 2015, 05:02:06 pm
I was looking at the new Sailing Club Slipway the other day, and it is several feet lower than the areas of shingle that surround it on both sides. It isn't hard to see that the first storm of the Winter will bury it completely under tons of shingle and have to be removed at regular intervals thereafter, at considerable expense to the taxpayer.  :roll:
I see this issue is now on the front page of the Weekly News, with the Sailing Club complaining (rightly) that the new Slipway is already getting blocked with shingle. Perhaps the designers should have realised that there was a reason that the old slipway was carried high over the shingle before dropping down to sea level. As it stands, this means that the slipway will require regular shingle removal indefinitely to make it fit for use.

I had a look at it today and there's more Winter storms to come.  I wonder if the designer of the slipway had any knowledge of the area?
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Post by: Ian on January 09, 2015, 05:03:56 pm
Quote
I wonder if the designer of the slipway had any knowledge of the area?

Or training in anything to do with sea shores.  Or training, really, in anything...
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Post by: norman08 on January 09, 2015, 05:26:31 pm
The plans for that slipway were done way before the idiots planned to put them rocks there ,well a lot longer ,i may have just missed you Hugo got soaked this morning along there ,another thing I noticed today at the paddling poor part lots of sand has appeared and the stones that were piled along there have shifted ,with the storms to come these next few months I can see it being impossible to get down on the beach in the summer ,and the mayor is putting our beach up for an award , cuckoo  _))*
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Post by: Hugo on January 09, 2015, 06:47:11 pm
I was there about 4.00 pm  Norman and it was really rough on the Promenade.  I parked my car and sat in it for a while before going on the Prom and the car was rocking about in the wind but I didn't stay too long after I took the photos.
It was bad enough on the North Shore today so I dread to think what it was like on the West Shore, if you look at the lamp posts there they look like they have been "sandblasted" on one side, which is exactly what they have been.
The West Shore,  North Shore cobbles and Porth Eirias  doesn't give you much confidence in the decision making of our Councillors.   
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Post by: Hugo on January 10, 2015, 11:33:23 pm
It was the first time in a while since I have visited Mostyn Champneys retail park on a Saturday and I've never seen it as busy as it was today.  The traffic was really bad and cars were parked all along Charlotte Road making driving very difficult.  We were lucky to find a parking space in the park although it was some way off from the store we were visiting but others were not so lucky.
If it is normally as bad as this on a Saturday, it'll be a long time before I go back there again on a Saturday and just go there on weekdays instead.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 11, 2015, 04:47:27 am
Complaints are normally about getting out of Mostyn Champneys, Hugo, and not about getting in.

The imminent arrival of TK Maxx will certainly not ease the problem.
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Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2015, 10:29:19 am
Very rough seas at North Shore yesterday, I imagine a few more tons of shingle have been dumped on the slipway.
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Post by: Hugo on January 11, 2015, 10:58:48 am
Complaints are normally about getting out of Mostyn Champneys, Hugo, and not about getting in.

The imminent arrival of TK Maxx will certainly not ease the problem.

I had a problem getting in and out of there Bri,  I was visiting Curry's and when I wanted to get out I intended  to turn right to get out onto Mostyn Broadway but it was impossible to do so so I turned left and drove towards the Links.  That wasn't very good either but at least it was better.   I won't do that again in a hurry, no more Saturday shopping for me.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on January 11, 2015, 11:14:59 am
Fortunately, we live so close to Mostyn Champneys we can walk.

However, I have previously recommended on here, whenever it is busy with vehicles, it is much better to park in Staples car park and walk over to the stores.

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Post by: wrex on January 11, 2015, 11:22:26 am
CCBC will do nothing about Mostyn Champneys until the management get of their backsides and insisi but i think it might cost them.I think an e-mail to TKMakk might stir things up a bit,explain what chaoes they might encure.
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Post by: Gwynant on January 11, 2015, 12:51:58 pm
Very rough seas at North Shore yesterday, I imagine a few more tons of shingle have been dumped on the slipway.
             I cycled past it today Dave, and it looked like it had been cleared since I passed there earlier in the week but there was a scattering of stones on it again. However I went up to the West Shore from there and the sand in the vicinity of the Pumping Station by the Boat Pond has increased markedly during the past week, and is now up to the top of the seawall on the landward side.
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Post by: Hugo on January 11, 2015, 01:01:04 pm
Very rough seas at North Shore yesterday, I imagine a few more tons of shingle have been dumped on the slipway.
             I cycled past it today Dave, and it looked like it had been cleared since I passed there earlier in the week but there was a scattering of stones on it again. However I went up to the West Shore from there and the sand in the vicinity of the Pumping Station by the Boat Pond has increased markedly during the past week, and is now up to the top of the seawall on the landward side.

It looked like it had been cleared as I approached it Gwynant but when I got on the slipway there was that pile of pebbles about two foot high and then a bit lower down on the slipway it was clear. There isn't any point in clearing it while we have the Winter storms on and if there is a sailing regatta coming up then it could be cleared by the CCBC or even the sailing club.   As for the West Shore then it's time to give up and admit defeat on the cycle path and find an alternative route for the cyclists.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2015, 09:19:17 am
I agree that its time to admit defeat on the West Shore Cycle Path. Divert the route inland along the road through Deganwy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 15, 2015, 09:00:28 am
I see preparatory work has started on the new Lifeboat Station by the Paddling Pool at North Shore.
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Post by: wrex on January 18, 2015, 09:16:01 am
Lets all keep our ears to the ground because nothing seems to be going  right now,since the demise of Oscar people seem to have lost interest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 18, 2015, 01:55:31 pm
Wrex, the weather has been that horrible, that no one is going out to see if anything is going on.

We were getting ready to go out last night, then abandoned the attempt, realising that everywhere would be dead anyway.

I am back in hibernation.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 19, 2015, 07:57:00 pm
I saw some building materials outside the superbowl this evening so maybe something is happening in town afterall.
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Post by: Barney Baker on January 19, 2015, 09:16:30 pm
There was some workmen in the build on the corner on Conwy road and Vaughan Street ripping the fittings out tonight
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Post by: wrex on January 19, 2015, 09:26:59 pm
chariety shop Barney
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Post by: Nemesis on January 19, 2015, 09:34:58 pm
B H F Furniture shop as far as I heard.
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Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2015, 08:49:57 am
Yes, lots of British Heart Foundation posters in the window.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2015, 09:12:50 am
They have been advertising for stock in the press for ages, so should have plenty of goods to launch with.
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Post by: wrex on January 20, 2015, 04:30:16 pm
nice to see such quick action on the superbowl,we could have been left with another eyesore like the Tudno Castle,such a shame this project is dragging on and on and on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 21, 2015, 04:38:15 pm
My wife tells me she came across 2 big issue sellers and 2 beggars on Mostyn Street Llandudno earlier.
If Llandudno have people suffering what on earth do the cities have in these harsh economic times?
Bedroom tax and zero hour contracts or if your luck a 16 hour contract, what it's going to be like when my kids enter the job market I shudder to think, they have no silver spoon to fall back on.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 21, 2015, 04:50:50 pm
They have been attempting to sell Big Issues for years, probably have fixed pitches and arrive in taxis!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 21, 2015, 06:43:51 pm
My wife tells me she came across 2 big issue sellers and 2 beggars on Mostyn Street Llandudno earlier.
If Llandudno have people suffering what on earth do the cities have in these harsh economic times?
Bedroom tax and zero hour contracts or if your luck a 16 hour contract, what it's going to be like when my kids enter the job market I shudder to think, they have no silver spoon to fall back on.

She's lucky he only came across two, in the past we had many, many people in shop doorways, be they beggars, musicians or whatever else.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 23, 2015, 12:34:09 pm
Fat Andy.... you want to give him a couple of weeks to see how he goes on?   Let's move him in next door to you then.  Or perhaps bed him down in Born To Run's place,  he was the original 'bleeding heart' who brought him to our attention in the first place.

Seriously guys, 130-odd convictions, 24 involving violence, I think he's had all the chances he deserves.

He shouldn't be living next door to anybody, it's obvious that he needs more than just to be shoved into a flat and left to fend for himself.  I'm sure the ladies of Hope Restored are well meaning but I doubt they have the skills or experience to deal with this particular chap.  He either needs to be in a residential rehab or otherwise supported by more appropriate charity, which to me would be NACRO who run the Conwy Doorstop project -

"Nacro helps offenders to resettle into the community by providing support with housing-related issues such as managing their tenancies.

Conwy Doorstop is a floating support service that provides housing support to people with substance misuse problems and/or an offending history. We enable them to address their drug misuse issues and develop strategies to live safe, independent, crime-free, drug free lives
."

http://www.nacro.org.uk/services/wales/conwy-doorstop/ (http://www.nacro.org.uk/services/wales/conwy-doorstop/)

As Ghandi once said - "The True Measure of Any Society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members".  I think he'd find Llandudno's society to be somewhere towards the bottom of the scale.

Please don't judge Llandudno's society by what you see on this forum! As I've said before this forum doesn't reflect local opinion at all. The facebook comments on the story at the time were full of sympathy and understanding, where as everyone on this forum (apart from me) made Ebeneezer Scrooge look like a charity fundraiser!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 23, 2015, 12:39:16 pm
My wife tells me she came across 2 big issue sellers and 2 beggars on Mostyn Street Llandudno earlier.
If Llandudno have people suffering what on earth do the cities have in these harsh economic times?
Bedroom tax and zero hour contracts or if your luck a 16 hour contract, what it's going to be like when my kids enter the job market I shudder to think, they have no silver spoon to fall back on.

She's lucky he only came across two, in the past we had many, many people in shop doorways, be they beggars, musicians or whatever else.

Gosh that must have been so awful for you. I'm venturing out later on, let's pray I don't have to come across as many vagrants as you people have had to suffer.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 25, 2015, 08:58:18 pm
Took a walk out to Angel Bay, on the Little Orme today, and to my surprise there were at least a dozen seals frolicking about at the water's edge.  It was great to see.

I have to admit, I never knew that seals came here in the winter months, as I only ever see them bobbing about off Llandudno Pier in the warmer months.
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Post by: Jack on January 25, 2015, 10:50:31 pm
Think they 'pup' there at this time of year Fester.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2015, 11:04:39 pm
I think that it depends on the variety of seal Jack.    Grey Seals seem to have their pups about 10 days after the September equinox.
We used to go every year to North Stack Holyhead around the first week in October and watch the pups being born.  Normally there are several seals in that cove having their pups and it's well worth going there to experience the sight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 26, 2015, 09:02:50 am
A young seal was resting on the jetty near the pier on Saturday morning until some idiots decided to try and walk down the jetty to look at it. Pleased to see that it had come back later.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mr Tunnock on January 26, 2015, 09:13:23 am
Townies perhaps who are not used to seeing wildlife and therefore have no idea how to behave.
We saw a field full of sheep and their lambs yesterday, made us feel so happy, maybe a sign of spring.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 26, 2015, 11:54:45 am
celebrating a paedophile?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2926312/Was-Lewis-Carroll-repressed-paedophile-BBC-documentary-examines-relationship-children-uncovers-shocking-naked-photo-real-Alice-s-sister-taken-Alice-Wonderland-creator.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2926312/Was-Lewis-Carroll-repressed-paedophile-BBC-documentary-examines-relationship-children-uncovers-shocking-naked-photo-real-Alice-s-sister-taken-Alice-Wonderland-creator.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2015, 12:00:57 pm
Please don't judge Llandudno's society by what you see on this forum! As I've said before this forum doesn't reflect local opinion at all. The facebook comments on the story at the time were full of sympathy and understanding, where as everyone on this forum (apart from me) made Ebeneezer Scrooge look like a charity fundraiser!
Are you serious? What use are Facebook comments to that guy? I suspect the Facebook comments were more to do with people wanting to feel good about themselves at Christmas - how many of them did anything tangible to help the guy? At least forum members have the courage to post their honest opinion, rather than one that they think will get them the most Likes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2015, 12:02:59 pm
Took a walk out to Angel Bay, on the Little Orme today, and to my surprise there were at least a dozen seals frolicking about at the water's edge.  It was great to see.

I have to admit, I never knew that seals came here in the winter months, as I only ever see them bobbing about off Llandudno Pier in the warmer months.
You were there about 30 mins after we were! I've never seen so many seals down there. Will post a photo later.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2015, 03:45:24 pm
Took a walk out to Angel Bay, on the Little Orme today, and to my surprise there were at least a dozen seals frolicking about at the water's edge.  It was great to see.

I have to admit, I never knew that seals came here in the winter months, as I only ever see them bobbing about off Llandudno Pier in the warmer months.
You were there about 30 mins after we were! I've never seen so many seals down there. Will post a photo later.
There are 14 seals in this photo, although you may not think it! Some are very well camouflaged.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 26, 2015, 10:42:58 pm
I hope you got the approval of a seal!  ;D
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Post by: Ian on January 27, 2015, 06:46:58 am
I knew we ought to have a groan smiley...

 _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: wrex on January 30, 2015, 04:16:16 pm
Whoopeeee we will have a tory scot as major next.
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Post by: Nemesis on January 30, 2015, 08:09:44 pm
??? :roll:
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Post by: Nemesis on February 01, 2015, 08:38:01 am
celebrating a paedophile?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2926312/Was-Lewis-Carroll-repressed-paedophile-BBC-documentary-examines-relationship-children-uncovers-shocking-naked-photo-real-Alice-s-sister-taken-Alice-Wonderland-creator.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2926312/Was-Lewis-Carroll-repressed-paedophile-BBC-documentary-examines-relationship-children-uncovers-shocking-naked-photo-real-Alice-s-sister-taken-Alice-Wonderland-creator.html)

Anyone watch the programme on BBC2 last night? Food for thought.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mr Tunnock on February 01, 2015, 10:07:30 am
I didn't watch it but I've read a few comments elsewhere about it.

Has anybody bought the App for the Alice Trail?
If so, is it any good/worth having?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 01, 2015, 05:20:01 pm
The man is dead, long dead....... we'll have people coming out of the woodwork seeking compensation next.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on February 01, 2015, 08:28:55 pm
No mention of Llandudno , or did I fall asleep during that bit .
So what is the Llandudno connection ?

Good job the Sun, Mirror,Star or even other investigative papers did not operate in those days.
Why should Llandudno want to be associated with this ?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 01, 2015, 08:58:17 pm

In my humble opinion it is totally wrong to judge Mr Dodgson behaviour and actions from the mid-19th Century, by the behaviour and standards of the 21st. The man is dead can’t defend himself and large portions of what we know about him from his diaries have been heavily redacted by his Niece, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 02, 2015, 09:11:01 am
No mention of Llandudno , or did I fall asleep during that bit .
So what is the Llandudno connection ?

Good job the Sun, Mirror,Star or even other investigative papers did not operate in those days.
Why should Llandudno want to be associated with this ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7542721.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/7542721.stm)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 02, 2015, 12:25:38 pm
A person he wrote about, stayed here sometimes. Could it be a more tenuous link  :o
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Post by: Blongb on February 17, 2015, 04:51:46 pm
The Restore our beach campain reaches the next stage

https://www.facebook.com/restoreourbeach (https://www.facebook.com/restoreourbeach)

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=592402077571351&set=vb.411074092370818&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=592402077571351&set=vb.411074092370818&type=2&theater)

Please Like and Share this video with all your Friends and Family as it's extremely important for the Town that everyone who can go, does go to see the Exhibition/Consultation at No 1 Mostyn St (opposite Starbucks) from Saturday 21st till Friday 28th of this month. It will be staffed by members of the Coastal Forum and Restore Our Beach if you have any questions.
 Your Town, Your Beach, Your Voice...
 Thank you for your support.   $thanx$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 18, 2015, 11:51:27 am
Interest in Llandudno seems to have fallen asleep since the end of Oscar,nobody seems interested in anything going on,such a shame but thats life.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on February 20, 2015, 08:29:42 am
I noticed some activity at the former National Trust Offices in Trinity Square late yesterday afternoon.  Looked like people were sizing up and the "for sale/to let" board seems to have gone.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on February 21, 2015, 12:57:18 pm
        Very big tides today, the Pier Head looked very small in the bay. The sea was coming over/through at Deganwy where the repairs are currently being done, just as well that there was no appreciable wind or tide surge.
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Post by: Hugo on February 21, 2015, 01:10:54 pm
Very impressive photos Gwynant and thank goodness it is a relatively calm day or there could have been much bigger problems.
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Post by: hollins on February 21, 2015, 05:06:06 pm
Super photos Gwynant. The one of the Pier Head looks rather scary.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on February 22, 2015, 11:06:20 am
Yes.

Wonderful but worrying photos, Gwynant.

This is a concern:

"The biggest high tides in two decades could hit parts of the UK coastline later this morning.

The Environment Agency says the annual spring tides will reach the peak of an 18 and a half year cycle which, along with stormy weather, could cause coastal flooding in some areas.

The high tides are the result of the sun, moon and earth aligning in such a way that they combine to create a greater than normal force over the oceans."
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Post by: wrex on February 23, 2015, 07:32:59 am
Called at the restore our beach shop yesterday,well done to all the volunteers put their time into TRYING to bring CCBC to account.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 24, 2015, 09:34:07 pm
Trawling through commercial lettings for llandudno and nowhere do you come across the two units below the new Travelodge,i find this unbelieveable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on February 24, 2015, 10:50:57 pm
Trawling through commercial lettings for llandudno and nowhere do you come across the two units below the new Travelodge,i find this unbelieveable.



Maybe they're already let.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 25, 2015, 06:54:07 am
I think they would be advertising and working on them,they are going to be boarded up until let.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 25, 2015, 07:29:13 am
Wasn't it announced that Tesco Extra were opening up there?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on February 26, 2015, 06:04:53 pm
           I had a ride down the prom this afternoon and noticed the new build-up of shingle on the Sailing Club slipway after the recent high tides (See attached pics). It mentioned on the Daily Post Blog yesterday that the club might have lost the chance to stage some regattas this coming season due to the slipway not being handed over to the council yet because of "a couple of outstanding snags which normally occur with this type of work". What intrigued me was the appearance of a pole which has been embedded in the shingle in front of the new notice board to the right of the slipway, could it be for the man who is designated to keep the slipway clear to lean his shovel during his tea-break?
                                                                                                                 ?{}?       *cycle*            >?>??
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Post by: hollins on February 26, 2015, 06:43:03 pm
I read that article too Gwynant and was horrified at the contractors comment.
What will happen with the new lifeboat station?
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Post by: Gwynant on February 26, 2015, 07:18:16 pm
          Hollins, the new lifeboat which the RNLI has in mind for Llandudno is designed to be launched over sand and shingle banks and has been launched, recovered and tested successfully from the concrete apron and over the shingle on the Craig-y-Don site a couple of years ago. The new FCB2 (Fast Carriage Boat 2) "Shannon" class boat is made of fibreglass and is launched into the sea off an articulated launching carriage, not down a slipway as in Moelfre etc. so all the new building will be is a boathouse and not a launching ramp. 
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Post by: hollins on February 26, 2015, 07:28:24 pm
Thanks for explaining that for me Gwynant.
So would this launching carriage be able to get over the new beach rocks then?
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Post by: hollins on February 26, 2015, 07:42:03 pm
This article is in the current Lifeboat magazine.
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Post by: Gwynant on February 26, 2015, 09:17:57 pm
      The shingle down that end of the beach is "proper shingle" not imported quarry/building waste like the mid-shore area and the carriage had no problem whatsoever during repeated launching and recovery tests over the shingle banks down to the sand and back.
      The advantage of the new system is that the boat can be hauled back up onto the carriage and then turned around on a turntable system whilst on the carriage and therefore be ready for action again much quicker than the present arrangement.  The boat itself is also powered by a twin-engine jet-boat system and is consequently much faster and more manoeuvrable than a conventional vessel. It looked very impressive on it's trials.
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Post by: hollins on February 26, 2015, 09:25:34 pm
Thanks for taking the time to explain. It must have been very interesting watching the trials.
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Post by: norman08 on February 26, 2015, 11:52:07 pm
Gwynant I watched 2council guys digging the hole for that pole ,whatever you do don,t lean on it because it,s loose  _))* _))* ,even my dog was laughing .so according to the council they are going to re profile the beach again again and again ,until they move all them rocks that slipway will never be used , did you also notice all the rocks are back (kiddies corner )by the pier ,the ones they shifted to the little Orme .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 10, 2015, 04:44:13 pm
Can;t believe how quiet things are at the moment,there must be something going on,no rumours,no gossip,something has gone wrong.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 10, 2015, 06:55:24 pm
On 20th March starting 0830 there'll be a 93% solar eclipse which will be achieved at about 0930.
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Post by: wrex on March 15, 2015, 10:23:16 am
 :)Great news that Mostyn estates have managed too get the red Arrows for the air show
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 15, 2015, 10:25:15 am
I heard that the Snooze bar was planning to open end of feb,obviously it has not but maybe not long now.
 
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Post by: Nemesis on March 15, 2015, 02:15:40 pm
:)Great news that Mostyn estates have managed too get the red Arrows for the air show

That should be worth seeing again. Hope the weather is better than last year.
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Post by: wrex on March 16, 2015, 08:31:02 pm
All is quiet in our little town,not a thing going on,no gossip,no rumours,nothing,back to sleep.
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Post by: FatAndy on March 17, 2015, 08:33:16 am
All is quiet in our little town,not a thing going on,no gossip,no rumours,nothing,back to sleep.

Not a thing going on....other than a major international sporting (in the loosest possible terms) event featuring a host of very well known personalities that's being broadcast live on national television.

But judging by the crowd when I tuned in last night it would appear hardly anyone else in Llandudno is aware of this event either.  I'd say about 90% of the seats in the arena were empty. 
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Post by: Gwynant on March 17, 2015, 09:43:17 am
         A digger and a bulldozer are "reprofiling" the shingle around the Yacht Club slipway again this morning. The bulldozer appears to be pushing the build-up of shingle to the north of the slipway back down onto the beach and the digger seems to be digging down to locate the slipway! Also a new working area compound seems to be set up around the Bandstand area as well. The West Shore coastal workings by the Beach Cafe appear to be nearly finished now.
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Post by: Daihardwelshman on March 17, 2015, 10:11:57 am
I am one of those who did not know what was going on in town last night FatAndy...... what was it?? :o
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 17, 2015, 11:42:13 am
But judging by the crowd when I tuned in last night it would appear hardly anyone else in Llandudno is aware of this event either.  I'd say about 90% of the seats in the arena were empty.

I think there were a few more spectators than that.

Last night, The Full Monty was on at 7.30pm in the theatre just after the snooker had restarted at 7pm in the Arena.

At 7.10pm there wasn’t a parking space to be found anywhere within 200 yards of Venue Cymru.

For anybody going to either event this week in the evening, I suggest arriving early.
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Post by: cygnusx-1 on March 17, 2015, 06:17:39 pm
I paid £8.00 in November for my ticket to the snooker and the arena was 90/95% full......it all started around 7.00 and we left after 11.00 when the last match was finished on the 2 tables.

A full evening of high class endeavour for less than the cost of 3 pints!!
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Post by: wrex on March 18, 2015, 07:01:26 am
Well on friday evening Llandudno fc take on Denbigh town at Maesdu Park and a win will take Tudno into the Welsh premiership for the first time and they will be crowned CHAMPIONS so please make the effort to support the town and all for a fiver.
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Post by: Ian on March 18, 2015, 08:42:00 am
...and for entirely free, the 93% eclipse takes place tomorrow Friday, with totality at roughly 0930. It's unlikely, however, the cloud cover will allow us to see it, but it will get noticeably darker.
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Post by: SDQ on March 18, 2015, 08:50:06 am
...and for entirely free, the 93% eclipse takes place tomorrow with totality at roughly 0930. It's unlikely, however, the cloud cover will allow us to see it, but it will get noticeably darker.


I thought it was on Friday?
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Post by: Ian on March 18, 2015, 09:00:32 am
Oops!  Yes - Friday is it.  For a moment, there, I was thinking this was Thursday... Duh!
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Post by: wrex on March 18, 2015, 08:42:36 pm
So come on,who is going down to Maesdu Park friday nite to support Llandudno,i hope a few of you who have never been make the effort as this is Llandudno;s biggest game ever and we need a big crowd to help the town into the Premier league,come on Tudno.
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Post by: Fester on March 18, 2015, 09:27:27 pm
So come on,who is going down to Maesdu Park friday nite to support Llandudno,i hope a few of you who have never been make the effort as this is Llandudno;s biggest game ever and we need a big crowd to help the town into the Premier league,come on Tudno.

Me!   $walesflag$
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Post by: wrex on March 18, 2015, 09:57:57 pm
nice one Fester,i will buy you a pint if i find you in the crowd
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Post by: Fester on March 18, 2015, 10:38:09 pm
nice one Fester,i will buy you a pint if i find you in the crowd

To be fair, I used to go every time they played on Saturdays, that was before I had to work on Saturdays.
Now, I just got to the odd floodlit match.
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Post by: born2run on March 19, 2015, 08:50:03 am
Well I've never seen you there Fester, but will be nice to have a catch up on Friday  $walesflag$
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Post by: wrex on March 19, 2015, 09:13:12 pm
I must count how many town and county councillors turn up tomorrow night to support their town football club in their biggest game in history.I will let you know who bothers.
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Post by: Ian on March 20, 2015, 08:05:44 am
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I must count how many town and county councillors turn up tomorrow night to support their town football club in their biggest game in history.I will let you know who bothers.

Some might not enjoy football, Wrex.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 20, 2015, 08:45:32 am
Great view of the  solar eclipse at the moment,  we are looking through a welding mask!  8)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on March 20, 2015, 08:54:46 am
Just heard a couple of interesting comments on the TV.

One reporter referred to the moon’s shadow crossing the sun and the other was a reporter on an island off the coast of Scotland introducing a lady who was an archaeologist.


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Post by: hollins on March 20, 2015, 09:53:13 am
I hope you have had clear skies by the sea. We have been peering through clouds up here.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 20, 2015, 12:48:47 pm
We had some cloud come over towards the end of the eclipse which helped me take this image.
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Post by: born2run on March 20, 2015, 01:34:25 pm
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I must count how many town and county councillors turn up tomorrow night to support their town football club in their biggest game in history.I will let you know who bothers.

Some might not enjoy football, Wrex.

I doubt Price Philip is a fan of Joe Pasquale but he still turns up at the Royal Variety Performance.
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Post by: Ian on March 20, 2015, 01:37:41 pm
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I doubt Price Philip is a fan of Joe Pasquale but he still turns up at the Royal Variety Performance.

Well, I suppose they could also go if it were just once a year.  Think Philip would turn up ever week?
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Post by: norman08 on March 20, 2015, 02:24:37 pm
My wife went to the mobile diabetic eye screening parked on the Mostyn Broadway coach park (not a coach in site ) ,she parked by the hydro ,I met Her said why didn,t you park next to the van ,not allowed ,the van was parked by crest ,the girls told her as the toilets on the coach park were closed they had to use the doctors toilets ,can our stupid council get any better .
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Post by: wrex on March 20, 2015, 02:36:33 pm
SORRY IAN BUT THIS IS A BIG GAME AND AS REPRSENTATIVES OF LLANDUDNO THEY SHOULD SHOW THEIR SUPPORT WETHER IT BE NETBALL OR RUGBY OR FOOTIE
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Post by: Ian on March 20, 2015, 02:51:20 pm
I went onto the website for the team, Wrex, and I couldn't see some information.  Just curious, but how many of the team were born and bred in Llandudno?
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Post by: Mikethewatch on March 20, 2015, 04:30:45 pm
I went onto the website for the team, Wrex, and I couldn't see some information.  Just curious, but how many of the team were born and bred in Llandudno?

I ofter wonder the same thing about most of the big rich football companies-sorry teams !
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Post by: born2run on March 20, 2015, 04:38:54 pm
Quite a lot of the team - about 70-80% I'd hazard.

May be less next year. ££$
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Post by: Nemesis on March 24, 2015, 09:36:37 am
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/trips-breaks/watch-first-look-inside-llandudnos-8905758 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/trips-breaks/watch-first-look-inside-llandudnos-8905758)

Our first look inside the new Travelodge.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 24, 2015, 10:43:53 am
That is a tiny room!
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Post by: Nemesis on March 24, 2015, 11:37:47 am
I'd love to hear what the WTB have to say about a double bed so near a wall. They tend to go mad at the idea !
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 24, 2015, 12:01:13 pm
That room is more like a cupboard really!  &shake&
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Post by: TheMedz on March 24, 2015, 02:21:51 pm
The gaps in the headboard suggest that the mattress in the final shot might not be in its final resting position. At least I hope not!
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Post by: wrex on March 24, 2015, 05:51:45 pm
im only interested in what is going in the two empty units
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Post by: Blongb on March 24, 2015, 07:07:50 pm
I'd love to hear what the WTB have to say about a double bed so near a wall. They tend to go mad at the idea !

Travelodge won't give a damn about what the Wales Tourist Board think, as they won't be asked to grade the Clarence. Travelodge is much too big to give a corporate fig about any grading organisation. They let the price do the talking.

We dismissed the WTB as a useless irrelevance when they sold us out and got rid of our quality based assessment grading scheme (which cost us thousands of pounds to implement) and reverted us back to a facilities based grading system which favoured the larger hotels. Now they are just another overpriced useless and totally irrelevant Government Quango. $angry2$
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Post by: Nemesis on March 24, 2015, 08:08:56 pm
You sound to have the same opinion of the WTB as we had ! There is now only one establishment left in our road who are still members. As you say they change their minds with impunity. You implement their ideas from one visit and by the time the next one comes round they have a new set of rules. We actually physically removed one inspector years ago he was so rude. ! &shake&
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 24, 2015, 09:16:50 pm
We did a b&b for a while a few years ago and went with WTB or Visit Wales? What a lot of pointless twaddle it was too, we soon left it and their nonsense! Mind you I also hated having a b&b, I am too much of a Victor Meldrew! 
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Post by: Fester on March 25, 2015, 12:32:53 am
We did a b&b for a while a few years ago and went with WTB or Visit Wales? What a lot of pointless twaddle it was too, we soon left it and their nonsense! Mind you I also hated having a b&b, I am too much of a Victor Meldrew!

I don't know why mate, because there has always been the warmest of welcomes when I have had the pleasure to visit your home.   Hope you are both very well by the way, and I hope you noticed the enhanced divi from GVC!!     _))++ $drink$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 25, 2015, 07:08:23 am
Very kind of you to say so Fester, the b&b idea was er indoors dream and I went along with it, I never liked it though as I like my own space too much! Then we had some French people stay who were a nightmare! We found that the best guests were Germans. To be fair most guests were fine, but it was  not for us really! I have to admire those people that do run hotels etc, it is not easy!  Yes I did see the wonderful enhanced dividend from the excellent GVC  $good$
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Post by: Dave on March 28, 2015, 10:59:19 pm
With 2000 people at the Max Boyce concert and 2500 next door to see Simple Minds finding parking was no easy feat ! Just demonstrates that put the right acts on and you'll sell tickets. No reason that it couldn't happen more often if the shows were right.
Max Boyce, with special guest Stan boardman who answered a very late call as a replacement act, was an excellent night out.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 29, 2015, 08:57:45 am
Bod Hyfryd Road had reopened this morning.

A fall pipe from the newly finished Travelodge had blown off in last night's winds.
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Post by: wrex on March 29, 2015, 11:54:14 am
  D)Right now Llandudno has a team in the Welsh premier league for the first time,congratulations to everybody who has worked so hard and have now put Llandudno on the footballing map.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 01, 2015, 07:55:55 am
I see that these concrete rocks are going to be placed on Llandudno's North Shore, if they work well then they will also be used on the West Shore to stop the sand problem.
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Post by: Hugo on April 01, 2015, 08:19:24 am
That's very interesting ME, it's what they used in Llanddulas when they built the A55.   each Dolas has a consecutive number there.     It's a pity they didn't use them on the West Shore instead of importing the sand

Dolosse are normally made from un-reinforced concrete, poured into a steel mould. The concrete will sometimes be mixed with small steel fibers, to strengthen it in the absence of reinforcing. Construction is done as close as possible to the site of installation because the dolosse are very heavy.[citation needed]They work by dissipating, rather than blocking, the energy of waves. Their design deflects most wave action energy to the side, making them more difficult to dislodge than objects of a similar weight presenting a flat surface. Though they are placed into position on top of each other by cranes, over time they tend to get further entangled as the waves shift them. Their design ensures that they form an interlocking but porous wall. However, they are not indestructible. Under extreme storm conditions they will hammer one another and be pounded into rubble
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 01, 2015, 08:30:02 am
I'm looking forward to seeing them in place, I believe that they will be produced on the site of the old Pier Pavilion, seems like a good use for that location!
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Post by: FatAndy on April 01, 2015, 08:51:37 am
Conwy CBC have announced that in order to combat the problem of sand at West Shore they'll be removing all the sand from the beach and covering it with wooden parquet flooring tiles instead.  They'll be sourcing the flooring tiles from the Homebase closing down sale.
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Post by: Hugo on April 01, 2015, 09:45:51 am
ME       I'd forgotten what date it was!        :-[

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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 01, 2015, 10:10:19 am
Hugo, great information that you found on them! 😃
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Post by: Ian on April 01, 2015, 10:36:07 am
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ME       I'd forgotten what date it was!        :-[

Yes and he beat me to it...  :rage: :rage: :rage:
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 01, 2015, 11:00:05 am
 {}{} $donald$ $3towns$
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Post by: DaveR on April 05, 2015, 08:17:42 pm
The thickest fog for a long time is currently enveloping Llandudno.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 05, 2015, 08:22:29 pm
Is it fog or is it mist?

What is the difference?
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Post by: Hugo on April 05, 2015, 09:11:24 pm
I took this photo from my lounge window earlier this evening and it's looking in the direction of Llandudno and the Little Orme is peeping through the mist on the right of the photo,  I'm not sure what the other hills are.
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Post by: DaveR on April 05, 2015, 09:11:47 pm
Is it fog or is it mist?

What is the difference?
It all depends on the density, I believe.
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Post by: hollins on April 05, 2015, 09:19:31 pm
I took this photo from my lounge window earlier this evening and it's looking in the direction of Llandudno and the Little Orme is peeping through the mist on the right of the photo,  I'm not sure what the other hills are.

Hugo, that is a fantastic photo. I was wondering how far the mist /fog had spread upwards because up here in the hills it has been the most gorgeous warm and sunny day with bright blue skies!
My poor friends have been so unlucky.
They saved going to Llandudno until today and were planning on going up the Orme. Instead they walked along the pier and tell me they couldn't see the prom from there.
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Post by: Gwynant on April 05, 2015, 09:37:17 pm
                Brilliant photo Hugo. If that is the Little Orme on the right I reckon that must be Bryn Eurin in the foreground and Nant-y-Gamar just visible through the trees on the left. On the BBC app. forecast they are forecasting mist, (poor visibility) and fog, (very poor visibility) at various times overnight through to 0900 tomorrow morning.
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Post by: Hugo on April 05, 2015, 10:18:25 pm
I'll be able to recognise the other hills tomorrow if the mist has gone.   It seems that the mist hovered between the 200 to 300  feet mark judging from the hills that were visible in the photo.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 06, 2015, 08:40:17 am
Love the photo Hugo, the mist/fog kept coming and going here yesterday, one minute we could see the Orme, next it had gone. At one point the cable car seemed to be floating in nothing.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 06, 2015, 09:21:15 am
That is an amazing photograph, Hugo.

Thank you for sharing it.
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Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2015, 10:02:40 am
Fog is still persisting strongly this morning, unusual to see it lasting so long.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 06, 2015, 12:48:41 pm
Fog lifting up the Orme but still hanging heavily over the Town Centre.
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Post by: TheMedz on April 06, 2015, 01:01:31 pm
Sorry.
There was meant to be a photo attached to that but it seems I'm having trouble uploading it.
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Post by: Hugo on April 06, 2015, 01:19:37 pm
The mist has lifted now from Rhos on Sea so I can make out the hills in the photo and they are  right to left, the Little Orme,  Bryn Euryn in the foreground and Penrhynside behind the tree.  I hope that we get another nice sunset tonight.
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Post by: white rabbit on April 06, 2015, 08:18:47 pm
Lovely photos Hugo  :)
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Post by: DaveR on April 06, 2015, 09:47:34 pm
On a different topic, I've noticed many drivers lately driving straight across the pedestrian crossings along the prom, whilst there were people waiting to cross. The driver often seems blissfully unaware that there is even a crossing there, which makes you wonder as to their suitability to be still driving!
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Post by: Mikethewatch on April 06, 2015, 11:42:24 pm
Taken FROM  THE HIGHWAY CODE
Rule 19 CLEARLY states:
Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped.
Remember - traffic does not have to stop

The ONLY time a pedestrian has right of way is when they are actually ON the crossing
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 07, 2015, 07:25:30 am
It is a regular occurrence to see pedestrians dithering about around the crossings and as a driver you have to think are they going to cross or not? I always approach the crossings with caution, but some pedestrians need  to clearly show if they intend to cross or not.
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Post by: Ian on April 07, 2015, 07:33:30 am
The crossings on the prom are also situated quite poorly for drivers. Having a crossing on the cusp of the turn from a side street is potentially dangerous for both driver and pedestrian.
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Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2015, 09:13:45 am
Rule 195 of Highway Code:

Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing

look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross
you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing
allow more time for stopping on wet or icy roads
do not wave or use your horn to invite pedestrians across; this could be dangerous if another vehicle is approaching
be aware of pedestrians approaching from the side of the crossing.

This is what the motorists I've seen aren't doing. As I said, they seem unaware even of the existence of the crossing as they do not slow down or even look to check if anyone is waiting to cross.
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Post by: Hugo on April 07, 2015, 03:13:15 pm
The mist has gone and it was a beautiful warm sunny day in Llandudno today.
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Post by: DaveR on April 07, 2015, 05:21:16 pm
The mist has gone and it was a beautiful warm sunny day in Llandudno today.
It was certainly a beautiful day, we went for a walk around the top of the Great Orme. Fantastic views and a refreshing coffee at the R&BT on the way round.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 07, 2015, 08:02:48 pm
Had a ride to the hospital in Bangor and back, on the bus, this afternoon. Hectic, but the scenery was fantastic.
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Post by: DaveR on April 08, 2015, 11:15:27 am
I've been pleased to see, over the past few weeks, that CCBC have been rejuvenating the garden areas along the Prom, with replanting of certain parts and expansion of the shrubbery areas. Some parts, particularly the stretch from the Imperial Hotel to the Washington have been looking very tired for a while. Whilst there's more that needs to be done, it's a good start, so well done to CCBC.  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on April 09, 2015, 05:40:02 pm
A perfect day in Llandudno today...
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Post by: Fester on April 09, 2015, 07:05:53 pm
How dare CCBC employ those scruffy, intimidating litter enforcement types... to extort money from tourists when they allow the streets of Llandudno to get into a state like they do?

Can I not fine CCBC  for allowing litter from recycling boxes and bins to be left strewn all over the Gt Orme?

This was the scene on Happy Valley Road a couple of days ago, and it gets like this day after day.
The following morning the bin was empty, but the gutters were left full of litter and broken glass, which is still there!
The bin was then full to over flowing again within hours, with yet more debris on the road.
It is a disgusting sight for visitors, and the standard of cleaning gets worse, as my council tax bill gets ever higher!


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Post by: Nemesis on April 09, 2015, 07:52:41 pm
Only yesterday I tried to comfort an old lady on a walking frame at the land end of the pier, who was on a coach trip from South Wales and had just been slapped with a £75 fine for dropping a tab end. I wouldn't have cared, but the volume of litter around where she dropped it was quite large. The poor old soul could hardly stagger and she said that she had accidently dropped it on her way to the bin. The two men concerned had black bomber jackets and suddenly unzipped to reveal a camera and a badge. Wouldn't a warning have been in order in this , the first instance?
Bet she doesn't come back to Llandudno !
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 09, 2015, 08:00:29 pm
Those wardens are just bullies, instead of extorting money from visitors they should be employed to pick up litter instead!
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Post by: norman08 on April 09, 2015, 08:53:53 pm
Them guys make me sick ,what annoys me they fine the person and the fag end is left on the floor , last summer a visitor went back and picked the fag end up and then they slapped her with a ticket ,shame they don,t go to the prom shelters and get the druggies/allkies who leave the cans/bottles ,etc  and even urinate there .
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Post by: Fester on April 09, 2015, 09:26:08 pm
Thanks to all those who have commented.
Some very wise words there.

These operatives must be STOPPED, and QUICKLY.
They are entirely the wrong image for the town, they are scruffy, intimidating and unprofessional looking.
They are also BANNED from Pier premises this year, as they damaged the image and upset customers.

Who are these characters to approach vulnerable people in this way?
I saw them standing over a young girl with a pushchair and another toddler.... in a very intimidating manner... as she fumbled in her purse to pay them £75 for some indiscretion.
Has anyone checked their back ground?
Are we sure that they have no previous convictions?   ... and that they are fit to handle vulnerable members of the public?

I would like Tom Davidson (or one of his colleagues) to investigate and expose all this, as we are doing nothing but alienating visitors at the moment.
Yet the town is STILL full of litter,  mostly due to the poor management of CCBC.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 09, 2015, 11:11:58 pm
I wonder if they pick on big bikers? Unlikely somehow! I would just tell them where to go!  WWW
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Post by: Ian on April 10, 2015, 07:34:40 am
Just a quick aside: for those who may be worried slightly about the air pollution being talked about at the moment it's worth noting that our levels were markedly higher yesterday than they'll be today. Today, in fact, our levels are the lowest in the UK (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/air-pollution-forecast-april-2015), proving once again that Llandudno is a very healthy place to live :-))
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 10, 2015, 07:49:43 am
Good news! The climate here is one of the reasons that we moved here!  D)
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Post by: DaveR on April 10, 2015, 11:37:34 am
I agree that the Litter Wardens have taken completely the wrong approach in a tourist town.

In Llandudno, we have Litter Wardens on the Prom. When I visited Amalfi in Italy, I noticed that they had a team of people stationed on the Prom whose job was to answer any queries that visitors had. That's the right approach to take, make visitors feel welcome and their custom appreciated.
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Post by: born2run on April 10, 2015, 12:38:39 pm
Thanks to all those who have commented.
Some very wise words there.

These operatives must be STOPPED, and QUICKLY.
They are entirely the wrong image for the town, they are scruffy, intimidating and unprofessional looking.
They are also BANNED from Pier premises this year, as they damaged the image and upset customers.

Who are these characters to approach vulnerable people in this way?
I saw them standing over a young girl with a pushchair and another toddler.... in a very intimidating manner... as she fumbled in her purse to pay them £75 for some indiscretion.
Has anyone checked their back ground?
Are we sure that they have no previous convictions?   ... and that they are fit to handle vulnerable members of the public?

I would like Tom Davidson (or one of his colleagues) to investigate and expose all this, as we are doing nothing but alienating visitors at the moment.
Yet the town is STILL full of litter,  mostly due to the poor management of CCBC.

This is like groundhog day, we've had all this discussion before. Ian told me off because I called them gangsters.

I still stand by that, this is an extortion racket if ever I have seen one.
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Post by: pebbles on April 10, 2015, 02:03:46 pm
I agree that the Litter Wardens have taken completely the wrong approach in a tourist town.

In Llandudno, we have Litter Wardens on the Prom. When I visited Amalfi in Italy, I noticed that they had a team of people stationed on the Prom whose job was to answer any queries that visitors had. That's the right approach to take, make visitors feel welcome and their custom appreciated.


I had a day in LL yesterday, and was stood just off the prom for 5 minutes (opposite where the 92 tribute stone is, where the old slipway was) while my other half was debating whether his stomach needed chips or not hehe..  but anyway behind me stood in black shiny bomber jackets looking totally out of place and intimidating, stood facing the prom, arms folded behind their backs, were 2 tough looking blokes... i wondered who the hell they were - they honestly made me feel like they were going to mug me as we were delving in our backpack trying to find my bfs wallet! They weren't looking at me, too busy staring at strangers on the prom..

I guess now i know who they were!

If LL is to have litter wardens shouldn't they be dressed in clearly identifying clothing, and be a deterant instead of just a money making pair of bullies. I hate litter droppers, never ever ever do it, but these bullies from what i've read you guys say on here before charge at easy targets and even if someone accidently has something fall from their pocket and goes to pick it up they still charge you!
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Post by: Michael on April 10, 2015, 08:33:40 pm
 Any way I would have thought they were in the wrong place in any case.
  If they would care to visit the medium length walking distances from home to Mostyn Street they would have plenty of examples of litter dropping. Mind you, I doubt whether they would get any "takings"because the vast bulk are teenagers and school kids who wouldn't have two bob in their pockets. Or certainly that is what they would say, even if they did have a fiver.
   Tyn y Coed estate is an example I see every day. Youth leaves house and starts to unwrap food and eat on the hoof. Wrappings go on floor. Many hours later youth returns clutching takeaway food. Finishes it shortly before he /she gets home, wrappings on the floor.
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Post by: Gwynant on April 11, 2015, 10:15:32 am
              What a difference a day makes! From walking about in shirtsleeves in the mountains on Thursday to going down for the paper this morning in a coat and seeing a fresh snowfall on Foel fras and above.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 11, 2015, 10:45:29 am
The latest 'dirty trend' seems to be nappies.

People return to car, lay child on seat, remove nappy, chuck under car along with wipes or what ever else. Place clean nappy on child, then drive away! Overnight rain wets nappy through and it blows up and bursts. Result :- nasty smelly mess in road.
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Post by: Hugo on April 11, 2015, 11:28:29 am
              What a difference a day makes! From walking about in shirtsleeves in the mountains on Thursday to going down for the paper this morning in a coat and seeing a fresh snowfall on Foel fras and above.

Your right Gwynant it's so odd the weather.  We were in short sleeves too in Cwmorthin and we had a chat with the builders there and they told us that just two weeks ago they were working in the snow in the Cwm
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Post by: DVT on April 11, 2015, 01:05:54 pm
Mrs DVT and I were in Mostyn Street yesterday afternoon and saw two pairs of the Environmental Enforcement brigade (why does only one have that on his back, the other's jacket is blank).  First time I'd seen them.

One pair stopped a guy who had a cigarette in his hand, so I guess they'd seen him drop ash.  As we walked part I heard them ask for his name, as they wrote out a ticket.  My wife asked me what were they doing - I replied in loud voice so that they heard me "they're doing their best to stop tourists coming back".  I did get an angry look from one of them.

Who do they actually work for?  Who actually gets the money?

My son, who was out of work not long back, says that Job Centre offered him a possible job as one of these guys (he has a security badge for night clubs) but he turned it down flat, stating he would never do such a job.

As suggested earlier, why not employ people as tourist guides?  I am often asked such questions, how to get to somewhere or what is going on - I guess I must look like a helpful sort of chap, or have Ordnance Survey written on my forehead!
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Post by: Meleri on April 11, 2015, 05:39:19 pm
The 'dirty trend' you mention Nemesis seems to have spread to The Sychnant Pass, along with larger cans & KFC containers. Perhaps the E E brigade need to cast their nets wider.
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Post by: Nemesis on April 11, 2015, 08:52:05 pm
It seems to be everywhere Meleri, are people too idle to wrap up such things and take them home, or use the nearest bin?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 11, 2015, 09:05:52 pm
Sadly it seems many are, yet the litter wardens will not catch them, too busy going after the wrong people!  &shake&
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Post by: Ian on April 12, 2015, 07:47:18 am
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It seems to be everywhere Meleri, are people too idle to wrap up such things and take them home, or use the nearest bin?

I sometimes wonder how much is down to strong winds and the rather slapdash / poorly weather-proofed approach the recycling trucks employ.  Certainly during the last storms we spotted the contents of a neighbour's recycling box making their way down the road about half a mile from their house.
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Post by: Dave on April 12, 2015, 03:40:36 pm
I was in the  RSPB estuary car park the other day and as is often the case, a car had driven off leaving the KFC rubbish behind for the seagulls to attack.
Yesterday I was walking past Macdonalds in Llandudno and was as usual amazed at the drive through queue as even the smell of the fat they use puts me off. It struck me though that if people are too idle to park the car and walk in to Macdonalds they are probably too idle to get out of the car to dispose of the rubbish in a bin.
These take away outlets have a lot to answer to as well as the lazy people who buy their products. What about installing some sponsored drive past bins !
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Post by: DaveR on April 15, 2015, 09:06:42 am
Blodwen the neolithic skeleton to go on display at Llandudno Museum
11:00, 14 April 2015 By Eryl Crump
Stone Age resident unearthed during quarrying operations on the Little Orme


The return of Llandudno’s earliest known resident will be celebrated in a special exhibition this week.

Blodwen’s skeleton was unearthed during quarrying operations on the Little Ormes Head, in 1891. She had lived during the Stone Age about 5,500 years ago.

When she was discovered there were no museum facilities in the area so quarry owner, Joseph Storey, took her remains back to his home town in Lancashire.

He entrusted her to the Bacup Natural History Society (BNHS) for safe keeping. She laid there for years in a cupboard, before eventually being put on display.

A Llandudno historian, Ken Dibble, researching the Victorian period discovered the finding and called for a proper investigation.

In 1995 experts from the Research Unit of the Manchester University dated the skeleton as being around 5,500 years old and christened her ‘Blodwen.’

Research of her bones suggest that she had died between the age of 54 and 63, that she was of robust build, and had arthritis in both her spine and knee and possibly suffered from cancer.

Living until that age would have been an achievement for someone in the Neolithic (Stone) age and Blodwen may well have been an important elder in her community.

Mr Dibble campaigned for Blodwen to be returned to Llandudno and negotiations were conducted over several years until an agrement was reached. Sadly Ken passed away before the museum received the good news.

Llandudno Museum launched a public appeal last November, which used Crowdfunding to raise nearly £3,000 towards the purchase of a new display case for the skeleton’s remains.

Reg Haley, Chairman of the Chardon Trust, which owns and manages Llandudno Museum, added: “We are so excited to welcome Blodwen home and to share her story with our visitors and the local community.

“We are very grateful to our funders and supporters, in particular the response we received from local people.”

The exhibition will explore Neolithic Llandudno and imagine the world that Blodwen inhabited.

Deputy Minister for Culture, Sport and Tourism, Ken Skates, who will open the exhibition, said: “I am delighted to see Blodwen back in Llandudno Museum and it is clear that the people of Llandudno have taken her to their hearts.

“Projects like this are an excellent example of how local independent museums and their communities can work together for mutual benefit.”

The exhibition will be open to the public from 2pm on Thursday April 16 at the museum in Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/arts-culture-news/blodwen-neolithic-skeleton-go-display-9038028 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/arts-culture-news/blodwen-neolithic-skeleton-go-display-9038028)
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Post by: Ian on April 15, 2015, 10:01:41 am
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Stone Age resident unearthed during quarrying operations on the Little Orme

A spokesman for CCBC said "We are investigating rumours that she may have been active in Neolithic politics as her appearance, when unearthed, bore an uncanny resemblance to some of our current members in Cabinet.".

There is some evidence to support this theory. He added "Some similarities between her recent activity and those of our current members have been found." Further evidence is provided by the Daily Post article, in which it is stated "She laid (at the Bacup Natural History Society) for years in a cupboard, before eventually being put on display.".



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Post by: Mikethewatch on April 15, 2015, 12:10:09 pm
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A spokesman for CCBC said "We are investigating rumours that she may have been active in Neolithic politics as her appearance, when unearthed, bore an uncanny resemblance to some of our current members in Cabinet.".

There is some evidence to support this theory. He added "Some similarities between her recent activity and those of our current members have been found." Further evidence is provided by the Daily Post article, in which it is stated "She laid (at the Bacup Natural History Society) for years in a cupboard, before eventually being put on display.".


 _))* Probably on the planning committee too.....
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Post by: DaveR on April 16, 2015, 09:41:47 am
I see Asda have banned Ysgol John Bright pupils from the store:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/asda-llandudno-bans-ysgol-john-9051516 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/asda-llandudno-bans-ysgol-john-9051516)
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Post by: Ian on April 16, 2015, 09:59:44 am
I find that decision puzzling. Whenever we've been there amongst crowds of JB kids they've always been polite, well behaved and helpful. But the decision to ban them all is illogical and unfair to the majority.

By only banning them 'in uniform' it also means that an easy way of catching the odd shoplifter is made more difficult, not less. And blanket punishment in schools has been unacceptable for years. Very strange.
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Post by: Dave on April 16, 2015, 10:08:18 am
It appears the headmaster is 100% in support of the decision and having met him I have a feeling that the ban is likely to be temporary and as a lesson learnt to stamp out this kind of behaviour. Abuse it and you loose it.Yes, the innocent become victims too but they also become enforcers when the right is returned. Good for him.
As for the report suggesting parents with pupils being banned I'm sure that's totally fabricated unless the parents have also got a record for bad behaviour too !
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Post by: Gwynant on April 16, 2015, 05:10:43 pm
              When I worked at ASDA about 10 years ago the JBGS kids were banned by the manager at the time for general bad behaviour outside the shop at lunchtime, littering, throwing food about and swearing. It lasted a few weeks and then they were allowed back in and there was a marked improvement immediately. I got the impression that the ringleaders got the blame from the rest of the kids as they made a big effort to be well behaved and tidy when they returned.
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Post by: SDQ on April 16, 2015, 05:23:49 pm
These things tend to be cyclic. No doubt after the ban they'll all be a bunch of cherubs for a while and the decline will start again. We'll be reading a similar headline in a few years and the cycle is complete!
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Post by: DaveR on April 17, 2015, 12:07:53 pm
I hear builders will be starting work at Broadway Boulevard in the next couple of weeks. No word yet as to what's going in there.
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Post by: Ian on April 17, 2015, 12:20:18 pm
The Asda ban saga continues:

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It appears the headmaster is 100% in support of the decision

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But the school's head teacher Graham Davies told BBC Wales he was "not aware" there would be a blanket ban and has spoken to the store's manager.

Full story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-32330266)

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Post by: Dave on April 17, 2015, 12:53:02 pm
He hasn't come out and condemned it either!
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Post by: Nemesis on April 17, 2015, 01:25:09 pm
Often, if the ringleaders are caught, it can make them look foolish in front of their friends and better behaviour ensues.
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Post by: Gwynant on April 17, 2015, 01:52:28 pm
              When I worked at ASDA about 10 years ago the JBGS kids were banned by the manager at the time for general bad behaviour outside the shop at lunchtime, littering, throwing food about and swearing. It lasted a few weeks and then they were allowed back in and there was a marked improvement immediately. I got the impression that the ringleaders got the blame from the rest of the kids as they made a big effort to be well behaved and tidy when they returned.
          Exactly Nem, that's the impression I got, I think the other kids gave them a bit of a hard time because they were missing their lunchtime "fix" of fast food, chicken legs etc.
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Post by: wrex on April 17, 2015, 04:19:00 pm
DaveR half a story is no good x
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Post by: Mikethewatch on April 17, 2015, 06:07:58 pm
I was told nightclub firm  from Manchester has bought it
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Post by: Fester on April 21, 2015, 11:34:06 am
If CCBC carry on the way they are, there really won't be a tourist industry left in Llandudno.

Apart from the determined investment focus on Colwyn Bay, (which I don't begrudge), there are a whole host of things which are now actively deterring visitors to the town.

Apart from the litter enforcement Gestapo, there is the the appalling amount of rubbish which is strewn around the town either from the lack of bins, or the seagulls dragging it out of bins.   Either way, it creates a terrible image and is not being dealt with.

But today, I see that Car Parking charges around the Pier area have DOUBLED!    It used to cost £1.50 to park by The Grand for 8 hours, and it has gone to £3.00.   To pile on the agony yet further, from 1st May that goes to £4.50!!

All these things are set against yet another hike in Council Tax, this year a full 5%.
When Oh when will the council take proper responsibility, and look to themselves for cost savings, rather than simply screw more money out of the beleaguered families that look forward to visiting the resort?   $angry$
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Post by: DaveR on April 21, 2015, 12:01:30 pm
But today, I see that Car Parking charges around the Pier area have DOUBLED!    It used to cost £1.50 to park by The Grand for 8 hours, and it has gone to £3.00.   To pile on the agony yet further, from 1st May that goes to £4.50!!
Outrageous. There just doesn't seem to be any synergy between various Council depts, one lot is trying to bring more people into the town, another is driving them away with litter wardens and increased car parking fees.  &shake&
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Post by: Fester on April 21, 2015, 12:15:30 pm
Yes, and how can it be right that the same CCBC council allows FREE parking all the way along the Prom at Colwyn Bay, yet mercilessly punishes drivers in Llandudno?

It's wrong, on many levels.
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Post by: FatAndy on April 21, 2015, 02:07:13 pm
Yes, and how can it be right that the same CCBC council allows FREE parking all the way along the Prom at Colwyn Bay, yet mercilessly punishes drivers in Llandudno?

It's wrong, on many levels.

It costs £4.50 for 10 hours at Happy Valley and £4.50 for 6 hours on Llandudno Promenade (between May and September).  If you want to park in Colwyn Bay it's £4.50 for 4 hours on either the Princes Drive or Ivy Street car parks.  You can't pay for more than 4 hours in one go at either Princes Drive or Ivy Street so if you wanted to stay for 10 hours you'd have to buy three seperate tickets at a cost of £13.50.  It also costs £4.50 to park for 4 hours on the council car park in Towyn at present.  Presumably you'll be demanding that Conwy CBC reduces the time allowed at Happy Valley and the Prom to 4 hours in the interests of equality?
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Post by: Fester on April 21, 2015, 02:38:44 pm
Andy, you get very defensive over what is a simple issue.

To answer your question directly, I want common sense charges, uniform charges.. or preferably none at all!
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Post by: DaveR on April 21, 2015, 02:44:10 pm
Charges are being introduced for car parking on Colwyn Bay prom. CCBC has noticed that the new beach is very popular and are determined to put a stop to it...  :laugh:
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Post by: DVT on April 21, 2015, 07:46:55 pm
Mrs DVT has to take her mother to Conwy three times a week for Doctor appointments.  From today the car park charges in the Vicarage Car Park have increased dramatically.

Are the Council in league with the train and bus companies in trying to encourage more visitors to travel by public transport?
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Post by: Fester on April 21, 2015, 09:27:40 pm
DVT, if I thought for one second that such a far-sighted strategy was being implemented then I might even go along with it.
BUT....along with draconian litter enforcement fines, council tax hikes etc.... we are simply being TAXED TO DEATH!!
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Post by: wrex on April 21, 2015, 09:53:33 pm
We are paying for the cock ups CCBC have made ,wether here in Llandudno[maesdu bridge] and the pathetic restaurant saga on Coplwyn beach.
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Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2015, 08:49:57 am
Mrs DVT has to take her mother to Conwy three times a week for Doctor appointments.  From today the car park charges in the Vicarage Car Park have increased dramatically.

Are the Council in league with the train and bus companies in trying to encourage more visitors to travel by public transport?
I have a Car Parking Permit, saves a few quid if you use council car parks on a regular basis:
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=10598&doc=27207 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=10598&doc=27207)

Can't use it on the Prom in Llandudno though, for some reason. Apparently, paying over £2000 in Council Tax a year, plus £90 for a Parking Permit, still doesn't entitle me to pay without paying on the Prom.  &shake&
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Post by: born2run on April 22, 2015, 09:14:45 am
Yes, and how can it be right that the same CCBC council allows FREE parking all the way along the Prom at Colwyn Bay, yet mercilessly punishes drivers in Llandudno?

It's wrong, on many levels.

Nope, it's Multi story car parking that would be wrong on many levels  _))*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 22, 2015, 10:31:59 am
That permit only covers one car! Shame it is not for the owner to use in any car.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 22, 2015, 01:43:00 pm
I hear builders will be starting work at Broadway Boulevard in the next couple of weeks. No word yet as to what's going in there.

I was told nightclub firm  from Manchester has bought it

Did I just see a FOR SALE sign outside where there used to be a sign showing AUCTION?
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Post by: wrex on April 22, 2015, 03:04:50 pm
Auction sign was high up above car park,always been a sign by door,if thats where u mean Bri
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Post by: DaveR on April 22, 2015, 03:35:33 pm
That permit only covers one car! Shame it is not for the owner to use in any car.
I suppose it would be too prone to abuse if the car wasn't named, sadly.
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Post by: wrex on April 22, 2015, 08:27:32 pm
Reading the latest on Broadway in the pioneer isn;t good reading,it makes it sound as if this new owner would sell,god i hope they don;t put anybody off opening it as a night club again,i will give them a peoject,get the Pier pavilion re-built,the preservation society has never shown any interest in 20 years.
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Post by: Michael on April 22, 2015, 08:31:51 pm
 Which pier pavilion are we writing about?
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Post by: Fester on April 22, 2015, 10:47:22 pm
The non-existent one Mike, which sadly is never likely to rise in any form, ever again.  :'( :'(
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Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2015, 09:49:34 am
Reading the latest on Broadway in the pioneer isn;t good reading,it makes it sound as if this new owner would sell,god i hope they don;t put anybody off opening it as a night club again,
Yes, I read it as though the new owner wants to work with the Grand Theatre Trust to open it as a cinema/live venue.
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Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2015, 10:00:51 am
Very interesting article in the Daily Post Business Section yesterday about Mostyn Estates and how they have set up a special investment vehicle to acquire shops in Llandudno. This explains their recent splurge of purchases along Mostyn Stree, with them buying the old Milletts shop, the British Red Cross shop and the former Ethel Austin shop in recent months. It's a great investment strategy for them.
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Post by: wrex on April 23, 2015, 12:16:10 pm
still two to go,next to the Town houuse and Animal shop.
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Post by: DaveR on April 23, 2015, 02:49:39 pm
Another beautiful (in spite of the weather forecast) day in Llandudno:
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Post by: born2run on April 24, 2015, 12:11:12 pm
Reading the latest on Broadway in the pioneer isn;t good reading,it makes it sound as if this new owner would sell,god i hope they don;t put anybody off opening it as a night club again,
Yes, I read it as though the new owner wants to work with the Grand Theatre Trust to open it as a cinema/live venue.

How much does the large theatre next to it LOSE every year again?
It would have to be heavily subsidised......By us.
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Post by: DaveR on April 24, 2015, 12:21:41 pm
Reading the latest on Broadway in the pioneer isn;t good reading,it makes it sound as if this new owner would sell,god i hope they don;t put anybody off opening it as a night club again,
Yes, I read it as though the new owner wants to work with the Grand Theatre Trust to open it as a cinema/live venue.

How much does the large theatre next to it LOSE every year again?
It would have to be heavily subsidised......By us.
It wouldn't be owned by CCBC though, so no impact on local taxes. If the Grand Theatre Trust can prise open lottery funding or similar, then good luck to them.
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Post by: born2run on April 24, 2015, 12:35:17 pm
I hope they can it would be brilliant. But realistically it's never going to make a profit, so I wonder what's in it for the owners?
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Post by: Fester on April 24, 2015, 12:46:29 pm
Friday morning, and there are Earthmovers and workmen dumping hundreds of tons of sand onto the beach by the Pier.

Now, that prompts 3 questions from me.

1, Didn't they do this last year, at great expense, just to see it all washed away within days?

2, Isn't this meant to be a bad weather period, for the next 10 days?  So no one will ever see it?

3, Wouldn't it have been better to do this at Easter, so that at least the children would have had chance to play on it for the short time it remains in place? 

 &shake& &shake& ?{}? ?{}?

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Post by: Hugo on April 24, 2015, 01:35:52 pm
I wonder where they got the sand from then?    It might be from the West Shore end of Abbey Road as there are an increasing number of sandhills down there.   
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Post by: Gwynant on April 24, 2015, 01:45:47 pm
         I watched the digger starting to clear a path to the long jetty next to the pier through the stones yesterday morning, as soon as the tide allowed access to it round the bottom of the shorter one. There also seems to be some sand dumped on the shingle (rubble) in two spots along the prom either side of the bandstand where kids were building their sandcastles over the Easter break when the tide was in. Unfortunately the sand soon disappears down between the stones, leaving it looking like a small rocky desert area.  Meanwhile all the sand which was moved off the West Shore prom by the boat pond and dumped back on the beach is now back again on the landward side of the sea-wall.
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Post by: Hugo on April 24, 2015, 06:04:58 pm
Not surprising to us locals Gwynant      &shake&
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Post by: norman08 on April 24, 2015, 08:44:10 pm
Took a walk along the prom tonight ,got to the jetty didn,t think our council could get any dafter ,but oh yes they have they have dug a gully at the side so the speedboats and Rogers pleasure boat can use the jetty ,once again they don,t realise the tide will move it back by next week it looks a mess . _))* _))* _))*
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Post by: Michael on April 24, 2015, 09:11:50 pm
  Reading all these posts about sand and tides reminds me of good old King Kanute
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Post by: DaveR on April 27, 2015, 09:08:33 am
Had a very pleasant walk along from West Shore to Conwy yesterday, the Prom at Deganwy has been repaired and is fully open again:
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Post by: DaveR on April 29, 2015, 02:53:29 pm
Some brave workmen were at the top of a very large access platform earlier, working on the fly tower of Venue Cymru:
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Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2015, 09:45:43 am
Venue Cymru Llandudno to host jam tart world record bid
19:07, 29 April 2015
By David Powell

Bakers at Coleg Llandrillo prepare first 500 strong batch of 2,000 strawberry jam treats for Venue Cymru bid on Alice Day, May 1

The first 500-strong batch of jam tarts has been baked ready for a world record attempt on Friday.

Organisers hope to set a record for the most jam tarts lying in a line - 2,000 in all - on more than 25 trestle tables at Venue Cymru, Llandudno.

The tasty treats feature in the court of the King and Queen of Hearts in Lewis Carroll’s classic book Alice in Wonderland.

Barry Mortlock, of the organisers A.L.I.C.E Ltd, visited Coleg Llandrillo in Rhos On Sea today to see the pastries being baked.

He said: “We are pleased that this gargantuan task has begun.

“The baking department’s Sophie Turner, Luke King and chef Cerian Dickman have made about 500 jam tarts so far.”

Mr Mortlock said observers will be drafted in for the attempt and companies have offered to help for the attempt on May 1 which has been dubbed Alice Day.

He added: “The pastry of each tart has to be touching each other and in a line and Mostyn Estates have offered their surveyors.

“Welsh Lady Preserves from Pwllheli have donated the strawberry jam and the Ham Bone delis have donated 55kg of flour.”

He said Bookers of Llandudno have also waded in with the copious amounts of eggs, sugar and butter.

Meanwhile Harlech Food Services will carry the tarts to the venue.

After the counting, the jam tarts will be given out by college staff to schoolchildren.

Youngsters will need to consume them as a requirement of the record.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-venue-cymru-llandudno-host-9149057 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-venue-cymru-llandudno-host-9149057)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on April 30, 2015, 12:28:15 pm
Llandudno already holds the world record for most overzealous celebration of a tenuous link with an author  D)
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Post by: Fester on April 30, 2015, 12:41:16 pm
Llandudno already holds the world record for most overzealous celebration of a tenuous link with an author  D)

We also hold the record for the most mis-managed, pathetic, and in some cases demolished attractions in connection with said Author.

I also noticed whilst walking around the Gt Orme, these little stations where you can scan a code into your phone and get information about the area via Wi-Fi.
A good idea,  apart from the fact that is is IMPOSSIBLE to get any Wi-Fi signal anywhere near those points.
Another well thought out move eh?    &shake& &shake&




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Post by: Nemesis on April 30, 2015, 12:45:36 pm
Llandudno already holds the world record for most overzealous celebration of a tenuous link with an author  D)

We also hold the record for the most mis-managed, pathetic, and in some cases demolished attractions in connection with said Author.

I also noticed whilst walking around the Gt Orme, these little stations where you can scan a code into your phone and get information about the area via Wi-Fi.
A good idea,  apart from the fact that is is IMPOSSIBLE to get any Wi-Fi signal anywhere near those points.
Another well thought out move eh?    &shake& &shake&

The White Rabbit must still be down in its burrow :o
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Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2015, 01:03:59 pm
A good idea,  apart from the fact that is is IMPOSSIBLE to get any Wi-Fi signal anywhere near those points.
:laugh:
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Post by: born2run on April 30, 2015, 04:38:36 pm
Why can't you do it by 3 or 4G?
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Post by: DaveR on April 30, 2015, 06:12:00 pm
Why can't you do it by 3 or 4G?
There's no signal on many parts of the Marine Drive.
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Post by: Fester on April 30, 2015, 08:47:30 pm
Why can't you do it by 3 or 4G?

There is NO 4G anywhere in this area.... there is certainly little or no 3G around Marine Drive.
But that would have been too difficult for the planners to figure out.    &shake& &shake&
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Post by: Hugo on May 01, 2015, 02:40:45 pm
I went shopping in Llandudno earlier in the day and it was nice to see the Bodafon Fields  full of visitors getting ready for the Extravaganza.
Let's hope the weather stays ok over the weekend and that everyone can enjoy the Bank Holiday.   
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Post by: DaveR on May 02, 2015, 12:34:33 pm
Good to see the crowds are still at the Extravaganza, in spite of the poor weather.  $good$
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 02, 2015, 12:52:30 pm
We usually look at the transport show, but we hate getting wet! I will  wait till Monday, better weather for casted then!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2015, 02:23:44 pm
Good to see the crowds are still at the Extravaganza, in spite of the poor weather.  $good$

Not the ideal day to be in the parade,.................a lot of wet feathers and soggy taffeta around.
Mike............. I hope you got dried out, you looked soaked even before the parade started.
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Post by: Michael on May 02, 2015, 06:55:36 pm
Yes I was soaked but worse, I was also freezing cold. And even worse stil, I had two caddies both of whom were on wages oh dear
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Post by: Michael on May 02, 2015, 06:58:08 pm
  The only brief time I had a warm glow when I had a lovely cuddle with a Victorian beauty pearly queen, strictly for the photographers of course
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Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2015, 09:56:32 pm
You are an old charmer Mike. Hope you don't suffer from a chill. Might see you tomorrow if it is fit to turn out and I haven't got pneumonia !
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Post by: Fester on May 02, 2015, 10:47:53 pm
Mike / Nemesis, you put us all to shame...

It took me ages tonight to get warmed through, I sincerely hope you don't suffer as a result of your Victorian endeavours.  $good$
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Post by: DaveR on May 03, 2015, 10:52:45 am
A shame that Mr Alexander was unable to perform his excellent show yesterday, due to the weather. Hopefully, he will be in action today and Monday, it's well worth seeing.  $good$
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Post by: Nemesis on May 03, 2015, 11:00:03 am
Mike / Nemesis, you put us all to shame...

It took me ages tonight to get warmed through, I sincerely hope you don't suffer as a result of your Victorian endeavours.  $good$

Thanks for that Fester. I really should never have set off, but thought about all the people who put so much time and effort into organising such a gargantuan event, so decided to brave it ! Hope to be there again at 1pm today as it is now fine and I think I am up to date with work.

Thanks Wrex and Crew $good$
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Post by: Michael on May 03, 2015, 04:07:42 pm
Thanks Fester. Had another go today -- what a difference. Warm, sunny and a very, very large crowd clapping and cheering. Only bad spot, my caddy said his arms were aching from carrying the golf bag, and could you leave one of the two clubs he was carrying to make it lighter. I doubt anyone of his age will read this, he is about 17. So no one will be offended. But it makes you wonder, he is from the age who will have to look after us all in the future. And two clubs were too heavy. The mind boggles.
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Post by: Nemesis on May 03, 2015, 05:39:35 pm
perhaps if he had taken the ear pieces from his pod thing ( here speaks a dinosaur) out he would have managed better !!!
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Post by: Bosun on May 03, 2015, 09:20:18 pm
Llandudno was absolutely jam packed today; even West Shore was full with people parking and walking in to the centre of town, great to see and I hope that the traders and shops had a good day although I must admit to be surprised to see shops closed on such a busy day.

My only gripe was the awful scruffiness of some of the Policing staff present, (mainly PSCO's) that was utterly embarrassing. The British Police uniform has obviously had to evolve to meet current needs, but some of today's staff need to be told who and what they represent, look in the mirror and tidy themselves up.
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Post by: Fester on May 03, 2015, 11:04:06 pm
Thanks Fester. Had another go today -- what a difference. Warm, sunny and a very, very large crowd clapping and cheering. Only bad spot, my caddy said his arms were aching from carrying the golf bag, and could you leave one of the two clubs he was carrying to make it lighter. I doubt anyone of his age will read this, he is about 17. So no one will be offended. But it makes you wonder, he is from the age who will have to look after us all in the future. And two clubs were too heavy. The mind boggles.

They don't make 'em like they used to Mike!   This is why we need a nuclear deterrent, because we would get our backsides kicked in 10 minutes flat is we tried to fight a conventional scrap!    &shake& &shake&
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Post by: DaveR on May 04, 2015, 07:03:28 pm
A successgul Extravaganza, I think, in spite of the poor weather on the first day. Well done to Wrex and all the committee members and volunteers who worked hard to make it happen.  $good$
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Post by: wrex on May 04, 2015, 08:18:25 pm
cheers DaveR
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Post by: Michael on May 04, 2015, 09:18:48 pm
Yes thanks to Wrex, well organised as ever.
  Going back to Nemises's post , the plug in my caddies ear. I had' the noticed that until I heard people in the crowd shouting "give us a leaflet. Give us a leaflet. Give us a leaflet" now I know why
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Post by: Michael on May 04, 2015, 09:22:32 pm
   Just thought. I've got a plug in both ears. Perhaps he thought it was a part of the company dress code
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Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2015, 09:24:25 pm
Yes thanks to Wrex, well organised as ever.
  Going back to Nemises's post , the plug in my caddies ear. I had' the noticed that until I heard people in the crowd shouting "give us a leaflet. Give us a leaflet. Give us a leaflet" now I know why

Then he disappeared and you lost him ! Hope you found him Ok.......or did he have to walk back up the Orme ?
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Post by: Michael on May 04, 2015, 09:31:12 pm
 He had to walk back up the Orme. Not very happy, but his fault. Too impatient to wait 5 mins in the Cafe. He thought I was in front of him but actually I was behind. No wonder all the onlookers didn't know what it was all about.  Thank goodness I,ve got a glass of wine in my hand so I,m in a good mood
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Post by: Michael on May 04, 2015, 09:33:57 pm
 Change that from glass to bottle. My Wife always said that I had not been brought up proper
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Post by: Fester on May 04, 2015, 11:29:14 pm
Good Lad Mike!   Z**

I took an hour off work today, and I watched the parade for the first time in 7 years.
I loved it, I think it gets better as the years go by.   (Now that the bloody Star Wars characters are not in it!)

I bought myself a cheeseburger (from outside the Cups n Cakes shop), and a pint from The Carlton.
I sat on the roundabout by The Carlton, and was only 3 feet away from Mike Ormegolf as he majestically strode by me.... I said hello, but the adulation from the crowd was too great,  he couldn't hear me.

Wrex, and all involved... well done mate, it was another great weekend.
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Post by: DaveR on May 05, 2015, 09:37:36 am
We saw the Parade from by the St Georges Hotel on Sunday. It was very entertaining and it was good to see Mike receiving so much attention from the crowd! His Caddie was very efficient at making sure everyone by us got a leaflet too.  $good$
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Post by: SDQ on May 05, 2015, 10:18:21 am
Now that the bloody Star Wars characters are not in it!


They're probably busy making the new movie!
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Post by: DVT on May 07, 2015, 10:58:18 am
Bit of a heads up!

The Marine Drive is closed tomorrow (Friday 8th) from early until 5pm - Wales Rally GB are running a Business Day for event supporters to be given rally rides.  The run will start at the Rest & Be Thankful and go clockwise to finish near the toll gate - this is not a competitive event.  The runs will finish before 1pm.  North Wales Car Club members assisting with the event.

Further, next Wednesday (13th) Tour Britannia - the Orme is closed early for the classic cars to be run as a Special Stage around the Marine Drive (anti-clockwise, correct direction!).  First car due just after 7am and should all be finished by 10am.  The event is based in Llandudno from where they start on Wednesday, then head to Ireland, returning Friday (15th) afternoon!
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Post by: Hugo on May 12, 2015, 11:15:39 pm
Is this Llandudno driver North Wales' worst at parking?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/all-about/traffic-and-travel (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/all-about/traffic-and-travel)
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Post by: Fester on May 12, 2015, 11:30:00 pm
I saw that car when I went for breakfast the other morning... properly parked cars were either side of it.

I assumed that either someone had parked there like that as an emergency, and would move it in a minute.
Or maybe they were there first, and assumed that you HAD to park like that... in line with the spaces in the middle of the road on Gloddaeth.
But obviously not, as it was still there some time later.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 13, 2015, 07:36:26 am
I may be imagining it but actual driving seems in more need of attention at the moment. Some of the overtaking on the A470 between Glan Conwy and Llanrwst has to be seen to be believed and the correct use of signals and roundabouts seems to have escaped quite a few of the car drivers.
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Post by: Hugo on May 13, 2015, 08:27:39 am
I may be imagining it but actual driving seems in more need of attention at the moment. Some of the overtaking on the A470 between Glan Conwy and Llanrwst has to be seen to be believed and the correct use of signals and roundabouts seems to have escaped quite a few of the car drivers.

The standard of driving does appear to be getting worse but those people doing the bad driving always seem to get away with it.  I've now got a video camera installed  in the car just in case I'm a victim of theses drivers
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Post by: DaveR on May 13, 2015, 08:50:49 am
I saw that car when I went for breakfast the other morning... properly parked cars were either side of it.

I assumed that either someone had parked there like that as an emergency, and would move it in a minute.
Or maybe they were there first, and assumed that you HAD to park like that... in line with the spaces in the middle of the road on Gloddaeth.
But obviously not, as it was still there some time later.
Amazing!
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Post by: Fester on May 13, 2015, 02:13:08 pm
If you zoom in or squint your eyes, you can see a plane with a banner towed behind it...... flying over Llandudno bay today.

It says... 'I love you Angela,  will you marry me?'

A romantic and expensive gesture.... I just hope that Angela actually saw it! 
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Post by: Tom Davidson on May 13, 2015, 02:54:59 pm
Hi Fester - can the Daily Post/Weekly News please use that picture?

We can try and track down Angela!

Thanks,
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Post by: Fester on May 13, 2015, 02:58:17 pm
It's a rubbish picture Tom, but feel free.... courtesy of Mr Fester!

I spoke to Angela and her Fiancee, soon after.... they are a very young couple from Lancashire.

She said... YES!
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Post by: Fester on May 13, 2015, 03:05:14 pm
This one, although still rubbish, might be a bit more suitable?
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Post by: norman08 on May 13, 2015, 04:49:17 pm
Thought they must have been on the pier fester ,I was on the prom and just about made it out .
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Post by: Tom Davidson on May 13, 2015, 05:04:05 pm
Fester - could you email a copy of those pictures if possible, might be better quality that way! I'm at tom.davidson@trinitymirror.com

Appreciate the help,
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Post by: Fester on May 13, 2015, 05:16:31 pm
Done Tom.

Now perhaps YOU would be good enough to pick up on the subject of the Litter Enforcement Gestapo, which I requested of you on here a few weeks ago.
It is a serious issue, and one which has already prompted many 'regular' visiting families, to declare that they will NEVER visit Llandudno again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 13, 2015, 05:22:37 pm
The same litter enforcement gestapo who are, if rumours to be believed, getting a larger remit as part of Conwy Council restructuring their work force?

I'll be sure to work on it .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 13, 2015, 05:57:16 pm
I may be imagining it but actual driving seems in more need of attention at the moment. Some of the overtaking on the A470 between Glan Conwy and Llanrwst has to be seen to be believed and the correct use of signals and roundabouts seems to have escaped quite a few of the car drivers.

I witnessed it for myself today Ian when two cars, an Audi TT and a Toyata Celica  were overtaking when they were coming up to blind bends.
Luckily no other cars were coming the other way or it could have been a fatality.
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Post by: SDQ on May 13, 2015, 07:07:04 pm
I may be imagining it but actual driving seems in more need of attention at the moment. Some of the overtaking on the A470 between Glan Conwy and Llanrwst has to be seen to be believed and the correct use of signals and roundabouts seems to have escaped quite a few of the car drivers.

I witnessed it for myself today Ian when two cars, an Audi TT and a Toyata Celica  were overtaking when they were coming up to blind bends.
Luckily no other cars were coming the other way or it could have been a fatality.


I saw a similar incident earlier. Numpty in a van overtaking a car opposite Nev's Garage with little space in front to pull back in. The car in front & myself had to brake to allow him time to barge his way back in before he hit us head-on!
I regularly drive up and down the valley and the speed some people go is shocking. It's no wonder there have been so many accidents. I must admit though, the number of cars dawdling at 30mph are just as bad in my opinion, frustrating some drivers to the point they pull off a stupid overtaking manouvre. Short of making it a dual carriageway all the way I'm at a loss to how they will resolve the situation.
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Post by: Hugo on May 13, 2015, 10:16:01 pm
Like I have mentioned before,  one of my cars has a video camera on it just in case I become a victim of these drivers.    A few years ago my previous car was written off when a driver came out of a T junction without looking.   I was able to stop but his didn't  and my car became an economical write off.
We exchanged details and addresses and he came to my house the following day and asked me to say that his girl friend was driving the car as he wasn't insured to drive it.
I was quite blunt with him and told him that there was no way that I would lie about it and apart from that I had already told my insurance company the facts and a Police sergeant in the North Wales Traffic.
The camera is there in case anything happens again or if I was a witness to any other accident.  Why should the guilty party get away with bad driving.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 13, 2015, 10:47:31 pm
That would have been perverting the course of justice!  Very serious offence! 
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Post by: Ian on May 14, 2015, 06:39:22 am
And around here that could have led to a short spell as a guest of her majesty, almost certainly made your insurance in the future extremely costly and led to many other porbem9s, such as it becoming near impossible to get other forms of insurance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 14, 2015, 07:36:58 am
Honesty is the best policy, certainly in the cases relating to insurance companies as I've found out, hence the video/audio camera I've got now.
After the crash I phoned the North Wales Police and spoke to a sergeant there and explained the situation to him and told him that I had cleared all the broken glass and debris from the road so there was no need for the Police to come up and do it.
At the time of the phone call I was unaware of the fact that the driver was uninsured as he had spun me a story about his father who was ill or otherwise I would have got the Police there immediately.
It cost me my excess of £250.00 on my insurance policy but at least I didn't lose my no claims bonus because I wasn't at fault for the accident but it made me wary of a similar situation in the future.
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Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2015, 12:49:34 pm
I regularly drive up and down the valley and the speed some people go is shocking. It's no wonder there have been so many accidents. I must admit though, the number of cars dawdling at 30mph are just as bad in my opinion, frustrating some drivers to the point they pull off a stupid overtaking manouvre. Short of making it a dual carriageway all the way I'm at a loss to how they will resolve the situation.
The simplest answer is to widen it slightly (as it already is in the newer sections), to allow for the width of three vehicles. That way, even an idiot overtaking when there was a car coming the other way would have space to pass in safety. At the moment, certain sections are so narrow that overtaking when someone is coming the other way at the same time can only result in a crash, as the drivers have nowhere to go.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 14, 2015, 07:43:35 pm
The same litter enforcement gestapo who are, if rumours to be believed, getting a larger remit as part of Conwy Council restructuring their work force?

I'll be sure to work on it .

Thanks Tom.
I now have firm statements from 2 of my customers (whilst ordering over the phone), that they are no longer coming to Llandudno due to the intimidating and vulture-like litter enforcement officers.
I watched them in action again today, (whilst talking to Nomon08), as they kept a young girl in the cold wind and rain, for an inordinate amount of time in the street... whilst fining her.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 14, 2015, 08:01:59 pm
I still wonder why people do not just tell them to b****r off? Or do they only choose defenseless victims?  $angry$
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Post by: born2run on May 15, 2015, 09:08:39 am
They have cameras and will threaten you with arrest. They are very scary and there are loads of them. Whilst walking the street from the Chippy opposite bog island right up to Gregorys the jewellers I passed 4 pairs of them last summer!
The irony, on that whole stretch there was ZERO bins. That's why I passed them all looking for somewhere to throw away my chippy paper. ££$ - 'Parasitic bullying gangsters'. You can quote that in your article.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 15, 2015, 09:45:00 am
For once we agree!   D) I doubt their powers of arrest go beyond an ordinary citizen's arrest, if they try to restrain you then it would be an assault. I still say better to employ litter pickers than  these council paid bullies!  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 15, 2015, 01:04:59 pm
They have the power to threaten you with arrest,  they cannot arrest you.

What they 'threaten' to do, is call the police if you fail to comply with their demands for a fixed penalty.

Now, given that they are paid in relation to how many people they fine, and given that the Police custody suite is in St Asaph, I am sorely tempted to put them to the test.
Wouldn't it be great to tie them up all day in St Asaph, making statements etc.... thus ensuring that they earn a non-viable amount for the entire day.   
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 15, 2015, 01:22:40 pm
Great idea!  :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 15, 2015, 01:33:15 pm
They have the power to threaten you with arrest,  they cannot arrest you.

What they 'threaten' to do, is call the police if you fail to comply with their demands for a fixed penalty.

Now, given that they are paid in relation to how many people they fine, and given that the Police custody suite is in St Asaph, I am sorely tempted to put them to the test.
Wouldn't it be great to tie them up all day in St Asaph, making statements etc.... thus ensuring that they earn a non-viable amount for the entire day.   

Can you or admin point us to the original discussion on here about these lot. It would help Tom as well. A lot of good points both for and against them were made at the time.
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Post by: Fester on May 15, 2015, 02:24:00 pm
I believe it was originally raised on the 'Scum' thread.....  by you wasn't it?
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Post by: norman08 on May 15, 2015, 02:33:10 pm
I watched a young family by bog island the other day the little lad had just come from school showing a friend his paintings they blew off in the wind ,the little lad was crying thinking he,d lost them ,one piece landed at the feet of an elderly lady, the bully boy ran over the road laughing (here,s another easy target ) unlucky for him the dad got there before him took it back thanking the lady ,bully not very happy ,    Have read about this company they employ ex police and service men if that is so here their not a very good advert ,homeless guys look tidier .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 15, 2015, 03:14:19 pm
I believe it was originally raised on the 'Scum' thread.....  by you wasn't it?

Nope it was raised by you. No idea which thread. I made a statement somewhere along the lines of 'seen as how we have a scum thread these should be in it' But they never were in that thread.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Lyndylou on May 15, 2015, 03:20:54 pm
Litter wardens thread was "obstacles to Tourism".  The post about the two young girls getting fined on the pier (if that was the original post) is on page 21.
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Post by: born2run on May 15, 2015, 04:31:21 pm
Thank you so much!  $thanx$

http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1602.300.html (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1602.300.html)

Here is the original thread and there is some lovely art at the top of the thread as well for a bonus!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 16, 2015, 11:35:03 am
been away for a week,come back and see CCBC gardens dept are back up to their old tricks,all down Maesdu ave and Gloddaeth ave the grass is looking very very unkept or a bloody mess
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2015, 09:35:41 am
been away for a week,come back and see CCBC gardens dept are back up to their old tricks,all down Maesdu ave and Gloddaeth ave the grass is looking very very unkept or a bloody mess
The grass in Craig Y Don Park was looking very unkempt yesterday.

On the positive side, the gardens along the Prom have been receiving lots of (badly needed) new planting ahead, no doubt, of the Wales In Bloom Judges Visit.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 18, 2015, 11:33:49 am
My story on plane banner in Llandudno last week - http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/romantic-plane-banner-seen-llandudno-9274658 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/romantic-plane-banner-seen-llandudno-9274658)

I hope everyone had a good weekend.

Tom
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 18, 2015, 02:25:43 pm
Rumour has it the pilot was fined for littering shortly afterwords  L0L

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Post by: SDQ on May 18, 2015, 03:29:47 pm
Rumour has it the pilot was fined for littering shortly afterwords  L0L




I managed to get a picture with my phone of the plane they chased him in...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on May 18, 2015, 04:26:44 pm
HAHA excellent  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 19, 2015, 10:44:19 am
My story on plane banner in Llandudno last week - http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/romantic-plane-banner-seen-llandudno-9274658 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/romantic-plane-banner-seen-llandudno-9274658)

I hope everyone had a good weekend.

Tom
I sincerely hope that photo was photoshopped, otherwise I fear we will be combing the bay for wreckage of the plane...  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 19, 2015, 11:08:04 am
It was! It does say in the caption  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on May 21, 2015, 06:50:24 pm
Any idea who came into Llandudno today, about 3.30 with a police escort?
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Post by: Michael on May 21, 2015, 07:44:00 pm
   I for one have no idea.  But I don't suppose I would have. I've lost touch with most of my underworld friends since shifting towards Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on May 21, 2015, 07:54:46 pm
Any idea who came into Llandudno today, about 3.30 with a police escort?
If it was on the A55 you saw them its probably 'someone' connected to the trial in Caernarfon
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on May 21, 2015, 09:07:42 pm
Any idea who came into Llandudno today, about 3.30 with a police escort?
If it was on the A55 you saw them its probably 'someone' connected to the trial in Caernarfon

No, on Bryniau Road, heading towards the Orme.
6 Police bikes then a white Audi estate, followed very closely behind by an unmarked police car.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on May 21, 2015, 09:08:17 pm
Sorry, double post! :D
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Post by: Fester on May 21, 2015, 10:41:08 pm
David Cameron has been in the area in the last few days, but not today I don't think?

 *&( *&( *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on May 22, 2015, 11:54:00 am
I saw it between Ruthin and Denbigh but pretty sure that was on Wednesday not yesterday, around lunchtime
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Post by: born2run on May 22, 2015, 02:15:10 pm
Were they British police?  ??? If not could have been Gutto with his Mossad agents tracking down internet bullies.   :-*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 22, 2015, 04:35:11 pm
Broadway Boulevard purchase was decision of the "heart"

The new owners of the former Broadway Boulevard nightclub in Llandudno say they will work with the community to decide what to do with the “iconic” site.

MBI Hotels, part of the MBI Consulting group, have bought the landmark Grand Theatre for £140,000 but said their purchase was a decision of the “heart” rather than their normal commercial deals.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/broadway-boulevard-purchase-decision-heart-9306588 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/broadway-boulevard-purchase-decision-heart-9306588)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 23, 2015, 04:35:49 pm
Six hours sat on the Orme and i don;t think i have ever seen it so busy,all i can say is well done Mostyn Estates you will have made ten grand for charity on Bodafon fields alone,well done Mr Hillier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on May 23, 2015, 06:11:33 pm
Excellent show, attrracting loads of people and the weather couldn't have been much better - well done Llandudno and Mostyn Estates.

But whoever was in charge of traffic management in Bodafon Fields really needs a kick up the backside.  Just arrived home after taking 1 hour 50 minutes to get off the field.  Was there a plan, if so it needs serious review - trying to get all those cars out of one exit?
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 23, 2015, 06:21:02 pm
I had to go to Asda this morning took about 20 mins going past Bodafon field due to how slowly cars were going in! Went home a different route! Good to have the airshow though!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on May 23, 2015, 06:55:34 pm
Nice to get a special steam train in to Llandudno too.
First train to use Cae Mawr sidings for over twenty years!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on May 23, 2015, 08:30:38 pm
But whoever was in charge of traffic management in Bodafon Fields really needs a kick up the backside.  Just arrived home after taking 1 hour 50 minutes to get off the field.  Was there a plan, if so it needs serious review - trying to get all those cars out of one exit?

Whoever was in charge of traffic management full stop needs sacking.  We got stuck in a one mile traffic jam on the A470 between Glan Conwy and the A55 which was caused by all the traffic clogging up the Black Cat roundabout so the effects of the chaos this event caused spread many miles outside Llandudno.  Every route into Llandudno was absolute chaos, there were people abandoning cars here, there and everywhere with no regard for anyone else - my in-laws had to spend the day chasing away ignoramuses who thought it was acceptable to park across their drive and in some cases park in such a way that would have completely blocked their road!  Around town motorists appeared to driven demented, while walking along the promenade I saw several cars drive straight through pedestrian crossings when there were pedestrian halfway across.  What I didn't see was a single steward making any effort to control this nightmare  $angry$.  When I went to the Llandudno Junction busking festival there was a steward on every road junction helping to keep the traffic flowing.  Llandudno doesn't have the logistics to host events of this scale at the best of times, there aren't enough roads in and out of town and nowhere near enough parking, so if events like this have to happen then at least make sure they're properly stewarded to minimise the effects it has on local people trying to go about their normal lives.  Somebody needs to be held to account and lessons need to be learned.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 23, 2015, 09:39:41 pm
Hate to dissolution you Fat Andy, but this problem with inconsiderate parking is nothing out of the ordinary. Every weekend is the same, the access to our garage, car space and car park is blocked by cars lined up down the narrow lane, two wheels on the pavement, two in the road way. Our neighbour even had some cheeky soul parked in his own private car park. The police won't shift them, so we have to abandon the idea of using our car at weekend.
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Post by: FatAndy on May 24, 2015, 11:24:05 am
Hate to dissolution you Fat Andy, but this problem with inconsiderate parking is nothing out of the ordinary. Every weekend is the same, the access to our garage, car space and car park is blocked by cars lined up down the narrow lane, two wheels on the pavement, two in the road way. Our neighbour even had some cheeky soul parked in his own private car park. The police won't shift them, so we have to abandon the idea of using our car at weekend.

Parking on pavements isn't (currently) an offence so unfortunately nobody can do anything about it.  Driving on a pavement is an offence so presumably if the police saw someone driving onto a pavement with the intention of parking there they could take action but once the car has stopped there's nothing they can do.  There was a MP called Martin Horwood who was trying to pass a bill through Parliament that would have made pavement parking an offence but he was a Lib Dem who lost his seat in the election so we can only hope his bill survives without him.  Parking on private land is a civil offence so again there's nothing the police can do about that.

In the case of my in-laws they live in a cul-de-sac which has a road wide enough for two cars leading up to it.  There were already cars parked up one side of the road when some moron came along and tried on the other side, completely blocking access not just for my in-laws but also all the other residents of the cul-de-sac.  This was of particular concern to us because a few years ago my father in law had a massive heart attack and at one point was given half an hour to live.  He somehow survived (the doctors didn't know how) and now has a defibrilator fitted but his heart is now only working to 20% of it's capacity so if anything had happened it would have been difficult to get an ambulance through to the house.  The time taken to smash the windows of the cars in question to enable someone to reach in and release the handbrakes might have made the difference between live and death.

Perhaps we should all write to our MP (we all know how tirelessly he works in the interests of his constituents  :roll:) and ask him to pick up Mr Horwood's old bill and see it through to fruition.

Hopefully in the meantime someone at Conwy Council will issue a proper roasting to the (dis)organisers of the event and ensure that in future they put proper stewarding in place to at least try to mitigate some of the chaos they caused yesterday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on May 24, 2015, 12:28:57 pm
 

Suggest that this is read, and quoted, this in the event of further parking issues:

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01170/SN01170.pdf (http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01170/SN01170.pdf)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 25, 2015, 07:50:09 am
CCBC cannot sort out Mostyn Champneys traffic chaoes every weekend so don/t expect them to sort out one little weekend.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on May 25, 2015, 09:07:44 am
"our MP (we all know how tirelessly he works in the interests of his constituents  :roll:"

Agree !!!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 25, 2015, 09:50:31 am


Suggest that this is read, and quoted, this in the event of further parking issues:

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01170/SN01170.pdf (http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01170/SN01170.pdf)

Thanks Bosun-----the situation was even worse yesterday.
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Post by: Hugo on May 25, 2015, 03:47:13 pm
That's really annoying Nemesis and I don't think I'd be as patient as you have been if someone blocked my drive or garage, especially if it was the same vehicles all the time.
I would have to do something rather than putting up with someones inconsiderate parking.    Even in car parks you see people parking without consideration to others and quite often it is the 4 x 4's that don't park between the lines.
Once in Betws Y Coed there was only one car parking space left and a BMW next to it  had driven in on an angle and was a foot inside the last remaining space.  Undeterred I reversed in and folded my driving mirror back and my car was about 6 inches away from his car and the driver's door, so the BMW driver would have had to go in through the passenger side to get to the driver's seat.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 25, 2015, 05:15:22 pm
I'm with you on the lack of patience Hugo, many years ago in Rhos I took action and moved a car blocking my drive a short distance, when I needed to get out, however when I returned the police were waiting for me, my young son had told them it was me!!!!!I was given a stern warning and told I could be charged with "taking away".....  :o   ....count to ten in future   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 25, 2015, 05:40:49 pm
Whatever you do, you must abide by the law, although it seems to favour the perpetrators sometimes.     A few years ago in our street we had a planning application that everyone was opposed to and we had been advised that the CCBC planning committee were coming down the narrow lane in their coach for an on site inspection, so on the day of the visit we quite legally parked our cars in the lane outside our houses.
However, we staggered the cars so that they were parked on both sides of the road and needless to say the coach couldn't manoeuvre its way down the lane.     All perfectly legal of course.     ;)
Food for thought Nemesis.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 25, 2015, 05:57:22 pm
The only time the police actually turned up, the little short P.C. accused my OH of being stroppy ! Bet he'd be annoyed if he couldn't use his car !

Years ago we had the same problem, in those days I drove a Jag and a traffic warden told my OH that his wife could get her car out, inferring that women were rotten drivers and must drive a small car. His face was a picture when I drove up and he promptly booked the offending car.
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Post by: Michael on May 25, 2015, 08:49:04 pm
   Nemesis --- I could just imagine you in a Jag. OOOhhhh
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on May 25, 2015, 09:41:51 pm
CCBC cannot sort out Mostyn Champneys traffic chaoes every weekend so don/t expect them to sort out one little weekend.

Savills employ a car park "management" company at Mostyn Champneys so why not get them to sort out the problems with the car park.  And I don't expect CCBC to sort out the chaos caused by the airshow, it's up to the organisers to pay for that not council tax payers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on May 26, 2015, 01:58:23 am
CCBC cannot sort out Mostyn Champneys traffic chaoes every weekend so don/t expect them to sort out one little weekend.

Savills employ a car park "management" company at Mostyn Champneys so why not get them to sort out the problems with the car park.  And I don't expect CCBC to sort out the chaos caused by the airshow, it's up to the organisers to pay for that not council tax payers.

There is no problem with the car park, I've never had a problem parking there.
The problem is with the whole traffic layout, around MC, Asda and Parc Llandudno, and that is not Savills problem.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 26, 2015, 11:47:06 am
   Nemesis --- I could just imagine you in a Jag. OOOhhhh

Nay Mike----------------We've had 5 over the last 25 years !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on May 26, 2015, 03:56:23 pm
CCBC cannot sort out Mostyn Champneys traffic chaoes every weekend so don/t expect them to sort out one little weekend.

Savills employ a car park "management" company at Mostyn Champneys so why not get them to sort out the problems with the car park.  And I don't expect CCBC to sort out the chaos caused by the airshow, it's up to the organisers to pay for that not council tax payers.

There is no problem with the car park, I've never had a problem parking there.
The problem is with the whole traffic layout, around MC, Asda and Parc Llandudno, and that is not Savills problem.

The problem is with Llandudno as a whole, and in particular it's geography.  It's located on an isthmus and consequently has inadequate transportation routes in and out of the town centre and that's unlikely ever to change short of demolishing several housing estates to build new roads.  Mostyn Champneys, Parc Llandudno and Asda are located in places that will always suffer traffic problems at peak times and tweaking the road layouts won't solve those problems.  The mistake was to allow two retail parks and a superstore to be constructed in such an inappropriate location in the first place.  The traffic problems have existed for as long as I can remember so why were Asda and Parc Llandudno allowed to go ahead when it must have been obvious they were going to make matters worse?

I would also add that I've never had a significant problem with the traffic layout around Mostyn Champneys, maybe because I use my loaf and stay away at peak times.  I've had to queue for a few minutes to get in or out but that hardly unique to Mostyn Champneys or Llandudno - try visiting the Grand Junction Retail Park in Crewe on a Saturday afternoon.  Like Mostyn Champneys the Grand Junction site is far to close to the town centre which causes traffic to clog up around the entrance/exit.  Putting a retail park in a town centre is a recipe for disaster, what a shame Savills didn't work that out before deciding where to locate Mostyn Champneys  :roll:.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 26, 2015, 07:10:04 pm
  There is of course a very different side to this coin. Llandudno were fortunate inasmuch as there was available land for large store construction virtually tacked on to the end of the main shopping street.
  So what do you want? A so called out of town shopping development within easy walking distance of the main shopping area. Or an out of town shopping estate well and truly out of town but no traffic problems. But don't complain about the death of the high street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on May 26, 2015, 11:30:31 pm
As Mike eluded to, Savills got a great site for their retail park.

Does it deter visitors..no.
Do intelligent locals know all the tricks of getting in and out relatively quickly, I do.
Are Savills concerned about the traffic chaos at times....no, because it's still busy and they are making money.

It's a big win for Savills.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 27, 2015, 06:49:46 pm
Here's my story on seagull photobomb at Llandudno Air Show - I think it was trying to show off: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-photographers-snap-seagull-9341911 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-photographers-snap-seagull-9341911)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Barney Baker on May 27, 2015, 08:41:39 pm
Here is the original picture that started all this, not done with a fancy DSLR but an I phone :o :P
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Post by: Barney Baker on May 27, 2015, 08:44:29 pm
She's also available to sign any copies for a small fee (all proceeds go to the Three Legged Blind seagull charity
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Post by: hollins on May 27, 2015, 09:23:18 pm
I'm glad you put that one on here. I have enjoyed them all but I wasn't sure if it was okay to lift them from the facebook page.
Well done to the photographer!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on May 28, 2015, 05:43:55 pm
Sorry to be pedantic, but there really is no bird species called "seagull".
They are, more than likely, herring gulls.

It shouldn't bother me, but it does ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 28, 2015, 07:39:34 pm
They probably do not eat herring, a more suitable name would be , chip, ice cream , sandwich gull!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 28, 2015, 07:50:16 pm
Sorry to correct you ,but their is such a thing as a seagull they are of the family laridae they are most closely related to the turns .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 28, 2015, 08:36:40 pm
   Hav'ent a clue, herring or sea. All I know is that wasps and these other feathered things are just about the only creatures in God's kingdom that I hate.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on May 29, 2015, 12:27:58 am
Sorry to correct you ,but their is such a thing as a seagull they are of the family laridae they are most closely related to the turns .

oh dear, here we go again...

"The word seagull is actually an informal way of referring to any of the species that belong to the family Laridae, the gulls. There is not actually a single species called the seagull."

Click here... (http://www.rspb.org.uk/makeahomeforwildlife/advice/expert/previous/seagulls.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on May 29, 2015, 08:51:56 am
They probably do not eat herring, a more suitable name would be , chip, ice cream , sandwich gull!  ;D

Nice one
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 03, 2015, 07:10:48 am
Althought it seems Llandudno has a lot going on nothing is,Tudno Castle appears to have stalled,Washington never seems to be getting anywhere and the Grand Theatre is anybody;s guess.With the loss of our investigating officer Oscar all has gone quiet,at least when Oscar was alive we knew we had a town council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2015, 08:53:20 am
Stay tuned for big news involving the Pier Pavilion site....
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Post by: Greyhound on June 03, 2015, 09:53:33 am
Oh Dave, how tantalising! When can we expect to hear this news. Most of us have been waiting for 20 years, how long are you going to tease us for now? ha ha
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2015, 10:10:28 am
Oh Dave, how tantalising! When can we expect to hear this news. Most of us have been waiting for 20 years, how long are you going to tease us for now? ha ha
All I know is that I believe a Planning Application is finally going to be submitted for the site in the very near future.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 03, 2015, 12:24:53 pm
Indeed mate,  that is true, but there is no guarantee whatsoever that it will be accepted.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2015, 12:30:08 pm
Indeed, but it will be the first time in 20+ years that a Planning Application has been submitted for that site, so certainly a significant development.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 03, 2015, 12:34:41 pm
I thought that the 'Pyramid style hotel design had been submitted, and rejected, about 4 years ago?

Maybe it never got that far?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2015, 12:51:59 pm
No, it was never formally submitted, after informal discussions with CCBC indicated it would have no chance of success.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 03, 2015, 01:26:53 pm
I thought that the 'Pyramid style hotel design had been submitted, and rejected, about 4 years ago?
Maybe it never got that far?

I was surprised to see a reference to a "Hotel"....is this likely to be part of the application?.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 03, 2015, 03:18:59 pm
I thought that the 'Pyramid style hotel design had been submitted, and rejected, about 4 years ago?
Maybe it never got that far?

I was surprised to see a reference to a "Hotel"....is this likely to be part of the application?.
The site owners came up with a design for a 200 bedroom hotel, that resembled a glass pyramid, a couple of years back. It was widely ridiculed and they never bothered to submit a formal application.

I wouldn't be surprised if a hotel figures significantly in any current application.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on June 03, 2015, 03:24:44 pm
Laser quest
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 03, 2015, 03:32:04 pm
Thanks Dave......We will have to wait and see.....B2R thought about starting one yourself, try a donation appeal on Facebook, all the rage.... ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on June 06, 2015, 04:44:33 pm
The Pavilion site was included in the Hotel Habitation Zone for the first time as part of CCBC's latest Local Development Plan. There are still very many strict conditions that have to be complied with before any formal planning application could be considered, but Just think of the fun the Hotel Owners on North Parade are going to have with the planners, if any new development is given permission to have Double Glazing.  >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 06, 2015, 05:14:22 pm
Or  UPVC  windows!     
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 07, 2015, 11:33:55 am
Llandudno's Alice in Wonderland statue in a 'terrible' state claims councillor


A row has erupted amid claims Llandudno’s famous White Rabbit statue is being neglected in a depot pending repair work.

The sculpture – a Grade II listed object which was originally unveiled on the town’s West Shore in 1933 by Prime Minister David Lloyd George – is undergoing renovation after being vandalised.

It was removed for repairs in 2012 and is due to be relocated to the grounds of the town’s Victorian tram shelter nearby.

But Llandudno Town Councillor Carol Marubbi said she was “shocked” to find the statue still in storage at a Conwy County Borough Council nursery in Colwyn Bay.

Cllr Marubbi, who inspected the statue with two other councillors recently, said the model was in a “terrible” state and had moss growing on it after being left unprotected from the elements.

She told the Daily Post: “It was infuriating. I was shocked. It is a big issue to Llandudno. Look at the money spent on the Alice Trail and wooden statues around the town and yet the marble White Rabbit Statue was in a terrible state left in a yard. It deserves more respect.”

MORE DETAILS AND PHOTOS....
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/alice-wonderland-llandudno-statue-rabbit-9399045 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/alice-wonderland-llandudno-statue-rabbit-9399045)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2015, 09:20:07 am
It was removed for repairs in 2012
3 years later and no work has even started?  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2015, 10:37:31 am
The current state of the Alice Statue. Photo courtesy Daily Post.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 10, 2015, 07:00:12 am
Omg somebody has put a picture up on facebook of our new police station and it has not gone down well,looks like it belongs on Colwyn prom,how can they knock down such a nice building and shove a tin hut there,some heads need to roll if this gets the go ahead,CCBC or FIFA.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on June 10, 2015, 09:06:51 am
Wrex, I don't think you can blame CCBC in this instance, much as I know you love to. Bodies like the Police, rail companies etc. are usually exempt from needing planning permission as statutory undertakers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2015, 10:14:50 am
This is a computer mockup of the proposed new Police Station:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 10, 2015, 10:18:43 am
Sneak preview of new £2.75m police station

This is a first sneak preview of what the new eco-friendly police station in Llandudno will look like.

The £2.75 million development has been sanctioned by North Wales Police and Crime Commissioner Winston Roddick CB QC.

The old brick-built police station in Oxford Road isn't fit for purpose and replacing it is part of  the Commissioner's five year Estate Strategy.
The premises were previously a Divisional Headquarters and had a custody suite that was decommissioned in 2004.
Officers and staff will be moving to a temporary police station a few hundred metres away in Argyle Road on June 23.
The force already has planning permission to demolish the existing station and they have begun the consultation process over the plans.
MORE...http://www.north-wales.police.uk/news-and-appeals/llandudno-redevelopment-of-station.aspx (http://www.north-wales.police.uk/news-and-appeals/llandudno-redevelopment-of-station.aspx)
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Post by: Greyhound on June 10, 2015, 10:36:24 am
I don't actually mind it. Bear in mind it's a Police Station and I don't think this is in the Conservation Area (or if it is it must be on the very edge). I think a bit of modern architecture might work well. Not everything can be a pastiche design with a few upv moulding and columns stuck on the front to make it look 'Victorian'.
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Post by: Fester on June 10, 2015, 02:34:03 pm
I actually don't care what it looks like, I just wonder whether they will ever have it open, or have someone actually behind the counter?

In fact, the current one is so seldom used, why not have the Police Station in a 6ft by 6ft kiosk outside Wetherspoons?
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Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2015, 08:00:50 pm
In fact, the current one is so seldom used, why not have the Police Station in a 6ft by 6ft kiosk outside Wetherspoons?
I think they should move it to that little disused bus information kiosk outside Take A Break. :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
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Post by: Nemesis on June 10, 2015, 09:33:00 pm
Good idea Dave.........time something happened to it !
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Post by: wrex on June 13, 2015, 11:48:23 pm
Just had a nice meal in the Station Colwyn Bay,arrived early had a walk around a drink in the Royal first and all i can say is thank god i live in Llandudno...
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Post by: SteveH on June 15, 2015, 02:09:27 pm
Llandudno sculptor looks forward to restoring town's iconic White Rabbit statue

A North Wales sculptor has spoken of his pride at being given the job of restoring Llandudno’s iconic White Rabbit statue.
Nick Elphick vowed to return the statue in his home town to “perfect condition”, and appealed to the grandson of the rabbit’s original designer to come forward with plans which may help the work.

The Grade II listed statue was unveiled by former Prime Minister David Lloyd George at West Shore in 1933.
After being vandalised, it was removed for repairs by Conwy County Borough Council three years ago.

But there was an outcry when three Llandudno town councillors checked on it and found it unprotected against the elements in a municipal yard in Colwyn Bay.
Cllr Carol Marubbi said she was “shocked” to find the statue in a “terrible state” in storage at the Conwy County Borough Council nursery.
Within days, it had been delivered to Mr Elphick’s studio on Builder Street near Llandudno Police Station.
He said: “I’m well chuffed I’ve got this job. I’m really proud.
“I have trained all my life for this and I can recarve marble. I know what I’m doing. It’ll be perfect.”
But he admitted: “I’m under pressure. This is a big part of Llandudno’s history.”
Mr Elphick, who has a number of other commissions, expects the work to take several months.

He appealed for a descendant of the statue’s original designer to come forward.
He said: “I went to the gym the other day and bumped into this lad. We got talking and he said: ‘My Grandad sculpted that. We still have original drawings in the attic. I’ll give you a call.’
“But he disappeared and I’ve not heard from him.”
Mr Elphick asked the man to get in touch at his studio.

The restored White Rabbit statue will eventually be placed at the tram shelter on Gloddaeth Street.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-sculptor-looks-forward-restoring-9456428 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-sculptor-looks-forward-restoring-9456428)
 &shake&
Although an important part of llandudno's history, it would be interesting to know the cost of this restoration.......Also if the proposed move to the tram shelter is considered secure enough, bearing in mind the previous vandalism.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on June 15, 2015, 10:41:10 pm
I hope it lasts well on it new site at the tram shelter but I don't think it will
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Post by: born2run on June 16, 2015, 11:18:29 am
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/frank-turner-play-llandudnos-venue-9458929 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/frank-turner-play-llandudnos-venue-9458929)

Venue Cymru are starting to turn it around - a host of quality acts lately
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Post by: SteveH on June 17, 2015, 11:39:14 am
CRICKET CLUB: An overheated florescent light fitting filled the kitchen of a cricket club with smoke.
Firefighters were called to Llandudno Cricket Club on The Oval just after 7.38am this morning.
Two crews from the town attended to find a light fixture had overheated.
Some smoke and heat damage was caused to the building.refDP.


CRASH: Reports of accident on A546 Gloddaeth Street around York Road.
CRASH: Police say the crash in Gloddaeth Strett, Llandudno is not serious. No injuries are believed to have been reported.DP
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Post by: born2run on June 17, 2015, 12:03:53 pm
This fire at the cricket club has really knocked them for six



 $thanx$
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Post by: SteveH on June 17, 2015, 12:08:56 pm
At least they are not playing for the ashes..... :)
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Post by: DaveR on June 17, 2015, 12:34:29 pm
Now you're being silly (mid off)  :laugh:
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Post by: snowcap on June 17, 2015, 11:12:48 pm
those last three posts had me bowled over.
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Post by: Ian on June 18, 2015, 07:07:55 am
Indeed.  Wicketly funny, one might say....
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Post by: Tom Davidson on June 18, 2015, 02:43:52 pm
cricket.
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Post by: Dave on June 18, 2015, 10:09:50 pm
The net result is it's past me bye , don't understand the joke, it's over.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 22, 2015, 10:59:49 pm
On Bryniau rd near Trinity ave and next to the taxi rank on Gloddaeth st CCBC seem to have covered something in the middle of the road,quite bizzar.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 27, 2015, 04:43:27 pm
Mrs H. and I stopped for coffee this afternoon, in Madoc St. sitting outside very pleasant, we were joined by a couple from Leeds, had a chat, as you do, they told us they were here for the Elkie Brooks show at VC tonight and that they were part of a two coach party approx 80 people on a National Coach weekend break ( arrive Friday lunch, stay at the Grand, tickets to the show and leave after lunch on Sunday) with free time for shopping etc. approx £100 each.............We both thought this was a great deal, and very good for Llandudno...........and they said it was their first trip here in a long time but liked it so much they would be back soon........so well done to who ever organised the trip..........(give anybody any ideas)     $good$
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Post by: systema on June 27, 2015, 09:29:55 pm
We did the same kind of thing and bought our lovely new house opposite the Snowden pub within 5 mins of viewing it.  What more do you want -- M & S down the road plus  a  £1 shop :-)  We loveit here in lLlandudno
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 28, 2015, 03:56:27 pm
Omg my water feature in the Happy Valley is empty,ok i should;nt be suprised,bloody CCBC are so useless at looking after Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 29, 2015, 12:01:20 am
Two guys fighting outside The 147 Club at about 6.30pm, and it spilled over to where the fence is for Home Cookin'

About 7pm, another scrap outside Cooney's saw two blokes battering each other, whilst another man plus the wives got embroiled, and they fought their way up the street, again finishing up outside Home Cookin'
The main man who tried to intervene and break it up was chatting to me straight after, and his face was more injured than the protagonists! 
Police cars turned up some minutes later, had a brief glimpse, and drove off.

My over riding feeling throughout was, how lovely for those diners inside and outside Home Cookin!  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2015, 07:57:02 am
No wonder it is quiet there in the evenings! I can't see many visitors wanting to be around for that!  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 30, 2015, 07:31:54 am
Today we should reach 26C. Tomorrow is slightly cooler, although that's not what BBC weather is saying, since all their generalisations about weather are for the SE....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2015, 08:46:51 am
Two guys fighting outside The 147 Club at about 6.30pm, and it spilled over to where the fence is for Home Cookin'

About 7pm, another scrap outside Cooney's saw two blokes battering each other, whilst another man plus the wives got embroiled, and they fought their way up the street, again finishing up outside Home Cookin'
The main man who tried to intervene and break it up was chatting to me straight after, and his face was more injured than the protagonists! 
Police cars turned up some minutes later, had a brief glimpse, and drove off.

My over riding feeling throughout was, how lovely for those diners inside and outside Home Cookin!  &shake&
This is what happens when people are allowed to drink aimlessly all day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on June 30, 2015, 08:59:58 am
We have just returned from a trip to Spain, where the licencing  laws are very liberal, and on this trip, as every other to the continent,  we saw no violence - hover,  that being said, the state of some of the other British airline passengers, both male and female, suggested a potential for problems. 
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Post by: DaveR on June 30, 2015, 09:04:01 am
We have just returned from a trip to Spain, where the licencing  laws are very liberal, and on this trip, as every other to the continent,  we saw no violence - hover,  that being said, the state of some of the other British airline passengers, both male and female, suggested a potential for problems.
I agree. There seems to be something about certain sections of British society that means they can't handle alcohol.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 30, 2015, 11:45:29 am
Two guys fighting outside The 147 Club at about 6.30pm, and it spilled over to where the fence is for Home Cookin'

About 7pm, another scrap outside Cooney's saw two blokes battering each other, whilst another man plus the wives got embroiled, and they fought their way up the street, again finishing up outside Home Cookin'
The main man who tried to intervene and break it up was chatting to me straight after, and his face was more injured than the protagonists! 
Police cars turned up some minutes later, had a brief glimpse, and drove off.

My over riding feeling throughout was, how lovely for those diners inside and outside Home Cookin!  &shake&
This is what happens when people are allowed to drink aimlessly all day.

In 2016, I intend to join them!  Z**
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Post by: Ian on June 30, 2015, 12:41:50 pm
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I agree. There seems to be something about certain sections of British society that means they can't handle alcohol.

I suspect it's more to do with the culture here. It's not considered good to be utterly incapable through alcohol anywhere on the Continent, but here it's almost a mark of achievement.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on June 30, 2015, 12:45:04 pm
Whilst the behaviour of 'stag' and 'hen parties' has been a cause of concern for some time, (especially in Tenby, which seems to actively encourage them), one disturbing aspect of this trip was the lengths one 'hen party' went to shock with printed 't' shirts. Now, these females were not all silly teens, there as many were middle aged women as teens, and possibly mothers and daughters in the party and they were all wearing black 't' shirts with slogans, such as 'Anal Loving Annie', 'C** All Over Me Amy', 'Co*k Sucking Sue' etc., I'm sure that you have got the theme. We were actually surprised the airline let them on the plane to travel with families with children.

I have to suggest that in the UK that these would represent an offence under the Public Order Act 1936 (causing alarm or distress) but they were truly repugnant and I hope never to see the like in Llandudno.

But, the thin end of the wedge......
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 30, 2015, 01:11:36 pm
You didn't get any of those girls phone numbers for me did you Bosun?   Just asking....   ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on June 30, 2015, 01:15:45 pm
No chance.       

(Mrs B dragged me away..........)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on June 30, 2015, 01:38:49 pm
Whilst the behaviour of 'stag' and 'hen parties' has been a cause of concern for some time, (especially in Tenby, which seems to actively encourage them), one disturbing aspect of this trip was the lengths one 'hen party' went to shock with printed 't' shirts. Now, these females were not all silly teens, there as many were middle aged women as teens, and possibly mothers and daughters in the party and they were all wearing black 't' shirts with slogans, such as 'Anal Loving Annie', 'C** All Over Me Amy', 'Co*k Sucking Sue' etc., I'm sure that you have got the theme. We were actually surprised the airline let them on the plane to travel with families with children.

I have to suggest that in the UK that these would represent an offence under the Public Order Act 1936 (causing alarm or distress) but they were truly repugnant and I hope never to see the like in Llandudno.

But, the thin end of the wedge......

They don't sound like Llandudno visitors at all  $walesflag$ 'Werther's original sucking Ivy' 'Bingo loving Rita' 'Nice cup of tea and biscuits all over me Annie'   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 30, 2015, 04:51:58 pm
Looks like the temperature is set to peak today, with a gradual decline over the next week. However, there's a Met Office severe weather warning out for tomorrow regarding intense thunderstorms.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 01, 2015, 08:52:19 am
Two guys fighting outside The 147 Club at about 6.30pm, and it spilled over to where the fence is for Home Cookin'

About 7pm, another scrap outside Cooney's saw two blokes battering each other, whilst another man plus the wives got embroiled, and they fought their way up the street, again finishing up outside Home Cookin'
The main man who tried to intervene and break it up was chatting to me straight after, and his face was more injured than the protagonists! 
Police cars turned up some minutes later, had a brief glimpse, and drove off.

My over riding feeling throughout was, how lovely for those diners inside and outside Home Cookin!  &shake&
This is what happens when people are allowed to drink aimlessly all day.

In 2016, I intend to join them!  Z**
&shake&  &shake&  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 03, 2015, 01:29:50 pm
The Waverley leaving Llandudno for a tour of Anglesey at around 1.00pm.
Heat haze not helping clarity of the photo!
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/380/19378800335_4518fe234e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwrqca)The Waverley   2015-07-03 (https://flic.kr/p/vwrqca) by Dave Williams (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131256186@N04/), on Flickr
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Post by: Fester on July 03, 2015, 02:11:09 pm
Not The Waverley mate, but a cracking picture nevertheless.

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Post by: Dave on July 03, 2015, 02:56:03 pm
It's a long way from our house ! Who is sailing today then ?
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Post by: DVT on July 03, 2015, 02:59:01 pm
Looks like it's the Balmoral - now off Puffin Island (3 o'clock) ...

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home)
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Post by: SteveH on July 03, 2015, 03:10:54 pm
Looks like it's the Balmoral - now off Puffin Island (3 o'clock) ...

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/home)

Marinetraffic saying destination Llandudno   3 min's ago
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Post by: SteveH on July 03, 2015, 04:11:01 pm
Timetable   M.V. BALMORAL

Friday 3 July
Liverpool 0900**
Llandudno arr 1215
Llandudno dep 1245
Cruise past Puffin Island &
towards Menai Bridge
Llandudno arr 1530
Llandudno dep 1600
Liverpool 1930

Saturday 4 July
Liverpool 0900**
Llandudno arr 1215
Llandudno dep 1245
Cruise Great Orme & Anglesey
Coast towards RedWharf Bay
Llandudno arr 1530
Llandudno dep 1600
Liverpool 1930

Sunday 5 July
Llandudno 1015
Menai Bridge 1145
Caernarfon 1230
Cruise round Anglesey
Menai Bridge 1715
Coach return to Caernarfon
arrive 1800
Llandudno 1830
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 04, 2015, 03:31:29 pm
As i see it LLandudno right now is inbeetween either something good or some decline,everything is stagnent at the moment ,only one unit let in the Tudno Castle,no units let in the Travelodge and god knows what the Llandudno Bay hotel developers have planned for the Grand Theater.The good would be reopen Broadway and all units get let and rejuvenate the weekend nitelife,worse case they all stay abandoned.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 04, 2015, 04:55:13 pm
Mostyn St. is/was very busy this afternoon 4ish. .......looked like mostly visitors ? .........I did not see to many shopping bags, which made me think, why were they in Mostyn St. on such a nice day ?....

The other thing that stood out ...litter, the street was covered in napkins, religious pamphlets and coffee cup lids, I know it is windy but all it needs is an old fashioned "sweeper" or "pickerupper" (up one side down the other in a circuit) to easy..... :roll:
The "Wardens" have their camouflage summer uniform on now, white polo shirt, with microscopic embroidered lettering...... $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 05, 2015, 01:10:28 am
I was looking for the SCUM thread for this.... but couldn't find it??

I was on my way to work today when this delightful chap decided to let his dog curl out a lovely pile on the pavement (clearly in view behind him on this pic) .....  and then he just walked off.
Fester was having NONE OF THIS BEHAVIOUR!!

I might be an old man, and I am not any kind of enforcement officer, but I am sick and tired of scum like this defouling this beautiful town.
So, I challenged him, politely to get it picked up.    He gave me the 'middle finger', a brave man!
My wife then 'urged' him to do as asked.... and he shouted a few choice swear words at her.

Sorry to say that at that point, the red mist descended for me.
He cried that he was having a 'bad day', ... well, I warned him it was only early, and about to go downhill I'm afraid!
 
Let's just say, (missing out the unsavoury detail)  that subsequently, over the next few minutes, he got the mess cleaned up, and I was a few minutes late for work....

Why Oh why should anti-social SCUM like this be even allowed to own a dog????
Watch out for vermin like this, they are all around us!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2015, 06:08:01 am
Well done, too much of this anti social behaviour going on!  $good$
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Post by: norman08 on July 05, 2015, 09:16:04 am
Well done fester ,the bags only cost .99p for 3  rolls in home bargain ,mind how can the lazy scum pick it up when he has 2drinks for himself not one for the poor dog ,they shouldn't,t have a dog .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 05, 2015, 09:23:49 am
Today, the Sunday Times names the 50 Best British Beaches.

There is no place for Colwyn Bay but Llandudno is number 40.

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Post by: SteveH on July 05, 2015, 11:09:27 am
Well done Fester......I was offered this card and a pamphlet in the street the other day, so they are trying.........
The card gives you the number to report offenders......below......the pamphlet (4 pages) is the full list of doggy laws, if anyone wants the full list let me know.
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Post by: Ian on July 05, 2015, 11:24:03 am
That hi-viz vest makes him look vaguely 'official'. What was the logo on it, F?
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Post by: FatAndy on July 05, 2015, 11:25:06 am
Today, the Sunday Times names the 50 Best British Beaches.

There is no place for Colwyn Bay but Llandudno is number 40.

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I don't subscribe to the Sunday Times, and have no intention of doing so, but from the little bit of the article visible on their website isn't this the Best 50 REMOTE beaches?  Colwyn Bay may be a lot of things but I doubt anyone would consider it to be remote.  I also assume the Llandudno beach at number is West Shore, which is fair enough as it at least has toilet facilities available (even they don't always work). 

Perhaps someone who does pay to view a newspaper online might shine some light on this....

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/travel/Holidays/Beach/article1576302.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_07_04 (http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/travel/Holidays/Beach/article1576302.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_07_04)
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Post by: SteveH on July 05, 2015, 12:46:16 pm
Blue flag awards     Internationally recognised ecolabel, awarded to beaches and marinas for cleanliness, safety and high quality amenities.
Beaches at Colwyn bay,...... Rhos on Sea...... and Llandudno's West shore awarded Blue Flags.
Llandudno's North shore awarded Green Coast Award. 

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Post by: SteveH on July 05, 2015, 12:58:25 pm
LOOK: Llandudno's White Rabbit statue restored to its former glory by sculptor

These photographs show how an iconic statue has been painstakingly restored.

Llandudno sculptor Nick Elphick has revived the once vandalised White Rabbit figure, which is set to be located at a tram shelter in Gloddaeth Street.
The statue, a Grade II listed object, was originally unveiled by former Prime Minister David Lloyd George on West Shore back in 1933.
It was first placed near Pen Morfa, the now demolished holiday home of the family of Alice Liddell, who inspired Lewis Carroll’s classic book Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, which featured a white rabbit among its characters.

However, it was targeted by vandals, so council officials took it away in 2012 to a Conwy County Council yard in Colwyn Bay to be repaired.

But Llandudno Town Councillors Carol Marubbi and Angela O’Grady were dismayed last month to find it still there unprotected from the weather during an inspection.
Within days, it had been transported on a pallet to Mr Elphick’s Builder Street studio for some TLC.

Nick said: “It was an honour for Llandudno Town Council to give me this job. But it was also such a pressurised job because it is such an iconic part of Llandudno’s history.
“I really wanted to honour the original sculpture. There was a lot of public interest and I really didn’t want anyone to see it until I knew it was right.”
He said restoring the statue, which measures 1.87m from toe to ear tip, was a demanding commission.
“It was a stressful thing to do to match the marble and a very technical task. But now I’m happy with it and I hope that the people of Llandudno will be too.”
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-llandudnos-white-rabbit-statue-9587912 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-llandudnos-white-rabbit-statue-9587912)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 05, 2015, 01:00:40 pm
from the little bit of the article visible on their website isn't this the Best 50 REMOTE beaches?   

I haven’t a clue where you get REMOTE from.

I have the Travel section in front of me now and it clearly states on the front page – The 50 Best British Beaches - and it says the same on the next page.
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Post by: TheMedz on July 05, 2015, 01:11:52 pm
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40 Llandudno, Conwy
Alice Liddell, who inspired Lewis Carroll, holidayed in Llandudno, bolstering the newly fashionable resort’s claim to be a seaside wonderland. It’s home to the finest pier in Wales, now under the passionate ownership of Adam Williams, and you’ll find 75-year-old Phil Talbot offering donkey rides on the wide sands of West Shore. The town’s other attractions include candyfloss and ice cream — look out for the locally produced gourmet Chilly Cow brand — crazy golf and backstreets crammed with chichi cafes, food shops and boutiques. Looming above it all is Great Orme, rising 679ft above the Irish Sea. Take the tram up and watch out for the goats: they’re descendants of Queen Victoria’s Kashmiri herd.

Article gives 5 search criteria : Cafe or Pub; Dog Friendly, Parking at Beach, Remote and LifeGuard.  Llandudno is included under: Remote and Parking at the Beach
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Post by: TheMedz on July 05, 2015, 01:13:11 pm
That may of course only be the On-line version. Not read the paper yet.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 05, 2015, 01:50:08 pm
Well done fester ,the bags only cost .99p for 3  rolls in home bargain ,mind how can the lazy scum pick it up when he has 2drinks for himself not one for the poor dog ,they shouldn't,t have a dog .

Asda Smart Price Nappy Sacks 300 for less than 50p. Just as good and a decent size.
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Post by: FatAndy on July 05, 2015, 02:15:14 pm
from the little bit of the article visible on their website isn't this the Best 50 REMOTE beaches?   

I haven’t a clue where you get REMOTE from.

I have the Travel section in front of me now and it clearly states on the front page – The 50 Best British Beaches - and it says the same on the next page.

The little bit of their website that you can view without paying says - "best British beaches: remote".    Maybe the print version has a different top 50?

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/travel/Holidays/Beach/article1576302.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_07_05 (http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/travel/Holidays/Beach/article1576302.ece?CMP=OTH-gnws-standard-2015_07_05)
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Post by: Fester on July 05, 2015, 07:17:08 pm
That hi-viz vest makes him look vaguely 'official'. What was the logo on it, F?

I couldn't make it out Ian, but I do believe he had nicked it from somewhere.
You see he was living in one of those half-way house, or community type housing projects on the lower slopes of The Orme.
I only know this, because I went in there with him, hoping to speak to someone responsible.
He was the worse for drink, or drugs, or something....  certainly not an official of any kind.

Steve H,  thanks for that information, it seems like a very reasonable initiative.
I can't imagine he would be able to easily afford any fines though.  :( :(
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Post by: Michael on July 05, 2015, 08:07:34 pm
Hello themedz .Phil Talbot the donkey operator. You mention his age. Nothing special about that, youngsters have to start up sometime
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 05, 2015, 08:38:27 pm
Hello themedz .Phil Talbot the donkey operator. You mention his age. Nothing special about that, youngsters have to start up sometime

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:   Nice one Mike,  that did jump out at me too!    $good$ $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on July 05, 2015, 11:22:37 pm
well done fes. was that a deodorant can in his left hand for when the dog goes?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 06, 2015, 08:31:27 am
Hello themedz .Phil Talbot the donkey operator. You mention his age. Nothing special about that, youngsters have to start up sometime

Mike/Fester Sorry if I didn't make it clear but what I showed was, in response to FatAndy's request for it, was the full extract from the Sunday Times article on beaches and not my own comments. I suppose I should have put it in quotation marks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2015, 08:35:18 am
Happy to oblige.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on July 07, 2015, 08:21:11 am
               As I cycled past the recently-painted West Shore Bus Terminus this morning at about 0745 there was a large crane lifting the base on which the newly-restored White Rabbit Statue will stand onto the new plinth which has been constructed on the grass to the North-East of the terminus. They had just placed the base on the plinth as I was passing and I could see the statue nearby ready to be lifted into palace, but I did not see any sign of the "cage" which protected it (or not!) before on the old site. I was under the impression that the statue was going to be situated inside the terminus for security but I suppose it will  better out in the open where CCTV can monitor it, provided the cage is in place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 07, 2015, 08:38:30 am
That old cage looked awful and didn't really do much to protect the statue. Hopefully having it in a more visible location will help deter vandalism.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 07, 2015, 12:34:14 pm
That old cage looked awful and didn't really do much to protect the statue. Hopefully having it in a more visible location will help deter vandalism.

I do not think it will, it would not take much to damage it beyond repair, there must be a more secure, yet public site available .........any ideas ?...... &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 07, 2015, 12:37:42 pm
That old cage looked awful and didn't really do much to protect the statue. Hopefully having it in a more visible location will help deter vandalism.

I do not think it will, it would not take much to damage it beyond repair, there must be a more secure, yet public site available .........any ideas ?...... &shake&

I always thought it should be situated on the roundabout on North Parade, by The St Tudno Hotel.
Very visible, very touristy, and looked on from all sides.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 07, 2015, 02:06:57 pm
Put it on the pier, I've heard it is quiet there.  :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on July 07, 2015, 10:38:49 pm
How slow is your BT Internet connection now ?  We have been in Asia for a few months then Nottingham for 3 weeks and now back home to Llanddno and find the connection so slow I could read a book whilst waiting.  We have a home in Spain where the internet is voted the most expensive and slowest in the world but North Wales will soon be overtaking it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 07, 2015, 11:39:20 pm
You can always upgrade to superfast broadband.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on July 08, 2015, 06:25:50 pm
I did suggest inside the Railway Station. It would be a great welcome for visitors.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 08, 2015, 06:46:14 pm
and it shuts at 3pm so the vandals would have to smash the doors to get at it
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on July 08, 2015, 06:59:10 pm
1700 in July and August wrex.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 11, 2015, 03:54:36 pm
The other thing that stood out ...litter, the street was covered in napkins, religious pamphlets and coffee cup lids, I know it is windy but all it needs is an old fashioned "sweeper" or "pickerupper" (up one side down the other in a circuit) to easy..... :roll:
I saw a TV prog. the other day, showing a council team, early in the morning, pressure washing difficult areas* in the High St, ready for the day.

Areas* around waste bins, under benches ,street lights ,chewing gum etc.(ring a bell)

It has been said that there is not enough bins, and what we have are normally full, but they are in dire need of a clean such as above, as are the other areas mentioned.............. $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 12, 2015, 06:47:16 pm
That old cage looked awful and didn't really do much to protect the statue. Hopefully having it in a more visible location will help deter vandalism.
I do not think it will, it would not take much to damage it beyond repair, there must be a more secure, yet public site available


The Mayor of Llandudno has appealed for vandals to stay away after officially unveiling the town’s repaired White Rabbit statue      &shake&


The Mayor of Llandudno has appealed for the town's new look White Rabbit statue to be respected.
On Saturday, it was relocated to land beside a former tram shelter in Gloddaeth Street.
The marble figure, inspired by Lewis Carroll’s 150-year-old classic book Alice in Wonderland, had been at West Shore but was vandalised.

It was recently repaired by Llandudno sculptor Nick Elphick after having been removed in 2012.
The unveiling came at a ceremony attended by the Mayor of Llandudno Cllr Frank Bradfield, the Town Crier Billy Baxter and this year’s Miss Alice - Sarah McEwan, eight.

Cllr Bradfield said: “It has been well worth the wait. I marvel at the artistry of Nick Elphick in repairing the statue.

Characters from the Alice in Wonderland books held a tea party to celebrate the unveiling of the statue
“I don’t believe it would be sufficiently protected by a barrier. But if parents told their children about the value of the statue to the town, and the Alice in Wonderland story, perhaps people will respect the statue and leave it there.”
Originally unveiled by former Prime Minister David Lloyd George in 1933, it had previously been near and in a pond surrounded by a cage, yet was still vulnerable to yobs damaging it.

The Mayor said he was pleased to see its importance recognised by the presence of Aberconwy MP Guto Bebb, Aberconwy AM Janet Finch-Saunders and North Wales AM Janet Haworth. Also present was Conwy County Borough Council chairman Cllr Liz Roberts.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-llandudnos-iconic-white-rabbit-9640116 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-llandudnos-iconic-white-rabbit-9640116)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 12, 2015, 06:50:43 pm
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I always thought it should be situated on the roundabout on North Parade, by The St Tudno Hotel.
Very visible, very touristy, and looked on from all sides.

Good idea.  Or the Train station.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 14, 2015, 09:26:01 pm
Don;t forget aug 22 Llandudno fc will be live on S4C 5 15 first ever match to be screened live from Llandudno,if you can;t make it down to Maesdu park then at least support the tv viewing figures.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on July 16, 2015, 04:34:30 pm
You can always upgrade to superfast broadband.


We are on superfast broadband or at least that is what we pay for. Have been in touch with BT Mumbai but that is just a big waste of time, done all the things they asked us to do re moving the router,  cleaning up the machine, emptied the cache and using an ethernet cable - still as bad - what a waste of money.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on July 16, 2015, 04:38:01 pm
You can always upgrade to superfast broadband.


We are on superfast broadband or at least that is what we pay for. Have been in touch with BT Mumbai but that is just a big waste of time, done all the things they asked us to do re moving the router,  cleaning up the machine, emptied the cache and using an ethernet cable - still as bad - what a waste of money.



Have you done a speed test to see what speeds you're actually getting?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 16, 2015, 04:39:27 pm
Is the Router plugged into the Master BT Socket?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2015, 12:34:37 pm
POLL: Senior figures claim traffic trouble a danger to businesses and tourism in Llandudno

TROUBLESOME traffic problems are a threat to businesses and tourism in Llandudno, it has been claimed.

A number of issued have been raised in the midst of the busy summer season, with civic councillor David Hampson claiming to have received number of complaints from concerned residents and tourists over the behaviour of traffic wardens.

He said: “I’m embarrassed by the scale of this trade and overwhelmed by the level of complaints people have brought to my attention.
“This way of bleeding tourists will ultimately be Llandudno’s downfall.
“Surely it's about educating the public, with clear signs placed through out the town.
"Punishing them in the pocket is a backwards step, its almost a Victorian punishment.”
That's three generations of potential tourist income lost forever,” he added.

Another problem highlighted are the parking charges on the town’s high street, which Aberconwy Assembly Member Janet Finch-Saunders raised recently in the Senedd.
She said: “As chair of the Cross Party Group on Shops the issue of parking charges on the high street remain a huge problem for business owners when having to compete with out of town development centres.
“Local authorities should not use parking charges as a revenue income stream to the detriment of our small local businesses and high streets.”

Edwina Hart, Minister for Economy, Science and Transport said she would be holding talks with the Minister for Local Government and Planning to raise these concerns.

Cllr Ronnie Hughes, deputy leader at Conwy County Council, said he is aware of the problems and various letters have been sent to council departments regarding the issue.
He said: “The traffic wardens seem to be focusing on Mostyn Street and while I have seen buses getting away with murder, and it is the motorists who seem to be suffering.”
Poll...http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/150442/poll-senior-figures-claim-traffic-trouble-a-danger-to-businesses-and-tourism-in-llandudno.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/150442/poll-senior-figures-claim-traffic-trouble-a-danger-to-businesses-and-tourism-in-llandudno.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on July 18, 2015, 01:38:00 pm
I read this in the paper the other day and didn't understand the statement "parking charges on the high street".

There are no parking charges on Mostyn Street or is it referring to parking fines for people over staying their allotted time?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2015, 02:48:10 pm
I must admit when I saw the headline I expected complaints about the A55 or other road traffic problems, and not the traffic wardens...their statement seems strange “Surely it's about educating the public, with clear signs placed through out the town."  I am sure we are no different than any other town? .       I am wondering if there is confusion over which wardens they are or should be discussing,       in fact if you look at the article, the comments by  Councillor David Hampson do not refer to traffic wardens at all, I think these complaints are about the the "Rubbish" wardens, and if so it is about time, but a shame for the mix up........... &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on July 18, 2015, 05:38:13 pm
Dozens of Subaru Impreza's heading into Llandudno at the mo' with a camera van etc...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2015, 05:46:03 pm
"Rubbish" wardens.......... I spotted them twice this afternoon in Mostyn St. first time standing chatting with their backs to the wall, second time sitting outside the library again with their backs to the seat, both times they just look like two men having a chat.

Bearing in mind their summer uniform is a Polo shirt with very small print on the back, this is the definition of an ambush waiting to happen.

SDQ.......Just saw about a dozen going past the house, nice sound.
                                                                         
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 18, 2015, 10:11:27 pm
Dozens of Subaru Impreza's heading into Llandudno at the mo' with a camera van etc...

What were they here for? Thought I was seeing things when they all drove past us !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mikethewatch on July 18, 2015, 10:56:14 pm
Dozens of Subaru Impreza's heading into Llandudno at the mo' with a camera van etc...

What were they here for? Thought I was seeing things when they all drove past us !

Drug dealers convention?
They do seem to be the vehicle of choice for that industry...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on July 18, 2015, 11:14:00 pm
Dozens of Subaru Impreza's heading into Llandudno at the mo' with a camera van etc...

What were they here for? Thought I was seeing things when they all drove past us !


http://www.seriesmcrae.com/ (http://www.seriesmcrae.com/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 20, 2015, 12:20:44 pm
POLL: Senior figures claim traffic trouble a danger to businesses and tourism in Llandudno

TROUBLESOME traffic problems are a threat to businesses and tourism in Llandudno, it has been claimed.

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Interesting. Conwy of course has the same if not worse problem. It's nigh impossible to park on the high street but I have noticed Bodlondeb is free in the week and usually free at weekends (the meter covered up) However on Pirate weekend it wasn't and for the first time I saw a warden patrolling there. Clearly a cash cow for them that weekend. The week after we also parked there and when we arrived around 10am the meter was covered up - when we got back at about 1 ish the meter was uncovered and people were paying. Fortunately we didn't get a ticket as it would have been impossible for us to have bought one at the time we arrived anyway so would have been contested.

Saying that in Cornwall it is IMPOSSIBLE to park anywhere near any high street for free and the parking charges are horrendous - Normally about 7/10 pound for over four hours. In St Ives you're lucky if you can park at all! I think we spent in or around £100 on parking the week we were there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on July 20, 2015, 08:27:28 pm
  Drug dealers have a vehicle of choice? I didn't know that. But then again as far as I know I don't know any drug dealers, so I would be hard put to know what they drive.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 22, 2015, 07:58:23 am
I was woken up at 5.24am this morning by what I think was a police helicopter arriving over C-y-D and circling around several times for six minutes.

Does anybody know what was going on so early?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 22, 2015, 08:37:19 am
Dreaming Bri
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 23, 2015, 12:05:14 pm
I was woken up at 5.24am this morning by what I think was a police helicopter arriving over C-y-D and circling around several times for six minutes.

Does anybody know what was going on so early?

Hey Bri, it was nice chatting with you and Mrs R last night.... interesting stuff!    *&(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 23, 2015, 02:30:04 pm
It certainly was, Fester.

You were very busy when we walked past earlier and so was the pier itself.

I am sure I saw John Craven intervewing your new landlord, Mr Adam Williams, further down with the cameras rolling. $good$

That should eventually prove to be good publicity for the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 23, 2015, 04:45:25 pm
Yes Bri.
BBC Countryfile filming on the Pier today.
The programme itself goes out in about 2 weeks.

The Pier was indeed very busy today, and about time too!

However, just how DEAD was town last night?
I stayed out until 10pm,  there was not a soul in Fountains as I went home, (but 5 staff)
Gresham and Lilly were closing up at 10pm.  Truly shocking.
Cooney's had 3 locals and 4 visitors in...... the visitors were 4 ladies from Stoke, who asked me where the best and busiest pubs were in the town.
Sadly, I had to inform them that they were IN THEM!!   
I took some pictures of the area at 10pm, but I know no one is really interested.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 23, 2015, 05:04:26 pm
It is a coincidence you saying that about Fountains later last night because I happened to comment to Mrs R that Fountains was absolutely empty both inside and out around midday today when we passed.

Mind you, so were most other places in Upper Mostyn Street around that time.

Worrying times.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 24, 2015, 12:25:10 pm
It is a coincidence you saying that about Fountains later last night because I happened to comment to Mrs R that Fountains was absolutely empty both inside and out around midday today when we passed.

Mind you, so were most other places in Upper Mostyn Street around that time.

Worrying times.

More worrying is look at the ages of those that go out on weeknights and before 9pm
Mainly old people - the younger generation only go out on Saturdays after 9 - they can't afford to do anything else.
There won't be any 'pubs' left by the time I'm Fester's age (40/50 years)

Worrying times
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 24, 2015, 11:48:11 pm
I spoke to the General Manager of a large hotel adjacent to the Grand Ash today.

He told me that many of the new 'residents' of The Grand Ash were leaving vehicles permanently on the double yellow lines outside.
So, urged by his own guest's complaints, he asked the Traffic Warden directly why nothing was being done.

The answer is truly shocking, and I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of what he says.

The Warden said he had been instructed to steer clear of that issue, and ignore the vehicles outside that establishment as his suoeriors had no wish to get involved in a messy or costly RACISM claim.    :o :o

This needs clarifying, investigating and sorting out immediately.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 25, 2015, 07:35:09 am
Meal deal for Upper Mostyn Street released today

http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/the-lilly-bar-grill?p=2&nlp=&CID=UK_CRM_1_0_0_206&a=2023&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&sid=e425cbc6-adb8-4856-9d4b-57ac24bd8285&division=chester&uh=b3ce6abb-d8a0-4e22-ad25-a54011ed4a66&date=20152507&sender=rm&s=body&c=link&d=deal-page&utm_campaign=the-lilly-bar-grill-69082489 (http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/the-lilly-bar-grill?p=2&nlp=&CID=UK_CRM_1_0_0_206&a=2023&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&sid=e425cbc6-adb8-4856-9d4b-57ac24bd8285&division=chester&uh=b3ce6abb-d8a0-4e22-ad25-a54011ed4a66&date=20152507&sender=rm&s=body&c=link&d=deal-page&utm_campaign=the-lilly-bar-grill-69082489)

Up to 55% off. 

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 25, 2015, 08:14:15 am
I spoke to the General Manager of a large hotel adjacent to the Grand Ash today.

He told me that many of the new 'residents' of The Grand Ash were leaving vehicles permanently on the double yellow lines outside.
So, urged by his own guest's complaints, he asked the Traffic Warden directly why nothing was being done.

The answer is truly shocking, and I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of what he says.

The Warden said he had been instructed to steer clear of that issue, and ignore the vehicles outside that establishment as his suoeriors had no wish to get involved in a messy or costly RACISM claim.    :o :o

This needs clarifying, investigating and sorting out immediately.   

Fester, can I ask if the warden spoken to was a North Wales Police Traffic Warden or a Conwy Council Warden/Enforcement Officer?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 25, 2015, 02:59:04 pm
If that is true about parking in front of the Grand Ash and after all you have heard it first hand then it is really disgusting.   What if the Travelling community or anyone else parked outside there what would the Wardens do then?   
It's discrimination of the wrong kind and unfair to the majority of motorists, whether we agree with the law or not.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 25, 2015, 03:37:38 pm
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If that is true about parking in front of the Grand Ash and after all you have heard it first hand then it is really disgusting.

That's a big 'If', Hugo. I find it extremely difficult to believe, frankly. And F didn't hear it first hand - he heard a third hand account from the Manager of a chat he'd had with a traffic warden. But this is easy to confirm, one way or another. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 25, 2015, 04:17:58 pm
I've just come off the 'phone with several councillors and not one has any idea what this is about. The Dunoon hotel also denies knowing anything about it. More news if I get any, later.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 25, 2015, 04:48:56 pm
I take it that the Bacon butty van won't be able to park outside all day then.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 25, 2015, 06:05:24 pm
I take it that the Bacon butty van won't be able to park outside all day then.

 L0L  L0L
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 25, 2015, 06:30:52 pm
Why would it be a problem booking a Jew rather than booking a muslim or a Hindu or a christian,silly quote it seems to me.Are the orthodox jews different to the rest of us besides their looks.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on July 25, 2015, 07:05:05 pm
Why would it be a problem booking a Jew rather than booking a muslim or a Hindu or a christian,silly quote it seems to me.Are the orthodox jews different to the rest of us besides their looks.

The Council had no trouble in fining a Jewish motorist well in excess of £800 because he persisted in driving down Church Walk the wrong way despite being warned not to do so. He then had the gall to say he had only done it once, until it was pointed out the photos taken from the Camera outside the Empire Hotel showed different Cars parked by the no entry sign in every photo.

In Israel you only have to take a written test to get a FULL Driving Licence. This is then accepted by the UK authorities who issue a Full UK Licence without any further test requirements. This is not an anti-Semitic statement but a factual one   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 25, 2015, 07:24:23 pm
Why would it be a problem booking a Jew rather than booking a muslim or a Hindu or a christian,silly quote it seems to me.Are the orthodox jews different to the rest of us besides their looks.

The Council had no trouble in fining a Jewish motorist well in excess of £800 because he persisted in driving down Church Walk the wrong way despite being warned not to do so. He then had the gall to say he had only done it once, until it was pointed out the photos taken from the Camera outside the Empire Hotel showed different Cars parked by the no entry sign in every photo.

In Israel you only have to take a written test to get a FULL Driving Licence. This is then accepted by the UK authorities who issue a Full UK Licence without any further test requirements. This is not an anti-Semitic statement but a factual one   

A simple Google search will show that is absolute rubbish.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 25, 2015, 07:52:41 pm
I've just come off the 'phone with several councillors and not one has any idea what this is about. The Dunoon hotel also denies knowing anything about it. More news if I get any, later.

Ian,  I have the FACTS for you.
You will have to PM me, and I will give you the full information.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 25, 2015, 08:32:27 pm
I'll do that.

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I spoke to the General Manager of a large hotel adjacent to the Grand Ash today.

He told me that many of the new 'residents' of The Grand Ash were leaving vehicles permanently on the double yellow lines outside.

But a local friend who lives there told me there are no double yellow lines outside the Grand Ash .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 25, 2015, 09:07:46 pm
Just had a look on Google Earth 2015  lots of parked cars, no yellow lines/ no signs on posts etc ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on July 25, 2015, 09:29:35 pm
   Just to add to the confusion. Be prepared for the name to be changed. "Grand Ash" was so named because it was owned by the group Grand U.K. of Norwich and all fifteen of their hotels were named Grand etc etc. And I can tell you from experience of the company who I worked for on and off for a number of years, they will not be happy about this and they will be pulling down the nameplates given half a chance
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 25, 2015, 09:50:43 pm
I'll do that.

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I spoke to the General Manager of a large hotel adjacent to the Grand Ash today.

He told me that many of the new 'residents' of The Grand Ash were leaving vehicles permanently on the double yellow lines outside.

But a local friend who lives there told me there are no double yellow lines outside the Grand Ash .

Ian,  I can read your PM, but the system will not allow me to reply.... no button showing other than 'read' or 'delete'

Also, apologies, it wasn't yellow lines, it was (and is) pavement parking, all day!   Plus more...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on July 25, 2015, 09:58:54 pm
   Just to add to the confusion. Be prepared for the name to be changed. "Grand Ash" was so named because it was owned by the group Grand U.K. of Norwich and all fifteen of their hotels were named Grand etc etc. And I can tell you from experience of the company who I worked for on and off for a number of years, they will not be happy about this and they will be pulling down the nameplates given half a chance

Before it was the Grand Ash it was the One Ash  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 26, 2015, 08:18:00 am
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Also, apologies, it wasn't yellow lines, it was (and is) pavement parking, all day!

Obviously, this puts things in a whole new light. Parking on double yellow lines is illegal but parking on pavements is not.  It only becomes illegal if there's actual obstruction or if it creates a danger.

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In Israel you only have to take a written test to get a FULL Driving Licence. This is then accepted by the UK authorities who issue a Full UK Licence without any further test requirements. This is not an anti-Semitic statement but a factual one   

Below from Wikipedia:

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In order to receive a license (in Israel), each applicant must pass a medical and eye checkup, and a theoretical test, before taking a number of practical lessons culminating in the practical test.

We've now had two statements offered as fact about members of a law-abiding Jewish community in Llandudno which could be seen as inflammatory as well as both being factually wrong.

I've been distinctly uneasy for some time about what could be perceived as a very slight racist and antireligionist undertone to some posts recently and I would ask everyone not to post anything about any group whatsoever unless and until what they post can be proved. We are all part of a wider community of people and neither Dave nor I will have any truck with posts which make inaccurate statements aimed at minority groups, whether of race, religious adherence or gender affiliation.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 26, 2015, 09:05:55 am
I just saw a post from Ian earlier that has now vanished?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 26, 2015, 09:07:42 am
Now back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 26, 2015, 04:34:05 pm
The Jazz festival on Bodafon Fields looks to be something of a washout, sadly. I've been past on both days and there seems to be very few people wandering around.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 26, 2015, 07:49:41 pm
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I've been distinctly uneasy for some time about what could be perceived as a very slight racist and antireligionist undertone to some posts recently and I would ask everyone not to post anything about any group whatsoever unless and until what they post can be proved. We are all part of a wider community of people and neither Dave nor I will have any truck with posts which make inaccurate statements aimed at minority groups, whether of race, religious adherence or gender affiliation.

Thank you.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Big Alan on July 26, 2015, 08:22:44 pm
Boss to see you today Fester, me and Paula have put a few quid into the local economy this weekend, even on the pier, but Ian will probably tell everyone that I made that last bit up about spending money! I bet he also deletes this post or edits it, but me and Paula were a bit er, uncomfortable shall we say, about a large group of Asian children with toy rifles 'shooting' everyone who passed them on the pier after we left your kiosk, much to their older relatives amusement. Just made me think a bit. Arsed if I've offended anyone though. Nice one for asking after my mum as well mate, she's doing well thanks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 26, 2015, 09:30:09 pm
Nice to see you and your lovely wife today Big Al.

Hope you had a safe journey home in that horrible rain!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 26, 2015, 09:34:14 pm
I'll do that.

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I spoke to the General Manager of a large hotel adjacent to the Grand Ash today.

He told me that many of the new 'residents' of The Grand Ash were leaving vehicles permanently on the double yellow lines outside.

But a local friend who lives there told me there are no double yellow lines outside the Grand Ash .

Update...
It was actually a mixture of pavement parking outside The Grand Ash,   and parking on the double yellow lines, on the corner outside The Dunoon!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 27, 2015, 08:50:30 am
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Ian will probably tell everyone that I made that last bit up about spending money

Why would I do that? Are you suggesting I lie?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 27, 2015, 08:52:32 am
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I bet he also deletes this post or edits it

Again, why would I do that? And why me? If your post contravenes the forum's policies either Dave or I will edit or delete it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 27, 2015, 09:54:57 am
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Update...
It was actually a mixture of pavement parking outside The Grand Ash,   and parking on the double yellow lines, on the corner outside The Dunoon!

I've sent you a PM :-)))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 27, 2015, 10:26:44 am
Ian, how can I send a PM to another forum member?

I was under the impression this facility was withdrawn for us a few years ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 27, 2015, 10:54:01 am
PMs aren't active, Bri.  I tried to reactivate Fester's, so he could respond to me (Admins can send them) but it didn't work. Seems like I need to investigate the engine room a bit more :-))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 27, 2015, 12:38:34 pm
Thanks, Ian.

Can we still send each other e-mails by clicking on that little envelope over to the left?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on July 27, 2015, 03:08:06 pm
In Israel you only have to take a written test to get a FULL Driving Licence. This is then accepted by the UK authorities who issue a Full UK Licence without any further test requirements. This is not an anti-Semitic statement but a factual one   

A simple Google search will show that is absolute rubbish.

Your quite right Bosun, my information on the driving test requirements is wrong
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2015, 04:24:10 pm
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Also, apologies, it wasn't yellow lines, it was (and is) pavement parking, all day!

Obviously, this puts things in a whole new light. Parking on double yellow lines is illegal but parking on pavements is not.  It only becomes illegal if there's actual obstruction or if it creates a danger.

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In Israel you only have to take a written test to get a FULL Driving Licence. This is then accepted by the UK authorities who issue a Full UK Licence without any further test requirements. This is not an anti-Semitic statement but a factual one   

Below from Wikipedia:

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In order to receive a license (in Israel), each applicant must pass a medical and eye checkup, and a theoretical test, before taking a number of practical lessons culminating in the practical test.

We've now had two statements offered as fact about members of a law-abiding Jewish community in Llandudno which could be seen as inflammatory as well as both being factually wrong.

I've been distinctly uneasy for some time about what could be perceived as a very slight racist and antireligionist undertone to some posts recently and I would ask everyone not to post anything about any group whatsoever unless and until what they post can be proved. We are all part of a wider community of people and neither Dave nor I will have any truck with posts which make inaccurate statements aimed at minority groups, whether of race, religious adherence or gender affiliation.

Ian you must have a very short or very selective memory. Do you not remember this debate from last year where I said exactly the same thing
http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,467.msg76084.html#msg76084 (http://threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,467.msg76084.html#msg76084)

From Fester: "From what little I know on the subject, I don't think Freemasons prevent their children from education, believe that anyone not of the brotherhood is evil, nor behave in an abrupt, almost aggressive manner? 
Anyone exposed on a daily basis to Charedi families cannot help being a little unnerved by them."

To which I correctly pointed out - "You can't say all of them behave in an abrupt almost aggressive manner. That's a ridiculous generalisation."

But you were having none of it

"Well, he didn't.  He was making a comparison between what some say about Freemasons and his own experience with the Charedi. F is not the one generalising and he made that very point in one of the early posts:"

Why the sudden U turn???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 27, 2015, 04:34:21 pm
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To which I correctly pointed out - "You can't say all of them behave in an abrupt almost aggressive manner. That's a ridiculous generalisation."  But you were having none of it.  Why the sudden U turn???


No U-turn whatsoever. I'm afraid your memory is not only highly selective but also in error. I've been over this in detail, but I'll say this once: read more carefully. If you really want to presume clairvoyance  then I can't stop you, but you'd better get a booth on the pier. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2015, 04:52:40 pm
Apparently the footfall is falling so I'm not interested  :laugh:

However as you said

 "I would ask everyone not to post anything about any group whatsoever unless and until what they post can be proved"

Can fester prove that this group

"behave in an abrupt, almost aggressive manner? "



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 27, 2015, 04:56:56 pm

       .......doing a lot of juggling is known to cause confusion......
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 27, 2015, 05:58:16 pm
The Jazz festival on Bodafon Fields looks to be something of a washout, sadly. I've been past on both days and there seems to be very few people wandering around.
Looking at the audience pictures, they don't seem a Jazz crowd ? and it was a pity about the weather, I hope they can try again.

WATCH: Llandudno Jazz Festival highlights
The first Llandudno Jazz Festival was staged in the seaside town over the weekend.
The three day event, held on Bodafon Fields, was organised by Calon Promotions in conjunction with Shades of Soul.
The festival featured the likes of Darius Brubeck, Anita Wardell, Don Weller and local trumpet virtuoso Neil Yates who is also the festival’s Artistic Director.
At the launch he said: “The festival will enhance and increase the cultural life of Llandudno and be a magnet for more music events from the wider region.
“It will also inevitably bring extra revenue, prestige and income to the town, its people and businesses.”
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music/watch-llandudno-jazz-festival-highlights-9738053 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music/watch-llandudno-jazz-festival-highlights-9738053)
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Post by: SteveH on July 27, 2015, 06:20:07 pm
MORE MUSIC...should be under sport, but nice to see kids enjoying themselves, and I like the song.....

WATCH: Llandudno's under-10 footballers get down to Pharrell Williams hit at Happy Valley

A junior football team have taken to an appropriately named Llandudno beauty spot to create their own video for a modern pop classic.

Llandudno’s under-10 side can be seen getting down to Pharrell Williams’ Happy in the town’s Happy Valley for an end-of-season DVD made by manager Mike Smith to commemorate a dream trip to Disneyland Paris.
The video sees the boys, their manager and coaches Paul Evans and Ian Morgan throwing some shapes.

It follows a season in which the Aberconwy and Colwyn Junior Football League side competed in a once-in-a-lifetime football tournament in Disneyland.

Mike said: “I decided to make the video of Happy because they all said they were happy when we asked them how they felt about the Disneyland trip.
“We raised £10,000 to get there and we wanted to record it for them, so we made the special DVD.
“At the end of it, we asked them all how they felt and each one said ‘happy’, so we took them to Happy Valley and added the song on afterwards.

MORE AND VIDEO.....http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pharrell-williams-happy-football-9738588 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pharrell-williams-happy-football-9738588)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2015, 09:46:49 am
The Jazz festival on Bodafon Fields looks to be something of a washout, sadly. I've been past on both days and there seems to be very few people wandering around.
Looking at the audience pictures, they don't seem a Jazz crowd ? and it was a pity about the weather, I hope they can try again.

WATCH: Llandudno Jazz Festival highlights

“It will also inevitably bring extra revenue, prestige and income to the town, its people and businesses.”
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music/watch-llandudno-jazz-festival-highlights-9738053 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/music/watch-llandudno-jazz-festival-highlights-9738053)

They look like a load of bored old people........definitely a jazz crowd $good$

(http://i2.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article9736205.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/JS68933460.jpg)
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 28, 2015, 10:55:35 am
 L0L That made me laugh out loud! Not the best of pictures to promote the event for future years!  No one in any of the pictures seem to be enjoying themselves! 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2015, 11:14:18 am
We went to a free jazz festival at the Rhos Fynich the week before and to be fair everyone there seemed to be loving it. I'm no fan of jazz but even I nodded along to a few of the tunes! Not sure why this Llandudno one seems such a washout.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 28, 2015, 11:46:52 am
Labour leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn to appear at St George's Hotel on August 10 from 5.30pm to 7pm.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 28, 2015, 11:47:46 am
We went to a free jazz festival at the Rhos Fynich the week before and to be fair everyone there seemed to be loving it. I'm no fan of jazz but even I nodded along to a few of the tunes! Not sure why this Llandudno one seems such a washout.
It was there first year, a bit of a learning curve, so I hope they can try again, events like this can only be good for the area..........I am not sure if Bodafon fields was the right venue ? something smaller Happy Valley ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 28, 2015, 11:54:26 am
Its a conservative hotel im sure,the socialist should br in the buffs
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2015, 12:08:36 pm
Labour leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn to appear at St George's Hotel on August 10 from 5.30pm to 7pm.

Do you need tickets or anything?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2015, 12:09:10 pm
Its a conservative hotel im sure,the socialist should br in the buffs

 ZXZ agreed
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2015, 12:29:10 pm
Labour leadership candidate Jeremy Corbyn to appear at St George's Hotel on August 10 from 5.30pm to 7pm.
I will have to give that a miss as I have some paint that I need to watch drying....  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 28, 2015, 02:03:29 pm
There is always Leanne Wood in Madoc Street this Thursday afternoon and later in the Lauriston Court Hotel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 28, 2015, 09:53:03 pm
Llandudno's famous Monkey Man wants the whole town to celebrate his upcoming wedding
One of Llandudno’s most recognisable residents is marrying his “soulmate”, and wants the whole town and his fans from across the world to join in the celebrations.
Since “adopting” his monkey from a charity shop six years ago, Samuel Peters - also famously known as the Monkey Man - has toured the country with his cuddly toy, dancing all the while.
Recently, his fiancee Amanda Newman has joined him as part of the act, dancing with him and singing hit songs from musicals. They don't receive money for their act.

Samuel, who has suffered from a variety of health problems for a number of years and is bipolar, has tried to take his own life numerous times but says his toy monkey saved his life.
“I have no idea why, but I bought the monkey and just started to talk to him as I had nobody else to talk to at the time,” said Samuel, 62.
“In Birmingham, where I’m from, I’d often go to my local police station just for a chat, and I started taking the monkey with me.
“Instead of being laughed at, the police started encouraging me and the act started from there.
“Before the monkey, I didn’t really want to live. I had overdosed numerous times.”

Samuel moved to North Wales six years ago, and since then his Monkey Man routine has won him fans from all over the world.
He said: “The public are so kind. We have busloads of people waving at us when they see Amanda and I, and loads of fans want selfies with us.
“A lot of people want to come to our wedding, and everyone is welcome as long as they can all fit into Holy Trinity Church in Llandudno on August 29.
“We are hoping it’s going to be the biggest wedding Llandudno has ever seen, and it will help put the town on the map.
“Amanda and I love each other. She’s my soulmate. We’ve both been through a lot and we help each other.
“We can talk for hours and never get bored, and my social worker has signed me off as she knows Amanda has put me in a better place.”

The couple are asking for help to make their wedding a special day.
“A friend is trying to get us an open top carriage for the big day,” said Amanda, 52.
“Somebody else has offered to do the photography for free, and another kind person is going to do my hair and make-up for free.
“We’d have a quiet wedding if it was possible, but too many people are interested in Monkey Man.”
The couple also hope to find a pageboy to push the monkey down the aisle in a pram.

The Monkey Man has got almost 5,000 fans on Facebook and has several videos of him and his monkey on YouTube.
Amanda Faulds, a friend of the couple, has started a Facebook campaign to help make the wedding a day to remember.
Amanda said: “Sam and Amanda go around Llandudno and put smiles on people’s faces, so it would be nice if we can put a smile on their faces.”
Anyone wishing to help should visit the Llandudno Monkey Man Facebook page.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-llandudnos-famous-monkey-man-9745538 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-llandudnos-famous-monkey-man-9745538)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 29, 2015, 12:20:38 am
What a wonderful story! When i first saw him doing his thing a few years ago, i did not get it really. We met him with Amanda on the pier when the boat was there, both seemed really pleasent!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 29, 2015, 12:54:22 pm
What a wonderful story! When i first saw him doing his thing a few years ago, i did not get it really. We met him with Amanda on the pier when the boat was there, both seemed really pleasent!

Are you saying that you 'get it' now?

Cos, I just think he is somewhere between an extreme eccentric and a public nuisance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 29, 2015, 02:15:43 pm
What a wonderful story! When i first saw him doing his thing a few years ago, i did not get it really. We met him with Amanda on the pier when the boat was there, both seemed really pleasent!

Are you saying that you 'get it' now?

Cos, I just think he is somewhere between an extreme eccentric and a public nuisance.

Llandudno has historically had it's share of well loved nutters. As long as they're not harming anyone I don't see the problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCDBKx8Q_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCDBKx8Q_w)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 29, 2015, 02:38:18 pm
I thought 'Wasting Police Time' was an offence?

What about the times I see him 'Disturbing The Peace' by having his music blaring out, I have had blind folks very upset and unsettled by him at times.

It's no big deal to me, but it's just worth pointing out that one person's harmless nutter is a menace to another.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 29, 2015, 04:42:16 pm
Suprised nobody on here interested in the picnic that Ian Turner is organising on Happy Valley this Sunday?

"LLANDUDNO COMMUNITY PICNIC UPDATE:- As members of this group, I'm sure we all know that there are no car parking facilities within the Happy Valley Gardens.
On Sunday, please stroll or cycle up to the picnic. What we really don't want to happen is cause any congestion there with cars that shouldn't be there. If we all adhere to how we know vehicular access works up in the Happy Valley, we shouldn't have any problems.
We have to ensure that access up to and down from the Ski Slope is kept clear, which is only fair.
We also need to keep 'Alex Munro Way' clear of vehicles in case emergency vehicles need access. On that subject. In case of accidents, the St John Ambulance will be in attendance during the picnic. They will be situated in the pink and white gazebo.
This video clearly shows that double yellow lines are everywhere within the gardens."

Has been advertised on this Facebook page for ages

https://www.facebook.com/groups/91560190640/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/groups/91560190640/?fref=ts)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 29, 2015, 04:48:38 pm
https://www.facebook.com/events/105064519837216/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/105064519837216/)

Here is the event page

Conwy County Borough Council and 'The Friends of Happy Valley', invite you to attend the first ever 'Llandudno Community Picnic. A chance to meet up with family and friends from the town in a stunning location, and share memories of the town and those people who make our town such a special place to live and work.

This free event will reunite people, bring the community together, solidify friendships and make new ones. An opportunity to meet familiar faces and say "Hi, how are you, how are you doing, what are you up to these days, how's the family?".

There is a cafe and toilet facilities, views to take your breath away and many memories and stories to share.

There will be a collection on the day with proceeds being donated to St David's Hospice. So please, if you can, bring with you at least a £1.00 to put in the box to help support our wonderful hospice in Abbey Road that provides superb care to poorly people from our town. This gesture of support will be our way of saying 'Thank You' to the hospice for all they do.

During the picnic, you will be able to write the name of a loved one or friend who has passed away, onto a ribbon, along with a personal message, and tie it onto the beautiful 'Alice in Wonderland' bandstand, where it will stay for two weeks following the picnic. Ribbons and pens will be provided free.

We ask you to respect that there is 'NO PARKING' within 'Happy Valley Gardens' and to please bear in mind that you will have to walk up to the picnic.

Please also put any litter in the bins provided, or take it home with you.

We look forward to seeing you, and to enjoy your company, and request that you share this invitation with all your Facebook friends in order to spread the word to maximise the amount of our friends who would like to join us.

See you on August 2nd......
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 02, 2015, 08:45:51 pm
  Hello Born to run. Well I went to give a bit of support. About a half hour after the nasty downpour of rain we had for a lot of the morning. I didn't check the time but it was around 2.30 and I was disappointed to see virtually no one there. A council employee, two first aid men (and a partridge in a pear tree) were about all. I only hope it picked up rapidly after I left.
   Oh, and by the way. The Alice themed croquet green on the old putting green. Closed, no sign of anything happening. Yes, I was there, but my pitch and putters were playing despite the earlier rain and my absence. My honesty golf took over for a while.
   In local newspaper articles this croquet was mentioned, and it was stated that a whole lot of work had been undertaken on the putting green to bring it up to the required standard and that the grass had been carefully cut to the most suitable length for croquet. I can confirm that a whole lot of work in levelling and cutting had been done. I spoke personally to a council greenskeeper and he told me (maybe exaggerating) that he had been there practically all week. That was week before last.
  Unfortunately grass has an unfortunate habit of growing, so any specific length two weeks ago wasn't much use today, especially as it was closed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 02, 2015, 11:21:02 pm
Ormegolf I walk up the valley every day ,the sign is on the door but nobody has ever been there since they cut the grass two weeks ago , may as well left the golf holes there .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 03, 2015, 08:42:02 am
Seems a bit like all the ALICE things...........1/2 a job. The other suits in the cards, ie plant pots etc have only just appeared.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2015, 08:56:54 am
I only noticed yesterday whilst walking around the Orme that the Land Train now runs around Marine Drive - when did this start?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 03, 2015, 08:58:23 am
A week last Tuesday. On the Wednesday it developed an issue with the braking system, and only started again last Tuesday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2015, 09:02:06 am
Can't imagine that the drivers who get stuck behind it are best pleased.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 03, 2015, 09:08:35 am
Even less pleased is the coach company...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2015, 09:10:19 am
Even less pleased is the coach company...
I can imagine.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 03, 2015, 09:18:21 am
That sounds ridiculous to me! The coach is much better suited for that job!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 03, 2015, 09:31:07 am
I suspect it's only going to run for the main season - about another five weeks - but the numbers they're getting (mainly because of the weather) might not make it viable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 03, 2015, 10:01:49 am
The one which was running at Rhos between Porth Eirias and the bottom of the Cayley Prom. seems to have gone away. Wonder if it is the same one?
As for being stuck behind it........aggggh ! Mind you at least the fumes aren't as bad as from the coach!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 03, 2015, 10:34:09 am
  Hello Born to run. Well I went to give a bit of support. About a half hour after the nasty downpour of rain we had for a lot of the morning. I didn't check the time but it was around 2.30 and I was disappointed to see virtually no one there.

Ahh you see Mike I was one of those fair weather fans as well! We had the picnic packed but the rain put us off. I saw some pictures on facebook didn't look to be many there at all. You can't plan for the weather I suppose  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 03, 2015, 11:20:19 am
 In reply to Norman68 yes, and a weeks labour costs for one man would have been saved.
  I might add that there was previously a substantial rental charge to use the putting green. I know how much, but I don't think I should mention it here.
 If "Alice" is paying this rental, well my goodness they will have to get their skates on to even take it, never mind pay any wages and make a profit. In my opinion financially impossible
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 03, 2015, 12:33:18 pm
In reply to Norman68 yes, and a weeks labour costs for one man would have been saved.
  I might add that there was previously a substantial rental charge to use the putting green. I know how much, but I don't think I should mention it here.
 If "Alice" is paying this rental, well my goodness they will have to get their skates on to even take it, never mind pay any wages and make a profit. In my opinion financially impossible
I doubt that putting green has made any real profit for years. Not a great location.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2015, 05:53:09 pm
That sounds ridiculous to me! The coach is much better suited for that job!

Had a look on Tripadvisor re Landtrain ............
Reviewers report....
"There appear to be two land trains so the one I review travels around the Great Orme via Marine Drive, which has the sea to the right. The fare is £4 (Coach £6) and the conductor told me it took one hour with no further information. After only about 10 mins we stopped at a café for an announced 15 min break. On this particular day there was a high wind and it was cold so few people wanted to stand outside for the view of the sea. We could see plenty of that anyway. The stay was actually 25 mins and people seated near me agreed the stop was unnecessary and far too long. We continued around the Orme to the West Shore and back into town. The actual travelling time was only about 30 mins at the most. I was disappointed and I considered my trip was a 'rip off'"
Visited July 2015

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 04, 2015, 06:44:33 pm
Good to see! The idea is so mad that you would expect it to be thought up by CCCB!  The coach is great, sheltered from  the wind and rain and a great commentary from the driver, we go on it at least once a year!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2015, 07:13:46 pm
Good to see! The idea is so mad that you would expect it to be thought up by CCCB!  The coach is great, sheltered from  the wind and rain and a great commentary from the driver, we go on it at least once a year!

Can't blame them for trying, but I think they should be looking at their Shore to Shore route, the comments are not good, and they will end up with dissatisfied "one trip only" passengers ....and not repeat customers, not good for any business.....or Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2015, 09:04:44 am
There have been about about 5 vans and attached caravans parked up by the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don all this week, right in front of signs banning overnight parking. Does anyone at CCBC enforce these rules, I wonder? The caravans are taking up 10+ parking spaces.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 07, 2015, 10:21:59 am
Motorhomes move into the lay-bys in the Conwy valley every year to overnight on them. No one ever seems to notice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 07, 2015, 10:41:34 am
There have been about about 5 vans and attached caravans parked up by the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don all this week, right in front of signs banning overnight parking. Does anyone at CCBC enforce these rules, I wonder? The caravans are taking up 10+ parking spaces.

They will be too busy looking for people dropping litter in Mostyn Street!  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 07, 2015, 10:51:47 am
Aren't the people who own camp sites annoyed and complaining?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 07, 2015, 11:58:57 am
It amazes me that some people are too tight to either book a B&B or at least pay to park their Motorhome in a  proper campsite.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 07, 2015, 12:15:13 pm
It amazes me that some people are too tight to either book a B&B or at least pay to park their Motorhome in a  proper campsite.
I have noticed that a lot of them park over drain's and/or  tuck themselves into the far corner of Gloddaeth St car park.......which makes me wonder...... &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 07, 2015, 01:25:04 pm
Exactly Steve H, I have wondered the same, where else would they dispose of their waste to put it politely ? They also park in the central reservation on Gloddaeth.............must be like sleeping on the M1 !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on August 07, 2015, 08:42:42 pm
I've seen the ones by the paddling pool -they have been there a few days and even saw washing hanging on the wall!!  Are they gypsies?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 09, 2015, 06:52:27 pm
Countryfile (BBC1) tonight is in Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on August 09, 2015, 08:04:44 pm
Blimey, you are going to be inundated with visitors! What a great plug for the town. You'd better cancel that retirement Fester.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 09, 2015, 09:25:48 pm
Great programme for the town, just wish they hadn't kept chopping and changing back and forth so much !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on August 09, 2015, 10:44:48 pm
after those rave reviews today i can see you run off your feet Mike, so I will have to drop you some more golf balls off soon. It must have been recorded early in the day the pier looked very busy, got to be good for business
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 10, 2015, 12:33:10 am
Great advert for the town.

Does anybody have any idea how old those aerial shots of the pier must be?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 10, 2015, 07:56:28 am
It was a great ad for the town but I was curious that the goats - which act as a fair draw in their own right - were never mentioned.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2015, 10:45:35 am
Not much on the mine either.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: white rabbit on August 10, 2015, 08:36:36 pm
I thought it a shame the goats weren't mentioned too and does the beach look like that??  Also wish they hadn't kept chopping and changing but good ad for the town
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on August 10, 2015, 09:10:23 pm
the chopping and changing is a good idea to keep you watching when there are things going on that you are not really intrested in, can drive you nuts at times.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 11, 2015, 12:21:47 am
For those of us who frequent the town outside the hours of daylight, I have to report that things are NOT getting any busier.

Today on the Pier, it first started to get busy circa 1pm, and it was pretty much dead by 4.30pm.   
To be fair, my accounts from last year told me that the same phenomena had started back then.

Tonight, these are my pictures taken in Upper Mostyn St at 10pm.
It should have been rammed, with visitors and locals alike.
However, Fountains Bar didn't have a soul in, neither did Cooney's,   but at least they were open......!!
Unlike The Gresham and Lilly who were starting to close up, due to lack of customers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 11, 2015, 06:23:49 am
From what I see on my  visits to Llandudno, usually to the Nationwide or Asda, most visitors seem to be getting on a bit and unlikely to be out at 10pm, probably they are like me watching a bit of telly before going to bed. Younger visitors with kids are probably just day visitors who go back to their homes or holiday caravans near Rhyl. I'm only guessing here, no facts to back it up!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 11, 2015, 07:14:16 am
Apparently, these things go in cycles (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/33713015/uk-nightclubs-closing-at-alarming-rate-industry-figures-suggest).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 11, 2015, 08:04:44 am
Yes lots of night clubs closing, seems younger people prefer festivals these days. I was talked into going to a couple of night clubs back in the early eighties, a truly horrendous experience! As far as I'm concerned they can close the lot of them!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 11, 2015, 08:59:53 am
The only comment that I can add to this thread is that we were absolutely heaving all afternoon in the Charity shop yesterday..................a lot of older ladies, ie not your nightclub types.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2015, 09:10:47 am
I think what we've been seeing in the last few years can be described as 'compression', both in terms of the summer season itself and the individual days within that season. The season seems to grow a few days shorter every year, whilst the busy element of each day seems to be compressed into a fewer number of hours.

It's also interesting how the spending patterns of visitors have changed. For example, on the Pier, people will happily buy a coffee or beer, and spend a few pounds in the arcade, but are far less likely to buy something from one of the retail kiosks. Are retail purchases now seen as non-essential, or are the items on sale just not attractive enough to force a purchase?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2015, 09:21:35 am
Tell you where was packed last night

St Georges hotel  $good$

Jeremy Corbyn 'mad man' endorsed by the TTF can certainly pack them in.

About 30 people couldn't fit in the main room and was packed outside in the hall ways
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 11, 2015, 09:37:01 am
Tell you where was packed last night

St Georges hotel  $good$

Jeremy Corbyn 'mad man' endorsed by the TTF can certainly pack them in.

About 30 people couldn't fit in the main room and was packed outside in the hall ways
That's great news...


...for all the other political parties.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 11, 2015, 09:49:59 am
Very true!  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2015, 10:10:33 am
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-rally-draws-more-6230271#ICID=sharebar_facebook (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-rally-draws-more-6230271#ICID=sharebar_facebook)

National news - and I'm in the picture  D)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 12, 2015, 10:36:50 am
It's been pleasing to see this year that CCBC have put far more effort into the public gardens around Llandudno's town centre. The promenade gardens, in particular, are looking far better, with lots of new planting and regular maintenance to keep them tidy. I don't think I've seen so much effort going into them in years. Well done CCBC.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 12, 2015, 12:19:40 pm
Did I notice the judges for Wales in Bloom 2015 around town last Tuesday?  $good$

If so, let's hope Llandudno is a Winner.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2015, 02:05:20 pm
If you remember a while back I posted about inconsiderate parking stopping access to all our properties.
Well we WON ! They are installing lines as I type.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 12, 2015, 02:08:27 pm
Well done!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2015, 03:00:15 pm
Thanks Ian. A couple of car shaped spaces still to do, as usual, folk parked on the pavement/road. What a fight we had, but at least we won the day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on August 12, 2015, 03:34:01 pm
It's been pleasing to see this year that CCBC have put far more effort into the public gardens around Llandudno's town centre. The promenade gardens, in particular, are looking far better, with lots of new planting and regular maintenance to keep them tidy. I don't think I've seen so much effort going into them in years. Well done CCBC.  $good$
      I'm out and about most mornings fairly early and the council gardeners have been very busy on the prom in the last couple of weeks and the results are excellent. The one thing that lets the display down (and it's no fault of the gardeners) is the floral clock by the cenotaph, which has been freshly replanted with flowers but has rarely shown the correct time since it was first installed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 12, 2015, 05:07:13 pm
I think what we've been seeing in the last few years can be described as 'compression', both in terms of the summer season itself and the individual days within that season. The season seems to grow a few days shorter every year, whilst the busy element of each day seems to be compressed into a fewer number of hours.

It's also interesting how the spending patterns of visitors have changed. For example, on the Pier, people will happily buy a coffee or beer, and spend a few pounds in the arcade, but are far less likely to buy something from one of the retail kiosks. Are retail purchases now seen as non-essential, or are the items on sale just not attractive enough to force a purchase?

Absolutely.... SPOT ON!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 13, 2015, 11:40:22 am
Or items you can't get from the pound shop or much cheaper elsewhere.
People are custom savvy these days - take that football shop on there for example.
They were selling a Celtic Gnome for £25 I got the same gnome for £6.99 from Sports Direct, you don't have to be Martin Lewis to spot some of these!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 13, 2015, 12:23:03 pm
 _))* _))* _))* I cannot believe that anyone would ever admit to buying one!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 13, 2015, 12:50:20 pm
shame that bog island is not kept upto standard
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 13, 2015, 02:35:16 pm
_))* _))* _))* I cannot believe that anyone would ever admit to buying one!!!!!!!

Welllll It has the added security feature that nobody would ever nick it  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 14, 2015, 12:51:30 pm
Or items you can't get from the pound shop or much cheaper elsewhere.
People are custom savvy these days - take that football shop on there for example.
They were selling a Celtic Gnome for £25 I got the same gnome for £6.99 from Sports Direct, you don't have to be Martin Lewis to spot some of these!

That reminds me of a lady who strode into my shop and said, 'These oil burners you are selling at £2.99, I've seen similar ones at £1.99 in PoundStretcher'

'Oh', I said... 'that's a real bargain'...... ''Did you buy one off them?'

'No, I didn't' was the reply.

'Well, I might as well make mine fifty quid each then, because it makes no difference does it, you still won't buy one' :laugh:

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 14, 2015, 01:25:18 pm
Fester I have that T shirt..........My lady asked for a jacket in a size 40 which she tried on, looked at the price and said they were £20 cheaper down the road, but they did not have her size...............I explained that if I did not have her size......I would be £30 cheaper.        ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 14, 2015, 04:14:58 pm
Have they got a Glasgow Rangers one
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 14, 2015, 04:26:49 pm
I'm afraid the Rangers gnome went into administration  Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 17, 2015, 07:46:45 pm
We need Oscar back,nobody gives a stuff anymore.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 17, 2015, 09:18:47 pm
 I agree. Also one or two of the absent ex members of this forum. Love em or hate em, they did enliven proceedings
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 18, 2015, 05:08:50 pm
Such a shame there are no takers for the Clarence and the Tudno castle,im sure the prospective owners are trying to let all the empty units but they are obviously struggling big style,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 19, 2015, 12:22:04 pm
Such a shame there are no takers for the Clarence and the Tudno castle,im sure the prospective owners are trying to let all the empty units but they are obviously struggling big style,

.... or being too greedy?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 20, 2015, 05:01:13 pm
There have been about about 5 vans and attached caravans parked up by the Paddling Pool at Craig Y Don all this week, right in front of signs banning overnight parking. Does anyone at CCBC enforce these rules, I wonder? The caravans are taking up 10+ parking spaces.
Quotes from earlier in the month..........
Ian  "Motorhomes move into the lay-bys in the Conwy valley every year to overnight on them. No one ever seems to notice"
B2R  "Aren't the people who own camp sites annoyed and complaining? "
DaveR  "It amazes me that some people are too tight to either book a B&B or at least pay to park their Motorhome in a  proper campsite."

I see in todays Pioneer that CCBC and CBC have banned campers and caravans from parking overnight on Rhos prom between 11pm  8am  anyone doing so will be fined, the signs are up already.
Maybe Llandudno will be next ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on August 20, 2015, 05:51:12 pm
I think there already signs on Llandudno prom near the paddling pool but no one takes any notice of them and no one enforces them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 20, 2015, 07:06:36 pm
I think there already signs on Llandudno prom near the paddling pool but no one takes any notice of them and no one enforces them.
There seems to have been numerous complaints from the locals in Rhos......our turn now..... $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on August 20, 2015, 08:39:23 pm
Looking  from the other side, these  are tax paying vat paying road fund licence  paying citizens  ,who in general do not cause  any trouble. As such  they are easy  targets ,if they were Gypsies it would take months  of CCBC legal  wrangling  to remove them the mess to remove ect  with no benefit  to local economy
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 20, 2015, 08:58:05 pm
Looking  from the other side, these  are tax paying vat paying road fund licence  paying citizens  ,who in general do not cause  any trouble. As such  they are easy  targets ,if they were Gypsies it would take months  of CCBC legal  wrangling  to remove them the mess to remove ect  with no benefit  to local economy

"with no benefit  to local economy" .....I think that is a big part of the problem...... Councillor Squires... " there are plenty of campsites in the area that cater for these vehicles, and through word of mouth, they have opted not to pay the fees but park for free on the prom"    this restriction could help these camp sights.
Do they use local shops and services ?........ &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 21, 2015, 08:14:48 am
Quote
Do they use local shops and services ?........

I think Spotty was referring to Gypsies, Steve.

On the overnight parking in Conwy Valley it amazes me that anyone would want to park next to the A470. They'd certainly get a very early morning call.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 21, 2015, 12:48:54 pm
 Banned campers and caravans from parking overnight  Full article now on " Everything to do with Colwyn Bay"

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 21, 2015, 07:25:41 pm
When Motor-homes / Camper-vans parked in front of us up on North Parade, we would go out at 21:00hrs and politely remind the owners that it was illegal for them to park there after midnight and also informed them that at 00:01hrs we would be contacting the Police to have them moved on. It invariably worked.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on August 21, 2015, 10:02:23 pm
I 5hought the ide was to encourage visitors. When my son went to France with his Camper Van, every town had designated parking spaces by the local shops and farmers offered free spaces with the proviso that you purchase some of thir products?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 22, 2015, 11:08:29 am
Quiggs you are right,i think the hoteliers made sure that if you came to Llandudno you either stay out of town and visit by car or you stay in one of their hotels and of course you can;t blame them for that,but if a camper family is touring Wales its a shame we kick them out of town,i would supply a one night only policy in one of our car parks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 22, 2015, 11:11:39 am
Don;t forget that Llandudno will be live on tv this evening for two hours,Llandudno fc v Aberystwyth town for our first ever appearance in the Welsh premier,come on the town,i for one will be there come rain or sunshine,please support th town 5.15 kick-off
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Big Alan on August 22, 2015, 05:12:16 pm
Watching on the tele here in Liverpool, wish I was there cheering them on.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 23, 2015, 12:03:28 pm
I 5hought the ide was to encourage visitors. When my son went to France with his Camper Van, every town had designated parking spaces by the local shops and farmers offered free spaces with the proviso that you purchase some of thir products?

The trouble with that argument Quiggs is that although they park their Camper Vans right outside our business they are not buying our services i.e. bedspaces and it has the knock on effect of making our paying guests very resentful.

The By-Laws is no overnight Camper Van Parking on the Prom. It should be respected and enforced.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 23, 2015, 12:21:45 pm
Go out in the middle of the night to wake them up, that should make them move!   :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 23, 2015, 02:04:35 pm
When I've been driving down the promenade during the daytime it can be difficult and dangerous sometimes passing these camper vans as the promenade is quite narrow in places and the vans are wider than the normal vehicles parked there.
If there is a by law then it should be respected and enforced but who does the enforcing?
Those by laws should also apply to the travelling community but why is it so difficult to evict them from privately owned sites?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 23, 2015, 06:49:34 pm
Lets wake all the tourists up in town and drive them OUT.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 23, 2015, 11:00:48 pm
Lets wake all the tourists up in town and drive them OUT.

Slight amendment to your post Wrex; Lets throw the freeloading tourist and their Campervans out and it's C.C.B.C. who should be enforcing the bylaws including ticketing vehicles that park outside the defined lines of the parking area.

Hugo is quite right, driving past them down a crowded promenade can be a nightmare. I just supprised there aren't more accidents.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 24, 2015, 07:16:56 am
We had campervans many years ago, never once did we stay in them overnight anywhere other than proper campsites, these people are just being tight and inconsiderate to others. It seems wrong that paying guests staying in a hotel have trouble parking outside the hotel due to freeloading campervans parked there!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 24, 2015, 09:13:58 am
Trouble enough with Travelodge...................82 rooms and not one allocated parking place. Result...Chaos!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 24, 2015, 09:58:28 am
I always thought there would be problems with Travelodge parking!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 24, 2015, 10:26:17 am
Too right.!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on August 24, 2015, 12:34:17 pm
Could anyone enlighten me as to where  all these campsites are located?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 24, 2015, 12:56:26 pm
Im sure these camper vans go on the cable cars,trams ,on the pier,shopping can;t all be bad.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on August 24, 2015, 02:12:17 pm
Could anyone enlighten me as to where  all these campsites are located?

Here is the nearest one....   http://www.dinarthhall.co.uk (http://www.dinarthhall.co.uk)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on August 24, 2015, 03:26:35 pm
I had no idea about this place when I owned a Camper van, I had to make do with my parents' drive which was nearer to the centre of things without having to drive off site
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 24, 2015, 03:37:48 pm
Interesting idea... Anyone with a large enough drive living reasonably central to Llandudno could make a few pennies renting the drive out :-)))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2015, 03:39:05 pm
Interesting comments on this link....................Why is there no dedicated site for these vehicles?.

http://forums.motorhomefacts.com/33-wild-camping-spots-mh-friendly-parking/103902-llandudno-overnight-parking.html (http://forums.motorhomefacts.com/33-wild-camping-spots-mh-friendly-parking/103902-llandudno-overnight-parking.html)

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/campervans-motorhomes-face-tighter-parking-7034514 (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/campervans-motorhomes-face-tighter-parking-7034514)

Overnight costs....£££££££
http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=4&TopicID=217753 (http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=4&TopicID=217753)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 24, 2015, 03:39:46 pm
I always thought there would be problems with Travelodge parking!

Couldn't they have had an underground car park?     :twoface:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 24, 2015, 05:41:11 pm
 _))*

Perhaps a compromise would be to designate certain zones as 'motorhome-friendly' and charge a fee by length of vehicle. The stretch across the front of Bodafon fields could be used and the toilets could be left open and manned 24/7 for the six week period. It would have to be costed, but if it appeared feasible then angled parking bays could be created and I would estimate you'd be able to get in about 20 motorhomes. That's about £200 per night, which would pay for the toilet attendant and still leave something for the council. Maybe that's too obvious and I've missed something?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 24, 2015, 06:16:00 pm
I always thought there would be problems with Travelodge parking!

Couldn't they have had an underground car park?     :twoface:

Now that is talking sense ! Unlike the planners .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2015, 06:17:23 pm
Perhaps a compromise would be to designate certain zones as 'motorhome-friendly' and charge a fee by length of vehicle. The stretch across the front of Bodafon fields could be used and the toilets could be left open and manned 24/7 for the six week period. It would have to be costed, but if it appeared feasible then angled parking bays could be created and I would estimate you'd be able to get in about 20 motorhomes. That's about £200 per night, which would pay for the toilet attendant and still leave something for the council. Maybe that's too obvious and I've missed something?
Exactly my thoughts.........They are after all tourists to the area, and it is no loss to the hotels as they would'nt use them anyway, also if there was a dedicated area then they would have no excuse for street parking.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 24, 2015, 07:13:32 pm
The problem we have,like the outdoor market argument is we have a lot of hotels to fill and if motorhomes are encouraged then Mr and Mrs Smith who own a motorhome in Manchester but sometimes like to stay in Llandudno may just bring the motorhome instead,i like the idea of a onenight stay park so if people are touring North Wales then there is a one night welcome .The outdoor market on the station land was refused on grounds of taking trade away from local shops,bring thousands in on a Sunday but at what cost .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: FatAndy on August 25, 2015, 06:09:51 pm
Perhaps a compromise would be to designate certain zones as 'motorhome-friendly' and charge a fee by length of vehicle. The stretch across the front of Bodafon fields could be used and the toilets could be left open and manned 24/7 for the six week period. It would have to be costed, but if it appeared feasible then angled parking bays could be created and I would estimate you'd be able to get in about 20 motorhomes. That's about £200 per night, which would pay for the toilet attendant and still leave something for the council. Maybe that's too obvious and I've missed something?

The stretch opposite Bodafon Fields would be the worst place for something like this.  The paddling pool is incredibly popular with families, probably because there are so few family friendly attractions in the area, so parking is already a nightmare during the summer holidays without encouraging motorhome owners to hog all the spaces at that end of the prom.  That would be the final nail in the coffin if it happened.  In fact my wife recently tried to take the kids to the pool but the parking was so difficult she gave up and went to the pool in Rhos instead.  If parking is made any worse in Craig-y-Don we just wouldn't even bother trying and we'd go straight to Rhos or Penmaenmawr instead along with all the other families.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 25, 2015, 06:17:09 pm
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If parking is made any worse in Craig-y-Don we just wouldn't even bother trying and we'd go straight to Rhos or Penmaenmawr instead along with all the other families.

I suspect the problem is that no one wants anything that would impact on them, so what's the solution? During the peak season there are no spaces to be had anywhere.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 25, 2015, 06:36:03 pm
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If parking is made any worse in Craig-y-Don we just wouldn't even bother trying and we'd go straight to Rhos or Penmaenmawr instead along with all the other families.
I suspect the problem is that no one wants anything that would impact on them, so what's the solution? During the peak season there are no spaces to be had anywhere.
Is there a possibility of using Bodafon Field for these peak periods?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2015, 10:55:05 am
The stretch opposite Bodafon Fields would be the worst place for something like this.  The paddling pool is incredibly popular with families, probably because there are so few family friendly attractions in the area, so parking is already a nightmare during the summer holidays without encouraging motorhome owners to hog all the spaces at that end of the prom.  That would be the final nail in the coffin if it happened.  In fact my wife recently tried to take the kids to the pool but the parking was so difficult she gave up and went to the pool in Rhos instead.  If parking is made any worse in Craig-y-Don we just wouldn't even bother trying and we'd go straight to Rhos or Penmaenmawr instead along with all the other families.
I agree. The sight of 20 motorhomes parked along the Prom would hardly enhance the look of the area either.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 26, 2015, 12:37:04 pm
Parking is an ongoing problem which seriously damages the reputation and revenue generating capability's of the town. In my opinion their are only two possible solutions to the problem.

1. Park and ride car parks at the entrance to the town. Not my favorite solution because it would not be popular with shoppers.

2. Dig the Promenade up from one end to the other and put in underground parking which would be able to accommodate thousands of cars.

A bonus with the second option is, a new sea wall could be incorporated at the same time and we would be able to remove all those b****y stones from the beach.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 26, 2015, 04:55:49 pm
POLL: Hotel owners join forces in campaign for better parking in Llandudno

A GROUP of disgruntled hotel owners are launching a campaign for better parking provision in Llandudno.
With the town more popular than ever with tourists and the recent addition of a number of large hotels, hoteliers are concerned the lack of parking facilities are causing visitors to turn away from the resort.
After receiving complaints from numerous guests, a number of hotel owners have joined forces to try and persuade Conwy County Council to improve parking options in the area.

One of the group, Ann Blanchard, owner of the Oasis Hotel on Nevill Crescent, said: “The whole situation is getting beyond a joke now and something needs to be done.
“I have recently had an incident where a family has cancelled their stay after finding nowhere to park, and I know that this has happened to plenty of hotels in the area.
“The council saw fit to grant planning permission for an 80-room Travelodge with no car park, which has only made matters worse for hotel owners, residents and tourists.”

The group will be writing to Conwy Council requesting a review of the current parking provision in the town.
Mrs Blanchard, who has been running the Oasis for 15 years, added: “The council has talked about looking into the matter but nothing seems to get done.”

Cllr Ronnie Hughes, deputy leader at Conwy council, said: “We are always reviewing the situation but you are never going to please everyone and I fear that is a problem that may not ever get sorted.
“The best solution would be a park and ride system, but if that was introduced there would be no guarantee that people using the hotels would use it and we have already made a lot of concessions in terms of parking allowance for hotels.”
POLL...http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/151951/poll-hotel-owners-join-forces-in-campaign-for-better-parking-in-llandudno.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/151951/poll-hotel-owners-join-forces-in-campaign-for-better-parking-in-llandudno.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on August 28, 2015, 11:59:13 am
Bodafon fields would make a great campsite, all they would have to do is build a reasonable shower block, a site office and various amenities, measure out some pitches, bit of landscaping etc. This would be preferable to developing the site into something more permanent and more of an eyesore!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on August 29, 2015, 12:40:42 pm
I wonder if Mostyn Champneys and Asda, could be persuaded to allocate an area for a few Camper Vans, for a small fee of course. They would have them on the doorstep to purchase bread, milk, eggs. Bacon etc. as an incentive. ?? ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 30, 2015, 01:43:09 pm
Water feature in the Happy valleys was looking its usual mess this morning,no water,such a shame that it is the only water feature CCBC have to look after in Llandudno and yet they cannot manage one,sorry i forgot about the beaches,enought said.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 31, 2015, 10:13:08 am
I suspect the water feature only gets turned on when the Wales In Bloom Judges are about...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 31, 2015, 10:13:10 pm
Well there can't be too many local traders that were unhappy after the weekend. Llandudno was heaving.
I walked from West Shore in to town and back out towards Craig-y-Don and there were few parking spaces around so I can see the concern for hoteliers but Bank Holidays are the exception not the rule.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 01, 2015, 07:26:28 am
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there were few parking spaces around so I can see the concern for hoteliers

Folk don't like being parted from their cars when on holiday; that much seems certain. But Llandudno isn't unique in the problem. Cardiff, York and Oxford - to name but three - have poor parking, and York and Oxford have all but banned cars from the centre.

I suggested some time ago that one way forward was for the leading hotels to buy up some of the less prominent hotels or B & B blocks and convert them to multi-story car parking, retaining the original façades. Llandudno's main problem is that As I understand it underground parking isn't viable, for several reasons.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 01, 2015, 11:09:37 am
I'm no town planner but it strikes me that a one way system along the prom might cause fewer hold ups with two lanes for parking, one lane allowing drop off and one lane no stopping( except for zebra crossings of course). Instead of cars parked on both sides of the road, they would park at a slight angle on the hotel side but at almost 90 degrees to the road so no parking places were lost and vacant spots would be easy to move in to. The hotels then need to organise a park and ride scheme between themselves or as suggested, buy up some space for local parking although that might prove very expensive.
Well that's a quick idea, anyone else?!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on September 01, 2015, 11:16:42 am
Will Paddle Steamer Waverley call at the pier today or just do a sail past ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2015, 11:47:27 am
Will Paddle Steamer Waverley call at the pier today or just do a sail past ?
Time will tell on that one... ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 01, 2015, 06:48:28 pm
I was onit when it finally arrived,nearly two hours late
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Post by: Fester on September 01, 2015, 10:24:00 pm
Mrs Fester, joined Mr and Mrs Wrex for a really great trip on The Waverley.

She sent some great on board pictures, I'll try to post later.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 01, 2015, 10:43:04 pm
A picture taken by Mrs F as she embarked The SS Waverley.
Plus a picture I really like, looking back at a packed Pier Head, as boat casts off.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 02, 2015, 07:46:54 am
Nice photos Fester and good to see so many people there.  Where did the ship sail to ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 02, 2015, 07:55:47 am
I was a bit later than usual for a coffee morning in the Queens Hotel yesterday so it was nice to see so many empty spaces on the prom near the hotel.   I tried all the parking meters on that part of the Prom but each one said "not in use"  at first I thought that it was a generous gesture by CCBC to have free parking for the Bank Holiday weekend but then thought of those traffic wardens and didn't want to take a chance.     &shake&
Instead I moved the car and about 10 minutes later found a parking space in Mostyn Street.   It was great to see the town buzzing with people but the parking problem was awful.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 02, 2015, 09:15:02 am
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It was great to see the town buzzing with people but the parking problem was awful.

We were driving out of town at about 1100 yesterday, and were rather taken aback by the huge numbers of cars attempting to get in.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 02, 2015, 09:38:25 am
We were up at the Great Orme Summit over the Bank Holiday Weekend and the Ticket Machine in the car park there there had been removed for repair/replacement. The car park was full to overflowing, CCBC must have missed out on some major revenue.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 09, 2015, 07:26:08 am
Well CCBC get away with another season of leaving us beachless,im glad Ian Turner is fighting to save the beach,yes we need the whole sea defence replacing but until that day comes CCBC especialy the Llandudno ones need to show their faces and get it sorted for 2016,we are a tourist town which includes a bit of sand.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 09, 2015, 08:35:25 am
Well CCBC get away with another season of leaving us beachless,im glad Ian Turner is fighting to save the beach,yes we need the whole sea defence replacing but until that day comes CCBC especialy the Llandudno ones need to show their faces and get it sorted for 2016,we are a tourist town which includes a bit of sand.
I've not been following the beach saga closely lately, was it concluded that the rocks could potentially be replaced with sand?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 10, 2015, 08:30:48 am
Looks like people are quite happy with the town beach,no comments,no interest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llewelyn on September 10, 2015, 01:46:26 pm
I think people of given up on the beach. CCBC just keep kicking the problem around until its no longer news worthy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 11, 2015, 08:49:43 am
I think people of given up on the beach. CCBC just keep kicking the problem around until its no longer news worthy.
CCBC are good at keeping things bogged down in public consultations, meetings and reports until people lose interest.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 11, 2015, 08:55:23 am
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CCBC are good at keeping things bogged down in public consultations, meetings and reports until people lose interest.  &shake&

...a well-proven strategy by politicians everywhere  _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on September 12, 2015, 08:00:08 am
I won't forget when it's time to vote.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 12, 2015, 08:25:44 pm
But, bigbadhenry what on earth makes you think that hoever you vote for will be any better. If every single at present elected person was replaced, does ent matter which party, the same situation will just carry on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on September 13, 2015, 08:05:49 am
Is doing nothing the answer ???

I'll feel better and you never know !!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 13, 2015, 08:54:40 am
Town council needs to be devoid of any party politics,as for Conwy it needs a councillor with balls to stand up to the idiots,a bit like Jason Weyman,but we need 20 like him to make a difference
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 13, 2015, 07:24:03 pm
Town council needs to be devoid of any party politics,as for Conwy it needs a councillor with balls to stand up to the idiots,a bit like Jason Weyman,but we need 20 like him to make a difference
I agree, the Town Council is no place for party politics.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on September 17, 2015, 05:49:59 pm
Nice to see a picture of Cll R Hughes in the pioneer,wanting to sped more o the Colwyn seafront,shame he shows no concern over Llandudno town beach
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 18, 2015, 08:43:51 am
Nice to see a picture of Cll R Hughes in the pioneer,wanting to sped more o the Colwyn seafront,shame he shows no concern over Llandudno town beach
Very true!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2015, 09:16:26 am
Accident on the A470 at Black Cat last night at about 1615 effectively grid-locked the island.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on September 18, 2015, 03:21:21 pm
Can anyone tell me what event is going on in town. Driving through today there were lots of youngsters in tracksuits from a variety of different countries. I also assume its linked to the flags of al nations flying on the prom outside of the venue. I've googled it but without success.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 18, 2015, 03:29:17 pm
Can anyone tell me what event is going on in town. Driving through today there were lots of youngsters in tracksuits from a variety of different countries. I also assume its linked to the flags of al nations flying on the prom outside of the venue. I've googled it but without success.

The town is full of athletes, runners from Mexico, Slovenia, Hungary, I've seen them all last night and today.
But I too can find no reference online for any such local event!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2015, 03:40:10 pm
Could it be the Surfing competition?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 18, 2015, 03:53:25 pm
Just seen some from Uganda in Mostyn Street.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 18, 2015, 03:53:49 pm
And Portugal.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on September 18, 2015, 04:01:57 pm
World Mountain Running Championship

http://www.wmra.ch/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=872&Itemid=2 (http://www.wmra.ch/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=872&Itemid=2)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on September 18, 2015, 09:27:43 pm
Thanks for that. Very rarely that a week goes by in town without something or someone of interest. Not sure how much attention it would get in a wider audience but I feel it's slightly  frustrating that something like that isn't more visible on the North Wales tourist web sites and therefore  to awider audience.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 20, 2015, 12:34:01 am
We've just arrived home, chilled to the bone, but happy.  :) :)

Tonight, at Llandudno Ski Centre, the Llawn Art Festival people had erected a giant (inflatable) screen, and were showing the Sci-Fi classic 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'

The screen was at the foot of the ski slope itself, and approx 250 people turned up with picnic blankets etc, and we were sat on the ski slope itself (nicely soft and spongy).   It was an excellent experience, and the Ski lodge was available for the purchase of hot and cold drinks, snacks etc.
The whole event was very well managed and marshalled.... as twilight turned to darkness, the amazing light show that the film offers shone out around the Happy Valley area, and the soundtrack was booming!

At the very end, as the credits rolled, there was an excellent touch as some kind of model UFO's took to the sky.
They were eerie, and illuminated..... I they hovered around Happy Valley for 20 minutes or so,  I hope no unsuspecting locals were frightened into thinking that the Space Aliens had landed!

All in all, a superb event.  Very glad I got talked into it.   A couple of rubbishy pictures below, of the venue itself, and the UFO's in the sky.   Just the iphone pics I'm afraid, so doesn't do it justice.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on September 30, 2015, 08:47:18 am
Strange goings on off Llandudno today. The film crew were filming for a forthcoming TV programme which will be shown in November on Dave

You may need to log on to read article.

http://forum.shipais.co.uk/index.php?/topic/21877-strange-goings-on-off-llandudno/ (http://forum.shipais.co.uk/index.php?/topic/21877-strange-goings-on-off-llandudno/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 30, 2015, 09:25:50 am
Think you need to be a member to access that ????
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on September 30, 2015, 11:29:37 am
We've just arrived home, chilled to the bone, but happy.  :) :)

Tonight, at Llandudno Ski Centre, the Llawn Art Festival people had erected a giant (inflatable) screen, and were showing the Sci-Fi classic 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'

This must be a new arty thing they are doing across Llandudno. The other day I was walking round the back of the train station and they were showing eminent British blockbuster Trainspotting.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 02, 2015, 02:09:14 pm
It can't be ME because this Reliant Robin is red.       ;D


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reliant-robin-llandudno-prom-surfboard-10180002 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reliant-robin-llandudno-prom-surfboard-10180002)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on October 02, 2015, 04:40:14 pm
http://www.factorymedia.com/about/clients/casestudy/the-indestructibles (http://www.factorymedia.com/about/clients/casestudy/the-indestructibles)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 02, 2015, 11:03:46 pm
It can't be ME because this Reliant Robin is red.       ;D


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reliant-robin-llandudno-prom-surfboard-10180002 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reliant-robin-llandudno-prom-surfboard-10180002)

No,  mine is blue! ☺
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 08, 2015, 12:20:06 pm
Knackers yard?!?  :laugh:

Llandudno breakers yard owner admits environmental breaches
0 COMMENTS 17:01, 7 OCT 2015 UPDATED 17:08, 7 OCT 2015
BY ELWYN ROBERTS

A Llandudno knackers yard owner has been landed with an £18,000 bill after admitting environmental breaches.

Thomas Arthur Roberts, 69, accepted he had crushed vehicles without decontaminating them and had left them on ground that pollutants could seep into at his Arch Motors site close to the centre of the town.

He had initially denied the charges brought by Natural Resources Wales (NRW), but changed his pleas in court today.

Mold Crown Court heard prosecutors say there had been "warnings galore" which the 69-year-old, of Rhyd Drive in Rhos on Sea, had ignored.

Judge Niclas Parry said Roberts was clearly a hardworking man in a demanding industry "worn down by a plethora of regulations".

Although the site was sensitive as it was close to a school, Judge Parry said there had been no pollution and "any harm was restricted to your own premises".

Roberts was given a conditional discharge but was ordered to pay costs of £18,165.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-breakers-yard-owner-admits-10216501 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-breakers-yard-owner-admits-10216501)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 08, 2015, 04:13:53 pm
Interesting.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 08, 2015, 04:17:21 pm
The thiirties.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 08, 2015, 04:26:27 pm
Knackers yard?!?  :laugh:

Llandudno breakers yard owner admits environmental breaches
0 COMMENTS 17:01, 7 OCT 2015 UPDATED 17:08, 7 OCT 2015


Knackers yard? I thought that was where we were sending Fester  _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 08, 2015, 04:38:54 pm
Knackers yard?!?  :laugh:

Llandudno breakers yard owner admits environmental breaches


This is the same yard, and apparently only one in North Wales, who refused to sign up to a voluntary code to request proper identification from anyone selling him scrap metal.
He said it deprived hard working electricians and plumbers getting a bit of cash without having to pay tax !!!!!! It also would allow low life criminals a safe outlet to dispose of metal stolen too , something which of course didn't happen in his yard but one wonders what else might possibly be in his premises besides oils and battery fluids.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 08, 2015, 09:18:56 pm
Remember some years ago explosions and big fire from that site ,so didn't learn much .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on October 08, 2015, 09:24:28 pm
To be fair I weighed in some scrap metal last week at Arch Motors and needed two forms of ID (one with picture and one utility bill) and no cash was paid, only a cheque or the money directly transferred via BACS into my account.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on October 08, 2015, 09:44:22 pm
To be fair I weighed in some scrap metal last week at Arch Motors and needed two forms of ID (one with picture and one utility bill) and no cash was paid, only a cheque or the money directly transferred via BACS into my account.

yes, quite rightly, that is the procedure required by law.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 09, 2015, 08:20:02 am
To be fair I weighed in some scrap metal last week at Arch Motors and needed two forms of ID (one with picture and one utility bill) and no cash was paid, only a cheque or the money directly transferred via BACS into my account.

Pleased to hear he has seen the error of his ways on that score even if it was forced upon him. It seems to me someone who denies a crime then does a U turn and pleads guilty and refuses to join a voluntary scheme to defeat metal thieves isn't someone to be wholly trusted.
My suggestion is that if he is  "worn down by a plethora of regulations" it's time he quit . His whole operation is an eyesore and in my opinion should be closed down.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 09, 2015, 08:36:17 am

My photo doesn't do justice to the beauty of the first rays of the sun hitting the Great Orme this morning.
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q212/Rioja_1/Great%20Orme%2018343.jpg) (http://s137.photobucket.com/user/Rioja_1/media/Great%20Orme%2018343.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 09, 2015, 09:22:17 am
Very nice, Dave.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 09, 2015, 10:11:17 am
To be fair I weighed in some scrap metal last week at Arch Motors and needed two forms of ID (one with picture and one utility bill) and no cash was paid, only a cheque or the money directly transferred via BACS into my account.
I think its a legal requirement now for all scrapyards, isn't it?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on October 09, 2015, 11:55:47 am
Pleased to hear he has seen the error of his ways on that score even if it was forced upon him. It seems to me someone who denies a crime then does a U turn and pleads guilty and refuses to join a voluntary scheme to defeat metal thieves isn't someone to be wholly trusted.
My suggestion is that if he is  "worn down by a plethora of regulations" it's time he quit . His whole operation is an eyesore and in my opinion should be closed down.


If memory serves me correct the yard was there for many years before the houses and 'plethora of regulations' were forced on it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on October 09, 2015, 12:33:47 pm
If memory serves me correct the yard was there for many years before the houses and 'plethora of regulations' were forced on it.

The regulations regarding 'scrapyards' (reclamation centres etc) have improved this industry beyond recognition. Once a haven for disposing of stolen goods and pollution, the industry has now become a legitimate and a beneficial trade in recycling resources. There are many areas of brown field sites in inner cities where these scrapyards once stood that are so polluted with toxins that they cannot be built on.  In some areas, the pollution has seeped into the water table and streams and it will take many years and enormous amounts of energy and finance to remove the contaminates. In the hot summer of 1976 I actually saw an inner city canal so polluted that the surface caught fire!

Every industry I can think of has had to change with regulation for public benefit, be it environmental, health and safety or to curtail illegality.

But, perhaps we were better of in the good old days before the 'plethora of regulations', with stinking tanneries, pneumoconiosis, outside privies, children up chimneys and down mines, rickets, lead poisoning....   

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 09, 2015, 01:59:09 pm
When billy Simpson had the yard it was rag and bone small scrap metal ,this guy has increased the yard size no end , the prefabs were near there .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: stefos on October 09, 2015, 07:14:25 pm
Re-Billy Simpson scrapyard.

Back in the day when I used to go boat fishing in the bay one of the 'hotspots' was to line up the lighthouse with the little Orme and the chimney in Billy Simpson scrapyard visible between the Crescent Hotel and the one next to it before weighing anchor.
 One day it took an age trying to find the spot only to eventually realise that they had knocked down the chimney!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 14, 2015, 07:47:17 am
Just had a look at this years Xmas Fayre,amazing every organisation in wales is supporting and they charge
£1.50 to get in,if only the Extravaganza could charge and have all those bodies behind them,we could scrap the funfair altogether,happy days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on October 17, 2015, 02:50:43 pm
I wish we could get half of Oscar back,the half that gave us information about developments and the one who put pressure on oue councils because since the dimiese of Oscar there is no interest in whats going on in town whatsoever,nothing and nobody really bothers on here anymore which is a shame but hey ho thats life.
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Post by: Ian on October 17, 2015, 05:05:40 pm
The news about developments was fed by those wanting to get the information out, Wrex. We're more than willing to post information on here anonymously if folk wish to feed it to us and we'd preserve the anonymity of the contributor. But we won't publish anything we can't substantiate.

On the other tack - the interest in what's happening - this is the nature of democracy. Most don't worry until and unless it affects them directly. This is why so few actually join political parties.  Remember - most read Oscar not because of breaking news but because of the slanging matches that transpired regularly among contributors.

So it's up to you and anyone else who feels strongly enough to contribute.
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Post by: Fester on October 18, 2015, 12:14:41 am
The best thing on Oscar was the mindless violence between E-Thug and Ted E Bear....      OK, not really.

But, I'm looking forward to 'Observations of Wrex'     
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Post by: born2run on October 30, 2015, 12:36:08 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/plans-give-llandudno-sandy-beach-3566519#ICID=sharebar_facebook (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/plans-give-llandudno-sandy-beach-3566519#ICID=sharebar_facebook)
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Post by: born2run on October 30, 2015, 12:37:01 pm
Hopes that a permanent solution can be found to the problem of a popular beach’s lost sand have been raised.

In recent years sand on Llandudno’s North Shore has been covered by rocks and stones, meaning the area once known as Kiddies’ Corner is no longer a prime spot for sandcastle building.


Earlier this year, Conwy County Council transported thousands of tonnes of sand from the West Shore to try to replenish the beach, but according to pleasure boat operator John Storer this has only been a partial success.

“If you simply dump large amounts of sand, especially unsuitable sand of the fine, windblown type cleared from West Shore, on top of the accumulated rocks and stones it’s the equivalent of trying build the brick walls of a house first, and then the foundations later.

“The area must be cleared of stones first, and then the existing sand beneath them will be uncovered,” he said.

Mr Storer, who operates pleasure boat trips from the North Shore jetty, says a small trial carried out by his company has revealed that the importation of sand isn’t necessary.

“Removal of the rocks,  and riddling the beach material, leaves a nice area of sand for people to enjoy.

“If sufficient very large rocks were imported to form a groyne to the north west and parallel to the far jetty this would suffice to prevent the migration of rocks and stones from the foot of the Orme and would see the return of the traditional children’s corner,” he suggested.

Cllr Mike Priestley, Conwy Council’s cabinet member for highways, said he was hoping to put measures in place to remove the rocks and stones from that part of the beach.

He explained: “We’ve put in a formal request for an alteration to the licence which allows us to do work on the beach, to permit the removal of all the rock and stones from kiddies’ corner.

“We are determined to improve the area, and it’s a work in progress. Once the rocks are removed we will then be able to keep the beach clear of stones by using a surf rake to maintain the sandy area.

“We are committed to making improvements and hopefully will be able to carry out the work before too long.”

And he complimented Mr Storer on work his company has carried out to repair the main jetty after it was damaged by winter storms.

“They have done a fantastic job to restore an important amenity and we appreciate it,” he added.
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Post by: FatAndy on October 30, 2015, 03:57:04 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/plans-give-llandudno-sandy-beach-3566519#ICID=sharebar_facebook (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/plans-give-llandudno-sandy-beach-3566519#ICID=sharebar_facebook)

This link is from May 2013.
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Post by: born2run on October 30, 2015, 04:44:27 pm
 :o

Should definitely be back by now then
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Post by: pebbles on October 31, 2015, 12:31:52 am
Quick question about the fireworks display this year, which i think is for Sat 7 Nov.

They do it from the pier yes? So are people allowed to be in Happy Valley, or do they kind of fence the road behind the grand hotel off and stop people going that way in case "too near" to the fireworks? We were thinking of either being on the benches at the bottom of HV above the LL sign, or on the pavement below by the entrance down to the rocks. Any of that allowed based on pervious years you lucky people who live there?!  ;D

 $walesflag$
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Post by: Jack on October 31, 2015, 07:38:53 am
Quick question about the fireworks display this year, which i think is for Sat 7 Nov.

They do it from the pier yes? So are people allowed to be in Happy Valley, or do they kind of fence the road behind the grand hotel off and stop people going that way in case "too near" to the fireworks? We were thinking of either being on the benches at the bottom of HV above the LL sign, or on the pavement below by the entrance down to the rocks. Any of that allowed based on pervious years you lucky people who live there?!  ;D

 $walesflag$

If it is anything like previous years it is pretty much access all areas except the pier itself. Many people watch it from Happy Valley and many continue up the Toll Road and watch it from there. Great acoustics from that end of town.
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Post by: Ian on October 31, 2015, 08:22:06 am
Best place we found some time ago was from the cable car station.
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Post by: SDQ on October 31, 2015, 10:16:57 am
Best place we found some time ago was from the cable car station.


Aberdeen Hill.
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Post by: Fester on October 31, 2015, 07:28:39 pm
Best place we found some time ago was from the cable car station.

That's where we usually go.
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Post by: OrmeMac on November 01, 2015, 11:13:42 am
Best place we found some time ago was from the cable car station.

Bit OT but why and when was the "cabin lift" renamed "cable car"?
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Post by: wrex on November 01, 2015, 12:32:07 pm
yesterday
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Post by: Fester on November 01, 2015, 06:33:46 pm
I've never known it called Cabin Lift?
It has had Cable Car emblazoned on the sign for at least 10 years to my knowledge.

By the way, the glorious November sunshine gave way to a mysterious and chilly sea mist at 2pm today.

This was the view out to sea, and a very spooky looking scene as it enveloped The Grand Hotel.

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Post by: OrmeMac on November 02, 2015, 11:13:15 am
I've never known it called Cabin Lift?
It has had Cable Car emblazoned on the sign for at least 10 years to my knowledge.

Difficult to make out in this video but on opening in 1969 and at least throughout the '70s it had "cabin lift" on the base station in Happy Valley and this was also used on postcards of that era as well.

https://youtu.be/Cv-zCdDxJlU (https://youtu.be/Cv-zCdDxJlU)

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Post by: hollins on November 02, 2015, 11:27:48 am
Just to confuse things even more in most ski resorts the type of continuous lift with separate cabins is called a gondola lift, first photo.
The second photo is a cable car.
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Post by: Fester on November 02, 2015, 10:27:55 pm
Well, 2nd November, and the weather was glorious enough to sit at the end of Llandudno Pier, and do this....
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 03, 2015, 08:49:51 am
Amazing how warm it is really!
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Post by: SDQ on November 03, 2015, 10:42:14 am
Amazing how warm it is really!


If this is global warming I'm all for it.
I don't feel so guilty about driving a VW diesel now!
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Post by: pebbles on November 03, 2015, 04:26:46 pm
Thanks about the fireworks you guys, appreciate it  $thanx$

Oh and re the cabin lift - yeah we all still call it that, such as "are the cabins running today" to work out if it's windy up top ;)
As the pic posted further above shows, the massive writing on the side said Cabin Lift, it's on some of my own childhood photos from the early 80s. If my memory is correct it got took down around 87 and changed to the "modern" (but wrong!) cable car. But just as the golden goose changed to leisure island in 86/87, they'll always be the goose and the cabins to me  ;D
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Post by: DaveR on November 04, 2015, 09:54:21 am
 It started out life as the Llandudno Cabin Lift Co. Ltd in 1969 but changed its name to the Llandudno Cable Car Ltd in 1988.

Some history from an old blog post of mine...

It's the Longest Aerial Cable Car in the United Kingdom, with the distance between the two stations at Happy Valley and the Great Orme Summit being 1 mile and 40 feet exactly (5,320 feet).

While we are dealing with the stats.....
The Happy Valley Station is 135 feet above Sea level.
The Summit Station is 651 feet above Sea level.
There are 42 Cabins that travel at 600 feet per minute.
There are 9 intermediate tapering steel trestles support the cable between the stations.
The tallest trestle is 80 feet high with a base 5 feet 6 inches square - it weighs 15.3 tons.
675 tons of concrete were used for the foundations and the steelwork weighs over 100 tons.
The longest span between the trestles is 1,023 feet.
The Cabins reach a maximum height of 160 feet above ground.
Each Cabin seats a maximum of 4 people
Each Cabin takes 9 minutes to reach the Summit (or vice versa)
Each Cabin is supported on an endless steel cable 2 miles long, weighing over 17 tons.
The hourly capacity of the Cable Car is stated to be 500 persons.
On an average day, each Cabin covers about 60 miles.
The cable has a nominal breaking strain of 50 tons, the factor of safety is 5.2.
The cabin lift is driven by a 100 h.p. slip ring electric induction motor at 1450 r.p.m.
A 50 h.p. internal combustion stand-by engine is kept in readiness for bringing cabins into the stations in case of power failure.

Built at a cost of £125,000 (the contractor was British Chairlifts Limited/British Ropeway Engineering Co. Ltd who had previously built the EXPO 67 Cabin Lift: Details here), it was the idea of a Uttoxeter businessman called Anthony Bagshaw who had previously been involved with the Alton Towers theme park (where a similar Cabin Lift had been installed in 1963). It was opened for business by Lord Mostyn on the 20th June 1969 (after a certain amount of local opposition in the Council Chamber to the 'new fangled' idea which was rejected outright the first time it was proposed). It was also fully renovated in 2006 following the sale of the business by Uttoxeter Investment Co. Ltd. The purchaser was a local man, Andrew Jones, of Pyllau Farm on the Great Orme, who says he used to tell people that one day he would own it. He was also one of the first passengers when it originally opened in 1969.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 04, 2015, 10:30:13 am
So if it is one mile and 40 feet long each way, how come the cable is only 2 miles long? Cost cutting or have the metal thieves made a visit?  ;)
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Post by: wrex on November 05, 2015, 06:01:20 pm
I saw on the news this morning that a shopping center opens today in Bradford after 10 years so maybe we should not worry about the Tudno Castle hotel or Tudno Point as its named.As the developers and mostyn estates have failed to attract anyone else into the building maybe 10 years will be a good marker,i just hope any prospective tennants don;t come along to see the town council xmas light display in Mostyn st as there ain;t one xmas light been put up.
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Post by: wrex on November 05, 2015, 07:28:14 pm
SO,SO SORRY ,THERE IS A LIGHT ON A LAMP POST OUTSIDE tRINITY CHURCH,THEY MUST HAVE HAD SPECIAL PERMISSION TO PUT IT ON THERE
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Post by: OrmeMac on November 05, 2015, 07:43:53 pm
It started out life as the Llandudno Cabin Lift Co. Ltd in 1969 but changed its name to the Llandudno Cable Car Ltd in 1988.

Thanks for the info - lots of stuff that was new to me.
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Post by: Blongb on November 06, 2015, 03:59:42 pm
After giving several Seafront Hotels letters of warning this Autumn for displaying coloured lights on their premises, the Council had better be very careful what lights they decide to display as they will be in breach of their own self imposed regulations. Or is it one rule for the Council again and another for everyone else?  &shake&
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Post by: norman08 on November 06, 2015, 05:49:52 pm
Took a walk up town today ,What a mess this council are really letting our town go down by bog island is such a mess ,their should be a massive Xmas tree there greeting all the traffic comming up Conwy road ,don't tell me They are the lights in the tree outside the toilet  :rage:
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Post by: wrex on November 07, 2015, 11:46:01 am
Thank god Norm made a comment,people on here have given up or are just bored with my same old rants about xmas lights,happy valley water features and the town beach,obviousley i would like some support as all things i mention never change,never get fixed and we seem so happy the town council don;t give a HOOT to be polite
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Post by: Hugo on November 07, 2015, 01:15:33 pm
Everything you have said is spot on Wrex, people are concerned about the matters you have pointed out in all your postings.   The problems can only be attributed to the local Councillors and the CCBC.
The truth is that no one in the Council is prepared to stand up and challenge the others.    I'm old enough to have seen the Council spoiling the West shore with it's man made disaster of a sea defence and then adding insult to injury by making the North Shore look like a quarry.
They clamp down heavily on colours of the hotels such as the "Pink Hotel" and UPVC windows but on the more important issues they just hang their heads down and vote on things like a nodding Donkey.
Who is to blame for the Pier Pavillion,  Penmorfa Hotel and all the other eyesores?     CCBC has the power to challenge all those issues but for whatever reason decides not to do so.
Don't go looking for help from Mostyn Estates either because they are only interested in Mostyn Estates and no one else.    Keep your eye open for the Castle Hotel and the former Llandudno Youth club as Mostyn Estates is the owner of the properties and freehold but will they ensure that the buildings are kept safe.  Only time will tell.
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Post by: snowcap on November 07, 2015, 09:43:31 pm
Just got back from one of the best firework displays I have seen in years, We were stood in happy valley and watched the show that was none stop for 28 minuets Well done to the organisers who did an excellent job.
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Post by: TheMedz on November 07, 2015, 09:55:06 pm
Totally agree on the quality of the display. We usually watch down on the display from on the Orme but couldnt get up there this year so we went down to near the pool on the prom. Different perspective but equally good viewing. Then had the bonus of watching the Bodafon diplay on the way back to the car.
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Post by: Dave on November 07, 2015, 09:57:28 pm
Just got back from one of the best firework displays I have seen in years, We were stood in happy valley and watched the show that was none stop for 28 minuets Well done to the organisers who did an excellent job.

I thought that it was a bit tame for much of the time and personally would prefer to see more spectacular action in a shorter time span. I was bored for much of the time. However, I do think that if you have driven some distance you probably expect a show to last longer than 15 minutes, I'm lucky and can simply wander out of the house to watch and go back in again straight after!
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Post by: Dave on November 07, 2015, 09:59:52 pm
Totally agree on the quality of the display. We usually watch down on the display from on the Orme but couldnt get up there this year so we went down to near the pool on the prom. Different perspective but equally good viewing. Then had the bonus of watching the Bodafon diplay on the way back to the car.

Without a doubt one of Llandudno's biggest benefits is that you get the reflections off the sea. Best viewed from the Craig -y-Don end, but for sound it's probably better from Happy Valley.
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Post by: DaveR on November 10, 2015, 08:52:21 am
The Rememberance Sunday service at the Cenotaph was very well attended this year, good to see.

I noticed that there were a lot of staff from CCBC Highways dotted around the town, are they now responsible for road closures instead of the Police?
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Post by: Giggly girl on November 12, 2015, 07:12:27 pm
Well they were not around at the Air Show, so perhaps it is now not their responsibility to manage events.
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Post by: Fester on November 15, 2015, 10:38:13 pm
It was very wild and moody at West Shore this afternoon.
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Post by: Hugo on November 15, 2015, 11:06:35 pm
Very impressive Fester and captured the conditions on the West Shore.    I was there earlier today and didn't even get out of my car to take the dog for a walk it was that bad.
A coastguard 4 x 4 overtook me with it's lights on and went down the cycle track towards Deganwy but I don't know what had happened there.
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Post by: pebbles on November 16, 2015, 01:12:36 am
^ i can give you a tip of how to make the horizon straight if you'd like fester, posting a picture with a dodgy horizon is appalling!   ;D  :P _))*

Ahh only kidding, a joke for those with longish memories ;)

If the weather was anything like here i'm surprised LL hasn't been sunk underwater by now it's that bad!
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Post by: hollins on November 16, 2015, 07:46:26 am
Great pics Mr F, very atmospheric.
Fester the new DaveR?
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Post by: Hugo on November 16, 2015, 10:36:31 am
The weather has been appalling this weekend but if we think it's bad here then what can it be like for Mull up there in Scotland?
He must be ok as I've noticed that he's been looking at the forum recently.
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Post by: hollins on November 16, 2015, 11:20:06 am
Yes, I was wondering how Mull was too. I thought the roof was coming off here last night.
I have enjoyed the series about the Scottish Islands which has been on BBC2 recently and I thought of him when the Mull programme was shown.
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Post by: Fester on November 16, 2015, 03:54:17 pm
^ i can give you a tip of how to make the horizon straight if you'd like fester, posting a picture with a dodgy horizon is appalling!   ;D  :P _))*

Ahh only kidding, a joke for those with longish memories ;)

If the weather was anything like here i'm surprised LL hasn't been sunk underwater by now it's that bad!

I'd a couple of pints in The Liverpool Arms, Conwy.... and was using my crappy iphone,  sorry... best I could do!
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Post by: mull on November 16, 2015, 06:02:25 pm
Thanks for thinking about us up here. Mrs Mull finding jobs around the house, not my scene at all but with weather like this can not be avoided.
Should of been going to Oban MRT meeting this evening but am stuck on the island all the ferries cancelled. Been blowing F 8/10 all day with frequent squally showers.
I see one of our ferries is just off Llandudno/Colwyn Bay at the moment running trials.She has been in dry dock in Birkenhead for about 3 weeks now and is overdue back up here to release the next one for dry docking. MV "Lord of the Isles" on AIS.
Hope it calms down by Friday for my trip to Lidl/Tesco/Aldi in Oban or we will starve.
How the West Shore sandhills today ?
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Post by: pebbles on November 17, 2015, 01:11:14 am

I'd a couple of pints in The Liverpool Arms, Conwy.... and was using my crappy iphone,  sorry... best I could do!

heh that's ok fester!  $drink$  $drink1$

was a little dig i mean errr reference to when i posted a lot of pics - one of which was ever so slightly off on the horizon, and the delightful Ian made it his mission to teach me the error of my ways... which i took great offence at hehe as you can tell by the way i still remember it!  WWW

(it was last year i think and it was a pic from 10 years ago and none of mine are ever wonky since, hence feeling offended! so SOMEONE had to come and chastise you fester, it's forum tradition)  _))*
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Post by: wrex on November 17, 2015, 05:20:15 pm
I think Mostyn estates are moving their workshop from Broadway to the old North Wales joinery workshop so expect maybe a planning application for somethink on the Broadway.
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Post by: mull on November 19, 2015, 11:59:48 am
Stornoway ferry "Loch Seaforth" now going round the windmills.
She also has been in Birkenhead for about 3 weeks and is overdue back into service.
If it carries on like this Calmac will be short of a large ferry for start of next years Summer service.
Now all the fares have been reduced by 50/60% with Road Equivilant Tarriff (RET) we will need all the ships in service to cope with all you holidaymakers taking advantage of it.
How the single track roads on Mull will cope. Holyrood not thought that through.
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Post by: Fester on November 21, 2015, 11:12:56 pm
I was informed by a town Councillor that, due to some trouble breaking out in a Madoc Street pub on Friday, the alcohol license for the Xmas Fayre was revoked.
However, on Saturday I was told that it was actually due to the Fayre organisers having applied for the WRONG type of license, and had it been revoked for that reason.

Whatever the reason, the license was pulled, and the stall holders who were affected were spitting feathers on Saturday.
No mulled wine, no craft beers, nothing.
What a state of affairs.   &shake& &shake&
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Post by: Cambrian on November 22, 2015, 03:06:44 pm
Possibly the Albert and Cross Keys benefited!
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 23, 2015, 08:12:42 am
We had a quick look at the xmas fair yesterday, nothing much of interest to us, but what was the point of the pay stations? Why would anyone pay £1.50 when you can walk down the road for free?  ???
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Post by: Nemesis on November 23, 2015, 09:00:04 am
You paid your £1.50 and were given a paper band glued round your wrist which you had to show to get into the tents. I went on Thursday mainly to support Hope House who were selling Christmas cards squashed in the porch of the church ( free entry there!), but found the tents very busy, especially the huge one. Much the same as usual, but more spread out and more food for sale. Didn't buy anything, but have done my bit by knitting Christmassy bits to sell in the shop.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 23, 2015, 10:08:06 am
We didn't go in the tents, big queues and I have little interest in food anyway!
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Post by: llewelyn on November 23, 2015, 02:39:23 pm
Bit like the Conwy Feast, tents packed, cant get near the counters for freeloaders trying to eat the entry costs in free samples.
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Post by: Fester on November 25, 2015, 07:20:35 pm
The Xmas Fayre got slammed very badly on it's own Facebook page, by customers and stall holders alike.
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Post by: Fester on December 01, 2015, 01:37:10 pm
This scaffolding is to the rear of The Grand Hotel, looking at it from the Pier today.

Some work going on which is nice to see, but I can't help but admire the bravery of those who erected it!
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Post by: Gwynant on December 02, 2015, 09:19:41 am
                        Colourful cloud formations in Llandudno earlier this morning, looked like a nuclear explosion, a bit like the sunsets recently. Make the most of the sunlight, it looks like a miserable couple of days to come according to the local forecast.
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Post by: Ian on December 02, 2015, 10:09:01 am
Stunning.  And you're right about the nuclear explosion.
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Post by: DaveR on December 02, 2015, 10:24:00 am
The recent bouts of heavy rain have once again highlighted the poor state of the drains in Llandudno Town Centre. There was heavy flooding around the Carlton Roundabout the other day and also along Mostyn Street by W H Smith. In many cases, it is simply a case of the drains not being cleared of leaves and other rubbish on a regular basis.
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Post by: Hugo on December 02, 2015, 02:45:55 pm
This type of thing doesn't help with the drainage of the town.
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Post by: mull on December 02, 2015, 09:25:32 pm
Hi Hugo,

Bet that was West Shore !
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Post by: Hugo on December 02, 2015, 10:26:50 pm
A good guess Mull, well done.

At least the drainage on the West Shore boating lake seems to be working!       ???
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Post by: Hugo on December 02, 2015, 10:30:03 pm
                        Colourful cloud formations in Llandudno earlier this morning, looked like a nuclear explosion, a bit like the sunsets recently. Make the most of the sunlight, it looks like a miserable couple of days to come according to the local forecast.

Great photos Gwynant, they must have been taken well before I got up that morning.
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Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2015, 09:09:09 am
This scaffolding is to the rear of The Grand Hotel, looking at it from the Pier today.

Some work going on which is nice to see, but I can't help but admire the bravery of those who erected it!
I wonder if a decent high tide could cause that scaffolding to collapse, as it can get quite rough on that corner.
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Post by: Blongb on December 03, 2015, 04:12:22 pm
This scaffolding is to the rear of The Grand Hotel, looking at it from the Pier today.

Some work going on which is nice to see, but I can't help but admire the bravery of those who erected it!
I wonder if a decent high tide could cause that scaffolding to collapse, as it can get quite rough on that corner.
Back in 1996 I was working along-side the Brent Delta Oil Rig, at the top end of the North Sea. The Scaffolders, who were without question some of the best in the world, spent a whole week erecting platforming under the main deck of the Rig. On the seventh night one of our Winter Storms went through and the whole lot was gone by Morning.

So in answer to your question Dave, yes it could very easily get washed away  <:<:<:<
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Post by: DaveR on December 05, 2015, 11:50:33 am
Lots of storm damage around town. Police have closed the road at the side of the Swimming Pool.
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Post by: SDQ on December 05, 2015, 02:07:08 pm
Lots of storm damage around town. Police have closed the road at the side of the Swimming Pool.


That was closed off when I went past at ten o'clock last night.
Poor policeman stood in the rain diverting traffic!
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Post by: DaveR on December 10, 2015, 10:19:39 am
Man knocked down by car in Llandudno
09:36, 10 DEC 2015 UPDATED 09:36, 10 DEC 2015
BY MARI JONES

Man was taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd with “possible” serious injuries

Paramedics took the injured man was taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd Paramedics took the injured man was taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd

A man was knocked down by a car last night in Llandudno .

Paramedics took the injured man to Ysbyty Gwynedd with “possible” serious injuries.

The incident closed the part of the promenade for several hours from the St George Hotel to Venue Cymru.

Emergency services were called to the scene at 10.07pm.

The accident involved on car and the male pedestrian.

One ambulance, one rapid response vehicle and a doctor were sent to the scene.

An ambulance spokeswoman said: “A male pedestrian with possible serious injuries was taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd.”

Police are asking for witnesses to contact them on 101 quoting reference S188180.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-knocked-down-car-llandudno-10577402 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-knocked-down-car-llandudno-10577402)
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Post by: Gwynant on December 14, 2015, 08:37:16 am
                    Another impressive sunrise at about 0800 in Llandudno.
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Post by: born2run on December 18, 2015, 01:05:16 pm
A nice article

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalgia/30-things-you-only-know-10599056 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalgia/30-things-you-only-know-10599056)
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Post by: born2run on December 18, 2015, 01:06:23 pm
Although to be fair it looks as though they've copied it ad verbatim from the facebook page
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Post by: born2run on December 18, 2015, 01:06:45 pm
What did I say about lazy journalists again?  :twoface:
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Post by: Greyhound on December 18, 2015, 01:14:04 pm
Some of these are pretty obscure and a couple you'd have to be well over 80 to have experienced! I can think of a few more obvious ones.
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Post by: squiggle on December 18, 2015, 02:08:36 pm
I think I scored 4 with a couple of maybe half marks. I'll mention the halfs.

I remember Llanudo before Mostyn Champneys but home from school for me was catching the M25 from Oxford Road.

I was only there for the first 2 years of secondary education but we used to go from the Trinity Avenue block to the other place for sport.  Sure I knew there used to be Mostyn and John Bright but I'm to young for that.

I did hear of the fire at ASDA via family friends but I was living near Tunbridge Wells at the time.

Llanwrst cricket club used to have an annual outing to the IOM and I went on the pier a couple of times with my mother to collect my father from the boat. The closest I came to having a boat trip was the last sailing which I guess would have been early 80s?  A customer at the place I worked at the time worked for the Isle Of Man Steam Packet Company and he gave me a free pass.  Unfortunately, I was unable to get the day off work.
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Post by: DaveR on December 18, 2015, 02:43:07 pm
Although to be fair it looks as though they've copied it ad verbatim from the facebook page
I think the list may originally have appeared on the original Llandudno forum?
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Post by: born2run on December 18, 2015, 02:51:56 pm
Although to be fair it looks as though they've copied it ad verbatim from the facebook page
I think the list may originally have appeared on the original Llandudno forum?

No idea, I'm not as old as you Dave  ;)
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Post by: Nemesis on December 19, 2015, 09:07:43 am
Last night , 10.15 ish we were walking the dog along Gloddaeth Street when I glanced behind us and said to my OH " Just stand in the side of the pavement, there is a man coming along with a huge dog." He did so and said, " Heck it is the size of a pony". We looked again as it came nearer and it was a pony ! :o Neither of us drink, so we didn't imagine it, but anyone know why a man would be walking a pony on a lead on there at that time of night? There wasn't a panto show last night, so it hadn't been there, but we wondered if it had been disguised as Mary's donkey in a nativity !
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Post by: cygnusx-1 on December 19, 2015, 10:23:35 am
There is no law against walking a horse in Gloddaeth Street after dark as I an sure it was a regular sight 100 years ago.
Did they go into the Cottage Loaf and sit outside by any chance?
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Post by: Nemesis on December 19, 2015, 11:44:09 am
I'm sure not ! No they were too far on Gloddaeth to go to the Loaf, they crossed the bottom of Clement Ave and carried on past the new flats towards West Shore.
Hope we see him again tonight ! D)
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Post by: Cambrian on December 19, 2015, 12:07:49 pm
There was a man dressed up in some sort of military-style redcoat in Mostyn Street this morning.  He was walking what seemed to be a Shetland pony.  Sounds like it could be the same duo.
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Post by: Nemesis on December 19, 2015, 03:54:55 pm
Ah ! The pony had some kind of Medieval garb over it, but the chap was in an ordinary jacket. The pony was a dark colour and larger than a Shetland!------ Mystery !

Monkey Man is dressed in his soldier's outfit at the moment, but it wasn't him !
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Post by: wrex on December 20, 2015, 07:24:29 am
Maybe the town council paid him to add a bit of xmas spirit in town like all the brass bands they have organized this xmas,opps did i get that wrong,sorry.
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Post by: Ian on December 20, 2015, 08:31:57 am
I was wondering when your Christmas refrain was going to reappear, Wrex :-)))
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Post by: wrex on December 20, 2015, 11:56:17 am
Have i miss something,loads of lights out,no re-schedule of santa parade,it could have been just santa biut to ot even have santa come back is poor but i have just read that the taxi marshalls havre been doing a good job
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Post by: Nemesis on December 20, 2015, 11:58:12 am
There was a man dressed up in some sort of military-style redcoat in Mostyn Street this morning.  He was walking what seemed to be a Shetland pony.  Sounds like it could be the same duo.

Mystery solved ! Taffy the pony accompanied by a tall man in a military looking coat, is standing outside the Victoria Centre with a bucket collecting money. He was telling people that he was a street entertainer and was not connected to the Military in any way. He didn’t specify what he was collecting money for.
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Post by: Fester on December 20, 2015, 04:27:32 pm
Here is is, pictured today.
He appeared to be collecting money, (lots of it), just for himself!


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Post by: Gwynant on December 26, 2015, 02:54:28 pm
                        Red and white Rescue Helicopter just landed on Llandudno Rugby field and took off again, almost immediately.  The gale-force gusts were really testing the pilot's skills.
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Post by: Hugo on December 26, 2015, 03:44:12 pm
Any more news on that helicopter landing Gwynant?
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Post by: Gwynant on December 26, 2015, 03:57:28 pm
Any more news on that helicopter landing Gwynant?
         I don't know any more Hugo, it came in very low from the east and then landed on the Rugby field for a couple of mimutes and then took off heading off to the West. It might have picked  up or dropped someone off but I couldn't see once it had dropped out of sight behind the houses on Rhuddlan Avenue. I don't know if there was a rugby game in progress in which there could have been an injury as the traditional Llandudno XV v. John Brights Old Boys used to always be on Boxing Day but due to the current weather I haven't been out of the house since going for the paper early this morning!
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Post by: norman08 on December 26, 2015, 04:11:31 pm
Been told it picked two guys up then went over west shore way could have been to do with the a55 being closed .
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Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2015, 04:17:11 pm
It says on Facebook that it was 2 paramedics being taken to work.
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Post by: Hugo on December 27, 2015, 02:53:47 pm
After the recent wet and windy weather it was good to see so many people walking on the Promenade and making the most of the dry sunny day.
I popped over to the West Shore and that Promenade was packed too with people enjoying the day.    There was no wind there either which made it a bonus but the Boating Lake had overflown quite a bit.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 27, 2015, 08:11:32 pm
I have never seen that flooded before!
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Post by: norman08 on December 27, 2015, 09:03:55 pm
Has been like that about two weeks now .
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Post by: snowcap on December 27, 2015, 10:19:35 pm
The Overflow must be blocked
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Post by: Gwynant on December 28, 2015, 08:32:46 am
Has been like that about two weeks now .
          Good thing you took those photos yesterday Hugo because as Norman says it's been getting fuller and fuller over the last two weeks but when I went past it earlier this morning it had been completely drained. I think the stream which flows out of the Orme behind Abbey Place flows into the pond by where the White Rabbit was previously positioned so that has to go somewhere as well as the excessive recent rainfall.
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Post by: Ian on December 28, 2015, 08:51:11 am
Capel Curig had more than 41" of rain during December, according to the BBC.
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Post by: Big Alan on December 30, 2015, 05:27:10 pm
Anyone got any idea as to what was going on earlier this afternoon in the road behind the Albert pub? 4 police cars and a matrix van!
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Post by: DaveR on December 31, 2015, 09:16:55 am
Anyone got any idea as to what was going on earlier this afternoon in the road behind the Albert pub? 4 police cars and a matrix van!
Nothing in the Daily Post that I could see.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 01, 2016, 06:32:27 pm

Llandudno restaurant to be revealed

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/156758/llandudno-restaurant-to-be-revealed.aspx#.VobFv4mQFQw.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/156758/llandudno-restaurant-to-be-revealed.aspx#.VobFv4mQFQw.email)
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Post by: snowcap on January 01, 2016, 08:53:11 pm
Happy New Year to all on the forum, Looking forward to reading more of your posts. Good luck to all
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Post by: born2run on January 04, 2016, 04:49:49 pm

Llandudno restaurant to be revealed

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/156758/llandudno-restaurant-to-be-revealed.aspx#.VobFv4mQFQw.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/156758/llandudno-restaurant-to-be-revealed.aspx#.VobFv4mQFQw.email)

Nandos
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Post by: Greyhound on January 04, 2016, 04:56:37 pm
Interesting. Would be a popular choice and would certainly widen choice in the town. Where did you find this out?
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Post by: born2run on January 04, 2016, 04:58:06 pm
Are you asking my source?
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Post by: Greyhound on January 04, 2016, 04:59:18 pm
Yes, I guess I am.
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Post by: born2run on January 04, 2016, 05:26:48 pm
Piri Piri
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Post by: born2run on January 04, 2016, 05:28:09 pm
sorry
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Post by: Fester on January 04, 2016, 05:29:45 pm
Piri Piri

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: squiggle on January 04, 2016, 06:42:59 pm
Piri Piri

I had to look that up - it sounds posh - but there again,

A wild drift but perrhaps I grew up with a mixture of "salt, mustard vinegar and pepper" and for afters, "yellow matted custard". Life was hard being b 1960 and living in the Llandudno area.

Of course that is all tongue in cheek and I think I only learned the latter in the playground, I do feel grateful to Glanwydden school and in those days Dafydd Williams followed by Mrs Parker after he was ill. whether it was things in a language I still don't speak like dacw mam yn dwad or to the (In my humble opinion wonderful) Calon Lan, there are things you remember in some ways and there of course was Singing Together - the BBC Shcools radio programme.

For my own amateur folk music interests, I'm grateful for my time there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 05, 2016, 09:12:53 am
I like folk music as well, have you ever been to Conwy Folk Club?
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Post by: DaveR on January 05, 2016, 09:35:27 am

Llandudno restaurant to be revealed

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/156758/llandudno-restaurant-to-be-revealed.aspx#.VobFv4mQFQw.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/156758/llandudno-restaurant-to-be-revealed.aspx#.VobFv4mQFQw.email)

Nandos
Nandos has never been my favourite, would have preferred a La Tasca myself but there you go.  $walesflag$
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Post by: DaveR on January 05, 2016, 09:36:16 am
Work will shortly be starting on the new Lifeboat Station by Craig Y Don Paddling Pool, a sign has gone up on the site.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 10:00:16 am
I like folk music as well, have you ever been to Conwy Folk Club?

I was one of several people involved at the start of the Conwy club when it was on the boat on the quay.

The only N Wales venue I've got to just the once since leaving the area some time around 2000 was the Irish session in Bangor, at that time at the Nelson. I am possibly aware of most folk clubs that existed in the area from the early 80s until that time and have been to clubs from say Denbigh to Bangor.

In the later 80s, through a combination of revisiting the Dubliners but listening more to Barney McKenna's playing, wanting something instrumental but (to me) a bit more than the morris dance tunes, learning of the Irish session in Bangor (which incidentally has it's origins in the 60s at the Ship Launch - took me years to hear of it...), etc. etc. got more interested in the tune/session side of things.  I'm not very good at it (although a stable enough "2nd/3rd violin" in a session going well and pulling everyone along) but that's where my first love in the vast area of "folk music" lay for a long while.

I say lay as over the past 12 months I have been trying to revisit the guitar (as opposed to being heavily GDAE tuned fretted strings, eg. mandolin, tenor banjo) and some songs more.

Do you participate in any of the local events?
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Post by: born2run on January 05, 2016, 10:42:20 am
I like folk music as well, have you ever been to Conwy Folk Club?

I was one of several people involved at the start of the Conwy club when it was on the boat on the quay.

The only N Wales venue I've got to just the once since leaving the area some time around 2000 was the Irish session in Bangor, at that time at the Nelson. I am possibly aware of most folk clubs that existed in the area from the early 80s until that time and have been to clubs from say Denbigh to Bangor.

In the later 80s, through a combination of revisiting the Dubliners but listening more to Barney McKenna's playing, wanting something instrumental but (to me) a bit more than the morris dance tunes, learning of the Irish session in Bangor (which incidentally has it's origins in the 60s at the Ship Launch - took me years to hear of it...), etc. etc. got more interested in the tune/session side of things.  I'm not very good at it (although a stable enough "2nd/3rd violin" in a session going well and pulling everyone along) but that's where my first love in the vast area of "folk music" lay for a long while.

I say lay as over the past 12 months I have been trying to revisit the guitar (as opposed to being heavily GDAE tuned fretted strings, eg. mandolin, tenor banjo) and some songs more.

Do you participate in any of the local events?

Not too much local stuff, I've organised the Wigan Irish Festival for the past few years which has been a great event. However organising festivals is incredibly stressful! think I prefer the sitting back with a real ale watching a festival to be honest. I thought the Conwy Food festival was brilliant.
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Post by: born2run on January 05, 2016, 10:51:50 am
Although this should probably be in the Conwy or events bit. We've gone quite  off topic  Z**

http://www.thechangingroommusic.com/ (http://www.thechangingroommusic.com/)

These guys are playing the Conwy Folk Club in February. A superb group. If anyone is at a loss for what to do on a Monday night.
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Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 11:15:16 am
Not too much local stuff, I've organised the Wigan Irish Festival for the past few years which has been a great event. However organising festivals is incredibly stressful! think I prefer the sitting back with a real ale watching a festival to be honest. I thought the Conwy Food festival was brilliant.

I've just looked the Wigan event up. I see it even has gaelic football in the mix.  It sounds like quite and interesting cultural event.

I've only ever been involved with small local things (and sort of 99% of that as a floor spot/ session participant) but I've no difficulty imagining organising a festival can be very stressful.

I don't know the Conwy Food festival - is it relatively new?

I do have some fond memories of the earlier days of the Conwy Street Festival.  Flaco Jiminez and his Tex Mex band in the Civic hall were quite something!  Probably later but a Brass group called the Real McCaws  could liven up the bandstand by the Liverpool Arms. I was sort of spell bound by a street act called something like "Mummer and dada" - they did a short play - I think involving someone rescuing his wife/to be from Hades - in which they managed to work in knife throwing, walking on glass, a bit of acrobatics, etc.  And I always thought David Alexander was good and seemed to be able to have groups of kids with their mouths open...

I suppose arguably, a bit of a "curates egg" perhaps and I think the organisers had a hard time trying to fund some of the acts but for me anyway, not without high spots.
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Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 11:19:12 am
Although this should probably be in the Conwy or events bit. We've gone quite  off topic  Z**

Agreed.  Mods, if you see fit, is it possible to move the Conwy folk bits? (I'm not fussed either way but do feel we might be taking over Llandudno here).
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Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 11:50:58 am
http://www.thechangingroommusic.com/ (http://www.thechangingroommusic.com/)

These guys are playing the Conwy Folk Club in February. A superb group. If anyone is at a loss for what to do on a Monday night.

I'd not heard of them (but being far more get out and join in than CDs and listening these days, I've  hardly heard of anyone...).  I've just visited their site and listened to their Splann EP tracks.  From that, I'd say they do hit the right spots for me and yes, if I still lived in the area, I would look forward to that one.

Moving even further OT, when I do listen, a couple of my favourite records are the old Christy Moore Black album and the original Planxty one.  I'm guessing they fit well with your own tastes?
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Post by: born2run on January 05, 2016, 11:56:46 am
Not too much local stuff, I've organised the Wigan Irish Festival for the past few years which has been a great event. However organising festivals is incredibly stressful! think I prefer the sitting back with a real ale watching a festival to be honest. I thought the Conwy Food festival was brilliant.

I've just looked the Wigan event up. I see it even has gaelic football in the mix.  It sounds like quite and interesting cultural event.

I've only ever been involved with small local things (and sort of 99% of that as a floor spot/ session participant) but I've no difficulty imagining organising a festival can be very stressful.

I don't know the Conwy Food festival - is it relatively new?

I do have some fond memories of the earlier days of the Conwy Street Festival.  Flaco Jiminez and his Tex Mex band in the Civic hall were quite something!  Probably later but a Brass group called the Real McCaws  could liven up the bandstand by the Liverpool Arms. I was sort of spell bound by a street act called something like "Mummer and dada" - they did a short play - I think involving someone rescuing his wife/to be from Hades - in which they managed to work in knife throwing, walking on glass, a bit of acrobatics, etc.  And I always thought David Alexander was good and seemed to be able to have groups of kids with their mouths open...

I suppose arguably, a bit of a "curates egg" perhaps and I think the organisers had a hard time trying to fund some of the acts but for me anyway, not without high spots.

Yes I played for the festival Gaelic football team in the first two years, not a sport for the faint hearted! Was glad I made it to see the evening performers!

I think the Conwy food festival is quite new, last two years maybe. Last year was the first time I attended, very relaxed, friendly, great beers and good music.
The group Port Sunlight Sea Dogs who I'm a big fan of normally play at the Pirate festival as well, though when I saw them last year there it was pretty poorly attended (Closure of the Liverpool Arms didn't help)
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Post by: born2run on January 05, 2016, 11:59:41 am
http://www.thechangingroommusic.com/ (http://www.thechangingroommusic.com/)

These guys are playing the Conwy Folk Club in February. A superb group. If anyone is at a loss for what to do on a Monday night.

I'd not heard of them (but being far more get out and join in than CDs and listening these days, I've  hardly heard of anyone...).  I've just visited their site and listened to their Splann EP tracks.  From that, I'd say they do hit the right spots for me and yes, if I still lived in the area, I would look forward to that one.

Moving even further OT, when I do listen, a couple of my favourite records are the old Christy Moore Black album and the original Planxty one.  I'm guessing they fit well with your own tastes?

Yes I saw Christy Moore at venue cymru last year he was brilliant. Nobody else on this forum had heard of him I remember  L0L
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Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 12:42:42 pm
Yes I saw Christy Moore at venue cymru last year he was brilliant. Nobody else on this forum had heard of him I remember  L0L

Yep, it can be surprising that someone who's status in modern day usage of the term is "legendary" can be so little heard of but I guess folk is a minority interest.

Perhaps more surprising to me reflecting on my time in N Wales was a general lack of knowledge of the Welsh folk dance tunes.  Things did seem to be changing a bit and even I could run to say Pant Corlan Yr Wwn, Ty Coch Caerdydd, Gwyr Dfynant... and, although I was "join in", there were groups like Crasdant.

I'm going back a while but there was a Welsh session in the Garth, Bangor on a Monday night. The one time I got there it was mostly Welsh first language players which I guess some English like myself could find a bit of a struggle but it was incredibly friendly to anyone with an interest in playing some Welsh tunes.

Unfortunately transport problems, clashes of things of Mondays, etc. prevented me from visiting again but if it is still going in some shape or form, I'd recommend anyone with interests in that particular area of folk music to give it a try.
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Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 01:56:37 pm
Yes I saw Christy Moore at venue cymru last year he was brilliant. Nobody else on this forum had heard of him I remember  L0L

umm, and  trying for just one post for those here that have not heard of him.  CM is I think quite diverse in his own area of Irish folk, ranging from perhaps a gentle but wonderfully sung Galtee Mountain Boy to perhaps to me a rather thrashy "Lisdoonvarna".

I guess to pick on something that I guess would fit most varied tastes, I'll try Ride On:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J-X0TBZ0sM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J-X0TBZ0sM)
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Post by: born2run on January 05, 2016, 02:27:55 pm
Delirium Tremens is my favourite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHtWcBU9zdI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHtWcBU9zdI)
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Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 03:00:53 pm
Delirium Tremens is my favourite

Lots to choose from but perhaps I'd pick on is the Barney Rush song, Nancy Spain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH2wDyypszM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH2wDyypszM)

The one I've tried to do most, sometimes with banjo/madolin (and never matching McKenna who played on that one...) and sometimes unaccompanied is I think trad Johny Jump Up.  It's one where people get the "never again" chorus and start helping you along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8eU_aKTsCs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8eU_aKTsCs)
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Post by: born2run on January 05, 2016, 04:56:28 pm
I have never picked up a banjo myself,  although my good friend Patrick Ryan is a banjo player and from my limited knowledge I think he's a very good one, you can't beat banjo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnP8DlM0mJ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnP8DlM0mJ0)
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Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 05:38:12 pm
I have never picked up a banjo myself,  although my good friend Patrick Ryan is a banjo player and from my limited knowledge I think he's a very good one, you can't beat banjo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnP8DlM0mJ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnP8DlM0mJ0)

Just for info perhaps for others.  There are a few types of banjo.  The  5 string as used in Bluegrass (amongst other music) and familiar to many in things like the theme for Beverly Hilbillies and Duellin Banjos as played in the film Deliverence is probably the best known.  Patrick here is playing tenor banjo, an instrument that has two sorts of lives and often different tunings.  It's often tuned CDGA in trad Jazz but Irish and other folk players commonly go GDAE, keeping the 5th interval and putting it an octave below the violin and mandolin.

Born2Run. Patrick is doing far better than I would with those tunes on Youtube but I think it is in order to give a clip of the player he (and I) admires here.  Barney McKenna influenced loads of people towards the tenor banjo and is often even credited with the standardisation of the "Irish" GDAE. He reached several generations.

The clip I am giving is an older Barney McKenna. He starts of with a slow air called the Old House and has a reel in the middle who's title at the moment eludes me but it also has the two in your clip, ie. The Maid Behind The Bar and The High Reel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scawc6Q9heI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scawc6Q9heI)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: squiggle on January 05, 2016, 05:51:33 pm
(actually, there are 2 in the middle. On is the Boyne Hunt. I'm still stuck on the other)

Here btw is a much younger Barney:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKhT0K_Dhk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKhT0K_Dhk)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 07, 2016, 12:33:00 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/night-fishing-llandudno-pier-could-10697771 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/night-fishing-llandudno-pier-could-10697771)

Night fishing to be scrapped on the pier. This may make you happy Fester?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 09, 2016, 07:03:14 pm
CCBC have sold their depot on Builders st,i should imagine it be to a houseing association
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 09, 2016, 08:40:17 pm
I wonder if that will result in more affordable housing for local residents?

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 09, 2016, 10:42:09 pm
Do they ever give priority to local residents Bri?        Not in my day, I always found that people from outside the local area would jump the queue when it came to the allocation of vacant property.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 11, 2016, 09:04:28 am
CCBC have sold their depot on Builders st,i should imagine it be to a houseing association
Does that mean they have finally given up providing services in Llandudno?!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Daihardwelshman on January 11, 2016, 12:35:12 pm
if it is the place i think it is, i find it an odd place to build residential property in my view, between the railway tracks and industrial units on builder street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 11, 2016, 01:34:16 pm
In that case, the housing association could have other plans for the future use of the site.

Meanwhile, the old police station in Oxford Road is about to be demolished.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 11, 2016, 04:26:52 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fresh-bid-llandudnos-broadway-boulevard-10716857 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fresh-bid-llandudnos-broadway-boulevard-10716857)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 12, 2016, 10:05:36 am
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fresh-bid-llandudnos-broadway-boulevard-10716857 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fresh-bid-llandudnos-broadway-boulevard-10716857)
This is an interesting development. Personally, I can't see that the building would ever be a viable business again, given the vast amount of repair work needed on it. Take into account that the last two nightclub operators running the Boulevard went bust and it doesn't sound like a recipe for success.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 12, 2016, 12:33:07 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fresh-bid-llandudnos-broadway-boulevard-10716857 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fresh-bid-llandudnos-broadway-boulevard-10716857)
This is an interesting development. Personally, I can't see that the building would ever be a viable business again, given the vast amount of repair work needed on it. Take into account that the last two nightclub operators running the Boulevard went bust and it doesn't sound like a recipe for success.

wrong side of town, people too used to staying in Mostyn street now. Should turn it into a laser quest  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 12, 2016, 04:43:03 pm

Broadway was always profitable it was the firms other buiss
nesses that failed,as for building houses on the council depot it is next to Marian place so houses already there,funnily enougth because of the depot those two cul-de sacs are the only two streets in Llandudno that are permit holders only,shame for Jubilee st and Caroline rd.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 12, 2016, 04:50:51 pm
Last few times I went in there before it closed it was EMPTY so unless they were charging £200 a pint there is no way it was profitable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on January 12, 2016, 06:09:06 pm
The plot belonging to CCBC you are talking about, is it the one next to Llandudno Railway Station where the railway goods yard used to be?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on January 12, 2016, 07:09:02 pm
The plot belonging to CCBC you are talking about, is it the one next to Llandudno Railway Station where the railway goods yard used to be?


No, it's near the top of Builder Street West the other side of the railway to Alexandra Road.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on January 12, 2016, 09:22:17 pm
Won't it be the council owned building (Social Services building??) on Builder Street opposite Bather's Bakery and between Linney Cooper Carpets and the end of the old goods yard?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 13, 2016, 07:14:59 am
No its the bin wagon depot,council never owned that site.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 14, 2016, 12:48:07 pm
Won't it be the council owned building (Social Services building??) on Builder Street opposite Bather's Bakery and between Linney Cooper Carpets and the end of the old goods yard?
That site is on a Long Lease from Mostyn Esates, I think, CCBC are currently trying to offload that as well.

Where will council services in Llandudno be provided from once the depot closes? ?{}?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on January 14, 2016, 04:11:49 pm
There is a Council Depot in Llandudno Junction Dave, perhaps they will run the service from there.

Hope you don't mind me asking Wrex but are you just guessing about the depot being sold to a Housing Association or do you know something we don't?  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 14, 2016, 05:04:37 pm
Only guessing about houses but CCBC have sold it and the boys are moving to Mochdre I think
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on January 14, 2016, 05:23:41 pm
Thanks Wrex lets hope you are right about it being sold to the Housing Association as there are so many local young & elderly people in the area on limited means, who desperately need a decent home but can't afford the going rate.
A few months ago the Chief Executive of Catrefi Conwy addressed a Council meeting offering to build in partnership with Conwy County Council over 300 homes which they have funding for and asked the Council to release Council owned land to build on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 15, 2016, 03:10:56 pm
I drove to the West Shore this afternoon but didn't get out of the car for long as it was windy and then the icy rain came down.
At least one person there seemed to be enjoying the conditions
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on January 15, 2016, 03:56:17 pm
........345 - what an excellent photograph! Brilliant. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on January 15, 2016, 07:07:58 pm
I agree, brilliant photo.
It makes me shiver just looking at those pics.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 15, 2016, 10:01:19 pm
What was the headline in the NWWN about the Boulavard
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 19, 2016, 01:01:20 pm
I know things seem quiet in town but surely somebody must have Oscars links,he kept us informed with everything,its as if nobody gives a damn anymore,Tudno castle,Boots on Broadway,Boulavard,Tudno castle,Wildroom restaurant,units below Clarence even Oscars shop let yet nobody knows anything,end of Wrex rant.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 19, 2016, 01:57:54 pm
Are Crest planning on moving out of Bootes on Broadway, wrex?

BTW, there are seven empty units currently in the Victoria Centre with Cmd due to move out on the 31 January, which will make eight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on January 19, 2016, 02:42:01 pm
Are Cmd moving out of town completely or just to another store locally?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 19, 2016, 03:56:24 pm
The CLOSING DOWN notices have today been removed and Cmd are now staying open.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on January 19, 2016, 04:33:21 pm
Are Crest planning on moving out of Bootes on Broadway, wrex?
       
I was told a few weeks ago by a member of staff that they are relocating from the Broadway to their main site in the Junction Bri.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 19, 2016, 05:11:22 pm
Thanks, Gwynant.

There seems to be a lot of competition these days with charity shops in Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 20, 2016, 11:36:00 am
I've noticed a few times in recent weeks a council road sweeper pushing a hand cart around Llandudno - is it me or is this a recent reintroduction? It's good to see, regardless.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on January 21, 2016, 08:58:12 am
 Sunrise from four different locations  in Llandudno earlier this morning. It wasn't as cold out on my bike as I thought it would be after hearing the forecast last night!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 21, 2016, 09:40:26 am
Beautiful.  $thanx$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on January 21, 2016, 10:25:29 am
Fabulous pics Gwynant.
We were glad to be back to a super Welsh sunrise this morning too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on January 22, 2016, 10:39:14 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35371670 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35371670)


Well that's one less to worry about invading your garden!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 22, 2016, 08:31:50 pm
Live football tomorrow nite from Llandudno,TNS V Denbigh Town,S4C 5PM AND then next Saturday Llandudno v Airbus live S4C 5 pm,happy daysalthought I will be there
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 24, 2016, 09:07:09 am
Just a reminder to all the football lovers of Llandudno,Llandudno are live on S4C again next Saturday evening 5 15 ko,support your home town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 24, 2016, 09:15:12 am
Sunrise from four different locations  in Llandudno earlier this morning. It wasn't as cold out on my bike as I thought it would be after hearing the forecast last night!

I really like those photos Gwynant     They are very effective but what unearthly hour of the day did you take them at? 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on January 24, 2016, 11:23:50 am
Sunrise from four different locations  in Llandudno earlier this morning. It wasn't as cold out on my bike as I thought it would be after hearing the forecast last night!

I really like those photos Gwynant     They are very effective but what unearthly hour of the day did you take them at? 
      I've always got up early Hugo throughout my working life, (old habits die hard!), and so if it's a nice morning I nearly always have a ride on my bike around the town, (usually up Conway Road to the Queen's Rd roundabout then down to Craig-y-Don, down on the Prom to the cenotaph, up to Pen Morfa tollgate and back down on the West Shore prom past the boating pond to the miniature railway layout at the other end of West Shore then down Trinity Avenue and back home after getting the paper in the Fford Las shop, about 5.25 miles approx), as it's vary good exercise, gets the old (and in my case new!) joints moving, the roads are relatively quiet, and also very often it's the best part of the day. The photos were taken just before sun clears Bodafon/Little Orme (about 0745 like the  attached ones taken this morning showing a very red sunrise) and I always take my little pocket digital "point-and-press" camera with me as you never know what's about at that time of day!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: ed jones on January 24, 2016, 11:40:37 am
Makes me want to get back up there (you never know) $walesflag$  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2016, 01:49:30 pm
Sunrise from four different locations  in Llandudno earlier this morning. It wasn't as cold out on my bike as I thought it would be after hearing the forecast last night!

I really like those photos Gwynant     They are very effective but what unearthly hour of the day did you take them at? 
      I've always got up early Hugo throughout my working life, (old habits die hard!), and so if it's a nice morning I nearly always have a ride on my bike around the town,

Rather you than me Gwynant,  I worked for about 40 years getting up about 6.00am and returning home about 6.00pm and in the Winter months I left home for work when it was dark and returned home in the dark.
So for me now there is no alarm clock or even a watch, it's like being on holiday all the time in my golden years.
Jack is another early riser like yourself and when I'm just starting walks up the Carneddau I find out that Jack has already been up to the summits and back down again!
The Summer is different though and it's nice to get up early then and enjoy the day.   I'm pleased to know that you're doing so well after that hip operation, it's really great what they can do nowadays.  Don't forget to post some of your walks on here to as Tellytubby and myself liked the ones you have posted already
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on January 25, 2016, 04:09:15 pm
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The Summer is different though and it's nice to get up early then and enjoy the day.   I'm pleased to know that you're doing so well after that hip operation, it's really great what they can do nowadays.  Don't forget to post some of your walks on here to as Tellytubby and myself liked the ones you have posted already
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       The weather has been so poor recently Hugo that we haven't been very far off the beaten track lately , and we certainly haven't done anything worthy of photographic evidence !  Owing to elderly in-law commitments I have been quite restricted for the last couple of years for full days out but this has now been resolved so I hope to do a bit more this year as the days lengthen and the weather improves.
       Incidentally, I had absolutely no idea of the existence of the shed on top of "The Elms" featured in the latest Quiz question, although I must have walked past it hundreds of times. I had been searching on Google Maps for sheds in back gardens all over the Orme from the Ski Slope to Llys Helig Drive! 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2016, 06:28:35 pm
I had thought that the shed question would be too easy and was expecting someone to answer it in the morning.  I cropped both sides so you couldn't see the background and was a little economical with the truth when I said the photo was taken on the Great Orme.
It was taken from Hill Terrace on the lower slopes of the Orme on Saturday when we had a walk on the Marine Drive
You can get your own back next time.    ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on January 26, 2016, 07:28:03 am
 :P Don;t forget you get the chance to be live on tv this Saturday teatime,oh and the chance too support your hometown,Llandudno fc v Airbus 5.15 ko.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2016, 11:45:42 am
The Gales this morning have blown out the window of Caffe Nero. Sure is windy! Photo courtesy Daily Post Live Blog.

Damage has also been reported to the glass canopy of the Carlton pub.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 26, 2016, 02:21:52 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/windows-smashed-llandudno-storm-jonas-10790138 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/windows-smashed-llandudno-storm-jonas-10790138)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 26, 2016, 02:34:08 pm
The Gales this morning have blown out the window of Caffe Nero. Sure is windy! Photo courtesy Daily Post Live Blog.



Sorry but I had to put this !

It went for a Burton ! :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 26, 2016, 03:12:46 pm
The waves were quite rough on the promenade as I drove past earlier today but nothing compared to the West Shore which took the brunt of the gale.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on January 27, 2016, 11:49:27 am
What is the big ship doing ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 27, 2016, 12:47:21 pm
What is the big ship doing ?
It is the Topaz Installer, a ship owned by ABB used for laying undersea cables.

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/details/ships/shipid:468828/mmsi:377265000/In my humble opinion:9199854/vessel:TOPAZ_INSTALLER (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/details/ships/shipid:468828/mmsi:377265000/In my humble opinion:9199854/vessel:TOPAZ_INSTALLER)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on January 28, 2016, 10:15:17 am
Thought it looked big for trips from the pier !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 29, 2016, 08:50:28 am
Once again, I have had time to marvel at the utter stupidity of the people from CCBC who thought it would be a good idea to use the Trollibocs as the recycling system for householders in exposed coastal locations like Llandudno. The high winds last night have resulted in recycling boxes scattered far and wide across town, along with their contents - newspapers, tins, bits of cardboard, bottles, all festooned over roads, lawns, gardens, bushes.

One has to laugh when recalling the comments of the Councillor who introduced it:

Cllr Mike Priestley, Portfolio Holder for Highways, Environment and Sustainability, said: "Recycling is really important to the people of Conwy.  For years, our residents have asked us to make it easier and we have listened.  Trials of the Trolibocs over the last year have been a great success and every day, people make contact wanting to know when they will get a Trolibocs.  I'm delighted to say that by the spring, householders will have a Trolibocs and the days of different boxes and bags blowing away will be a thing of the past."
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=11469&doc=35310&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=11469&doc=35310&Language=1)

It's interesting to note that other areas have exactly the same problem; the Trolibocs is simply not fit for purpose:
http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/13902555.Petition_launched_and_protest_planned_against_controversial_new_recycling_system/ (http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/13902555.Petition_launched_and_protest_planned_against_controversial_new_recycling_system/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 29, 2016, 10:58:06 am
Unfortunately a lot of the problem is where to put these boxes ready to be collected. Once emptied they can be tucked away, hopefully, out of the wind.
Also a lot of people put things in that shouldn't be there, the bin men leave the lot, the owners either aren't around, or don't bother to collect them from the roadside. Thus we have this morning's scenario, overturned, smashed boxes and unwashed rubbish in everyone else's property.
If used properly, the idea works, if not, it makes a bigger mess than the original set up. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 29, 2016, 04:46:55 pm
It's a shame to post something out of the Daily Himmler but if you scroll down Adolf Littlejohn's bile rantings of hate in the DFM today you will see Llandudno gets a mention  &shake&

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3422029/We-ll-import-paper-boys-Lithuania-EU-meddlers-target-teenagers-jobs-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-says-example-Brussels-tentacles-interfering-aspect-lives.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3422029/We-ll-import-paper-boys-Lithuania-EU-meddlers-target-teenagers-jobs-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-says-example-Brussels-tentacles-interfering-aspect-lives.html)

Feeding off the success of Strictly, ballroom dancing has enjoyed a strong revival. It's particularly popular among people of a certain age, who not only remember the heyday of the local Palais but find tripping the light fantastic a far more agreeable way to keep fit than pumping iron.
Naturally, this has not gone unnoticed in elf'n'safety circles. Those who dedicate their lives to saving us from ourselves have been quick to identify the inherent risks to life and limb posed by the tango and the peppermint twist.
A couple of years ago, I brought you news that Blackpool Council had ordered 16 wooden dance-floors at centres used by pensioners to be carpeted over. There were fears that they could fall and hurt themselves.
Now we learn that in some areas, ballroom dancing is being banned altogether. For the past eight years, Saturday night hops have been held at the Trinity Centre, in Llandudno, North Wales, regularly attracting up to 40 dancers aged between 60 and 85.
But permission for the dances has just been withdrawn. The management was concerned that the floor was becoming too slippery because some people were using accelerant on the soles of their shoes.
I have visions of ultra-competitive dancers spraying their pumps with WD40 to gain an advantage in the fandango, only to find themselves slip-slidin' away like Bambi on ice and causing motorway-style multiple pile-ups.
Dance organisers Ted and Doris Harding, from Colwyn Bay, say if the floor is dangerous it is only because the centre is using the wrong kind of polish. Accidents do happen, admittedly. My mate Charlie once ended up in A&E after breaking his ankle while foolishly attempting the jitterbug at an over-65s singles night. But that's still no reason to ban it.
The next time elf'n'safety tries to stop you doing the Wall Street Shuffle, just tell them to foxtrot oscar.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3422029/We-ll-import-paper-boys-Lithuania-EU-meddlers-target-teenagers-jobs-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-says-example-Brussels-tentacles-interfering-aspect-lives.html#ixzz3yeWzOEcb (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3422029/We-ll-import-paper-boys-Lithuania-EU-meddlers-target-teenagers-jobs-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-says-example-Brussels-tentacles-interfering-aspect-lives.html#ixzz3yeWzOEcb)
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on January 30, 2016, 02:51:17 pm
Once again, I have had time to marvel at the utter stupidity of the people from CCBC who thought it would be a good idea to use the Trollibocs as the recycling system for householders in exposed coastal locations like Llandudno. The high winds last night have resulted in recycling boxes scattered far and wide across town, along with their contents - newspapers, tins, bits of cardboard, bottles, all festooned over roads, lawns, gardens, bushes.

One has to laugh when recalling the comments of the Councillor who introduced it:

Cllr Mike Priestley, Portfolio Holder for Highways, Environment and Sustainability, said: "Recycling is really important to the people of Conwy.  For years, our residents have asked us to make it easier and we have listened.  Trials of the Trolibocs over the last year have been a great success and every day, people make contact wanting to know when they will get a Trolibocs.  I'm delighted to say that by the spring, householders will have a Trolibocs and the days of different boxes and bags blowing away will be a thing of the past."
http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=11469&doc=35310&Language=1 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=11469&doc=35310&Language=1)

It's interesting to note that other areas have exactly the same problem; the Trolibocs is simply not fit for purpose:
http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/13902555.Petition_launched_and_protest_planned_against_controversial_new_recycling_system/ (http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/13902555.Petition_launched_and_protest_planned_against_controversial_new_recycling_system/)

Sorry DaveR, I have to disagree with you. The fact is that no idea is perfect; all it takes is a bit of common sense. Re-cycling waste is being collected and receptacles have been provided - all it takes is a bit of common sense and responsibility. Tie them down, but a brick on it, put it out in the morning, wait until next week - ask a neighbour, take it to the re-cycling centre yourself, what ever it takes.

I am tired of commentators finding someone else to blame when the real reason for many issues that blight us in society is the lack od social responsibility and common sense from a few lazy unthinking individuals. 

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 30, 2016, 03:06:44 pm
Hi Bosun, I hear what you are saying, but take a look up around the roads on the Gt Orme, and you will conclude that despite many 'sensible' measures attempted... the roads are simply strewn with filthy plastic bottles, magazines, tins, and glass.  (broken or otherwise)

When the gales come, and that seems to be more and more frequently these days, you simply have to put the bins out... as the operatives won't go onto your property to find them.
It would have to be one hell of a heavy brick on top to prevent them blowing over... and I'm sure that putting one on would contravene some kind of H&S legislation.   They don't need much encouragement to leave the bin unemptied!

The Orme this week has never been more full of litter, it's terrible, a high percentage of what people tried to recycle last week is strewn around grass verges, in trees and on the roadside.
I don't profess to know the 'perfect' answer, but it's not the Trollibocs!





Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2016, 03:13:28 pm
The winds have been bad recently and if they are like that the day before bin day then I don't put the bins out.  I usually get up before the bin men call and put the bins out when I get up.
If I don't get up in time and the various bins are full it doesn't matter anyway  because CCBC has agreed for householders to use the old style bags as well and they will collect them the following week
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on January 30, 2016, 05:02:03 pm
Fester, I sympathise entirely with your frustration at the litter on the Gt Orme, it is an absolute disgrace, BUT, there is NO excuse - don't blame the containers supplied, blame the idiots who do not regard it as their responsibility for the litter that they create. There is no excuse whatsoever for litter and I get extremely frustrated when the householder believes that what ever the circumstances, as long as they have placed it outside their property, their responsibility ends. No it does not. It's their responsibility to ensure that is fully disposed of in the correct manner, and that means safely and correctly ensuring collection, as Hugo does. (I won't even bother outlining the environmental legislation responsibility placed on businesses to ensure the correct disposal of waste.)

I'd have no qualms about birching litter louts and flogging fly tippers.

Litter is the scourge of society, it pollutes the seas, ruins the environment and blights the landscape. One of the best things done by the Welsh Assembly was the plastic bag 'tax', that legislation has only partially been brought in by England, in a ludicrous half-hearted manner.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on January 30, 2016, 06:32:18 pm
I think what Fester is referring to is that there are a number of terraces on the Orme that in the past the bins were collected from each property & returned by the bin men but now the owners are expected to line these boxes up at the end of the terrace to save them the walk. As the property owners are then out at work for the day the boxes sit there until tea time when people return from work. If they are not emptied until lunch time they run the risk of being blown over and separating & then the contents eventually pour out into the street on a particularly windy day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 30, 2016, 07:22:00 pm
I think what Fester is referring to is that there are a number of terraces on the Orme that in the past the bins were collected from each property & returned by the bin men but now the owners are expected to line these boxes up at the end of the terrace to save them the walk. As the property owners are then out at work for the day the boxes sit there until tea time when people return from work. If they are not emptied until lunch time they run the risk of being blown over and separating & then the contents eventually pour out into the street on a particularly windy day.

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on January 31, 2016, 09:08:29 am
Cllr Mike Priestley now there no surprise.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on January 31, 2016, 09:16:44 am
Fester, I sympathise entirely with your frustration at the litter on the Gt Orme, it is an absolute disgrace, BUT, there is NO excuse - don't blame the containers supplied, blame the idiots who do not regard it as their responsibility for the litter that they create. There is no excuse whatsoever for litter and I get extremely frustrated when the householder believes that what ever the circumstances, as long as they have placed it outside their property, their responsibility ends. No it does not. It's their responsibility to ensure that is fully disposed of in the correct manner, and that means safely and correctly ensuring collection, as Hugo does. (I won't even bother outlining the environmental legislation responsibility placed on businesses to ensure the correct disposal of waste.)

I'd have no qualms about birching litter louts and flogging fly tippers.

Litter is the scourge of society, it pollutes the seas, ruins the environment and blights the landscape. One of the best things done by the Welsh Assembly was the plastic bag 'tax', that legislation has only partially been brought in by England, in a ludicrous half-hearted manner.

What your answer ???

I have seen estates in Germany with fenced and locked compounds. Householders have keys and are expected to take sorted rubbish there. Don't know if it would work in the UK as Brits don't obey the rules like the Germans. But you don't see bin and  rubbish all over the places so it works there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on January 31, 2016, 10:36:03 am
Fester, I sympathise entirely with your frustration at the litter on the Gt Orme, it is an absolute disgrace, BUT, there is NO excuse - don't blame the containers supplied, blame the idiots who do not regard it as their responsibility for the litter that they create. There is no excuse whatsoever for litter and I get extremely frustrated when the householder believes that what ever the circumstances, as long as they have placed it outside their property, their responsibility ends. No it does not. It's their responsibility to ensure that is fully disposed of in the correct manner, and that means safely and correctly ensuring collection, as Hugo does. (I won't even bother outlining the environmental legislation responsibility placed on businesses to ensure the correct disposal of waste.)

I'd have no qualms about birching litter louts and flogging fly tippers.

Litter is the scourge of society, it pollutes the seas, ruins the environment and blights the landscape. One of the best things done by the Welsh Assembly was the plastic bag 'tax', that legislation has only partially been brought in by England, in a ludicrous half-hearted manner.

What your answer ???

I have seen estates in Germany with fenced and locked compounds. Householders have keys and are expected to take sorted rubbish there. Don't know if it would work in the UK as Brits don't obey the rules like the Germans. But you don't see bin and  rubbish all over the places so it works there.

You seem to have suggested an answer; work with the local councillor and council to find a more suitable methodology, but the first thing is as I have said previously and you have touched on it above, demand, force, educate or birch people into taking responsibility for their own social behaviour.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 01, 2016, 10:23:11 pm
I hope that there is no bin day tomorrow in Llandudno because it's very rough out there tonight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 02, 2016, 09:43:46 am
I don't recall there being the same level of problem before the Trolibocs was introduced? That clearly indicates a problem with the design of the recycling system. In Denbighshire, all the recycling goes together into one large wheely bin, a much simpler and more effective system.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 02, 2016, 09:58:07 am
The one large wheely bin idea sounds great! Exactly what we should have here!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 02, 2016, 10:26:47 pm
Re recycling collections. I'm ready to be shot down on my offer of a partial solution to  this one but when the wind is blowing, and man does it blow up here, I put a "bungee chord" a cross the top of the top 2 of the 3 recycling boxes tying the paper box closed and attached onto the tins and plastics one. Not a perfect solution but for about 30p it does cut down the risk of the paper going everywhere. If it's really blowing at night I don't put it out overnight but put it out first thing in the morning. If it's really blowing in the morning I don't put the recycling out.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 02, 2016, 10:36:27 pm
Sounds like a good idea to me TheMedz      $good$

The top box does have a lock on it which is good but the two below it don't so something like you've described should help, providing of course that the binmen don't dispose of the "bungee cord"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2016, 12:48:01 am
Sounds like a good idea to me TheMedz      $good$

The top box does have a lock on it which is good but the two below it don't so something like you've described should help, providing of course that the binmen don't dispose of the "bungee cord"

My top box doesn't have a lock on it.. At least I don't think it does?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on February 03, 2016, 04:02:05 am
I think the Orme recycling was used as a trial run and the boxes subsequently used in other parts of the town were changed to include a lock on the top box after the trial run was completed
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 03, 2016, 08:37:20 am
Sounds like a good idea to me TheMedz      $good$

The top box does have a lock on it which is good but the two below it don't so something like you've described should help, providing of course that the binmen don't dispose of the "bungee cord"

My top box doesn't have a lock on it.. At least I don't think it does?

The top box has a lid and just a simple round yellow plastic disc that you turn to lock the top box.  They can't use that on the other two boxes as it's a stacking system
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on February 03, 2016, 11:51:53 am
Re recycling collections. I'm ready to be shot down on my offer of a partial solution to  this one but when the wind is blowing, and man does it blow up here, I put a "bungee chord" a cross the top of the top 2 of the 3 recycling boxes tying the paper box closed and attached onto the tins and plastics one. Not a perfect solution but for about 30p it does cut down the risk of the paper going everywhere. If it's really blowing at night I don't put it out overnight but put it out first thing in the morning. If it's really blowing in the morning I don't put the recycling out.
                I do exactly the same as TheMedz but on a moderately windy day as well as running the hooked elastic through the bin handles I also hook it onto the garden gate to stop the whole lot blowing over which happened in the gales before Xmas. I informed the lads on the collection wagon and they were quite happy to unhook it and replace it. We live at the bottom end of a cul-de-sac opposite the end of a long street running due west-to-east and as you can imagine we had loads of empty trolibocs bins from the adjacent area and the rubbish which was in them when they blew away all over the area last Friday morning. The neighbours collected all the boxes and put them all together as most of them were damaged and split and on Monday morning a council litter collection wagon with a cage was passing, stopped and took them all away.
                Like TheMedz I don't put the bins out until the morning as the council requested in the leaflet that was delivered with the "Bin-day Rota" recently, and if it is really wild I'll leave it till the following week. The bin-wagons are normally round here by about 0900 on the collection day. I realise that they can still blow away after they have been emptied if you are unable to retrieve them when they have been emptiedbut at least there is no rubbish blowing around everywhere
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 03, 2016, 04:17:15 pm
So, I live on the Orme, and nowhere needs a locking box more than Orme residents, but Orme residents didn't get them?

Brilliant!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2016, 08:46:20 am
So, I live on the Orme, and nowhere needs a locking box more than Orme residents, but Orme residents didn't get them?

Brilliant!
The locking box doesn't make much difference. On a windy day,  the entire Trolibocs just blows over and all the boxes then become detached, quickly vanishing down the street.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on February 04, 2016, 09:07:55 am
So, I live on the Orme, and nowhere needs a locking box more than Orme residents, but Orme residents didn't get them?

Brilliant!
The locking box doesn't make much difference. On a windy day,  the entire Trolibocs just blows over and all the boxes then become detached, quickly vanishing down the street.  &shake&

Then perhaps, you should take Gwynant's advice, and do as other people do to avoid the issue occurring.

It's common sense, not rocket science, but makes a huge difference to the environment. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2016, 09:28:20 am
So, I live on the Orme, and nowhere needs a locking box more than Orme residents, but Orme residents didn't get them?

Brilliant!
The locking box doesn't make much difference. On a windy day,  the entire Trolibocs just blows over and all the boxes then become detached, quickly vanishing down the street.  &shake&

Then perhaps, you should take Gwynant's advice, and do as other people do to avoid the issue occurring.

It's common sense, not rocket science, but makes a huge difference to the environment.
If it were so obvious, I imagine CCBC would have probably included it as part of the basic design of the Trolibocs?

Sadly, I have nowhere (i.e. gateposts) to attach the Trolibocs to, other wise I would have done just that long ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on February 04, 2016, 10:07:39 am
When will people stop blaming anything and everything else; CCBC, the Troliblocs, too windy, too hot, Putin, the earths orbit........................

We create waste, and we have a moral and social duty to ensure that it is disposed of correctly and to blame the absence of a gatepost for an excuse for creating litter does, with all due respect, seem absurd to me.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 04, 2016, 10:54:13 am
When will people stop blaming anything and everything else; CCBC, the Troliblocs, too windy, too hot, Putin, the earths orbit........................

We create waste, and we have a moral and social duty to ensure that it is disposed of correctly and to blame the absence of a gatepost for an excuse for creating litter does, with all due respect, seem absurd to me.

Come on, we also create taxes and we have good reason to expect them to be used sensibly to help us.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on February 04, 2016, 10:55:32 am
Through council tax we pay the council to dispose of the waste, it is up to the highly qualified and probably highly paid experts to provide us with a recycling system that is fit for purpose, the current system clearly is not suitable for this area. Lots of working families are too busy to devote the time to it that you do Bosun. I am retired so have the luxury of being able to put it out in the morning when it is windy and we have a drive so can shelter it from the wind. Most people just want a simple reliable system where it is taken away without blowing all over the place!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on February 04, 2016, 11:53:30 am
To a greater extent, I agree with you both, Born2Run and Merddin Emrys, but there is only so much CCBC can do, and in some quarters there does seem to be a lack of self responsibility that causes the situation that Fester so eloquently describes and we have all seen on the Gt Orme. Gwynant and TheMedz have made sensible arrangements and suggestions, and I wonder if any of those who find the current system (which is certainly not ideal) causing problems have consulted with their local Councillor/CCBC on possible alternatives? And if so, what was the response?

In the current financial climate, Councils are looking at all aspects of services to find ways to cut costs, and I know that one local council was considering removing local re-cycling pods found in car parks and other available public areas on the grounds of cost, expecting people to take their recycling to the main recycling centres. When I pointed out that this was contrary to Government policy on re-cycling, I was met with complete and utter indifference from the 'Environmental Waste Manager' at the council headquarters, whose attitude was 'tough, we've got to save money'.

With the financial pressures on councils, and the problem of waste, we have GOT to take more individual responsibility for recycling and the correct disposal of waste. Anyone who has been to Asia, India and seen the waste and debris littering the sides of roads and open areas, it's horrific. I was shocked by the waste in Bali, unbelievable. Even Base Camp for Everest is one giant rubbish strewn area.

We are cosseted in comparison with some countries, however, the measures, which some might consider Draconian, in place in some European countries in respect to household waste should be put in place here sooner rather than later by Central Government legislation to force councils to comply.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 04, 2016, 11:56:49 am
When will people stop blaming anything and everything else; CCBC, the Troliblocs, too windy, too hot, Putin, the earths orbit........................

We create waste, and we have a moral and social duty to ensure that it is disposed of correctly and to blame the absence of a gatepost for an excuse for creating litter does, with all due respect, seem absurd to me.
I don't create litter. We don't put the recycling out if the weather forecast says it is going to be windy. Of course, this does mean I am paying for a service which I cannot use....  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 04, 2016, 12:11:16 pm
Through council tax we pay the council to dispose of the waste, it is up to the highly qualified and probably highly paid experts to provide us with a recycling system that is fit for purpose, the current system clearly is not suitable for this area. Lots of working families are too busy to devote the time to it that you do Bosun. I am retired so have the luxury of being able to put it out in the morning when it is windy and we have a drive so can shelter it from the wind. Most people just want a simple reliable system where it is taken away without blowing all over the place!

Very good point ME.
The people who collect our rubbish bins come at about 7am - so I need to make sure I put those bins out the night before as I'm not awake! The people who collect our recycling bins come at about half 1 in the afternoon when I'm in work, so I have to put those out about 8am before I leave in the morning,I still have to do this twice but unfortunately between 8am and 1.30 am there is a lot of wind and we don't have a drive or shelter and the boxes are often scattered by the time I get home from work. There isn't a lot I can do about this. Predicting the weather on the possibility to leave them in is another dead end as it can be nice and mild in the morning and hurricane winds a few hours later! Why can't they both come at the same time?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on February 04, 2016, 12:47:54 pm
Bosun this was the brain child of Mike priestly and him and his mates Don't listen to anyone ( blinkered)  they did a trial run and it wasn't a success but hey ho it's not their money to waste ,let's not forget he travelled the world 😅 To see how other places do it , good idea in l,pool they have a purple bin for recycle works very well the bins never go missing , it's a good idea off gwynant ,but as someone else does puts a brick on top think of the claim going against you if dropped on a worker, stupid h/s .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 04, 2016, 03:21:15 pm
Or what if you're bin clatters into someone's car? They are too light for purpose and are a danger
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on February 04, 2016, 06:48:45 pm
We all agree that the situation is far from perfect and some postings have made practical, sensible and workable suggestions for the problems we all face, but no-one that is complaining has actually made any suggestions for improvement or stated that they have contacted their Councillor or CCBC to try and improve things.

In parts of Greater Manchester/Lancs, households have four wheelie bins, they are a nightmare to store and they too blow over in strong winds, so that's not the best solution. 

It appears that the only adequate solution for some would be a personalised recycling collection service at a time and day of their choice, rather oblivious to the fact that this would be at the expense of every other council service, rather than take some personal responsibility themselves. Families, households and the occupants of multi-occupied buildings in the majority of the UK and Europe find the time and effort to keep their communities free from re-cycling waste and litter, and so should we.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on February 04, 2016, 08:37:49 pm
'on-one' should actually read 'no one'....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 04, 2016, 10:17:12 pm
Or what if you're bin clatters into someone's car? They are too light for purpose and are a danger

I'll tell you exactly what happens when that occurs!

Last year during an almighty gale, most of our neighbour's wheelie bins flew down the hill, and came to rest against my car.
There was a nice dent to the passenger door, so the following happened.
1, I phoned up CCBC,
2, They gave me a number for Zurich Insurance
3, I fill in all the forms, send the pics etc.
4, Zurich Insurance do nothing
5, I chase them up after a few months.
6, Zurich Insurance tell me to sod off.
7, I complain to CCBC,
8. They agree to collect all wheelie bins from the neighbours property instead.

Within a month, it's all back to square one, operatives forget to collect bins.... they end up outside my house, and the whole charade begins again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 05, 2016, 12:36:24 pm
It's preventable though. the bins just need to be adapted to be anchored on and off in some way, I'm no engineer but If Asda trolleys can come to a halt as soon as they know they have left the car park then the technology exists to stop bins flying around everywhere!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 05, 2016, 12:37:39 pm
Anyway on to happier news

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/158258/llandudno-air-show-cancelled.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/158258/llandudno-air-show-cancelled.aspx)

LLANDUDNO Air Show has been cancelled after organisers said new safety regulations make it impossible to hold the event this year.

This year's show was scheduled to be staged over the May bank holiday weekend but new regulations issued in January governing such events, from the Civil Aviation Authority following a fatal accident at the Shoreham Air Show in Sussex last year, have significantly influenced the decision to cancel it.

Edward Hiller, managing director of land owners Mostyn Estates Ltd who organise the event in aid of armed forces charities, and to provide an early season attraction for local people and visitors to the resort, said the decision to cancel this year’s show hadn’t been taken lightly but the timescale to allow the implementation of all the new rules was too short.

He said: “A number of factors have led us to this decision. The key one being the recently published CAA regulations following the accident at Shoreham last summer. We will need to review how these new requirements would impact on ours and other displays over the course of the year, though we are hopeful we will be able to resume a show at Llandudno in 2017.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Daihardwelshman on February 05, 2016, 12:54:50 pm
Shame that...brought a lot of people into Llandudno and kick started the season.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 05, 2016, 01:53:36 pm
Quote
I'm no engineer but If Asda trolleys can come to a halt as soon as they know they have left the car park then the technology exists to stop bins flying around everywhere!

Very different problems. An Asda trolley has little wind resistance, for a start, and is inherently better in terms of a lower centre of Gravity. Bins are not only higher, but solid, making them exceptionally susceptible to gusts, particularly when empty, which is when the Asda trolley's lack of wind resistance comes into its own.

There are answers, of course, but most involve either increasing the unladen weight, so the more elderly are going to find them an issue to move, or installing snap-link locking systems, and these depend on there always being somewhere they can be snapped-linked to. Alternatively, a solution being deployed in some areas is to create small, wind-proof bin refuges on each road, and then insisting the resident all move their bins to the refuge the night before.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on February 05, 2016, 03:41:23 pm
Ian that is a very good idea to create small bin refuges, if there is the space that is. If anyone feels they would like to make a complaint regarding their bins etc., Councillor Dave Cowans is your man, he now deals with refuse collecting and is a really nice guy. Mike Priestly is now Cabinet Member for Communication (Customer Services, Health & Safety, Human Resources)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on February 05, 2016, 04:27:08 pm
It's preventable though. the bins just need to be adapted to be anchored on and off in some way, I'm no engineer but If Asda trolleys can come to a halt as soon as they know they have left the car park then the technology exists to stop bins flying around everywhere!
         For those of us who have something that the trolibox can be secured to I attach a couple of photos to show what can be done simply and easily to prevent it moving and falling over.I used a couple of cable ties to tie a bungee elastic to the wheeled frame and drilled two holes to hook it on to when it's not required, and prevent it getting lost. The bins can be lifted on and off easily and the weight of the slotted top box should stop them blowing off the frame.I realise that this might be a problem if the collection wagon cannot get near the trolibox but they can back right up to our gate in our cul-de-sac. I spoke to the lads on the wagon again today and they said they were OK with the arrangement.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on February 05, 2016, 04:44:28 pm
Gwynant, that's a brilliant post. I have a similar system and have put the same on a couple of OAP neighbours units as well, it works. 

I have also forwarded this post to Dave Cowans so that he is aware of local comments on the current system. Knowing Dave, he'll take it all on board.

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on February 05, 2016, 05:20:19 pm
They should give you an award for innovation Gwynant. I shall be telling all my neighbours about it as soon as, we are sick and tired of Friday morning chaos in our area on blustery days.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 06, 2016, 03:54:44 pm
Stars talk to Len Goodman about their childhood holidays in North Wales

In episode 17 on Tuesday, February 23, model and presenter Melanie Sykes back to Llandudno to look back at the holiday of her lifetime back in 1980.


http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiejrLrvuPKAhVB1BoKHf4_C4cQqQIIJDAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailypost.co.uk%2Fnews%2Ftv%2Fstars-talk-len-goodman-childhood-10820033&usg=AFQjCNFXwyRhG6ddxblXFFeVm1RZdEYRPQ (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiejrLrvuPKAhVB1BoKHf4_C4cQqQIIJDAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailypost.co.uk%2Fnews%2Ftv%2Fstars-talk-len-goodman-childhood-10820033&usg=AFQjCNFXwyRhG6ddxblXFFeVm1RZdEYRPQ)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 06, 2016, 06:13:36 pm
I remember us walking past them outside the ice cream parlour in Upper Mostyn Street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on February 08, 2016, 09:46:49 am
This move would be wrong on so many levels that I'm surprised that it's even being considered.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35520036 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35520036)

I for one am strongly opposed and I would take some convincing to change my mind.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2016, 09:55:20 am
This move would be wrong on so many levels that I'm surprised that it's even being considered.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35520036 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35520036)

I for one am strongly opposed and I would take some convincing to change my mind.
I agree, it's completely ridiculous.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on February 09, 2016, 03:46:36 pm
It's all about saving money with the budget cuts. I watched the live Webcast of this meeting and if they go for 4 weekly there will be a saving of £558,000 per year. All the other collections will stay the same and there will be one added for nappies/personal hygiene pads. Councillor Chris Cater wanted to know about dog poo and cat litter which was appropriate given that he is also a Vet. A few interesting facts came up, one about the trolley blocs and how they don't fare well in bad weather. An Officer stated you could revert back to using the old containers in windy weather. Wish I had known that before I gave them back. The Council have to hit a target of 64% saving on recycling and we are at 59% at the moment, or face a large fine. Next target will be 70%. They will be doing spot checks on people's bins to see if they are doing as they should, but didn't mention what would happen if they didn't. The fact is when peoples bins are full they tend to start putting their rubbish into others, so that could be a problem in itself.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 09, 2016, 04:00:10 pm
If they did save £558k on bin collections that would soon be out-weighed by the amount needed to be spent to clear up the massive increase in fly-tipping.
I'm sure there is an easy £558k to be saved by chopping out some of the highly paid middle and senior management at CCBC.

I'm still uncertain how they work out that less collections will mean more recycling as a percentage of the total, unless they are absolutely certain that what can be recycled now is not being done,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on February 09, 2016, 04:23:47 pm
I think the idea is, if you regularly fill up your bin with everything (some people refuse to recycle) you will be forced to recycle, as you won't have anywhere else to put it with 4 weekly collections.
I agree with your chopping staff statement Fester. I have had to attend quite a few Council meeting recently and one in particular there were 3 Planning Officers and only one spoke for less than five minutes in almost 2 hours. If you watch webcasts it's an eye opener as to how many there are of them and they sit there looking bored and don't say a word. The latest total waste of rate payers money is the LDP which cost over 1 million, they are already departing from it and it has only been out less than 2 years.  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 09, 2016, 04:57:10 pm
I think the idea is, if you regularly fill up your bin with everything (some people refuse to recycle) you will be forced to recycle, as you won't have anywhere else to put it with 4 weekly collections.
I agree with your chopping staff statement Fester. I have had to attend quite a few Council meeting recently and one in particular there were 3 Planning Officers and only one spoke for less than five minutes in almost 2 hours. If you watch webcasts it's an eye opener as to how many there are of them and they sit there looking bored and don't say a word. The latest total waste of rate payers money is the LDP which cost over 1 million, they are already departing from it and it has only been out less than 2 years.  :(

If they're selfish enough not to recycle, trust me they will be selfish enough to dump their rubbish wherever they see fit. Which will probably be our back gardens!
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Post by: Hugo on February 09, 2016, 06:16:28 pm
You're spot on BTR,  I know a few people who don't recycle but they burn the paper, cardboard and plastics in their garden instead.

I was in Pigeon's Cove around the Marine Drive recently and someone had dumped a VCR player over the wall and it was in bits on the ledge by the caves.  It's typical of a certain type of person.
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Post by: Nemesis on February 11, 2016, 11:22:01 am
Not a wise move considering the fumes given off by burning plastic !
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Post by: Fester on February 11, 2016, 11:24:47 pm
If CCBC are a bit short in their quest to recycle, then maybe they should send a crew up to clean up the Great Orme, where I estimate they will amass about half a million tons of plastic, glass, tins and cardboard... much of which has been floating around for a few weeks now.
There.... EU target achieved, Fine avoided.... Council Tax rise avoided?   (yeah right)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on February 20, 2016, 07:48:56 am
Some brilliant shots of the town beach covered in sand on facebook,i still don;t understand why(, leaving the quarry out of the equation)THE REST OF THE BEACH IS NOT DRAGGED AND CLEARED OF PEBBLE,BOULDER ETC,can;t understand why nobody seems bothered in just clearing what we have left,not one person even mentions it,not a hotelier,politian(TOWN COUNCIL),newspapers,we go onand on and on about the quarry but when is somebody going to get the beach cleared.
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Post by: Blongb on February 20, 2016, 07:58:52 pm
Some brilliant shots of the town beach covered in sand on facebook,i still don;t understand why nobody seems bothered in just clearing what we have left,not one person even mentions it,not a hotelier,politian(TOWN COUNCIL),newspapers,we go onand on and on about the quarry but when is somebody going to get the beach cleared.

It's not in the Hoteliers interest to bring negatives to their customers attention Wrex. If it's not good news keep quiet.
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Post by: DaveR on February 23, 2016, 11:47:59 am
There's a Council Meeting today to decide if the Wheelie Bins will be collected once a month, instead of the present Fortnightly:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-councils-four-week-bin-10935924 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-councils-four-week-bin-10935924)
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Post by: Hugo on February 23, 2016, 07:06:07 pm
I enjoyed watching "Holiday of my lifetime"   with Len Goodman on BBC 1 this afternoon.    It featured Melanie Sykes revisiting Llandudno and had many nice shots of the town.
It will be a good advert for the town        $good$

She stayed at the Heath House Hotel in Deganwy in Marine Crescent but the hotel has now been demolished.  Bellringer posted a reply to an enquiry about the hotel some time ago on the forum
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Post by: Nemesis on February 23, 2016, 08:03:55 pm
We also watched the programme, as you say,  ..a good advert for Llandudno.
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Post by: DaveR on February 24, 2016, 09:09:55 am
There's a Council Meeting today to decide if the Wheelie Bins will be collected once a month, instead of the present Fortnightly:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-councils-four-week-bin-10935924 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-councils-four-week-bin-10935924)
The Council have agreed to change the collection of Wheelie Bins to once every three weeks. I trust that there will be a corresponding decrease in my Council Tax? &shake&

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/area-conwy-trial-four-weekly-10939466 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/area-conwy-trial-four-weekly-10939466)
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Post by: bigbadhenry on February 24, 2016, 09:56:06 am
"The Council have agreed to change the collection of Wheelie Bins to once every three weeks. I trust that there will be a corresponding decrease in my Council Tax?"

That made me larf
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Post by: born2run on March 08, 2016, 12:24:02 pm
Has 'featured' on this forum before

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-austin-michael-bellew-11004396 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-man-austin-michael-bellew-11004396)

very sad.

A missing North Wales man whose body was found six miles off the Wirral coast has been named.

Austin Michael Bellew was discovered in the sea on February 24 by a passing boat crew.

This afternoon, an inquest was opened into the death of the 41-year-old of Caroline Road, Llandudno, who was identified by his fingerprints and tattoos.

North Wales central coroner John Gittins said unemployed Mr Bellew was found in the sea at the mouth of the Dee Estuary off Talacre.

A crew on board a boat which takes workers to and from a wind farm made the grim discovery and alerted the coastguard at about 10.30pm.

A lifeboat was deployed from Hoylake and the badly decomposed body was taken ashore.

A post mortem was carried out at the Royal Liverpool University Hospital, with the cause of death unascertained pending toxicology.

The findings were deferred to inquest to a date yet to be fixed.
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Post by: Mr Tunnock on March 08, 2016, 05:33:14 pm
I've known Austin and his brother Martin for many years, as have many others, not least the police and courts!
It is a very sad state of affairs that has effected many, caused by drugs and addiction to them.
Austin when he was clean was an alright chap to talk to, but I'm sorry to say that was not very often of late.
He and is brother have family I am sure and it must have been hell for them.
He is at least at peace now.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 09, 2016, 10:21:32 am
Traffic lights by Asda are out of action.
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Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2016, 01:39:11 pm
Very rough seas at North Shore today!
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Post by: Fester on March 09, 2016, 02:48:06 pm
Indeed Dave, vicious northerly wind, this was the sea crashing over the entrance to the Pier at Happy Valley Rd,  and you can see it surging up through the boards.
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Post by: Ian on March 09, 2016, 03:29:52 pm
Cont'd

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Post by: Ian on March 09, 2016, 03:33:29 pm
F: I changed the image orientation so people could see them without lying down :-)
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Post by: norman08 on March 09, 2016, 04:27:37 pm
In the 60 s/70s we used to pick them boards up inside the gates before the storms .
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Post by: Fester on March 09, 2016, 04:50:25 pm
F: I changed the image orientation so people could see them without lying down :-)
Oh?  They looked fine when I looked back at my completed post?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 11, 2016, 12:54:49 pm
There is a large ship almost touching the shore by the Paddling Pool. It is the THV Mair, apparently.
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Post by: Blongb on March 12, 2016, 12:23:17 pm

Trinity House Vessel Mair, offten seen around here. Works on keeping the bouys along the North Wales coast in the right position and changing them as required.  $walesflag$
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Post by: Bellringer on March 12, 2016, 12:50:49 pm
Interesting.
Perhaps some of the crew wanted to watch the snooker at Venue Cymru!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 14, 2016, 12:27:04 pm

Trinity House Vessel Mair, offten seen around here. Works on keeping the bouys along the North Wales coast in the right position and changing them as required.  $walesflag$
I was wondering if it was doing something for the new Lifeboat station, being as it was so close to shore next to the site of the station?
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Post by: Blongb on March 14, 2016, 07:07:41 pm
Could well be Dave or more likely they were just being nosey aaa.gif
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Post by: Hugo on March 14, 2016, 07:47:18 pm
When the new Lifeboat Station is completed I hope that lessons will be learnt from the fiasco of the sailing club slipway.     The pebbles are always  moving in that area as you can see when you look in the Paddling Pool after a Winter storm.
The last thing they want after moving to the new site is any delay in clearing pebbles from the slipway prior to an emergency launch
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 14, 2016, 08:14:41 pm
When the new Lifeboat Station is completed I hope that lessons will be learnt from the fiasco of the sailing club slipway.     The pebbles are always  moving in that area as you can see when you look in the Paddling Pool after a Winter storm.
The last thing they want after moving to the new site is any delay in clearing pebbles from the slipway prior to an emergency launch

The new Lifeboat trolley is designed to launch the boat directly into the sea without the need to use a slipway, so as long as they can get the door of the boathouse open, all should be well. I would just like to add, I'm very pleased Llandudno is finally getting its new lifeboat station and hopefully, this time because it's being built in the right location, it will be done without any animosity or ranker.
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Post by: Gwynant on March 14, 2016, 08:24:45 pm
 
When the new Lifeboat Station is completed I hope that lessons will be learnt from the fiasco of the sailing club slipway.     The pebbles are always  moving in that area as you can see when you look in the Paddling Pool after a Winter storm.
The last thing they want after moving to the new site is any delay in clearing pebbles from the slipway prior to an emergency launch
   

      I don't think the new life-boat allocated to Llandudno which is a "Shannon" Class fibreglass boat needs a slipway Hugo, as I was watching when they were doing the tests a few months ago and they were launching it from an articulated tractor/carriage straight off the sloping shingle bank and retrieving it by running ashore at speed back onto the shingle, then hauling it back onto the carriage in the area where the new station is going to be situated. The boathouse will have a concrete apron in front of it to enable it to be manoeuvred in and out of the building of course. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 14, 2016, 10:44:31 pm
After a 20 year wait for the new Lifeboat Station they have had time to do their homework and test the area so I hope that everything goes well for the guys on the Lifeboat because they certainly deserve the best that can be offered to them.
There can be no excuses now after so long in the planning.
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Post by: mull on March 15, 2016, 10:52:15 am
Ship looks like an ex Royal Navy Fleet Tender. A large number built in the 1970s when we had a navy.
A number of them allocated to Royal Naval Auxiliary Service for anchorage control duties around the coast.  In the late 1970s I was a member of the Bristol unit and used to enjoy working on the 2 allocated to the Bristol Channel area ( Loyal Chancellor and Loyal Moderator ).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on March 16, 2016, 09:01:15 am
"Trinity House Vessel MAIR has been working on buoys off the N Wales coast today. Here she is attending (painting) to a marker just off the beach at Llandudno."

As stated on Ship AIS forum , they  where painting the marker pole green.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: squiggle on March 16, 2016, 10:48:35 am
Ship looks like an ex Royal Navy Fleet Tender. A large number built in the 1970s when we had a navy.
A number of them allocated to Royal Naval Auxiliary Service for anchorage control duties around the coast.  In the late 1970s I was a member of the Bristol unit and used to enjoy working on the 2 allocated to the Bristol Channel area ( Loyal Chancellor and Loyal Moderator ).

Apparently,  "formerly the 'Clovelly' class vessel RMAS HORNING"

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on March 18, 2016, 10:15:13 am
            Work seems to  have started on tidying up the area in and around the yachting pond on West Shore. They have dug out all the sand from the ornamental pond that used to house the White rabbit statue before it was renovated and repositioned next to the nearby Bus Terminus, and there is a mini-muckshift emptying the sand, stones, tyres, traffic cones etc from the yachting pond itself.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 22, 2016, 11:52:22 am
Work has started on the new Lifeboat Station at Craig Y Don. There are traffic lights on the prom at that point now, don't know how long they will be there for.
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Post by: SteveH on March 27, 2016, 09:40:47 pm
Man in Little Orme fall flown to hospital

An elderly man was flown to hospital after falling on the Little Orme.
The man, 71, fell at about 3.45pm today and an air ambulance was requested due to his location.
He suffered a shoulder injury and was flown to Ysbyty Gwynedd in Bangor for further treatment.


The man was near the top of the mountain when he fell, and was carried down by members of the coastguard who were called to help.
 spokesman for the Welsh Ambulance Service said: “We were called at 3.42pm about reports of an elderly man who had fallen and sustained an injury.
“Because of the location, it was not accesible by a normal ambulance crew and the air ambulance was requested.
“The man was flown to Ysbyty Gwynedd with a suspected shoulder injury.”
A witness said: “The Little Orme was quite busy. There were a lot of concerned people watching on.”

A spokesman for Holyhead Coastguard said: “Llandudno, Bangor and Penmon coastguard recue teams, consisting of roughly 10 people, assisted the ambulance to recover an elderly man who had slipped and fallen on the Little Orme.
“The casualty was recovered to a waiting air ambulance and his wife was transported to Ysbyty Gwynedd by the coastguard.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-little-orme-fall-flown-11101268 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-little-orme-fall-flown-11101268)
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Post by: SteveH on March 28, 2016, 11:54:03 am
Linked comment from the above story....REF DP.

"The injured man was my stepdad.  He is an extremely fit 74 year old but just lost his footing.  He has suffered a broken shoulder and small fracture to his skull.  My mum who was with him at the time couldn't believe the response from the emergency services who were absolutely amazing.  An ambulance would not have got anywhere near - hence the helicopter.  I would like to express our sincere thanks to those who helped and to Ben the passing policeman and 2 nurses who kept my mum calm.  They were having such a lovely Easter break in Llandudno!"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 28, 2016, 01:52:10 pm
On the Great Orme, just below Black Gate, some additional double yellow lines were put down late last year to allow traffic to get up and down and particularly to avoid the log jam caused by the bus being unable to get up Ty Gwyn Rd.

However, things are as bad as ever, if not worse because people are completely ignoring them, (and parking all over them), and it appears that the traffic wardens are simply too lazy to walk up there to take a look.
Another well managed process!

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Post by: Blongb on March 28, 2016, 01:52:15 pm
Linked comment from the above story....REF DP.

"The injured man was my stepdad.  He is an extremely fit 74 year old but just lost his footing.  He has suffered a broken shoulder and small fracture to his skull. 

Sorry to read about your stepfather's accident Steve, I wish him well and hope he makes a swift recovery.  ££$
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Post by: Blongb on March 28, 2016, 01:59:42 pm

However, things are as bad as ever, if not worse because people are completely ignoring them, (and parking all over them), and it appears that the traffic wardens are simply too lazy to walk up there to take a look.
Another well managed process!

In my humble opinion a lot of that is due to the Council being responsible for Parking enforcement now instead of the Police. They tend to go for the ^*^0 easy target not the necessary one's.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 28, 2016, 02:07:05 pm
Linked comment from the above story....REF DP.
"The injured man was my stepdad.  He is an extremely fit 74 year old but just lost his footing.  He has suffered a broken shoulder and small fracture to his skull. 
Sorry to read about your stepfather's accident Steve, I wish him well and hope he makes a swift recovery.  ££$

Sorry Blongb.   For the misunderstanding, the comment was a later link to the story, by his stepdaughter, again I am sorry for not making it clearer, but thanks for your good wishes anyway....    :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 28, 2016, 06:41:32 pm
On the Great Orme, just below Black Gate, some additional double yellow lines were put down late last year to allow traffic to get up and down and particularly to avoid the log jam caused by the bus being unable to get up Ty Gwyn Rd.

However, things are as bad as ever, if not worse because people are completely ignoring them, (and parking all over them), and it appears that the traffic wardens are simply too lazy to walk up there to take a look.
Another well managed process!

Contact number for Parking Enforcement  :- 576 622
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 29, 2016, 09:52:32 am
We parked at the Summit Car Park on the Orme over the weekend and I noticed that the Pay & Display machine was still broken - this on a Bank Holiday Weekend! How many months has it been broken for and how much revenue have CCBC lost as a result? Very poor management!  &shake&
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Post by: OrmeMac on March 29, 2016, 11:10:16 am
Man in Little Orme fall flown to hospital

The man was near the top of the mountain...

Is the Little Orme really a mountain?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 29, 2016, 02:35:41 pm
Not by any stretch of the imagination...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on March 29, 2016, 03:02:29 pm
We parked at the Summit Car Park on the Orme over the weekend and I noticed that the Pay & Display machine was still broken - this on a Bank Holiday Weekend! How many months has it been broken for and how much revenue have CCBC lost as a result? Very poor management!  &shake&

There was no one on the toll gate for Marine Drive yesterday either.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 29, 2016, 05:59:09 pm
It must have cost plenty in lost revenue. :o
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Post by: TheMedz on March 29, 2016, 09:24:03 pm
On the Great Orme, just below Black Gate, some additional double yellow lines were put down late last year to allow traffic to get up and down and particularly to avoid the log jam caused by the bus being unable to get up Ty Gwyn Rd.

However, things are as bad as ever, if not worse because people are completely ignoring them, (and parking all over them), and it appears that the traffic wardens are simply too lazy to walk up there to take a look.
Another well managed process!
Good point Fester. Let my rant commence!
The double yellow lines however unfortunately only come into force from the 1st of April which is I believe the date the trams are supposed to start from.
I have spent various times since the Tram came back early on line last week on the 19th of March in absolute wonderment at the stupidity of some drivers and parkers.
Just above the double yellow lines is a box junction which you are not supposed to enter unless your exit is clear. If there are cars stopped at the traffic lights coming up Ty Gwyn Road and cars parked on the double yellows down Ty Gwyn Road, then cars should not enter the box but they still do. Very often there are two cars in the box junction when the tram comes down the hill and can't get down Old Road.  The tram then continuously blows the  horn to ask them to move which they can't because other cars have stopped just behind them which then causes all the other cars to blow theirs in frustration. Any Easter serenity there might have been was well and truly gone by about 11:00 am on Easter Sunday until 5:30 when the trams stop. I've taken a note of the enforecement number.
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Post by: Hugo on March 29, 2016, 09:38:10 pm
You are spot on there Medz, I was driving down Ty Gwyn Road and had to stop at the lights.  When the lights changed to green the two cars in front of me at the lights drove off and immediately blocked the box junction.
I refused to move off as no vehicles were moving up or down and the delivery man behind me was tooting his horn and then winding his window down and swearing at me.
 In the end the idiot in the white van reversed and then overtook me and just added to the congestion problem.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 30, 2016, 12:44:37 pm
When my wife and I were attempting to get down Ty Gwyn road on Easter Monday,  we got trapped just outside the box junction, by traffic coming up the road leaving absolutely no gap,  but the Tram loomed behind us and began hooting at us to get out of the way.
The only possible escape route was down Old Road,  but I wouldn't do that.

It was chaos, and it is getting worse... but it is entirely avoidable by simply stopping the parking on the double yellows. 
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Post by: SteveH on March 31, 2016, 01:08:23 pm
Man in Little Orme fall flown to hospital
An elderly man was flown to hospital after falling on the Little Orme.
The man, 71, fell at about 3.45pm today and an air ambulance was requested due to his location.
He suffered a shoulder injury and was flown to Ysbyty Gwynedd in Bangor for further treatment.
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Man who cracked skull in Little Orme fall on the mend
A 71-year-old man who suffered a fractured skull and broken shoulder after slipping on the Little Orme is recovering at home.
Dennis Walsh, a regular hiker in North Wales, took a nasty tumble near the top of the Llandudno mountainside while walking with his partner Barbara Kelly on Sunday afternoon.

His stepdaughter Lisa Clarke today praised kind hearted members of the public, emergency services and hospital staff who helped Mr Walsh from Lancashire.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-who-cracked-skull-little-11117601 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-who-cracked-skull-little-11117601)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 31, 2016, 01:17:00 pm
A pleasure to see Mr and Mrs Gwynant on the pier today!  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on March 31, 2016, 03:32:17 pm
Was at black gate this morning fester doesn't help the two cars parked outside their house just below the yellow boxes ,maybe better if they parked by prospect terrace ,
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Post by: Gwynant on March 31, 2016, 04:02:43 pm
A pleasure to see Mr and Mrs Gwynant on the pier today!  $walesflag$
A pleasure also to see you again,Sir! We had a stroll down to the end of the pier and back, taking advantage of the sunshine and were pleasantly surprised by the nice reconditioned kiosks at the Pier entrance and also to see that most of the memorial seats have been re-painted, as has a lot of the wrought-iron railings. On a different note there seem to be quite a few empty kiosks seaward of Fester's, which might indicate increased rent..........
  I also enjoyed the piped 60's music on the tannoy system at the end of the pier also, although I realise it might not be appreciated by everyone. The stall selling 50's and 60's CDs is also always worth a visit.    8)   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on March 31, 2016, 04:48:01 pm
Did he spend any money this is the question
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Post by: Fester on March 31, 2016, 05:26:58 pm
People wonder about the empty kiosks, those little shops that have closed down, but is it any wonder when words like this are spoken, (outside my kiosk only a moment ago)

... 'Put that down Ethan, remember what we said, we are having a whole holiday where we don't purchase ANYTHING!'
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on March 31, 2016, 06:26:41 pm
Did he spend any money this is the question

       Come on Wrex, you know damn well when I go out I never take any cash with me!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on March 31, 2016, 09:21:22 pm
Was at black gate this morning fester doesn't help the two cars parked outside their house just below the yellow boxes ,maybe better if they parked by prospect terrace ,
Tomorrow is the big test. The double yellows come into force from 1st April. Today those cars are parked inconveniently. As of tomorrow those cars are parked illegally.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on April 09, 2016, 05:02:04 pm
Is the Camera Obscura still only open on Tuesdays and, if so, what are the opening hours? I've tried for years to find it open so hopefully I may just manage it the day after the Victorian Extravaganza ends.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 09, 2016, 09:40:22 pm
   Just on a practical point probably the best person to ask about the Camera Obscura opening times would be the young lady that runs the family cafe at the bottom. She keeps her eyes out on everything going on round there
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on April 10, 2016, 04:42:04 pm
   Just on a practical point probably the best person to ask about the Camera Obscura opening times would be the young lady that runs the family cafe at the bottom. She keeps her eyes out on everything going on round there

Thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 11, 2016, 02:20:52 am
OK, I got drunk tonight, as you can tell by the time of this post,  but....
.... I have come to realise that the town's pubs and clubs are thriving, but only after 11pm, and only if they offer FREE entry,

Let me explain.
We got to The Snooze and the Gresham by about 9pm, and they were so empty that after serving us, they decided to close.
We moseyed down to The Fountains at 10pm,  getting busier, but across the road, The London and Cooneys,  no one in.
Cooney's has had a change of decor, and gone 'up market',   big mistake, HUGE mistake.

We spent the rest of the night in The Town House and the Cross Keys,  terrible pubs in themselves these days, (and I used to love them)... but they are offering cheap beer,  Karaoke, and free entry...... and they are RAKING it in, because they understand their market.  All the familiar faces were there, and everyone enjoying themselves.
Bless them,, I've had a great night,  and once I sober up,  I'm going to do it again!   ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 11, 2016, 01:46:56 pm
Don't think the Keys is such a bad pub. As you said, it knows what it is and has cheap booze. At least there's generally some chat there.

That said, their beer offer is terrible. Brains or bust for me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on April 12, 2016, 01:06:11 pm
               When I was out this morning I noticed small a recycling multi-bin by the cenotaph,(see attached  pic), and there is also one by the station and I assume they must also be in various other busy areas around the town. It was comprised of 4 separate compartments for paper, card, plastic and and "litter", but no compartment for bottles, glass  etc.  As all the recycling bins have been removed recently from ASDA car park I think these smaller bins must be a "gentle nudge" by CCBC to increase public awareness about recycling, which in itself is no bad thing. However when I worked in ASDA the recycling area was always busy with customers and also local businesses emptying their empty bottles and cans, newspapers, cardboard packaging  etc which would fill up these new little bins in an hour. The down side of the recycling area was that we sometimes used to come in to work in the morning and there were TVs, mattresses, bedsteads, furniture and gardening rubbish etc all over the place, which the car park staff had to clean up and put in the compacting skip in the warehouse. I know there are still bigger bins available in the car park at Maelgwyn Road but it was always a handy spot in ASDA, and customers used to bring their recycling in when they did their shopping.  I believe the bins were removed because of the fly-tipping problem, and there is a notice saying "NO FLY-TIPPING, you are being watched, CCTV in operation" there now but ASDA has had a CCTV camera there for years and to my knowledge nobody was ever identified or prosecuted, but I could be wrong. The other "down" point of the removal of all the recycling bins there is the fact that the Charity Bins for shoes, books, clothes etc which were also removed at the same time must be a big loss to the various charities as they were always well used.
    On another subject I have attached a pic of the blocked drains on the West Shore prom, no wonder the rainwater cannot get away!
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Post by: SteveH on April 12, 2016, 01:38:05 pm
"On another subject I have attached a pic of the blocked drains on the West Shore prom, no wonder the rainwater cannot get away!"

I had a similar problem sometime ago, it took me an hour with an angle grinder, to create a small channel and smooth with cement...........cost ...pennies.
Now I wonder how long CCBC will take, and how £££££££££££££  :(
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Post by: SteveH on April 14, 2016, 03:28:31 pm
The Wales National Air Show will go ahead free of charge despite added £20,000 cost
The hugely popular Wales National Air Show will still take place free of charge this summer, organisers have conformed, despite plans by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to impose fees of £20,000 on major air shows in the wake of the Shoreham Air Disaster.

"Public safety will always be the event’s main priority, so we’ll continue to liaise with the Civil Aviation Authority.”
The aviation regulator has published its final report into how safety regulations will be tightened at UK air shows following the Shoreham disaster.

The CAA has increased the minimum altitude at which ex-military jets can perform aerobatic manoeuvres, increased the minimum distance of separation between a civil display and a crowd, and strengthened the requirements for post-display reports in a bid to improve the quality of feedback on safety issues.
Earlier this year the regulator announced other regulations such as enhanced risk assessments and tougher checks on the experience, skill and health of pilots.

This year’s Llandudno Air Show was cancelled soon after and Edware Hiller, MD of Mostyn Estates which runs the show, was unavailable for comment about how the increased fee might affect future shows.

The CAA has announed it is increasing its charges for air show organisers to fund the new safety measures. Larger displays could face an increase from £2,695 to more than £20,000.
The CAA has claimed that the proposed increase in fees would be covered by a rise of “just a few pence per ticket” for some small shows and “less than 20p” for larger ones.

Supporters of air shows have urged the CAA to mitigate the impact of the new charges.
The Keep Air Shows Airborne campaign called for costs to be met with Lottery funding for air shows raising money for charity, and any increase in fees to be postponed until next year.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wales-national-air-show-go-11183877 (http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/wales-national-air-show-go-11183877)
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Post by: SteveH on April 16, 2016, 07:06:51 pm
Llandudno Air Show has already been cancelled this year.
Edward Hiller, of Llandudno Air Show organisers Mostyn Estates, said the new rules are “more exacting” but that there is still huge public support for the air show to make a comeback.
He said: “I’m pleased we made the decision (to cancel) earlier rather than later.
But there is a strong will from the public and other organisations in the town to see it brought back.”

Rhyl Air Show to go ahead despite more Civil Aviation Authority guidelines
Denbighshire County Council says it remains “committed” to running Rhyl Air Show on August 27 and 28, after it attracted more than 140,000 spectators last year.
MORE   http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhyl-air-show-go-ahead-11193308 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhyl-air-show-go-ahead-11193308)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 21, 2016, 05:54:33 pm
That old cage looked awful and didn't really do much to protect the statue. Hopefully having it in a more visible location will help deter vandalism.
I do not think it will, it would not take much to damage it beyond repair, there must be a more secure, yet public site available
The Mayor of Llandudno has appealed for vandals to stay away after officially unveiling the town’s repaired White Rabbit statue     
The Mayor of Llandudno has appealed for the town's new look White Rabbit statue to be respected.
On Saturday, it was relocated to land beside a former tram shelter in Gloddaeth Street.
The marble figure, inspired by Lewis Carroll’s 150-year-old classic book Alice in Wonderland, had been at West Shore but was vandalised.

It was recently repaired by Llandudno sculptor Nick Elphick after having been removed in 2012.
“I don’t believe it would be sufficiently protected by a barrier. But if parents told their children about the value of the statue to the town, and the Alice in Wonderland story, perhaps people will respect the statue and leave it there.”

Do you know who fixed Llandudno's white rabbit?
A phantom fixer took the time to mend Llandudno’s iconic white rabbit following a suspected vandal attack.
The Grade-II listed object on West Shore was discovered with its pocket watch and left paw detached yesterday morning (April 20).
But by the afternoon the parts had curiously been glued back on and covered with tape.

Llandudno Town Council, which owns the statue, and Conwy County Council were unaware of the incident until contacted by the Daily Post.

Mayor Cllr Frank Bradfield, said: “Initially I was devastated to hear the news but heartened that somebody loves the statue as much as the council, staff and public do and glued it back on.

“Protecting the statue is something we need to discuss in the future. There are plans underway to put a border around the statue, which I unveiled last year.”
However, it was repeatedly targeted by vandals, so council officials took it away in 2012 to a Conwy County Council yard in Colwyn Bay to be repaired.

Llandudno sculptor Nick Elphick has restored the town's iconic White Rabbit statue.
The town council is now investigating.

Cllr Bradfield, who said he hoped this latest damage was done accidentally, added: “I would particularly like to thank the person who repaired the statue.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/you-know-who-fixed-llandudnos-11222165 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/you-know-who-fixed-llandudnos-11222165)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 23, 2016, 04:52:16 pm
I had a look at the statue today, half expecting it to have been taken away for safe keeping? but still there, the tape has been removed and you can see were it was broken.

“Protecting the statue is something we need to discuss in the future."
Is that after it has been irreparably damaged.

"Llandudno sculptor Nick Elphick has restored the town's iconic White Rabbit statue.
How much did that cost.

“I would particularly like to thank the person who repaired the statue.”
I hope the person (well meaning) who repaired the statue had some experience.

And a quote from a year ago.
“I don’t believe it would be sufficiently protected by a barrier. But if parents told their children about the value of the statue to the town, and the Alice in Wonderland story, perhaps people will respect the statue and leave it there.”     &shake&
             
It needs to be protected now, before it is to late.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 24, 2016, 12:32:38 pm
  Do the "people" (for want of a better word) who destruct in this way realise the upset their actions impose on other people? Or don't they care? Or even maybe that's why they do it. It's not the act of destruction that gives them a high. It's the thought that hundreds will be mildly upset. Or maybe badly upset.
  It's at times like this that I think the one and only good thing Hitler did was to eradicate this behaviour
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 24, 2016, 01:36:28 pm
...but through organised acts of wilful destruction...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 24, 2016, 11:50:44 pm
... until he himself was destroyed by violence...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 28, 2016, 06:35:49 pm
Right now....  There are billions of little bits of freezing ice falling from the sky, and bouncing off my bald head!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 29, 2016, 09:47:55 am
Looks like Saturday is going to be the best day for the Extravaganza, weather wise. Bodafon field is getting a bit muddy with all the recent hail/rain, be warned if you're thinking of going to the Transport Festival.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 29, 2016, 10:19:07 am
I seem to remember, many years ago, when we had guests who brought a traction engine, that Bodafon was unusable to anything heavy and all the heavyweight vehicles had to be left overnight in the station yard. Chaos reigned, even then ! :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 29, 2016, 04:53:39 pm
I see Gloddaeth Ave. is beginning to look like a Motorhome park, I know Colwyn Bay has or is doing something about this, (Reply 937 21/8/15 Every thing to do with Col.Bay ) I thought there was talk on the forum about Llandudno doing similar.?They are taking up at least two car spaces per van.but I am sure the money saved will be spent in town. _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 29, 2016, 06:03:27 pm
Phooo I think not ! :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 30, 2016, 11:05:44 pm
 Carrying on in a different tack but still whats Llandudno Like right now? How many noticed today that the "Monkey Man" has undergone a dramatic change. Reminded me of an old T,V programme where a mild mannered man changed into the hulk if he was annoyed.
   I didn't recognise the monkey man at first. It was just his style of dancing which I knew I had seen before. But now accompanied by a very attractive female partner his dress was very similar to that worn by the late Lemmy. Fester, if you saw him in the parade, do you agree?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 30, 2016, 11:54:41 pm
Carrying on in a different tack but still whats Llandudno Like right now? How many noticed today that the "Monkey Man" has undergone a dramatic change. Reminded me of an old T,V programme where a mild mannered man changed into the hulk if he was annoyed.
   I didn't recognise the monkey man at first. It was just his style of dancing which I knew I had seen before. But now accompanied by a very attractive female partner his dress was very similar to that worn by the late Lemmy. Fester, if you saw him in the parade, do you agree?

I try not to look at him Mike, can't stand him so I don't give him the attention he craves.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 01, 2016, 08:04:56 am
We checked the met office forcast last night, it said dry for Sunday morning, so we loaded up the car to do the car boot sale at the Oval. Then this morning when the forcast still says dry, it is chucking down! How can they get it so wrong??  :rage:  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on May 01, 2016, 08:07:14 am
Not sure if you are on facebook Mike but there are some good photos of the parade and you on there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 01, 2016, 11:51:09 am
We checked the met office forcast last night, it said dry for Sunday morning, so we loaded up the car to do the car boot sale at the Oval. Then this morning when the forcast still says dry, it is chucking down! How can they get it so wrong??  :rage:  :rage:
It's worse than that ME,  The BBC news forecast on TV shows rain all over N Wales until 5pm today. But the BBC News website weather forecast shows NO rain in N Wales at all today, not a drop.  It's ridiculous!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 01, 2016, 12:01:32 pm
All that money spent on weather forcasting equipment and still they get it wrong!  &shake&  my forcast for tomorrow....it might rain, possible dry spells.  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 01, 2016, 02:38:45 pm
Not sure if you are on facebook Mike but there are some good photos of the parade and you on there.

See you managed to get the gear Mike !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 01, 2016, 03:19:23 pm
We checked the met office forcast last night, it said dry for Sunday morning, so we loaded up the car to do the car boot sale at the Oval. Then this morning when the forcast still says dry, it is chucking down! How can they get it so wrong??  :rage:  :rage:
It's worse than that ME,  The BBC news forecast on TV shows rain all over N Wales until 5pm today. But the BBC News website weather forecast shows NO rain in N Wales at all today, not a drop.  It's ridiculous!!

In the past we have cancelled a number of our walks due to adverse weather forecasts, but on the actual days we were due to do the walks the weather has been good.       :rage:
Now we wait until the morning of the day before we cancel any walk.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 01, 2016, 09:43:15 pm
  Fester. I don't know the monkey man apart from by sight. But you are not the type to hate anyone without reason.
   Anyway I've had plenty of sight of him in the last two days. Today he was dressed as an Elvis lookalike (I think) and his lady did a spell pushing the pram. No dancing from either of them. But I must say they appear to have a lot of friends and admirers in the crowd. Several times someone darted out to give handshakes and hugs. Cannot say anyone did that to me.
   So, sorry Fester, I will be watching out for him tomorrow to see what he is dressed up as. And I suppose all actors crave attention. Not really such a bad thing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 01, 2016, 09:50:18 pm
Nemesis, I spend half my life on Facebook. I know a lot of people sneer at it and point out the disputes and discord it can cause. But as far as I am concerned it has done me nothing but good. It has reunited me with members of my own family and I have even met close members of my family that I only knew vaguely existed.
   And its taken a few bob out of my pockets on advertising, but the adverts are directed straight at where I need it. Unlike flyers and posters which are expensive and are just scatter gun tools, most of it directed at people who have no interest in golf.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 01, 2016, 09:58:24 pm
I don't hate him Mike, I just cannot bear him as I am suspicious of his motives.

There is enough genuine mental illness around, (in this area particularly) without someone pretending to be so.  He picks and chooses when to be nuts.  I thought eccentricity was not something you switch on and off?
I also believe that the new Mrs Monkey has a daughter, who sometimes accompanies them.  What a strange environment to embroil that hold or any child in?
I might be wrong about that, it was 2nd hand information,  and I might be in a tiny minority, but I don't like the guy for several reasons and thats just how I feel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 01, 2016, 10:41:53 pm
   Sorry Fester. You never used the word "hate" and I should not have written it. Could I say dislike? But I do think even if you are correct you are in a minority. The majority view is that he is harmless and brings a bit of a smile to strangers. And I must repeat. There were plenty of people genuinely pleased to rush out to both of them. I was behind on the two days I saw it for myself.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 01, 2016, 10:49:57 pm
   Hello Hollins. I'm sorry by mistake I addressed my reply to Nemesis, because she had commented later and I must be falling asleep. I didn't notice who had written the first post.
  All my remarks about Facebook I redirect to you. I think its marvellous. I know plenty of people will disagree but I just speak as I personally find. Oh, and I must admit my conceit I've just spent around half an hour to have a look at myself, without any luck. Serve me right 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on May 02, 2016, 10:28:09 am
Sorry you couldn't find the photos of you Mike.
They are on the, "You know you are from Llandudno...." facebook page and the relevant post is from
Kell McNicholas
30 April at 23:03

I don't think it is allowed to pinch the photo and put it on here so I hope you find it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 02, 2016, 07:31:11 pm
  Just got back from the third days parade. So a cup of tea and I will try your suggestions. Thanks. Mike
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Post by: Nemesis on May 02, 2016, 08:16:39 pm
I have a good one of you Mike.!!
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Post by: Fester on May 02, 2016, 11:27:39 pm
Had a couple of beers in town tonight, but only a couple because it was utterly deserted.
It was interesting to watch the rides being dismantled and I have to say that they spent a lot of time cleaning up the streets of any debris.  Fair play to them.
Other than that, Bank holiday Monday was like a Monday in January so I was home in front of the telly in time for Match of the Day.  Congratulations to Leicester City by the way, an incredible achievement.

Tomorrow morning you would be forgiven for thinking that the Extravaganza was never here!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on May 03, 2016, 01:35:00 pm
Caught this con-trail over to the west of Llandudno this morning, all made by the same aircraft circling to the west of Llandudno before heading off north-west. Did anyone catch it in FlightRadar or similar for any details?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 03, 2016, 02:28:07 pm
The work on the new Lifeboat Station is progressing ok
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Post by: SteveH on May 03, 2016, 02:37:22 pm
Caught this con-trail over to the west of Llandudno this morning, all made by the same aircraft circling to the west of Llandudno before heading off north-west. Did anyone catch it in FlightRadar or similar for any details?

I read in the DP this morning, that this aircraft was not showing up on FlightRadar , usually aircraft can be put in a circular holding pattern, but no ID, is quite strange.
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Post by: SDQ on May 04, 2016, 12:06:09 am
Caught this con-trail over to the west of Llandudno this morning, all made by the same aircraft circling to the west of Llandudno before heading off north-west. Did anyone catch it in FlightRadar or similar for any details?

I read in the DP this morning, that this aircraft was not showing up on FlightRadar , usually aircraft can be put in a circular holding pattern, but no ID, is quite strange.


It may have been an aircraft on a test flight after a service at somewhere like Hawarden so wouldn't have the usual flight details available.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 04, 2016, 07:16:15 am
or a Russia jet
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 04, 2016, 08:10:32 am
Possibly spying on Llandudno Mbi in advance of the draw next month for the Europa League?
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Post by: mull on May 04, 2016, 09:17:28 am
Any connection with sonic booms reported over Yorkshire,Typhoon jets scrambled from RAF Leeming to investigate a plane not responding to ID calls ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 04, 2016, 10:57:26 am
Any connection with sonic booms reported over Yorkshire,Typhoon jets scrambled from RAF Leeming to investigate a plane not responding to ID calls ?

Few more details on your sonic booms
Typhoon jets were scrambled on Monday night to intercept a wayward Air France airliner over Yorkshire – with the deafening booms caused by the supersonic pursuit shaking residents in their houses.

The aircraft were launched from RAF Coningsby to identify an unresponsive civilian aircraft, the Ministry of Defence said. The loud bangs were later confirmed to have been sonic booms.

An RAF spokesman said: “Quick reaction alert Typhoon aircraft were launched today from RAF Coningsby to identify an unresponsive civilian aircraft. Communications were re-established and the aircraft has been safely landed.”
Air France confirmed that the unresponsive civilian aircraft was one of its planes.
“Air France confirms that due to a radio communication problem AF 1558 had to be accompanied by two British fighter aircrafts according to the procedure,”      REF Guardian
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Post by: Fester on May 05, 2016, 12:28:49 am
Wrex, it was great to see you and Mrs W tonight.  I had a great time with you.
But we didn't end up going for a meal, we stupidly carried on for a few more beers.  Z** Z**
Late night, The Fountains is OK,  BUT .. the Town House just attracts dross, and bother (and me), but such was the case tonight.   
It's a shame that the more 'salubrious' venues in Llandudno all shut too early.   &shake& &shake&
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Post by: SteveH on May 07, 2016, 01:36:39 pm
We have talked on here about motorhomes parking free, on the street, and the space they take up, usually over the weekend with the expected negative comments, but how would we feel if they parked up for a month or the summer ?....

At the beginning of April I noticed a car and (commercial ) snack bar trailer (approx 35ft.) parked on Gloddaeth Ave by the car park, I joked "he had turned up early for the Extravaganza " ........it has not moved and is still there today five weeks later and as far as I can tell, he is entitled to stay there legally,   any thoughts ?
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Post by: Nemesis on May 07, 2016, 01:58:59 pm
I too have noticed the vehicle and commented to my OH that it had been there for a while. We walk past it with our dog at least twice a day and as far as we can tell it hasn't moved. My thoughts are 'What good is it doing, if it isn't being used?' I can't imagine the people who live opposite are particularly thrilled with looking at it, but as you say he is not breaching any rules. If I notice a smell of burgers I will let you know !!! :o :D
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Post by: Gwynant on May 07, 2016, 02:12:04 pm
         I've also noticed it parked there for a few weeks and like Steve I thought it was parked up waiting for the Extravaganza Weekend but it hasn't moved at all. The only thing that has changed is that the O/S/R tyre on the towing vehicle has gone flat and been re-inflated twice in that time!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 07, 2016, 02:13:32 pm
Someone must be missing out making their profit !
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Post by: Michael on May 07, 2016, 06:47:26 pm
  Change the area to up the Great Orme. Sorry for all the residents living behind the Empire Hotel and the three businesses up there. Yes, that's right, I'm one of them. And Fester going to work and themedz going wherever.
  Because if you haven't already realised yourselves you've got some bad news coming your way.
  A few days ago I noticed water on the road going up the Orme just at the narrowest dogs leg section. Sure enough it's getting worse and worse by the day.
  You don't need to be a water engineer to realise that some underground pipe has burst. To cure it you will have to dig down, and give yourselves a bit of space to work. Not so far off the middle of the road.
  So, to the future. Road closed. Diversions? Not feasible up the tram track. So it's up Marine Drive, turnrun left then left again by the halfway station.
  Must make a diary note for myself. Prepare to alter alarm clock. Mike
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Post by: Nemesis on May 07, 2016, 07:05:45 pm
There appears to be another mini stream coming from a grate on the narrow part near the Old Rectory, just below the toilets by the graveyard.
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Post by: snowcap on May 07, 2016, 09:50:17 pm
I noticed it yesterday Mike looks like a big job coming up,how long before it gets fixed I wonder. Watch this space superpose.
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Post by: TheMedz on May 07, 2016, 11:52:02 pm
They had a similar  burst problem further down the road and that was controlled by using traffic lights. Getting down that part of the road with the current water problem with cars parked and buses coming up and down is a pain at the best of times. Just need to synchronise any traffic lights with those at Black Gate or the Tram bell will be incessant again as cars get loaded into the box junction at Black Gate.
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Post by: Ian on May 08, 2016, 04:01:24 pm
Quote
A few days ago I noticed water on the road going up the Orme just at the narrowest dogs leg section.

Never seen water going up a road.  Might be able to make it an attraction  ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: HunkyDory on May 09, 2016, 09:51:56 am
Hi everyone…once again, than you for allowing me to become a member of the forum.  I posted in the Ask a Local Section for the first time yesterday, about good horse riding in the three towns area.  Looking forward to any local recommendations.

As I mentioned, my elderly mum and two of my aunties have recently moved to Llandudno.  $walesflag$  As she isn’t “on the line” and refuses to use “wangfangled” computers, she has set me a task!  ???  The three of them are game old birds (their words, not mine!) and like getting out and about.  One thing they have always done regularly over here in Manchester is to buy the Big Issue magazine.  The fuss over the sellers and I think treat them like surrogate children!  They believe it is good to have a social conscience and do various charity work. 

Having spent most of the summer visiting and staying in different N Wales towns, they noticed that there was a lot of Big Issue sellers.  They got a bit confused over who was genuine and who wasn’t because there are people who sell it where they shouldn’t and people who sell it when they aren’t licensed to sell it.  Mum thinks they are “on the seaside busy town gravy train”.  I agreed to help them find out who are the real sellers are and made some phone calls to different offices, they all now know where the real sellers should be.  Consequently, they’ve got their indignation levels up and seem determined to route out anyone who isn’t genuine.

Personally, I haven’t paid that much attention to it when I’ve been there with them, but if this is something they are going to be on some sort of crusade about, I thought I should find out if it is a real problem.  I don’t want them getting into something and potentially being at risk as I have heard that there have been a lot of organised sort of syndicates involved.

So, I wondered if it is a regular summer problem?
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Post by: Nemesis on May 09, 2016, 10:23:07 am
We seem to have them all year, both here and in Colwyn Bay which are the only two places I regularly go to, but they same to be the same ones, usually in the same place.
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Post by: OrmeMac on May 09, 2016, 02:28:06 pm
I have to say I was really impressed with how Llandudno was looking when I visted last week. There was even a huge improvement in how the Halfre Gardens were looking.

The biggest let-down was the state of a well-known store on the main street and how they think they would get away with presenting themselves like this is beyond me. The windows were covered in old sticky tape residue, ripped parts from old posters and current posters had fallen down. To be honest I didn't dare go inside for fear of being covered in cobwebs or stock falling on me. It used to be the case that senior management visited stores on a regular basis to check how everything was being run and presented to the public. I guess that doesn't happen any more and the shop is just waiting to be closed down.

Even the windows in some of the empty shops were cleaner than this mess!
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Post by: HunkyDory on May 09, 2016, 03:22:23 pm
We seem to have them all year, both here and in Colwyn Bay which are the only two places I regularly go to, but they same to be the same ones, usually in the same place.

She says they are Romanian and don't stand where they are supposed to be.  I'll have to ask her where they stand.
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Post by: SteveH on May 09, 2016, 04:36:34 pm
The biggest let-down was the state of a well-known store on the main street and how they think they would get away with presenting themselves like this is beyond me. The windows were covered in old sticky tape residue, ripped parts from old posters and current posters had fallen down.

Could not agree more, We were discussing the same thing only last week, as you say most are doing there best but a company such as this is letting themselves down as well as the town.


http://money.aol.co.uk/2016/05/09/can-greggs-plc-wh-smith-plc--moneysupermarketcom-group-plc-reverse-this-years-losses/ (http://money.aol.co.uk/2016/05/09/can-greggs-plc-wh-smith-plc--moneysupermarketcom-group-plc-reverse-this-years-losses/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 09, 2016, 05:11:01 pm
Not sure why nobody seems bothered by the state of our beach,now forget the stones its the bit of beach we had left which of course is gradually getting covered by the stones,nobody seems to show the slightest interest in getting them cleared away,if i had a hotel on the prom i would be going mad,donkeys,boats its all a joke and no interest.
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Post by: OrmeMac on May 09, 2016, 08:06:54 pm
And the end of the long jetty is falling apart with an unsightly metal railing tied to it.
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Post by: DVT on May 09, 2016, 09:25:16 pm
Mrs DVT and I went for a walk along the prom and pier on Sunday afternoon - very busy and the nearest spot we found to park was behind the Washington, so we got plenty of exercise walking to the end of the pier!  Loads of people, although whether or not they were spending may be debatable.  Long queue waiting the cable car as well.

What puzzled us was the amount of bits of wood floating about in the sea, seemingly tree branches - where has that come from, never been aware of that in the past.
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Post by: spotty dog on May 09, 2016, 09:36:30 pm
The debris in the sea probably came from the exceptional high tides we had this weekend conwy river was full of tree branches the large tide wil have washed the driftwood from the high water mark
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 10, 2016, 08:53:35 am
The biggest let-down was the state of a well-known store on the main street and how they think they would get away with presenting themselves like this is beyond me. The windows were covered in old sticky tape residue, ripped parts from old posters and current posters had fallen down.
It's been like that for the past few years, almost unbelievable for a major national retailer like WHSMITH.  &shake&
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Post by: Nemesis on May 10, 2016, 10:52:54 am
Mrs DVT and I went for a walk along the prom and pier on Sunday afternoon - very busy and the nearest spot we found to park was behind the Washington, so we got plenty of exercise walking to the end of the pier!  Loads of people, although whether or not they were spending may be debatable.  Long queue waiting the cable car as well.

What puzzled us was the amount of bits of wood floating about in the sea, seemingly tree branches - where has that come from, never been aware of that in the past.

Funny you should say that ! We were sitting on the front at Rhos on Sunday and the sea had numerous large pieces of wood floating in it, some were very large !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 10, 2016, 11:38:02 am
Not sure why nobody seems bothered by the state of our beach,now forget the stones its the bit of beach we had left which of course is gradually getting covered by the stones,nobody seems to show the slightest interest in getting them cleared away,if i had a hotel on the prom i would be going mad,donkeys,boats its all a joke and no interest.
I think you scared them Wrex.  From todays Daily Post

Expert consultants are being drafted in for the study into bringing a sandy beach back to Llandudno’s North Shore with the Welsh Government agreeing to fund the project.

Back in March 2014, the council loaded hundreds of tonnes of “shingle” onto North Shore Beach in a bid to dissipate anticipated high tides between then and 2016.
But the move sparked a backlash from some residents and traders who argued that the shingle was in fact quarry rubble and destroyed the aesthetics of the beach.

It saw the Restore Our Beach campaign start and the Llandudno Coastal Forum took up the fight.

Conwy council agreed to undertake a Beach Management Plan for Llandudno and they now say the Welsh Government has agreed “in principle” to contribute towards the project.
The Welsh Government has confirmed they will fund the study.

Llandudno Coastal Forum said that there had been step forward in the programme which will look at North and West Shore beaches.
Nigel Treacy, chairman of Llandudno Coastal Forum, said: “Conwy County Borough Council, having previously agreed to undertake a Beach Management Plan for Llandudno, are now moving forward and in the process of procuring consultants to assist with the work.

“The Beach Management Plan will review the history of beach management and coastal protection in Llandudno and assess all current and future options produced by the Llandudno Coastal Forum, considering matters such as flooding, access, amenity, environment, heritage, recreation, tourism opportunities and addressing wind-blown sand problems at West Shore.

“A consultation on ideas for the West Shore will be held shortly so that all ideas generated can be integrated into the options considered by consultants carrying out the work.”

Conwy council said: “Conwy County Borough Council are in dialogue with Welsh Government, who have agreed in principle to contribute funding towards the project.”
The Llandudno Hospitality Association said it was a huge milestone and said if the Welsh Governments funds the study money set aside by the county and town councils can be used for other projects.REF DP

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 10, 2016, 02:44:28 pm
Not sure why nobody seems bothered by the state of our beach,now forget the stones its the bit of beach we had left which of course is gradually getting covered by the stones,nobody seems to show the slightest interest in getting them cleared away,if i had a hotel on the prom i would be going mad,donkeys,boats its all a joke and no interest.
I think you scared them Wrex.  From todays Daily Post

“The Beach Management Plan will review the history of beach management and coastal protection in Llandudno and assess all current and future options produced by the Llandudno Coastal Forum, considering matters such as flooding, access, amenity, environment, heritage, recreation, tourism opportunities and addressing wind-blown sand problems at West Shore.

A consultation on ideas for the West Shore will be held shortly so that all ideas generated can be integrated into the options considered by consultants carrying out the work.”

Conwy council said: “Conwy County Borough Council are in dialogue with Welsh Government, who have agreed in principle to contribute funding towards the project.”


That will be very interesting Steve,   I was on the sand hills yesterday and it was a lovely place to go to and I really enjoyed the experience.    What I'd like to see and hear are explanations from the people who approved the cycle track and those that approved the sea defence of 1993 and let them explain how they got it so wrong.
I'm all for sand on sand hills as that is nature doing its job.  The dunes should be on the sand hills and not in someone's front garden.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 10, 2016, 03:03:02 pm
For more information on the       "Llandudno Coastal Forum"..........The forum was set up in response to the public outcry at the sea defence work on North Shore beach.

That the forum would work together to:

“Develop a Sustainable Beach Management strategy for Llandudno, which seeks to;

· provide beaches that are fit for purpose

· provide appropriate flood and coastal erosion risk management,

· improve the natural environment, recreational space and aesthetics

· create opportunities for commercial activities for the town”.


https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enES433ES433&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=llandudno%20coastal%20forum (https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enES433ES433&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=llandudno%20coastal%20forum)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on May 10, 2016, 03:47:49 pm
Rhos harbor was cleaned again yesterday so thats twice in a week,anyone noticed if or bit has been racked
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2016, 11:22:07 am
Expert consultants are being drafted in
This is the bit that scares me....  :laugh:
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Post by: Fester on May 11, 2016, 01:52:22 pm
Expert consultants are being drafted in
This is the bit that scares me....  :laugh:
Sounds pricey to me!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on May 11, 2016, 10:33:06 pm
  Change the area to up the Great Orme. Sorry for all the residents living behind the Empire Hotel and the three businesses up there. Yes, that's right, I'm one of them. And Fester going to work and themedz going wherever.
  Because if you haven't already realised yourselves you've got some bad news coming your way.
  A few days ago I noticed water on the road going up the Orme just at the narrowest dogs leg section. Sure enough it's getting worse and worse by the day.
  You don't need to be a water engineer to realise that some underground pipe has burst. To cure it you will have to dig down, and give yourselves a bit of space to work. Not so far off the middle of the road.
  So, to the future. Road closed. Diversions? Not feasible up the tram track. So it's up Marine Drive, turnrun left then left again by the halfway station.
  Must make a diary note for myself. Prepare to alter alarm clock. Mike

Work taking place on the burst pipe overnight.

Strangely enough the one way system they have put in place, going up Ty Gwyn and down Old Road means going up and down the Orme seems a lot easier. Don't know where the trams fit into the equation from 10 am tomorrow.
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Post by: DaveR on May 14, 2016, 09:03:24 am
Congratulations to Mr Fester.... 2016 Llandudno and District Darts Champion!  $good$
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Post by: SteveH on May 14, 2016, 10:01:01 am
Congrats. and well done Mr Fester.....  clappinghappy clappinghappy
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Post by: Nemesis on May 14, 2016, 12:19:32 pm
Well done Fes. :-*
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 14, 2016, 12:45:00 pm
Very well very done!  D)
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Post by: Ian on May 14, 2016, 01:40:13 pm
Well done for making your points :-) )))
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Post by: Fester on May 14, 2016, 02:17:15 pm
Thanks Dave, and all.... #Fester takes a bow#

In truth, it was one of those freak events that can't really happen.
Something akin to Halifax Town winning the FA Cup.
I went along to watch 2 team mates in the competition, but I was encouraged to enter.
As each round went by, some of the best players in N Wales stepped up, but they never seemed be at their best against me.
If it is possible to be lucky for 7 consecutive rounds, all on the same night, then I suppose that's exactly what happened.  I found myself in the final and somehow won it.
There are some prestigious names on that trophy, and then mine!  But in years to come people will puzzle over who the heck that one-off winner was.

I have promised NEVER to enter another tournament, as I would get no further than round 1 !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 17, 2016, 11:40:51 am
PLANS to remove Llandudno North Shore’s controversial stones have moved a step closer with Welsh Government cash being made available.

Conwy County Borough Council cabinet members agreed in January to support a beach management appraisal for Llandudno, subject to funding.

Now the Welsh Government has agreed to fund a feasibility study into the project – which will see consultants brought in to assess options for the town’s beaches, including the possible removal of thousands of tonnes of rocks on the North Shore which have made the beach unfit for children to walk on, Cllr Frank Bradfield told cabinet in January.

Nigel Treacy, chairman of Llandudno Coastal Forum, said: “Llandudno Coastal Forum are pleased to announce the next step forward in its programme.
“Conwy County Council, having previously agreed to undertake a Beach Management Plan for Llandudno, are now moving forward and in the process of procuring consultants to assist with the work.

“The Beach Management Plan will review the history of beach management and coastal protection in Llandudno and assess all current and future options produced by the Llandudno Coastal Forum considering matters such as flooding, access, amenity, environment, heritage, recreation, tourism opportunities and addressing wind-blown sand problems at West Shore.

“A consultation on ideas for the West Shore will be held shortly so that all ideas generated can be integrated into the options considered by consultants carrying out the work.”
Alison Shields, chair of the Restore Our Beach campaign, said: “It is incredible news that the study will go ahead, I couldn’t be more happy.
”The forum has been on a very long journey and have worked exceptionally well together.
”It shows the power of the public’s voice and also when there are positive responses from all parties.

”That is what Restore Our Beach asked for and that is what we will continue to do.”

Llandudno mayor Frank Bradfield said: “I’m delighted that Welsh Government has decided to fund this feasibility study – it's been a long time coming. I’m hopeful that the study combines a play area for children on the beach as well as sea protection for the town.”    ref Pioneer
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Post by: Daihardwelshman on May 17, 2016, 12:41:14 pm
Keystone cops springs to mind here.......

Which muppet is responsible for wasting our money dumping stones on the beach only for about 18 months later having them removed????

You couldnt make it up :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 17, 2016, 07:23:17 pm
I am not sure this is the correct initial thread. However, llwynon road had a bit of a crime wave around 7-14 days ago. Themedz said he was going to garage his car for the night after a nearby car was broken into. And I had three separate attacks on my caravan, two of which they gained access. Also sleepers on the second green. They departed leaving their rubbish. And other unsocial activity around.
  Anyway, an arrest was made yesterday afternoon and a person was taken to court today still under arrest. I won't go further and speculate who is involved even if I do have two people in my mind, plus another two who gladly I don't know.
  So, I sleep easy tonight? No, not really. A visit to court I 'sent a frightening event to this type of gentlemen. Oh, and the fourth was a girl.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on May 18, 2016, 09:21:26 am
"Which muppet is responsible for wasting our money dumping stones on the beach only for about 18 months later having them removed???? "

Cllr Mike Priestley
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 19, 2016, 09:28:29 pm
  To hopefully finish off the Llwynon Road crime wave. Or at least ease it off for a week or two. Ive got no news about the car breakin but I have been told who pleaded guilty for once damaged my caravan and twice gaining entry and stealing. He is, as we all thought, a very local lad. Ive got his name, I know his sentence, but I don't suppose there is much point in my putting it here. Danger now is he gets annoyed with me by calling in the police, so when he fees like it an old sack, some petrol and matches, and in the morning I come up to a pile of ashes. Thats life.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on May 23, 2016, 02:56:42 pm
Today I have sent this e-mail of complaint to the National Westminster Bank:

  Today my wife and I went into the Llandudno Nat West Branch. My wife has a Nat West account. This branch is open plan. On the left hand side is an 'office divider’ about 4’6 high. Behind this is a desk with a computer screen. The computer screen faces towards the banking hall and the screen can be seen and read over the top of the divider by anyone over 5’ tall. Previously, the desk was unattended and a draft document relating to someone’s account on the screen which I was able to read and I have also seen a customer’s bank account details on the screen. I have previously pointed this out this gross breach of confidentiality to staff TWICE, the last time to the Branch Manager who promised to do something about this. Today, the Branch Manager was talking to an older gentleman whose whole account details were on the screen in view of everyone nearby as they discussed his account details and pointed out transactions on the screen.  I was very tempted to talk a photograph or video with my mobile telephone which would have recorded every detail, but declined out of respect for the elderly customer.  That this continual breach of confidentiality continues after being pointed out is grossly negligent and I intend to ensure this receives the widest publicity to Conwy Nat West customers. They may have strong views on the fact that their account details may be on public display. 

Please let anyone you know that might be a National Westminster customer.
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Post by: Ian on May 23, 2016, 04:52:40 pm
I suspect they're also in breach of the law.
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Post by: Bosun on May 23, 2016, 06:22:22 pm
More good news. From: http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=142&doc=37873 (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/doc.asp?cat=142&doc=37873)

In a move to increase recycling and tackle £1.6m of waste, Conwy Council will soon begin collecting refuse bins every three weeks, with recycling and food waste still to be collected every week.

The new bin collections will be phased in over the summer, starting at the end of July.  All households will receive an information pack and new collection calendar before their last collection on the fortnightly schedule.
Only the refuse collection – the black wheelie bin – will change.
Recycling and food waste will still be collected every week.
Garden waste, textiles and small electrical items will still be collected every fortnight.
A separate nappy collection service will be available upon registration.
Additional recycling containers are available to be requested free of charge

A trial of 4-weekly refuse collections will also be launched, as agreed by Conwy’s Cabinet earlier this year.  The 4-weekly trial will include all households who currently have Monday as their refuse collection day, with all other days moving to the 3-weekly schedule.




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 01, 2016, 05:06:55 pm
Llandudno Post Office closure bombshell announced.
Plans are being considered to shut the main Post Office in Llandudno .

Officials are mooting the idea of shutting the branch on Vaughan Street and moving it to the WH Smith store in Mostyn Street.

The group have gone out to consultation on the idea which describes the possible branch in WH Smith as a “modern new environment”. .....?   ?.

MORE    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-post-office-closure-bombshell-11414878 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-post-office-closure-bombshell-11414878)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on June 01, 2016, 05:23:13 pm
WH Smith as a “modern new environment”. .....?   ?.


That'll be the shop with filthy windows and scruffy interior...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 02, 2016, 08:16:46 am
Am I alone in seeing a gradual deterioration in Mail services generally since privatisation?
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Post by: bigbadhenry on June 02, 2016, 08:31:42 am
WH Smith as a “modern new environment”. .....?   ?.


That'll be the shop with filthy windows and scruffy interior...

If it moves to WHS, the service may improve. Gave up using the GPO as the service/queues was so bad.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 02, 2016, 09:13:01 am
Am I alone in seeing a gradual deterioration in Mail services generally since privatisation?
I haven't perceived any problems in terms of parcels, as I mail out a few each day. Several customers have contacted me to say their delivery has arrived the morning after I mail them, (and I despatch them at 4pm),... and I only pay for 2nd class service.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 02, 2016, 10:24:22 am
Am I alone in seeing a gradual deterioration in Mail services generally since privatisation?

I did a few weeks ago if you recall, but all seems fine again now.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on June 03, 2016, 09:38:56 pm
        I was on the pier this afternoon and I noticed the red "LEAVE" battlebus heading towards the tollgate where it performed a 45-point turn, (much to the dismay of the cars behind it), before finally parking at the pier gates. As I was walking back down the pier I passed Ian Duncan Smith (IDS), and another MP I recognised but couldn't put a name to by the funfair area on the pier with a load of young people waving "LEAVE!" placards. Loads of people were having "selfies" taken with him, I was surprised to see that he is a much taller person that he appears on TV.                     
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Post by: wrex on June 04, 2016, 07:41:07 am
Should have launched him over the rails
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Post by: Fester on June 04, 2016, 10:50:37 am
Should have launched him over the rails
  $good$ $good$ $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: BMD on June 04, 2016, 11:59:26 am
Nothing like political campaigning to ruin the seaside holiday vibe (except, perhaps, conference rooms, a la skip).

Fortunately, it didn't spoil my fun yesterday, sampling the offerings of the speciality cheese & choc-covered fruit kiosks, which I had't seen before.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 04, 2016, 01:23:29 pm
Bought a cheese a week or two back...Drunken Monk I think it was, really enjoyed it !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 05, 2016, 12:04:01 am
Nothing like political campaigning to ruin the seaside holiday vibe (except, perhaps, conference rooms, a la skip).

Fortunately, it didn't spoil my fun yesterday, sampling the offerings of the speciality cheese & choc-covered fruit kiosks, which I had't seen before.

The chocolate/fruit kebab kiosk,  (soon to start offering crepes too apparently),  it's 2 young guys, Jack and Lew, not sure it's a viable proposition given the rents that are facing, but they are trying really hard and I wish them every success.  $good$ ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 05, 2016, 02:58:30 pm
To say Conwy CBC is always crying the poor tale it must be mad. The place is packed and guess what? NO ONE IS MANNING THE GREAT ORME TOLL GATE ! That is the second time this week as there was no one there on Tuesday either. ! Imagine the revenue that they are losing. $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 05, 2016, 03:03:52 pm
They often transfer a parking warden, temporarily. Still, it does make you wonder...
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Post by: Gwynant on June 05, 2016, 04:45:56 pm
To say Conwy CBC is always crying the poor tale it must be mad. The place is packed and guess what? NO ONE IS MANNING THE GREAT ORME TOLL GATE ! That is the second time this week as there was no one there on Tuesday either. ! Imagine the revenue that they are losing. $angry$
>?>??
             I don't know if it has been fixed yet but the last three times that l walked through the car park at the summit of the Orme lthere was a piece of paper taped across the Pay and Display machine which had FREE PARKING  written on it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2016, 05:01:33 pm
Dame they could have used that lost revenue on the Happy Valley waterfall,never mind maybe next year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 05, 2016, 05:25:39 pm
From what my OH was told, the whole of Llandudno could be supplied with waterfalls. The footfall, or should I say 'wheels' going round the Orme lately has been phenomenal. Record takings!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on June 05, 2016, 05:51:22 pm
We were parked on top of the Orme in late March, week after easter and the car park ticket machine had a paper sign stuck to it saying machine broken, parking is free. It was busy then.
If it has been like that since then, they must have lost a fortune.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2016, 09:41:02 pm
Omg apparently the waterfall works,but not on the weekends,couldn't make it up
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 06, 2016, 12:15:31 am
Been round town tonight, perfect night because the so called posh bars like Snooze were busy, and the lower end bars like Town House were all thriving too.
Had a great night with local friends and visitors alike... burp!  ZXZ Z** ZXZ
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 06, 2016, 08:48:54 am
I'm due to visit Snooze soon, apparently it's good for a pint?  Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on June 06, 2016, 08:55:31 am
          I had a ride on my bike down the prom in Llandudno from the paddling pool to the cenotaph at around 0700 this morning and was appalled by the amount of litter everywhere. It's not the fault of the of the general public or the council lads on cleaning duties, as all the bins were all full to overflowing and the seagulls had opened all the plastic carrier bags that had been placed by them because there was no more room. There are enough bins about but they are all too small for the amount of litter generated, and also I have seen seagulls pulling bags etc out of overflowing bins. When I have visited other seaside resorts such as Torquay, Bournemouth, Douglas, Scarborough etc I have seen council workers out out at 0600 cleaning up, emptying (much larger) litter bins, raking the sands (admittedly not a big job here at the moment!) and generally making the place clean and ready for visitors. I also saw litter bins in Bournemouth which had solar-powered self-compacting motors on them which compressed the litter when it filled up and the local council lads said they were  a great success.
           I am also noticed that the council has provided fancy new flower boxes ( with the council crest on them) and then fixed them onto the existing seats in Mostyn Street area, thereby reducing the seating area, but also providing another place to put your litter when you can't be bothered to find a bin! Surely the cash could have been spent on providing more larger, more efficient bins in the town, with spring-loaded flaps on to counteract the seagull problem.
            The town has been absolutely jammed over the couple of weeks or so and everyone has been enjoying themselves and there is nowhere nicer and more beautiful than Llandudno, but the visitors always remember what they have seen and the litter problem needs addressing. 
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 06, 2016, 10:23:05 am
To say Conwy CBC is always crying the poor tale it must be mad. The place is packed and guess what? NO ONE IS MANNING THE GREAT ORME TOLL GATE ! That is the second time this week as there was no one there on Tuesday either. ! Imagine the revenue that they are losing. $angry$
>?>??
             I don't know if it has been fixed yet but the last three times that l walked through the car park at the summit of the Orme lthere was a piece of paper taped across the Pay and Display machine which had FREE PARKING  written on it.
It must be getting on for six months now that it has been like that - unbelievable!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on June 06, 2016, 05:42:46 pm
Perhaps if the council properly collected and ran income streams in a business-like manner, they could afford to empty more rubbish bins on the prom and not have to cut down on household collections.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 06, 2016, 06:17:10 pm
I was relating the fact that the toilets at Rhos are closed for 8 weeks to some friends this afternoon and lo and behold the toilets at Craig-y-Don by the paddling pool are also shut for refurbishment for 8 weeks ! :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 06, 2016, 07:46:04 pm
That's complete and utter bonkers Nemesis.    &shake&
I passed the paddling pool the other day and there were hundreds of people and children all enjoying the run of good weather.
There were no car spaces along the prom and many cars were having to park in the Craigside housing estate
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 06, 2016, 08:18:49 pm
Next thing will be the water quality of the paddling pool when all the poor desperate kiddies have had a wee in it !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 06, 2016, 09:50:10 pm
Several customers of mine in the last week have either written to, or emailed CCBC as to the appalling situation regarding the provision of toilets in Colwyn Bay and Llandudno.
It is a basic human need, and the situation is chronic and embarrassing
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2016, 08:32:19 am
I was relating the fact that the toilets at Rhos are closed for 8 weeks to some friends this afternoon and lo and behold the toilets at Craig-y-Don by the paddling pool are also shut for refurbishment for 8 weeks ! :o
You have to wonder who makes these decisions? Contractors have been working for the last month to get the Paddling Pool ready for the 1st June opening and now the pool is open, they have closed the toilets!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on June 07, 2016, 09:13:08 am
          As I had a bit of a moan on this thread yesterday about the state of the Prom and the litter problem it is only fair to come back on and report that at 0730 this morning all the litter bins had been emptied and the surrounding areas swept clean. There was even a council tractor parked on the slipway which could have been waiting for the sand-raking attachment to be fitted!
          Well done the council cleaning gangs! 
                                                                            &well&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 07, 2016, 10:58:40 am
And.....we have a flower bed for the Queen's birthday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2016, 12:40:55 pm
I noticed that the new 'No Parking' signs on the grass verge outside the Pier entrance are being completely ignored.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 07, 2016, 02:21:43 pm
I wonder whose responsibility it is to issue fixed penalty notices in that area?

The Civil Enforcement Officers or the deck chair attendants?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on June 07, 2016, 03:08:22 pm
I wonder whose responsibility it is to issue fixed penalty notices in that area?
The Civil Enforcement Officers or the deck chair attendants?

Neither and until the changes to the by-laws come in to effect later this summer, the same few people will continue to abuse the promenade and treat it as if it were their personal car park. What I can't understand is why Mostyn's haven't intervened and told the Pier owners to stop parking on their land.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 07, 2016, 03:47:06 pm
I noticed that the new 'No Parking' signs on the grass verge outside the Pier entrance are being completely ignored.

The van belonging to the pier was slap next to it !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 07, 2016, 05:23:20 pm
how many portable toilets have they got at the paddling pool
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 07, 2016, 08:00:39 pm
Will look for you if I go past.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 07, 2016, 08:15:16 pm
I went past earlier, there are no portable toilets at the paddling pool but the main toilets were open even though the signs said they were closing yesterday for 8 weeks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 07, 2016, 10:32:20 pm
I also drove past today and the main toilet appeared to be  open but it was raining so I didn't bother to stop and check
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on June 07, 2016, 11:42:51 pm
Anyone have a contact email for LL council, i'm going to let rip about the paddling pool loos (politely!) (ish!)  $angry$

They can't leave that area with no loo for July, there's no alternatives up there either (ie no good the council saying to use a cafe etc). It's often really busy up there and loads of people/families use the loo, and also for selfish reasons i'm moaning  as i spend a lot of time at that end of the beach, and often get caught short.. but this July i'll be 7 months pregnant and kind of need the loo every 5 minutes (!!!) so of all the times to get rid of the loos! It's bad enough the goose never reopened their loo either. I feel a rant coming on ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 08, 2016, 07:50:46 am
No point emailing Llandudno Town Council, the paddling pool and connected facilities are run by CCBC. I was told yesterday the loos will re-open in time for the summer holidays.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 08, 2016, 09:22:57 am
One toilet in the gents has been out of order for at least two months ( notice on the door). Why has it taken so long to start the job ,oh yes they have to have meeting to see if the can do the job 😡 Tom does this stupid council think people only go to the paddling pool in the six week school holiday .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on June 08, 2016, 09:57:15 am
Contractors have started work this morning on the Paddling Pool toilets.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 08, 2016, 11:07:27 am
No alternative toilets in place when I drove past this morning, unless they were hidden behind the café !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on June 08, 2016, 12:01:11 pm
No point emailing Llandudno Town Council, the paddling pool and connected facilities are run by CCBC. I was told yesterday the loos will re-open in time for the summer holidays.

I meant CCBC, i see the van coming round to lock then at 8. Thanks for the helpful answer btw by giving their contact info. I think you knew from my question that i wanted the info for whoever runs the loo.. but thought you'd give a pedantic answer ;)


And the "summer holidays" in LL terms means just for when the kids break up, ie last week of July. Not handy for the rest of the month is it.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 08, 2016, 01:53:28 pm
steven.teale@conwy.gov.uk

Try him !We have been in contact with him earlier this week.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 09, 2016, 01:08:54 pm
Latest news on the subject is that the work has been delayed until after the holidays.

Hope you feel better Pebble ! I certainly do ! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on June 14, 2016, 04:40:32 pm
Latest news on the subject is that the work has been delayed until after the holidays.

Hope you feel better Pebble ! I certainly do ! ;D

Great news if true! Only an idiot would have scheduled it for June and July..!  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 14, 2016, 05:25:21 pm
Latest news on the subject is that the work has been delayed until after the holidays.

Hope you feel better Pebble ! I certainly do ! ;D

Great news if true! Only an idiot would have scheduled it for June and July..!  $walesflag$

It might be the same idiot who arranged for the sand to be cleared from the West Shore cycle path during the Winter storms
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 18, 2016, 08:52:14 am
Just seen this on Facebook, sounds terrible!


I would like this photo to get back to the owner of the husky that attacked my dog on Wednesday 15th June outside Bon Marché in Llandudno

I have contacted the police who have said they can not prosecute but I would like her to see what her negligence caused (she had no control over her dog as she was talking to someone with her back to her dog on a loose lead)
Molly was taken to the vet straight away, I knew something was wrong due to the amount of blood, the vet said Molly was lucky that her abdomen wasn't punctured
I knelt on the pavement with Molly while passers by expressed their concerns at what they had witness and offered me tissues to mop up the blood. At no point did the owner of the husky make any attempt to see if Molly was ok and simply walked off

I really feel the owner should be made aware of what her dog did while under her "control"
I also want to tell residents and visitors to cross the road if they see a blonde woman with a husky for the sake of their own pets
So far the vet bill is over £250 but Molly needs 2 more appointments so we are expecting this to be in excess of £500 which I would pay ten times over for my pet but she shouldn't have had to go through this at over 12 years old

We ended our holiday early due to this irresponsible dog owner to give Molly the best recovery back at home
I can honestly say yesterday was the worst day of my life, there are no words to describe what it feels like to see your beloved pet tossed in the air in the jaws of something that could have potentially killed her

I don't want an apology from her, it would mean nothing now the damage is truly done
I want to make her and others aware of what negligence can cause and possible save another dog from going through the pain Molly is right now
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 18, 2016, 02:19:47 pm
That is disgusting, I am a dog owner and have been nearly all my life. If anyone's dog did that to my pet I would personally make them pay for their negligence. Poor Molly, I wish her well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 18, 2016, 05:47:36 pm
My sentiments exactly Nemesis, it's a shame that no one stopped the woman from walking away from the incident but I hope that someone does come forward to identifying the woman and the Husky.
I hope that Molly makes a full and speedy recovery
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 19, 2016, 01:09:43 pm
Sat on the beach this morning watching tri-athlon,kids playing everywhere and a big dogs log sat on the sand right opposite the two wardens,i told them and they moved it but what a shame they did not clean it first thing
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 19, 2016, 02:42:04 pm
Good for you pointing out the offending poop to those wardens but,  shame on them for having to be asked to remove it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 19, 2016, 02:43:36 pm
Not sure what the Triathlon is meant to bring to the town.
Having the disruption and road closures, coupled with about 1000 less car parking spaces is pretty much guaranteed to deter tourism, and it's hard enough for visitors as it is.
Still, look on the bright side, the weather is always appalling on Triathlon day, every year without fail, so hopefully they'll get the message and give it up soon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 19, 2016, 02:58:23 pm
You think it's cursed?  WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on June 20, 2016, 08:00:23 am
Not sure what the Triathlon is meant to bring to the town.
Having the disruption and road closures, coupled with about 1000 less car parking spaces is pretty much guaranteed to deter tourism, and it's hard enough for visitors as it is.
Still, look on the bright side, the weather is always appalling on Triathlon day, every year without fail, so hopefully they'll get the message and give it up soon.

I guess a lot of the pubs and shops lose out, but maybe the B&B and cafes gain.

Seems there something on the prom most weekend.

I just don't go into town on weekend anymore.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 23, 2016, 04:58:43 pm
The biggest let-down was the state of a well-known store (W.H. Smith) on the main street and how they think they would get away with presenting themselves like this is beyond me. The windows were covered in old sticky tape residue, ripped parts from old posters and current posters had fallen down. To be honest I didn't dare go inside for fear of being covered in cobwebs or stock falling on me.

OrmeMac I think they read your post, I passed today and the windows looked clean, no tape and new displays quite a difference .....did not go in, so not sure about the cobwebs...... ;)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 01, 2016, 03:07:16 pm
AN HISTORIC ship is to return to North Wales for twenty action packed days of sailing.

After a triumphant return to service last summer and her very successful short visit to Llandudno, MV Balmoral will return to the region next week.

The ship arrives at Llandudno Pier at 10.15am on Thursday, July 7 for one of the UK’s 'classic' day excursion voyages - a trip calling at Menai Bridge and Caernarfon before then cruising around the Isle of Anglesey, down the Menai Straights and under the two famous bridges before returning to Llandudno at 5.45pm.

The famous voyage will be repeated several times as well as shorter trips to view the Great Orme, Puffin Island and Point Lynas.
In addition the vessel will call regularly at Liverpool giving the opportunity for many hundreds of Liverpudlians to cruise down to Llandudno and spend an enjoyable day at the Queen of Welsh resorts.

To book tickets and for full details of all sailings go to TIC in Llandudno or to book online by visiting www.whitefunnel.co.uk (http://www.whitefunnel.co.uk)

Alternatively call 0117 325 6200.                                                                  refPioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 13, 2016, 05:39:48 pm
WORK to remove larger stones from Kiddies’ Corner on Llandudno’s North Shore is underway.

The area west of the short jetty will be riddled and the larger material removed beyond the end of the slipway as well as the lower beach where the donkey rides operate.

The sand next to the short jetty will be graded up to the line of the Cenotaph, to improve access and make it easier for the pleasure boats to operate and the area will then be surf-raked, with any excess material moved to the steps to help the donkeys get onto the beach.

Routine beach profiling will also take place between the two jetties on North Shore.

Alison Shields, of the Restore Our Beach campaign, said: “It is something Restore Our Beach had been asking for as an interim measure, and making the beach accessible, along with other members of the coastal forum.
“The beach couldn’t remain in the state it was, with sea defences taking over.”

Cllr Carol Marubbi, mayor of Llandudno, said: “Anything that tidies up that corner has to be a good thing. I’m 100 per cent behind it.”

The work, which began last week and is expected to take 10 days, will take place between 8am and 8pm – subject to tides - and is expected to be completed before the start of the school holidays.       refPioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 13, 2016, 06:01:50 pm
Stones to be removed from North Shore beach (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/164254/stones-removed-from-llandudno-s-north-shore.aspx).     



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 14, 2016, 09:07:56 am
Bit of a misleading headline if you ask me... not that we'd ever do that at the Post!  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 18, 2016, 02:23:17 am
Took a walk up the Gt Orme at midnight, and snapped these with the iPhone.
It really doesn't do the view justice at all, but it was a blissful view over West Shore across to Conwy mountain.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 18, 2016, 07:48:28 am
Nice - especially the second one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 18, 2016, 11:14:41 am
Great pics Fester  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on July 18, 2016, 01:21:58 pm
 Not a hundred percent sure --- but ----- the angle makes me suspicious. Possibly taken from my land. Or at least you walked over my land to get to it.
 Never mind, a crispy fiver or two in the honesty box on the way out will settle the matter and I will continue waving to you as I go past your house 😀😀😀mike
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 18, 2016, 03:02:35 pm
I was on the bench on Angelsea Road Mike, through the stile there.
It's at the top of the zig zag path.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 20, 2016, 01:30:22 pm
The M.V.Balmoral docking at Llandudno Pier head today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 20, 2016, 02:54:54 pm
Thanks for posting those photos Fester, they are really good and bring back nice memories for me of when The Isle of Man Steam packet Co had trips from the pier.      $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 20, 2016, 04:02:23 pm
Fester can I tweet one of those pictures please? Not for any other use, just my social media vanity  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 20, 2016, 05:12:02 pm
Fester can I tweet one of those pictures please? Not for any other use, just my social media vanity  :D

Feel free.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on July 20, 2016, 06:03:38 pm
looks like the ship is nearly empty.
If it carries on like that they wont be coming next year. Ship will not run on fresh air.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 20, 2016, 06:26:21 pm
Worry not Mull,  it was meant to come in empty, collect passengers and bring them back a few hours later.
Although, I have to say, there was by no means a huge queue for the Balmoral today, and you could pay on board.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 20, 2016, 06:28:50 pm
looks like the ship is nearly empty.
If it carries on like that they wont be coming next year. Ship will not run on fresh air.

Very true, I had not noticed the numbers, which brings up the question of advertising or lack of, I am usually up on these things, but as far as I am aware, no mention in the local press?

Quote
From Cambrian....The Balmoral is in the area for a few more days.  The sailing this afternoon was Menai Bridge - Llandudno - Cruise towards Rhyl and back as far as Conwy Bay then Llandudno and Menai Bridge.  The ship will be back in September but the sailings then will be extended as their south coast sailings have been curtailed due to the pier at Cowes being out of action. It looks as if she will be here for around 3 weeks so plenty of opportunities to sail.
Current sailing timetable available in the TIC at Llandudno Library or at the White Funnel website.

Timetable    http://www.whitefunnel.co.uk/c-9-llandudno.aspx (http://www.whitefunnel.co.uk/c-9-llandudno.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on July 20, 2016, 10:13:39 pm
There has been press reporting of the visit and there is a sign in the Library entrance saying bookings available in the TIC. 

Also the PS Waverley will be here on 30th August for one day only.  Coming from Liverpool and then cruise along east coast of Anglesey and back.  Leaves the Pier at 1430 back at 1815.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 22, 2016, 01:55:40 pm
Llandudno is property hotspot for UK seaside resorts.         $walesflag$     $good$

Llandudno is in the list of top 10 performing British seaside towns for house prices.
The Victorian resort is sixth on the table with a 7.6% increase over the past 12 months according to property website Zoopla.
Average prices now stand at £196,074.
The resort has thrived in recent years with shop vacancy rates falling and investment in many of the town's hotels.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-property-hotspot-uk-seaside-11647390 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-property-hotspot-uk-seaside-11647390)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on July 23, 2016, 06:46:36 pm
Absolute bedlam driving in town this afternoon. Along the prom there were four or five coaches nose to tail double parked. So as a result traffic was backing up on one side of the road almost the full length of the prom from St Georges almost to the paddling pool.

Pride of place however went to a white Merc mid afternoon parking on the tram tracks just above black gate. When the tram made it obvious they were parked in the wrong place they moved off round the corner and parked next to the traffic lights on the downhill side of Wyddfydd Road got out of the car and left it there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 26, 2016, 03:36:21 pm
Llandudno Toll House for sale £600,000K        :o



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/property-insider-fancy-owning-your-11640073 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/property-insider-fancy-owning-your-11640073)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on July 26, 2016, 04:29:35 pm
Llandudno Toll House for sale £600,000K        :o



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/property-insider-fancy-owning-your-11640073 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/property-insider-fancy-owning-your-11640073)


Stunning property but very over-priced.
That and the lighthouse were always on my 'Lottery List' when I used to do it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 26, 2016, 05:46:08 pm
Llandudno Toll House for sale £600,000K        :o



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/property-insider-fancy-owning-your-11640073 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/property-insider-fancy-owning-your-11640073)

Hang on a minute, that was for sale a few years ago, £400k, it never sold and was reduced to £275k at one point.
Also, typical Daily Post, can't even spell... it's MAGESTIC is it???   &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on July 27, 2016, 07:06:36 am
Can anyone explain what they have just achieved on the town beach,i just can;t see it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on July 27, 2016, 10:04:29 am
Veg shop on Trinity Ave (old computer repair shop) closed already, sign saying "shop to let" in the window.

Did that last six months? Location was never right.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 27, 2016, 10:25:05 am
Anyone know why the main street from Hooson's Corner to the far end, past the baths is covered in sand?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Jack on July 27, 2016, 12:01:17 pm
When I was coming into Llandudno this morning at half eight I followed a gritter lorry that seemed to be spreading sand/grit up and down Mostyn Street and also around Trinity Square! I though it slightly bizarre!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on July 27, 2016, 08:01:50 pm
I heard that the early turn road sweeping vehicle suffered a fracture on a hydraulic system resulting in oil deposited.  The sand would presumably be to absorb the oil.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 31, 2016, 05:28:52 pm
I've been meaning to relate this all week and was too busy to get around to it.

The Pier Pavilion site has had equipment on site all week, some kind of drilling machine and something that looked like a piling machine, plus another survey van.
Things are obviously progressing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 31, 2016, 05:42:00 pm
It has been a long wait but at last things are moving in the right direction.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on August 01, 2016, 04:49:41 pm
This photo does not give the right impression of Llandudno which was heaving with people, cars and coaches today!
Nice clouds though.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 02, 2016, 03:37:07 pm
I had a look at the Pier Pavilion site today and the work that Fester described was still going on.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 02, 2016, 05:17:56 pm
Hugo,  that's an extra couple of vehicles in addition to what I saw, these things don't come cheap I imagine,  so things must be advancing at a pace behind the scenes.
Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 02, 2016, 08:16:49 pm
Traffic is always bad at this time of the year in Llandudno but it doesn't help when you have thoughtless drivers and inconsiderate parkers.
I was by the Pier Pavilion site today and traffic was parked on both sides of the street as usual when  a great Orme tour bus was starting its route around the Marine Drive.   First of all there was a bill poster double parked on the Happy Valley side of the road and as the bus was passing the vehicle a commercial van kept coming towards the coach from the opposite direction with the result that no one could move.
I felt sorry for the coach driver who did nothing wrong and was pleased when the commercial van reluctantly had to reverse for the coach to get past.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 03, 2016, 11:48:29 pm
Here's another example of CCBC lunacy, from the Daily Post.
Oh, and please teach them how to spell.   The Isle of Mann for God's sake?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-happened-car-way-double-11701213 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-happened-car-way-double-11701213)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 04, 2016, 05:57:24 pm
At 2.50pm this afternoon, I witnessed two dolphins in the bay close to shore and opposite the Four Oaks Hotel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 04, 2016, 06:09:00 pm
You were very lucky to see such a wonderful sight Bri, were you able to take a photo of them?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 04, 2016, 07:45:36 pm
I did try, Hugo.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on August 04, 2016, 07:59:01 pm
I was out fishing on Monday when they came to play alongside the boat for about 1/2 hour ,about 20 in total mother and calf have video but can't download I need a computer neerd to help
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 04, 2016, 08:02:13 pm
Here's another example of CCBC lunacy, from the Daily Post.
Oh, and please teach them how to spell.   The Isle of Mann for God's sake?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-happened-car-way-double-11701213 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-happened-car-way-double-11701213)

What Highways have also failed to explain about double yellow line makings on that junction, is why the lines outside the front of the Empire (at both ends) do not conform to the Road Traffic Act. Their double yellow lines stop right on the apex. I wonder why?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on August 04, 2016, 09:24:14 pm
try this link
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8deqbru56uf677/video-1470156667%20%281%29.mp4?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8deqbru56uf677/video-1470156667%20%281%29.mp4?dl=0)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on August 04, 2016, 09:52:03 pm
Here's another example of CCBC lunacy, from the Daily Post.
Oh, and please teach them how to spell.   The Isle of Mann for God's sake?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-happened-car-way-double-11701213 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-happened-car-way-double-11701213)

What Highways have also failed to explain about double yellow line makings on that junction, is why the lines outside the front of the Empire (at both ends) do not conform to the Road Traffic Act. Their double yellow lines stop right on the apex. I wonder why?


Maybe that was the reason they extended the lines by a car length but could only partially do it as the space was occupied?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 05, 2016, 08:06:13 pm

Maybe that was the reason they extended the lines by a car length but could only partially do it as the space was occupied?

I wish that was the case SDQ, but not so. The yellow lines on one of Llandudno's most awkward and restricted corners, from Upper Mostyn Street into Ty Gwyn Road have failed to meet the requirements of the Road Traffic Act for at least the last 20 years, to my certain knowledge. Then just to add insult to injury overnight Parking is allowed on the single yellow line at the front of the Empire, from 17:00hrs until 10:00hrs the following morning.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 06, 2016, 01:54:26 am
I had a great time around the hostelries of Llandudno tonight, with Mrs F and her friends,
But.... WHY is the town so quiet?
I fear that some long-standing businesses are going to become casualties this Autumn/ winter.
Visitors flee the town soon after 4pm, and locals seem to stay at home or patronise bars and restaurants further afield.
Each to their own I suppose, but Llandudno is struggling at the very time they should be raking it in.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 06, 2016, 12:39:55 pm
Seems people prefer Conwy these days,i was in the Kings head last night,very quiet,Snowdon was ok,Fountains quiet.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 06, 2016, 06:50:10 pm
I would have expected Upper Mostyn Street to be busy once again and the youngsters moving on later to Broadway Boulevard.

Is that not happening?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 06, 2016, 10:12:36 pm
No Bri, come and take a look, you'll be shocked how quiet it is once the drinkers have left the outside of the bars, because the sun has gone.   Inside they are like the Marie Celeste!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 07, 2016, 07:50:14 am
It does seem a little odd this year.  We've noticed how quiet town's been in the morning on some days while on others it's heaving. Whether this means there are simply m,ore day trippers I don't know.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 07, 2016, 09:45:49 am
Quality of pubs in Llandudno now is not good enought,Conwy are close together and what the older drinker prefer,i for one do not go but thats me,we just need a few quality establishments to get the punters back
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 07, 2016, 11:33:42 am
It does seem a little odd this year.  We've noticed how quiet town's been in the morning on some days while on others it's heaving. Whether this means there are simply m,ore day trippers I don't know.

It's building on the same phenomenon I mentioned last year, the town is usually very quiet until 1pm when it becomes very congested indeed.  But soon after 4pm it is pretty much dead.
It is primarily more day trippers and a couple of bits of evidence support that.
The pier owner is advertising the Llandudno attraction at Tyr Prince, Prestatyn, Rhyl and Towyn and those caravanners  and holiday camp visitors are coming down in big numbers.

Some of the large hotels which should be booked solid from June to End August are reporting that they are experiencing about 25% cancellations.   
Large tour companies such as Saga and Great Rail who book large swathes of rooms are unable now to find sufficient numbers to make the coach trip viable.
So... it's a different demographic of people coming to the town, and at different times.
The town was eerily quiet after 7pm last night.  A Saturday!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 07, 2016, 04:33:11 pm
We where in the gresh,then Cottage then Snowdon back to the Gresh then Cooney an home x
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 08, 2016, 12:05:00 pm
A recent article in the Post might be of interest......

Have North Wales pubs still got pulling power?
The pub industry has suffered a tough few years amid high running costs and falling trade.
High taxes on beer, competition from supermarkets selling cheap alcohol and changing social habits have hurt the pub trade.

But it is not all doom and gloom and some shining exanples have shown that there is life left in the local when the offer is right.
The best pubs in North Wales according to The Good Pub Guide

One of those success stories has been the Albion pub in Conwy, opened with the backing of four local breweries.
Stuart Chapman-Edwards, landlord of the Albion in Conwy, said: “We were bold and stuck to our guns.
“We opened a place with no music, no Sky TV, no pool, stripping it back to the pubs people had been coming to for hundreds of years.

“People said it would not work and that drinkers wanted these things but we stuck with it and it has worked for us.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/north-wales-pubs-still-pulling-11699874 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/north-wales-pubs-still-pulling-11699874)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 08, 2016, 03:27:00 pm
The Albion is alright if you don't mind being in the solemn company of every dog owner and iPad owner in Conwy county.
It's very much one for the pseudo-intellectual, dog lover and real ale enthusiast.
Other than those folk, it's rubbish.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 09, 2016, 07:28:05 am
I still think there's a a gap in the market in Llandudno for a non-poncey pub that serves decent beer, doesn't fanny on with food and has two or three screens for sport...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 09, 2016, 12:47:42 pm
Great Orme Brewery is the best place to drink in Llandudno now.  $good$

The Albion is overrated - Fester has a point - It's ok for a quiet (very quiet) drink early on but I can't even begin to imagine how dull it is after 9pm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 09, 2016, 12:54:16 pm
It's ok for a quiet (very quiet) drink early on but I can't even begin to imagine how dull it is after 9pm.

Not sure what you are looking for in a pub. Personally good beer and an opportunity to speak and be heard isn't a bad thing. Although I haven't been that often The Albion ticks those boxes for me and it was very busy well past 9pm every time Iv'e been.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 09, 2016, 12:56:24 pm
I still think there's a a gap in the market in Llandudno for a non-poncey pub that serves decent beer, doesn't fanny on with food and has two or three screens for sport...
Agreed. Scratching my head wondering where to watch the match nowadays. I think food is an essential ingredient for many pubs but eating and watching sport doesn't go hand in hand.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 09, 2016, 01:52:31 pm
It's ok for a quiet (very quiet) drink early on but I can't even begin to imagine how dull it is after 9pm.

Not sure what you are looking for in a pub.

Entertainment, Sport, anyone else in the building under the age of 55. None of which the Albion has  ZXZ.
Don't get me wrong I think it's a good enough place in itself, I've enjoyed many a fine porter there i just don't think it should be held up like it does in the DP article as a template for what all pubs should be aspiring to, like it's some kind of Lord's prayer of the pub world.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 09, 2016, 02:24:25 pm

anyone else in the building under the age of 55.
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What do you imagine happens at 55 !? 
Must admit I'm afraid I fit in the over 55 category but last time I was there( The Albion) I was the only one in a group of 6 that was, the others being well under by a long way.
I certainly don't yearn for the past when you stood in some so called trendy pub ( no seats available) clutching your pint, looking at your mates but not speaking as the music was too loud.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 09, 2016, 03:00:34 pm

anyone else in the building under the age of 55.


I certainly don't yearn for the past when you stood in some so called trendy pub ( no seats available) clutching your pint, looking at your mates but not speaking as the music was too loud.
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To be fairt with my mates - it's probably best if I  can't hear them  L0L
Maybe it's the times I'm going to the Albion then but honestly whenever I've been (often it'll be tea time ish on a Monday) all I ever see is bored looking old people and dogs (can't tell if the dogs are bored or not)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 09, 2016, 03:02:13 pm
Also - the exact opposite reason is why I steer clear of the likes of the 147 - Hard to find anyone else in the building over the age of 21!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 10, 2016, 06:54:12 am
Pier pavilion site news.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/modern-building-replace-llandudnos-pier-11728007 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/modern-building-replace-llandudnos-pier-11728007)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 10, 2016, 10:04:42 am

anyone else in the building under the age of 55.


I certainly don't yearn for the past when you stood in some so called trendy pub ( no seats available) clutching your pint, looking at your mates but not speaking as the music was too loud.

To be fairt with my mates - it's probably best if I  can't hear them  L0L
Maybe it's the times I'm going to the Albion then but honestly whenever I've been (often it'll be tea time ish on a Monday) all I ever see is bored looking old people and dogs (can't tell if the dogs are bored or not)
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We are possibly the bored looking old people on a Monday night, we walk over from Deganwy in the summer on a Monday because it's possibly one of the few nights that you can get a seat - and as for the question as to what the Albion is like after 9pm, well it's heaving and little chance of a seat. In the past I've walked over at a weekend and haven't even been able to get through the door. Now, with other pubs in Conwy being refurbished and upping their game, there is a choice of acceptable venues with decent beer whereas a few years ago most pubs in Conwy were all vying to sell the cheapest lager to the town drunks.

Conwy's pubs have come a long way in the past couple of years and the given realisation to the idea that is that there is a decent profit to be made in a decent pub. The Albion is not the holy grail, but it is a great success and has changed the (grotty) pub scene in Conwy to one that is enjoying a revival to decency.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 10, 2016, 04:34:36 pm
The Albion is alright if you don't mind being in the solemn company of every dog owner and iPad owner in Conwy county.
It's very much one for the pseudo-intellectual, dog lover and real ale enthusiast.
Other than those folk, it's rubbish.

Well, apart from that, what have the Romans done for us...........
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 10, 2016, 04:46:56 pm
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 11, 2016, 08:37:13 am
Personally a big fan of the Albion for a pint and a bit of crack, if I'm meeting relatives in Conwy, best place to go for drink and catch up in my mind - while sampling local beers.

Nothing really like that in Llandudno. There's the Great Orme Brewery, which is decent but hardly convenient.

I'm just selfish, I basically want the Red Lion in Old Colwyn to move to Llandudno (my favourite boozer).

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 11, 2016, 11:06:31 am
Personally a big fan of the Albion for a pint and a bit of crack, if I'm meeting relatives in Conwy, best place to go for drink and catch up in my mind - while sampling local beers.

Nothing really like that in Llandudno. There's the Great Orme Brewery, which is decent but hardly convenient.

I'm just selfish, I basically want the Red Lion in Old Colwyn to move to Llandudno (my favourite boozer).

Tom, spot on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2016, 02:04:40 pm
Personally a big fan of the Albion for a pint and a bit of crack, if I'm meeting relatives in Conwy, best place to go for drink and catch up in my mind - while sampling local beers.

Nothing really like that in Llandudno. There's the Great Orme Brewery, which is decent but hardly convenient.

I'm just selfish, I basically want the Red Lion in Old Colwyn to move to Llandudno (my favourite boozer).

Red lion is brilliant - however it's brilliant because it's in Old Colwyn. If it was in Llandudno it would be rubbish!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 11, 2016, 03:05:06 pm
Aside from the beer ! ;D

The town centre is somewhat chaotic as the traffic crossing lights between Peacock's and the Sainsbury Store have been totally removed leaving temporary lights and a load of wet mess that everyone is wading about in. The traffic keeps building up, so I hope that the job will soon be finished !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on August 11, 2016, 08:52:36 pm
 I wonder why. I drive or walk across every day.  Seemed to me as driver and pedestrian to be working o k and the timings appeared o  k which is more than you can say about several other locations
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 12, 2016, 11:59:08 am
Just found out this is on the Prom today..............a bit late

INSPIRE DAYS
Due to popular demand, following our Inspire Days in 2015, Venue Cymru is proud to organise another set of summer arts activities around the County of Conwy. Inspire days, satellite events of our annual take pART weekend in January, are free for everyone to attend
Llandudno

Friday 12th August 11am - 4pm - Llandudno Promenade
Uncle Tacko's Imaginarium and Flea Circus (http://www.prom-prom.com/ (http://www.prom-prom.com/))

Cimera Circus Skills and Stilit Walkers (https://www.facebook.com/cimerahon/ (https://www.facebook.com/cimerahon/))

Dragon Drums - (http://www.dragondrums.co.uk (http://www.dragondrums.co.uk))

Environmental Artist - Tim Pugh: Craft Workshops

Magician

Welsh National Opera -CânSing Event
https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/inspire-2015.html (https://www.venuecymru.co.uk/inspire-2015.html)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 12, 2016, 05:02:02 pm

Red lion is brilliant - however it's brilliant because it's in Old Colwyn. If it was in Llandudno it would be rubbish!


Born2Run, I have given your post some thought, and whilst I agree with both your comments - in that the Red Lion is brilliant, and I doubt that it would work the same in Llandudno, however, I'm at a lost as to be able to explain why I don't think it would work, apart from the demographics of clientele. But I'd be rather interested to hear your rationale?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 17, 2016, 04:01:31 pm
Somewhat busy for a Wednesday afternoon !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 17, 2016, 10:54:32 pm
To be fair, Llandudno and it's pier were as busy as I've ever seen it, maybe more so, this last 2 days.
It does usually seem to be focused on the noon til 4pm time frame, but this week I can't close my shop before 7.30pm.   
It's nice to see, but I'm too old to be working 9 hours a day, 7 days a week!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 18, 2016, 09:32:29 am
I am told Tesco are looking at ground floor tenancy of Tudno Castle with plans to open a Tesco Extra/Express there. Money from that will then be used to renovate rest of the building. Not had it confirmed... Colleagues looking into it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 18, 2016, 11:25:56 am
To be fair, Llandudno and it's pier were as busy as I've ever seen it, maybe more so, this last 2 days.
It does usually seem to be focused on the noon til 4pm time frame, but this week I can't close my shop before 7.30pm.   
It's nice to see, but I'm too old to be working 9 hours a day, 7 days a week!
OMG....If you are too old what am I ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on August 18, 2016, 05:44:34 pm
So there has been no real delay,just no funding for project,unbelievable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 21, 2016, 02:41:20 pm
Air Sea Rescue exercises in Llandudno Bay this afternoon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 26, 2016, 08:36:45 am
I was amazed to see that CCBC had chosen the busiest week of the year to get contractors to paint the Prom Shelters and seats...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 26, 2016, 09:34:08 am
Visitors should be spending money in the shops, not sitting on the Prom enjoying themselves !!!
 8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 26, 2016, 10:57:30 am
Bit surprised CCBC haven't fitted turnstiles to the shelter, yet...  :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 26, 2016, 12:07:46 pm
They painted them last year 😂 Two years ago they had funding for three new shelters wonder where this money is .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 26, 2016, 01:08:08 pm
They spent it on tins of paint!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 26, 2016, 04:21:58 pm
I was amazed to see that CCBC had chosen the busiest week of the year to get contractors to paint the Prom Shelters and seats...

Closing the public toilets too and  closing the Prom in Colwyn Bay.   At least they are consistent in their decision making
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 26, 2016, 05:03:21 pm
Special Report: The development shadow looming large over Conwy's Bodafon fields and other greenfield sites

Residents and community leaders demand answers over picturesque Llandudno site, while pressure is greater than ever on other green wedges around county because of government housing targets.

 More   http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/greenbelt-development-mostyn-bodafon-conwy-11806165 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/greenbelt-development-mostyn-bodafon-conwy-11806165)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 26, 2016, 07:40:01 pm
WHo says we don't do investigative pieces anymore? Great work by my colleague Mari
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 27, 2016, 09:39:02 am
WHo says we don't do investigative pieces anymore? Great work by my colleague Mari

Hardly 'investigative', the controversy over the threat of development of these fields has been simmering for years; local Councillors have been shouting about this and others issues of the LDP on a regular basis. The furore that the proposed development at Pentywyn Road has caused has highlighted local concerns, but there's nothing in the article that could be termed 'investigative', it's simply reporting known issues.

Finding out what's happening to the Pier Pavilion site would be termed 'investigative'.....   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on August 27, 2016, 10:04:34 am
Yes, and .....

What's happening to the Tudno Castle, (someone mentioned this previously)

Why there has been no start on the new police station in Oxford Road

etc
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2016, 12:04:28 pm
Although it is common knowledge that Mostyn Estates want to build houses on Bodafon fields, it was still interesting to read that article.
There are things going on behind the scenes and I don't think Mostyn Estates will ever give up on the idea of developing the land into a housing estate.

I was reading an article about the new Lifeboat Station in Llandudno which is adjacent to the fields and read that Mostyn Estates "made available the land" for the new Lifeboat house to be built.   Does anyone know if this land was given to the RNLI  or did the RNLI pay Mostyn Estates for the lease? 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 29, 2016, 12:03:33 pm

Why there has been no start on the new police station in Oxford Road


I agree.

It would also have been helpful for there to have been directions on the hoarding informing everyone where the temporary police station is.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 29, 2016, 08:09:16 pm
Bank Holiday Monday. Great Orme packed............................no one manning the toll gate. AGAIN. Think of all that lost revenue !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 30, 2016, 11:17:07 am
There's a drilling rig on the Tudno Castle site, doing a ground survey this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 30, 2016, 11:33:18 am
Bank Holiday Monday. Great Orme packed............................no one manning the toll gate. AGAIN. Think of all that lost revenue !

Simon was on the toll gate yesterday from 0900 to 1515, when he closes down to count up, then the 1600 chap turned up, so there was only a 45 min period when it wasn't manned.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 30, 2016, 03:05:26 pm
Wow ! Trust my OH and 1/2 the town to queue up and pass through in that 45 mins !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 30, 2016, 03:55:28 pm
Word gets around quickly :-))
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 30, 2016, 06:01:49 pm
Hundreds of properties in Llandudno have been hit by a huge power cut.

Around 400 properties in the town , including stores on Mostyn Street, lost power just before 3pm.
Shops including Greggs, Edinburgh Woollen Mill, Trespass, Shoe Zone and Pound Bakery are all understood to have been forced to shut for the day.

Signs have been put in the windows of many of the affected stores stating they have been unable to remain open due to the power problems.

The Great Orme Tramway is also thought to have been affected, with staff tweeting that it has closed for the day due to “technical issues”.
A tweet said: “Due to technical issues, the Tramway will be closed for the remainder of the day. We are sorry for any inconvenience.”

Engineers from Scottish Power are on the scene trying to fix the problem, which has been caused by an underground cable fault.
Less than 100 properties remain without power.
A Scottish Power spokeswoman said: “A power cut was reported in the LL30 area of Llandudno just before 3pm today.
“It has been caused by an underground cable fault and affected 400 properties originally.
“Our engineers are on site trying to fix the problem and many customers have had power restored.

“We are working on the problem and hope to have it resolved as soon as possible. We apologise for any inconvenience.”   ref DP
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 30, 2016, 06:05:03 pm
The power cut was yesterday - Bank Holiday Monday - and it took out several of the seafront hotels. Scottish Power were ferrying little gennies to one and all.  Has it happened again today?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 30, 2016, 06:17:41 pm
The power cut was yesterday - Bank Holiday Monday - and it took out several of the seafront hotels. Scottish Power were ferrying little gennies to one and all.  Has it happened again today?

Ian, The DP report is timed at 17:00, 30 AUG 2016 UPDATED 17:18, 30 AUG 2016 so looks like today..........unless they are still getting over their long weekend.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hundreds-llandudno-properties-hit-huge-11820258 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hundreds-llandudno-properties-hit-huge-11820258)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 30, 2016, 06:54:21 pm
Yes;  and I know there was a pretty significant cut yesterday, so it looks as though there's some sort of ongoing issue.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on August 30, 2016, 09:17:04 pm
Came back on about 16:45 30/08/16 best part of 2 hours in peace and quiet!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 02, 2016, 02:38:57 pm
Crappy picture, had to zoom right in, but here are a pod of dolphins just off Llandudno pier today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 05, 2016, 08:41:30 am
Anyone else hear that massive bang at about 10.15 pm last night, somewhere in the direction of the North Shore? It was loud enough for people to be hanging out of windows trying to see what had happened.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 05, 2016, 10:31:04 am
Anyone else hear that massive bang at about 10.15 pm last night, somewhere in the direction of the North Shore? It was loud enough for people to be hanging out of windows trying to see what had happened.
I heard the helicopter last, maybe the bang was part of this .........
Coastguard report............
We were paged at 20:45 to reports of a person in the water off the Little Orme after a member of the public saw flashing lights and heard cries for help.
Rescue 936 were diverted from their training mission to assist and Llandudno Lifeboat Crew were requested to launch.
Arriving on scene we could see the flashing lights but were unable to see what it was due to the darkness. Llandudno ILB pulled up alongside it and confirmed it was in fact a small vessel which had come into difficulties despite being adequately prepared.
Rescue 936 was stood down and returned to its training mission.
We met the casualty vessel at the sailing club slipway and ensured that safety advice was given and that no medical attention was required. We returned the casualty to his vehicle in order for him to recover the vessel. No further action was required and we returned to station.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 05, 2016, 11:10:31 am
We had also had the helicopter passing over us, but that was much earlier, so I don't know what was going on. The bang must have been very loud as we were walking with the dog next to the Grand Ash and people in the flats opposite were trying to see what was happening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: majormellons on September 05, 2016, 07:10:03 pm
We had also had the helicopter passing over us, but that was much earlier, so I don't know what was going on. The bang must have been very loud as we were walking with the dog next to the Grand Ash and people in the flats opposite were trying to see what was happening.

I read on Fb last night that a bus engine had blown up, and that was the 'bang'....seems feasible.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2016, 01:58:48 pm
I'm at work... but 20 yards away these guys are doing this!
I'm not jealous at all, honest!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 06, 2016, 08:02:46 pm
Personally I detest Jet Skis and would prefer to see them banned from Llandudno Bay altogether. They bring absolutely nothing to the town except noise and harassment of the wildlife.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on September 06, 2016, 08:59:49 pm
Personally I detest Jet Skis and would prefer to see them banned from Llandudno Bay altogether. They bring absolutely nothing to the town except noise and harassment of the wildlife.

Dave, I could not agree with you more.

However, personally, I would prefer to use a 7.62 LMG on the end of the pier to deal with jet skis.
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Post by: Fester on September 06, 2016, 11:40:51 pm
I think they are fantastic, and I would love to try one again.... seeing as the only time I did go on one in Mexico I almost died.
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Post by: born2run on September 07, 2016, 09:08:01 am
I think they are fantastic, and I would love to try one again.... seeing as the only time I did go on one in Mexico I almost died.

second time lucky!  $good$
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Post by: born2run on September 07, 2016, 09:08:52 am
You reminded me of this  _))*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9LrASibTA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9LrASibTA)
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Post by: BMD on September 07, 2016, 06:02:41 pm
Of course, Colwyn Bay is now the jet ski capital of North Wales, surpassing Llandudno for once.
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Post by: born2run on September 08, 2016, 09:02:41 am
Of course, Colwyn Bay is now the jet ski capital of North Wales, surpassing Llandudno for once.

I'm guessing the "for once" is ironic?

Colwyn Bay

Lionel Ritchie/Elton John calibre of artist every year
Large purpose built modern sports and entertainment staduim
BBC Proms in the park
One of the best rugby teams in Wales
40s Festival
Beach with WiFi and ..... sand!
The much maligned (on here) Watersports and resturant complex


Llandudno

The Extravaganza

 $good$
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Post by: Tom Davidson on September 08, 2016, 01:03:33 pm
Colwyn Bay needs it though.

I live in Llandudno and consider myself very lucky to do. In my opinion it's a more desirable place to live and has booming tourism industry.

Conwy Council are doing their best (for the most part) to help Colwyn Bay become an events hub. They need the investment as the reputation of the town has been so low for so long.
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Post by: BMD on September 08, 2016, 02:01:48 pm
Colwyn Bay needs it though.

I live in Llandudno and consider myself very lucky to do. In my opinion it's a more desirable place to live and has booming tourism industry.

Conwy Council are doing their best (for the most part) to help Colwyn Bay become an events hub. They need the investment as the reputation of the town has been so low for so long.

Aside from all else, Llandudno has basic town-planning more in its favour. And Colwyn Bay (the town) is separated from the prom by the A55 and the rail embankment. Of course, there's access to the beach, but it doesn't really fit together like Llandudno. Porth Eirias and the events over at Eirias Park don't really help in this respect. An "events hub" doesn't make a nice town, unfortunately. As a result, Colwyn Bay feels distinctly run down, unlike Llandudno, even though both towns have their share of dilapidated and vacant premises. In Colwyn Bay the run-down buildings seem more prominent (eg the Imperial Hotel, and even the in-use Prince Madoc pub, with the letters always missing from its sign, etc), so it comes across as downmarket and a tad depressing. It's a shame, because if you raise your eyes above shop-front level, those Victorian buildings are things of beauty.

Try as they might, I don't think the council has the expertise or vision to tackle this basic problem with Colwyn Bay. The things they've tried are more or less isolated, and don't make much difference to the overall "feel" of the town. I wish they'd consult someone who does have the vision and expertise at that overall town-planning level. And maybe do some serious opinion-surveys of people who live in the area, rather than the dubious after-the-event "public consultations", which are typically PR for what they've already decided.
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Post by: born2run on September 08, 2016, 02:07:34 pm
Colwyn Bay needs it though.

I live in Llandudno and consider myself very lucky to do. In my opinion it's a more desirable place to live and has booming tourism industry.

Conwy Council are doing their best (for the most part) to help Colwyn Bay become an events hub. They need the investment as the reputation of the town has been so low for so long.

But what about the things Llandudno used to have and has no more? Never to be replaced.

Cinema
Fairground
Donkey Derby
10 Pin Bowling
The wreck on the pier (which was a dungeon when I was young)
The Arcadia Theatre
Alex Monroe and the happy valley and pier shows etc

These are just things I can remember, I bet there is a lot more.
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Post by: Hugo on September 08, 2016, 02:53:57 pm
And a skating rink by the Arcadia
I can also remember steps on the West Shore too
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Post by: mull on September 08, 2016, 06:44:47 pm
Those 2 photos of the West Shore.
How could (they ?)allow that to happen, it really has gone downhill. So many happy memories of hours spent there as a boy(1950s) and with my own boys in the 1970s.
Really making me feel old now!    :rage:
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Post by: Tom Davidson on September 09, 2016, 07:03:07 am
I agree about Colwyn Bay generally feeling like a more run down place. Although I don't live there I do get the impression it's on the rise, albeit very slowly. Still lots of empty shops on the high street and I don't think pedestrianisation of station road has worked (although I've never known it before tbh). There's still some good little businesses there though. I think The Station in the heart of the town has really helped.

Anyway, my point is, Llandudno people (Llandudnoians?) shouldn't get jealous about money spent on Colwyn Bay as I think it's just a case of the Bay needing the money more. That said, building a huge sandy beach at one seaside location while dumping a load of stone on another (at almost the same time) was an absolutely idiotic move by the council.
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Post by: Dave on September 09, 2016, 08:48:58 am
I'm not sure this thread is the one to discuss Colwyn Bay but.....
I don't think many living in Llandudno begrudge the spend in the Bay, perhaps there is envy from the opposite direction. There's no doubt whereas Llandudno tends to get private investment, the Bay doesn't fair nearly as well.
Why did Colwyn Bay end up the way it did? It wasn't really the Express Way as many like to blame. The beach was already cut off by the railway so there were not too many access points from the town anyway. OK, the town centre access might have been key to shopping areas but the parking wasn't there until the now Morrisons car park was built.
What really killed off the Bay was the rise of the foreign package holiday during the late 60's. This was followed up by a glut of empty B&B properties being available for sale at bargain prices. One particular Estate Agent saw the opportunity to re-home DHSS recipients from the likes of Liverpool,Manchester and  Birmingham and placed adverts in their local press offering to pay their removal fees to relocate by the sea. An offer too good to be true. The only proviso was that the rent money was paid direct to him I believe.
The Bay's decline was pretty rapid, particularly around the centre. Those who came to live in the area must have known that job opportunities were few, most were probably relieved.
Trying to reclaim the town will be a long slow process and in a way it's sad that to do so you probably have to squeeze the less affluent out of their current living accommodation. It's begun with the redevelopment of the area around the Toad Hall, that's private investment but it's been encouraged by the council spend on the seafront.
Rhos Point has been in need of urgent attention and spend for some time but the council haven't prioritised that from what I can see, basically because the area is surrounded by private housing and a decent shopping community.
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Post by: DaveR on September 09, 2016, 08:49:08 am
I've said for a long time that Colwyn Bay has too many small empty shops that will never be filled. A programme of 'condensing' the town centre down to a more central area based around Station/Penrhyn Roads, would result in all the shops in that area being occupied and a far more vibrant feel to the place. Shops/Buildings in the outlying parts of the town centre could be demolished and rebuilt as housing or left as additional green space.
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Post by: DaveR on September 09, 2016, 08:52:22 am
Rhos Point has been in need of urgent attention and spend for some time but the council haven't prioritised that from what I can see, basically because the area is surrounded by private housing and a decent shopping community.
Absolutely right..and the question should be asked - why does CCBC need to own Rhos Point at all? Sell it off as a development site, with the proviso that the development must be completed within 5 years. I know from personal experience that local catering operators were clamouring to get their hands on the site when it first closed down several years ago.
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Post by: Bosun on September 09, 2016, 09:23:15 am
I've said for a long time that Colwyn Bay has too many small empty shops that will never be filled. A programme of 'condensing' the town centre down to a more central area based around Station/Penrhyn Roads, would result in all the shops in that area being occupied and a far more vibrant feel to the place. Shops/Buildings in the outlying parts of the town centre could be demolished and rebuilt as housing or left as additional green space.

Fantasy.
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Post by: Tom Davidson on September 09, 2016, 09:46:46 am
Common knowledge now Dylans interested in Rhos point, but I feel we're digressing away from "What's Llandudno Like Right Now?"
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Post by: DaveR on September 13, 2016, 12:22:59 pm
I've said for a long time that Colwyn Bay has too many small empty shops that will never be filled. A programme of 'condensing' the town centre down to a more central area based around Station/Penrhyn Roads, would result in all the shops in that area being occupied and a far more vibrant feel to the place. Shops/Buildings in the outlying parts of the town centre could be demolished and rebuilt as housing or left as additional green space.

Fantasy.
...except its already happening? For example. the row of empty shops at 116 - 120 Abergele Road is to be demolished and rebuilt as housing.
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Post by: born2run on September 13, 2016, 01:02:47 pm
The Bay's shopping ability is and always has been limited. There is no reason for anyone outside of the town to travel there for shops, they have nothing that Llandudno can't offer. If they had a Primark or a  TK Maxx or a Dunelm mill things would have been different.

They have the market but that is not as busy as it was and has lost its appeal over recent years and has been steadily declining until eventually it will be gone, market traders know they'll get more business up at Tir Prince or the nearby car boot, years ago there was the Car Boot underneath what is now Bay View and that was a crowd puller, they should bring something like that back and win back some of the weekend trade that visits Rhyl or Tir Prince.
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Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2016, 01:51:26 pm
OK what am I missing, I am sitting enjoying the sun, and a large yellow truck has just gone past, lights blazing , flashers flashing........................a snow plough and gritter..(not gritting)......... &shake& &shake& &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 14, 2016, 02:09:43 pm
I saw that a couple of times this morning in Llandudno.

I also noticed it did not have CCBC on its sides.



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Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2016, 02:58:45 pm
I saw that a couple of times this morning in Llandudno.
I also noticed it did not have CCBC on its sides.

Maybe CCBC are thinking of buying one, a demo run?  after all they have plenty of money to spare...., :twoface:
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 14, 2016, 03:41:42 pm
Perhaps they are in a position to negotiate a good purchase price on the hottest day of the year in Llandudno.  D)
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Post by: mull on September 14, 2016, 06:08:32 pm
Happens every year.
My youngest son works for Amey who have the contract for Hampshire and Berkshire has been driving snow ploughs down there for the past 2 days.
Checking all the equipment is in working order and ready to go, also revising gritting routes.

Soon be October and stand by for an early cold snap.

Who would be first to complain if they were not ready for it ?
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Post by: Cambrian on September 16, 2016, 01:02:50 pm
MV Balmoral

Despite valiant efforts by the ship's crew and the lads at the landing stage, conditions meant the Balmoral could not berth at Llandudno Pier today, so the sailings for the rest of the day have been cancelled.

The 1300 sailing on Saturday 17th round Puffin Island and down Menai Strait should go ahead as planned. (back 1600)

Other sailings are:

Sunday 18th - 1400 cruise towards Point Lynas (back 1630)

Monday 19th - 1430 cruise to Menai Bridge (back 1730)

Tuesday 20th - 1030 cruise round Anglesey via Menai Bridge and Caernarfon.  (Last North Wales sailing of the season) (back 1800)

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Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2016, 03:08:59 pm
Thanks for posting that Cambrian, I went to Llandudno today to have a look at the boat.  It was a lovely day for the sailing and the town looked very busy too.
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Post by: rhuddlan on September 17, 2016, 04:39:03 pm
Lovely pics!
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Post by: SteveH on September 17, 2016, 05:51:12 pm
Great photos and good to see plenty of passengers on board ......... $good$ $good$
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2016, 06:08:04 pm
That is good to hear.

I counted only 31 passengers disembarking from Liverpool on Wednesday at 1pm.
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Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2016, 06:10:40 pm
This is another photo of the boat just as it was going out of sight around the headland.
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Post by: Cambrian on September 17, 2016, 06:49:14 pm
Yes, Hugo great pictures.

Today, around 100 passengers from Liverpool disembarked and 200 from Llandudno boarded. I would estimate around 200 Liverpool passengers stayed aboard for the sail down the strait as far as Menai Bridge.  Apparently Captain Howie's grandparents joined at Llandudno.

Bri - The Wednesday sailing was not from Liverpool.  The Balmoral was returning from a cruise as far as Abergele/Rhyl.  The passengers you saw coming off at 1300 would have joined at Llandudno at 1115 and some who got on at Menai Bridge at 0945.

If anyone is thinking of the Anglesey trip on Tuesday I hear it is being well subscribed so it would be advisable to book on line.
www.whitefunnel.co.uk (http://www.whitefunnel.co.uk)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2016, 07:10:46 pm
My apologies, Cambrian.

It was an easy mistake to make with the vessel arriving from that direction at lunchtime.
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Post by: hollins on September 17, 2016, 07:47:47 pm
Fab photos Hugo.
Where were you standing to get the great almost overhead shot of the pier in the first photo?
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Post by: Fester on September 17, 2016, 08:51:56 pm
Fab photos Hugo.
Where were you standing to get the great almost overhead shot of the pier in the first photo?

The path in front of the cable car station I'm thinking?   Or Camera Obscura , just a few yards away.
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Post by: spotty dog on September 17, 2016, 08:59:01 pm
Balmoral on Wednesday very few on board, I am told car parking  for the day is a problem but wonderful to see her again this year
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Post by: spotty dog on September 17, 2016, 09:12:56 pm
sorry wrong photo
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Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2016, 11:03:26 pm
Fab photos Hugo.
Where were you standing to get the great almost overhead shot of the pier in the first photo?

On the hill next to the cable car
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Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2016, 09:45:22 am
The new Lifeboat Station is coming along nicely:
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Post by: SteveH on September 19, 2016, 12:16:01 pm
The biggest let-down was the state of a well-known store on the main street( WHSmith )and how they think they would get away with presenting themselves like this is beyond me. The windows were covered in old sticky tape residue, ripped parts from old posters and current posters had fallen down. To be honest I didn't dare go inside for fear of being covered in cobwebs or stock falling on me. It used to be the case that senior management visited stores on a regular basis to check how everything was being run and presented to the public. I guess that doesn't happen any more and the shop is just waiting to be closed down.

I think they must have read your comments O.M. They have done an excellent job on the exterior of the building and renovating the Victorian canopy, a credit to Llandudno,                (however the interior is just the same and the window displays are unexciting.) 
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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 20, 2016, 06:31:28 pm
There was a film crew by the jetty this afternoon involving a speedboat, three large rubber rings and three male actors.

I asked one of the cameramen what it was all about and he informed me they were making an advert for Remington razors.

Fortunately, the sun was shining so Llandudno will eventually benefit.

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Post by: Bri Roberts on September 28, 2016, 04:35:20 pm
Why there has been no start on the new police station in Oxford Road

....................................... $good$

I am pleased to report Dawnus are now onsite.
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Post by: Tom Davidson on September 29, 2016, 02:45:17 pm
Very, very concerning news regarding Llandudno Pier - http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paedophile-llandudno-pier-jamie-campbell-11954392 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paedophile-llandudno-pier-jamie-campbell-11954392)
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Post by: Meleri on September 29, 2016, 03:59:28 pm
It beggars belief that staff at Llandudno Pier took this person on bearing in mind all the young children that visit the Pier. Surely they must have known he had offended in 2010 while working at another amusement arcade, as I'm sure offenders have to declare their offences when applying for a job. Don't they have Probation Officers monitoring these people anymore.
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Post by: SteveH on October 05, 2016, 10:31:44 am
Cyclists are to be officially allowed on Llandudno Promenade on a permanent basis.

Campaigners have fought hard for many years to allow cyclists on the promenade, while others opposed the idea believing it could cause accidents, especially during the busy summer months.

However, after a 12-month trial in 2013 Conwy County Council has concluded cyclists posed no threat to walkers enjoying a stroll along the seafront.

But to legally allow cycling along the promenade a local bylaw dating from 1988 which bans bicycles and tricycles on the promenade will now have to be amended. The local authority anticipates this will take until the New Year.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-you-say-cyclists-being-11979340 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-you-say-cyclists-being-11979340)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 05, 2016, 12:10:57 pm
In the interest of safety, I believe cyclists should be required to dismount on the promenade near the entrance to the pier during the summer months.

Does anybody agree with me?
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Post by: PhilMick on October 05, 2016, 01:13:34 pm
HI Bri - yes I agree.

Cyclists and pedestrians don't mix anywhere.

I sat on he prom one day in August and I was delighted to see so many people walking on the prom.

As you suggest, prohibit cycling, perhaps from the pier end to somewhere much safer over toward Craig y Don end from Easter until the end of half term in October.

Llandudno's prom is what makes it different.
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Post by: DaveR on October 05, 2016, 01:41:18 pm
I was initially sceptical about allowing cycling on the Prom but, with the exception of the odd idiot going far too fast, it seems to work pretty well.
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Post by: SteveH on October 05, 2016, 02:30:26 pm
In the interest of safety, I believe cyclists should be required to dismount on the promenade near the entrance to the pier during the summer months.
Does anybody agree with me?

I agree with every comment above, with speed being the biggest issue and how to control it........  &shake&
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Post by: Bosun on October 05, 2016, 08:41:47 pm
As someone who both walks the prom and cycles it, I can assure you that as always, there are two sides to every story. For every speeding idiot on a bike, there are double the number of walkers who, having seen you, very deliberately step out in front of your path at the last moment. What point they are trying to prove, I have no idea. Other walkers can get very abusive indeed - even when you are nowhere near them.

Reckless and belligerent mobility scooter riders, now that's an issue........
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Post by: Tom Davidson on October 06, 2016, 09:08:31 am

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Reckless and belligerent mobility scooter riders

Yeah sorry about that
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Post by: Bosun on October 06, 2016, 09:41:02 am

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Reckless and belligerent mobility scooter riders

Yeah sorry about that

You hooligan.
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Post by: SteveH on October 06, 2016, 09:59:22 am
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Reckless and belligerent mobility scooter riders
Yeah sorry about that
You hooligan.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 06, 2016, 10:14:52 am
I wonder if electrically propelled bicycles will continue to be used?

If so, will the next stage be mechanically propelled mopeds under 50cc?
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Post by: Bosun on October 06, 2016, 10:20:22 am
I wonder if electrically propelled bicycles will continue to be used?

If so, will the next stage be mechanically propelled mopeds under 50cc?

Yes, and then go-karts, motorised skateboards and jet-bikes, then autogyros and helicopters landing on the prom..... I've already seen the Council workmen measuring up for a runway....
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Post by: born2run on October 06, 2016, 12:23:29 pm
http://www.ultimateescape.co.uk/ (http://www.ultimateescape.co.uk/)

Not seen much about this reported - nice to have something for the under 80s in Llandudno, one in Abergele has just opened as well.
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Post by: Ian on October 06, 2016, 12:48:52 pm
As featured in series 7 of The Big Bang Theory.
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Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2016, 11:00:07 am
And this years Oscar nomination goes to Mari Jones reporter for the Daily Post............... ;)

The moment a seagull mugs Daily Post reporter for her ice cream
This is a moment a Daily Post reporter was attacked by a flock of seagulls - for her ice cream!
Mari Jones was enjoying a vanilla ice cream in Llandudno when a pesky seagull grabbed it out of her hand.
It wasn’t long before the sky was full of seagulls, all trying to get a lick of the ice cream.

Full article with video of the award winning performance and photos with comments...........
 http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/moment-seagull-mugs-daily-post-11996088 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/moment-seagull-mugs-daily-post-11996088)
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Post by: Hugo on October 08, 2016, 11:22:18 am
And this years Oscar nomination goes to Mari Jones reporter for the Daily Post............... ;)

 http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/moment-seagull-mugs-daily-post-11996088 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/moment-seagull-mugs-daily-post-11996088)

Mari's cornet was certainly at arm's length and she looked a bit nervous posing for the inevitable.     I wasn't so lucky when the little b****r  pinched mine just as I was about to eat it!
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Post by: Tom Davidson on October 08, 2016, 01:15:23 pm
To be fair to Mari, she holds out the ice cream because she doesn't want the birds attacking her face.
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Post by: Meleri on October 08, 2016, 02:09:44 pm
You are such a Gentleman Tom for protecting Mari, but it looks very staged ;) Maybe the members of the Conwy Council Task & Finish Group could give her one of their leaflets to discourage her from feeding the seagulls. &shake&
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Post by: Tom Davidson on October 08, 2016, 03:32:52 pm
The reason it looks staged is because it was, sort of. As far as I'm aware, Mari had noticed just how much abuse other ice-cream eaters were getting from the gulls and wanted to find out for herself what it was like... Not sure she deserves some of the abuse she's been getting on Facebook. Obviously not Pulitzer Prize winning but they can't all be. 
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Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2016, 03:59:55 pm
The reason it looks staged is because it was, sort of. As far as I'm aware, Mari had noticed just how much abuse other ice-cream eaters were getting from the gulls and wanted to find out for herself what it was like. 

Then I would suggest, that was the story, an experiment on behalf of those being "abused", and not "seagull mugs Daily Post reporter".
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Post by: Hugo on October 08, 2016, 04:02:58 pm
It's very good that Mari was able to highlight a growing problem in the town but she's a good reporter and should stick to her day job.
I don't do Facebook but no one deserves any abuse for just trying to help in bringing this matter to our attention
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Post by: Ian on October 08, 2016, 05:17:35 pm
I'm not sure that what she did differs much from any investigative reporter. Reporters routinely place themselves at risk to get stories and they hope that the camera will capture the outcome so the story can be publicised. The fact is that seagulls swoop on ice cream holders and chip eaters: that's a fact, and she deserves plaudits for taking the risk to show what's happening.  It might not be exactly under fire in war-torn Namibia, but as home-grown stories go it's an issue here, so well done.

Most people would be surprised to see how little of what appears on TV News is actually the genuine, untouched footage. Cutaways, Noddies, dubs and staging are par for the course.
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Post by: Fester on October 08, 2016, 06:04:48 pm
.  It might not be exactly under fire in war-torn Namibia, but as home-grown stories go it's an issue here, so well done.


 :laugh: :laugh: Loving that!   :laugh: :rage:
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Post by: SDQ on October 08, 2016, 06:35:32 pm
Most people would be surprised to see how little of what appears on TV News is actually the genuine, untouched footage. Cutaways, Noddies, dubs and staging are par for the course.


https://youtu.be/9hL_DyvEV84
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Post by: Ian on October 08, 2016, 06:50:18 pm
"Drop the Dead Donkey"; wonderful! The funniest show on TV at the time.
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Post by: spotty dog on October 08, 2016, 07:56:49 pm
these guys where on the cliffs below the old lighthouse trying to find the ice cream thief
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Post by: stefos on October 08, 2016, 09:52:33 pm
.  It might not be exactly under fire in war-torn Namibia, but as home-grown stories go it's an issue here, so well done.


 :laugh: :laugh: Loving that!   :laugh: :rage:

Namibia is safer.War there ended in 1990..... 8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 10, 2016, 07:49:16 am
Thanks for the comments, I think you're probably right about how we "sold" the story online, it could be interpreted as misleading but I think you're right in that we are highlighting a genuine issue. No comment from Conwy Council's "seagull committee"...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on October 10, 2016, 04:40:41 pm
Clowns - everywhere.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/genuine-north-wales-clown-says-12001485 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/genuine-north-wales-clown-says-12001485)

Stupidest craze yet  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 10, 2016, 06:00:42 pm
It could be worse like clowns chasing Pokemon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on October 12, 2016, 09:38:16 am
Please note.

The pay and display car park at Holy Trinity Church is closed to the general public from TODAY to allow resurfacing work to be carried out.
The work will take 3/4 weeks.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 27, 2016, 12:48:04 am
If you didn't see it, you most likely heard it...
A massive military helicopter, one of those which have huge rear doors which vehicles can drive into, thundered access Llandudno bay this afternoon.
It passed over the pier no more than 30ft above it, it was an awesome spectacle before it went low out to sea and swung around Great Ormes Head toward Anglesey.
One thing was obvious, it had no markings or identification whatsoever, which makes one wonder if the SAS or some other special forces are operating on Anglesey?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 27, 2016, 08:13:25 am
There;s been a big exercise involving several NATO allies for the past two weeks. And there was an SBS base in Nant Ffrancon some years ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andyCYD on October 27, 2016, 09:43:38 am
A couple of photos of the Chinook taken from Bodafon field with my phone.

(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154677708803762&set=pcb.10154677709253762)
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154677709018762&set=pcb.10154677709253762)
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154677709168762&set=pcb.10154677709253762)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 27, 2016, 10:54:22 am
It's flying well below the normal height for a helicopter and one of those Chinooks flew over my house some months back and that was very low too.
The noise and vibration it caused was unbelievable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 27, 2016, 03:16:11 pm
Hi Andy, can I tweet those photos? And perhaps be so bold as to use them for the Post? Will credit you of course. Not sure how I missed it, I was in my flat in Llandudno at the time...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andyCYD on October 27, 2016, 06:33:42 pm
Yes, feel free to use them.  I could send you the originals if you PM your address
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 27, 2016, 11:47:01 pm
Yes, feel free to use them.  I could send you the originals if you PM your address

Good luck using the PM system   :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Daihardwelshman on November 04, 2016, 10:22:15 am
The steel structure has started to go up on the new Police Station..... Looks very Tall :o :o :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 13, 2016, 04:48:18 pm
Going underground with Llandudno's Great Orme Exploration Society.      I found this article quite interesting and the GOES website is well worth having a look at



http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/169042/going-underground-with-llandudno-s-great-orme-exploration-society.aspx#.WChg1ZmhK_Q.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/169042/going-underground-with-llandudno-s-great-orme-exploration-society.aspx#.WChg1ZmhK_Q.email)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 13, 2016, 05:06:33 pm
Going underground with Llandudno's Great Orme Exploration Society.      I found this article quite interesting and the GOES website is well worth having a look at
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/169042/going-underground-with-llandudno-s-great-orme-exploration-society.aspx#.WChg1ZmhK_Q.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/169042/going-underground-with-llandudno-s-great-orme-exploration-society.aspx#.WChg1ZmhK_Q.email)

That entrance they are descending is extremely close to the pier pavillion site, in fact only a few metres ?   &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on November 13, 2016, 09:43:19 pm
The escape passageway of Ty Gwyn Mine would actually break out into the Pier Pavilion Site if there was a major rock fall which blocked the normal way out
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 14, 2016, 03:47:28 pm
What does the area around Madoc Street need? Why, another beautician of course! Just opened on Trinity Avenue near Just Jentz (hate that spelling) barbers. I could that as 5(?) within 100 metres now...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on November 15, 2016, 11:24:38 am
Doesn't say a lot about the beauties that live around that area
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 15, 2016, 03:03:31 pm
Ahem, just what are you trying to say OrmeGolf?  :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 17, 2016, 02:21:11 pm
Just arrived back from a very wet trip down the length of Madoc Street. I pity the poor stall holders at the Llandudno Christmas Fayre as it keeps lashing it down and blowing a gale.
The entry fee is now £2.00, or £5.00 for more than one day. Not many people around,but hardly surprising given the weather.
Lots of cheese if you need some ! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 20, 2016, 12:58:29 pm
I went to watch my friend run in the Conwy Half Marathon today and the route should have  been from Conwy along the cycle track to the West Shore. Then along Church Walks, around the Marine Drive returning along the West Shore cycle track to Conwy.
That was the official route but because the West Shore cycle track is now a sand dune the race was rerouted along the main road and caused some traffic problems at the West Shore.
There was an estimated turn out of about 3,000 so the event was very well supported by entrants from all over the UK and some were from abroad too.   The weather was good for running so that was a bonus too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 21, 2016, 06:04:55 pm
It's bloomin' ROUGH out there right now!
A vicious northerly gale, approx 55 mph coming off the sea.
The rain is lashing down, mixed in with sleet.
It's not going to ease down until after 10pm.

Quite a bit of structure damage spotted around town whilst with Dave R today, on Clonmel St, the back street was cordoned off for safety, with debris everywhere.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 21, 2016, 10:22:34 pm
When I drove down the Promenade this afternoon CCBC were closing those small  flood gates at the top of St Georges Place but sea water had already started to flow off the prom. Hope that it worked because there was a strong surge on the sea.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 23, 2016, 12:04:00 pm
Another problem for the pier.

Urgent appeal for £500k to ensure MV Balmoral returns to Llandudno.

THE loss of a historic pleasure steamer could prove a severe blow to Llandudno, tourism chiefs have warned.
Owners of the MV Balmoral have announced an urgent appeal for funding after cancelled excursions led to financial difficulty, meaning next year’s trips may not go ahead.
http://m.northwalespioneer.co.uk/mobile/mnews/169383/urgent-appeal-for-500k-to-ensure-mv-balmoral-returns-to-llandudno.aspx (http://m.northwalespioneer.co.uk/mobile/mnews/169383/urgent-appeal-for-500k-to-ensure-mv-balmoral-returns-to-llandudno.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 23, 2016, 07:04:30 pm
The article says that the Balmoral didn't do well in other areas but proved popular in Llandudno. Maybe the answer is more sailings from here next year.
It would be interesting to find out how many passengers get on and off in Llandudno and how much revenue they bring to the town. Llandudno has already invested heavily in their favour already with the work done to, preferential usage and fee free docking on the pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 23, 2016, 11:56:57 pm
The article says that the Balmoral didn't do well in other areas but proved popular in Llandudno. Maybe the answer is more sailings from here next year.
It would be interesting to find out how many passengers get on and off in Llandudno and how much revenue they bring to the town. Llandudno has already invested heavily in their favour already with the work done to, preferential usage and fee free docking on the pier.

The sailings bring zero revenue to the town,  they simply take large numbers out of the town for the day, who rush off back to their hotels or cars the minute they arrive back.
Trade on those days is little short of disastrous.
I would sink the Balmoral if I was feeling selfish.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 24, 2016, 11:45:09 am
The article says that the Balmoral didn't do well in other areas but proved popular in Llandudno. Maybe the answer is more sailings from here next year.
It would be interesting to find out how many passengers get on and off in Llandudno and how much revenue they bring to the town. Llandudno has already invested heavily in their favour already with the work done to, preferential usage and fee free docking on the pier.

The sailings bring zero revenue to the town,  they simply take large numbers out of the town for the day, who rush off back to their hotels or cars the minute they arrive back.
Trade on those days is little short of disastrous.
I would sink the Balmoral if I was feeling selfish.

But if they fill hotel rooms that has to be an overall benefit to the town and it's businesses. The same logic about daily spend applies to coach day trips too but anyone staying for a week isn't going to want to stroll down the pier everyday are they?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2016, 01:36:02 pm
Who stays for a week these days?
The majority (vast majority) are day trippers and/or caravanners.
They come for 4 hours max.
Those coming for the Balmoral come for the express purpose of going on it, then flee from the town within minutes of disembarking.
You have to talk to them as I do, to fully understand it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 24, 2016, 02:26:05 pm
I think a lot of people do stay for a week in most cases more. As proved in the amount of no vacancies signs on the seafront hotels in the summer. Problem is they are of an age where they either don't stray from the hotel or only as far as across the street. Even if they did go on the pier or to other shops they are not going to want to buy any souvenirs they've all been here about 900 times before.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Big Alan on November 24, 2016, 02:38:17 pm
The Human League were boss last night by the way $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2016, 04:16:05 pm
The Human League were boss last night by the way $good$

Nice one Al, a proper gig, and a proper reason to visit Llandudno!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 24, 2016, 06:58:35 pm
I think a lot of people do stay for a week in most cases more. As proved in the amount of no vacancies signs on the seafront hotels in the summer. Problem is they are of an age where they either don't stray from the hotel or only as far as across the street. Even if they did go on the pier or to other shops they are not going to want to buy any souvenirs they've all been here about 900 times before.

Re the No Vacancies signs displayed on the hotels.

Nowadays, many hotels, large or small, do very few of their own bookings. Their bookings are all managed by the on-line firms like Booking.com and all the others, who are quite content to fill all your rooms, each and every night.................at a cost ! Thus it isn't wise to interfere with their methods, as if you double book what they have all ready booked, you are responsible for finding an alternative booking for the people concerned, under threat of a fine from the booking agency. Also you have no say as to who lands on your doorstep, they book a room and certain people arrive with far too many people to be allowed by fire regulations  One local hotel found a band of people smuggling !mattresses into their lift, thus to sleep more people in one room.
The whole thing is a minefield !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2016, 11:38:37 pm
Thanks Nem,  you'll have to excuse B2R, he doesn't know anything.    :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on November 25, 2016, 09:21:15 am
We saw a wonderful performance of 'Kiss Me Kate' at Venue Cymru last night, a highly polished piece of entertainment with a fabulous orchestra. A delightful evening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2016, 09:30:41 am
I see that work has started to add the copper roof to the new Lifeboat Station - the sections already completed look very smart.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2016, 09:33:01 am
Nowadays, many hotels, large or small, do very few of their own bookings. Their bookings are all managed by the on-line firms like Booking.com and all the others, who are quite content to fill all your rooms, each and every night.................at a cost ! Thus it isn't wise to interfere with their methods, as if you double book what they have all ready booked, you are responsible for finding an alternative booking for the people concerned, under threat of a fine from the booking agency. Also you have no say as to who lands on your doorstep, they book a room and certain people arrive with far too many people to be allowed by fire regulations  One local hotel found a band of people smuggling !mattresses into their lift, thus to sleep more people in one room.
The whole thing is a minefield !
If a booking is made for, say 2 people, and 5 turn up, surely you would be entitled to turn 3 of them away?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 25, 2016, 11:21:35 am
The Human League were boss last night by the way $good$

Nice one Al, a proper gig, and a proper reason to visit Llandudno!

If you ever want to see a band that had a hit less than 30 years ago. I would recommend the ever brilliant The Shires. Playing 2nd Decemeber at Venue Cymru $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 25, 2016, 03:26:24 pm
 VV   Christmas Lights Switch-On's across North Wales 2016    %0%

Our guide to when the Christmas lights switch on across Anglesey, Gwynedd, Conwy, Denbighshire and Flintshire

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/christmas-lights-switch-ons-across-12212066 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/christmas-lights-switch-ons-across-12212066)

Llandudno...... I*
Llandudno: Llandundo Town Council Annual Christmas Parade will take place on December 3 starting at 4pm from Llandudno train station. The parade leaves the railway station at 4pm and proceeds along Vaughan Street, into Mostyn Street and then into Lloyd Street with the trams stopping outside the Town Hall. There will be entertainment outside the Town Hall from 2.40pm, with the lights being switched on at the Town Hall by Deputy Mayor Cllr Francis Davis just before the parade turns into Lloyd Street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on November 25, 2016, 03:27:11 pm
The Human League were boss last night by the way $good$

Nice one Al, a proper gig, and a proper reason to visit Llandudno!

If you ever want to see a band that had a hit less than 30 years ago. I would recommend the ever brilliant The Shires. Playing 2nd Decemeber at Venue Cymru $good$


Who???  At least I've heard of The Human League
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 25, 2016, 03:37:47 pm
Their last album got to number 2 in the charts. Just looked up the Human Leagues last album it peaked the dizzy heights of number 44  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 25, 2016, 03:48:54 pm
Nowadays, many hotels, large or small, do very few of their own bookings. Their bookings are all managed by the on-line firms like Booking.com and all the others, who are quite content to fill all your rooms, each and every night.................at a cost ! Thus it isn't wise to interfere with their methods, as if you double book what they have all ready booked, you are responsible for finding an alternative booking for the people concerned, under threat of a fine from the booking agency. Also you have no say as to who lands on your doorstep, they book a room and certain people arrive with far too many people to be allowed by fire regulations  One local hotel found a band of people smuggling !mattresses into their lift, thus to sleep more people in one room.
The whole thing is a minefield !
If a booking is made for, say 2 people, and 5 turn up, surely you would be entitled to turn 3 of them away?

People book on these sites by the 'room'. I would think because of fire regs. et al you would be, but a certain types of people are crafty. They check in and the owner goes back to their own part of the house. Then when all appears quiet they bring in umpteen children, or in some cases whatever/whoever they can pick up in town !! Friends booked in two women for the night and next morning two men sidled out whilst the women came down for breakfast. !
A CCTV camera system in the hall is essential, not only for counting people in, but checking as to what goes out !

These 'tales' do the rounds, but hoteliers have lost enough linen, including duvets to make them wary !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on November 25, 2016, 04:23:34 pm
It's up to every hotel owner to clearly advise their booking agents how many guests are allowed, when the price is quoted per room (normally 2). If more than that turn up politely refuse the booking, as they will end up being more trouble than the bookings worth.

Another problem can arise when guests are shown to the backroom they have booked through an agent but insist they have booked a sea view room. Most hotels will only put a few of their difficult to get rid of back rooms on place like bookings.com 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 25, 2016, 05:43:57 pm
VV   Christmas Lights Switch-On's across North Wales 2016    %0%

Our guide to when the Christmas lights switch on across Anglesey, Gwynedd, Conwy, Denbighshire and Flintshire

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/christmas-lights-switch-ons-across-12212066 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/christmas-lights-switch-ons-across-12212066)

Llandudno...... I*
Llandudno: Llandundo Town Council Annual Christmas Parade will take place on December 3 starting at 4pm from Llandudno train station. The parade leaves the railway station at 4pm and proceeds along Vaughan Street, into Mostyn Street and then into Lloyd Street with the trams stopping outside the Town Hall. There will be entertainment outside the Town Hall from 2.40pm, with the lights being switched on at the Town Hall by Deputy Mayor Cllr Francis Davis just before the parade turns into Lloyd Street.
Christmas lights in Llandudno, how many bulbs this year ? Time to swop them to LED's and then they could move in to double figures!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Big Alan on November 25, 2016, 08:45:02 pm
Brilliant seeing Fester and Dave R this afternoon. Me and Paula look forward to seeing you again soon. We are back on Boxing Day for a few days. Nice one lads $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 25, 2016, 09:30:52 pm
Brilliant seeing Fester and Dave R this afternoon. Me and Paula look forward to seeing you again soon. We are back on Boxing Day for a few days. Nice one lads $good$

As they say where you're from, it was 'boss' mate!
Boxing Day eh?  I'll be here, I may even be open, if I've anything left to sell.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 26, 2016, 06:49:41 pm
A picture showing some of the maintenance going on at the Great Orme tramway.
The tram itself is raised up off the track via that frame, and the bogie wheel assembly has been removed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 28, 2016, 11:10:42 am
Because.....Trams like us baby we were born to run  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 28, 2016, 01:35:38 pm
Because.....Trams like us baby we were born to run  $good$

Thanks for putting THAT song in my head..... you..... #%##%
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on November 28, 2016, 05:34:09 pm
A picture showing some of the maintenance going on at the Great Orme tramway.
The tram itself is raised up off the track via that frame, and the bogie wheel assembly has been removed.

I'm surprised they do much work there. I would have thought they'd have done all the maintenance inside at the halfway building swapping trams as required.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on November 28, 2016, 07:51:08 pm
A picture showing some of the maintenance going on at the Great Orme tramway.
The tram itself is raised up off the track via that frame, and the bogie wheel assembly has been removed.

I'm surprised they do much work there. I would have thought they'd have done all the maintenance inside at the halfway building swapping trams as required.


But that would mean they could only do one tram at a time.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 29, 2016, 01:16:50 am
A picture showing some of the maintenance going on at the Great Orme tramway.
The tram itself is raised up off the track via that frame, and the bogie wheel assembly has been removed.

I'm surprised they do much work there. I would have thought they'd have done all the maintenance inside at the halfway building swapping trams as required.
But that would mean they could only do one tram at a time.
I know I'm a bit drunk at this hour, and that's probably YOUR fault, but, isn't there only one track at the bottom and the top station?   

EDIT: Edited by DaveR to correct formatting.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on November 29, 2016, 11:18:49 am
I'm surprised they do much work there. I would have thought they'd have done all the maintenance inside at the halfway building swapping trams as required.
But that would mean they could only do one tram at a time.

I just thought that at the halfway station they could work on two of the trams indoors and work on a third tram indoors at the Summit complex as well if they wanted. The two lower trams could then be swapped over to work on the fourth tram rather than work in the open (albeit with a roof) at Victoria Station.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 29, 2016, 04:01:52 pm
Ah but they can't get to the summit and half way stations as the trams aren't running!  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on November 29, 2016, 10:48:18 pm
I'm surprised they do much work there. I would have thought they'd have done all the maintenance inside at the halfway building swapping trams as required.
But that would mean they could only do one tram at a time.

I just thought that at the halfway station they could work on two of the trams indoors and work on a third tram indoors at the Summit complex as well if they wanted. The two lower trams could then be swapped over to work on the fourth tram rather than work in the open (albeit with a roof) at Victoria Station.


I know what you mean but this way all the bogies can be refurbished at the same time, as opposed to doing them seperately, which would be more time consuming and possibly cost more with extra transportation costs.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 02, 2016, 02:34:14 pm
End of an era for Llandudno post office.
For more than a hundred years the grand post office on Vaughan Street served the people of Llandudno.

Its closure just weeks ago marked the end of an era for the seaside town - now customers will have to use the service in WHSmith on Mostyn Street.
The old post office was opened in 1902 next to MOSTYN art gallery.

Following its demise the gallery has put on an exhibition about the postal service, with workers sharing their stories alongside work by contemporary artists.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/end-era-llandudno-post-office-12240188 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/end-era-llandudno-post-office-12240188)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 07, 2016, 10:21:44 am
Great Orme caves sealed off to stop homeless.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/great-orme-caves-sealed-stop-12283276 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/great-orme-caves-sealed-stop-12283276)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on December 11, 2016, 01:33:56 am
Is the pier open to walk down at the mo? I know it usually is in the winter, but pretty sure i remember reading that last winter it was shut for a while.. We're thinking of maybe coming for a day this Friday, thought i'd ask the people who'd know  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 11, 2016, 10:47:44 am
Is the pier open to walk down at the mo? I know it usually is in the winter, but pretty sure i remember reading that last winter it was shut for a while.. We're thinking of maybe coming for a day this Friday, thought i'd ask the people who'd know  ;D

Sure is, plus the bar and cafe are open everyday, (unless the weather is appalling)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on December 14, 2016, 01:08:05 am
Thanks Fester, if there's no rain forecast we're probably coming - a long way for a day trip but the Llandudnosickness we get when we haven't been for a while is calling  ;D
(July is a long time ago!!!)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? (End of an era for Llandudno post office.)
Post by: Jelly Baby on December 15, 2016, 06:19:20 am
I was so sorry to hear about the closure of the Vaughan Street Post Office!  :'( I used to go there many times to collect my Mum's Family Allowance for her - usually in my lunch break! She once gave me a clip around the earhole because my younger sisters started screaming for no apparent reason. When she finally calmed them enough to discover the reason for their terror, it was because they thought the building was falling on top of them. Mum looked up and, sure, enough, looked at from that close angle, and with scudding clouds, it did indeed look like the building was lurching over! And I got the blame for that, hence the thick ear! Me, all innocent and all!  :o
Needless to say, this was very much 'last century' - you wouldn't dare give a kid a thick ear nowadays!
I read the comment at the bottom of the Daily Post article about the long queues there. Well, I can assure the writer that long queues were very much par for the course - and they weren't even selling stuff in those bygone days! It was always busy, no matter what time of day you went! And of course, no matter which queue you stood in, the other one would always move closer to the counter faster than the one you were in - even when you switched queues, dammit!!! :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 15, 2016, 08:29:38 am
It took the Post Office, along with many other UK businesses and institutions, years to work out the new system, which was so patently obvious I can remember as a young kid suggesting it to a bank clerk. He patronisingly told me it would never work with 'people', and so the ludicrous queues continued unabated.

I suspect that's a big reason behind the decline of the UK as a major power in the world. Too many people think that innovation is bad and things should stay as they always were.  I did think we'd escaped from that sometime in the '90s, but I'm not at all sure. Certainly there are still a lot of people locally who simply throw up their hands in hopeless capitulation when anything is suggested that might improve the lot for users of a service.  The NHS is the perfect example.

There are many obvious and relatively low-cost or even no-cost improvements that could be made for the benefit of patients, but it's surprising how few in the NHS can seem to grasp the idea that small improvements can and do make life better for everyone. And I'm fairly sure that there are those in the NHS who can see potential improvements - often systemic - that can be made, cheaply and easily, but they're often reluctant or unable to put their heads above the parapet and suggest them.  The Ambulance service is perhaps the best example.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 16, 2016, 11:09:25 am
I am not in the habit of keeping my parking tickets, ...but I think it might be good idea in the future.......

SHOPPERS are calling for parking in Llandudno to be addressed after several drivers received parking charges – despite keeping to the rules.

Maureen Pardoe and Will Ward were issued parking charges after visiting the retail car parks.

Mostyn Champneys and Parc Llandudno are run by private parking company, ParkingEye, which uses camera recognition to monitor cars going in and out of the car park.
http://m.northwalespioneer.co.uk/mobile/mnews/170284/llandudno-shoppers-angered-by-incorrect-parking-fines.aspx (http://m.northwalespioneer.co.uk/mobile/mnews/170284/llandudno-shoppers-angered-by-incorrect-parking-fines.aspx)
Title: A new UNDERTAKING
Post by: Norm on December 17, 2016, 01:30:57 pm

I had been trying to get in touch with 'EDDIE HALL RUBBISH REMOVED'  to do a job,without much success but when I went to two funerals in a week I saw that he was also a pallbearer for Tom the box!

They could join forces and do budget funeral's  - just paint out the 'ED' on the side of his wagon...   :roll:
Title: Re: A new UNDERTAKING
Post by: PhilMick on December 17, 2016, 05:17:52 pm
Try: Bob a Job.

01492 878499/ 07854 503879

Did a good job for us earlier in the year

Phil
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on December 18, 2016, 03:40:48 pm
What a waste of time this closing of Upper Mostyn St was. Cars parked on both sides of the road and driving up and down. A Policeman said they were eventually told to abandon the whole thing.
The main question is WHY this is Llandudno not London. It gives a false view of the town, that we need such a heavy police presence and A St Johns first aid centre in Tabernacl what part of ART is that.
Merry Christmas though   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 19, 2016, 11:08:46 am
30 things you only know if you grew up in Llandudno.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalgia/30-things-you-only-know-10599056 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalgia/30-things-you-only-know-10599056)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on December 19, 2016, 12:30:18 pm
"If you grew up in Llandudno then these are 32 things that should be more than familiar to you."

I know the list is copied from Facebook from lots of people's individual memories but it looks pretty random in a proper news story like this I doubt anyone who remembers

16. You remember seeing American GIs walking down Mostyn Street in 1944 – hundreds of them were attached to medical units which were billeted in the town that year

also remembers

8. You punched Mr Wimpy on a Saturday afternoon as he stood on the corner at the top of Mostyn Street enticing people into the burger restaurant

or

When Winston Churchill attended a Conservative Party conference at the Pier Pavilion you heard the cheers as he gave his famous Second World War V for Victory sign

and

6. You sneaked a bottle of cider, Thunderbird or 20/20 on the "Double Deckers" at Happy Valley



Although you never know - few bonkers old folk in this time  L0L

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 23, 2016, 05:14:48 pm
Anyone know what is going on at the St. George's Hotel? There now is scaffolding up the front much higher than the building and across the roof???????
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 23, 2016, 05:32:49 pm
Anyone know what is going on at the St. George's Hotel? There now is scaffolding up the front much higher than the building and across the roof???????

Nothing on the above but this is on the DP blog........

Llandudno Town Hall evacuated     Lloyd st. Closed
Statement from Conwy Council: “Llandudno Town Hall has been evacuated after scaffolding became unsafe in strong winds. Police were in attendance. The situation will be monitored.”
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 23, 2016, 06:07:54 pm
The road closure in Lloyd Street starts at the two banks and ends at Back Madoc Street thus leaving access into the car park in the Victoria Centre.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on December 23, 2016, 06:52:03 pm
Anyone know what is going on at the St. George's Hotel? There now is scaffolding up the front much higher than the building and across the roof???????


I read about their new Rooftop development last year.
Do you think it could be this?

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudnos-st-georges-hotel-plans-10068028 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudnos-st-georges-hotel-plans-10068028)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 23, 2016, 08:08:07 pm
Thanks for that Hollins. Just glad that they aren't flouting the listed building/conservation rules, :o as they did by putting plastic windows in !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on December 24, 2016, 10:09:01 am
Anyone know what's happening in Knowles Road with the Police?
Title: Re: Stop Press
Post by: llandudnotrust on December 24, 2016, 10:10:16 am
Anyone know of Carol Services in Llandudno Today???
Title: Llandudno has the most expensive street for property in Wales.
Post by: Helig on December 24, 2016, 10:16:51 am
There was a press report yesterday which gave details of the most expensive addresses for the UK. In Wales, the property prices are the highest in Llys Helig Drive, Llandudno. It said the properties there were worth around £1.6 million.

I remember in the 1960s that Llys Helig Drive was known as Millionaires' Row.

Helig.
Title: Re: Llandudno has the most expensive street for property in Wales.
Post by: Dave on December 24, 2016, 10:24:51 am
It also has one or two of the brashest houses too as each new build tries to out do the others. Good taste doesn't always come with wealth it appears.
Title: Re: Llandudno has the most expensive street for property in Wales.
Post by: Nemesis on December 24, 2016, 12:24:15 pm
It also has one or two of the brashest houses too as each new build tries to out do the others. Good taste doesn't always come with wealth it appears.

"Cost of everything and the value of nothing"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 24, 2016, 12:38:03 pm
Apparently, house prices in Llandudno dropped in 2015; second highest fall in the U.K. to Aberdeen.

I wonder what caused that?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 24, 2016, 12:53:28 pm
Apparently, house prices in Llandudno dropped in 2015; second highest fall in the U.K. to Aberdeen.
I wonder what caused that?

I read a report, and local estate agents disagree, saying that these figures come from Zoopla , and most of them have changed to Rightmove now.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 24, 2016, 02:16:08 pm
I thinks it's true, but Estate Agents don't like to admit it.
I've kept an eye on several properties that I have been interested in, some of them have been on the market for years.
All of them are now listed for considerably less than they were a year or two ago.
One of them has been reduced by 40% in the last 2 years.

Bri, the reason?  No one has any money, and the relationship between earnings and house prices became ridiculously overstretched. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 24, 2016, 06:41:29 pm
I agree with you on both counts, Fester, but why Llandudno in particular?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on December 24, 2016, 11:06:45 pm
I agree with you on both counts, Fester, but why Llandudno in particular?

Not sure Bri, perhaps house prices had risen disproportionately in Llandudno in the past, due to its sought after status, and now it's just a natural readjustment.  Just a theory.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 25, 2016, 02:19:59 am
Fester, have you noticed that none of the local estate agents in Madoc Street and Mostyn Street subscribe to Zoopla?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 25, 2016, 02:57:29 pm
I agree with you on both counts, Fester, but why Llandudno in particular?

It's all the those houses on Llys Helig that have halved in value since the recent builds have been going up. ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on December 27, 2016, 12:04:22 pm
Llys Helig. Is this now known as half a millionaires row
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 31, 2016, 06:37:04 pm
Talking of Llys Helig.......

Llandudno’s New Year celebrations will be punctuated by a blast from the past after a local man restored a cannon belonging to Admiral Lord Nelson’s fleet.

Roger Smith, 79, of Llys Helyg Drive, has owned the 4ft 4in, 12lb carronade cannon for 40 years but decided to restore it and fire it off in homage to lost sailors.
He plans to use it at the stroke of midnight to mark the beginning of 2017 - the first time it has been fired in almost 210 years.
Full story....... http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/cannon-nelsons-fleet-bring-new-12388094 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/cannon-nelsons-fleet-bring-new-12388094)

Happy New Year  and good health to everybody...... ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on December 31, 2016, 06:42:09 pm
Hope there is no one out fishing off there tonight !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 31, 2016, 07:47:13 pm
As another year draws to a close, a very happy and successful New Year to all our members.

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 31, 2016, 07:47:44 pm
And for those who can't see it...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like....... coming soon ?
Post by: SteveH on January 02, 2017, 04:32:28 pm
The Daily Post has focused on key developments in each county that have the potential to create hundreds of new jobs

The seaside town of Llandudno has a number of retail and hospitality projects that could create up to 400 jobs over the next 12 months.
Work is finally set to start in January on the Tudno Castle site with multi-million pound plans for a new Premier Inn hotel and restaurant and retail units.
This will create dozens of jobs during the extensive construction project and more than 100 roles once the site is operational.

At the other side of Parc Llandudno Primark is due to open a store at the former BHS unit in the summer - bringing more than 100 jobs to the area and attracting extra shoppers into the town.
Restaurant chain Dylan’s hopes to open at the Washington Hotel site in the spring with another 40 jobs created and more roles during the development phase.
Finally, there are also controversial plans for the Pier Pavilion site. If this did get the go-ahead, in the face of strong local opposition, then there would be further roles created in the major apartment and commercial development.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/projects-kick-start-north-wales-12394930 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/projects-kick-start-north-wales-12394930)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Greyhound on January 09, 2017, 11:38:47 am
I've heard that The Links is closing for a refit. Any idea what works they are going to do to it? Are they aiming to make it a bit more upmarket or keep it much the same as now? Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere and I am slow to the mark.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 09, 2017, 12:44:26 pm
I've heard that The Links is closing for a refit. Any idea what works they are going to do to it? Are they aiming to make it a bit more upmarket or keep it much the same as now? Sorry if this has been discussed elsewhere and I am slow to the mark.
More of a hotel and eatery than a pub so I hear, hence why the darts team has been disbanded.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? Roger Smith and the carronade??
Post by: Jelly Baby on January 13, 2017, 12:55:28 am
OK, so it's well past New Year (we've been in hibernation!) but pray tell me - and as a Llandudno-born Taswegian, I feel I have earned the right to know!  ;D - did Roger fire his carronade at midnight? I wish I could have been within earshot! I bet that woke a few early-to-bedders up!!  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 13, 2017, 12:09:06 pm
High Tide at North Shore today:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Moelycrio on January 13, 2017, 07:07:53 pm
I thinks it's true, but Estate Agents don't like to admit it.
I've kept an eye on several properties that I have been interested in, some of them have been on the market for years.
All of them are now listed for considerably less than they were a year or two ago.
One of them has been reduced by 40% in the last 2 years.

Bri, the reason?  No one has any money, and the relationship between earnings and house prices became ridiculously overstretched.
I've been watching prices for 6 months and seen some big drops recently. The market for £300k plus homes must be quite limited with regard to local wages. Lots of people inheriting big properties, particularly ones needing work, might be disapointed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 15, 2017, 04:27:08 pm
A pop-up shelter offering overnight accommodation for the vulnerable homeless community is currently being trialled.

The facility at the former English Baptist Church hall on Great Orme’s Road, Llandudno, is part of a project involving The Lighthouse Community and Hope Restored as well as North Wales Police and Conwy Council.
The two week trial involves the shelter being offered three to four days a week for up to eight people, with the church open until 10.15pm, when the doors are closed until the morning.

North Wales Police is stepping up patrols in the area in order to reassure the residential community.
Safer Neighbourhood team Sergeant Parry said: “North Wales Police believes it matters to them not only to listen to the community it serves but to equally protect all of its community and visitors alike.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pop-up-homeless-shelter-12456793 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pop-up-homeless-shelter-12456793)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 16, 2017, 12:21:18 am
So..... you're homeless, but you can sit in the church til 10.15pm,  then you get kicked out onto the freezing streets at 10.15pm?
Isn't that the worst part of the day to be homeless?   How is that helping?  What am I not understanding?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 16, 2017, 08:47:18 am
I think they only lock the doors once all the homeless are safely ensconced within.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 16, 2017, 06:11:57 pm
Ian, I'm not sure that's the case.... genuinely
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 16, 2017, 06:14:02 pm
The article's first sentence:

"A pop-up shelter offering overnight accommodation for the vulnerable homeless community is currently being trialled.":
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 16, 2017, 06:22:11 pm
Perhaps it would be advantageous if I learned to READ!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 17, 2017, 12:26:43 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4125938/Pensioner-fined-80-pouring-coffee-drain.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4125938/Pensioner-fined-80-pouring-coffee-drain.html)

Not in Llandudno but in London but the same litter gestapos who operate in Llandudno.
I also hear they now stalk the car parks of Asda and the other retail parks in the area so take care when it's windy that nothing blows away when you open your car door etc as this vermin will pounce on anyone. Their aim is purely to exploit people and make money.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2017, 12:51:25 pm
Re Asda car park, I have heard that the store has not given permission for them to operate there and it is private land.... ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on January 17, 2017, 02:07:04 pm
Re Asda car park, I have heard that the store has not given permission for them to operate there and it is private land.... ?

I heard that as well, but I saw a post on facebook that claimed they still operated there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 17, 2017, 02:37:54 pm
So if anyone has been slapped with a fine off these sly vermin get your money back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like....... coming soon ?
Post by: TheMedz on January 20, 2017, 07:02:09 pm


Work is finally set to start in January on the Tudno Castle site with multi-million pound plans for a new Premier Inn hotel and restaurant and retail units.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/projects-kick-start-north-wales-12394930 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/projects-kick-start-north-wales-12394930)

Walking past this morning I noticed a row of about 4 or 5 site/workers huts in place within the security fencing of the hotel site. Progress ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 23, 2017, 02:33:29 pm
Good to see further renovation work taking place on Broadway Boulevard today:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on January 24, 2017, 12:31:58 pm
Can I tweet that picture please DaveR?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2017, 02:23:29 pm
Can I tweet that picture please DaveR?
Of course!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 07, 2017, 12:33:28 pm
New Llandudno police station begins to take shape
Work on the Argyll Road site should be completed this year with staff scheduled to move in by October.
Video...
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-llandudno-police-station-begins-12565733 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-llandudno-police-station-begins-12565733)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on February 07, 2017, 03:20:13 pm
Will this one be unlocked unlike the old one, ringing the bell for help while someone is battering you,  like the temporary one in argyle road only open for a few hours on certain days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on February 07, 2017, 05:12:59 pm
Our local police station won't tell anyone when they are open for "security reasons".
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on February 08, 2017, 12:33:24 pm
CCBC plan to remove the underground toilets at Bog Island and build a new above ground toilet block there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on February 08, 2017, 03:37:42 pm
CCBC plan to remove the underground toilets at Bog Island and build a new above ground toilet block there.

Heaven knows what they'll look like!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 08, 2017, 04:08:22 pm
Let's hope that the architect for the bogs in Bog Island isn't the same one who designed  the new Pier Pavilion.       
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 08, 2017, 04:53:45 pm
CCBC plan to remove the underground toilets at Bog Island and build a new above ground toilet block there.

It will be a great relief to us all when it's finished.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on February 08, 2017, 09:21:56 pm
Surely the council can not go wrong with this one.

Already been done, see Clochemerle, a great success for the gentlemen.
What did the ladies have ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 10, 2017, 01:21:40 pm
Whos going to see it ?......I do not think Disney will be worried.

Conwy seagull attacks get the Disney treatment in new animated film
The winged menace is the subject of a cartoon created in a bid to warn people of the dangers of feeding the birds.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-seagull-attacks-disney-treatment-12585489 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-seagull-attacks-disney-treatment-12585489)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on February 10, 2017, 01:48:45 pm
Why don't they just fine the people who feed them like they fine the litter droppers?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 10, 2017, 02:57:16 pm
Whos going to see it ?......I do not think Disney will be worried.

Conwy seagull attacks get the Disney treatment in new animated film
The winged menace is the subject of a cartoon created in a bid to warn people of the dangers of feeding the birds.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-seagull-attacks-disney-treatment-12585489 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-seagull-attacks-disney-treatment-12585489)

Yes indeed ! Where will it be broadcast? Not where the folk on the prom who are the main culprits are I bet . :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: suepp on February 10, 2017, 04:09:17 pm
CCBC plan to remove the underground toilets at Bog Island and build a new above ground toilet block there.

Heaven knows what they'll look like!
with any luck there will be some consideration towards decent facilities for disabled people
<http://www.changing-places.org/>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 15, 2017, 06:28:57 pm
It was amazing how quiet Llandudno was on Valentines night.
We went out, reluctantly, knowing that it would be impossible to get a table anywhere.
But... The Snooze, despite laying on a special menu and extra staff had only about 4 tables booked all night.  The owner said he was puzzled by this.  It's usually busy even on normal nights!
The Gresham had no one in at all, but they no longer serve food.
La Taverna was quiet, as was Johnny Doughs, and every pub deserted.
Seahorse had many tables available.
Mango and Bamboo was completely shut, in fact it looks like it's closed down already!
The Asia looked busy, but it was merely the tables in the window made to look that way.
We chose to eat in the Asia, it was excellent... but by 9.30pm there was not another customer in the place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 15, 2017, 08:22:24 pm
Was informed that The Snowdon was busy, but that was 'second hand' information.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on February 21, 2017, 04:38:40 pm
Llandudno Air Show has already been cancelled this year.
Edward Hiller, of Llandudno Air Show organisers Mostyn Estates, said the new rules are “more exacting” but that there is still huge public support for the air show to make a comeback.
He said: “I’m pleased we made the decision (to cancel) earlier rather than later.
But there is a strong will from the public and other organisations in the town to see it brought back.”

Any news on the air show returning to Llandudno this year?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 21, 2017, 05:59:08 pm
Llandudno Air Show has already been cancelled this year.
Edward Hiller, of Llandudno Air Show organisers Mostyn Estates, said the new rules are “more exacting” but that there is still huge public support for the air show to make a comeback.
He said: “I’m pleased we made the decision (to cancel) earlier rather than later.
But there is a strong will from the public and other organisations in the town to see it brought back.”

Any news on the air show returning to Llandudno this year?

I have had a search around, and it does not look good, the other Airshows are already advertising their dates
Welsh Air Shows 2017:

• 11 June - Welshpool Air Show 2017

• 01-02 July - Wales National Air Show 2017

• 26-27 August - Rhyl Air Show 2017

Sorry no more info.on Llandudno at the moment.
Title: Little Orme illumination
Post by: BeeBee on February 21, 2017, 06:59:53 pm
 C an someone tell me why for the last few days Little Orme ( and maybe even Great Orme) has not been lit up ? Very dissapointed visitors here
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 22, 2017, 07:56:49 am
Wonder if the fireworks will reappear?
Title: Re: Little Orme illumination
Post by: DaveR on February 22, 2017, 09:23:18 am
C an someone tell me why for the last few days Little Orme ( and maybe even Great Orme) has not been lit up ? Very dissapointed visitors here
The Little Orme is lit up most evenings, but I've also noticed that it is sometimes (apparently randomly) in darkness. The ones on the Great Orme are also a bit variable. I wonder how often anyone checks them?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 01, 2017, 04:25:12 pm
The Crocuses looked quite impressive on the grass verge by Maesdu Golf Club when I went past today
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on March 04, 2017, 12:44:16 am
i've never watched Hollyoaks, but noticed this pic on Digital Spy and thought that looks like Angel Bay... so i scrolled, and it is!

So next week Hollyoaks on Ch4 uses Angel Bay, i'll tape it and skip to those bits ;)

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/hollyoaks/news/a822546/hollyoaks-spoilers-john-paul-mcqueen-clifftop-drama/ (http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/hollyoaks/news/a822546/hollyoaks-spoilers-john-paul-mcqueen-clifftop-drama/)


(http://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/17/09/980x490/landscape-1488495766-soaps-hollyoaks-james-john-paul-cl1ff-3.jpg)

I think i have good eyes for the Orme if i recognised it from just the one picture above!!  ;D



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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2017, 08:06:14 am
Well spotted Pebbles     $good$

The first photo is of Angel Bay and the second is also nearby but looking over Penrhyn Bay and Rhos on Sea.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 04, 2017, 08:48:33 am
We saw all the activity from the road when they were filming it, and then read about it on Facebook.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 05, 2017, 10:37:18 am
This Liverpool 'ghost ship' could launch daily sailings to Llandudno by next spring.

The hope is that the newly incorporated Liverpool & North Wales Steamship Company(LNWSC) will start running services from the city to Llandudno Pier and along the Menai Strait by May 2018.

“We are looking to start in May 2018 with the possibility of mooring the ship on Llandudno pier for evening dinner cruises, functions and birthday parties.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/liverpool-ghost-ship-could-launch-12685852 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/liverpool-ghost-ship-could-launch-12685852)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 06, 2017, 01:24:38 pm
I was amused to see the temporary yellow traffic sign at the junction of Queens Road/A470 that referred to a road closure on the 'Lynx Stretch' of the A470. They of course meant 'Links Hotel Stretch'.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on March 09, 2017, 02:22:24 pm
Anyone know why the windows above the Rabbit Hole are boarded up ??
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Post by: Fester on March 09, 2017, 05:37:49 pm
Very noisy Chinook helicopter over my house right now, scary but impressive!
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Post by: Ian on March 09, 2017, 06:41:17 pm
There are exercises taking place. Yesterday there were Chinooks, Sikorskys and jets together.
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Post by: SteveH on March 09, 2017, 08:40:45 pm
There are exercises taking place. Yesterday there were Chinooks, Sikorskys and jets together.
I believe the Red Arrows are also in the area, using RAF Valley jets, not there usual livery
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 09, 2017, 11:36:05 pm
Went out to a few bars in Llandudno tonight,  there were more people sleeping in doorways with dogs, than customers in total around the whole town. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 10, 2017, 07:52:43 am
Interestingly, we've noticed quite a few sleeping in doorways over the last couple of weeks.
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Post by: Nemesis on March 10, 2017, 09:00:46 am
Interestingly, we've noticed quite a few sleeping in doorways over the last couple of weeks.

 :-X Now I wonder what is attracting them to the area ? :-X
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: PhilMick on March 10, 2017, 09:21:22 am
There are exercises taking place. Yesterday there were Chinooks, Sikorskys and jets together.
I believe the Red Arrows are also in the area, using RAF Valley jets, not there usual livery

There's been quite a lot of military activity over here in Staffordshire.

Do you think they're training up for the Battle of Brexit?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on March 10, 2017, 11:40:13 am
There's been quite a lot of military activity over here in Staffordshire.

Do you think they're training up for the Battle of Brexit?

No CCBC has given them permission to carry out bombing raids on Colwyn Bay Pier (well, what's left of it).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 13, 2017, 12:16:02 pm
Comedy festival in Llandudno? Don't make me laugh
Fringe festival will bring top West End show to resort for fraction of price plus FREE events.
The mini-festival will run alongside the annual Craft of Comedy UK conference, which draws in some of the biggest names in the industry.
It will include talks, shows and masterclasses in the art of being funny and the future of comedy .

Announcing the festival, organisers said that among the highlights will be a special version of Showstopper! The Improvised Musical.
Steve Doherty, artistic director of the conference, said: “Every year, Craft of Comedy brings the comedy industry to North Wales.
“With the development of the fringe, we’re hoping that we can spread a little laughter outside the walls of Venue Cymru and bring North Wales to the comedy industry.”
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/comedy-festival-llandudno-dont-make-12725576 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/comedy-festival-llandudno-dont-make-12725576)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 31, 2017, 02:01:41 pm
This report surprised me,...... and raises questions, is this seasonal work, what do they do off season, and locals staying on benefits rather than working.

Brexit immigration control fears on Llandudno tourism trade...where 75% of hospitality workers are from EU
Stark warning over impact of tighter controls on the town's thriving sector.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/brexit-immigration-control-fears-llandudno-12825178 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/brexit-immigration-control-fears-llandudno-12825178)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 07, 2017, 11:17:27 am
I was going to ask if anybody else heard the helicopter last night about 1.30am, sounded very strange, I thought it might even be in trouble, however all's well, from the Coastguard site......

We were paged at around 01:30 this morning at the request of the Welsh Ambulance Services NHS Trust to assist in the search for a despondant male on the North Shore in Llandudno that was reported may have entered the water.
Llandudno Lifeboat RNLI and North Wales Police / Heddlu Gogledd Cymru were also in attendance.
As we arrived on scene we were told that the male had been located by the Police Helicopter on the shingle some distance away from where he was last seen.
He was left in the care of the Police and Ambulance Service.
We were no longer required and returned to station.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 07, 2017, 12:34:47 pm
I was going to ask if anybody else heard the helicopter last night about 1.30am, sounded very strange, I thought it might even be in trouble, however all's well, from the Coastguard site......

We were paged at around 01:30 this morning at the request of the Welsh Ambulance Services NHS Trust to assist in the search for a despondant male on the North Shore in Llandudno that was reported may have entered the water.
Llandudno Lifeboat RNLI and North Wales Police / Heddlu Gogledd Cymru were also in attendance.
As we arrived on scene we were told that the male had been located by the Police Helicopter on the shingle some distance away from where he was last seen.
He was left in the care of the Police and Ambulance Service.
We were no longer required and returned to station.

.... and how much did all that cost us?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Moelycrio on April 07, 2017, 08:49:34 pm
Interestingly, we've noticed quite a few sleeping in doorways over the last couple of weeks.

 :-X Now I wonder what is attracting them to the area ? :-X
Pinching chips from seagulls? Victorian architecture? Begging from tourists? Help me out here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on April 12, 2017, 12:48:28 pm
Gridlock on lower Mostyn St as Mostyn Broadway closed. All traffic being diverted onto the Prom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 12, 2017, 03:38:38 pm
Gridlock on lower Mostyn St as Mostyn Broadway closed. All traffic being diverted onto the Prom.

There's rumours that the Tudno Castle is in trouble, either in danger of falling down, or needing to be demolished for safety reasons.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on April 12, 2017, 05:04:09 pm
There's rumours that the Tudno Castle is in trouble, either in danger of falling down, or needing to be demolished for safety reasons.

Now there's a surprise (not!).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 12, 2017, 06:53:47 pm
It wouldn't be that they have unstable foundations and it's NOT VIABLE to keep the facade, is it?       :o       &shake&


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-gridlock-llandudno-fears-building-12885562 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-gridlock-llandudno-fears-building-12885562)


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 13, 2017, 03:31:51 pm
I drove past the front of the Tudno Castle this morning and the traffic was being diverted down Mostyn Street, presumably as far the roundabout outside the Carlton and then back up again.

I don't know for sure because I eventually drove up Clomnel Street onto the promenade.

Anyway, we have just returned from a walk into town and it seems the cones have since been suspiciously removed but the diversion sign is still there.

As a result, the traffic is no longer going down Mostyn Street (unless they have to) resulting in the traffic queuing from down Mostyn Street to exit Llandudno because nobody is monitoring the problem.

Nobody is working at the Tudno Castle any longer and there are no supports holding up the side of the former hotel.

Whoever has decided the former hotel is unsafe must have decided that those in the Fortes Ice Cream Parlour, the Broadway Hotel and Lloyds Pharmacy are all ok.

Interesting!!

Anyway, it is chaos.

With the Easter weekend now upon us and the Victoria Extravaganza only a fortnight away, this issue needs resolving as soon as possible.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2017, 03:42:25 pm
I was in Llandudno early this morning Bri and the traffic was bad. I parked in Augusta Street and then drove back to Colwyn Bay.  Crossing over from Trinity Square to Clonmel Street took ages and I was just glad to be going home.     I dread to think what Easter will be like for everyone.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39587256 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39587256)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 13, 2017, 03:46:11 pm
Hugo, I wouldn't want to be staying on the top floor of the Broadway Hotel this weekend and I certainly wouldn't recommend an ice cream sundae sitting outside Fortes for the foreseeable future.
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Post by: OrmeMac on April 13, 2017, 03:56:34 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/traffic-chaos-llandudno-amid-fears-12887384 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/traffic-chaos-llandudno-amid-fears-12887384)

The road was due to be closed next week anyway so has just been brought forward by a few days. Work is supposed to be completed by 25 April.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 13, 2017, 04:11:31 pm
Just tackled the prom as far as the roundabout by the sailing club to get to the vets. Kept out of town, but the prom was chaos with coaches and people unable to reverse into a parking space. My Oh went into Mostyn Champneys this a.m. early and all was ok, but at 10 am the prom was jammed. no hope for the weekend !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2017, 04:19:53 pm
I came down the Prom today Nemesis and cars and buses were parked on the road but so was a builders lorry that was double parked and causing chaos.
The orange lights on the vehicle were flashing but as we passed him all we could see was the guy on the phone.  I couldn't get out of the town quick enough.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2017, 04:27:42 pm
Hugo, I wouldn't want to be staying on the top floor of the Broadway Hotel this weekend and I certainly wouldn't recommend an ice cream sundae sitting outside Fortes for the foreseeable future.

After about 8 years of non activity and promises to start the work before Christmas it's ironic that the problem was only found now.  Just imagine how someone would feel that had pre-booked the Broadway Hotel for this coming week.       :rage:
Safety is paramount though but I can feel another planning application is on its way to CCBC  and I wonder how many times the word "viable" will appear in it
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on April 13, 2017, 05:18:58 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/large-part-llandudno-landmark-hotel-12890227 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/large-part-llandudno-landmark-hotel-12890227)

Two thirds of the façade cannot be saved so it will be demolished and rebuilt.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2017, 06:40:12 pm
That's two thirds on Mostyn Broadway that will have to be demolished  but will the facade on Vaughan Street and the one third on Mostyn Broadway be viable to be saved?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 13, 2017, 07:25:20 pm
I noticed the entrance porch at the top of the steps on Vaughan Street had already been removed a few days ago, Hugo, so I assume it has been taken away for renovation.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on April 13, 2017, 08:13:15 pm
Perhaps the "chaos" is more intermittent.  I boarded 1215 X5 bus at M&S at 12.18 today.  He proceeded without any problem to North Western Gardens stop then turned into Vaughan St, accessed the Parade without difficulty and encountered no hold ups.  The preceding 5 service was a few vehicles in front so he was about 15 minutes late.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2017, 08:20:06 pm
It's certainly needed some TLC  Bri. when I last saw it.     You probably know this that the building was originally two  hotels, the Castle Hotel which was on the Broadway Hotel side and the Temperance Hotel which was on the side nearest the railway station.
I'm told that my G Grandfather on my mother's side owned the Temperance Hotel and also the gardens in front of it but those nice gardens have long gone to be replaced by Bog Island! 
My mother's maiden name was also Hughes and the family in those days were called Hughes Temperance but we've succeeded in getting rid of that name.           Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 13, 2017, 08:27:04 pm
Yes, Hugo, that is the section that I noticed had been removed.

At that time, Cambrian, your traffic traveling down Mostyn Street past the Nationwide Building Society unusually enjoyed the right of way for a while.

However, it soon became chaotic after the cones were removed in Vaughan Street and then the right of way reverted back to traffic traveling along Vaughan Street and across into Vaughan Street towards the Imperial Hotel.

This resulted in traffic in Mostyn Street queuing down Mostyn Street as far as the eye can see.

This was after 2pm.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2017, 11:12:28 am
Who else gets irritated by parking like this, when the town is busy?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 14, 2017, 11:23:43 am
I have just been looking at the same situation on Gloddaeth, 8 or 9 foot spaces between cars.      &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on April 14, 2017, 11:35:13 am
For the first time I can remember I've seen a Traffic Warden handing out tickets to cars parked on the Orme. He was booking cars on the double yellow lines on Ty Gwyn Road leading up to Black Gate. I can only imagine that someone from the Trams has reported the issue which at peak times causes gridlock back across the tram lines.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 14, 2017, 11:44:26 am
I wonder if the Traffic Wardens walked up to there?    Driving up there is  bad enough  anyway without people parking on the double yellow lines
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 14, 2017, 01:31:08 pm
Who else gets irritated by parking like this, when the town is busy?

Yes and the double parkers, as discussed yesterday. There is one to the extreme left of your pic.....if that firm get any bigger waggons the whole town will be blocked ! :o
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Post by: cygnusx-1 on April 14, 2017, 02:22:46 pm
I have just been looking at the same situation on Gloddaeth, 8 or 9 foot spaces between cars.      &shake&

I saw both the motorbikes leaving the spaces either side of the white car.......honest!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael W on April 15, 2017, 12:56:42 am
Who else gets irritated by parking like this, when the town is busy?
Some hotels on North Parade obtain parking permits to guarantee their future guests parking.They have to move their and guests cars on a regular basis to ensure later parking spacings, thus taking up  at least two spaces  when only one is parked. Very inconsiderate for occasional visitors.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 15, 2017, 11:41:21 am
After I drove into Llandudno earlier, I have some more observations to make because I know some local councillors do visit our forum.

Mostyn Broadway remains closed to traffic but, amazingly, pedestrians are still allowed to walk down Mostyn Broadway, which begs the question which is the more dangerous option?

Mostyn Broadway Coach Park is empty so one wonders where all the visiting coaches this weekend are going to park?

I witnessed one coach that had turned right off Vaughan Street and into Adelphi Street and then endeavouring to turn right again down Moon Street in order to get back onto Mostyn Broadway to access the coach park.

At the other end of Adelphi Street by the swimming pool yet another coach had turned off Tudno Road and soon established there is not a rear entrance to the coach park. As a result the coach driver struggled to turn round the rear of Cafe Cais. After that, the driver reversed through the No Entry to get into the coach park.

To add to the misery, it looks as if there is an endurance race today on the promenade.

The good news for me is me and my car are now back home.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 15, 2017, 12:06:57 pm
I bet you couldn't believe your eyes when you saw that coach go into Adelphi Street and then into Moon Street, it's unbelievable.     So is the point you've made about the pedestrians going past the building, that's just madness.    Perhaps it's the start of the silly season
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 15, 2017, 01:37:36 pm
My OH, has informed me that the Oval cricket club car boot has been cancelled due to legal reasons involving Mostyn estates ? which is of concern as the club needs the funds to continue operating the Oval ?

Facebook message.....
Good afternoon, this is a post I hoped I would never have to write.
I'm afraid on legal advice we are going to have to cancel Sunday's Boot Sale , and also to announce that there will be no further events on the Oval for the foreseeable future.
We are already in the process of trying to get the sales back on, but this is going to take time and is highly unlikely to be resolved in time to start up again this year.
I would ask that nobody turns up in defiance/support on Sunday, this really would do our cause no good.
I will post in more detail the reasons for the suspension in due course, but please be assured we will be working hard to make sure this is just a years break, not a permanent closure!!



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 15, 2017, 01:46:18 pm
That is a shame. That car boot sale has been on the Oval for many years

Correct, Hugo, and what I forgot to add was there was a lorry making a delivery to a hotel and parked up in Adelphi Street making it even more difficult for the coach to turn into Moon Street.

As a consequence, cars were having to reverse back into Vaughan Street to go the way they should have done in the first place in accordance with the yellow diversion sign.

Sounds silly, Hugo, but I wondered if pedestrians should be provided with hard hats to walk down Mostyn Broadway on the pavement?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 15, 2017, 03:13:23 pm

Sounds silly, Hugo, but I wondered if pedestrians should be provided with hard hats to walk down Mostyn Broadway on the pavement?

It would only sound silly Bri if you said that Mostyn Estates would be paying for the hard hats.       :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 17, 2017, 12:29:51 pm
I am pleased to report that there is now improved signage on the swimming pool side of Mostyn Broadway helping coaches use the coach park and delivery vehicles use the rear of Parc Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 18, 2017, 12:00:32 pm
I am pleased to report that Mostyn Broadway is now closed to pedestrians so the suggestion of hard hats is no longer necessary.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 18, 2017, 01:50:30 pm
I'm pleased that they listened to your advice on the forum Bri.        $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 18, 2017, 03:03:28 pm
I am just pleased, Hugo, that we have at least one councillor on our site that definitely listens and often acts upon what we post.
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Post by: llandudnotrust on April 19, 2017, 02:58:18 pm
Its coming down !!!
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Post by: Nemesis on April 19, 2017, 03:03:23 pm
The whole thing?

,,,,,or rain ? WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on April 19, 2017, 05:57:54 pm
Tudno Castle being demolished - http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-demolition-tudno-castle-mostyn-12915756 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-demolition-tudno-castle-mostyn-12915756)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 19, 2017, 11:11:36 pm
I was driving down Mostyn Street towards the Castle Hotel and the traffic measures that they have put in place certainly help with the flow of traffic and when I turned left into Vaughan Street I noticed that most of the traffic was going down Adelphi Street.
That's probably a quicker route as it took me a while to get on the Promenade from Vaughan Street
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 20, 2017, 10:19:17 am
I believe the road immediately in front of the Tudno Castle is to close until the 10th May with traffic down Conway Road restricted to one lane and diverted up Vaughan Street towards the railway station.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 20, 2017, 01:01:36 pm
Now sIngle lane traffic with a temporary pelican crossing and just five cars beyond that there is the usual pedestrian crossing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 20, 2017, 04:03:42 pm
I believe the road immediately in front of the Tudno Castle is to close until the 10th May with traffic down Conway Road restricted to one lane and diverted up Vaughan Street towards the railway station.

Saw another notice this morning saying that Madoc Street will be shut at certain times ( probably for the parade). Anyone got any tips for crawling up your own exhaust pipe?

Oh and Nant-y-Gamar road is shut as well !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on April 20, 2017, 09:31:46 pm
Driving this evening to get to the retail park we went past the hotel to go down Adelphi Street. The huge crane with a grabber on the end was biting away huge chunks of the side of the hotel. It will be interesting to see if anything beyond the front facade is left. If anything is left at all. On another note it's not a bad job if you can get it leaning on a fence in a high vis waist coat doing sweet fa as quite a significant number of people seemed to be doing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 21, 2017, 08:48:39 am
Makes a lot more sense to demolish it completely and rebuild in a similar style, anyway. On another note, I wonder how many buildings in Llandudno have dodgy foundations?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 21, 2017, 09:37:40 am
You are quite right Ian, it would make more sense economically and construction wise to do that but and it's a big but, the building is listed.
I think it was Blongb who expressed the situation with these listed buildings very clearly and there must be problems with others too.
Mostyn Estates had a problem with the building that was Barton's in St George's Place and it cost the Estate a lot of money to rectify.
I think they have been aware of the problem with the Castle Hotel for  years and just allowed the building to deteriorate knowing that it may have to be partially demolished but I wouldn't be surprised if the public have been drip fed on information and that it was the Estate's intention to demolish the complete building from the outset.
After all it is a detached building unlike Bartons which was a terrace and the Estate had no choice in the matter.       Perhaps in the future the CCBC should be more vigilant with empty neglected properties owned by the Estate.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 21, 2017, 11:10:03 am
On another note it's not a bad job if you can get it leaning on a fence in a high vis waist coat doing sweet fa as quite a significant number of people seemed to be doing.
They are having to remove the scaffolding remotely with a camera/cutter on the end of a crane, lifting it off in large sections and dumping it in a pile, not sure if its worth salvaging, I think the site is a complete no go area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 21, 2017, 11:35:01 am
Despite the fact that I have read that the businesses in the area are operating normally I dread to think how much dirt is being generated, not to mention the amount of 'homeless vermin' which will be scuttling around. The town has a large rat population and I should think that a fair few will be wandering about looking for new homes. Agggh ! :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 21, 2017, 11:55:59 am
I saw this article about whether the Victorian Extravaganza is still going ahead.    Do you know any more Nemesis?


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/llandudno-victorian-extravaganza-2017-transport-12918977 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/llandudno-victorian-extravaganza-2017-transport-12918977)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 21, 2017, 01:19:56 pm
I haven't heard that it has been cancelled, but I will look on Facebook. Hope not, or there will be some very angry people in the town !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 21, 2017, 01:41:00 pm
After the Fireworks debacle, that wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 21, 2017, 05:03:14 pm
Does anybody know why the hotel demolition has suddenly stopped?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 21, 2017, 05:24:29 pm
Does anybody know why the hotel demolition has suddenly stopped?
I had a look today, and was surprised to see the site empty, I am assuming the imminent collapse situation is over, as they have reopened the pedestrian access, ...... it is Friday, early finish ?
Looking at the pile of rubble, that is going to be a massive dirty job, with lots of dumper trucks causing more traffic problems, maybe they are leaving it until after the holiday?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 21, 2017, 05:58:44 pm
It was empty when I passed at 1.30pm.
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Post by: SteveH on April 22, 2017, 01:19:55 pm
I have noticed a vintage London transport "Red bus" doing the Llandudno, Deganwy, Conwy sightseeing tour route, is this new. ?
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Post by: Fester on April 22, 2017, 04:09:59 pm
I have noticed a vintage London transport "Red bus" doing the Llandudno, Deganwy, Conwy sightseeing tour route, is this new. ?

It's new to Llandudno, not a 'new' bus.
Very nice innit?
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 22, 2017, 05:25:54 pm
I haven't yet seen the former Llandudno UDC bus to date outside the pier entrance.
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Post by: Hugo on April 27, 2017, 03:50:02 pm
Hugo, I wouldn't want to be staying on the top floor of the Broadway Hotel this weekend and I certainly wouldn't recommend an ice cream sundae sitting outside Fortes for the foreseeable future.

While Mrs H was doing some shopping in lower Mostyn Street I thought that I'd have a stroll down to the Castle Hotel to see what was going on.   The weather was cold and windy and it had started raining so I only took one photo and quickly returned to my car.
As I passed Fortes two young women were sat outside having a coffee and a cigarette, so sad really, sitting out in a cold, windy and wet place and looking at an eyesore.   A few feet away, they could have enjoyed a coffee in warm and comfortable surroundings.  The addiction must have got the better of the two.
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Post by: Blongb on April 27, 2017, 04:09:14 pm
I got talking to the chap who was in charge of the demolition and he said "If you think this side is bad, you want to go round and look at the other side" (Conwy Rd / Vaughan St corner) "It's worse than this side" So it's quite possible the whole place will have to come down, just like Anwyl did to the Gogarth Abbey.  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 27, 2017, 04:58:50 pm
Good news - I have just driven down the right-hand side lane of Conway Road past Parc Llandudno, then round the front of the Tudno Castle Hotel and back along Mostyn Broadway.

My car is now back on the driveway where it will stay until next Tuesday.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 27, 2017, 05:18:09 pm
I got talking to the chap who was in charge of the demolition and he said "If you think this side is bad, you want to go round and look at the other side" (Conwy Rd / Vaughan St corner) "It's worse than this side" So it's quite possible the whole place will have to come down, just like Anwyl did to the Gogarth Abbey.  :rage:

Can we expect another planning application on the grounds that it's not viable to retain the original facade?             ?{}?      ££££££
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Post by: SteveH on April 27, 2017, 05:38:12 pm
Good news - I have just driven down the right-hand side lane of Conway Road past Parc Llandudno, then round the front of the Tudno Castle Hotel and back along Mostyn Broadway.
Llandudno hotel demolition road closure to end in time for extravaganza

The demolition of the façade on Mostyn Broadway is now complete, and removal of the debris will take place over the next week or so.
As the hotel is listed, the façade will be rebuilt as it was before the demolition.

As a precaution, an engineer will be on site all weekend to continue monitoring the remaining structure and digital monitoring will be in place from next week.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-hotel-demolition-road-closure-12954635 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-hotel-demolition-road-closure-12954635)
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Post by: Nemesis on April 28, 2017, 03:12:07 pm
Just been out with the dog and was stopped by a couple going on to Travelodge. The new sign in the car park says maximum parking is for 10 hours. It is now 3 pm, so if they park overnight they will catch both ends of the warden’s shift if they stay there till tomorrow morning. They said ‘ did I know if what the sign inferred was correct’. I went and read it, it doesn’t say ‘No overnight parking’, but it does say specifically maximum parking time 10 hours, so no wonder all the roads around are clogged solid. People daren’t leave their vehicles in case they get fined !

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Post by: llandudnotrust on April 29, 2017, 05:11:55 pm
Good news - I have just driven down the right-hand side lane of Conway Road past Parc Llandudno, then round the front of the Tudno Castle Hotel and back along Mostyn Broadway.
Llandudno hotel demolition road closure to end in time for extravaganza

The demolition of the façade on Mostyn Broadway is now complete, and removal of the debris will take place over the next week or so.
As the hotel is listed, the façade will be rebuilt as it was before the demolition.

As a precaution, an engineer will be on site all weekend to continue monitoring the remaining structure and digital monitoring will be in place from next week.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-hotel-demolition-road-closure-12954635 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-hotel-demolition-road-closure-12954635)
Anyone checked it for asbestos I wonder? lots of dust
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 29, 2017, 11:29:25 pm
That's a good point as asbestos may have been used there at some time in it's history.    The point should have come out in the planning application but I couldn't see the application on line to see what they had put about dangerous materials
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 08, 2017, 01:41:44 pm
Whilst having breakfast outside a very sunny Kava today, I noticed a guy filming outside Digby Antiques, (which is more like a 2nd hand shop than an antique shop really)
He was filming a guy in a striped jacket, who looked like he'd purchased some pottery and he seemed very pleased with it.

Outside, he regaled passers by with his great bargain, and when a lady asked what it was all about, he said it was for an episode of BBC Antiques Roadshow, to be aired in November.
They seemed most excited, as was the lady running the shop.

The suspicious side of me noticed that there was no BBC logo on the camera,  no lighting or sound crew, nor do I ever remember Antiques Roadshow presenters going to shops to buy things.
That's more like that mahogany coloured bloke who's name escapes me.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on May 08, 2017, 01:54:01 pm
Whilst having breakfast outside a very sunny Kava today, I noticed a guy filming outside Digby Antiques, (which is more like a 2nd hand shop than an antique shop really)
He was filming a guy in a striped jacket, who looked like he'd purchased some pottery and he seemed very pleased with it.

Outside, he regaled passers by with his great bargain, and when a lady asked what it was all about, he said it was for an episode of BBC Antiques Roadshow, to be aired in November.
They seemed most excited, as was the lady running the shop.

The suspicious side of me noticed that there was no BBC logo on the camera,  no lighting or sound crew, nor do I ever remember Antiques Roadshow presenters going to shops to buy things.
That's more like that mahogany coloured bloke who's name escapes me.






I think they meant Antiques Road Trip, they've filmed previous series in this area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 08, 2017, 03:54:16 pm
The lack of sound is curious.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on May 08, 2017, 05:22:40 pm
The lack of sound is curious.


If you've ever seen the programme it is heavily voiced over by Tim Wonnacot giving a running commentary so it would make sense that just a cameraman was following the 'expert'. There are usually two so I assume they split up and the other one was at another dealer.
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Post by: Jack on May 08, 2017, 06:05:28 pm
Antiques Roadtrip were in Caernarfon as well today so probably that
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Post by: Ian on May 08, 2017, 06:43:54 pm
The lack of sound is curious.
If you've ever seen the programme it is heavily voiced over by Tim Wonnacot giving a running commentary so it would make sense that just a cameraman was following the 'expert'. There are usually two so I assume they split up and the other one was at another dealer.

Normally, in any filming, there's background sounds, called 'wildtrack'. Sometimes it's simply ambience but they usually have at least a two-man crew on all filming, precisely because you can't go back easily to get that sound just when it happened.
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Post by: Fester on May 09, 2017, 12:30:49 am
The lack of sound is curious.


If you've ever seen the programme it is heavily voiced over by Tim Wonnacot giving a running commentary so it would make sense that just a cameraman was following the 'expert'. There are usually two so I assume they split up and the other one was at another dealer.

It wasn't Tim Wottacunt but, another chappie in a stripey jacket who looked very smug.
However, you've put my mind at rest somewhat.
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Post by: rhuddlan on May 09, 2017, 07:39:09 am
Thank you Fester..that made me laugh out loud!
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Post by: Nemesis on May 09, 2017, 01:26:05 pm
The lack of sound is curious.


If you've ever seen the programme it is heavily voiced over by Tim Wonnacot giving a running commentary so it would make sense that just a cameraman was following the 'expert'. There are usually two so I assume they split up and the other one was at another dealer.



It wasn't Tim Wottacunt but, another chappie in a stripey jacket who looked very smug.
However, you've put my mind at rest somewhat.

Been on the pop Fester? Or was that deliberate?

Just as an aside Tim Wonnacot only does The Antiques Road Trip now. He doesn't present Bargain Hut any more. Perhaps the chap in the striped jacket was Charles Hanson. A nicer chap you couldn't meet !!
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Post by: Fester on May 09, 2017, 03:32:04 pm
Both actually Nem!

I've just looked on Google, it was definitely him.
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 15, 2017, 09:39:50 am
We are on Dickinson again this afternoon,  this time with 2 country chairs. 2pm, ITV1   D)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on May 15, 2017, 10:28:25 am
Sky planner is set.  X:((
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Post by: hollins on May 15, 2017, 02:13:10 pm
Wow! How lovely to see you both looking so well. xx
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Post by: SteveH on May 15, 2017, 02:23:59 pm
 &well&    $good$
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Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2017, 05:49:07 pm
 :-}}}    I forgot to record it.       :(


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 15, 2017, 06:22:21 pm
Itv Player?  Whatever its called? 
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Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2017, 07:19:50 pm
 $thanx$

Hope that those royalties keep coming in for you.      $hands$
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Post by: snowcap on May 16, 2017, 12:25:19 am
He was ready to spit fire when he saw what you paid for them M.E. but he made a nice profit in the end.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on May 16, 2017, 07:07:48 am
We both did well from those chairs, he knew he would be ok with them I'm sure !  $good$
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Post by: Big Alan on May 16, 2017, 05:05:37 pm
I have some relatives staying in Llandudno next week, getting there on Friday and staying the whole week. Uncles and cousins of varying ages. Anywhere got any live bands on? They love a sing song and I'm at a loss! Any pointers Mr. Fester and B2R? Thanks in advance boys
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 16, 2017, 06:21:09 pm
I have some relatives staying in Llandudno next week, getting there on Friday and staying the whole week. Uncles and cousins of varying ages. Anywhere got any live bands on? They love a sing song and I'm at a loss! Any pointers Mr. Fester and B2R? Thanks in advance boys

Not sure Big Al,  have a look at the 3rd Space Great Orme Brewery, Facebook page.... they do live music these days.
Plus, Cabaret is on in The Grand every night...  most hotels have entertainment on too, every night.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on May 17, 2017, 07:19:57 am
The Gresham has an act on Saturday nights which start at 8pm, same with the Lilly by they don't start until 9pm.
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Post by: born2run on May 17, 2017, 11:03:06 am
Gresham and Lilly will be ok - be mostly covers band though and not great quality. Cooneys normally has better  bands.

Goat Roper Rodeo band and another alt country act are playing the brewery on Friday 26th May.
Even if you don't like country they are great live bands - tickets only a tenner.
If they're in Conwy at all Bluebell is great for live music Saturday and Sunday - Conwy Comrades club for folk club on Monday is worth visiting.

Also check out the Kings Head they are starting to put a lot of stuff on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 25, 2017, 10:42:56 am
FIVE charity champions will put themselves through a gruelling 60 miles of rowing from the Isle of Man to Llandudno in memory of their family members.
The next event will take place this Saturday (May 27) seeing the five piece pull the boat they will be using for the ‘Big Row’ along Llandudno Promenade for 12 hours.

Mr Midgley said: “We’ll be doing it in Viking fancy dress. The boat is 24ft’6 inches in length and 4ft’11 inches in size so it’ll be quite a sight and it’ll give people a chance to see the boat ahead of the Big Row.

“So come along and laugh at us, throw some money in our buckets and help us raise money.”
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/176329/charity-champions-get-ready-to-row-60-miles-from-isle-of-man-to-llandudno.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/176329/charity-champions-get-ready-to-row-60-miles-from-isle-of-man-to-llandudno.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 30, 2017, 09:08:23 am
Two bizarre occurrences I witnessed over the weekend....

First was Saturday lunchtime by Bog Island. We heard shouting and saw a large man, probably early 50s, riding a mobility scooter down Mostyn Street. He was riding it on the road itself, whilst shouting abuse at any car that went past him. He then rode off in the direction of Trinity Ave, still swearing loudly to himself. This was witnessed by a large group of people.

Secondly, we were walking though town on Sunday evening.  A lad of about 16/17, yellow coat, with headphones on, riding a mountain bike with very chunky tyres, came up behind us on the pavement then swerved into the road, then shot back onto the pavement in front of us, whilst shouting abuse about 'stupid people walking along the pavement'. One wonders where he expects people to walk? Sadly, he didn't stop so I could discuss the matter with him...

Anyway, my point is that this sort of low-level anti-social behaviour needs to be stamped out, as it presents a very negative image of the town to visitors.  &shake&
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Post by: Nemesis on May 30, 2017, 10:10:23 am
Looks as though someone has caught one of our members on camera cutting his hedge.........and put him on F.B.!!! :o
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Post by: Fester on May 30, 2017, 12:18:05 pm
Looks as though someone has caught one of our members on camera cutting his hedge.........and put him on F.B.!!! :o

Probably one of the pages I'm banned from.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mondie on May 30, 2017, 05:26:15 pm
Two bizarre occurrences I witnessed over the weekend....

First was Saturday lunchtime by Bog Island. We heard shouting and saw a large man, probably early 50s, riding a mobility scooter down Mostyn Street. He was riding it on the road itself, whilst shouting abuse at any car that went past him. He then rode off in the direction of Trinity Ave, still swearing loudly to himself. This was witnessed by a large group of people.

Secondly, we were walking though town on Sunday evening.  A lad of about 16/17, yellow coat, with headphones on, riding a mountain bike with very chunky tyres, came up behind us on the pavement then swerved into the road, then shot back onto the pavement in front of us, whilst shouting abuse about 'stupid people walking along the pavement'. One wonders where he expects people to walk? Sadly, he didn't stop so I could discuss the matter with him...

Anyway, my point is that this sort of low-level anti-social behaviour needs to be stamped out, as it presents a very negative image of the town to visitors.  &shake&

I have spent a good part my spare time over the past four weeks wandering around Llandudno and really getting a feel for the place. Sadly, muppetry like this seems common enough, most days I would see at least one person or group being generally abusive or intimidating, but low-level stuff similar to your examples It is disappointing to see. However, you do see police around regularly so it would seem they are active on the local beat.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: systema on June 01, 2017, 08:24:21 pm
You want to go to other towns in the UK - muppetry is not a word I would use for them more like intimidating, thuggery, drug dealing and all round frightening.  We did a couple of months of looking at places before we decided on Llandudno as our home for the future as it was everything we wanted and after 3 years has lived up to it.
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Post by: mondie on June 02, 2017, 04:35:20 pm
I don't doubt that systema. Whats it going to be like in another decade  >>>
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on June 05, 2017, 01:02:45 pm
Someone was flying a drone from the Prom on Sunday. Breaking the law from what I can see reading the rules on their use. It's something that needs to be stamped out sooner rather than later. Drones have a scientific use and in commercial use like upland farming  but for leisure they are a pain in the backside. Jet Skis are already disturbing the peace of many for the pleasure of a handful and now we have pesky wasp like devices buzzing around us.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Moelycrio on June 06, 2017, 09:22:46 pm
People playing with drones would be very far down my list of anti social behaviour that needs sorting.
They normally end up losing them on a gust of wind anyway.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on June 06, 2017, 09:46:02 pm
People playing with drones would be very far down my list of anti social behaviour that needs sorting.
They normally end up losing them on a gust of wind anyway.

When they come and hover and circle around your house and garden for several minutes, knowing that they are only there to film, its incredibly intrusive, voyeuristic and unsettling. And there's nothing that you can do about it. What are they filming for, what can they see? I can assure you, its highly anti-social and extremely disturbing.
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Post by: Fester on June 06, 2017, 11:44:17 pm
I think you should ban them from your airspace Bosun!
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Post by: Ian on June 07, 2017, 07:24:23 am
You need one of these for Christmas:

https://www.stone-spear.com/ (https://www.stone-spear.com/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on June 07, 2017, 09:44:45 am
To cut a long story short, not so long ago I had a drone flying around the house, appearing from the east and departing north west. It was in the general area for several minutes, and knowing that they are commonly used by burglars to survey properties. I was quite perturbed by the incident. Then a few days later, another appeared. There is no way of finding where they are launched from, or where they land, or who is using them. A few days later, another appeared, a slightly different shape. I contacted the CCA and they confirmed that under the circumstances I described, they were being flown illegally. But, without being able to trace the user, nothing can be done. The Police noted the incident, but, once again, there's little that they can do.

But believe me, I've considered everything, from a shotgun with No 4 shot to getting a drone myself and ramming them in the air destabilising their gyro system.

                    Don't tell me that they are not anti-social.

Unless you are prepared to let anyone - including criminals - wander around your house and property at anytime, for any reason, peering through your windows filming you without your consent.                     

 
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Post by: Nemesis on June 07, 2017, 11:32:07 am
Just read that Adam Henson will be visiting the Great Orme Farm during the Countryfile programme next Sunday.
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Post by: Hugo on June 07, 2017, 12:15:16 pm
Thanks Nemesis, that should be interesting to watch.     $good$
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Post by: SteveH on June 12, 2017, 11:11:14 am
There's a rumour about a petition to get rid of K.S. and get our own council litter warden/s, I am going to mention it to my local councilor,.... K.S. are doing more harm than good.

Illegally parked Kingdom warden dishes out £100 fine to pensioner for having dog off lead.

Josie Appleton from civil liberties pressure group, the Manifesto Club, who was involved with a recent Panorama investigation into Kingdom’s practices, said: “Whenever punishment becomes a business, injustices will result.

“Wales has one of the highest bonus systems for private wardens in the country, and as a result one of the highest levels of people who have been fined for things they did not do.
“These parasitic and aggressive practices are bringing public authorities and criminal justice into disrepute.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ilegally-parked-kingdom-warden-fine--13169501 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ilegally-parked-kingdom-warden-fine--13169501)
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Post by: Nemesis on June 12, 2017, 06:20:17 pm
Good idea. They need taking down a peg or two.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 15, 2017, 02:20:53 pm
What can be done to stop the swooping seagull menace?

 Tom Davidson ✔ @DPTomDavidson
This is the most important Conwy Council report of the year:

How to stop the seagull menace: http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/documents/s91776/Seagull%20Scrutiny%20report%20outcome%20of%20task%20and%20finish%20group%20as%20of%2006%20March%2017.pdf (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/documents/s91776/Seagull%20Scrutiny%20report%20outcome%20of%20task%20and%20finish%20group%20as%20of%2006%20March%2017.pdf) …

I did note the following reference, bearing in mind the above Kingdom Sec. post.

" 4.5 Enforcement of Environmental Protection Act 1990 provisions in relation to the
issuing of Fixed Penalty Notices for littering will continue. It is worth noting that
the number of such Notices issued for littering across the County as of the end of
January 2017 for littering was 3339, which is an increase on the figure for the
same period last year (2166)."
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Post by: spotty dog on June 15, 2017, 05:34:39 pm
I have a better way

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Wild birds: general licence to take or kill for health or safety purposes

From:
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Part of:
General licences for wildlife management and Bird licences
Published:
31 December 2013
Last updated:
1 January 2017, see all updates
Applies to:
England
Get a general licence as a land owner or other authorised person to catch alive or kill wild birds to preserve public health or public safety (licence GL05).
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Licence to kill or take certain birds to preserve public health or public safety (GL05)
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If you’re a land owner, occupier or other authorised person you can use this general licence to carry out a range of otherwise prohibited activities against certain wild birds. You don’t need to apply for this general licence but you must meet its conditions and follow its instructions.
You are an authorised person if you’re one of the following:
the land owner, occupier or anyone authorised by the owner or occupier
authorised in writing by the local authority
authorised in writing by any England, Scotland or Wales conservation body, a district board for fisheries or local fisheries committee
authorised in writing by the Environment Agency, a water undertaker or a sewerage undertaker
You can only use this licence to preserve public health or public safety.
You can’t use this licence to kill birds because they are damaging your property, such as your car or house, or if they’re a nuisance.
Birds you can catch alive or kill with this licence
With this licence you can catch alive or kill:
crows
collared doves
jackdaws
jays
lesser black-backed gulls
magpies
pigeons (feral and woodpigeon)
rooks
You can catch alive or kill, as well as take, damage or destroy the nests, or take or destroy the eggs of:
Canada geese
monk parakeets
You can take, damage or destroy the nests, or take or destroy the eggs of:
herring gulls
You must still follow animal welfare laws and kill birds in a quick and humane manner.
You can eat birds killed under this licence, but (other than woodpigeons) you can’t sell them for human consumption.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 15, 2017, 07:04:48 pm
The time to 'destroy nests of herring gulls is long overdue.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 17, 2017, 01:37:53 pm
Homeless to be 'sent to stay on a farm' after Llandudno refuge shut down
David Hampson-Miller has been told he can no longer use the property in Caroline Road as a refuge after a series of complaints

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-homeless-caroline-road-miller-13199473 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-homeless-caroline-road-miller-13199473)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 17, 2017, 08:44:25 pm
I bumped into Mr and Mrs Bri Roberts today, and Bri mentioned a planning notice posted on a lamp post on North Parade.
It was regarding CCBC changing the designation of the street to allow street trading!
I took a look, and then I saw others around town too. Notably on Gloddaeth St.

The wording suggested as though they have decided to allow street trading in many such areas, and they are just seeking any feedback, not 'objections' as such.

Anyone shed any more light on what's going on, and why?
Don't want to scaremonger, but this 'could' change the entire character of Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2017, 04:12:11 pm
I agree, Fester, the residents deserve an explanation as to what is happening and what is changing?
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Post by: Nemesis on June 18, 2017, 04:18:41 pm
A number of we locals have discussed this and involved our local councillor. It appears that there is some desire to have a market of some sort here, but this is the answer which we got earlier this week.
 

 

Street Trading Review

 

Conwy County Borough Council is proposing to allow street trading on many of the streets in Llandudno where it is currently prohibited. This is a REVIEW and it relies on the opinions of the local residents. You all have till 10th July 2017 to have your say. You must email licensing@conwy.gov.uk. Please feel free to copy ME into this email NOT Harry. Harry Saville sits on the Licensing Committee and he is expected to make an unprejudiced decision based on information available to the Committee when it comes up for discussion.

 

I have spoken to John Donnelly this morning who is Head of Licensing and came to a recent FOWS Meeting. He was approached 12 months ago by Councillors and potential street traders to look at the prohibitions in the whole of the County. Within Llandudno my thoughts are that has something to do with the Colwyn Bay Market Traders wanting to put a market on the Market Street Car Park (the large one behind the Town Hall). He said this is very much ‘a review’, it does not mean the streets names will be flooded with burger vans within the near future! If some streets become a street trading area, the street traders still have to apply for a license and as with the tea/coffee van at West Shore, they have to be seen to ‘fit in’ with the area.

 

The streets named in the attached document include all streets within 50m of a currently prohibited area for street trading so don’t panic if you see a clearly residential street being listed.

 

Residents don’t have to have a specific reason to complain (unlike planning). They can say they ‘just don’t want it’ but if you can provide justification in your email that all helps.

 

The currently prohibited area from the car park at West Shore to the start of Marine Drive is on the list for review, i.e. the whole length of West Shore promenade. But don’t panic, get your emails into licensing and I’ll keep you informed if I hear anything. I will also being doing a letter drop to the affected areas next week.

 

Please find attached the relevant information.

 

Louise Emery

Chairman Friends of West Shore

07768 793874

I think I have kept the so named attached information. I will look.

Sorry I haven't kept those as they duplicated what was posted in the public domain.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on June 18, 2017, 04:41:25 pm
Great information Nemesis thanks.
Why oh why do these council notices have to be so deliberately vague?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 18, 2017, 04:45:48 pm
Thank you, Nem.

I cannot understand why something so significant has not yet made the front page of the NWWN.

Perhaps, it will be next Wednesday or has Tom now moved on?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 18, 2017, 05:15:37 pm
Nem. Thank you for the for the heads up, I will contact them ASAP with my objections.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 25, 2017, 12:36:22 pm
Llandudno to be at centre of national Armed Forces Day 2018
The town, which locals say has a 'deep affiliation' with the forces, will hold the main event for the UK next year.

A North Wales town will be at the centre of next year’s national Armed Forces Day.
Llandudno will play host to the centrepiece event in 2018, when Armed Forces Day celebrates its 10th anniversary.

Earl Howe, Defence Minister for the Lords, said: “Llandudno represents a superb venue for next year’s celebrations and I’m sure the town will bring together the whole nation in celebrating our Armed Forces.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-hold-centrepiece-event-national-13235697 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/llandudno-hold-centrepiece-event-national-13235697)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on June 25, 2017, 01:00:53 pm
We went to Conway yesterday to see the medieval and jousting day ,Conway has got it right no fair ground tat all stall holders dressed appropriately and the jousting was exceptional a good day was had by all . Had lunch at Erskine food and service was good ,if they keep the rowdy element out at night it will be a success
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 26, 2017, 02:09:24 pm
More on Crolla's coming to Llandudno:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/jock-icescottish-ice-cream-giant-13239026 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/jock-icescottish-ice-cream-giant-13239026)
Title: Re: What's Deganwy Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 30, 2017, 10:31:13 am
Deganwy Marina put up for sale for £2.5m
The marina has been placed on the market by the Crown Estate.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/deganwy-marina-put-up-sale-13260824 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/deganwy-marina-put-up-sale-13260824)
Title: Re: What's Deganwy Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on June 30, 2017, 04:43:05 pm
Deganwy Marina put up for sale for £2.5m
The marina has been placed on the market by the Crown Estate.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/deganwy-marina-put-up-sale-13260824 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/deganwy-marina-put-up-sale-13260824)

Can't be making enough return if they are selling it off I wouldn't have thought!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 02, 2017, 01:29:58 pm
The protest against Kingdom Security and the lack of signage was well attended this morning.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on July 02, 2017, 07:10:31 pm
Whats all this about at West Shore.
Will arrive next Sunday for 5 Days with my dog .
What have I got to look out for ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 02, 2017, 08:57:54 pm
One thing I heard of was someone being fined for having their dog off the lead on the pavement which is against the law apparently.
In this particular case they had parked on the road near the pump house, opened the rear car door , the dog jumped out on to the pavement then jumped over the wall on to the grass eager to start it's daily walk. The owner was presented with an £80 fine on their return.
I think it might also be breaking the law if the dog is on a flexi lead if walking on the pavement in case it runs in to the road.

Whereas the law is quite sensible if it's applied appropriately, it also needs correct judgement to decide when it is inappropriate however these people that work for Kingdom Security aren't interested in anything other than making money so the merest indiscretion is a green light to issue a fine.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 02, 2017, 09:16:08 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/residents-vow-take-back-control-13256974 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/residents-vow-take-back-control-13256974)

Trouble is that there is inadequate signage on the subject, especially for visitors.
At the meeting this morning it was said that Kingdom Security have been banned from the West Shore until the matter is resolved. I imagine that they will thus be all over North Shore and the town itself. :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on July 02, 2017, 09:22:48 pm
What's with the obsession with signs for everything - there are so many that people do not read them, and that doesn't just apply to the signs about dogs.

Do you really need signs to say that you have to have your dog on a lead, that you have to have it on a short rein if you're on the pavement, and that you have to clear up if they mess.

Just seems to be common sense to me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 02, 2017, 11:20:51 pm
Whats all this about at West Shore.
Will arrive next Sunday for 5 Days with my dog .
What have I got to look out for ?

Just watch where you're putting you feet Mull as a number of dog owners don't bother picking up the dog poo and it gives other dog owners a bad name.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 03, 2017, 08:53:17 am
The point here is not that the signs are not around, but that Kingdom are pouncing on people who, because there is nothing to tell them otherwise and fining them, on the spot, when they don't even know what they have done wrong.

As for dog poo, we were surprised how little there was on the grass as we walked along.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 03, 2017, 10:01:22 am
One thing I heard of was someone being fined for having their dog off the lead on the pavement which is against the law apparently.
In this particular case they had parked on the road near the pump house, opened the rear car door , the dog jumped out on to the pavement then jumped over the wall on to the grass eager to start it's daily walk. The owner was presented with an £80 fine on their return.
I think it might also be breaking the law if the dog is on a flexi lead if walking on the pavement in case it runs in to the road.


There is no requirement in law to have your dog on a lead. However, it is an offence to let a dog 'be dangerously out of control'.

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/overview (https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/overview)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 03, 2017, 10:38:31 am
I got one of these a few years ago, maybe of some help.....

http://spp.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/581/dog_leaflet_english_a5.pdf (http://spp.conwy.gov.uk/upload/public/attachments/581/dog_leaflet_english_a5.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 04, 2017, 07:27:17 am


There is no requirement in law to have your dog on a lead. However, it is an offence to let a dog 'be dangerously out of control'.

It appears that it is against the law looking at Steve's link.
I didn't realise the beach at West Shore between the two stone groynes is  a prohibited place at certain times of the year too.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 04, 2017, 08:42:04 am
It's an offence to have your dog off the lead on the cycle track too, but most times when I've been there, there is no cycle track just a sand dune.
The two stone groynes will be the ones between the car park and the Toll House but there is a third stone groyne where the Black Rocks used to be, I wonder if anyone could get them on a technicality if they were fined?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 04, 2017, 09:19:35 am
Dave is absolutely right, my apologies, I now understand that it IS now an offence not to your dog on a lead on the pavement under the local byelaws enacted by Conwy Council under the Dog Control Orders (Prescribed Offences and Penalties, etc.) Regulations 2006 and the Dog Control Orders (Procedures) Regulations 2006, which implement sections 55 and 56 of the Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005.

Even if the enacted regulations appear to be a sledgehammer to crack a nut, the enforcement is ludicrous and alienating decent members of the public. Remuneration based on the number of penalties issued for is known to be an appalling methodology of enforcement; the type of people employed to be 'enforce' these type of regulations are the equivalent of wheel clampers, who will use any triviality to enhance their own salary, usually minimal, to enhanced by their results.

This method of enforcement of should itself be made illegal.     
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on July 04, 2017, 09:28:03 am
Surely the concept of target figures for offences is totally wrong - whether it be dog fouling, speeding motorists or any other indiscretion.

The target should be zero ... in other words, everyone is complying with the law and no offences being committed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 04, 2017, 09:47:23 am
I was speaking yesterday to a couple who visit the town on a regular basis. Less than a month ago they arrived, parked at North Shore and let their huge, elderly shaggy dog stand on the pavement whilst they got his lead from the car. Within seconds a bully of a man thrust a video camera in the woman's face and demanded £75.00. She was so frightened that they paid up.

Is this what we want for Llandudno?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 04, 2017, 12:32:02 pm
Dave is absolutely right, my apologies, I now understand that it IS now an offence not to your dog on a lead on the pavement under the local byelaws enacted by Conwy Council under the Dog Control Orders (Prescribed Offences and Penalties, etc.) Regulations 2006 and the Dog Control Orders (Procedures) Regulations 2006, which implement sections 55 and 56 of the Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005.

Even if the enacted regulations appear to be a sledgehammer to crack a nut, the enforcement is ludicrous and alienating decent members of the public. Remuneration based on the number of penalties issued for is known to be an appalling methodology of enforcement; the type of people employed to be 'enforce' these type of regulations are the equivalent of wheel clampers, who will use any triviality to enhance their own salary, usually minimal, to enhanced by their results.

This method of enforcement of should itself be made illegal.     

If that's the case why don't they go on the cycle path by Conwy beach? They'd make a mint there! Full of dogs running around off leads chasing (very slow) runners like myself.
I don't want to give them any ideas though  $angry$ seems they extort enough off people already
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 04, 2017, 12:33:28 pm
In fact if the fine is per Dog they would be making about £250 a time as I nearly always see one or two people with anywhere between 3-6 dogs running around causing mayhem!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 04, 2017, 05:09:42 pm
Dave is absolutely right, my apologies, I now understand that it IS now an offence not to your dog on a lead on the pavement under the local byelaws enacted by Conwy Council under the Dog Control Orders (Prescribed Offences and Penalties, etc.) Regulations 2006 and the Dog Control Orders (Procedures) Regulations 2006, which implement sections 55 and 56 of the Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005.

Even if the enacted regulations appear to be a sledgehammer to crack a nut, the enforcement is ludicrous and alienating decent members of the public. Remuneration based on the number of penalties issued for is known to be an appalling methodology of enforcement; the type of people employed to be 'enforce' these type of regulations are the equivalent of wheel clampers, who will use any triviality to enhance their own salary, usually minimal, to enhanced by their results.

This method of enforcement of should itself be made illegal.     

If that's the case why don't they go on the cycle path by Conwy beach? They'd make a mint there! Full of dogs running around off leads chasing (very slow) runners like myself.
I don't want to give them any ideas though  $angry$ seems they extort enough off people already

Stop winging and run faster.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 04, 2017, 09:27:51 pm
Dave is absolutely right, my apologies, I now understand that it IS now an offence not to your dog on a lead on the pavement under the local byelaws enacted by Conwy Council under the Dog Control Orders (Prescribed Offences and Penalties, etc.) Regulations 2006 and the Dog Control Orders (Procedures) Regulations 2006, which implement sections 55 and 56 of the Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005.

Even if the enacted regulations appear to be a sledgehammer to crack a nut, the enforcement is ludicrous and alienating decent members of the public. Remuneration based on the number of penalties issued for is known to be an appalling methodology of enforcement; the type of people employed to be 'enforce' these type of regulations are the equivalent of wheel clampers, who will use any triviality to enhance their own salary, usually minimal, to enhanced by their results.

This method of enforcement of should itself be made illegal.     

If that's the case why don't they go on the cycle path by Conwy beach? They'd make a mint there! Full of dogs running around off leads chasing (very slow) runners like myself.
I don't want to give them any ideas though  $angry$ seems they extort enough off people already

Stop winging and run faster.

All right, it was supposed to read 'whingeing'... Its been one of those really irritating days when nothing whatsoever has gone to plan, there's no one to blame but yourself, and to cap it all, Michael Gove is on TV.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 05, 2017, 07:37:54 am
I sometimes wonder how many broken TVs his appearances have created...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 05, 2017, 09:41:25 am
This is interesting; compares old maps with a new one/aerial view for a particular area. Click the link and see:

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=53.3270&lon=-3.8345&layers=BingSat&right=171 (http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=53.3270&lon=-3.8345&layers=BingSat&right=171)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 05, 2017, 09:52:02 am
This is interesting; compares old maps with a new one/aerial view for a particular area. Click the link and see:
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=53.3270&lon=-3.8345&layers=BingSat&right=171 (http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=53.3270&lon=-3.8345&layers=BingSat&right=171)

Very clever,  $thanx$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 05, 2017, 10:45:01 am
That is fascinating!   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 05, 2017, 11:32:13 am
An excellent find, the map is pre 1900, at a guess 1897!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 12, 2017, 04:04:46 pm
Work to build a new toilet block at Bog Island started this week.

Perhaps the disused underground toilets could become a new headquarters for the...

LLANDUDNO IMPROVEMENT COMMISSIONERS?

 8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 12, 2017, 06:06:02 pm
There is also scaffolding and blue netting all over the front of the Tudno Castle and I cannot remember if it has been there all the time or was it taken down?

Hopefully, someone will put me right or I won't sleep tonight.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 12, 2017, 06:47:37 pm
Saw this in Asda car Park this morning, some kind of modern art installation I assume !  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 12, 2017, 08:16:34 pm
There is also scaffolding and blue netting all over the front of the Tudno Castle and I cannot remember if it has been there all the time or was it taken down?

Hopefully, someone will put me right or I won't sleep tonight.

It's been there all the time.....  $good$  sleep tight......I do not think the scaffolding or the building is safe enough to allow any work, the scaffolding at the rear was torn down and scrapped rather than allow the normal dismantling process.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 12, 2017, 08:21:29 pm
Saw this in Asda car Park this morning, some kind of modern art installation I assume !  :)

Are you sure that it wasn't a huge gull which had passed by?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 13, 2017, 07:48:18 am
If it was it's certainly one I wouldn't want to try shooing away   ^^^^
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 13, 2017, 11:03:21 am
Absolutely Fabulous launch for new Ty Gobaith, (Hope House), hospice fundraiser
Joanna Lumley praises 'wonderful people' making life better for newborn babies with life-limiting conditions and their families.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/absolutely-fabulous-launch-new-ty-13323131 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/absolutely-fabulous-launch-new-ty-13323131)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on July 13, 2017, 08:12:31 pm
Working on the promenade tonight taking down all the decorative strings of lights between the lamp posts.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 14, 2017, 08:01:08 am
Are they being replaced?
Title: Re: National Armed Forces Day 2018
Post by: SteveH on July 14, 2017, 10:56:59 am
National Armed Forces Day 2018 expected to draw up to 200,000 visitors
The event, to be staged in and around Llandudno, after council submitted 'gold standard application' to host 10th celebrations.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/national-armed-forces-day-2018-13329458 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/national-armed-forces-day-2018-13329458)
Title: Re: National Armed Forces Day 2018
Post by: Dave on July 14, 2017, 12:14:11 pm
National Armed Forces Day 2018 expected to draw up to 200,000 visitors
The event, to be staged in and around Llandudno, after council submitted 'gold standard application' to host 10th celebrations.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/national-armed-forces-day-2018-13329458 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/national-armed-forces-day-2018-13329458)

This is going to take some serious organisation. 200,000 people ...... how many cars?
A great coup for Llandudno though and there is no better place to watch an aerial display from. I'm pencilling in the event to make sure I'm home this time as I missed the last Red Arrows display!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2017, 12:52:50 pm
Dave, the Red Arrows will be at the Rhyl Airshow next month.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 14, 2017, 01:11:56 pm
Dave, the Red Arrows will be at the Rhyl Airshow next month.

I can never motivate myself to go there though..... because of the crowds!! parking etc etc.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 14, 2017, 08:39:31 pm
How is a Llandudno Air Show any different?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 14, 2017, 10:20:51 pm
How is a Llandudno Air Show any different?

I can walk to the best viewing spots from home, even watch from the garden.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 15, 2017, 07:54:29 am

How is a Llandudno Air Show any different?

The Orme makes it different. Loads of superb viewing spots on that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 15, 2017, 09:00:40 am

How is a Llandudno Air Show any different?

The Orme makes it different. Loads of superb viewing spots on that.

Make that Ormes and not forgetting Nant-y-Gamar either.
Then of course there is always the Prom too.
The big question is though, how to deal with the traffic if 50,000 cars turn up.
Who ever put in the proposal must have covered that issue but I'm curious to know how.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 15, 2017, 09:31:51 am
I doubt CCBC have given much consideration to parking, but as there is still time we can only hope, also the figure of 200,000 is the top estimate based on the Liverpool attendance. 

Quote from Wing Commander Tracey Broome, who helps to organise the event for the Ministry of Defence praised the council’s approach to successfully bidding for the event.
 “I would say it would be between 60,000 and 200,000, 60,000 because that was the smallest event we’ve had and in Liverpool this year there were 200,000 people at it.”
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 15, 2017, 11:13:31 am
I doubt CCBC have given much consideration to parking, but as there is still time we can only hope, also the figure of 200,000 is the top estimate based on the Liverpool attendance. 

Quote from Wing Commander Tracey Broome, who helps to organise the event for the Ministry of Defence praised the council’s approach to successfully bidding for the event.
 “I would say it would be between 60,000 and 200,000, 60,000 because that was the smallest event we’ve had and in Liverpool this year there were 200,000 people at it.”

Because Liverpool is close, many who attended and enjoyed the event will no doubt be in a position to visit Llandudno too. I guess a large number of people will live or be staying locally, Liverpool has a population far in excess of Llandudno's but probably no more beds for guest accommodation, in fact less I would think.
This is a mega opportunity for local tourist based businesses, lets hope that the council can come up with the parking solutions as well as workable traffic management on that weekend.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 17, 2017, 10:10:18 am
I saw some videos over the weekend of work being done on Kiddies corner in the last few days, JCB and dumper trucks moving rocks etc. I am not sure what I was seeing, but this link should give you an idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6F0j0F8ERA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6F0j0F8ERA)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 17, 2017, 08:07:39 pm
I have heard this afternoon that Premier Inn have pulled out of the Tudno Castle site. Is this just a rumour, or has anyone else heard anything?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on July 17, 2017, 08:43:05 pm
Are they being replaced?

New tension wires and lights going up tonight. With two cable ties per bulb it will be a long job!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on July 18, 2017, 04:08:41 pm
BEWARE of the new 20 mile per hour speed limit on a stretch of Trinity Avenue starting and ending on either side of Ysgol Tudno.

We have all known this as a 30 limit and the new signage is not exactly "large"!

A friend of mine has recently been caught doing 25mph in the new 20 stretch. She was not aware of the change.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on July 21, 2017, 05:19:35 pm
Are they being replaced?

New tension wires and lights going up tonight. With two cable ties per bulb it will be a long job!

Apologies for the delay but here's a photograph of the new promenade lights being fitted on Wednesday night. Either by virtue of bad planning or timing they are having to leave a gap in the lights to allow the lifeboat access to the slipway. If they had waited a couple of months until the new lifeboat station was operational then the gap would no longer have been necessary.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 21, 2017, 06:02:00 pm
Good shot of the St Georges new penthouse rooms.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on July 21, 2017, 06:11:18 pm
A thing I think should be looked at is the bus bay at the start of the pier. It is now full to overflowing with vehicles and road trains - so much so when one bus wants out the two road trains need to loop around to let them pass. At the very least it needs to be widened or lengthened to work properly again. One day I saw two road trains (around the Orme and West Shore) and four buses (open top, open top ticket office, London Routemaster and the vintage bus for going around the Orme). It's great Llandudno can support so many businesses like this but the infrastructure needs to grow as well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on July 21, 2017, 06:17:05 pm
Yes Ormac, I have noticed this as well.  I have heard that the Open Top bus used as a ticket office (it also seems to usefully act as an informal TIC) being parked there was a reaction to the rent increase for their previous office immediately outside the pier entrance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 24, 2017, 08:49:54 pm
Just watched a short acrobatic aerial display over Westshore before they flew to the Northshore for another short display, very unexpected, but entertaining on this lovely evening, anybody else see it?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bellringer on July 24, 2017, 09:34:27 pm
A single plane over Conwy looping the loop etc. And yes it has generally been a beautiful day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 24, 2017, 10:20:31 pm
It was a Supermarine Spitfire, unfortunately I didn't have my binoculars to hand to get any more detail, but it was a privilege to see.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 25, 2017, 11:01:43 am
There is a Spitfire based in North Wales, I read the story a few years ago.........

http://www.paulsquires.co.uk/spitfire.html (http://www.paulsquires.co.uk/spitfire.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on July 25, 2017, 12:38:57 pm
I was at a car club event near Dyserth on Sunday afternoon and it flew over twice ... think it's based on the small airstrip just north of Denbigh ... certainly spectacular as it dipped so the pilot could have a better look at what we were up to!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 25, 2017, 12:47:41 pm
The aircraft last night was a single seat aircraft.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on July 25, 2017, 02:01:09 pm
Just flown over again at 1400 west to east.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 26, 2017, 06:21:28 pm
Planning application notices have gone up in Queens Park , Craig-y-Don for Gorjys Events to sell alcohol, late night refreshments and play both recorded and live music and dance performances between the hours of 10.00am and 23.30 from Wednesdays through to Sunday all year.
Now once in a long while might be OK but as a regular event  there is no way In my humble opinion it should be allowed in what is now a lovely park and play area.
Worryingly, the Gorjys Events website refers to Conwy Council as a friend
http://www.gorjys.com/#friends (http://www.gorjys.com/#friends)
What with applications to allow street traders on many streets in and around Llandudno, what's it all about?
Is it just to make it easy on a one off basis but if that's so it will open the floodgates to abuse.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 26, 2017, 07:26:50 pm
Very interesting especially as the toilet facilities were removed a number of years ago.

Down on West Shore would seem a more suitable location where there are toilets.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andyCYD on July 26, 2017, 07:56:15 pm
A license has been applied for so that a sports, food and music event can be held.  To be organised by Always Aim High, Dylan's and Gorgys events.  These organisations are very community focussed and want to put something on that everyone can enjoy.  The music will be acoustic and the event will be not finish late.  Toilets will be organised.

A lot of Craig y Don residents have suggested over the years that the park would be a good place for a low key festival, which is what is being proposed.  The Friends of the Park support the plan, but as always will listen to concerns of local residents. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 26, 2017, 08:40:59 pm
A single event, no problems but why an all year Wednesday to Sunday application?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: andyCYD on July 27, 2017, 07:48:42 am
Dave
I think this is standard practice when applying for a license.  Once issued the licensee has full responsibility for activities that take place.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2017, 09:14:23 am
Surely this is more about making money for the organisers than anything else? Or will it be free for everyone to attend?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2017, 09:38:05 am
Making money is a crime now is it?

Someone is trying to do something FUN and CREATIVE for the area, especially for young people and all you lot can do is moan.

Selfish  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2017, 09:57:18 am
Making money is a crime now is it?

Someone is trying to do something FUN and CREATIVE for the area, especially for young people and all you lot can do is moan.

Selfish  &shake&
Steady on, B2R, you're dribbling again....  :P
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2017, 11:41:02 am
Dave
I think this is standard practice when applying for a license.  Once issued the licensee has full responsibility for activities that take place.
That's the worry. They may decide it's so lucrative they turn up with a mobile bar, a burger van and a mobile disco every weekend.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 27, 2017, 11:49:23 am
Dave
I think this is standard practice when applying for a license.  Once issued the licensee has full responsibility for activities that take place.
That's the worry. They may decide it's so lucrative they turn up with a mobile bar, a burger van and a mobile disco every weekend.
I certainly agree that a degree of caution is needed with this.

Some questions:
If it's a one-off, why cannot the event be staged under a Temporary Event Notice, rather than a permanent licence?
Where will all the people visiting the event park? There could potentially be 100 or more cars trying to park in the residential streets around the park.
Why does the licence have a finishing time of 11.30pm when the event is apparently scheduled to finish at 9pm?

Surely Bodafon Farm would be a better place to stage the event?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2017, 11:52:48 am
Making money is a crime now is it?

Someone is trying to do something FUN and CREATIVE for the area, especially for young people and all you lot can do is moan.

Selfish  &shake&

There is far more for young people to do around here now than there has ever been, that moan  ;) simply doesn't wear anymore. Queens Park is a model park now too, just as they used to be in the 50's and 60's. Well maintained, a great play space for children. Once in a while fund raisers are fine but if you want regular music and drinks there are better places to hold such events which are less intrusive on the local neighbourhood and already places that offer similar facilities like Bodafon Farm.( Just noticed DaveR got in first with that one.)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2017, 12:22:27 pm
Dave
I think this is standard practice when applying for a license.  Once issued the licensee has full responsibility for activities that take place.
That's the worry. They may decide it's so lucrative they turn up with a mobile bar, a burger van and a mobile disco every weekend.

Good  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2017, 12:28:14 pm
Making money is a crime now is it?

Someone is trying to do something FUN and CREATIVE for the area, especially for young people and all you lot can do is moan.

Selfish  &shake&

There is far more for young people to do around here now than there has ever been, that moan  ;) simply doesn't wear anymore. Queens Park is a model park now too, just as they used to be in the 50's and 60's. Well maintained, a great play space for children. Once in a while fund raisers are fine but if you want regular music and drinks there are better places to hold such events which are less intrusive on the local neighbourhood and already places that offer similar facilities like Bodafon Farm.( Just noticed DaveR got in first with that one.)

Far more for young people to do now? I'm not sure which town you live in but at one time I know Llandudno had cinemas, multiple theatres, entertainment on happy valley and in the pavilion, a funfair, 10 pin bowling, a lot more pubs/nightclubs - a multitude of other things,

Now they have......a model park and Wetherspoons  D)

You can't possibly in a million, billion years ever think that young people have more to do in Llandudno now than at  anytime in the past.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2017, 01:08:53 pm
You forgot the Donkeys!!!
The places you talk about closed down because of a lack of support locally or because there are bigger or better alternatives within easy reach.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2017, 01:31:57 pm
Exactly. "Lack of support" It isn't young people's fault there isn't enough of them!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2017, 01:46:46 pm
It would make an interesting topic comparing what is available to young people today compared to days gone past but this isn't the right thread.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2017, 01:54:00 pm
It would make an interesting topic comparing what is available to young people today compared to days gone past but this isn't the right thread.

I do't like to sound negative. There is a lot of exciting things people are working really hard on (this topic is one of those things) there is also the brilliant Great Orme Brewery - Llandudno music festival (the weekend after next) and TVWales stock on the prom for the August bank holiday.

Let's hope locals go out and support these initiatives.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 27, 2017, 02:01:39 pm
When I was younger we complained of having nothing to do but there were outdoor Lidos, skating rinks, playing fields and the beaches as well as Cinemas and we made the most of what we did have.
Nowadays perhaps the young people are more interested in computers and phones and spend more time indoors than we did.

When I was in a pub a couple of weeks ago there were only four people there but then six young people came in together and after ordering the drinks they all without exception got their mobile phones out and began  using them and didn't bother talking to each other.
So sad to see, but perhaps a sign of the times.    &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2017, 03:20:17 pm
I think you've got it the wrong way round Hugo. I think YP are on their mobile phones and computers more these days BECAUSE there is nothing to do.

I was out in Liverpool a few weeks back and I didn't see any of the youngsters there staring at their phones because they were in a brilliant place having fun.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 27, 2017, 03:40:16 pm
When I was younger we complained of having nothing to do but there were outdoor Lidos, skating rinks, playing fields and the beaches as well as Cinemas and we made the most of what we did have.
Nowadays perhaps the young people are more interested in computers and phones and spend more time indoors than we did.

When I was in a pub a couple of weeks ago there were only four people there but then six young people came in together and after ordering the drinks they all without exception got their mobile phones out and began  using them and didn't bother talking to each other.
So sad to see, but perhaps a sign of the times.    &shake&

We have had people sit down for breakfast complete with tablets/mobiles and we have had to actually ask them to move them to be able to place the ( very hot) plates of food on the table. One day I shall see if a tablet makes a good table mat ! :-X :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 27, 2017, 03:55:45 pm
You could be right BTR  but it's still sad to see young people going out and not even talking to each other when they have gone out together.
They could do the mobile phone stuff at home and go outdoors a bit more.


PS    I've just read Nemesis' posting and it made me laugh as it reminded me of the pub I was in when I saw the six youngsters on their phones.
How sad to see such an addictive habit
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 27, 2017, 04:10:41 pm
You could be right BTR  but it's still sad to see young people going out and not even talking to each other when they have gone out together.
They could do the mobile phone stuff at home and go outdoors a bit more.


PS    I've just read Nemesis' posting and it made me laugh as it reminded me of the pub I was in when I saw the six youngsters on their phones.
How sad to see such an addictive habit

That's what it is a habit, it's just hard to get out of the mindset - plus the things go off constantly every time anybody does anything you have to be notified through facebook etc. I've even got a watch now that vibrates every time I get a notification on anything.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2017, 04:51:17 pm
Maybe that's what Llandudno needs, more free wifi access points.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on July 27, 2017, 06:07:46 pm
I have got to ask Born2 Run, are you in any way connected with any of the promoters of this application .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2017, 07:17:40 pm
Apparently the application for the CYD park has been rejected as of yesterday. $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 28, 2017, 06:33:47 am
It is still live on the CCBC website this morning.

http://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Business/Licenses-and-Permits/Assets/documents/Daily-Weekly-Licenses/Gorjys-Events-Ltd.-Craig-Y-Don-Park-Queens-Road-Llandudno-21.07.17.pdf (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Business/Licenses-and-Permits/Assets/documents/Daily-Weekly-Licenses/Gorjys-Events-Ltd.-Craig-Y-Don-Park-Queens-Road-Llandudno-21.07.17.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 06:42:16 am
Information about it's rejection came from Janet Finch-Saunders as posted on Facebook.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 28, 2017, 07:15:43 am
There has not been a licencing sub-committee meeting since the application was submitted.

http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/mgCalendarMonthView.aspx?GL=1&bcr=1 (http://modgoveng.conwy.gov.uk/mgCalendarMonthView.aspx?GL=1&bcr=1)

I guess it must have been withdrawn.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2017, 08:22:51 am
I have got to ask Born2 Run, are you in any way connected with any of the promoters of this application .

Nope I just like to see a future being created for this town. I see it's been rejected, oh well at least there's still plenty for the over 80s to do. $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2017, 08:35:58 am
oh well at least there's still plenty for the over 80s to do. $good$
You'll be alright then, mate  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 08:37:14 am
 $donald$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 28, 2017, 08:49:46 am
I know what you're saying, B2R, but there's a lot the kids can do and, in general, do in a far safer environment than many places. In many cities, for example, the kids play tick with bricks and it's not easy for youngsters to do a lot outdoors, even if their outdoors were enticing, which many aren't. Now, I don't deny they need some leadership, which is the job of parents, but there are also a lot of opportunities for youngsters with local organisations, such as Scouts, Guides, Llandudno Youth Theatre, Churches and youth clubs.

But if we take a quick look at what they can do relatively safely in Llandudno, it includes

Swimming
Cricket
Tennis
Football
Sailing
Climbing
Walking
Photography
Skate boarding

and then the indoor pursuits include

Table Tennis
Roller skating
All manner of games
Snooker
Billiards

and a lot more I've not listed.  Youngsters need leading, challenging, engaging, teaching and encouraging. Moreover, they need to be in socially conducive situations, which is what youth clubs, Uniformed organisations and churches provide, although I accept some are better at encouraging youngsters than others. If there is validity in your observations, I suspect it lies with the churches.

The Methodist churches in particular originated with the idea that people from any social class would enjoy social events, and that's how they came into being. I don't know how well the current St John's continues that great tradition but in general the church buildings in Llandudno, which could provide so much for youngsters, seem remarkably free of them. 

Perhaps the various Church leaders should be openly challenged to say what they're doing to work with and for the youngsters of Llandudno?




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 09:56:47 am
Interesting that Gorjys Events has connections with Johnny Doughs ( as well as a few other local businesses including Great Orme Brewery, Albion Pub) via Directorships.
Johnny Dough's spokesman was critical of the Llandudno Extravagannza saying that it was time it was scrapped as it was ruining local businesses, their takings were down £4k as a result of competition from burger vans etc. ( Daily Post report).He also stated it was time for a new 21st century event ( yes that's what I was thinking too)
Gorjys Events has links to a company called Task Accounting ,( they share the same address), who in turn have a director also on the board of Skinny Grill Ltd, mobile burger vans.
Wonder who gets or maybe who doesn't get the catering concessions at the Extravagannza.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2017, 10:00:40 am
Gorjys organising the extravaganza now are they?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2017, 10:03:00 am
I know what you're saying, B2R, but there's a lot the kids can do and, in general, do in a far safer environment than many places. In many cities, for example, the kids play tick with bricks and it's not easy for youngsters to do a lot outdoors, even if their outdoors were enticing, which many aren't. Now, I don't deny they need some leadership, which is the job of parents, but there are also a lot of opportunities for youngsters with local organisations, such as Scouts, Guides, Llandudno Youth Theatre, Churches and youth clubs.

But if we take a quick look at what they can do relatively safely in Llandudno, it includes

Swimming
Cricket
Tennis
Football
Sailing
Climbing
Walking
Photography
Skate boarding

and then the indoor pursuits include

Table Tennis
Roller skating
All manner of games
Snooker
Billiards

and a lot more I've not listed.  Youngsters need leading, challenging, engaging, teaching and encouraging. Moreover, they need to be in socially conducive situations, which is what youth clubs, Uniformed organisations and churches provide, although I accept some are better at encouraging youngsters than others. If there is validity in your observations, I suspect it lies with the churches.

The Methodist churches in particular originated with the idea that people from any social class would enjoy social events, and that's how they came into being. I don't know how well the current St John's continues that great tradition but in general the church buildings in Llandudno, which could provide so much for youngsters, seem remarkably free of them. 

Perhaps the various Church leaders should be openly challenged to say what they're doing to work with and for the youngsters of Llandudno?

There is loads for younger kids to do, and the churches do a lot. They have messy play sessions a lot, almost every day and organise lots of other events and trips etc. All of the church leaders I know are very much in tune with what you are saying. However I'm talking about older kids 16-21 who want somewhere decent to go without having to go to Chester or Liverpool and there isn't enough for them here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 10:06:12 am
Gorjys organising the extravaganza now are they?
I didn't say that, I said that there is a director of Gorjys who is on the board of Johnny Dough's. Johnny Dough's other director suggested that the Extravaganza should be scrapped and replaced with a more appropriate event.
Read in to that what you like.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 10:12:44 am
It would make an interesting topic comparing what is available to young people today compared to days gone past but this isn't the right thread.

I do't like to sound negative. There is a lot of exciting things people are working really hard on (this topic is one of those things) there is also the brilliant Great Orme Brewery - Llandudno music festival (the weekend after next) and TVWales stock on the prom for the August bank holiday.

Let's hope locals go out and support these initiatives.

A 21st century initiative perhaps?

What happened to the Music Festival planned for the Water Ski Conwy Valley that was suddenly cancelled because of the supposedly bad weather that never arrived. Who was running that then ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 10:19:04 am
I think you've got it the wrong way round Hugo. I think YP are on their mobile phones and computers more these days BECAUSE there is nothing to do.

I was out in Liverpool a few weeks back and I didn't see any of the youngsters there staring at their phones because they were in a brilliant place having fun.

I'm curious as to what youngsters in Liverpool were doing having fun, perhaps that might help us remedy the shortcomings in Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2017, 10:23:09 am
I think you've got it the wrong way round Hugo. I think YP are on their mobile phones and computers more these days BECAUSE there is nothing to do.

I was out in Liverpool a few weeks back and I didn't see any of the youngsters there staring at their phones because they were in a brilliant place having fun.

I'm curious as to what youngsters in Liverpool were doing having fun, perhaps that might help us remedy the shortcomings in Llandudno.

Live music, loud music, all day long and food and drinks prices that don't break the bank (or student loan)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2017, 10:25:08 am
Gorjys organising the extravaganza now are they?
I didn't say that, I said that there is a director of Gorjys who is on the board of Johnny Dough's. Johnny Dough's other director suggested that the Extravaganza should be scrapped and replaced with a more appropriate event.
Read in to that what you like.

"Wonder who gets or maybe who doesn't get the catering concessions at the Extravagannza."

Why would they get concessions at the extravaganza?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 28, 2017, 10:25:44 am
I know what you're saying, B2R, but there's a lot the kids can do and, in general, do in a far safer environment than many places. In many cities, for example, the kids play tick with bricks and it's not easy for youngsters to do a lot outdoors, e

There is loads for younger kids to do, and the churches do a lot. They have messy play sessions a lot, almost every day and organise lots of other events and trips etc. All of the church leaders I know are very much in tune with what you are saying. However I'm talking about older kids 16-21 who want somewhere decent to go without having to go to Chester or Liverpool and there isn't enough for them here.

So what you're describing, if I'm right, is a shortage of night clubs?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 10:44:13 am
I think you've got it the wrong way round Hugo. I think YP are on their mobile phones and computers more these days BECAUSE there is nothing to do.

I was out in Liverpool a few weeks back and I didn't see any of the youngsters there staring at their phones because they were in a brilliant place having fun.

I'm curious as to what youngsters in Liverpool were doing having fun, perhaps that might help us remedy the shortcomings in Llandudno.

Live music, loud music, all day long and food and drinks prices that don't break the bank (or student loan)

You can't compare a city centre environment to a small town's ability to absorb noise, particularly in a residential neighbourhood like Craig-y-Don. You won't find that sort of event going on regularly in Liverpool's suburbs.
As for food and drink Subway,McDonalds et al have consistent pricing across all their outlets. You can get a cheap pint in Llandudno too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2017, 10:53:27 am
I know what you're saying, B2R, but there's a lot the kids can do and, in general, do in a far safer environment than many places. In many cities, for example, the kids play tick with bricks and it's not easy for youngsters to do a lot outdoors, e

There is loads for younger kids to do, and the churches do a lot. They have messy play sessions a lot, almost every day and organise lots of other events and trips etc. All of the church leaders I know are very much in tune with what you are saying. However I'm talking about older kids 16-21 who want somewhere decent to go without having to go to Chester or Liverpool and there isn't enough for them here.

So what you're describing, if I'm right, is a shortage of night clubs?

Pubs and nightclubs that are fun for young people. We haven't got any.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 28, 2017, 10:56:57 am
I suspect that a built-in assumption that the only venues where teenagers and adults can 'have fun' are night clubs and pubs is missing something.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on July 28, 2017, 11:07:22 am
Pubs and nightclubs that are fun for young people. We haven't got any.
Your belief that activities for 'young people' must revolve around alcohol consumption is a bit worrying! Perhaps things have changed since you were young, B2R - I understand it was quite a long time ago...  :laugh:

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2017, 11:39:08 am
Pubs and nightclubs that are fun for young people. We haven't got any.
Your belief that activities for 'young people' must revolve around alcohol consumption is a bit worrying! Perhaps things have changed since you were young, B2R - I understand it was quite a long time ago...  :laugh:

I think you'll find most young people still drink a fair bit. The problem is they do it at home these days as most pubs/clubs are either too expensive or don't interest them. Thus most pubs now try and attract the older market with disposable income, which sadly I now fall into  Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 02:34:48 pm
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/bid-sell-booze-play-music-13398332#comments-section (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/bid-sell-booze-play-music-13398332#comments-section)


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 28, 2017, 03:27:44 pm
Gorjys organising the extravaganza now are they?
I didn't say that, I said that there is a director of Gorjys who is on the board of Johnny Dough's. Johnny Dough's other director suggested that the Extravaganza should be scrapped and replaced with a more appropriate event.
Read in to that what you like.

Board of Directors?   Johnny Dough's is a one man business!?!?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 03:31:41 pm
If this has really been about one single event( which I don't think most would object to) why, as previously mentioned, not apply for a single event licence.
If the purpose is to cut down admin, which I'm all in favour of, and have it covers the other established events, why not apply for a licence that allows up to four one day events a year? Why have Wednesdays through to Sundays all year written in to the licence? Is it any wonder that local residents smell a rat!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2017, 03:33:35 pm
Gorjys organising the extravaganza now are they?
I didn't say that, I said that there is a director of Gorjys who is on the board of Johnny Dough's. Johnny Dough's other director suggested that the Extravaganza should be scrapped and replaced with a more appropriate event.
Read in to that what you like.

Board of Directors?   Johnny Dough's is a one man business!?!?

Really?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10135429/officers
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 28, 2017, 03:44:06 pm
Yeah, it is really.
I'm assuming that the other guy is a silent partner, to help with the set up, funding.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on July 28, 2017, 03:45:48 pm
Yeah, it is really.
I'm assuming that the other guy is a silent partner, to help with the set up, funding.

The other guy owns and runs the Great Orme Brewery.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 02, 2017, 01:45:42 pm
Conwy county dog fines highest in Wales.

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/home/2017/08/02/gallery/hundreds-turned-out-to-a-public-meeting-to-discuss-their-concerns-over-the-enforcement-procedures-carried-out-by-a-security-firm-91991/ (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/home/2017/08/02/gallery/hundreds-turned-out-to-a-public-meeting-to-discuss-their-concerns-over-the-enforcement-procedures-carried-out-by-a-security-firm-91991/)

Conwy dog walkers hit with 1300% more fines than anywhere else in Wales
Critics say numbers are evidence of 'overzealous' approach, but council chiefs say dog walkers have duty to control their animals.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-dogs-off-lead-fines-13419324 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-dogs-off-lead-fines-13419324)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 02, 2017, 04:05:10 pm
Wilko in Llandudno opening on October 11 in Mostyn Champneys and apparently the Office Outlet is going to become a carpet store.

Also, application in for micropub on Madoc St in former cake shop Let Them Eat Cake.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 07, 2017, 07:31:37 pm
5.30am today, and this noisy lot are having an early breakfast outside my house..
Which means, nobody sleeps!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 07, 2017, 09:21:17 pm
Should have counted them !!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on August 07, 2017, 09:39:53 pm
Do what we do on Mull.
Just let the dog out of the front door.
Problem solved for a few hours and the dog has her morning run.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on August 08, 2017, 09:37:51 am
I can prepare the mint sauce!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on August 08, 2017, 01:00:11 pm
5.30am today, and this noisy lot are having an early breakfast outside my house..
Which means, nobody sleeps!

Time to buy lots of mint sauce?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 08, 2017, 03:56:21 pm
Very busy on the roads at around 1100, today.  Heavy traffic, even by holiday standards.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 09, 2017, 07:45:28 am
I love Llandudno in the summer, can think of few places in the UK better to live. That said, traffic issues are a severe gripe of mine. Not sure if it's worse this year because of so much traffic trying to get to Parc Llandudno for Primark or if the town is just more popular.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 09, 2017, 10:46:00 am
???  Ive never seen it more quiet, considering it's the six week holidays. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 09, 2017, 11:28:51 am
It's certainly  busier than last year, according to the folk I've spoken to who run the Road train, the coaches, the big hotels and the TIC. That's in spite of the 'orrible weather.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 09, 2017, 05:21:12 pm
That's completely at odds with everyone I speak to.
Those being, pier concessions, boat trip owners, pub managers, 2 shopkeepers and the cable car owners.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 09, 2017, 07:46:10 pm
Looks like the crowds are avoiding the pier, boat trips, pubs, 2 specific shops and the cable car owners and instead riding the road train, the Orme coach, staying at the hotels and crowding into the TIC.

 I do suspect the weather's stopped a lot taking boat trips and strolling on the pier. And it may also have affected the cable car. But then, you do tend to pop in every summer and tell everyone it's never been so quiet...  8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 09, 2017, 09:24:32 pm
I tend to try and avoid the town centre during the summer, but the few times that I have ventured there I have found that the people seem to be in groups, filling the pavements and 'taking no prisoners'. Have manners been dispensed with?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 09, 2017, 09:35:32 pm
Yes Ian, I do, and I'm watching it with my own eyes!
I forgot to add, the Punch and Judy man is in full agreement with me.
About 6 pier shops have remained empty this year, totally unheard of in the past, but that might have been more to do with the rents.
But... it's really about 2 other things, people are spending less, and Llandudno is attracting the TYPE of people who spend less.  Mr Punch has spotted this phenomena more than most.

You will find, if you choose to investigate the facts for yourself, that Llandudno is busy for a four hour segment of each day.  Noon til 4pm approximately. Then it's a ghost town either side of it.

On a weekend, that expands til approximately 6pm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 10, 2017, 08:00:27 am
You will find, if you choose to investigate the facts for yourself, that Llandudno is busy for a four hour segment of each day.  Noon til 4pm approximately. Then it's a ghost town either side of it.

Well, that's not our experience Fester.  In fact, I've noticed how much busier it's become first thing when - owing to M & S opening later than they did - it used to be rather quiet.  But we've had this debate before and until we get concrete evidence one way or the other we'll have to agree to differ.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 10, 2017, 11:34:42 am
Back to the proposed event and planning application for Queens Park, Craig-y-Don.

The application is still very much alive and needs as much support as possible to stop it happening.
A meeting on behalf of residents was held in the Craig-y-Don community centre last night were local residents could put forwards their objections wasn't well publicised and unfortunately I missed it. On Friday a meeting were businesses will put forward their reasons to why they think it should go ahead will be held at Dylans restaurant at 4.00pm this coming Friday 11/08/17. I shall attend that with interest.

Despite objections there is probably still apathy in putting pen to paper but there is an alternative, you can email the licensing department. The address is:-  licensing@conwy.gov.uk

You can copy and paste this if it helps:-

Dear Sir/Madam,
An application to grant a licence to hold events throughout the year from Wednesdays through to Sundays and from 10.00am to 11.30 pm has been posted in Craig-y-Don’s Queens Park. The application requests permission to sell food, alcohol and play both recorded and live music.
In what is primarily a residential area I object strongly to the permission being granted for a variety of reasons. Noise,public order, litter, vandalism and parking concerns being amongst them.
There are far more appropriate places for such events to be held. Craig-yDon’s park isn’t one of them.
There is no justification for granting this licence which is a blatant attempt at commercial gain and little to do with putting something back in to the community.
Yours sincerely

but you need to give your full name and address and a phone number too so it can be authenticated.

Just one minute of your time if you don't your neighbourhood being intruded by this unnecessary disturbance. Don't for one minute think it will stop at a single event, if it's a commercial success...and the aim is to get 1000 people or more.... there will be more to follow. What is now seen as a beautiful park could soon become the platform for all sorts of events.
Please don't let that happen.

You have until the 20th August to object but don't wait..go for it now!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 10, 2017, 12:38:09 pm
Few suggested edits  $good$


Back to the proposed event and planning application for Queens Park, Craig-y-Don.

The application is still very much alive and needs as much support as possible to stop it happening.
A meeting on behalf of residents was held in the Craig-y-Don community centre last night were local residents could put forwards their objections wasn't well publicised and unfortunately I missed it. On Friday a meeting were businesses will put forward their reasons to why they think it should go ahead will be held at Dylans restaurant at 4.00pm this coming Friday 11/08/17. I shall attend that with interest.

Despite objections there is probably still apathy in putting pen to paper but there is an alternative, you can email the licensing department. The address is:-  licensing@conwy.gov.uk

You can copy and paste this if it helps:-

Dear Sir/Madam,
An application to grant a licence to hold events throughout the year from Wednesdays through to Sundays and from 10.00am to 11.30 pm has been posted in Craig-y-Don’s Queens Park. The application requests permission to sell food, alcohol and play both recorded and live music.

"Their plan is very sensitive to local residents, with only acoustic music being planned and the day wrapping up by 9pm.

In what is primarily a residential area I object strongly to the permission being granted for a variety of reasons. Noise,public order, litter, vandalism and parking concerns being amongst them.
There are far more appropriate places for such events to be held. Craig-yDon’s park isn’t one of them.
There is no justification for granting this licence which is a blatant attempt at commercial gain and little to do with putting something back in to the community.

"The Friends of the Park have always asked the local community what they would like to see happen in the park. A music festival has consistently been a suggestion.
Yours sincerely



but you need to give your full name and address and a phone number too so it can be authenticated.

Just one minute of your time if you don't your neighbourhood being intruded by this unnecessary disturbance. Don't for one minute think it will stop at a single event, if it's a commercial success...and the aim is to get 1000 people or more.... there will be more to follow

"Also, it is very clear from their professionalism that the park will be fully protected throughout and will be returned to its pristine state after the event.”"

. What is now seen as a beautiful park could soon become the platform for all sorts of events.
Please don't let that happen.

The Friends of Queens Park in Craig y Don have reassured residents that the application for a premises licence by Gorjys Events is only intended to allow for a one-day music and food festival.

You have until the 20th August to object but don't wait..go for it now!
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"“We are aware that the license notices posted around the park give the impression of a bigger event and we understand why people may have some concerns,” he said.

“We hope that now they understand what is actually being planned and that they will be able to offer their support.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 10, 2017, 12:50:35 pm
What might seem a united front by the "Friends of the Park" isn't in actual fact accurate from what i can gather.
Chairman Andy Brazier's  comments to the press were his opinions and not the committees it seems.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/bid-sell-booze-play-music-13398332#ICID=IYA (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/bid-sell-booze-play-music-13398332#ICID=IYA)

In the press release/interview he said that the application was primarily for an event called Slam in the Park.

It won't stop there, once permission is granted it's open season.
We are all allowed our opinions of course but mine is obviously strongly opposed.
Let the majority decide, it's their neighbourhood but as I warned, apathy won't be a valid excuse to complain later when you realise what is happening.

PS The park can't be restored to it's pristine state if trees are damaged and flowers are trampled.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 10, 2017, 04:32:59 pm
Campaign to stop 'nuisance' Food Slam at Llandudno park going ahead

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/campaign-stop-nuisance-food-slam-13459620 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/campaign-stop-nuisance-food-slam-13459620)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 10, 2017, 04:55:11 pm
"A public meeting is to be held over concerns a food and music event could cause “crime and disorder” and “vandalism”."

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 10, 2017, 05:03:31 pm
2 comments from Facebook about the Food Slam.

Have any of these complaining rrsidents ever been to a food slam event??? I live in menai bridge which holds one regularly as well as the seafood festival.....these are great events and every effoet is made ti ensure litter is at a minimum, while providing many events, things to do and various food from many different outlets and businesses (so its not just Dylans using ur park to make money, it benefits many businesses)...many local that many wont have even heard of........embrace it........no wonder nobody wants to do anything in this area when people just complain...

It's always the same when people move into the area to retire they force the younger generation to move out so they can have a quiet live
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 10, 2017, 05:47:55 pm
You miss the point Fester. This isn't just about a Food Slam event, there is no reason to apply for a 12 month 5 day licence if that was all that was intended.Why wasn't a single day application within the frame of supposed timeframe of the Slam event made in the first place? Perhaps that would have been seen as more acceptable.
As for people moving to to the area for their retirement and forcing young people out, I hold my hand up and admit to being of pensionable age but I have lived in Craig-y-Don for over 30 years and would have objected to the use of the park for a multitude of events when I was younger too. The park used to have public toilets but they were closed and later demolished when they were being frequented by underage drinkers, glue sniffers and a multitude of other undesirables. That's why a ban on drinking in the park was introduced. Only in the last year or two Blind Veterans found it necessary at some cost to erect a wooden 6 foot fence alongside their grounds the length of Fferm Bach Rd to prevent those who were now drinking, sniffing,injecting and defecating in and around the bushes there instead. We already find litter from the fast food take ways not only in CYD's streets but all along the A470 out of town. It's my belief that undesirable behaviour would become an issue if alcohol consumption was legitimised, encouraged even, once again.
Now, if Menai Bridge want to play host to any kind of event that's fine and I wouldn't have any thoughts about stopping them doing so but we are talking about a park in CYD and it's up top the local residents to decide what they want. Simple as that. All very well slamming every CYD resident as being in God's waiting room but if that's the case so be it.They are the local community.
I think born2run has made his case for loud music and alcohol as being the missing ingredient for what's on offer for Llandudno's youth ( 16-21 years apparently) but some of us think it shouldn't be in Queen's Park.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Giggly girl on August 10, 2017, 07:14:09 pm
I would like to take this opportunity to thank the people who turned a park we could not take our children to because of all the problems caused by various types who drank and smashed bottles, took drugs, used it as a toilet.  These people who are volunteers worked very hard to transform this park raising a lot of money and working for 1,000`s of hours into somewhere where it is a delight for all ages to enjoy safely.   Dylans and the like would not be interested in this venue if it is as it was  before the volunteers came together.

 I cannot understand why a one off licence for the day cannot be applied for if they really need to sell alcohol.  The trouble with alcohol is that somehow folk feel so uninhibited as to create a greater mess than they would when sober.  I feel a bit sorry for Dylan`s they really do not seem to understand that this area is different from Menai Bridge and Criccieth in its attitude to partying.  They may have to reap a whirlwind if they go ahead with this.    If I was them I would hold it at Bodafon Farm Park, now they used to have a lot of trouble from residents in the area which thankfully has abated now.  It is further away and you can make noise without upsetting too many folk.  Parking is better too.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 11, 2017, 08:17:01 am
I don't know the history of Craig-y-Don park but having been to food slams in Menai Bridge, I think some of the fears of residents are overblown. This is the sort of event we should be welcoming. Having said that, lack of toilet facilities would be an issue.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2017, 08:35:57 am
I don't know the history of Craig-y-Don park but having been to food slams in Menai Bridge, I think some of the fears of residents are overblown. This is the sort of event we should be welcoming. Having said that, lack of toilet facilities would be an issue.

Portaloos Tom don't worry. It's going to be bad enough with all the young folk running around off their heads vandalising everything in site and committing  "crime and disorder" without having to worry about where to spend a penny as well. ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 11, 2017, 08:51:18 am
I can't tell if you're being serious born2run? Why does everyone seem to think this will lead to vandalising? It hasn't anywhere else.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2017, 08:54:30 am
I can't tell if you're being serious born2run? Why does everyone seem to think this will lead to vandalising? It hasn't anywhere else.

Deadly serious Tom, I've heard this is going to be the next Woodstock. People off their heads and naked everywhere and 100,000 delinquents descending on Craig Y Don park. WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2017, 09:03:11 am
  It's my belief that undesirable behaviour would become an issue if alcohol consumption was legitimised, encouraged even, once again.


2+2= 456788

Fester and I had a drink  Z** (many)
In a tent on Conwy Quay last year for their food festival.

That tent isn't there any more but I've never felt the need to turn up in the empty space, crack open a bottle of Jack Daniels and smash the place up, nor has anybody else in the world and nor would they. Why do you think your park is any different? It's a lovely park and I appreciate volunteers work hard on it,  but I think a lot of you are blowing the whole thing way out of proportion. I think they'd be less objections if Bez from the Happy Mondays applied for a licence to host an acid festival in the Vatican City.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 11, 2017, 09:09:15 am
Tom, had you attended the public meeting in CyD Community Centre on Wednesday evening, I feel you would currently have a different opinion.

Have you thought about asking the organisers why they have not considered Bodafon Fields in CyD for their event and if so, why did they discount it?

I am fairly neutral on the subject but during the 36 years I have lived in CyD, I have seen many successful events held on Bodafon Fields including many Llandudno Carnivals, Donkey Derbies, Transport Festivals, Caravan Club Rallies and Jazz Festivals to name but a few.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 09:27:07 am
and once again the focus has gone away from the main issue.

Why apply for a 5 day all year round licence ?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 11, 2017, 09:44:30 am
I can't tell if you're being serious born2run? Why does everyone seem to think this will lead to vandalising? It hasn't anywhere else.

Deadly serious Tom, I've heard this is going to be the next Woodstock. People off their heads and naked everywhere and 100,000 delinquents descending on Craig Y Don park. WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN  &shake&

Now we know he's not being serious.   _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2017, 10:01:54 am
and once again the focus has gone away from the main issue.

Why apply for a 5 day all year round licence ?

Some FAQs

Do you think they are going to have a beer tent there 5 days a year all year round?

No because it would get broken into

Do you think they are going to build a permanent pub there?

No because they wouldn't get planning permission

Do you think if they did sell beer there 5 days a year all year round they'd make any money?

nope, because it would be dead like all the other pubs in town
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 10:14:26 am
and once again the focus has gone away from the main issue.

Why apply for a 5 day all year round licence ?

Some FAQs

Do you think they are going to have a beer tent there 5 days a year all year round?

No because it would get broken into

Do you think they are going to build a permanent pub there?

No because they wouldn't get planning permission

Do you think if they did sell beer there 5 days a year all year round they'd make any money?

nope, because it would be dead like all the other pubs in town

Lets keep the debate sensible, incidentally where do you live?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 11, 2017, 10:21:19 am
I can't tell if you're being serious born2run? Why does everyone seem to think this will lead to vandalising? It hasn't anywhere else.

Deadly serious Tom, I've heard this is going to be the next Woodstock. People off their heads and naked everywhere and 100,000 delinquents descending on Craig Y Don park. WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN  &shake&

Naked Eh?   When do the tickets go on sale?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2017, 10:26:32 am
and once again the focus has gone away from the main issue.

Why apply for a 5 day all year round licence ?

Some FAQs

Do you think they are going to have a beer tent there 5 days a year all year round?

No because it would get broken into

Do you think they are going to build a permanent pub there?

No because they wouldn't get planning permission

Do you think if they did sell beer there 5 days a year all year round they'd make any money?

nope, because it would be dead like all the other pubs in town

Lets keep the debate sensible, incidentally where do you live?

Not far away and I'm also a member of the croquet club across the road, so like you, it's not my desire to see lots of rampaging youths off their head on substances either as they may spoil our lawn.

Also why are my points not sensible? You asked why they applied for a 5 day licence all year round and I told you why they would have neither intention or ability to host this event for more than one day, but still you won't listen to reason.

I would imagine the reason they applied for said licence is flexibility.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 11, 2017, 10:32:17 am
Sarcasm and stupid comments are really not what this discussion needs; it trivialises and shows contempt for the real and justified concerns of local council tax paying residents and those volunteers who maintain the park. The event in Menai Bridge is held in a retail area, not in a volunteer maintained park.

The park would be mangled by a food slam, purely by the attendee numbers, let alone the rubbish and the commercial food units trails. Having seen these events in parks, I can categorically say that it takes at least twelve months for the parks to recover.

I have to ask the obvious question - why not hold it on the prom?   

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2017, 10:56:30 am
Sarcasm and stupid comments are really not what this discussion needs; it trivialises and shows contempt for the real and justified concerns of local council tax paying residents and those volunteers who maintain the park. The event in Menai Bridge is held in a retail area, not in a volunteer maintained park.

The park would be mangled by a food slam, purely by the attendee numbers, let alone the rubbish and the commercial food units trails. Having seen these events in parks, I can categorically say that it takes at least twelve months for the parks to recover.

I have to ask the obvious question - why not hold it on the prom?

No food and drinks are allowed to be sold on the prom because of council regulations.

That was quick  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 10:58:45 am
If we are talking the Food Slam why not on the prom? Right opposite Dylan's to give them maximum publicity for the event would make good sense.Currently there is a ban on alcohol in CYD park as well as the prom.They just need to change the licence application.

You don't need a 5 day year round licence to give maximum flexibility for one Food Slam event. It has to be a plan for more of the same or similar. The big concern is that the park becomes utilised on a regular basis for commercial gain and not necessarily for the benefit for the local community.
The low key events that have previously taken place have been to raise money for the upkeep and improvement of the park. Why the need to suddenly increase the profile when it's not necessary is the concern of local residents.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 11:12:35 am
I think the points made by Bosun are extremely valid ones too. Queens Park is extremely sensitive to flooding. The park could be easily turned into a quagmire with heavy trailers being towed out after unexpected rain. I have been to a few hundreds outdoor events and seen it happen all too often, it takes the ground many months to recover rendering it unfit for use in the meantime.
What then for the local community?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2017, 11:19:15 am
If we are talking the Food Slam why not on the prom? Right opposite Dylan's to give them maximum publicity for the event would make good sense.Currently there is a ban on alcohol in CYD park as well as the prom.They just need to change the licence application.

You don't need a 5 day year round licence to give maximum flexibility for one Food Slam event. It has to be a plan for more of the same or similar. The big concern is that the park becomes utilised on a regular basis for commercial gain and not necessarily for the benefit for the local community.
The low key events that have previously taken place have been to raise money for the upkeep and improvement of the park. Why the need to suddenly increase the profile when it's not necessary is the concern of local residents.

I just said - no food and drink is allowed to be sold on the prom. Wouldn't be much of a food festival would it?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 11, 2017, 11:26:45 am
If we are talking the Food Slam why not on the prom? Right opposite Dylan's to give them maximum publicity for the event would make good sense.Currently there is a ban on alcohol in CYD park as well as the prom.They just need to change the licence application.

You don't need a 5 day year round licence to give maximum flexibility for one Food Slam event. It has to be a plan for more of the same or similar. The big concern is that the park becomes utilised on a regular basis for commercial gain and not necessarily for the benefit for the local community.
The low key events that have previously taken place have been to raise money for the upkeep and improvement of the park. Why the need to suddenly increase the profile when it's not necessary is the concern of local residents.

I just said - no food and drink is allowed to be sold on the prom. Wouldn't be much of a food festival would it?

Good for the waistline though.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 01:14:09 pm
The notice in the park now reads that a planned event, "Storm the Orme" is planned for the 7th October finishing at 10.00pm. You can't get more specific than that if a single event is being applied for.
Not sure what part of that is a food festival, we'll wait and see.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 11, 2017, 02:36:27 pm
The notice in the park now reads that a planned event, "Storm the Orme" is planned for the 7th October finishing at 10.00pm. You can't get more specific than that if a single event is being applied for.
Not sure what part of that is a food festival, we'll wait and see.

"But Andy Brazier, chairman of the Friends of Queens Park, said the application is primarily for an event called Food Slam, which will involve a running race to the Great Orme and a variety of musical entertainment."

Don't panic though....I'm sure they are not literally going to "storm the orme"  ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 11, 2017, 02:39:54 pm
Dave, I cannot see hundreds of athletes changing in the park.

Competitors of running events normally change in the swimming centre, Venue Cymru arena or in hotels on the promenade.

I truly cannot see Dylans handing over the Washington for the whole day as a communal changing room.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 11, 2017, 03:53:22 pm
If we are talking the Food Slam why not on the prom? Right opposite Dylan's to give them maximum publicity for the event would make good sense.Currently there is a ban on alcohol in CYD park as well as the prom.They just need to change the licence application.

You don't need a 5 day year round licence to give maximum flexibility for one Food Slam event. It has to be a plan for more of the same or similar. The big concern is that the park becomes utilised on a regular basis for commercial gain and not necessarily for the benefit for the local community.
The low key events that have previously taken place have been to raise money for the upkeep and improvement of the park. Why the need to suddenly increase the profile when it's not necessary is the concern of local residents.

I just said - no food and drink is allowed to be sold on the prom. Wouldn't be much of a food festival would it?

I wonder why not.... surely it couldn't be because they don't what the litter and rubbish that go with food and drink stalls could it....?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 05:50:19 pm
The meeting this afternoon was very well attended with standing room only. There were few if any people appearing to support the idea and very quickly Mr David Evans of Dylan's realised that the whole concept was dead in the ground as far as local support was concerned. He gave an honest appraisal of their situation and the concerns that he had already voiced to other businesses that were potentially involved some time ago. He was quick to say that Dylan's were no longer interested in being part of any event in Queen's Park as he respected the views of local residents that it was not an appropriate venue but was hopeful that at a future date something on similar lines could happen on Bodafon Fields but that would now be next year.That suggestion was very well received although there were concerns for Bodafon Farm and the vulnerability of children with special needs at the local school. He stressed that there would be full and proper consultation this time and I think he came out of the meeting with much credit in my opinion.
He passed the opportunity to the representative of Gorjys Events to explain the motives behind the application being for 5 days etc etc  but she basically failed to do so other than to say it had been about flexibility but she was under the impression that the application had recently been altered to a specific date, namely 7th October. This is not true and it beggars belief that she could think differently. Unless I misunderstood she also suggested that the the CEO of Gorjys had refused to change the application from an open ended one to a specific date despite growing opposition a good while ago.
So as we returned through the park someone from Dylan's was removing the notices about the event on the 7th October so that is the first victory.
Gorjys are still lurking in the background and if they haven't got the message that CYD park isn't the place for their commercial ventures they are either stupid or arrogant beyond belief.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2017, 05:55:14 pm
And as an aside the meeting started with a short film showing people eating and drinking and generally having a good time. No evidence of bad behaviour as you would expect from such an event.
What was telling though was that the event was held on hardstanding. On 7th October CYD park is highly likely to be very wet underfoot.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 12, 2017, 09:58:19 am
Mr David Evans of Dylan's time might be better spent getting Dylan's restaurant itself up to an acceptable level. Most of our chums have been there and I've yet to hear a comment better than 'average', some have been very critical indeed, certainly nothing to entice us to visit. I'm getting the impression that the management are not actually bothered as long as they are getting the through-put; the fact that most of their local customers would not return or recommend Dylan's seems of no consequence to them. This half-baked idea of a food-slam in the park also shows how out of touch they are with local opinion. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 12, 2017, 11:12:42 am
Story written this morning on Craig y Don Food Slam being scrapped: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SDQ on August 12, 2017, 11:20:53 am
Story written this morning on Craig y Don Food Slam being scrapped: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261)


Craig Y Don NIMBYs win again!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on August 12, 2017, 11:36:08 am
Tudno Castle is coming down, Gwyn Jones of You Know You are From Llandudno Facebook page  reported an application has been submitted to demolish as it's in too poor a condition to retain.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 12, 2017, 11:54:23 am
Tudno Castle is coming down, Gwyn Jones of You Know You are From Llandudno Facebook page  reported an application has been submitted to demolish as it's in too poor a condition to retain.

In 2014 Opus North (Llandudno) Ltd and Tudno Development Ltd received planning permission from Conwy Council to redevelop the derelict Tudno Castle Hotel. The proposed development would provide a 63 bedroom hotel with restaurants and new retail units, retaining and incorporating the listed façade (planning application number 0/40758).

Work started on the development in early 2017. However, as work progressed it became apparent that the building was in a much poorer condition than first thought. As a result, it is not possible to retain the façade as originally proposed.

Against this background, Opus North (Llandudno) Ltd and Tudno Development Ltd are proposing to submit a revised planning application to demolish the former Tudno Castle Hotel. The original façade of the building will be recreated so the building will retain its original look from the outside alongside the new retail elements.

On this website you can view all the documents Opus North will submit as part of the planning application and leave your comments about our revised proposals.

This is the link from the Facebook comment......
Redevelopment of Tudno Castle Hotel, Vaughan Street, Llandudno
http://tudnocastle.consultationonline.co.uk/ (http://tudnocastle.consultationonline.co.uk/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 12, 2017, 12:06:11 pm
Story written this morning on Craig y Don Food Slam being scrapped: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261)


Craig Y Don NIMBYs win again!

Quite sad really, but there'll be a few smug people on here, delighted that they have stopped something happening rather than creating something.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 12, 2017, 12:08:23 pm
And here's the story on Tudno Castle Hotel... grafting hard today like  ;D ;D ;D
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plan-submitted-tear-down-grade-13467581 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plan-submitted-tear-down-grade-13467581)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 12, 2017, 12:13:32 pm
So everything is about blocking, destruction or negativity.

Who needs Trump and Kim Jong Un when we can do such a good job of it ourselves eh?

Tom, please come back when you have some GOOD news to report, such as Mr Waldron getting permission to actually CREATE something.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 12, 2017, 12:31:52 pm
So everything is about blocking, destruction or negativity.

Who needs Trump and Kim Jong Un when we can do such a good job of it ourselves eh?

Tom, please come back when you have some GOOD news to report, such as Mr Waldron getting permission to actually CREATE something.

Fester, me old mate, what utter rubbish. Glass half full - or half empty. Good news is that the park is not being wrecked, and good news that the Tudno is coming down so that something new can take it's place - at last!.

I can only suspect that you are suffering from a lack of beer......
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 12, 2017, 12:36:54 pm
Not at all Bosun, I'm off to Conwy to get some actually...(after a quick gym and swim)

I was quite looking forward to the Food Slam,  who knows, YOU might have actually enjoyed it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 12, 2017, 12:50:07 pm
We are big supporters of (proper) food fairs, they are excellent venues for artisan producers and small buisness to build up trade, but the CyD park is categorically the wrong place to hold one. Locally, there are a multitude of suitable venues; West Shore, Conwy Quay, Bodofan Fields, RSPB, to name but a few, without ruining a volunteer maintained park.

And even you must admit that the Tudno Hotel coming down at last is a good thing to enable things to move on.

Partake, and return rejoicing. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 12, 2017, 02:49:01 pm
Mr David Evans of Dylan's time might be better spent getting Dylan's restaurant itself up to an acceptable level. Most of our chums have been there and I've yet to hear a comment better than 'average', some have been very critical indeed, certainly nothing to entice us to visit. I'm getting the impression that the management are not actually bothered as long as they are getting the through-put; the fact that most of their local customers would not return or recommend Dylan's seems of no consequence to them. This half-baked idea of a food-slam in the park also shows how out of touch they are with local opinion.

Hollins appears to have tried the place ( see another thread), but as I commented it looks very quiet and reading between the lines she didn't seem to rave about it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 12, 2017, 02:52:29 pm
I really don't think that the Tudno Castle being demolished is a good thing, no.

Because it's a beautiful frontage, and more importantly it's another example of developers LYING in their intentions, usually in order to throw up a cheap and lucrative 'disposable' building.

Here we forgotten the Alice in Wonderland house debacle with Anwyl, and the vandalism of Colwyn Bay Pier so soon?

I thing it's sad, and cynical.... and entirely predictable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 12, 2017, 03:18:22 pm
Story written this morning on Craig y Don Food Slam being scrapped: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261)


Craig Y Don NIMBYs win again!

Quite sad really, but there'll be a few smug people on here, delighted that they have stopped something happening rather than creating something.

Nothing smug about trying to prevent our park being taken over for commercial gain, the park damaged and the peace and tranquility of a residential area being disturbed on a regular basis.
There is an alcohol ban in place for the park so that idea is a non starter anyway but the main reason everyone was in uproar wasn't about a single event it was the open ended 5 day application and Gorjys have demonstrated their intentions by refusing to modify it to a single one.
As already stated there are lots of places that are more suitable and where damage to the ground would be of less importance too and Craig-y-Don Park would certainly suffer severe damage in the wetter months.... which actually could be any time of year.
So no, I don't feel in the least bit smug, but I do feel relieved that so far, the park remains safe. As for stopping something being created that is absolutely not the case, it's just been rescheduled for a different venue at a different time of the year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on August 12, 2017, 05:21:20 pm
some GOOD news to report, such as Mr Waldron getting permission to actually CREATE something.

Surely not the current god-awful proposals to ruin the pier?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on August 12, 2017, 05:21:55 pm
Tudno Castle is coming down, Gwyn Jones of You Know You are From Llandudno Facebook page  reported an application has been submitted to demolish as it's in too poor a condition to retain.

Any official word on whether or not Premier Inn has withdrawn from the project?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 12, 2017, 08:46:04 pm
some GOOD news to report, such as Mr Waldron getting permission to actually CREATE something.

Surely not the current god-awful proposals to ruin the pier?

Yes, let's get on with it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 14, 2017, 10:15:10 am
Story written this morning on Craig y Don Food Slam being scrapped: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-food-slam-llandudno-park-13467261)


Craig Y Don NIMBYs win again!

Quite sad really, but there'll be a few smug people on here, delighted that they have stopped something happening rather than creating something.

Well locals - cross October 7th off your diaries I'm afraid that's just going to be just like every other Saturday in Llandudno.

These people have won

(https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueofgentlemen/images/1/1d/Glasses-league-of-_3254418k.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/263?cb=20170428083929)

"Trudging slowly over wet sand
Back to the bench where your clothes were stolen
This is the coastal town
That they forgot to close down
Armageddon, come Armageddon!
Come, Armageddon! Come!
Everyday is like Sunday
Everyday is silent and grey
Hide on the promenade
Etch a postcard :
"How I Dearly Wish I Was Not Here"
In the seaside town
That they forgot to bomb
Come, come, come, nuclear bomb"
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TELL on August 14, 2017, 05:27:38 pm
Cheer up B2R, it's a big day for you on Wednesday, The Bhoys just might get lucky against Astana, and you might get lucky at the Croquet Club Annual Competition Finals! Fingers firmly crossed for you!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 15, 2017, 09:17:33 am
Cheer up B2R, it's a big day for you on Wednesday, The Bhoys just might get lucky against Astana, and you might get lucky at the Croquet Club Annual Competition Finals! Fingers firmly crossed for you!

Thanks Tell, I think Celtic will win if they don't they need a serious shake up. But sadly I only made it as far as the Quarter Finals in the croquet this year so I will not be competing in the finals :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 15, 2017, 01:14:38 pm
Asset or obstacle ?

Llandudno's new tourist information office.
 http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/home/2017/08/12/gallery/new-tourist-information-office-opens-in-llandudno-92671/ (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/home/2017/08/12/gallery/new-tourist-information-office-opens-in-llandudno-92671/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 15, 2017, 02:40:09 pm
Cheer up B2R, it's a big day for you on Wednesday, The Bhoys just might get lucky against Astana, and you might get lucky at the Croquet Club Annual Competition Finals! Fingers firmly crossed for you!

Thanks Tell, I think Celtic will win if they don't they need a serious shake up. But sadly I only made it as far as the Quarter Finals in the croquet this year so I will not be competing in the finals :'(

Was the quarter final and the first round one and the same thing?  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 15, 2017, 02:48:29 pm
Cheer up B2R, it's a big day for you on Wednesday, The Bhoys just might get lucky against Astana, and you might get lucky at the Croquet Club Annual Competition Finals! Fingers firmly crossed for you!

Thanks Tell, I think Celtic will win if they don't they need a serious shake up. But sadly I only made it as far as the Quarter Finals in the croquet this year so I will not be competing in the finals :'(

Was the quarter final and the first round one and the same thing?  :laugh:

 :rage:

No - two rounds before that thank you.

Good mind to turn up at the Llandudno darts open and show you a thing or two. Venue Cymru is a great venue for this year  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 20, 2017, 11:17:45 am
The DP has done a piece on our Town Crier, Billy Baxter, with a few surprises I was not aware of, quite a remarkable man.

Meet the Llandudno biker who wants to break the 200mph barrier ... and he's blind
Billy Baxter, 53, broke the world speed record for blind motorcycle riding 14 years ago and now he wants to go one better.
Billy, 53, Llandudno’s town crier, has worked for the Blind Veterans UK charity for 16 years and holds the Guinness World Record for the fastest blindfolded motorcycle ride in history.

The former soldier with the 1st Regiment Royal Horse Artillery lost his sight after contracting a rare virus while exhuming bodies from mass graves in Bosnia in 1997.

As well as being the only blind town crier in the UK, he has been on Top Gear completing a lap in a reasonably priced car while beating Richard Whiteley and Sir Terry Wogan’s times.

In 2012 he carried the Olympic Torch and ran the London Marathon.

He skis, drives, fishes and rode a lap on his bike at Donington Park Grand Prix circuit.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/meet-llandudno-biker-who-wants-13483512 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/meet-llandudno-biker-who-wants-13483512)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 20, 2017, 11:25:44 am
Thanks for posting that Steve. I had no idea.
I can only imagine that losing your sight is the most horrific thing possible, but to lose it in those terribly unfair circumstances... well,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 20, 2017, 03:20:43 pm
Billy also plays the bugle and although he's prone to hitting a few of the wrong notes it's a pleasure to hear him practicing.No complaints about noise there then!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 21, 2017, 03:19:39 pm
Ants are evil enough as it is, but who gave this lot in my garden, permission to sprout wings and fly everywhere!!   :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 22, 2017, 09:03:26 am
We walked along the Prom and through town on Sunday afternoon and the whole area was heaving. I do see though that there are quite a few people who visit Llandudno that do not contribute much, if anything, to the town, as they bring their own food/drink and do not spend anything with the town's businesses.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 22, 2017, 09:55:05 am
None more than those who bring a picnic, park for free and use the CyD paddling pool.

However, it is only a problem for CCBC when they park a motorhome overnight and over a grid outside the paddling pool toilet facilities.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 23, 2017, 12:12:05 pm
We walked along the Prom and through town on Sunday afternoon and the whole area was heaving. I do see though that there are quite a few people who visit Llandudno that do not contribute much, if anything, to the town, as they bring their own food/drink and do not spend anything with the town's businesses.

You're getting the point now Dave, its weekends only, for a few hours.
Outside that 'sweet spot' many of the businesses are closing early, and in some cases opening later.
A case in point is Cafe Indugence.  They open at 10am, but they know their first customers will be around 10.30 or 11am these days as most people have breakfast in the hotels or on the caravan site.
They close at 2.30pm, because they have learned that little or nothing their way after that time.
That's a very short working day is it not?   
Imagine that happening in Blackpool say?   

Your point about the increasing number of people who are coming who spend ZERO is also noted.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 23, 2017, 01:44:40 pm
Blackpool's seen declining numbers of tourists for years.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on August 23, 2017, 02:00:14 pm
I have to say as far as my B&B is concerned we have no seen any decrease in fact people are staying longer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 23, 2017, 02:02:37 pm
Police stop baffling Fester with facts.  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on August 23, 2017, 02:10:42 pm
Take a look at this  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-never-been-busier-near-13516224 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-never-been-busier-near-13516224)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 23, 2017, 02:59:09 pm
Police stop baffling Fester with facts.  :rage:

You been at the sherry B2R?
Your illiteracy is matched only by your ignorance, (and your lack of ability at darts)

Oh, and will you please change your notifications on Facebook?  I'm tired of seeing how far you've run on some 'Strava' device? 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on August 23, 2017, 03:09:43 pm
It's not a device it's an app  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 23, 2017, 08:32:58 pm
Take a look at this  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-never-been-busier-near-13516224 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-never-been-busier-near-13516224)

Reading this article I wonder where the powers that be get their figures from. We are as busy as we want to be with regard to age and ability etc, but I would love to know where these fact emanate from.....certainly not me !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 23, 2017, 10:45:46 pm
Take a look at this  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-never-been-busier-near-13516224 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-never-been-busier-near-13516224)

Reading this article I wonder where the powers that be get their figures from. We are as busy as we want to be with regard to age and ability etc, but I would love to know where these fact emanate from.....certainly not me !

Nor are they getting it from ANYONE I speak to.
It's known as propaganda, or as is becoming popular 'FAKE NEWS'
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 24, 2017, 09:04:11 am
I think there's some truth in it - they could hardly make up the bit about the hotels - but the UK is experiencing a lot of foreign visitors this year.  But I'd be wary about describing it in the same vein as that of someone who describes anything he doesn't like, true or not, that way.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TELL on August 24, 2017, 10:19:22 am
I socialise with several people who cater for the tourist industry in Llandudno in a variety of ways, "unusually" they all seem very content with their current businesses. There is however, a lot of muttering about the number of coaches bringing a new type of visitor here on day trips. They set up on the prom with their own food and amusements, and enjoy themselves without spending a bean. Good for integration I suppose, but not so good for our businesses.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 24, 2017, 01:59:43 pm
I think there's some truth in it - they could hardly make up the bit about the hotels - but the UK is experiencing a lot of foreign visitors this year.  But I'd be wary about describing it in the same vein as that of someone who describes anything he doesn't like, true or not, that way.

You can make up whatever you want, if you have no accountability for it, and you have a vested interest in talking the situation up!
Remember, all that was said was...
'Anecdotal evidence suggests most of the well-run hotels are at or near capacity'
... and that suddenly becomes newsworthy?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 24, 2017, 02:26:53 pm
Today I took delivery of a light bulb....................one light bulb. Look at the size of the box !! It was also encased in a thick layer of bubble wrap.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 24, 2017, 02:28:46 pm
Only at one point;  They wrote "Mostyn chief executive Edward Hiller said that most hotels were at or close to capacity, ", so no use of anecdotal there. 

The thing is they're trying to talk the town up, as they say. And I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Perhaps the Chamber of Commerce can shed some light with stats.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on August 24, 2017, 02:49:17 pm
Just seen a yellow low wing monoplane fly east to west south of Llandudno, had USAAF markings, radial engine and long glass canopy, similar to a WW2 Harvard.

Does anyone have any knowledge?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 24, 2017, 03:09:17 pm
Time for a "Parcel Farce" headline
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2017, 04:23:02 pm
Just seen a yellow low wing monoplane fly east to west south of Llandudno, had USAAF markings, radial engine and long glass canopy, similar to a WW2 Harvard.
Does anyone have any knowledge?
I saw it pass over, my best guess would be something to do with the Rhyl airshow this weekend.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 24, 2017, 04:50:19 pm
Nemesis, what is it? The world's most expensive lightbulb?
What's it made of diamonds??
That's 'outrageous behaviour '
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2017, 05:34:20 pm
Today I took delivery of a light bulb....................one light bulb. Look at the size of the box !! It was also encased in a thick layer of bubble wrap.

Your not the only one Nem.....

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=amazons+small+items+large+packing&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enES433ES433&oq=amazons&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j0l4.25169j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=amazons+small+items+large+packing&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enES433ES433&oq=amazons&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j0l4.25169j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 24, 2017, 08:41:21 pm
Nemesis, what is it? The world's most expensive lightbulb?
What's it made of diamonds??
That's 'outrageous behaviour '

Admittedly it wasn't cheap, none are these days, it was a low energy type suitable for an outside light. Nor was it from Amazon!
 My OH ordered 2 five litre tins of masonry paint and a couple of packs of cheap paintbrushes from Toolstation a while back. When they arrived we had a cardboard box full of paint, so obviously that packaging wasn't good enough, could do with a happy medium. ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 25, 2017, 07:54:07 am
I socialise with several people who cater for the tourist industry in Llandudno in a variety of ways, "unusually" they all seem very content with their current businesses. There is however, a lot of muttering about the number of coaches bringing a new type of visitor here on day trips. They set up on the prom with their own food and amusements, and enjoy themselves without spending a bean. Good for integration I suppose, but not so good for our businesses.

Maybe there is an opportunity for someone to try and cater for their particular special needs if it isn't there at the moment?
On the other hand visitors to the town are not obliged to spend a penny to enjoy what the residents take for granted and they are putting money in to someones pocket even if it's only the coach park or the parking meter. I think most people who don't spend money don't do so because they perceive it's poor value or too expensive for their pocket. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 25, 2017, 08:19:51 am
They're excellent points. It continues to surprise me how expensive many of the hotel rooms are here, when comparable rooms in many places are far cheaper.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 25, 2017, 09:11:54 am
Some good points yes, but others are being simply missed.

Dave, we are talking not talking about a gap in the market, we are talking about large groups of people who for cultural or religious reasons don't eat what we eat, and therefore bring their own food.
They are perfectly entitled to do that but on many occasions they creat a lot of mess (and are prone to feed the seagulls because they don't know better)
That mess has to be cleaned up, and it's paid for by local business rates..... but the businesses are taking the revenue from them in the first place, do you see the problem?
I would estimate that this group now make up circa 20%  of the visitors to Llandudno. That's an average, because it's a higher proportion at weekends.

Then, we move on to the group who CAN'T spend, quite simply because they don't have enough disposable income to do so.  A few coppers in the arcade, a butty from Poundland and that's it.
During the six week school holidays this group is massive in number, and growing each year.
That takes me to Ian's point. Why is everything so expensive?
The margins on food and drink are in excess of 80% generally anyway, but in Llandudno the rents seem to push that figure ever higher. 
When I travel to Manchester or Leeds, many of the bars and cafes are doing half price offers on food, on certain days... or 2 for 1 cocktails, that kind of thing.  But never Llandudno.
The pier has greatly upgraded its offer of rides and amusement machines, but those rides and machines are now much more expensive.  Bouncy castle for example, has gone from £2 for all day, to £3 for 5 minutes.  Ice cream has increased approximately 30%


It's leading to an ever increasing feeling of being ripped off, not the pier, Llandudno as a whole and this is certainly borne out when you read Trip Advisor reviews.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2017, 09:26:54 am
With businesses like the Pier, I think you need to be very careful not to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. Ironically, the arcade on the pier did used to be called the Golden Goose, but I digress.

If you hoik up prices on food/drink/arcades/rides, then you can get away with that once or twice. But people do notice these things and, next time they're planning a day out....they may well go somewhere else that they perceive as being better value for money. The last thing the Pier needs is to gain a reputation for being a ripoff, otherwise you will just get families walking up and down without spending anything.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2017, 09:50:29 am
The Pier is somewhere I rarely frequent, but recently we had a visit from our Granddaughter and her partner with their 2 kiddies aged 2 and 4. I took them down to the pier and we spent an hour or so mingling with everyone. The arcade at the end wasn't quite as packed, so we ventured in. Naturally, at that age the girls liked to ride on the static things like Thomas the Tank and others. They were£1 a go which didn't seem bad. We supplied them with 2p pieces and they soon were delighted when more came out of the tray at the bottom as the coins fell down. Also out came reams of red tickets which we had to exchange for 'prizes' in the other arcade ( a couple of little bags of Haribo sweets)....more of an idea to have you fighting your way to the back of the other arcade. On the way back I treated them to a go to' Hook a Duck' which when we had finished 'faffing' about with tokens turned out to cost £3 per child. I felt rather that this was over priced, BUT when it came to the prizes the 2 year old had a lovely Dory soft toy and the 4 year old had a dolly's hairdressing set. The stuff was decent...not as bad as the usual fairground tat, so I was quite satisfied.
There seemed much more to do on the pier than previously, which was reflected by people who seemed to be spending and enjoying themselves. As a point this was mid-week and not weekend.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 25, 2017, 10:03:19 am
Fester, I too have noticed the groups of people who we are talking about, you can't miss them because they do stick together in large groups and look different to everybody else. You do wonder if we had outlets that sold food that was suitable for their consumption would they patronise them or would they still prefer to make up their picnics at home. They may well leave rubbish behind and that is inexcusable but don't blame them for the KFC and McDonalds rubbish that litters the A470 or for that matter the wrappers from the likes of Sainsbury's,Greggs and M&S that are blown along the streets of Llandudno. When it comes to feeding the gulls I think the remains from the chip shop meals is possibly the biggest culprit?
You also say that Llandudno never seem to offer half price deals or 2 for 1 offers. Maybe they don't need to, why reduce your price when you can get the full amount? If the rents are too high and the business folds it's usually the fault of the business for undertaking to pay a rent  where it isn't feasible to cover from the nature of that business.There are a lot of businesses that come and go because someone didn't do their homework properly and research their market with either unrealistic prices or trying to sell goods that few actually want to buy. In a way you have accepted the argument that the reason people don't spend is that they don't perceive something to be value for money. On the other hand a lot of folk obviously do, Llandudno's not only surviving but thriving despite the pictures of gloom.

Take a look at this  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-never-been-busier-near-13516224 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-never-been-busier-near-13516224)

I think it's also interesting that there is a bit of an anti national and multi-national business attitude by local business operators because of course they are competition and they often bring prices down. Travel Lodge or Premier Inn in a brand new set up is at least a guarantee for a certain expected standard at a certain price. You can understand why some choose that route when there are so many second rate places that try to charge more and you may not be aware of the package you are getting until you walk through the door.
In the article above Johnny Dough's owner is quoted as saying that he hopes the arrival of multi national chains doesn't push out the independents and I agree. Individuality is an asset to any town. However, the article also includes a link to another where he states there are plans afoot to open branches in Conwy,Bangor and Prestatyn. Wonder what they think there then? What will the shareholders of Pizza Hut think when he has driven them out of business and become a global brand!?
Then of course there is the question of where do local entrepreneurs spend their hard earned too ? How much of that stays in the town? If they have made enough during the summer I bet they can't wait to put their feet up on a sunbed and spend the winter in their apartment or villa in Spain, maybe buy a nice car made in Germany or have weekends in London and complain about the high prices and being ripped off.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2017, 10:44:19 am
In the article above Johnny Dough's owner is quoted as saying that he hopes the arrival of multi national chains doesn't push out the independents and I agree. Individuality is an asset to any town. However, the article also includes a link to another where he states there are plans afoot to open branches in Conwy,Bangor and Prestatyn. Wonder what they think there then? What will the shareholders of Pizza Hut think when he has driven them out of business and become a global brand!?
Good point!  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 25, 2017, 10:46:26 am
I see new parking pay&display machines have been installed all along the Prom. At least CCBC have moved into the 21st century and included contactless card payment options on them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2017, 11:54:43 am
With reference to Dave and Fester's comments about the groups of people you are obviously referring to I think that you will find that many people in the business of accommodation will not take these people as they upset their other guests with their strange habits, appearance, time keeping and refusal to eat any offered breakfast. Only last week my OH had 2 at the door who were rude, arrogant and threatening. He refused them room only and one stuck his foot in the door and got really stroppy. Luckily they seem afraid of dogs, so I didn't stop ours barking at them.
In no way am I racist, but these particular people make no effort to be part of society, which isn't my take on life.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 25, 2017, 12:42:30 pm
With reference to Dave and Fester's comments about the groups of people you are obviously referring to I think that you will find that many people in the business of accommodation will not take these people as they upset their other guests with their strange habits, appearance, time keeping and refusal to eat any offered breakfast. Only last week my OH had 2 at the door who were rude, arrogant and threatening. He refused them room only and one stuck his foot in the door and got really stroppy. Luckily they seem afraid of dogs, so I didn't stop ours barking at them.
In no way am I racist, but these particular people make no effort to be part of society, which isn't my take on life.

The Charedi, Nemesis, not a race but a sect...as Ian has explained to us previously.
Yes they are a particular issue.
But they make up about 5 or 10% of the group to which I refer.

The much bigger, but less offensive group are Asian families.  The issue here is purely cultural, they like to prepare large amounts of food and bring it along with them.  Presumably Halal.
Again, that's their preference, but doesn't generate any revenue for the town, merely waste to be cleaned up.  Traditional seaside fare is not their thing, whether it be food and drink, or novelty items.
It's like I said, it's just changing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2017, 01:21:23 pm
Now Fester, I was very careful not to name race, sect, colour or creed, so don't go putting words into my mouth.
I will welcome anyone as a guest providing that they adhere to our particular terms.
As an aside, many people have been caught out by internet booking agencies sending guests who turn up for a double room booking ie for 2 people and find that they are followed by a load of children, who haven't been mentioned. Fire regs? They don't care about that, but should an accident happen the hotel owner would shoulder the blame. One largish hotel caught people smuggling mattresses into the lift to fit more people into a room booked for two.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 25, 2017, 01:52:17 pm
Now Fester, I was very careful not to name race, sect, colour or creed, so don't go putting words into my mouth.
I will welcome anyone as a guest providing that they adhere to our particular terms.
As an aside, many people have been caught out by internet booking agencies sending guests who turn up for a double room booking ie for 2 people and find that they are followed by a load of children, who haven't been mentioned. Fire regs? They don't care about that, but should an accident happen the hotel owner would shoulder the blame. One largish hotel caught people smuggling mattresses into the lift to fit more people into a room booked for two.

So I'm wrong then? Yes?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 25, 2017, 01:59:28 pm
Nem's answered, F. I don't think anything useful will be gained by pressing her.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 25, 2017, 02:49:15 pm
Nem's answered, F. I don't think anything useful will be gained by pressing her.

I didn't put words in anyone's mouth though, I'm one of the VERY few on here who calls it like it is, hopefully without transgressing too many boundaries.  I used my own words, under my name.
I think that's what the world is missing these days, sadly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 25, 2017, 03:53:56 pm
Interesting facts here on Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haredi_Judaism#Lifestyle_and_family

There is a bit specifically about the UK near the bottom. With an official average of 5.9 children per family it would certainly put some strain on space in single room accommodation.
Interesting comment about dogs too because the other day we were walking a friend's dog around the Orme and came across a family group going the opposite direction. As you should in the circumstances we stepped in to the road to pass and the children all backed up against the wall with a look of total fear as the large but totally friendly Golden Retriever plodded past paying them scant attention. I wondered why at the time but I guess with all those kids there is no place for pets in the household as well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 25, 2017, 04:15:37 pm
This may explain a bit Dave even if it is contrary to our beliefs


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwifleGB1fLVAhXQa1AKHRdtDlEQFghlMAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjewishlearning.com%2Farticle%2Fjudaism-dogs%2F&usg=AFQjCNE6hACitEuKU-1Sh3SFsbWBILgtFw (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwifleGB1fLVAhXQa1AKHRdtDlEQFghlMAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myjewishlearning.com%2Farticle%2Fjudaism-dogs%2F&usg=AFQjCNE6hACitEuKU-1Sh3SFsbWBILgtFw)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 25, 2017, 05:37:22 pm
Interesting reading and explains a lot...it was the reason I looked at Wikipedia so thanks for the link Hugo.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 25, 2017, 06:39:56 pm
A very interesting article by Wikipedia, I knew some of it having read up on the subject a few years back, but that told me an awful lot more. Another interesting thing is looking at what all the fancy outfits are called and how much they cost !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TELL on August 27, 2017, 04:06:50 pm
A warm Bank Holiday Sunday in Llandudno, the town is packed. The prom and sandy beach is full of happy families, with some of the braver ones actually in the briny. The donkeys are plodding along doing their best to eat all the seaweed, the lifeboat is sadly saying goodbye.

Are all our local entrepreneurs making the most of the last big opportunity of the summer season? I think that they are.

Just a pity that our wonderful council hadn't cut the grass, got the toilets in Western Gardens finished, arranged for the overflowing rubbish bins to be emptied, and where are the beach attendants? August Bank Holiday, no beach attendants, and all the deckchairs locked up, very sad.

Still, never mind our inept council, we are sadly used to them. It's a great weekend for our lovely town!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 28, 2017, 09:19:37 pm
This card is on sale in aid of a charity .
Spooky eh?  It seems that they can see into the future!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on August 29, 2017, 12:26:52 am
That is some find Fester.
Someone taking the P... surely.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 29, 2017, 09:21:52 am
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 29, 2017, 09:36:49 am
This card is on sale in aid of a charity .
Spooky eh?  It seems that they can see into the future!
Haha, that's fantastic!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 29, 2017, 12:42:06 pm
Chinook helicopter just flown down the valley, and from where I am it looks as if it landed on the Northshore prom. ? ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on August 29, 2017, 01:45:09 pm
Landed on Bodafon fields, part of a cadet training exercise. Hoping to write up a few pars on it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 29, 2017, 03:04:16 pm
This is why there was a Chinook flying over Llandudno
Lots of locals have posted pictures online of the twin-rotored aircraft which came in to land at Bodafon Fields
BYTOM DAVIDSON

The Chinook came in to land on Bodafon Fields next to Craig-y-Don and was part of an exercise involving 120 Welsh Wing cadets and staff, as part of an 'experience day'.

No 2 Welsh Wing Air Cadets tweeted: "Great afternoon of Chinook flying with 27 Sqn RAF - 120 cadets and staff flown from a field in Llandudno!"

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on August 29, 2017, 07:31:20 pm
This card is on sale in aid of a charity .
Spooky eh?  It seems that they can see into the future!

Nah, he *thought* he could see in to the future and now he's had to give them all away for charity. With renewed investment in the Pier it's clear how this will all end.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 01, 2017, 09:03:25 am
I see that the 'Visitor Information Points' that were installed outside the Library and Station in May 2014 to great fanfare are now scheduled for removal and scrapping. How much did they cost - £20k+++?

Photo courtesy Anthony Woodhouse.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 01, 2017, 09:56:39 am
The Alice Trail doesn't seem to be as popular as it once was.

The private initiative also attracted a substantial amount of public funds, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 01, 2017, 09:18:40 pm
The Alice Trail doesn't seem to be as popular as it once was.

The private initiative also attracted a substantial amount of public funds, if I remember correctly.

I noticed that some of those metal 'rabbit footprints' are now empty holes.  Stolen?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 02, 2017, 09:13:48 am
Or lack of upkeep ? :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 02, 2017, 10:53:28 am
The wording suggested as though they have decided to allow street trading in many such areas, and they are just seeking any feedback, not 'objections' as such.

Anyone shed any more light on what's going on, and why?
Don't want to scaremonger, but this 'could' change the entire character of Llandudno.
Received from my local councilor today....
Street Trading.
Earlier this summer Conwy County Borough Council reviewed its street trading policy, which could have resulted in street trading prohibitions being lifted from residential streets in Llandudno.  The council launched a public consultation and the feedback was considered by the General Licensing Committee,  The committee felt that there was no public desire to open up residential streets to street trading.


Open Doors 2017.
Every year CADW, Conwy County Borough Council and the owners of historic buildings throughout the county come together to open their doors for free on select days during September.  This is an exciting opportunity to explore some of the most unique parts of our history steeped county.  Details of Conwy properties taking part in Open Doors 2017 are available online at http://cadw.gov.wales/events/open-doors-events-2017/conwy-events/?lang=en (http://cadw.gov.wales/events/open-doors-events-2017/conwy-events/?lang=en) .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 02, 2017, 11:23:51 am
The wording suggested as though they have decided to allow street trading in many such areas, and they are just seeking any feedback, not 'objections' as such.

Anyone shed any more light on what's going on, and why?
Don't want to scaremonger, but this 'could' change the entire character of Llandudno.
Received from my local councilor today....
Street Trading.
Earlier this summer Conwy County Borough Council reviewed its street trading policy, which could have resulted in street trading prohibitions being lifted from residential streets in Llandudno.  The council launched a public consultation and the feedback was considered by the General Licensing Committee,  The committee felt that there was no public desire to open up residential streets to street trading.


So you see, those who criticised the objectors to using Queens Park, Craig-y-Don for trading purposes probably didn't want the hot dog vendor outside their front door either.  :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 02, 2017, 01:50:44 pm
I think I see what you're driving at Dave, but nothing could be further from the truth.

You (and others) were objecting to a one day music and food event, in one tiny part of Llandudno.

I was concerned about EVERY street in Llandudno, being available to street traders, every day of the year.

See the subtle difference?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 02, 2017, 04:00:31 pm
I think I see what you're driving at Dave, but nothing could be further from the truth.

You (and others) were objecting to a one day music and food event, in one tiny part of Llandudno.

I was concerned about EVERY street in Llandudno, being available to street traders, every day of the year.

See the subtle difference?

Absolutely not, time and time again I have stressed that the biggest objection was to the application to a 5 day licence each and every week of the year and one that allowed events to carry on serving alcohol until 11.30pm too.
The difference isn't subtle, what might happen in Craig-y-Don was much worse!

So, I admit to being a NIMBY and don't mind anyone calling me such, however, it seems there is a huge percentage of residents living in Llandudno who don't see the town as a cash cow and are quite content with things the way they are without trying to make money at every possibility.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on September 03, 2017, 09:48:39 am
I think I see what you're driving at Dave, but nothing could be further from the truth.

You (and others) were objecting to a one day music and food event, in one tiny part of Llandudno.

I was concerned about EVERY street in Llandudno, being available to street traders, every day of the year.

See the subtle difference?

I was one who objected, and my reason was that I did not want to see the volunteer maintained park mangled. I have been to street parties and food fests in streets all over the world, and thoroughly enjoyed them (and I've seen the aftermath) and Crag y Don park in October is categorically not the place to hold one. 

There are plenty of suitable venues, plus if the Council is so keen to encourage them, get them to change the rules and hold them on the prom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 05, 2017, 04:28:36 pm
Spotted the Air ambulance landing in Llandudno about an hour ago, just taken off again, checking on the DP site..

Llandudno incident
A few of you have been in touch regarding several ambulances and the air ambulance landing at Asda in Llandudno. Here is a statement from the Welsh Ambulance Service regarding the incident.

A spokesman said: “We were called at shortly after 2.30pm this afternoon to reports of a medical emergency at Asda on Mostyn Broadway, Llandudno. We sent the Wales Air Ambulance, three crews in emergency ambulances and a paramedic in a rapid response vehicle to the scene.”
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 05, 2017, 06:16:05 pm
We saw this in Asda, we were told a man in his 30's had collapsed,  hope he is ok!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 05, 2017, 07:35:11 pm
This card is on sale in aid of a charity .
Spooky eh?  It seems that they can see into the future!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-christmas-card-pavilion-apartments-13577613?ptnr_rid=45923&icid=EM_DailyPost_Nletter (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-christmas-card-pavilion-apartments-13577613?ptnr_rid=45923&icid=EM_DailyPost_Nletter)

Thanks also to Nemesis for bringing this to everyone's attention.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 05, 2017, 08:03:00 pm
This card is on sale in aid of a charity .
Spooky eh?  It seems that they can see into the future!

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-christmas-card-pavilion-apartments-13577613?ptnr_rid=45923&icid=EM_DailyPost_Nletter (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-christmas-card-pavilion-apartments-13577613?ptnr_rid=45923&icid=EM_DailyPost_Nletter)

Thanks also to Nemesis for bringing this to everyone's attention.

Now Bri ! Where was I mentioned in this? That's how rumours start !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 05, 2017, 08:24:50 pm
Nemesis, I am sure you were the first to post it with a photograph on Facebook?

If it was not you then I apologise.

P.S. I won't quote your name.


28 August 2017 at 9.04pm. (with photograph of Xmas card)

"Anyone see what I saw when I bought this pack of Christmas cards this afternoon in aid of a local charity?"

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2017, 11:35:07 am
Let's hope that they've checked that the tide will be out!  _))*

Llandudno's firework display set to return
 
Allan George
Tuesday 5 September 2017 14:28


FIREWORK fun will return to Llandudno this November.

Llandudno Town Council has confirmed it is planning a spectacular pyrotechnic display for Saturday, November 4 on North Shore Beach after last year’s event was scrapped due to new insurance rules.

Councillor Greg Robbins, chairman of the council’s Fireworks Sub-Committee, said: “After the disappointment of not having a display last year, we have come up with a new idea and firing location for this year but we are awaiting the Marine License from Natural Resources Wales before the event is confirmed as going ahead”.

The event is being put on in conjunction with the Llandudno Pier Company and a specialist pyrotechnic contractor, amongst many others.

If the required licence is obtained, the display will start at 6.30pm. If conditions prevent the display being held that evening , the back-up date is Tuesday November 7 at 7pm.

Llandudno Town Council has had to cancel the event last year - due to take place this year on November 5 - due to new insurance requirements to cover Llandudno Pier in case of a fire on the pier.

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/home/2017/09/05/gallery/llandudno-s-firework-display-set-to-return-94266/?ut=20170905132817702 (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/home/2017/09/05/gallery/llandudno-s-firework-display-set-to-return-94266/?ut=20170905132817702)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 06, 2017, 11:51:48 pm
This paragraph made no sense to me...

'Llandudno Town Council has had to cancel the event last year - due to take place this year on November 5 - due to new insurance requirements to cover Llandudno Pier in case of a fire on the pier'

It's not taking place on 5th November?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 07, 2017, 02:33:26 am
I wonder why they can't find someone with basic literacy to compose these notices?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 07, 2017, 01:44:43 pm
Really pleased I didn't write that one.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2017, 08:52:24 am
It was fun to see the Wigan Ukulele Club playing at the Bandstand on Sunday afternoon, in aid of the RNLI. They drew quite a crowd.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 12, 2017, 11:51:06 am
The photo brought back some nice memories as I can remember the Llandudno Town Band playing there and there were always loads of people sat around enjoying the music
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 13, 2017, 11:49:13 am
We aren't the only place with sand problems ! Spotted this yesterday whilst making a quick stop in Barmouth.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 13, 2017, 03:48:40 pm
Can I tweet that picture please Nemesis? :-)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 13, 2017, 08:03:01 pm
Yes, of course you can ! ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2017, 10:47:56 am
An Alien appears to have occupied a building on Mostyn Street!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on September 15, 2017, 07:19:37 pm
Something to do with an Arts thing this weekend, it seems!  Called Octopus Attacks, presented by Migrations in partnership with LLAWN05 according to a flyer I was handed.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 15, 2017, 08:26:42 pm
I believe that the artist is called Filthy Lucre !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on September 15, 2017, 09:20:58 pm
That's the name on the flyer, along with Pedro Estrellas !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 15, 2017, 10:54:58 pm
A very apt name,  I suspect he's probably getting paid a LOT of 'filthy lucre' for this stuff, from my taxes too!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 16, 2017, 04:27:15 pm
Regarding DaveR's photo above .......passing a couple in Mostyn St. today, I overheard the comment " look at the testicles on that building"   ;D

Which reminded me of of another comment overheard in my shop years ago, two ladies discussing the waterproof coats, one saying "I think these are for men" and the other replying " do not worry everything is bisexual these days"   :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 17, 2017, 10:56:45 am
I think I have just seen a Lancaster bomber fly over Llandudno heading for RAF Valley,... I will try and confirm, anybody else see it, it's strange as recently they were grounded.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 17, 2017, 11:45:12 am
Regarding DaveR's photo above .......passing a couple in Mostyn St. today, I overheard the comment " look at the testicles on that building"   ;D

Which reminded me of of another comment overheard in my shop years ago, two ladies discussing the waterproof coats, one saying "I think these are for men" and the other replying " do not worry everything is bisexual these days"   :D

Reminiscent of Les Dawson's Ada.  _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 17, 2017, 12:07:24 pm
Steve H, after flying over Llandudno Bay, the Lancaster appeared to fly south.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 17, 2017, 12:27:16 pm
Thank's Bri, I thought I was seeing things, it was completely unexpected, the sight and sound of this plane is fantastic.

2 videos from FB
https://www.facebook.com/jason.hegarty.3/videos/10212535700721618/ (https://www.facebook.com/jason.hegarty.3/videos/10212535700721618/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mondie on September 17, 2017, 02:25:42 pm
Wow so it was a Lancaster! I saw it just as I was bracing myself to get started on the exercise bike. It sounded fabulous but it was too far away for me to be sure what I was looking at. My favourite plane from my modelling days and I just happen to glance out the window and see one flying by  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on September 18, 2017, 09:29:39 am
              Just seen a film crew setting up  at the west shore end of Abbey Road. There was a large boom camera and various buses and wagons there, and a girl/long-haired man waiting nearby on a khaki wartime-type motorbike with the engine running waiting for the "action" signal. Could be for an advert maybe?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on September 19, 2017, 07:37:33 am
Gwynant, think it's a skincare advert for David Beckham, I saw they had a stunt motorbike rider doing something on the Orme.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 19, 2017, 09:17:12 am
Don't tell Hollins about Beckham or she'll be in Llandudno as quick as a flash       ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on September 19, 2017, 09:36:23 am
I had a major panic when I saw his pics on Instagram that he was in Wales and then again when I saw Gwynant's post yesterday.
I am relying on you all to advise me quickly if he appears!

PS. The Lancaster bomber flew right past our house the other day flying very low or so Mr H told me. I was in the bath so no pics!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on September 19, 2017, 04:42:45 pm
Surely David Beckham is the wrong person to be promoting skincare - all those tattoos show how careful he is about his skin.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 25, 2017, 05:12:10 pm
Nice quiet walk along Westshore.

The last photo, is unusual, all the other flowers have died, but the one trapped in the wrought iron survives !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 25, 2017, 06:50:05 pm
Re the swans at West Shore. We only had one for ages, someone said the other had been 'got' by a fox, then there were 2 again, later that week there were 5. This Saturday we only had one again.!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 25, 2017, 07:25:53 pm
Re the swans at West Shore. We only had one for ages, someone said the other had been 'got' by a fox, then there were 2 again, later that week there were 5. This Saturday we only had one again.!
Nem, there were 3 this evening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 25, 2017, 07:27:47 pm
Maybe they have a shift system?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: snowcap on September 25, 2017, 09:42:54 pm
people were feeding them with bread this afternoon i thought it was against the law to feed bread to them
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llewelyn on September 25, 2017, 11:25:50 pm
In Bewdley there are big signs telling people feeding birds bread or chips damages their health , you can buy bird feed from certain  shops.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: PhilMick on September 26, 2017, 06:51:39 am
I think all the swans have migrated here to Trentham lake (Staffordshire) - there were 70 white swans and two black last week.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 26, 2017, 10:02:52 am
From the RSPB.....

Swans eat aquatic vegetation, which their long necks equip them to take from the riverbed. They take the molluscs that cling to the vegetation, and also eat small fish, frogs and worms.

They will graze big grassy fields, and can survive quite successfully in a field of short-cropped grass. Flocks of Bewick's and whooper swans can be seen in potato fields during the winter, feeding on the potatoes left after harvesting.

Swans normally find enough food in the wild without supplementary feeding. It is only in freezing weather that extra food can be helpful. Many people like feeding bread to swans and while this is unlikely to do them any real harm in the long term, it is no substitute for the proper diet that the birds themselves will seek out.

Grain, such as wheat, and vegetable matter, especially lettuce and potatoes, can be fed to swans. Food should be thrown into the water to avoid encouraging the birds onto the bank.


Read more at https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/bird-and-wildlife-guides/bird-a-z/m/muteswan/feeding.aspx#yjCMvkpQsJVoPPM4.99 (https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/bird-and-wildlife-guides/bird-a-z/m/muteswan/feeding.aspx#yjCMvkpQsJVoPPM4.99)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 28, 2017, 05:03:01 pm
No mention of the money already wasted.   $angry$

"Sand could reappear at North Shore beach in Llandudno to save town from floods
Llandudno Coastal Forum has welcomed a new plan looking at how the North Shore and West Shore beaches could be enhanced.

A multi-million pound project to develop Llandudno’s sea defences to make the seaside town safe for the next 100 years has taken a step forward.

The Welsh Government can provide up to 75% of the funding, but the local authority (Ratepayers) will have to foot the rest of the cost."
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/sand-could-reappear-north-shore-13687852 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/sand-could-reappear-north-shore-13687852)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 28, 2017, 05:41:42 pm
I couldn't help but notice that even on the busiest days this summer, the small area of sand on North Shore beach was only about 60% full.
There was always plenty of space if you wanted to use it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2017, 09:12:57 am
Should anyone be at a loose end for several hours, the full Beach Management Plan report is available here to download:
https://tinyurl.com/ybdubkqw

To save people the hassle of reading it all, I'll mention that the cost of reinstating the Timber Groynes/replacing the shingle with sand will be in the region of £11 - 13.5m, with the Welsh Government contributing 75% of that cost and CCBC taxpayers the balance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on September 29, 2017, 07:57:21 pm
 Anyone noticed the new road sign erected on the triangle up the Orme. It is a warning sign for sheep wandering onto the road.
  Fine. It's probably needed. Only thing is its location. In practice on many days a driver ascending the Orme will have driven past a dozen or so sheep before you reach the sign.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mondie on September 29, 2017, 11:18:59 pm
Should anyone be at a loose end for several hours, the full Beach Management Plan report is available here to download:
https://tinyurl.com/ybdubkqw

To save people the hassle of reading it all, I'll mention that the cost of reinstating the Timber Groynes/replacing the shingle with sand will be in the region of £11 - 13.5m, with the Welsh Government contributing 75% of that cost and CCBC taxpayers the balance.

Interesting Dave, I haven't got the resolve to read 286 pages of it all. Is that the recommendation, to go back to sand? Be fantastic if so but my what a cost.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 30, 2017, 08:03:29 am
I suppose it depends on how you view it. If reinstating the sand is part of an overall beach preservation / Llandudno flood defence strategy,  then that's probably good value for money.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on September 30, 2017, 07:59:24 pm
I suppose it depends on how you view it. If reinstating the sand is part of an overall beach preservation / Llandudno flood defence strategy,  then that's probably good value for money.

And it puts right the wrongs of destroying the beach in the first place.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 01, 2017, 12:58:07 am
Two wrongs don't make a right though, but they can cost TWICE as much.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 01, 2017, 08:54:57 am
Two wrongs don't make a right though, but they can cost TWICE as much.

...the story of government the world over, I suspect,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 02, 2017, 03:52:40 pm
Should anyone be at a loose end for several hours, the full Beach Management Plan report is available here to download:
https://tinyurl.com/ybdubkqw

To save people the hassle of reading it all, I'll mention that the cost of reinstating the Timber Groynes/replacing the shingle with sand will be in the region of £11 - 13.5m, with the Welsh Government contributing 75% of that cost and CCBC taxpayers the balance.

I don't think by any stretch of the imagination you can describe what was dumped on the North Shore as shingle Dave. Rubble or Quarry debris would be a far better description.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 03, 2017, 03:36:34 pm
It was a cold day on the Promenade today and it's not surprising that there were only a few people walking on the pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2017, 05:42:20 pm
 Chaotic traffic heading towards town as the road is being dug up between the Links Hotel and Asda traffic lights and currently closed to traffic . Best avoiding Llandudno by car for a day or two methinks unless someone knows when it will be finished.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 03, 2017, 08:06:50 pm
Closed 3rd - 6th October.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 07, 2017, 03:50:54 pm
Absolute chaos in town today with cars in jams everywhere and parking spaces as rare as hen's teeth. Is it the appalling weather that brings folk to the shops or was there an event going on in town?

Fortunately there wasn't anything happening in Craig-y-Don park though. As predicted the weather in October can be awful, the grass would have been torn to shreds by any vehicles or heavy footfall although the latter was unlikely in this rain. Won't just be the residents of Craig-y Don that are thankful "the" event didn't go ahead, there would have been some financial losses too.

Oh and I bet those who were all in favour on this forum would have stayed away today as well WWW
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 07, 2017, 05:19:08 pm
Dave, I was in the gym this morning and couldn't help notice the annual Masonic event was being held in Venue Cymru and there was a major swimming gala in the pool so the VC car park was full early on.

Cars were parking down Charlotte Road which often makes it difficult to maintain two-way traffic.

Add to that the recent opening of Wilco.

I had forgotten it was today that Gorjys Events were aiming to host an event in CyD park.

Fortunately, that is now history but it still worth highlighting today's weather.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 07, 2017, 05:32:20 pm
Indeed, any outdoor event today would have been a disaster.
The forecast , only last night, was for a reasonably pleasant day.
It's amazing how inaccurate they are.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 07, 2017, 06:13:15 pm
That is exactly what we said, Fester.

Never mind, there has already been one good rugby union match to enjoy indoors but now for the Super League Grand Final.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on October 08, 2017, 06:22:47 pm
All this talk about the weather. Is that why I sit half way up the Orme every day and never see anyone ha
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 10, 2017, 03:48:45 pm
I parked my car by the Ski Lodge and Mrs H and I enjoyed a leisurely walk downhill through the Happy Valley gardens.  It's hard work for the gardeners looking after the gardens and only this morning the gardener I spoke to said that he had to chase a large herd of Goats away before they did any damage

I then went back to the car while Mrs H sat and enjoyed the lovely views.   It was a nice sunny Autumn day but that hill back up to the car seemed a lot steeper than I remembered.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 10, 2017, 04:46:24 pm
Nice photos Hugo,.....Upper Mostyn st seems steeper to me these days.    :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 12, 2017, 09:30:33 am
In an era where sexism is strictly frowned upon, I found it a little odd that Conwy Council have allowed a male strip show like the Dreamboys to appear at Venue Cymru? It would seem that the the objectification of women is now totally unacceptable, but the objectification of men is fine. Funny old world, isn't it?

Fester, here's the link to book tickets that you wanted:
https://www.dreamboystour.co.uk/ (https://www.dreamboystour.co.uk/)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 12, 2017, 11:39:56 am
 _))* _))* _))*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 12, 2017, 06:38:56 pm
In an era where sexism is strictly frowned upon, I found it a little odd that Conwy Council have allowed a male strip show like the Dreamboys to appear at Venue Cymru? It would seem that the the objectification of women is now totally unacceptable, but the objectification of men is fine. Funny old world, isn't it?

Fester, here's the link to book tickets that you wanted:
https://www.dreamboystour.co.uk/ (https://www.dreamboystour.co.uk/)

 :laugh:

Ha! Already booked the back stage 'meet and greet'
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 13, 2017, 05:01:57 pm
The forum is often full of complaints and criticisms, me included, but for the last couple of days, and as I often do,I have walked in to town via the prom then returning to Craig-yDon via the length of Mostyn St

Pretty damned impressive place we live in and it makes you feel grateful that you are not on one of those departing coaches and here for just a week.

Lucky me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on October 13, 2017, 10:44:28 pm
Seems complaints about the Council and Llandudno beach are nothing new ... this letter was in the North Wales Chronicle dated 13 November 1875 !!!

For your info, Alderman Pochin was Henry Davis Pochin who had bought Bodnant just a few months before, his descendants (McLaren family) are still in ownership of the estate.  The house referred to in the letter was on Cwlach Road as he owned, and I believe developed, Haulfre Gardens.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 14, 2017, 08:38:33 am
Fascinating.  Seems the human state is to complain.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on October 27, 2017, 02:32:39 pm
This was posted a few moments ago on a Facebook page:

Hi guys,
Just thought I'd share my experience this morning on West Shore.
Kingdom bullies approached me and stated that I was breaking the law by having my dog on an extending lead.
She was about half way on the lead, so about 4 metres.
He asked for my details, and when I asked why, he said he was going to ticket me for having an uncontrolled dog.
I basically told him and his mate to b****r off and if they wanted to take it further, call the police.
He then told me this conversation was being filmed and could be produced as evidence.
I then offered to stick his camera where the sun doesn't shine if he didn't walk away. His mate promptly whispered in his ear, they turned around, and walked away.
I did later, on my way back, encounter them again.
They just walked by.
They didn't follow me to my car, and didn't say anything more.
Perhaps they didn't like being bullied, I am 6'4", 18 stone, ex Scots Guardsmen.
I wonder if they'll be there again tomorrow?


Karma. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 27, 2017, 03:21:54 pm
Unfortunatly they were correct, local rules say maximum 2m .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on October 27, 2017, 04:14:32 pm
Unfortunatly they were correct, local rules say maximum 2m .

........ why didn't they enforce it then? 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on October 27, 2017, 06:16:20 pm
Britain in Bloom result ....... GOLD for Llandudno.
Well done to all involved.  $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 27, 2017, 06:43:36 pm
Unfortunatly they were correct, local rules say maximum 2m .

........ why didn't they enforce it then?

* Perhaps they didn't like being bullied, I am 6'4", 18 stone, ex Scots Guardsmen. *
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on October 27, 2017, 07:57:12 pm
Unfortunatly they were correct, local rules say maximum 2m .

........ why didn't they enforce it then?

* Perhaps they didn't like being bullied, I am 6'4", 18 stone, ex Scots Guardsmen. *

Exactly. They are nothing less than obnoxious bullies.

Tell them to 'do one' and stand your ground.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2017, 01:53:14 pm
Hi Tom, any chance of posting that aerial  photo of Llandudno, you have on your DP site......  $thanx$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on October 29, 2017, 03:33:31 pm
Not my photo - you'd have to ask Andrew Stuart. https://twitter.com/AndrewStuart/status/923953873403940866
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 29, 2017, 04:08:38 pm
Not my photo - you'd have to ask Andrew Stuart. https://twitter.com/AndrewStuart/status/923953873403940866


Thanks Tom.   $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on November 04, 2017, 07:08:26 pm
Excellent fireworks display from North Shore tonigjt. Very impressive.

Traffic is bedlam...... as is the parking.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 05, 2017, 03:48:47 am
Yes.  $good$

I thought they were brilliant.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 05, 2017, 02:44:42 pm
Those hoping for the Llanfairfechan display were disappointed ,when the tide swamped the fireworks.  Now, if we think Llandudno TC and CCBC are idiots, let's see how Llanfairfechan managed to site their display where it would get swamped by the tide:

"Mayor Delohne Merrell said they were sorry to those who had turned out.
“At this point we need to sit down as a town council and talk about what has happened,” she said, which qualifies as the understatement of the year. Now, it was a high tide - one of the highest, in fact - but it was accurately forecast.

Cllr Merrell said she was not fully aware of what had happened (someone messed up), but said she believed the mixture of heavy rain (?) and a faster-than-expected high tide led to the fireworks being destroyed.

Well, the high tide came in at the predicted rate and time, while Wrexham-based Festival Fireworks' owner, who had provided the display, put their company owner forward to explain.

"Brian Davies, the company owner, said: “We were told the times of the low tide, but found out afterwards there was a spring tide."

But the spring tide was also forecast. As some locals said "Should have been one: it had all been set up on the beach ready for the off, then the tide came in.”

Now, tides are very, very predictable, even at times of severe depressions, which there wasn't on November 4th. The fireworks company didn't check with the Wirral observatory, who would have explained everything for the cost of a single phone call. Alternatively, tide timetables are available online and from a lot of local shops .

Wonder who's being held responsible?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on November 05, 2017, 03:25:47 pm
Wonder who's being held responsible?

Obviously it will be someone else.

I expect they would have had to carry out all sorts of Risk Assessments - ticking boxes with little thought.

Common sense is something in very short supply these days, especially amongst those who are entrusted to do things.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 05, 2017, 03:35:48 pm
*Common sense is something in very short supply these days, especially amongst those who are entrusted to do things.*     
The lack of common sense usually escalates when its other peoples money on the line.  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 05, 2017, 05:01:21 pm
I seem to remember an organised sand castle competition on the North Shore Beach  at Llandudno not too long ago.      It was arranged for 2.00 pm one afternoon, just about the same time as the high tide in Llandudno.       ???

It was cancelled at very short notice.      :-}}}
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 06, 2017, 09:45:24 am
Crumbling Llandudno pavements need businesses' help for £3m repair project, says council

The local authority hope to replace the cracked and broken pavements along Mostyn Street, but face huge costs and ownership issues.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/crumbling-llandudno-pavements-need-businesses-13841407 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/crumbling-llandudno-pavements-need-businesses-13841407)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 08, 2017, 09:14:17 am
Crumbling Llandudno pavements need businesses' help for £3m repair project, says council

The local authority hope to replace the cracked and broken pavements along Mostyn Street, but face huge costs and ownership issues.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/crumbling-llandudno-pavements-need-businesses-13841407 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/crumbling-llandudno-pavements-need-businesses-13841407)
I laughed when i read this. £3,000,000 to replace paving stones along one street. Is no-one at CCBC able to realise when they are being taken for a ride?

The full report is here, I see they have already spent £7,000 on 'design fees'.  :laugh:
https://tinyurl.com/yd8m6vvo (https://tinyurl.com/yd8m6vvo)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 13, 2017, 12:03:25 pm
Thinking about the plan to replace the Mostyn Street pavements, I'm reminded that there has still been no progress on replacing the ancient street lighting along Mostyn Street. The present system of high pressure sodium floodlighting attached to buildings dates from the early 1970s and is life expired, with large areas of the street in semi-darkness - an extraordinary situation for one of the busiest streets in the County. When so many relatively minor roads in the area have been upgraded to the latest LED lighting, why has Mostyn Street been overlooked?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 14, 2017, 11:13:33 am
Blow for Llandudno's town centre: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/marks-spencer-ms-llandudno-close-13899825 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/marks-spencer-ms-llandudno-close-13899825)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2017, 11:24:00 am
Blow for Llandudno's town centre: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/marks-spencer-ms-llandudno-close-13899825 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/marks-spencer-ms-llandudno-close-13899825)
This line makes me laugh:
"If the move goes ahead it will be viewed as a huge blow to the town centre, which has struggled in recent years."
How has it struggled? It has one of the lowest shop vacancy rates in the UK! Really poor journalism...

I think a lot of people expected the satellite store to close, it was never busy and they didnt even bother having a manned till upstairs.

The planned closure of the main store does come as a surprise, as it is always very busy. I'm at a loss to see how it can relocate to Parc Llandudno when food retailing is not permitted there - maybe nobody has told M&S that? Not to mention the lack of a suitable unit that is anywhere near big enough. The whole plan doesn't make a lot of sense!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2017, 11:41:36 am
*The whole plan doesn't make a lot of sense!*

I agree,  I cannot understand their thinking, the food hall is a gold mine, I live near the No12 bus route, which is constantly used just for M&S food shopping,  I cannot see these people going to Parc Llandudno.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on November 14, 2017, 11:57:11 am
They are planning to build a eco-friendly large store in the town with ample parking. What is not to like.
There will be two holes to fill in a very vibrant high street built at least M&S aren't leaving the town like Rhyl. Waitrose perhaps !!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 14, 2017, 12:04:21 pm
They are planning to build a eco-friendly large store in the town with ample parking. What is not to like.
..and where are they building this store?!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 14, 2017, 12:15:57 pm
Many of the town centre shop owners have consistently argued that they struggle - every year for as long as I can remember.  I agree that it's one of the healthiest town centres, but perhaps the shop owners who have spent so long complaining are at least in part responsible for the headline?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2017, 01:54:59 pm
Marks & Spencer relocation to Parc Llandudno opposed by Mostyn Estates...which owns freehold on the site.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/marks--spencer-relocation-parc-13900792 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/marks--spencer-relocation-parc-13900792)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on November 14, 2017, 04:40:54 pm
Mostyn Estates will have to be very careful otherwise M&S will leave Llandudno altogether. Not sure where there's much space in Parc Llandudno for an M&S store though unless it'll be at the back of the redeveloped Tudno Hotel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on November 14, 2017, 05:46:58 pm
Or at the back of what is now Outfit where they were going to build for someone else a few years ago
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 14, 2017, 06:59:02 pm
It is rumoured the travel agents (TUI) are moving out and I believe there is an empty unit next door formerly Bank so, if that is the case, they could very easily merge units 9A and 9B.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2017, 08:43:17 am
M&S is a huge store, the food hall alone would take up more room that either of the suggested Parc Llandudno sites could handle, never mind the fact that the car park there is always nearly full already since the opening of Primark. There's no way it could handle the hundreds of extra cars an M&S would generate.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 15, 2017, 08:54:29 am
They'd need a store the size of Debenhams at least.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 15, 2017, 09:26:51 am
I worked in the warehouse in M & S many years ago and that's a big building too so anything at Parc Llandudno would have to be really big to accommodate everything that is needed.

I wonder what is the real reason behind the proposed move?      The store at Rhyl moved to Prestatyn apparently because of the cost of the rates and it left a massive gap in the High Street trade in Rhyl so I just hope that the same thing doesn't happen to Llandudno
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 15, 2017, 09:31:25 am
The speculation has already started, who is going to take over the old M&S?.    Which raises the question, why is M&Ss  gambling that a direct competitor will not move in ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2017, 09:43:47 am
The speculation has already started, who is going to take over the old M&S?.    Which raises the question, why is M&Ss  gambling that a direct competitor will not move in ?
I'd like to see Waitrose take over one of the sites to be vacated.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 15, 2017, 09:48:57 am
Blow for Llandudno's town centre: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/marks-spencer-ms-llandudno-close-13899825 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/marks-spencer-ms-llandudno-close-13899825)
This line makes me laugh:
"If the move goes ahead it will be viewed as a huge blow to the town centre, which has struggled in recent years."
How has it struggled? It has one of the lowest shop vacancy rates in the UK! Really poor journalism...
I see the errant line has been revised in the most recent article:
"Llandudno's main shopping street has survived the economic downturn relatively well - with one of the lowest empty property rates in the UK."

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/marks-spencer-llandudno-replacements-13900040 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/marks-spencer-llandudno-replacements-13900040)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on November 15, 2017, 10:04:05 am
M&S and Tom moving in the New Year.
It's more than a girl can take....... :o :o :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 15, 2017, 10:41:38 am
The speculation has already started, who is going to take over the old M&S?.    Which raises the question, why is M&Ss  gambling that a direct competitor will not move in ?
I'd like to see Waitrose take over one of the sites to be vacated.  $good$

Oh, yes :-)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 15, 2017, 11:32:12 am
The speculation has already started, who is going to take over the old M&S?.    Which raises the question, why is M&Ss  gambling that a direct competitor will not move in ?
I'd like to see Waitrose take over one of the sites to be vacated.  $good$

The question of parking raises its head here. ?? Any suggestions???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Goofey2 on November 15, 2017, 12:12:09 pm
There is nowhere big enough on Parc Llandudno or Champneys unless they take up some of the parking spaces, which has already been brought up here would not be adequate.

Unless Mostyn Estates are very lenient with their current policy of what is allowed to move in on these sites I do wonder how M&S plans will come to fruition.  However the store should have some clout, as probably the major store attraction for the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on November 15, 2017, 02:00:59 pm
There could be an ideal site available if they were allowed to pull down whats left of the Tudno Castle. D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Tom Davidson on November 16, 2017, 09:20:01 am
Plan is still for Tudno Castle site to become a Premier Inn/Pizza Express/Beefeater... just dealing a long delay after it was discovered they'd have to tear the whole building down and then re-build some (where have I heard that before...?).

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 16, 2017, 09:41:23 am
If you take the view that M&S would need a very large building with dedicated car park...then the only site suitable in that area would be the current Asda?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on November 16, 2017, 10:12:52 pm
They'd need a store the size of Debenhams at least.

Perhaps Debenhams is closing?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 17, 2017, 07:42:23 am
It's interesting you say that, since Debenhams has been running something of a tight-rope act in terms of business for some time. In October Sports Direct brought a tranche of shares in Debs and are thought to have paid quite a bid over the odds for them. And I do know that at the time they opened the Llandudno store they were in quite an aggressive expansion phase and their liabilities exceeded their income by a considerable margin at that time.

This is something of a trend, though; apart from really large cities - London, Manchester and the like - Department stores have been struggling for some years. But although Amazon is widely viewed as a town centre killer, I suspect really enterprising people could revitalise town centre shops by creating units that are dual purpose: internet and walk-in. Especially in places like here, where visitors love to browse shops, the key is to provide goods that reward browsing. Footwear, fashion, Artwork - the sorts of things people enjoy seeing at first hand.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on November 17, 2017, 10:30:33 am
It's interesting you say that, since Debenhams has been running something of a tight-rope act in terms of business for some time. In October Sports Direct brought a tranche of shares in Debs and are thought to have paid quite a bid over the odds for them. And I do know that at the time they opened the Llandudno store they were in quite an aggressive expansion phase and their liabilities exceeded their income by a considerable margin at that time.

This is something of a trend, though; apart from really large cities - London, Manchester and the like - Department stores have been struggling for some years. But although Amazon is widely viewed as a town centre killer, I suspect really enterprising people could revitalise town centre shops by creating units that are dual purpose: internet and walk-in. Especially in places like here, where visitors love to browse shops, the key is to provide goods that reward browsing. Footwear, fashion, Artwork - the sorts of things people enjoy seeing at first hand.

From a few months ago https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-debenhams-results-strategy/debenhams-could-close-stores-in-recovery-plan-idUKKBN17M0KM (https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-debenhams-results-strategy/debenhams-could-close-stores-in-recovery-plan-idUKKBN17M0KM)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on November 19, 2017, 10:38:39 am
Llandudno Christmas market, 136 stalls in temporary huts. Quite nicely done.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-christmas-fayre-fee-anger-13911541 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-christmas-fayre-fee-anger-13911541)

Some people would whinge if you paid them to go in.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on November 19, 2017, 12:50:55 pm
Was talking to a couple of elderly visitors from Birmingham the other day and they were going to Llandudno after they'd finished where I was (Bodnant Garden) - they said they went to numerous Christmas markets at this time of year and considered Lincoln to be the best ... they also said that Llandudno is the only one where they are charged to get in.  It must surely impact on the amount of trade that the stalls get.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on November 19, 2017, 01:19:19 pm
 Well, at the moment, I can see the it's rammed and there are long queues to get in. Not exactly neing boycotted because of the entrance fee!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 19, 2017, 10:59:27 pm
It was pretty busy from 1pm til 4pm when we were at the Xmas Fayre... but never rammed.
I have several thoughts on the admission fee.
£2.50 is simply wrong, I have never been charged admission to any Xmas market in Europe, never mind the UK.  If they MUST charge, then I think £1 is fair....  but I still have to wonder why.
Many of the more niche stalls were very quiet, many of the traders were sat looking bored and playing on their phones.  Yet they were paying £1000 for the 4 day pitch.  Not viable.
The food stalls were very busy indeed, and that is a theme which is seen in the high street these days.  More coffee shops, more cafes are opening... but shops that sell ‘things’ are struggling and closing down.

If the organisers are using the Live Entertainment as a justification for the charge (and I noted on Facebook that they are), then that is a gross misrepresentation.
The vast majority of the ‘acts’ on the inside marquee were simply schools and school choirs.
I watched two sessions of line dancing pensioners, and they were so bad they were hilarious.  They were having fun (I think?) but they were terrible.
Line dancing is a hobby, please don’t pass it off as entertainment... and please don’t pretend that they are being paid a lot of money to perform.

That said, the Xmas Fayre was the best one I’ve been to in Llandudno and we spent about £70 on the usual cheeses, bits to eat etc... but it is not anywhere near the size or quality of the Leeds, Manchester or Lincoln ones... and they are FREE to get into.

The prize for the cleverest entrepreneur goes to the lady who runs the Upper Crust cafe on Madoc St.
She pitched a gazebo outside the event (thereby not paying rent) and charged £4.50 for roast pork sandwiches, which were SIX POUNDS only 20 feet away inside the event.  She was RAKING it in.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 20, 2017, 09:01:55 am
We visited, too, and it was a well organised event.

However, when you have 136 stalls each paying £1000 for to attend, do you really need to charge an admission fee as well?

The organiser said: “Events like this cost a lot to put on and any profits that are made will go back to the community interest company for future events, the charge is not about making profit.”

I would say a £1 admission charge is more than enough if that is your objective...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on November 20, 2017, 09:16:39 am
I have to say that I had no idea that the stalls were charged that amount, and I have to wonder how many stalls would be making a profit after that outlay. Whilst it was busy when we went, there did not seem to be a lot of money exchanging hands. And, as Fester said, some of the entertainment was embarrassingly dire.

Having learnt of the £1k fee for stallholders, I can now wholly understand the resentment at the entrance fee. But, out of interest, how does that equate with the £9 entrance fee to Conwy Food Fair?

Just a thought, don't bite my head off.....!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on November 20, 2017, 09:42:10 am
Conwy food fair has proper entertainment. Case in point - If I want to see the Goat Roper Rodeo band play one of their own shows they are priced typically between £10 to 15 - same for the Welsh Pink Floyd. There I could see both of them and about 20 other quality acts for £9. Absolute bargain I would say. Z**
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 20, 2017, 09:57:38 am
We visited, too, and it was a well organised event.

However, when you have 136 stalls each paying £1000 for to attend, do you really need to charge an admission fee as well?

The organiser said: “Events like this cost a lot to put on and any profits that are made will go back to the community interest company for future events, the charge is not about making profit.”

I would say a £1 admission charge is more than enough if that is your objective...

Found this link.
LLANDUDNO CHRISTMAS FAYRE COMMUNITY INTEREST COMPANY
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10470030/officers

Also the DP is quoting approx. 35,000 visitors to the fayre.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 20, 2017, 09:58:48 am
Here are the stall charges contained in the application form for the Christmas Fayre 2017 although you will need to scroll down to find them together with the cost of any extras.

http://www.llandudnochristmasfayre.co.uk/images/LCF_Appplication_Form_2017_New%20(1).docx (http://www.llandudnochristmasfayre.co.uk/images/LCF_Appplication_Form_2017_New%20(1).docx)

http://www.chaletevents.net/types-of-chalet/ (http://www.chaletevents.net/types-of-chalet/)

It seems this company also provided the stalls for the recent Conwy Feast.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on November 20, 2017, 11:22:46 am
We visited, too, and it was a well organised event.

However, when you have 136 stalls each paying £1000 for to attend, do you really need to charge an admission fee as well?

The organiser said: “Events like this cost a lot to put on and any profits that are made will go back to the community interest company for future events, the charge is not about making profit.”

I would say a £1 admission charge is more than enough if that is your objective...

Slightly disingenuous, looking at the link in Bri's post, only the largest chalet type stalls were £1k, whilst the smallest stalls cost £300.

Still.....
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 20, 2017, 11:27:34 am
Found this link.
LLANDUDNO CHRISTMAS FAYRE COMMUNITY INTEREST COMPANY
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10470030/officers

I wonder why ‘Irene’ is known locally as ‘Eileen’

By the way, a community interest company is a special type of limited company which exists to benefit the community rather than private shareholders.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 20, 2017, 02:50:30 pm
Conwy food fair has proper entertainment. Case in point - If I want to see the Goat Roper Rodeo band play one of their own shows they are priced typically between £10 to 15 - same for the Welsh Pink Floyd. There I could see both of them and about 20 other quality acts for £9. Absolute bargain I would say. Z**

Spot on B2R,
And... if I want to see elderly arthritic people shuffling about in an uncoordinated manner, I can look in my bedroom mirror, or pop into Weatherspoons any afternoon of the week.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on November 20, 2017, 03:03:20 pm

And... if I want to see elderly arthritic people shuffling about in an uncoordinated manner, I can look in my bedroom mirror, or pop into Weatherspoons any afternoon of the week.

........or morning.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on December 04, 2017, 12:51:33 pm
Conwy food fair has proper entertainment. Case in point - If I want to see the Goat Roper Rodeo band play one of their own shows they are priced typically between £10 to 15 - same for the Welsh Pink Floyd. There I could see both of them and about 20 other quality acts for £9. Absolute bargain I would say. Z**

That does seem to be good value, but many people want to go to the food fair go for - you've guessed it, the food, not the entertainment. For them, it makes for an expensive experience.

For me, the entertainment is an even better bargain, I can sit and listen from across the estuary for nothing.  D)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? DEGANWY
Post by: SteveH on December 06, 2017, 01:07:48 pm
Developer lodges appeal after council’s refusal to allow 110 new homes in Deganwy

In September Conwy Council rejected Beech Developments' bid for planning permission.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/developer-lodges-appeal-after-councils-14001077 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/developer-lodges-appeal-after-councils-14001077)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 13, 2017, 04:37:28 pm
I’m told that Colwyn Road is currently completely closed by the Craigside Inn due to a dangerous cliff face. Diversions in place via Bryn Y Bia road but expect long delays.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on January 07, 2018, 07:21:20 pm
The walk up to the Viewing Point on the Orme was well worth it this evening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2018, 06:23:19 pm


Alcohol issues prompt Llandudno theatre security boost


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42565403 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42565403)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 08, 2018, 06:33:27 pm
Not before time ! :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 20, 2018, 10:17:15 pm
I walked around West Shore briefly on Friday, driven back by the bitter cold winds....
But I noticed that there were loads of the kite surfers (if that’s what it’s called) out on the estuary.
The tide was up, the waves were very high, and it was utterly freezing.
You can just about make out about 10 of them on these pictures.

I can’t believe that those wetsuits they wear can afford sufficient protection against that degree of cold, but evidently I’m wrong!
It was 1 degree only, and the windchill made it feel much lower.

Title: Re: What's Deganwy Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 22, 2018, 03:29:46 pm
Deganwy Marina put up for sale for £2.5m
The marina has been placed on the market by the Crown Estate.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/deganwy-marina-put-up-sale-13260824 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/deganwy-marina-put-up-sale-13260824)

the site - which includes 165 pontoon berths, a marina building, and showroom - has been sold to Lakeland Leisure Estates, which owns holiday parks and inland marinas.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/north-wales-marina-sold-expanding-14188115 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/north-wales-marina-sold-expanding-14188115)

http://www.lakelandleisuregroup.com (http://www.lakelandleisuregroup.com)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on February 02, 2018, 09:50:00 pm
Should make you smile!!!!
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-42919144 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-42919144)
Title: Re: National armed forces day 2018
Post by: SteveH on February 12, 2018, 01:36:21 pm
Armed Forces Day will leave hotels 'absolutely rammed'
The events could bring as many as 250,000 people into Conwy county and boost the economy by millions

It is being held as a thank you to the Royal Navy, Army, Royal Air Force, and veterans and will feature a military parade, flag raising ceremonies and a showcase of military vehicles, including helicopters, boats, and planes.

Events will be staged across the county between June 25 and July 1, with a parade on the main day in Llandudno on June 30.

We are using as many local suppliers as possible, many of whom have already benefitted. This was all planned as part of Conwy’s Events Strategy. We are also looking for volunteers for the day, as the event requires a cast of hundreds.”

If you would like to volunteer for Armed Forces Day, register for the parade, or want more information about the day

, visit www.conwy.gov.uk (http://www.conwy.gov.uk) and search ‘Armed Forces Day’.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/armed-forces-day-leave-hotels-14278358 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/armed-forces-day-leave-hotels-14278358)


http://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Spotlight/Armed-Forces-Covenant/Armed-Forces-Day-2018.aspx (http://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Spotlight/Armed-Forces-Covenant/Armed-Forces-Day-2018.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on February 12, 2018, 06:12:02 pm
I was disappointed to hear that there isn't going to be a Red Arrows display for Armed Forces Day. Llandudno has always been the best place anywhere to watch as you could actually look down on the planes from the Ormes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mondie on February 13, 2018, 04:28:09 pm
Amazed the Red Arrows would not come to such a prestigious military event. Hopefully, they overcompensate with some fast jets  :roll:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on February 13, 2018, 07:02:39 pm
Afraid not looking at the schedule, just three old Battle of Britain stalwarts. It makes me wonder what will be on display during the event.
I'm not sure if the Red arrows are actually appearing anywhere in the coming year, certainly can't find an announcement online.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 21, 2018, 05:30:22 pm
According to reports on FB. Mostyn Champney's is gridlocked, drivers waiting up to an hour and a half to get out, due to the new roadworks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 21, 2018, 09:55:39 pm
The traffic lights have been removed so in future traffic exiting Mostyn Champneys will simply filter into Conway Road.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 22, 2018, 11:43:40 am
I don’t remember any traffic lights there?
I know there are main ones at Asda, and pedestrian ones nearer Pets at Home.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 22, 2018, 12:08:05 pm
I believe it's the lights near the Pet store, Charlotte rd and Conwy rd. a mix of traffic and pedestrian, they have always been poor, only allowing a few cars at a time to leave MC, it will be interesting to see if this system works.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on February 22, 2018, 03:04:43 pm
The lights coming out from MC tend to average 7 cars at a time whereas many more can get through coming from town. Aldi traffic alone must have increased the pressure on those lights considerably over the last year or so as they claim an ever larger slice of the grocery pound.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Gwynant on February 22, 2018, 03:08:21 pm
I believe it's the lights near the Pet store, Charlotte rd and Conwy rd. a mix of traffic and pedestrian, they have always been poor, only allowing a few cars at a time to leave MC, it will be interesting to see if this system works.

       I spoke to a couple of lads on the site this morning and they told me they are putting in a Pelican Crossing across the road from Macdonald's to the Oak Furniture store, and it could take up to a month. To help the flow of traffic exiting the car park they were going to try and re-route the traffic from both the exits to turn right only and drive down to the junction with Mostyn Broadway and then all turn left and filter into the traffic going into town and then round past the Fire Station and back up the Links roundabout, rather than trying to cross the traffic to turn right to Craig-y-don etc. I don't know if that is the system  in action now as I had walked to ALDI as my neighbour took nearly an hour to drive out of the car park yesterday afternoon.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 22, 2018, 04:06:22 pm
I went to Aldi this morning Gwyant and all the road direction you mentioned are in place and seemed to be working well.  ££$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 24, 2018, 10:25:15 am
This Liverpool 'ghost ship' could launch daily sailings to Llandudno by next spring.

The hope is that the newly incorporated Liverpool & North Wales Steamship Company(LNWSC) will start running services from the city to Llandudno Pier and along the Menai Strait by May 2018.

“We are looking to start in May 2018 with the possibility of mooring the ship on Llandudno pier for evening dinner cruises, functions and birthday parties.”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/liverpool-ghost-ship-could-launch-12685852 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/liverpool-ghost-ship-could-launch-12685852)

A team transforming an abandoned “ghost ship” into a working cruiser to sail between Liverpool and North Wales are also on the verge of buying a second boat for the route.

The Daily Post revealed last year the newly incorporated Liverpool & North Wales Steamship Company had bought the ‘ghost’ vessel – renamed Endeavour – and had embarked on a massive restoration project

Work is well underway on the vessel with plans for sea trials to start next year and a launch of services between Liverpool, Llandudno and Anglesey in 2020
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/team-transforming-ghost-ship-sail-14330118 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/team-transforming-ghost-ship-sail-14330118)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 01, 2018, 12:51:32 am
Had a very quiet night out around the bars of Llandudno tonight.
Very few folk about, because it was -5 degrees, and then some (because of the biting North Easterly wind off the sea)

Noticeable though, that there was not a single ‘homeless’ person out tonight?

There is one notorious ‘homeless’ female around town, who seems to get quite a lot of donations, probably due to her vulnerability as a woman.
However, if you ask around a little, she is actually doing rather well for herself as a very prosperous drug dealer.  Also she is (allegedly) the ‘go to’ girl if you would like something from the local shops but don’t like the prices on display.
Never to be seen on the streets though, when the weather is inclement, strange don’t you think?



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 05, 2018, 01:39:40 pm
After the storms over the last week, all the extra sand that was put between the slipway and the pier has been reclaimed by the sea.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on March 05, 2018, 04:01:14 pm
Had a very quiet night out around the bars of Llandudno tonight.
Very few folk about, because it was -5 degrees, and then some (because of the biting North Easterly wind off the sea)

Noticeable though, that there was not a single ‘homeless’ person out tonight?

There is one notorious ‘homeless’ female around town, who seems to get quite a lot of donations, probably due to her vulnerability as a woman.
However, if you ask around a little, she is actually doing rather well for herself as a very prosperous drug dealer.  Also she is (allegedly) the ‘go to’ girl if you would like something from the local shops but don’t like the prices on display.
Never to be seen on the streets though, when the weather is inclement, strange don’t you think?

Hope restored put all of the homeless into bed and breakfasts whilst the weather was bad.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 05, 2018, 11:51:48 pm
Several of the Llandudno  ‘homeless’ have been outed on Facebook recently.
The actual addresses they live in, and pictures of them taking large bags of shopping home too.
Professional begging is a very lucrative enterprise, and tax free too!

An Ariva train employee told me about the girl from Chester who changes into rags each day in the train toilets, ... goes down to London and returns each night with very rich pickings indeed.

All this is ensuring that those who genuinely fall on hard times miss out on help, and get a bad name.
The woman who sits in the doorway next door to Trespass looks forlorn and in need of a handout, until you realise that she is a kingpin of drug dealing in the Llandudno area.
I’m being serious, it needs sorting out.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on March 06, 2018, 08:41:52 am
I told her yesterday to go home into the warm ,she went when she'd got enough money for the drugs 😡
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2018, 01:49:53 pm
After the storms over the last week, all the extra sand that was put between the slipway and the pier has been reclaimed by the sea.

A lot of sand debris by the cenotaph and the beach is mainly grit.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on March 06, 2018, 03:49:17 pm
An application has gone in for change of use to The Old Post Office, Vaughan Street, Llandudno to a children's soft play & sensory centre with a food & drinks area. Handy for young mum's to deposit hubby & children there while they shop  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on March 06, 2018, 04:46:29 pm
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo  :rage:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on March 06, 2018, 06:29:02 pm
Explain why not Born2run   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2018, 07:59:21 pm
Trouble is with a lot of these ventures is that they have no parking. The one at the junction of Arvon and Llewellyn Avenues offers no parking at all and on wet days we see families trailing their poor children in their party gear along the roads getting soaked. It's not the ideal place, nor will Vaughan St be .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 07, 2018, 11:38:12 am
After the storms over the last week, all the extra sand that was put between the slipway and the pier has been reclaimed by the sea.

A lot of sand debris by the cenotaph and the beach is mainly grit.
I was interested to see that the beach level between the slipway and the pier has actually dropped by around 2 foot since that storm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on March 08, 2018, 11:00:43 pm
Surprised no-one has brought this to the forum....

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/kingdoms-gwynedd-council-contract-shelved-14383864 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/kingdoms-gwynedd-council-contract-shelved-14383864)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 09, 2018, 09:07:01 am
Steve has brought it up already and it's posted under Kingdom Security, see the lists at the bottom of the home page
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on March 09, 2018, 12:43:42 pm
Thank you Hugo, I missed that. Still surprised about the lack of comment on the fact.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on March 13, 2018, 12:13:26 pm
Explain why not Born2run

That Bonkerz fun factory is noisier than an Iron Maiden concert  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on March 13, 2018, 02:05:00 pm
That Bonkerz fun factory is noisier than an Iron Maiden concert  &shake&
Sounds to me like the children are having fun, isn't the lack of entertainment for the younger population of Llandudno one of your main gripes Born2run
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on March 13, 2018, 04:13:21 pm
You can have fun without screeching like a wounded hyena $good$
Besides which there still isn't enough for older children to do, laser quest...that would have been worthwhile.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Mr Tunnock on March 14, 2018, 04:01:18 pm
  The town hall car park to be closed for the Victorian Extravaganza.
Well it is after all Harley the Clown running the event!

“The closure will result in 1100 parking spaces not being available for use over the long weekend.“

    http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16085588.Car_park_to_be_closed_for_one_of_Llandudno__39_s_busiest_weekends/ (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16085588.Car_park_to_be_closed_for_one_of_Llandudno__39_s_busiest_weekends/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: born2run on March 14, 2018, 04:52:04 pm
The Town Hall car park as in the one between the Town Hall and Wetherspoons? That surely holds nowhere near 1100 spaces?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on March 15, 2018, 12:34:35 am
Less than 150 I’d say, what’s going on?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on March 15, 2018, 09:10:12 am
Looking on Google Maps I can count 103 cars in the Town Hall car park, and there doesn't seem to be any empty parking spaces.  A typical case of mis-reporting.

According to the Victoria Centre website their multi-storey car park holds 365 cars.

Where is the car park in Llandudno that will take 1100 cars?

With careful control why not park along the Promenade - it is done for some major events.  You could have two rows the full stretch of the Prom and operate a one-way system - there are several ways on for vehicles - it's only for a couple of days, not a permanent car park.  Make a charge which would then be used for any clean-up operation required afterwards.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 18, 2018, 10:16:58 am
The Great Orme Tramway is set to re-open next weekend.

More than 40 trams will operate up and down the Orme in Llandudno beginning on Saturday, March 24 and will run seven days a week until early November.

With the re-opening of the line transport manager, Andrew Dawson, said motorists should take extra care while travelling in the area and note the access restrictions along Old Road.

Drivers are urged to take extra care, and adhere to the highway code, when negotiating the crossing at black gate junction on the lower section and at Church Road on the upper section.
Mr Dawson said past experiences have shown some individuals disregard the code, which can lead to vehicles coming into conflict with the tram.   ref Pioneer.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 20, 2018, 11:15:46 am
Looking on Google Maps I can count 103 cars in the Town Hall car park, and there doesn't seem to be any empty parking spaces.  A typical case of mis-reporting.

According to the Victoria Centre website their multi-storey car park holds 365 cars.

Where is the car park in Llandudno that will take 1100 cars?

With careful control why not park along the Promenade - it is done for some major events.  You could have two rows the full stretch of the Prom and operate a one-way system - there are several ways on for vehicles - it's only for a couple of days, not a permanent car park.  Make a charge which would then be used for any clean-up operation required afterwards.
My guess would be that they are counting each space several times, to take account of the fact that a car will be parked there for maybe 2 hours instead of all day?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bosun on March 20, 2018, 12:17:22 pm
Not just us then.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-43457987 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-43457987)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 31, 2018, 06:30:11 pm
I can understand why BTR speaks so highly about her and why the homeless people refer to her as "the Angel of Llandudno"    She's an incredible person      $good$


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzM2OTM3MDM4NzEmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9SktUSjRRWTdPWng4NXBUemg4NkkwdyZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=33693703871&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&si=36145&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=a436fd427560d05beda1dca0af03c854
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 03, 2018, 03:22:51 pm
Both Air ambulance and SAR936 Coastguard rescue attending incident on the Gt. Orme,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 03, 2018, 04:34:01 pm
Both Air ambulance and SAR936 Coastguard rescue attending incident on the Gt. Orme,
Rescue operation at Great Orme to save climber
A police spokesman says the man involved in the incident is believed to have fallen a short distance and was winched in, off a ledge into the helicopter and taken to hospital to be checked over.  refDP
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 21, 2018, 02:16:55 pm
BBC Wales are currently covering the Wales 2018 Labour Conference here in Llandudno.

I wonder does that blue sign say what I think it does?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 21, 2018, 02:28:59 pm
Yes....If you mean the Superbowl. Gives a good impression !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 26, 2018, 12:59:58 pm
Where is the Aerial Ladder Platform when Llandudno needs it?

Good luck to Llandudno Town Council.

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16182287.Battle_to_see_aerial_fire_ladder_return_to_Llandudno_continues/ (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16182287.Battle_to_see_aerial_fire_ladder_return_to_Llandudno_continues/)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on April 28, 2018, 09:45:35 pm
  Unsure where to place this post. However ---- its to do with bus transport in Llandudno.
    Local bus travellers will all be familiar with the Llandudno local bus service. The 25. But I would imagine both locals and definitely visitors would be surprised by this news. If passengers want to travel by bus on the local service from the railway station into Llandudno centre and onwards up the Orme, you don't wait at the bus stop outside the station. No. You walk across the road and catch the 25 around the corner to face North Western gardens (bog island). To add to the confusion the bus timetable in the shelter outside the railway station shows this service and its times. What it doesn't show ito the reader it goes from the other side of the road in the opposite direction.
  I know the reason. Its so that passengers from all the outlying housing estates can alight at north western and walk along moisten street. But this doesn't help the train passenger if he wants to go up the Orme. common sense ad any sense of direction would never guess the bus is going the opposite way
   A sign to this effect in the bus meter would help

Title: Number 26 bus.
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 29, 2018, 09:37:01 am
I am sorry to have to correct you, Mike, but the bus service you are referring to is now the number 26.

It is an excellent service for locals but I agree much more thought needs to be given to visitors.

During the winter months, the bus terminates at Ty’n y Coed and only travels up to the summit during the summer.

The more popular routes to the summit are the tram and cable car.

However, the number 26 bus is a cheaper option but is not very well advertised to benefit the visitors.

It is an hourly service but, sadly, does not run on a Sunday.

https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/wales/services/26---llandudno-circular/?direction=outbound (https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/wales/services/26---llandudno-circular/?direction=outbound)

P.S. - I wish someone would inform the printers that there is no longer a North Wales Medical Centre.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on April 29, 2018, 08:15:10 pm
So who went to the Food event on Bodafon Fields then? The weather was beautiful, much better than a wet and cold October that was the original plan. I'm sure those who bemoaned the objectors to the Queens Park event will surely now admit it was the right decision and of course can tell us all about yesterdays event which I must admit I didn't go to.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on April 30, 2018, 12:24:40 am
Bri, it’s also a little known fact that the No 26 is now only a quid a journey.
Ariva Bus reduced the fare months ago, in order to get more people on board.
But sadly they forgot to advertise it, so unless you actually get on the bus like I did last week, you would never know.
They are just throwing money away unfortunately, as I’m usually the only one aboard who actually pays to ride it!
Every one else is a pensioner.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 07, 2018, 10:52:49 pm
A family trapped on the sandbanks of the West Shore were rescued by the RNLI today.   It can be a dangerous spot as the tide comes in very quickly there but I thought that they were going to put a raft in that area to help people that have become stranded on the sand banks as I think that there was a fatality there some years ago




https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/family-trapped-incoming-tide-rescued-14626773 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/family-trapped-incoming-tide-rescued-14626773)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 08, 2018, 11:47:25 am
Almost sure the raft is in place. I was there this morning.
Horse, gate and bolted perhaps ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 08, 2018, 01:35:36 pm
Hugo if you stand at the top of the zig zag you can see how much the channel has changed  the pontoons are still out there  they have moved the harbour masters hut from the middle to just opp the Gogarth abbey site in my opinion he can't see properly from there + Not enough signage .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 08, 2018, 02:31:36 pm
mmmm. He was too busy talking this morning to notice a man on the beach with 5 dogs........................with no poo bags in evidence !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 08, 2018, 02:59:21 pm
Hugo if you stand at the top of the zig zag you can see how much the channel has changed  the pontoons are still out there  they have moved the harbour masters hut from the middle to just opp the Gogarth abbey site in my opinion he can't see properly from there + Not enough signage .

Thanks Norman,  I saw the tide coming in the other day and I thought at the time that the sandbanks have changed but I must admit that I haven't noticed the Harbour Masters hut before.  I'll have to pay more attention next time I go there.     ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mondie on May 09, 2018, 08:30:41 am
Who got out and enjoyed the Victorian Extravaganze over the weekend? The weather was fantastic and the crowds were out Sunday, in particular, seeing the whole town rammed. The parade was better this year than I remember last year, I love seeing all the old steam-powered tractors etc doing the circuit through Llandudnos streets. Local food/drink businesses seemed to be doing ok too from what I noticed. Its hard to see how this event was not a great success for the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 09, 2018, 08:45:41 am
I suspect the ride owners did well, but it doesn't seem to help the local businesses, apart from the hotels and eating places.  Very impressive watching the dismantling of the Ferris wheel in St George's Place, though; eight men and the tallest crane system I've ever seen in Llandudno simply folded the wheel into its trailer housing. I suspect that's one thing that we should have on permanent display.  Everywhere seems to have a giant Ferris wheel these days, and it would do wonderful business during the season.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Neil on May 09, 2018, 11:58:30 am
Here are some pics taken from the top of the Ferris Wheel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on May 09, 2018, 06:19:27 pm
Great photos Neil, thanks. Not the usual view of Llandudno.
It looks like your sea mist managed to keep itself a little bit away from land. We have been to Pembrokeshire and our coastal walks were rather spoilt by stubborn mist and generally poor weather.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 09, 2018, 11:09:38 pm
I suspect the ride owners did well, but it doesn't seem to help the local businesses, apart from the hotels and eating places.  Very impressive watching the dismantling of the Ferris wheel in St George's Place, though; eight men and the tallest crane system I've ever seen in Llandudno simply folded the wheel into its trailer housing. I suspect that's one thing that we should have on permanent display.  Everywhere seems to have a giant Ferris wheel these days, and it would do wonderful business during the season.

On the contrary, it helps the vast majority of local businesses.
Retail thrives in most forms, and it’s rare you can say that.
The sheer weight of numbers means that it’s a bonanza for most types of shops.
It used to be my 2nd best weekend of the whole year, second only to August Bank Holiday.
Other Pier traders used to moan that it didn’t help them.  But this year when I visited them they said that even they couldn’t complain.
The ride operators didn’t lose a minute due to bad weather for a change. I also think they were a little more sensible with their pricing this year.
All in all, a cracking extravaganza.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Neil on May 09, 2018, 11:13:55 pm
The sea mist threatened this area on Saturday and Sunday, but didn't
reach land in many areas. I drove from Manchester to Scarborough one sunny bank holiday years ago only to be confronted by a sea mist! Crazy days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 10, 2018, 08:20:14 am
I suspect the ride owners did well, but it doesn't seem to help the local businesses, apart from the hotels and eating places. 

On the contrary, it helps the vast majority of local businesses.
Retail thrives in most forms, and it’s rare you can say that.
The sheer weight of numbers means that it’s a bonanza for most types of shops.
It used to be my 2nd best weekend of the whole year, second only to August Bank Holiday.

I based my comment on the number of years I've talked with store owners in Mostyn and Madoc streets and their reluctance to contribute to the running cost of the event because it didn't bring people into the stores. For the 22 years it's been run, the store owners - with the exception of the eating places - have repeatedly argued that the weekend does nothing for local businesses - even the reverse.

I'd be interested to hear from any store owner who said differently, and - if so - I'll copy it into here. But certainly the larger shops have always argued it does nothing for them whatsoever.

This last weekend, of course, was the warmest on record and widely predicted to be, so that may have had some effect. If  so, good;  that's what the event was originally intended to do.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on May 10, 2018, 08:13:17 pm
It’s mixed bag, the further I enquire.
One lady on Madoc St said she had a great few days, another from the Littlewoods shop said it had been dead.   Neither sell food and drink, so it’s not consistent.
All those I spoke to on the Pier said they ‘couldn’t complain’. That makes a change!
But, the weather certainly helped, except for the sea mist which made it freezing on there.
Sainsbury’s in Mostyn St was continually busy, and struggled to get supplies of basics.... but we are talking food, drink, cigs, etc again.
A lady who has an independent shop on Mostyn St said it had been disastrous for her, and had completely wasted her time opening.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 10, 2018, 08:57:21 pm
We were talking to the checkout operator in aldi Monday eve he said the car park was quiet all day also the shops were quiet . I think the locals had done the shopping days before .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 11, 2018, 08:17:14 am
I think you're right, Norman. There's a type of siege mentality that takes hold among the locals on that bank holiday, with many going away and some simply staying in.

Overall, I think the event was wonderful when it first started. But it burns out the organisers, who have to manage the event continuously on the Saturday morning, so few can stay the course and run it for more than three years. Compound that with the immense egos of a small number of individuals who combine selfish arrogance with utter unreliability and you have the perfect recipe for disaster.

In 1990, the event was very nearly brought to its knees by the actions of one man, whose unbelievable immaturity and stupidity was equalled only by his utter ineptitude and selfishness. Ah - the stories I could tell...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 11, 2018, 09:22:50 am
My story from the very first one in 1986 outside Llandudno Railway Station will take some beating, Ian.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 11, 2018, 10:54:01 am
Do tell....... ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 11, 2018, 12:24:57 pm
Ah...go on, go on, go on, GO ON!  :D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 11, 2018, 01:27:39 pm
As a member of Llandudno Round Table, I had the task of directing the traffic outside Llandudno Railway Station.

A fleet of steam rollers had been stored securely overnight within the station complex.

There was normal traffic travelling along Vaughan Street.

If any steam roller was not quick enough, I put my hand up to stop it so the normal traffic had priority.

A well-known town councillor quite rightly told me off and explained why.

I had never seen these steam rollers before 1986 so it was certainly a lesson learnt and a job role I was never appointed to ever again.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 15, 2018, 03:26:30 pm
Llandudno high street on list of those 'struggling to survive' in report that has been slammed
The Retail Resilience Index was not good reading for the seaside resort - but has been attacked locally.

www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-high-street-list-those-14660672 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-high-street-list-those-14660672)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 16, 2018, 10:58:10 am
Llandudno high street on list of those 'struggling to survive' in report that has been slammed
The Retail Resilience Index was not good reading for the seaside resort - but has been attacked locally.

www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-high-street-list-those-14660672 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-high-street-list-those-14660672)
The Report is ridiculous - I suspect Llandudno is one of the most thriving towns, as far as levels of empty shops go.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 16, 2018, 11:51:30 am
The full report is here. (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwip-o_qhorbAhWQyqQKHQq2CLQQFggvMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cushmanwakefield.com%2F~%2Fmedia%2Freports%2Fuk%2FUK_High_Streets_Dead_or_Alive%2520(1).pdf&usg=AOvVaw3XT0LApHq83xIl-HZea4QN)

It's a complicated bit of research, which uses a number of variables and I suspect their rather odd technique of placing their findings as a simple 'top 10 - bottom 10' at the outset was not only a case of oversimplification but also failed to reflect the complexity of the measures they'd used.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 16, 2018, 12:40:21 pm
The full report is here. (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwip-o_qhorbAhWQyqQKHQq2CLQQFggvMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cushmanwakefield.com%2F~%2Fmedia%2Freports%2Fuk%2FUK_High_Streets_Dead_or_Alive%2520(1).pdf&usg=AOvVaw3XT0LApHq83xIl-HZea4QN)

It's a complicated bit of research, which uses a number of variables and I suspect their rather odd technique of placing their findings as a simple 'top 10 - bottom 10' at the outset was not only a case of oversimplification but also failed to reflect the complexity of the measures they'd used.
Llandudno high street on list of those 'struggling to survive' in report that has been slammed
The Retail Resilience Index was not good reading for the seaside resort - but has been attacked locally.

www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-high-street-list-those-14660672 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-high-street-list-those-14660672)
The Report is ridiculous - I suspect Llandudno is one of the most thriving towns, as far as levels of empty shops go.

I agree with you both, for such a seemingly extensive report, to end up with ranking Llandudno so low in their rankings is ridiculous.

The Grimsey Review was mentioned in their report, I had a quick look, very interesting reading......

" I spent
my entire career professing that,
“there are never any problems only
opportunities” and that is true for our
country. Our towns and high streets
can become the driving force behind
a real economic recovery,
we just need the political will
and determination to take
meaningful action.
Bill Grimsey"

Full Review
http://www.vanishinghighstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/GrimseyReview04.092.pdf (http://www.vanishinghighstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/GrimseyReview04.092.pdf)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on May 18, 2018, 09:59:23 am
They are currently filming scenes for Hollyoaks on the prom outside the St Georges hotel:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on May 18, 2018, 02:09:33 pm
Anybody  Know what happened to ‘Llandudno  Motorcycle repairs ‘ Nant y Gamar Rd. appears to have closed down?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 20, 2018, 11:03:35 am
Lots of activity early this morning, sirens and helicopters, various FB rumors, BBC has this.....

Llandudno angler airlifted after falling into sea.
An angler has been airlifted to hospital after falling into the sea while fishing from rocks at Llandudno's Great Orme headland.

A second person who went into the sea to help the angler was treated by paramedics for being "extremely cold".

Llandudno RNLI and HM Coastguard received the callout off Pigeons Cave, Pen Trwyn, at 07:36 BST.

RNLI volunteers took the angler to shore for the airlift before returning to rescue the second person from rocks.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on May 20, 2018, 11:05:48 am
Looks as thought Llandudno Prom is a big car park today !!!

https://www.porscheclubgb.com/regions-registers/regions/wales/south-wales/events/2018/may/an-invitation-to-attend-the-porsche-on-the-prom (https://www.porscheclubgb.com/regions-registers/regions/wales/south-wales/events/2018/may/an-invitation-to-attend-the-porsche-on-the-prom)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 20, 2018, 11:58:06 am
Lots of activity early this morning, sirens and helicopters, various FB rumors, BBC has this.....

Llandudno angler airlifted after falling into sea.
An angler has been airlifted to hospital after falling into the sea while fishing from rocks at Llandudno's Great Orme headland.
A second person who went into the sea to help the angler was treated by paramedics for being "extremely cold".
Llandudno RNLI and HM Coastguard received the callout off Pigeons Cave, Pen Trwyn, at 07:36 BST.
RNLI volunteers took the angler to shore for the airlift before returning to rescue the second person from rocks.

Sad news following the above....
A man has died this morning (Sunday) after falling into the sea in Llandudno.
At around 7.30am North Wales Police said they received a call reporting a man had fallen into the sea in Llandudno.

The Coastguards attended and rescued one man who was taken to hospital but who has since died.

Another man who had tried to help at the incident was also taken to hospital but isn't believed to be badly injured
REF Pioneer
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Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2018, 10:41:44 am
Lots of sirens on this wet Sunday morning, .........from the Coastguard.

People Stuck on Great Orme
Reports from Coastguard that people are stuck on a ledge towards the bottom on the Great Orme. Two RNLI crews and coastguard staff in attendance.
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Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2018, 11:10:12 am
Lots of sirens on this wet Sunday morning, .........from the Coastguard.

People Stuck on Great Orme
Reports from Coastguard that people are stuck on a ledge towards the bottom on the Great Orme. Two RNLI crews and coastguard staff in attendance.

Gt Orme Rescue
A man who was stranded towards the base of the Great Orme got into difficulty this morning. A coastguard rescue team, RNLI crew and Rescue 936 Coastguard helicopter were at the scene after being called at 8.43am this morning.

The man has since moved further up the Orme and is now out of danger after there were concerns for his safety due to the incoming tide.
Holyhead Coastguard say the man is now warm and safe and crews are preparing to stand down.
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Post by: Hugo on June 05, 2018, 02:45:16 pm
The promenade was packed today at midday with many going to see the classic cars on display.     I couldn't resist taking this photo and it shows two of the many classic clangers made by the CCBC.
One is obvious in the foreground  and the other has yet to be constructed
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Post by: Hugo on June 05, 2018, 03:42:24 pm
OOPS,  missing photo now attached
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Post by: Michael on June 21, 2018, 12:57:44 pm
Hi, moderators take a look. Maybe racial descrimination. I don’t know. But I just state facts.
   Yesterday morning on the golf. A terrible very light mist and rain in which you got absolute soaking wet in seconds. So I sat in cafe in town and went up around midday.
   Imagine my surprise when I went through the gate. Well over 100 youngish girls and a dozen or so leaders all sat around my 2nd and 9greens, which are alongside each other. In the rain.
  I approached a leader. “What have I done to get this attention from you all.” Reply “ we from Manchester. On way to top of Orme. Just having halfway picnic.” By now it obvious to anyone they were of a particular religious faith. My reply. Well o.k. But don’t make mess on these greens. And I gave them a smile.
  After ten minutes they left off to the top. Greens looked tidy. Half hour later a local walking up home said to me there’s a pile of rubbish down the hill by your first green. I was’ent pleased. But she then said “I’ve found a bit of screwed up A4 paper all printed with Arabic words and letters. Here. You can have it.”
   So know I didn’t need it. But I knew for sure who had left it.
  But now a surprise. You would have expected them to feel a bit guilty and dodge coming back this way. Not a bit of it. About an hour later all 100 plus of them arrive to walk down. No shame. I let around fifty through the gate. Then grabbed one of the leaders. Hey you. I want a word. A strong word. What the h——s you think you doing. I not paid to shift your rubbish. You clear it up or this page (I waved the A4 letter” will be phoned and sent to one of your faith periodicals and say that’s what you do on your day trip to llandudno.
  In fairness the teacher did apologise and they did pick up most of the rubbish.
   But to anyone who lives around church walks. If you got rubbish thrown in your garden, I can guess where it came from mike
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Post by: Hugo on June 21, 2018, 05:18:58 pm
Send for Kingdom Securities Mike,  there is no way that they would drop any litter then if they thought that it would cost them money!
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Post by: Hugo on June 21, 2018, 05:26:59 pm
Burger Dan near Norwich named as place to get Britain’s best bacon butty, now here's a challenge Mike you could have made a packet yesterday
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Post by: Michael on June 21, 2018, 09:32:57 pm
Hi Hugo, Am I the "Mike" you refereeing to? If so---I don't for a moment to expect you know but I did have a hot dog van around 35 years ago. It didn't last long. I wasn't suited to that trade.  I used to be bored if no customers. Then I used to get easily hassled if i had a sudden rush. So I took on a helper on a wage. Then there were two people bored at my expense
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Post by: snowcap on June 21, 2018, 11:11:35 pm
yes but you did'nt have the forum to pass your time away then Mike. (see you soon )
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Post by: Fester on June 25, 2018, 12:04:15 am
Estimates range from 150k to 300k people who will ATTEMPT to visit Llandudno for the Armed Forces Day.
I can’t imagine the town with up to TEN times the number of visitors that we get on Extravaganza bank hol.  (That’s if 250k try to attend)
The crowd management, the traffic, and the toilet situation are bad enough with 25k visitors.
It’s unimaginable.
The A55 has only 2 lanes and no hard shoulder. How will ambulances be able to get to and from hospitals?
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Post by: Ian on June 25, 2018, 07:57:12 am
We won't be here over the weekend, although there's a bit of me that would have liked to have been. But we'll be driving the A55 against the flow coming to Llandudno so that could be interesting.
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Post by: Ian on June 25, 2018, 05:39:31 pm
One thing which Conwy needs to get moving is the installation of roadside charge points for EVs (electric vehicles).  There are a few stages to this, but other towns have already done it so Conwy should (!!!) be able to follow their lead.

With the banning of all diesel and I suspect significant tax increases on petrol vehicles Conwy needs to act now to get ahead of the curve on this.  Here's what they need to do...;

1.  Apply to the WA for the funding (the WA has a couple of million which they've been trying to give away).
2.  Determine where on the roads the charge points will go.
3.  Amend or create traffic orders to allow for specific kerbside charge point bays to be painted on the road
4.  Amend or create a traffic order empowering traffic enforcement officers to ticket non-EV cars parked in the charge point bays.

A fairly easy and straightforward process which will play a vital part in encouraging visitors here and only a council not fit for purpose would not have implemented some part of those plans already. Wonder if Conwy has?
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Post by: mondie on June 25, 2018, 08:22:58 pm
Agreed Ian, mate of mine made the charging points at the Beaumaris leisure centre happen. He did the funding application and the centre now has a source of revenue for years to come. A great amenity for the town too.
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Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2018, 11:11:51 am
CCBC has installed a couple of EV Charging Points on the new Prom in Colwyn Bay (next to the new refreshment kiosk). Ian's quite right, as the EV revolution gathers pace, Conwy should be ahead of the curve in installing charging points, not lagging behind as usual.
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Post by: DaveR on June 26, 2018, 11:18:03 am
HMS Somerset will be arriving in Llandudno Bay on Friday afternoon for Armed Forces Day on the Saturday.

I believe the Prime Minister will be attending the event on Saturday, in addition to Princess Anne. Sadly, the Leader of the Labour Party did not think the event important enough for him to attend..
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Post by: Hugo on June 30, 2018, 02:28:18 pm
Armed Forces Day in Llandudno draws big crowds


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44613287 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44613287)
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Post by: Dave on June 30, 2018, 03:12:02 pm
From the top of Nant-y-Gamar it didn't look that busy in town but compared to a usual summer Saturday, yes the prom was packed.
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Post by: Hugo on June 30, 2018, 04:44:52 pm
Nice photos Dave
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Post by: A 7 A on June 30, 2018, 09:44:01 pm
Great Photos,... I wishI could have been there today but was working
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Post by: Hugo on June 30, 2018, 10:32:59 pm
Some more photos from today's Armed Forces Day


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/armed-forces-day-llandudno-pictures-14850271 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/armed-forces-day-llandudno-pictures-14850271)
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Post by: SteveH on July 01, 2018, 12:51:04 pm
I had a great day, I managed the parade and the air display, which was tremendous, it was announced that due to the good weather, we got the full Red Arrows repertoire, the Memorial flight (a little disappointed as not very close to shore, HS rearing it's head) however always good to see, and the new Typhoon's powerful display on full military power, using 600 litres  of fuel a minute, an extremely impressive finale.

It will be interesting to see the numbers of visitors quoted, initially I thought it was a lot less than expected, however during the Airshow, I could see from the pier to the RNLI station, both the prom and the beach were packed.

An excellent event, marred by the lack of information, and a Seagull's lack of respect for my clothing.  :'(

Just found this U tube page of the days videos....

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=armed+forces+day+llandudno+2018 (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=armed+forces+day+llandudno+2018)
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Post by: Fester on July 02, 2018, 11:17:31 pm
We had an excellent time viewing the entire Armed Forces spectacular from a high vantage point, Pen Dinas on the Gt Orme, looking directly down into the town.
Apart from everything which has been described, I was able to see the that the town was entirely empty except for the Prom.
Mostyn St was easy to park on, and there was fewer people than an Extravaganza.
I’ve been in many, many football crowds over the years, and based on what I saw, I’d say there was a maximum of 15,000 people in Llandudno.  Perhaps 10,000.
One guy who was drafted in to marshal cars at a Park and Ride said that they had NO ONE turn up at all!
Several local businesses had put on extra staff, and subsequently sent them home, plus they had large quantities of perishable stock go to waste.
Regardless of this, it was an excellent display all round, but I wonder who is responsible for making those outlandish predictions and how they came to those figures?





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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2018, 06:35:40 am
Yes, who came up with those predictions of 250,000 people coming? We had warning signs of delays on the A55 for at least two weeks! We kept away as we thought it would be chaos, looks like many others thought the same!
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 03, 2018, 01:26:53 pm
I think we are provided with similar statistics with the Wales GB Rally when all the spectators are not on the promenade this time but on the pavements in Mostyn Street from the Carlton Buffet down to North West Gardens.
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Post by: Dave on July 03, 2018, 07:43:28 pm
So, if the attendance figures are way out so must be the claimed benefit to the local economy.
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Post by: norman08 on July 03, 2018, 10:56:22 pm
I know one pub has said they are more busy when the scooter lads/ girls come here , I think all the pre estemates put a lot of people off comming .
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Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 04, 2018, 07:49:02 am
Those estimates kept us well away, perhaps that was the intention? Would still like to know how they guess these visitor numbers!
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Post by: mondie on July 04, 2018, 01:02:38 pm
Agree crowds were nothing like the outlandish predictions which no doubt helped to ensure they were never going to be anything but. Town felt a lot more relaxed than the Extravaganza in May but hard to tell as the crowd was more evenly distributed right along the prom.

It was a fantastic day though, the airshow over the bay was truly a memorable spectacle.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1784/28291239947_865b10f95c_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K6ZZZ6)DSFG5845 (Large) (https://flic.kr/p/K6ZZZ6) by Simon Gee (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151329652@N05/), on Flickr
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Post by: Dave on July 04, 2018, 01:34:13 pm
Why did they need to include a tacky fun fair in the military zone though?
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Post by: Fester on July 04, 2018, 09:03:12 pm
I preferred this improvised display by the Red Arrows.  ;)

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Post by: SteveH on July 05, 2018, 12:30:57 pm
Yes, who came up with those predictions of 250,000 people coming? We had warning signs of delays on the A55 for at least two weeks! We kept away as we thought it would be chaos, looks like many others thought the same!

I think the Daily Post started very early on, quoting the figures from the 2017 Liverpool AFD, of 250,000 and it never changed, speaking to a local councilor, I was told there top expectation was approx. 80,000.

I agree with your comment "kept away as we thought it would be chaos"  I think the constant mention of 250,000 visitors  backfired big time, like yourself a lot of locals did the same, plus thoughts of getting stuck on the A55 by those further afield, did not help.

Something else, the program stated a "fly past" by the Red Arrows and the Memorial Flight, no mention of a full display equal to an Air Show, this I think was a serious error, like I said before, the biggest problem was a lack of information.

 
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Post by: DaveR on July 09, 2018, 09:58:05 am
Mostyn Broadway from Bog Island to the Swimming Pool is closed for 2 weeks to permit demolition of the Tudno Castle Hotel.
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Post by: Nemesis on July 09, 2018, 10:39:03 am
Just had to negotiate my way to Craig-Y-Don and back, so I used the prom. Fine if all the coaches didn't decide to park/load and unload in the middle of the road ! >:(
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 09, 2018, 11:02:59 am
I wonder does the old Order still apply or are CCBC in breach of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 Section 14(1)?

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Post by: Hugo on July 09, 2018, 11:14:16 am
A good point Bri, but as it's Mostyn Estates then they will turn a blind eye to it.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on July 09, 2018, 11:33:02 am
Fair point, Hugo.
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Post by: DaveR on July 11, 2018, 09:58:28 am
Demolition!
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Post by: DaveR on July 13, 2018, 12:10:33 pm
About half of the Tudno Castle Hotel is now completely gone:
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Post by: Dave on July 13, 2018, 12:47:33 pm
The castle might be nearly gone but there seems to be a lot more turrets around as a result of the traffic disruption ;)
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Post by: born2run on July 24, 2018, 12:29:56 pm
Apologies for the source but an interesting article about punch and judy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5985747/GMB-embroiled-race-row-host-Kate-Garraway-forces-guest-away-offensive-puppet.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5985747/GMB-embroiled-race-row-host-Kate-Garraway-forces-guest-away-offensive-puppet.html)

What are your thoughts? Is that puppet offensive?
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Post by: norman08 on July 24, 2018, 03:35:57 pm
Thank god I grew up in the 50/60s the world has gone mad ,watching Tom & Gerry did I go out and batter a cat No too many more to mention, my Grandson watched punch& Judy yesterday he couldn't stop laughing . Sad old world we live in nowadays .😢
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Post by: Dave on July 24, 2018, 04:16:27 pm
I think what is really sad is that racism still exists and for as long as it does you have to be careful in the motives of anything remotely associated with it.
In the process have we become too sensitive? Possibly, but only if you are still subjected to racism are you in a position to give a valid response.


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Post by: OrmeMac on July 24, 2018, 04:23:04 pm
Sadly things have gone too far when people are employed to help meet quotas rather than being best able to do the job.
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Post by: Dave on July 24, 2018, 04:39:36 pm
Sadly things have gone too far when people are employed to help meet quotas rather than being best able to do the job.

I tend to agree but when you discover that there are so many areas of unjustified inequality, and not just based on race, it's hardly surprising that some try to redress or repress the balance.
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Post by: DVT on July 24, 2018, 04:41:25 pm
So, it's OK for modern films and video games that kids play to have violence, shootings and killing between "real" people but it's not OK to have some woodentops, regardless of colour, hitting each other.

It seems that the "minorities" (whether due to race, sexuality, disability, gender, etc) wanting equality don't just want equality, they want to have extra - some are more equal than others.

Treat everyone the same, equally.
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Post by: Quiggs on July 24, 2018, 05:04:33 pm
And you cannot change the past
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Post by: born2run on July 24, 2018, 05:21:11 pm
Sadly things have gone too far when people are employed to help meet quotas rather than being best able to do the job.

That's simply not true. Proportionately to the population then there should be an equal amount of people from each ethnicity working in any given role (ie if for example there are 4% of Asian people in the populous then it's fair to say roughly 4 out of every 100 people employed in whatever role it happens to be should be Asian). If this isn't shown then somewhere along the line there has been discrimination, and it's important to have these standards to put that right. It is simply about redressing the balance.
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Post by: born2run on July 24, 2018, 05:27:59 pm
So, it's OK for modern films and video games that kids play to have violence, shootings and killing between "real" people but it's not OK to have some woodentops, regardless of colour, hitting each other.

It seems that the "minorities" (whether due to race, sexuality, disability, gender, etc) wanting equality don't just want equality, they want to have extra - some are more equal than others.

Treat everyone the same, equally.

1) I think you'll find that those games and films are 18 rated. So no it is not considered ok that kids are playing them, it is illegal for kids to purchase them.

2) gender is not a 'minority' girls and boys are pretty evenly churned out

3) How can you treat disabled people equally to able bodied people? Are you going to tell blind people to look where they are going when they are crossing the road? Of course you need to make adjustments!

4) Your whole argument has no basis in any fact other than hearsay at best.
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Post by: DaveR on July 25, 2018, 09:44:34 am
That's simply not true. Proportionately to the population then there should be an equal amount of people from each ethnicity working in any given role (ie if for example there are 4% of Asian people in the populous then it's fair to say roughly 4 out of every 100 people employed in whatever role it happens to be should be Asian). If this isn't shown then somewhere along the line there has been discrimination, and it's important to have these standards to put that right. It is simply about redressing the balance.
You're absolutely right, but the problem is, it only works one way. We never hear any concerns mentioned for industries or jobs where white or males are in a minority.

A quick example, the BBC:

"45% of the 2015 Television Production apprentices are black, Asian and ethnic minority with 64% coming from families where neither parent attended university. Across our 2015 Digital Journalism apprentices 50% are black, Asian and ethnic minority with 60% coming from families where neither parent attended university."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/diversity/strategy/eir-2016 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/diversity/strategy/eir-2016)

Being as that black, Asian and ethnic minority people account for approx 12% of the population, I take it that you would regard the above figures as unacceptable and agree that it should be redressed?
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Post by: Ian on July 25, 2018, 10:23:39 am
 ;D ;D ;D

I think this is the first time this forum has tackled such an inherently sensitive and important issue.

I suspect the BBC's figures are rather atypical of UK employers generally. This is possibly because they're under enormous pressure from Government and the competing media, not least the venomous bile ejaculated by the DFM's editor.

B2R: you're talking positive discrimination when you say "Proportionately to the population then there should be an equal amount of people from each ethnicity working in any given role". Opponents of positive discrimination claim it runs counter to the concept that it should always be the best person for the job irrespective of race, colour, creed or gender preference.

The question which then arises is do we assume a homogeneity of ability, intellect, desire and talent in all communities?

I suspect it's not helped when groups such as West Mercia Police release this sort of thing in relation to those suspected of having thrown acid at a three year old: "West Mercia Police said it would not be releasing the identities of the men who have been charged." The question that arises is why have they not done that?

We're currently in what's become a six week long heatwave - and it's not just here;  around the globe countries are experiencing above average temperatures and below average rainfall.  Why am I mentioning this? Because every serious civil disturbance in the UK over the last fifty years has occurred during hot and dry weather. And most have been linked to deprivation or race.

The reason the UK has strong legislation in place in respect of racially-aggravated crimes and race relations in general is precisely because society can break down if sufficient groups believe they are being treated unfairly.

The flip side of that particular coin is that the cultural aspirations of some groups are so wildly different to what we often see as the 'Traditional English village' ethos, assimilation of those groups does present enormous challenges.

As an aside millions, possibly billions, have been killed in the name of religion, because they spoke a different language or because their skin was a different shade to the person wielding the sword / gun / bow / machete.  It seems, therefore, that the greatest threat to society is posed by religion, language and colour.

 
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Post by: born2run on August 22, 2018, 12:10:04 pm
(https://adobeindd.com/view/publications/2d69b765-c4aa-4066-b53f-35d0d87ead06/1/publication-web-resources/image/POSTER-FOR-BRO-MONDAY-13TH-22.06.png)

On the promenade this weekend and it's FREE!
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Post by: SteveH on August 22, 2018, 12:27:49 pm
Re.  TVWstock music festival previous page

Thank's for that,...... found this link, a 12 page programme of  who and when.

https://indd.adobe.com/view/2d69b765-c4aa-4066-b53f-35d0d87ead06
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Post by: born2run on August 23, 2018, 12:21:11 pm
Cheers Steve - hopefully the weather will hold up  8)
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Post by: Bri Roberts on August 23, 2018, 02:30:03 pm
It looks excellent and all for a very good cause.  :)
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Post by: SteveH on September 05, 2018, 10:49:32 am
'Remember remember' not November for Llandudno fireworks but October!

This year’s show at North Shore beach will take place on Saturday, October 27, before British Summer Time has ended and several days prior to Halloween and Bonfire Night.

Llandudno Town Council said the date was considered the most “favourable”, being chosen for safety reasons and as it fitted in with the tides.
Later dates were deemed unsuitable, including November 10 which is the night before Remembrance Sunday.

Cllr Greg Robbins, chairman of the council’s fireworks sub-committee, said: "Believe me, a lot of work - months of worth - goes into this display.
“A firework display is not always on November 5, traditionally it is around that date.
“Looking at the tides, it can be a difficult act. We want to put on a spectacular show but safety is paramount.
“We were very close last year when the tides came in quicker than we thought.
“We have our new venue of the beach and a spectacular backdrop, but it is dependent on mother nature and the tides.”

Town councillor Frank Bradfield, former mayor of Llandudno,it was important to emphasis that the fireworks display - one of the largest in North Wales - was “nothing to do with Guy Fawkes”.

"“We are very sympathetic to the date being inconvenient in some cases, but it is all determined by the tides.”
Should it be bad weather on the Saturday, back-up dates of October 28 or October 29 have been scheduled."   ref Pioneer

Full article http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16687173.remember-remember-not-november-for-llandudno-fireworks-but-october/ (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16687173.remember-remember-not-november-for-llandudno-fireworks-but-october/)
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Post by: DaveR on September 06, 2018, 09:15:09 am
Has the Extravaganza Twitter feed been hijacked by someone from Blackpool?

https://twitter.com/Extravaganza567
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Post by: Ian on September 06, 2018, 09:56:46 am
It would seem so.
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Post by: SteveH on September 06, 2018, 03:07:32 pm
Has the Extravaganza Twitter feed been hijacked by someone from Blackpool?

https://twitter.com/Extravaganza567

Very confusing ?
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Post by: Hugo on September 08, 2018, 11:47:55 am
'Remember remember' not November for Llandudno fireworks but October!

Town councillor Frank Bradfield, former mayor of Llandudno,it was important to emphasis that the fireworks display - one of the largest in North Wales - was “nothing to do with Guy Fawkes”.

"“We are very sympathetic to the date being inconvenient in some cases, but it is all determined by the tides.”
Should it be bad weather on the Saturday, back-up dates of October 28 or October 29 have been scheduled."   ref Pioneer

Full article http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16687173.remember-remember-not-november-for-llandudno-fireworks-but-october/ (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16687173.remember-remember-not-november-for-llandudno-fireworks-but-october/)


If it's nothing to do with Guy Fawkes then why is it held so near Bonfire night?        ???
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Post by: Dave on September 08, 2018, 02:26:45 pm
Must admit, in my opinion it would be better to just have one local display in Colwyn Bay for the traditional November date and to keep the money for a totally different fireworks event that might benefit local tourism even more, New Year,Extravaganza weekend or similar events to Armed Forces Day.
Might it fill more hotel rooms or maybe it does already with the November date?
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Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2018, 10:45:09 am
Llandudno nightclub and sports bar Club 147 has closed.
The management at the nightspot off Upper Mostyn Street announced this afternoon that the venue was shutting.
They added that the club had now been sold, no details on new owner.   ref DP
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Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2018, 10:49:52 am
Llandudno nightclub and sports bar Club 147 has closed.
The management at the nightspot off Upper Mostyn Street announced this afternoon that the venue was shutting.
They added that the club had now been sold, no details on new owner.   ref DP
It's been for sale for a long time and the price has been reduced several times. Think it was down to £300,000 the last time I looked.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 05, 2018, 12:34:10 pm
The old furniture shop, Bryant & Hocknell  on Gloddaeth Street, is going to be developed into 16 flats for social housing.
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Post by: mull on October 05, 2018, 05:13:07 pm
Did that shop used to have a canopy outside on the corner ?

If so I remember sheltering under it one afternoon in  a blizzard waiting to catch a tram back to Penrhynside,probably 1956.
Happy days.
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Post by: wrex on October 07, 2018, 06:24:45 pm
how did rally go
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Post by: Quiggs on October 08, 2018, 02:11:30 pm
“FAST”,  Sorry couldn’t resist it.  Great success by all accounts, apart from an accident by two motorcycles during a display.    :'(
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Post by: Meleri on October 08, 2018, 04:28:22 pm
Good to hear Steve. It's about time more social housing was built for the over 60's freeing up larger properties for families and on brownfield sites instead of Greenfields ;D
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Post by: Nemesis on October 08, 2018, 06:05:00 pm
“FAST”,  Sorry couldn’t resist it.  Great success by all accounts, apart from an accident by two motorcycles during a display.    :'(

The rider who was seriously injured was 7 years old.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 14, 2018, 04:54:44 pm
Walking into town today I passed The Queen of Hearts, wooden statue on Gloddaeth St, and noticed the concrete base is concaved and holding water, and although the statue is a large sculpture, the rot has set in, and will only speed up if left unattended, not sure if others are affected.
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Post by: Bri Roberts on October 21, 2018, 03:44:13 pm
Britain in Bloom result ....... GOLD for Llandudno.
Well done to all involved.  $walesflag$

It appears Llandudno have been beaten by Colwyn Bay in 2018.


http://www.walesinbloom.org.uk/congratulations-and-blossoming-bed-competition (http://www.walesinbloom.org.uk/congratulations-and-blossoming-bed-competition)

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Post by: llandudnotrust on October 22, 2018, 09:28:23 am
Llandudno didn't enter this year but we did get Gold in Wales in Bloom and 5 Blooms in the International competition along with a "hatful" of RHS top prizes for the Likes of Happy Valley, Haulfre Gardens and Ysgol San sior etc.
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Post by: DVT on October 26, 2018, 10:26:47 am
Talking with some people off a coach visiting Bodnant Garden the other day and they were all full of praise for Llandudno - lovely place, nice and clean, wonderful promenade ... and were really praising the hotel they were all staying at ... the Brig-y-Don.  The party were all from the Cornwall and Devon area, and really enjoing "our" patch.

Nice to hear such positive comments.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 26, 2018, 02:34:26 pm
Nice to hear such positive comments because it just to drives home how lucky we are to live in an extraordinarily stunning place.

now if we could just have some things that visitors, we are told here, want to come to ................................





we might just ruin the place!
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Post by: Dave on October 26, 2018, 10:10:44 pm
Saturday's firework display postponed until Sunday.
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Post by: SteveH on October 27, 2018, 10:43:04 am
Saturday's firework display postponed until Sunday.

We heard the test firing last night, shortly after the Gritter truck passed, and thought there had been an accident !..... bit more info from the Pioneer.

LLANDUDNO's fireworks display has been postponed until Sunday due to the bad weather.
The display was due to be held tonight at the town's North Shore. It will now take place tomorrow (Sunday) at 7pm.

Concerns were raised by the town council’s fireworks sub-committee last night about the wind forecast. Two shots were fired between 9.10pm and 10pm to test conditions.

Llandudno Fireworks Display posted on Facebook: "Sadly the wind speed and direction tomorrow means we can not put on the display safely.
"Fireworks postponed until Sunday at 7pm."

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Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2018, 08:39:26 pm
Excellent display, weather spot on, pity it had to be postponed, I believe quite a few visitors had to leave, after booking hotels for last nights show.

I can't believe the traffic on Gloddaeth ave, solid from the prom, to Westshore, and has been like that for over an hour, just clearing now, even the back streets, busy with people trying shortcuts.
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Post by: SteveH on October 29, 2018, 09:53:19 am
The Pioneer story, confirming my impressions.

LLANDUDNO's fireworks display went off with a bang!
Thousands packed into the town to watch the spectacular display at the North Shore which had been postponed to Sunday (October 28) due to wind speed and safety reasons.

Crowds labelled the multicoloured and breathtaking display as "truly amazing" and "fantastic".
Families turned out in their droves and little ones showcased colourful lightsabers and sparklers.

Ryan Lloyd, who travelled from Glan Conwy to see the celebrations, said: "It was a well attended fireworks display. A lot better than previous years.
"I will definitely be back next year."

Another visitor, who asked not be named, said: "The town was bedlam.
"Unfortunately my family never got out the car as we couldn't park, but we drove through the prom and they looked impressive.
"A little close but - from what we saw - they looked really good."

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Post by: SteveH on October 31, 2018, 11:28:44 am
 
Excellent display, weather spot on, pity it had to be postponed, I believe quite a few visitors had to leave, after booking hotels for last nights show.

I can't believe the traffic on Gloddaeth ave, solid from the prom, to Westshore, and has been like that for over an hour, just clearing now, even the back streets, busy with people trying shortcuts.

The Pioneer quoting more than 17,000 turn out for fireworks spectacular in Llandudno.
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Post by: SteveH on November 06, 2018, 05:55:29 pm
Maybe we should leave it to the professionals.

THERE was plenty of sparkle on Bonfire Night but some fireworks ended up in the wrong place.
A small fire, caused accidentally, was sparked on Llandudno Great Orme. This was caused by a firework. The fire was out on arrival and firefighters inspected the scene.

At an address in Llandudno, at 7.47pm, there was one square metre of fire damage after a firework landed on a roof. Two crews from Llandudno attended.

A small hedge fire broke out at an address on Sylva Road. 150 square metres of hedge were affected. One crew attended. The cause is unknown. 
ref Pioneer

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? XMAS PARADE TODAY
Post by: SteveH on December 01, 2018, 09:52:23 am
Llandudno: Xmas Parade

On December 1 ( today) from 2.40pm there will be various seasonal entertainment outside the Town Hall on Lloyd Street. At 4pm the magical Christmas Parade will travel from the Station area along Vaughan Street into Mostyn Street, Lloyd Street, Madoc Street and return to the Station. The Parade will feature Father Christmas and lots of other festive attractions.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 03, 2018, 10:18:11 am
We saw a four car shunt on the Prom at the crossing by Dylans yesterday lunchtime. The car in front had obviously braked hard and the three cars behind him went straight in the back of each other. Were they too close or travelling too fast?
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Post by: Hugo on December 03, 2018, 11:44:32 am
I hope that there were no injuries in that pile up Dave but in times like that a dash cam can be invaluable
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Post by: Ian on December 03, 2018, 04:30:32 pm
That's why it concerns me when people refer to 'trivial offences'. They may well be trivial in the minds of some, but one major error and they cease being trivial.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 03, 2018, 08:06:01 pm
From what DaveR has described there were three major errors. If you run in to the back of someone there is only one person at fault.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on December 03, 2018, 08:28:27 pm
... as said by Dave - fault would be with the drivers who ran into the back of the car ahead.
... too fast, probably within the speed limit
... too close, probably
... not being fully attentive - yes
... dash cam would be of little use in the first car other that would notice a jolt, would be incriminating for any of the three cars - only possible case of dash cam being useful would be a rear-facing one in the first car, or perhaps the next two as well.

... I have been in Liverpool today and had many instances where traffic lights turned to amber as I approached but with plenty of time for me to stop without braking sharply, yet I saw many cars go through (it was two lanes) on amber and sometimes on red - my dash cam would probably show them up ... what would you do?  There were no accidents or near-misses.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 04, 2018, 08:51:59 am

. I have been in Liverpool today and had many instances where traffic lights turned to amber as I approached but with plenty of time for me to stop without braking sharply, yet I saw many cars go through (it was two lanes) on amber and sometimes on red - my dash cam would probably show them up ... what would you do?  There were no accidents or near-misses.

Sadly DVT that is a sign of the times and it happens everywhere, not just in big towns or cities.   As individuals there is little we can do to curb this type of driving and as there were no accidents or near misses then the drivers should consider themselves lucky.  In Colwyn Bay we have a daily problem of idiots coming down St Andrews Road and going straight over the give way sign before turning left to go down King's Drive.    They don't look right down Pen Y Bryn Road which has the right of way and near misses occur daily there.    I just wish that I had a dash cam when an uninsured driver did that and wrote off one of my cars
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 09, 2018, 02:50:59 pm
SANTA Claus certainly did come to Town yesterday, hundreds of them in fact, as runners turned up to take part in Llandudno's 5K Santa Dash.

People of all ages put on their best red suits and hats and long white beards to line-up at the starting point on the Promenade for 11am.

Runners came from all over to take part in the race. St. David's Hospice had around 48 people participate in order to raise money for a good cause.

Those involved walked, jogged and/or ran their way through the 5km route which took them along the beautiful sea front of Llandudno North Shore. Everyone who completed the race received a medal.    ref Pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 12, 2018, 11:34:38 am
LLANDUDNO will receive a dusting of snowmen collecting for local charities in the run up to Christmas.

The snowmen will actually be cunningly disguised members of the town’s Rotary Club, who will be collecting for St David’s and Ty Gobaith hospices. They will be trudging the streets between Wednesday December 19 and Saturday December 22.

Rotarian Chris Drew said: “We have a rota of 20 volunteers prepared to don snowmen outfits. Every year we are amazed at, and gratified by, the kindness of visitors and residents alike in supporting this worthwhile venture. Last Christmas we raised £1,500 and want to do better this year.”   ref Pioneer

   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on December 20, 2018, 08:45:18 am
I was amazed to read in the Daily Post that Mostyn Estates apparently believes that the taxpayer should foot the bill for replacing the pavements along Mostyn Street on the areas of the pavement that they own.

My question...are they hard up or just greedy?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavements-half-fixed-after-firms-15570058 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavements-half-fixed-after-firms-15570058)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on December 20, 2018, 02:49:20 pm
They are downright greedy, Dave  >:(
Does anyone know what's going on at the golf links between Deganwy & Llandudno they have diggers in and huge mounds of earth?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 20, 2018, 03:08:26 pm
I didn't notice them Meleri when I drove past a short while ago but they have something similar in the fields opposite Llandrillo yn Rhos College and I was wondering what was happening there.

As for Mostyn Estates, don't get me going on that bunch.    Mr Hiller has made a number of promises of money to the town and I'm still waiting to see anything come from the promises.
It wouldn't surprise me if Mostyn Estates tried again in the near future to get development on the Bodafon Fields.  I don't think that they have given up on that idea somehow.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on December 20, 2018, 04:04:49 pm
I believe they are laying a water mains, Maesdu Golf Club have been paid a large  sum for the inconvenience  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on December 20, 2018, 04:43:19 pm
Its a good excuse for CCBC to hold the project up.
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Post by: Cambrian on December 20, 2018, 05:07:25 pm
Meleri, the works at Maesdu are a scheme to control land drainage and surface water entering the public sewerage system.  It was subject to a planning application 0/44208 if anyone wants the full details.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on December 21, 2018, 01:21:35 pm
Thanks for putting me in the picture regarding the work going on Cambrian & Quiggs. Hugo from what I have heard it's only a matter of time with Bodafon Fields, nothing is safe from speculative development anymore, Greenbelt will be non-existent in the not so distant future  :'(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2018, 04:57:18 pm
Meleri,   I heard it from a reliable source a few years ago and I believe that it won't be too long before it rears its ugly head once again
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 27, 2018, 10:53:00 am
Hardy thrill seekers braved the freezing waves of the Irish Sea, for the annual Boxing day dips.

Despite the weather being unseasonably mild, the sea remained icy for the hundreds that dashed into the water for the traditional event.
Donning fancy dress - or just their swimwear - daredevils ran from the beach into the water and all for charitable causes.
In North Wales, there were several organised Boxing Day Dips taking place across the region - including one at Llandudno.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/festive-fundraisers-brave-cold-llandudno-15597196 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/festive-fundraisers-brave-cold-llandudno-15597196)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 26, 2019, 12:13:15 pm
Fire in Wildwoods!
Mostyn Street shut.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 26, 2019, 05:02:36 pm
Fire in Wildwoods!
Mostyn Street shut.

Hi Fester, DP article on the fire.......
"A fire at a restaurant closed a main shopping street for more than three hours.

Fire crews were called after 10am to the Wildwood restaurant on Mostyn Street, Llandudno, after a fault in a pizza oven sparked the blaze.
No one was injured but it is believed some staff were on site preparing for the store's opening at 11am.

Fire service crews remained in the restaurant and part of the street was cordoned off for more than three hours as they worked at the scene."
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-wildwood-pizza-joint-shuts-15736546 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-wildwood-pizza-joint-shuts-15736546)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on January 27, 2019, 01:25:38 pm
Fire in Wildwoods!
Mostyn Street shut.
Fire crews were called after 10am to the Wildwood restaurant on Mostyn Street, Llandudno, after a fault in a pizza oven sparked the blaze.

Now that wouldn't have happend if they had wood fired pizza ovens.  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 27, 2019, 08:26:53 pm
We had a look at the waves this afternoon, high tide and a strong northerly wind.
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Post by: snowcap on January 27, 2019, 10:53:55 pm
that last one is a cracker M.E.
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Post by: Hugo on January 27, 2019, 11:03:08 pm
Very effective ME,  it's a computer enhanced photo of your first photo but what a difference between the two photos
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 28, 2019, 08:00:39 am
Thanks both, they were taken on my Samsung smartphone and edited with Snapseed on the phone. Only hard part was standing steady in the wind and getting back in the car without the door blowing off !  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 07, 2019, 11:42:11 am
Work to transform a historic lifeboat station into a climbing centre is nearing completion.

Pioneer reporter Patrick Glover was given an inside look at the new Boathouse Climbing Centre which is being developed inside the old Llandudno Lifeboat Station, on Lloyd Road which has stood since 1903.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17409440.new-boathouse-climbing-centre-coming-to-old-llandudno-lifeboat-station/?ref=mr&lp=1 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17409440.new-boathouse-climbing-centre-coming-to-old-llandudno-lifeboat-station/?ref=mr&lp=1)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on February 07, 2019, 12:37:44 pm
It’s Lloyd Street, not Lloyd Road, but what can you expect from the Pioneer.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 12, 2019, 11:18:40 am
More than 700 runners lined the Llandudno promenade on Sunday for the 27th annual Nick Beer 10km race.

Despite the breezy conditions organisers said some "excellent times" were achieved as Eryi Harriers pair Gwyn Owen and Catherine Connell took out the male and female races respectively.

For the first time ever a 1k fun run was held before the main race along the promenade.
This attracted more than 40 participants with all proceeds going to St David’s Hospice.

St David’s Hospice Conwy Area Fundraiser, James Wilde, said: “The Nick Beer race has a fantastic history in Llandudno spanning more than a quarter of a century and we’re really happy to be involved in the first ever Nick Beer Fun Run."

The club said they were extremely grateful for all the volunteers who helped on the day and sponsors that also supported the event.       Results  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17425806.hundreds-turn-out-for-27th-annual-nick-beer-race-in-llandudno/?ref=mr&lp=8 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17425806.hundreds-turn-out-for-27th-annual-nick-beer-race-in-llandudno/?ref=mr&lp=8)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 21, 2019, 11:25:21 am
Interesting article, worth reading..............

Confidence in the future of the 'Queen of Welsh Resorts'
There is 'cautious optimism' in Llandudno despite the national uncertainty.

The national economic picture is currently one of political uncertainty, retail gloom and Brexit fears.

But business leaders in Llandudno - one of the region’s biggest tourism and shopping destinations - say their town is bucking the trend - with “cautious optimism” for the year ahead despite a few clouds.
Cont.........  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-hotels-town-tourism-attractions-15856212 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/llandudno-hotels-town-tourism-attractions-15856212)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 12, 2019, 04:50:14 pm
A NUMBER of wild goats have invaded Llandudno to escape the weather.   

The animals come from the more than 60 strong flock of Kashmiri goats which live on the Great Orme. However it is not uncommon for them to come into the town during bad weather.

One eye witness who saw the goats in Llandudno said : “They appear to have a liking for daffodils, which would be appropriate and good taste for Welsh goats.”     ;)
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17495080.daffodils-under-threat-from-goats-in-llandudno/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17495080.daffodils-under-threat-from-goats-in-llandudno/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 16, 2019, 12:47:59 am
A NUMBER of wild goats have invaded Llandudno to escape the weather.   

The animals come from the more than 60 strong flock of Kashmiri goats which live on the Great Orme. However it is not uncommon for them to come into the town during bad weather.

One eye witness who saw the goats in Llandudno said : “They appear to have a liking for daffodils, which would be appropriate and good taste for Welsh goats.”     ;)
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17495080.daffodils-under-threat-from-goats-in-llandudno/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17495080.daffodils-under-threat-from-goats-in-llandudno/)
One thing the Goats will not eat under any circumstances is Daffodils, and to prove my point take a walk through Happy Valley where you will see thousands of them flowering untouched but  every thing else is fair game to them. This year I have chicken-wired off my front garden flowerbed and so far it seems to be working. The goats don't come down into town because of bad weather, it's because they are hungry and those responsible for them claim they are feral and so they don't require feeding. It's a disgraceful attitude and any other keeper of animals would have been prosecuted for animal cruelty. Once the limited fodder on the Orme has been consumed  they have no option but to come into town and help themselves to what ever is available.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 16, 2019, 09:10:39 am
Exactly Blongbob, the daffodils are great, which had the goats liked them they certainly wouldn't be. Another thing they appear not to like is Rosemary. Our hedges remain intact, but they chose the Senicio  ( sorry about the spelling) and pull it out from the gaps in the Rosemary.
Despite comments on FB to the contrary, it can be devastating to see the things that you have carefully nurtured eaten down to sticks. I spoke to a lady in Church Walks the other day who had had her pots completely eaten overnight. A costly occupation to replace.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 16, 2019, 10:54:24 am
I got a visit on Thursday evening, they were definitely hungry, even fighting over some of my shrubs, I moved them on, but I am always wary, those are intimidating horns.  ???

Very surprised to see large areas of The Oval flooded this morning, worst I have seen, since being here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 16, 2019, 11:36:06 am
This link won't comfort you Steve and I take it that you weren't there in 1993.     If those drains in the western part of the town are not cleared of sand on a regular basis then there could be bigger problems in the future.
Just because the drains are out of sight CCBC should still be aware of any problems pending



https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17491126.llandudno-declared-fifth-worst-uk-town-for-flooding/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17491126.llandudno-declared-fifth-worst-uk-town-for-flooding/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 16, 2019, 12:43:31 pm
I fortunately missed the 93 events, and have to say I do see the gullies being cleaned quite often, so fingers crossed.

PS just heard llanrwst in big trouble, the small stream in town is full to bursting, this caused havoc a few years, the river is highest level since 2015
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2019, 02:02:28 pm
I do see the gullies being cleaned quite often, so fingers crossed.
I wish I could say the same! All over town, I see blocked road drains, sadly.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 20, 2019, 12:46:29 pm
I noticed the goats all over Gloddaeth Ave. last night, they even bedded down on the central reservation about 11pm, later I saw them running towards West shore, never seen them move so fast, then I saw the large dog off the lead, who was encouraging them along, the owner a little distance away............ 

GOATS intruding into Llandudno have proved to be a problem for Ysgol San Sior.

There has been a recent influx of goats from the herd living on the Great Orme into the town because of bad weather.
Goat incursions have also been a continuing problem for Ysgol San Sior which lies at the foot of the Great Orme.

Ian Jones, headmaster, said: “The goats have wrecked havoc. They’ve destroyed 150 saplings we planted last Autumn, and the worry is that if they continue to gain access to the school field they will repeat the damage they did last year.

"Then they eat all the blossom on our apple trees which meant we had no apples to make our chutney

“Another problem is that goat poo gets walked into the school.”
He added: “It is important to say we like the goats. But the problem is overpopulation, that’s the issue.
"Goats are great for our town, they encourage biodiversity on the Orme.”
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17514036.llandudno-school-suffers-great-orme-goat-intrusion/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17514036.llandudno-school-suffers-great-orme-goat-intrusion/)

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 04, 2019, 04:56:09 pm
I think it was last year when I first saw the goats wandering about the area where I live, it was nice to see them close up, but then their visits increased, now this year they are spending most evenings around the Gloddaeth/Oval area, with the resulting damage and mess,  in my opinion something needs done, someone needs to accept responsibility for these animals, before it gets out of hand, this herd will only get bigger, and the youngsters will accept the easier pickings in town, as the norm, they need to be returned and cared for on the Orme, ie supplementary feeding as an incentive.
 
The article below, is treating the situation lightheartedly,...............  "cheeky visitors" ...... " helped themselves to shrubbery" ......."even visited a local primary school" ........  " mischief about town, holding up traffic, playing in the streets and raiding gardens for snacks."......... "no qualms about holding up traffic as they enjoy a stroll around town"............  "embraced their celebrity status and seem happy to be photographed" ....................  "But on the whole., they seem to be having a wonderful time in Llandudno" 


Llandudno's Great Orme goats have been on another cheeky adventure - here's what they got up to

They've stopped traffic, got involved in fights and have even been spotted on the school run this time around!

It's been a few weeks  :o  since the herd of Great Orme goats last invaded Llandudno.

But it seems our little friends have returned and have been spotted wandering the streets of the town.

The Great Orme goats - a breed known as Kashmiri goats - normally live up in the hills of the headland.

But following their well publicised excursion down to the tourist hot spot back in March, it seems the furry rogues had that much fun they've come back for another adventure.

This time around the cheeky visitors were seen exploring the local area.

They also helped themselves to shrubbery and even visited a local primary school.

The article with video and lots of photos ......... https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-great-orme-goats-been-16077023 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-great-orme-goats-been-16077023)
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 04, 2019, 06:28:01 pm
As much as I like the goats, I live in fear of them causing some kind of awful accident, cars and bikes seem to use Gloddaeth Avenue, Abbey Road and the surrounding areas as a race track and the goats in the streets aren't easily visible due to the recent change in the type of street lights. The volume of droppings has been vast recently and are very slippery after rain so the surfaces are nasty to say the least. Thus if you are driving at night, drive carefully and keep your eyes peeled ! *cycle*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on April 04, 2019, 06:54:07 pm
Well I for one don't think it's amusing or funny, they are causing damage to property, conwy council would be the first to bring the land owner to task for compensation .but low and behold I think they have a lease from Mostyn estates for the Gt Orme .does that make them liable?  When Mostyn estates ran the Orme some culling took place along with fox control. Politically I can't see this happening, perhaps they could relocate some what ever the solution they are starving at present
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 04, 2019, 07:03:57 pm
A few weeks ago I made the mistake of driving down Abbey Road when the school had just finished and found myself facing a convoy of mainly women drivers picking up their children from school and driving Chelsea tractors.   
I had to pull in many times to let them go past and there was no hint of a thank you from any of them, that was until I let a gentleman go past in an immaculate white Morris Minor and he thanked me for my gesture which I appreciated.      $good$
It's a shame that the other drivers weren't as considerate, so I'll keep away from there at that time of the day
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 04, 2019, 07:40:43 pm
Old fashioned car-----old fashioned manners. ! Meet Archie-------if this was him .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 05, 2019, 11:37:07 am
AN immaculate motor with a considerate driver seems to be getting rarer on the roads nowadays, mores the pity.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TheMedz on April 24, 2019, 09:27:48 pm
What time does the next
26 go down into town?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2019, 09:46:48 am
Never mind 'down into town'. Perhaps back up where we belong ! I've no rose bushes left ! *cycle*
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on April 25, 2019, 01:32:38 pm
An English firm has been offering tourists the chance to shoot goats in the Welsh mountains for up to £1,000 a kill.

Owen Beardsmore, who owns a “global hunting and shooting agency”, specialises in tailor-made hunting trips.


He is offering people the chance to shoot for rates of between £400 and £1,000 per Billy goat.

The tours have been described as a “blood sport” by animal rights groups and politicians who accused those going on the hunts as having a “sickening lust for blood”.

When contacted by the Daily Post Mr Beardsmore - who runs hunt agency Cervus-UK - said he was not doing anything illegal,

 It's an option bring in some revenue for a cash strapped council   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 25, 2019, 02:58:43 pm
What about a offering people the chance to shoot for rates of between £400 and £1,000 with Owen Beardsmore being the target.
I'm sure that there would be no shortage of people wanting to participate in it
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on April 25, 2019, 03:28:40 pm
Hi Hugo I tried to put a smiling face on after my tongue in cheek comment but failed ,on a serious note something must be done ,it does not help now we have more sheep than ever on the Orme plus Herdwick which eat the same unpalatable vegetation that the goats survive on
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on April 26, 2019, 10:39:24 am
Can you just go and shoot something on either someone else's or public land without permission?
And if permission is granted, who is prepared to let it happen?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 26, 2019, 11:14:49 am
That's quite a thorny question, Dave. The law states:

Section 19 of the Firearms Act 1968 makes it an offence for someone to have with them a loaded shotgun, a loaded air weapon, or any other firearm (whether loaded or not) together with ammunition suitable for use in that firearm in a public place without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on the person). The Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003 also extends the Firearms Act to include unloaded air weapons and imitation firearms.

BASC says:

The British Association for Shooting and Conservation has raised concerns with DEFRA, on behalf of its members, that allowing sections 19 and 47 of the Firearms Act to apply to all land mapped as ‘open access land’ might lead members of the public to misunderstand the scope of the provisions and contact the police. A possibility also exists that some members of the public opposed to shooting activities might make malicious complaints under section 19.
Section 47 of the Firearms Act makes provision for a constable to examine firearms and ammunition if he has cause to suspect a person of having a firearm, with or without ammunition, with him in a public place; or to be committing or about to commit, elsewhere than in a public place, an offence relevant to the purposes of the rest of Section 47.


From what I can make out, then, anyone with the proper certification can shoot on public land providing they take care not to kill or injure too many of the public (!). The existence of a Right of Way stresses specific prohibitions:

In England & Wales it is an offence without lawful authority or reasonable excuse to discharge any firearm within fifty feet of the centre of a highway which consists of or comprises a carriageway, and in consequence a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. [Section 161(2) of the Highways Act 1980 as amended]. It is important to remember that the discharge of a firearm is not prohibited in itself. It must also be proved that there was an injury, or that someone’s passage was interrupted or interfered with e.g. they have been forced to make a detour.


As with a lot of UK law, it's as clear as mud and this doesn't help:

Whilst the Firearms Act does not provide a statutory definition of what is meant by “lawful authority” or “reasonable excuse”. We believe that “lawful authority” would not necessarily apply to sportsmen as this seems to relate to those issued with firearms in connection with official duties such as police or military personnel. “Reasonable excuse” would apply to sportsmen shooting over land with permission. Section 19 of the Firearms Act with regard to having a ‘firearm in a public place’ also applies and is described on page 4. This legislation applies to all public places and not just open access land.


In terms of shooting on someone else's land without permission, that's not illegal, in fact, since civil trespass is not illegal under UK law.  That's why it's not illegal to enter anyone's private garden.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on April 26, 2019, 01:17:05 pm
In terms of shooting on someone else's land without permission, that's not illegal, in fact, since civil trespass is not illegal under UK law.  That's why it's not illegal to enter anyone's private garden.


IAN IT IS ILLEGAL to enter any public or private land without permission carrying a shotgun or any firearm the offence is  ARMED TRESPASS  and carries serious penalties


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 26, 2019, 02:34:45 pm
That's not quite accurate:

"ARMED TRESPASS
 It is an offence to enter any building, part of a building or land (including land covered by water) with a firearm without reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on the person). [Section 20 Firearms Act 1968] "

That's what I was saying about the law and its lack of clarity. A lot of this comes down to the fact we don't have a constitution; British Law is largely based on precedent, as when the lawmakers frame an act they don't specify the details, leaving that to the courts.  So to use the example above, someone could possibly enter private land with a loaded shotgun if they could prove there was a reason they needed to do that. And there could be a lot of reasons.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 13, 2019, 05:15:37 pm
I heard earlier, that there was a cruise ship in the Bay, ferrying passengers ashore, apparently a rather expensive cruise, mention of a £1,000 for the week ?  still here according to Ship Finder.

The Pioneer reports...........  THE small cruise liner MS Hebridean Sky has anchored off Llandudno.

The 4,200 tons displacement craft is cruising between Plymouth and Fairlie in Scotland, and was scheduled to leave Llandudno on the evening of Monday May 13 for Peel on the Isle of Man. Her previous port of call was Fishguard.

She is owned by Noble Caledonia which conducts cruises around the British Isles and as far afield as the Arctic and Antarctic, Africa, the Mediterranean, Japan, Norway, Alaska, the Black Sea and many other places. As a small ship she is able to visit remote destinations well off the beaten tourist track.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 13, 2019, 06:33:09 pm
SteveH, her next cruise from Scotland for 13 nights (or 12 days) is from £7,395 per person.

I make that roughly £1,000 per night, per couple.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Michael on May 14, 2019, 02:47:41 pm
  How about this? This morning. The road up the Orme by the side closed for a second day. Because a landslip which happened around 18 months ago being fixed. So no bus service up. And of course no cars.
  So the bus had to climb up by the road next to the tram station. Because arrival didn’t have a suitably small bus, another bus operator called in. There were difficulties, but passengers could get more or less to where they wanted.
  But today unfortunately a lady was injured close to the tram station. So this the alternative route was also closed.
  So now how does the bus get up. Only way via the zigzags by the cemetery. O k with a bit of luck passengers could just about get up and maybe down.
  Only one big snag. The council, our council, the one who arranged this landslip work. They wanted £10 a time to let the bus through the toll road.
  Any comments.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 14, 2019, 06:03:53 pm
SteveH, her next cruise from Scotland for 13 nights (or 12 days) is from £7,395 per person.

I make that roughly £1,000 per night, per couple.

But they do promise ........"The ship features 59 exceptionally spacious suites, with each of the eight kinds of suites features a sitting area and 14 of them a private balcony."

"A Hebridean Sky representative said: “We promise there will be no organised entertainment, fancy dress, deck games or any of the usual big ship experiences.     ;)

“Instead, the atmosphere is warm and convivial and more akin to a private yacht or country hotel in which you can learn more about the wonders of nature, culture and ancient civilisations in the company of like-minded people.”

The DP'S piece ....  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/multi-million-pound-ship-anchored-16267863 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/multi-million-pound-ship-anchored-16267863)

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2019, 12:58:17 pm
THE small cruise liner, Sea Spirit, anchored off Llandudno during a cruise from Plymouth to Portrush in Northern Ireland.

The vessel spent a day over the Bank Holiday at Llandudno, while some of her passengers went ashore.

Displacing 4,200 tons, Sea Spirit sails on specialist cruises to ports and destinations larger ships cannot reach, including in the Arctic and Antarctica.

Her sister ship, Hebridean Sky, made a similar visit to Llandudno earlier this month.    SEE ABOVE                             refPòneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2019, 04:19:42 pm
 Mostyn St. closed this afternoon, due to fire at KFC.............  A North Wales Fire and Rescue Service spokeswoman said: "We were called to a fire, at 1.05pm. The fire was confined to a deep fat fryer. Crews used two sets of breathing apparatus, dry powder, CO2 and a hose reel jet.
"The fire was caused by a build-up of fat in the deep fat fryer. The damage was confined to the fryer and there was some smoke damage to the kitchen."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 29, 2019, 02:04:50 pm
LLANDUDNO’s new mayor has been named as cllr Angela O’Grady, who has a long standing record of service to the community.

Cllr O’Grady said: “I have volunteered in the community for more than 25 years, from being a volunteer at a drug rehabilitation unit in Colwyn Bay and as a mentor. I was also a volunteer at my children’s school Craig y Don and also at Tudno school.

“In 1993, I became a founder member of the Credit Union and I am also a founder member of Ty Hapus and Ty Llywelyn community centres.

“I currently volunteer at Ty Llywelyn Youth Club, the RVS and Llandudno Football Club and of course I am a voluntary Town Councillor, having been elected onto the Town Council in 2008.
She added: “I am a qualified youth worker and play worker. I gained a degree in public and social policy plus a level three qualification in health and social care. I work as a full time carer and home support worker, which I really enjoy.”

Cllr David Hawkins the outgoing mayor said: “It has been a fantastic year for Llandudno this year with so many events and occasions in the town. From the world rally championships to the magnificent display on the Armed Forces Day.

Llandudno has had record number of visitors and holiday makers as it continues to be one of the best places to stay at in Britain.

“There have been so many highlights this past year from running into the sea dressed as Victorian bathers on the Boxing Day dip to spending the day with children from Chernobyl having fun on the Great Orme.”    ref Pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? 75th anniversary of D-Day
Post by: SteveH on June 02, 2019, 03:39:35 pm
This is how the 75th anniversary of D-Day will be marked on beaches in North Wales next week
Events are planned in the region to remember the landings in 1944.

North Wales will host two major events next week to mark 75 years since the D-Day landings in Normandy.  Rhyl/ Llandudno

"Another beach commemoration event will take place in Llandudno on Saturday, June 8, as veterans join the public in a memorial to the fallen.
The names of the five Llandudno men who died during the Battle of Normandy in the summer of 1944 will be read out.
Throughout the day, there will also be several displays and stands along the promenade."

D Day Remembered - Llandudno war memorial, June 8 from 10am
For the rest of the day, there will be displays and stands (situated around the war memorial). These will include; 3rd battalion Royal Welsh, Royal Welch Fusiliers Museum, Home Front Museum, Conwy Archives Service, Royal British Legion Riders Branch, North Wales Radio Society, Blind Veterans UK, Woody’s Lodge and WW2 re-enactors.     https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/how-75th-anniversary-d-day-16361377 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/how-75th-anniversary-d-day-16361377)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 12, 2019, 12:13:58 pm
Out shopping yesterday, I noticed two things, considering it is early July, and the schools have not broken up for the summer, a lot of the shops had back to school outfits and books etc. perhaps to cheer the mum's up, and on the way into town I had to give way to the type of vehicle below, a bit of a surprise, but apparently training new drivers.  and the second photo I could not resist,
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 16, 2019, 04:43:07 pm
LLANDUDNO residents can see plans for protecting the North and West Shores from flooding.

Llandudno Coastal Forum, working with Conwy County Borough Council and consultants, has organised a public drop in session at the Victoria Centre in Llandudno on Friday July 26 and Saturday July 27, between 10am and 4pm, for residents and visitors to view shortlisted options for managing Llandudno’s beaches.

Conwy council officers, consultants and members of the Llandudno Coastal Forum will be available to answer questions about the options for protecting the coastal defences. Residents can also find out where the funding will come from, and what happens next.

Cllr Greg Robbins, Conwy’s cabinet member for the environment and a founder member of the Coastal Forum, said: “We know that with the projected rise in sea levels over the next 50 years, we need to be prepared. The shortlisted options are the result of the council working closely with the Coastal Forum over the last five years.”

Llandudno Coastal Forum was established in 2014 by residents and businesses to provide an alternative voice for the future development of the North and West Shore beaches.

The Forum is working with Conwy council to provide beaches that are fit for purpose, provide appropriate flood and coastal erosion management, improve the natural environment and amenity, acknowledge the cultural heritage, and can create commercial opportunities for the town.

Nigel Treacy, chairman of the Coastal Forum said: “The forum has worked tirelessly alongside Conwy council and environmental consultants in developing coastal defence and amenity solutions. This is a great opportunity for those who work, live and visit Llandudno to come and see the options that will shape the plans for Llandudno’s shorelines.”  ref Pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 20, 2019, 10:54:44 am
The reason for the Air Ambulance landing in town yesterday...........

Air ambulance called after man falls down stairs at Llandudno Wetherspoon pub
The man was unconscious for around 10 minutes after falling and suffering head injuries.
The Welsh Ambulance Service dispatched two ambulances, as well as the Wales Air Ambulance , which landed in the center of town.
The man was taken to Ysbyty Glan Clwyd in Bodelwyddan following the incident.    ref DP
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 23, 2019, 09:42:44 am
Some chat about the Llandudno based, London tour bus, stopping operations, and being put up for sale on Ebay , rumor says trouble with the council, imposing a timetable ? it was well liked on Tripadvisor, be a shame if it goes.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on July 23, 2019, 12:02:05 pm
https://routemaster.forsale/ (https://routemaster.forsale/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 23, 2019, 01:02:14 pm
Thank's for that , shame that it's true, with a lot of luck it might stay locally.   &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on July 23, 2019, 08:01:29 pm
£48,000 is a lot of money to ask even if it is a good runner, still I wish him luck selling it. I'm not surprised he's moving on. Once he was prevented from going through the top Arch in Conwy he was on a hiding to nowhere. Using Rhos as an alternative was never going to work, not with the No. 12 bus at every 12 minutes for a lot less money.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on July 23, 2019, 10:05:25 pm
Another one bullied by this council.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on July 24, 2019, 11:12:24 am
The value of Routemaster buses went ridiculously high but they are now on the way down again. Sadly many are sold abroad for conversion into bars and the like.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 25, 2019, 10:34:21 am
I am assuming the Pioneer have mistaken the date, and it is this Sunday........

LLANDUDNO’s Civic Sunday will start with the traditional parade from the town hall to the War Memorial.

The parade will first assemble outside the town hall at 10am on Sunday   XXXJuly 26,XXX  with the Mayor, cllr Angela O’Grady, members of the town council and guests.

At the War Memorial, the Last Post will be sounded, followed by a pause of respect then Reveille. The Mayor will lay a wreath.

The parade will then march to Our Lady Star of the Sea Catholic Church for the Civic Service.
Following the service the parade will continue back to the town hall for the salute.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 29, 2019, 11:00:06 am
LLAWN festival returns for sixth year to Llandudno with new curator Megan Broadmeadow.

BICYCLE ballet, the antidote to social media and an ancient Indian artform are just a few of the incredible instillations earmarked for this year’s LLAWN festival.

The fantastic, award-winning Llandudno Arts Weekend festival returns to the town for its sixth year for another smorgasbord of free art installations from Friday, September 13 to Sunday 15.
More..... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17800976.llawn-festival-returns-sixth-year-llandudno-new-curator-megan-broadmeadow/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17800976.llawn-festival-returns-sixth-year-llandudno-new-curator-megan-broadmeadow/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: TELL on July 29, 2019, 07:15:31 pm
I have been working abroad for the last year and so it was great to be back to stay in Llandudno. I took my first walk along the prom on Saturday, it was great to see the crowds full of lots of happy faces. Sad to see that the council still have the same mindset. No beach attendants on duty, and all the deckchairs hidden away. Never mind, the town is looking good!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 30, 2019, 05:02:55 pm
Sad to see that the council still have the same mindset. No beach attendants on duty, and all the deckchairs hidden away. Never mind, the town is looking good!

Before reading your comment and by coincidence I was walking past the said deck chairs today and the same thought crossed my mind that this is possibly the worst example of a council run tourist enterprise. I doubt rentals hit double figures for a single day right through the season.
If anyone can think of a better example let's hear it!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 31, 2019, 12:05:17 pm
LLANDUDNO residents can see plans for protecting the North and West Shores from flooding.

Llandudno Coastal Forum, working with Conwy County Borough Council and consultants, has organised a public drop in session at the Victoria Centre in Llandudno on Friday July 26 and Saturday July 27, between 10am and 4pm, for residents and visitors to view shortlisted options for managing Llandudno’s beaches.

Conwy council officers, consultants and members of the Llandudno Coastal Forum will be available to answer questions about the options for protecting the coastal defences. Residents can also find out where the funding will come from, and what happens next.

Unfortunately I was unable to go to the drop in session so I don't know anything about the project.     Has anyone heard any feedback about the proposals, in particular about the quarry waste presently on the North Shore and whether anything will ever be done about the sand problems that are blighting the West Shore?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 31, 2019, 12:57:04 pm
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This link from Cordyline............

Up to £20m could be spent improving flood defences on two beaches at a north Wales seaside resort.
Proposals for Llandudno could also see new sand beaches return to the town's North Shore.

Climate change models suggest the sea around the Great Orme headland could rise by 700mm (2.5ft) over a century.
Engineers at Conwy council said much of the town would then be at risk of severe flooding - unless action is taken.
"Basically, Llandudno is a bowl and the sea defences are its rim - if they fail, the town is flooded," said Conwy's flood risk manager, Owen Conry.   "We need to mitigate that flood risk."

More.........  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49131695 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49131695)

                         
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 31, 2019, 01:03:39 pm
In '92 the Llandudno Heritage Trust, among others, commissioned a report into this. The report found the same issues as currently: the beach needs raising with several hundred of thousands of tons of sand. Of course, because of the cost, not a lot was done. 

The cost will be at least £20m - possibly more - but needs to be funded by central government.  If the PM was telling the truth, we'll have wads of cash after Brexit, and the PM wouldn't lie, would he?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2019, 08:16:21 am
I must admit that I don't understand the complexities of coastal defence, it's beyond my comprehension so I'd rather leave it all to those expert consultants and CCBC.
I'm still puzzled though why they put sand on the West Shore which has a howling westerly wind for most of the time and yet they put rocks on the North Shore that isn't affected by the wind.
They reckon the cost of the sea defence will be at least £20m  but in another report I read that the cost of one wooden groyne alone would be £1m     Does this mean that they won't be able to build wooden groynes that we know do work, and  put in cheaper rock groynes that we know don't work?   

Of course they have to plan for the future  and Climate change models suggest the sea around the Great Orme headland could rise by 700mm (2.5ft) over a century so why are they only suggesting to raise the West Shore sea wall by 16 inches?
It's too much for me to take in and I'm just hoping that at long, long last CCBC will get something right

As for a raised walkway on the West Shore,  I think that April 1st would be an appropriate date to start on that project   

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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on August 01, 2019, 08:46:31 am
They have got it all worked out, same as last time.
The west shore wall only needs to be 16" the sandhills will do the rest.  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 12, 2019, 10:23:34 pm
Tonight's BBC News main story about county lines drug dealers didn't show LLandudno in a good light that's for sure.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 12, 2019, 10:33:54 pm
That on the news today was tame compared to what they should have shown , as soon as the police get rid of one lot the housing put another lot in, the druggies look more dead than alive.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 13, 2019, 12:23:50 am
There is no drug problem in Llandudno.
I never have a problem getting drugs in Llandudno...  *punch* $lol$ $lol$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 20, 2019, 05:51:29 pm
A lot of hype in the media over the Corrie filming, but I think this photo is one for the "Times past" thread of the future.

More photos    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/gallery/coronation-street-cast-spotted-llandudno-16785741 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/gallery/coronation-street-cast-spotted-llandudno-16785741)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2019, 09:55:27 am
I was amazed to read in the Daily Post that Mostyn Estates apparently believes that the taxpayer should foot the bill for replacing the pavements along Mostyn Street on the areas of the pavement that they own.
My question...are they hard up or just greedy?

It would appear that work will start early September on pavement repairs in parts of Mostyn St, as discussed last year, but only on council property.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavements-half-fixed-after-firms-15570058 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavements-half-fixed-after-firms-15570058)

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17309017.conwy-council-to-spend-187000-repairing-mostyn-street-pavement/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17309017.conwy-council-to-spend-187000-repairing-mostyn-street-pavement/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 28, 2019, 03:33:34 pm
I was amazed to read in the Daily Post that Mostyn Estates apparently believes that the taxpayer should foot the bill for replacing the pavements along Mostyn Street on the areas of the pavement that they own.
My question...are they hard up or just greedy?

It would appear that work will start early September on pavement repairs in parts of Mostyn St, as discussed last year, but only on council property.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavements-half-fixed-after-firms-15570058 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavements-half-fixed-after-firms-15570058)

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17309017.conwy-council-to-spend-187000-repairing-mostyn-street-pavement/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17309017.conwy-council-to-spend-187000-repairing-mostyn-street-pavement/)


If measures were put in place to prevent any and all vehicles from parking on the Pavements, the repair bill would be significantly reduced. I also hope the Council will take the opportunity to actually level the footpath. Try pushing a wheelchair down Mostyn Street and you will soon see how badly they slope, when you consider how flat the main part of Llandudno is supposed to be.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 29, 2019, 12:58:59 pm
LLANDUDNO promenade will be turned into a bikers’ paradise when the British Motorcycle Preservation Society holds its Magnificent Motorcycles display of classic bikes.               

The display will be held on Sunday, September 1 between 10am and 3pm, when it is hoped a large number of bikes from yesteryear will be exhibited.

The display is being organised in conjunction with a number of motorcycle clubs including the Whistle Stop Café, Goldwing and Wirral Wobblers.

In addition talks will be given by Blind Veterans UK’s Billy Baxter, the Fastest Blind Man on a Bike (the current Guinness World Record holder) and Blood Bike Wales.                                                                                          ref Pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 07, 2019, 10:22:52 am
Britain’s finest Honda Goldwings, the world’s top touring motorbikes, were on display again in Llandudno.

The Goldwing Light Parade is one of the UK’s most exciting charity events which took place the along the Llandudno sea front and promenade in front of thousands of visitors to the town.

The annual event has successfully raised thousands of pounds for the Llandudno RNLI, Blood Bikes and the Lions Charities. Volunteers from the Llandudno Lifeboat were delighted to be able to support the parade this year, with the inshore lifeboat going on exercise to please the visitors who had arrived to see the two hundred and thirty-nine Honda Goldwings on Display.

Dave Crowley, Secretary of the Light Parade committee commented on how important the event is to help maintain the RNLI's valuable work in Llandudno, he also explained that after this year’s eighth parade a figure of over £30,000 would have been raised for local charities.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 25, 2019, 03:03:54 pm
I was amazed to read in the Daily Post that Mostyn Estates apparently believes that the taxpayer should foot the bill for replacing the pavements along Mostyn Street on the areas of the pavement that they own.
My question...are they hard up or just greedy?
It would appear that work will start early September on pavement repairs in parts of Mostyn St, as discussed last year, but only on council property.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavements-half-fixed-after-firms-15570058 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavements-half-fixed-after-firms-15570058)

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17309017.conwy-council-to-spend-187000-repairing-mostyn-street-pavement/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17309017.conwy-council-to-spend-187000-repairing-mostyn-street-pavement/)

The new pavements and kerb stones, are looking extremely smart, with granite?  flags, a great asset to the town, pity it is only half a job.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 26, 2019, 10:52:54 am
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PS from above............    I noticed the H. Samuel shop, being gutted this morning, everything being loaded onto vans, (which incidentally were parked on the new pavement, so hopefully no oil stains )  now rumors around that the staff were unaware of this situation, and were working as normal yesterday.         

Why did the council not take steps to stop pavement parking as part of the refurbishment such as putting bollards along the edges?

I dread to think of the expense involved, and where do you stop, from my own observations, I don't think the general public pavement park on Mostyn St. also I suspect the traffic warden would have to take action ?  .......... now parallel parking is a different matter, I have seen some shocking attempts, I think the local body repairers would do a thriving trade.

PS   In slight mitigation of the parked removal vans, the pavement works team, had blocked the road with their equipment.

PPS  Standing outside Costa coffee yesterday, I noticed that the new pavements only make the old look worse than before, it struck me that a good pressure washing would make an improvement and would not be to costly.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2019, 12:32:13 pm
A bit of an asset for the the hotels etc, (if advertised enough).............    I wonder who's paying ?  just noticed it coincides with the well discussed Xmas Fayre, which is 14th 17th Nov.

New Llandudno Winter Light event to bring to life stories that have 'lurked in the darkness'.

THERE is something exciting planned set to awaken the dark winter nights this November.
Llandudno will come alive with a procession of mythical monsters, Vikings and an unlikely troupe from a Victorian circus on November 16.
Starting at 7pm, the new event for Llandudno - entitled Chapter I - aims to bring the ‘light’ in to Llandudno.
The forgotten story of the Great Orme will be brought to life.

There will be music, special effects and a performance including community engagement and a ‘teaser’ of what is to come for Chapter II - on December 14 at 7pm.

Rachael Gill, Corporate Events, Communications and Marketing Manager of Conwy County Borough Council, said: “This is a new event for the town. It is all about bringing the history of Llandudno to life - with the Vikings and the Orme.

“The first element is all about myths and monsters and bringing the light into Llandudno. There will be participants from local community groups and torch bearers.

“It all all about people with the procession. Thee will also be street entertainment and a teaser of chapter II when a building will be lit up.”
Chapter II unfolds with ‘The Mermaid’s Purse’.

There will be music, special effects and as well as community engagement

This will feature a Technicolour tale of the Conwy Mermaid in spectacular digital projection and illumination. A narrative will be told through a series of projections by Illuminos on the strip of nine buildings running from the King’s Arms to the edge of Mostyn Street, opposite North Western Gardens.

Buildings will be transformed into windows on time as, from one moment the mermaid slips through the waves of the sea as Vikings give chase, before her shadow is spotted amidst a Victorian funfair where the reward for her capture - a mermaid’s purse - inspires the ringmaster to follow in hot pursuit.

Mrs Gill added: “It is perfect for the whole family.

“It is about creating mystic, intrigue, things not known about Llandudno, the Vikings, Victoria age and long back. Conwy Council is open 12 months of the year. It is about pushing footfall, this is part of that.”                                        ref Pioneer


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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2019, 09:44:57 am
A bit more on the above...........

Mythical monsters, Vikings and a Victorian circus troupe set to draw thousands to Llandudno
Two events are being held in the town, the second of which will see key buildings lit up through an eye-catching series of projection.

A new £200,000 winter event is coming to Llandudno in a bid to attract more visitors so the county can reach its ambitious £1bn tourism economy target.

Conwy Council's events team, who were behind last weekend's Wales Rally GB, have engaged Salford-based Walk the Plank-outdoor entertainment specialists, who have arranged high profile events across the UK, to organise the parade and a second event that will see buildings being lit up by illuminos.    cont    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/mythical-monsters-vikings-victorian-circus-17011131 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/mythical-monsters-vikings-victorian-circus-17011131)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 09, 2019, 12:07:07 pm
Half price fares on Great Orme Tramway for Conwy county people.

LLANDUDNO's Great Orme Tramway will host its first community weekend event to thank local residents for their support of this much loved Llandudno attraction.

Residents of Conwy county will be able to claim half price entry to the attraction on Saturday October 19 and Sunday October 20.

Anyone who can prove they live in Conwy county will be entitled to take up the deal. The offer can be used for up to six people per address. Tramway officials say they hope to reconnect with people who have not visited the attraction for some years and to remind them that they are there.    cont   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17956759.half-price-fares-great-orme-tramway-conwy-people/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17956759.half-price-fares-great-orme-tramway-conwy-people/)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 23, 2019, 02:22:58 pm
Having a nice cuppa in the garden, and have just been buzzed by a low flying Chinook, came over Westshore and turned around, over the town,  for a second pass before disappearing up the valley, very impressive.    no time to get camera so stock photo
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2019, 04:03:26 pm
The last time one few low over my house the whole house shook.    It's one mighty machine with a distinctive noise, completely  different to an ordinary helicopter
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 29, 2019, 02:16:38 pm
LLANDUDNO has won the large coastal category of the Royal Horticultural Society’s (RHS) Britain in Bloom competition.

The town saw off competition from Bexhill-on-Sea and Newquay and earned a gold medal for the exceptional standard of its entry.

Llandudno’s show piece was the Great Orme limestone headland, an important conservation area, while other projects included the planting of disease-resistant elm trees and a community vineyard in Haulfre Gardens, harvested this year to produce its first wine.
cont...    https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18000287.llandudno-wins-britain-bloom-coastal-award/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18000287.llandudno-wins-britain-bloom-coastal-award/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 30, 2019, 12:17:05 pm
Join us for a superb professional fireworks display set off in Llandudno Bay at 6.10pm. There will be entertainment on the stage on the promenade prior to the fireworks. If the weather is adverse, the display will be rescheduled for Thursday 31 October at 7pm.
Note: Finish times are approximate and may vary, contact the organiser for further information.
Admission is free, but donations are encouraged.    http://www.visitllandudno.org.uk/events/llandudno-fireworks-display-p423251 (http://www.visitllandudno.org.uk/events/llandudno-fireworks-display-p423251)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 30, 2019, 07:53:35 pm
Thousands in Llandudno tonight.        ref DP

"This is what caused all the queues
Well the organisers of Llandudno fireworks display promised it would be “epic” and it looks like it was pretty spectacular! Here’s a photo of the fireworks which caused all those queues on the A55 and in Llandudno."

"Gridlock in Llandudno
It looks like Llandudno is pretty much gridlocked with traffic due to the fireworks."

A55 lanes closed as thousands flock to fireworks display
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 01, 2019, 09:39:57 am
"Llandudno fireworks captured in 12 incredible shots"
Below a spectacular photo of Llandudno
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/llandudno-fireworks-captured-12-incredible-17177525 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/llandudno-fireworks-captured-12-incredible-17177525)

Llandudno's 'spectacular' fireworks display attracts thousands of people.
The Pioneer reporting 19,000 in attendance..........also
"Commenting on 'worries' about the event potentially being the last one - due to increasing costs - and backlash about the event being hosted in October, cllr Marubbi added: "I do hope everyone appreciates the event.

"There is increasing costs. We could do with sponsorship from different businesses.

"I am very passionate about my town. We don't want to stop it, but this is public money. I know the rates are so high for businesses but they need to start helping. If businesses can give a little bit and we have a couple of good sponsors, just someone to help.

"We do get questions - why October? But we have to fit in with tidal times. If we did not have it then, then we would be looking towards the end of November."
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18006879.llandudnos-spectacular-fireworks-display-attracts-thousands-people/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18006879.llandudnos-spectacular-fireworks-display-attracts-thousands-people/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 04, 2019, 08:38:41 am
How low can some yobs go?       


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/yobs-break-foodbank-pour-out-17193873 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/yobs-break-foodbank-pour-out-17193873)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2019, 09:42:56 am
How low can some yobs go?       
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/yobs-break-foodbank-pour-out-17193873 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/yobs-break-foodbank-pour-out-17193873)

Unfortunately it also happened about this time last year,  lets hope the CCTV is as good as they say, this time.
14th September 2018
Llandudno community help charity, Ty Hapus, after vandal attack.... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16861689.llandudno-community-help-charity-ty-hapus-after-vandal-attack/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16861689.llandudno-community-help-charity-ty-hapus-after-vandal-attack/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 04, 2019, 11:36:50 am
That issue was different from this time, they had the culprits on cctv, police took now action though, the were a different lot and hopefully they turn up after school today to apologise and make good the food losses, otherwise see tomorrow whether the police take action, we can only hope.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 04, 2019, 02:25:24 pm
If those yobs don't come forward and make good the damage that they have done then the Police should have an obligation to investigate the matter
To not do so lets the yobs get away with it and they could do it again, also it undermines the faith and confidence that the public have in the Police for protecting the rights of decent people

The Rugby Club was broken into some years ago and the Police were conspicuous by their absence but I bet if some of the prop forwards were lying in wait for the intruders and the Police got to hear about it then I'm sure that a fleet of squad cars would be sent there to protect the perpetrators.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: spotty dog on November 04, 2019, 06:10:20 pm
UPDATE ON THE FOODBANK POST

This afternoon a dozen of the young people involved came to the centre and owned up to their part in the events of last week and apologised, they have replaced what they took and one even came back with a bagful of donations. We had a long chat about how the FoodBank works and who we help and we are pleased they chose to do the right thing.

Sadly the main instigators and the half dozen or so who stole most of the food and caused the damage didn’t have the guts to come and face us even though they knew others were, so first thing tomorrow morning further action will be taken against those few.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 04, 2019, 09:53:10 pm
One lot of lads and girls turned up after school and apologised and bought bags of stuff,later on the rest turned up,it was explained to them what went on at the food bank hopefully they have seen sense and learnt a lesson, the staff handled the situation very well and didn't have to give any names out.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 05, 2019, 04:23:42 pm
Norman, there was a small article about the yobs and the foodbank in today's Daily Mirror pg 4    I'm pleased that the matter has been resolved and the yobs can consider themselves lucky that the Centre was so magnanimous in dealing with such a dreadful incident
I hope that a lesson has been learnt by all those children involved
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 05, 2019, 08:32:56 pm
Jaynie handled the situation very well and the youngsters couldn't apologies enoug, they were told about the work about the foodbank,they later bought bags of stuff, they were assured the names wouldn't come out But were told nicely that anything within 12 months and the police and school would be involved, the police were not very happy to be honest as Jaynie wouldn't give them the names, we all just hope they have learnt their lesson.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 07, 2019, 07:28:22 pm
the youngsters couldn't apologies enough
Only because they realised they had no option other than to apologise or face the law. I doubt they were remorseful.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 07, 2019, 08:01:09 pm
We can only wait and see, as I say Jaynie handled it very well, the body language looked very good, and they bought a lot more to the bank than the ruined, Jaynie made a promise no names passed to police or school, But she explained she would keep on file for 12 months, the school have invited her to chat to the pupils the workings of the food banks,   I was disappointed today about one post one comment saying they should have been brought to the courts and crimilised etc, Is job 🤔High up in the probation service and we wonder why this country is knackered with people like him.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 08, 2019, 08:45:19 am
It's very difficult to comprehend why teens sometimes indulge in senseless vandalism. A lot of it is peer pressure, combined with the natural teen tendency to rebel. But you're right, Norman; I agree the situation was managed correctly. And some of the parents will have realised their children were involved and dealt with them, I suspect. But criminalising teens has been shown to be counter-productive.

One DP comment was

"This is the society we live in parents had all powers of discipline taken away from them and now look at what the country has become since then."

which caused a wry smile. This was a typical 'when I were a a lad' type of comment where the writer believed physical punishment works best for kids. It neatly overlooks things like facts, which show that parents don't need to hit their kids to bring up decent human beings.  But they do have to set the example.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? sort of !
Post by: SteveH on November 12, 2019, 10:09:04 am
Day Out With The Kids website showcases Llandudno beach.
Tropical white sands and a turquoise sea.


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/day-out-kids-website-showcases-17239302 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/day-out-kids-website-showcases-17239302)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 16, 2019, 11:11:47 am
A follow up on the food bank story..... REF DP

Foodbank overwhelmed as school rallies to support Llandudno centre.
Ysgol John Bright youngsters collected donations for Ty Hapus Community Resource Centre following break-in where items were trashed.

A food bank has been overwhelmed by its ‘single biggest donation ever’ thanks to kind-hearted schoolchildren who came to the rescue.
Thanks to Ysgol John Bright, supplies have been replenished after the pupils took part in a non-uniform day to support local children in need - but instead of paying a £1 donation, they were asked to donate an item to the foodbank.
The 16 to 18-year-olds volunteered to spend their day collecting, organising and unloading all the donations for the foodbank.

A spokesman for Ty Hapus said: “This has to be one of the biggest single donations we have ever received!
“Sadly it will be sent back out in parcels very quickly. However, this is going to go a long way to supporting local ‘Children in Need’ and their families."

They added that staff at the food bank are working to develop a relationship with younger generations, so they have a greater understanding of the struggles some in their school are facing.

Ysgol John Bright is also releasing pupils who wish to volunteer their time over the Christmas period to help staff at the foodbank to put together Christmas food parcels.
“Thank you so much to pupils, staff and parents for your kindness. It’s been a pretty heartwarming day", the spokesman added.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2019, 11:02:05 am
Watching all the Marathon runners on their way up Church Walks, heading for the Marine Dr. section, I thought initially hundreds, but I believe there could be up to 3,000, very impressive, good luck to them all, and there various charities.

Reading the news this morning I noticed this article, which from my observations, not all of the runners are aware of....  :roll:

Runners at north Wales' largest running event will be disqualified if they drop litter during the race.
Organisers of Sunday's Conwy Half Marathon said the measures had been introduced as plastic was becoming an "increasing problem".
he Run Wales website said runners will also be "taken off the results if seen discarding their rubbish outside of a water stop or not with a marshal".  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50389804 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50389804)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2019, 03:23:53 pm
Air Ambulance has been hovering/circling over Westshore/marine drive area for about 10 mins.... ? 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 18, 2019, 03:36:38 pm
About 20 minutes ago I saw two Police cars with flashing lights on racing up Ty Gwyn Road on the Great Orme, this was followed soon after by a large Police van with its lights flashing too.
Something must be going on up there but I've no idea what
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2019, 04:25:41 pm
Still no idea of the situation, I thought I heard it take off a while ago, but it has just lifted and is heading for Bangor.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 18, 2019, 08:04:05 pm
Apparently there was an accident on the Great Orme today

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-flown-hospital-after-great-17277041 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-flown-hospital-after-great-17277041)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2019, 08:16:34 pm
Apparently there was an accident on the Great Orme today
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-flown-hospital-after-great-17277041 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-flown-hospital-after-great-17277041)
Thanks Hugo, I thought it was going to be a worse situation, I thought I heard more than one landing/take off, I had a look at the Coastguard site, I'll post their report below......

We were paged at around 14:30 today to assist the Welsh Ambulance Services NHS Trust with a fallen casualty on the Great Orme.

Also called were the Emergency Medical Retrieval and Transfer Service - EMRTS Wales team on board the Wales Air Ambulance Charity.

It was clear our technical rescue skills were not required on this occasion, however, we were able to provide assistance by setting up a landing site for the helicopter and, once the casualty was packaged, we assisted by carrying the casualty to the helicopter for onward transport to hospital.

Once the helicopter had taken off, we were no longer required and returned to station.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on November 19, 2019, 11:51:22 am
Work has finally started to net off the cliff above the Car Park on Happy Valley Road. Coin Jones has been employed to install the preventative Rock Fall Netting
http://www.rock-engineering.co.uk/index.html (http://www.rock-engineering.co.uk/index.html)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 21, 2019, 12:49:43 pm
Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
« Reply #8156 on: October 02, 2019, 12:32:13 PM »

A follow up to the above post.... There is something in my mind that this event cost the council £70,000, but I cannot remember why I think this.... sorry,   anybody ?

A NEW winter event managed to draw in thousands of people, but also left many folk scratching their heads

An impressive 15,000 people turned out for the first Winter Light - Chapter I in Llandudno on Saturday, November 16. During the day, the event featured workshops, textile art drop-in, storytelling, retro games, roaming Pierrot artists, heritage talks, Welsh National Opera Community Chorus, light projections and fire performances.

The main procession on Mostyn Street attracted mixed reviews.   cont.. https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18051655.onward-upwards-attitude-ahead-llandudnos-winter-light-chapter-ii-first-part-event-attracts-mixed-views/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18051655.onward-upwards-attitude-ahead-llandudnos-winter-light-chapter-ii-first-part-event-attracts-mixed-views/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....Llandudno Hospital open day
Post by: SteveH on November 22, 2019, 10:11:41 am
This is a great local asset, which I think is in danger of being closed, a bit at a time, it needs our support.

RESIDENTS are being offered a 'behind-the-scenes' look around Llandudno Hospital.

An open day is being held on Saturday, November 30 between 10am and 2pm.

Attendees will be able to find out more about services available in the town and a tour will be conducted by matron Phil Rathbone.

Cont.  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18052279.go-behind-scenes-llandudno-hospital-open-day/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18052279.go-behind-scenes-llandudno-hospital-open-day/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 22, 2019, 06:32:35 pm
Several attempts to close it have been thwarted in the past, Steve; but they keep trying.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 06, 2019, 09:52:57 am
Magical Christmas Parade, Llandudno.

Saturday 7th December 2019.
Father Christmas will arrive in Llandudno by train and the Parade will leave the Station at 4pm, proceeding from the Station up Vaughan Street to Mostyn Street, and then into Lloyd Street, down Madoc Street, Augusta Street and back to the Station.
Entertainment outside the Town Hall from 2:40pm to include: Llandudno Town Band, Ysgol John Bright, Ysgol Blessed William Davies Choir, Disney Princesses and the Batala Bermo Samba Band.
Town Hall Christmas Lights Switch On by the Mayor.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like.... TODAY .. ‘Winter Light – Golau Gaeaf’
Post by: SteveH on December 14, 2019, 12:30:42 pm
The second instalment of an inaugural winter visitor event takes place in Llandudno TODAY..........

Entitled ‘The Mermaid’s Purse’ Chapter 2 of the Conwy County Borough Council-commissioned free ‘Winter Light – Golau Gaeaf’ spectacle continues on Saturday December 14, at 5pm.     full timetable https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Visitor/Events/Winter-Light/winter-light.aspx (https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Visitor/Events/Winter-Light/winter-light.aspx)

Following the magical winter procession along Mostyn Street, back in November, the unfolding story of myths and legends based on the Great Orme returns for its second chapter on Saturday December 14 at 5pm – again on Mostyn Street near North Western Gardens.

‘Winter Light – Golau Gaeaf’ is a creative collaboration between Walk the Plank and Illuminos, commissioned by Conwy County Borough Council, Venue Cymru and Conwy Arts Trust and supported by Arts Council Wales and the Welsh government.

Other events taking place to support the event include:

Storytelling at Llandudno Library from 12-1pm (16+), 2-3pm, 4-5pm
BFI Films & Talk (British Film Industry) at St John’s Church at 3-6pm

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18101979.second-instalment-colourful-winter-event-set-light-llandudno/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18101979.second-instalment-colourful-winter-event-set-light-llandudno/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 17, 2019, 09:55:54 am
THE second installment of an inaugural winter visitor event took has taken place in Llandudno.

Photos  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18106134.brilliant-lights-festival-throws-brilliant-light-onto-llandudno/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18106134.brilliant-lights-festival-throws-brilliant-light-onto-llandudno/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 26, 2019, 11:00:56 pm
Driver arrested after car chase in Llandudno


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/driver-arrested-following-boxing-day-17476661 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/driver-arrested-following-boxing-day-17476661)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mondie on December 27, 2019, 10:21:07 pm
Ah, that happened around the corner from us Hugo, wondered what all the lights and commotion was all about. No shortage of idiots doing 50 around here, good to see this clown took a wrong turn into a cul de sac.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 16, 2020, 02:10:03 pm
If you saw the large police presence this morning.............

Up to 10 police cars were called to Mostyn Avenue in Craig Y Don, Llandudno, at around 10.40am today.                    ref DP

A North Wales Police spokesman said: "We were called to Mostyn Aveue at 10.42am. Someone was arrested after decamping from a car. They were arrested on suspicion of drug offences."

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 22, 2020, 11:52:24 am
Good for the area, but again WG funding to a private company  :-\

SNOWSPORT fans can enjoy new improvements made to a Llandudno attraction.

Llandudno Snowsport Centre reopened earlier this month with a newly resurfaced main slope.
Skiers and snowboarders are already enjoying putting the modern ski tech bristle matting through its paces.

“The total £300k cost of the redevelopment by the facility’s owners John Nike Leisure (Bracknel Berkshire ltd) was massively assisted by the Place for Sport funding.”
A grant of £75,000 went towards the Llandudno resurfacing.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18177826.llandudno-snowsport-centre-boasts-new-modern-ski-tech-bristle-matting-following-revamp/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18177826.llandudno-snowsport-centre-boasts-new-modern-ski-tech-bristle-matting-following-revamp/)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 22, 2020, 10:24:22 pm
When the pavement eventually gets replaced by CCBC on the other side of the road in Mostyn Street, I wonder if only six feet of the outer pavement here will be replaced.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 22, 2020, 10:42:43 pm
I can never understand how they are allowed to block that much of the pavement,  talking of pavements last year they were meant to have fixed the block paving along the vic centre it seems worse now than it was.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 23, 2020, 08:05:30 am
You can also see a tree and a pole towards the pavement edge.

As a consequence, there is actually only a gap of four feet, or the width of two paving slabs, for pedestrians to pass through. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on January 23, 2020, 04:46:31 pm
The two Barrels and the Karaoke signs are actually on the pavement not on the Town House front garden. If it's a problem, report it on fixmystreet.com (http://fixmystreet.com) and gain another 3 feet of Pavement. {}{}
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 24, 2020, 10:50:11 am
Local police were very busy yesterday......

"A WOMAN has been seriously injured following an incident involving a vehicle on a driveway in Craig y Don.
 “The woman was treated by paramedics at the scene and police officers assisted. At this stage the circumstances of what happened are unclear, the investigation is being led by officers from the Roads Policing Unit. The vehicle involved is being removed for examination. "

"A biker was killed in a late-night crash in Conwy county.
The male motorcyclist was pronounced dead at the scene of the two-vehicle collision, which involved a Vauxhall Astra, on the B5106 near Ty'n y Groes on Thursday night.
"Major police presence on the B5106 by Tal-y-Cafyn. Armed response and two traffic officers there at the moment and more police cars going over the Tal-y-Cafyn bridge."

"Knife victim staggers into McDonald's after violent incident at hotel car park"     
North Wales Police, said, “An incident, involving the use of a knife, is believed to have happened in the car park of the Links Hotel on Conwy Road, whereby the male has received lacerations to his face."                                       All DP ref
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 26, 2020, 04:59:00 am
The two Barrels and the Karaoke signs are actually on the pavement not on the Town House front garden. If it's a problem, report it on fixmystreet.com (http://fixmystreet.com) and gain another 3 feet of Pavement.

Quite honestly, Blongb, I believe the present problem will disappear when the pavement is eventually replaced on this side of Mostyn Street.

I am also of the opinion those paving slabs are actually two feet wide and if so, pedestrians are likely to retrieve up to four feet giving them as much as eight feet to pass by that tree and pole.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 29, 2020, 06:34:59 pm
It was nice to read an article in today's NWWN by John Lawson Reay entitled "Town commemorates a remarkable man"
It was an article about William MacMullan otherwise known to everyone as Billy Mac.    It was a fitting tribute to Billy and everyone who has met him always had a good word to say about him.
As a group in our teens we would always meet up there in the evening before going into town and then again before going home.  To us he was a fountain of knowledge and always gave us sound advice if we ever asked him about something, which we did quite often.
He was such a lovely guy that he would be missed by all who had met him.   It was good to see the name of the shop still there as it brings back many happy memories of my younger days
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 29, 2020, 08:59:28 pm
Everyone new Billy Mac, such a lovely guy, I went along to the small ceremony outside the shop they have put a sign above the shop for him. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 05, 2020, 10:13:02 am
I know housing is important, but they do seem to be cramming them in, the comment re "narrow thoroughfare" is an understatement, not as economical, but Llandudno needs the car parking.

A public consultation is underway about a brownfield site, town centre housing development that could encourage people to ditch their cars for greener transport.       ref Pioneer

The 89-home mixed development would be built on derelict land between Builder Street and Llandudno railway station.
Builder Street is home to a number of small businesses and is a narrow thoroughfare – but busy during business hours.

The scheme would see 33 two, three and four bedroom homes, plus 56 one and two bedroom apartments.

Because of the site’s close proximity to local shops, Llandudno rail station and local bus services it is being promoted in the travel plan as good for cyclists and walkers.

The report says the proposed development would be “highly accessible by non-car modes, which would assist in promoting a choice of travel modes other than the private car”.

Steve Grimster, of Grimster Planning consultancy in Cheshire, is working on the project on behalf of Lane End Development Construction Ltd, based in Warrington.

He wants local people to have their say on the idea to turn one of the town’s eyesores into apartments and family homes, by commenting in a “pre-planning consultation”.
He said: “We would certainly encourage people to make their comments known. It’s a transparent way of doing things and gives local people a chance to have their say.”

The 1.3 hectare parcel of land, which has been used as an impromptu car park and currently houses a hand car wash, has also been a venue for some of the town’s homeless people. It is also bordered by Oxford Road.

The proposal, which has not yet been submitted to Conwy county council, would see 11 two-bedroom, 14 three-bedroom and eight four-bedroom homes on the site.

In addition, there would be 30 two-bedroom and 26 one-bedroom apartments in the scheme.

The site is listed in a C1 (low risk) flood zone and reports by the developer state groundwater flooding will not be a problem. A small area of land will be elevated to minimise any flood fears.

To see more details about the proposed development go to: https://www.grimsterplanning.co.uk/pre-application-consultation/builder-street-llandudno?fbclid=IwAR3AWK8mtYb9jcY4ev2tgJgXMJDdMF0LSBc6Co5oYWI7-lVMxryomzlQ4PQ (https://www.grimsterplanning.co.uk/pre-application-consultation/builder-street-llandudno?fbclid=IwAR3AWK8mtYb9jcY4ev2tgJgXMJDdMF0LSBc6Co5oYWI7-lVMxryomzlQ4PQ)

Anyone wishing to comment on the plan should email: steve@grimsterplanning.co.uk


     
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on February 05, 2020, 06:14:57 pm
Must admit I'd have thought car parking would have been prioritised there, might help boost the town centre again.

However, if they do go down the housing route which "could encourage people to ditch their cars for greener transport" maybe they should start by not providing any parking spaces and see how far they get trying to sell them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on February 05, 2020, 07:53:01 pm
It will make you wonder if this gets the go ahead, the council give the Neville plans the knock back, these comming months will be very interesting about different plans in the pipeline.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on February 06, 2020, 01:53:52 pm
just a change of thread,  I prostrated myself outside St. John’s Church this morning, not as an act of penance or prayer, but as a result of the damn uneven flagstones, I’ll be glad when they get round to dealing with them. It’s bloody painful at my age. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 06, 2020, 03:04:39 pm
Nasty hope all is well.............
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on February 06, 2020, 03:53:28 pm
I sprained my back and the tip of one of my fingers has turned blue, probably bursts a vein.  Thanks for your thoughts
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 06, 2020, 05:31:03 pm
Sorry to hear that Quiggs and hope that everything gets better soon.

Report the matter to the authorities though as it could happen to someone else again.     
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 07, 2020, 10:18:11 am
A Llandudno grandmother had the shock of her life when a paraglider landed on her roof.

Yvonne Kavanagh, of Abbey Place, was quietly reading her book when she heard a "massive thud" on her roof.

The 72-year-old former hotel owner rushed out of the house, thinking her chimney had collapsed.
She said: "At first I just couldn't work it out, because when I ran out of the house I couldn't spot anything but for a few broken roof tiles.
"I then thought the chimney must have collapsed so ran upstairs and saw these coloured chords across one of the windows, and didn't have a clue what they were.

"I went back outside, and then saw this man of top of my roof saying, 'Don't worry, I'm fine', and I replied 'But what about my roof?'"

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paraglider-crash-lands-roof-house-17700363 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paraglider-crash-lands-roof-house-17700363)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 09, 2020, 10:30:58 am
First images of Penderyn whisky's £5m Llandudno distillery as plans submitted
The Welsh brand hopes to secure planning permission to convert the Old Board School on Lloyd Street.

Penderyn has released the first images of its planned £5m distillery and and visitor centre in Llandudno as plans for the scheme are submitted.

The Welsh whisky brand has secured a £1.4m Welsh Government cash offer for its first expansion into North Wales.

Bosses at the Aberdare based business hope to secure planning permission to convert the current Conwy Archives site at Old Board School on Lloyd Street into a distillery for their world renowned spirits.  cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/first-images-penderyn-whiskys-5m-17709035 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/first-images-penderyn-whiskys-5m-17709035)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?........ New Pay and Display
Post by: SteveH on February 17, 2020, 04:52:17 pm
Pay and Display planned for Craig y Don promenade to cope with £11m funding shortfall.

PAY and display machines could be introduced along the parade from Craig y Don and towards the RNLI Lifeboat Station in Llandudno.

The machines are being proposed along with other suggested strategies as Conwy County Borough Council find ways to cope with a £11m funding shortfall.

Other ‘additional income’ proposals include reviewing parking charges to encourage car share, active travel and public transport use; the use of part of Mostyn Broadway Coach Park for pay and display car parking and introducing street parking charges on Gloddaeth Street / Avenue, Llandudno.   
cont... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18241066.pay-display-planned-craig-y-don-promenade-cope-11m-funding-shortfall/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18241066.pay-display-planned-craig-y-don-promenade-cope-11m-funding-shortfall/)


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...........Venue Cymru
Post by: SteveH on February 21, 2020, 02:06:16 pm
A £3million redevelopment of Venue Cymru’s arts and conference spaces has been completed.

The project includes the creation of a 180sq conference/studio room, a multi-purpose space with sprung floor that can be used for performances, rehearsal and conferences.

A demountable partition has been installed in the main hall, allowing the 700sq metre space to be split in two.

The ground-floor Orme suite has been remodelled.


cont.  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18252610.minister-eluned-morgan-joins-guests-mark-official-opening-newly-redeveloped-facilities-llandudnos-venue-cymru/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18252610.minister-eluned-morgan-joins-guests-mark-official-opening-newly-redeveloped-facilities-llandudnos-venue-cymru/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 27, 2020, 11:21:00 am
Nice night for a wander round the town checking out the council flower beds....or seeing what Waldron is up to.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on February 27, 2020, 02:40:17 pm
Unfortunately for us, some kind considerate soul left our front gate open and as a result the Goats in your photo's came through our front Garden on their way down to the Prom. Luckily we had put up our chicken wire protection over the front flowerbed so have only suffered minor damage to our plants, so far this year.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 27, 2020, 03:27:51 pm
Unfortunately for us, some kind considerate soul left our front gate open and as a result the Goats in your photo's came through our front Garden on their way down to the Prom. Luckily we had put up our chicken wire protection over the front flowerbed so have only suffered minor damage to our plants, so far this year.

We are in the position, that they can enter if neighbors leave their's open, the trouble is they cannot get back out, and get stuck in ours, as a matter of interest, we have a "gate closing spring" fitted which does a great job......  example  ......

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Homezone%C2%AE-Vintage-Galvanised-Garden-Fittings/dp/B07662YY1N/ref=asc_df_B07662YY1N/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=272558806266&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4774803218193225674&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061004&hvtargid=pla-446314275061&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Homezone%C2%AE-Vintage-Galvanised-Garden-Fittings/dp/B07662YY1N/ref=asc_df_B07662YY1N/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=272558806266&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4774803218193225674&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9061004&hvtargid=pla-446314275061&psc=1)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 09, 2020, 09:35:36 am
There was a 10K road race around the Great Orme on Saturday and I know that it went ahead as I've seen the results but does anyone know if the route went past St Petrocks and the Toll House on the West Shore
The only reason I'm asking is because that section of the road was closed to pedestrians on Thursday last week
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 09, 2020, 09:55:38 am
I got the impression they were doing circuits, around West Shore, and up past Ysgol San Sior on Church Walks ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 09, 2020, 11:26:22 am
Thanks Steve     $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 09, 2020, 11:40:39 am
I got the impression they were doing circuits, around West Shore, and up past Ysgol San Sior on Church Walks ?

and down the prom and back.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?. ..... Labour Party conference cancelled
Post by: SteveH on March 15, 2020, 10:45:02 am
FIRST Minister of Wales Mark Drakeford has issued a statement on the coronavirus outbreak.

“I know that many of you are worried about the global Coronavirus outbreak as it begins to gather pace Wales.

part of the article
“I have decided to cancel the Welsh Labour Party conference in Llandudno at the end of March, to make sure Welsh Government Ministers are available to deal with the coronavirus outbreak at all times.

cont..  https://www.tivysideadvertiser.co.uk/news/18305281.coronavirus-first-ministers-statement/?ref=rss (https://www.tivysideadvertiser.co.uk/news/18305281.coronavirus-first-ministers-statement/?ref=rss)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on March 31, 2020, 01:57:19 pm
'Llandudno Goat Town' was mentioned by Dr Hilary Jones on the Lorraine programme. It showed a clip of the rampaging goats running amok around the streets of Llandudno eating everything in site. Lorraine commented "these wee gorgeous things can go where they like now". Sorry I can't put a link on for you all to watch, perhaps some kind member of the forum could put the link on.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 31, 2020, 02:00:02 pm
Hugo has posted it thanks. Wee gorgeous things??? Great smelly beasts more like.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on March 31, 2020, 02:13:42 pm
Thanks Nemesis, they are indeed wee smelly beasts.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 02, 2020, 11:09:22 am
What on earth makes people behave like idiots?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tyres-slashed-more-20-cars-18027027 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tyres-slashed-more-20-cars-18027027)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on April 02, 2020, 02:06:24 pm
It beggars belief Hugo, pure evil. Let's hope they name them & shame them, people won't forget this for a very long time especially if they are cars owned by people working in the vital services  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 02, 2020, 02:46:47 pm
In the current climate it wouldn't surprise me if they got custodial sentences. And rightly so.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 03, 2020, 04:27:31 pm
What on earth makes people behave like idiots?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tyres-slashed-more-20-cars-18027027 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tyres-slashed-more-20-cars-18027027)

Two men have been charged with causing damage to 36 different vehicles in Llandudno.

North Wales Police said Jason Lang, 42, from Llandudno has been charged with three counts of theft, possession of a pointed article in a public place and criminal damage to 37 motor vehicles in Llandudno.

Benjamin Hughes, 25, also from Llandudno was charged with criminal damage to 37 vehicles.

Both were remanded in custody to appear before court today.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/two-men-charged-causing-damage-18035521 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/two-men-charged-causing-damage-18035521)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on April 11, 2020, 08:46:13 pm
Anybody know why the air ambulance dropped in to Blind Veterans yesterday?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 15, 2020, 10:49:49 am
Coronavirus: Rough sleepers to be housed in cabins in town hall car park
Conwy Council has introduced its emergency accommodation measures as local authorities told to protect homeless during Covid-19 outbreak.

The small number of homeless people that Conwy Council have not yet been able to accommodate will be given a cabin on Llandudno Town Hall car park.            cont.    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/coraonvirus-rough-sleepers-housed-cabins-18089609 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/coraonvirus-rough-sleepers-housed-cabins-18089609)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 15, 2020, 03:45:51 pm
This morning, on our way to the chemist, I noticed some of said cabins on a huge lorry and also a crane in the Mostyn Broadway coach park.

Just a question. Who will be responsible for cleaning, toilet emptying and other housekeeping jobs? Considering that the public toilets are mainly shut, the people who do such an important job will be assigned elsewhere.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 15, 2020, 05:46:32 pm
They'll probably ask for volunteers Nemesis,   would you be interested in doing it?                    $fan$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 15, 2020, 06:33:58 pm
In a word Hugo NO. Just at the moment I couldn't actually walk so far. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2020, 07:48:02 am
On a serious side Nemesis if the plan is effective then Social workers should be assigned to them to try and get them help for the future with more permanent accommodation, that's of course if they will accept the offer of help given as not all of them do.
We should look after our own people who are not as fortunate as us


On a different but similar note I listened to a man an woman who were speaking on behalf of over 300 illegal women immigrants who were being held in detention centres.       They said that the women should be released into the community and be found suitable accommodation where they could self isolate and be provided with Social workers to look after their needs

It's a mad mad world

   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 16, 2020, 08:54:10 am
It certainly is.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on April 28, 2020, 10:40:55 am
An application has gone in to CCBC Planning Department for a development of 89 dwellings comprising 33 houses & 56 Apartments, at land adjacent to Llandudno Station. Lane End Development Construction Ltd a Warrington Company will build the proposed development on behalf of a Housing Association & will deliver 100% affordable housing.
I hope this application is successful, as this type of development is very much needed in the area, especially for the over 65's.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 28, 2020, 10:51:00 am
It's time that that old Station Yard was developed and nice to see the word "affordable"  especially for 100% of the dwellings.    The only thing that would bother me is Mostyn Estates interest as they own the freehold on that eyesore that was once a car wash.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on April 28, 2020, 11:25:28 am
Hugo will be very interesting what happens with that planning app as only last year they rejected peter Jones from the Neville to build flats rejected worry about flooding etc that is in the same area, why that guy has sat on that land all these years different people have been in touch with him re buying but wouldn't even the council that land was part of plans to fit in with regeneration of the town , we will wait and see what talks Again in our town .
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 28, 2020, 11:54:52 am
You've got a point Norman about the application  that Peter Jones made for the Neville.     I'm no expert but would imagine that the former Castle Hotel isn't situated on higher ground than the Neville so how come the Castle Hotel got planning and the Neville didn't.   
Perhaps the answer is too obvious
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 28, 2020, 12:11:48 pm
Quote
Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
« Reply #8203 on: February 05, 2020, 10:13:02 AM »    http://www.threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7.8190.html#top (http://www.threetownsforum.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7.8190.html#top)

The above post, had the Pioneer's piece on the original application, part of the piece said.......

" The site is listed in a C1 (low risk) flood zone and reports by the developer state groundwater flooding will not be a problem. A small area of land will be elevated to minimise any flood fears."

Appreciating the need for affordable housing, it was also mentioned, that this land is one of the few suitable places left for car parking in Llandudno.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on April 28, 2020, 04:38:02 pm

I hope this application is successful, as this type of development is very much needed in the area, especially for the over 65's.

Really...over 65's? Surely they would be either bought by new retirees to the area and not locals, or if they are locals, why would they need one as they would already have one because they certainly wouldn't be getting a mortgage at that age.
I'm sure the target age would be much, much younger.
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Post by: Quiggs on April 28, 2020, 05:17:54 pm
I don’t think housing associations sell their properties
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Post by: Bri Roberts on April 28, 2020, 05:48:37 pm
Affordable by way of rents, Dave.
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Post by: Meleri on April 29, 2020, 11:02:30 am
To be eligible for a Housing Association dwelling you have to be on the Social Housing Register. There are over 1,000 people on the Conwy County register & a high percentage are over 65. A lot of these people have lost their Partner/Husband/Wife & children left home, leaving a single person living in a 3/4 bedroom house they can't afford & wish to transfer to a smaller property, but there aren't many available. If they built more smaller dwellings to move these people to this would release the larger properties for families. Some housing associations do offer part buy part rent to people on low incomes on the register, to help them get on the housing ladder. These properties won't be on the open market.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Llewlyn on April 29, 2020, 06:19:53 pm
The 2 bedroom terraced houses in Conwy Town used to be bought by 60+ downsizing, they have two bedrooms and are ideal for shopping, pubs and restaurants, not needing a car. Sadly these houses are being snapped up by investors to rent out as holiday cottages. Two bedroom ones are advertized as suitable for up to 6 guests. Sardines or what, large SUVs block the streets, its party central.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2020, 11:17:48 am
I had a quick visit to the West Shore yesterday and it was a lovely day and for a change it wasn't windy there.    There weren't many people about apart from a group of about 6 to 8 young male and female anglers about to go fishing.
No social distancing of course and I don't know if they were local or not as they should have known that the tide was out!

No Goats to be seen anywhere either, perhaps Steve and Nemesis have sent them packing!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 15, 2020, 11:25:17 am
Hugo, I think they have moved into Trinity Square, it is going to be difficult, convincing them to go back up the Orme.

Another old haunt of yours...........
Penderyn secures whisky distillery go-ahead despite residents' concerns over 'smells'
The £5m distillery will be constructed at the Old Board School site in Llandudno

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/penderyn-secures-whisky-distillery-go-18252769 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/penderyn-secures-whisky-distillery-go-18252769)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 15, 2020, 12:52:12 pm
That's OK then Steve but don't chase them off to Colwyn Bay      ;D

I enjoyed going to the Archives in the old Lloyd Street School.     I remember the Head's office very well as we only went there to get the cane!   

I'll be glad when the new Archives opens to the public in Conwy it looks a nice building
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on May 15, 2020, 01:38:35 pm
They appear to have changed the traffic lights at the right turn towards Champneys by McDonalds. Long delays waiting when there is little traffic encouraging drivers to go through on red. Why the change doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 15, 2020, 01:43:51 pm
Hugo, I think they have moved into Trinity Square, it is going to be difficult, convincing them to go back up the Orme.

There were 20 or more in Rectory Lane and Church Walks the other afternoon. My OH and another chap herded them into St Georges' grounds for their safety and everyone elses.
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Post by: SteveH on May 15, 2020, 02:47:06 pm
Quote
There were 20 or more in Rectory Lane and Church Walks the other afternoon. My OH and another chap herded them into St Georges' grounds for their safety and everyone elses.

Probably wishful thinking on my part.    :(
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Post by: Blongb on May 16, 2020, 07:57:09 pm
We had 3 big Billy.s out the back of ours last night and as a consequence we managed to get rid of a large pile of privet cuttings with out having to buy a bin from Brysons and it probably saved a lot of the gardens further down Hill Terrace.  *tumble* 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 23, 2020, 10:09:34 am
Second home owner says it's 'only fair' he gets council tax rebate while he can't visit in lockdown
Michael Singleton, who has a property in Llandudno, said he understands why he can't visit North Wales.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/second-home-owner-says-its-18283034 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/second-home-owner-says-its-18283034)
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Post by: Hugo on May 23, 2020, 05:21:09 pm
Second home owner says it's 'only fair' he gets council tax rebate while he can't visit in lockdown
Michael Singleton, who has a property in Llandudno, said he understands why he can't visit North Wales.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/second-home-owner-says-its-18283034 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/second-home-owner-says-its-18283034)

If the chap spends 50% of his time in Llandudno then 50% of his time is spent in Cheshire so why has he not already claimed Council Tax relief from the Cheshire Council?   
Perhaps he should try that and see what the reply is from that English Council
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 27, 2020, 04:14:29 pm
Thankfully it all ended well but it could have been so different.     Locals should know better on the West Shore but were these people Covidiots or not as the report doesn't mention the fact?


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/family-trapped-sandbank-rescued-seconds-18318940 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/family-trapped-sandbank-rescued-seconds-18318940)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 30, 2020, 05:21:49 pm
Seemed a lot more people about today, lots of walkers and cyclists passing by, we could also hear a couple of small garden parties close by, but the main observation has been the number of sirens today, lots of medical and at least three fire sirens, is this it getting back to normal ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2020, 06:25:25 pm
The most important thing is that the 30 people who were on the sandbank at West Shore are safe and well but there is obviously a problem there that needs addressing.
I wonder if those people were local and either oblivious to the danger they had placed themselves and potential rescuers in or were they just stupid?    Does anyone know if the rescuers have to ask the people if they are local as part of their work in the present circumstances?
Visitors may be unaware of the dangers and although they shouldn't be there anyway, no one wants a repetition of the fatality that happened some years ago on that sandbank
Perhaps a warning sign near the car park is needed as not only is it a popular place it also has a web cam there just in case any undesirables wanted to damage the sign
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2020, 06:56:47 pm
I've long pondered whether they're simply and woefully ignorant or plain stupid.  I wonder how anyone living in the UK can reach adulthood and not understand tides. Of course, we do have one of the larger tidal ranges in global terms, but even simple observation would suggest that the tides do come in and out and can reach a decent height.

Hoylake and West Kirby both have signs warning of quick sands and tidal gullies. But people continue to get trapped.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 31, 2020, 07:16:21 pm
Hugo I,m sorry to say some so called locals are stupid, I've heard some say I know what I,m doing I know the tides and the banks,😡 If on your walk if you stand on invalids or better still climb the zig zag to the top ( the styal ) and look down to see how the banks have changed by the Orme side, they would like to put a pontoon over that side but scared youngsters would mess with it, the thing is the weather has been great as soon as the first rescue took place the council Should have got the guy down there patrolling,but patrolling from the middle not by the Orme, people say their are enough signs to be honest I don't think so. But you can never have enough signs.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2020, 11:11:57 pm
I took this photo a while ago and can see exactly what you mean Norman.      That first groyne has altered the natural flow of the sea and created that sandbank.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 01, 2020, 09:04:05 am
Yes Hugo as you can see to the right and front of that groyne the way it has changed the water comes in so quick round there, I was on the beach with the dog one morning within half hour the tide had come in so quick, so as I say a lot of these so called locals who say they know the area Don't,i always remember what my dad said always respect the sea.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 01, 2020, 09:56:16 am
Good words of advice from your Dad Norman.      $good$

Your Dad was an expert on the sea and I remember a story which Uncle Bob told me many years ago when he was a night watchman on the Pier.   One evening as it was getting darker a yacht had started to moor by the Pier so Uncle Bob shouted to the boat owner " you can't moor there" but before he could finish his sentence  the boat owner angrily shouted back " I can moor the boat anywhere I like"
What Uncle Bob was going to say was " you can't moor there BECAUSE the tide goes out past that point"
He had the last laugh anyway because in the morning he could see the owner of the single keeled yacht baling out the water as the yacht went on its side.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 01, 2020, 03:27:10 pm
Seemed a lot more people about today, lots of walkers and cyclists passing by, we could also hear a couple of small garden parties close by, but the main observation has been the number of sirens today, lots of medical and at least three fire sirens, is this it getting back to normal ?

After mentioning on Saturday the number of sirens I heard throughout the day, the reasons have now come to light, apart from the Fire service´s three call outs,  I had forgotten that the Coastguard vehicles also use sirens, I presume now on their way to the West Shore situations, and I have just read that Police and paramedics were called to a Llandudno man, in Madoc street, who had unfortunately passed away.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 02, 2020, 10:55:37 am
It seems that Rhyl has the same problem with idiots on the sandbanks

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/two-people-rescued-lifeboat-crews-18347482 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/two-people-rescued-lifeboat-crews-18347482)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 15, 2020, 01:24:13 pm
ABOUT 60 people are being made redundant from a Llandudno research centre.

Due to the pressures of the Covid-19 pandemic, global Geoscience firm CGG Robertson has begun the consultation process for axing jobs at its facility in Llanrhos.

According to representatives from Unite - the UK’s largest trade union - jobs affected include highly skilled scientists and technicians.
The job losses have been described as a ‘devastating blow’ for workers and the area.

Daryl Williams, Unite Regional Officer, said: “This news is a devastating blow for North West Wales which is already suffering badly from the collapse in the leisure and tourism sector as a result of the Covid-19 epidemic.”

The oil and gas consultancy company are citing the fall in global oil prices as an underlying cause behind their decision.

Cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18517460.unite-urges-cgg-robertson-halt-llanrhos-covid-19-redundancies/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18517460.unite-urges-cgg-robertson-halt-llanrhos-covid-19-redundancies/)
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Post by: SteveH on June 16, 2020, 10:02:21 am
A TOWN’s bloom efforts have been put on hold due to Covid-19.

Due to ongoing concerns associated with the virus and continued social distancing requirements, Llandudno Town Council has found it necessary to cancel this year’s Llandudno Bloom competition.
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18519720.we-will-bloom-again-promises-llandudno-town-council-contest-cancelled/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18519720.we-will-bloom-again-promises-llandudno-town-council-contest-cancelled/)


AROUND 2,500 workers are set to lose their jobs at builders' merchant Travis Perkins.

The company - which has stores in Wrexham, Mold, Deeside, Rhyl, Llandudno and Caernarfon - said the decision comes as it expects the recession to hit the trade for at least two years.
https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/18518934.around-2-500-workers-set-lose-jobs-builders-merchant-travis-perkins/?ref=rss (https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/18518934.around-2-500-workers-set-lose-jobs-builders-merchant-travis-perkins/?ref=rss)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 20, 2020, 09:59:26 am
LLANDUDNO'S war memorial is to undergo maintenance.

Barriers will be in place around the memorial on the promenade while work is carried out. The work will start on June 22 and will last about 10 to 14 days.

Cllr Angela O’Grady, Llandudno mayor, said: "The War Memorial was created 98 years ago and, has fared extremely well during that time in all weather conditions. But having had the current condition of the monument assessed, it was clear that essential maintenance was required urgently.

"It is good to know that the work planned will ensure the War Memorial will stand for at least another 100 years so we can all continue to remember the fallen together”.

The work involves carefully removing the bronze name plates and cleaning the reverse of the plaques and wall area, removing existing fixings and replacing with new fixings and re-bonding the plaques back in place.

The War Memorial was designed by architect Sidney Colwyn Foulkes, who was based in Colwyn Bay and designed many of the area’s finest buildings of the early 20th century.                                             ref Pioneer

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Post by: Blongb on June 20, 2020, 10:48:03 pm
At the going down of the Sun and in the Morning, we will remember them. $uk
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 26, 2020, 10:44:02 am
Setting up a Light Show on the Prom. Strange thing to do during lockdown

Photos from FB
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Post by: SteveH on June 26, 2020, 03:28:41 pm
update on above............

LLANDUDNO Promenade was lit up in the colours of the rainbow last night in support of the nation's key workers.

As with many other locations across Wales and the UK as a whole, the buildings along the promenade were lit up to show appreciation to the key workers, such as NHS staff, who have been on the frontline throughout the coronavirus pandemic.

The rainbow has become a symbol of hope since the pandemic hit the UK in March and several notable locations throughout North Wales have been lit up in its colours.

If you missed it last night, then there will be another opportunity to witness it tonight.        ref Pioneer

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 04, 2020, 11:23:35 am
Curator and a community education learning office appointed ahead of opening of £1.7m re-developed Llandudno Museum and Gallery

The £1.7m re-development of a Llandudno Museum and Gallery, which will help the heritage attraction tell the story of the resort’s history in a more vibrant way, improve disabled access and provide enhanced educational facilities, is progressing well.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18559082.curator-community-education-learning-office-appointed-ahead-opening-1-7m-re-developed-llandudno-museum-gallery/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18559082.curator-community-education-learning-office-appointed-ahead-opening-1-7m-re-developed-llandudno-museum-gallery/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 08, 2020, 09:05:19 am
I had a walk on the Promenade about two weeks ago and went past the slipway by the Yachting club.     Has anything been done to the slipway as every time I went past it a few years ago it was covered in pebbles?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 08, 2020, 10:45:20 pm
Nice to see the Goats taking a pride in their appearance and keeping their social distance from each other

https://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/news/18568983.llandudnos-cheeky-wild-goats-first-line-trim-hairdressers-open/ (https://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/news/18568983.llandudnos-cheeky-wild-goats-first-line-trim-hairdressers-open/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 09, 2020, 08:30:37 am
I had a walk on the Promenade about two weeks ago and went past the slipway by the Yachting club.     Has anything been done to the slipway as every time I went past it a few years ago it was covered in pebbles?

Hugo, looking at your photograph it looks as if the height of the shingle either side of the new slipway is much lower than it once was.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on July 09, 2020, 10:02:15 am
I agree. I wonder if we're not seeing a kinetic effect. here. Under the action of the tides, gravity and weather, the pebbles will start to act a little like gravel, which can exhibit liquid-like behaviour. Thus, over time, the pebbles will shift and move to find their own level.

In a sense, piling the pebbles on a slope and expecting them to stay like that was optimistic, to say the least.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 09, 2020, 10:27:34 am
Thanks Bri & Ian.        When I went past the slipway I knew there was something different to the last time I went past.      I hadn't noticed the steps on both sides of the slipway before and that's possibly because the pebbles were up to the top and in parts over the slipway.
I did notice that the levels of pebbles on both sides of the slipway were equal so that confused me too
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on July 09, 2020, 02:51:13 pm
It's way past time that the quarry waist stone junk was removed from the Beach entirely. So much for the Coastal Forum.  $angry$ All talk and nothing gets done.  $angry$   $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 12, 2020, 02:48:35 pm
'I've never seen the prom look so bad' - Litter covers Llandudno seafront after easing of lockdown ref DP
Questions are being asked about whether Conwy council was properly prepared.

The promenade in a North Wales seaside resort was left strewn with "disgraceful" litter after visitors made the most of the relaxation of lockdown to visit the town.

As bins overflowed in Llandudno on Saturday evening, questions were asked about whether Conwy council was properly prepared for the return of visitors, while others called on tourists to "respect" the town.

The overflowing bins attracted seagulls looking for food waste left by visitors who'd returned to the town as lockdown restrictions are eased.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ive-never-seen-prom-look-18583938 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ive-never-seen-prom-look-18583938)

Richard Williams, 31, took it upon himself to clean up the mess along with another man.

"I was just riding along the promenade last night, and then I saw that the bins were overflowing and that the seagulls were making the situation a lot worse," said Mr Williams, who works in traffic management.

"I then realised every single bin was the same, and to be frank I've never seen the prom look so bad."
Mr Williams got speaking to another man and they decided to get bin bags to clear the rubbish.
"The rubbish was all over the place. We filled eight bin bags but it wasn't really our job to do.

"It's the council's job. Why hadn't a wagon come to empty all the bins? They knew the visitors were coming. I think it's very poor."
"I’m glad the tourists are back. The town needs the income but I wish they’d respect our town. Thank you lads. Whoever you are."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2020, 10:48:47 am
Noticed a lot of activity last night, on the Orme..........social media saying Concerns for veteran
Reports suggest that missing Steven Bruckshaw is a veteran, missing in the Llandudno area.

Great news!
North Wales Police #KeepWalesSafe

@NWPolice
Steven Bruckshaw has been found safe and well. Thank you for your assistance.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 20, 2020, 04:52:51 pm
A HUGELY popular event that last year attracted 19,000 spectators has been cancelled in response to Covid-19.

Llandudno Town Council has organised the annual fireworks display since its inception back in 1976.

Having worked with various partners and agencies, as well as consulted with health and safety experts, the town council said they have been left with 'no other option' but to cancel the event for 2020.

Cont   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18593949.disappointment-llandudnos-firework-display-2020-cancelled/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18593949.disappointment-llandudnos-firework-display-2020-cancelled/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 27, 2020, 09:42:04 am
The RNLI came to the rescue yesterday of paddle boarders clinging to the rocks near the Little Orme

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paddle-boarders-left-clinging-rocks-18666472 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paddle-boarders-left-clinging-rocks-18666472)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2020, 10:06:36 am
The morons are back


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/great-orme-set-fire-deliberately-18699530 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/great-orme-set-fire-deliberately-18699530)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2020, 02:50:00 pm
Anyone who has noticed that the area near the Welcome to Llandudno Sign at the top of Penrhyn Hill is untidy and overgrown, there is a reason, the council found rare orchids on the site, and are waiting until they have finished seeding.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2020, 04:22:36 pm
Tellytubby sent me an e-mail with a great photo of the storm over Llandudno last night, the photo was posted on facebook
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 13, 2020, 04:47:17 pm
Llandudno’s wild goats have become a global commercial hit since their cheeky antics at the height of lockdown were beamed around the world.

The herd of Kashmiri goats has become a valuable commodity after winning a legion of new celebrity fans such as US talk show host Ellen DeGeneres and Star Trek actor George Takei.

They were turned into global stars in a social media video campaign by motor manufacturer Jeep, and their presence in Llandudno’s empty streets helped raise more than £100,000 for the town’s St David’s Hospice, which brought out a range of goat-inspired T-shirts and cuddly toys.

Tourism chiefs in North Wales are now looking at ways Llandudno and the wider area can use the town’s new celebrities to lure more visitors.

Jeep’s USA media producers in Chicago became interested after local entrepreneur Paul Levy captured video of the brazen beast nibbling plants and hedges at Livetech, his web design and marketing agency at 16 Trinity Square.

The 52-year-old has since donated Jeep’s $1,000 video licensing fee to St David’s Hospice.
“We’ve had lots of different approaches from people and a few of them were trying to gain exclusivity on this,” said the father-of-five, who lives in Colwyn Bay.

Cont  plus more on how their Tshirt sales have raised over £100,000   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-giant-jeep-paid-1000-18762387 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-giant-jeep-paid-1000-18762387)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 13, 2020, 08:49:39 pm

Llandudno’s wild goats have become a global commercial hit since their cheeky antics at the height of lockdown were beamed around the world.

Cont  plus more on how their Tshirt sales have raised over £100,000   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-giant-jeep-paid-1000-18762387 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-giant-jeep-paid-1000-18762387)

Perhaps some of the money could be used to reimburse the people who's gardens are ravaged by the infurnal beasts every winter, because there is no suitable fodder left on the Orme, after the summer grazing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 14, 2020, 10:21:57 am
Blongb, not my favorite bit of local wildlife, being as my garden is on their favorites list  :(  but I have to admit, they have been a good advert for the town, below are the links for the Youtube videos

Llandudno Goats feature in Jeep USA and Worldwide Advert  ...................  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAy3pOD9HKQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAy3pOD9HKQ)



  Jeep® | Nature Returns                                                  ..................... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFRPNAYXxaw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFRPNAYXxaw)
14,592 views•22 May 2020
It happened in cities and towns all over the world this spring. While we were keeping our distance nature returned, to remind us that we’re in this together.
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 24, 2020, 08:53:47 pm
Am I alone in noticing the amount of noise that happens around a certain time each and every day that comes from either a motorbike or a car. Last night was ridiculous, sounded like gunfire going off and lasted for at least 5 minutes. It was so loud and so prolonged I started to wonder if indeed we had been picked as a soft target by terrorists.
Where were our local police when this was going on? No doubt enjoying whatever they have installed for their leisure purposes in the recently built police station that resembles a cinema from outside. You wouldn't actually want to go out on patrol when you have a gym and whatever on offer would you?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 25, 2020, 01:13:55 am
Am I alone in noticing the amount of noise that happens around a certain time each and every day that comes from either a motorbike or a car. Last night was ridiculous, sounded like gunfire going off and lasted for at least 5 minutes. It was so loud and so prolonged I started to wonder if indeed we had been picked as a soft target by terrorists.
Where were our local police when this was going on? No doubt enjoying whatever they have installed for their leisure purposes in the recently built police station that resembles a cinema from outside. You wouldn't actually want to go out on patrol when you have a gym and whatever on offer would you?

Dave, As Regards the police, their priorities and their effectiveness... you are closer to the truth than anyone would ever think possible.
From what I have seen at first hand recently, I honestly believe that they have become a waste of public money.
This is coming from a person who has had several, time served police officers in my own family.
The situation has become frightening.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 26, 2020, 11:41:21 am
Fester.... I have had several incidents that should have led to more active policing locally but it seems they just can't be bothered. Nowadays arresting someone is so time consuming as they have to transport them to St Asaph to the custody suite and fill in a multitude of documents so it's avoided at all if possible. The best way to do that is not to be present at anti-social behaviour incidents or responding to some crimes. It's no wonder we are losing respect for law enforcement. It used to be a complaint we had no police out on the beat by foot, nowadays you don't see them in cars very often and if you do it's likely they have popped out for a takeaway before returning to their leisure bunker.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 27, 2020, 01:39:16 am
Fester.... I have had several incidents that should have led to more active policing locally but it seems they just can't be bothered. Nowadays arresting someone is so time consuming as they have to transport them to St Asaph to the custody suite and fill in a multitude of documents so it's avoided at all if possible. The best way to do that is not to be present at anti-social behaviour incidents or responding to some crimes. It's no wonder we are losing respect for law enforcement. It used to be a complaint we had no police out on the beat by foot, nowadays you don't see them in cars very often and if you do it's likely they have popped out for a takeaway before returning to their leisure bunker.

Absolutely right Dave.
I used to fear and worry about a lawless society, but that’s pretty much what we have these days.
That’s no exaggeration when you look around you.
I’ve been pretty badly assaulted in the last year, and also had my car written off by a hit and run.
Both incidents were captured on CCTV.... supposedly...neither were ever looked into, never mind resolved.
It is what it is...






Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 27, 2020, 12:46:03 pm
Absolutely right Dave.
I used to fear and worry about a lawless society, but that’s pretty much what we have these days.
That’s no exaggeration when you look around you.
I’ve been pretty badly assaulted in the last year, and also had my car written off by a hit and run.
Both incidents were captured on CCTV.... supposedly...neither were ever looked into, never mind resolved.
It is what it is...

Sorry to read of your troubles Fester, "Walk softly and carry a big stick."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2020, 01:51:18 pm
Fester,  I'm so sorry to hear about that assault on you and hope that your physical injuries have healed,  it must have been very traumatic and the emotional reaction takes longer to heal.
Fortunately for me I haven't been assaulted but I've been the victim of a hit and run too but thankfully it was when my wife's car was parked in Morrison's car park when she was shopping there.
The woman in a red BMW drove into the next parking bay to my wife's car and hit it causing £300.00 plus damage and then immediately drove off.
It was witnessed by a man who ran to see the damage and wrote a note with the person's registration details on it, unfortunately the witness didn't leave his contact details
It was reported to the Police and they found the CCTV footage but said that they couldn't prosecute the person as the camera didn't show the actual impact.     I insisted on the Police taking paint scrapings from my car but then they said that forensic tests are only done in "serious"  accidents so Justice only comes at a price.
I then went for a private prosecution through my car insurance policy but ironically the woman was also insured with with them.  So I negotiated a settlement in my favour and left it like that.
I've now got dash cams on both my cars but hope that I never need to have to rely on them for evidence in the future
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 27, 2020, 11:40:49 pm
I was fine after a couple of days.
An angry tourist reached in through my car window and landed a few punches before I was able to defend myself.
I thought at first that my jaw might be broken, but after a couple of days the strange cracking noises stopped and it settled down.
An off duty copper witnessed it, and went to the Tram station to make sure they kept the CCTV footage.
He then came to my house, with the Tramway manager, and told me that they were taking it forward with the police.
A few days went by, the copper said he had filed his full report and the perpetrator from Liverpool had been identified.
That’s the last I heard, and nothing ever happened.
Ah well, such is life.
I’ve had worse hidings in my life, but I’m getting on a bit now, it takes longer for the bruises to go.  Ha ha.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 28, 2020, 11:01:15 am
That's not funny, though; there are some disturbed people around. Did it happen just out of the blue?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2020, 02:52:52 pm
That's not justice Fester and it shouldn't be acceptable.     That off duty Policeman was the perfect witness for you and it seems that he followed the correct procedure so why didn't the case progress
I'm sorry for what you have been through but I feel sorry for that Policeman too.    He's done everything by the book so that should be enough to get a prosecution but what I expect has happened is that either his Sgt or the CPS has put a stop to it.
The ordinary Bobby is operating with their hands tied behind their backs and it should be stopped to prevent the culprits getting away with criminal actions.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2020, 03:16:07 pm
Fester, Sorry to hear about your experiences, not one piece of good news in the whole thing, glad you are OK.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 28, 2020, 09:59:53 pm
I’m fine guys, I was fine within a few days.
It happened pretty much out of the blue, after an exchange of only a couple stray looks whilst stuck in traffic on the Orme.
The same thing happened when my car was badly damaged by another vehicle driving past during the night.
The cops visited my neighbour, took his CCTV, and correlated that with the Tramway CCTV.
I waited three months, until my insurance renewal.
After getting passed around various police departments, they told me they had dropped the case, and I should have been told two months ago.
This is why I have zero faith in anything the police do or say these days.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2020, 04:14:11 pm
I've got a lot of sympathy for you Fester and can understand your grievance about justice.        Some time ago an elderly lady was knocked down on a pedestrian crossing in the grounds of Llandudno Hospital and sustained a broken leg and as a result had to be admitted to hospital.  The driver got out of the car but then drove off immediately.
 The accident was reported in all the local papers and about a month later I phoned the Police just to see if they had caught anyone and the Police Officer asked me if I did it!
The hit and run driver was a grey haired woman in her 60's and was wearing a purple coloured Parka and driving a small purple car and all this was reported in the paper     With all the IT,  CCTV  etc at their disposal they should have been able to find the driver within days as the chances are that she was local and visiting someone in hospital

Having said all that you and the lady suffered physical and traumatic injuries but  I read in an article this week about a verbal row between two people over a parking dispute.    The Welsh lady told her English male neighbour to " go back where you came from you dirty immigrant"
Welshpool magistrates ordered the woman to pay £972.00   
All lives matter but people should be treated equally
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 30, 2020, 04:25:52 pm
Absolute gridlock outside at the moment and has been for over an hour. An elderly lady collapsed on the pavement just where Mr Waldron wants to put the entrance to his Pavilion development. Once the Ambulance drew-up there was only room for small cars to squeeze by and we very quickly ran out of them leaving the new breed of oversized monsters backed-up as far as the eye can see in both directions. The mass of walking visitors were a sight to behold as they threaded their way through the stationary traffic because the ambulance crew treating the casualty blocked the entire walkway. Now our Planners want to approve the Pavilion Development new entrance way! right in the middle of all this chaos. absolute madness You can still write in to object to the latest planning application changes and even if you don't the letters others have submitted are well worth a read.  https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Resident/Planning-Building-Control-and-Conservation/Planning-Applications/Planning-Explorer.aspx (https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Resident/Planning-Building-Control-and-Conservation/Planning-Applications/Planning-Explorer.aspx) click on Search for Planning Applications online, under  Search Criteria go down to site address and type in LL30 2LP. its on page one  under 0/47388 and 0/47389
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2020, 03:22:00 pm
Quite a few people got caught out by the Victoria centre car park timetable.     ))*         :-[                                     ref FB
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 31, 2020, 07:10:13 pm
10:30am–5:30pm
Victoria Centre Car Park, Sunday hours
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 31, 2020, 08:21:23 pm
Madness. The council is clueless when it comes to tourism. Private enterprise and the cabin lift and boat trips still running until 7.00pm, no doubt the summit cafe on the Orme shut early. The tram hasn't made an appearance at all of course.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 01, 2020, 02:09:02 am
Dave, yesterday I took a walk into town to treat myself to a breakfast.

It was a beautiful morning with plenty of visitors around at 9am.

Remember it was Bank Holiday Monday.

Unbelievably, there were cafes who serve breakfast that do not open until 9.30am with a couple of cafes that do not actually open until 10am.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 01, 2020, 11:31:30 am
 I was surprised they stopped the trams operating.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on September 01, 2020, 01:13:43 pm
I was surprised they stopped the trams operating.

Conwy CBC at its best !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: bigbadhenry on September 02, 2020, 07:14:12 am
The state of the rubbish bin outside the Law Courts Gawd !!! Looks like it's not been emptyed for weeks.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 02, 2020, 09:06:55 am
Report it

https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Resident/Report-Pay-Apply/Report-it/Report-it.aspx (https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Resident/Report-Pay-Apply/Report-it/Report-it.aspx)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 02, 2020, 12:23:34 pm
Yes Bri, we need to report things more often.    It may be that the authorities don't know about certain problems so we need to bring it to their attention.       $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on September 03, 2020, 01:03:48 am
Yes Bri, we need to report things more often.    It may be that the authorities don't know about certain problems so we need to bring it to their attention.       $good$

Just like I did Hugo, about the state of the North Shore Beach and still nothing has been done.  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 03, 2020, 11:12:38 pm
Car ends up wedged onto Llandudno toboggan run after rolling down hill


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-ends-up-wedged-onto-18875671 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-ends-up-wedged-onto-18875671)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 04, 2020, 10:11:43 am
Yes...I saw that yesterday.  Apparently, the female driver was still behind the wheel.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno and North Wales Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 16, 2020, 09:32:38 am
Parkour runners filmed on Great Orme ahead of new Snowdonia event
Participants will compete with each other in various challenges at different locations in North Wales.

Parkour runners have been filmed in Llandudno ahead of a new games event set to take place in Snowdonia.

The runners were filmed jumping from various parts of a walkway on the Great Orme as preparation for the three-day event.
The Aphetor Games is a new event that pits social media creators against each other.

The content creators will compete with each other in various challenges across different venues in Snowdonia, including Zip World in Penrhyn Quarry.

Covid-safe challenges overseen by independent health and safety experts include gravity kart racing, obstacle courses and a bar-hanging challenge above a reservoir.

more  ref DP  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/parkour-runners-filmed-great-orme-18940283 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/parkour-runners-filmed-great-orme-18940283)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno and North Wales Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on September 18, 2020, 10:24:44 am
Parkour runners filmed on Great Orme ahead of new Snowdonia event

The runners were filmed jumping from various parts of a walkway on the Great Orme as preparation for the three-day event.

more  ref DP  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/parkour-runners-filmed-great-orme-18940283 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/parkour-runners-filmed-great-orme-18940283)

IDIOTS !!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on September 18, 2020, 10:25:40 am
Surprised no-one's highlighted this (or have I missed the posting) ... Spitfire fly-past this afternoon:

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/thank-u-nhs-spitfire-fly-18942174 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/thank-u-nhs-spitfire-fly-18942174)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2020, 10:27:24 am
Steve's highlighted it. Will be worth seeing, too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 20, 2020, 10:14:05 am
FB photo ..................   &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2020, 10:44:56 am
North shore flood gates being closed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 02, 2020, 11:40:25 am
North shore flood gates being closed.

I'm very surprised at that Steve, after all that shouldn't be necessary now, after C.C.B.C. spent millions of pounds of rate payers money, putting over a hundred thousand tons of quarry waist onto the North Shore, to prevent flooding from happening and managing to destroy the beach in the process. Or am I becoming cynical in my old age?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2020, 11:56:36 am
North shore flood gates being closed.
I'm very surprised at that Steve, after all that shouldn't be necessary now, after C.C.B.C. spent millions of pounds of rate payers money, putting over a hundred thousand tons of quarry waist onto the North Shore, to prevent flooding from happening and managing to destroy the beach in the process. Or am I becoming cynical in my old age?

Well that make's two of us  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 02, 2020, 03:01:28 pm
Yes Blongb this bunch of clowns said them rocks were dumped there as a defence so as you say why do the require the gates 🤔 I worked on the pier early 70s the tides are no bigger now than what they were then, only the steps were the defence then.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 02, 2020, 03:14:16 pm
If the low pressure area is severe enough, the tide height can be increased substantially. Not saying it will be, but it could be.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 04, 2020, 12:39:14 pm
My wife came up with the answer to the problem of Llandudno flooding from increased sea levels at a meeting with our EU MP years ago. There was a 2 billion euro grant available for one project in North Wales and did anyone have a suggestion as to what it could be spent on. So being a local girl and business owner she suggested raising the promenade up by 2 meters, installing a thicker seawall and putting 2 layers of car parking down the full length from the Pier to the Little Orme. She even suggested that we could put public conveniences in every 100 meters or so. Nothing else was put forward and the grant money was never used. And instead we got 120,000 tons of quarry waist, paid for out of our rates, lost our beach and are still liable to flooding.

(What do you call 100 county councillors chained together at the bottom of Llandudno Bay?...........A very good start.)
Title: Re: Llandudno ...............Christmas parade XXX
Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2020, 05:02:23 pm
It's beginning to sink in that Xmas will be different this year..............

THIS year's Llandudno Christmas parade has been cancelled.                                                                      ref Pioneer

Llandudno Town Council has reluctantly taken the decision to cancel this year’s event.
The parade was earmarked for December 5.

Cllr Antony Bertola, chairman of the Christmas Parade Sub Committee, said: “During the last six months we have all felt the impact of Covid 19 and how it has affected all our lifestyles and routines. We have all had to re-adjust our way of living, working and socialising. Llandudno Town Council is no exception.

"We have proudly organized the annual Christmas parade over many successful years with great enthusiasm from the town council and indeed from the public to the acts involved who provide all the professional entertainment.
"We have always received great feedback from residents and indeed the tourists who visit our town.

"Sadly, this year with so many insurmountable health and safety issues and regulations the council has decided to cancel this year’s parade.

"Let’s hope this virus is beaten soon and we can all come together once again to enjoy community events.
Work will begin 'as soon as possible' to see if the parade can be organised for 2021.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 09, 2020, 03:18:24 pm
Anti-lockdown protest planned in Llandudno by group calling for end to local restrictions
Campaigners are fighting against restrictions imposed in Conwy county

An anti-lockdown protest is being planned to call for an end to local restrictions in Conwy county.

It comes after council leader Sam Rowlands urged First Minister Mark Drakeford to lift the ban on moving in and out of the area without reasonable excuse, claiming it was likely to be "catastrophic" for the local economy and the health and wellbeing of residents.

His call was supported by North Wales Tourism boss Jim Jones amid claims there is "no evidence" that the movement of people in the area has contributed to higher coronavirus case numbers.

Data published by Public Health Wales earlier this week showed that Conwy had the lowest percentage of positive covid cases out of the four North Wales areas currently in lockdown -  including Denbighshire, Wrexham and Flintshire.

The situation has sparked anger within the community and has led to a Facebook group called End Conwy County's Local Lockdown being set up.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/anti-lockdown-protest-planned-llandudno-19077189 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/anti-lockdown-protest-planned-llandudno-19077189)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 09, 2020, 06:16:36 pm
I bet that lot would also vote for Donald Trump if they could. I've been looking at the increase Covid figures for Conwy over the last two weeks with nothing short of dismay. Lock the whole place down please and keep us safe
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 09, 2020, 10:55:10 pm
Is it coming up to election time in Conwy or has Sam Rowlands been sponsored by Rowlands Chemists?
Rowlands Chemists are certain to make a huge profit if these crackpot ideas of this Tory are implemented

I'll just reiterate what I've posted on here before and that was when I was in Moelfre Anglesey recently and was sitting on a low wall well away from anyone.     A woman came and sat next to me, in fact shoulder to shoulder.    My wife moved quickly further away and i went with her.
I spoke to the woman who was from Stockport and told her about the two metre rule in Wales and she alleged that she was unaware of the Welsh rules, she also seemed to be unaware of the English rules too as Stockport was in lockdown!           &shake&

No one likes these rules but they are there for a purpose and we should abide by them, after all they are there to protect people and the NHS
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2020, 02:27:51 pm
I had a short walk down Mostyn Street from the HSPB to Boots and noticed that a number of the paving flags were wonky.     I don't suppose for one minute that Mostyn Estates Lts would be interested in paying for those flags to be relaid
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 23, 2020, 03:50:05 pm
Hugo the other side from Burtons corner to round the Carlton the paving has been done only from the pavement to the canopy so it looks nice until under the canopy, I don't know if it was just the council or if Mostyn est contributed. As you say the other side is a mess.     Oh I've been give lots of papers ref old families, names where they lived occupation etc, I think you would enjoy reading through them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2020, 04:39:17 pm
Norman,  you've been around long enough to know about Mostyn Estates.      &shake&

Mostyn Estates made it quite clear at the time that they would not contribute even though they own the freehold

Can you remember Edward Hiller making promises to pay for Victorian Street lights and also contribute to Victorian style shelters on the promenade?      That money never saw the light of day and remains in their fat coffers

Those papers sound interesting, keep them safe and when the Pandemic is over and if I'm still here then it would be nice to look at them.  I've been meaning to go to Llanengan for a number of years to see the area where our Taid's family came from but for various reasons haven't made that trip and the current situation doesn't help either.
Stay safe and well and keep taking the dog for walks on the West Shore

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on October 25, 2020, 11:33:05 am
Protest taking place on the Prom
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 25, 2020, 01:31:24 pm
Protest taking place on the Prom

More on the protest....

Hundreds of anti-lockdown protesters have gathered in Llandudno.

The peaceful crowd marched along the seaside resort's promenade and are gathering at the bandstand to hear speeches calling for restrictions, imposed to stop the spread of coronavirus, to be lifted.

The organisers called for people whose jobs, businesses, families or futures have been affected by the previous local lockdown, which was in force in four North Wales counties, including Conwy, to "make a stand and let your voice be heard".

It states: "The aim of this group is to gather enough people that feel the same way and are willing to try and make a change.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-hundreds-join-llandudno-anti-19162831 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-hundreds-join-llandudno-anti-19162831)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on October 25, 2020, 04:52:05 pm
I wonder how many will be tested positive in next couple of weeks.

Guess we'll never know.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 25, 2020, 05:00:01 pm
"The protest was originally organised before the 'fire-break' lockdown was announced when four of the six north Wales counties were under local lockdown.

It followed after council leader Sam Rowlands urged First Minister Mark Drakeford to lift the ban on moving in and out of the area without reasonable excuse, claiming it was likely to be "catastrophic" for the local economy and the health and well being of residents."

Perhaps these responsible organisers can arrange for a petition to be signed by the protesters calling for a ban on these so called muzzles and also refusing to use the NHS facilities if they develop any signs of Covid

Once the protest is over then perhaps the Police will stop acting like bystanders and do their job and fine Cllr Rowlands and all the other organisers the £10K  that they have fined other Covidiots
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on October 25, 2020, 06:41:00 pm
And I thought it was only American Republican Voters who had the monopoly on stupid, seems I was wrong. Careful foks they walk amongst us.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 26, 2020, 12:49:25 pm
Seems Corvid is about the only thing anyone talks about these days no matter where you look!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 26, 2020, 04:50:35 pm
According to Mattie Ginsberg one of the speakers at the protest rally,  "a second protest is being planned for November 7th"        &shake&

The Police apparently spoke to the organisers prior to the protest rally but it still went ahead and apparently no arrests were made.    Will the Police do anything if the second rally goes ahead as promised?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 26, 2020, 08:39:49 pm
So the organiser of this didn't even get up and speak, but this gimp from Bangor jumps on the bandwagon and a German gets up to speak, I bet they won't get anymore there.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 27, 2020, 09:50:56 am
Looks as though being infected once doesn't produce long-lasting immunity (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54696873), either.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 27, 2020, 10:06:59 am
Looks as though being infected once doesn't produce long-lasting immunity (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54696873), either.

I hope that those mainly middle aged protesters on the Prom on Sunday realise that there is no immunity to stupidity either         &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 27, 2020, 03:34:18 pm
Trouble is Hugo those idiots that organised the protest didn't have the bottle to stand up, a German and the idiot from Bangor spouted, they didn't get any support on FB.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on October 27, 2020, 03:52:15 pm
Studies have found that people start shedding the Covid-19 virus particles about two days before they start showing symptoms. There are people who never experience Covid-19 symptoms at all but still have it & shed the virus. These super spreaders circulate unknowingly infecting others, this is why wearing a mask is so important. It's unbelievable that these people who refuse to wear a mask call it tyranny to be forced to wear one, how callous & irresponsible they are. But one explanation by experts as to why they are possibly like this is, it can be a sign they have serious anti social personality disorder, enough said!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 27, 2020, 04:37:55 pm
Meleri. you could be correct about  it being a sign they have serious anti social personality disorders,    my initial thoughts were that they had been let out for the weekend.
The woman who had been taking selfies of herself previously, obviously doesn't understand why people are choosing to wear face masks and the guy seems to want to abolish everything bar the Covid
The only placard that made any sense whatsoever was the one the lady in a red coat carried " We are being lied to"       We have been lied to by Boris from the start, but we now have to work together and party politics shouldn't come into a thing as serious as this pandemic

Norman, that idiot from Bangor should have stayed in Bangor and how many more regulations do they need to break before the Police do something positive.      The Police have a difficult job to do but if the meeting goes ahead in November then the Police have no excuse other than to take enforcement action whether that is by way of fines or arrests and disperse any spectators
Good to hear that there was no support from FB
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 27, 2020, 06:44:22 pm
The woman in red is correct. But that's what conspiracy sites do...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2020, 12:59:55 pm
Quote
Hugos quote ´............I hope that those mainly middle aged protesters on the Prom on Sunday realise that there is no immunity to stupidity either 

Seven yesterday and 37 announced this morning...

There have been 37 newly-recorded coronavirus deaths in the past day, it has been announced.

Counsel general Jeremy Miles announced the figure during the Welsh Government coronavirus briefing on Wednesday ahead of Public Health Wales formally announcing the figure in the latest cases and deaths announcement at 2pm.

During the briefing Mr Miles said while 1,207 new Covid-19 cases had been confirmed and announced on Tuesday "this reflects positive tests; the real number will be much higher".   ref Walesonline
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 28, 2020, 02:30:40 pm
Yesterday when I had signed in to the forum I looked at the names of the members that were online and had to look at one twice.   The name was Yorkie and it made me think of the old Yorkie ( RIP )   Over the years he gave me a number of good tips and was very competitive  on the quizzes too.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2020, 03:10:27 pm
Yesterday when I had signed in to the forum I looked at the names of the members that were online and had to look at one twice.   The name was Yorkie and it made me think of the old Yorkie ( RIP )   Over the years he gave me a number of good tips and was very competitive  on the quizzes too.
I noticed that to, also White Rabbit, who I hope is safe and well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...Tudno Castle Hotel site.
Post by: SteveH on November 03, 2020, 11:57:43 am
A REVISED planning application will be drawn-up for the redevelopment of Llandudno's former Tudno Castle Hotel site.

Tudno Developments Ltd, a part of Opus Land (North) are behind the development plans.

In March 2018, planning permission was obtained for the hotels redevelopment into a 63-bed hotel, three restaurants, two retail units and a gym along with the recreation of the buildings listed façade.

Since then, the operator requirements have changed due to economic changes in the market. As a result, further changes are now required in order to provide a further 27 hotel rooms helping to further support the tourist industry in Llandudno.

The new development will comprise of a 90-bedroom hotel, one restaurant and three retail/restaurant units and a gym/business unit.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18842337.revised-planning-application-will-drawn-up-redevelopment-llandudnos-former-tudno-castle-hotel-site/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18842337.revised-planning-application-will-drawn-up-redevelopment-llandudnos-former-tudno-castle-hotel-site/)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 03, 2020, 01:04:24 pm
No surprises there then Steve,  but I have to admit that the building looks good and is a vast improvement on the old building that it replaced
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on November 04, 2020, 02:53:44 pm
No surprises there then Steve,  but I have to admit that the building looks good and is a vast improvement on the old building that it replaced

Which makes an absolute nonsense of Conwy Planners, insisting the Pier Pavilion design, had to be modern and could not mimic the design of the Grade II Listed Victorian Buildings, in a Conservation Area, that surround the sight. Why the Double Standard?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 04, 2020, 04:22:42 pm
I've recently watched a live screening of a controversial planning application and I'm speechless at the result and what little faith I had in the Planning Committee has now gone completely.
An absolute farce but it's not an amusing farce as the implications of their decision making will be with us for ever

They come down heavily on double glazed UPVC windows but allow an eyesore to be built in that same area and do not insist that the developer contributes to the affordable homes in lieu of not putting affordable homes on the site
In fact Waldron did not pay any contribution for his site at Glan Conwy and those houses were certainly not affordable.
What on earth is going on behind the scenes?

My fears are also for the two shores in Llandudno and the infamous building site at the former Penmorfa Hotel.   I dread to think of what Anwyl have in store for the town and may try to take advantage of the CCBC's inconsistencies       &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 04, 2020, 06:25:29 pm
Garth Court Flats ???????? How ever that was passed I don't know.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on November 05, 2020, 03:00:41 pm
Garth Court Flats? How ever that was passed I don't know.

Built in the 60's before there were any planning restrictions in place Nem, after Butlins sold off the Grand Hotels Car Park, which you used to access via Water Lane off Old Road.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 05, 2020, 05:22:43 pm
Butlins have a lot to answer for !It really stands out like a sore thumb !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 07, 2020, 09:48:37 am
Police warning ahead of second North Wales lockdown protest planned for today.         The Police must enforce the protest this time and fine the organisers accordingly

.     

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-warning-ahead-second-north-19236501 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-warning-ahead-second-north-19236501)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 07, 2020, 01:48:23 pm
Police warning ahead of second North Wales lockdown protest planned for today.         The Police must enforce the protest this time and fine the organisers accordingly
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-warning-ahead-second-north-19236501 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-warning-ahead-second-north-19236501)

Rumour/FB.........The organiser arrested at 11,30 am re breach of conditions ? believed previously arrested for breaking essential item ban in shop, but protest still happening.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on November 13, 2020, 07:01:32 pm
We ventured down to the sea today for the first time for ages. Good to see it all looking so lovely.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2020, 10:02:15 am
If only all Llandudno gulls were as well trained......   ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 15, 2020, 12:22:55 pm
The sea was a bit choppy today at the West Shore
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 21, 2020, 01:10:46 pm
Llandudno ..
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 26, 2020, 10:23:56 am
Michelle Keegan poses for fans as Brassic filming continues in North Wales
The Our Girl and ex Coronation Street star even delayed filming in Llandudno to say hello

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/tv/coronation-streets-michelle-keegan-poses-19347614 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/tv/coronation-streets-michelle-keegan-poses-19347614)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 28, 2020, 03:12:43 pm
GOAT ALERT !!!

There are at least 3 in St George's church grounds.

Hope everyone can keep them out of their properties !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...Heavy police and ambulance presence
Post by: SteveH on November 29, 2020, 01:35:29 pm
LIVE: Llandduno promenade shut amid heavy police and ambulance presence
There is said to be a large number of emergency services personnel in the area


A spokesperson for North Wales Police confirmed that a body was discovered at the scene earlier this morning.

No further details are available at this time.

Investigations are on going and we will bring you any updates as we have them.  (We're told that emergency services have now left the scene.)

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-llandduno-promenade-shut-amid-19367201 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-llandduno-promenade-shut-amid-19367201)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 30, 2020, 10:03:24 am
Police issue update on body found on Llandudno seafront after man is identified                            ref Pioneer

The man was from outside of North Wales.
North Wales Police have confirmed this afternoon: "Police received reports of a body that was found on the beach in Llandudno around 10.30am this morning.

"The body has been identified as a man in his 70s from outside of North Wales. There are no suspicious circumstances and the next of kin have been informed."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 09, 2020, 02:38:59 pm
North Wales Police confirmed that a man's body was discovered on the beach at Llandudno on Wednesday morning.

His death is being treated as unexplained.

A police spokesman said: "We were called at 8.40am today, December 9, to reports of a body of a man being found on the beach near to Craigside, Llandudno.              ref DP
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 10, 2020, 01:29:44 pm
Update.......ref DP

Police are asking for help to identify the body of a man who was found on a North Wales beach.

The body was discovered on a beach near Craigside, Llandudno at around 8.40am yesterday.

Police have launched an investigation and the man’s death is being treated as unexplained
DS Rob Mahoney, of North Wales Police, said: “Following the sad discovery of a man’s body on the beach at Llandudno, his identity remains unknown
“He is a white male believed to be in his 40’s and is about 5’7” tall.

“I’m appealing for witnesses who may have seen anyone acting in an unusual manner in the area Tuesday evening to Wednesday morning, or anyone who has concerns for the whereabouts of a man matching this description, to call 101 or use the live webchat quoting ref Y179910.”
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 13, 2020, 10:58:04 am
North Wales town has highest rate of drink and drug driving convictions in UK, survey reveals

If I remember correctly Llandudno had the same headlines last year and those statistics were based on the convictions at the Llandudno Magistrates Court.       The offenders could have come from anywhere in the Counties of Conwy,  Gwynedd and Denbighshire so it not a fair reflection on the town of Llandudno.



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-town-highest-rate-19439948 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-town-highest-rate-19439948)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 20, 2020, 10:16:56 am
Social media chat said the town was very busy last night, some shops staying open till midnight, and queues for Asda all along the main road, and a lot of comments saying they where thinking of going to Chester ! !  ............  anybody see anything ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 20, 2020, 11:36:41 am
queues for Asda all along the main road, and a lot of comments saying they where thinking of going to Chester ! !  ............  anybody see anything ?

Don't those people who make those intelligent comments realise that it is the likes of them that are spreading the virus?        Perhaps a stop by the North Wales Police may make it a more expensive shopping trip
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 20, 2020, 05:43:48 pm
Just an add on to my last post:-

Q          Can I travel to see people at Christmas?

     Travel is not permitted in, out or around Wales unless it is essential - except on Christmas Day - so for things like education, childcare, providing care or work when you cannot work from home.

Why can't people follow a simple instruction?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 21, 2020, 11:19:40 am
I suspect it's because the instructions aren't as simple as they should be. The single-person exception is a good example; the Welsh gov. page of instructions reveal this quite starkly:

"You should only be outside of your home for very limited reasons, which include:

    the need to obtain supplies and services for you or your household, for example food, medicine, and essential household maintenance. We encourage everyone to make this as infrequently as possible
    to exercise, alone or with members of your household or support bubble. We encourage this to be done locally.
    to access childcare and education
    to access medical services
    to access public services
    to deposit and withdraw money from a bank or similar establishment
    to provide care for or to help a vulnerable person; this includes getting food or medicines for them
    to help the NHS by donating blood
    for work purposes, or voluntary or charitable purposes, but only where it is not reasonably practicable to do this from home
    to visit a cemetery, burial ground or garden of remembrance to pay your respects
    to attend a place of worship
    to attend a wedding, civil partnership or funeral if you are invited
    to attend court or meet other legal obligations, or to vote
    to escape a risk of illness or injury, such as for victims or people at risk of domestic abuse
    to access services provided to victims of crime or domestic abuse or those at imminent risk of becoming victims

Whenever you leave home, you should try to minimise time spent outside of the home, and ensure you stay at least 2 metres away from anyone you don’t live with or are in a permitted support bubble with.

Can I form an extended household?

No, you cannot form an extended household at alert level 4. The only exception to this is if you are an adult living alone or are in a household with a single responsible adult, you can form a support bubble with one other household.

For more information on what is meant by a single responsible adult, please see our guidance on seeing people in private homes. (https://gov.wales/visiting-people-private-homes-alert-level-4)"

There are roughly fifty 'exceptions' to the rules, and without those exceptions society would stop functioning. But while I'm not  defending the irresponsible selfish and thoughtless, I can see why some are having difficulties in following the regulations.

Having said that, I see that France has now stopped aircraft, shipping and the Channel Tunnel from operating. I think Elvis had it right (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KK6sMo8NBY).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: PhilMick on December 21, 2020, 01:43:07 pm
Ian - could you post the link for this. We are interested in the exception for the cemetery. Thanks
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 21, 2020, 03:34:50 pm
The entire document is here (https://gov.wales/alert-level-4), Phil
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 23, 2020, 11:08:31 am
Wizz Air,  has that anything to do with you Norman08 ?        ;D

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/wizz-air-announces-new-routes-19510478 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/wizz-air-announces-new-routes-19510478)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2020, 01:10:45 pm
If I see anywhere else how 'cute' people think these b****dy goats are I 'd like them to come and clear up the mess I have just dealt with. Somehow they must have got in, we have a fence with spikes, a heavy closed gate and stone walls. The whole place was littered with stinking droppings and half chewed branches. Grrrrrr.........I know this isn't much compared to the world situation, but really it is time that there was some control over them.        Rant over !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 26, 2020, 02:41:56 pm
I drove down to the West Shore today and it was cold there with a 40/50 mph south west wind blowing,    It was nice seeing quite a few people walking about  and I even saw four people in the water going for a Boxing Day swim.
It was too cold for me to get out of the car and probably too cold for those Goats too as I couldn't see any about.

Perhaps they had gone back to Nemesis place for lunch!        &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 26, 2020, 06:03:51 pm
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 27, 2020, 10:01:44 am
The most iconic moments of 2020 from the Harwich Standard ! Llandudno goats are mentioned, sorry Nem

2020 has been a year like no other and for many of us it is one we will want to put behind us.

The year has been full of highs and lows with incredible scientific breakthroughs and human connection being reimagined.

We've taken a look back at some of the most iconic moments of the year:

https://www.harwichandmanningtreestandard.co.uk/news/18968874.iconic-moments-2020/?ref=rss (https://www.harwichandmanningtreestandard.co.uk/news/18968874.iconic-moments-2020/?ref=rss)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?............Victorian Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on January 20, 2021, 10:34:27 am
I think this is wishful thinking, even with a perfect vaccine roll out, the recovery is going to be a long process.

Committee hope to host Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza in 2021 if restrictions allow  ref Pioneer

EARLY preparations are being made ahead of the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza, in the hope it can go ahead.

The committee said they are "fully prepared" to proceed with the event if government restrictions allow.

A statement on Facebook read: "We have been getting lots of messages asking if the 2021 Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza will be going ahead. The committee are fully prepared to proceed with the event if the climate allows the government to lift restrictions on events such as ours.

"We are fully aware many of you will be wanting to book travel and accommodation based on our decision and hopefully we will have a clearer picture by the end of February.

"We will keep you posted on any relevant information please bear with us and thank you for your support."

The event, which was established more than 30 years ago and normally takes place on the first May bank holiday weekend each year, was cancelled in 2020 due to the pandemic.

The festival celebrates Llandudno’s Victorian heritage, bringing a display of traditional entertainment, parades and exhibits to the town.

The event usually see thousands of people descend on the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 23, 2021, 11:31:51 am
Work to transform empty part of Llandudno station into 'one stop shop' gets started
Transport for Wales and the Welsh Government are behind the renovation project

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/work-transform-empty-part-llandudno-19639737 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/work-transform-empty-part-llandudno-19639737)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 23, 2021, 11:44:07 am
I've just had a look at the West Shore web cam and the weather there looks awful and only one car parked in that car park,
It has started snowing again in Colwyn Heights and my neighbour has already cleared his drive twice.   I'm not bothering to clear my drive yet as I am staying put and won't be going anywhere today
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 23, 2021, 05:33:35 pm
It bucked up later down there Infact it felt quite warm, few youngsters even had a dip 😂😂, I said was that good through chattering teeth yes 😅☃❄️
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? Acting the goat ! !
Post by: SteveH on January 24, 2021, 11:48:18 am
A guesthouse owner had a shock when an uninvited visitor arrived in the middle of the night.

Tracey Zbinden was asleep at Belle Vue House Holiday Apartments in Llandudno when she heard strange noises outside her bedroom at 2am.

As the North Parade accommodation is closed during lockdown, she suspected an intruder was creeping up the stairs.

Instead she came face to face with a goggle-eyed goat looking for something tasty to munch.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-goats-took-over-town-19665818 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-goats-took-over-town-19665818)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 26, 2021, 05:19:31 pm
A WHISKY distillery and visitor centre in Llandudno has launched its recruitment process.

As the renovation of the Old Board School building on Lloyd Street enters its final stages, Penderyn are now recruiting for the first of several posts created by the development.

Penderyn were granted planning permission in August 2020 to restore and convert the former school into a distillery and visitor centre.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19040030.penderyn-now-recruiting-llandudno-distillery-visitor-centre-nears-completion/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19040030.penderyn-now-recruiting-llandudno-distillery-visitor-centre-nears-completion/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 27, 2021, 12:34:31 pm
Police descend on Llandudno town centre after reports of masked man with 'knife'
A video showing a masked man being ordered to the ground has been shared on social media



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-descend-llandudno-town-centre-19706766 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-descend-llandudno-town-centre-19706766)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 31, 2021, 09:49:00 am
Eerie scenes in Llandudno.........

Photos   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/eerie-scenes-in-llandudno-19709485 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/eerie-scenes-in-llandudno-19709485)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 08, 2021, 03:04:45 pm
This site would be best used for car parking, absolutely ideal position........

 Developers who said there was no business use demand on “bomb site” land in Llandudno have put in plans for five commercial units.

Councillors deferred a planning decision on a residential scheme from Warrington-based Lane End Developments, who were working with social landlord Clwyd  Alyn, in December.

The scheme was deferred by councillors at the Conwy county council planning meeting and eventually withdrawn by the company.
The applicant said at the time there was no business use demand for the land.

Now the company’s submission is for five business units between 20-40m deep, 4-6.5m high and 9-13.5m in length.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19073823.llandudno-bomb-site-apartment-development-withdrawn/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19073823.llandudno-bomb-site-apartment-development-withdrawn/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 08, 2021, 08:33:06 pm
I thought that a planning application for affordable housing on this site had been passed some time ago, so what has changed?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 10, 2021, 03:22:14 pm
llandudno couple transform fairground bumper car into a mobility scooter
The 1973 dodgem has been converted in hope of raising money for charity

Video https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-couple-transform-fairground-19805634 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-couple-transform-fairground-19805634)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 11, 2021, 02:36:14 pm
I thought that a planning application for affordable housing on this site had been passed some time ago, so what has changed?

Talk on FB ........... the original plan for flats changed to commercial units, now changed back to flats, and that has been passed, sorry it is just chat without verification at the moment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on February 11, 2021, 04:22:35 pm
I have just had a look on CCBC Planning Portal & the first application 0/47284 went in 24/4/2020 for 89 dwellings which consisted of 33 houses & 56 apartments. That went to the Planning Committee in December 2020. A senior Planning Officer advised as the site was allocated for B1 employment on the Local Development Plan in 2013, the onus was on the applicant to demonstrate that there was no demand for that. So the Planning Committee deferred a decision to enable the applicant time to provide the details.

Then that application was withdrawn & another was registered 5/2/2021 No 0/48144 this time for 77 dwellings a reduction of 12. They have put in a considerable amount of expensive surveys such as reptile/bats/biodiversity habitat etc & 3 pages of plans for planting amongst other things, so they must think they are in with a chance spending all that money.

It's difficult to get a good outcome when the Planning Officers (not Committee) are against an application & one mentioned at the meeting if the land isn't to go for B1 use it could be used for a green space which is lacking in Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 11, 2021, 04:27:02 pm
Many thanks for that, I was hoping you would see the post.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 11, 2021, 04:46:08 pm
I didn't read the article in much detail but there was a mention of possible contamination on the site,  but that didn't seem to affect the planning for Ysgol John Bright which was built on the site of a rubbish dump and Gas Works.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 18, 2021, 10:32:49 am
The old Bryant and Hocknel site development nearing completion.

Cartrefi Conwy are currently developing exciting new affordable homes on Gloddaeth Street, Llandudno alongside Creating Enterprise and Brenig Construction, centrally located in a desirable area of Llandudno.

This £1.75 development has seen the demolition of the vacant Bryant and Hocknell building in 2019 which many will remember was previously a furniture shop for many years, and redevelopment of this modern exciting build, delivering 16 brand new 2 bed apartments utilising timber framed panel construction which is fast and sustainable.

Making great use of space, these 2 bed properties are ideal for young families starting out or couples looking to save up for a deposit to get on the property ladder. The development is also ideally located with a short walk into the centre of town, beach and railway station all at your doorstep.

Some features of the apartments will be energy efficient lighting throughout, modern kitchen and bathrooms, carpets and blinds with allocated parking for tenants outside the property.

These will be intermediate rent properties, meaning  they are typically 20% less than the market rate. You can find more information on the Intermediate scheme below and the rent for these properties will be £500pcm.

cont  https://cartreficonwy.org/find-a-home/future-developments/gloddaeth-street/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 20, 2021, 11:40:54 am
WILD goats whose cheeky antics (  $hands$) on Llandudno’s deserted streets during lockdown attracted global attention are being immortalised in a stunning new work of art.

The boundary wall around the town's Tre Cwm estate is to be given a colourful makeover, after planning permission was granted for an eye-catching new mural to be placed on it.

The artwork captures many of the things most associated with Llandudno, including the Kashmiri goats who became known around the world after heading into the town centre en masse last year and munching on whatever took their fancy.

The mural will be seen by thousands of motorists every day as they enter Llandudno from Deganwy, potentially serving a similar role to the distinctive 'Welcome to Llandudno' sign that greets visitors arriving via Penrhyn Bay.

Artist Kevin Stonehouse, 65, who has lived on the estate for most of his life, has depicted the goats in their more familiar surroundings of the Great Orme.

They are accompanied on the artwork by Alice in Wonderland and other familiar sights like town's promenade, ski slope and tramway.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19105414.new-artwork-feature-llandudnos-kashmiri-goats-alice-wonderland-ski-slope-tramway/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19105414.new-artwork-feature-llandudnos-kashmiri-goats-alice-wonderland-ski-slope-tramway/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 03, 2021, 06:38:56 pm
Llandudno goats invade Primark car park as the lockdown busters hunt for bargain
The lords of the Great Orme seem to be in need of some retail therapy before the human competition returns

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-goats-invade-primark-car-19956168 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-goats-invade-primark-car-19956168)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 04, 2021, 10:17:20 am
And up early this morning for breakfast at the St. Georges......... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19134927.cheeky-mountain-goats-head-st-georges-hotel-llandudno-breakfast/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19134927.cheeky-mountain-goats-head-st-georges-hotel-llandudno-breakfast/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on March 05, 2021, 12:29:08 pm
And up early this morning for breakfast at the St. Georges......... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19134927.cheeky-mountain-goats-head-st-georges-hotel-llandudno-breakfast/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19134927.cheeky-mountain-goats-head-st-georges-hotel-llandudno-breakfast/)

This is the ongoing direct result of CCBC's failure to act as responsible custodian's of the Cashmere Goats. It's obvious that in the Winter there is insufficient fodder on the Orme to support the heard but no supplementary feed is supplied. As a result each evening Gardens all over Gogarth are plundered by the beasts. If they were in the care of a private owner the RSPCA would have had them in Court a long time ago for Neglect and Animal Cruelty.  $angry$ 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on March 05, 2021, 01:04:44 pm
About 20 of the goats were wandering around Craig Y Don this morning, not far from Blind Veterans:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 05, 2021, 03:29:32 pm
And up early this morning for breakfast at the St. Georges......... https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19134927.cheeky-mountain-goats-head-st-georges-hotel-llandudno-breakfast/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19134927.cheeky-mountain-goats-head-st-georges-hotel-llandudno-breakfast/)

This is the ongoing direct result of CCBC's failure to act as responsible custodian's of the Cashmere Goats. It's obvious that in the Winter there is insufficient fodder on the Orme to support the heard but no supplementary feed is supplied. As a result each evening Gardens all over Gogarth are plundered by the beasts. If they were in the care of a private owner the RSPCA would have had them in Court a long time ago for Neglect and Animal Cruelty. 

Agreed, however "they (the town herd) don't come down each evening" their home base is now around the convent/Gogarth area, they no longer go back up the Orme, and as Dave's photo shows they are spreading their territory and the herd is getting bigger,  there has been a couple of FB reports of two car accidents involving the goats resulting in injury, to most they are a cute distraction, however after putting up with  the constant damage and smell left behind the cuteness wears off, as for animal neglect, more FB reports of injured/limping goats causing concern, not forgetting no contraceptive measures for two years, I appreciate this years difficulties, but the problem cannot be ignored for the animals sake.


I believe Bristol are going to re-home a few after covid restrictions are lifted, and I think more needs to be done along these lines.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Quiggs on March 05, 2021, 09:25:13 pm
Some of the goats I saw recently had their bones prominent, they looked to be starving.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2021, 09:51:56 am
At last...........a sensible post about the goats! The damage, smell and mess can be indescribable. anyone, apart from an odd one that seems to think they are wonderful, who lives in the area that Steve has described can verify what it is like to get up in the morning and find yet another damaged wall and decimated plants, let alone the task of sweeping away the excrement.
As an animal lover I can see the attraction, novelty and 'cuteness', but think of the poor goats, speeding drivers don't care, they just carry on like lunatics. More and more will become injured and CCBC, Mostyns and whoever else don't seem to care. It is time some fodder was placed for them back on the Orme. These are not domestic animals and need to be encouraged to go back where they are safe.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on March 06, 2021, 08:55:44 pm
It's time to beef up security.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 18, 2021, 09:37:40 am
NEW bins are being installed across Conwy county.                  ref Pioneer
A total of 140 bins will be upgraded.

The new bins have a 360 litre capacity, compared to the standard 180 litre for most of the older bins, and allow for easier emptying.

Older bins on Mostyn Street in Llandudno and the prom have already been replaced.

It is hoped the waste containers will help reduce the risk of litter overflowing or falling out and are ready for when the tourism sector is unlocked and visitors are able to return.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on March 18, 2021, 10:29:58 am
All very well having bigger bins and it's a benefit if they can be emptied easier too but it won't make that much difference to the litter on our streets and public places.
Hidden cameras and punitive fines are the answer in my opinion. The amount of fast food junk dropped out of cars is frightening, hide some cameras along the A470 , around Marine Drive, our parking spots and then you might deter those who have no regard for our countryside and find no use for bins.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....More goat stories ! !
Post by: SteveH on March 20, 2021, 09:59:52 am
Welsh seaside town of Llandudno invaded by goats causing chaos - but most love(D) them
 Who you gonna call...? Goatbusters! Llandudno in Wales is under siege by brazen Kashmiri goats who descended in lockdown and show no signs of moving - and locals are beginning to tire of the silly billies...

Full story and photos   https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/llandudno-under-siege-goats-cause-23761795?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/llandudno-under-siege-goats-cause-23761795?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: paulsh1 on March 31, 2021, 12:13:06 pm
Yes! Noticed they have been testing the tram out!

First time I've seen it move in over a year!

Looking promising!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 01, 2021, 10:12:43 am
A HSBC branch will temporarily close as work is carried out to turn it into a counterless service.

The international bank said its Llandudno branch will be fitted with self-service machines and staff members will be in store to provide advice on how to use them.

It forms part of the HSBC restructure to set up Digital Service Banks, which provide traditional banking transactions using self-service technology.

The change is expected to be made on July 5 with the branch due to close for one week after that date whilst work is carried out. Customers will be given four weeks' notice ahead of the closure.

cont   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19200974.hsbc-llandudno-next-bank-branch-affected-shift-towards-online-banking/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19200974.hsbc-llandudno-next-bank-branch-affected-shift-towards-online-banking/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on April 01, 2021, 03:45:38 pm
It does not seem very long ago, it was set up like it is now?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 08, 2021, 10:05:00 am
 ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 08, 2021, 10:31:24 am
They would have done in my garden this morning, my 2 small Acers and all the roses are now without leaves. Cute? not bl###y likely.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 08, 2021, 12:47:08 pm
Yesterday our puppy Teddy had been a naughty boy in the garden but when Mrs H came back from shopping she had bought him a Yak's milk chew so we gave it him so that we could have a quiet life
He absolutely loved the chew and took it out into our back garden to enjoy but when we called him in to the house he came in without the chew and just as we were going out to retrieve it we were beaten to it by a large Seagull that swooped down and flew off with it
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 08, 2021, 03:23:36 pm
Our daughter has 2 huge dogs, one of which is a Caucasian mountain dog which weighs 9 stones. She buys 'natural ' treats for them mail order. If you are interested I could ask her for the details-- that is if you fancy various animal parts !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 12, 2021, 12:25:47 pm
Thanks very much for your kind offer Nemesis, it's really appreciated.    At the moment though I'll see how he gets on with the Yak chews and other treats we have for him as he's hyper enough as it is and I wouldn't like him to get any worse if we alter his diet a bit.
Today I'm putting up a higher fence as he can get over the one in the photo and hope that my effort works.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 12, 2021, 01:56:00 pm
Thanks very much for your kind offer Nemesis, it's really appreciated.    At the moment though I'll see how he gets on with the Yak chews and other treats we have for him as he's hyper enough as it is and I wouldn't like him to get any worse if we alter his diet a bit.
Today I'm putting up a higher fence as he can get over the one in the photo and hope that my effort works.
Hugo, You are reminding me of the 70's I treated myself to two Irish Setters, beautiful dogs, but not the easiest  to train, I got a call from my neighbouring farm, telling me to collect my dogs (puppies), who were having fun chasing his chickens  :-[  I spent a day repairing and blocking any gaps, they got out again, so I bought 4ft mesh fencing, and spent a very cold and wet weekend erecting it, only to have them take one look and jump over it, while I stood watching them  so anyway .....one fence contractor with 6ft chain link and cemented posts later and minus £600 (in the 70s  :( ouch) all was well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 12, 2021, 04:16:20 pm
Wow Steve and I thought that I had it bad!        £600 was a lot of money in those days, I was offered a cottage in 1970 for just a bit more than that, but that's another story
Perhaps these photos taken yesterday may remind you of those times
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 12, 2021, 04:33:18 pm
Hugo, It was a large area, and as we were close to the A5, very necessary, your photo's today, are a different dog story, when we moved in there, our German Shepherd, raised alarm bells, by the way it was looking at the sheep, so after some enquirers, I found  a retired police dog trainer in the valley, who had him for a week, no further problems, who said having pets, was all fun and games  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 12, 2021, 04:55:21 pm
You did the right thing getting in a dog handler because of the consequences that could happen with livestock.   We are getting a dog handler in on Friday so we should see some improvement with our dog afterwards
Years ago we knew a Police Dog handler in the local area  who also had kennels but never had to use him to train our other dogs as they were very placid
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 12, 2021, 06:09:17 pm
Good luck with that Hugo.....hope it works !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 18, 2021, 03:09:21 pm
The dog handler  is now coming on Thursday instead due to unforeseen circumstances.     It can't come quick enough and I've spend the morning putting more fences up!        &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 18, 2021, 03:10:09 pm
North Wales town forecast to be UK's second most 'over-crowded' place this summer
Analysis of Google searches has highlighted the tourism destinations that have been receiving the most interest from staycationers



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-town-forecast-uks-20411787 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-town-forecast-uks-20411787)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 18, 2021, 03:14:26 pm
Bucket of sand from North Wales beach for sale on eBay in Germany - and this is the asking price
Bidding starts from €9.99 or the sand can be bought for €16.79
The reason this sand is priced so high is because of its rarity.   It's from the North Shore beach      ;D




https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bucket-sand-north-wales-beach-20402021 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bucket-sand-north-wales-beach-20402021)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 21, 2021, 09:59:37 am
Residents say new North Wales housing scheme could change a traffic 'nightmare' into 'mayhem'
It comes as 49 properties have been proposed by Anwyl Homes

A resident living near a proposed housing scheme on Bodafon Fields in Llandudno said it could change a traffic "nightmare" to "mayhem" in its current form.

Locals were informed about the scheme being proposed by Anwyl Homes off Nant y Gamar Road in the town's Craig y Don area this month.

It would comprise 49 properties ranging from one to five beds and 35% are to be affordable homes, in line with planning guidance.

The site stands next to Ysgol y Gogarth school which will have 255 pupils from September and already produces a lot of traffic said resident Ruby Williams, who lives on Nant y Gamar Road - and also on the same road as Bodafon Farm Park.

The location has been the subject of protests against housing in the past but a public inquiry ruled it can be used for new homes and is classified as a "housing contingency site" in the current Local Development Plan (LDP).

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/residents-say-new-north-wales-20430407 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/residents-say-new-north-wales-20430407)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 22, 2021, 01:29:39 pm
That's an interesting partnership of Batman and Robin B.        Perhaps CCBC  can have a word with Anwyl Construction ( aka Batman ) and just remind them that they also have a building site at Penmorfa that has been waiting about 14 years for work to commence on the site

Robin B  ( aka  Mostyn Estates )  have been after planning applications on the farm many times in the past and if this application is passed then be prepared for further applications on the remaining farmland.    Mostyn Estates have no interest in retaining the farmland and just want their greedy mitts on the cash that they will gain from the sale of the land
 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Helig on April 22, 2021, 02:20:09 pm
I am sorry to hear that they are building on Bodafon Fields. This was such a lovely green area that gave some rural appearance to Llandudno which has seen so much development. I hope the town doesn't finish up being wall to wall concrete. The property speculators will be rubbing their hands with glee. According to the paper, Llandudno is a property hotspot.

Helig
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Robbie G on April 22, 2021, 04:57:56 pm
One suspects wall to wall brown envelopes I would thing
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...Fire crews prevent 'disaster'
Post by: SteveH on April 27, 2021, 04:14:04 pm
Fire crews prevent 'disaster' as blaze hits businesses and people forced to flee homes
Businesses and homes were impacted and a HSBC branch will now be closed 'for the foreseeable future'

Businesses have been left counting the cost of damage caused by a huge overnight fire which forced people to flee their homes.

Emergency services were scrambled to a courtyard behind shops on the junction of Lloyd Street and Mostyn Street in Llandudno in the early hours of Tuesday as a fire took hold.

The blaze caused significant damage to a gas pipe, electricity supply and air conditioning units as it took hold in the shared courtyard behind the Ham Bone deli, HSBC and Kitchen 50 Six.

HSBC has now said that their branch had suffered "significant damage" in the fire, and would remain closed for the foreseeable future.

As the fire took hold, people living in properties above the fire were evacuated from their homes as firefighters worked to bring the blaze under control.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-crews-prevent-disaster-blaze-20475402 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-crews-prevent-disaster-blaze-20475402)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 28, 2021, 09:44:24 am
Llandudno's indie shop boom sparks retail revival as economy emerges from lockdown
New openings and expansions in the town centre shows the faith in the future of Llandudno as a shopping and leisure destination


In the Victoria centre .....Gear Menswear, Little Lily & Co baby and kids clothing, gift and accessories shop Murshi, Meanwhile Devon based family surfwear brand Saltrock  is fitting out the former H Samuel unit and is due to open this week with Prom Ally having moved from there to a permanent home on Madoc Street.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-indie-shop-boom-sparks-20479995?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-indie-shop-boom-sparks-20479995?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.......HSBC pop up bank
Post by: SteveH on April 29, 2021, 12:30:22 pm
A BANK has set up a pop-up branch at Llandudno Town Hall after a fire forced it to close "for the foreseeable future".

HSBC said it has arranged with Llandudno Town Council to work from the hall while repairs are carried out at its Mostyn Street branch following a blaze that caused "significant damage" in the early hours of Tuesday, April 27.

The pop-up branch, which opened on Thursday, April 29, will provide limited in-store services but customers will not be able to withdraw cash. In the meantime, customers are being advised to carry out cash withdrawals at the Post Office on Mostyn Street or at the HSBC branch in Colwyn Bay.

Dyfrig Roberts, HSBC local director, said the pop-up store will be kept under review and will be assessed according to customer demand.

He said: “We are extremely grateful to the emergency services for the rapid action they took yesterday morning which undoubtedly stopped the damage to our and surrounding properties being much worse. That said, the damage that has been sustained to our branch is significant, and we will not be able to open the branch until repairs can be completed. This is being arranged as a matter of urgency, although the work itself may take some weeks to complete.

"We know that access to cash is important, so arrangements are in place for HSBC UK customers to be able to carry out day-to-day banking transactions at the Post Office on Mostyn Street, which is a one minute walk away. In addition to this, customers can use mobile or internet banking, telephone banking. If a customer does need to visit a branch, Colwyn Bay is around six miles away and open from 10am to 2pm.

"We appreciate that some of our customers may want and need to discuss certain matters with us face-to-face and we feel it is important for us to continue to be present in Llandudno to help our customers at this time. We have worked quickly with Cyngor Tref Llandudno Town Council to find a solution."

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19267190.hsbc-sets-pop-up-branch-llandudno-town-hall-high-street-fire/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19267190.hsbc-sets-pop-up-branch-llandudno-town-hall-high-street-fire/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 30, 2021, 10:27:44 am
DOZENS of cars costing less than £500 will hit the road from Llandudno to Torquay in a banger rally later this year.

The Veterans Banger Rally 2021 has been organised by former Navy anti-submarine John McGowan, from Prestatyn, who has attracted attention with the hearse limousine he has refurbished with a Men in Black theme.

The original plan to drive 1,500 miles to Gibraltar was halted due to fears over a third wave of Covid-19 in Europe so they have instead decided to stage the long-distance rally on home turf in September.

It will see more than 300 people in 70 teams drive from Staffordshire to Llandudno, down to Torquay, across to Skegness, on up to Newcastle, over to Blackpool before finishing in Runcorn.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19268655.hearse-limo-turns-sci-fi-cop-car/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19268655.hearse-limo-turns-sci-fi-cop-car/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 01, 2021, 10:29:01 am
Interesting story on the Penderyn whisky company, opening soon in Llandudno..........

The whisky novice who made Penderyn one of Wales' best-known brands turning over £15m
Former steel and logistics exec Stephen Davies has what must be one of the best jobs in Wales with a role at the helm of one of the nation's best-loved exports

Stephen Davies was working in the Netherlands as part of a global logistics business when he got a call from a former boss telling him he should visit a tin shed in a tiny village at the top of the Cynon valley.

The shed was home to a fledgling business called Penderyn Whisky Company – a distillery tucked away producing just a few barrels of the Welsh spirit that year but one with much bigger dreams.

"They were looking for someone to run the business and get it off the ground," said Stephen. It was 2003 and the Penderyn brand had been launched but they had no customers.

So how did a man with 20 years working in the steel and logistics industry wind up as someone in charge of a shed full of copper stills and one of the most iconic Welsh brands?

As Stephen admits himself he knew nothing about whisky apart from having developed a taste for the "elegant" spirit as a younger man. But what he did know was how to get stuff done.

cont  https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/penderyn-whisky-wales-stephen-davies-20440268?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/penderyn-whisky-wales-stephen-davies-20440268?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 04, 2021, 11:08:39 am
Hearing various rumours.......................

1.  That there are flats being built on part of Maelgwyn Road, Car Park   ?

2.  That the new flats on the Brynt hocknell site, have been allocated car parking spaces on this car park.  ?






Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on May 04, 2021, 02:45:57 pm
Regarding the old Bryant & Hocknell site the original application for the development had 6 parking spaces a shortfall of 17 spaces. So the developer Brenig Construction had to pay an S106 to CCBC an obligation of £58,140 (17 shortfall spaces X £114 X 30 years). This money goes towards provision, improvements & maintenance of public car parks & on street parking in the locality. They have recently had to put in a variation of the planning approval as they have to move the bin store & in doing this have lost another two parking spaces. One space has been allocated on Deganwy Avenue so another £3,420 has to be paid. This variation application for moving the bin store has been refused. The Traffic & Network Manager has again pointed out the shortfall of parking spaces as there is 32 bedrooms but only 4 parking spaces on this last variation application, so it isn't clear as to where all these people are going to park. As for building more flats on Maelgwyn Road there doesn't appear to be an application on the Planning Portal at the moment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 04, 2021, 03:07:10 pm
Meleri, many thanks, I was hoping you would have some reliable information.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on May 04, 2021, 04:40:56 pm
I believe that the Town Council are meeting to discuss the new scheme tomorrow
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on May 04, 2021, 05:36:28 pm
As far as I have been told by one of the residents, there aren't sufficient parking spaces at Court Gloddaeth, the McCarthy and Stone block opposite for the number of flats, so this situation occurs there as well.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 11, 2021, 08:47:18 am
Arrest warrant issued for Llandudno anti-lockdown protester
Matthew Ginsberg, 42, of Bethel near Caernarfon, Gwynedd, failed to turn up in court.       He has obviously got mental health issues but that doesn't excuse him for his behaviour during the pandemic, but Cllr Sam Rowlands was no better when he was going to arrange a peaceful demonstration around the same time.


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/arrest-warrant-issued-llandudno-anti-20565539 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/arrest-warrant-issued-llandudno-anti-20565539)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 13, 2021, 09:51:27 am
HSBC to reopen Llandudno branch as repair work following fire is completed                          ref Pioneer

HSBC said it will reopen the branch on Mostyn Street from Thursday, May 13 following the incident which caused “significant damage” to pipes and cables in the building.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 15, 2021, 10:18:47 am
Llandudno nightclub boss wants car showroom on grounds - but it's not gone down well
Broadway Boulevard owner says will help with extra income after being shut for a year but others questioned the 'quality of offering'

 "speaks volumes for the expected quality of offering" and would be "more akin to that delivered further east along the coast" than in Llandudno."    :o

cont   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-nightclub-boss-wants-car-20602746?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-nightclub-boss-wants-car-20602746?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 24, 2021, 10:42:58 am
Regarding the old Bryant & Hocknell site the original application for the development had 6 parking spaces a shortfall of 17 spaces. So the developer Brenig Construction had to pay an S106 to CCBC an obligation of £58,140 (17 shortfall spaces X £114 X 30 years). This money goes towards provision, improvements & maintenance of public car parks & on street parking in the locality. They have recently had to put in a variation of the planning approval as they have to move the bin store & in doing this have lost another two parking spaces. One space has been allocated on Deganwy Avenue so another £3,420 has to be paid. This variation application for moving the bin store has been refused. The Traffic & Network Manager has again pointed out the shortfall of parking spaces as there is 32 bedrooms but only 4 parking spaces on this last variation application, so it isn't clear as to where all these people are going to park. As for building more flats on Maelgwyn Road there doesn't appear to be an application on the Planning Portal at the moment.

A section in the recent article https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19312775.qc-calls-llandudnos-pier-pavilion-decision-unlawful/on (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19312775.qc-calls-llandudnos-pier-pavilion-decision-unlawful/on) the Pier redevelopment thread, raises my original query, "That there are flats being built on part of Maelgwyn Road, Car Park " also hearing of a petition to stop the building of these flats ?   

 "Also the council had been informed the landowner of a nearby council car park had decided to terminate the lease to the authority next year, further causing parking problems for staff and customers using the proposed restaurant at the development."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 25, 2021, 04:23:47 pm
I went into Llandudno today to do some shopping and the place was heaving with tourists.    It will be good for the town but it was a bit of a shock after isolating for so long.
With the predicted warm weather coming for the forthcoming Bank Holiday I'll stay well clear of the shops.
I have noticed more people in shops not wearing masks so I hope that all the good work done by the NHS is not undone by people not following the rules that are still in place
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 26, 2021, 10:30:07 am
Update on the above "Maelgwyn Road, Car Park" posts.. this will definitely impact an already over stretched off road parking situation,
please sign the petition if you feel Llandudno cannot afford the loss of these spaces.

"Conwy County Borough Council currently lease the Maelgwyn Road Car Park in Llandudno.  The lease is due to be expire during 2022 and the landowner has indicated that they would like the council to vacate the car park so McCarthy Stone can construct 55 retirement flats, with 21 private car parking spaces, on the existing car park.  The development would result in 126 public car parking spaces being lost from Llandudno town centre. 

The council's Environment, Roads and Facilities department are resisting the development.  If you have strong views on the development, please complete e-petition below - details from petition will be shared with Conwy County Borough Council and may be shared with McCarthy Stone as well as the owners of the car park."


Maelgwyn Road Car Park Petition at   https://www.harrysaville.org.uk/maelgwyn-road-car-park-petition (https://www.harrysaville.org.uk/maelgwyn-road-car-park-petition)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on May 26, 2021, 11:42:20 am
As an aside, the potential number of spaces at Maelgwyn Road is about the same as those on the underused car park at the railway station.  Funny Conwy don't seem to sign that one on the approaches.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 26, 2021, 12:19:01 pm
Who is the owner of the car park, is it Mostyn Estates?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on May 26, 2021, 01:54:37 pm
As far as I know Hugo, Mostyn own the Maelgwyn Road one, the Council own the one opposite and Network Rail the one alongside the station.  The station one could be extended further towards the signal box if there was demand.

I recall Mostyn applied for planning for residential (12 flats) in 2002 and permission was granted in 2003.  App 0/26323.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?..sea defence scheme
Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2021, 09:48:57 am
Decision time for controversial Llandudno sea defence scheme
The decision to dump thousand of tons of stone on the sand at North Shore sparked an outcry - now two entirely different schemes are being considered

Since then a coastal forum, including councillors, council officers and interested members of the public, has been prevaricating over what to do next - as it's estimated sea levels could rise by between 0.89-1.21m over the next 100 years.

As a result of those deliberations councillors are being asked to choose between two entirely different schemes for North Shore, in a bid to access some of the £150m on offer from Welsh Government as part of its Coastal Risk Management Programme.

The preferred - and cheapest - option for officers is to continue with the status quo of a cobble bank but increase the height of the promenade wall at a total cost of around £6.7m. This would include periodic maintenance of West Shore's defences.

The second option, to remove the cobbles, replace sand and manage erosion by the use of timber groynes would cost almost £24m according to officers.

If the bid to get the work done in Llandudno was successful 85% of the scheme costs would be refunded by Welsh Government, leaving Conwy county council with a bill of either £1m or £3.6m to be met from capital budgets.

A public event in 2019 found locals "strongly requested CCBC pursued the option at North Shore to replace the existing coastal defence mechanism protecting the revetment (cobble) with sand and control structures".

Cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/decision-time-controversial-llandudno-sea-20683528?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/decision-time-controversial-llandudno-sea-20683528?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 27, 2021, 10:07:16 am
Shame the idiots didn't maintain the groynes we would still have a lovely sandy beach, instead they dumped Quarry rocks at great expense, they even dredged the sand from the first line of defence for colwyn bay.     
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 28, 2021, 10:12:17 am
It's not rocket science but shouldn't the sea defence project have been discussed before dumpimg any quarry waste on the North Shore.   It's a bit late after the event when the options are restricted accordingly

I've read some of the suggestions put forward about the North and West Shore beaches and they are just unbelievably stupid.     I just hope that the suggestion of raising the West Shore sea wall by a few inches is put back in the rubbish bin.
Since that wall was build around 1952,  to the best of my knowledge and belief it has never been breached.    Not by the water anyway but by the sand caused by the work done in 1993.

They should remove the quarry waste from the North Shore and the imported sand from the West Shore and do the job properly this time

Will they do it?   don't forget that it's the CCBC after all                    &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on May 28, 2021, 10:30:13 am
Also reinstall the Groynes on the North Shore.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 28, 2021, 12:54:30 pm
Also reinstall the Groynes on the North Shore.

And the West Shore too. and remove the stone groynes there.      A stone breakwater  is needed there now but not attached to the shore   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 28, 2021, 08:19:12 pm
Hugo we all know the problem with the sand started when the put them two Boulder groynes there, as you say why didn't/ don't they put a barrier out further, as we know when the groynes were on both beaches no problem, since the roads flooded in the 30s extra wall has been built, maybe if they cleared All the sand from the grass area by the pool area that road wall would be much higher.    One option they could think of move all that rock out further out by the both ormes as a breakwater.  They say the water levels are rising and yet they dredged the sand for colwyn bay from the constable bank, yes our first line of defence. Duh.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 29, 2021, 11:05:02 am
LLANDUDNO has appointed its youngest mayor in history after being sworn in at the Town Hall.

Harry Saville, who took on the role and regalia on Friday, May 21, said he will aim to find practical ways that Llandudno Town Council can support the community as it emerges from the Covid-19 lockdown.

Cllr Saville, who represents Gogarth ward on the town council and Conwy County Borough Council, has worked in the tourism sector and volunteers on the Ffestiniog and Welsh Highland Railways.

He was born in Crewe and grew up near Altrincham before moving to Llandudno in 2002. He has family connections to Llandudno extending over three generations, and was educated at Rydal Penrhos Secondary School followed by Coleg Llandrillo.

He then studied for a degree at Aberystwyth University, followed by a Graduate Diploma in Law completed at Chester Law School.

Cllr Saville was first elected to represent the Gogarth ward on Llandudno Town Council in 2017, having also been elected to represent the same ward on Conwy County Borough Council in a by-election in December 2015.

The mayor said he will also aim to enhance public spaces for the benefit of local residents, with one example being Llandudno Town Council’s commitment to boost its funding for playground maintenance.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 31, 2021, 10:25:16 am
Busy day for Llandudno, hopefully not a busy few weeks for the NHS ?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 03, 2021, 09:37:30 am
I believe that there was a meeting yesterday about the proposed Llandudno sea defence.      Has anyone heard what the outcome of the meeting was?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 03, 2021, 10:36:05 am
I believe that there was a meeting yesterday about the proposed Llandudno sea defence.      Has anyone heard what the outcome of the meeting was?

Hearing FB rumours,

A section from pier to Vaughan St, remove stones replace sand and groynes ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 03, 2021, 11:14:12 am
Thanks Steve,  I don't do FB so I didn't see that post.    No news about the West Shore project then?

So we are returning to the Status Quo.     Dumping the quarry waste and then removing it to show what we had before, how much money has the CCBC wasted on this?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 03, 2021, 11:22:58 am
Thanks Steve,  I don't do FB so I didn't see that post.    No news about the West Shore project then?

So we are returning to the Status Quo.     Dumping the quarry waste and then removing it to show what we had before, how much money has the CCBC wasted on this?

Not sure, we will have to wait for the full report  :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 03, 2021, 01:22:55 pm
Yes Hugo councillors at the meeting voted 13 for sand & groynes 1 abstained, why not have the guts to vote one way or other, now it has to go to cabinet, , not one of cabinet are from Llandudno 🤔  We await with interest, all them millions wasted on them rocks when us locals new all along wooden groynes & sand done the job perfect.  😡😡
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on June 03, 2021, 03:39:32 pm
I thought Greg Robbins, Louise Emery and Chris Cater were CCBC members for Llandudno wards and they are in the cabinet.  Unless something has changed of course.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 03, 2021, 03:56:01 pm
DP piece on the story..

Llandudno granted sandy beach for sea defence scheme
A Conwy Council committee has opted to replace stone with sand on the town's North Shore, though the decision still needs rubber stamping

"Improvements are needed as the resort’s sea levels are estimated to rise by between 0.89-1.21m over the next 100 years.

Council officers preferred a cheaper, £6.7m option of maintaining a cobble bank whilst increasing the height of the promenade wall at a total cost of around

The second option, backed by the public, was to remove the cobbles, replace sand and manage erosion by using timber groynes.

This will cost almost £23.9m, though the council can apply for a share of £150m on offer from the Welsh Government as part of its Coastal Risk Management Programme.

As well as providing greater flexibility, the “sand option” is likely to attract more people to the beach, according to the coastal forum.

On the downside, beach sand will need frequent and costly topping up, and wind-blown sand may affect nearby properties and roads.

Moreover, the rear promenade wall will still need to be raised within 50 years to prevent possible sea flooding.2

Full article  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-granted-sandy-beach-sea-20732513 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-granted-sandy-beach-sea-20732513)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on June 03, 2021, 08:16:15 pm
Yes you are correct Cambrian they are, but they are not locals, maybe if they were they would have listened, mind you it was a very few that made that costly bad decision to dump Quarry rocks on the beach, I will keep saying it, Why did they dredge the sand for colwyn bay from Llandudnos first line of defence the constable bank.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 03, 2021, 09:16:31 pm
This is a colossal problem, and, unlike climate change, the answers are far from clear cut.  The projected sea level rise is just that: projected. It might not happen at all. There's a huge amount we still don't understand about tides and oceans so planning for the long term - i.e. fifty - seventy years, is an exercise in futility.

Some things are clear, however. Llandudno needs a sandy shore. The prevailing winds  blow from the South West, so blown sand, lying predominately below the prom levels, is unlikely to cause much of an issue in the town. A higher beach composed of sand will mitigate many of the worst effects of rare high tides and storms. Yes - it will need topping up, much as they have to do with Miami's beach now. But this would be great training for the navy and the Royal Engineers.

It would take half a million tons approx. to  bring the sandy beach up to the level of the prom right up to the pier entrance but the returns would be incalculable.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 04, 2021, 12:48:48 pm
The air ambulance has landed on the Llandudno Promenade as medics attend an ongoing incident.

The Caernarfon-based helicopter landed beside the beach at around 10.50am on Friday, with police blocking part of the promenade to allow for the landing.

The nature of the incident has not yet been disclosed.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-lands-llandudno-20740693 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-lands-llandudno-20740693)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 09, 2021, 10:06:17 am
Why there won't be sand on Llandudno beach again 'any time very soon', according to council boss

"We will not be putting sand on the beach any time very soon because we need to develop the plan but also find that very significant amount of money.

"There's a lot of work, persuasion, to be done before we go putting sand on the beach, which I agree would be a fabulous thing for Llandudno."

The big obstacle now is to produce plans and a business case so Conwy county council can bid for a chunk of the £150m Coastal Risk Management Programme funding on offer from Welsh Government.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/wont-sand-llandudno-beach-again-20769778?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/wont-sand-llandudno-beach-again-20769778?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on June 09, 2021, 11:05:34 am
I seem to remember that transportation of all the rocks on lorries caused Maesdu bridge to be closed for quite a time due to it being weakened by the weight.I only hope that CCBC remember this if they do decide to shift them all.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?..aerobatic display
Post by: SteveH on June 21, 2021, 04:14:17 pm
We have just been treated to a 10 minute aerobatic display over West shore, not doubt FB will have pictures, I saw a drone up filming, We think it was a marriage proposal, lots of hearts written in the sky.                       
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?..aerobatic display
Post by: SteveH on June 22, 2021, 10:10:35 am
We have just been treated to a 10 minute aerobatic display over West shore, not doubt FB will have pictures, I saw a drone up filming, We think it was a marriage proposal, lots of hearts written in the sky.                     

Apparently the display was celebrating a birthday, two FB photos below ............. the FB "you know you are from Llandudno " thread has a video.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 22, 2021, 03:46:14 pm
If you were wondering why a stunt plane put on an amazing aerial display over Llandudno's West Shore yesterday, this might help explain.

Devoted husband John Droog organised the display as an unusual gift for his wife Susan's birthday.

At about 5pm, the red and white aircraft began sweeping across the sky towards the Great Orme, and climbing steeply before falling earthward, the display continued for five or six minutes then the pilot flew away towards North Shore.

The aircraft came from the Bedfordshire-based Mark Jefferies Air Shows. It's made up of team leader Mark, Chris Burkett, Steve Carver and Cris Heames.

Together, they form the Global Stars aerobatic team, according to their website.
They fly a state of the art aircraft called an Extra 330S
Pilot Mark Jefferies, 62, was the pilot said: "It was birthday gift and a gift to the town as well! Mrs Droog phoned me afterwards to thank me."

Describing yesterday's flight, Mr Jefferies, who has previously flown over the Wirral, said he flew over the shore of Llandudno and Deganwy at between 500ft and 1,900ft.

“The plane seemed to appear out of nowhere and started thundering over Maesdu Golf Club and North Wales Golf Club, its engine roaring.

"It made quite a few passes along the shore. It also climbed almost vertically, and dropped down, several times. It was ‘heart in the mouth’ stuff!”

photos and video   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stunt-pilot-helps-devoted-husband-20869745 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stunt-pilot-helps-devoted-husband-20869745)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 24, 2021, 09:53:12 am
A controversial plan to build 49 residential units on green land next to a school for children with special needs has been submitted.

The Anwyl development on Bodafon Fields off Nant y Gamar Road, Llandudno, has faced fierce opposition from local residents over what they claim will be the effect on traffic in the area.

A public meeting has been hosted by Aberconwy MS Janet Finch-Saunders and a petition has gained more than 340 signatories.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/llandudno/19395315.controversial-llandudno-housing-development-plans-lodged/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/llandudno/19395315.controversial-llandudno-housing-development-plans-lodged/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 25, 2021, 02:02:08 pm
REPAIR work is set to be carried out at The Cenotaph in Llandudno.

Conwy County Borough Council will carry out repointing and fence repairs at the memorial on Prince Edward Square over the summer.

The work will be completed ahead of commemorations to mark the 100th anniversary of the Royal British Legion (RBL) this year.

Residents and schools that have laid hand-painted stones at the foot of the memorial are being urged to collect them before the end of July, any remaining stones will be moved to the former Llandudno RBL office on Vaughan Street.

“We wanted to let people know the stones will be moved as if we took away without notice there could be uproar and rightfully so,” said Llandudno RBL secretary Alan Guinn.

“They will be on view at the old Llandudno RBL office where meetings are held.

“The stones will be kept there and every year we will now be moving stones from the memorial in July to look after the memorial.”

Other plans to mark the 100th anniversary of the RBL include a slate memorial and a flower display beneath the Miss Alice clock at North Shore.                                          ref Pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 02, 2021, 10:22:38 am
Update on the above "Maelgwyn Road, Car Park" posts.. this will definitely impact an already over stretched off road parking situation,
please sign the petition if you feel Llandudno cannot afford the loss of these spaces.

"Conwy County Borough Council currently lease the Maelgwyn Road Car Park in Llandudno.  The lease is due to be expire during 2022 and the landowner has indicated that they would like the council to vacate the car park so McCarthy Stone can construct 55 retirement flats, with 21 private car parking spaces, on the existing car park.  The development would result in 126 public car parking spaces being lost from Llandudno town centre. 

The council's Environment, Roads and Facilities department are resisting the development.  If you have strong views on the development, please complete e-petition below - details from petition will be shared with Conwy County Borough Council and may be shared with McCarthy Stone as well as the owners of the car park."


Maelgwyn Road Car Park Petition at   https://www.harrysaville.org.uk/maelgwyn-road-car-park-petition (https://www.harrysaville.org.uk/maelgwyn-road-car-park-petition)

Update..... McCarthy and Stone sending out leaflets re their proposed plans for Maelgwyn st car park..........looks like 4 stories high and not a lot of room left for parking, and the flats at the end, are dwarfed by this plan.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on July 02, 2021, 10:47:46 am
What a horrible monstrosity, if this council approve that it has to be looked into, wonder when the carpark on the other side has to go on that lease, why have this council let the lease run down like this should have renewed it 2/3 years ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 02, 2021, 12:12:17 pm
Link to the above mentioned virtual exhibition, click on yellow marks for details 

https://mccarthyandstoneconsultation.co.uk/llandudno/virtual-exhibition/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 03, 2021, 04:08:57 pm
I have been reading some FB comments on McCarthy and Stones first building, Cwrt Gloddaeth, that they are like rabbit hutches, (I remember speaking to someone in Bryant and Hocknels furniture store telling me that they were having trouble getting furniture into the building, let alone the flats,) apart from the flats being tiny, there is a lack of parking, (50 flats/ 20 spaces ? ? ) and they are lease hold, and I believe this is going to be the case with the Maelgwyn development ?

new photo ..............
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 03, 2021, 04:25:06 pm
Most apartments are leasehold Steve but I wonder who will own the freehold.       Will it be McCarthy and Stone or Mostyn Estates?

Application for building 49 properties on Bodafon Fields is the next thing of importance that is coming up.      If it is passed and I hope that it isn't who will be the freeholder?
Mostyn Estates currently own the freehold but Anwyl Construction will be the developer.   Will the houses be sold freehold or not is the question?
Surely in this day and age the feudal system operated by Mostyn Estates should be stopped as it has no place in the modern world.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 06, 2021, 03:38:02 pm
Update on above.....

A DEVELOPER and manager of retirement communities is hoping to build homes on a car park in Llandudno.

McCarthyStone has acquired an interest in land at Maelgwyn Road car park and are in the early stages of working up proposals for the site's redevelopment.

Initial proposals include retirement living accommodation for private sale as well as rent and part rent-part buy.
A community consultation ends on July 8 and a virtual exhibition has been launched.

55apartments  "We will be providing car parking for the use of future residents and guests. There will be 21 spaces within landscaped parking courtyards."   &shake&

full story  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19423401.plans-build-55-retirement-apartments-llandudnos-maelgwyn-road-car-park/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19423401.plans-build-55-retirement-apartments-llandudnos-maelgwyn-road-car-park/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 07, 2021, 10:08:14 am
Residents adjacent to a controversial 49-home development have distributed a picture which they say highlights the “traffic mayhem” to come if it goes ahead.

Local activist Ruby Williams, a member of the Nant-y-Gamar group opposed to Anwyl’s scheme in Llandudno, said she wants the photo included as evidence from local residents when the site comes before Conwy county council’s planning committee.

Residents of Nant-y-Gamar Road have said they already live in a “traffic nightmare” and fear the 49-home estate being proposed for Bodafon Fields would turn the area’s roads into “mayhem”.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19425031.reality-traffic-issues-near-proposed-49-home-development-proposed-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19425031.reality-traffic-issues-near-proposed-49-home-development-proposed-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 07, 2021, 02:37:02 pm
Has the application actually been submitted to CCBC as I cannot find the application in the search I made?


Cllr Bradfield urged residents to write to the planning department at Conwy county council quoting the planning reference 0/48610.
I tried that ref but there was no trace on the CCBC Planning website

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 07, 2021, 02:55:12 pm
Has the application actually been submitted to CCBC as I cannot find the application in the search I made?
Cllr Bradfield urged residents to write to the planning department at Conwy county council quoting the planning reference 0/48610.
I tried that ref but there was no trace on the CCBC Planning website

I only have the original link on the Pioneer story............ https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/llandudno/19395315.controversial-llandudno-housing-development-plans-lodged/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/llandudno/19395315.controversial-llandudno-housing-development-plans-lodged/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on July 07, 2021, 04:43:05 pm
I have just checked on the Planning portal & it's the right application number 0/48610 Hugo, Try putting in Nant y Gamar Road, Llandudno in the site address with no application number. There are quite a lot of objection letters & rightly so.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 07, 2021, 06:47:42 pm
Thanks very much Meleri,  I had tried both the application number and the address before but nothing happened.     This time however I saw the application straight away and there are a lot of valid objections there.
I can tell you that Mostyn Estates have been planning this for a while and they are testing the water for any future developments

No surprises from Anwyl though and it's time that the CCBC looked after local people and especially the younger ones.   One potentially controversial  factor for this proposed development, will the houses be freehold or leasehold?

If you hear of any whispers about Anwyl and the Penmorfa Hotel saga would you mind posting them on her.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 08, 2021, 09:58:51 am
PLANS to bring sand back to Llandudno's North Shore beach will begin by next March, government officials confirm.

The scheme, which will cost around £24m according to private consultants, would see stones removed from the town’s beach area after seven years in place. Instead, sand and wooden groynes would be reintroduced as a way to break up waves as a flood defence.

It is estimated the council’s portion of the final bill for the work will be around £3.6m after helped from Welsh Government.

As well as acting to protect homes and businesses from future flood risks, councillors have said this could help boost post-Covid tourism for the coastal town.

In a previous Pioneer report, Deganwy’s cllr Julie Fallon said: “It’s a no-brainer for me that it’s going to improve tourism.

“I look forward to when I can sit on the beach with my kids and think ‘we helped to make this happen’.”

In June, Iwan Davies, CEO of Conwy county council, warned members “we will not be putting sand on the beach any time very soon” after the cabinet backed Llandudno’s new sea defence scheme.

cont   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19425116.work-bring-sandy-beach-back-llandudno-start-march-2022/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19425116.work-bring-sandy-beach-back-llandudno-start-march-2022/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 13, 2021, 09:52:17 am
I do not see why financial compensation makes up for the lack of parking ?

An amended scheme to convert a former pub into 20 apartments should be refused, planning officers say, until an agreement is reached on how much compensation is paid for a lack of parking.

Conwy County council's planning committee will discuss the altered planning application for the former Nevill pub on Augusta Street at Wednesday's planning meeting.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plan-convert-former-llandudno-pub-21032929 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plan-convert-former-llandudno-pub-21032929)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 15, 2021, 11:26:23 am
Everyone should be cremated and thrown in the sea' says councillor in Llandudno cemetery debate
Andrew Hinchliff made the astonishing intervention during a council planning committee hearing on a bid to extend the Llanrhos site by 1,600 burial plots

CHARMING!         &shake&


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everyone-should-cremated-thrown-sea-21054786 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everyone-should-cremated-thrown-sea-21054786)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on July 15, 2021, 02:10:21 pm
This article regarding Cllr Hinchliff has been taken completely out of context. For the sake of sensationalism Jez Hemmings Reporter, as per usual, presenting a story in a way that intended to provoke public interest at the expense of a persons reputation. I commend Cllr Hinchliff for his suggestion of perhaps making the new area in to a lawned cemetery area with no upright headstones, as it would be better visually in a designated special landscaped, green wedge area. Cllr Hinchliff stated his comment was his opinion & aren't we all entitled to an opinion? Mr Hemmings would be better concentrating on interesting articles regarding the shortage of land in the area for building decent affordable homes for our young people & the generations to come. On a personal note I will be cremated when it's my time & would love for my ashes to be scattered in Conwy estuary.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on July 15, 2021, 02:34:46 pm
Everyone should be cremated and thrown in the sea' says councillor in Llandudno cemetery debate
Andrew Hinchliff made the astonishing intervention during a council planning committee hearing on a bid to extend the Llanrhos site by 1,600 burial plots

CHARMING!         &shake&


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everyone-should-cremated-thrown-sea-21054786 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everyone-should-cremated-thrown-sea-21054786)

Agreed Hugo--how insensitive can you get?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 15, 2021, 03:48:41 pm
I can fully understand what you are saying Meleri about it being taken completely out of context and it's a similar thing to what Boris Johnson was alleged to have said when he said that he "would rather see bodies pile up than order another lockdown."
However it's not the type of language you would expect from a Councillor and certainly not from a PM.   They are quite rightly entitled to an opinion but they should be tactful and not leave themselves vulnerable to reporters.

As for affordable housing and especially for local people who have lived in the area all their life then I think that there is no chance of ever seeing that happen again.    I'm afraid that someday Llandudno Junction, Degany, Llanrhos and Llandudno will merge into one built up area and the new houses will be four and five bedroomed detached houses with nothing available for the young local people




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 17, 2021, 10:20:56 am
The three-word slogan that might save your life if you get into trouble off the coast of Llandudno
Hands. Face. Space. may be a familiar phrase associated with the pandemic, but it's also being used on the what3words location app

t's been linked to a location just off the coast of Llandudno and could even be the three words that one day might save your life.

The what3words location app has divided the planet into 57 trillion 3m x 3m squares, with each pinpointed location identified by its own own three-word codename.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/three-word-slogan-might-save-20945901?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/three-word-slogan-might-save-20945901?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2021, 09:57:17 am
WOW............what a write up.

11 lessons Llandudno can teach the rest of Wales about seaside tourism
Despite the challenges of successive lockdowns, long-term confidence remains in the 'Queen of Welsh resort's' economic prospects

On a recent visit to Llandudno, an Aberystwyth councillor was “amazed” to see the difference between the two seaside towns.

Cllr Mair Benjamin marveled at Llandudno’s pristine promenade, floral displays, independent shops and wide open streets.

In a letter to fellow members of Aberystwyth Town Council, she called on them to arrange a study visit to Llandudno to see if lessons can be learned.

Below, North Wales Live has saved Ms Benjamin the trouble by outlining some of the steps and measures taken by Llandudno to ensure it remains the “Queen of Welsh resorts”.

full article, a must read ...........  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/11-lessons-llandudno-can-teach-21071171?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/11-lessons-llandudno-can-teach-21071171?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on July 18, 2021, 11:05:39 am
Be carefull using  What 3 words , I would stick with OS Grid references . Not very good if you are dyslexic.

Oban MRT along with other Scottish teams have been given W3W for call outs to locations in Java, Canada and mid Pacific Ocean.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on July 19, 2021, 04:27:46 pm
The Cable Car hasn't been running for several days now it seems. I hope all is well there, I suspect they might have been pinged which considering the numbers the operators come in to contact with wouldn't be a surprise. It's a shame they are missing out on the current heat wave and visitor numbers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on July 20, 2021, 09:22:19 am
The Cable Car hasn't been running for several days now it seems. I hope all is well there, I suspect they might have been pinged which considering the numbers the operators come in to contact with wouldn't be a surprise. It's a shame they are missing out on the current heat wave and visitor numbers.

I was told by an ex employee that they are short staffed.  An affliction that is severely hampering many businesses at the moment.
But I offered to work on the cable cars, I love those things!
I was advised to contact the owner, but he has no functioning website or Facebook page so I gave up.

I also suspect that the problem with the cable cars may run a little deeper than just staffing.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 24, 2021, 09:41:49 am
Mrs H and I commented on the number of times the street cleaning machine was seen around Westshore last week, up to three times a day ! ! 

LLANDUDNO has been visited by RHS Wales in Bloom judges as the town goes for gold for the sixth time in a row.

Llandudno in Bloom showcased its impressive flower displays from the Great Orme to West Shore and spoke to judges about ongoing community and environmental work during their visit to the town on Thursday.

The group has entered the coastal over 12,000 population category and has won a gold award every year since 2015. The competition could not take place last year due to coronavirus restrictions.


Judges John Woods and Sue-Marie Roberts were taken on a tour of the town to see the group’s work. This included the Great Orme, St Tudno’s Church, Happy Valley, West Shore, Haulfre Gardens, The Pier, The Promenade, Queen’s Park and Blind Veterans UK.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19464929.llandudno-bloom-aims-sixth-gold-row-judges-visit-displays/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19464929.llandudno-bloom-aims-sixth-gold-row-judges-visit-displays/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 25, 2021, 03:37:13 pm
LIVE: Traffic 'chaos' reported as crash involving car and motorbike shuts Llandudno road
Witnesses say drivers are having to turn around due to the closure of Colwyn Road

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-traffic-chaos-reported-incident-21140591 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-traffic-chaos-reported-incident-21140591)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 05, 2021, 10:34:51 am
Llandudno was heaving yesterday and parking was a nightmare.    All I wanted was some food from M & S and I was lucky to find a parking space in Mostyn Street after driving around town about three times
It was good to see the cafes and shops so busy but we went down to the West Shore to find a spot where we could eat our sandwiches.  On the way down to the shore we passed the Gloddaeth Avenue car park and there wasn't one space left, neither were there any spaces on the West Shore promenade so we ended up going home and enjoying them in the peace and quiet of our garden

Unless I have to go there for something, I'll wait until things have quietened down before going there again
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 07, 2021, 11:02:45 am
Apologies if this has been posted before but my walking buddy Tellytubby went to St John's Church in Llandudno on Thursday and was very impressed by the Lego display there
I've attached some of the photos he took while he was there.     It sounds like a great attraction for young and old alike       $good$



https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19491500.llandudno-church-caretakers-lego-display-open-saturday/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19491500.llandudno-church-caretakers-lego-display-open-saturday/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on August 07, 2021, 11:11:39 am
Some of those models cost a great deal; the Star Wars Destroyer, for example is currently being sold for £650 while the Colosseum is around £400. At the start of lockdown we both got into Lego again, having loved it when the kids were young.

The current models are absolutely fascinating and the attention  to detail is jaw dropping.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 07, 2021, 11:57:44 am
Did you know LEGO is the world's biggest manufacturer of car tyre's, one for your next Pub Quiz.  $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 07, 2021, 03:51:33 pm
I was Lego mad as a kid, and I had bucket loads.
I only got rid of it all once my own daughter had tired of it, when I was in my early 40s.
But... I’m not that keen on the modern sets, all purpose built to make perfect colosseums or Star Wars space vehicles.

You see in my day, we had to rely on our imagination.
I made endless houses, star ship Enterprises, tanks, London buses etc....and I’m sure they looked nothing like them really, but they did to me, and that’s all that was important.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 07, 2021, 07:13:01 pm
Well stated, Fester.  &well&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.......Luxury cruise ship
Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2021, 03:54:44 pm
Luxury cruise ship passengers docked off Llandudno reach shore by inflatables for trip to top tourist site
Its understood the ships passengers from the Hebridean Sky are headed to Bodnant Gardens

Dozens of (BRAVE) tourists from a luxury cruise ship have arrived in North Wales.

The passengers disembarked the multi-million-pound vessel off the coast of Llandudno earlier today and were ferried to shore via inflatable boats.

It is understood that the tourists were headed to Bodnant Gardens, one of North Wales' top tourist attractions, for the day.

video/cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/trips-breaks/luxury-cruise-ship-passengers-docked-21282848 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/trips-breaks/luxury-cruise-ship-passengers-docked-21282848)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2021, 10:30:14 pm
Motorhomes have been taking over a seaside street in Llandudno - and people are not happy
Conwy Council have now taken action after seeing an increase in caravans and motorhomes stopping overnight at various seaside parking zones since the ned of lockdown


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorhomes-been-taking-over-seaside-21288902 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorhomes-been-taking-over-seaside-21288902)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 12, 2021, 10:23:03 am
I was quite surprised by the age's of the passengers being ferried in those dinghies, made me feel quite unadventurous, their was even some FB speculation that some passengers were sliding down ropes from Chinook helicopters, after their day out..........not so, just coincidence two passing aircraft heading for Valley.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on August 12, 2021, 01:06:03 pm
Wonder why she anchored off?  Hebridean Sky is no bigger than the Isle of Mann boats that used to berth at the pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 12, 2021, 04:37:49 pm
There was an article in this week's NWWN by John Lawson Reay and it was about the recent events of two youths being rescued on the Little Orme.    It had made him think about the 14 year old Hubert Stone who tragically lost his life there in 1897.
In memory of his son and as a warning to others Hubert's father Frederick Stone had a memorial constructed at the spot where Hubert died.
Two local fishermen in a boat, one being a plasterer Pierce Jones found the body three days later
The full account of the incident can be found in John Lawson Reay's book "Secret Llandudno"
I've been there a few times and it can be difficult to get to but I hope that anyone visiting the memorial treats it with the respect it deserves.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 12, 2021, 07:54:27 pm
The problem is they haven't got the staff on the pier to bring the boat alongside & insurance, we used to have 4/5 on the crew to bring the Iom boats in, years ago their used to be landing steps near the end of the pier at the side don't think they are there anymore.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SAJ on August 12, 2021, 08:07:41 pm
It’s not that difficult going ashore in dinghy. I’m a grandma to - how many is it now? Anyway, a couple of years ago, in the far, frozen north of the Arctic, there were people even older than me going ashore from our converted herring lugger expedition ship and no one fell in!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 13, 2021, 04:54:21 pm
I remember the pier landing stage being repaired and updated with funds from the Windfarm.

It hasn’t been used that often since, if at all.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on August 13, 2021, 05:56:01 pm
The repaired dolphin has been used - most recently by the MV Balmoral which visited for a week or so each summer until 2017. The PS Waverley intended to call in 2018 but I think there was a problem with the boiler and the visit was cancelled at short notice.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 14, 2021, 01:17:41 am
It looks as if the expensive repairs were carried to the landing stage about around eight years ago.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwihxJztm6_yAhWID8AKHbTNAXIQFnoECBkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailypost.co.uk%2Fnews%2Flocal-news%2Fdelay-repair-llandudno-pier-landing-5393560&usg=AOvVaw2TZQi7P3xkaGt0pfaY4rJh (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwihxJztm6_yAhWID8AKHbTNAXIQFnoECBkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailypost.co.uk%2Fnews%2Flocal-news%2Fdelay-repair-llandudno-pier-landing-5393560&usg=AOvVaw2TZQi7P3xkaGt0pfaY4rJh)

Sadly, the cruise ship trade has yet to materialise and even when we had a small cruise ship in the other day, it was ignored.

“And in the long term it’s hoped that large cruise liners will anchor in the bay and ferry passengers to the landing stage in their lifeboats.”
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 14, 2021, 07:46:19 am
They haven't the staff to bring the boats alongside, we had a deck crew of 8/9'in our day at least 4 per shift to bring them in, plus the insurance will be expensive, their used to be steps on the side near the end that tenders would use but I don't think they are there anymore.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 14, 2021, 05:05:52 pm
From my experience of cruising, norman08, it is usual for crew of a cruise ship to make their way to the landing stage initially to set it all up before the passengers eventually leave the cruise ship and to sail over in the ships’ tenders.

Please feel free to check my facts with Pat and Bill.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 14, 2021, 08:57:22 pm
Yes Brian you are right, if the steps were still on the side they could have docked there, when the Balmoral & Waverley come I think they send their guys, few years ago I stood there watching the boat approaching and new they wouldn't make it, people next to me said how do You know, they tried 3 times and give up 😢
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on August 15, 2021, 02:28:33 pm
Last two seasons the Balmoral was here, Dan and a crew from the RNLI dealt with docking.  Depending on the tide, access was available from the lower platform via steps as an alternative to the top stage.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 16, 2021, 05:05:01 am
That I can understand, Cambrian, because Balmoral is unlikely to have as many available crew as a cruise ship like Hebridean Sky had.

It concerns me that so much money was spent on the refurbishment of the landing stage to help attract cruise ships to Llandudno but when we finally get one, after waiting many years, its passengers have to use the old lifeboat slipway to come ashore.





Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 21, 2021, 10:36:29 am
Ref  Gogarth Councillors August news letter,from Cllrs. Harry Saville and Louise Emery

MOTORHOME PARKING - GLODDAETH AVENUE
You may have noticed a new, single yellow line has been painted along Gloddaeth Avenue.  The single yellow line draws motorists' attention to a partial parking restriction that prohibits motorhomes from parking along this stretch of road between 11pm and 8am.  It does not apply to any other kind of vehicle, and it does not apply to motorhomes parking between 8am and 11pm.  It is similar to the restrictions already in place on parts of Great Ormes Road, Abbey Road, West Parade, Lloyd Street West, Dale Road, Trinity Crescent and the North Shore.

The new restriction was introduced following complaints from local residents about motorhomes parking alongside Maelgwyn Road Car Park for days (occasionally weeks) at a time and dumping their toilet waste on to the road.  Conwy County Borough Council consulted on the new restriction in October last year and no objections were received.  Small signs that show the restriction applies only to motorhomes between 11pm and 8am are due to be fitted to lamp posts along the road.

The Council are looking at the feasibility of providing a motorhome stop-over site with waste disposal facilities which will compliment the small number of privately run stop-over sites nearby.


SHELTERS - GLODDAETH AVENUE AND NORTH SHORE PROMENADE
The Victorian shelter in the central reservation of Gloddaeth Avenue has become an eyesore over recent years.  Before the pandemic Cartrefi Conwy and Brenig Construction offered to refurbish the structure whilst developing the former Bryant and Hocknell site, at the junction between Deganwy Avenue and Gloddaeth Street.

Eagle-eyed residents will have noticed that the roof has been replaced.  Brenig Construction are currently awaiting delivery of replacement tongue and groove boarding. Once this has been fitted all that should be left is to repair the ironwork and decorate the shelter.  Hopefully this refurbishment will leave the structure in good condition for many years to come.

Meanwhile, Conwy County Borough Council have secured funding from Visit Wales to replace two of the 1960s era shelters on the North Shore Promenade.  We believe a Victorian design is being considered, similar to the shelter on Gloddaeth Avenue which was originally sited on the prom.  The replacement is unlikely to happen immediately, but hopefully the new shelters will be an improvement on the current ones.




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 22, 2021, 10:52:45 am
Reports of man 'slashed in throat' during Llandudno nightclub incident
Police were called to the scene during the early hours of today - however official details are yet to be released


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reports-man-slashed-throat-during-21369398 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reports-man-slashed-throat-during-21369398)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 22, 2021, 11:58:08 am
Ccbc secure funding for some shelters on the prom 🤔,  they had funding 6 years ago for new shelters , so wonder where that went,  more to the point why haven't Mostyn est paid anything after all the say they own the prom.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 22, 2021, 12:49:39 pm
Ccbc secure funding for some shelters on the prom 🤔,  they had funding 6 years ago for new shelters , so wonder where that went,  more to the point why haven't Mostyn est paid anything after all the say they own the prom.

This article was published in 2013 about the promenade shelters but no money have been forthcoming from Mostyn Estates and I seem to remember Edward Hiller promising to pay for Victorian Street lamp posts on the prom but again nothing
What do you expect when Mostyn Estates refused to pay anything for replacement paving stones in front of their own properties

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/going-back-victorian-times-plans-5318345 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/going-back-victorian-times-plans-5318345)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2021, 09:40:43 am
Motorhome stop-over site could be built by North Wales council in county hit by illegal stays
Conwy council is looking to secure UK Government funding towards a site for campervans

This has led to Conwy council taking action by adding parking restrictions on Gloddaeth Avenue in Llandudno and the local authority has also been asked to look into rule breaches at other beauty spots.

But the authority is looking at a carrot and stick approach with a move to develop its own stop-over site to relieve some of the pressure.

In other European countries such as France, a network of designated overnight parking areas for use by fully self-contained motorhomes ('Aire' facility or similar) has been established.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorhome-stop-over-site-could-21384568?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorhome-stop-over-site-could-21384568?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)

Comment
"Works in Most European countries. The vast majority of campervan and Motorhome owners respect the environment, respect the land and bring revenue. Those that break the law should be punished locals and tourists alike."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 25, 2021, 12:31:06 pm
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pier-gets-permanent-giant-21394179?fbclid=IwAR370LAN8N-GBIr-g6HspCsQh3VCDB1HqhSvejxFhHfYH-VepOztErBZsfQ#source=breaking-news (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pier-gets-permanent-giant-21394179?fbclid=IwAR370LAN8N-GBIr-g6HspCsQh3VCDB1HqhSvejxFhHfYH-VepOztErBZsfQ#source=breaking-news)

I think those opposed to the pier development might prefer looking at that than an illuminated giant Ferris wheel?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 25, 2021, 12:32:12 pm
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pier-gets-permanent-giant-21394179?fbclid=IwAR370LAN8N-GBIr-g6HspCsQh3VCDB1HqhSvejxFhHfYH-VepOztErBZsfQ#source=breaking-news (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pier-gets-permanent-giant-21394179?fbclid=IwAR370LAN8N-GBIr-g6HspCsQh3VCDB1HqhSvejxFhHfYH-VepOztErBZsfQ#source=breaking-news)

I think those opposed to the pier development might prefer looking at that than an illuminated giant Ferris wheel?

On the other hand who will buy an apartment overlooking a giant Ferris wheel!!

I am presuming it will be built by those amusement arcades and not at the very end of the pier.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 25, 2021, 12:56:32 pm
It does look like it is being sited right in front of the upright ironwork, I also noticed from the photo, it is on it's own trailer and could be moved, unlike the DP's comment "permanent".
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on August 26, 2021, 08:50:01 am
By the time those apartments get built with all the arguing and red tape going on the wheel will probably have rusted away. ! $hands$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 26, 2021, 09:33:49 am
Llandudno Pier's new ferris wheel taking shape as excitement builds ahead of bank holiday

It will stand 69ft (21 metres) high and be located next to the amusement arcades. It could also be open as early as Friday, in time for the bank holiday weekend.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-piers-new-ferris-wheel-21402920?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4#comments-wrapper (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-piers-new-ferris-wheel-21402920?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4#comments-wrapper)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 26, 2021, 01:40:45 pm
Do you need planning consent to site a Ferris wheel? I'm surprised that this was a fait accompli by the owner with no prior warning.He certainly got the publicity he wanted anyway!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 26, 2021, 03:55:31 pm
Do you need planning consent to site a Ferris wheel? I'm surprised that this was a fait accompli by the owner with no prior warning.He certainly got the publicity he wanted anyway!

As it's a moveable object, on Private, Freehold Land, Planning Permission, is not required, i.e. the Lighthouse Fish and Chip shop. As it is right in front of my Lounge window, I will reserve judgement until after it starts to operate this weekend, but if it in any way interferes with Waldron's plans for the Pavilion Site, then bring it on, the more the merrier.  {}{}
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 26, 2021, 09:59:16 pm
From Craig-y-Don it looks really good and adds a little excitement for those on a holiday visit...closer it might be a bit OTT with those flashing lights!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on August 27, 2021, 08:47:24 am
Do you need planning consent to site a Ferris wheel? I'm surprised that this was a fait accompli by the owner with no prior warning.He certainly got the publicity he wanted anyway!

As it's a moveable object, on Private, Freehold Land, Planning Permission, is not required, i.e. the Lighthouse Fish and Chip shop. As it is right in front of my Lounge window, I will reserve judgement until after it starts to operate this weekend, but if it in any way interferes with Waldron's plans for the Pavilion Site, then bring it on, the more the merrier.  {}{}
Who knows, if the Pavilion project falls through, you might end up with a full sized funfair on the site for you to enjoy every Summer.  $drink$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2021, 09:19:04 am
Recap: Police and ambulance called after car ploughs through wall and into house
The car has veered off the road on a roundabout in Llandudno


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-ambulance-called-after-21413166 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-ambulance-called-after-21413166)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 27, 2021, 10:09:10 am
From Craig-y-Don it looks really good and adds a little excitement for those on a holiday visit...closer it might be a bit OTT with those flashing lights!

It is a lot brighter than I was expecting, I was hoping Blongb had good blackout curtains, you mentioned good advertising before, the story was published in the Liverpool Echo last night, and Llandudno Hub was talking to people up from Stoke, to watch it being built, and hopefully have a go............. it was operating last night for friends and family, according to FB  photo from FB
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 27, 2021, 02:15:49 pm
There was one comment, from someone who was on the ride last night, which makes sense to me, "the lights were so bright and flashing, we could see nothing of our surroundings",

The strange superstition that meant Llandudno's giant ferris wheel couldn't open on Friday
And the first punter only had to pay £1 to ride the new attraction on Llandudno pier  (normally£3)

Crowds looked-on in awe last night as a huge ferris wheel lit up the sky above North Wales for the first time.

cont/video  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-ferris-wheel-superstition-friday-21413970 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-ferris-wheel-superstition-friday-21413970)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on August 27, 2021, 05:02:50 pm
Hugo, I had a look at the DP report.  Surely it didn't take NWP nearly two hours to call the ambulance service ?  Perhaps I have misread or just a DP error.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on August 27, 2021, 11:16:19 pm
The wheel - why does it have to have constantly changing swirling patterned lights? Why can't it just be a fixed multicolour? A friend of mines kids love the pier but one has epilepsy so flashing changing lights like that will now make that end of the prom a no go nevermind the pier itself. They can't be the only kids triggered like that... Is it worth writing to the council to try and get it changed to non flashing stationary lights? I have vertigo/dizzyness/migraines and don't fancy seeing it in my eyeline either! I'm all for Ferris wheels, just don't see why they have to give lightshow seizures!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on August 27, 2021, 11:39:37 pm
I’m interested in BlongB’s opinion now.
It feels awfully like a rock and a hard place to me.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2021, 09:46:17 am
Llandudno ferris wheel: Height, prices, opening times and everything else you need to know
The ride on Llandudno pier has already become quite the talking point

The ride stands at 69ft (21 metres) high.

HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN IT HOLD?
The ferris wheel is made up of 18 fiberglass gondolas which are capable of seating up to 108 people, with six passengers to a gondola.

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO RIDE?
£4 a go - per person and payment can be made by cash or card - no booking required, just turn up and join the queue.

HOW LONG DOES A RIDE LAST?
Times vary but a normal ride would be expected to last around 4-5 minutes and the wheel can make 4 full rotations at that time.

OPENING TIMES
From midday onwards with the wheel expected to close around 9.30pm when the pier shuts.

WHEN IS IT ON UNTIL?
End of November 2021. The big wheel will then go on a tour of different events - such as Christmas fairs - across the UK and will return to Llandudno for Easter ready for the season to begin.

Its owners have said by doing this the wheel will also help promote Llandudno to a wider UK audience.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-ferris-wheel-height-prices-21416211?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-ferris-wheel-height-prices-21416211?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on August 28, 2021, 01:56:58 pm
The wheel - why does it have to have constantly changing swirling patterned lights? Why can't it just be a fixed multicolour? A friend of mines kids love the pier but one has epilepsy so flashing changing lights like that will now make that end of the prom a no go nevermind the pier itself. They can't be the only kids triggered like that... Is it worth writing to the council to try and get it changed to non flashing stationary lights? I have vertigo/dizzyness/migraines and don't fancy seeing it in my eyeline either! I'm all for Ferris wheels, just don't see why they have to give lightshow seizures!

Couldn't agree more, twinkling lights instead of flashing ones and it has my 100% support. Must be sheer hell being nearby and if anything will drive many people away rather than attract them to the pier. Dinner with a sea view nearby must be ruined for many folk.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2021, 02:07:18 pm
The wheel - why does it have to have constantly changing swirling patterned lights? Why can't it just be a fixed multicolour? A friend of mines kids love the pier but one has epilepsy so flashing changing lights like that will now make that end of the prom a no go nevermind the pier itself. They can't be the only kids triggered like that... Is it worth writing to the council to try and get it changed to non flashing stationary lights? I have vertigo/dizzyness/migraines and don't fancy seeing it in my eyeline either! I'm all for Ferris wheels, just don't see why they have to give lightshow seizures!

Couldn't agree more, twinkling lights instead of flashing ones and it has my 100% support. Must be sheer hell being nearby and if anything will drive many people away rather than attract them to the pier. Dinner with a sea view nearby must be ruined for many folk.

I agree with both sets of comments, I can get headaches from broken light tubes flickering, let alone this OTT display.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2021, 03:38:19 pm
Hugo, I had a look at the DP report.  Surely it didn't take NWP nearly two hours to call the ambulance service ?  Perhaps I have misread or just a DP error.

I didn't see anything that mentioned that it took two hours to call the Ambulance Service, apparently the Police and Ambulance were called shortly before 7.30 pm.     The Ambulance Service then sent a rapid response vehicle there together with an Ambulance but I've no idea when the vehicles arrived.
At 9.15 PM  a truck towed away the car involved in the accident.
Thankfully the occupiers of the house avoided serious injury but I bet they will dread something like that happening again
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 29, 2021, 09:54:45 am
This I appreciate is just one comment but.......... recent comment regarding the wheel, from a lady in Liverpool, who wrote, "my friends and I visit Llandudno 4/5 times a year, we enjoy the town and the atmosphere, and feeling very safe there, however after reading about the wheel, we think it could drew the wrong people to the area, and we will not be returning,"

'Ghost town' warning after homeless people placed in Llandudno holiday accommodation
Tourist bosses and local MS voice concerns over the move but council defended its position as it works to keep people off the streets

The resort has a Holiday Accommodation Zone which usually prevents hotels, guest houses and B&Bs being changed from tourism use.

But Welsh Government introduced emergency planning legislation at the height of the pandemic so homeless people could be housed in holiday accommodation.

That remains in place and the Llandudno Hospitality Association has criticised Conwy council for recently putting homeless people in a property in the town that had been a guest house.

They warn that this could start a decline in holiday accommodation and lead to the economic and social problems seen in other holiday resorts like Rhyl and Colwyn Bay in recent decades.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ghost-town-warning-after-homeless-21414688?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4#comments-wrapper (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/ghost-town-warning-after-homeless-21414688?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4#comments-wrapper)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2021, 09:57:53 am
Llandudno was featured on the BBC news this morning and the reporter was on the beach with the pier in the background.    It's the first time that I have seen the big wheel and it is exactly that, it's big!
Blongb you're going to have to put blackout blinds on your property if you don't want to see that thing  all evening.
I wonder what Waldron thinks of the big wheel?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Blongb on August 30, 2021, 12:56:48 pm
Llandudno was featured on the BBC news this morning and the reporter was on the beach with the pier in the background.    It's the first time that I have seen the big wheel and it is exactly that, it's big!
Blongb you're going to have to put blackout blinds on your property if you don't want to see that thing  all evening.
I wonder what Waldron thinks of the big wheel?

I actually like the Wheel with it's coloured lights Hugo, which are switched off at 10:00 pm and think it is a great attraction for the town. It's already generating a much needed income stream for the pier but at £970,000 will take a long time to earn a profit. As for Waldron and his corrupt backers, the more spanners in their works the better.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 30, 2021, 02:15:30 pm
Good to hear it's not a problem for you, Blongb 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno like........GoldWing Light Parade
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2021, 02:26:04 pm
Some competition for the Wheel..........                                                               ref pioneer

MORE than one hundred bikes and trikes will descend on Llandudno promenade for the return of an annual show.

GoldWing Light Parade, which usually attracts thousands of people to the town, takes place for the ninth time to celebrate the Honda Gold Wing touring motorcycle on Saturday, September 4.

The two- and three-wheeled vehicles will be parked and exhibited from 10am with mayor of Llandudno Cllr Harry Saville and president of Llandudno Lions Norman Mylchreest judging the best bike and trike bikes categories at 2pm.

Road closures will be in place from Carton roundabout to Broadway roundabout, including Mostyn Street and the promenade, from 7.30pm before the parade begins at Llandudno Lifeboat Station at 8pm. Riders will complete two circuits of the town before returning to the promenade.

Bikes will then be judged again by Cllr Saville and Mr Mylchreest in the best lights on parade category.

The annual event has raised thousands of pounds for Wales Air Ambulance, Llandudno RNLI, North Wales Blood Bikes and the Lions Charities, which are also expected to be in attendance. There will be collection buckets and charity raffle tickets will be available at the Evans Hotel.

Attendees will be reminded to maintain a safe distance according to coronavirus rules while bikes will be cleansed during the exhibition.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 31, 2021, 08:02:16 pm
Three Castles Classic Trial also in town from tomorrow until Saturday - finishing on the Prom on Saturday afternoon.  About 100 classic cars which will start from the Prom each morning (Thursday, Friday and Saturday) and cover routes around north Wales.

Llandudno is going to be bsuy!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 01, 2021, 02:38:45 pm
Three Castles Classic Trial also in town from tomorrow until Saturday - finishing on the Prom on Saturday afternoon.  About 100 classic cars which will start from the Prom each morning (Thursday, Friday and Saturday) and cover routes around north Wales.
Llandudno is going to be busy!
Courtesy of John Hulme Snr FB photos
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 02, 2021, 10:14:53 am
Llandudno Honda Gold Wing parade: Date, time, full route and everything else you need to know
More than 150 spectacular bikes will be parading through the town as part of the special event

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-honda-goldwing-parade-date-21424580?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-honda-goldwing-parade-date-21424580?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 05, 2021, 10:27:33 am
This article strengthens the case for dedicated camper-van sites in the area, and considering the lack of parking in general, not an easy task,......and the annoying examples, of drivers parking, leaving 8/10 feet between cars, without consideration for those coming later.......

A study Nationwide Vehicle Contracts has revealed the top 50 most popular viewpoints for van enthusiasts across the UK and the world's top 20.

Snowdonia ranks second on the UK list with a #vanlife rating of 96%, only behind Mourne Mountains in Northern Ireland. Anglesey is at 34th and the Great Orme 39th.

This comes as there has been a boom in motorhome visits to the park since the lifting of lockdown - which has brought benefits and costs, with complaints over illegal parking and waste being dumped.

Conwy and Gwynedd councils are both exploring ways of managing the surge in visits.

A spokesman for Nationwide Vehicle Contracts said: "The hashtag #Vanlife has seen a staggering +1575% growth in interest online since 2015, and in the UK there has been a 57% year on year rise in people purchasing commercial vehicles for personal use.

"With the world starting to open up again post-pandemic, the alternative lifestyle of committing to a home on wheels is expected to become even more popular.

"With a 4.9 star rating on Google, over 939,122 hashtags on Instagram, and a petrol price of 132p Snowdonia scored a respectable viewpoint score of 96.00 out of 100.

"Snowdonia's also featured in the worldwide rankings, coming 19th out of all the global viewpoints studied."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 07, 2021, 02:31:55 pm
Ferris wheel can further Llandudno's status as Queen resort

BUSINESSES have shared their optimism following the opening of a Ferris wheel on Llandudno Pier.

The 69-foot wheel, which has been custom-made for the promenade to the tune of almost £1million, has attracted thousands of people since its opening at the end of August.

Pier owner Adam Williams said he hopes the attraction, which can carry 108 people - 18 gondolas with six people each - will improve the nightlife of the pier and increase footfall along the promenade.

Tourism in Llandudno has boomed over the summer following the lifting of travel restrictions, and hotel and restaurant owners said they believe the Ferris wheel provides another family activity that could continue to attract people over the coming years.

Brian Simpson, owner of The View, said: “Bringing this to Llandudno is a great development; the area is busier later than it was but it shuts at 10pm, so there are not just drunkards or idiots around as there normally would be.

“The kids have been so excited you couldn’t believe.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19563859.ferris-wheel-can-llandudnos-status-queen-resort/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19563859.ferris-wheel-can-llandudnos-status-queen-resort/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2021, 02:00:18 pm
Sam Rowlands, MS for North Wales, paid a visit to the newly refurbished and reopened Llandudno Museum on Gloddaeth Street.

He said: “The Llandudno Museum has undergone a significant refurbishment and I was delighted to be given the opportunity to have a look round.

“It is full of history and tells the fascinating story of Llandudno from prehistoric times through to the present day. This includes a little known fact that the town hosted the 1865 and 1866 Olympic Festivals, forerunners of the modern day Olympics

“There is something there for everyone and it even has an exhibition displaying work by local schools which reflects upon the Covid-19 lockdown.

“I am delighted to see Llandudno Museum open again as it provides another excellent indoor tourist attraction for the area where we already have the Home Front Experience, Penderyn Whiskey’s distillery and the Boathouse Climbing Centre."

The refurbishment has been supported by Mostyn Estates, the Heritage Lottery Fund, the Garfield Weston Foundation, the Welsh Government, Conwy County Borough Council, Llandudno Town Council and RWE who run the Gwynt y Mor offshore windfarm.

The museum also includes a new garden space at the rear of the building, maintained by volunteers from local rehabilitation organisation CAIS.                     ref pioneer

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cordyline on September 11, 2021, 12:50:01 am
Had a short break at the Grand Hotel  this week
The new Ferris Wheel is made by Lamborghini
Very impressive at night when it is lit up
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51444983720_25e15011e1_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mo1ZkW)Llandudno (https://flic.kr/p/2mo1ZkW) by Cordyii (https://www.flickr.com/photos/54576480@N03/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51444275948_f94a4c8828_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mnXmWY)001Wheel (https://flic.kr/p/2mnXmWY) by Cordyii (https://www.flickr.com/photos/54576480@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 11, 2021, 08:58:16 am
The Ferris wheel is actually made by Lamborghini Rides. This is not the same company as the car manufacturer.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on September 11, 2021, 10:19:48 am
There's surprisingly little about Lamborghini Rides in the pubic domain, other than they're a multi-national company, based in Rome, which designs, builds and exports fairground rides all over the world.

Lamborghini cars, of course, is owned by VW.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 13, 2021, 10:21:21 am
The upper floors of a Llandudno department store could become apartments in a new plan to breathe life into the site..

The Madoc Street building had housed Lazars for several decades before the site later became a Littlewoods clearance store under the Outlet brand.

This shop closed in 2018 and has been empty since then.
Now a plan has been submitted by applicant Marc Larner to change the first, second and third floors of the building into eight flats.

Under the proposal the building's exterior would be revamped while retail would be retained on the ground floor.

They also said they would strip the "crude" first floor shop front addition to return the buildings back to a closer representation of the original building.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-plan-llandudno-department-store-21552246?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-plan-llandudno-department-store-21552246?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 13, 2021, 04:35:57 pm
I wonder how many of the flats will be affordable for local people?     If none of the flats are affordable then it will be interesting to see how much the developer volunteers to pay in lieu of not building affordable properties
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 13, 2021, 05:11:35 pm
I wonder how many of the flats will be affordable for local people?     If none of the flats are affordable then it will be interesting to see how much the developer volunteers to pay in lieu of not building affordable properties

I was looking to see what type of houses they built, without success, however I did notice it is the same company looking at the M&Co building, on Gloddaeth St. I posted on the Shop thread a few days ago.........  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/three-prominent-north-wales-store-21540748 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/property/three-prominent-north-wales-store-21540748)   

   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?......Firework display
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2021, 02:25:18 pm
LLANDUDNO's firework display is set to come back with a bang this November.

The display will be held on Sunday, November 7 at 6.20pm at Llandudno North Shore beach.

If adverse weather conditions prevent the event from going ahead on this date, it will be held on Monday, November 8 at 7pm.

A spokesperson for Llandudno Town Council said: "These dates are the only ones that fit in with tidal times and ranges that allow sufficient time to safely set up, hold the display, and then remove all the equipment necessary to fire the display.

"The event is subject to the weather, and any changes to Covid-19 regulations and Alert levels."

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19581807.llandudno-bringing-back-fireworks---everything-need-know/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19581807.llandudno-bringing-back-fireworks---everything-need-know/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on September 15, 2021, 02:26:45 pm
Work starting on Llandudno's The Range
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2021, 02:33:50 pm
Work starting on Llandudno's The Range

Where is this happening? please
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: llandudnotrust on September 15, 2021, 04:05:09 pm
old Warehouse store
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 15, 2021, 04:35:50 pm
Where exactly is that?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 15, 2021, 10:02:32 pm
It’s the former Outfit store, Hugo, on Parc Llandudno.

If you enter Parc Llandudno from the area of the Llandudno Swimming Pool, it is the large building on your left as you walk through.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 15, 2021, 10:52:20 pm
Thanks very much Bri         $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on September 16, 2021, 09:08:47 am
That's the store M&S Where going in the original plans.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on September 16, 2021, 06:21:39 pm
Couldn't resist a ride on the new ferris wheel today.
Some views better than others!   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on September 17, 2021, 11:00:35 pm
Indeed, which is why we went on at night last night.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 20, 2021, 11:15:12 am
I note that one of Mostyn Street’s original disused cast iron lampposts has been removed from outside the Pound Bakery. Hopefully, it will reappear after repairs. The lighting along Mostyn Street is very poor in places, the crossing/pavement outside M&S is in almost darkness at night.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 01, 2021, 10:09:28 am
Is it a case of watch this space............                                                      ref DP

Three major firework displays and bonfire nights across North Wales have been cancelled due to concerns over coronavirus rates and regulations.

Organisers of the displays that were set to take place in Amlwch, Beaumaris and Denbigh have all confirmed that their respective events have been called off for this year due to reasons pertaining to safety and Covid-19.

It marks the second year in a row where the towns' firework displays have been cancelled after all major displays and bonfire nights were called off last October due to the pandemic.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 04, 2021, 02:45:39 pm
Anyone who was rudely awakened from their siesta a few minutes ago ....  this was the culprit................
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 04, 2021, 03:05:48 pm
Didn't hear a thing!
There was a large Navy ship off the Orme yesterday, anyone know which ship it was?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 04, 2021, 03:30:43 pm
I think this plane was clearing out the chimneys between West and North shores, no idea of the ship, and just in case you do not have the link, this is handy for identifying vessels,  it is showing a large number of ships sheltering from the approaching storm, at the moment/

Marine link  https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-3.7/centery:53.3/zoom:9 (https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-3.7/centery:53.3/zoom:9)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2021, 10:12:28 am
Update on above...

The reason 14 ships are anchored off the coast of Anglesey - and why some have been there for days
Some of them were due to arrive at their ports over the weekend

A dozen of them are container ships that have been stationed in the Irish Sea off Anglesey's north-east coast for several days.

The vessels range in size from the 62,000 ton Eagle Hamilton tanker which left Ingleside in the USA on September 17 to the 1,900 ton cargo ship Amadeus Aquamarijn.

Some of them were due to enter the Port of Liverpool over the weekend and have been held back due to the weather conditions.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reason-14-ships-anchored-coast-21779859 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reason-14-ships-anchored-coast-21779859)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 07, 2021, 03:43:54 pm
A large RAF plance flew over town yesterday on it's way from Bize Norton but flight tracker didn't give a destination.

As for the Navy ship the other day, it must have had it's transponders turned off so as to remain invisible on my marine traffic app !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 30, 2021, 09:49:34 am
Wanted - North Wales extras for ITV drama, £107-a-day, must have 'different hairstyles'
The appeal is generating a lot of interest from people looking for their 15 minutes of fame

A casting company is looking for extras for an ITV drama due to be filmed in Llandudno next month.

Candidates are needed for six days of filming in the Queen of Welsh Resorts – but there is a quirky catch.

As some scenes are set in the 20th century, Liverpool-based Impact Casting said people with different attributes are needed.

“Some scenes are set in the 60’s, 70’s and then some later, so we are looking for all different hairstyles!” said the company.

A variety of roles for different age groups are up for grabs, with filming scheduled from Sunday to Friday, November 7-12.

Industry-standard pay rates are on being offered – £107.45 per day with a £48.50 fitting rate.

Impact Casting said it could not shed light on the nature of the drama for confidentiality reasons.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/wanted-north-wales-extras-itv-22014853 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/wanted-north-wales-extras-itv-22014853)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on October 30, 2021, 05:42:36 pm
Wanted - North Wales extras for ITV drama, £107-a-day, must have 'different hairstyles'
The appeal is generating a lot of interest from people looking for their 15 minutes of fame

A casting company is looking for extras for an ITV drama due to be filmed in Llandudno next month.

Candidates are needed for six days of filming in the Queen of Welsh Resorts – but there is a quirky catch.

As some scenes are set in the 20th century, Liverpool-based Impact Casting said people with different attributes are needed.

“Some scenes are set in the 60’s, 70’s and then some later, so we are looking for all different hairstyles!” said the company.

A variety of roles for different age groups are up for grabs, with filming scheduled from Sunday to Friday, November 7-12.

Industry-standard pay rates are on being offered – £107.45 per day with a £48.50 fitting rate.

Impact Casting said it could not shed light on the nature of the drama for confidentiality reasons.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/wanted-north-wales-extras-itv-22014853 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/wanted-north-wales-extras-itv-22014853)

You have to have current DBE checks in place, so I assume you’ll be on set with children.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2021, 10:00:22 am
List of 41 North Wales projects securing 'levelling-up' funds - from Llandudno prom to Net Zero academy
UK Government announced the money but Welsh Government say it's far lower than Wales would have got from the EU

UK Government has announced the recipients of its Community Renewal Fund - part of its 'levelling-up' money that is designed to replace EU funding.

There were more than 160 projects across Wales that received a share of over £46 million to help people into work.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/list-41-north-wales-projects-22059893 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/list-41-north-wales-projects-22059893)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2021, 03:08:33 pm
Mrs H, has been telling me about the Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza, from their FB page, and it does sound as if it is going to be a very good attraction for everyone,  it is being run by the Extravaganza team,  (unlike the previous private Xmas Fayer's, that charged for entry),  this is free to all.

For further details.....https://www.facebook.com/Llandudno-Christmas-Extravaganza-100637528171279 (https://www.facebook.com/Llandudno-Christmas-Extravaganza-100637528171279)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 05, 2021, 03:29:20 pm
List of 41 North Wales projects securing 'levelling-up' funds - from Llandudno prom to Net Zero academy
UK Government announced the money but Welsh Government say it's far lower than Wales would have got from the EU

UK Government has announced the recipients of its Community Renewal Fund - part of its 'levelling-up' money that is designed to replace EU funding.

There were more than 160 projects across Wales that received a share of over £46 million to help people into work.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/list-41-north-wales-projects-22059893 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/list-41-north-wales-projects-22059893)

Where was the voice of Welsh Government when we went to vote? Wales voted out, much to my surprise, so we just have to suck it up now.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 05, 2021, 03:34:43 pm
By slightly below 5%.  Rather than simply succumbing I believe we should press for a re-run.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Robbie G on November 05, 2021, 04:11:38 pm
God Forbid
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on November 05, 2021, 05:02:21 pm
Welsh Assembly was approved by 0.6% in that referendum.  What's sauce for the goose......
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 05, 2021, 05:56:23 pm
So we have got funding for Llandudno prom, um Mostyn estates own the prom, if it's for the new shelters the council had funding for them years ago, but it's gone missing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 05, 2021, 06:53:58 pm
Welsh Assembly was approved by 0.6% in that referendum.  What's sauce for the goose......

Indeed, as May discovered that still causes some issues (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-46863044). Knife-edge majorities are perhaps acceptable for local elections, but for major change I suspect they need to have a sizeable majority. Taking a major decision on a tight margin leaves the result open to a great deal of scepticism.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 06, 2021, 09:41:52 am
Who are the Mostyn family and why do they own so much of Llandudno
The aristocratic clan have 500 years of history with the resort they did so much to shape and they still retain a significant cultural and financial influence

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/who-mostyn-family-much-llandudno-22043969 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/who-mostyn-family-much-llandudno-22043969)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 06, 2021, 12:51:42 pm
Who are the Mostyn family and why do they own so much of Llandudno
The aristocratic clan have 500 years of history with the resort they did so much to shape and they still retain a significant cultural and financial influence

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/who-mostyn-family-much-llandudno-22043969 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/who-mostyn-family-much-llandudno-22043969)

A glance at the accounts of Mostyn Estates shows a significant reduction in the value of assets this last couple of years. 
Together with something like a 90% drop in the value of cash at bank.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 06, 2021, 01:57:27 pm
I'm absolutely gutted for the poor estate.    No wonder they couldn't afford to pay for improving the pavements that they own or contribute towards the Victorian shelters and lamp posts that they promised to contribute to.                   &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 07, 2021, 10:12:30 am
10 reasons why Llandudno is better than any beach holiday abroad
The North Wales resort was named one of the top trending destinations in the world for 2022 by Booking.com and here's just some of its attractions

The travel site described the town as the perfect staycation escape, complete with beaches, nature and castles – what more could you want from a holiday?

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/10-reasons-llandudno-better-any-22070411?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/10-reasons-llandudno-better-any-22070411?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 07, 2021, 04:56:15 pm
Why a massive film crew is in Llandudno - and it's nothing to do with I'm A Celebrity
A fleet of trucks and trailers have taken over a car park and scenes have been shot in Rhos-on-Sea today for what's believed to be a documentary on a notorious figure


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/massive-film-crew-llandudno-its-22094438 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/massive-film-crew-llandudno-its-22094438)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2021, 08:16:31 pm
Why here? The subject of this was a volunteer at Leeds infirmary where my Dad was for 13 weeks. Met him a few times. Made my skin crawl !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on November 07, 2021, 08:56:18 pm
I wanted to post a short clip of the fireworks, taken from the Pier, but the Forum doesn’t seem to accept videos.
So, instead, here are some pics of how busy the promenade area was earlier...

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 08, 2021, 08:26:13 am
I watched from our front gate and was very impressed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 08, 2021, 10:05:38 am
There are a couple of Youtube videos of the Firework display...........

The first one from the prom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG2gKvv8PH0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG2gKvv8PH0)

Second from the Orme     
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGm-Kgj4D_c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGm-Kgj4D_c)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 09, 2021, 10:05:05 am
THOUSANDS of people descended on Llandudno to watch a dazzling firework display.

The display was held on Sunday, November 7 at Llandudno North Shore beach. It was labelled 'absolutely fabulous', 'fantastic', 'brilliant' and a 'must see' by many families and individuals.

Cllr Carol Marubbi, chairman of Llandudno Town Council’s Fireworks Sub-Committee, said: "On behalf of the town council, I would like to thank the town council staff, councillors and volunteers, the events and the ERF teams at Conwy County Borough Council and all involved in putting on such a fantastic display.

"Particular thanks go to Adam Williams of Tir Prince and his amazing team for all their support of this event and also Ignite Pyrotechnics who put on such a fabulous show

"Without all the stakeholders working together, this event would not have been able to take place.

"We are delighted to have been able to put on this popular Fireworks Spectacular enjoyed by local residents and visitors from far and wide”.

Llandudno Town Council has organised the display since its inception back in 1976.

Last year the annual spectacular was cancelled due to Covid-19; the pandemic brought with it many "insurmountable logistical and financial problems" and as a result, the council took the decision to cancel the display.

The Bay of Colwyn Town Council, with support from Colwyn Bay Fire Station and Conwy County Borough Council, held its bonfire and fireworks event in Eirias Park on Friday, November 5.

photos https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19703676.spectators-delighted-fireworks-return-bang-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19703676.spectators-delighted-fireworks-return-bang-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 12, 2021, 10:13:54 am
The new Ice Cream Kiosk on the prom looks great. Not sure about some of the people hanging around it though...
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on November 12, 2021, 01:53:39 pm
I do hope that this isn't going to be left visible when the Remembrance service takes place. I might be stuffy, but I think that this should at least be covered over out of respect.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 12, 2021, 02:01:42 pm
We hope they have gone before Sunday morning
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?..Police Incident
Post by: SteveH on November 13, 2021, 09:38:23 am
Police and firefighters have been called to an incident at a Llandudno jeweller.

Officers with dogs are among the emergency services outside the Goldsmiths shop in Mostyn Street.

Our reporter says that armed officers have pulled up to the scene.

A canine unit is also already in attendance - along with several uniformed officers.

We are still awaiting clarification on what has happened here tonight.

We will bring you all the latest as we get it.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-dogs-fire-service-22156449 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-dogs-fire-service-22156449)

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?..Police Incident
Post by: SteveH on November 13, 2021, 02:22:20 pm
Update...ref DP

Police have launched an investigation into a suspected late night break in at a well-known high street jewellers.

Officers swooped on the Goldsmiths store in Mostyn Street, Llandudno, at about 8.30pm last night (November 12).

Armed police, doghandlers and firefighters attended the incident and a stretch of the street was cordoned off. But it is not believed that any watches, necklaces or other items were taken.

Firefighters reported an alarm going off at Goldsmiths and told police at 8.37pm last night.

Officers went to the scene and found smoke had been activated as part of the security system.

The force spokesman said police have launched an investigation into a suspected break-in and enquiries are ongoing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 16, 2021, 09:52:41 am
A "quantity" of Tag Heuer watches were stolen during a robbery at a North Wales jewellers.

North Wales Police are appealing for witnesses to come forward after a raid at Goldsmiths in Llandudno on Friday night.

The force confirmed that among the items stolen from the Mostyn Street site were a "quantity of Tag Heuer" watches.

The force is asking anyone who may have witnessed the incident to come forward.

They are particularly interested in anyone with dashcam footage, who was in and around the area at the time of the robbery.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/quantity-tag-heuer-watches-stolen-22175670?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/quantity-tag-heuer-watches-stolen-22175670?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 16, 2021, 01:55:47 pm
LLANDUDNO'S first Christmas Extravaganza is almost here.

The event will run on November 18, 19 and 20 from 10am until 9pm and on November 21, from 10am until 5pm.

There will be stalls galore including Anglesey Hog Roast, Nibble Nose Cheese Counter; The Magical Gift Company and Penderyn to name a small few.

Rides, including Miami Trip and Sizzler, will be in place for older children and thrill-seekers to enjoy.

There is also plenty of entertainment.

Dr Diablo will be attending the Extravaganza Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

The opening ceremony on Thursday will feature Ysgol Morfa Rhianedd Choir.

Thursday also includes: Christmas Movie Night Polar Express and a Meet and Greet with Mr and Mrs Claus.

On Friday, there is a November Fest: German Beer, German Sausages and Oompah Stompers.

On Saturday, the line up includes North Wales Rock Choir Stage and Christmas Move Night: Home Alone 2.

And on Sunday, there will be a Best Christmas Costume and Jumper Competition and Magic Light Productions Show before the event concludes.

A spokesperson said: "Join us in the heart of Llandudno to get into the Christmas Spirit."

See full details by searching Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza on Facebook.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 16, 2021, 03:32:23 pm
Update on above......

Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza: Dates, times, parking, road closures and what's there in 2021
The family event will run for four days and will host hundreds of stalls, fairground rides and activities

Christmas markets in North Wales are coming back in a big way this year after Covid-19 restrictions forced many events to cancel back in 2020.

And one of the biggest ones on the North Wales social calendar is the Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza.

The showpiece is billed a free to attend Christmas family event with entertainment, gift stalls, food and drink vendors as well as fairground rides for the kids.

Thousands are expected to attend the four day event with a host of attractions planned by organisers.

The Met Office have forecast temperatures of up to 14C and as low as 9C with some light showers towards the weekend - but the rains isn't set to come until later on in the evenings.

With that in mind, here's everything you need to know about the 2021 Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/llandudno-christmas-extravaganza-dates-times-22176739 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/llandudno-christmas-extravaganza-dates-times-22176739)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2021, 12:57:29 pm
LLANDUDNO'S Christmas Parade will return to the town next month.                 ref Pioneer

The parade will travel from Llandudno Train Station on Saturday, December 4 at 4pm.

The parade usually goes from the railway station, up Vaughan Street, to Mostyn Street, into Lloyd Street, down Madoc Street, Augusta Street and back to the station.


THE Wales Spring Fair returns to Llandudno in January with the hope of boosting the retail industry after a tough 18 months.
Celebrating its 42nd year, the regional show for traders across North Wales and North West England to display tens of thousands of products takes place over three days from January 23-25 at Venue Cymru.

With over 500 tourist attractions and gift shops within a 30-mile radius of Llandudno, the show provides the opportunity for buyers and owners of tourist attractions, independent and multiple retailers, hotels, galleries and garden centres to stock up on the latest items.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19722791.traders-set-venue-cymru-hope-post-pandemic-boost/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19722791.traders-set-venue-cymru-hope-post-pandemic-boost/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 25, 2021, 10:16:45 am
Yesterday we received email correspondence from McCarthy Stone regarding their plans to redevelop Maelgwyn Road Car Park.  For the second time this year, McCarthy Stone are carrying out a Pre-Application Consultation, and intend to submit a formal planning application following the consultation.  We understand that McCarthy Stone will be writing to residents living near the car park over the coming days.

There do not appear to be any significant changes following their previous consultation, carried out earlier this year.  They still intend to build 55 flats on the car park, but provide only 21 car parking spaces, for private residents only.  This leaves 34 flats without car parking space.  The development will also remove the 126 public car parking spaces that the car park currently provides.  That means we could lose 160 car parking spaces near the town centre - and we all know how hard it is to find parking in Llandudno.  The scale of the building will also dwarf other buildings in the immediate vicinity.  It simply isn't right in that location.

We would encourage everyone who is concerned about this development to click here to view McCarthy Stone's proposals and to participate in the consultation.  When submitting a formal planning application McCarthy Stone will have to list the issues raised in the Pre-Application Consultation and explain what steps they are taking to mitigate them.  Even though Conwy County Borough Council's Environment, Roads and Facilities Service are taking steps to safeguard the car park from development, it is still important that you provide your feedback.

VIEW & COMMENT ON THE PLANS  https://mccarthystoneconsultation.co.uk/llandudno/virtual-exhibition/

You can respond to the consultation through McCarthy Stone's website, by emailing    feedback@mccarthystoneconsultation.co.uk     or writing to McCarthy Stone Llandudno Consultation, BECG, Dalton Place, 29 John Dalton Street, Manchester, M2 6FW.  The consultation is open until 22nd December.

Please feel free to email us a copy of your comments at llandudnogogarth@gmail.com.         
          HARRY SAVILLE/LOUISE EMERY

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on November 27, 2021, 10:50:06 am
Devastation in Happy Valley this morning:
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on November 27, 2021, 11:37:11 am
Northerly gales really clobber Llandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 27, 2021, 12:29:55 pm
Lots of serious damage being reported on FB .."You know you are from Llandudno " one in particular, roof collapse.

PS both our land line and mobile services are down.   :(
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 28, 2021, 10:02:58 am
A SOCIAL enterprise in Llandudno is helping keep children in Conwy warm this Christmas through its latest campaign.

Having seen some turn up to the primary school she used to work at without coats during the winter, Ally has been helping distribute coats donated by residents to schools, charities and more across the region.

“We just thought, well, we’re sat here with no proms on or anything, so we did a campaign and started collecting the coats. We’ve had about 100 donated to us so far.

“People donate them to our shops, and we’ve been in touch with all of the local schools, charities, and food banks; we’ve got a referral form, so if anyone needs help with a coat, they just have to fill in that form and then we can get them one.

“The form just asks what size and age children they have, things like that.”

People can get in touch by either donating coats at Prom Ally’s base at 23 Madoc Street, Llandudno (open 10am – 4pm from Tuesday to Saturday), or by emailing: coats4kidsconwy@gmail.com.

Alternatively, for those unable to visit Prom Ally’s shop during its opening hours, Ally added that the Wilko store in Mostyn Champneys Retail Park has also said it will happily accept coat donations (open 9am – 6pm every day apart from Sunday: 10am – 4pm).
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 29, 2021, 05:20:03 pm
Developer urged to withdraw 55 homes plan on Llandudno parking site for cars and campervans
McCarthy Stone want to erect apartments for the over 60s on the Maelgwyn Road car park
An interesting comment from the Senedd member was that she urged the developer to instead reach a deal with Anwyl Homes for the former Gogarth Abbey Hotel site at West Shore, which has been empty for over a decade.  ( it's actually nearer two decades )


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https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/developer-urged-withdraw-55-homes-22311606 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/developer-urged-withdraw-55-homes-22311606)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on December 01, 2021, 05:13:23 pm
Look out for some scenes of Llandudno along with the goats and seagulls in the S4C Christmas promo for 2021.

https://youtu.be/LQKATDrYX8w (https://youtu.be/LQKATDrYX8w)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 02, 2021, 09:47:24 am
If this goes through, will Hondo move, leaving their old site suitable for a new development ?

Eyesore site opposite Llandudno retail park could be redeveloped under plan
An application has been submitted to build on land left empty after a former health clinic was demolished

Now plans have been put in by Mostyn Estates to develop a car showroom on the site.

It would house Honda and Kia brands.

Agent Cadnant Planning said: “The site is currently vacant and considered to detract from the visual amenity of the surrounding townscape.

“The proposal to develop a high quality car showroom at this location represents an opportunity to bring back into use a prominent town centre site.”

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/eyesore-site-opposite-llandudno-retail-22332960?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/eyesore-site-opposite-llandudno-retail-22332960?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like
Post by: SteveH on December 09, 2021, 01:11:23 pm
Plenty of Christmas joy spread as parade returns to Llandudno

RESIDENTS turned out in their droves to enjoy a Christmas parade in Llandudno.

The parade travelled from the Station area along Vaughan Street, into Mostyn Street to Lloyd Street outside the Town Hall on December 4.

Making up the procession was the town crier, Father Christmas, the mayor and Mis Alice, Holy Trinity Church Nativity Float, City of Liverpool Pipes and Drums, Cindy Lou and the Grinch, Llandudno Silhouettes and Marvel Superhero characters to name a few.

cont/photo gallery https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19772930.plenty-christmas-joy-spread-parade-returns-llandudno/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19772930.plenty-christmas-joy-spread-parade-returns-llandudno/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 17, 2021, 10:05:13 am
The Llandudno road dubbed 'Christmas Street' where residents get festive for a good cause
The cul-de-sac has been transformed into a winter wonderland

cont/photos https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-road-dubbed-christmas-street-22407911?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-road-dubbed-christmas-street-22407911?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on December 22, 2021, 08:16:28 pm
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Title: Re: Xmas messages Llandudno/Conwy/Colwyn Bay and Llanfairfechan
Post by: SteveH on December 24, 2021, 10:07:13 am
A Christmas message from your mayor 2021: Conwy, Llandudno, Colwyn Bay and Llanfairfechan

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19802766.christmas-message-mayor-2021-conwy-llandudno-colwyn-bay-llanfairfechan/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19802766.christmas-message-mayor-2021-conwy-llandudno-colwyn-bay-llanfairfechan/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 24, 2021, 11:40:05 am
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 28, 2021, 10:16:04 am
NORTH SHORE PROMENADE SHELTERS
Last month's e-news bulletin touched on the Community Renewal Funding that the UK Government has provided to support some local projects in Conwy.  One of these projects, which is also being funded by Visit Wales, the Welsh tourist board, is the refurbishment of the two, or three, most dilapidated shelters on the North Shore Promenade.

The Victorian style design for these shelters, similar to those on the prom over a century ago, have now been unveiled.  The new shelters will include lighting powered by discreet solar panels which will be fitted flush with the roof line.  This lighting will hopefully discourage antisocial behaviour.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 28, 2021, 10:30:07 am
Still wonder where the money went for these new shelters, that was in a fund a few years ago 🤔, then they were getting funding from the turbine people for them and the paddling pool area, wonder if finch has put the mockers on that.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on December 28, 2021, 10:57:54 am
Still wonder where the money went for these new shelters, that was in a fund a few years ago 🤔, then they were getting funding from the turbine people for them and the paddling pool area, wonder if finch has put the mockers on that.
No reason she'd do that.
The rebuilt shelter at Deganwy is looking the worse for wear already. I seem to recall it cost a small fortune to restore it to it's original state.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 28, 2021, 01:21:21 pm
Hi Dave wasn't it the finch that didn't want anymore turbines buit out at sea, so they have had to cut back on the amount,  oh and if it wasn't for these turbines many lads in this area wouldn't have a decent job. She wants to make her mind up.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 28, 2021, 04:47:34 pm
The scheme has been enthusiastically received by landowners Mostyn Estates, Llandudno Town Council, the town’s Hospitality Association and Development Partnership.

And and the town council and Mostyn Estates have both pledged to make substantial contributions to the cost of seven new shelters, with the initial cost for each estimated at around £50,000.


That was in 2013     

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/going-back-victorian-times-plans-5318345 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/going-back-victorian-times-plans-5318345)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on December 28, 2021, 05:55:42 pm
Yes Hugo that was when the dog would walk for hours, 😂   I got it from a very good scource then. Only 8 years.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 01, 2022, 10:38:00 am
A big thank you to who ever put on the 7.30pm fire work display on top of the Great Orme last night, there was a warning on social media about the display for pet owners, and it was timed for the youngsters, and considering it was privately funded, an excellent display and very entertaining.         
 &well&                     $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Fester on January 01, 2022, 11:39:54 pm
A big thank you to who ever put on the 7.30pm fire work display on top of the Great Orme last night, there was a warning on social media about the display for pet owners, and it was timed for the youngsters, and considering it was privately funded, an excellent display and very entertaining.         
 &well&                     $good$

Yes Steve, it was top notch.
It was held on Mike’s old golf course, and was funded by locals.
Social media comments today were hilarious,  full of mealy mouthed comments about possibly frightening anyone who had served in Afghanistan, had PTSD or nervous cats.
They didn’t know of such a case, they were just moaning in case there were any.
The world is becoming a very sterile place.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on January 02, 2022, 08:46:24 am
Quote
The world is becoming a very sterile place.

In the States they've been ding some detailed investigations into these sorts of comments and have discovered a couple of very interesting things: most of the millions of such comments are generated by a small group of around eight people. They use software to generate such comments automatically.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on January 02, 2022, 10:47:45 am
A big thank you to who ever put on the 7.30pm fire work display on top of the Great Orme last night, there was a warning on social media about the display for pet owners, and it was timed for the youngsters, and considering it was privately funded, an excellent display and very entertaining.         
 &well&                     $good$

Yes Steve, it was top notch.
It was held on Mike’s old golf course, and was funded by locals.
Social media comments today were hilarious,  full of mealy mouthed comments about possibly frightening anyone who had served in Afghanistan, had PTSD or nervous cats.
They didn’t know of such a case, they were just moaning in case there were any.
The world is becoming a very sterile place.

We thought it was amazing and so good that it was at a suitable time for kids. We don't have a dog at the moment , it didn't bother the tortoise, ?{}? but can understand people who's dogs were frightened. We used to turn up the TV or radio for her and give her a hug until it was over, she was petrified, but soon settled. The last dog couldn't have cared less. We were fortunate with him.  From two pensioners, we enjoyed it. Thank you.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 02, 2022, 11:30:43 am
I wish that I could have seen that firework display as it seems really good and full marks to the organisers  as it looks like a lot of their time and money has gone into that display.
It's really nice when people make such an effort for the benefit of others
Fester is spot on with his comments about the world is becoming a very sterile place.     It's so sad when inane comments are made like that, why don't these sad and unhappy people do something more positive with their time?     They could do some constructive voluntary work or even get a job to occupy the time that they seem to be able to waste on making stupid comments online
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like
Post by: SteveH on January 06, 2022, 02:21:43 pm
Drama in skies above North Wales as Boeing jet forced to make dramatic U-turn and fly low over coast
The Air Tahiti Nui plane was en route from Paris to Los Angeles when it was forced to make an unscheduled landing at Manchester Airport

About 45 minutes into the flight, while over Sheffield, the Dreamliner abruptly turned to the west and headed out over the Irish Sea.

It then issued a 7700 squawk code, alerting local air traffic control facilities to some kind of onboard emergency.

After performing a 180-degree turn, the aircraft flew past Llandudno and followed the North Wales coast, passing over Talacre, Flintshire, as it headed to Manchester Airport.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drama-skies-above-north-wales-22661841 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drama-skies-above-north-wales-22661841)
Title: Re: Llandudno .......Gift fair date change
Post by: SteveH on January 13, 2022, 01:20:32 pm
A NEW annual trade show in Llandudno has been postponed by a month due to current Welsh Government COVID-19 restrictions.

The Llandudno Gift Fair will now be held at the four-star St George’s Hotel in Llandudno from February 13-15, and will be open for traders to visit between 9am-5.30pm (9am-4pm on Feb 15).

Initially, it was set to take place from January 16-18, but a maximum of 30 people being allowed to attend indoor events in Wales has caused the rescheduling.

A statement on Llandudno Gift Fair’s website read: “Due to the current Welsh Government COVID-19 restrictions limiting the number of people attending indoor events to a maximum of 30 people, we have taken the decision to revise the dates of the show from the original dates in January to new dates in February.

“We are hopeful that this slight rescheduling of the show will allow enough time for the Welsh Government to ease the current restrictions, allowing the show to continue as planned.”

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19844652.llandudno-gift-fair-forced-reschedule-due-covid-19-restrictions/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19844652.llandudno-gift-fair-forced-reschedule-due-covid-19-restrictions/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 14, 2022, 09:05:13 am
It would nice and refreshing if these " 77 affordable homes "   were just for local people


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-77-new-affordable-homes-22731418 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-77-new-affordable-homes-22731418)
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Post by: SteveH on January 14, 2022, 01:00:44 pm
Welsh Government reviewing Outline Business Case for Llandudno North and West Shore

THE MS for Aberconwy, Janet Finch-Saunders, has secured assurances from the Welsh Government that the Llandudno Flood Alleviation Scheme Outline Business Case (OBC) for works at North Shore and West Shore are being reviewed.

Responding to a letter sent by the MS, the Welsh Government Minister for climate change, Julie James, stated: “I can confirm that the OBC has identified the local authority’s preferred option.

“Officials are reviewing the OBC, and a decision will be made in due course as to whether the scheme should progress to detailed design.”

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19847592.welsh-government-reviewing-outline-business-case-llandudno-north-west-shore/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19847592.welsh-government-reviewing-outline-business-case-llandudno-north-west-shore/)
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Post by: SteveH on January 18, 2022, 01:53:31 pm
Llandudno rugby coaches on poo patrol warn new fence will keep 'lazy' dog owners off pitch
The club has raised health and safety concerns about players having to dodge faeces and litter during matches

Now officials have said enough is enough and are appealing for people to clear up their dog's mess by using the nearby bins that are already provided.

If the problem persists, the club may be forced to build a fence they already have planning permission for to keep "lazy dog owners" away.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-rugby-coaches-poo-patrol-22783584 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-rugby-coaches-poo-patrol-22783584)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 05, 2022, 10:10:46 am
CONWY County Borough Council have announced that work will start on phase two of Llandudno’s Mostyn Street repaving programme later this month.

The second phase will focus on improving pavements on the west side of Mostyn Street, between Gloddaeth Street and Lloyd Street.

Upgrades will include replacing kerbs and pavements, using heritage-style paving slabs up to the shop boundaries.

Harry Saville, Mayor of Llandudno and Councillor for the Gogarth Ward, said: “It is great to see money being spent improving Llandudno and whilst there will still be much more of Mostyn Street to do, this is a big improvement for our high street.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19900187.major-works-begin-main-llandudno-high-street/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19900187.major-works-begin-main-llandudno-high-street/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 08, 2022, 09:08:58 am
Everything we know about major police incident in Llandudno
Arrests were reported later in the town

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everything-know-major-police-incident-23019545 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everything-know-major-police-incident-23019545)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 08, 2022, 10:01:43 am
Fighting goats stopped the traffic at a Llandudno supermarket as furious drivers beeped their horns in a vain attempt to get the animals to move.

A herd of around a dozen animals watched as two angry bucks locked horns at the traffic lights at Asda on Monday, stopping cars entering the shop from Conway Road or leaving the supermarket.

Despite drivers beeping their horns, the Great Orme goats were too busy scrapping or watching the fight to move.

"People were beeping their horns because they couldn't get in or out of Asda. In the end, people just drove around them. You don't expect to see that when you go to pick up your shopping!"

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fighting-goats-stop-traffic-llandudno-23009662#comments-wrapper (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fighting-goats-stop-traffic-llandudno-23009662#comments-wrapper)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 08, 2022, 10:14:27 am
As I was driving down Abbey Road from the West Shore the other day a line of Goats crossed over the road near the school and went down the public footpath into Gladdaeth Avenue.
They were possibly on their way to Asda or just escaping from the sand storm that was blowing down Abbey Road
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 09, 2022, 10:26:48 am
Planning application

Variation of condition nos 6 (Bat Roosting Boxes & Swift Bricks/Boxes) & 8 (Uncontrolled Crossings) of planning approval (Demolition of existing building (A1 use class) and the erection of a four storey apartment block to accommodate 16 affordable housing units together with alterations to existing vehicular access) at 21 Gloddaeth Street, Llandudo, Conwy.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 09, 2022, 01:22:59 pm
How old is ths? The new block is built and occupied !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 09, 2022, 01:52:37 pm
How old is ths? The new block is built and occupied !

I thought the same afterwards, in fact it took awhile to remember that the B&H site had been built on already, but the heading reads

 "Planning applications registered by Conwy County Borough Council up to February 6 "
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 09, 2022, 03:00:05 pm
I can imagine the reaction of the residents if the bats cause ructions ! Enough bother with the goats !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 16, 2022, 09:54:11 am
NEW analysis of Companies House data by Yell Business has revealed that Llandudno is the start-up capital of the UK, with more businesses formed in the Welsh coastal town per capita than anywhere else during 2021.

The report, that looked at every business formed in the UK during 2021, helps to show that, despite another challenging year, the entrepreneurial spirit of the UK is alive and well.

Indeed, more businesses were founded per month in 2021 than in 2020, or even during 2019 before the start of the COVID-19 pandemic.

With an average of 13 per cent more new businesses founded each month in 2021 compared to 2019, the analysis pinpointed which areas of the UK were the most entrepreneurial, by calculating the number of new businesses formed in each location while factoring in population size.

The research shows that big business doesn’t just start in the city; in Llandudno, a total of 16.2 businesses were founded per 100 people in 2021, while Surrey’s Redhill (11.6) and Tunbridge Wells in Kent (10.8 followed.

Cheshire also stands out as being the most entrepreneurial county in the UK, with Chester, Stockport and Warrington all featuring in the top 20.

Further breakdowns of these findings can be found in the full report, published on: www.business.yell.com/sme-insight/the-entrepreneurial-spirit-of-the-uk (http://www.business.yell.com/sme-insight/the-entrepreneurial-spirit-of-the-uk).                     ref pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 17, 2022, 10:54:51 am
Llandudno street blighted by cars crashing into homes wins its bollard battle
Ten have been erected at Churchill Close to stop vehicles careering through walls and even into homes

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-street-blighted-cars-crashing-23111391 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-street-blighted-cars-crashing-23111391)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on February 17, 2022, 01:10:32 pm
Hi Hugo I've just read the post,s story, wish they would get real reporters,  Cllr Ronnie Hughes and Cllr Philip Evans got this sorted for the resident and the resident thanked them both for their help,  you can tell the local elections are coming up finch Saunders trying to be the saviour. The Bollards have been put on the pavement by the bridge not in the close 😂, but in people opinion they have put them in wrong place, nothing new with Ccbc.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 17, 2022, 02:36:42 pm
Didn't an accident happen by the roundabout some time ago and they smashed through the garden wall of one of those houses?


Storm Eunice is on its way so it's a good job CCBC  hasn't done any sand clearance this week.    Oh I forgot, they did some recently    &shake&

Storm Gladys is on its way next so CCBC might as well wait until Easter before they do any more sand clearance
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on February 17, 2022, 07:43:02 pm
Yes this is the one it was and elderly lady this time foot on accelerator instead of brake just about missed the lamppost,  Hugo I was on the westshore this morning you won't be supprised but the sand they cleared is back, a local councilor tacked the county councilor about it he said the sand was contaminated this local councilor followed the wagon guess where it got dumped 🤔   Yes to replenish colwyn bay 😡.     Big storm tomorrow they are telling people to beware of flooding would help if they dredged the drains.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 18, 2022, 10:05:23 am
Crash closes Mostyn Broadway in Llandudno and takes out traffic lights - latest updates
Dramatic pictures show the damage caused after the car ploughed through railings and veered approximately 10 metres before hitting a traffic light

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-llandudno-crash-collision-traffic-23137820 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-llandudno-crash-collision-traffic-23137820)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 18, 2022, 10:22:55 am
It's beyond unbelievable with the CCBC  Norman.        CCBC needs a licence from DEFRA to put the sand back on to the beach below the high water mark and that is the reason why they dumped sand above the high water mark and left the beach sometimes looked like this

I hope that CCBC has got a licence from DEFRA to dump that alleged contaminated sand onto the lovely sandy beach at Colwyn Bay but have they?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 22, 2022, 09:57:16 am
February news from Cllrs. Louise Emery, Greg Robbins and Harry Saville

URBAN TREE PLANTING PROGRAMME
Work is due to start soon on a county borough wide urban tree planting programme.  This programme is part of the council's Biodiversity and Decarbonisation Plans which we supported and were introduced last year.  Following feedback from local residents we've secured several projects around Llandudno:
Llwynon Road:
This project involves planting a new mini-forest on a plot of land next to the Llwynon Road estate.

The Oval & St. Andrew's Avenue:
The project will see trees planted along either side of St. Andrews Avenue, both on part of The Oval and around the Cartrefi Conwy properties.

Lloyd Street:
Historically Lloyd Street was a tree lined road, although all but one of the trees has been removed since 1950.  Being a paved road makes Lloyd Street a challenging location, however, the original "tree pits" are still in situ.  This project will aim to return Lloyd Street to its 1950s appearance.

The projects on Llwynon Road and The Oval & St. Andrew's Avenue are due to start imminently.  Preparatory work will also begin on Lloyd Street, although the trees will likely be planted in late 2022.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SAJ on February 22, 2022, 06:50:04 pm
Lovely, nothing nicer than a tree-lined street. Unless it’s the 1950’s in Sylvia Gardens North and you’ve been tied to one by your big brother and his mate on the way home from school. The tree was their totem pole apparently and I had to wait until two little old ladies came past to be freed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 23, 2022, 09:49:31 am
Ah the good ole days.............  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on February 23, 2022, 10:34:41 am
Hope they protect them, or they will be chewed to bits by the goats !
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 25, 2022, 01:32:02 pm
CALLS have been made for Conwy County Borough Council to decline an application for a housing development on a Llandudno greenspace.

Anwyl Homes’ proposal for 49 new homes, 17 of which will be affordable, has been put forward for land which forms part of a registered historic landscape, at the corner of Bodafon Road and Nant-y-Gamar Road, Craig-y-Don, next to Ysgol Y Gogarth and Llys Gogarth residential facility.

The application will be discussed by the council’s planning committee on Wednesday, March 9.

Numerous concerns have been raised regarding the development, including the potential dangers to wildlife and land at Bodafon Fields.

Others fear the impact it will have on congestion on the roads, as well as at Ysgol Y Gogarth, a school for pupils with special educational needs aged between three and 19.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19952600.fears-llandudno-housing-application-permanently-damage-much-loved-landscape/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19952600.fears-llandudno-housing-application-permanently-damage-much-loved-landscape/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 10, 2022, 07:58:26 am
Plans for 49 homes in Llandudno rejected over fears of impact on school
Anwyl Construction had hoped the build the homes on land in Nant y Gamar Road

Perhaps Anwyl can now concentrate on the Penmorga site instead?         &shake&
As for Mostyn Estates, they are determined to make the farm unviable and get their greedy mitts on the land and build houses there


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-49-homes-llandudno-rejected-23341519 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-49-homes-llandudno-rejected-23341519)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 12, 2022, 10:25:22 am
THE MP and MS for Aberconwy, as well as councillors and a Llandudno resident, have shared their reactions to the rejection of an application to build 49 homes on a Llandudno greenspace.

Aberconwy MS, spoke of her delight at the news, having written three letters outlining planning policy routed reasons as to why the estate should not have the go-ahead.

She said: “Anwyl should have concentrated on building homes in West Shore rather than submit an application for Craig-y-Don which has caused considerable distress.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19987579.aberconwy-mp-ms-react-rejection-llandudno-housing-application/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19987579.aberconwy-mp-ms-react-rejection-llandudno-housing-application/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
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Post by: SteveH on March 16, 2022, 10:01:42 am
A Japanese-speaking aristocrat will open the doors of his stately home to wealthy tourists. It is part of a drive to increase the number of visitors to North Wales from Japan.

One of the highlights of a bespoke trip for the wealthy Japanese visitors will be a guided tour in their own language by Lord Mostyn of his historic 15th century stately home, Mostyn Hall in Flintshire. The 6,000-acre estate also includes the seaside resort of Llandudno which also features as part of The Road of Castles in Wonderland tour which was designed by North Wales Tourism specifically with the Japanese market in mind.

Lord Gregory Mostyn, the 7th Baron Mostyn, is already something of a celebrity in Japan. His family’s close connections with the East Asian country date back to the early 20th century and the fascination of Lady Augusta Mostyn, the daughter in law of the second Baron Mostyn, with all things Japanese.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/aristocrat-open-north-wales-mansion-23402082?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/aristocrat-open-north-wales-mansion-23402082?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 21, 2022, 09:59:07 am
Conwy County Council’s planning department has also received an application for B&Q on Charlotte Road, Llandudno, for permission to erect a temporary standalone office building for the purpose of purchasing used motor vehicles from the public. The purchased vehicles will be stored temporarily until they are moved off-site.          ref DP
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 21, 2022, 10:10:13 am
SteveH, it has already been there for a couple of months.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 21, 2022, 10:15:56 am
Thanks Bri. for the update, first time I've heard about it, seems odd, just buying and not selling cars though?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 21, 2022, 10:27:58 am
We Buy Any Car.

I see it in the B&Q car park when I visit the gym at the swimming pool.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 21, 2022, 10:38:27 am
They have a pickup of the bought cars each week, and they're sent to BCA. WBAC has been  a branch of British Car Auctions since 2013.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on March 21, 2022, 10:39:19 am
Has anyone bought a car from Cinch - yes - then, guess where they get the cars from!

Ian and I posted same time!  Seems we have different answers but my answer came from the horse's mouth (so to speak) when I sold a car to WBAC a coupleof months ago.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 21, 2022, 10:46:42 am
WBAC were previously based at Llandudno football ground
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 21, 2022, 11:55:35 am
Has anyone bought a car from Cinch - yes - then, guess where they get the cars from!

Ian and I posted same time!  Seems we have different answers but my answer came from the horse's mouth (so to speak) when I sold a car to WBAC a coupleof months ago.

It's complicated...(!)  The ultimate owner seems to be TDR Capital (who seem to be intent on taking over the world). The current subs are:

Algeco Scotsman
David Lloyd Leisure
EFR Group
Hurtigruten
Keepmoat
In my humble opinion Car Wash Group
Retirement Advantage
MCS Group
Stonegate Pub Company
Ving Group (20%)
EG Group (50%)
Asda (50%)
Buffalo Grill

But I"d need to examine each one at companies house to discover where BCA are now nesting.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 22, 2022, 10:04:52 am
Todays DP story, sounds like what we discussed yesterday?

A retrospective planning application jas been submitted for a We Buy Any Car office set up on the grounds of a B&Q car park. Agent John Johnson has applied on behalf of Mr Joseph Christian for permission for a temporary office at the B&Q car park on Charlotte Road Llandudno

Whilst the application has been registered with Conwy County Council, it doesn’t mean it will be granted. Conwy’s planning committee, which is made up of councillors, will decide if the application is granted or refused. Council planning officers can also make decisions if they are given delegated authority.

The temporary office, which has been operating for months, was set up on behalf of We Buy Any Car, a service that allows car owners to sell their vehicles for cash. Once sold, the vehicles will be stored temporarily at the car park then moved off site

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/retrospective-planning-bid-buy-any-23458413?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/retrospective-planning-bid-buy-any-23458413?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 29, 2022, 10:06:03 am
Planning application
The proposal is to change the use from A1 Retail to A1 and A3 retail / catering in order to incorporate a coffee shop within the retail store at 127 Upper Mostyn Street, Llandudno.

A search shows B W Ryder & Co Ltd leather goods shop at that address
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 07, 2022, 10:26:14 am
FOR 10 years, North Wales Honda has resided on Mostyn Broadway in Llandudno.

Now with 24 team members, the evolving family business will enter its second decade on Argyll Road, ready for the new era of hybrid and electric cars.

North Wales Honda and Llandudno Kia are part of the newly branded North Wales Motor Company Ltd, but the family of business has branched out from car dealerships and has added a new string to their bow - The Motorsport Lounge.

Led by Dave’s wife Sally, The Motorsport Lounge is a unique themed venue with a stage, bar, conference space and specialist car museum.

Live music is one of the venue’s specialities, with rock performances to jazz nights, and is situated on Builder Street, only a two-minute walk from the dealership.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20045751.north-wales-motor-company-celebrates-10th-birthday-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20045751.north-wales-motor-company-celebrates-10th-birthday-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 09, 2022, 10:10:51 am
Tourism sign review on A55 after Llandudno's attractions wiped off the roadside
The town does not feature on the brown visitor attraction signs near the key junction for the resort

A review of tourism signs on the A55 will be carried out. It follows concerns that Llandudno's attractions had been erased from roadside signs.

Wales's most popular holiday resort did have its attractions promoted on brown signs next to the westbound carriageways near junction 19. But one was blown away in a storm and then another removed and a new sign erected promoting attractions in the Conwy Valley.

It means there are no signs highlighting some of the town's key sites for travellers heading into north west Wales at the junction, which links with the A470.

Nick Jowett, the manager at Great Orme Mines in Llandudno, raised the issue with Aberconwy MS Janet Finch-Saunders. She took it up with Vaughan Gething MS, Minister for Economy in Wales.

Now Lee Waters MS, Deputy Minister for Climate Change, has written to confirm a review will start this month to identify missing signs and action taken to address this in the current financial year.

Mr Jowett said: "We know how important tourism is for Llandudno and so many people travel along this road.

"Having brown signage showing some of the key attractions can give people a reason to turn off and show them some of the sites we have in the town. The more people that come the more everyone benefits too, like restaurants and cafes."

Mrs Finch-Saunders said: "That a brown sign on the main road that brings tourists from across the world to Aberconwy was blown down almost a decade ago and not replaced goes to show how ineffective the Welsh Government is at supporting our tourism sector.

“It is also unacceptable that Welsh Government officials seem to have decided to replace a brown sign with details of attractions in Llandudno, with one only highlighting locations in the Conwy Valley.

“As I made clear to the Minister for Economy, we should have brown signs promoting the amazing experiences on offer in both the Conwy Valley and Llandudno.

“Tourism's value to the local economy in Conwy is estimated to be worth £887.62million. This is thanks largely to the tireless work of the private sector. The least the Welsh Government could do to help them is provide brown signs guiding guests to exciting experiences."

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tourism-sign-review-a55-after-23642960 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tourism-sign-review-a55-after-23642960)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on April 09, 2022, 10:46:23 am

Mrs Finch-Saunders said: "That a brown sign on the main road that brings tourists from across the world to Aberconwy was blown down almost a decade ago and not replaced goes to show how ineffective the Welsh Government is at supporting our tourism sector.


Er..." a brown sign on the main road that brings tourists from across the world to Aberconwy".  Must be a very large sign, then.

"goes to show how ineffective the Welsh Government is at supporting our tourism sector."

Ah.  So now we see it. I'm guessing we will start to see a raft of comments from Tory AMs commenting on how 'dreadful' the Welsh government is, given their national leader is not only a liar but now, it seems, a criminal, although he was apparently totally unaware of the numerous parties happening at Downing St during the first major lockdown, including those he attended.

Johnson would have been gone by now, were it not for Putin invading Ukraine and the pandemic. It's also truly appalling that the national 'leader' was chosen by a very small number of sept-and octogenarian members of the Tory supporters club. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on April 09, 2022, 08:04:45 pm
I think the finch should get onto her chums at Ccbc the big sign. At the bottom of Conwy road near the links they took down over 2 years ago high winds still not been put back, What has she done for Llandudno 🤔. Nothing in all the years she’s been down Cardiff way.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 11, 2022, 02:11:23 pm
Future residents living in 77 new homes proposed for wasteland in Llandudno will be unlikely to be bothered by vibrations from a nearby railway, claims a planning survey submitted by developers. Conwy County Council has received and registered a planning application from Lane End Development Construction Ltd, who submitted the survey measuring vibration levels next to the railway.

The survey follows Lane End Developments Construction Ltd being given unanimous backing by Conwy councillors in January to build 21 houses and 56 apartments on Oxford Road in the centre of Llandudno - you can read more about that decision here. But the developers were told they must provide proof of appropriate vibration levels before they were given the green light, and this application for the removal of the condition will now be considered by Conwy’s planning department.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/complaints-over-llandudno-railway-vibrations-23614719 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/complaints-over-llandudno-railway-vibrations-23614719)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2022, 09:46:19 am
There was a nice clip of Llandudno on the BBC TV this morning and the reporter said that Llandudno is the place to be this weekend

I would imagine that the A55 will be extremely busy if that's the case and best avoided if that is possible

https://traffic.wales/cctv-cameras/a55
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on April 16, 2022, 02:12:54 pm
We had our walk along west shore / invalids walk down church walks then onto prom 11 o’clock not many parking spaces left, town was heaving, let’s hope this is the start of town being busy.  But our council need to sort a park and ride system out.   Going over to Conwy yesterday morning the amount of  traffic by the castle was gridlocked, god help when the flyover is closed for nearly 12 weeks 🤭
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2022, 06:30:02 pm
It's good to hear that the town is busy and I hope that everyone enjoys the Bank Holiday but the parking is a problem.
Don't mention the Park and Ride to Mostyn Estates though as they just want to build houses on the Bodafon Farm.    They have applied before for park and ride buses to go from the farm and have even touted for trams too
I believe that Mostyn Estates would have been granted permission for a Park and Ride in Llanrhos just off the A470 but the Estate just wanted their mitts on the more lucrative Bodafon Farm

I'm pleased that you had an enjoyable walk in this nice weather Norman but hope that you didn't miss the FA Cup semi final on TV.   It was a cracking game between two great teams but on the day the better team won.   I can't wait to see the final        $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 19, 2022, 09:57:18 am
A MAN known for his exceptional knowledge of Llandudno has had tributes paid to him on his 90th birthday.

Tom Parry, a historian who had lived in Llandudno for all of his life until recently moving from his previous home on the Great Orme to Conwy, turns 90 today (April 19).

Tom was also formerly a part of the Great Orme Exploration Society, a group initially set up in 1985 by mine explorers in the area who wanted to study, investigate, and promote the history of “Llandudno's Mountain”, with a particular focus on the old mine workings.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20075708.tributes-paid-superb-ambassador-llandudno-90th-birthday/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20075708.tributes-paid-superb-ambassador-llandudno-90th-birthday/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 19, 2022, 01:55:07 pm
Congratulations to Tom on his 90th birthday        $good$        $walesflag$

If I have wanted to know something about the Great Orme in the past I have always asked Tom and he has given me the answer and helped me to find things.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: OrmeMac on April 20, 2022, 05:00:36 pm
Llandudno Cable Cars to return this weekend after storm damage repairs delayed reopening.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-great-orme-cable-cars-23734397 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-great-orme-cable-cars-23734397)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 26, 2022, 10:08:12 am
Llandudno is to gain a second twin town this summer. The North Wales resort, home to cable cars and a dry ski slope, will sign a twinning agreement with a Swiss village that’s a gateway to the world’s largest international ski area.

A Memorandum of Understanding between Llandudno and Champéry, and its surrounding region of Dents du Midi, was signed on April 1. The arrangement will be formalised in Switzerland on Swiss National Day, August 1, and a similar celebration is due to be held in the Conwy resort on a date yet to be fixed.

Before then, in July, a team of top Swiss skiers is due in Llandudno. Despite the country’s sporting prowess on the slopes, Switzerland lacks dry ski slopes and so its winter athletes aim to get some off-season training on the Great Orme.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-sign-twinning-agreement-swiss-23782804?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-sign-twinning-agreement-swiss-23782804?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 27, 2022, 08:47:33 am
Council say 'no rules were broken' after backlash over Llandudno housing plan vote
Proposals were approved despite half of the planning committee failing to vote on the controversial application

No rules were broken?    I suppose it was all done with integrity too.      Those hollow words seem to be banded about quite often nowadays


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/council-say-no-rules-were-23792330 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/council-say-no-rules-were-23792330)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on April 27, 2022, 09:23:03 pm
Not one councillor on that committee are from Llandudno Hugo, I have asked many times what price do they reckon is affordable,  walking around town lately I fear for the future it is getting run down along mostyn street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on April 27, 2022, 10:31:24 pm
Why be a member of a committee if you are going to abstain - surely every proposal requires every voter to give a yay or nay.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 28, 2022, 09:29:23 am
The Llandudno Councillors should be ashamed of themselves for not voting in that controversial planning application.    I wonder if they also refused to apply for any expenses too.

I'll say it again that Mostyn Estates won't be satisfied unless they have building permission for all that open farm land.   They are trying to make the land unviable for farming.      I would imagine that Mostyn Estates will allow a building application to be made on another part of the land within 5 years and our gutless councilors will do the same again.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 04, 2022, 01:36:10 pm
A 12-year-old boy accused of 19 offences in a £9,000 crime spree was “a good kid really”, his mum told a youth court. He received a nine months referral order for his crimes.

Court chairwoman Ann Dickinson told the youngster at Llandudno Magistrates' Court :”It’s your first time in court for sentencing. Custody isn’t an option at this stage.”

No compensation was awarded. The boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, admitted a £5,000 burglary at B&M Mobiles and Computers shop in St George’s Place, Llandudno, when “vapes” were among his haul.

READ MORE: 'Unsophisticated' trio hid £5.5m cocaine shipment behind yoghurt and juice

He also admitted a catalogue of thefts from shops, threatening behaviour, harassment at a block of flats and a shop, £4,000 criminal damage at Llandrillo yn Rhos infants school, and common assault at a store.

Defence lawyer Hannah Davies said social services had become involved and the boy was sorry for his behaviour. “He doesn’t know why he does it,” she remarked. “There has been a lot of difficulty getting him to see the consequences of his actions.”

Many of the offences involved young boys misbehaving. But her client had been on police bail and had settled down since being banned from associating with some other youngsters.

The court chairwoman told the boy :”You went on an offending spree through February and March. We need to prevent further offending or it’s going to get worse and worse for you.”

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mum-mini-crime-wave-who-23858367 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mum-mini-crime-wave-who-23858367)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 04, 2022, 01:58:24 pm
If the lad had been allowed to stay in England where he was doing well school wise he wouldn’t have done all this 🥲
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 11, 2022, 09:48:33 am
A private school in Llandudno plans to demolish its sports hall to make way for a new performing arts centre as part of a £15m redevelopment plan. St David’s College has applied to Conwy County Council for planning permission to demolish its sports hall.

The removal of the sports hall is being hailed as the first step in a £15m refurbishment project at the school on Wormhout Way that will see new facilities across the whole site. But the arts centre itself won’t be built immediately following the building being demolished – if the plans get the go-ahead.

In a supporting letter to Conwy County Council’s planning department, the school revealed that, in the short term, restoration work will be carried out following demolition, in which a base slab will remain. This will be fenced off until a second planning application is submitted for a temporary seating area.

The school then plans to use the location as an outdoor seating area in the medium term, providing an area for pupils to sit and enjoy outdoor lessons during warmer weather. But in the longer term, the school has revealed it plans to build a new performing arts centre, in which "the design aspect of the building will be vitally important to ensure it fits into the historic surroundings".

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-private-school-plans-build-23906894?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-private-school-plans-build-23906894?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 12, 2022, 02:13:57 pm
Speaking with friends over the weekend, we discussed the lack of a market in Llandudno, many years ago their was a plan to open one in  the car park adjacent to Wetherspoons  http://www.northwales.com/exciting-new-market-day-coming-to-llandudno/ (http://www.northwales.com/exciting-new-market-day-coming-to-llandudno/) but nothing came of it, I think a market it would be a great asset to the town ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 12, 2022, 02:37:05 pm
It sounds like a reversal role with  that idea because years ago there was a market behind Wetherspoons but that was demolished to make way for a car park
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on May 12, 2022, 03:41:01 pm
I think use of the car park has been discussed a few times over the years but ERF department always seemed keen to keep the car park revenue coming in!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on May 12, 2022, 06:53:18 pm
The indoor market was knocked down for the car park...it was dry all year round in there when I was a child!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on May 13, 2022, 10:08:30 am
I remember there was a shoe repair/cobblers shop in the market that Uncle Hugh from Tan Y Wal, Penrhynside used to work in occasionally. Not sure but think he was related to whoever ran the shop.
Anyone one old enough to remember it ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 14, 2022, 09:39:48 am
Luxury cruise ship anchored off Llandudno with passengers brought ashore to explore local area           ref DP
The MV Sea Spirit is on a UK tour and spent the day between the Great and Little Orme headlands

Passengers on the Poseidon Adventures tour were taken by tender to the shore. They were then given the opportunity to either spend time in the town or head to Conwy Castle and Snowdonia.

The ship left the resort in the early evening and is now heading into the Irish Sea towards Northern Ireland. Work has been going on in recent years to boost cruise ship visits to North Wales with Holyhead now a key stop-off on most tours of the Uk and Ireland.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 18, 2022, 09:55:25 am
Plans for a campervan site in Llandudno have been opposed by the town council. An application has been submitted to Conwy County Council’s planning committee for permission for a certificate allowing a small campervan site at Tan Yr Allt in Craig y Don.

Paul Collins has written to the council hoping he can make a small profit by allowing as many as five campervans to use his land at one time. But, despite the plans being relatively small-scale, a neighbour has objected to his proposals as well as the town council.

In a letter of objection to Conwy’s planning committee, Llandudno Town Council wrote: “Recommended refusal on the grounds that the location is unsuitable for a camper van site due to concerns that the road infrastructure would be unable to accommodate this type of traffic."

cont    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-campervan-site-plans-opposed-23981597?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-campervan-site-plans-opposed-23981597?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 25, 2022, 09:22:39 am
LLANDUDNO Town Council has announced plans to light a Beacon for The Queen’s Platinum Jubilee on the evening of Thursday, June 2.

The Beacon is one of thousands being lit in the UK and the Commonwealth, and forms part of the official programme announced by Buckingham Palace for the Jubilee Weekend.

The Beacon will be lit at The Bandstand, the Promenade, Llandudno, and it will be one of over 2,022 lit by charities, communities and faith groups all over the UK.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20160991.llandudno-light-beacon-queens-jubilee/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20160991.llandudno-light-beacon-queens-jubilee/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2022, 02:51:10 pm
A Llandudno-based construction company has been shortlisted for ‘Fit-out/Refurbishment of the Year’ at Insider Wales’ Property Awards 2022.

Bearmont Construction headed a £250,000 renovation project to completely convert Knightsbridge House Boutique, a Grade II listed retail unit over five floors into specialist shops and a three-bedroom luxury flat.

Working to transform the dated building, Bearmont Construction refurbished the external facade and renovated and secured all marble and bronze elements.

Located in the Llandudno Conservation Area, the former family business, David Roberts Shoes, had been established for over 100 years, so it was important to achieve a balance between the planner’s new ideas, and the listing restrictions involved when creating a rejuvenated new space.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20170770.llandudno-company-shortlisted-property-awards/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20170770.llandudno-company-shortlisted-property-awards/)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 07, 2022, 01:04:40 pm
A 10-year regeneration plan is set to be developed for Llandudno. Conwy County Borough Council has commissioned global firm Mace Consult Ltd to help draw up the blueprint to guide investment over the next decade.

This work has been supported via Transforming Towns funding from Welsh Government. The local business community, Llandudno Town Councillors, County Councillors and key stakeholders have been invited to an event at Venue Cymru today to give their views.

This will feed into the ?Llandudno 10 Year Regeneration Plan? which will be drawn up after local consultation. A spokesperson for the local authority said: ?Conwy County Borough Council recently commissioned Mace Consult Ltd to develop a 10 Year Regeneration Plan for the town that will shape and influence regeneration and investment activity in Llandudno for the next 10 years, and support further community consultation and funding applications.?

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/10-year-regeneration-plan-set-24161895
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: wrex on June 07, 2022, 09:15:17 pm
Now the Welsh gov has passed the finance plan put forward by CCBC to restore the groynes on North shore.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 07, 2022, 10:53:35 pm
Busy Llandudno road shut after '5ft deep' sinkhole appears
The road was shut by police after the sinkhole was spotted


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/busy-llandudno-road-shut-after-24169640
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on June 08, 2022, 09:05:54 am
I know this is an obvious joke, but couldn't resist ...

A big hole has appeared in the road - the council are looking into it.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 08, 2022, 09:44:21 am
Footage shows the moment two huge RAF aircraft were spotted flying low over the coast of North Wales. RAF C130 Hercules Jigsaw-1 and Jigsaw-2 were captured flying over the Conwy estuary before circling over Llandudno.

The C130 Hercules planes could be seen gliding through the sky after being tracked on flightradar traveling from their base in Carterton on Tuesday, June 7 as part of what's believed to be a routine training exercise.

The impressive aircraft from RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire had been flying over North Wales between 9pm and 9.30pm, as part of essential roll check training. This type of training makes sure crews are "ready and able to deploy on global operations".

cont/ video https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/two-huge-raf-aircraft-spotted-24170134?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 15, 2022, 01:52:09 pm
A winter wage subsidy saw more than 40 workers paid by a UK fund in a bid to recruit and retain staff for the tourism and hospitality sectors in Llandudno - and will be extended this autumn. The project saw ?210,000 of its budget spent between February and May - with 22 applications from businesses approved.

It will roll out across Conwy county from October to December - but funding will then come to an end. The scheme - a partnership between Busnes@llandrillomenai and Mostyn Estates - is part of an ?825,000 tourism project backed by the UK Government?s Community Renewal Fund.

The idea with the wage subsidy was that as well as helping keep and recruit staff it would allow them to undertake additional tasks and develop new ideas. Jim Jones, chief executive at North Wales Tourism, said: ?I?m pleased to see that common sense has prevailed and the wage subsidy that Llandudno businesses have been getting is being rolled out to the rest of the Conwy County businesses.

read more..... https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-winter-wage-subsidy-roll-24233321
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?........Llandudno Hospital
Post by: SteveH on June 16, 2022, 09:46:46 am
THE operating theatre at Llandudno General Hospital has reopened in an important step towards reducing the number of patients waiting for surgical procedures.

The unit reopened during May 2022 and treats day surgery patients, meaning that the patient does not need to stay overnight.

Hernia, gallbladder and some orthopaedic procedures are now being carried out in the theatre to help increase the capacity available to treat more patients waiting for operations.

Graham Whiteley, clinical lead for surgery at Ysbyty Gwynedd, who has used Llandudno Hospital operating theatres for more than 20 years, welcomed the reopening of the facility.

He said: ?Llandudno Theatre is the ideal setting for day case surgery when combined with the ward facilities within the hospital.

?Patients value the relaxed atmosphere at Llandudno Hospital when they are going through the anxious time associated with surgery.

?A high throughput of surgery is possible when the theatre is used efficiently.

?I have found Llandudno to be a useful safety valve when beds at Ysbyty Gwynedd are unavailable for whatever reason.?

read more   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20213946.llandudno-hospitals-operating-theatre-re-opens-patients/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...who owns the old M&S
Post by: SteveH on June 17, 2022, 09:30:25 am
Who owns Llandudno's former Marks and Spencer site as bid made for transformation cash ?

M&S had owned the site and it had been understood it would go into the hands of Llandudno Retail Park Ltd once the retailer moved to Parc Llandudno.

Land Registry papers show the M&S site was sold in May for ?3m - two months after the relocation. The registered owner is Stadium Parkgate (Holdings) Limited - a retail property investment company based in East Yorkshire. It is under the control of SPH 2011, which is part of the billionaire Healey family's business empire. The family developed the sprawling Meadowhall Centre shopping park in Sheffield.

Stadium Parkgate (Holdings) had previously had the controlling interest in Llandudno Retail Park Ltd (recently changed to LSVAF II EMU (Llandudno), but this transferred to Jersey based Lsvaf Ii Emu Investments Ltd in February.

read more   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/who-owns-llandudnos-former-marks-24243384?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on June 17, 2022, 10:03:45 am
Thanks for posting this Steve.  I watched the Cabinet meeting which was held on Tuesday where Jane Richardson, Director of Economy & Place, refused to say who owned the building on grounds it was commercially confidential!!!  Odd response given the info is in the public domain. Incidentally, Jane Richardson has the time to spend as chair of Cadw which is good as she must be one of the very few North Walians to be on a Cardiff Bay Quango.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 19, 2022, 01:26:28 pm
Police and paramedics join air ambulance as Great Orme rescue efforts escalate
Cliff rescue teams are also now at the scene near Llandudno to attend the 'ongoing incident

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-wales-air-ambulance-lands-24266282
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 21, 2022, 12:46:07 pm
The location for a gym group's first health and fitness complex has been revealed as plans go in. North Wales Live reported this spring that PetPlace owner Sion Pritchard and personal trainer Rich Blake had launched LVL5 Gyms Ltd.

Now the new group has submitted plans for its first complex. The application is in for the former Honda showroom on Mostyn Broadway in Llandudno after the franchise relocated to another site in town.

If approved by Conwy council the new 1,100sqm site next to Venue Cymru is expected to employ at least 10 staff. It will provide a state-of-the-art gym alongside sauna areas and a smoothie shop.

read more   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/first-north-wales-location-new-24278132
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 22, 2022, 05:25:56 pm



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-amid-large-24296520
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 22, 2022, 05:27:39 pm
Air ambulance among large emergency response to Llandudno incident
Land ambulances and police are also on the scene


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-amid-large-24296520
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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...Old M&S shop
Post by: SteveH on June 25, 2022, 09:36:46 am
Mostyn Estates have now bought up the former Marks and Spencer site in Llandudno - and talk about their ambitious plans for the site. The retailer moved from the prominent Mostyn Street site this spring and relocated to the old Debenhams unit on Parc Llandudno.

They sold the site for ?3m and Land Registry papers showed its new owner was Stadium Parkgate (Holdings) Limited - a retail property investment company that until recently had held the controlling interest at Parc Llandudno.

But Mostyn Estates have now confirmed that they've bought the property off Stadium. This comes as a bid is submitted by Conwy council for UK Government Levelling-Up funds to transform the site into a food and leisure destination, and business hub.

Read more  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mostyn-estates-confirm-theyve-now-24318414?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 16, 2022, 10:03:50 am
Exciting live music events and venue hire in the heart of Llandudno

The Motorsport Lounge (part of the ?North Wales Motor Company? group) is a multipurpose live music venue and events space that accommodates live bands (tribute bands and touring original material bands), private parties, car club meetings, conferences and educational classes.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20282543.exciting-live-music-events-venue-hire-heart-llandudno/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 24, 2022, 10:18:14 am
How the world's 'other' Llandudno compares to North Wales' famous seaside town
Experts in North Wales and South Africa give verdicts on how the resorts shape up against each other

Love them or tolerate them, the Great Orme goats have helped to popularise Llandudno throughout the UK and around the world. A Google search for "Goat Town" will bring up umpteen articles about how the wild goats - the first pair were a gift from Queen Victoria - took over its deserted streets during the coronavirus lockdown.

But not everyone knows that there's another Llandudno - in Cape Town, South Africa. So how do the two towns compare? We asked the experts.

History
Llandudno, North Wales:Llandudno developed as a tourist resort in the late 19th Century. Much of the town was and still is owned by the Mostyn family. One of its most illustrious early visitors was Elisabeth, the Queen of Roumania, in 1890. She visited Gloddaeth Hall, attended Llanrhos Parish Church and travelled to Bangor to attend the National Eisteddfod. More recent visitors have included David Cameron, Theresa May and Boris Johnson.

Llandudno, South Africa: A City of Cape Town Government spokesman told North Wales Live: "On September 26, 1903, the valley was declared a township and named Llandudno after the North Wales seaside resort of Llandudno which means 'Parish of Saint Tudno' in the Welsh language The striking similarities between Kleinkommetjie Bay in which the valley resides and Llandudno in Wales were noted as reasons for choosing this name."

Read more https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/how-worlds-other-llandudno-compares-24520873?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 25, 2022, 10:10:28 am
Llandudno Penderyn distillery to sell whisky made using water from nearby Great Orme
The site has welcomed 25,000 visitors in its first year

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-penderyn-distillery-sell-whisky-24544470?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 31, 2022, 10:39:06 am
WE asked Llandudno residents which shop they would most like to see on the town?s high street, and these were some of the answers.

Vena Carole Higginson and Amy Jo said a Nando?s would be a welcome addition, while Adam Tinsley needed ?Somewhere that offers alternative clothing/music?.

Gillian Jones said she would like to see the home store Lakeland, and Loz Drewitt felt an Ann Summers would be handy in the town.

Martin Adams called for a HMV or Fopp, stating that ?any shop that sells music, vinyl, CDs, cassettes, clothing? was a good option.

Dave Dawson wanted to see a Burger King, Krispy Kreme Caf? and Lacoste in the town, while Tony Gale said a ?German kebab shop?.

Karen Butterworth called for a Slug & Lettuce to further diversify the array of bars in the town, while other restaurant picks included Wagamama, Taco Bell, Wok and Go, and a ?cookie dispensary?.

Other choices included Nike and H&M, with Grace Kay just wanting ?Preferably one whose shelving doesn't give me electric shocks!?
ref pioneer

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 10, 2022, 01:28:45 pm
A REPORT from personal alarm provider TakingCare Personal Alarms has rated Llandudno as the best UK town or city for people to retire to.

Following audits across a range of cost, health and lifestyle factors, the seaside town claimed the top spot thanks to the elevated quality of life it offers to people aged 65 or older.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20615516.llandudno-crowned-number-one-place-uk-retire-new-study/

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2022, 04:28:00 pm
Blink and you missed them, I did'nt blink........The Red Arrows just passed overhead, it always brings a smile to see and hear them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 12, 2022, 10:06:31 am
Update on above......

10 PICTURES: Red Arrows deliver stunning display over North Wales

THE Red Arrows delighted residents of North Wales yesterday afternoon (August 11) as they flew over the region as part of their RAF Valley flypast.

This was part of the RAF's aerobatics team's RAF Shawbury to North Wales, and then to Lincoln, flypast, for the late afternoon and evening yesterday.

The Red Arrows were seen over the Great Orme of Llandudno at about 4.20pm, and from Conwy Morfa beach, before arriving at RAF Valley in Holyhead for their display as part of RAF Families Day.

cont plus photo gallery  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20624872.pictures-red-arrows-deliver-stunning-display-north-wales/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on August 13, 2022, 12:56:05 am
Blink and you missed them, I did'nt blink........The Red Arrows just passed overhead, it always brings a smile to see and hear them.

So happy we saw them go over, i have fond memories of seeing them in LL in the 80s, and i think it was 1990 they did a great display over north shore, got some pictures somewhere. So i was well chuffed my little boy got to (briefly) see the red arrows fly over West Shore and the orme :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 19, 2022, 10:37:14 am
A FB photo of Llandudno at the weekend........  &shake&
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 22, 2022, 05:51:21 pm
Plan to return Llandudno's 'lost' sandy beach hits major setback
Welsh Government officials have 'serious reservations' about the ?24m scheme





https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plan-return-llandudnos-lost-sandy-24819947
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 23, 2022, 10:10:02 am
Not what a lot of people wanted to hear, I read the article in the Pioneer earlier, and that seemed more informative, but still the same result, I did like the idea of increasing the inner sea wall height though.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20712294.welsh-government-block-return-sand-llandudnos-north-shore-beach/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 23, 2022, 12:15:24 pm
Reading the link again it seems that if blame is to be apportioned then we should be looking nearer home.      The incompetence of the CCBC has got us in to this situation and if any Councillor who voted for the sea defences at the North and West Shores are still on the Planing Committee then perhaps they should consider resigning from their position.    Those Councillors by their errors of judgment have cost the County millions of pounds.
Quote from the link   
The option most widely supported by residents, visitors, business owners and the previous local authority administration is to see the sand that has been covered by thousands of tonnes of quarry stone restored.

?It is clear that, once again, the Welsh Labour Government, in Cardiff Bay, is failing the people of Aberconwy and North Wales.

?They have simply chosen to ignore the need of our tourism sector here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 23, 2022, 02:51:30 pm
This may seem a simple solution, but could they not "re-position" the boulders to form groynes extending out into the bay at regular intervals.

Removing the boulders could (should?) reveal the sand - and if not enough then Colwyn Bay seems to have found a good source for the stuff.

But I know nothing about civil engineering - perhaps I should be on the Planning Committee!

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2022, 10:09:04 am
I have heard that although the new restrictions on Gloddaeth Ave. have helped, they have realised that the previous restricted side streets are not being enforced, and parking of these vehicles has increased, please note council members.

Restrictions on Llandudno road plagued by campervans and motorhomes improving life for residents
Residents say problem the ban on overnight parking has addressed the issues they were having

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/restrictions-llandudno-road-plagued-campervans-24863365
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...FIRE
Post by: SteveH on September 02, 2022, 12:09:10 pm
11:15 EVENT
Fire confined to 'bed clothes' with 'smoke logging' to other rooms
North Wales Fire and Rescue have released this update:

We are currently in attendance at a hotel building in Llandudno having been called at 8.59hrs  Gloddaeth St - fire on first floor and all occupants evacuated safely. Fire is now out and confined to bedclothes with some smoke logging to other rooms. Ambulance are also in attendance to check occupants for smoke inhalation as a precaution. 2 appliances and an aerial ladder platform attended  2 appliances remain at the scene.

11:29
Incident is over but firefighters remain
The fire service has confirmed the "stop message" for this incident came in at 10.18am today, meaning the incident was over.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-llandudno-travelodge-evacuated-emergency-24912233
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 02, 2022, 03:58:06 pm
Update on above

Pictures show emergency services at scene of Llandudno Travelodge

Photo gallery  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/pictures-show-emergency-services-scene-24912507
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Helig on September 05, 2022, 11:10:48 am
I didn't quite know which board to put this on so here goes. In last Saturday's edition of the I newspaper (the mini Independent) there was a full page on Llandudno as a holiday resort. It was good coverage and featured the places to visit, restaurants etc. It was very positive and spoke well of the town.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 07, 2022, 06:59:03 pm
'Absolute mayhem' on Llandudno's Great Orme as drivers tailgate trams to dodge tourism gridlock
Police have warned they will crack down on motorists who use Llandudno's tram track as a shortcut


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/absolute-mayhem-llandudnos-great-orme-24954113
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? .... Conwy's Moterhome parking problem
Post by: SteveH on September 10, 2022, 10:20:23 am
Fed-up residents sick of motorhomes parking by homes and beaches - with possible 'win-win' solution
The county council is considering whether to expand motorhome facilities to ease problems and boost the local economy

In a bid to find solutions, an online workshop for residents was hosted by Conwy Council on Friday. At the heart of the issue is a shortage of suitable parking, the potential income available and the impact on local campsites.

When the residents? workshop was announced on Facebook, it unleashed a torrent of concern over the activities of some visitors. ?Campervan parked outside my house tonight with two men in!? said one woman. ?Told them earlier they couldn?t stay overnight but they?re still there.?

A former campervan owner sympathised. ?It?s the same as where my sister lives on the Little Orme (in Llandudno). People just assume you can park in front of houses, across drives and on pavements,? she said.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fed-up-residents-sick-motorhomes-24970134?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 11, 2022, 10:20:33 am
The new 'Welsh Riviera' beach has left jealous neighbouring resort asking 'where's our sand'
Rhos-on-Sea and Colwyn Bay seafronts have been transformed with thousands of tonnes of sand but Llandudno's North Shore remains rocky

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-welsh-riviera-beach-left-24962430
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 11, 2022, 05:23:34 pm
The Councillors for Llandudno and Colwyn Bay are on the same Planning Committee at CCBC so why has Llandudno lost out to Colwyn Bay?
The Councillors of Llandudno are a disgrace and there is no other word for it.    There is no pride or passion amongst them and when it comes to a controversial matter they will either abstain from voting or just not turn up for that crucial meeting that may be important for Llandudno.     
So many crucial mistakes and no common sense or logic attached to their decisions.     Take the West Shore for instance, building that sea defence in 1993 and that cycle track, then there is the saga of the Penmorfa Hotel
Then there is the North Shore where they dumped all that quarry waste. no wonder the Welsh Office are digging their heels in.    If the Councillors had not made that ill fated decision to dump the quarry waste then Llandudno may have had a more favorable decision from the Welsh Office
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 12, 2022, 10:22:55 am
Eyesore site next to a retail park in Llandudno tipped for unit go-ahead
The site opposite Parc Llandudno has already been cleared and planners have recommended approval of a new showroom

The redevelopment of an eyesore site opposite Parc Llandudno has been tipped to move ahead. The land on the corner of Argyll Road in Llandudno had previously housed a health clinic.

This was closed by the health board and the clinic building was later demolished. Plans were submitted last year by Mostyn Estates to develop a car showroom on the site. It would house Honda and Kia brands.

Now planning officers are recommending the scheme gets approved by councillors. The planning committee was due to meet on Wednesday to discuss the proposal but this meeting has been postponed following the death of the Queen.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/eyesore-site-next-retail-park-24971439?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2022, 10:59:11 am
WE asked Pioneer readers what they thought was the one thing missing from Llandudno town centre, and these were some of their thoughts.

Marissa Williams believes one welcome addition would be a market, adding that ?as Llandudno is a holiday resort a Saturday Market is a great thing and lots of holidaymakers love a good market to wander around ? it would be lovely to buy meat, fruit, fish and local produce?.

Jane Bradley called for an ice rink or roller skating rink, with Katie Warburton echoing these thoughts and calling for a dance hall and sea life centre.

Bethan Wynne-Jones feels that ?craft guild centres? and independent stores are needed, while Martin Adams backed the independent route, calling for a ?decent record store that also sells clothing, games and music/movie memorabilia, but not HMV!?

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/21563607.one-thing-readers-think-missing-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 17, 2022, 10:25:56 am
A PROPERTY in Llandudno will feature in the final of Wales? Home of the Year tomorrow (September 16) competing against four other homes across Wales.

The Victorian detached home was crowned the winner in the third episode of the series focussing on North West Wales.

The BBC programme is a six-part series that began on Friday, 12 August, and weatherman, drummer and fashionista Owain Wyn Evans was joined by interior designer Mandy Watkins, and architect Glen Thomas to judge the homes in the region.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/21644062.llandudno-victorian-townhouse-home-year-gong/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2022, 01:02:17 pm
That's an interesting TV programme Steve.     I watched it when it won as it featured a house in Gannock Park that I once viewed .     It was on sale at ?50K c1985 but a few years ago it was on sale again at over ?800K,   if only comes to mind
On BBC I Player there is a similar programme on in Scotland and that's also well worth watching
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 18, 2022, 04:00:15 pm
Looking at Rightmove today it's amazing how many properties are priced at over ?1,000,000. It was unheard of just a few years ago.
One in particular caught my eye. The owners had it built it only a few years ago and in the process of creating the views it enjoys today devastated a hillside of it's trees and and no doubt happily took a ?10k fine for doing so illegally. Their flashing Christmas light show was in poor taste and so is the name of the property.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 18, 2022, 04:30:29 pm
Yes, Dave.

From CyD you can actually see two properties up on Nant-y-Gamar Road which have managed to lose a few trees in recent times.

Yes, one of them is for sale and another property is currently up for sale at a similar price situated immediately behind the Craigside Inn.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 19, 2022, 08:37:57 am
Yes, Dave.

From CyD you can actually see two properties up on Nant-y-Gamar Road which have managed to lose a few trees in recent times.

I seem to recall an order to replant 270 trees was made along with the fine. Buyer beware the view will disappear in years to come.
Meantime the new owners can think of a more appropriate name than the tacky and arrogant LLamedos.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 19, 2022, 02:54:50 pm
A fine of 10K doesn't seem a lot for all the damage that the person caused.     In Sandbanks someone cut down one tree with a TPO because it was spoiling their view and the tree was in their neighbour's garden!
This illegal act was done at 3.00am and the perpetrator was fined ?75K  The Council decided that the property had increased in value by ?75K and fined the guy ?75K accordingly.
But then they didn't have a Council like our CCBC
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 24, 2022, 10:22:35 am
Cllr Dave Jones could have been a bit more diplomatic, as he is claiming incoming retirees bring nothing to the area, I have said before, that I have had to employ most trades on renovation work and use all the local shops and services, which helps keep the younger generation working, and even as I post this we have a local building firm in.   $angry$

 Nine tourism ideas for Llandudno to prosper 'without becoming another Rhyl'
A Conwy councillor shared his own ideas for the seaside town while expressing concerns over 'bedsit blight' and an OAP 'drain on services'


read more  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/nine-tourism-ideas-llandudno-prosper-25076728
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on September 24, 2022, 12:09:17 pm
Cllr Jones represents the Junction; it would be interesting to know what the current crop of Llandudno CB Councillors think.  I believe many local voluntary groups and charitable bodies find that their activities are greatly helped by retirees from outside the area who bring knowledge and skills not otherwise readily available.  People retiring to the seaside is not solely a Llandudno phenomenon and has been the way of life for generations.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 25, 2022, 10:05:46 am
Whether you like Cllr Dave Jones' comments or not, at least he is not afraid to express his opinion, unlike any Llandudno Councillor who has allowed the CCBC to damage Llandudno's popular attractions.
People who retire to Llandudno from outside the area  in many instances create a valuable contribution to the town,     However affordable homes and in particular Social Housing should be for the benefit of local people or people who have resided in the area for many years.

I've experienced it with Llandudno UDC  many years ago when unemployed people from inner cities got preferential treatment to council housing at the expense to young people who lived in the town all their life.   I just hope that this practice has now stopped
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 28, 2022, 10:36:06 am
Controversial plan to turn Llandudno B&B into bedsit returns to planning committee
Councillors are set to debate the controversial application again

A controversial planning application to convert a former Llandudno bed and breakfast into a bedsit will again come before Conwy?s planning committee this week. In August, councillors threw out a planning application to convert the Mayfair on Deganwy Avenue into a house of multiple occupation (HMO).

But Conwy County Council received dozens of letters from concerned hoteliers fearing problems with anti-social behaviour, drug use, and police visiting the area. The council also came under fire for continuing to use the site to temporarily house homeless people, despite temporary planning permission to operate as an HMO expiring on July 5.

But councillors will again discuss the matter on Wednesday afternoon (September 28) when the planning committee meet at Bodlondeb. That?s because, although councillors have already rejected the plans, councillors must reaffirm their decision after going against council planning officers? advice.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/controversial-plan-turn-llandudno-bb-25110246?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on September 28, 2022, 12:19:02 pm
I wonder if we will be entertained by a Kafqaesque situation whereby a brave (?) CCBC officer will appeal against a decision of their own Planning Committee ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 30, 2022, 10:17:11 am
I wonder if we will be entertained by a Kafqaesque situation whereby a brave (?) CCBC officer will appeal against a decision of their own Planning Committee ?

a brave (?) CCBC officer. ...........Well not yet anyway...............                    ref pioneer

PLANS to convert a Llandudno bed and breakfast into council-run bedsits were again thrown out at a planning meeting today ? despite the homeless situation being described as dire.

Because committee members went against planning officers advice, the application returned to todays agenda where councillors had to reaffirm their previous decision before the rejection was confirmed.

But the debate again ensued, and councillors heard the homeless situation remained dire.

Cllr Mandy Hawkins proposed councillors reaffirmed their decision.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/22900393.controversial-llandudno-bedsit-plans-thrown/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 30, 2022, 04:12:56 pm
I've just looked at the West Shore web cam and it looks like the coast is getting a bit of a battering,    From the way that the flags are flying about the wind is blowing from the South or South East.
Here in Colwyn Heights it has been rough all day with heavy rain and high winds, the rain has stopped for now but the wind is still strong but hopefully will die down soon

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hurricane-ian-live-updates-storm-25135878


Title: Re: Llandudno ........Coastal defences at North Shore and West Shore
Post by: SteveH on October 01, 2022, 10:15:00 am
THE cabinet of Conwy County Borough Council (CCBC) has backed plans to improve coastal defences at Llandudno?s North Shore beach without the addition of sand.

At a meeting on Tuesday, September 27, the cabinet approved its support of the option to modify and extend the existing dwarf wall to the rear of the promenade at North Shore.

At West Shore, these plans will involve the modification and extension of the existing rear wall between, Gloddaeth Avenue and the Welsh Water pumping station.

A full business case, as requested by the Welsh Government?s Flood and Coastal Erosion Risk Management (FCERM) branch, and which is in line with Coastal Risk Management Programme (CRMP) guidance, will now be submitted.

In August, Welsh Government rejected CCBC?s proposal for funding to see sand returned to North Shore beach.

The schemes at both North and West Shore are expected to benefit a combined 5,307 properties

Read more  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/22872564.conwy-cabinet-supports-non-sand-option-llandudnos-north-shore-beach/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2022, 12:33:55 pm
No surprises here and you can only blame CCBC  and the Llandudno Councillors for the present situation.        If  only CCBC had not carried out the ill fated West Shore sea defence in the 1990's and not put quarry waste on the North Shore then Llandudno would indeed have qualified for the funding.
Hindsight doesn't come in to it, Llandudno locals ( not Councillors ) warned the Council of the consequences of their actions before work had even started on those two ill thought out schemes
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on October 01, 2022, 01:37:48 pm
Hugo problem is/ was not a county councillor for the last so many years have been from Llandudno,  the councillors and residents down there can?t see they did wrong,    No no it?s not down to the work they did,  umm how come it didn?t happen before. One resident on a forum told me I didn?t know what I was talking about,  ( thought I wasn?t from the area ). I came back with our history penmorfacottages etc, soon shut her up,  it?s the same on north shore didn?t listen to the locals for better options. And now they wonder why welsh gov won?t give money 😡
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2022, 02:32:55 pm
Live stream North Shore web cam....Llandudno North Parade from The Copper Mill Restaurant @ Min y Don - 01492 876511

We are Teresa & Rheinallt, the owners / custodians of Min y Don. Our webcam shares the view from our restaurant  and accommodation businesses of the spectacular Llandudno North Shore, from the entrance of the Victorian Pier to our west (left of cam), to the Little Orme to our east (directly in centre of cam).  The camera runs 24 hours a day, 7 days per week and we do our utmost to keep "up-time" as high as possible.  Wherever necessary, we endeavour to carry out essential system maintenance to overnight periods to reduce down-time during peak viewing hours. 

Live stream  web cam  on You Tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF5xHLzUMLQ

Ian, I am unable to post this in the Useful Links page ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on October 02, 2022, 06:59:01 pm
I've done it, Steve, Can be rather awkward.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 03, 2022, 10:55:17 am
I've done it, Steve, Can be rather awkward.

 &well&    $good$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 04, 2022, 10:38:06 am
Update on the above, it looks like you have to search Min Y Don on the You Tube site to reach the live feed, I have tried using the link above, without success, sorry folks, its still there, but linked to YT first ?     :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 05, 2022, 10:14:24 am
Llandudno Town Council are pleased to announce this years fireworks display will be held on Thursday 27th October 2022 at 7-30pm

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2022, 10:19:57 am
A former Llandudno NHS clinic will be converted into a two-storey car sales showroom after developers were given the green light at a planning meeting ? despite objections from a government body. Councillors at the Conwy County Council planning committee meeting gave Mostyn Estates Ltd permission to convert the former Llandudno medical clinic on Argyll Road into a Honda and Kia showroom.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/retail-unit-next-shopping-park-25176660
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 15, 2022, 10:28:39 am
Buying The Grand, pedestrianisation and floating restaurants on Llandudno regeneration plan list
Mace was commissioned by Conwy County Borough Council to deliver a 10 Year Regeneration Plan

North Wales Live has seen the documents which are being discussed by stakeholders in a major consultation. The total cost of all the interventions proposed would be nearly ?66m.

But the plan states that by improving the offer of the town, through providing more for people to do, there is potential to move Llandudno from a low growth scenario (?360m GVA) to a high growth scenario (?702m GVA) by 2045.

There are more than 70 ideas. These include spending ?10m on buying and revamping The Grand Hotel, which is owned by Britannia and has a poor reputation but a key position on the seafront. There are also options to potentially pedestrianise parts of Mostyn Street or create a one-way system. Floating restaurants beside the pier is another idea.

A list of some of the major ideas ........... https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/buying-grand-pedestrianisation-floating-restaurants-25244523?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 21, 2022, 10:15:13 am
Mobile giant explains why phone service so bad in Llandudno right now
Customers of the Three network have been complaining of poor service in the seaside town in recent weeks

They said they had identified an issue with one of their network sites in Llandudno. This was seeing customers connected to other sites in the area - resulting in slower services. They said they were working to resolve the problem but could not provide a date for when it would be fixed.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mobile-giant-explains-phone-service-25313585
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 22, 2022, 10:31:38 am
'Iconic' Llandudno gallery building built for Lady Mostyn placed up for sale
The freehold for the 120 year old building is available but future of the gallery is secure

Now the building has been placed up for sale with estate agent Dafydd Hardy. It has a price tag of ?220,000. The gallery is retained on a long lease so the sale does not affect its future. It includes several apartments and the former Post Office as well - now Geek Retreat. The building on sale does not include the shop and cafe space.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/iconic-llandudno-gallery-building-built-25309131
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 23, 2022, 11:18:48 am
This property should be under Eyesores................

An old social club in Llandudno not far from the town's West Shore Beach is looking for an owner to give it a new lease of life. West Shore Social Club on Bryniau Road is currently empty and has not been used since it closed down some time ago.

It is located in a prominent part of the town, near the golf club and on a busy highway to and from Deganwy. But despite its prime location, the building is unused and casts a gloomy shadow at the moment as it awaits a new owner to restore it to its former glory.

On sale for offers over ?300,000, the property includes the main club house and associated buildings and the surrounding car park which altogether extends to around 1,088 sqm. The sale is being handled by Jones Peckover who say that the site is considered suitable for a wide range of alternative uses, including residential, commercial and leisure.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/chance-snap-up-redevelop-former-25311771?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 25, 2022, 09:48:14 am
An expanded Poundland will be opening in the former Men?s M&S store on Mostyn Street, including a full range of clothing. Contractors have started the fitout today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 25, 2022, 10:29:05 am
An expanded Poundland will be opening in the former Mens M&S store on Mostyn Street, including a full range of clothing. Contractors have started the fitout today.

Good news, nice to see positive movement on Mostyn St.

Clothing dept, at Poundland, PEP&CO clothing and Home   https://www.poundland.co.uk/pepandco-clothing-and-home/

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 27, 2022, 10:26:46 am
Not so much Bah Bah Bah as Blah Blah Blah !

Feral Llandudno goats get special group to manage them after invading town in Covid lockdown
The goats made international news but some residents were unhappy that their gardens were being destroyed

Council officers said the group would be a cabinet member working group as part of both a short-term and long-term plan managing the goats. The group will also consult Natural Resources Wales, the RSPCA, Llandudno Town Council, and interested local members

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/feral-llandudno-goats-special-group-25358061
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on October 27, 2022, 07:41:26 pm
Who are they kidding?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?..FIREWORK DISPLAY videos
Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2022, 10:39:04 am
Bonfire night 2022: Fireworks spectacular in Llandudno, photos etc from the Pioneer  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23084295.bonfire-night-2022-fireworks-spectacular-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


And a choice of You Tube videos   ........ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=llandudno+fireworks+2022
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 31, 2022, 09:46:59 am
The WH Smith unit in the centre of Llandudno is set for auction this week. The building has been placed on the market with Allsop.

WH Smith is signed up as tenants at the site until 2027 - with a tenant option to break in 2025.

The company currently pays 65,000 a year for the site. The store is spread over two floors and the whole building comprises a total of 819.49 sq m (8,821 sq ft).

There is a Post Office counter in the store. It will go up for auction on Tuesday November 2 - with a guide price of 575,000-600,000.
ref pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2022, 01:04:27 pm
These disgraceful and selfish people should be ashamed of themselves...........  $angry$     $angry$     $angry$


Llandudno GP records more than 400 missed appointments in September

Mostyn House Medical Practice, Llandudno, that 454 patients did not attend their appointments in September.

The practice has asked people to cancel their appointments if they are unable to attend so that the slots can be offered to others.

Mostyn House saw 4,982 patients, handled 7,003 calls, and issued 24,290 items via prescription in September.

All of us have a responsibility to each other. By not attending an appointment we have arranged, we could be delaying care being provided to someone who is in urgent need of support.

Our GPs and their medical teams are under huge strain, we ask that all of us play our part to help ensure that practices can operate in the most effective way possible.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 04, 2022, 07:30:19 pm
It's disgusting that people can do that as there must be many seriously ill people who are unable to get an appointment with their GP.
I wonder if their system operates a fine or removal from their patient list for not attending an appointment?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 09, 2022, 10:12:51 am
The Parade was supposed to take place in July to welcome new Mayor of Llandudno Councillor Carol Marubbi, who was sworn in on May 20.

This was postponed until September, then further delayed due to the death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

Residents braved the wet weather to line the streets and welcome in the new councillors, mayor and deputy (Councillor Greg J T Robbins) into their positions.

A church service was held blessing the incoming town councillors and their new leaders while a laying of the wreath ceremony was also held at the town's cenotaph.

They were joined by members of the Cadets, British Army veterans and other dignitaries.   ref pioneer

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 11, 2022, 02:37:23 pm
A VETERAN who has been a fixture in the Llandudno entertainment scene for more than five decades is getting ready to "bow out gracefully" on New Year?s Eve.

Ian Turner will walk into retirement on January 1 after a final "big party night" at the Merrion Hotel.

The 66-year-old, who is well-known in the town for his music, dancing, comedy, quizzes, radio shows, fundraising and more, has chosen the specific date to step away from the industry; Mr Turner did his first New Year's Eve 'gig' about 50 years ago at the Imperial Hotel on the prom.

Speaking to coastal chief reporter Suzanne Kendrick, wearing a brightly-colourful suit to represent a rainbow, Mr Turner said: "I have done my bit. I've been in the business for 53 years, coming up to 54.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23113763.llandudno-entertainer-bow-gracefully-53-years/
Title: Re: Llandudno?s Christmas Extravaganza 2022: All you need to know
Post by: SteveH on November 15, 2022, 10:41:24 am
A FREE four-day festive event dubbed as the 'biggest in North Wales? social calendar' will make its return this Thursday. 

Llandudno?s second Christmas Extravaganza will return to town on November 17 and will run until Sunday, November 20.
About 30,000 people turned out for the event last year which is held on Trinity Square, Augusta Street and Madoc Street.
Again visitors can expect stalls galore, foodie treats, rides, entertainment, decorated igloos, as well as Mr and Mrs Claus.

Chris Williams, of HTC Entertainment and Events and chairman and director of Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza Ltd Co, said: "The committee of the Llandudno Christmas are really excited to be host the event for the second year running. This year we have managed to attract a great number of craft stalls that you will find in the larger craft marquee in the Mostyn street main entrance. The event will also welcome back a wonderful array of food and drink huts so you will be spoilt for choice.

"Each evening the stage will come to life with live music and dance including Llandudno Swing Band, Ommpah Stomper?s and funk and soul band Yubaba. The event is free to attend and we hope everyone will come and support it just like they did last year.

"This year we are also hosting the Marie Curie light up the night event on Saturday, November 19 at 5pm. You can visit there stall to make a donation for a lantern which you can put a message on to remember a loved one.

"The evening will be a celebration of the work Marie Curie nurses in North Wales do for families and their loved ones in difficult times.

"The Choir Of Charities will also be leading this celebration to start of a night the promises to be one to remember."

Chris added: "Since the 2021 event we have had great support from Llandudno Town Council and Conwy Events, they are both ensuring we have a great line up of entertainment and we hope everyone enjoys it."

The list of those taking to the stage includes Llandudno Swing Band, Oompah Stompers, Yubaba, The Quaynotes Jazz Band, Marlaton Choir, Rock Choir North Wales, Cor Meibion Maelgwn and Linzi Grace School of Dance.

There will also be a Magic Light Productions Show on the Sunday to conclude the event with a bang.

Ysgol Morfa Rhianedd Choir will open the Christmas Extravaganza on Thursday at 2pm on the main stage.

Llandudno's first Christmas Extravaganza hailed a great success as event attracts 30,000
The Extravaganza will run from 10am until 9pm on the Thursday, Friday and the Saturday and will run from 10am until 5pm on the Sunday.

For all the latest information, search for The Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza on Facebook.
Title: Re: LLANDUDNO'S magical Christmas Parade
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2022, 10:18:49 am
LLANDUDNO'S magical Christmas Parade will make its return to the town in early December.

Led by Father Christmas and his sleigh, the parade usually travels from Llandudno Train Station before heading to Vaughan Street, Mostyn Street and to Lloyd Street outside the Town Hall.

This year the spectacular will feature a new character - the Icicle King. There will aslo be stiltwalkers.

Cllr Antony Bertola, Chairman of the Christmas Parade, said: "Llandudno Town Council is delighted to be hosting the Christmas Parade once again. Last year?s event was a great success, with thousands turning out to watch the Parade as it passed through the town, with everyone getting into the Christmas spirit and we are really looking forward to this year's event.

"We have new attractions this year including an icicle king and stiltwalkers as well as old favourites such as the Theatr Colwyn pantomime float, the nativity, and of course Father Christmas in his sleigh.

"There will also be entertainment outside the Town Hall from 2.15pm.

"The Town Council would like to thank Transport for Wales (TfW) and APCOA parking for allowing us to start the Parade from the Railway Station and all involved in this year?s Parade."

The event will return on Saturday, December 3 at 4pm.

Residents turned out in their droves last year for the festive procession.

In 2021, the parade had to be cancelled due to the Covid-19 pandemic.

 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2022
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2022, 10:45:09 am
Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza 2022: All you need to know about the huge Christmas event
Thousands are expected to enjoy the event as the festive season gets well and truly underway

Last year, more than 30,000 people enjoyed the return of Llandudno's Victorian Christmas Extravaganza following the coronavirus pandemic. And this year, organisers have again gone all out to bring plenty of festive cheer to the town.

The extravaganza is billed a free-to-attend Christmas family event with entertainment, gift stalls, food and drink vendors, and fairground rides for the kids.

The Met Office have predicted temperatures of up to 11?C and as low as 8?C this weekend, with a slim chance of light showers on the Sunday. But, the rain isn't set to put a dampener on the whole day and should clear up before the afternoon.

Details are correct at time of publishing but as with any event, are subject to changes. Always check the details with the organiser for any last-minute changes before setting off.

The 2022 Christmas Extravaganza is back and better than ever, starting on Thursday, November 17, and running until Sunday, November 20. The event is open daily from 10am and closes at 9pm, expect on Sunday when it shuts at 5pm.

Exactly the same as last year, you'll find the event spread out over the roads around Trinity Church, Augusta Street and Madoc Street. For those needing it, the postcode provided for directions is LL30 2PY along with What3Words (intention.plot.commutes).

The area is going to be accessible by road and public transport. Llandudno railway station is the nearest for those wanting to avoid the busy roads.

WHAT WILL YOU FIND AT THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA?...............

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/llandudno-christmas-extravaganza-dates-times-22176739
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 18, 2022, 11:41:51 am
I was having a drink in a pub last night with some friends and one of them told us about an incident that happened in the Craig Y Don/ Craigside area of Llandudno on Wednesday night.
He had been told by a reliable source who he chose not to name and added that you won't see the incident reported in the Daily Post
The allegation was that on Wednesday night there was a large ship off the Little Orme and from that ship a small boat was launched with 6 Albanians on board.     
The small boat got into difficulties and the people on it had to be rescued and when they were brought to the shore they were immediately taken to the Hilton Hotel in Dolgarrog
If it's true then there will be RNLI and Police reports that could verify this but let's hope that it's not another method of illegals entering the UK
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on November 19, 2022, 09:47:57 am
Thant's a good one.

How about taking a drop more water in it .

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 19, 2022, 10:14:47 am
If it's not confirmed by next Thursday night then I'll have free drinks all night and my mate will be paying for them!

Watch out Mull.  an unconfirmed report has said that the ship is heading north at some speed     ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on November 19, 2022, 09:57:33 pm
I had good reason to go in to town today and thankfully live within walking distance because the traffic was manic and the streets rammed with people. Hopefully this was good for local business and not just for those travellers with their funfair rides. Christmas fair this wasn't, it was about as festive as a snowman in summer.
I did spot a group of obviously not local males who are probably living in Dolgarrog at the moment and arrived via their bus passes.They were all smoking so hopefully they bought a good supply of fags outside the UK otherwise they will be putting in a complaint about the cost of a packet of 20!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 20, 2022, 10:30:57 am
PICTURES: Fun-filled Saturday at Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza

CROWDS gathered to immerse themselves in festive fun on day three of Llandudno's Christmas Extravaganza yesterday (November 19).

The free four-day event, held on Trinity Square, Augusta Street and Madoc Street, has been dubbed the "biggest in North Wales", after about 30,000 people turned out for it last year.

picture gallery  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23135667.pictures-fun-filled-saturday-llandudno-christmas-extravaganza/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 20, 2022, 11:00:28 pm
I did spot a group of obviously not local males who are probably living in Dolgarrog at the moment and arrived via their bus passes.They were all smoking so hopefully they bought a good supply of fags outside the UK otherwise they will be putting in a complaint about the cost of a packet of 20!

They could have bought their waccy baccy from their brothers in Rhyl

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/six-court-after-discovery-cannabis-24549726

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 23, 2022, 10:37:00 am
A lot of sensible thoughts in this article......................

How Covid ghost town where goats ruled the streets is reinventing itself for the next decade
Llandudno landowner Mostyn Estates says the resort will 'go backwards' if it does not regenerate

A number of closed seafront hotels were snapped up and have reopened or are being revamped while the eating out sector remains strong despite the challenges.

Mostyn Estates recognised - even before the pandemic - that overreliance on tourism came with risks and has been working to help bring other sectors into the town, with some success. Meanwhile Conwy council has commissioned a 10 year regeneration plan for the town - with a report published that includes a raft of ideas.

Jon Merrick, business development, Mostyn Estates, said: ?The continual process for Mostyn Estates is about regenerating Llandudno. The former Tudno Castle, we brought that back to life, we are bringing the Drill Hall back to life, we are bringing the M&S site back to life. They take a considerable amount of money and time.?

Their focus on bringing other employment to the town has seen North Wales Training take on the Drill Hall while there are hopes of a second jobs announcement in the near future. An application is also in for UK Government Levelling-Up funds to help transform the former Mostyn Street M&S into a food, leisure and business destination.

Read more.......https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/how-covid-ghost-town-goats-25582241
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 24, 2022, 10:21:27 am
CONWY Foodbank is set to relocate to a new home in Llandudno due to changes in rent at their current base.

The foodbank is currently situated at Spyce on Rhiw Road, Colwyn Bay, but ?changes? in renting costs have forced them to find a new home.

They will be moving to the Lighthouse Community Church on Great Ormes Road, Llandudno on December 9, and will be collaborating with charity Hope Restored and the Lighthouse Community Congregation.

Sharing the space with their partners, the foodbank will be collecting donations at the new site very soon.
Conwy Foodbank, and the Clothes Bank, are owned by the Sanctuary Trust, who also own several supported living houses across Conwy.

The foodbank will share a building with Hope Restored ?Bag of Hope' foodbank in West Shore, as they will be offering homeless drop in schemes and foodbank services alongside one another in the new building.

Hope Restored will be continuing to run their drop-in services as well as their daily food parcel service, alongside Conwy Foodbank who will also continue to deliver parcels and clothing.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23144404.cost-of-living-crisis-causes-conwy-foodbank-move-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 25, 2022, 04:17:07 pm
Thant's a good one.

How about taking a drop more water in it .

I was expecting to get free drinks all night from my friend after his revelation last week but he was adamant that the info he gave me was correct as told to him
I may have mistakenly thought that the 6 men allegedly rescued and taken to the Hilton Hotel were Albanians but he said that the nationality of the 6 men was unknown
If it's true then you've heard it first on here.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...New shelters
Post by: SteveH on November 28, 2022, 02:31:27 pm
CONWY County Borough Council has successfully secured funding via Welsh Government?s Brilliant Basics Scheme to replace two promenade shelters along Llandudno?s North Shore.

The project will replace two of the seven shelters on North Shore Promenade, opposite the St George?s Hotel and next to the paddling pool in Craig Y Don.

The current shelters are in poor condition, and without action they could be at risk of closure in the future.

The new structures will keep the Victorian design and continue to offer seating and shelter, with ample opportunity to enjoy the views across Llandudno Bay.

In future, it is hoped that smart elements can be added to the structures in the form of solar PV and laptop and mobile phone charging points.

Demolition of the shelters is due to start in early December, with the shelter by the paddling pool being the first to be demolished.

After demolition, contractors will assess the foundations of the previous shelters, with the new Victorian-style shelters expected to be fully built by March 2023.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23154331.council-secures-new-shelters-llandudno-promenade-along-north-shore/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 28, 2022, 05:24:34 pm
I trust Mostyn Estates will also make a substantial contribution to this,  like they promised almost a decade ago.   After all they made no contribution to the street paving in Mostyn Street so they should be able to honour their promise with the shelters

It may go unnoticed with the beach as it is now but I hope the CCBC  don't knock the shelters down and put the rubble on the beach like they have done in the past


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/going-back-victorian-times-plans-5318345

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/15743931.shelters-to-be-restored-on-llandudno-seafront/



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on November 28, 2022, 06:36:32 pm
Hugo I was walking down the prom about 6/7 years ago with a top person to do with the council and he told me they had the funding for the new shelters. Wonder where that cash went.  Yes mostyn est,s own the prom so they should pay for the shelters,    The royal hotel. Is a real eyesore. another project that they made a mess of.
Title: Farage at Large live from Llandudno
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 30, 2022, 06:15:37 pm
Apparently, those with tickets will be treated to a complimentary drink at the Ex-Serviceman?s Club tomorrow evening.

Watch on GB News at 7pm.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 01, 2022, 10:34:27 am
We might be last on the list but................  $bounce$

Two North Wales locations named in top three happiest places to live in Wales
The locations were also among the top 20 happiest places to live overall in the whole of the UK

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/two-north-wales-locations-named-25643723

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza like in 2023
Post by: SteveH on December 02, 2022, 10:27:26 am
THE organisers of Llandudno?s Victorian Extravaganza promise that next year?s event will be bigger and better than ever, with a fringe festival to rival Edinburgh?s.

The Llandudno?s Victorian Extravaganza committee is holding a public meeting next week, inviting both businesses and the public to have their say on how the event can be improved.

The annual event regularly attracts over 200,000 to the town over the May bank holiday weekend.
But it is hoped that Llandudno?s Victorian Extravaganza in 2023 will also be a night-time event, involving multiple venues showcasing the arts.

Chris Williams, chairman of the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza committee, said:  ?We are already moving forward with our planning for the 2023 Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza. That is going ahead on the 29 and 30 April and 1 May,? said Chris.

?What we want to do, and we want to do this working with local venues and businesses, is we want to bring new venues in. We want to almost turn it into a fringe festival.

?We want to take the event into the night-time economy and work with venues to put evening performances on from musicians, comedians, magicians, poets, the type of acts that you would probably see at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival.

?We want to be the first stop for those type of acts. We are talking to Arts Council Wales to bring a new element to the Victorian Extravaganza so it doesn?t just happen in the day so there is a new element that happens at night and focuses very much on the arts.?

?That is something we are going to be talking about next week and sharing our vision with people.?
The committee wants to hear the views of residents and businesses alike while the recent Christmas Extravaganza is fresh in the memory.

Chris said the Christmas Extravaganza, which is also supported by Conwy County Council and Llandudno Town Council, is growing year after year and said this year?s event was another roaring success.

?Last year I think we attracted about 17 day coaches. This year we had 40. People are travelling from outside the area who are seeing the area for the first time.?
?Last year we thought it was upwards of 30,000, and I?d be saying the same again. I think it has got to be pushing 40,000 for the four-day event.?

Speaking before Tuesday?s committee meeting, Chris said: ?The idea is to talk to the public and businesses and get connected with the community and with the local businesses.

?We want to know how we can make life easier, if people have got ideas, how they can get involved.?

The public meeting will take place between 6 pm and 8 pm on Tuesday 6 December at Llandudno Town Hall.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....'Most beautiful place we've ever been'
Post by: SteveH on December 03, 2022, 10:40:36 am
A very interesting and genuine video of the Llandudno area...............

'Most beautiful place we've ever been' - American YouTubers wowed by North Wales town
The YouTube video has been viewed nearly 140,000 times

A popular American YouTube duo visited a North Wales town recently and were enchanted by the area's natural beauty. The young couple, who go by the name MidWest Americans online, stopped off in Llandudno as part of a tour of the UK.

The husband and wife combo, who have amassed nearly 50,000 subscribers on YouTube, visited the Queen of Welsh resorts as part of a tour of the UK in which they also visited Eryri (Snowdonia). The pair hail from the state of Kansas in the midwestern United States and travel all over the world experiencing different cultures and challenges.

In this video, which you can watch below, the pair visit the pier, wander along the beach and go for a stroll along Marine Drive - an area that they described as "one of the most beautiful places we've ever been".

The 18-minute video, which has been viewed nearly 140,000 times, begins with the pair enjoying a meal at the new McDonalds restaurant in Mostyn Champney's retail park. They then head to the pier and the nearby beach before checking into their hotel - The Winchmore Hotel, situated on the promenade near Venue Cymru.

Cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/most-beautiful-place-weve-ever-25660321?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Video Llandudno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtKdbm6wLhY&t=1093s

Snowdonia Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnH3kmVRxUo
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on December 03, 2022, 11:35:00 am
Fairly typical US lack of knowledge; kept referring to the Irish Sea as 'the ocean'.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on December 03, 2022, 11:50:28 am
I think we all understood what he meant as size is everything as the actress said to the bishop!  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 06, 2022, 10:49:06 am
A driver crashed into a petrol pump on a supermarket fuel station forecourt. The accident happened just after 3pm on the Asda petrol station forecourt on Conway Road, Llandudno.

North Wales Fire and Rescue and North Wales Police rushed to the scene of the incident. Crews from Llandudno Fire Station and officers helped to make sure the area was safe. It's understood first aid was administered to one person at the scene but that no-one was seriously hurt, nor was there a need for an ambulance.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-asda-petrol-forecourt-shuts-25679532
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 07, 2022, 10:33:57 am
A woman was taken to hospital after a hit and run outside a Llandudno hotel. The incident happened on the evening of Thursday December 1, outside the Manor Hotel on Craig y Don Parade.

North Wales Police are asking for witnesses, or anybody with dashcam footage, to come forward. They are particularly interested in tracing the car involved, thought to be a white Toyota Aygo or Yaris.

In a post on social media, NWP West Conwy Coastal said: "We are appealing for witnesses following a road traffic collision in Llandudno. Shortly after 8.50pm on Thursday, December 1, we received a report by the Welsh Ambulance Service of a collision involving a car and a pedestrian outside the Manor Hotel on Craig y Don Parade.

"The car, which left the scene of the incident, is described to have been a newer white Toyota Aygo or Yaris. The pedestrian, a woman in her 60s, was taken to hospital.

"Anyone who witnessed the incident, or anybody who was driving in the area at the time and who may have dash cam footage, is asked to get in touch via the website, or on 101, using reference number 22000885565."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 09, 2022, 10:22:35 am
Council tracks shoppers' mobile phone movements on Llandudno street
The move is part of a pilot project to monitor footfall with the Welsh Government but one councillor expressed concerns about intrusion

The scheme aims to provide evidence to businesses and economic development teams on where people are going so it can help inform decisions on businesses hours or where investment may be needed in the seaside resort. But the news, revealed in a council digital strategy report on how the authority will move forward with its technology up until 2027, sparked a fierce debate when it was discussed during a financial resources overview and scrutiny committee meeting.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/council-tracks-shoppers-mobile-phone-25698567?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 12, 2022, 10:31:53 am
 $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 14, 2022, 10:34:46 am
 $walesflag$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 22, 2022, 10:22:18 am
A body has been found near Llandudno's Little Orme. North Wales Police confirmed a body was discovered in the Angel Bay area on Tuesday morning.

The force confirmed that the local coroner's office has been informed about the death. They also said they continue to assist the coroner with their investigations.

They said that the death is not currently believed to be suspicious. A spokesperson for North Wales Police said: "We can confirm a body was found shortly after 8.30am yesterday morning (20/12), in the Angel Bay area of Penrhyn Bay, Llandudno.

"The local coroner's office has been informed and we continue to assist in their investigations. The cause of death is not believed to be suspicious."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on December 23, 2022, 02:12:14 am
i had a misty drizzly Christmas day trip today (enjoyed it though!) but i noticed some of the shelters have been knocked down. Thought i'd ask on here if you know if they planning on knocking them all down? Even if it's to replace with new ones i'm still a bit sad as despite them being a little bit of a stinky mess i can still picture being in there on rainy days in the early 80s with my sister, mum, and gran! Nostalgia only goes so far i guess... though people do need somewhere to enjoy the view whilst sheltering from the rain  ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 23, 2022, 10:49:04 am
Pebbles, some information for you........

Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...New shelters
? Reply #8778 on: November 28, 2022, 02:31:27 pm ?

CONWY County Borough Council has successfully secured funding via Welsh Government?s Brilliant Basics Scheme to replace two promenade shelters along Llandudno?s North Shore.

The project will replace two of the seven shelters on North Shore Promenade, opposite the St George?s Hotel and next to the paddling pool in Craig Y Don.

The current shelters are in poor condition, and without action they could be at risk of closure in the future.

The new structures will keep the Victorian design and continue to offer seating and shelter, with ample opportunity to enjoy the views across Llandudno Bay.

In future, it is hoped that smart elements can be added to the structures in the form of solar PV and laptop and mobile phone charging points.

Demolition of the shelters is due to start in early December, with the shelter by the paddling pool being the first to be demolished.

After demolition, contractors will assess the foundations of the previous shelters, with the new Victorian-style shelters expected to be fully built by March 2023.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23154331.council-secures-new-shelters-llandudno-promenade-along-north-shore/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 26, 2022, 10:23:26 am
Explorers open up 'hidden world' of eerie tunnels beneath Llandudno that lead out to sea
After 37 years of clearance work, volunteers are nearing their goal of breaking through to an unexplored section of Llandudno's Ty Gwyn Copper Mine

On a grass verge just a stone?s throw from Llandudno?s Victorian Pier arcades lies a nondescript steel manhole cover. It?s always locked. The caution is needed, if only to stop the curious venturing into a lost subterranean world that is as dangerous as it is spectacular. Youngsters have died down here.

Llandudno is rightly celebrated for its scenic views but beneath its Victorian facade is another side to the seaside town. Miles of tunnels run beneath its streets towards the Great Orme and out to sea. All were part of a 19th Century copper mine that may have been built on multiple levels, most long lost to flooding.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/explorers-open-up-hidden-world-25802398?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 27, 2022, 10:40:14 am
Bumper turn out for Llandudno Boxing Day Dip 2022!

HARDY souls turned up to brave -4C waters as Llandudno Boxing Day dip returned following a two-year Covid enforced break.

The dip, organised by The Lions Club of Llandudno, attracted a bumper number of dippers as well as spectators who turned out in their droves to support the event. 

Billy Baxter, Llandudno's Official Town Crier, who carried out the countdown to signal the start of the event told the Pioneer: "It is the first official Lions Boxing Day Dip since lockdown. Since 2019. There are many intrepid dippers that have registered to all raise funds for a good cause. Some are brand new to it and others are hardy stalwart that have been doing it for many years."

cont/photos  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23213629.bumper-turn-llandudno-boxing-day-dip-2022/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 28, 2022, 10:19:13 am
There have been recent incidents of anti-social behaviour in the King?s Avenue area of Llandudno, if anyone has any information or CCTV please contact North Wales police and quote  22000901402
 
Message Sent By
PC Llinos Hughes
(North Wales Police, NPT, Central )
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: pebbles on December 29, 2022, 05:25:23 pm
Thank you!


Pebbles, some information for you........

Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...New shelters
? Reply #8778 on: November 28, 2022, 02:31:27 pm ?

CONWY County Borough Council has successfully secured funding via Welsh Government?s Brilliant Basics Scheme to replace two promenade shelters along Llandudno?s North Shore.

The project will replace two of the seven shelters on North Shore Promenade, opposite the St George?s Hotel and next to the paddling pool in Craig Y Don.

The current shelters are in poor condition, and without action they could be at risk of closure in the future.

The new structures will keep the Victorian design and continue to offer seating and shelter, with ample opportunity to enjoy the views across Llandudno Bay.

In future, it is hoped that smart elements can be added to the structures in the form of solar PV and laptop and mobile phone charging points.

Demolition of the shelters is due to start in early December, with the shelter by the paddling pool being the first to be demolished.

After demolition, contractors will assess the foundations of the previous shelters, with the new Victorian-style shelters expected to be fully built by March 2023.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23154331.council-secures-new-shelters-llandudno-promenade-along-north-shore/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 02, 2023, 10:59:01 am
Crowds were seen gathered close to where the Welsh Air Ambulance chopper landed at roughly 2.30pm on New Year's Day (January 1, 2023) between the Llandudno Promenade and the North Shore Beachfront.

The medics were joined by officers from North Wales Police. The air-based support unit left the scene about an hour after landing. It did not convey a patient, witnesses claim, and returned to Caernarfon Airport.

A Welsh Ambulance Service spokesperson told the Daily Post earlier this afternoon that the teams were responding to a 'medical emergency'. No further information was disclosed.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 07, 2023, 10:28:31 am
Major search was launched after reports of missing 18-month-old baby in Llandudno
The search was stood down after the baby was safely located

A large police presence was seen in Llandudno tonight as a multi agency search was launched amid concerns for a missing toddler. The alarm was raised after reports that a young child in a pram was missing.

It was reported that a local police officer put a message in the area's Pubwatch group this evening asking for people to check their premises for the pram and 18-month-old.

There was then a major response involving multiple emergency services personnel, with dozens of responders on Llandudno promenade.

Fire, mountain rescue, coastguard and lifeboat crews were seen at the scene alongside Llandudno Pier to support the force in their search. The search was later stood down.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-search-launched-after-reports-25918986

PS a social media rumour, someone got drunk, and went home, forgetting where they left the baby ?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 07, 2023, 02:56:04 pm
I hope that there was a happy ending to that story.      I don't suppose that it was David Cameron again?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/jun/11/cameron-daughter-pub-too-chillaxed
Title: Re: Street Angels set to launch in Rhyl, Colwyn Bay and Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on January 11, 2023, 10:10:51 am
Street Angels set to launch in Rhyl, Colwyn Bay and Llandudno

A NEW project aimed at supporting those who are or could become vulnerable is set to launch at Easter.

The Street Angels project will see teams of volunteers working at night in various towns including Rhyl, Colwyn Bay and Llandudno.

The teams will offer support such as a listening ear, pairs of flip-flops to those unable to walk in high-heels, low level first aid and lollipops which help prevent anti-social behaviour.

Paul Blakey, the founder of Street Angels, said, "Street Angels started in 2005 in Halifax as a response to needs and issues on Friday and Saturday nights in the town centre. Within 12 months there was a reduction in violent crime of 42 per cent and Street Angels quickly became a model of best practice that has inspired over 100 local projects working on the streets, inside pubs and clubs, at music festivals, within communities and through chaplaincy.

Paul will be visiting North Wales for some information events where people will hear the Street Angels story and stories of the impact in towns across the UK. There will also be the opportunity for questions and answers and for people to sign up to volunteer and training.

These will be held on: Thursday, January 19, 2pm at Festival Church Towyn, 87 Gors Road, Towyn, LL22 9NR; Thursday, January 19, 7.30pm at Antioch Colwyn Bay, 20 Station Road, Colwyn Bay, LL29 8BU and Friday, January 20, 10.30am at Wellspring Church Rhyl, 102 Vale Road, Rhyl, LL18 2PD.

The need for Street Angels was identified in a ROC (Redeeming Our Communities) Conversation which was held in Towyn in September 2022.

The project is set to launch over the Easter weekend and funding has come from the North Wales Police and Crime Commissioner?s Innovate to Grow initiative. This fund helps support new and innovative ways of solving the problems that can often lead to criminal behaviour in communities.

full story   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23242461.street-angels-set-launch-rhyl-colwyn-bay-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Helig on January 11, 2023, 10:42:09 am
It would be interesting to know how many brave souls volunteer for these roles. I hope this isn't the beginning of policing on the cheap. What happens of people are injured, or heaven forbid killed, when undertaking these duties?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on January 11, 2023, 05:37:47 pm
This scheme was started locally in 2008  - DP ought to check their own back-numbers!  Presumably it was not an unqualified success hence the relaunch.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....TV Take A Hike
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2023, 10:24:24 am
Llandudno fitness and body coach leads Great Orme walk in Take a Hike!

A FITNESS and body coach will be seen enjoying the great outdoors as she takes part in BBC2 programme 'Take a Hike'.

Zara Groves, of Llandudno, features in the series alongside five other hikers: Piers Braybrooke, Gareth Pugh, Mike Taggart and Laura Chapman. The programme pits the five hikers against each other to find Britain?s best walks.

Zara chose Llandudno?s Great Orme for her trek and a threw in a spot of paddleboarding "for good measure".

"I loved the show Take A Hike, it was just such an amazing experience, and I loved every minute of it," Zara said.

"The five contestants and I hit it off from the moment we met and literally laughed the whole time. In fact, we got told off a few times as we kept forgetting that we had mics on. The crew were absolutely amazing too, and there was so much banter and laughter the whole time."

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23254851.llandudno-fitness-body-coach-leads-great-orme-walk-take-hike/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....Llew Jones Coaches axes T19
Post by: SteveH on January 19, 2023, 10:26:44 am
Plans to keep tracking shoppers' mobile phone movements on Llandudno street backed
Some councillors have previously questioned the ethics of the scheme

It is part of a digital pilot project run in partnership with the Welsh Government, monitoring footfall on Llandudno?s high street. A report, which was backed by a Conwy scrutiny committee last month, details how the council will move forward with the technology up until 2027.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plans-keep-tracking-shoppers-mobile-26009706?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

PS
Llew Jones Coaches axes T19 Llandudno to Blaenau Ffestiniog bus route
The firm say it was left with 'no option' after huge post-Covid drop in passenger numbers

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llew-jones-coaches-axes-t19-26012051
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 20, 2023, 10:17:31 am
UPDATE

JANET Finch-Saunders, MS for Aberconwy, has launched a petition calling for the Welsh Government, Conwy County Borough Council, and Gwynedd Council to cooperate to offer a package of financial support to save the T19 service operated by Llew Jones.

Llew Jones has given notice to terminate the T19 service, which it currently operates between Llandudno and Blaenau Ffestiniog.

The operator has explained that termination is being pursued because the huge reduction in passengers since the COVID-19 pandemic, and no indications that the numbers will recover any further, has made the T19 increasingly financially unviable.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23262649.aberconwy-ms-launches-petition-help-save-gwynedd-conwy-bus-service/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 20, 2023, 04:09:03 pm
On BBC 2 Wales yesterday evening at 6.30 pm there was an interesting programme that had lovely shots of the Great Orme.   This episode showed Zara Groves leading a group of 4 other walkers over the Great Orme.    Tonight's episode is of a walk in Morfa Nefyn so that too should be of a nice walk in beautiful surroundings



https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001h9zl/take-a-hike-series-2-14-zaras-walk-great-orme
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?........M&S
Post by: SteveH on January 23, 2023, 02:31:42 pm
Mostyn Estates update on former Llandudno M&S foodhall plan after Levelling-Up rejection
Conwy council's bid to secure money from UK Government towards the food, leisure and business hub failed

Mostyn Estates has responded after last week learning the Levelling-Up bid to support the transformation of the former M&S store in Llandudno had been rejected. Conwy council submitted three funding bids to the UK Government for a share of a pot of around ?2.1bn.

They secured over ?18m for a new cycle path from Llandudno Junction to Betws-y-Coed but did not get funding towards an expansion of Parc Eirias stadium in Colwyn Bay or a mixed bid that included the Marks site and work at Venue Cymru theatre in Llandudno.

Mostyn Estates bought the old main M&S site on Mostyn Street after the retailer moved to Parc Llandudno last March. They plan to redevelop the old store into a food, leisure and business hub in a bid to create a strong future for this prominent site.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mostyn-estates-update-former-llandudno-26046468
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on January 23, 2023, 04:09:36 pm
18 million for a cycle path ?

You have got to be joking.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 23, 2023, 07:05:51 pm
Funny how Robin Millar has said it?s what the council wanted,  strange that the council put the bid in for the funding for the big M& S store and the venue. And Eirias park.  Him and the finch got for their mates.  Instead.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 24, 2023, 10:30:05 am
18 million for a cycle path ?

You have got to be joking.

I thought the same thing............... how many nurses would that get north wales? at this difficult time..... priorities  $angry$
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on January 24, 2023, 11:22:55 am
18 million for a cycle path ?

You have got to be joking.

I thought the same thing............... how many nurses would that get north wales? at this difficult time..... priorities  $angry$

Who elected the councillors and when is the next election - so we can tell them to "get on yer bike"?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 25, 2023, 10:22:20 am
More details on the above.......

FINAL plans for a multi-million-pound cycle path between Llandudno Junction and Betws-y-Coed are set to be agreed upon by councillors ? and construction could start next year.

The route for the Glan Conwy to Llandudno Junction scheme will link the two communities by a shared-use walking and cycling path with onward connections to Conwy Town and Llandudno.

The consultation on a shortlist of options starts this week, with one option being a route via a bridge over the railway and a path through Conwy?s RSPB reserve.

The scheme will form the northernmost section of the Coast to Valley Active Travel Route.
At the southern end of the Coast to Valley is the second leg, linking Llanrwst to Betws-y-Coed.
This scheme could feature an improved river crossing for walking and cycling at Betws-y-Coed.
The existing footbridge at this location, known as Sappers? Bridge, is currently closed on safety grounds.

Like the scheme to the north, the council says this project will help open up the southern section of the Coast to Valley route.

The third scheme, Trefriw Resilient Roads, is a project that will provide a flood-resilient route in and out of the village.

Cllr Charlie McCoubrey, leader of Conwy County Council, was excited about the bid.
?We?re delighted that our transport bid has been successful, although of course we?re disappointed that the other two projects were not,? he said.

A spokeswoman for Conwy County Council added: ?Once we?ve received the detailed information about the funding offer from UK Government, it will be presented to councillors for consideration.   On how much they will overspend by this time ?

?Then it?ll be a matter of working on design, planning, consultation, and procurement over the next 12 months or so, with construction work provisionally scheduled for 2024/25.?

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23274358.work-multi-million-pound-conwy-cycle-path-start-next-year/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 26, 2023, 10:15:34 am
LLANDUDNO residents fear an 18m-high mobile phone mast will be an eyesore and reduce house prices.

Clarke Telecom is currently carrying out a pre-planning consultation for the 5G mast on behalf of network providers Three before they apply to Conwy County Council?s planning department.

If the mast gets the go-ahead, it will be placed on the grassed area at the junction between St. Mary?s Road and Claremont Road.

But residents living on the street say the mast will be an eyesore.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23277194.llandudno-residents-fears-mobile-phone-mast/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 27, 2023, 10:21:57 am
THE site of former Conwy County Borough Council offices in Llandudno have been put up for auction.    ref pioneer


The land at Builder Street is up for auction with Allsop, with a guide price of ?200,000.
It will go to auction online on February 9.

Planning permission for five light industrial units at the site was approved by Conwy County Borough Council in March 2022.

Details, courtesy of Allsop, said: ?The property is situated in a light industrial/mixed-use area of the town centre, fronting the north-west side of Builder Street and immediately south of the rail station.

?The adjacent site has planning permission for 77 dwellings.?

Indeed, another new development on Builder Street will feature 77 one, two, three and four-bedroom homes to cater for families and over-55s.

This scheme is part of ClwydAlyn's development programme to deliver a further 1,500 new homes in North Wales by 2025 at an investment of ?250million.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 28, 2023, 10:20:14 am
Update on the above post.........?  #8809 on: January 23, 2023, 02:31:42 pm ?

RESIDENTS are being encouraged to participate in a public consultation seeking views on the three shortlisted options for the active travel route between Llandudno Junction and Glan Conwy.

A list of 29 options has now been narrowed down to three for further consideration.

You can make your views known online and at the public information session being held at Church House, Church Street, Glan Conwy between 1-7pm on February 1.

Mrs Finch-Saunders said: ?When I was a cabinet member on Conwy County Borough Council, in 2004, having a cycle route connecting Glan Conwy to Llandudno Junction was recognised as a priority.

?After years of work, organising meetings with key stakeholders, scrutinising the Welsh Government, and corresponding extensively with the local authority, I am pleased that we have reached a point where the public are being presented with three options.

?We have reached this stage knowing that there has been significant demand by local residents and families for the route to be completed.  ??

?So, I hope that as many as possible will take the time to look at the options and share their views.?  ref pioneer


Mrs H, suggested spendind the 19million on a cycle path to Glan Clwyd Hospital..............  ;)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 30, 2023, 10:13:02 am
Man left fighting for his life after hit and run in Llandudno
Police said a car then overturned in the town centre a short time later

A pedestrian was left fighting for his life after a hit-and-run near Llandudno. The 48-year-old was hit by a black VW Polo on Crogfryn Lane, near Llanrhos, Llandudno, at around 11.30pm last night (Saturday, January 28).

North Wales Police (NWP) said the VW Polo left the scene before officers arrived on the scene. Around ten minutes later, a black VW Polo overturned outside Llandudno Magistrates Court on Conway Road.

Four people were subsequently arrested. The victim was taken to Ysbyty Glan Clwyd hospital, Bodelwyddan.

"A 48-year-old man has suffered life-threatening injuries,? said a spokesperson. ?He is currently receiving treatment in hospital.?

The second incident happened at about 11.40pm. It occurred roughly 1.5 miles from the first collision.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-left-fighting-life-after-26103131
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 31, 2023, 10:04:30 am
Update...

A man is in hospital with life-threatening injuries after he was hit by a car in a suspected hit-and-run.

The crash happened in Crogfryn Lane, Llanrhos, near Llandudno, Conwy county, at about 23:30 GMT on Saturday, with a black VW Polo fleeing the scene.

A black VW Polo crashed 10 minutes later on Conway Road, Llandudno, North Wales Police said. It is unclear whether the incidents are being linked.

Police said four people had been arrested and appealed for witnesses.    ref BBC
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 01, 2023, 10:25:02 am
Dangerous idiots at work here...........  $angry$

Hotel guests were evacuated from a town centre hotel late at night after a fire alarm was activated. Fire crews raced to the Travelodge on Gloddaeth Street in Llandudno shortly after 11.30pm last night after they were alerted to the alarm.

However, when firefighters checked the building they found no sign of smoke or fire. Pictures from the scene show a number of fire engines at the scene last night and a large group of what is understood to be hotel guests standing outside.

A North Wales Fire and Rescue Service spokesperson said: "We were called at 23.48 to a malicious activation of a call point.   ref DP
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 02, 2023, 10:25:10 am
LLANDUDNO residents fear an 18m-high mobile phone mast will be an eyesore and reduce house prices.

Clarke Telecom is currently carrying out a pre-planning consultation for the 5G mast on behalf of network providers Three before they apply to Conwy County Council?s planning department.

If the mast gets the go-ahead, it will be placed on the grassed area at the junction between St. Mary?s Road and Claremont Road.

But residents living on the street say the mast will be an eyesore.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23277194.llandudno-residents-fears-mobile-phone-mast/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

TELECOMMUNICATIONS company ?Three? has decided not to pursue planning permission for a telecoms mast at St Mary?s Road/Claremont Road in Llandudno.

Clarke Telecom was undertaking a pre-application consultation for a mast that was intended to be 18m high; 8m higher than the average roof level in a residential area of Llandudno.
cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23293658.plans-new-5g-mast-llandudno-will-not-going-ahead/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 03, 2023, 10:48:24 am
If the council had made provision for car parking at the railway station or the coach park, and closing existing car parks, short sighted as usual.

Introducing widespread parking restrictions could damage business in a top North Wales resort, says the chairman of its pub watch scheme. Conwy County Council has put out a public notice advertising a host of parking restrictions it hopes to introduce in Llandudno as well as in Craig y Don and Penrhyn Bay.

The restrictions include changes to the parking rules in the centre of Llandudno, including Mostyn Street, Abbey Road, Church Walks, Conway Road, The Oval, and Trinity Avenue, amongst others. But after years of Covid restrictions, Llandudno?s pub watch chairman Phil Ashe believes the town already has enough parking restrictions and fears tourism could be damaged.

Mr Ashe, who is also a silent partner in a prominent Llandudno business, was angry about the proposals, citing Conwy?s ?21 million budget shortfall as the reason behind the changes. ?It?s going to damage tourism in Llandudno, especially in terms of day trippers,? he said.

?You won?t be able to park anywhere without getting a ticket, and I think that?s what the council are hoping because the officers within the council clearly can?t manage the money as it is, so they are finding other ways to try and tax the public. It is not for parking reasons. These restrictions are being introduced because the council, over the last couple of years, have spent money on vanity projects.?

?The council have already maxed out on parking restrictions here,? she said.

?The one thing Llandudno needs now is to keep our high street free. The roads around here have seen far too many parking restrictions previously.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/widespread-llandudno-parking-restrictions-damage-26143695
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 07, 2023, 10:11:11 am
Work will start on controversial Llandudno housing estate this spring
Anwyl Homes has completed the land deal to pave the way to start the 49 home development next to Ysgol y Gogarth

This week Anwyl said the deal for the 4.4 acre site had been completed. They said work will begin in late spring and it is estimated the project will support around 150 local jobs. It will include 17 affordable homes.

Anwyl will make contributions totalling over ?64,000, including more than ?23,000 towards open space provision, circa ?13,600 towards education, nearly ?10,000 towards local library provision and almost ?1,000 towards allotments.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/work-start-controversial-llandudno-housing-26174776?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 09, 2023, 10:48:11 am
'Vulnerable' missing person found unresponsive after major search operation
Emergency services found them by the seafront at Llandudno

A "vulnerable" missing person was found unresponsive after a major search operation was launched. A police drone operator spotted the person near the seafront at Lloyd Street West in Llandudno during the early hours of February 8.

Conwy RNLI, Llandudno Coastguard, North Wales Police and the Welsh Ambulance Service were all brought in to help after the casualty was found conscious but unresponsive, with their condition deteriorating. They were placed onto a cliff rescue stretcher before being moved from the rock armour structure they were on to a safer position.

A Llandudno Coastguard spokesman said: "An initial survey of the casualties condition showed no obvious signs of injury so we kept the casualty warm whilst we deployed our cliff rescue stretcher. With the help of a number of police officers we were able to get the casualty onto the stretcher and to move them from the extremely dangerous environment of the rock armour groyne to a safer position.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/vulnerable-missing-person-found-unresponsive-26191468?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 11, 2023, 10:27:11 am
Update on above......

Video shows moment police drone unit helped save life of 'vulnerable' woman
Emergency services found her by the seafront at Llandudno's West Shore


The dramatic moment a "vulnerable" missing person was found unresponsive after a major search operation was launched in Llandudno was captured in drone footage. The massive search involved Conwy RNLI, Llandudno Coastguard, North Wales Police and the Welsh Ambulance Service.

Emergency services were all brought in to help after the woman was found conscious but unresponsive, with her condition deteriorating. She was placed onto a cliff rescue stretcher before being moved from the rock armour structure they were on to a safer position.

A police drone operator spotted her near the seafront at Lloyd Street West in Llandudno on February 8 during the early morning search. The drone unit said the woman would not have survived if she had not have been found.

A Llandudno Coastguard spokesperson previously said: "An initial survey of the casualties condition showed no obvious signs of injury so we kept the casualty warm whilst we deployed our cliff rescue stretcher. With the help of a number of police officers we were able to get the casualty onto the stretcher and to move them from the extremely dangerous environment of the rock armour groyne to a safer position.

cont-video https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/video-shows-moment-police-drone-26212670?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....British Heart Foundation
Post by: SteveH on February 14, 2023, 09:48:31 am
THE British Heart Foundation (BHF) in Llandudno is asking people to 'have a heart' this Valentine's Day and volunteer.

The BHF Home Store on Vaughan Street is inviting nearby residents, who may be looking for something new to try, to take on one of the volunteering roles available.

The BHF is seeking people who can offer a few hours or a couple of mornings or afternoons a week.

"Through volunteering I have made many new friends and met some amazing people in the customers we meet."

Volunteers can learn and develop a range of skills, from telephone and logistical administration and help on the shop floor to sort stock. There is also opportunities to help photograph and list items for the BHF online shop.

Roles can provide transferrable skills for job applications and boost confidence, while also helping the BHF raise funds for life saving research.

For more information head to: bhf.org.uk/volunteer, drop into the store or telephone 01492 877023.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...Bodafon Farm Park Closing
Post by: SteveH on February 16, 2023, 10:30:08 am
A FARM that has been popular with residents and visitors for many years is set to close.

Rumours have been circulating that Bodafon Farm Park, Bar and Restaurant is to close to the public towards the end of the year.

Now the attraction has confirmed on social media that they are in their "final year".

On February 15 they posted: "WE ARE OPEN! We are ready to begin our final year at Bodafon Farm 2023.

"OPEN Wednesday-Sunday from 15th Feb- 26th for half term holidays .

"Farm open 10am-4pm Cafe 11am-4pm.

"Residents of Conwy bring any proof of address and pick up a FREE 2023 pass.

"Admission ?3.50 under 3s FREE."

It is understood the closure is related to Bodafon Farm not being able to renew their lease with Mostyn Estates but this has not been confirmed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 17, 2023, 09:32:22 am
New 'gateway' plan for Llandudno to ease congestion and wean people off cars
The scheme may be extended to cut car travel over a larger area of the town

A road congestion scheme planned for Llandudno will create an ?active travel gateway? into the seaside town. The project was one of the few to survive the Welsh Government?s Roads Review, published this week, but the green light came with a host of provisos.

Among these is a recommendation to explore measures to cut car travel over a larger area of the town ? possibly via ?parking management and charges?. Also advocated by the Roads Review is a new travel planning partnership for local business, retailers and tourism groups.

To encourage people to switch from cars to buses, Conwy Council is also being asked to reduce bus fares at peak times. All of these will then tie in with a redesign of the Links Roundabout on the A470 Conway Road that is planned already by the local authority.

A feasibility study has yet to be carried out by the council but, in principle, the aim is to modify the roundabout and provide an active travel route along Conway Road to the town centre. Links Roundabout is seen as a pinch-point for traffic heading into town but the Roads Review believes that sorting out the problems here, with 700-metre cycle lanes to and from Vaughan Street, will not be enough.

?To have significant impact, it (the scheme) would need to be accompanied by active travel infrastructure south of Links Roundabout along the A470 and the B5115, in order to provide a complete route to Llanrhos,? said the Review panel. ?This approach would recognise that the congestion at Links Roundabout is a symptom of a wider problem, and that treatment in isolation is therefore unlikely to be effective.?

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-gateway-plan-llandudno-ease-26258658
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Helig on February 17, 2023, 10:55:16 am
A park and ride scheme might help but I don't know where they could put it.
Title: Start with the 26 Bus Service.
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 17, 2023, 11:28:01 am
To encourage people to switch from cars to buses

Perhaps, CCBC might like to start promoting the much underused 26 Bus Service called the Llandudno Circular as well as placing up-to-date timetables at all the bus stops on the 26 bus route, especially the timetable at the Summit which is nearly 10 years old and refers to the old 25 bus service.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 17, 2023, 12:22:03 pm
Bodafon Farm Park owner 'overwhelmed' by response after announcing closure plan
The Llandudno farm park has been running since 1999 on Bodafon fields



Marc Roberts has put a lot of time and effort into improving the farm and I'll be sorry to see him go, not only from a personal point of view but I know what is coming next
Mostyn Estates Ltd is of course the owner of the farm and surrounding farmland and for many years it has tried to get planning permission for the entire farmland
What I expect will happen is that the company will say that Bodafon Farm as a working farm is not viable and will submit a building application for houses to be built on all or part of the existing farmland
I hope that I am proved wrong but time will tell




https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bodafon-farm-park-owner-overwhelmed-26256613
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on February 17, 2023, 12:48:12 pm
Brian,

One of the more brilliant CCBC decisions was to move Public Transport away from Community Services and put it back with Highways Etc. This took place under the Gareth Jones leadership and the cheer leader was the then Cabinet Member, Donald Milne. Having achieved this they then failed to recruit a replacement Public Transport Officer and, finally, subsumed the function into School Transport.  There is no longer any apparent CBC interest or involvement in public transport - except paying for the contracted services - hence the lack of road side information, broken timetable holders etc.  Don't bother making a service complaint about their wholly funded services (such as 75, 76 or 25) because they see no need to respond to, or engage with, the travelling public. QED
Title: Start with the 26 Bus Service
Post by: Bri Roberts on February 17, 2023, 01:11:50 pm
Thank you, Cambrian, for the explanation.


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....Train holidays are the future
Post by: SteveH on February 22, 2023, 09:36:16 am
Anger in Llandudno over 'anti-tourism' parking curbs but some say train holidays are the future
Conwy Council is planning to introduce parking restrictions on more than 50 roads in the resort

Tourists are likely to be driven away from a North Wales seaside town if planned parking curbs go ahead, residents have complained. Conwy Council wants to slap parking restrictions on 54 streets in Llandudno, Craig y Don and Penrhyn Bay but locals have warned it will affect the area?s holiday trade.

The council?s aim is to maintain traffic flows and improve road safety in a town that prides itself on being the ?Queen of Welsh Resorts?. But some visitors have already said they will stay away if they can?t access convenient street parking.

The parking plans are the latest to cause consternation in Llandudno. One car park is under threat from development and locals were left devastated by the Welsh Government?s refusal to underwrite the return of sand to the town?s main North Beach.

Read more  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/anger-llandudno-over-anti-tourism-26297334?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

The Review Panel wants the local authority to explore ways of cutting car travel over a larger area of the town ? possibly via ?parking management and charges?. Llandudno Railway Station is also seen as a big opportunity to boost walking and cycling. Five active travel schemes are already in the pipeline, all connecting to the station, and the Review panel projected a revival in train tourism if rail services were boosted.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....Is Conwy Council right?
Post by: SteveH on February 23, 2023, 12:39:48 pm
Is Conwy Council right to crack down on Llandudno street parking?
They're planning to put restrictions throughout the town

Like any seaside town, Llandudno depends on tourism to bring in money and visitors. However people are split over a plan to reduce street parking in the town.

Conwy Council wants to slap parking restrictions on 54 streets in Llandudno, Craig y Don and Penrhyn Bay. The move would move people towards taking public transport, but locals have warned it will affect the area?s holiday trade too.

Under the plans, parking will be banned on 48 streets at all times. Parking will be prohibited between 9am-6pm on a further three roads in the peak summer season (April 1 to September 30).

Three more will have 120-minute parking between 8am and 6pm on Mondays to Saturdays. You can see a complete list of affected streets here.    cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-right-crack-down-26303688?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

The parking restrictions are proposed on: Tudno Street, Old Road, Great Orme Road, Bryniau Road, Church Walks, Abbey Road, West Parade, Church Walks, Vadre Lane, Whiston Passage, Salisbury Passage, Salisbury Road, Bryniau Road, Great Ormes Road, Cwm Road, Ffordd Penrhyn, Fferm Bach Road, Meadow Gardens, Brookes Street, Ty Gwyn Road, Maesdu Road, Ffordd Penrhyn, St Mary's Road, Derwen Lane, Mostyn Street, Tudor Road, Trinity Avenue, Conway Road,

Vicarage Avenue, Maenan Road, Eryl Place, St Andrews Avenue, Trinity Avenue, The Oval, Bodnant Crescent, Bodnant Road, St David's Road, Nant y Gamar Road, Victoria Avenue, Queens Road, West Parade, Dale Road, Lloyd Street West, West Parade, T'yn y Coed Road, Clifton Road, Stephen Street, Mostyn Avenue, Craig y Don, Clarence Road, Glan y Mor Road, Penrhyn Bay, Colwyn Road, and Gloddaeth Street.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 28, 2023, 10:38:43 am
Llandudno residents oppose glamping pod over smoke and parking claims
A planning application has been submitted for a wooden glamping pod and associated ancillary works

But some neighbours living on Bodafon Road have written to Conwy objecting to the plans. Ms Karon Glynn sent a letter to Conwy complaining about several issues caused by campers.

"The glamping pod on the site is heated by a wood burner as is the associated hot tub on site," she said.
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-residents-oppose-glamping-pod-26344944?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


A WOMAN from Liverpool has named her dog after her favourite Welsh town Llandudno.
Sarah Sinnott, a healthcare worker, said her dog, a Wire-Haired Dachshund, loves visiting the seaside town as much as she does.
cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23350245.woman-names-dog-llandudno-favourite-welsh-town/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 01, 2023, 10:07:50 am
Majority fear Conwy Council parking clamp down will reduce tourism if approved
A North Wales Live poll found 9 in 10 people felt stricter restrictions would have a negative impact on tourism

Conwy Council is proposing strict new parking restrictions for more than 50 streets in Llandudno, Craig y Don and Penrhyn Bay. The council says the new rules would improve traffic flow and road safety, but not everyone supports the proposal.

Some fear the strict parking measures will drive tourists away from some of North Wales' most popular tourist destinations. Others have expressed concerns about the impact the rules will have on residents who already struggle to find parking.

Following strong reactions to the plans, we conducted a poll to find out what North Wales Live's readers thought. The poll, which was answered by more than 300 people, found that the overwhelming majority appeared to oppose the new measures.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/majority-fear-conwy-council-parking-26356223
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2023, 10:23:26 pm
Three arrested as police swoop on empty Llandudno hotel
Three men were taken from within the hotel and taken away by officers

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/three-arrested-police-swoop-empty-26391352

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-cordon-road-llandudno-26390882


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 06, 2023, 10:07:28 am
What next for eyebrow raising Llandudno regeneration plan and its 70+ ideas for town
Some of the projects caught the attention of residents and visitors but overall direction was welcomed

A regeneration plan to transform Llandudno was announced last year. It was shown to stakeholders in the summer and North Wales Live obtained a copy of the documents.

International consultancy Mace had been commissioned by Conwy County Borough Council (CCBC) to deliver a 10 year Regeneration Plan for future growth and investment. There were more than 70 ideas put forward in the comprehensive report.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-next-eyebrow-raising-llandudno-26363710?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on March 06, 2023, 12:22:20 pm
It would be interesting to know who exactly is on the Project Board.  I was intrigued by the suggestion of an extension of a tram to serve Llandudno.  What can this mean - the Great Orme Tram to terminate at North Western Gardens ??  If "Transport for Wales" actually recognised the Town's importance as a holiday/conference/day trip venue and opened the ticket office until 1800 instead of closing the whole waiting area around 1500 it would be a start.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 06, 2023, 02:15:33 pm
Some good points you've raised there Cambrian.    I wonder if Mr Edward Hiller is one of those people on the Project Board, the same person who promised Victorian style lights for the Promenade a decade ago
The same one who refused to pay for the pavement improvements in Mostyn Street although the company he works for actually owns the land
The tram service was also touted about some years ago when Mr Hiller suggested a park and ride scheme where the tram would go from Bodafon Farm to Llandudno Railway Station,        Of course us locals know that that idea was just a prelude to being able to build houses on Bodafon Farm
Like Cambrian has said it would be nice to know who exactly is on the Project Board
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on March 06, 2023, 05:06:38 pm
Just read through the Plan & really don't know what to think of it. One suggestion for West Shore is to put showers in & make it an area for water sports. Really!!!!!!!!! The last thing we need in the estuary is boy racers on jet skies. What about damage to the mussel beds? Also suggested suitable for surfing which is laughable, but that's what they get for using a London Company to carry out the research. Edward Hiller is mentioned under the heading 'Private Sector Stakeholder Engagement'.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 06, 2023, 10:21:04 pm
That's interesting Meleri  "Edward Hiller is mentioned under the heading 'Private Sector Stakeholder Engagement"   I suppose he'll be the one pulling the strings
I do remember him plugging something similar for the town a few years ago but we'll see what happens to this idea        I hope I'm wrong but I can't imagine them doing anything for the youngsters in Llandudno but I've a feeling that Bodafon fields will pop up somewhere
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 07, 2023, 10:25:16 am
I think the main point of this exercise is to see what the government will pay for, then take any credit going.........

Quote from original article......
Conwy council said: "Since the Autumn we?ve shared the report with our Project Board and agreed a reporting structure to monitor progress of the actions contained within the plan.

"We?ve also been busy identifying funding streams in order to carry out a number of priorities contained within the plan.

"Alongside this, a number of Community Place Plans within Conwy County have been developed using UK Government?s Community Renewal Funding. Now that all plans are nearing finalisation we?ll take them through our democratic process together.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on March 08, 2023, 06:03:00 am
What do I know about tourism ? Very little if truth be known. However, I think there are options that are relatively inexpensive that would add to Llandudno?s appeal.
Solving the parking problem would be high in my agenda.
Personally I would favour making the traffic along the prom one way after the roundabout at the sailing club and make Mostyn St the same on the opposite direction. That would ease congestion caused by coaches off loading their passengers.
I would leave Alan Williams to coming up with a suitable plan to attract youngsters to his Pavillion site.
The constant claims there is nothing for young people to do amazes me. There can?t be a time when they had more on offer than they do now but I am not of that generation so should not judge.
The council should extend the opening times of the tram service to take in at least the sunset and the Summit cafe could be somewhere people could enjoy an evening meal.
I?d investigate car numberplate recognition costs to monitor traffic around the Marine drive to collect tolls and hopefully stop anti social behaviour and illegal overnight parking and littering.
The most investment should be in maintaining Bodafon Fields as a recreation site whilst still maintaining a green field appearance. It could host park and ride and solve the parking issues on Nant-y-Gamar Rd at the same time. I would envisage showground facilities be made available for events to be held there. More water and electric points, possibly overnight camping too. The majority of the farmland should remain as it is. The Bodafon Farm site itself is another eyesore which if offered I?m sure could become an excellent wedding and other event location. The current use as a family farm visit could be maintained and improved with entry part of the park and ride or camping fee?
Anyway those are just some ideas which may or may not be practical.
What no one wants are schemes that are not self sustaining or appeal to a small minority. One of the truly successful tourism developments in the locality was when the Council sold off the caravan site in Conwy Morfa but the successful bidder wasn?t the highest from what I recall but the one that offered the council a share of the future profits. We need more like that because most council run schemes end up being failures or fail to exploit the potential from what I can see.Mostyn Estates might have ownership in many cases but the council have the final say until of course come election day.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Helig on March 08, 2023, 10:15:27 am
One of the attractions of Llandudno was that, although being a seaside town, it had an unusual charm in that it wasn't full of touristy tat. The natural beauty of the town drew people to it for many years. I know these days tourism is a big money maker but it would be a shame to spoil the area with fairgrounds, markets full of rubbish and such like. Not having lived there for some time now I am not familiar with parking problems but think any park and ride schemes should be a distance out and within reach of the main routes into the town. Chester put park and ride schemes in very successfully in the 1970s and the manner in which these were located was such they didn't create a blot on the surrounding areas. The council should take action to remedy eyesores such as the Pier Pavilion site. It could be developed as an eco town with low carbon activities and maybe deter cars from the town itself.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on March 08, 2023, 11:06:09 am
One of the attractions of Llandudno was that, although being a seaside town, it had an unusual charm in that it wasn't full of touristy tat. The natural beauty of the town drew people to it for many years.

More importantly, the age group attracted to the town tend to enjoy walking and similar activities, which exploit what Llandudno already has in abundance. Our children are now in their thirties, but they love the place, and with the plethora of activities being developed (let's hope that will include the Surf Snowdonia centre) Llandudno's ideally placed to benefit from an increased staycation trend, without spending vast amounts.

That, of course, doesn't include the tragic disaster area some call a 'beach'. That does need cash and quickly, because seaside towns without a beach look very sorry indeed.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 08, 2023, 11:58:09 am
I believe that Mostyn Estates could have had a park and ride scheme on land they owned just outside of Llandudno but turned it down.
Their preference was for a park and ride from Bodafon Fields and no doubt an ulterior motive
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 08, 2023, 02:45:45 pm
As a person born in Llandudno and growing up there,  I did think that there wasn't a lot for youngsters to do.    We did have two open air swimming pools nearby, one at the Lido Deganwy and the other at Rhos on Sea.   There was also a roller skating rink and when it rained there was also Tucson's Amusements under the Pier Pavilion and there were four cinemas in the town.
There was also another place where you could go to watch TV, or play music and dance.    You could also play darts, snooker, table tennis, chess plus other games.    For those that wanted to there wras a gym plus a canoe and walking club.   Those activities were all housed in one building and run by a lovely couple Mr & Mrs Dewi Jones
Anyone my age will know that I'm referring of course to the Llandudno Youth Centre.      It saddens me that the place is now closed and the town has not provided a replacement for it.     In fact the building has been demolished and replaced by an apartment block.probably for people retiring to the area.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on March 08, 2023, 03:31:37 pm
Hugo you are correct. The youth club did look that big on the outside. But it was great inside,  you would come out at 10 ish. Greasy lils or billy Mac?s and all walk home together. No fighting causing trouble,    Mostyn est have a lot to answer in our town.      They have got their way with bodafon,   I was told last week the guy who has it now his son had a great plan to take it over,  put the plans to mostyns.  He got a one word reply.    No.  😡
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 09, 2023, 10:19:23 am
Norman, the farm is on an existing lease but Mostyn Estates has been trying to buy back the remainder of the lease for many years.    The tenant farmer has done a good job with the farm but has been fighting a losing battle with Mostyn Estates who want the lease back
We know that Mostyn Estates is only interested in making Bodafon Fields unviable as a farm so that they can build houses on the land.     They have no interest in doing anything  for the people of Llandudno.     

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 09, 2023, 10:23:18 am
A person has been taken to hospital following a crash in Llandudno. The collision, which involved two cars, took place on Colwyn Road beside the Llandudno Promenade and outside the RNLI Lifeboat station, shortly after 1pm today [Wednesday].

The road remained open with delays while emergency services attended the scene. The casualty was taken to Ysbyty Gwynedd by ambulance for further treatment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Helig on March 09, 2023, 11:29:59 am
Mention of the two open air swimming pools brings back memories for me. I remember both of these and used to enjoy the Deganwy Lido as well as the Rhos on Sea pool. These were packed in the summer months and very well used by children of all ages. It was a pity they were closed and the land used for building. The housing development in Deganwy was pretty grim in my opinion. I have read that lidos are back in fashion and money is being spent to renovate those that are still in existence today.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 10, 2023, 10:43:58 am
Double decker bus badly damaged after crashing into wall in Llandudno
It is understood several passengers were on board the bus at the time of the crash

A double decker bus was left badly damaged after crashing into a garden wall in Llandudno. St Margarets Drive, off Nant-y-Gamar Road, was partially blocked this afternoon after the Arriva number 12 bus hit the wall as is drove down the narrow road.

Images from the scene showed the bus having made contact with the edge of the wall. Several windows appear to have been smashed following the crash.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/double-decker-bus-badly-damaged-26434992
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 10, 2023, 12:28:33 pm
Is there any update on that accident?     I didn't think that the No12 buses would go by St Margaret's Drive but then I don't use the buses often
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 10, 2023, 01:24:50 pm
Is there any update on that accident?     I didn't think that the No12 buses would go by St Margaret's Drive but then I don't use the buses often

No updates, sorry
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 10, 2023, 02:32:30 pm
Thanks anyway Steve.      I've had a quick look at the Arriva route and it doesn't go anywhere near St Margaret's Drive so it's a mystery as to why that accident happened
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....Llandudno Moon
Post by: SteveH on March 12, 2023, 10:17:11 am
Careful planning ? and a bit of luck ? paid off handsomely for a photographer who set out to capture this week?s Worm moon over Llandudno. The resulting image has vowed social media audiences with its otherworldly appeal.

Anglesey-based Tom Last, 56, specialises in astrophotography and has previously captured spectacular sun and moon rises over places like Yr Wyddfa (Snowdon), Tryfan and Bangor Pier. For his latest project, he chose the Conwy seaside resort of Llandudno which, being so low-lying, required ultra-precision.

Tom, from Llandegfan, also captured time-lapse images of the moon?s rising over the town and beyond the Great Orme. For the moon to take centre-stage, looming huge over the town, he used an 800mm prime lens positioned 16km away on Lleiniog beach between Beaumaris and Penmon on Anglesey's southeast coast

cont plus video https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/omg-image-worm-moon-shows-26432550?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....New Betws-y-Coed and Llandudno bus
Post by: SteveH on March 14, 2023, 09:59:18 am
A NEW bus service is to operate between Betws-y-Coed and Llandudno, following the discontinuation of a similar route by the same company.

Llew Jones Coaches has launched the 19X service, which operates three times daily, Monday to Saturday, and is free of charge until April 7.

The company previously ran the T19 service, between Blanaeu Ffestiniog and Llandudno, but that came to an end on February 11 after being in use for 18 months.

The 19X service stops at the following places:
Betws-y-Coed, Platform 2
Zip World, A470
Watling Street, Llanrwst
Cross Keys, Glan Conwy
Llandudno Junction, Platform 5
Hospital Road, Llandudno
Llandudno, Stop B/Y

Llew Jones said its decision to end the T19 service was due to it becoming ?increasingly financially unviable?.

Janet Finch-Saunders, Aberconwy MS, then launched a petition calling for Welsh Government, Conwy County Borough Council, and Gwynedd Council to cooperate to offer a package of financial support to save the T19 service.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 15, 2023, 10:12:16 am
'Good chance' Bodafon Farm Park will remain family business

However, the 64-year-old, who also runs the Penrhyn Arms in Penrhynside, said he hopes it remains as "some sort of family oriented business."

He said: "I don?t know if it will, but I think there is a good chance as it does lend itself for doing that.

"People are probably worrying a bit much, especially those that think when I go the bulldozers are going to move in.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23386528.good-chance-bodafon-farm-park-will-remain-family-business/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 15, 2023, 10:44:40 am
I have met Mark Roberts a number of times and and he's a really nice guy who has put a lot of time and effort into improving the farm and I wish him all the best in his Penrhyn Arms business.
However I think that he is being very diplomatic and over optimistic with regard to the future of the farm and the farmland.
I hope to be proved wrong but Mostyn Estates will not give up on the idea of building on the farmland, because after all they have given a slice of the farmland to Anwyl Construction to build a number of houses on the farmland
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on March 16, 2023, 03:11:28 pm
Mostyn Estates would be better clearing up the mess they have left in other places EG. The Royal.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 18, 2023, 09:52:13 am
Llandudno fixer upper could be the cheapest house on sale in North Wales
The terraced house will be sold at auction next month with a guide price of just ?40k

read more https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/llandudno-fixer-upper-could-cheapest-26476155?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 26, 2023, 11:17:58 am
A well-known cab firm boss is launching a new taxi operation in Llandudno. Chris O?Neal is behind the Premier taxi name in Bangor - one of the biggest cab firms in north west Wales.

His previous operation, Premier Cars Bangor Ltd, went into liquidation last summer after being ?battered? by Covid and hit by legislation changes over self employed drivers. It left liabilities of nearly ?294,000.

But he formed Premier Group North Wales and says that this had proved a success as the economy emerged from the pandemic. Now he will launch an offshoot of the Premier brand from Council Street West in Llandudno - which he says will mean the brands will now cover from Llangefni to Colwyn Bay.

He says he plans to modernise the offer in Llandudno with digital booking points at hotels and hospitality venues so people can book them on an app.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/well-known-gwynedd-cab-boss-26553327
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 01, 2023, 10:13:31 am
I hope they stop using the car horn as a means of advertising their presence, very annoying, going on all day......... :(


A COUPLE who purchased a hotel in Llandudno last year are bringing back the Land Trains.

David Banks and his wife Claire moved into the town in June 2022 after snapping up the Promen?d B&B.

Two services will operate: Around the Great Orme and from West Shore to the Pier and back.

David said: "My wife Claire and I moved to the town in June last year when we purchased the Promenad B&B on Mostyn Crescent. We?d been coming to Llandudno for many enjoyable years as visitors and wanted a change of lifestyle.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23426121.land-trains-return-llandudno-summer-2023/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 02, 2023, 10:29:52 am
A car caught fire this morning closing a road near Llandudno. The blaze took place at Glanwyyden Lane just before noon and shut the road for more than an hour.

Aerial pictures show the remains of a burnt out car. North Wales Fire and Rescue Service attended the scene and quickly brought the fire under control.    ref DP
A fire service spokesperson said: "We received a call at 11:19am in which we were told a car was on fire on Glanwydden Lane in Glanwydden near Llandudno, Conwy. One fire engine immediately attended the scene and closed the road. There were no reports of anyone injured and North Wales Police did not attend."

"From what we can surmise there was no criminal intent, there was no road traffic collision, it was simply an electrical fault. So we can confirm that it was just an electrical fault that caused the veichle to catch fire.

"At around 1pm we left the area and the road reopened to the public."

The Welsh Ambulance Service don not attend the scene.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 04, 2023, 10:25:29 am
Major new wind farm off Llandudno gets decision deadline

One of Wales? biggest potential investments in renewable energy this decade has reached a major milestone. Awel y M?r Offshore wind farm is planned for construction off the coast of North Wales, to the west of Gwynt-y-M?r.

If constructed, the RWE wind farm will consist of a maximum of 50 turbines up to 332m high to the tip of the rotor, and be capable of generating power equivalent to the consumption of half a million homes. In comparison Gwynt-y-M?r has 160 turbines which are around 138m high.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-new-wind-farm-llandudno-26626310?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....Paddling pool site
Post by: SteveH on April 05, 2023, 10:01:06 am
OPERATORS behind a cafe bar and gift shop in Rhos on Sea are moving into a site previously leased by Apprentice winner Alana Spencer.

Darren Randle of Coast cafe bar and gift shop has taken on the tenancy. Mr Randle plans to open the new business in the next few weeks.

COAST cafe bar and gift shop posted on Facebook: "We are delighted to announce our new venture to the ever growing COAST cafe bar and gift shop, Rhos on Sea. We are hoping to be open within the coming weeks and aim to bring a new lease of life to the highly populated Paddling Pool area along Llandudno Promenade.

"Big changes are coming to the paddling pool cafe, and the community and family are our priority."   ref pioneer

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 11, 2023, 10:20:43 am
Fresh proposal for Llandudno retail and restaurant units that have stayed empty
The units are next to the new Premier Inn hotel in the town

Empty retail and restaurant units built as part of a new hotel site could become a gym under a new proposal. The former Tudno Castle hotel site in Llandudno was redeveloped into a 90 bedroom Premier Inn.

While the hotel opened last summer the units built next to it for retail or restaurant use have remained empty. Now a new proposal is being made for the site which sits between Parc Llandudno and the town?s high street. Under the plan the site would be transformed into a high quality gym facility.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fresh-proposal-llandudno-retail-restaurant-26654103?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 19, 2023, 10:13:32 am
A ROAD in Llandudno has been closed with emergency services in attendance. pioneer

Alexandra Road has been closed, with police and ambulance services in attendance.

It is believed that an air aumbulance service is also at the scene.

North Wales Police, Wales Air Ambulance and Welsh Ambulance Service have been approached for comment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....Railways and NW tourism
Post by: SteveH on April 22, 2023, 10:51:42 am
Plans to cut Llandudno?s direct train service to Manchester Airport

It comes as part of Mrs Finch-Saunders?s long-running campaign to see more direct services come to Llandudno.

This came about in response to her question to the Welsh Government on whether the impending Llandudno-Liverpool service is in addition to, or instead of, the current Llandudno-Manchester Airport/Piccadilly through service.

Lee Waters MS, deputy minister for climate change, replied: ?TfW plan to extend the current Llandudno to Manchester Airport service to operate from Bangor.

?This will increase services for North West Wales with a connection available at Llandudno Junction for passengers from Llandudno.

?TfW plan to make this change alongside the introduction of the new Llandudno to Liverpool service.?

Mrs Finch-Saunders said: ?The TfW plan to cut the direct rail service between Llandudno and Manchester International Airport proves beyond doubt that the Welsh Labour Government do not understand the tourism sector in North Wales.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23473249.plants-cut-llandudnos-direct-train-manchester-airport/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on April 22, 2023, 02:12:17 pm
See my question posted on 8th April has proved correct.  More spin from TfSW!
Best solution would be to alternate the workings between Bangor and Llandudno so each benefitted, but that would not occur in the TfSW Ivory Tower at Pontypridd.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 23, 2023, 10:05:48 am
I cannot remember if grant money is involved?  tax payers again..........

Developer collapse hits two major housing schemes in North Wales
Lane End Developments Construction were working with ClwydAlyn on 177 homes in the region

One is for 77 homes at Builder Street in Llandudno

"The two sites we have in development with Lane End are Builder Street in Llandudno and Northern Gateway in Deeside. Both sites are in the very early stages of development, and we are confident that we will still be able to deliver these much-needed homes.?

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/developer-collapse-hits-two-major-26758455
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 23, 2023, 05:31:29 pm
Best solution would be to alternate the workings between Bangor and Llandudno so each benefitted,

Now that would make sound sense.

Maybe TfW could let us know if that has been considered?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 25, 2023, 08:32:40 pm
Just read that all the local paddling pools will not open this year, due to 'slip risk'. Words fail me ! Only one person in all of the country can apparently paint them and he is ill.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on April 25, 2023, 10:34:19 pm
Nothing surprises me with CCBC.      Do you remember when CCBC painted the Craig Y Don paddling Pool with a blue paint?     The trouble was that they used the wrong type of paint and all the kids that came out of it looked like young Smurfs
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Nemesis on April 26, 2023, 09:19:29 am
 THe item actually made it onto the text items on the news last night. Slip risk ? Surely all surfaces are slippery when wet? CCBC look proper idiots announcing this litte gem just before the Extravaganza weekend. Really, are they trying to keep families at bay?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 26, 2023, 09:52:13 am
Heres someone who will not be impressed..........

OPERATORS behind a cafe bar and gift shop in Rhos on Sea are moving into a site previously leased by Apprentice winner Alana Spencer.

Darren Randle of Coast cafe bar and gift shop has taken on the tenancy.
We are hoping to be open within the coming weeks and aim to bring a new lease of life to the highly populated Paddling Pool area along Llandudno Promenade.

PADDLING pools in Craig y Don, Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr and Rhos on Sea will not be re-opening this summer.

The paddling pools normally open in May.

Conwy County Borough Council recently carried out a full safety audit of all sites. Those audits found that some areas are a high slip risk.

A spokesperson from the local authority said: "In response to the safety survey results, we planned to carry out some work to apply a specialist anti-slip coating to the surfaces, but unfortunately the only UK provider and installer is now unable to carry out the work due to sudden ill health.

"We are urgently trying to find an alternative solution or training for another contractor to carry out this essential health and safety work."

Cllr Charlie McCoubrey, leader of Conwy County Borough Council, said ?We know our paddling pools are hugely popular and we?re doing all we can to resolve the situation.

?We realise how disappointing this will be for people living in and visiting our beautiful county, but the safety of children and families using our paddling pools is our priority.?

Conwy Council is submitting funding applications to upgrade paddling pools across the county.

The spokesperson added: "We recognise what an important asset they are for our communities."  ref pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 27, 2023, 10:09:21 am
Empty Llandudno paddling pool fails to deter operator taking on cafe
Whether the paddling pools are "filled or not", Coast Cafe and Gift shop said they intend to open at the site, next to Craig-y-Don paddling pool, within the coming weeks.
cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23483570.empty-llandudno-paddling-pool-fails-deter-operator-taking-cafe/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


Conwy paddling pool closures have come at 'terrible time', says tourism chief
The council has announced that it will not be filling its paddling pools this May
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-paddling-pool-closures-come-26787166?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on April 28, 2023, 10:16:13 am
Development of seaside town centre units will 'bring 'something fresh to Llandudno'
Sion Pritchard and Rich Blake, directors of LVL5 Gyms Ltd, want to bring a fitness complex to the empty retail/restaurant units

The backers of a planned new health, exercise and wellbeing complex say it will breathe life into a seaside town centre and give the economy a welcome lift. Sion Pritchard and Rich Blake, directors of LVL5 Gyms Ltd, are awaiting a decision on plans to transform empty units next to a new Premier Inn at the former Tudno Castle hotel site in Llandudno.

They plan to create a high-quality gym, coffee and smoothie bar, changing rooms, sauna, spin zones and more. The 6,000 square metre two-floor facility will employ up to 10 people and both Sion and Rich ? who hail from Conwy county ? are hopeful their proposals for the coastal resort will be supported by the local community.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/development-seaside-town-centre-units-26776329?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 03, 2023, 10:11:26 am
EFFORTS are being ramped up to get four paddling pools deemed "too slippery" open for the summer.

Conwy County Borough Council was slammed by Darren Millar, MS for Clwyd West, after saying it would not be re-opening its pools in Craig y Don, Llanfairfechan, Penmaenmawr and Rhos on Sea as normal this May and for claiming the "only UK provider" was unable to carry out work [to apply a specialist anti-slip coating to surfaces] due to sudden ill health.

Now, after pressure from politicians and the public, the council is stepping up efforts to resolve the situation.

"We had contractual arrangements in place to undertake the work but unfortunately we have been let down at the last minute due to specific issues within the firm employed.

"We are urgently trying to find an alternative solution, including sourcing other products that meet the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) recommended requirements and ensure the safety of everyone using our paddling pools.

"In the meantime, preparatory work will be starting on site to enable the works to progress as soon as practically possible."

The council made the decision not to open its paddling pools following a full safety audit of all sites. Some areas were deemed as "a high slip risk".

Mr Millar slammed the decision and said a "simple internet search seems to suggest that there are many firms offering a solution to these sorts of problems."

He added: "They are well-used used by locals and visitors alike, so for them not to be open this summer would be disastrous ?I simply do not accept that there is no solution available in the council and urge the local authority to get its act together and try harder to rectify the problem.

?I did a quick internet search and it appears that there are a number of firms offering a solution to this issue. ?If this is not sorted quickly young children and their families will really miss out and people will simply choose to go elsewhere."

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23494212.conwy-all-can-resolve-slippery-paddling-pools/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 08, 2023, 10:02:34 am
LLANDUDNO has started to fly the European Union (EU) flag on the town?s North Shore promenade.

Currently, UK home nation flags and a number of international flags are flown during May until  September.

This year, Cllr Dr Rob Atenstaedt, who represents the town?s Tudno Ward for the Welsh Liberal Democrats, brought a proposal to the town council to add the EU flag to this number.

Cllr Atenstaedt said: ?Llandudno is a premier tourist destination for both UK and non-UK residents. A large proportion of non-UK visitors are from European nations.

?The EU has 448 million residents and by far the largest proportion of European visitors to Llandudno live in the EU.

?Llandudno also has a large number of residents who are from countries in the EU including Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Romania.

?Many of these individuals do important work in our hospitality industry and also work in care homes caring for our elderly.

?One recognised way of making an individual feel welcome is by displaying their nation?s flag.

?As there are 27 nations in the EU, it is very unlikely that the flags of the individual nations will be displayed very often.

?I was therefore delighted that the town council accepted my proposal to fly the EU flag so that we can welcome visitors and residents from the 27 EU nations.

?This will help reinforce Llandudno?s image of a town which welcomes our European visitors and residents who make such a valuable contribution to our local economy.? ref pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 09, 2023, 05:05:09 pm
Paddling pool victory after Conwy council 'finds contractor'
Senedd member Janet Finch-Saunders says council has told her that they now have someone to do the anti-slip work

I'm pleased that something is going to be done about this popular children's paddling pool.        There was no anti slip problem when I used to use the pool nearly 70 years ago so what has happened since?


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/paddling-pool-victory-after-conwy-26876443
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 10, 2023, 09:42:27 am
I'm pleased that something is going to be done about this popular children's paddling pool.        There was no anti slip problem when I used to use the pool nearly 70 years ago so what has happened since?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right now and Rhos on Sea
Post by: SteveH on May 13, 2023, 10:17:58 am
New beachfront will be 'envy of North Wales' - especially Llandudno
Dramatic photos show progress of the stunning redevelopment of Rhos on Sea promenade

Already some residents believe they have ?one of the best beaches in North Wales?. Now, as these photos show, an adjacent promenade is taking shape in the seaside town of Rhos-on-Sea, Conwy.

Last August, the new raised beach reopened after one million tonnes of seabed sand were piped ashore. But for the second part of the town?s coastal defence scheme to be completed, residents have had to wait a little longer.

In a progress report, Conwy Council said much work on the revamped promenade has been completed but more is needed. Kerbs, paving slabs and drains are currently being installed, to be followed by benches and play equipment.

cont and photo gallery ....https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-beachfront-envy-north-wales-26903691?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 15, 2023, 10:02:35 am
Builders defend record on Llandudno's 'awful' Victorian tram shelter
Brenig Construction have vowed to help bring the historic structure back to its former glory

A building firm has hit back at criticism over the "awful" state of a tram shelter in Llandudno. Brenig Construction said plans are in the works to restore the historic rectangular tram shelter on Gloddaeth Avenue and bring it "back to its former glory".

A spokesman for the company said it was ploughing ahead with the project as a "community benefit" and are not being paid to renovate the site. The defence comes after the state of the shelter was highlighted in a post on the Friends of West Shore Facebook page.

"It stood on the North Shore promenade for many years and was moved in 1928 or 1929 to its current location to make way for the band stand on North Shore. So we have a solid structure built by Victorian engineers that has lasted 150 years and a renewed roof by Brenig that lasted barely 150 days before it started to disintegrate and lapse into the state that it is in today!"

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/builders-defend-record-llandudnos-awful-26912459?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 16, 2023, 10:15:20 am
Former Fountains Bar and Caf? site in Llandudno sold for ?453,000

The site sold for almost double this at a final price of ?453,000, according to estate agent St David?s Commercial.

Several details about the deal have not yet been made public, and it is not known who has completed the purchase or what they intend to do with it.    ref pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on May 16, 2023, 02:38:29 pm
I think we have a very good idea who?s got it. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 17, 2023, 10:22:25 am
DECK chairs will be available for hire on Llandudno promenade this summer, despite having not been installed yet this year.
With weather generally improving, and with a busy summer season set to draw tourists to the resort town, members of the public had worried that there would be no deck chairs along the popular promenade.

Some had criticised the council, adding that the town had already lost its donkey rides and sandy beaches.

It also remains to be seen whether the paddling pool in Craig y Don will open this summer, with the council having secured a new contractor for paint upgrades.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23525670.council-confirms-plans-deck-chairs-llandudno-summer/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 20, 2023, 09:59:53 am
LAND trains will soon be chugging their way through Llandudno!   :)..............and beeping their car horns to attract customers  :(

David Banks and his wife Claire, who moved into the town in June 2022 after snapping up the Promen?d B&B, are bringing back the trains this May.

The West Shore Express service will make its first trip from the Pier Train Stop to the West Shore Train Stop on May 26 at 10.30am. The train will run every hour until 5.30pm.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23533373.llandudno-land-train-make-first-trip-three-years/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 21, 2023, 10:03:27 am
New 50p toilet charge at Llandudno's 'bog island' and eight other locations splits opinion
The price to spend a penny at the public loos in Conwy has gone up by 20p with the council admitting it has had to make difficult decisions to keep them open

Customers must also pay the new 50p charge - previously 30p - at toilets elsewhere in Llandudno and in Deganwy, Colwyn Bay, Llanfairfechan, Betws-y-Coed, Capel Curig, Pentroefoelas, Penmachno and Towyn. Other toilets in the county remain free to use.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-50p-toilet-charge-llandudnos-26940705
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on May 22, 2023, 09:57:26 am
A NEW group of volunteers has been formed to help return the centre of Llandudno back to its former glory.

?Friends of Mostyn Street? has been set up by residents and business owners working together to enhance the streetscape of Llandudno?s town centre and make it an even more welcoming place.

With the strong support of many businesses, the group is determined to give some sparkle back to the town and ensure it?s at its best for years to come.

It held its first public meeting in late April at Llandudno Town Hall, when about 50 people came to share their suggestions about how the centre of Llandudno could be improved.

This ranged from general weeding and repainting of railings and street furniture, to larger-scale hopes for the future, such as funding the restoration of the original feature Victorian lampposts and refurbishment of the verandas and shopfronts along the streets.

Since then, volunteers have met twice on a Wednesday for an evening of action, with up to 15 people donning tabards and gloves to clean each corner of the Carlton roundabout at the top of Mostyn Street.

The work was appreciated by passers-by, as well as the management of the new Ormo Lounge bar, who provided the group with hot drinks as a gesture of thanks and goodwill.

The aim is to focus on a specific area of Mostyn Street and the shopping streets adjacent to it each Wednesday during the summer.

Examples of streets in the area covered by the Friends of Mostyn Street include Gloddaeth Street, Lloyd Street, Madoc Street and Vaughan Street.

Gini Rivers, of Friends of Mostyn Street, said: ?Like other members of the group, I want to see a clean and presentable shopping area that we can all be proud of.

?A little bit of elbow grease and commitment each week will make the difference, banish the weeds, and remind us how lucky we are to live, work and visit Llandudno.   

?Friends of Mostyn Street has brought together people keen to put words into action and upgrade Llandudno town centre.

?I would urge anyone who can spare an hour after work to join us and help ensure our town centre remains the jewel in the crown of the queen of Welsh resorts.?

Keep Wales Tidy has strongly supported the group from the start and is providing litter-picking equipment and expertise at every step.

Anyone wishing to join the group is welcome to contact mail@friendsofmostynstreet.co.uk for further information about the location of the working party.

Working parties will take place each Wednesday evening, 5.30-6.30pm.

You can also find out more by visiting: www.fb.com/groups/FOMSLlandudno.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...Craig-y-Don paddling pool work starts
Post by: SteveH on May 23, 2023, 10:07:09 am
'Anti-slip' preparatory works take place at Craig-y-Don paddling pool

Workers were seen on site at Craig y Don paddling pool on Monday, May 22. One reader told the Pioneer that two men were stripping paint off.

Coast - who has opened its new cafe near Craig-y-Don paddling pool - posted on social media: "Great to see works have started on the paddling pool at Llandudno! It?s nice to see local business' completing local work.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23540002.anti-slip-preparatory-works-take-place-craig-y-don-paddling-pool/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? and West Shore
Post by: SteveH on May 25, 2023, 10:04:33 am
London filmmaker shoots short production in Llandudno

A WELSH-English filmmaker based in London led the shooting of a short film in Llandudno earlier this month.
Jonny Williams, a student at London Film School, filmed the short production as part of his masters course between May 16 and 20.

Despite the chosen location for filming, the piece is entitled "Sharks in Colwyn Bay".

The short film was shot at both the West Shore Beach Caf?, on Dale Road, and The Mediterranean Restaurant, on Mostyn Street.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23546239.london-filmmaker-shoots-short-production-llandudno/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on May 26, 2023, 10:02:17 am
Fire crews battle 'large' mountain blaze near Llandudno as residents told to close windows and doors
Fire fighters have been tackling the blaze at Cwm Mountain since yesterday evening

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-fire-crews-battle-large-26996490
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?..
Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2023, 10:40:28 am
A video...A Brief Wander On Llandudno Pier

This short video shows Llandudno in a good light, mostly, and the comments are positive too..........

video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSCY5tfzvjk

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 02, 2023, 09:17:32 am
NEW promenade shelters have opened on Llandudno?s North Shore beach, with funding from Welsh Government?s Brilliant Basics Scheme.

The project replaced two of the seven shelters on North Shore Promenade, opposite the St George?s Hotel and next to the paddling pool in Craig-y-Don.

The previous shelters were in poor condition, and without action, would have been at risk of closure.

Following a design consultation with stakeholders, it was agreed that the new shelters should acknowledge the town?s heritage as a Victorian holiday resort, while simultaneously providing a modern, fit for purpose facility.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/llandudno/23560890.couple-new-shelters-completed-llandudno-promenade/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 03, 2023, 10:20:37 am
A LLANDUDNO hair salon and coffee shop will both be closing this weekend, as the owners thanked the ?great? support they had received over the years.

Clinton James Hairdressing, on Vaughan Street, and Blend, on Clonmel Street, will both be closing tomorrow (June 3) after the owners said ?all good things come to an end?.

"It is with a heavy heart that we?ve come to this decision but the reasons being is just that we just no longer have enough stylist staff to fill such a big place and meet the commitment of what it is for the outgoings we have.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23565176.owners-closing-llandudno-hair-salon-coffee-shop/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


A spokesperson from North Wales Police said: "Police assisted with a medical incident on The Parade in Llandudno yesterday evening (June 1).
"The road was closed whilst emergency services attended and was reopened at around 7.50pm."

Welsh Ambulance were called but were not required.
The person made their own way to hospital.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 07, 2023, 10:08:15 am
THE return of a much-anticipated business expo and trade show in Llandudno was a major success.

More than 125 visitors attended the popular North Wales Means Business Conference at Venue Cymru.

Talks and presentations were given from prominent names in education and the private and public sectors.

There were also breakout sessions led by experts from ION Leadership and 20Twenty Leading Growth programmes, supported by the European Social Fund.

READ MORE:  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23572500.llandudno-business-expo-returns-following-covid-19-pandemic-shutdown/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 08, 2023, 09:26:54 am
GLODDAETH AVENUE SHELTER   Gogarth newsletter
It's good to see that work is now underway on refurbishing the roof on the Gloddaeth Avenue shelter.  The shelter was refurbished some time ago, however, the new roof did not fare well in the often gale-force conditions we're used to in Llandudno.

Hopefully the repaired roof will last much longer.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 09, 2023, 10:07:20 am
Meet Poppy! Llandudno's new 'Miss Alice' for 2023 / 2024

Poppy Bowen-Roberts will hold the title.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23570903.meet-poppy-llandudnos-new-miss-alice-2023-2024/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 10, 2023, 09:38:47 am
THE body of a man has been discovered in woodland near to a school in Llandudno.

Police and ambulance were called to the scene, in a woodland area by St David?s College, Llanrhos, shortly before 8pm last night (June 8).

Following the discovery, The Coroner?s Office was informed, while the death is not being treated as suspicious.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23579377.mans-body-found-woodland-area-near-llandudno-school/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on June 11, 2023, 11:07:52 pm
What's it like to be a Great Orme Tram driver?
Nigel Norman gives us the lowdown on one of the best jobs in the world

In the old days my Uncle Bob and I used to jump off the tram as it slowed down at the start of Killen's Hill, too much H & S to do it nowadays


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/whats-like-great-orme-tram-27097170
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 13, 2023, 09:54:04 am
LOOK: Llandudno Live Fest attracts huge crowds and famous faces!

CROWDS flocked to the Llandudno Live Festival on the weekend, with outstanding headline acts and famous faces braving the rain.

The festival, which aimed to raise money for a new pitch for Llandudno FC, was held on Saturday, 10 June at the club?s OPS Wind Arena home.

cont plus 25 photos https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23584500.look-llandudno-live-fest-attracts-huge-crowds-famous-faces/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on June 17, 2023, 11:04:13 am
Just seen West Shore Webcam.

What is going on with all the Tents and Lorries  ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 17, 2023, 11:49:02 am
Message on cafe FB page.....

There?s a film Crew here today - We?re Open as Usual
It?s a Film called The Gorge
First person to spot Miles Teller or Sigourney Weaver wins a free Ice Cream

https://www.facebook.com/WestShoreBeachCafeLlandudno/?locale=en_GB

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: mull on June 17, 2023, 02:05:03 pm
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 20, 2023, 09:51:23 am
THE first batch of homes at a controversial housing development will hit the market at the end of the week.

Anwyl?s Parc Bodafon, situated off Nant-y-Gamar Road, will feature 49 homes, from one-to-five bedrooms, across four-acres.

The housebuilder will also create 17 affordable homes.

Homebuyers will be able to reserve a property at the new development from June 23.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23600420.first-homes-controversial-bodafon-housing-scheme-go-sale/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 21, 2023, 10:05:13 am
A PUBLIC meeting has been arranged regarding the possible return of sand to Llandudno?s North Shore beach.

This is due to be held at 1pm on Friday, June 30 at the town?s war memorial.

Last August, Welsh Government rejected Conwy County Borough Council (CCBC)?s proposal for funding to see sand returned to Llandudno?s North Shore beach.

According to a report published by CCBC, the Welsh Government?s Flood and Coastal Erosion Risk Management branch (FCERM), stated that the return of sand to North Shore ?does not appear to provide any additional flood risk management benefits?.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23603471.llandudno-public-meeting-return-sand-north-shore-beach/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: hollins on June 21, 2023, 03:35:50 pm
Mr H got this nice photo of the Waverley this morning while out sailing.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 23, 2023, 10:08:26 am
Peak season daytime parking ban near Llandudno paddling pool will hit tourism

Conwy Council wants to stop drivers parking on a stretch of the promenade between May and September during the day

Parking would be effectively banned from 9am-6pm during the peak holiday season (May 1 ? September 30) on the Bodafon Field side of Colwyn Road, from the junction with Ffordd Sadwrn to the junction with Nant y Gamar Road. The council says the aim is to maintain the "free flow of traffic and improve road safety".

The seasonal restrictions follow a traffic regulation order consultation, which finished in March, and included wider proposals for the town. But Craig y Don councillor Frank Bradfield opposed the introduction of the restrictions.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/peak-season-daytime-parking-ban-27162291?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.............Tour of Britain 2023
Post by: SteveH on June 26, 2023, 09:46:21 am
Tour of Britain 2023
Tour of Britain is a multi-day race on the roads of Great Britain, and has a category UCI 2.1. The race was organized in 1945, since then its status has been constantly changing. In 2004 the race received its current category and since then it has been held regularly.

In 2023, the event will take place between September 3 to 10. Within these eight days, the racers will pass through a number of towns and cities with numerous chances for the fans to spectate and pitch up. The 16th edition of the tour is expected to be much more difficult. The competitors will start in Glasgow and finish in London as before. This year, the riders will have to pass as many as 1308.5 km. Although there are more hill stages, some of the participants predict that the route will not be much easier than last year. Only at the finishing two stages of the race, the riders will enjoy flat runs on the contrast to other hilly stages.

List of stages
Stage   Type   Date   Course   Distance
1   Flat   5 September   Penzance ? Bodmin   180.8 km
2   Hilly   6 September   Sherford ? Exeter   183.9 km
3   individual time trial   7 September   Llandeilo ? National Botanic Garden of Wales   18.2 km
4   Mountain   8 September   Aberaeron ? Great Orme (Llandudno)   210 km
5   Flat   9 September   Alderley Park ? Warrington   152.2 km
6   Mountain   10 September   Carlisle ? Gateshead   198 km
7   Hilly   11 September   Hawick ? Edinburgh   194.8 km
8   Hilly   12 September   Stonehaven ? Aberdeen   173 km
Total: 1310.9 km

Read more   https://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/



Scam site: https://tour-of-britain.com/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on June 26, 2023, 10:00:28 am
Something doesn't seem right there!

Website says event runs from 3 to 10 September, but the stage list runs from 5 to 12.

Website says start Glasgow and finish London ... but the stages suggest it's more like Land's End to John O'Groats.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 26, 2023, 10:22:20 am
I have tried searching for further info, but, inconclusive and confusing.   :-\
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 26, 2023, 10:55:02 am
The site linked to seems to be for the 2021 run. Beneath the heading

Tour of Britain 2023 Stages and Routes

It then has

Tour of Britain 2021  Challenging Parts

and it seems to refer to the upcoming race as the 2021 race.  Very odd.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on June 26, 2023, 04:34:41 pm
I would say a dodgy site wanting you to bet......https://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/ is the correct address.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 26, 2023, 07:03:54 pm
Yep;  it's a scam site.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 26, 2023, 07:35:22 pm
I've reported it:

"Thank you for forwarding a suspicious message to us. Timely alerts from people like you help us to act quickly and protect many more people from being affected.

As of May 31st 2023, the number of reports received stand at more than 20,995,000, with the removal of more than 129,000 scams across 235,000 URLs."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: cygnusx-1 on June 26, 2023, 10:55:57 pm
It was the first picture of CAVENDISH in his current team kit that gave it away......Astana do not compete in the Tour of  Britain. The list of teams to win....that was just as laughable.....Team Sky changed in 2019 to Ineos and most of the other teams have changed sponsors!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 27, 2023, 10:01:27 am
I would say a dodgy site wanting you to bet......https://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/ is the correct address.

Well done, definitely not a site I expected of being a scam........ :-[

I've reported it:


Ian, Thanks fot the edit.      :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on June 27, 2023, 11:41:01 am
Scammers and scams are operating at a level not seen for a while. If you get a suspicious email, send it to
report@phishing.gov.uk

Above all, don't ever, ever click on a link in an email you weren't expecting.

We've had two, persistent scam emails this week. The first was blank, other than the header and the second was more detailed:

(Note the bad grammar of the detailed scam.)



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 28, 2023, 07:53:29 am
UK chain boosts Llandudno economy as moves training academy to seaside town
Boots Hearingcare has created jobs in the resort and also brought a raft of trainees who stay in the town

Boots Hearingcare has provided a jobs and economic boost to a North Wales town after moving its training academy to the region. The brand already had a support team based in Llandudno but has now added a training centre after relocating it from Aston in Birmingham.

This has added additional jobs at offices above the Victoria Centre - which had previously been occupied by the local authority. The additional benefit is that trainees stay in Llandudno during training - putting money into hotels, shops and restaurants, particularly important during the quieter months in the resort.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/uk-chain-boosts-llandudno-economy-27211631?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on June 29, 2023, 10:16:52 am
'Largest wooden tall ship' called Tenacious spotted in Llandudno
28th June

A TALL 'pirate style' ship has been spotted in Llandudno waters.

Lesley Thompson spotted the ship at about 7.45am this morning. 28th

It is understood the ship is the Tenacious owned by the Jubilee Sailing Trust. She is described as the largest wooden tall ship of her kind in the world.

It is understood the boat has been in Llandudno overnight.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/llandudno/23619029.largest-wooden-tall-ship-called-tenacious-spotted-llandudno/

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.......Parade and RAF flypast
Post by: SteveH on June 30, 2023, 11:03:14 am
THERE will be a parade through Llandudno to mark the granting of the Honorary Freedom of the Town on the Royal Air Force Valley by Llandudno Town Council.

The Freedom was granted in 1995 in recognition of the RAF Valley?s service to their Country and this is the first Parade held for a number of years. The Parade will be led by the Band of the RAF College Cranwell.

The Parade will form up outside Llandudno Town Hall at 10.45am on Sunday, July 9.

It is expected to march off at approximately 11.20am following an inspection of the parade by the Commanding Officer RAF Valley, Group Captain Matt Hoare MA RAF; the mayor of Llandudno, Cllr Greg J T Robbins; and the Lord Lieutenant of Clwyd, H G Fetherstonhaugh OBE DL.

The parade will also feature a fly past at 11am by two Hawk aircraft.

Cllr Robbins said: ?It is a privilege and a pleasure to welcome the RAF back to Llandudno. Our relationship with RAF Valley has always been strong and this Freedom Parade allows the people of the town to show their appreciation for the work carried out by the RAF, especially in these turbulent times.?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?......North Wales paddling pools
Post by: SteveH on July 01, 2023, 10:04:30 am
North Wales paddling pools that will that will be a lifesaver this summer - when they open
A hot summer like last year is on the cards - so a dip in the pool will be refreshing

They're bound to be the perfect summer activity that will help people keep cool and avoid breaking the bank this summer. A spokesperson from the local authority previously confirmed that, once the necessary work is completed, they will assess the sites and share the opening dates. Until that time comes, here is all the information you'll need to know - from getting to the pools and what is and isn't around them:

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-paddling-pools-lifesaver-27231545?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 07, 2023, 09:55:48 am
Friends of Mostyn Street FB news
Wednesday evening saw another great turnout for Friends of Mostyn Street?s mission to help return the centre of Llandudno back to its former glory. Welcome to our new members and the businesses who supported us!
Although we?re called the Friends of Mostyn Street, we?re keen to ensure the whole of the town centre feels included and this week one group began work to restore the metal poppies in the flowerbeds at the Cenotaph, and another group worked our way up to the Tram Station, weeding, scraping and sweeping as we went.
As always, we?re very keen to welcome new members, so join the Facebook group, turn up and get involved. All gloves, hi-vis vests, tools provided. Just bring your elbow grease each Wednesday at 5.30pm for an hour.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 08, 2023, 10:09:59 am
Why do we bother, a FB photo of the new shelter on the prom..............apparently smells like a toilet too   :o
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Meleri on July 09, 2023, 02:04:08 pm
I haven't been to Llandudno in a good while so was shocked & saddened to see how shabby it has become. Not only that, while parked in the Town Hall car park waiting for me, Mr M saw 2 men go behind the public toilets & urinate in a corner. Their excuse was the toilets were closed, this was Tuesday morning at 11.30. Does anyone know if they have closed for good?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 12, 2023, 10:23:37 am
Sorry to hear about your experience Meleri and I hope that it doesn't put you off coming here again.    I'm afraid that they live amongst us unfortunately

We had a flaming June which was great but the flaming CCBC are still at it          We had the Smurfs last time the paddling pool was painted so I wonder what colour it'll be next



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/work-paddling-pools-progressing-well-27300030



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 12, 2023, 10:34:51 am
Work on paddling pools 'progressing well' but questions remain over whether they'll be open for summer
Conwy Council has given an update on the pools amid online speculation of further delays

Feverish speculation over Conwy?s paddling pools has been quashed by the local authority. Delivery of a specialist coating is expected ?soon?, fuelling hopes the popular pools may reopen later this summer.

Social media fears had been rising of another hiccup in a saga that began when Conwy Council announced in April it would not be filling its four paddling pools this season. The authority has been let down by a firm that was due to carry out safety work.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/work-paddling-pools-progressing-well-27300030?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 12, 2023, 10:57:20 am
Sorry Hugo, for duplicating your post......  :-[
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 12, 2023, 02:25:42 pm
No problem Steve.    It's usually me that duplicates your posts but at least great minds think alike       ;D
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....More film crews
Post by: SteveH on July 13, 2023, 09:44:47 am
ITV filming in Llandudno for 'shocking' drama series on Post Office scandal
Several locations in the town have been scouted for the four-part series which features Captain America and Harry Potter actor Toby Jones

Film cameras will return to Conwy next week to highlight the biggest miscarriage of justice in British legal history. A street in Llandudno will be emptied for two days to enable filming of a major new ITV drama series about a Post Office scandal that saw hundreds of sub-postmasters wrongfully prosecuted for theft and false accounting.

The four-part series shines a spotlight on Alan Bates, the Craig-y-Don sub-postmaster who took on the Post Office and, against the odds, won a multi-million-pound legal case. He will be played by Captain America and Harry Potter actor Toby Jones. Joining him are the likes of Julie Hesmondhalgh, Alex Jennings and Ian Hart.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/itv-filming-llandudno-shocking-drama-27306613
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 15, 2023, 10:05:50 am
AN ARTIST from Llandudno says he feels blessed to feature on a BBC arts programme depicting his work with an NHS trauma surgeon.

Nick Elphick, a figurative sculptor still based in Llandudno, was tasked with creating a portrait of inspirational London trauma surgeon Martin Griffiths, and will appear on BBC One?s Extraordinary Portraits presented by Bill Bailey.

Nick is the first artist to feature in the new series, and the episode sees the artist and Martin share their incredible stories and follows the relationship that develops between them as they work on the project.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23656802.llandudno-artist-appear-bbcs-extraordinary-portraits/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 20, 2023, 09:41:31 am
Bulldog with 'Hannibal Lecter death mask' who prowls Llandudno streets but is just a 'sweetheart'
Lenny wears the intimidating muzzle because of his penchant for eating sticks - but his owner is worried people will get the wrong idea

t home, Lenny the English Bulldog is gentle, kind and really quite handsome. Out on walks along Llandudno promenade, he comes across very differently, thanks to what Lenny?s owner calls his ?Hannibal Lecter death mask?.

Worried what people might think, Caroline Burnell took to social media to explain they have nothing to fret about. Despite his menacing appearance, she said there is no need to cross the street if they see him loping towards them.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bulldog-hannibal-lecter-death-mask-27354531?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 21, 2023, 10:07:09 am
Llandudno Grade II listed building and tea room is put up for sale

A PROPERTY in Llandudno currently occupied by a tea room has been placed on the market.

?Haulfre Gardens?, on Cwlach Road, is available via estate agents St Davids Commercial, with a guide price set of ?750,000 on a freehold basis.

The Grade II listed building was built in 1865 for Sir Thomas Lipton, and then from 1871 to 1876 was owned by Henry Pochin, then Johnny Walker, the whiskey distiller.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23670477.llandudno-grade-ii-listed-building-tea-room-put-sale/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 23, 2023, 05:39:50 pm
I was driving past the paddling pool in Craig Y Don on Thursday and looked at the repair work going on there.      By the looks of it,  I don't think that the paddling pool will be finished before the holiday season has ended.    What a shame for the young locals and visitors
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on July 23, 2023, 07:20:10 pm
We all know it won?t get done Hugo. So all the money they have wasted doing what they have done will have to be redone next year. 😡,,, we walked along rhos prom the other week some of the new railings are very rusty already,, it?s ok it?s not their money,,, oh it ours. 😡
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 24, 2023, 12:16:43 pm
I wonder if CCBC could immediately open the paddling pool for this year and carry out the work during the winter months?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....Bodafon Farm last holiday
Post by: SteveH on July 25, 2023, 10:16:08 am
A POPULAR farm park which is closing later this year has opened its gates to visitors for its "last summer holiday".

Bodafon Farm Park is set to close in October.

Mark Roberts, owner of the site, is semi-retiring.

The attraction posted on Facebook on Monday, July 24: "Free entry to Conwy County Residents 2023. Open every day for our last summer holidays. Farm park 10am until 5pm. Cafe 11am until 4pm. You don't need to book.

"Serving out on our courtyard garden with large canopy or inside the restaurant. dogs on a lead are welcome. in Llandudno opens for 'last summer holiday'

A POPULAR farm park which is closing later this year has opened its gates to visitors for its "last summer holiday".

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23675433.bodafon-farm-llandudno-opens-last-summer-holiday/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on July 29, 2023, 09:52:34 am
HOMEBUYERS will be welcomed to a new sales centre at Anwyl?s Parc Bodafon development in Llandudno on Saturday, August 5.

Site plan, prices and photos https://www.anwylhomes.co.uk/our-developments/parc-bodafon/

The housebuilder is opening its doors on site for the first time, with interested purchasers urged to book an appointment with the sales team.

Current prices at Parc Bodafon are from ?399,995 for a four-bedroom detached Farndon property type.

cont https://www.wales247.co.uk/new-llandudno-development-opens-its-doors
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on July 29, 2023, 12:09:16 pm
I wonder how much the "affordable homes" are on this site?         Can't wait to see what Anwyl have in store for the Penmorfa building site
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now? .....Lancaster bomber visit
Post by: SteveH on July 29, 2023, 03:15:29 pm
Perfect spot in my garden, I watched it come over the Bay, then North Shore right over head to West Shore, heading for Valley?

stock photo will check for updates
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....NW Tourism grant
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2023, 09:32:41 am
The North Wales tourism projects to benefit from more than ?1.4m in Welsh Government funding
Replacing shelters along Llandudno's promenade and upgrading toilets in Gwynedd and Anglesey are among projects to benefit

North Wales tourism projects have won a share of the Welsh Government?s ?5m Brilliant Basics Fund. The cash injections were confirmed on Thursday by Deputy Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism Dawn Bowden.

In total 29 tourism infrastructure projects across Wales have received investment from the fund, which helps deliver small-scale tourism infrastructure improvements. Nine projects in North Wales are receiving handouts of between ?29,000 - ?300,000, totalling more than ?1.4m.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-tourism-projects-more-27449974?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 05, 2023, 10:05:36 am
A POPULAR ice cream parlour in Llandudno has been named one of the 10 tastiest shops by the sea.

Parisella?s Cafeteria, on Happy Valley Road, placed in The Times' top 10 ?tastiest ice-cream shops by the sea?.

The Times said of the business: ?In operation for seven decades, the family-run Parisella?s has a few parlours across North Wales.

?Its Llandudno caf? arguably affords the best vistas ? the Irish Sea is straight ahead, punctuated by a Victorian pier jutting out into the water.
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23699412.family-run-llandudno-ice-cream-shop-named-uks-top-10/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 05, 2023, 11:46:44 am
On a sunny day it's one of the best spots in Llandudno for a cafe.    I must admit that I'm slightly addicted to Parisella's ice cream and my favourite  flavour is Amaretto and Black Cherry.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 05, 2023, 04:43:22 pm
Hugo ... have you tried the Bara Brith flavour from Parisellas? - available where I work, you know where, so easy to become addicted!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 05, 2023, 05:46:28 pm
Thanks DVT,  I'll remember that next time I'm there.    I did manage an Almond and Black Cherry ice cream last time and it was delicious
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 06, 2023, 10:17:39 am
Zip wires and crazy golf among ideas to turn 'scruffy' Llandudno site into Great Orme gateway
Consultants and members of the public have made a series of suggestions for the resort's hillside Colonnade

Ambitious ideas have been put forward to reinvent a ?scruffy? structure in Llandudno as a vibrant gateway to the Great Orme. By introducing evening markets and street performers, the Grade II-listed Colonnade could reinvigorate the resort?s nighttime economy and enhance year-round tourism, according to consultants.

The two-tier structure winds its way 170m up the Great Orme headland towards Happy Valley park, giving superb views over Llandudno Pier and North Shore beach. It was opened in 1932 by Mostyn Estates but as it approaches its centenary, it is said to be ?poorly maintained? with leaks, rotten ironwork and damaged stonework.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/zip-wires-crazy-golf-among-27462359?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2023, 10:20:59 am
News from Friends of Mostyn St. FB page

🥵 Last night was a busy one for the Friends of Mostyn Street.
😃 August visitors are the lifeblood of this town, and has been so since the Victorian era, when the first hotel opened.  As residents we both need and welcome them. If we had one request it would be: to respect the environment. Let?s keep Llandudno beautiful so it can be enjoyed for decades to come. 👍
😕Sadly some people were seen throwing rubbish over their shoulders into the bushes, our guys fished it out & binned it, but sadly some saw no reason to ?do the right thing?. 😳🤞🧤
🚮Our patient team split up, swept litterpicked (& gum & cigarette butt picked 🤢😷). Myself, Angie and Peter cleaned outside the Carlton, where rubbish was behind the bin! 🤷‍♀️ See before and after images.
🧭Lots of folk stopped us for directions & recommendations & were grateful for our efforts. It did feel good to make the difference and keep on top of cleanliness, as well as visually promoting everyone to do their bit in keeping Llandudno beautiful.
🦺Work at the War Memorial metal fencing chips on. While off site the Metal Poppy Restoration continues with our young volunteer ensuring it will last a little longer until we can look at new ones? 🌺🌺
🤗The Llandudno Rock Shop clocked that we were flagging in the heat & provided much needed bottles of water 💦 THANK YOU 😊 👏

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2023, 02:55:38 pm
Thank goodness we have such hard working volunteers like everyone who is part of the Friends of Mostyn Street group.   The volunteers don't often get the credit they deserve but it would be nice if the litter louts were made to spend some time picking up the mess other people have made
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on August 11, 2023, 04:48:06 pm
Thing is Hugo 3 or 4 of them are county and town councillors, one of them is never seen on her ward. They should be demanding the council did the job properly,  walking around town this morning it is a mess, where they planted them trees along Lloyd st weeds are growing and rubbish around them.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2023, 10:38:23 pm
You know the town and the people better than I do Norman but even so the Councillors didn't have to help out with the cleaning but you're right on the fact that the Councillors should insist on the council doing the job properly in the first place
If only the visitors and locals alike treated the place with respect and put the litter in the litter bins there would be no need to rely on these volunteers
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on August 11, 2023, 11:15:47 pm
Wonder how much fine this'll get, took up 4 parking spaces outside Victoria Centre - must have been there early to get four spaces in a row, and this pic was taken mid afternoon!  Advert on the other side was for a taxi company.  Hope the extra business gained was enough to cover the parking fine!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.......Tourists littering our beaches
Post by: SteveH on August 13, 2023, 10:14:29 am
Note this article is from the Nottingham post...........?

Residents blast 'dirty pig' tourists for littering on beaches - leaving cigarettes, filthy nappes and plastic
Coastal communities have hit out at disrespectful visitors for littering and inconsiderate parking

t's safe to say we haven't seen a great deal of sunshine this summer. But on the rare days it is sunny, tourists are hitting their local beaches.

But sadly they are leaving a great deal of litter behind. Costal communities behind have hit out at 'dirty pig' tourists, with residents in North Wales saying people are leaving behing fags, 'sh*t-filled' nappies, and plastic.

cont https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/uk-world-news/residents-blast-dirty-pig-tourists-8674013?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589



Drone images show progress at Llandudno's Parc Bodafon

The housing development, situated off Nant-y-Gamar Road in Llandudno, will feature 49 homes across four-acres.

Seventeen of the properties will be 'affordable homes.'

Construction work by Anwyl began in May and the first homes will be ready to move into in early 2024.

GeoView Drones took this image of the construction site.

A new sales centre at the housing development opened in August and the first wave of homes are on sale.

cont video https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23718339.drone-images-show-progress-llandudnos-parc-bodafon/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 15, 2023, 09:46:29 am
A GRADE II listed structure on Llandudno?s Great Orme hillside is set to be transformed into a space for activities and business.

Conwy County Borough Council has secured ?300,000 in funding from Welsh Government to carry out repairs and a refurbishment to areas of Llandudno, including Llandudno Colonnade.

The two-tier structure, which leads up to the Great Orme headland, was opened in 1932 by Mostyn Estates, but has been poorly maintained, with damage to stonework and ironwork in disrepair.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23721961.llandudno-colonnade-refurbished-activities-use/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...
Post by: SteveH on August 16, 2023, 10:19:01 am
THE SITE of a former luxury jewellery and watch store in Llandudno has gone on the market, three years after the business closed.

The building that was once home to Gimberts, at 94 Mostyn Street, has gone on the market with St David?s Commercial.

Gimberts had traded in the resort town for more than 40 years until its abrupt closure in 2020, having failed to reopen after the New Year break, and with no message to customers.

Once stocked with luxury jewellery and watches, and well-known for its fine china, the site has lay empty since but the sign remains.

The property has been described as in a ?prime? location by the estate agent, who have valued it at ?285,000, with an option for a minimum two-year lease for ?20,000 a year.

The building is made up of three floors, with additional basement storage, which can be used for retail, offices and accommodation.

ref pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.........FIREWORKS display
Post by: SteveH on August 17, 2023, 10:21:32 am
FIREWORKS will be once again be lighting up the skies above Llandudno this October.    ref pioneer

Despite the annual commemoration of Guy Fawkes Night being observed on November 5, it is becoming a tradition for Llandudno to hold its event is October.

This is due to the beach event being "very tide dependent".

This year the display will return on Sunday, October 29 at 5.30pm on Llandudno's North Shore beach.

A spokesperson from Llandudno Town Council, who organise the event, said: "Should adverse weather conditions prevent the display from going ahead on this date, then the display will be held the night after (again weather permitting), on Monday, October 30 starting at 5.45pm.

"This beach event is very tide dependent, with at least an hour being required in advance of the display to safely set up on the beach (at around 150 metres from the promenade) and a suitable time following the approximate 20-minute display to safely remove equipment from the beach.

"Tides and operating times are, therefore, carefully, and thoroughly assessed.

"We would like to thank Mr Adam Williams of Llandudno Pier for his generous support in providing all the machinery and manpower to ensure the event goes ahead and to Conwy County Borough Council for their support.

"This major event couldn?t proceed without the strong partnership between the Town Council, Adam Williams and Conwy County Borough Council."

Attendees are asked to look out for collectors on the night.

The spokesperson said: "Donations will contribute towards the cost of the display."

Llandudno Town Council say fireworks, including sparklers, are not permitted within the event site.

A road closure will again be in place for the Promenade Road from 12-noon until 9pm.

The spokesperson said: "The council apologises in advance for any disruption this may cause and asks the public to please understand that this road closure is required to ensure they can enjoy another great display in a safe environment.

"The event is subject to weather conditions and announcements will be made closer to the date on our Facebook page Llandudno Fireworks Display and on the Llandudno Town Council website www.Llandudno.gov.uk."

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 18, 2023, 10:17:57 am
A BEER festival is coming to Llandudno next month, where people can immerse themselves in a world of hops and barley.

The Festival of Beer will be held at Llandudno FC?s OPS Wind Arena stadium on September 30, in a bid to raise money for the club?s pitch.

?1 of every ticket sold will also go to St David?s Hospice.

Tickets for the Festival of Beer, which runs from 12pm until 11pm, cost ?10.

A Llandudno FC spokesperson said: ?Get ready to savour a frothy and flavourful adventure at the Festival Of Beer.

?Your ticket grants you access to an unforgettable celebration of craft beer, community, and camaraderie.

?Join us for an experience that tantalizes your taste buds, and immerses you in a world of hops and barley.?     ref pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 23, 2023, 08:44:14 am
Future of Llandudno's 'dangerous blight' beach looks set to be debated in Senedd
Petition launched in a bid to bring sand back to North Shore beach set to hit 10,000 signatures


Is it too little, too late?      How can the CCBC be allowed to make catastrophic decisions on Llandudno's two beaches and not be accountable fot the mistakes.    Llandudno Councillors who sat in on those planning meetings should be ashamed of themselves


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/future-llandudnos-dangerous-blight-beach-27573819
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2023, 09:55:57 am
A MAN whose restaurant in Llandudno closed late last year has since gone on to help set up a new film company in the town.

Bobby Sirrah was a business partner of Bistro Bach, on Mostyn Avenue, Craig-y-Don, for six years, until it ceased trading last November.

And though he admitted its closure, which was due to financial issues, was ?soul-destroying?, he and some childhood friends have since founded film collective ?The Fifth Branch?.

Since closing the restaurant, Bobby has worked on some ?very high-profile productions?, with more lined up

The film collective, he said, is specifically focused on promoting North Wales as a filming destination to draw larger productions to the area.

He said: ?We?re also focused on using local talent from actors to film crew to promote the talent that North Wales has to offer among its residents.

?Essentially, we?re pooling the talents of as many local people to work collaboratively on a single project.

?Loads of people have come forward to give their time and effort into this project.

?We?re currently looking for a large number of people to be extras in a few scenes in the upcoming weeks.?

People can sign up to be extras on the following Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/167593473013144.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23739904.former-llandudno-restaurant-owner-co-founds-new-film-company/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 26, 2023, 10:26:36 am
A MAN who is among Llandudno?s most recognisable residents is celebrating 10 years of providing free entertainment to the town.

Sam Peters, 70, is better known as Llandudno?s ?Monkey Man?, given he?s often seeing pushing two cuddly toy monkeys in a pram.

Born just outside Birmingham, Sam first visited North Wales when he spent a week in Penmaenmawr each year in the 1950s and ?60s; he then moved to Llandudno 11 years ago.

He likes to feel as though he, along with wife and co-entertainer Amanda, is ?giving something back to the public?, after they helped him ? literally ? get back on his feet after he had to learn to walk again following a stroke.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23748215.llandudnos-monkey-man-marks-decade-entertainment/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on August 30, 2023, 10:10:29 am
LLANDUDNO'S annual Goldwing Light Parade will be revving into town this weekend.

More than 150 bikers will be lighting up the streets on Saturday, September 2.

The parade, will has been going for more than 10 years, will start at 8pm.

A poster promoting the event said: "8pm will be the start of the rolling parade with lights and music and colourful LED light displays including some riders in costume and many flags fluttering behind bikes."

Visitors can come and view the static display on the prom between 10am and 4pm. There will be classic and new bikes as well as trikes.

Dave Crowley, former chair of the Light Parade committee who is still an active Goldwinger, said: "Bikes will be on show from 10am until 4pm and the mayor of Llandudno, cllr Greg Robbins, will be judging the Best Trike and Best Solo Goldwing (Mayors Choice). At 7.30pm, we will have a fancy dress competition. This will be for Goldwingers only. We will be pulling off for the main light parade at 8pm sharp. All of the roads in town will be barriered off and a full road closure will be in place from 7.30pm to 9.30pm.

full details https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23752967.annual-honda-gold-wings-parade-light-llandudno---2023/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2023, 02:29:43 pm
I drove past the Paddling Pool in Craig Y Don today and could see a mini digger, dumper truck and other machinery there as well as a few workmen.    If the progress continues at this rate, I am confident that the work will be completed in time for the Spring Bank Holiday 2024.
What did surprise me was that among the dust and dirt there were a few people sat down by the cafe having teas or coffees.    Such a vast expanse of a promenade and yet those people chose to sit by a building site that has become an eyesore
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 01, 2023, 09:15:49 am
Conwy paddling pools 'fiasco' continues amid claim they will be shut until 2024
Children are set to return to school next week and the work has not been completed


Seems like I might have been correct with my prediction but let's hope that they don't paint it in a Smurf blue colour again


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-paddling-pools-fiasco-continues-27626111
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 01, 2023, 10:13:35 am
Not excusing the situation, but there is talk, that the condition of the pool was not suitable for a quick fix, as the cement base was compromised ?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 03, 2023, 09:50:00 am
HUNDREDS of people lined the streets of Llandudno when Honda Goldwings motorbikes roared into town for the annual parade.


The bikes had been on static display during the day on the town's prom.

When darkness started to fall, the bikes - in all their luminescent glory - revved into town. Music blarred and horns were tooted.

Many riders wore fancy dress - characters included the Smurfs, pandas, Minnie Mouse, Spiderman and there were a few spooky skeletons!

Raffle tickets were sold. Proceeds will be donated to Welsh Air Ambulance.

Prior to the event, Dave Crowley, former chair of the Light Parade committee who is still an active Goldwinger, said: "We are expecting up to 150 bikes/trikes on show and for the parade. After the road parade, we muster on the prom for 'Best Solo Bike and Best trike' judging.

"Most people stay in town from Friday until Sunday. The council say the event is one of the main events of Llandudno's year earning more than ?2million to the town over the weekend."    pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 06, 2023, 08:47:40 am
Llandudno Poundland unit sold by investor who snaps up former M&Co stores
Knightsbridge House Estates sold the former M&S satellite store in the summer

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-poundland-unit-sold-investor-27661032?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 07, 2023, 09:31:47 am
I watched this programme a few weeks ago, but if you missed it, try BBC iPlayer..........

Llandudno artist sculpts amazing portraits of acclaimed surgeon for BBC show
Nick Elphick from Llandudno, brought tears to the eyes of London surgeon Dr Martin Griffiths

A renowned North Wales artist brought tears to the eyes of an acclaimed inner-city trauma surgeon, when he sculpted him for TV show Extraordinary Portraits.

Nick Elphick, a former Coleg Menai student, was the first sculptor to be selected for the BBC programme, presented by comedian, musician and art lover Bill Bailey.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-artist-sculpts-amazing-portraits-27668123

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2023, 09:20:21 am
THE four paddling pools in Conwy county are to re-open next year after refurbishment work.

Conwy County Borough Council said it has ?invested heavily? in the pools this year to ensure their future is secure, though delays have been caused by supply issues and wet weather.

Cllr Aaron Wynne, cabinet member for culture and leisure, said ?Given the poor weather this August and the level of repairs that have been needed, the work has taken longer than anticipated.

?The paddling pools normally close at the end of September and, to avoid further uncertainty, we have taken the decision not to re-open the pools this year, which will allow all the work to be completed to the highest standard.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23777954.conwys-paddling-pools-re-open-next-year-following-refurbishment/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 09, 2023, 10:06:14 am

Cllr Aaron Wynne, cabinet member for culture and leisure, said ?Given the poor weather this August and the level of repairs that have been needed, the work has taken longer than anticipated.

?The paddling pools normally close at the end of September and, to avoid further uncertainty, we have taken the decision not to re-open the pools this year, which will allow all the work to be completed to the highest standard.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23777954.conwys-paddling-pools-re-open-next-year-following-refurbishment/

It does make sense not to reopen the Paddling Pool this year but it would have made more sense if the work was started in the Spring in readiness for completion for this year's tourist trade.     
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on September 09, 2023, 11:52:15 am
Hugo what annoys me is the councillors are letting the council managers get away with all these things,   They new they were not going to open them this year,  what they are doing at Craig y don pool they do every year ( on a smaller scale ). They say they had nobody to do the work, they are the same lot that do the work every year,,,, but they were working on other council big jobs,,   They will finish Craig y don soon at a great cost the way they have been doing it,  winter comes and We All know what happens so Our money will be used to put right what damage the winter storms do ready for the season.      Don?t know if you have walked along by the Cayley prom but lots of the new railings have rusted and cracked. Shocking. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on September 09, 2023, 01:34:08 pm
Looking back, it seems the same department is involved in several curious issues over the past few years:

The Mochdre Building built on a former river bed
The Maesdu Bridge over-run
The Conwy Bridge over-run (painting again!)
The stones - need I say more ?
The Paddling Pools
The Eirias Pitch

There may well be others that readers are aware of, but a common thread seems to be a lack of accountability.
Still, we can all breath a collective sigh of relief that Nigel Smith is now in charge of finance!!!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?........Memorial benches
Post by: SteveH on September 10, 2023, 09:45:05 am
North Wales council says why it's halted applications
The county is full of places where families have made unforgettable

A council in North Wales has explained why it has halted new applications for memorial benches at its beauty spots. Conwy is full of wonderful places to visit and locals and visitors create unforgettable memories at places like Llandudno.

It means when a loved one passes away family sometimes to want to remember them at the places they adored. This has seen a large number of memorial benches on promenades and other beauty spots - with West Shore particularly packed.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-council-says-its-27665540
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 11, 2023, 11:01:39 am
Llandudno: Restoring sandy beach would boost resort, backers say

Someones bright idea and then backed by the CCBC has cost the taxpayers millions of pounds and ruined two beaches in the process


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66761962
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?........Memorial benches
Post by: DaveR on September 12, 2023, 03:16:49 pm
North Wales council says why it's halted applications
The county is full of places where families have made unforgettable

A council in North Wales has explained why it has halted new applications for memorial benches at its beauty spots. Conwy is full of wonderful places to visit and locals and visitors create unforgettable memories at places like Llandudno.

It means when a loved one passes away family sometimes to want to remember them at the places they adored. This has seen a large number of memorial benches on promenades and other beauty spots - with West Shore particularly packed.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-council-says-its-27665540
Perhaps people could be asked to sponsor tree planting, flower displays etc instead?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 13, 2023, 09:36:53 am
MAELGWYN ROAD CAR PARK
Two years ago McCarthy Stone announced that they had acquired an interest in Maelgwyn Road Car Park, off Gloddaeth Avenue, and that they were proposing a large block of flats for the site.  We ran a petition against the redevelopment which was signed by hundreds of local people.  Conwy County Borough Council subsequently announced that they were against the redevelopment, which could see a net loss 160 car parking spaces near the town centre.

We were really concerned when the Council recently notified us that the car park would be closed between 11 September and 15 September for McCarthy Stone to carry out initial ground works.

We'll continue to oppose the redevelopment of this site, and campaign for it to remain a public car park.  We'll aim to keep residents updated as and when we receive more information.     ref Local Gogarth Councilors news letter
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2023, 11:00:40 am
Big-screen adventure is coming to Llandudno!

The Banff Mountain Film Festival is returning this autumn, bringing another night of adrenaline-packed adventure films to Venue Cymru, Llandudno, on October 4.

The festival features new collections of the world?s best adventure films, with extreme climbing, mountain-biking, highlining and more! Audiences can expect extreme journeys, inspirational characters and captivating cinematography, up on the big screen.

With wild journeys, adrenaline-packed challenges and incredible cinematography, the tour features two new collections of inspirational films from remote areas of the planet.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23786723.big-screen-adventure-returns-llandudno-autumn/


Not forgeting the extreme mobility scooter race around the Orme......... 8)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2023, 01:51:49 pm
THE BUILDING occupied by Mountain Warehouse in Llandudno has gone on the market for almost 1million.  ref pioneer

The 74 Mostyn Street site is home to one of the more than 300 of the outdoor retailer?s stores, selling equipment for hiking, camping, skiing, cycling, running and fitness.

The property is now on the market with estate agent St Davids Commercial, for a price of 935,000 plus VAT.

Described as a superb investment property, Mountain Warehouse is four years into a 10-year lease which ends in 2029 (which the chain may choose to renew).

The building boasts a ground floor which extends to 270.94 square metres, as well as first floor office space and a lift shaft that extends to some 437 square feet.

St Davids Commercial said of the property: Superb investment property let to Mountain Warehouse on a full, repairing and insuring lease from 1st July 2019, on a 10-year lease term at a passing rent of 75,000 per annum plus VAT.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 15, 2023, 04:10:52 pm
Lovely building, orginally built as the St Georges Hall, Llandudno's first theatre. Bit overpriced at ?935k though.

How it looked in the 1890s:

(http://threetownsforum.co.uk/copperminegallery/albums/userpics/10001/9/normal_ST_GEORGES_HALL_THEATRE_1890S.jpg)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 19, 2023, 10:17:34 am
A FARM park that has been a hit with families for more than two decades will close at the end of this week.

Bodafon Farm Park will close its gates to customers for the final time on Sunday, September 24.

Owner of the farm Mark Roberts is semi-retiring. His lease with Mostyn Estates has also come to an end. He will be leaving the site in January.

The attraction, which is a working farm and is home to The Owls Trust as well as goats, deer and llama, is offering free entry to guests for its last month of opening. It is open this week from Wednesday - Sunday, 11am until 4pm

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23795617.llandudnos-bodafon-farm-park-close-gates-sunday/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on September 19, 2023, 04:46:26 pm
A FARM park that has been a hit with families for more than two decades will close at the end of this week.

Bodafon Farm Park will close its gates to customers for the final time on Sunday, September 24.

Owner of the farm Mark Roberts is semi-retiring. His lease with Mostyn Estates has also come to an end. He will be leaving the site in January.

The attraction, which is a working farm and is home to The Owls Trust as well as goats, deer and llama, is offering free entry to guests for its last month of opening. It is open this week from Wednesday - Sunday, 11am until 4pm

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23795617.llandudnos-bodafon-farm-park-close-gates-sunday/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Will be interesting to see what happens with the site.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 19, 2023, 10:31:58 pm
That's what worries me, as I know that the landowner is not interested  in keeping the land for farming
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on September 20, 2023, 02:02:16 pm
The current site is an eyesore with all sorts of rubbish and wrecked vehicles littering the place. It needs a total re-vamp.
personally I don't see it being built on for housing any time soon but I might be wrong, a tourism based use would make more sense.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 20, 2023, 05:18:19 pm
. personally I don't see it being built on for housing any time soon but I might be wrong, a tourism based use would make more sense.

I hope that you are right Dave but remember this is Mostyn Estates' land and they will do anything to get this farmland turned into a housing estate.
Just wait until Anwyl finish building those houses and it won't be long afterwards before planning applications are made.   I just hope that I'm wrong but watch this space
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....Giant wind farm
Post by: SteveH on September 21, 2023, 09:26:09 am
Giant wind farm off Llandudno given go-ahead by UK Government
Awel y M?r Offshore Wind Farm is the biggest renewable investment for a decade

A giant wind farm off the coast of North Wales has been given the go-ahead by UK Government. Secretary of State for Energy Security and Net Zero, Claire Coutinho has granted consent to RWE?s Awel y M?r Offshore Wind Farm, which will be sited off the coast of Llandudno.

It would be Wales? largest renewable energy investment this decade and be located alongside the operational 576 megawatt (MW) Gwynt y M?r Offshore Wind Farm. RWE say it will create hundreds of skilled jobs during construction and operation, both directly and throughout the supply chain.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/giant-wind-farm-llandudno-given-27753795?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 22, 2023, 10:00:23 am
LLANDUDNO?s high street has undergone a rigorous cleaning process, thanks to the hard work of a community group.   ref  pioneer

Members of The Friends of Mostyn Street group were ?out in force? to weed, clear and sweep the area in front of the library and Victoria Centre.

Benches, railings and other areas were cleared of leaves and rubbish, leaving impressive before and after shots.

The group meet each Wednesday for an hour, and are looking for new members.

A spokesperson for the group said: ?The Friends of Mostyn Street were out in force again this evening, weeding, clearing and sweeping.

?We swept the leaves and rubbish from under the circular benches and scraped the weeds from there and underneath the benches and railings outside the Victoria Centre.

?We?re always looking for new joiners and meet each week for an hour.

?We provide all tools, gloves etc., you just provide your labour to whatever level you?re able. All ages and abilities are given a very warm welcome!?

More photos https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23805485.community-group-cleans-huge-areas-llandudno-high-street/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589#gallery2
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like.....Archaeologist talks on Iron Age Hillforts
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2023, 09:49:03 am
AN ARCHAEOLOGIST will deliver a talk in Llandudno next month, entitled ?Discovering the Hillforts of Iron Age Wales?.

Dr Toby Driver, senior archaeologist at the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales, will give the talk on Thursday, October 12.

It has been arranged by social enterprise Ships' Timbers, and will be held at Assembly Hall at Llandudno Town Hall, on Lloyd Street.

Debbie Wareham, chair of Ships' Timbers, said: ?Ships? Timbers was delighted to receive some funding from Welsh Government?s Social Isolation and Loneliness programme in order for people to take part in activities, and attend events related to local archaeology, heritage, and the natural environment.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23807235.archaeologist-give-llandudno-talk-wales-iron-age-hillforts/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 23, 2023, 11:20:27 am
That should be an interesting talk with Toby Driver.    Apart from the hillforts in Conwy there are a number of good examples of hill forts on the hills in the Vale of Clwyd and the best one of all must be Tre'r Ceiri on the Llyn Peninsular which is well worth seeing if you are interested in hill forts   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre%27r_Ceiri









Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 26, 2023, 10:32:56 am
Spotted this on Saturday, but could not read the message..................

A PERSON made a unique marriage proposal to their partner using a sky banner that flew over Llandudno.   pioneer

The banner, which read ?Vishenka will you marry me?? followed by a love heart, was seen flying over the town and the Great Orme by residents on Saturday, 23 September.

While it remains unknown if Vishenka accepted the proposal, residents took to social media to congratulate the couple.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on September 27, 2023, 05:45:58 pm
Road on Llandudno's Great Orme closed due to 'excavation' work on property
Conwy Council has put up signs to warn people of the closure




https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/road-llandudnos-great-orme-closed-27790934
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on September 29, 2023, 09:58:43 am
LIVE - Air ambulance lands on Llandudno promenade      Ref DP
Witnesses say that police and road ambulances are also in the town

Welsh Ambulance Service update
The Welsh Ambulance Service has released this statement:

We were called yesterday (28 September), at approximately 5:02pm, to reports of an incident on South Parade, Llandudno.

?We sent one emergency ambulance, one air ambulance and one duty operational manager to the scene

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 12, 2023, 09:36:36 am
'Exciting' regeneration plan 'could change the face' of Llandudno
Ideas range from pop-up restaurants to electric sea gliders travelling from Liverpool

A regeneration plan which "could change the face of Llandudno" and attract young people and families to the town was backed by Conwy Council's cabinet this week. Members voted in support of the Llandudno 10 Year Regeneration Plan, a vision to target funding opportunities from Welsh Government.

The aim of the plan is to create a reinvigorated Llandudno, making it a distinctive and desirable place in which to live, invest, do business, and visit. Consequently, the plans listed in the report are aspirational, but the report will be used as a basis to target funds such as pots available from Welsh Government.

Ideas included in the report vary widely, but proposed are pop-up and floating restaurants, food vans, street food, and gazebos offering food and drink. Other ideas include a farmers? market at Bodafon Field, an outdoor theatre at Happy Valley, and extending the tram?s operation season.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/exciting-regeneration-plan-could-change-27886901?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Helig on October 12, 2023, 11:46:55 am
I hope this doesn't spoil the natural beauty of the town and fill it with tourist tat.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Dave on October 12, 2023, 09:09:00 pm
Never mind extending the season the trams run, they should extend the times too so that enable people can enjoy the sunsets and it needs the cafe/bar's  extended opening to match.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 14, 2023, 10:28:12 am
Petition calling for return of Llandudno's sandy beach handed to Welsh Government
The petition has 12,500 signatures and should now be debated the Senedd

Mr Sargeant is the chairman of the petitions committee at Welsh Government. Cllr Turner started the petition two months ago to lobby for sand to be put back on the beach after rocks were placed on the seafront in 2014 following Welsh Government-funded sea defence work.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/petition-calling-return-llandudnos-sandy-27906416
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.......LIVE: Llandudno incident
Post by: SteveH on October 18, 2023, 02:34:25 pm
LIVE: Llandudno incident sparks major emergency service response
The air ambulance, coastguard, police and RNLI are all on the scene

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-llandudno-incident-sparks-major-27932264

12:42KEY EVENT
Person had gone into the sea from the pier
The Coastguard has given an update and said a person had gone into the sea from the pier, has been recovered and taken to Ysbyty Glan Clwyd for treatment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 19, 2023, 10:36:43 am
More on the above rescue..........

Person pulled from sea near Llandudno Pier in major rescue operation
An air ambulance, lifeboat, police and coastguard were involved in the rescue

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/person-pulled-sea-near-llandudno-27933574?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 20, 2023, 10:10:15 am
A MAN who has been seen busking across Llandudno by playing the piano has told of his relief that one of the town?s retail parks has said he can return to its premises.

This left Tim, who has autism and finds playing the piano in public a great benefit for his mental health, feeling ?sad and upset?, but Mostyn Champneys has since welcomed him back.

The retail park said Tim has never been unwelcome at Mostyn Champneys, and that through human error, he was mistakenly given incorrect advice by a new member of the team.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23867846.piano-playing-llandudno-busker-very-happy-return-retail-park/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 20, 2023, 03:42:53 pm
Extensive flooding around town. Fire Service are pumping out properties on the council estate by Asda.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 20, 2023, 05:33:09 pm
Here's an article from the Daily Post about the flooding in Llandudno


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/storm-babet-llandudno-residents-evacuated-27952493
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 21, 2023, 10:14:31 am
A friends garden close to the Oval, he hired a pump to help the flooding, I also heard that the Gogarth councillors, Harry Saville and Louis Emery were out and about visiting those affected, they also sent out this advice..........

STORM BABET UPDATE
Many parts of Llandudno have been affected by flooding during Storm Babet.  Flood water appeared to be receding at the time of writing this email, nonetheless, we wanted to provide an update in case conditions deteriorate.

Welsh Water's pumping stations are operating at full capacity.  They struggled to cope with large amounts of rain water and a high tide on Friday afternoon.  Welsh Water are continuing to monitor the situation.

Cartrefi Conwy, North Wales Police and Conwy County Borough Council have been assisting those most affected within the Gogarth Mostyn ward and like Welsh Water, they will continue to monitor the storm overnight.

Localised flooding should be reported to Conwy County Borough Council by calling 01492 577999.  More details are available online here.

The Council have produced a guide on what to do before, during and after flooding.  This can be found online here.

Flooding can still be dangerous even if your home is not at risk.  Even shallow floodwater can hide trip hazards, such as raised manhole covers.

The Council have also set up a dedicated page listing road and local service closures.  This can be found online here. https://www.conwy.gov.uk/en/Resident/Crime-and-emergencies/Preparing-for-Emergencies/Flooding/documents/Flooding-Advice-and-Guidance-2020-ENG.pdf

If you are in immediate danger, contact the emergency services by calling 999. 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 21, 2023, 11:58:16 am
That's such a shame and I feel really sorry for all those people affected by the flooding.  I'm pleased that some of the local Councillors have turned out and offered their support to those people affected
Sadly it's not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last time either which is rather sad
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 21, 2023, 12:12:01 pm
The North Wales beauty spot that's been entrancing visitors for almost 14,000 years
From sunken palaces, ancient mines, hidden reservoirs and unrivalled attractions it's still captivating to this day



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/trips-breaks/north-wales-beauty-spot-thats-27934559
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 22, 2023, 09:50:24 am
That's such a shame and I feel really sorry for all those people affected by the flooding.  I'm pleased that some of the local Councillors have turned out and offered their support to those people affected
Sadly it's not the first time this has happened and it won't be the last time either which is rather sad

This flooding was down to bad drainage again, between the council and Welsh Water this needs to be sorted quickly, a lot of angry talk
on social media.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on October 22, 2023, 02:32:10 pm
Just a few thoughts.

If the drains and sewers are already surcharged, there wouldn't seem much point in pumping out until the levels subside and the water will drain away.

One factor in the Friday flooding is that there was a heavy wind causing the sea to lash onto North Shore.  This will have affected the discharge of surface water from the Washington Outfall - which drains most of Craig y Don..  Once that becomes tide-locked it results in Craig y Don and Liddell Park flooding incidents, there is then a knock-on affect on the Afon Creuddyn system which flows from Cae Clyd to the pumping station (s) at West Shore via Tre Creuddyn and the Oval. There is also a large land drainage catchment south of Conway Road the flow from which mainly goes to the Afon Creuddyn.

Efforts in the past to deal with the problems do not seem to have been very effective. Time for the Creuddyn overflow pumping station capacity to be looked at yet again! (This is the anonymous, garage-like, brick building in Lloyd Street West with the "No Tipping - CCTV" notice). 
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2023, 03:15:04 pm
Efforts in the past to deal with the problems do not seem to have been very effective. Time for the Creuddyn overflow pumping station capacity to be looked at yet again! (This is the anonymous, garage-like, brick building in Lloyd Street West with the "No Tipping - CCTV" notice).

Cambrian, isn't that the same pumping station that failed in the great flood of 1993?       I thought that I read that that pumping station had moved from there to higher ground and is now the building near the Boating Lake
When the electrics failed back in 1993 there was no manual over ride so that's why the water remained in the town for so long
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 22, 2023, 03:31:13 pm
Quote(Efforts in the past to deal with the problems do not seem to have been very effective. Time for the Creuddyn overflow pumping station capacity to be looked at yet again! )

Cambrian, I think you have summed it up very well.

Yesterday we heard a lot of scaffolding work going on in the area, looking today three lots of roofers working on them, and at least two scaffold firms setting up on other properties, a very busy and noisy Sunday, looks like the storm was responsible for more than ground flooding, I count myself lucky this time.

Mondie, if you read this, the above photo was very close to your old house near the Oval 

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on October 22, 2023, 06:04:32 pm
Thanks both.  My understanding from memory and chatting to Welsh Water people over the years is broadly this:

The drainage system at the West Shore end has become more complicated over the years.  The old UDC pumping station was underground just beyond the yachting pond.  That used to pump sewage (not fully treated) via a short sea outfall.  In the 1980s a long sea outfall was constructed with a pumping station (Dale Road) at the far end of the site now occupied by the miniature railway.  The "old" pumping station then simply pumped its flow to the Dale Road one and thence out to sea. The one that failed in 1993 was the "old" station as it was itself inundated with falling rain.  Welsh Water then rebuilt the control systems and panels above ground in what resembles a promenade shelter (of sorts). That dealt with what was mainly foul flows.  To deal with the Afon Creuddyn surface water sewer they built the Lloyd Street West one to act as a relief in times of heavy rain if the flow reached a certain critical level. The pumps in Lloyd St W then "blast" the whole inflow out onto West Shore.  In normal circumstances, the dry weather flow in the Creuddyn goes to the UDC station and is pumped via Dale Road and various other intermediate pumping stations all the way the "Ganol" waste water treatment works at Glan Conwy Corner.

The Afon Creuddyn itself has a convoluted and interesting history having been at various times an Agricultural Drain, a Scheduled Main Riverand finally a public surface water sewer. It originally had its own separate outfall at West Shore. East of Cae Clyd, it actually has a physical connection with the Washington Outfall system running down Clarence Road and this is evident from old maps before development took place.

Hugo - you may recall the Creuddyn as a ditch which gradually culverted in sections over many years mainly through the estate.  It ran at the back of Cwm Road towards the signal box.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2023, 09:47:55 am
Hugo - you may recall the Creuddyn as a ditch which gradually culverted in sections over many years mainly through the estate.  It ran at the back of Cwm Road towards the signal box.

Thanks Cambrian, that brought back some nice childhood memories for me.    I'm old enough to remember when there were just fields behind my house in Cwm Place and the nearest building was John Bright's Grammar School.    The Afon Creuddyn was just like a ditch and flowed down Jackson's Lane on the other side to where the farm once was.      I remember the large concrete pipes that transferred the water under the Conway Road and below the houses on the council estate but I was never brave enough to crawl through those pipes.
The pipes came out by the Welsh School in Cwm Road and the ditch was open until 1973 when that too was culverted.     By the railings belonging to British Rail was a flat wooden bridge that took you over the river from Builder Street and I've got clear memories of that too.
I noticed on an 1889 O/S map that directly opposite that point was another river and that flowed in a straight line behind the western side of Clifton Road ( before Maelgwyn Road was built ) and then it curved before reaching the railway.   It must have been a fair sized river because stepping stones are shown on the map.
Your posting brought up some interesting points and Bodafon as it's name suggests had water channels there.  According to books I have read Ffynnon Sadwrn had a plentiful supply of water, that was until Mostyn Estates diverted the water when they built a drainage ditch
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 24, 2023, 04:54:27 pm
It was clear to me last Friday that it was only the fact the rain eased off during the afternoon that prevented a major flooding problem occurring in central Llandudno, similar in scale to the 1993 floods.

The pumping capacity for the town's surface water drainage is obviously inadequate and CCBC's own negligence in failing to carry out routine road drain clearing (when was the last time you saw a lorry cleaning out the drains?) also contributed to the problem.

We had a lucky escape last Friday - let's hope lessons are learned and action is take to address the problems.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2023, 10:45:57 pm
Response to Storm Babet flooding in Llandudno defended amid 'complete chaos' claim
'It has been heart-breaking to see residents in a state of distress and feeling completely helpless in the midst of rising water'


Let's hope that lessons have been learned from this latest flooding as it'll happen again and it might not be another 30 years before the town floods again, it might be a lot sooner

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/response-storm-babet-flooding-llandudno-27973831
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 25, 2023, 10:05:51 am
Cllr McCoubrey said the storm was extreme, affecting all parts of the UK.
?As news reports from across the UK showed, the conditions during Storm Babet were extreme,? he said. ?Emergency service and local authority partners across North Wales met regularly and worked closely throughout the day to ensure a co-ordinated approach to the weather conditions.

Its no good  saying the whole of the UK was affected, CCBC only have to worry about Conwy residents, also as has already been said
not enough pre-emptive work carried out, by both the council and Welsh Water, I have written to local councilors expressing my opinions.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cambrian on October 25, 2023, 11:34:40 am
One thing not mentioned so far is the availability of two heavy duty pumps stored in a building next to Llandudno Fire Station. These are part of a regional strategy for use in serious flooding.  Occasionally you can see one or both on the forecourt being checked over and maintained.

It is surprising that these were not mobilised to augment the clearly overtaxed capacity of the Afon Creuddyn relief pumping station.

Incidentally post 1993, there was another issue about 15 years ago when Tre Creuddyn estate roads started to flood.  Water was beginning to lap at doorways when fortunately someone asked a WW employee to check whether the relief station had kicked in. Apparently it had not and was switched on; the effect was magical as within minutes the flood disappeared down the highway gullies to everyone's relief.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 26, 2023, 10:24:40 am
Award success shows Llandudno is 'still the Queen of Welsh Resorts'
The town has been awarded gold at the Britain in Bloom Awards

A proud councillor says Llandudno is still the Queen of Welsh Resorts after the town was awarded a horticulture and environmental award. Councillors and volunteers travelled down to London this week for the Britain in Bloom Awards ceremony where they were awarded the prestigious gold award.

The award follows the Wales in Bloom judges last year also awarding Llandudno a gold award before putting the town forward for the best coastal town in the UK, representing Wales. Llandudno was one of a handful of towns to be awarded gold.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/award-success-shows-llandudno-still-27980376?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 29, 2023, 09:23:41 am
Llandudno is still the Queen of Welsh Resorts, says a proud councillor after the town was awarded a horticulture and environmental award.

Councillors and volunteers travelled down to London this week for the Britain in Bloom Awards ceremony where they were awarded the prestigious gold award.

The award follows the Wales in Bloom judges last year also awarding Llandudno a gold award before putting the town forward for the best coastal town in the UK, representing Wales.

Llandudno were one of a handful of towns to be awarded gold.

Despite Lytham in north west England and East Haven in Scotland being crowned overall joint winners, Cllr Louise Emery, who travelled to the ceremony, believes Llandudno has both hands on the crown of best Welsh resort.

?For the town, it does mean a lot. I know we have the gold signs on the road. But one of the many comments visitors make is how the town is well looked after, how it is free of litter, and how most of the time the parks are beautiful and the beaches are clean.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23883169.llandudno-still-queen-welsh-resorts/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 30, 2023, 12:45:37 pm
Cllr McCoubrey said the storm was extreme, affecting all parts of the UK.
?As news reports from across the UK showed, the conditions during Storm Babet were extreme,? he said. ?Emergency service and local authority partners across North Wales met regularly and worked closely throughout the day to ensure a co-ordinated approach to the weather conditions.

Its no good  saying the whole of the UK was affected, CCBC only have to worry about Conwy residents, also as has already been said
not enough pre-emptive work carried out, by both the council and Welsh Water, I have written to local councilors expressing my opinions.

I received a reply to the above from Councillor Saville.....

I understand that the Council have a list of culverts and water courses that are likely to block and cause flooding, and that these are cleared periodically.  Unfortunately, the Council rely on people (including the public) to report blocked gullies along the rest of the gully network ? usually they are pretty quick to respond once a report has been submitted.  I have reported this particular gully to the Council and will let you know once I hear anything back.  The easiest way to report blocked gullies is online through https://flooding.reporting.conwy.gov.uk/en - this webpage maps almost the entire gully network, so you can pick the blocked gully individually and log it as blocked.
 
Since last week?s floods I?ve met with the Council?s Flood Risk and Infrastructure Manager and have been assured that the Council will be carried out a formal review of the causes of flooding in Llandudno and suggested mitigation steps.  This report will be completed with input from Welsh Water and (I believe) Natural Resources Wales.  I will try to share a copy of the review with you once it?s completed.
 

It should also be noted, that getting house insurance is difficult in Llandudno, it is either refused or extreme conditions set, which is an added concern for those affected.



Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 30, 2023, 01:06:04 pm
It's just an observation but if anyone is thinking of buying an apartment in Llandudno, they should think seriously about buying one on the first floor or above.
Sadly the floods will happen again despite any assurances from CCBC or Welsh Water
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Cordyline on October 30, 2023, 02:12:02 pm
Hi Hugo,
 re flood warnings, do you consider Bodlondeb Castle a flood risk ?
There is very nice a ground floor apartment  for sale.
John

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/9614715/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on October 30, 2023, 02:15:27 pm
It's just an observation but if anyone is thinking of buying an apartment in Llandudno, they should think seriously about buying one on the first floor or above.
Sadly the floods will happen again despite any assurances from CCBC or Welsh Water

Our first accommodation in Llandudno was a second floor apartment, refused flood cover, on the basis it could damage the footings etc.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 30, 2023, 03:21:56 pm
Hi Hugo,
 re flood warnings, do you consider Bodlondeb Castle a flood risk ?
There is very nice a ground floor apartment  for sale.
John

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/9614715/

I'm not an expert on that location John but those apartments look really great and I don't want to put you off.     You're in luck here because DaveR from the forum at one time lived in an apartment there so he should be able to tell you more
Give him a PM and ask for his expert views on the place.     My comments referred to the flat lands of Llandudno where there will be a problem again in later years

I've attached a link for you showing the flood water of 1993 going down Old Road to the town but I can't tell you if Bodlondeb was affected or not
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/1993-great-orme-floods-video-12431592
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....TIMBER and builders' merchants opened
Post by: SteveH on October 31, 2023, 09:50:35 am
A TIMBER and builders' merchants opened its new store in Llandudno today (October 30).

C.L. Jones Timber & Builders' Merchants, which has sites across North Wales including in Kinmel Bay and Llanrwst, opened its Llandudno site today.

"Visit our new store in Llandudno, Council Street West, LL30 1ED or get in touch on 01492 702600."
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DaveR on October 31, 2023, 07:53:11 pm
Hi Hugo,
 re flood warnings, do you consider Bodlondeb Castle a flood risk ?
There is very nice a ground floor apartment  for sale.
John

https://www.onthemarket.com/details/9614715/
As Hugo said, I used to live in Bodlondeb Castle, there is no flood risk at all there.  :)
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on October 31, 2023, 10:47:16 pm
Thanks for clarifying that Dave, it certainly looks a very attractive place to live
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?............Anwyl and Penmorfa
Post by: SteveH on November 01, 2023, 10:14:57 am
Sewer drain holds key to whether multi-million pound Llandudno beach development still has planning
Anwyl secured planning permission to build flats 15 years ago but the site remains empty

A developer wants to establish it still has planning in place to build a multi-million pound apartment block on a North Wales seafront - with a sewer drain at the heart of the matter. The land at West Shore beach used to house a property called Penmorfa that was built in the 1860s for the family of Alice Liddell, said to be the inspiration for Lewis Carroll?s Alice?s Adventures in Wonderland.

It later became Gogarth Abbey Hotel before being demolished by Anwyl Construction in 2008 to make way for apartments. Planning permission was secured for a 29 apartment development but nothing has ever been built on the site.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/sewer-drain-holds-key-whether-28019457?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 01, 2023, 01:10:06 pm
That's a complete joke and if the planning application is still valid then CCBC's stupidity has exceeded anything they have done before, except perhaps the West Shore sea defence of 1993
Sometime shortly after 2013 I sent a FOI request to CCBC asking that same question was the planning application still valid.    I had heard about the pipe that had been laid but was informed in writing that the pipe that was laid did not reach the construction site so it was deemed that no work had been commenced on the site so consequently the time limit for the planning application had run out.
Sadly I did not keep that letter but CCBC should have that on file
I also phoned up and asked CCBC what type of pipe was laid and had they got a photo of the pipe, the person on the phone replied that they didn't know but the trench had been filled in anyway but that they would have taken a photo of the pipe before the trench was filled in
I believe that Anwyl acknowledged this fact but came back saying that the building had been commenced because Anwyl had demolished the main house as they had left it to deteriorate so that the original house could be demolished.
Why does the developer want to bring this up now as the original outline planning was for the construction of only 28 apartments.   If they don't want to build to those plans then they could always put in a new planning application.
It's no wonder that I don't trust developers but my faith in the CCBC Planning Office and Planning Committee has hit an all time low and to see the Planning Committee in action is unbelievable, nodding Donkeys come to mind
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 01, 2023, 02:27:30 pm
The Penmorfa site has been controversial from the time Anwyl got outline planning permission granted in 2006.     The application was for the side extensions to be removed, leaving the original house intact and it was for about 25 apartments
In 2008 Anwyl applied to demolish the original house and build 28 apartments and that was granted.   See artists impression. and the time limit for starting the building was within 5 years which was 2013.
Sometime after 2013 Anwyl was toying with the idea of building about 54 apartments that resembled something from Lego Land but never got to the stage of submitting plans for that monstrosity
In the meantime Beech Homes built apartments next door  which were in keeping with the surrounding area

One thing for certain the developer will be wanting to build a lot of apartments on the site as it wouldn't be viable otherwise
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?..........First ever whisky festival
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2023, 10:07:44 am
Llandudno to host Wales' first ever whisky festival
Enthusiasts will gather in the seaside resort as the 'dragon?s dram' goes from strength to strength

Wales is to get its first whisky festival as the ?dragon?s dram? continues its renaissance. Some 25 whisky producers from around the world will be gathering in Conwy next year to offer tastings, limited editions and distillery tours.

The first Wales Whisky Fest 2024 will take place on November 1-3, 2024, at the St George?s Hotel in Llandudno, Conwy. The event has partnered with Penderyn Distillery and is sponsored by Aber Falls Distillery, Larkfire Wild Water, Whisgi Wales Podcast, and Daffodil Tours.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-host-wales-first-ever-28033331?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?............Christmas Extravaganza
Post by: SteveH on November 05, 2023, 10:09:57 am
Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza returns to town this month...link https://victorian-extravaganza.com/christmas-extravaganza

The popular festive event will fill the streets once again as thousands flock to Llandudno

t's beginning to look a lot like Christmas - or at least it will soon - with the return of Llandudno's Victorian Christmas Extravaganza. Organisers have again gone all out to bring plenty of festive cheer to the town as details were confirmed.

This year, the Christmas Extravaganza will take place between Thursday, November 16, through to Sunday, November 19. The event runs daily from 10am through to 9pm each night along Mostyn Street.

The extravaganza is billed a free-to-attend Christmas family event with entertainment, gift stalls, food and drink vendors, and fairground rides for the kids.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-christmas-extravaganza-returns-town-28044442

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 07, 2023, 09:56:53 am
A FAMOUS face surprised regulars at a Llandudno micropub at the weekend.

Television star Les Dennis enjoyed a pint at TAPPS, on Saturday night and spent time with some customers.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 08, 2023, 10:20:15 am
Update

LES DENNIS continued his tour of Llandudno by visiting a popular restaurant in the town.     pioneer

The television star was spotted having a pint at TAPPS micropub on Madoc Street at the weekend, with the pub saying it was ?nice having Les Dennis in for a beer last night?.

He also visited the popular Indulge Restaurant just down the road, with co-owner Monika Walker saying ?it was a pleasure to have him at Indulge Restaurant.?

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 08, 2023, 10:24:27 am
Hugo - you may recall the Creuddyn as a ditch which gradually culverted in sections over many years mainly through the estate.  It ran at the back of Cwm Road towards the signal box.

Cambrian,   I have read an article in Christopher Draper's book about the Afon Creuddyn.  Apparently the flat land of the Creuddyn remained wet in Winter so efforts were made to improve the drainage, initially by installing a ditch that emptied into the West Shore.
 Around 1840  a team of men laboured for 6 months constructing "Ffos Fawr" a huge semi circular ditch that extended the agricultural drainage system around to Bodafon Fields but the problem was never completely solved
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?......Late night shopping event
Post by: SteveH on November 09, 2023, 10:18:08 am
A LATE night shopping event will be held across Llandudno in December, which will see a host of businesses stay open past their usual hours.
The event, named Merry Mostyn Street 2023, will see stores, cafes and other businesses stay open from 4pm-8pm from December 13-16.
There will also be a town-wide Christmas window and decoration competition, as well as live music and other events in the churches and library in the town centre.

There will be a ?250 top prize for the best Christmas window or frontage competition sponsored by Llandudno Town Council.
This will include the presentation of a historic trophy, with other prizes for runners up.

For those keen to finish off their Christmas shopping, a town trail map will be made available, telling people which stores and cafes etc will be open until late.
This trail map can be accessed by signing up using a QR code link provided by the group.

Friends of Mostyn Street, a community group who have created the event, said on social media: ?A new tradition for Llandudno.
?This late night shopping event is focused on town businesses, community engagement and developing the visitor experience over the crucial festive season over the long term.

?This is a great opportunity for your business and for Llandudno as we are sure it will be wonderful for Llandudno as a town community and encourage visitors to return every year.?

The group said additional late night parking at the Victoria Centre will be provided by Mostyn Estates to support the event.

The sign-up deadline for businesses to take part is November 17, with decorations ?ideally? up by December 1, the group added.

Gini Rivers, of the Friends of Mostyn Street, commented: ?Friends of Mostyn Street was founded as a positive group focused on celebrating and boosting our town centre and our plan for late night Christmas shopping is a further step on the road to restoring Mostyn Street to its rightful place at the top of the tree.

?Our plans also hark back to the Christmas shopping experience many locals remember from the 80s and 90s.

?They also form part of 'Three Steps to Christmas' in Llandudno, which will begin with the Christmas Extravaganza on 16-19 November followed by the Christmas Parade on 2 December, then our late night shopping experience.

?This is a golden opportunity to make Llandudno a magical annual destination in the run up to Christmas, while also generating much needed business for local retailers and hospitality venues.

?We are determined that none of these four evenings will be a silent night for either locals, visitors or businesses!?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?......... 'largest Santa Dash in North Wales
Post by: SteveH on November 10, 2023, 09:49:36 am
The 'largest Santa Dash in North Wales' will take place next month in Llandudno.

The family event takes the shape of a 5km route along the sea front of Llandudno North Shore.

Participants are even welcome to bring their pets and can walk, jog or run the 5km.

Ffion White, Director of Bespoke Fitness and Events who organise the event, said: "Participants will receive their own Santa suit to wear a medal and the amazing feeling of joining in such great event."

Registration takes place at The Pier, Llandudno North Shore, from 9.30am on December 2. The race starts at 10.45am.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23910597.llandudno-largest-santa-dash-2023---time/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 12, 2023, 10:33:16 am
A PROPERTY management company in Llandudno has gone into voluntary liquidation.        ref pioneer

Hall & Jones Properties Ltd issued a winding up resolution on September 29.

Lisa Ion and Mark Colman, of Leonard Curtis, a firm specialising in insolvency matters, have been appointed as its joint liquidators.

According to documents listed on Companies House, the business has an estimated debt of roughly ?150,000.

This includes roughly ?45,000 loaned to HM Revenue & Customs, ?38,200 to Lloyds Bank, and ?30,465 to Development Bank of Wales.

The business was established in 2008 by co-owners Richard Hall and Elfyn Jones.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....late night festive shopping
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2023, 10:12:22 am
Update..........

Llandudno holding late night festive shopping experiences in run up to Christmas
The Friends of Mostyn Street are calling on businesses in Llandudno to get involved - with three separate festive events

?Our plans also hark back to the Christmas shopping experience many locals remember from the 80s and 90s.

?They also form part of ?Three Steps to Christmas? in Llandudno, which will begin with the Christmas Extravaganza on 16-19 November followed by the Christmas Parade on 2 December, then our late night shopping experience.

?This is a golden opportunity to make Llandudno a magical annual destination in the run up to Christmas, while also generating much needed business for local retailers and hospitality venues. We are determined that none of these four evenings will be a silent night for either locals, visitors or businesses.?

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-holding-late-night-festive-28100473?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 15, 2023, 06:31:53 pm
Scenic Great Orme road still shut and it may not open until Christmas
A stretch of Marine Drive has been closed since September after a resident's excavations made it unsafe

It'll be interesting to see who will pay for the work to be done, because it's not the fault of the CCBC 


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/scenic-great-orme-road-still-28112218
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?........... Christmas Parade
Post by: SteveH on November 16, 2023, 10:46:40 am
LLANDUDNO's spectacular Christmas Parade will return to the town this December.

The parade, organised by Llandudno Town Council, will depart Llandudno Railway Station at 4pm on December 2 and make its way through the Streets of Llandudno, along Vaughan Street, Mostyn Street, past the Town Hall in Lloyd Street, down Madoc Street before returning to the Station.

The parade will be led by Father Christmas on his sleigh, followed by the mayor and mayoress and Miss Alice.

Attractions include the Cambrian Band, the Theatr Colwyn Mother Goose themed pantomime float, nativity float, Christmas themed stiltwalkers, juggling elves, as well as young people?s groups from Llandudno.
Entertainment will take place outside the Town Hall from 2.15pm and will feature Llandudno Town Band, Llandudno Youth Music Theatre, an Abba Tribute band and Chris Williams from the Llandudno Victorian Extravaganza and the Magic Bar acting as compere.

Once the Parade has left Lloyd Street there will be a performance by the Batala Samba Band and a 25 minute show with performers dressed as characters from Charles Dickens ?A Christmas Carol?.

Cllr Antony Bertola, Christmas Parade Chairman, said: "Last year?s Christmas Parade was brilliant, lots of activity with a variety of talented performers. It was great to see so many smiling faces from children and parents enjoying themselves.

"We are looking forward to an even better event this year and to seeing you all on the day."  pioneer
Title: Re: Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza 2023 officially underway
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2023, 10:07:38 am
The four-day Christmas event - which was first held in 2021 - opened on Thursday (November 16) morning and will run until Sunday (November 19).

Llandudno Mayor Cllr Greg Robbins and Miss Alice 2023/24 Poppy Bowen-Roberts officially opened proceedings just after 10am on Thursday.

The official opening was followed by Christmas carols from Ysgol Morfa Rhianedd Choir getting everyone in the crowd in the festive spirit and beginning the countdown to Christmas in Llandudno.

Crowds of people began filtering into the event following the opening to take a look at what the Christmas Extravaganza has to offer and start their preparations for the festive season ahead.

What to expect from the Llandudno Christmas Extravaganza in 2023...........cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23927925.llandudno-christmas-extravaganza-2023-officially-underway/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 19, 2023, 09:59:38 am
Not a nice day for the final of the Extravaganza, FB saying over 40 coaches arrived yesterday, which appears to confirm the numbers reported below..........

THOUSANDS of people have flocked to Llandudno over the last three days to visit the Christmas Extravaganza.

The four-day event started on Thursday, November 16 and concludes today (Sunday, November 19).

The free event has certainly drawn the crowds [and the coaches!] and injected festive cheer into the town. As well as fairground rides and gift stalls, there's an array of food at the extravaganza, both sweet and savoury, and familiar scents of mulled wine and cinnamon fill the air as you walk round.

The market appeared a little quiet when we visited in the day on Friday and Saturday [we spied Mother Goose from Magic Light Productions speaking to visitors!] But it was packed to the rafters when we returned Saturday evening. Music blared out from from the Waltzers and on the other street, on the main stage, performers from Linzi Grace School of Dance were doing a fabulous job of getting everyone in the Christmassy mood!

full article https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23933084.day-four---last-day-llandudno-christmas-extravaganza-2023/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 21, 2023, 09:59:48 am
North Wales town rated fourth best in UK for a Christmas visit
Llandudno was rated highly for its restaurants and traffic, less so for its weather

A reported 40 coaches disgorged festive visitors on Sunday (November 19) as Christmas arrived with a bang in Llandudno. The seaside town?s Christmas Extravaganza offered gift stalls, fairground rides and pop-up igloos, while long queues formed for bratwurst, crepes and other festive treats.

The scent of mulled wine and cinnamon is fading now that the four-day event is over. But yet to come is the town?s Christmas Parade and a new four-day shopping event.

Llandudno is determined to hold onto its reputation as the place to visit over Christmas. Despite challenging times, there?s plenty of evidence it?s managing to retain its festive allure: one new study has rated the Conwy town as the UK?s fourth best Christmas road trip destination in the UK.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/north-wales-town-rated-fourth-28139545?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....New EV charge points installed
Post by: SteveH on November 25, 2023, 10:17:25 am
NEW EV charging points have been activated at Llandudno railway station.
The 24 new units at Llandudno station?s APCOA carpark, off August Street, will be a welcome resource for existing EV vehicle drivers or offer the necessary reassurance for residents who may be looking to switch to an electric vehicle.

The units were installed by Network Rail and APCOA, a parking management company.

This development comes with the activation of more than 60 EV charge points across two more station car parks in the UK.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23946525.new-ev-charge-points-installed-llandudno-railway-station/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 27, 2023, 10:17:04 am
Work to restart on Llandudno and Deeside sites mothballed after collapse of developer

Work is set to re-start on two sites mothballed after the collapse of a developer. Lane End Developments Construction, based in Warrington, went into administration in April.

The company had two live sites in North Wales for 177 affordable homes. One was for 77 homes at Builder Street in Llandudno and the other for 100 properties on the Northern Gateway in Deeside.

They were working with housing group ClwydAlyn on the projects. It saw the projects grind to a halt and all 112 workers made redundant.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/work-restart-llandudno-deeside-sites-28172180
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 27, 2023, 01:02:15 pm
I drove past the site the other day and it was sad to see it standing idle so that's really good news to hear that work on the site will resume again soon.   
I just hope that the homes are for young local people
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 27, 2023, 05:05:03 pm
Search launched after discovery of shipwreck at foot of Great Orme
Debris was 'scattered over a wide area' with old flares also found, thank goodness there were no casualties involved in this incident

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/search-launched-after-discovery-shipwreck-28182309


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on November 29, 2023, 10:20:51 am
Future coastal protection works in Llandudno will not prevent a sandy beach returning to the town's north shore, a senior council officer has said. Speaking at an economy and place overview and scrutiny committee, Owen Conry promised councillors that Conwy's flood defence team would work towards ensuring a sandy beach remained an option for the north shore.

The discussions were part of a bi-annual overview of the county's coastal and fluvial flood risk reduction schemes. Mr Conry, Conwy's interim flood risk and infrastructure manager, was asked by Llandudno councillor Thomas Montgomery for assurances that future planned coastal defence work would not damage plans for a sandy beach.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-coastal-defence-work-wont-28190494?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on November 30, 2023, 09:12:50 am
Giant 'floating' ship moves into position off Llandudno
The six-legged vessel can be jacked up 25ft above the sea



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/giant-floating-ship-moves-position-28198592
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 01, 2023, 10:32:02 am
Motorists mystified by fines for phantom 'parking' at Llandudno retail park
'Adjustments' have since been made to Automatic Number Plate Recognition cameras at Mostyn Champneys


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorists-mystified-fines-phantom-parking-28205571
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 03, 2023, 11:19:10 am
Queen of Welsh Resorts shows it's not just a 'seasonal, seaside resort'
'Right ingredients' as the town of Llandudno shows its resilience

The tourism sector in North Wales has endured a roller-coaster ride over the last few years - from lockdowns to booming summers. It has then been affected by the cost of living crisis while visitor bosses have accused Welsh Government of being "anti-tourist" with its crackdown on second homes and a proposed tourism tax.

But the most popular resort in the region, Llandudno, has shown its resilience and also moved from being "just a resort" - bringing in other employment and also maintaining a strong retail sector despite the many headwinds. It has seen brands like Loungers open there with enormous success while Boots Hearingcare moved their training academy from England to the town centre.

There are more positives going forward. LVL 5 Gyms are opening up in units next to the new Premier Inn - taking up space that had been empty since the Tudno Castle redevelopment was completed.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/queen-welsh-resorts-shows-its-28209794?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.............Llandudno Christmas Parade 2023
Post by: SteveH on December 04, 2023, 09:59:23 am
Crowds line streets for Llandudno Christmas Parade 2023!

LLANDUDNO sparkled in all its festive glory during its annual Christmas parade.

Crowds of people lined the streets for the parade that departed Llandudno Railway Station at 4pm on Saturday (December 2).

The annual procession, organised by Llandudno Town Council, made its way along Vaughan Street, Mostyn Street, past the Town Hall in Lloyd Street, down Madoc Street before returning to the Station.

cont plus video https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23964261.crowds-line-streets-llandudno-christmas-parade-2023/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on December 04, 2023, 04:01:08 pm
On Saturday afternoon I briefly went into town (Llandudno) and a few vehicles ahead of me was a low loader carrying an old Llandudno tram - still with the Catrin Follies banner on it.  I'm surprised not to have seen any pics of it on any local facebook page, so wonder what was it doing, where was it going - are they going to resurrect the trams - ideal for 20mph!
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 06, 2023, 09:59:44 am
A CLINIC and health centre in Llandudno has gone on the market.                                    pioneer

The Oxford House Clinic site, at Oxford Road, is for sale with estate agent St David?s Commercial for a freehold price of ?535,000.

The site was established in 2000, and offers sports therapy, acupuncture therapy and a range of other services.

Built in 1880, the building is described as being in an ?improving? area of the town, close to Asda and the police station.

Extending to some 5,000 square feet, the premises is made up of three floors, including a gym room, treatment space, and a residential flat complete with study.

The estate agent said of the listing: ?Rare clinic and health centre situated in the centre of Llandudno and adjacent to Asda and police station. Situated in an improving mixed use area.

?Built circa 1880, solid stone elevations under a red tiled roof with some flat roof extensions.?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 08, 2023, 04:59:06 pm
An aerial view  of Llandudno with some of Bodafon Farmland in the foreground.       I wonder how long it will be before Mostyn Estates will want further housing built on the remaining farmland?






















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Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 09, 2023, 10:06:23 am
AN ART gallery will be opening at the site of a former tourism hub in Llandudno town centre.

Ffin y Parc Gallery, which is currently based at Betws Road, Llanrwst, will be making the move to Trinity Square, with an opening slated for St David?s Day, March 1, 2024.

The gallery is owned by Ralph Sanders and Roland Powell, who established it in 2010 and have overseen its transformation into the biggest commercial art gallery in Wales.

The new Ffin y Parc will showcase the best of Welsh art, and will present the work of up to 40 artists, all Wales-based or Welsh-influenced, with a ?mixed collection? of up-and-coming artists and more established ones.

cont plus more photos  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23977747.gallery-showcasing-best-welsh-art-open-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?...........New high-quality gym and bar
Post by: SteveH on December 10, 2023, 10:39:47 am
A NEW gym and bar complex in Llandudno celebrated its soft opening to the public today (December 9).

LVL 5 Gyms Ltd, owned by Sion Pritchard and Rich Blake, hosted an open day at the former Tudno Castle hotel site at Conway Road.

The new gym is made up of a caf? and bar space, a sizeable weights and cardio room, a room geared to specific sessions, and changing rooms complete with saunas.

There will also be a wet room for disabled customers, which is due to be completed soon.

cont plus photo gallery      https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23979461.inside-new-high-quality-gym-bar-llandudno/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 12, 2023, 09:56:23 am
Llandudno is gearing up for a four-night late night shopping event this week.

It will also include a Christmas window and frontage competition, and a Christmas trail around the businesses taking part.

There will be a free draw with prizes worth over ?800 for completed trails, where stamps have been collected from 20 businesses or more.

Trail maps are now available to pick up for free from all premises taking part.

Friends of Mostyn Street began in May this year and are now organising Merry Mostyn Street, a town-wide Christmas trail and late-night shopping event running from December 13-16 showcasing

generous offers from local and national businesses alike.

There will be live music on Thursday night (December 14) at the Mostyn Art Gallery, and free crafting and stories for children at Llandudno Library while parents are welcome to have free hot chocolate, tea or coffee.

full details    cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23982733.llandudnos-merry-mostyn-street-christmas-shopping-experience/

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 14, 2023, 09:38:35 am
THE SITE of a former luxury jewellery and watch store in Llandudno has been snapped up, three years after the business closed.

The building that was once home to Gimberts, at 94 Mostyn Street, had been on the market with estate agents St David?s Commercial for ?285,000.

Gimberts had traded in the resort town for more than 40 years until its abrupt closure in 2020, having failed to reopen after the New Year break, and with no message to customers.

Once stocked with luxury jewellery and watches, and well-known for its fine china, the site has lay empty since but the sign remains.

The property has been described as in a ?prime? location by the estate agent, who said it had been bought by a property company who would renovate the site.

The building is made up of three floors, with additional basement storage, which can be used for retail, offices and accommodation.

St David's Commercial said of the sale: "At last, new owners will renovate and continue to improve the fabulous listed building Llandudno has to offer.    pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 21, 2023, 10:23:25 am
THE OWNERS of a shop in Llandudno town centre have announced their intention to close in the new year.

Happily Ever After, on Mostyn Street, opened in October 2020 and is owned by husband and wife Jake and Amy Bailey, who moved to the area from Staffordshire to set up the store.

The couple, who have a child, previously sold their home in order to keep the store going during the cost-of-living crisis.

The business bounced back thanks to an innovative shelf renting idea, whereby other local businesses and craftspeople would rent space on the shop floor to sell their own products.

However, the owners have now confirmed the site will be going up for let in January, with the couple to pursue other business interests online.

cont However, the owners have now confirmed the site will be going up for let in January, with the couple to pursue other business interests online.

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 24, 2023, 10:16:09 am
CONWY'S planning committee backed plans to transform Llandudno?s former Marks & Spencer building into a three-floor mixed-use leisure hub ? but there were concerns raised about what could go there.

Llandudno landowner Mostyn Estates were granted permission for the building?s use to be changed from retail and ancillary to a mixed-use building comprising a mix of retail, food and beverage, and indoor leisure.

The change of use will allow Mostyn Estates to market the future use of the building more widely.

But a planning report revealed that footfall in the town centre had dropped significantly since M&S had left Mostyn Street.

Since M&S moved to Parc Llandudno in March 2022, the nearby multistorey car park had seen a 40% decline in the number of cars parked.

Data from people counters on Mostyn Street also confirmed a reduction in footfall since M&S relocated.

Cllr Antony Bertola proposed councillors voted in favour of the change of use, which was seconded by Cllr Chris Cater.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24010244.plan-transform-llandudnos-former-marks-spencer-building-approved/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 26, 2023, 07:41:42 pm
Hundreds take Boxing Day plunge in chilly North Wales seas to raise charity cash
Whether in trunks or fancy dress, many turned up to brave the cold waves
It was a warm December day today but still too cold for me to take a dip        ;D


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hundreds-take-boxing-day-plunge-28350466
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 26, 2023, 10:29:03 pm
Eerie tunnels beneath Llandudno leading out to sea
Explorers are opening up an unexplored section of Llandudno's Ty Gwyn Copper Mine

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/explorers-open-up-hidden-world-25802398


The Great Orme Exploration Society has a fantastic web site for anyone interested in the  history of the Great Orme.     The Society also has many good walks arranged during the year

https://www.goes.org.uk/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 27, 2023, 12:20:16 pm
Storm Gerrit is out in force at the moment with winds of over 50 mph predicted for this afternoon.     The weather is too bad to venture out unless you have to but at least I can see the West Shore on the web cam


http://www.westshorebeachcafe.com/webcam-in-llandudno/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on December 28, 2023, 09:28:29 am
CONWY'S planning committee backed plans to transform Llandudno?s former Marks & Spencer building into a three-floor mixed-use leisure hub ? but there were concerns raised about what could go there.

Llandudno landowner Mostyn Estates were granted permission for the building?s use to be changed from retail and ancillary to a mixed-use building comprising a mix of retail, food and beverage, and indoor leisure.

The change of use will allow Mostyn Estates to market the future use of the building more widely.

But a planning report revealed that footfall in the town centre had dropped significantly since M&S had left Mostyn Street.

Since M&S moved to Parc Llandudno in March 2022, the nearby multistorey car park had seen a 40% decline in the number of cars parked.

Data from people counters on Mostyn Street also confirmed a reduction in footfall since M&S relocated.

Cllr Antony Bertola proposed councillors voted in favour of the change of use, which was seconded by Cllr Chris Cater.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24010244.plan-transform-llandudnos-former-marks-spencer-building-approved/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

From Gogarth Councilors news letter.........

Many people will have seen in the media that Mostyn Estates have made an application for the redevelopment and change of use of the former Marks & Spencer building on Mostyn Street.  This is a hugely important development for the town, and I'm pleased to see the project has been supported with positive words from council officer Elen Edwards, Head of Economic Development.

However, such is the importance of the project that I believe it needs to be properly debated upon by those that represent the local public, and therefore I have 'Called-in' the planning application.  To 'Call-in' is a legal mechanism that requires the application to be decided by elected representatives rather than council planning officers.  I look forward to this application being debated.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....Llandudno's 'little and large' jetties
Post by: SteveH on December 30, 2023, 09:51:36 am
Llandudno's 'little and large' jetties that have survived against the odds
One is a 'feat of engineering' but it was very nearly lost a decade ago

When the first Victorian visitors arrived in Llandudno, they had to be carried ashore. Paddle steamers were tied up to a buoy anchored on North Shore beach, and small boats would ferry passengers closer to the shoreline. The remaining few yards were more problematic.

Sketches from the time show burly crew members wading through the surf giving piggybacks to gentlemen in hats. Also hitched aloft were parasol-clutching ladies in petticoats and dresses.........................read more below

Cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudnos-little-large-jetties-survived-28362561?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on December 30, 2023, 10:30:14 am
Just one vote decided the fate of the jetty, that's how close the decision was.       I wonder how close the vote was to put all that quarry waste on the North Shore?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 04, 2024, 09:08:01 am
A NEW sign at Happy Valley has been heavily criticised by residents.

The sign reminds people not to swim in the stream and states 'no swimming, no paddling, no access.'

Conwy County Borough Council put the sign in place following risk assessments of all open spaces sites that have water, ponds and streams, but a lot of residents have termed the sign as "ugly" and a "waste of money."

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24026205.residents-slam-ugly-warning-sign-happy-valley/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....Scout Association admits fault
Post by: SteveH on January 05, 2024, 09:18:35 am
A mum cried as the Scout Association finally admitted responsibility for her son's cliff-fall death, more than five years after it happened. Ben Leonard's mum Jackie tearfully told an inquest: "It's five-and-a-half years too late. That's all we wanted from the beginning."

Ms Leonard said she felt "disgusted" by the way her family had been treated since Ben's death while on a trip to north Wales in 2018. She said it had felt "like we don't matter and like Ben didn't matter."

Ben suffered a serious head injury when he fell 200ft from the Great Orme in Llandudno on August 26, 2018. He was on a trip with the Reddish Explorer Scouts from Stockport, where he lived. Jim Ageros KC - a lawyer representing The Scout Association - told an inquest in Manchester that the organisation "accepts it was at fault for Ben's death".

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/scouts-admit-were-at-fault-28393666?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
cont
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 07, 2024, 09:50:32 am
Go-ahead to tap the hidden waters of the Great Orme for new venture
Applicant wanted to bottle spring water from the giant headland

A plan to once again use of the hidden waters of the Great Orme headland to quench of the thirst of Llandudno has been approved. The land mass once provided vital supplies for the growing town it towered over - with nine springs alone on the Great Orme.

Llandudno started to develop more radidly and reservoirs were needed to avoid the ?water famines? that had almost occurred as the population grew. Llandudno?s Fach reservoir came to the rescue while an open reservoir capable of holding 3,500,000 gallons was completed on land near St Tudno?s Church on the Great Orme.

Last month month North Wales Live revealed that a proposal had been put forward for mineral water to be extracted from a spring on the Great Orme to be bottled for sale or used for the water to make Penderyn's Welsh whisky at its Llandudno distillery.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/go-ahead-tap-hidden-waters-28393181?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 07, 2024, 11:43:49 am
That's an interesting article but one thing struck me about Penderyn extracting water from a spring on the Great Orme and it's this:-
Penderyn must have to pay someone for the water they have extracted, but who will they have to pay?      Will it be the Country Park Dwr Cymru  or the landowner,  if I was a betting man I know who my money would be on
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 07, 2024, 03:58:40 pm
Croquet club's plan for new building, but it seems that not everyone is bowled over by the idea        ??? ???
 

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/croquet-clubs-plan-new-building-28391792
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 12, 2024, 09:50:15 am
MOSTYN STREET in Llandudno was closed for several hours yesterday evening (January 11) after a crash between a bus and car.

Emergency services were called to the scene shortly before 6pm, with North Wales Police and North Wales Fire and Rescue Service in attendance.

After freeing the occupants of the car, and clearing the vehicles, the road was reopened just after 9pm.

Nobody is thought to have been injured in the crash.   ref pioneer
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: DVT on January 12, 2024, 02:23:59 pm
20 mph ???
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 12, 2024, 06:47:31 pm
The local rag. ( pioneer ) says nobody was injured,,, so why was the poor bus driver still in hospital this afternoon.   
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 14, 2024, 10:10:00 am
How Llandudno?s goats helped turn novelty train into hit tourism attraction
They often gather to watch people passing by in the resort?s ?goats train?

On hour-long train trips around the headland, the driver likes to play spot-the-goat with passengers. It?s not hard. On some outings, it even feels like the game is reciprocated.

As Llandudno s Land Train rounds the Great Orme, troops of the goggle-eyed animals mass on cliff ledges as if to welcome the resort?s visitors as they pass by. Invariably, the train slows and, for a short while, the stupendous views play second fiddle to a bunch of unruly Kashmiri goats.

cont / photo  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/trips-breaks/how-llandudnos-goats-helped-turn-28442524?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 14, 2024, 04:26:26 pm
Llandudno bar cordoned off after major police response
Nine police vehicles an ambulance and a paramedic rapid response car were spotted outside Fountains in the early hours


A Llandudno pub was cordoned off as a large police presence descended on the Conwy resort last night. Fountains Bar and Caf? was reportedly evacuated following an incident in the early hours of this morning.
Witnesses reported seeing a person lying on the pavement outside the popular bar on Upper Mostyn Street. The nature of the incident has not been disclosed but it solicited a large response from the emergency services.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-bar-cordoned-after-major-28444329
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 14, 2024, 06:49:13 pm
Close the place down again, with them lot involved it?s always going to be trouble.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 16, 2024, 10:00:02 am
SNOOKER GREAT Ronnie O?Sullivan has travelled all across the UK and wider world in a career lasting more than 30 years.

But when asked which venues were his favourite, his answer for his most preferred in the UK was simple ? Llandudno.

After his semi-final victory at the Masters last week, a tournament he went on to win, he told SportsBoom.com: ?UK-wise, I?d have to say Llandudno, Llandudno?s nice. Other than that I?m struggling. I don?t like dirty. If I go somewhere where it?s dirty and damp I don?t like it.?

Llandudno will host the Welsh Open for the second year in a row after the success of the 2023 edition, which took place at Venue Cymru.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24050292.ronnie-osullivan-names-llandudno-favourite-uk-venue/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2024, 09:54:13 am
Councillors have reaffirmed their belief that proposals to transform Llandudno's former M&S store into a food and leisure hub would help revitalise the town centre. Mostyn Estates were granted planning permission before Christmas for a change of use of the building from retail to mixed use, including food, drink, and leisure.

But Conwy Council's planning committee were asked to reaffirm their decision this month after going against officers? advice in December. Then, planning officers felt the application didn?t include enough information and told the committee it should refuse the application in its current form, citing the potential of late-night trade affecting hotels and residents living on Somerset Street.

Members were warned to think "long and hard" before removing certain planning conditions; otherwise, homes could find themselves on the doorstep of a nightclub or takeaway. Such ventures, though, would need additional licences, and several committee members felt restricting the building?s potential uses could narrow its marketability, insisting it was key to Mostyn Street recovering after a shift in footfall from the town centre to the retail parks.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/former-llandudno-ms-store-perfect-28455352

Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?......... Alice Liddell's holiday home
Post by: SteveH on January 23, 2024, 09:54:13 am
THE site of Alice Liddell's holiday home earmarked for new housing is up for sale for ?2.25million.

The land where the second home of Alice Liddell once stood, the girl said to have inspired the Alice in Wonderland tales, has laid empty for years but "a high quality residential apartment scheme" or a healthcare related development could still be built.

Anwyl Homes had hoped to transform the former Penmorfa site on West Shore into apartments.

Proposals for redevelopment of the Penmorfa were being worked on; a consultation process was due to start in spring 2021 and a full planning application was due to be submitted that summer.

Sadly, building costs as well as other issues caused setbacks and now the site is up for sale with Legat Owen. The long 900-year lease is on the market for ?2,250,000 and expires in March 2922.

A description into the development site, by Legat Owen, states: "Planning permission was granted in 2008 for the demolition of the former hotel (which has been completed) and a scheme of 28 new build apartments over four floors (incl. ground) along with underground car parking.

cony / video  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24067444.llandudno-wonderland-development-site-market-2-25m/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on January 23, 2024, 10:19:39 am
Have you seen this Hugo.  Anwyl at their best. 😂.   Trying to sell up now after all these years.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 23, 2024, 11:03:05 am
Have you seen this Hugo.  Anwyl at their best. 😂.   Trying to sell up now after all these years.

My thoughts on Anwyl Construction are well known and unfortunately unprintable.       I've copied a bit from the advert and shown it below:-
"The property benefits from an extant planning permission for the development of an apartment scheme for 28 large apartments granted by Conwy County Borough Council on 26 June 2008. It is understood that this permission has been implemented."

That statement of course is a load of rubbish.    Planning permission expired in 2013 which is 11 years ago and as nothing has ever been done on the site by Anwyl Construction they cannot claim that the permission has been implemented

The site is a White Elephant and Anwyl Construction is either stupid or deceitful and I suspect that it's the latter.      The figures just don't add up and you don't have to be a rocket scientist or a CCBC planning Committee member to work that out.
If you pay 2,250,000 pounds for a plot of land and want to build 28 apartments on it then the land value per apartment works out at a staggering 80,000 plus and that's without any building costs!

It's a shame that there isn't a land banking tax that could be backdated to 2006 when all this nonsense started




Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 26, 2024, 11:03:53 pm
RECAP: Air ambulance in Llandudno after accident near pedestrian crossing shut road
Emergency services are at the scene of the collision near Mostyn Champneys retail park




https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-llandudno-after-28520927
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on January 27, 2024, 01:36:34 pm
War of words over 'land bank' accusation after Llandudno seaside development site put up for sale
The land at West Shore beach used to house a property called Penmorfa which had links with the Alice and Wonderland story

Why on earth is Anwyl Construction whinging about  criticism now.   In 2008 they applied for and were given permission to build 28 apartments on the site.     The artist's impression submitted by Anwyl Construction shows a good design and is in keeping with the other properties in the area, so why in the last 16 years has the company not built the apartments that they were given planning permision for?


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/war-words-over-land-bank-28521451
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 07, 2024, 09:08:37 am
Conwy's four paddling pools 'will be ready' for summer says county council
But no exact date has been given

I'm assuming that they are referring to the Summer of 2024?         ???

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwys-four-paddling-pools-will-28581472
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on February 08, 2024, 09:38:16 am
FINAL APPROVAL has been given to extensive plans to transform the old Marks & Spencer site in Llandudno into a three-floor retail, food and leisure hub.

The 61 Mostyn Street site was vacated by M&S in 2022, after the high street retailer relocated its main store to Parc Llandudno.

The building was briefly occupied by UK Leisure Living as a pop-up shop last year, but this was only a short-term lease.

Plans were submitted by site owners Mostyn Estates late last year, which will see the building become a three-storey area for retail, food and beverages, and indoor leisure areas.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24103670.final-approval-leisure-hub-plans-former-llandudno-m-s-site/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?............C Y D
Post by: SteveH on February 09, 2024, 09:44:04 am
Llandudno goats pause as they await 'snow' on chilly morning

RESIDENTS were delighted  :-\ to see Llandudno's famous Kashmiri goats pausing for thought in Craig-y-Don this morning.

The goats took a moment to reflect on the corner of Clarence Road.

They were probably wondering where all this 'baaaaaad' weather was!

A Yellow weather warning for snow was in force for Conwy county this morning from 6am but not a snowflake arrived.

cont/video  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24107023.llandudno-goats-pause-await-snow-chilly-morning/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?....Woman dies in Llandudno house fire trage
Post by: SteveH on February 10, 2024, 09:41:48 am
Woman dies in Llandudno house fire tragedy
Five fire engines were sent to the scene on Kings Road

A woman has tragically died following a fire at a house in Llandudno. North Wales Fire and Rescue Service was called to the property on Kings Road at 10.59am this morning, (Friday 9 February) after they received a report of a fire.

Two engines from Llandudno, two from Colwyn Bay and the aerial ladder platform from Rhyl, were sent to the scene along with fire officers, who are undertaking a joint investigation into the incident with North Wales Police.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-dies-llandudno-house-fire-28602570


Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?......27 best and worst places to live
Post by: SteveH on February 12, 2024, 10:19:21 am
27 best and worst places to live in North Wales shows big divide in one county
The rankings are based on factors like environment, jobs, schools and house values

A year of falling houses prices has redrawn Britain?s property map with new locations emerging as hotspots for natural beauty, quality of life and value for money. Picture-postcard towns with competitive property prices have moved up an annual index for the ?best places to live? in England and Wales.

In England, the leafy Berkshire village of Twyford heads the list thanks to its low crime rate, pollution-free air and fast train links to central London. Leading the way in Wales is the Vale of Glamorgan coastal resort of Barry, famed for its resurrected Barry Island Pleasure Park.

Nipping at Barry?s heels were two coastal towns in North Wales. Llandudno and Conwy both sat pretty on a list that wasn?t all that complimentary about other towns and cities in the region , see individual profiles below................

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/27-best-worst-places-live-28606748?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 12, 2024, 05:06:12 pm
The forgotten folks of Penrhynside
Both pubs in North Wales village struggling to stay afloat due to axed bus service and 20mph

An MS accuses bus companies of 'abandoning' entire communities as they blame new Welsh speed limit

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/both-pubs-north-wales-village-28616791
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Ian on February 12, 2024, 05:18:26 pm
Have you seen this Hugo.  Anwyl at their best. 😂.   Trying to sell up now after all these years.

The site is a White Elephant and Anwyl Construction is either stupid or deceitful

After watching Mr Bates vs. the Post Office and hearing, over many years, about deliberate obfuscation and downright lying that big companies have been found to have committed, I seriously wonder which major businesses are actually honest.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on February 12, 2024, 07:58:58 pm
Oh Hugo the wonderful Janet. As I?ve pointed out to others and I?ve asked the wonderful MP. Robin Millar another waste of space he won?t answer me,,, the number 12 Rhyl to Llandudno service used to go along Bryn y bia rd,,  it got stopped,,  yes by Janet the snooty residents didn?t want the passengers on the top looking into the gardens 😂😂.   The MD of Arriva at the time wanted to reinstate it but it was a big No.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 12, 2024, 11:31:43 pm
Have you seen this Hugo.  Anwyl at their best. 😂.   Trying to sell up now after all these years.

The site is a White Elephant and Anwyl Construction is either stupid or deceitful

After watching Mr Bates vs. the Post Office and hearing, over many years, about deliberate obfuscation and downright lying that big companies have been found to have committed, I seriously wonder which major businesses are actually honest.

It seems to happen in all walks of life,  I've said it before that I don't trust building developers but you can add Building consultants to the growing list of liars.     They submit an outline planning application and if it is passed then they immediately submit another application for an amendment to the original application.      One such consultant seems to have a stock phrase in his submissions and it is that "Colwyn Heights is within easy cycling distance of the amenities of Colwyn Bay"        I wonder if he has tried cycling up and down that steep hill to justify such  a stupid comment like that?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 13, 2024, 06:32:35 pm
Flytipped waste on Great Orme above 'Millionaire's Row' labelled 'horrendous' and 'disgusting'
Dumped carpets flapping in the wind were found halfway up the iconic landmark

This isn't the first time that scum have dumped litter on the Great Orme, perhaps it's time CCBC  installed a couple of CCTV cameras on the Marine Drive?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/flytipped-waste-great-orme-above-28626541
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on February 23, 2024, 10:35:57 pm
Tickets go live ahead of Waverley returning to Llandudno!
The  Paddle Steamer Waverley will return to North Wales from Monday, June 24 until Wednesday, June 26 after the "resounding" success of her sailings in 2023.

This time, for the first time this century, the world?s last seagoing paddle steamer will set sail from Holyhead.


https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24141033.tickets-go-live-ahead-waverley-returning-llandudno/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.....Punch and Judy has no plans to quit
Post by: SteveH on February 28, 2024, 09:40:39 am
Owner of Britain's oldest Punch and Judy has no plans to quit

THE custodian of Britain's oldest Punch and Judy show has come out swinging amid fears for the puppets' future - and says he has no plans to cancel.

Jason Codman, 55, says he has a "responsibility" to keep his booth in Llandudno running after 160 years of performances.

 ?We?ve never received funding from the council. The show covers its own costs: operating, maintaining, paying my rent and my licence.

?Crowds gather when I start the show. It?s popular, we still get a good crowd.?

Jason said he feels a lot of responsibility to keep the show going because it?s been in the family for five generations.

He said: ?We don?t make a living out of Punch and Judy. That?s not the purpose. Our motivation is the history.?

?It?s part of people?s memories. It?s an expectation Punch is going to be there [at the seaside].

?People would say Llandudno would not be the same without Punch and Judy on the promenade.?

More..........  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24148197.owner-britains-oldest-punch-judy-no-plans-quit/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 08, 2024, 09:40:12 am
VENUE Cymru in Llandudno has been awarded ?10million in the Chancellor?s Spring Budget 2024............ :-\

Jeremy Hunt revealed that ?100 million for levelling up culture projects will be set aside for nationally significant culture projects across Great Britain.

?10million will be provided to Venue Cymru for the transformation into an Arts and Conference venue. This is part of the original Aberconwy Futures Levelling Up bid.

Cllr Charlie McCoubrey, Leader of Conwy County Borough Council said: ?We are delighted Venue Cymru?s plans to deliver enhanced facilities have been recognised by UK Government as a nationally significant project. Arts and culture are of huge importance in delivering a positive economic impact and in supporting the wellbeing of our communities.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24168671.llandudnos-venue-cymru-awarded-10m-government-budget/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 11, 2024, 02:24:58 pm
Llandudno homes development now back underway after last builder went bust
Lane End Developments Construction, based in Warrington, went into administration in April 2023

I hope that the development now goes ahead without any more problems and that the houses  are all for local people

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-homes-development-now-back-28793800
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on March 11, 2024, 10:15:31 pm
Lane end were the first to go bust another company lasted a few weeks then went bust let?s see if K & C get them built.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 11, 2024, 10:52:21 pm
Let's hope that it goes through now Norman and that it is for local people, but is that expecting too much?
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: norman08 on March 11, 2024, 10:57:17 pm
We?ve had many meetings over the years locals can?t get the housing as they seem to give the houses to people from away, we?ve seen it on our old estate.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 12, 2024, 09:41:42 am
That's wrong Norman, local people should have a priority when it comes to housing.     Nothing seems to have changed then since I was living in Cwm Place over 50 years ago.
Even then people outside of Wales seemed to get priority for Council property and it's very wrong, especially for young local people
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?.........Scenes of unusually high tide
Post by: SteveH on March 12, 2024, 10:08:19 am
Scenes of unusually high tide off Llandudno beach

A RESIDENT captured an unusually high spring tide off Llandudno's North Beach.

A high tide of 8.4 metres was recorded in Llandudno at 11.15am today (Monday, March 11).

The tide is set to hit 8 metres at 11.43pm tonight and 8.5 metres at 11.57am tomorrow.

On Wednesday, the tide is set to reach 8.3 metres.

Natural Resources Wales has issued flood warnings for the next two days for areas along the North Wales coast from the Dee estuary to the East coast of Anglesey. This was updated at 8.07pm on March 11.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24177947.look-scenes-unusually-high-tide-off-llandudno-beach/
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: SteveH on March 13, 2024, 10:11:27 am
POLICE and an air ambulance helicopter are at the scene of an incident on Llandudno promenade.

A Wales Air Ambulance helicopter was seen landing on the promenade shortly after midday today (March 12)

A resident also reported seeing two police cars in the same area of the promenade.

Another resident said the helicopter had taken off and that they "hope the patient is okay and not too seriously hurt".

A Wales Air Ambulance spokesperson said: ?I can confirm that the Wales Air Ambulance attended an incident in the Llandudno region today (12/03/24).

"A team from Caernarfon attended by air and arrived on scene at 11:16. Our involvement concluded at 12:03.?

North Wales Police have been approached for comment.
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 14, 2024, 06:04:08 am
Llandudno Ferris wheel 2024 opening date set after X-rays give all-clear
The giant structure has undergone a series of rigorous safety tests
Rides are due to restart at around 11am on Saturday, March 16, as Llandudno?s attractions gear up for Easter and the start of the 2024 season. New light displays have been programmed on the Ferris wheel and these will alter again as the season progresses.


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-ferris-wheel-2024-opening-28811659
Title: Re: What's Llandudno Like Right Now?
Post by: Hugo on March 14, 2024, 09:34:21 pm
Llandudno homeless charity 'locked out' of church hall and now looking for new home
Hope Restored used the Lighthouse Community Church on West Shore but they have been told to move out by Saturday after electrical inspection found the hall 'unsafe'

I remember a forum member mentioning Brenda Fogg years ago and said she was a remarkable lady so I hope that this problem is soon resolved

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-homeless-charity-locked-out-28803471