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Title: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 14, 2010, 11:15:47 am
Am I alone in feeling exasperated at the sight of the floral tributes and messages to what was an act of reckless stupidity ? Instead of writing messages about angels and sleeping tight, doesn't anyone feel they want to write you stupid so and so, look what you have done.
Of course it a tragedy that another young life has been lost. His family will suffer for many, many years to come, probably forever.My deepest sympathy goes out to them but what of his friends and youth in general. What are they likely to learn. The answer is probably nothing.
There has been so much carnage even on local roads in the last few months it's time something was done to protect both the youngsters from themselves and to protect innocent third parties who might get involved. I refer to the fatal car accidents at the old Hotel 70 site, the Conwy tunnel, and a little further away, Menai Bridge and Aberystwyth.
As for this particular incident, as yet the full facts have not come to light. What is known though is that speed has played a part, as has inexperience.
This is the second accident at the same spot but lets get real, it's not the roads fault.
Who is to blame. We all are.
Jeremy Clarkson and his petrol head mentality that speed isn't the source of accidents.
The law allowing inexperienced drivers to carry passengers of similar age who are often the victims of show off driving.
Attempts by parents to get around high insurance costs by including their children as named drivers then not keeping control over the use of their children's cars.
Laws that have no restrictions on the size and power of vehicles that newly qualified drivers can drive.

and I'm sure you can think of many more.

However, there is one additional thought too.
Yesterday morning the "Arrive Alive " van was in action near the Links Hotel roundabout. Clocking errant drivers heading towards Asda as they strayed over the 40 mph mark. Later it was stationed by the paddling pool on the prom ( yes, the children have now gone back to school and the area was deserted because of the weather). I am all in favour of protecting pedestrians and , generally speaking , all in favour of speed cameras and mobile police traps but only when used to stop irresponsible driving in inappropriate places.
How often do you see gangs of youths with their suped up cars showing off around town at night. How do we seem to allow them to go unchecked as they turn suburban streets in to race tracks. Where is the speed trap then ?

Something has to be done surely ?
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 11:39:23 am
The insurance companies are imposing increasingly severe restrictions on young drivers - 'young' being defined, now, as below 25 - and this also means the size and power of car they drive.  The two biggest problems are drivers who use their parents' company cars - the insurances on which allow them to drive ,irrespective of age and power - and those who simply don't bother getting insured.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 11:58:46 am
We've all done foolish things when we were young; it's in the nature of youths to take risks, ignore potential dangers and push things to the limit. Here's an example:

When I was a lot younger, I was a passenger in a car crash by the Craigside Inn going over to Penrhyn Bay - it was night, the car was going a bit too fast, skidded on the wet road and ploughed into the stone wall, demolished a lamp post and then bounced across the road into the wall on the other side, then back into the middle of the road. There was 4 of us in the car, all of us were knocked unconscious in the crash. I (as front seat passenger) was the first to come to, smelt a very strong smell of petrol from the ruptured fuel tank and shouted for everyone to get out. Myself and the driver freed ourselves and forced open one of the rear doors to get the back seat passenger out. It was only then that we realised that the other back seat passenger was missing, he had been thrown out through the rear window and was lying about 20 feet away on the road. Fortunately, nobody was killed, although the guy that was thrown out through the  window received fairly serious injuries and had difficulty walking for some time.

Looking back at that particular accident, it's difficult to see (short of upping the age from which you can drive) how it could have been prevented. As you say, young drivers/passengers need to be protected from themselves but quite how you would go about that...I don't quite know? I'd certainly agree that the Police need to take a tougher line with speeding and showing off at night. Even during the day, you see the odd souped up car razzing around Llandudno making a massive noise - why do the Police not stop them for having such loud exhaust - is it against the law?
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 12:44:07 pm
They should, of course, but I suspect the only way to deal with the main issues is to raise the driving age to 21 at least.  I suspect there are too many vested interests that would prevent that happening, however.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Quiggs on September 14, 2010, 01:22:40 pm
I believe that it is illegal to have a noisy exhaust, they are usually fitted to increase performance, and would come under the heading of 'Being Modified', making the Car Insurance invalid if the Ins. Co. had not been notified.   )*)&
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Dave on September 14, 2010, 02:46:44 pm
We've all done foolish things when we were young; it's in the nature of youths to take risks, ignore potential dangers and push things to the limit.
Looking back at that particular accident, it's difficult to see (short of upping the age from which you can drive) how it could have been prevented.

Couldn't agree more, we have all done foolish things when we were younger, and maybe we still do. However, when it comes to cars, access to one is much easier than it was say, 30 years ago. Most families seem to have two cars so there is more chance there is one available for a sibling to borrow.

Some suggestions of regulations that could be imposed.

1) New driver plates which prevent carrying passengers unless they are accompanied by someone say, over 25.
2) Speed restrictions on any driver using new driver plates.
3) Punitive bans for anyone caught breaking new driver regulations including failing to display plates

A licence to drive is a desirable and valued item. The idea of losing it again should be enough to stop and make anyone think.
I also believe that reading case studies of accidents and getting prospective drivers to discuss or write about their conclusions of how that accident happened, who was to blame and what might have prevented it  might just get them thinking about the consequences of driving errors.

Incidentally, I have just returned from a walk around town and it struck me that there is far more effort put into policing parked cars than moving ones judging by the number of traffic wardens (I forget their new name) that are about.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Cymro on September 14, 2010, 03:47:08 pm
I was just about to start a very similar thread when I found this.

I agree totally with Dave and from first hand experience I am not suprised that again there has been a tragedy. I work in Llandudno most evenings and drive a very unfashionable car, I sometimes stop at McDonalds on my way home and am subjected to the reckless and idiotic actions of the cretins that use the carpark at Mostyn Champneys as a race track. They also frequently decide to use the A470 stretch between Llandudno and Black Cat as a race track and most evenings I am overtaken by large groups of cars travelling in convoy at high speeds and very close to eachother.

It is obvious where they are and what they are doing and there are police about becuase I often get targeted for a general check and breath test, always passing. Why do the police not do anything?! It is totally stupid, if they were to put a few cars on that stretch on any given night un announced they would be able to catch and punish a good handful of these idiots in one go.

I feel totally frustrated that I am being stopped so often simply because I am driving a car from town at chucking out time while these idiots are literally getting away with murder. Maybe they see me as an easy target, I won't give any cheek, I'll just take what they say on board and go on my way. They then tick their box to say they've stopped someone without the hassle of confronting these packs of idiots.

To catch these boy racers would be like taking candy from a baby, it's time they did and threw the book at them. Otherwise local florists will be have roaring trade in the near furture and if/when it happens I just hope it's one of these nutters behind the wheel and not somebody innocently walking their dog or coming home from the pub.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: norman08 on September 14, 2010, 04:06:13 pm
 it is nothing new i remember at least 40 years ago , a very bad accident in town [wont go in to detail] and another fatal one round the same time ,so we can,t say its the youngsters of today but yes something has to be done 
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Cymro on September 14, 2010, 04:11:57 pm
I should probably also point out that Ronnie Hughes has been in the paper blaming the road, suggesting that maybe a single lane would be safer. Lunacy! The road is totally safe, the speed limit is 40, but due to the long sweeping nature of the road I'm sure that even 50 would give you enough reaction time. Heaven knows what speed these nutters must have been doing to cause a fatality.

I suppose that's the culture these days, always somebody else to blame. Shame on them if they are still doing exactly the same thing tonight when I pass, if they don't learn now they never will.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 04:22:34 pm
I agree;  there's nothing wrong with the road. It is simply the young driver mentality, I suspect.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Bellringer on September 14, 2010, 04:24:39 pm
A group of people I have some sympathy with are those who live in the immediate area of the accident. They were awoken late at night last Thursday with the distressing sounds and sight of what happened, and now have to silently tolerate the scene of flowers and crowds gathered there as a constant reminder. When I passed earlier this afternoon there were about 10/15 people gathered there, but I know that there have been much larger groups from time to time.

I think it also worth mentioning the emergency services personnel who have to "pick up the pieces" - not a very pleasant task I am sure.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Merddin Emrys on September 14, 2010, 06:05:32 pm
I have to say that speed is not the problem but driving stupidly and badly is the problem, cameravans / speed cameras catch the wrong people and not the maniacs. The thing is you can measure speed but it's not easy to measure bad driving. We had a very bad crash 7 years ago, we were doing around 50 mph towing a caravan when a women coming towards us lost control (warm, sunny dry road) and hit us head on on our side of the road, the police would not prosecute her! :o they were not bothered, yet just going over a speed limit without any accident and you can get points and a fine, makes no sense to me!
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on September 14, 2010, 06:34:20 pm
I think speed cameras were largely a money-raising venture.  We need more actual traffic bobbies.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Dave on September 14, 2010, 07:13:55 pm
A fixed speed camera just before the accident spot might have prevented it. It would also slow down traffic approaching the roundabout. Trying to access the roundabout from Queens Rd can be quite daunting as cars fly straight on from the direction of town. These are the places were, In my humble opinion, cameras are a good thing.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: DaveR on September 14, 2010, 07:31:25 pm
A fixed speed camera just before the accident spot might have prevented it. It would also slow down traffic approaching the roundabout. Trying to access the roundabout from Queens Rd can be quite daunting as cars fly straight on from the direction of town. These are the places were, In my humble opinion, cameras are a good thing.
Definitely.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Michael on September 14, 2010, 09:03:03 pm
THERE IS something wrong with the road, but it is only a comparatively small thing, but might, just might, have made the difference. The camber of the road is not too good. I was aware of this 30 years or so ago because, as a HGV/PCV driver, you have to be aware of these things, otherwise you wont be driving for very long. Its not too bad, I've no doubt there are plenty of other spots as bad or worse. But, I always feel a bit guilty after hearing of an accident like this. Should I have made a fuss about it. And if I had, would it have made any diference? By the way, I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE CAMBER CAUSED IT. I am just pointing out that it might have made the marginal difference. Mike
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Yorkie on September 17, 2010, 11:24:37 am
One of the "modern" self- inflicted challenges to today's young motorists is to have "time trials" over a set course normally starting at a point (such as The Links), racing to a distant roundabout, and returning in the fastest time.  This is normally carried out in the late evenings when traffic is quiet, the police are not to be seen and the reckless actions of the, often inexperienced, driver can be witnessd by all his (or her) mates.

In the pursute of ever increasing speed and faster times, tragedy is inevitable. 

This happens all over the country and is not exclusive to Llandudno.

One answer could be for young drivers to be encouraged to join a recognised car group and get more experience in the company of more qualified drivers.  Many of these clubs and groups have "track days" held under the guidance of experienced rally or track drivers and these days can fulfill the desire for speed in a safe environment and also improve general driving skills.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Dwyforite on September 18, 2010, 12:20:34 am
many years ago when i had a motor bike we used to race up conwy road before the new road,when we got to about fifty yards short of the old g.p.o.building we would get right into the gutter on the left hand side and then aim the bike at the apex of the bend,because we knew that there was an adverse camber to the bend.at a later date we also done this with cars,at this time conway road had a lot of older trees which were killers if you struck them.the bend could be improved,a small wall on the outside of the bend and the road raised to improve the camber with a crash barrier on the top.but the bottm line is observing the speed limits ,i didnt but was lucky,some were not,as you get older you tend to learn by your mistakes and even better by others
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Yorkie on September 18, 2010, 07:53:45 am
the bend could be improved,a small wall on the outside of the bend and the road raised to improve the camber with a crash barrier on the top.

What a great idea - NOT!   Turning our roads into a "safe" haven for speeders is no answer!   ))*
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Bellringer on September 18, 2010, 08:17:38 pm
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Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: TheMedz on September 18, 2010, 09:48:00 pm
On the evidence of some of the driving we encountered coming back into town from Llanrwst this evening some people obviously have already forgotten the accident and any possible lessons they could have learned from it. The car overtaking us on the approach to the same roundabout (in sight of all the floral tributes) must have been doing 60 or 70 mph.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on September 19, 2010, 08:13:50 am
I've rarely encountered those sorts of speeds there, but I only drive that road during daylight hours.  Most of the time it's people who seem to have no concept whatsoever of lane discipline, signalling or the existence of other road users.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Yorkie on September 19, 2010, 09:34:33 am
A couple of coppers with a stinger for an hour or so each night would sort the problem!   WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: DaveR on September 29, 2010, 06:33:09 pm
A PARTY goer was two-and-a-half times over the drink drive limit when he went out to buy more booze and crashed, killing himself and injuring two others.

Frankie James Clark, 23, lost control of his Peugeot 106 and smashed into a lorry at almost 70mph in a 40mph zone at the A55’s Conwy tunnel, an inquest heard.

The accident caused hours of tailbacks on October 22. Mr Clark, of Llandudno, was travelling westbound but the tunnel entrance was closed for maintenance and traffic was being diverted into a single lane contraflow.

He skidded at least 60 metres (198 feet) into a white, Scania HGV lorry at about 2am. He died from “head trauma”.

His back seat passenger Jemma Hender, 20, was badly hurt. Front seat passenger Wayne Edward King, 20, suffered a seatbelt burn mark. All three wore seatbelts. The Spanish haulier was driving correctly in his own lane at 39.9mph and was not seriously hurt.

Kirit Champaneria, North East Wales assistant deputy coroner, heard Mr Clark and Mr King had earlier called at a Craig y Don flat of friend Clare Jones.

Mr King said Mr Clark had been on an Anti-Social Behaviour Order not to drink in a pub but drank in a party at the flat. Mr Clark also had a “couple of pulls off a spliff of cannabis”.

Mr Clark had twice borrowed Clare’s car with her permission to buy alcohol and had gone out the second time to Tesco in Llandudno Junction.

Maintenance worker William Walker was standing in an A55 layby and heard the Peugeot approach Conwy Tunnel at speed: “I was very concerned,” he said. “Twenty metres before the chicane, there was smoke and a screech. The HGV came out of the eastbound portal and I heard an almighty bang as they collided.”

Recording an accidental death verdict, the coroner found Mr Clark had 200mg of alcohol per litre in his blood, the legal limit being 80mg. Traces of cocaine were also found in his body.

After a joint report by accident investigators Sergeant Colin Dobbins and Gary Roberts, Mr Roberts estimated Mr Clark was travelling at least 66mph.

He added: “He was 2.5 times the maximum legal alcohol limit. This would have adversely affected his judgement and ability to drive safely. This was the overriding factor and the cause of the collision. His speed was excessive and inappropriate.”

But Mr Roberts said no similar collision had been caused in the previous five years at a chicane style contraflow. He has nonetheless contacted the North Wales Trunk Road Agency to discuss the lay-out of such roadworks.

Frankie’s elder brother Joseph Clark told the inquest in Prestatyn that Frankie, a former Ysgol John Bright pupil and a Manchester United FC fan, was a qualified bricklayer and a fitness fanatic with many friends. Joseph had himself lost his daughter Chloe in an A55 road accident on Rhuallt Hill in 2008.

At Frankie’s inquest, Jemma Hender’s parents Norman and Louise described her injuries. She had broken eye sockets, chest and neck bones. Her left arm, wrist and leg were also broken. She can’t straighten her arms and is having surgery to rebuild her elbows. Mrs Hender said: “We would like to thank Frankie’s family for their care and concern for us.”

They also praised the police and emergency services. Mr Hender added: “Jemma will need surgery to rebuild her elbows. But she is back at work as a cleaner in Llandudno Hospital.”
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Trojan on September 29, 2010, 09:55:40 pm
Recording an accidental death verdict, the coroner found Mr Clark had 200mg of alcohol per litre in his blood, the legal limit being 80mg. Traces of cocaine were also found in his body.

So....did the excessive alcohol & traces of drugs find their way into his body by "accident?"
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Fester on September 30, 2010, 01:03:52 am
Drink Driving might be a terrible thing ... BUT, there is nothing worse than having a crash when you are sober !!

Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: majormellons on October 03, 2010, 01:43:15 am
Drink Driving might be a terrible thing ... BUT, there is nothing worse than having a crash when you are sober !!
Just what point are trying to make there?

"Drink driving might be a terrible thing"......MIGHT?

Compare this to an accident when sober?
Please let me know what drugs you are being prescribed because that can't of statement is not made by someone compos mentis. If you are going to come on this forum and pass comment, at least do it sober.

Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on October 03, 2010, 08:11:20 am
Fester was being tongue-in-cheek. If you read his other posts you will see that his sense of humour is alive and well.  :'(
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Yorkie on October 03, 2010, 09:21:18 am
Of course, contrary to popular conception, there is no such thing as an accident.   *&(
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on October 03, 2010, 09:26:05 am
The Freudians believe that, but I always wonder about sudden catastrophic failure, such as an element failing abruptly without apparent reason.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Yorkie on October 03, 2010, 09:28:20 am
Failure is progressive as any engineer will tell you, and routine inspection, even by non destructive testing could herald an incident!    ))*
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2010, 10:21:02 am
The Freudians believe that, but I always wonder about sudden catastrophic failure, such as an element failing abruptly without apparent reason.

The element failing abruptly is usually the nut behind the wheel, sometimes drunk, sometimes not, I've been hit several times by both types :(  all ok now though :)
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Yorkie on October 03, 2010, 11:37:53 am
There is an interesting discourse on Accident here:
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/accident (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/accident)

 *&(
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Pendragon on October 03, 2010, 05:12:40 pm
On my sons 17th birthday I bought him his provisional License lke many other parents thinking he would gain his own independence.  However as the last few years alone have shown in the area this was not a good idea at all. I have a 13yr old at the moment and I truly hope they up the age to 21.  Y'see teenagers have no idea of consequence, I think they should be governed to cars with a small engine like a fiesta or something similar.  The individuals involved in accidents like this had no intention of injuring themselves or anyone else and thats the problem. They are as gutted as everyone else and the guilt will be with them forever, this lad was their friend. Such a shame.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2010, 05:24:02 pm
cars with a small engine these days can still go fast though, we have a Nissan Micra which is only a one litre engine and its amazing how well it goes (and I'm someone who years ago had a RS2000 Escort, 3.4 mk2 Jaguar, two Rover 3500 SD1 's etc etc in the days of cheap petrol 8) )  But you are right that teenagers have no concept of consequence, is it down to computor games where you 'die' but come back time and time again? ?
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on October 03, 2010, 06:18:18 pm
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But you are right that teenagers have no concept of consequence, is it down to computor games where you 'die' but come back time and time again? ?

I suspect it's more to do with the fact that the young don't learn from history, only from experience.  Most young folk think themselves immortal;  I certainly did.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2010, 06:24:05 pm
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But you are right that teenagers have no concept of consequence, is it down to computor games where you 'die' but come back time and time again? ?

I suspect it's more to do with the fact that the young don't learn from history, only from experience.  Most young folk think themselves immortal;  I certainly did.

I still think I'm immortal at 54 :) I was always more worried about severe injuries than death
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on October 03, 2010, 06:25:44 pm
But you were worried.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Pendragon on October 03, 2010, 06:28:07 pm
cars with a small engine these days can still go fast though, we have a Nissan Micra which is only a one litre engine and its amazing how well it goes (and I'm someone who years ago had a RS2000 Escort, 3.4 mk2 Jaguar, two Rover 3500 SD1 's etc etc in the days of cheap petrol 8) )  But you are right that teenagers have no concept of consequence, is it down to computor games where you 'die' but come back time and time again? ?
Yeah, I was talking to a friend about the subject only the other day, we said games like Colin Mcrae (showing my age now) probably contribute but are not entirely to blame. Young men are obsessed with "speed" "power" and "winning" all traits defined by human nature. Of course cars fit the bill on all points.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Merddin Emrys on October 03, 2010, 06:30:58 pm
But you were worried.
a bit and I have quite some history of car crashes (none of which were my fault on the road!) one on a hillclimb track in a Triumph Vittesse many moons ago L0L
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Pendragon on October 03, 2010, 06:37:53 pm
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But you are right that teenagers have no concept of consequence, is it down to computor games where you 'die' but come back time and time again? ?

I suspect it's more to do with the fact that the young don't learn from history, only from experience.  Most young folk think themselves immortal;  I certainly did.
I realised as my kids were growing up, we all only learn from our mistakes I don't know anyone who thought their parents knew best or ever listened. The hardest thing about being a parent is knowing your children are heading for a fall and all you can do is stand by and help pick up the pieces.  I suppose the hardest thing for a young person is realising their parents were right all along, but usually by this time the damage has been done.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Yorkie on October 03, 2010, 06:40:47 pm
For my sins I am a qualified Observer for the Institute of Advanced Motorists and also a Gold Award RoSPA Advanced Driver.  I believe that all new drivers should carry on and get further driving tuition by taking an Advanced Driving course.  The I.A.M. only charge about £140 which includes ALL tuition until one passes the Test, 1 year Annual Membership, Tuition Literature, and Test Fee.   When you consider the cost of one dent in your car or the cost of learning to drive it is a small price to pay to bring your Son or Daughter up to a Standard equivalent to the Police Roadcraft qualification.   :D

RoSPA also operate a similar system but with, what I consider, a harder test, and at a lesser cost.  ZXZ

The IAM have  a North Wales Group and RoSPA are in the process of forming a North Wales Group.   If anyone has any queries they can PM me direct.     )*)&

In my time I have had "pupils" from 19 to 65, the yougest and oldest both passing their test with flying colours!   D)

Christmas is just around the corner!
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Fester on October 04, 2010, 01:31:58 am
Drink Driving might be a terrible thing ... BUT, there is nothing worse than having a crash when you are sober !!
Just what point are trying to make there?

"Drink driving might be a terrible thing"......MIGHT?

Compare this to an accident when sober?
Please let me know what drugs you are being prescribed because that can't of statement is not made by someone compos mentis. If you are going to come on this forum and pass comment, at least do it sober.

Pendragon talks an awful lot of sense on this subject....
But Major Mellons would like to know what drugs I am on.
Well I can tell you, Originally it was Calpol,  then as the years went by I turned more to Junior Aspirin, (just loved that crumbly orangy feeling) ..
But now, I really more on Prozac to keep me awake on the Forum until these uhholy hours.., and WD40 for my creaking knees.

Whats your poison?





Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on October 04, 2010, 07:46:57 am
Both our sons have passed their IAM test, and it makes a difference to their driving beyond a shadow of a doubt. Like Yorkie, I took mine many years ago and became an observer with a group; it's something that everyone should try and it helps you become a much better driver.

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The hardest thing about being a parent is knowing your children are heading for a fall and all you can do is stand by and help pick up the pieces.

So true...
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Trojan on October 04, 2010, 08:31:14 am
Drink Driving might be a terrible thing ... BUT, there is nothing worse than having a crash when you are sober !!
Just what point are trying to make there?

"Drink driving might be a terrible thing"......MIGHT?

Compare this to an accident when sober?
Please let me know what drugs you are being prescribed because that can't of statement is not made by someone compos mentis. If you are going to come on this forum and pass comment, at least do it sober.

Pendragon talks an awful lot of sense on this subject....
But Major Mellons would like to know what drugs I am on.
Well I can tell you, Originally it was Calpol,  then as the years went by I turned more to Junior Aspirin, (just loved that crumbly orangy feeling) ..
But now, I really more on Prozac to keep me awake on the Forum until these uhholy hours.., and WD40 for my creaking knees.

Whats your poison?


Was always a Haliborange kid myself.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: majormellons on October 04, 2010, 09:40:26 am
Drink Driving might be a terrible thing ... BUT, there is nothing worse than having a crash when you are sober !!
Just what point are trying to make there?

"Drink driving might be a terrible thing"......MIGHT?

Compare this to an accident when sober?
Please let me know what drugs you are being prescribed because that can't of statement is not made by someone compos mentis. If you are going to come on this forum and pass comment, at least do it sober.

Pendragon talks an awful lot of sense on this subject....
But Major Mellons would like to know what drugs I am on.
Well I can tell you, Originally it was Calpol,  then as the years went by I turned more to Junior Aspirin, (just loved that crumbly orangy feeling) ..
But now, I really more on Prozac to keep me awake on the Forum until these uhholy hours.., and WD40 for my creaking knees.

Whats your poison?



I confess I do have a parchant for Cider......on special occasions only, of course.
Title: Road conditions in the area
Post by: zaskar on December 22, 2010, 05:27:34 pm
Hiya guys, Merry Christmas to everyone, hope you're coping OK in these conditions cos the webs cams look like you've had it MUCH harder than us in Cheshire?

Could someone please help me with road conditions?
We had such a great time in your neck of the woods last Christmas that wifey and I are coming back again :D
Thing is, we have a VERY large American 5th wheel trailer that we pull with a pick up and I'm worried about being able to get to the campsite.

Our route will be........  A55 to Conwy, then B5106 through Gyffyn village to a small farm campsite just up the hill from the Groes Inn.
I'm worried about the hill out of Gyffyn village.

We're due to arrive on Friday late morning, conditions/safety allowing so if anyone in the know could use this post to keep me updated, I'd be extremely grateful.

Thanks :D
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: Nemesis on December 22, 2010, 05:29:49 pm
Have a look on the thread The Great British Weather Debate!
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: zaskar on December 22, 2010, 05:33:31 pm
Have a look on the thread The Great British Weather Debate!

Will do. Many thanks. Much appreciated. $thanx$
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: DaveR on December 22, 2010, 05:38:11 pm
I'm worried about the hill out of Gyffyn village.
Welcome to the Forum.

My guess would be that it will be a tall order to get a trailer up there today, putting it mildly! But by Friday, hmmm. One of our members lives in that area - Stan, do you have any info? :)  

I wonder what the bottom road from Gyffin to Groes Inn is like (thinking of a way of avoiding Gyffin Hill)?
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: zaskar on December 22, 2010, 05:47:06 pm
Thanks Dave, much appreciated.  I'll keep checking back in here until we (hopefully!) leave on Friday. Just been looking at the latest traffic cams and FLIPPIN' 'ECK!!!!!.....you've had it bad!  Unless things improve substantially by Friday, I think I'll sack it! No way am I risking me or anyone else with a 4 tonne trailer on ice! Z@@
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: Bellringer on December 22, 2010, 05:50:17 pm
Living in Gyffin, I can tell you that vehicles are going up and down the hill but the road width is reduced at present, and as someone who tows a c/van, I wouldn't attempt going up it or down with a c/van on the back in the present conditions. The road has been gritted and a snowplough has been along. The hill down to the Groes and up from there to your campsite could be a bit tricky too.

If you watch this thread, I will drive the stretch from Gyffin village to your campsite tomorrow morning and post my opinion on here afterwards.

Merry Christmas

PS Dave and I were obviously typing at the same time and things could be better by Friday morning if there is a good thaw but the forecast suggests it is going to remain cold and a rapid thaw is unlikely.

BTW  Do you know what the campsite conditions are like?
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: zaskar on December 22, 2010, 05:55:40 pm
Hi Bellringer.  Thanks VERY much indeed mate, wifey says "God bless him"  :D 
Been trying to ring the CL but getting no answer at the mo. I'll keep trying and I will keep an eye on this thread.
Going for my tea now! Starving! ;D

All the best

Z
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: Bellringer on December 22, 2010, 06:05:58 pm
I was in Alsager yesterday visiting an elderly aunt. We set off from there just after 5pm arriving in Gyffin a little before 7pm. We started to see the odd snowflake on the south Chester by-pass and by Abergele/Colwyn Bay it was coming down quite nicely. I wouldn't have wanted to have arrived home much later and some of the pics posted on here today under different threads will indicate very clearly how much fell.
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: zaskar on December 23, 2010, 09:36:16 am
Hi Bellringer.

Hope I caught you in time here.  Just got through to the CL on the phone and they say "no chance"  :-[ Absolutely gutted cos I was so looking forward to it. It's a beautiful area.  :'(  Apparantly, the road up the valley is pretty good but the entrance to Eirianwas Farm is sheet ice and they dont think I'll get up the sloping drive into the campsite.
 Cette la Vie, as they say, better safe than sorry.

Many thanks to you, and everyone else on this thread for all your help and advise.
Have a wonderful and safe Christmas.
Best wishes
Paul & ffiona
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on December 23, 2010, 10:02:17 am
Same to you folks, and let's hope you make it in the New Year :-))
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on December 23, 2010, 10:46:20 am
Sorry you are missing our wonderful scenery, but better to be safe.
Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Road conditions-B5106- Groes Inn
Post by: Bellringer on December 23, 2010, 11:08:20 am
  :'(  Apparantly, the road up the valley is pretty good but the entrance to Eirianwas Farm is sheet ice and they dont think I'll get up the sloping drive into the campsite.
 Cette la Vie, as they say, better safe than sorry.

Many thanks to you, and everyone else on this thread for all your help and advise.
Have a wonderful and safe Christmas.
Best wishes
Paul & ffiona

Only just logged in and seen your posting. I have been down to Tyn-y-Groes (needed some bales of hay for my wife's pet sheep), and as you have been told the B5106 is passable with care needed in places. Had a good look at the entrance to your CL and thought that would be the big problem. My advice would have been "don't attempt it".

Pity because the views from the CL are spectacular at any time but at the moment even more so.
Best wishes with your alternative Christmas.

Stan
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: zaskar on December 23, 2010, 11:19:43 am
Thanks Stan, very much appreciated.  Never mind, as it happens, the Cheshire CL where we're based is very beautiful and there's a lovely little pub across the field so it'll still be a great Christmas.
Biggest loss is not being in the hills. Miss them terribly! Cheshire is lovelly, but my God it's flat! ;D

Merry Christmas! $wales $uk
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: JasonW on December 23, 2010, 04:12:58 pm
Latest News from Conwy CBC:

GrittingThe weather continues to be exceptionally severe and the winter maintenance crews have been working round the clock to keep the main network open.
At the start of the season we had 10,500 tonnes of salt in stock, we currently have 3,800 tonnes.   
Over the Christmas weekend, the winter maintenance teams will continue to treat primary routes and respond to requests from Emergency Services, Social Services and Animal Health (in relation to serious animal welfare matters).
The public are advised to note the conditions and take extra care.


Bin and Recycling CollectionsCrews are back on the road today (Thursday 23rd December), collecting refuse and recycling from all areas that have been safe to access, given the weather conditions. Unfortunately, many side roads, hills and inland areas are still inaccessible with our 18-tonne refuse and recycling vehicles.
We will reassess the travel conditions daily and every effort will be made to resume scheduled collections in areas that are clear of snow and ice. We will also be using additional resources to collect from areas that have been missed.
If you have been affected, please leave out your recycling containers and refuse bin for our crew to collect when practical to do so on Friday 24th December and from Monday 27th December onwards.
There will be no collections on Christmas Day and Boxing Day.
We appreciate the inconvenience that this causes residents, and are grateful for your patience.
The recycling centres in Mochdre and Abergele are open to the public every day, apart from Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year’s Day.

Public Conveniences
All public conveniences are closed and will remain closed until further notice.


Council Office Opening HoursCouncil offices will close at 4pm on Friday 24 December and will re-open at 8.45am on Wednesday 29th December 2010.


Further information and advice is available on the website at www.conwy.gov.uk (http://www.conwy.gov.uk)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 23, 2010, 04:32:32 pm
Thanks for the update, Jason.

I can still see you doing this good work even when you become our new Assembly Member.

Good luck.   ££$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on December 23, 2010, 05:28:43 pm
the Cheshire CL where we're based is very beautiful and there's a lovely little pub across the field so it'll still be a great Christmas.
Biggest loss is not being in the hills. Miss them terribly! Cheshire is lovelly, but my God it's flat! ;D

Where is that CL? I could well be looking for one not too far away from next Spring onwards.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Quiggs on December 23, 2010, 05:38:28 pm
just a thought, something like 15,000 tons of salt used and maybe more to come. When the thaw comes, how much will the environment be affected by the salt washing down streams and fields etc.?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on December 23, 2010, 08:39:34 pm
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how much will the environment be affected by the salt washing down streams and fields etc.?

It'll kill a lot of plant life,  that's for sure. And there's also the tons of grit.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on December 24, 2010, 10:03:29 am
MY OH has just read in the paper that animals who walk on the gritted roads and pavements can be very ill or die from Anti-Freeze poisoning.
Sounds awful, must be careful with Frizzy's paws.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on December 31, 2010, 07:08:29 pm
I don't think Anti-freeze is used on roads and pavements.  It is normally reserved for Car cooling systems and Italian Wine.             L0L
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on December 31, 2010, 08:34:31 pm
 _))*
The anti freeze I think they mean is the stuff they put in de-icer sprays. The stuff in car radiators is ethylene glycol.Car de-icer sprays are often methanol. Shouldn't fancy swallowing either !
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on December 31, 2010, 08:41:04 pm
Very good as a mouth wash though!         _))*
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on December 31, 2010, 08:46:08 pm
The rock salt used on roads/pavements can also irritate dogs paws etc.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on December 31, 2010, 09:31:20 pm
Which is why it is important to wash your pet's feet and any other vulnerable parts when you have been out in such weather.      D)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on December 31, 2010, 10:29:13 pm
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Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 01, 2011, 08:22:34 am
_))*
The anti freeze I think they mean is the stuff they put in de-icer sprays. The stuff in car radiators is ethylene glycol.Car de-icer sprays are often methanol. Shouldn't fancy swallowing either !

if you've ever had cheap wine then you might well have swallowed some  L0L
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 01, 2011, 06:29:29 pm
You're ok Nemesis as you can tuck Frizzy under your arm,  I've got no chance with Marco!   :)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Trojan on January 02, 2011, 12:00:23 am
You're ok Nemesis as you can tuck Frizzy under your arm,  I've got no chance with Marco!   :)

I know a woman who can tuck frizzy under her arm too.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Fester on January 02, 2011, 12:20:39 am
You been pulling birds in Iraq again, Trojan?

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 02, 2011, 01:17:34 pm
You're ok Nemesis as you can tuck Frizzy under your arm,  I've got no chance with Marco!   :)

I know a woman who can tuck frizzy under her arm too.

OMG that's gross ! :puke2:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Trojan on January 03, 2011, 01:57:21 am
You been pulling birds in Iraq again, Trojan?


No, it was taken in my relatives electrolysis salon on the Finchley Road NW London.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Pendragon on January 04, 2011, 10:31:59 pm
Ha ha My Hubby always says he fancied Julia Roberts till the hairy armpit photos, it repulsed him lol
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Fester on January 05, 2011, 12:13:13 am
Yeah... its nots not pleasant, although some blokes have a fetish about it apparently, (I'm not one of them)

But... at the end of the day, ITS JULIA ROBERTS !!!!   And I still would.   Who wouldn't?

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Trojan on January 07, 2011, 01:30:56 am
Yeah... its nots not pleasant, although some blokes have a fetish about it apparently, (I'm not one of them)

But... at the end of the day, ITS JULIA ROBERTS !!!!   And I still would.   Who wouldn't?


Does your wife ever read this forum Fester?  L0L
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Fester on January 07, 2011, 01:34:41 am
Nah mate,  she's too busy shaving her armpits!   L0L
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Trojan on January 07, 2011, 01:41:01 am
Nah mate,  she's too busy shaving her armpits!   L0L

 _))*
Title: House damage by car crash Black Gate
Post by: dingo20 on January 08, 2011, 01:00:11 pm
Has anyone see the house at the and of Old Road / Black Gate on the Orme damage by the 2 x cars and van that crashed into it over Christmas I think it's getting worse! I feel sorry for Brian he's been made homeless and ended up in a naff hostel in Colwyn Bay (bet he had a great Christmas)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 08, 2011, 02:09:00 pm
I agree, I thought it looked worse when I passed the other day.
Have spoken to Brian a couple of times, seems very fed up-- with good reason.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: TheMedz on January 08, 2011, 06:47:55 pm
Every day and another bit of the wall and guttering seems to have fallen onto the floor. I'm really surprised something has not been put in place to support the roof over the front door.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on January 08, 2011, 06:57:34 pm
Sounds like it needs propping up if movement is still occurring.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: TheMedz on January 08, 2011, 07:14:13 pm
My first suggestion would be putting a substantial cement "ram raider proof"  type bollard directly in front. One more vehicle of any sort in that wall and the whole lot is down  irrespective of whether they put props in place or not.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 08, 2011, 09:17:50 pm
Trouble is it covers 3 floors.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Jack on January 20, 2011, 06:06:12 pm
Traffic lights near the Craigside Inn are causing long tail backs in both directions.  At lunchtime the queue of traffic trying to get out of Llandudno stretched from Craigside Inn all the way back to the paddling pool.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: TheMedz on January 20, 2011, 08:39:55 pm
My clutch has just about got over the trial of trying to get up the hill in that traffic. You always think I won't put the handbrake on yet it will be moving in a minute. You'd think after the first couple of times of not reaching the traffic lights I would learn but oh no!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 20, 2011, 08:50:58 pm
Get an automatic!   Modern automatics are the answer to driving with todays traffic problems.       <:<:<:<
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 20, 2011, 09:36:47 pm
Traffic lights near the Craigside Inn are causing long tail backs in both directions.  At lunchtime the queue of traffic trying to get out of Llandudno stretched from Craigside Inn all the way back to the paddling pool.

Tell me about it, there were two lots of lights between Llandudno and Rhos this morning. Chaos reigned.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 20, 2011, 10:17:53 pm
Get an automatic!   Modern automatics are the answer to driving with todays traffic problems.       <:<:<:<

so many automatics seem to end up going through shop windows  :o
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 21, 2011, 08:42:41 am
Usually the driver-- not the car!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 21, 2011, 09:30:15 am
If you put your foot on the accelerator, whether the car is manual or automatic, and the car is in gear, it will move!    It is just a case of driving skills.    >>>
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on January 21, 2011, 09:54:49 am
Yes, the recent case of the car in Rhos happened because the driver pressed the accelerator instead of the brake.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 21, 2011, 10:52:20 am
If you put your foot on the accelerator, whether the car is manual or automatic, and the car is in gear, it will move!    It is just a case of driving skills.    >>>

I agree 100% however most of the shop window, supermarket carpark incidents seem to involve automatics, i've driven autos with no problem myself, but i do prefer manual  ^*^0
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 21, 2011, 03:06:52 pm
I regularly leap from my auto to the Wife's manual and am used to driving both as many of us do.  However when using the auto I still drive with two feet, using the right for the accelerator and the left for braking!   It is something I have got used to over the years but something that others find peculiar!   
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on January 21, 2011, 08:34:03 pm
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when using the auto I still drive with two feet, using the right for the accelerator and the left for braking!   It is something I have got used to over the years but something that others find peculiar!

It can be dangerous, too, as it increases the risk of depressing both simultaneously. However, I much prefer autos to stick drive.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 21, 2011, 08:47:49 pm
Well, I have been doing it for at least 40 years and haven't had any problems so far.   However, I don't recommend it to my pupils when I'm teaching Advanced and Defensive driving! 

I don't see how it can increase any risk of depressing both at once, because either one wants to increase or maintain a constant speed or slow down! 

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on January 22, 2011, 08:25:26 am
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I don't see how it can increase any risk of depressing both at once, because either one wants to increase or maintain a constant speed or slow down! 

It's been found that those who transfer to auto driving from stick driving are used to the two-foot approach to stop quickly (Brake and Clutch) and that - when transferring to an automatic - instinct can take over in an emergency situation, and they slam both feet down to stop.  Now, in any modern auto, the brake easily overrides the accelerator effect, but, in some of the earlier autos, that instinctive reaction caused the car to lurch forward. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 22, 2011, 09:36:11 am
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I don't see how it can increase any risk of depressing both at once, because either one wants to increase or maintain a constant speed or slow down! 

It's been found that those who transfer to auto driving from stick driving are used to the two-foot approach to stop quickly (Brake and Clutch) and that - when transferring to an automatic - instinct can take over in an emergency situation, and they slam both feet down to stop.  Now, in any modern auto, the brake easily overrides the accelerator effect, but, in some of the earlier autos, that instinctive reaction caused the car to lurch forward. 

and end up through a shop window!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on January 22, 2011, 10:21:11 am
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I don't see how it can increase any risk of depressing both at once, because either one wants to increase or maintain a constant speed or slow down! 

It's been found that those who transfer to auto driving from stick driving are used to the two-foot approach to stop quickly (Brake and Clutch) and that - when transferring to an automatic - instinct can take over in an emergency situation, and they slam both feet down to stop.  Now, in any modern auto, the brake easily overrides the accelerator effect, but, in some of the earlier autos, that instinctive reaction caused the car to lurch forward. 

and end up through a shop window!

Or totally accident free depending on the skill of the driver!   ¢¢##
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on January 22, 2011, 12:20:41 pm
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I don't see how it can increase any risk of depressing both at once, because either one wants to increase or maintain a constant speed or slow down! 

It's been found that those who transfer to auto driving from stick driving are used to the two-foot approach to stop quickly (Brake and Clutch) and that - when transferring to an automatic - instinct can take over in an emergency situation, and they slam both feet down to stop.  Now, in any modern auto, the brake easily overrides the accelerator effect, but, in some of the earlier autos, that instinctive reaction caused the car to lurch forward. 

and end up through a shop window!

Or totally accident free depending on the skill of the driver!   ¢¢##


again I agree 100% with that, I'll stick with manual though  ^*^0
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Yorkie on March 14, 2011, 04:46:58 pm
Never Text While Driving (Bloody) - Government Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4-4w5xTiEo#ws)
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: brumbob on March 14, 2011, 05:38:51 pm
very graphic, it's better to drive a large 4x4
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Trojan on March 14, 2011, 05:43:25 pm
very graphic, it's better to drive a large 4x4

Or a Foden.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Ian on March 15, 2011, 07:46:06 am
I've moved the jokey posts following to Clean Jokes.
Title: A55 disruption
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2011, 08:16:43 am
A topic for anything to do with driving anywhere except the A55 in North Wales.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2011, 08:17:23 am
Will the new generation of electric cars mean a quieter summer in the future?
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A comprehensive charging network is currently under development in the UK, and Nissan's network of EV dealers – currently 26 sites nationwide – will be equipped with a quick charger, which will charge the battery from zero to 80% capacity in under 30 minutes. Across the UK there are programmes under way to install around 9,000 charge points by 2013.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: mull on March 26, 2011, 11:57:16 am
How many windmills to charge one car for 30 minutes ? *&(
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2011, 12:00:23 pm
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How many windmills to charge one car for 30 minutes ?

Reminds me of the maths problems I used to get in primary school....
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2011, 12:08:04 pm
If I had an electric car I would get myself a wind generator for my back garden, presuming such an arrangement is feasible.   ZXZ
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: brumbob on March 26, 2011, 12:29:56 pm
Why would you want to generate wind Yorkie?
Isn't it already windy enough in North Wales  :laugh:

I think it will be many moons before electric cars can replace fossil fuel burners,
at the moment they are completely useless for the majority of people, not only because of cost and mileage
but charging points and time taken to charge will be the biggest issue.
The batteries which will have to be replaced every three years will wipe out the second hand market of such vehicles.
Hybrid cars have a better future but mpg is little better than the new generation of diesel cars you can buy now.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2011, 01:22:32 pm
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at the moment they are completely useless for the majority of people, not only because of cost and mileage

Research indicates that the majority of people drive fewer then 40 miles per day, so in fact they'd be ideal for the majority.

Quote
but charging points and time taken to charge will be the biggest issue.

I'd be willing it bet it won't be long before supermarkets provide in-bay charging points for free, which would be ideal since these cars only need 30 minutes charge to restore them to 90% capacity.

Quote
The batteries which will have to be replaced every three years will wipe out the second hand market of such vehicles.

That seems the biggest issue, although the manufacturers are saying five years not three, and they're all looking for ways to avoid that terminal cost.
 
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: brumbob on March 26, 2011, 01:35:47 pm
great, have to drive to the supermarket everyday to charge it up  :P

until every parking space has a means to charge a car, I maintain electric cars are useless for the majority of people
imagine row upon row of terrace houses with cables stretching over the pavement  :rage:

Plug in electric cars move problems rather than solving them.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2011, 01:50:48 pm
They have employed electricity hook up posts in car parks and other areas of the community in Sweden for many years.  These have been for supplying the engine heaters in cars to combat the very cold climate.

No reason why similar system could not apply to charging units.  Plenty of info on the Internet.    D)
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: brumbob on March 26, 2011, 02:07:00 pm
You've walked around Llandudno, every road is chock-a-block with parked cars, can you imagine the cost and upheaval to put charging points to each of these spaces.
I suppose the youth of the future will have great fun unplugging cars so the owners find they aren't charged in the morning. :laugh:
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2011, 03:33:31 pm
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imagine row upon row of terrace houses with cables stretching over the pavement

Yep;  terraced are certainly going to be a major issue.  But streets are already wired for lamps and things so a bit of lateral thinking could see a lot of kerbside charging points and petrol is fast going to become a scarce commodity, so with the simple reality that the UK has signed to reduce emissions to a level that can only be achieved by getting rid of a lot of petrol engined vehicles I suspect that electric will be the future.

The big problems will be the long distance drivers: the motorway service stations might have to start offering battery swapping options to keep the holidaying motorist on the road.  But there again, the last time we drove to France, through the Midlands, the M25 and then the chunnel we all agreed that had there been a train-car conveyor available we'd have taken that.  The ideal solution would be for designated train stations to operate car trains ,rather like the current Eurostar does.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: brumbob on March 26, 2011, 03:59:59 pm
Electric will most likely be the future Ian, once all the guinea pigs have brought the price down and battery proficiency has improved.
At the moment a £7000 car with an electric motor costs up to £25,000 even with government subsidy, so it's a no-brainer for most people.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Trojan on March 26, 2011, 08:01:30 pm
If I had an electric car I would get myself a wind generator for my back garden, presuming such an arrangement is feasible.   ZXZ

There's a tower block in Islington with a wind-turbine on it's roof.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Yorkie on March 26, 2011, 08:17:01 pm
The 12 metre high structure generates power for the lifts, lights, water pumps, CCTV and concierge area of Kestrel House, City Road, EC1.  And it is not the only one, the local council is actively promoting this "green" initiative.    Z**
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: DaveR on March 27, 2011, 07:21:43 pm
great, have to drive to the supermarket everyday to charge it up  :P

until every parking space has a means to charge a car, I maintain electric cars are useless for the majority of people
imagine row upon row of terrace houses with cables stretching over the pavement  :rage:

Plug in electric cars move problems rather than solving them.
Scientists at the University of Illinois have just developed a Lithium battery that can reach 90% charged in just 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Yorkie on March 27, 2011, 07:37:50 pm
At £159.99 each I think I can managhe a few more years before I need one!    ¢¢##
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: hollins on April 03, 2011, 08:52:06 pm
 $thanx$

Has anyone in the area successfully pleaded not guilty to a speeding fine?
The reason I am asking for advice is because I received a letter last week which says I was doing 35 mph in a 30 limit. This was on Llanfair TH road in Abergele. I was going up the hill and could see the van from a long way. I was sure I was doing 28mph.
Does anyone know if it is possible to ask for the evidence before commiting to a court hearing?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Yorkie on April 03, 2011, 09:05:42 pm
If you are a Member of a Motoring organisation such as AA or RAC and have legal cover speak to them.

If not then use a solicitor or do it yourself.  Plenty of advice available on the Internet, or the CAB may be able to help.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: DaveR on April 03, 2011, 09:17:13 pm
Welcome to the Forum, Hollins.  :)

This link has got some info on it:
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/WhatToDoIfYouGetASpeedingTicket.html (http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/WhatToDoIfYouGetASpeedingTicket.html)
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Fester on April 03, 2011, 09:35:35 pm
Hi Hollins....  I found this .. dunno if its any use.

http://www.drivingexpert.co.uk/can-i-appeal-speeding-ticket.html (http://www.drivingexpert.co.uk/can-i-appeal-speeding-ticket.html)
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: hollins on April 03, 2011, 10:04:09 pm
 $thanx$
Thank you. What a marvellous quick response!
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Fester on April 03, 2011, 10:55:33 pm
We are like that on here !
Title: Traffic Lights on Conwy Rd, Llandudno
Post by: dogstail on June 02, 2011, 12:23:18 am
Why do these traffic lights as you are waiting to turn into the retail park coming from the links roundabout way change from green straight away only allowing two cars to go through, and then you are sat there ages waiting for the red to change, none of the other lights are the same only these ones!
Title: Re: Traffic Lights on Conwy Rd, Llandudno
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 02, 2011, 08:20:12 am
FYI, this was raised by another forum user last year.

:rage:  Still not sure why the traffic lights exiting Mostyn Champneys only go on green for eight seconds causing long hold ups and exiting the other end is just as bad.  :rage:
Title: Re: Traffic Lights on Conwy Rd, Llandudno
Post by: dogstail on June 02, 2011, 11:35:23 am
ah thank you!! will try and find the topic and have a look
Title: Re: Traffic Lights on Conwy Rd, Llandudno
Post by: Llechwedd on June 02, 2011, 12:58:20 pm
I asked a bus driver this year as we waited fot the lights to change.  he said that Asda paid for the lights and that therefore they are weighted for Asda customers and against Conwy Road traffic. If this is the case it's terrible as there are huge snarl ups there.
Title: Re: Traffic Lights on Conwy Rd, Llandudno
Post by: wrex on June 05, 2011, 08:39:34 pm
 ;)This link proves that there is little interest in the problem,unless its the locals in Tudno ward that are the only people effected as if you live along or just off Maesdu rd it is us who have to use the Links roundabout 6 times a day,if you live in Penrhyn Bay or Craig y donits not such a problem as they have no need to use this road. D)One of Tudno wards County Clls does not drive so takes littleinterest in hold ups.
Title: Re: Traffic Lights on Conwy Rd, Llandudno
Post by: Yorkie on June 05, 2011, 08:52:22 pm
Wrex - if you can find a key that fits the control box you can change the sequence yourself.   The old Police Box (tardis) key that also fitted AA and RAC Boxes used to fit as we (Police) had to turn the lights off for the passage of Royal Personages!    That was a few years ago so . . . . . . . . .  ££$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on June 06, 2011, 08:52:57 am
Could this be the solution to Llandudno's parking issues?
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http://hpritam.posterous.com/so-you-think-you-can-park-a-car (http://hpritam.posterous.com/so-you-think-you-can-park-a-car)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: bigbadhenry on June 06, 2011, 11:55:15 am
Mostyn Champneys Retail Park is having cameras and timed parking. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 06, 2011, 12:52:57 pm
It is very likely to affect families thinking of going to the Superbowl followed by a meal at McDonald’s if parking becomes limited to a maximum of two hours.

There again it will help eliminate ice cream vendors and overnight motorhomes from parking long hours and spending very little, if anything at all.

I wonder who will police it?
Title: Re: traffic lights
Post by: wrex on June 07, 2011, 08:05:28 am
 :( Not sure where the Mostyn Champneys traffic lights link has gone but i did e-mail a Colin Gilligan who is based in Broughton retail park but is responsable for Llandudno,he says he has spoken to highways and they see no problem whatsoever with the traffic lights,they obviously never been there when its busy.On the subject of xmas lights he said it is not policy to light up retail parks,i did ask him then why is Broughton the exception then,i will let you know his answer too that. :roll:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 07, 2011, 09:48:00 am
It is very likely to affect families thinking of going to the Superbowl followed by a meal at McDonald’s if parking becomes limited to a maximum of two hours.
. . . . . .etc
I wonder who will police it?

Probably a private firm.  In Tesco they have APNR Cameras that record every vehicle in and out of the car park.  If you overstay and your vehicle is not registered as an employee on the data base, a Fixed Penalty Notice arrives through the post.  These are rigorously followed up if not paid.  (ASDA have attendants.)
This system is operated by many private car parks, and just in case one thinks otherwise, it is perfectly legal and recovery of moneys due has the normal force of law behind it! 

Just because there are no attendants in view does not mean there is no enforcement!    :D
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on June 07, 2011, 09:53:17 pm
 :-[Well this is going to make quite a difference to Llandudno,there are a lot of people park at the side of Iceland and leave their cars there allday while shopping in town.Over the extravaganza weekend B+Q had somebody with a gun at their entrance clocking every car reg.
















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Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on June 07, 2011, 10:30:04 pm
As a result of the new parking restrictions on Mostyn Champneys, it is quite possible motor vehicles will begin to park all along both sides of the road leading from Mostyn Broadway to Conway Road.

Remember where you heard it first.   
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 08, 2011, 08:01:34 am
The whole problem lies in the fact that the retail park should have been put "out of town".   The Road arrangements were brought up in the Council during the consultancy period and the developers produced a 400 page document to prove there would be no traffic problems.    If it takes 400 pages to indicate a negative effect on the town's transport arrangements someone was pulling the wool over everybody's eyes.

The problems were foreseen but, as per normal, norhing was done.   And it is too late now unless the lot is pulled down.  :rage:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on June 08, 2011, 11:03:14 pm
 :o Sorry to disagree Yorkie, i think the retail park has been good for Llandudno bringing in such a different range of shops and what is unique about Llandudno  is you can WALK from our retail park into Upper Mostyn St with shops all the way,unfortunatley now we are about to lose the free parking over 2 hours things will change,as for the pathetic traffic lights and exits at Mostyn Champneys and the Asda setup ,that;s down too CCBC.All problems are on Ronnie and Philips ward so lets see some action. ZXZ
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 09, 2011, 10:53:37 am
Come, come Wrex.  Is it not you who is always complaining about the traffic getting out of Mostyn Champneys onto Conway Road.    This is because the have put the exit of a large Retail Park joining a major commuter road!

You might be able to WALk from the Town centre to the Retail park  to shop.  But this has become essential as we have seen many of our old established shops driven out of business.  Our Main street is now left with pound shops, tat shops, cafes and charity shops by the dozen.   Interspersed with Banks and other financial institutions, it is now a main street without any character or substance.   Very soon I expect to see the tumbleweed rolling along the street.   It can only get worse.

As for traffic and parking - space is at a premium now without further controls being put on what space there is and we have yet to see the full effects.  Be prepared for total gridlock, especially on Bank Holidays.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on June 09, 2011, 09:48:36 pm
 :( Sorry again Yorkie but every town has empty shops at the moment so its hard to tell,as for Llandudno;s empty shops being blamed on Parc Llandudno,of course its taken a few away but it has certainly made Llandudno a better place to shop for most,oap;s may not agree but this town is for all ages. Z**
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on June 09, 2011, 09:52:10 pm
In an ideal world, what would happen is that the chain stores would all move down to Parc Llandudno and rents would fall sufficiently along Mostyn Street to allow all the family businesses back in.  ££$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Pendragon on June 09, 2011, 10:34:19 pm
Y'know maybe I'm wrong but I was in Caernarfon this week and was struck by the amount of local independent shops up and down the high street all busy too.  Bangor has shops closing left right and center and will probably suffer even more when the new Asda is built on our beloved Farrar Road, out of town shopping surely contributes toward shop closures?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 10:23:35 am
Quote
out of town shopping surely contributes toward shop closures?

It probably does, but I suspect the internet does it even more.  Local shops have to adapt;  they have to find a niche which the larger shops can't or won't fill. The main difference between the chain store and the local person is almost inevitably the levels of personal service and knowledge, hence the proliferation of cafes, hairdressing salons and restaurants.

I've long thought that introducing themed shops could work: Victorian themed sweetshops, for instance, with sweets in giant jars as in yesteryear and selling a range of '50s tat - even quality tat for that matter. That would attract visitors, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 10, 2011, 10:48:13 am
Selling sweets from big jars?   You'd have the 'elf and safety boys on your tail!    ;D
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on June 10, 2011, 11:06:49 am
Quote
Selling sweets from big jars?   You'd have the 'elf and safety boys on your tail!

 :o

Actually, there are two ways of doing it, and the most usual is using pre-wrapped sweets in the jars. But I agree that insurance and H & S would be the biggest concerns. When we were last in the States, there was a Victorian-style shop selling Coca Cola for 5 cents a bottle;  not sure how they managed that...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on June 10, 2011, 11:14:33 am
Grumpys in Upper Mostyn Street is such a sweet shop:

https://www.grumpyssweetshop.com/ (https://www.grumpyssweetshop.com/)

"Take a trip down memory lane with our fantastic retro and old-fashioned sweets! We have an amazing selection of traditional favourites as well as a plentiful selection of modern sweets!

Every product listed has been chosen by Grumpy himself, and because of this we can be confident that you will be completely satisfied with your purchase!

Our shop stocks over 300 variations of sweets that you're bound to remember from your youth, and we're increasing our product range every day. "
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Pendragon on June 10, 2011, 11:22:13 am
They are quite good on prices too for Llandudno, when I was in the club I used to buy the rhubarb and custards.  The sweet shop in Conwy on Berry Street is a good one as well.  The shop across from the Mail Coach however is a rip off  :o
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: dwsi on June 10, 2011, 12:07:30 pm
two of my friends have local shops and have opened internet stores. If it wasn't for the internet store the physical shop would've had to close a long while ago.

 :rage:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Trojan on June 11, 2011, 02:08:53 am
It probably does, but I suspect the internet does it even more.  Local shops have to adapt;  they have to find a niche which the larger shops can't or won't fill. The main difference between the chain store and the local person is almost inevitably the levels of personal service and knowledge, hence the proliferation of cafes, hairdressing salons and restaurants.


Additionally, you can't get a cup of tea, get your hair cut, or buy a steak dinner via the internet.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on June 11, 2011, 08:24:10 am
There are also certain types of high street retail that are slightly more resilient to the advance of internet retail - clothes, for example, where women like to try the outfit on before buying it.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on June 11, 2011, 08:38:38 am
Quote
two of my friends have local shops and have opened internet stores. If it wasn't for the internet store the physical shop would've had to close a long while ago.

That isn't a new phenomenon, either; in the late '80s, a model train business moved into premises on the now defunct Platform 3 in Colwyn Bay (our kids were little, I loved trains, and it was nearing Christmas, so I was there quite a bit!) and they also ran a very bust mail-order business.  Given how sparse the interest seemed every time I popped in, it was certainly the mail order side keeping them afloat.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on June 13, 2011, 09:04:17 pm
 :D  Then there is the traffic lights at Mostyn Champneys,they are terrible. WWW
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 14, 2011, 06:54:43 am
:D  Then there is the traffic lights at Mostyn Champneys,they are terrible. WWW

They're RED, AMBER and GREEN just like any other traffic lights, do you want some special colours?    L0L
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Trojan on June 14, 2011, 07:01:36 am
:D  Then there is the traffic lights at Mostyn Champneys,they are terrible. WWW

They're RED, AMBER and GREEN just like any other traffic lights, do you want some special colours?    L0L

I think the timers have been set in Cardiff to annoy Wrex as the A470 runs the length of Wales from Llandudno to Cardiff.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on June 14, 2011, 11:11:40 pm
 :( It may run from Llandudno but it is known as the Glan Conwy to Cardiff road we don;t even get any recognition there.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Trojan on June 14, 2011, 11:51:06 pm
:( It may run from Llandudno but it is known as the Glan Conwy to Cardiff road we don;t even get any recognition there.

 :'(
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on June 15, 2011, 09:54:45 am
Perhaps they have yet to catch up with the fact that the A470 was extended several years ago from Glan Conwy (corner) to Llandudno!!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on June 28, 2011, 07:01:51 am
 :( I was e-mailed by Chris Patori yesterday from CCBC re -Mostyn Champneys traffic lights and he informs me that they watched the exit last Friday and Saturday lunch time and saw no problem,also they met Llandudno development committee and they had no problem with the exits either.So am i the only one who gets caught in ques trying to exit Mostyn Champneys,please let me know. Z**
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on June 28, 2011, 08:45:47 am
Tell him to inspect at 4.00 in the afternoon.   Lunch time is probably the quietist part in the day!   :D
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on June 29, 2011, 04:10:15 pm
I recieved an email fom Colin Gilligan, the park manager, yesterday,
"Can you please advise some more details of what you state is a 'disgrace'. Is this to do with entering or exiting or both? Also is it to do with the time sequencing of the lights or are you referring to something else?
We referred this matter to Highways Department of Conwy Borough Council last year and got the following comments in the reply:
Since receiving your e-mail we have undertaken two observational surveys around 13.00 last Friday and Saturday. At the time of the surveys no problems were evident.
I also mentioned your comments at this week's meeting of the Llandudno Development Partnership Transport sub-group and all present felt that there is not a problem.
 
A follow up email had the following response:
We have no operational need to call our signals contractor over to Llandudno at present and cannot justify the expense of a special visit to view an alleged problem which might not be present when he is on site.
If you could provide the information requested below ie specific instances of when the queuing is believed to be excessive (ie days/dates/times), then we could time an inspection accordingly.
I have been to site several times since we spoke last and I have not witnessed any excessive queuing at the Charlotte Road right turn. I believe one of your complainants has suggested that traffic has been stationary on Conwy Rd (southbound) and Charlotte Rd with nothing apparently happening. This can occur if a pedestrian has pushed a crossing button, but has crossed in a gap in traffic before the pedestrian phase turns green. There is no controller that I am aware of that can compensate for this.
Finally we had the response below to a further follow up email:
I acknowledge that you did complain earlier in the year about the Charlotte Road signals, but that related to the inbound queue from the Links Roundabout direction. I personally visited site on consecutive Saturdays after you raised the issue but found no evidence of that stream being unduly delayed.

Coincidentally I also attended a meeting of the Llandudno Development Partnership this week and a quite contrary view was presented, namely that the major car parks were all working rather well at present. Clearly there will be certain peak times such as half term and Christmas when the signals simply can't handle an overload of traffic and the retail parks become a victim of their own success. With the present road layout and hardware we simply cannot guarantee delay free exit from the retail park on a 24/7 basis.

 

It is clear that from the above emails we have been unable to convince the local authority of our percepption and firm belief that there is a problem with the sequencing of the traffic lights.

I have copied in Chris Pastori of Conwy County Council in this email."

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on June 30, 2011, 10:34:47 pm
 :o Not really shocked just disgusted,CCBC take 2000,000 pounds of Parc Llandudno,they screw visitors to Llandudno by charging to park on the prom, then decide they will not bother with the electric car park signs,WHOOPEE for CCBC,TAKE TAKE TAKE from Llandudno with nowt in return. :rage:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on July 01, 2011, 09:05:12 am
I've just got details of a very nice house in the Valley of the Racehorse which has given me the urge to consider moving from this great and wonderful resort back to the Country of my birth.   :D

Then I for one, and her indoors for two, won't have to put up with the constant failings of the Local and County Councils any more.    :rage:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2011, 10:37:20 am
I have to say, in spite of the various council's failings, this is still a fabulous place to live  8) 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on July 20, 2011, 02:14:10 pm
That isn't a new phenomenon, either; in the late '80s, a model train business moved into premises on the now defunct Platform 3 in Colwyn Bay (our kids were little, I loved trains, and it was nearing Christmas, so I was there quite a bit!) and they also ran a very bust mail-order business.  Given how sparse the interest seemed every time I popped in, it was certainly the mail order side keeping them afloat.
Photo of the train that was displayed at Platform 3:
clwyd - preserved 0-6-0t within colwyn bay station early 93 JL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmightycat/5943605770/#)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 20, 2011, 06:15:18 pm
Photo of the train that was displayed at Platform 3:
clwyd - preserved 0-6-0t within colwyn bay station early 93 JL (http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnmightycat/5943605770/#)
[/quote]

I've enjoyed many  great meals in those carriages on Platform 3.      :)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on July 29, 2011, 09:49:23 pm
 :D A Mr Colin Pastori from highways has agreed to meet me outside Smyths toyshop on Sat 26 Nov to see how bad it is to get out of Mostyn Champneys when busy and to show him the dangers on the Mostyn Broadway exit,you watch it will be dead that day and i will look a right idiot. :-[
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on July 29, 2011, 09:50:11 pm
 $walesflag$ 4 pm  D)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on July 29, 2011, 10:27:48 pm
That's a long time hence Wrex. Could he not manage a Saturday before then? He must have a full diary!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Fester on July 30, 2011, 12:33:01 am
That's a long time hence Wrex. Could he not manage a Saturday before then? He must have a full diary!

It should be very busy with Xmas shoppers at that time of year... so he may well see a great example of how bad it is, and it really is bad sometimes.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on July 30, 2011, 07:53:48 am
:D A Mr Colin Pastori from highways has agreed to meet me outside Smyths toyshop on Sat 26 Nov to see how bad it is to get out of Mostyn Champneys when busy and to show him the dangers on the Mostyn Broadway exit,you watch it will be dead that day and i will look a right idiot. :-[

I've diarised the date!   About 4.00 p.m. is a good time.

Why on Earth don't they install a time lapse camera for a couple of days, that would give them all the information they need?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on July 30, 2011, 10:51:47 am
   :-[ Sorry his name is Chris not Colin,and i did request a November date,unfortunately there may be a few empty units with the rumours about Comet,Iceland and Rosbys so who knows how busy it will be. ZXZ
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on July 30, 2011, 11:54:32 am
Could always get the local (or not so local) car clubs to drive round and round the block.  Sort of fabricating the evidence like wot some official organisations do!   ZXZ
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 01, 2011, 11:11:42 pm
We enjoyed the opening night of the musical 'Dreamboats and Petticoats' at Venue Cymru this evening and on the way out at 10pm I could not help notice several cars were parked on the road in Champneys Retail Park from Mostyn Broadway over to Conway Road.

It is the first time I have seen it but it reminded me of my prediction last December.

I wonder if this practice will begin to catch on in daylight hours for workers in Llandudno with further parking restrictions in the pipeline for the more popular streets.

As a result of the new parking restrictions on Mostyn Champneys, it is quite possible motor vehicles will begin to park all along both sides of the road leading from Mostyn Broadway to Conway Road.

Remember where you heard it first.   

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on August 02, 2011, 08:17:29 am
Charlotte Road, I think it is.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 02, 2011, 10:44:34 am
I have never seen cars parked along Charlotte Road before so I assume this is a direct result of the new parking restriction on Mostyn Champneys which doesn’t allow theatre goers any longer than 2 hours free parking.

I don’t blame the motorists all facing Conway Road for a smooth getaway later.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on August 02, 2011, 04:24:33 pm
Your right Bri ,there is one parked on the road opposite the old Halfords this afternoon and they have pushed their mirror in.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: dogstail on August 06, 2011, 09:52:47 pm
I have never seen cars parked along Charlotte Road before so I assume this is a direct result of the new parking restriction on Mostyn Champneys which doesn’t allow theatre goers any longer than 2 hours free parking.

I don’t blame the motorists all facing Conway Road for a smooth getaway later.

no they do park there if theres ever anythig on at the theatre and at xmas time

Title: Its Back !
Post by: Fester on September 29, 2011, 10:57:01 pm
Well, for some strange reason, the SAME 4 X 4 vehicle is back up Snowdon... I think someone else bought it recently though,

See here...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15108712)
Title: Re: Its Back !
Post by: Nemesis on September 30, 2011, 08:25:40 am
This will end up becoming a challenge to see who can get what up there.
Title: Re: Its Back !
Post by: Pendragon on September 30, 2011, 08:58:51 am
What idiots..............people really don't understand the dangers do they.  Prosecute them and hand them the bill for the recovery charges.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: DaveR on September 30, 2011, 08:33:48 pm
...and crush the car so they can't do it again.  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on November 22, 2011, 09:17:36 pm
 ZXZ Meeting Mr Pastori this saturday at Mostyn Champneys 4 30  i pray it is busy or i might look a wally. _))*
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Pendragon on November 22, 2011, 11:20:27 pm
Good luck Wrex  $good$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on November 23, 2011, 08:55:05 am
ZXZ Meeting Mr Pastori this saturday at Mostyn Champneys 4 30  i pray it is busy or i might look a wally. _))*

Would you like some moral support?   ZXZ
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on November 27, 2011, 02:45:58 pm
Sorry Yorkie only just read your message,Mr Pastori did a survey last August bank holiday and the average time to clear Charlotte rd was four minutes,unfortunately they only counted the cars on the road and NOT the time it took cars to reach the MINI-ROUNDABOUT,so the time it takes you to get off the actual car park was not taken into account they only timed each car when it was on Charlotte road.It was all down to money, Ihave come to the conclusion that it is a massive waste of time complaining to councillors or officers because they don;t give a damn.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on November 27, 2011, 04:31:05 pm
I think he needs bringing into order.  The length of road from the mini roundabout is so short that it will always work in his favour.  Let me put my thinking cap on for a day or so!   ;)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on November 27, 2011, 05:01:46 pm
Wrex - I think we will have to go back to the original traffic management consutation doument that the Council was presented with prior to the new ASDA development going ahead.   I did complain at the time and suggested that the arrangements proposed would have problems.    The prioity then, and seemingly still now, is that priority is given to the traffic leaving ASDA, which coupled with the other Conwy Road traffic, neccesitates having a long phase on Conwy Road to prevent back up to the ASDA exit. 

Maybe you would like to request a copy of the Traffic Management document from CCBC?    ZXZ
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: dwsi on December 05, 2011, 07:44:28 pm
BBC News - Every death on every road in Great Britain 1999-2010 http://bbc.in/t7cWP4 (http://bbc.in/t7cWP4)
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: DaveR on December 16, 2011, 09:22:48 am
The A55 is currently at a standstill apparently once you get past Abergele, due to snow and ice. Gets worse as you get closer to Chester.

Traffic Cam at A55 Waen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/travelnews/northeastwales/trafficcameras/trafficwalesnorth/trafficwalesnorthCameraN0213/?epoch=1324027858&enabled=1&asset=CameraN0213 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/travelnews/northeastwales/trafficcameras/trafficwalesnorth/trafficwalesnorthCameraN0213/?epoch=1324027858&enabled=1&asset=CameraN0213)
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: DaveR on December 16, 2011, 10:23:33 am
A55 Denbighshire - A55 Rhuallt Hill closed, stationary traffic, hazardous driving conditions and long delays eastbound between J27, A525 (St Asaph) and J29, Pant-Y-Dulath, because of snow. Police directing traffic. Diversion in operation - traffic is being directed onto the A525 towards Ruthlan.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: DaveR on December 16, 2011, 10:51:47 am
Quite a few problems at Rhuallt Hill, judging by the Traffic Cam:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/travelnews/northeastwales/trafficcameras/trafficwalesnorth/trafficwalesnorthCameraN0214/?epoch=1324032359&enabled=1&asset=CameraN0214.jpg (http://www.bbc.co.uk/travelnews/northeastwales/trafficcameras/trafficwalesnorth/trafficwalesnorthCameraN0214/?epoch=1324032359&enabled=1&asset=CameraN0214.jpg)
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 16, 2011, 11:45:54 am
Sadly, the camera is disabled.

I am leaving at Noon to travel up the M6 to bring our youngest home for Xmas.

I guess the coast road and over the new Dee Bridge it will have to be then.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Nemesis on December 16, 2011, 01:16:53 pm
Some ladies, talking to me in M&S this a.m. had set off for Chester and turned back 'cos of the weather only to find that the other roads around the Rhyl area were like skating rinks.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Bellringer on December 16, 2011, 03:50:28 pm
Some friends of ours left first thing this morning to attend a funeral at 11 near Rockferry, needless to say they were late. They are currently somewhere on their way back to Conwy.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: DaveR on December 16, 2011, 04:43:08 pm
Some people were stuck for nearly 3 hours on the A55 between St. Asaph and Rhuallt Hill.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on December 16, 2011, 07:02:48 pm
Fortunately for me I saw the queue just in front of me around 12.30pm and immediately turned off at St Asaph and took the back road to Mold and it was fine except for sleet, snow and lighting.

There were long queues on the M56 travelling east but later the sun was shining on the M6 travelling north.

However, there were long queues on the other side - M6 South from Jct 22.

Coming back the queues were from Jct 23 apparently down to Sandbach.

I cannot understand why the motorway signs indicated there was congestion between Jcts 20 -19 when the reality was from Jct 23 – Jct 17.

I found it frustrating when I needed to get off the M6 at Jct 20 to join the M56 West.

The A55 east was clear around an hour ago.

All in all I took nearly six hours when normally the journey there and back would be only four hours.
Title: Re: Driving...in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 20, 2011, 06:26:40 pm
I was in a car driving down the A470  on Saturday, we were heading for Betws Y Coed when the traffic stopped at a bend near Maenan.
We could see a Fire Engine, Ambulance and Police car on the scene and what looked like a car in a field.  It looked quite bad so we  turned back and went to Betws via Tal Y Cafn bridge.
I've seen nothing at all on the news about the accident so I hope that no one has been seriously hurt as a result of the crash.
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: frankj3 on January 16, 2012, 09:14:01 pm
have you never done anything wrong in your life
Title: Re: The latest road tragedy
Post by: Pendragon on January 16, 2012, 09:19:45 pm
have you never done anything wrong in your life
Any one who tried to answer that question with No would be a liar.
Title: A55 disruption
Post by: martin on January 24, 2012, 07:19:40 pm
My wife is travelling to Liverpool later this week setting off about 08.30 hrs.  Can anyone tell me if the recent disruption during the rush hour caused by the maintenance work being done to the lamp posts has finished?  Thanks in anticipation.
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: DaveR on January 24, 2012, 07:34:09 pm
Still ongoing, according to this website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/travelnews/northwestwales/roads/planned/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/travelnews/northwestwales/roads/planned/)

A55 Conwy, both ways between J19 A547 Conway Road and J20 A547 Brompton Avenue
One lane closed on A55 in both directions between J19, A547 (Black Cat) and J20, A547 (Colwyn Bay), because of roadworks.
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: martin on January 24, 2012, 07:56:57 pm
Thanks Dave, appreciate the information. $good$
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: suepp on January 24, 2012, 08:15:32 pm
There was a crash on the west bound side between Colwyn Bay and Llandudno Junction this morning which added an hour to my journey to Bangor  today, I understand three lorries were involved but have not seen or heard anything about it on the news, it happened very near to the coned off section :(
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: wrex on March 15, 2012, 07:39:23 am
I am glad to see the roads surroundingParc Llandudno are about to be re-surfaced they where in dire need,
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 15, 2012, 09:20:39 am
Time something was done with the holes in the roundabout between Chapel Street and Arvon Ave, before there is a nasty accident.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on March 15, 2012, 06:28:20 pm
In the last few days I have done a lot of driving around North Wales sorting out Car Club Driving Routes and have been astonished about the amount of resurfacing that has been done and is still on going.  There are large areas on many major and minor roads that have been completely resurfaced (not patched) as far away as Dolgellau, Morfa Nevin, Bala and the Ruthin area to name but a few.  They are laying the "silent" running black top which is great to drive on giving very little road and tyre noise.

Many of the roads I have seen resurfaced are B Class roads and ones that have very little traffic (which is why we use them!).   ;)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: dwsi on April 01, 2012, 11:41:19 am
A55 toll road? http://bit.ly/HJcPmm (http://bit.ly/HJcPmm)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Paddy on April 01, 2012, 12:04:40 pm
A55 toll road? http://bit.ly/HJcPmm (http://bit.ly/HJcPmm)
Dwsi, check your calendar!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: JasonW on April 01, 2012, 12:12:11 pm
A55 toll road? http://bit.ly/HJcPmm (http://bit.ly/HJcPmm)
Dwsi, check your calendar!
Sorry I couldn't resist
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: dwsi on April 01, 2012, 12:31:33 pm
A55 toll road? http://bit.ly/HJcPmm (http://bit.ly/HJcPmm)
Dwsi, check your calendar!
Sorry I couldn't resist

and i couldn't resist repeating it  _))*
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: JasonW on April 01, 2012, 01:34:45 pm
 $good$ _))*
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2012, 05:25:13 pm
"a55 westbound traffic under signal going into Conwy tunnel, backed up to Black Cat...water 10 inches deep at Aber!"
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on July 06, 2012, 05:41:16 pm
And the traffic coming off the A55 as a result is "clogging up" Conwy, so rather slow going!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2012, 08:20:14 pm
Photo of the flooding at Aber:
https://twitter.com/srgow/status/221270404134739970/photo/1
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on July 06, 2012, 08:33:18 pm
All seems to be running on the A55 and through the Conwy tunnel OK now, and surrounding roads in Deganwy and Conwy itself
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Ian on July 07, 2012, 01:23:26 pm
A55 closed westbound because of animal incursions.
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: DaveR on November 24, 2013, 08:06:42 pm
It always amazes me that large sections of the A55 are completely unlit at night. We can apparently afford to have street lighting along little used side roads, but not along the main highway through North Wales?
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Fester on November 24, 2013, 08:17:39 pm
Indeed Dave, it does get pretty hairy driving on certain parts of the A55 in the hours of darkness.

When the weather is bad, it's nigh on terrifying....... and try overtaking a truck with water flying up the windscreen at you!
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Yorkie on November 24, 2013, 08:21:52 pm
Just have to drive within your capabilities, weather conditions and traffic at the time!   There are thousands of miles on unlit road, especially Motorways, and to light every mile would cost the taxpayer dearly.    ZXZ
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 24, 2013, 09:26:42 pm
Indeed Dave, it does get pretty hairy driving on certain parts of the A55 in the hours of darkness.

I find turning the headlamps on helps no end!  :twoface:  ;D
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Linda on November 25, 2013, 12:37:33 am
Indeed Dave, it does get pretty hairy driving on certain parts of the A55 in the hours of darkness.

I find turning the headlamps on helps no end!  :twoface:  ;D

 _))* _))* love it!
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2013, 08:05:11 am
 _))* _))* _))*

Quote
It always amazes me that large sections of the A55 are completely unlit at night. We can apparently afford to have street lighting along little used side roads, but not along the main highway through North Wales?

Street lights have more functions than road lights, though; in towns and villages street lights are there to help pedestrians and to reduce crime. On Motorway-type roads their only function is to help motorists.
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2013, 08:20:33 am
That doesn't really explain why lighting is provided on some sections of the A55 and not others though?
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Yorkie on November 25, 2013, 11:13:00 am
That doesn't really explain why lighting is provided on some sections of the A55 and not others though?

Here are the why's and wherefore's including the Relevent Codes of Practice.

www.ukroads.org/ukroadlighting/scripts/standards.asp (http://www.ukroads.org/ukroadlighting/scripts/standards.asp)

BS 5489:1:2003   Code of practice for the design of road lighting. Lighting of ...
 ££$
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Ian on November 25, 2013, 12:09:00 pm
Quote
That doesn't really explain why lighting is provided on some sections of the A55 and not others though?

No, it doesn't.  Always wondered about that...
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Yorkie on November 25, 2013, 12:26:52 pm
Quote
That doesn't really explain why lighting is provided on some sections of the A55 and not others though?

No, it doesn't.  Always wondered about that...

I think you will find that lighting is mainly found near to junctions and slip roads.  Lighting on other sections is due to the classification of that stretch of road.  Don't ask me how they differentiate between classifications!  That's probably "classified information".
    ZXZ
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: DaveR on November 25, 2013, 01:28:44 pm
The section between Llanddulas - Colwyn Bay is a good example of section that is lit, but has no junctions or special features that require it to be so.

When on the M6 the other week, I noticed a sign saying that the lighting was switched off during certain hours to save money. I thought to myself that if we can't afford to have the lights on along one of the busiest motorways in the UK, then we really are doomed...
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: norman08 on November 25, 2013, 01:55:31 pm
why this country can,t have solar panels on the posts like some countries iv,e been to , too easy,  passing st asaph park so many lights they dazzle you .
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: Mikethewatch on November 25, 2013, 04:07:12 pm
Solar panels and batteries would need to be massive to power effective street lights
Title: Re: A55 disruption
Post by: DaveR on November 26, 2013, 11:22:22 am
Solar panels and batteries would need to be massive to power effective street lights
If you look on the Brompton Ave roundabout in Rhos, you'll see the arrow signs on the roundabout all have solar powered lights fitted now, albeit a bit bulky looking ones!

Advances in both battery & lighting technology (primarily the switch to low power LED lighting) have made solar lights viable at long last:
http://www.solar-candela.co.uk/ (http://www.solar-candela.co.uk/)

They have even been installed in Porthmadog!
http://www.solar-candela.co.uk/news_more.asp?newsID=11&page=1 (http://www.solar-candela.co.uk/news_more.asp?newsID=11&page=1)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 14, 2014, 07:05:35 am
Having spent millions on the A470 through Glan Conwy earlier this year, relaying it completely and causing horrendous queues in the process, the road is now being dug up again in several bits in Glan Conwy, once again causing massive queues when visitors are trying to return to Llandudno in the evening. 

It's been going on for three weeks, now.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on August 14, 2014, 09:11:09 am
Seems to be a thing that after a road is resurfaced they have to dig (parts of) it up again!

The road I live in (a cul-de-sac) was resurfaced with poor quality tar (they actually called it slurry, which conjures up an impression) just over 12 months ago - when we complained about the shoddy work the local councillor told us that it was expected to last three years - we've lived here over 30 years and the road had never been touched before, and there was very little wrong with it!  The new surface barely lasted a couple of days before breaking up.

Since then every one of the utility companies has had a go digging part of it, some more than once!  So we now have a poor surface with occasional smaller areas of good tarmac!!!

The road past the Welsh Assembly building was re-surfaced the same time as our road (not far away), but the new surface there is not the same as the stuff they gave us - strange that!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on August 14, 2014, 09:18:44 am
Having spent millions on the A470 through Glan Conwy earlier this year, relaying it completely and causing horrendous queues in the process, the road is now being dug up again in several bits in Glan Conwy, once again causing massive queues when visitors are trying to return to Llandudno in the evening. 

It's been going on for three weeks, now.


I drive through Glan Conwy quite often & this work was due to a burst of some sort as the road was slowly rising in the area of the roadworks. I can understand you complaining if the work was pre-planned as happened in the past with Mostyn Street but it is unfair to criticise emergency repairs unless it was damage caused by the resurfacing, which we will probably never know.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 14, 2014, 09:45:14 am
The interesting thing is that the newly repaired section of road - which they now appear to have finished - has a distinct dip in it,  which is extremely noticeable as you drive across it. I wondered if it had been an emergency but that still doesn't get round the fact that it's not been well re-re-surfaced.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on August 15, 2014, 10:10:36 am
Seems to be a thing that after a road is resurfaced they have to dig (parts of) it up again!

The road I live in (a cul-de-sac) was resurfaced with poor quality tar (they actually called it slurry, which conjures up an impression) just over 12 months ago - when we complained about the shoddy work the local councillor told us that it was expected to last three years - we've lived here over 30 years and the road had never been touched before, and there was very little wrong with it!  The new surface barely lasted a couple of days before breaking up.

Since then every one of the utility companies has had a go digging part of it, some more than once!  So we now have a poor surface with occasional smaller areas of good tarmac!!!

The road past the Welsh Assembly building was re-surfaced the same time as our road (not far away), but the new surface there is not the same as the stuff they gave us - strange that!
Slurry sealing is the cheapest possible way to resurface a road or pavement. On pavements, its not too bad, but its not really suitable for roads. It basically involves just pouring this hot bitumen mix onto the road and letting it set.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 18, 2014, 10:24:04 am
LOOK: How A483 and A55 roadworks will affect your journey for next seven months

Full breakdown of the £5.3m works, due to last until March next year, confirmed by The Highways Agency

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-how-a483-a55-roadworks-7787111 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-how-a483-a55-roadworks-7787111)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 01, 2014, 12:19:29 pm
More investment needed for A55 and North Wales transport

call for more investment in North Wales projects, saying: “The A55 is not fit for purpose in a lot of places. We lack hard shoulders and the quality of junctions that enable traffic to flow more freely. There are still bottlenecks at Queensferry along the A494 and over the River Dee. Massive investment is needed, but will be dependent on funding being available from the Welsh Government. In my constituency we need to plan for a new Menai crossing, the only part of the A55 which is still single-carriageway.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/more-investment-needed-a55-north-7862072 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/more-investment-needed-a55-north-7862072)

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 06, 2014, 10:18:55 am
A55 roadworks at St Asaph cause long delays

There are reports of tail backs from junction 27 St Asaph as far back as Rhuallt Hill in the westbound direction. Shorter delays have been reported in the eastbound direction.
One lane in each direction has been closed for the work which is due to be completed later this week.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-st-asaph-cause-7887396 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-st-asaph-cause-7887396)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area near conwy tunnel crash
Post by: SteveH on October 06, 2014, 10:45:46 am
A55: A blue Vauxhall Corsa is being recovered from the A55 near the Conwy Tunnel entrance after it collided with the central reservation. An ambulance is at the scene but there are no details of injuries. Meanwhile, further east at junction 35, the fire service have been called to deal with another blue Vauxhall Corsa which is reported on fire. Police said a woman has been taken to hospital with slight injuries suffered in that incident.
Ref DP blog
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 06, 2014, 11:06:12 am
CONWY: Two women were given precautionary check-up by paramedics after their car collided near Conwy tunnel. A Welsh Ambulance Service spokesperson said a crew in an emergency ambulance came across the collision. 
Ref DP blog
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 06, 2014, 01:19:32 pm
A55 'glare risk' for drivers in October
Low autumn sun glare across the A55 expressway in the north is a potentially lethal driving hazard, warns a motoring body.

Since 2010, an average of 28 road deaths a year in Britain are down to drivers being dazzled, said the AA
Sunrise and sunset have moved into the morning and evening rush hours for the UK's commuters until the clocks go back on Sunday 26 October, the AA says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29472183 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-29472183)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on October 06, 2014, 01:21:43 pm
Isn't there a recall on Vauxhall Corsas at the mo'?
I wonder if either car is subject to that recall?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 08, 2014, 05:41:19 pm
Welsh Government's lack of communication over A55 roadworks slammed as 'crazy'

The work to install emergency crossing points in the central reservation and hard shoulders is being conducted over three phases between October and February next year but the removal and re-emergence of lane closures without any clear notice, or sign that work is taking place, has prompted opposition AMs to hit out.
The Welsh Government said the closures with no workforce are needed to allow concrete safety fence foundations to harden

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-governments-lack-communication-over-7903183 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-governments-lack-communication-over-7903183)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on October 08, 2014, 05:47:36 pm
It's intriguing.  “The information they have given is not specific enough. It isn’t rocket science. They must have a plan they are working to. This is just crazy.”


Indeed,  and the same could be said of every local council in the area, especially CCBC...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 14, 2014, 10:22:56 am
A55 roadworks return and cause long delays between Abergele and Bodelwyddan

Drivers faced queues of several miles during the morning rush hour as roadworks returned to  the A55.
The delays hit motorists travelling between Abergele and Bodelwyddan where the expressway is  down to one lane on both carriageways.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-return-cause-long-7931000 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-return-cause-long-7931000) :(
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 22, 2014, 11:35:29 am
Drivers left in a spin by new traffic signs in Llandudno

Conwy County Council introduced the new colour coded signage but they have instead caused confusion among motorists who claim they “contradict” those signs currently directing traffic.

Llandudno resident Clive Thomas, aged 39, said: “While the new colour coded signs are a good idea, with others already in place it has caused quite a bit of confusion which could end up being damaging to the town.
“Drivers don’t know whether they are coming or going and with the signs being so close together, they contradict which avenues are best to find a parking spot.
“It seems strange that the council has put these up when there are already signs available should drivers need directions.”
In total, 39 signs are being erected, and motorists are advised to follow green for the town centre, red for Venue Cymru, blue for the retail park and brown for long stay parking
http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139705/drivers-left-in-a-spin-by-new-traffic-signs-in-llandudno.aspx (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/139705/drivers-left-in-a-spin-by-new-traffic-signs-in-llandudno.aspx)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Yorkie on October 22, 2014, 12:06:46 pm

In total, 39 signs are being erected, and motorists are advised to follow green for the town centre, red for Venue Cymru, blue for the retail park and brown for long stay parking


And colour blind people are left to go round in ever decreasing circles until they disappear . . . . . .

 _))*
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 01, 2015, 11:59:48 am
Huge A55 bus blaze at Rhuallt Hill

Passengers had to flee for their lives after a bus caught fire in a "massive" blaze on the A55.
Motorists reported seeing flames shoot out from the Cavendish bus which was quickly enveloped in a cloud of thick black smoke.
Initial reports from the emergency services suggest all the passengers on board escaped unharmed.
The fire started, just before 10.15am as the bus was travelling in the eastbound carriageway to the top of Rhuallt Hill.

Diversions are now in place and North Wales Police is warning drivers to expect delays until further notice
PHOTOS
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-huge-a55-bus-blaze-9365818?f (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/look-huge-a55-bus-blaze-9365818?f)

A55 E'bound.Fire service have extinguished vehicle.Awaiting recovery.Diversion remain until further notice.Delays on Rhuallt Hill. Ref  NWPC 11.44
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: hollins on June 01, 2015, 04:43:54 pm
I hope everyone did escape unharmed as the report says. I was taking my mum home and got caught up the the traffic jam just after Denbigh/St Asaph. The trip took about 2 hours longer than normal but at least we are safe. While we we queuing up the hill a police car brought an Alpine coach up through the jam, obviously to pick up the poor stranded passengers.
We were taken off at the junction at the top of the hill so I retreated back down the A55 and carried on through Trefnant to Mold and back to the A55 at Queensferry.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 25, 2015, 10:01:41 am
A55: Welsh Government's seeks millions in EU cash to improve road

A multi-million pound EU funding bid to improve the A55 and turn Holyhead into a key link on the European transport network has been made by the Welsh Government.
Transport Minister Edwina Hart made the announcement as she explores how Brussels can help to pay to maintain the region’s key trunk road.

A government source told the Daily Post that the A55 was eligible for the bid on the basis that the money would be used to remove bottlenecks that “hamper the smooth functioning of the internal (European) market”.
The road is seen as key because it is the main link between Ireland and the UK and on to mainland Europe.

The funding bid has been submitted to the Trans European Transport Network (TEN-T) “motorways of the sea” project but the Welsh Government refused to say how much money it had applied for from the EU.

Ms Hart also reiterated the Welsh Government’s commitment to invest millions of pounds in North Wales’s transport network over the next few years.

Key pledges include;   http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-welsh-governments-seeks-millions-9522001 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-welsh-governments-seeks-millions-9522001)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on June 25, 2015, 11:23:19 am
The coast Road past Bodafon Fields is being re-surfaced ( Thank goodness ), but traffic lights are causing queuing and delays. Trouble is that too many large vehicles are trying to get around this via Bodafon Rd and Bryn-y-Bia and it makes using the road quite hairy !
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 03, 2015, 06:46:31 pm
Three motorcyclists dead in separate incidents:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-33755093 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-33755093)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2015, 06:49:39 pm
Three motorcyclists dead in separate incidents:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-33755093 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-33755093)

Not exactly in the area Ian. I wonder how many of the three fatalities were rider error?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 03, 2015, 06:50:47 pm
No idea Dave, but they weren't young guys.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on August 03, 2015, 06:56:21 pm
When they released figures the other year the surprising factor was that the average age of a Welsh motorbike fatality was mid fifties. I guess they are the age group that can finance the big fast bikes and the fuel to run them. Being a non biker and past the age of needing to regain my youth I was amazed at the cost of biking.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on August 04, 2015, 09:41:23 am
When they released figures the other year the surprising factor was that the average age of a Welsh motorbike fatality was mid fifties. I guess they are the age group that can finance the big fast bikes and the fuel to run them. Being a non biker and past the age of needing to regain my youth I was amazed at the cost of biking.
You see them every weekend around Snowdonia. Middle aged men on powerful bikes. I'm sure Freud would have a lot to say about them...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 11, 2015, 07:35:15 am
I found it very odd that BBC Wales' 1830 TV News bulletin last night contained no mention of the Propane Tanker fire on the M56. It was the Westbound carriageway on which the fire occurred, and that would have been the very place where large numbers of North Wales commuters might have been attempting to make their way home. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 09, 2015, 10:34:23 pm


A tunnel on one of Wales' busiest commuter routes faces nightly closures for up to nine weeks as new lighting is installed as part of a £42m upgrade.

The westbound carriageway of the A55 Penmaenbach tunnel will be completely closed at night with just one lane open during the day from 18 October



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-34486535 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-34486535)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on October 19, 2015, 08:58:27 am
From the DP:

Nearly 1,500 vehicles have been involved in smashes on the A55 over the last three years sparking calls for a safety review. And there has been a worrying rise in crashes by almost half during that period, involving cars, vans, motorbikes and lorries, figures have revealed.

Between October 2012 and September 2013 there were 335 on North Wales’ main dual carriageway. That had risen to 484 from October 2014 to September 2015 – about a 44% increase.

Full story:

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/crashes-a55-rise-half-last-10285645#rlabs=2%20rt (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/crashes-a55-rise-half-last-10285645#rlabs=2%20rt)$sitewide%20p$1
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 21, 2015, 10:37:30 am
Yesterday at approx 4.45 pm I was driving along the A470 from Betws Y Coed and came to the Black Cat roundabout in Glan Conwy.   I needed some groceries so I took the slip road to Tesco's at Llandudno Junction.
As soon as I was on the slip road I realised that it was a big, big mistake.   The A55 was grid locked and it took about 30 minutes just to get to the Tesco roundabout and it was grid locked there too.
I turned around and went to Morrison's in Colwyn Bay instead.
I feel sorry for the daily commuters on this stretch of the A55
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on October 21, 2015, 12:55:12 pm
I don't think there'll ever come a time when the A55 is clear.

Yesterday my mother-in-law had an appointment at Ysbyty Gwynedd at 11am.  My wife was concerned about parking so I offered to take them as I could drive away and return when they phoned to say they were ready.

Fortunately my car has Sat Nav and it immediately showed a red line from Conwy to Bangor with the warning symbols.  Although this was at 10am (I was in the Junction) it gave an ETA of 1130, so we would have been late.

I went into Conwy and over Sychnant Pass, getting to the A55 immediately before the tunnel leading to Llanfairfechan.  Then had a clear run and we arrived at Ysbyty Gwynedd at 1045 ... 45 minutes earlier than the original ETA.

I don't know what had happened to cause such a delay - on our return we had a non-stop run eastwards along the A55 and all we saw were some workers near the Puffin roundabout where the road went into one lane.  It must have been lunch-break as they were sitting on the armco!

What I find mildly amusing is that the press have given the reason for the single-lane working for the next two months as being to improve lighting to improve safety (how does that work) and to avoid constant future work - now that last statement I do not believe for one moment.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on October 21, 2015, 01:43:53 pm
And it will get worse.....

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-two-year-traffic-misery-10295540 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-two-year-traffic-misery-10295540)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: FatAndy on October 21, 2015, 06:01:41 pm
Yesterday at approx 4.45 pm I was driving along the A470 from Betws Y Coed and came to the Black Cat roundabout in Glan Conwy.   I needed some groceries so I took the slip road to Tesco's at Llandudno Junction.As soon as I was on the slip road I realised that it was a big, big mistake.   The A55 was grid locked and it took about 30 minutes just to get to the Tesco roundabout and it was grid locked there too.


There was an accident in the roadworks on the Westbound side just after 4.00pm so the queues were probably far worse than they normally would have been (although I'm sure they'd have been bad enough anyway).
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 21, 2015, 08:09:45 pm
Something to look forward to in 2017

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-two-year-traffic-misery-10295540 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-two-year-traffic-misery-10295540)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on October 21, 2015, 08:22:55 pm
Something to look forward to in 2017

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-two-year-traffic-misery-10295540 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-two-year-traffic-misery-10295540)


There's not a lot of room for the two east bound slip ways when you consider the proximity of the railway lines.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 21, 2015, 08:48:00 pm
They should have thought of that when they designed the A55,  but it was all done as cheaply as possible and now there are ongoing problems with it.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on October 22, 2015, 09:04:35 am
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Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2015, 11:40:55 am
They should have thought of that when they designed the A55,  but it was all done as cheaply as possible and now there are ongoing problems with it.
The work to remove the roundabouts is long overdue, but can only cause traffic chaos whilst it is being carried out. As has been said, it should have been done properly in the first place.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Gwynant on October 22, 2015, 11:45:25 am
       When we were returning home from a day trip to Dublin very early this morning there were traffic lights in operation at about 1 a.m. on either side of the Penmaenbach tunnel, (which is completely closed at night for the lighting updating work), and only one lane at a time in operation using only the outer lane around the headland.
     We were lucky as the lights were on green as we approached from the Penmaenmawr side and we were in amongst a large convoy of HGVs from the ferries which docked in Holyhead around midnight but there were quite a few queueing on the Conwy side at the red light en route to catch the outgoing ferries. I don't know what time this system comes into operation every night but as we were going to Holyhead yesterday morning at about 7 a.m. there was just one lane using the tunnel and no delays although the road was very busy.
     I realise that there is no alternative to this system as there is definitely not much room for two of those massive HGVs on a contraflow system around the the outer lanes of the headland, but if there is any problem on the one lane in the tunnel  travelling towards Bangor (as I believe there was on Tuesday) there is no alternative route available to use once you are "trapped" on the A55, although I note that there are plans to install ECRs ( emergency crossing routes/gates) like the ones between Aber and Llandegai every 2.5k in the future but that won't help in the Penmaenbach area with the present system.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on October 22, 2015, 11:50:37 am
The Tunnels are another example of penny pinching when the A55 was built, using the old route as one lane is obviously unsuitable for a major road but was a lot cheaper than building two tunnels.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on October 22, 2015, 05:31:42 pm
The Tunnels are another example of penny pinching when the A55 was built, using the old route as one lane is obviously unsuitable for a major road but was a lot cheaper than building two tunnels.

The odd thing is that it's a 30mph limit now that traffic is using it as a dual carriage way, when things were coming at you head on it was the maximum speed limit if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on October 23, 2015, 07:44:52 am
I think you're right. As Dave R has said to leave that convoluted road in place as one carriageway was just penny pinching.   
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 30, 2015, 05:23:21 pm
Not exactly road conditions but these efforts at parking don't help anyone.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-worst-parking-back-10517518 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-worst-parking-back-10517518)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 12, 2015, 03:56:06 pm
There was quite a lot of flood water on the road from Llandudno Junction to Deganwy earlier today but some places have had it worse.


Flood warnings as rain affects travel in north and mid Wales


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35077060 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-35077060)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 26, 2015, 05:05:03 pm
Homes evacuated and A5 and A55 shut in north Wales floods


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35181479 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35181479)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on December 27, 2015, 10:59:15 am
Update: A470 closed both ways between Glan Conwy and Betwys. A5 closed at Corwen.

Upon approaching one of the chaps from the Environment agency in Llanrwst last night and asking him where was the expensive flood barrier defence installed in 2012, he replied "The key's in Llandudno...".  He might not have been telling the truth, I suppose, but I do know from their website how badly organised the Environment Agency is. Could they be so inept that the key required to activate the flood defence system is kept in Llandudno?  That'd make a nice piece for the Daily Post...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: hollins on December 27, 2015, 02:26:19 pm
We went for lunch yesterday to Tyddyn Llan in Llandrillo and had to drive through the River Dee flood at Corwen. The water was crashing across the road like a stormy sea and that was just the water from the fields going across the road, not the torrent that was going under the bridge.
Quite a scary sight and not a good day for driving anywhere.
Fab lunch though, Dover sole!

 $dins$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on December 29, 2015, 11:19:07 am
Once again, the A55 has been closed due to flooding, and this is after £3,000,000 of work was carried out to prevent flooding back in 2013. From what I've seen myself, the work consisted of relaying a French drain along the side of the road - how anyone could think that would be able to cope with the massive volumes of water seen draining off the fields during heavy rain is beyond me? If you study the topography of the land at that point, the answer is straightforward - build large ditches on either side of the road that drain the floodwater straight into the Ogwen river that is only several hundred feet away in the Bangor direction.

Photo courtesy of Gerallt Jones.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on December 29, 2015, 04:17:58 pm
It does not look like rocket science to sort that problem out! £3,000,000 down the drain, if there is one!  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on December 29, 2015, 04:34:44 pm
Sadly, I think the problems stem from a lack of informed thinking. When the road was constructed, with the associated drainage, it would have been designed to withstand a 1 in 100 year weather event. That's pretty standard, even now. There's a general lack of acceptance that the climate is changing and a complete lack of understanding about the effects of that change, the major one of which is to increase the frequency of severe weather events.

A good example of this is the Marine drive around the Orme. One of the contributory factors behind the flooding in 1993 was that the road has a wall around it which acts - for all intents and purposes - as a gutter.  In Florida, where torrential rain is the norm, the drain cavities are enormous, so they don't have flooding as such. It would have cost relatively little to insert large openings in the wall and the rock face sides, so that were another event such as the 1993 storm to repeat itself, Llandudno would survive the event much better. But no: in their collective wisdom the various councils have decided that such an event won't reoccur for another hundred years.

Guess what...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 21, 2016, 10:21:30 pm
More news about the A55       


http://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/local/157609/conwy-tunnel-lane-closures-planned-for-improvement-works.aspx#.VqFZC_QEICk.email (http://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/local/157609/conwy-tunnel-lane-closures-planned-for-improvement-works.aspx#.VqFZC_QEICk.email)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2016, 03:44:43 pm
The Welsh Government installed 38 crossing points to ease the mayhem caused by road closures on the expressway


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/5m-a55-traffic-congestion-scheme-10782394 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/5m-a55-traffic-congestion-scheme-10782394)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2016, 10:37:42 pm


Police car in multi-vehicle A55 crash near Llanfairfechan


1 hour ago

 From the section North West Wales
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35405912 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35405912)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on January 26, 2016, 09:00:36 am
The A55 seems to end up getting closed due to a car crash at some point almost every day.  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: TheMedz on February 15, 2016, 01:16:08 pm
After returning from a short break away I noticed road closure signs on Ty Gwyn road on the Orme for Friday 19th February. I fully expected to find some details pushed through the door from Welsh Water but there was nothing. I had a web chat with Welsh water who advised that the road will be open up until 6 o'clock after which traffic will be diverted up Tabor Hill and back onto Ty Gwyn at Black Gate while they fix a leak.


Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on February 17, 2016, 09:32:32 am
We recently went for a walk around Crafnant and travelled the usual way down the B5106 from Conwy to get there. Having travelled on that road for close on 40 years, I was amazed to see the extent of recent flood damage to the road and the area around; by far the worst I've ever seen. It doesn't bode well for the future if climate change continues to get worse.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 20, 2016, 10:31:37 am
Have you made it into the North Wales' worst parking 2016 rogues gallery?


http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiR54vikIbLAhWECBoKHXqCCQcQqQIINjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailypost.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fnorth-wales-news%2Fnorth-wales-worst-parking-you-10917360&usg=AFQjCNEF8qi4NldcuPqJFiCoGXtxyLNBUw (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiR54vikIbLAhWECBoKHXqCCQcQqQIINjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailypost.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fnorth-wales-news%2Fnorth-wales-worst-parking-you-10917360&usg=AFQjCNEF8qi4NldcuPqJFiCoGXtxyLNBUw)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2016, 02:32:42 pm
Dashcam captures A494 driver going WRONG WAY down dual carriageway at night ... with no lights on.    Absolutely crackers and lucky that no one was killed.


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MjU2ODgxNDAxMTkmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9N20yM2VFVHRvYU9BdzliM1pfSnZqUSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=25688140119&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&ck=69ffb0fadba1eedb2ab5c10f2d1944d8
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area A55 CLOSED COL/BAY
Post by: SteveH on March 22, 2016, 12:20:03 pm
Chemical spillage closes part of A55 near Colwyn Bay

A chemical spillage from a tanker has led to part of the A55 in Conwy county being closed.
The road has been shut in both directions between junction 21 at Colwyn Bay and junction 22 at Llanddulas.
North Wales Fire and Rescue Service said a lorry had "sprung a leak" and it was working with the tanker company to establish what chemicals were involved.
Three fire engines and an incident response vehicle are at the scene.
Environmental control teams are also on their way.
The fire service said the chemicals could be decanted from the leaking vehicle to another and warned the road could be closed "for some time".
REF..BBC
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 22, 2016, 01:27:40 pm
A55 closure has caused major traffic disruption in Colwyn Bay.

Would appear to be an ongoing problem at this time.....

Symbols on the back of the tanker suggest it was carrying the corrosive substance called Ferric Chloride. It is described as toxic, highly corrosive and acidic.

"Please be patient, traffic is being moved off the #A55 through the crash gate by Rainbow Bridge."

MORE and PHOTOS...http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/live-a55-closed-due-chemical-11077781 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/local-news/live-a55-closed-due-chemical-11077781)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 22, 2016, 02:53:06 pm
I've just had a phone call from my wife who is on the A55 westbound from Llandudno Junction to Colwyn Bay and it's gridlocked.  No movement whatsoever.
I came from Llandudno and there were serious problems at the West End of Colwyn Bay too
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 22, 2016, 04:17:48 pm
I don,t think this is linked to the chemical spillage but still affects the A55 for the next couple of days......

A55 shut overnight in Conwy and Denbighshire.

Drivers face disruption during overnight roadworks on the A55.
A stretch of the road will be closed in Conwy and Denbighshire.

In Conwy county, both the westbound and eastbound carriageways of the A55 will be closed during the night between Junction 19 at the Black Cat roundabout in Llandudno Junction and Junction 22 at Old Colwyn between 8pm and 6am until the morning of Thursday, March 24.

Diversions will be in place.

In Denbighshire, one lane will also be shut on the A55 in both directions between Junction 27 at St Asaph and Junction 31 at Caerwys between 8pm and 6am until Thursday, March 24.  REF DPost.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on March 22, 2016, 05:04:22 pm
I've just had a phone call from my wife who is on the A55 westbound from Llandudno Junction to Colwyn Bay and it's gridlocked.  No movement whatsoever.
I came from Llandudno and there were serious problems at the West End of Colwyn Bay too


Nightmare! Just took me two and a half hours to get from Black Cat to Old Colwyn.
In the old days they would have had a copper on point duty at the exit to help relieve the tail back. The only one I saw was parked up in a side street keeping a low profile. Waste of space!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 22, 2016, 05:34:47 pm
Chemical spillage closes part of A55 near Colwyn Bay


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35869450 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-35869450)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Michael on March 22, 2016, 07:45:38 pm
   OOhhh Hugo, I've got it in for you. If your wife was driving westward from the junction to colwyn bay, its no wonder it took her a long time. She should have been driving eastward.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 23, 2016, 07:54:15 am
   OOhhh Hugo, I've got it in for you. If your wife was driving westward from the junction to colwyn bay, its no wonder it took her a long time. She should have been driving eastward.


It wasn't all bad Mike, at least I wasn't in the car with her.     ;D
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 23, 2016, 11:20:56 am
One lane of A55 remains closed at Colwyn Bay after chemical spillage

Heavy traffic has been reported today on the westbound carriageway as a result of yesterday's incident.

One lane of the A55 remains closed this morning at Colwyn Bay after a major chemical spill yesterday shut the dual carriageway for at least 10 hours causing traffic chaos.
Heavy traffic has been reported on the westbound carriageway today, with one lane still shut.

The A55 at Colwyn Bay was closed completely at 11am yesterday, between Junction 22 the Promenade at Old Colwyn and Junction 23 at Abergele Road, after a tanker shed its load.
North Wales Fire and Rescue Service chiefs said 27,000 litres of the chemical - believed to be a corrosive substance called Ferric Chloride - was spilled during the incident.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/one-lane-a55-remains-closed-11083023 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/one-lane-a55-remains-closed-11083023)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area UPDATE
Post by: SteveH on March 23, 2016, 01:25:00 pm
UPDATE.......A55 to be closed overnight

Drivers face further disruption during overnight roadworks on the A55 this evening.  23/3/16.
A stretch of the road will be closed in Conwy and Denbighshire .

The works were originally planned for last night, but were cancelled after a tanker spilled a chemical substance at Colywn Bay forcing the carriageway to be closed in both directions for around 10 hours.
Both the westbound and eastbound carriageways of the A55 will be closed overnight tonight for essential maintenance work and new signs and lighting to be installed.

It’s due to work between Junction 19 at the Black Cat roundabout in Llandudno Junction and Junction 22 at Old Colwyn between 8pm tonight and 6am tomorrow, Thursday, March 24.

Diversions will be in place.

In Denbighshire, barrier works mean one lane will be shut on the A55 in both directions between Junction 27 at St Asaph and Junction 31 at Caerwys between 8pm tonight and 6am tomorrow, Thursday, March 24.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/a55-closed-overnight-conwy-denbighshire-11085015 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/a55-closed-overnight-conwy-denbighshire-11085015)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area UP/UPDATE!!!!!
Post by: SteveH on March 23, 2016, 05:50:33 pm
A55 roadworks cancelled again due to chemical spillage clean-up        ???     :roll:
Overnight roadworks on the A55 have been postponed again because of disruption caused by yesterday’s chemical spillage.

The works in Conwy and Denbighshire were originally planned for last night, but were cancelled after a tanker spilled a chemical substance at Colywn Bay and were rescheduled for this evening.

But the Welsh Government has now announced the upgrades have been postponed for a second time due to the ongoing clean-up works associated with the tanker incident .

No new date has been given
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-cancelled-again-due-11087319 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-cancelled-again-due-11087319)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 25, 2016, 01:19:15 pm
Investigation launched into A55 chemical spill which shut dual carriageway

The carriageway was completely shut in both directions on Tuesday after a lorry carrying a tank containing up to 27,000 litres of corrosive liquid came to a standstill, spilling ferric chloride onto the road surface.
Between the spill and the clean-up operation, it was more than 43 hours until all lanes of the A55 were reopened
Aside from questions raised about the potential safety issues around the spill, concerns have been raised about the apparent failure of the authorities to take control of the situation.

The fiasco has prompted calls for better management of emergency situations on the region’s most important road.

The closure effectively brought North Wales to a standstill, and Colwyn Bay was near gridlocked with lorries and cars trying to get from west to east.
The Daily Post has been able to establish that the company transporting the ferric chloride was an Irish haulage firm called Clare County Trucking, from Southern Ireland.
The consignment of chemicals belonged to an Irish firm by the name of Chemifloc.
The Daily Post contacted the firm yesterday, and was told that the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) was investigating the incident.
But, when the Post had contacted that body on Wednesday, it said it had not yet been asked to investigate.

“We know from experience how much local people depend on having this road open in terms of the economy, and it’s vital that emergency services such as ambulances can get across the region without hindrance."

“But we also need to investigate the plans for dealing with a major closure on the A55. We cannot have another repeat of the gridlock that was created on Conwy roads."

Two statements from the same article......Altogether now ?

“However, road safety is a priority for the Welsh Government and there are stringent regulations and controls in place for the transportation of chemicals.
“We work closely with the emergency services and other agencies to ensure these controls are enforced and to respond as quickly and effectively as possible to any incident.”

A Welsh Government spokesperson said it “worked closely with the emergency services”, but was unable to tell the Daily Post what steps are taken in response to an incident of this nature.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/investigation-launched-a55-chemical-spill-11095914 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/investigation-launched-a55-chemical-spill-11095914)



Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on March 25, 2016, 01:36:43 pm
Iron Chloride is a nasty compound which can have devastating effects if accidentally ingested. Frankly, it has no place even being transported on roads during the day and, in fact, railways are far better suited to transporting these sorts of materials.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: mull on March 26, 2016, 09:46:31 am
If it had happened 4 hours later it could have been on a ferry.
That would make things interesting for the crew and passengers.
Sleep well !
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on March 26, 2016, 10:27:55 am
If it had happened 4 hours later it could have been on a ferry.
That would make things interesting for the crew and passengers.
Sleep well !


I think it had just come off the ferry.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 26, 2016, 11:05:14 am
The Company in the recent A55 chemical spill, responsible for incident that left eight in hospital 4 years ago.

Irish firm Clare County Trucking was transporting the tanker and chemical on behalf of Chemifloc, who were responsible for a spill that left eight people in hospital in 2012.

That incident happened at the company’s Shannon site, and a subsequent Environmental Protection Agency report found materials had been stored incorrectly and the firm wasn’t fully compliant with its licence conditions.

In 2009, Chemifloc was prosecuted over “permitting emissions to the atmosphere at the Smithstown Industrial Estate” in Shannon two years earlier.
Neither of the incidents related to ferric chloride, which is used in waste water treatment.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/company-a55-chemical-spill-responsible-11097566 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/company-a55-chemical-spill-responsible-11097566)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Michael on March 26, 2016, 03:55:46 pm
sSDQ I doubt it seeing it was heading towards Holyhead
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Michael on March 26, 2016, 04:35:51 pm
  And whilst we are on the subject of road conditions may I point out the constant misuse of the word gridlocked. It first came out around 50 or so years ago to describe where very heavy traffic went around. Buildings, took four right hand turns and ended up at the back of his original queue. Blocked solid. Nothing could ever move until someone turned left and "unlocked" it by providing a space to allow the  movement to start. It used to happen a lot. But it should not be used to describe a long straight queue. That is not a gridlock. That is just a plain hold up. The gridlock word was obviously started because of its similarity to a grid in the ground. It cannot be broken until one section is smashed, and then it all collapses.
 Oh, and another way of unlocking it was for a few cars to reverse, thus allowing it all to move.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on March 26, 2016, 06:59:00 pm
sSDQ I doubt it seeing it was heading towards Holyhead


It was the other carriageway that was closed longest & only opened to one lane the next day so I thought that must have been the direction it was travelling.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area RHOS on Sea
Post by: SteveH on March 29, 2016, 02:05:52 pm
Car overturns near Hickory's Rhos on Sea and shuts road.

An overturned car has forced police to close a road in Rhos on Sea.
Officers were called to reports of a single vehicle collision on Brompton Avenue just after 10.14am.
They found a Fiat on its roof.
The road is currently closed as recovery teams work at the scene.
Eyewitnesses told the Daily Post that the driver and one passenger managed to get out the vehicle by their own accord after the crash.

A Welsh Ambulance Service spokeswoman confirmed that a man and a woman escaped unharmed.
"We sent a crew in an emergency ambulance to the scene, where a male and a female were given a precautionary check-up but did not travel to hospital," she said.

The accident is near the Hickory’s restaurant and is still causing disruption.
A spokeswoman for Hickory’s said the restaurant is not affected and customers are still able to gain access.
REF DP.  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-overturns-near-hickorys-rhos-11107194 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-overturns-near-hickorys-rhos-11107194)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 01, 2016, 12:18:17 pm
Rhos on Sea 'hidden' speed camera van blasted by motorists association

A national motoring organisation has blasted road safety bosses after a speed camera van was “hidden” on a Rhos on Sea street.
The Go Safe van, stationed on Llandudno Road, was tracking drivers on Wednesday morning.
A photograph of the offending vehicle was uploaded to the Speed Camera Spotters North Wales Facebook community. It was positioned at the entrance to an electricity sub-station.
Hugh Bladon, a founder member of the Alliance of British Drivers, said: “It’s a ridiculous thing to do and it’s understandable people are annoyed.
“The van is there because the speed limit is inappropriately slow.
“We would not condone people breaking the speed limit but the object of the exercise is to penalise motorists.
“All we do in this country is penalise motorists. It’s ridiculous.”

Comments on the Speed Camera Spotters Facebook site were also critical of the tactic.
“One big money making van,” said one.
“I didn’t notice it for ages before it was that hidden, till I got up close,” said another.

The guidelines for mobile camera enforcement staff is that they should not be “covert”.
Covert traffic enforcement in North Wales is the jurisdiction of North Wales Police .
Mobile enforcement cameras are only permitted on designated routes, unless specific criteria are met.

“Exceptional” sites can be targeted if there have been a number of accidents, fatalities or injuries, if the community has concerns or if there are structural concerns about the route that cannot be immediately rectified.

Llandudno Road is a “core” site, meaning it is designated as a speed check, and there are warning signs about cameras on the approach.

However local motorists have questioned the validity of placing the van in such a position, and certainly question whether it is positioned withing the spirit of the guidelines.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-sea-hidden-speed-camera-11123205 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-sea-hidden-speed-camera-11123205)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 01, 2016, 01:13:44 pm
That is the one I saw and reported on here the other day! Glad  the sneaky van has made the newspapers! I notice that a car is parked there now!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 01, 2016, 01:16:33 pm
It's a difficult one Steve and everyone will have an opinion on it.   The guidelines for mobile camera enforcement staff is that they should not be “covert”  but there are unmarked Police cars out there with speed cameras on board so that could be called covert too.
As could the CCTV cameras in shops etc  so I suppose the answer is don't break the law and complain afterwards if you get caught.

Hugh Bladon, a founder member of the Alliance of British Drivers, said: “It’s a ridiculous thing to do and it’s understandable people are annoyed.  “The van is there because the speed limit is inappropriately slow.
With all due respect to the guy who is he to say the speed limit is inappropriately slow.
There is a busy College at one end of the stretch and a dangerous mini roundabout at the other.  In between there are a number of private houses and at one time there was a nursing home there and bus stops too.
A friend of mine was in a car crossing the mini round about from Marine Road when the car she was in was hit by another car coming too fast down Llandudno Road from the Llandrillo College area.
She had to have treatment in the hospital for many months afterwards and I bet she didn't think that the speed limit was inappropriately low.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 01, 2016, 02:03:33 pm
Hugo,   I believe in the deterrent value of a  non covert system,  I think we are more aware of our speed after having seen a camera van in a particular area and remember it well into the future.

Is this van dealing with other issues tax,insurance etc ?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on April 01, 2016, 02:36:47 pm
I suspect that hidden vans have the same effect on motorists as the parent who smacks a child for doing something that annoys them. It might deter that particular motorist from speeding on that stretch of road again, but it does little or nothing to change the behaviour of other motorists.

What I'm curious about is the brace of two cameras above the A470 as you leave Glan Conwy heading towards Black Cat. They resemble 'average speed' cameras, but I don't know where the other cameras are, as you obviously need two sets for the average speed check.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 01, 2016, 03:26:33 pm
Hugo,   I believe in the deterrent value of a  non covert system,  I think we are more aware of our speed after having seen a camera van in a particular area and remember it well into the future.

Is this van dealing with other issues tax,insurance etc ?

I very much doubt it Steve,  they only seem to be dealing with speeding offences.     When they are using cars or vans with the ANPR cameras there is usually another Police vehicle as back up to catch up with the offender.
Fester mentioned some thing interesting  recently and that was to do with the abolition of Road Tax discs.    It was introduced as a cost saving exercise and would save £10M   but in actual fact the Government has lost a considerable sum of money far in excess of the £10M simply because some motorists are taking advantage of the system and chancing not being caught out.

You can check on line if someone has got valid car tax and MOT by simply putting car tax checker into Google and following the instructions.
However the DVLA  has replaced the previous system with another system ironically called Beta and to be honest it's rubbish.    I've had to check something on it recently and when I put the correct registration and make of the vehicle in it said that they had no record of such a vehicle.
At the time I was booking my car in at Halford's Autocentre for the MOT  and put the other vehicle's reg in and hey presto Halford's had a record of it.    It just proves that getting things on the cheap like the Government does is not always a good thing.
 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 01, 2016, 03:43:04 pm
Hugo, I go to Braid's in Mochdre for my mot, worth a try!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 01, 2016, 03:57:33 pm
Thanks for the tip ME  but I've booked in now and I've been with them for a number of years .  I think that I paid £27.42 for the MOT on line
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 01, 2016, 05:46:16 pm
A Daily Post article from June 2015.

North Wales Police boss's cash cow speed cameras fear
A police boss is seeking assurances that speed cameras will not be used as a money-making cash cow.

Julian Sandham, the Deputy Police and Crime Commissioner, says it should be made clear the purpose of the Go Safe scheme is to reduce casualties and save lives.

Mr Sandham and his boss, Commissioner Winston Roddick, have written expressing their views to the chief lead officer for the Welsh Road Casualty Reduction Partnership, Carl Langley, the Deputy Chief Constable of Dyfed Powys Police.
They fear that Go Safe may be putting too much prominence on “income generation”.
That claim was denied by Go Safe who said there was "no element of income generation" in its strategy.
A study is now being conducted in North Wales to see if the Go Safe scheme could be made more effective.

MORE    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-police-bosss-cash-9444546 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-police-bosss-cash-9444546)


Link to Go Safe Wales....... Road Casualty Reduction Partnership.
http://www.gosafe.org/about-us/where-fine-revenue-goes.aspx (http://www.gosafe.org/about-us/where-fine-revenue-goes.aspx)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 02, 2016, 11:21:13 am
'Hidden' Rhos-on-Sea camera van spot won't be used again

A “hidden” speed camera van will no longer be deployed at a controversial location after a flurry of complaints from motorists.
GoSafe partnership manager Chris Hume (see above)made the vow after a driver spotted one of their vans was “hidden” behind a garden wall on Llandudno Road, Rhos-on-Sea.

Facebook group Speed Camera Spotters North Wales raised the issue and a founder member of the Alliance of British Drivers, blasted the positioning of the van as “ridiculous”.
It was parked in the drive of an electricity sub-station, behind a telegraph pole, garden wall and a member of the public’s car

Mr Hume, speaking to the Daily Post, agreed it was “against the spirit of what GoSafe was trying to do”.

MORE    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hidden-rhos-sea-camera-van-11126885 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/hidden-rhos-sea-camera-van-11126885)

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 02, 2016, 04:50:54 pm
Lets hope any drivers caught by this underhand speed tax van will not be prosecuted!  I wonder what targets the van operatives have to meet? A pity with all the council cutbacks that they do not scrap the damned things!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 02, 2016, 06:07:21 pm
I remember some time ago when the Police were targeted for convictions of all kinds and when those figures were low, they would have a blitz on the motorist just before the figures had to be reported.
I'm not sure if that thing still happens but there are other areas where the Traffic Police would be better employed.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 03, 2016, 09:23:26 pm
Dashcam video captures car flip through the air in Trefnant crash



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dashcam-video-captures-car-flip-11130773#rlabs=1%20p (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dashcam-video-captures-car-flip-11130773#rlabs=1%20p)$1
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on April 04, 2016, 12:05:51 pm
What I'm curious about is the brace of two cameras above the A470 as you leave Glan Conwy heading towards Black Cat. They resemble 'average speed' cameras, but I don't know where the other cameras are, as you obviously need two sets for the average speed check.
Trafficmaster, they are monitoring traffic flows.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 08, 2016, 04:16:28 pm
A55 roundabout removal project given £34m boost
The project to replace the A55 roundabouts at Llanfairfechan and Penmaenmawr has been allocated £34m by the Welsh Government.
Under the major highways scheme, the two roundabouts will be replaced with junctions - with two years of traffic delays for drivers.
The Welsh Government previously said it hoped to start the major construction scheme in 2017, with work lasting until 2019 and causing misery for motorists.

It has now been confirmed that £34m has been allocated to carry out the works to remove the two major issues on the expressway.
Many businesses and commuters have wanted the roundabouts replaced for a number of years.
The Welsh Government is still waiting to appoint an Early Contractor Involvement (ECI) company, which will now not happen until after the Assembly elections.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/a55-roundabout-removal-project-given-11156336 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/a55-roundabout-removal-project-given-11156336)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area [b]Long delays expected in Conwy Valley
Post by: SteveH on April 12, 2016, 11:02:10 am
Long delays expected in Conwy Valley as machinery is moved to water works
Long delays are expected in the Conwy Valley today as a low loader travels through the area.
The large truck will be carrying a pile driving machine, which is to be used during £31m water works at Bryn Cowlyd near Dolgarrog.

Long queues are expected throughout the day as the vehicle travels along the B5106 through Trefriw, Dolgarrog, Tal-Y-Bont and Tyn-Y-Groes. The journey will begin at Tal y Cafn at 12.45pm.

The journey is expected to take several hours, and motorists have been warned to expect severe delays in the area during the evening rush hour.
Due to the size of the machine, it will have to be unloaded and tracked across six bridges along the way, which will see vehicles stopped for a time.

The first bridge it will have to tackle is between Caerhun Hall and Tal-Y-Bont, with the low loader expected to arrive there at 1pm.
MORE  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/long-delays-expected-conwy-valley-11170124 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/long-delays-expected-conwy-valley-11170124)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 12, 2016, 12:39:20 pm
'Show us A55 roadworks are worth the hassle', demands Conwy council of government
The Welsh government is being called on by one of North Wales’ councils to justify whether roadworks on the A55 are really worth the hassle they cause.

Huge tailbacks late last year led hundreds of motorists to veer off through Conwy and Penmaenmawr , clogging roads, endangering pedestrians and sparking an outcry from Mayors and residents.

Conwy Council last month voted to recommend that the Welsh Government be asked “to undertake a cost benefit analysis of proposed future works against the economic impact on the North Wales region”, on the basis that “the A55 is crucial to the local, regional and national economy and it is essential that we work closely with North and Mid Wales Trunk Road Agency (NMWTRA) and Welsh Government to minimise delays and impact on local traffic.”.............

MORE AND POLL    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/show-a55-roadworks-worth-hassle-11173246 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/show-a55-roadworks-worth-hassle-11173246)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 15, 2016, 06:52:06 am
Tories plan 80mph limit on M4 and A55
The speed limit on the M4 and A55 could rise from 70mph to 80mph, under plans announced by the Welsh Conservatives.

I bet that this will be another U turn by the Tories, hopefully not on the A55 either.    Some days you are lucky enough to do 8 mph on it let alone 80 mph.
Have they ever been up north and used the A55?




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2016-wales-36047878 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2016-wales-36047878)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: snowcap on April 15, 2016, 11:07:44 pm
I think a lot drivers who use the A55 think it is an 80 mile an hour limit the way they pass me when I,m on it
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Fester on April 15, 2016, 11:49:42 pm
I think a lot drivers who use the A55 think it is an 80 mile an hour limit the way they pass me when I,m on it

That's a good point Bri,  if they make it an 80mph limit, the norm will become 90 mph won't it?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Cambrian on April 16, 2016, 08:17:36 am
I may be wrong but I thought the national 70 mph limit was introduced to reduce fuel consumption and thus "green house" gases.  I agree with the points made that drivers do exceed the legal limit so an increase will simply mean speeds of up to 90 or even 100 mph.  Surely there are road safety issues to consider. Although a Conservative proposal, I don't recall JFS having mentioned this or any public debate on the matter.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on April 16, 2016, 08:49:36 am
No - that was in the States. Our 70 limit was introduced in 1966 as a consequence of a four month experiment on the M6 in Cheshire. There were few changes in crash statistics.

It's interesting. Modern cars are inherently safer than those in 1966, but more capable of achieving 80 quickly. The thorny question of whether speed is directly related to the incidence of serious injuries in roads has never been resolved. It's not simply 'common sense' as some would contend, and poor or inadequate driving would almost certainly remain the main cause of road deaths. Most serious road injuries are sustained in 30-40mph areas, too, so I doubt there's any real answer. But the bottom line is that the A55 is an inherently dangerous road for many reasons, not least being the lack of a third lane and hard shoulder, and the frequency of lane closures, which seem to defy logic.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on April 16, 2016, 08:56:19 am
No - that was in the States. Our 70 limit was introduced in 1966 as a consequence of a four month experiment on the M6 in Cheshire. There were few changes in crash statistics.

It's interesting. Modern cars are inherently safer than those in 1966, but more capable of achieving 80 quickly. The thorny question of whether speed is directly related to the incidence of serious injuries in roads has never been resolved. It's not simply 'common sense' as some would contend, and poor or inadequate driving would almost certainly remain the main cause of road deaths. Most serious road injuries are sustained in 30-40mph areas, too, so I doubt there's any real answer. But the bottom line is that the A55 is an inherently dangerous road for many reasons, not least being the lack of a third lane and hard shoulder, and the frequency of lane closures, which seem to defy logic.


I thought it had something to do with AC Cars being caught by a national newspaper testing their Cobras on the M1 at 180mph+ in 1964, plus a spate of bad smashes in the fog on a number of motorways at the time.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Cambrian on April 16, 2016, 09:17:37 am
Thanks for the replies.  There's some interesting info under "Road speed limits in the United Kingdom" in Wikpiedia.
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Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on April 16, 2016, 10:45:18 am
Oh, yes;  I"d forgotten about the fog crashes. I seem to remember that led to the introduction of mandatory limits and separate tests for HGVs.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: snowcap on April 17, 2016, 10:47:42 pm
Your spot on as usual fester, 80,90, 100, it would,nt mean a thing to those who break the speed limit, as it,s been said the cars of today are a lot safer than in days of old, but the mentality of the drivers leave a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on April 18, 2016, 09:20:13 am
Returning from a lovely day out yesterday, upon leaving Beddgelert we were hassled constantly by drivers trying to pass on the narrow parts of the road and my OH certainly isn't a slow driver. Thus when we reached the T road to join the A5 it was no surprise to be turned back by the police who were closing the road between Capel Curig and Betwys due to a serious accident. Things were made worse by people who had no clue how to divert away from the area, as the police hadn't had time to sort out diversion signs. We set off along the A 5 towards Bangor and joined the A55 and thus home. The A55 was busy, but not massively so, but I imagine it would have got worse as time went on, because short of turning back and either going back down the Aberglaslyn Pass, or diverting onto the coast via Llanberis there is no other option.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a5-conwy-reopens-16-hours-11200447 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a5-conwy-reopens-16-hours-11200447)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on April 19, 2016, 11:01:30 am
Anyone heading round the Marine Drive.......extra care is needed as there seems to be an awful lot of cyclists round there.........some of them riding against the one-way traffic. :o
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: mull on April 19, 2016, 05:34:00 pm
It does not matter they are only idiots on bikes.
Traffic laws do not apply to them.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on April 19, 2016, 06:17:01 pm
Glad that you said that Mull. It's what I thought, but I would only have been shot down in flames if I had said it ! Well said ! ;D
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 19, 2016, 08:27:10 pm
Muppets, I ride a bike for fun sometimes, very easy to follow the roadsigns!  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 20, 2016, 12:13:28 pm
First Minister Carwyn Jones wants to let the people of North Wales rename the A55

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/first-minister-wants-a55-renamed-11211019 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/first-minister-wants-a55-renamed-11211019)

And the replies......................

Here's what you think the A55 should be called

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/heres-what-you-think-a55-11212698 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/heres-what-you-think-a55-11212698)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Blongb on April 20, 2016, 01:01:10 pm
Just goes to show how far out ot touch Carwyn Jones is with North Wales.  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on April 20, 2016, 01:34:20 pm
Roady McRoadface?

The NW car park?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 13, 2016, 09:14:17 am
A55 'performing efficiently' says special transport report.

The A55 is performing efficiently most of the time according to a specially commissioned report on transport in Wales.
The new Welsh Government needs to overhaul the way Wales decides on major transport investments, according to the report by a leading expert.
In the report Moving Wales Forward commissioned by the Federation of Small Businesses in Wales, Professor Stuart Cole concludes that Wales needs a new methodology for making decisions when it comes to transport schemes.

He found that whilst many of the businesses questioned cited issues of road congestion, official journey speed maps for Wales showed that the average speed along major routes such as the A55 were 60-70mph.

He said this suggested that the road network is performing efficiently on major routes outside of peak-time pinch points like the Britannia bridge over the Menai Strait, at Llanfairfechan and at the Ewloe (A494) and Post House/ Wrexham bypass junction (A483).

MORE   http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-performing-efficiently-says-special-11325564 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-performing-efficiently-says-special-11325564)

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 28, 2016, 11:09:45 am
This time you can't put the blame on the A55


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/can-you-believe-what-driver-11374004 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/can-you-believe-what-driver-11374004)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2016, 07:21:50 pm
Another nutter on the A55 in Colwyn Bay but will the Police follow up the bad driving and no tax or MOT on the car and therefore no valid insurance either?           &shake&



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-shocking-moment-a55-driver-11408302 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/watch-shocking-moment-a55-driver-11408302)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on June 01, 2016, 07:37:12 am
I was just wondering if they'd also do the person filming it for crimes against music...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 01, 2016, 08:16:40 am
It's a generally held misconception that not having an MOT or Road Fund Licence, or even having a defective tyre, invalidates car insurance. It does not, however, the insurance company might in some cases, only on pay out third party claims in the event of an accident.

With nearly 200,000 people injured on UK roads every year, with 1,750 deaths, I just don't believe that safety on UK roads is taken seriously. Would society accept four jumbo jets crashing in the UK every year?

Also, have you noticed the 'cash-back' schemes on small inexpensive cars like Saxo's etc? The 'cash-back' is in effect, for teenage drivers to pay for their insurance. Who are the most dangerous drivers? Plus, the lack of dedicated Road Policing Officers makes a substantial difference.

Please don't whinge to me about 'Draconian' speeding fines and penalties for poor driving, I personally would double the sentences and make them mandatory. Locally, someone with a diabolical driving record killed three people driving at 90mph in a 30 mph area well over the limit having taken drink and drugs. He was out of prison in 5 years. For killing three young people.   
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 01, 2016, 11:01:57 pm
It's a generally held misconception that not having an MOT or Road Fund Licence, or even having a defective tyre, invalidates car insurance. It does not, however, the insurance company might in some cases, only on pay out third party claims in the event of an accident.
.   

Bosun, you are quite correct on that point but I wouldn't advise anyone to put it to the test because the Insurance companies are notorious for not paying out whenever they can avoid it.
In this instance they would have had a valid reason not to.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 02, 2016, 08:20:37 am
It's a generally held misconception that not having an MOT or Road Fund Licence, or even having a defective tyre, invalidates car insurance. It does not, however, the insurance company might in some cases, only on pay out third party claims in the event of an accident.
.   

Bosun, you are quite correct on that point but I wouldn't advise anyone to put it to the test because the Insurance companies are notorious for not paying out whenever they can avoid it.
In this instance they would have had a valid reason not to.

As I said, the absence of an MOT, Road Fund Licence or a minor vehicle defect does not invalidate legitimately held insurance. It would take a major issue, of which the owner of the vehicle must have been aware, for the insurance company to invalidate a claim.

The only case that I know of personally was where a Rover steering column was repaired by the owner of the vehicle who lost the nut holding the steering wheel on. To hold the steering wheel on, he panned over the end of the steering column with a hammer. Pulling out onto a dual carriageway, (unsurprisingly) the steering wheel came off and the car veered across the carriageway and was struck by a lorry killing the female passenger. The driver was detained in hospital with a Police guard because of (understandable) threats from the passenger's family to his life. In that case, unsurprisingly, the insurance company denied the drivers claim, but paid out for third party liability.   
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 27, 2016, 04:58:59 pm
I was gobsmacked reading this, so I thought I would share my gobsmackiness with you all.     &shake&

Trailer bristling with blades that could have cut someone's legs off stopped on A55
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/trailer-blades-a55-police-llandegai-11532798 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/trailer-blades-a55-police-llandegai-11532798)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 27, 2016, 05:44:38 pm
Unbelievable! How stupid can you be to do that?  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 29, 2016, 11:18:13 am
Another 'hidden' speed camera van spotted near Glan Conwy.

The GoSafe van was spotted by a driver from Ty’n-y-Groes in the Conwy valley just after 10pm on a stretch of the A470.

It was parked at the changeover from a 60mph to 30mph zone and a spokesman for Go Safe said the vehicle was operating “within guidelines for the positioning of speed detection vans”.

“The van was parked well outside the centre of Glan Conwy at a quiet spot where there were no pedestrians and I can never remember this being a place where there have been accidents in the past.

“When they use a speed van at dusk at a point where the speed limit goes from 60mph to 30mph and there are no real safety issues you get the feeling it is more about catching out drivers than improving road safety.”

MORE and 11 comments .......  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/another-hidden-speed-camera-van-11539332 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/another-hidden-speed-camera-van-11539332)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2016, 12:18:07 pm
The horrible speed tax cameras are just out to get cash. Time to get rid of them!  $angry$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 29, 2016, 12:48:09 pm
The horrible speed tax cameras are just out to get cash. Time to get rid of them!  $angry$

Being sick and tired of lunatic drivers and the deaths and tragedy of loss of life in road accidents, I want to see more traffic law enforcement, not less. With nearly 1,713 people killed on British roads in 2013, and many more seriously injured, it time the general public realised the dangers of hurtling about in a tonne box. It's speed that kills.

Speak to a grieving mother when her child has been killed in a recklessly driven car. There are enough of those mothers locally, and you'll change your mind. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2016, 02:18:54 pm
Sorry, I will not change my mind, most collisions are not related to speed, but drivers not paying attention. Speed can be measured and taxed!

"Driver error and inattention is the most common contributory factor in UK road accidents, according to new statistics from the Department for Transport, while speed-related causes contribute to just 14 per cent of all prangs.

The DfT stats attribute 68 per cent of all road accidents to a failure to look, while in the majority (32 per cent) of fatal accidents loss of control is reported as the contributory factor.

Exceeding the speed limit is a contributory factor in five per cent of all accidents; driving too fast for conditions accounts for nine per cent. This makes exceeding the speed limit the sixth most common contributory factor.

Overall, the number of accidents in 2008 fell seven per cent from 2007, to 230,905. The number of people killed in accidents fell by 14 per cent, to 2538.

When asked if it was time to reduce the emphasis on speeding and concentrate on improving driver awareness, a DfT spokesperson said, “To help the police tackle bad driving we have proposed making careless driving a fixed-penalty offence and have also recently announced wide-ranging changes to driver testing and training, to better prepare learner drivers for the road.”

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/errors-cause-most-uk-accidents (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/errors-cause-most-uk-accidents)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on June 29, 2016, 03:25:29 pm
We apparently have the second lowest road-death rates in the world...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 29, 2016, 03:41:21 pm
And of course, drivers 'not paying attention' have just as much time to react travelling at 88ft per second as they do travelling at 29ft per second...... which has to do with - wait for it - speed.

And 'loss of control' was caused by what.....? The car being stationary? We all know people who have been involved in road collisions where they have been hit by a stationary car. Loss of control of a vehicle occurs when a vehicle is driven at an unsuitable speed for the conditions. Note the word 'speed'.

That S3 RTA 88 is to be made an FP offence will no doubt assist, but we need dedicated Road Traffic Policing to issue the FP's and enforce all traffic law. If 4 or 5 jumbo jets crashed each year in the UK with that loss of life, I doubt if it would be accepted and just put down to 'accidents'. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2016, 03:58:02 pm
We will obviously never agree on this, although I do not know anyone who has been hit by a stationary car...

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 29, 2016, 04:16:20 pm
although I do not know anyone who has been hit by a stationary car...

Sorry, my irony was wasted....

If a car is stationary and properly parked, it won't kill anyone. When it moves it travels at a certain speed and the higher that speed, the greater chance of physical injury in the event of a collision. That's why there are now many 20mph zones outside schools, as the chances of a child surviving being hit by a vehicle at 20mph is much greater than at 30mph. Therefore, it's the speed that kills. And, as I said in my previous post, a vehicle only looses control when being driven at a speed unsuitable for the conditions, regardless of the conditions. Therefore because of - speed.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 29, 2016, 04:20:39 pm
Oh I got it OK,  loss of control can be due to many things other than speed, constantly looking at a speedo is one distraction.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 29, 2016, 06:20:40 pm
Actually you are both correct, bad driving and speeding are the cause of road accidents but get a combination of bad driving and speeding and you have an accident waiting to happen.
As much as I detest them, I'm with Bosun on the speed cameras and just wish that they would use them for capturing other driving offences in addition to speeding.
Having said all that the speed cameras should be deployed sensibly and fairly.     I used to drive down the A51 in Staffordshire  and you could easily lose your licence in one day there as the speed cameras are located immediately after the speed limit has changed.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on June 29, 2016, 08:54:25 pm
Whilst I agree that driving needs to be policed it should also be policed sensibly.   The problem is not the speed, but the attention of the driver - you should be able to judge by what you see all around you - not be watching your dashboard.  However, you cannot measure driver's attention levels.

Speed does not kill by itself, there are many other factors which, when put together, are inappropriate - exceed 60mph on the A470 down the Conwy Valley on a clear, dry day and you're labelled a killer, but try driving at 29mph down Mostyn Street on a Saturday afternoon you're perfectly legal.  I know which I consider to be safer.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 29, 2016, 09:58:20 pm
To suggest that driving down Mostyn Street on a Saturday afternoon at 29mph is perfectly legal shows a complete lack of knowledge of road traffic law and the Road Traffic Act 1988 (As amended.) If, as implied, Mostyn Street was chaotically busy, there could well be an offence of S2 (Dangerous Driving) or S3 (Careless or Inconsiderate Driving.)

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: snowcap on June 29, 2016, 10:52:19 pm
I have  been caught by the speed camera and still think that it is the right thing to use to stop the clownes like me that were breaking the law by speeding, they are put there for a reason and anyone who thinks it is just for the revenue should spend some time in accident and emergancy and see the faces of people involved in speeding accidents. It,s only people who break the speed limit who need be afraid of being caught . Stay within the law and have nothing to fear, break it and take whats comming without moaning about it
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2016, 08:02:11 am
It seems we will never agree on this, I still see them as speed tax cameras!  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 30, 2016, 09:31:58 am
Taxes are in the main, unavoidable. If you decide to exceed the speed limit and put lives at risk and recieve a fine, that's your choice, your decision, therefore you voluntarily contribute. It's not a tax.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2016, 10:44:47 am
Touch wood, I have not been caught with one, but I know many who have, none of them are mad drivers, just lost on the speed tax camera lottery!  Not one of them thought it was a good thing. Meanwhile the really mad dangerous drivers seem to get away with it...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: born2run on June 30, 2016, 02:33:09 pm
I don't understand speeding, everyone speeds around to get to places quicker then someone has an accident because they are speeding then that accident closes the road and causes everyone to be caught in tailbacks for hours so people then speed to rectify the time they've just wasted sitting in a traffic jam because someone was speeding. Vicious circle if you ask me _))*
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2016, 05:23:43 pm
As I said earlier, most collisions are not caused by speeding.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 30, 2016, 08:14:15 pm


...............who was it who said 'Don't argue with idiots, they beat you with experience'?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2016, 08:17:11 pm
I knew it wold come to a comment like that! Does not bother me, I know I am right lol!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 30, 2016, 09:34:26 pm
I rest my case.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 30, 2016, 10:07:45 pm
Good!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on July 01, 2016, 07:54:47 am
Are you a follower of Safespeed.org, ME?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2016, 09:04:11 am
Was not before Ian, not seen it, looks interesting, I will have a proper look later!  $good$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on July 01, 2016, 11:27:45 am
Good!

And yet once again, the irony was lost.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2016, 12:24:48 pm
I never do any ironing Bosun!  ;D
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on July 01, 2016, 01:43:22 pm
http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/speed-camera-set-fire-close-11551464 (http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/speed-camera-set-fire-close-11551464)
Have you been here ME?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2016, 02:07:47 pm
 L0L
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on July 01, 2016, 08:50:25 pm
I never do any ironing Bosun!  ;D

That's a good thing, because if the telephone rang whilst you were ironing, you'd probably burn your ear............
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2016, 09:00:40 pm
My secretary answers the phone, no worries there!  D)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on July 01, 2016, 09:15:33 pm
There is if she is sitting on your lap......

.....or, as I suspect,  is she more like Geoff Maltby's P.A. in 'Benidorm'...........?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 01, 2016, 09:38:52 pm
Don'twatch Benidorm!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on July 03, 2016, 09:59:12 pm
Sorry ME, but on consideration, I don't think that irony is the only thing that wasted on you.  ;D
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 03, 2016, 11:08:47 pm
Not bothered what you think, so b****r off!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Fester on July 04, 2016, 12:39:19 am
Ian,  I reiterate my request for a filter facility.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 04, 2016, 03:42:13 pm
Drivers on the Black Cat roundabout did a double take this morning after spotting a boat blocking one of the lanes.

The motor cruiser had fallen off a trailer as it was being towed across the roundabout at Llandudno Junction.

No-one was hurt in the incident which caused minimal traffic disruption for around half an hour.

“Everybody was driving a little slower as I don’t think they could believe what they were seeing.”

North Wales Police did not attend the incident and the boat was placed back on the trailer at 10.43am
refDP
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on July 04, 2016, 06:41:45 pm
Police did not attend to an unsafe load? That should give hope to all, doing 55mph on the A55 through Colwyn Bay!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on July 04, 2016, 11:56:58 pm
Are you a follower of Safespeed.org, ME?

I've had a chance to look at Safespeed.org and there are similar websites giving rational explanations for advocating that Elvis is alive and well and that a higher percentage of people from Alabama than Georgia have been abducted by aliens.

Wikipedia sums up safespeed.org.uk thus:

There have been few formal studies evaluating the claims made by Safe Speed:
George Monbiot has argued that Safe Speed is much more about speed than safety,[3] and is part of a "culture of speed".[4]
The claim that "one third of road deaths are due to speed cameras" was disputed by the Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety (PACTS) and by the National Safety Camera Scheme which cite seatbelt and alcohol laws introduced prior to the 1990s, and recent increased road use and mobile phone use as better explanations for the perceived increase in casualties. Safe Speed's method of extrapolating from two years' data is also disputed.[5]
Which? magazine reported that the Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety (PACTS) and the National Safety Camera Liaison (NSCL) cite three studies which do allow for long-term trends, and which confirm the correlation between speed cameras and accident reduction. The magazine also reported that the Transport Research Laboratory (TRL) disputes Safe Speed’s interpretation of TRL 323.[5] In particular they state that the study was dependent on subjective judgements of primary cause, and that many of the other primary causes listed also implied excessive speed.[5] Other TRL studies (e.g. 421 and 511) have examined the relationship between speed and accidents and suggest a strong association. A study of over 300 roads, encompassing several hundred thousand observations, demonstrated that the higher the average speed of traffic on a given type of road, the more accidents there are. The study also demonstrated that injury accidents rise as average speed increases (if all else remains constant). (My emphasis.)

These are not opinions, they are scientific studies, the conclusion's of which are the obvious correlation between speed and accidents.

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Blongb on July 05, 2016, 08:53:24 pm
Back along I traveled up to Cairo with a Police Inspector from Ras Gharib on the Gulf of Suez. During the journey I ask him what he thought of the new high speed road that had just been completed between Suez and Hurghada. I'm delighted he said because it will make my life so much easier. From now on I shall just have to dispose of the dead bodies, instead of having to look after lots of people with minor injuries.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2016, 07:51:53 am
The chap who now looks after Safespeed.org is the same chap who programmed the titles and game graphics in the TV show, Catchphrase. I've known him for years and he's a bright bloke, but debating with him is pointless on this subject since he's convinced speed cameras cause more deaths than they prevent. When you point out to him that the stats don't support that he then argues that some abstruse mathematical method was contrived to suggest that by the Government.   
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2016, 08:59:22 am
The chap who now looks after Safespeed.org is the same chap who programmed the titles and game graphics in the TV show, Catchphrase.
I hope he's better at that than at website design. It was like going back in time to 1996.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2016, 09:05:18 am
I think it was even earlier when he did it. Wasn't it early-'90s?  Mind you, it was Paul Smith who started it, but he died.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on July 06, 2016, 09:35:54 am
I think it was even earlier when he did it. Wasn't it early-'90s?  Mind you, it was Paul Smith who started it, but he died.
The first website I designed was back in 1994, I used Netscape Composer.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on July 06, 2016, 10:51:46 am
Can't remember what I first used. But you do have the advantage of a creative and artistic mind. The Safespeed site was designed by a mathematician. But I agree it's rather tired.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on July 23, 2016, 08:46:39 am
Well, on the busiest Saturday in the year for arrivals, here's a good site to watch the A55 at various points:

http://www.tindish.com/cams/a55/ (http://www.tindish.com/cams/a55/)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 23, 2016, 10:41:53 am
A very helpful link, for those busy weekends, and checking road conditions especially in the winter.    $good$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: hollins on July 23, 2016, 10:45:38 am
That's really useful, thanks.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: hollins on July 24, 2016, 04:46:27 pm
Two speed camera vans within a few miles of each other on the A5 this afternoon.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on July 24, 2016, 07:46:25 pm
And one tonight at the Llanrwst end of the Maenan straight on the A470.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 03, 2016, 07:23:42 pm
This is what happened when a car got in the way of some double yellow lines being painted.

A driver was left scratching his head after finding out his car got in the way of some double yellow lines being painted.

The motorist was staying the night at Llandudno ’s Mostyn House Guest House and decided to park his Ford Focus on Church Walks.

But when the driver went back to his car this morning, he was gobsmacked to find double yellow lines painted right up to the front and rear tyres - with a gap where his car stood.

Bill Johnson, proprietor of Mostyn House Guest House was alerted to the bizarre scene by the guest.
More     http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-happened-car-way-double-11701213 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-happened-car-way-double-11701213)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Blongb on August 05, 2016, 08:13:10 pm
Check out the thread in What's Llandudno Like Right Now? Steve as we've got this one well covered.  $good$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 09, 2016, 11:48:19 am
Looks like the car above got off lightly..........
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 09, 2016, 04:30:40 pm
If we think that CCBC is bad when it comes to painting lines on the road, spare a thought for the residents of this street in Plymouth.      ???
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on August 09, 2016, 10:12:18 pm
I blame the second driver to park who has not used due care and attention.......there are plenty of roads were you cannot park opposite another car. Hope an emergency vehicle is not required. Would you park in a sink hole just because it has a hatched parking area painted around it?

Still blame the council for a bit of a error!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 09, 2016, 10:22:35 pm

Still blame the council for a bit of a error!

That's a bit of an understatement!       The only one at fault is the Council as both cars are parked legally so the drivers have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law.
Stupid they may be for parking like that but the law allows them to do it.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: OrmeMac on August 10, 2016, 05:09:49 pm
The only one at fault is the Council as both cars are parked legally so the drivers have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law.

But how do you know which car parked first and which was the second? Maybe we should go back to the old Mostyn Street parking system of parking on one side on odd dates and the other side on even dates...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 10, 2016, 05:44:54 pm
The only one at fault is the Council as both cars are parked legally so the drivers have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law.

But how do you know which car parked first and which was the second? Maybe we should go back to the old Mostyn Street parking system of parking on one side on odd dates and the other side on even dates...

It's irrelevant as to who parked there first, if the street is unsuitable for parking to be on both sides then only one side should be a designated parking area.
 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on August 10, 2016, 07:37:34 pm
I enclose part of the Highway Code for the purposes of those who want to park somewhere second and have highlighted the relevant items!!  (I know I passed my test first time 36 years ago, but the the rules are still the same)


242
You MUST NOT leave your vehicle or trailer in a dangerous position or where it causes any unnecessary obstruction of the road.
Laws RTA 1988, sect 22 & CUR reg 103

243
DO NOT stop or park

    near a school entrance
    anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
    at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank
    on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing
    opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
    near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
    opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
    where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
    where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
    in front of an entrance to a property
    on a bend
    where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2016, 09:07:56 am
I passed my test first time over 52 years ago and in my humble opinion good drivers and good good car parkers should not only be aware of the rules and regulations of the Highway code, they should also use common sense and show due consideration to other road users.

From the second photo there were enough clues to make it immediately obvious to me and it should also have been obvious to others that the photo had been staged.

In other words the camera man had the second car and the cyclist positioned for a more dramatic effect to highlight the stupidity of Plymouth Council.     Common sense and consideration for others should ensure that such a thing wouldn't happen in practice and hopefully Plymouth Council will rectify asap  the problem they have created
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on August 11, 2016, 10:13:50 am
The problem with common sense is that it is not always very common!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on August 11, 2016, 11:09:56 am
The problem with common sense is that it is not always very common!

How true...

If only drivers had a little more common sense, courtesy and manners the world would be a much nicer place for us all.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 11, 2016, 03:11:56 pm
Went to Aldi early yesterday and decided to park slightly away from the store having just got a new car ( for obvious reasons given the damage that a trolley can do !) Came out to an empty car park apart from myself and a silly old duffer trying to park about 2" away from me. Could you move away a little I asked, I need to open my door to get in." No why should I"he replied." Cos I'm asking you politely to let me get into my car "I said. He just sat and grinned at me, so I just said............SHIFT............ so he did.  >?>??
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 11, 2016, 04:17:48 pm
It's amazing how odd some people are. We always seek out the most deserted corner of any car park, preferring to walk a distance rather than risk the car being clobbered and its a fair bet that when we return although the car park might be close to empty some individual will be parked right next to us. Why they do it I have no idea.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2016, 06:05:08 pm
Quote
Ian....."It's amazing how odd some people are."  and Nems .....( for obvious reasons given the damage that a trolley can do !)"

I have just returned from Asda, while waiting under the canopy, I noticed a woman with a trolley with one very small carrier bag, I thought lazy person! however as she passed me, she lifted the bag out, but continued to the side pedestrian entrance pushing the empty trolley through the car park, a few feet from leaving, she heaved the trolley to the side and just let it run without a backward glance.  $angry$  not a car owner?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2016, 06:49:25 pm
Now here's a little test of our knowledge of the Highway Code and adopting common sense at the same time and is purely hypothetical and just for fun.   The scenario is the street in the smaller photo)

It's a small village where everyone knows each other and they all know and get on with the local bobby  PC Plod.

The first man arrives home from work at 7.00pm  and parks his car (that's the one on the right)  outside his house  and settles in for the evening.

At 8.00pm the second man arrives home from work ( that's the car on the left) and parks his car outside his house and opposite the other car and he also settles in for the evening

At 9.00pm   PC Plod is doing his night shift and comes across the two cars parked opposite each other  and realises that a traffic offence has been committed.   (the situation is still as shown in the smaller photo)

PC Plod has to observe the law and speak to one of the car owners but also wants to show some common sense too as he also lives in the village.

Which driver would PC Plod speak to and why and what would PC Plod do?   
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 11, 2016, 07:06:38 pm
One car is facing the 'wrong' way, so he makes the easier target :-) But if our PC is a Holmesian chap he'd check the temperature of both vehicles by touching the bonnet, then do the one that's warmest.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2016, 07:37:08 pm
That's interesting Ian, but too complicated for PC Plod
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 11, 2016, 07:54:51 pm
Quote
Ian....."It's amazing how odd some people are."  and Nems .....( for obvious reasons given the damage that a trolley can do !)"

I have just returned from Asda, while waiting under the canopy, I noticed a woman with a trolley with one very small carrier bag, I thought lazy person! however as she passed me, she lifted the bag out, but continued to the side pedestrian entrance pushing the empty trolley through the car park, a few feet from leaving, she heaved the trolley to the side and just let it run without a backward glance.  $angry$  not a car owner?

Typical of some !
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 11, 2016, 08:54:24 pm
Hugo, the left hand car is parked partially over a dropped kerb.....?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on August 11, 2016, 09:22:38 pm
Car park spaces need to be widened as cars are getting wider, but that would reduce revenue if pay and display so won't happen.

I always try and avoid parking next to a Chelsea Tractor as they take a full space with no allowance for opening doors, if I have to park next to a car I try and choose a new top of the range model as they would/should be careful with their doors!

My daughter was sitting in her car in a car park last week when another drove in and parked alongside.  Woman passenger got out and hit my daughter's car with their car door (a bit of a shed of a car).  Daughter got out to complain to woman, there was quite a scratch on daughter's car, only for the woman to tell her to "F off" and walk away.  Daughter was very tempted to key their car - took registration number but not sure of make of car and cannot trace it via DVLA website to see if was taxed/insured.  No doubt the police would not be interested so didn't take it any further - daughter's car already had a few scratches but it was the woman's attitude that caused most of the upset.  It was in Liverpool where daughter lives.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2016, 09:49:02 pm
Hugo, the left hand car is parked partially over a dropped kerb.....?

No that's not the answer Steve as a dropped kerb is not visible in the picture.   The answer is obvious when you think of it.
PC Plod must speak to the person who committed the offence but who is the offender and what is the offence and how would he deal with the matter?

Think Highway Code and common sense!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 11, 2016, 10:04:01 pm

- took registration number but not sure of make of car and cannot trace it via DVLA website to see if was taxed/insured. 

DVT,   The DVLA   has a new system for checking if the car tax has been paid.   The new system is called BETA  but in my opinion it should be called WORSA because it's rubbish in fact.
I've tried to trace cars and they are not on the BETA data base although I have photographic evidence of the cars being on the road.
I found by accident another way of checking if the car is registered and also insured so if you want to pass on any details by a PM I can have a look for you.     It will however be difficult for your daughter to claim anything from the other party without evidence  or witnesses not connected  to her.
I suppose that your daughter has a camera so that should have been used to take the relevant photos
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 12, 2016, 01:38:59 am
Hugo, how does someone manage to send you a PM?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: spotty dog on August 12, 2016, 08:27:49 am
Hugo it would appear the red car's wheel is on white line thus committing traffic offence .
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 12, 2016, 09:18:21 am
Good try Spotty Dog but it's not correct,  the answer is more obvious than that.

Cygnusx-1  will probably know the Highway Code bit, but just think what you would do if you were PC Plod.

Make it as easy as possible and cut out the paperwork that goes with the job

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 12, 2016, 10:36:48 am
Are you thinking the RH car is too close to a driveway?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 12, 2016, 10:57:35 am
No Ian.       PC Plod can be certain that one driver is committing an offence when he has started his night shift and must approach him to uphold the law.  This would solve the problem of double parking and avoid wasting his time on paperwork etc.

Which driver does he approach and what Traffic law has been broken and how would he resolve it without issuing a ticket?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on August 12, 2016, 11:17:26 am
The clue 'night shift' suggests that it is the car facing the wrong way that might be done, although he'd have to be within a certain distance of a junction.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 12, 2016, 11:48:02 am
The clue 'night shift' suggests that it is the car facing the wrong way that might be done, although he'd have to be within a certain distance of a junction.

I'm going to give you this one Ian as you spotted it straight away with your first guess.

PC Plod comes along in the evening spots the double parking obstruction but also sees that the driver on the right is illegally parked

  RULE  248
You MUST NOT park on a road at night facing against the direction of the traffic flow unless in a recognised parking space.      (That's why your car's reflectors are at the rear of the vehicle)


He knows where the driver lives and calls at his house.    He explains why the car is illegally parked and politely asks him to remove it immediately and to park it so that it is not facing the flow of oncoming traffic and
also not double parked.   He also intends to speak to the other driver when he next sees him

Knowing the Highway Code but applying common sense is a win win situation for PC Plod who has no paperwork etc to waste his valuable time and the drivers have also been educated for the future.
That's how I know the small photo has been staged and also because it happened to my Father (not the double parking bit)  over 30 years ago.

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 12, 2016, 11:11:55 pm
Now that work on the Colwyn Bay promenade has started it was good to learn that cars will not be able to park under the bridges on the short section of Marine Road.
A number of cones have been placed under the bridge so this will help do reduce bottle necks of traffic on this narrow stretch of road
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 15, 2016, 03:27:34 pm
I wonder why CCBC  chose last week to start work on the short section of Promenade in Colwyn Bay.   Perhaps the time was dictated to them by the conditions stipulated in the funding for the project or maybe it's nothing other than stupidity on the part of CCBC.
Colwyn Bay was becoming a bottleneck for traffic around midday today, Mrs H was waiting to come out of the Vet's in Abergele Road and the traffic was nose to tail and it was ages before one considerate driver let her on to the road.
By Stermats traffic can be a problem anyway, but it wasn't helped by the woman driver in front of Mrs H.   The woman was passing a parked van and hit it taking the wing mirror ofF the van and in the process damaging her car badly.
The woman then reversed and tried to overtake the parked vehicle again and hit the van harder than before and making her car look like a half opened Sardine can.  In the meantime the traffic was piling up even more!
Anyway the busier Bank Holiday isn't far away so that's something to look forward to, I don't think.
What possessed CCBC to pick the busiest time of the year to start the work, surely they could have waited 3 more weeks?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2016, 02:58:09 pm
Conwy tunnel closure chaos caused by 'major failure' and safety fears over ventilation shutdown.
The Conwy Tunnel was shut last night for over two hours following a “major failure” in the safety control systems.

The safety critical control systems at the A55 Conwy tunnel affects the tunnel’s ventilation system, lane signals, STOP gantry signage, and several monitoring and alarm systems inside the tunnel.

The Welsh Government are now investigating the incident which caused chaos on the A55 following the sudden closure of the tunnel in both directions just after 6pm.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-tunnel-closure-chaos-caused-11793225 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-tunnel-closure-chaos-caused-11793225)


'Unexplained' A55 delays are not acceptable
Traffic queues are an inevitable hassle on the A55 during the hectic summer season as the sheer volume of traffic combined with bumps and crashes brings the road to a halt.

It is never much fun being stuck in jams but there are a few factors that can make it even more frustrating.

Roadworks - especially when there doesn’t appear to be much happening behind the traffic cones - is one of those factors and the fact the A55 was built “on the cheap” means that it feels likes a continuous patching up job along the expressway.
One of those major projects has been on the Conwy Tunnels with millions of pounds invested in improving lighting and safety - causing delays to motorists on a regular basis earlier this year and back in 2013.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/unexplained-a55-delays-not-acceptable-11792068 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/unexplained-a55-delays-not-acceptable-11792068)

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Fester on August 27, 2016, 09:57:03 pm
One of those delightful gentlemen from the Charedi community took the opportunity to crash into the back of my car on my way to work today.
A lovely start to the day, which went steadily downhill from then on.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 28, 2016, 08:58:04 am
Sorry to hear that Fester, too many cars around this weekend and not enough space to park them .
Nasty smash at the top of Clement Ave yesterday afternoon. People driving too fast, a woman panicked and piled into a parked car. No one has yet returned to the parked car and found the damage which is quite extensive, but her Ford Ka looked to be a write off, the whole of the passenger side front was demolished. It was carted away on a truck. Feel sorry for the owners of the other car, don't think that they will be going far in it !
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2016, 10:03:05 am
One of those delightful gentlemen from the Charedi community took the opportunity to crash into the back of my car on my way to work today.
A lovely start to the day, which went steadily downhill from then on.

Unlucky with the car, considering they usually do not drive on the Sabbath ?.......  :(
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2016, 01:36:53 pm
Do you know if anyone left a note on the other car Nemesis to give details of the accident?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 28, 2016, 02:05:12 pm
Do you know if anyone left a note on the other car Nemesis to give details of the accident?

There were two pieces of paper under the wipers when I took the dog out last night around 11 pm. One looked to say Police at the top, but the whole set up was rather wet by then. I should imagine that it would be pulped by the later storm. The car had gone by late morning, but I'm almost certain that it would not have been drivable.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2016, 02:14:54 pm
Thanks Nemesis,  it's annoying to come back and find your car damaged with no note of explanation, but if the Police were involved the Car owner presumably would have contacted them
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 05, 2016, 11:47:29 am
A55 roundabout removal project given £34m boost
The project to replace the A55 roundabouts at Llanfairfechan and Penmaenmawr has been allocated £34m by the Welsh Government.
Under the major highways scheme, the two roundabouts will be replaced with junctions - with two years of traffic delays for drivers.
The Welsh Government previously said it hoped to start the major construction scheme in 2017, with work lasting until 2019 and causing misery for motorists.
Plans to replace A55 roundabouts at Llanfairfechan and Penmaenmawr with junctions have been put back two years.
The Welsh Government wants to remove the two roundabouts to improve safety and help traffic flows on the key route through North Wales.
They had hoped to start the two year long construction scheme in 2017 but now the projected start date is 2019.

It means living with the roundabouts for another two years but at least delays the start of traffic misery from the construction work on that stretch for thousands of drivers.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-roundabouts-stay-until-2021-11841427 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-roundabouts-stay-until-2021-11841427)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on September 05, 2016, 06:57:34 pm
Might not need to bother if the Irish traffic starts going directly to France after Brexit.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 10, 2016, 03:03:51 pm
Passing Glodaeth St. car park today, I thought it looked different, and realised there was a row of cars missing, I assume the first car in, straddled the dividing line and the rest followed, with the loss of approx. 24 spaces and fees  there are very faint markings, and definitely needs repainted.
Llandudno already struggles for parking .......... $angry$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 11, 2016, 06:32:43 pm
I was driving in my road yesterday when a car shot across from a side road and nearly hit me.  I stopped in time and thankfully so did the other guy but he seemed oblivious to what he had nearly done.
I had a car written off at the exact same  spot in 2006 when an uninsured driver did the same action so I was really angry that it nearly happened again.
If an accident had happened it would have been his word against mine but as I now have a video camera installed in the car that would have been all the evidence I needed.
My camera is visual and audio and if I had to present the evidence to the Police then I'd have to apologise in advance for my language.   
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on September 11, 2016, 09:18:54 pm
Passing Glodaeth St. car park today, I thought it looked different, and realised there was a row of cars missing, I assume the first car in, straddled the dividing line and the rest followed, with the loss of approx. 24 spaces and fees  there are very faint markings, and definitely needs repainted.
Llandudno already struggles for parking .......... $angry$

Which side of Gloddaeth did you mean? The York Road car park has recently been re-painted and the huge pot holes filled in. ( Not so the broken fencing and dangerous overhead barriers) but I imagine you mean the one in Maelgwyn Road? We locals have been haranguing the council for 12 months on the subject.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 12, 2016, 10:29:25 am
Which side of Gloddaeth did you mean? The York Road car park has recently been re-painted and the huge pot holes filled in. ( Not so the broken fencing and dangerous overhead barriers) but I imagine you mean the one in Maelgwyn Road? We locals have been haranguing the council for 12 months on the subject.
Sorry Nem, Yes I meant the Maelgwn Rd. car park, .....when I passed yesterday afternoon, there was a group of people trying to get tickets from the machine without success.  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on September 16, 2016, 03:35:01 pm
Wondered where to post this but I think in here will do. This is from our car dash cam taken on Tuesday as we passed through Glan Conwy. It's almost unbelievable but watch it until the coach comes round the narrow bend - quickly :-)

Click Here. (https://youtu.be/58_81kOYX1w)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on September 16, 2016, 03:59:39 pm
Should be displaying a red flag on it at a guess!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: majormellons on September 16, 2016, 04:39:40 pm
Some people should not be given a driving license.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 16, 2016, 05:25:12 pm
Stupid ........... How could they not see, that was going to happen, the only consolation is that they would have had one hell of a shock when those pipes? jumped in the car, very lucky not to loose control. :o
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on September 16, 2016, 06:16:47 pm
What an idiot. Surely he could have hung something on the ends of the pipes ??????
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 16, 2016, 06:48:55 pm
What an idiot. Surely he could have hung something on the ends of the pipes ??????

His neck................ :twoface:
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on September 16, 2016, 07:23:33 pm
Had he been spotted by the police he'd almost certainly have been booked. Certainly was entertaining watching him...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2016, 11:07:28 am
That road is particularly bad at that point so it's a good job that the coach driver wasn't over the line or otherwise  there could have been a serious accident.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on September 17, 2016, 06:16:27 pm
I trust you could let the Police see that ... I can make out his registration number !
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2016, 06:22:43 pm
The Police can do something about it because I've seen another clip of extremely bad driving and I think it was in the Vale of Clwyd area and the driver was prosecuted as a result
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on September 17, 2016, 06:31:54 pm
If a motorcyclist had met him the results might have been tragic.  Well, the footage is time stamped and legally admissible, according to the manufacturers, so I'll wait and see if they're interested.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2016, 11:17:40 pm
This is the incident I was referring to.


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi5y-zYtpfPAhWLCcAKHX7hA5sQFggoMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.driving.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fnicked-by-dashcam-the-in-car-cameras-turning-drivers-into-cops%2F&usg=AFQjCNHFXHb964CP-LuOdYsqoVHLwuJ_qw (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi5y-zYtpfPAhWLCcAKHX7hA5sQFggoMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.driving.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fnicked-by-dashcam-the-in-car-cameras-turning-drivers-into-cops%2F&usg=AFQjCNHFXHb964CP-LuOdYsqoVHLwuJ_qw)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2016, 09:01:40 am
Interesting.  And that guy was jailed.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on September 18, 2016, 03:33:13 pm
This afternoon a motorcyclist with an L plate went through the pedestrian crossing outside M&S when the lights were on red and I was half way across the road. There's a CCTV camera there too, hope he was clocked. It was the same person who passed us on Marine Drive earlier going at a stupid speed.He was lucky then too as there was a car blocking most of the road reversing in to the only parking spot overlooking Llys Helig.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2016, 03:59:20 pm
Police have shut the road between Glan Conwy and Tal y Cafn near Bodnant Garden

https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MjgxNDA3MjUzODAmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9T29EVi1HcFNkb0JrVFA5bTU1aTZrQSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=28140725380&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&ck=a79ace657fb364d3ba57698e15f06a86
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 01, 2016, 05:10:30 pm
Photo re Hugo's last post ...........
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on October 01, 2016, 06:42:42 pm
Do we know the exact location, Steve?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2016, 06:57:19 pm
I could be wrong Ian, but it looks like just before  the bend when you turn left towards Bodnant  (going from Glan Conwy )
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on October 01, 2016, 07:51:46 pm
Hugo, you are more or less right. We went past about 3.30pm, the police were still there but the vehicles involved had been removed. It was just on the Glan Conwy side before the turn left to the Gardens.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on October 02, 2016, 08:18:19 am
Thanks.  Many drivers take that bend too quickly, I've noticed, and combined with cars attempting to leave Bodnant and the village I'm not really surprised. Another nasty one in Llandudno, according to BBC.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 02, 2016, 08:40:56 am
It looks like it was a bad crash with a number of people injured

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/five-hospitalised-after-conwy-a470-11966098 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/five-hospitalised-after-conwy-a470-11966098)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 11, 2016, 04:13:43 pm
Pump prices are on the rise and set to jump 5p a litre by the end of the month, warn retailers.
Prices are already edging up in the region with drivers reporting that some Tesco forecourts had put prices up a penny a litre overnight.
Now there is a warning that this is the start of rising prices with the potential of an extra 5p on a litre by the end of October.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fuel-prices-rising-set-increase-12007346#rlabs=1%20rt (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/fuel-prices-rising-set-increase-12007346#rlabs=1%20rt)$category%20p$2
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on October 11, 2016, 06:23:49 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-37610818 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-37610818)

I'm Speechless ! :-X
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 17, 2016, 07:50:20 am
Police encourage the public to submit "dashcam" evidence


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37672104 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37672104)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2016, 01:06:18 pm
I went to Llandudno today and found out that the Llandudno Road section by The Llandrillo Tech College is closed.  I don't know how long the road will be closed for while the resurfacing goes on.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 24, 2016, 02:56:18 pm
It is the same either side of the Links roundabout, Hugo.

I suppose if these jobs have to be done then doing them during half term holiday should ease the problem around both Coleg Llandrillo and Ysgol Craigydon.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2016, 03:13:58 pm
Thanks for that info Bri as I wasn't aware of it.    $good$

It makes sense to plan the work in those areas around the half term holiday.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on October 24, 2016, 03:59:00 pm
The signs have been up at Llandrillo College for about 3 weeks but are no help if you are not a regular user of that stretch but I will avoid The Links roundabout now I know about it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 31, 2016, 02:50:28 pm
There are traffic lights at the top of Kings Drive in Colwyn Bay and a 3 way light system is in operation.   Parking of the vehicles doing the work is thoughtless at its best and plain stupid at its worst.
A bus turning to the right at the top of the hill was blocked in and when I returned uphill the bus was still stuck with vehicles having to turn left and go up St Andrews road instead.
I then found that my way was blocked by two vehicles parked alongside each other and the driver seemed oblivious to the fact that he was causing an obstruction and only moved when i beckoned him to do so.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 27, 2016, 04:32:56 pm
The other day at about 3.00 pm,  I was travelling from Llandudno to Colwyn Bay and the traffic had stopped in Brompton Avenue about 300 yards from the big roundabout.
The school run and the one way system along Colwyn Bay promenade combined to make it virtual gridlock.  The traffic did move albeit very slowly but I felt sorry for the drivers in the side roads as no one was allowing them to get into Brompton Avenue.
If anyone has to drive that way it's best to avoid that time of day if possible.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on November 27, 2016, 05:18:54 pm
Do not tell anyone but  I leave Llandudno at about 5:00pm each weekday and have used DInerth Road to get to the West End and find it much quicker proving no one is actually sitting on the mini roundabout when the lights are on red. It would help if no cars were parked on Conway  Road at the West End so that cars could pass those wanting to turn right into KIngs Road......if that idea is used I want to claim the usual consultancy fee+Vat!

PS....keep the escape route a secret or I will get very annoyed if I am delayed.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on November 28, 2016, 10:51:35 am
Do not tell anyone but  I leave Llandudno at about 5:00pm each weekday and have used DInerth Road to get to the West End and find it much quicker proving no one is actually sitting on the mini roundabout when the lights are on red. It would help if no cars were parked on Conway  Road at the West End so that cars could pass those wanting to turn right into KIngs Road......if that idea is used I want to claim the usual consultancy fee+Vat!

PS....keep the escape route a secret or I will get very annoyed if I am delayed.
Good plan, it's a nightmare in the West End at the moment with the prom closed.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: born2run on November 28, 2016, 11:24:11 am
It's become a lot easier to park in Llandudno town in the past few weeks. Got spots right where we needed to be in Mostyn Street and Madoc street lots of times, used to be impossible even at this time of year. Perhaps people doing more shopping at the retail parks and not town?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on November 28, 2016, 11:24:58 am
...or the internet.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: born2run on November 28, 2016, 12:44:09 pm
That's true. I saw loads of adverts for black friday that Amazon were reducing their fire sticks to £25 but had no idea I could also pick them up from Currys for the same price
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Fester on November 28, 2016, 03:24:53 pm
It's become a lot easier to park in Llandudno town in the past few weeks. Got spots right where we needed to be in Mostyn Street and Madoc street lots of times, used to be impossible even at this time of year. Perhaps people doing more shopping at the retail parks and not town?

...Or even on the pier!
What I mean is, I never open my pier shop at this time of year, because I realised about 5 years ago that anyone doing any Xmas shopping wouldn't dream of walking half a mile out to sea. (I know I wouldn't)
But, on Saturday, I popped on there to meet a customer and I ended up staying there for four hours!
I was pretty much raking it in, so much so that I opened again on Sunday.
It was pleasing, but so much at odds with what happened in the past, I'll not dare risk it again.


Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2017, 05:12:48 pm
The road conditions on the West Shore were perfect today but our attention was focused on a car being driven very slowly down the middle of the road.    It was only when the car passed us that we could see the reason why he was driving so slowly, he was busy texting on his phone.
He was completely oblivious to the car driving up behind him and he carried on driving for a great distance before he pulled in.

He was completely irresponsible with his driving and as his MOT had expired on 15th Nov 2016 I wonder what would have happened if he had been involved in a car crash.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on January 04, 2017, 05:56:37 pm
I followed a slow moving car through Deganwy later this afternoon. He appeared to be setting his sat nav.
Btw how did you find out about the expired MOT?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2017, 07:03:54 pm
Put " Car tax checker" into Google then go into the  DVLA site that appears.    If you put the registration number and make in, it will give you the info.

The DVLA has a new systen called Beta which is unfortunate as it is much worse than the previous system, if I can't find the vehicle there I use another website
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on January 05, 2017, 05:02:32 pm
Put " Car tax checker" into Google then go into the  DVLA site that appears.    If you put the registration number and make in, it will give you the info.

The DVLA has a new systen called Beta which is unfortunate as it is much worse than the previous system, if I can't find the vehicle there I use another website

Didn't know that!
I have just checked a couple of my old cars to find out where they are now, well if they are still on the road. Interesting that my last one, a 9 year old VW Passat Diesel with 180,000 on the clock, and which I was advised was too expensive to keep maintaining, is still going strong 5 years later. It went to auction somewhere when I traded it in. I was sorry to see it go , especially as I'd hoped to take it to the magic 250,000 mile mark.
Probably made it now.
Probably has 78,000 on the clock too. :o :o
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 05, 2017, 06:18:50 pm
The road conditions on the West Shore were perfect today but our attention was focused on a car being driven very slowly down the middle of the road.    It was only when the car passed us that we could see the reason why he was driving so slowly, he was busy texting on his phone.
He was completely oblivious to the car driving up behind him and he carried on driving for a great distance before he pulled in.

He was completely irresponsible with his driving and as his MOT had expired on 15th Nov 2016 I wonder what would have happened if he had been involved in a car crash.

I was walking round the edge of the rougher car park by the beach café at West Shore on Saturday and was nearly sideswiped by a blue Renault. As he lurched round in a circle, over the grassy bank and round I saw why. A small child was sitting on the driver's knee and steering. How stupid can some people be?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on January 05, 2017, 06:22:09 pm
How long have you got?  :'(
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 05, 2017, 10:28:14 pm
If texting and using the mobile phone while driving is as dangerous as drink driving and this is what the authorities are saying, then why aren't the penalties the same?
It should be an automatic driving ban for anyone using a mobile phone.   I don't think that the Police are doing enough to stamp out this practise. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 08, 2017, 05:08:03 pm
Is this the most selfish parking in N Wales?


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MjkxNjA5MDQ1NjQmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9bWV2SkN1V2Y0anJPMlJjZGFjNXF0dyZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=29160904564&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&ck=a22f759b76c3117f468df2e5da62b0b3
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on January 08, 2017, 08:49:45 pm
Well the other 2 cars are up to the white line in their spaces so the lady may have been blocked on both sides if cars in the next spaces parked to the white line.
Personally....I would have gone further away and walked a few yards.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on January 08, 2017, 09:24:09 pm
Well the other 2 cars are up to the white line in their spaces so the lady may have been blocked on both sides if cars in the next spaces parked to the white line.
Personally....I would have gone further away and walked a few yards.


Lady??? Where does it state it was a lady Mr Misogynist?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on January 09, 2017, 08:45:22 am
Parking spaces in the UK are notoriously undersized, both for the increasing size of cars and the general level of driver competence. We always park well away from other cars and walk to the shop. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 09, 2017, 09:14:50 am
You are bang on with the undersizied car parking spaces Ian and the Morrison Car Park in Colwyn Bay is notorious for that.    One woman driver (sorry SDQ)   did £300.00 worth of damage to my car  when she drove in to the parking space next to mine.    Then she drove off without leaving her details.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on January 09, 2017, 11:37:13 am
Thought someone would fall for my error.......restores my faith in human nature  $good$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 09, 2017, 04:51:16 pm
Put " Car tax checker" into Google then go into the  DVLA site that appears.    If you put the registration number and make in, it will give you the info.

The DVLA has a new systen called Beta which is unfortunate as it is much worse than the previous system, if I can't find the vehicle there I use another website



Just as a matter of curiosity I asked the DVLA about a car that was not on their data base but appeared on Halford's data base and this is the reply I got:-

"I am sorry, we are unable to confirm whether a vehicle is still in existence or not.

If you would like to find out this information you would need to do a 'car history check' this would be through a third party company, you can find more information online."

Since the car tax discs have been abolished just how many cars are being driven that are untaxed?      If the DVLA doesn't know about the vehicle then who does.




 

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on January 09, 2017, 06:09:07 pm
Put " Car tax checker" into Google then go into the  DVLA site that appears.    If you put the registration number and make in, it will give you the info.

The DVLA has a new systen called Beta which is unfortunate as it is much worse than the previous system, if I can't find the vehicle there I use another website



Just as a matter of curiosity I asked the DVLA about a car that was not on their data base but appeared on Halford's data base and this is the reply I got:-

"I am sorry, we are unable to confirm whether a vehicle is still in existence or not.

If you would like to find out this information you would need to do a 'car history check' this would be through a third party company, you can find more information online."

Since the car tax discs have been abolished just how many cars are being driven that are untaxed?      If the DVLA doesn't know about the vehicle then who does.


You have to have the vehicle make as well as registration to do the check. You can't just put a number in for some reason.
If it's on Halford's database is it a recent visit or going back some time? If the car had transferred the number plate that might be a reason for you not finding it.
I put in a car make and reg on one that I had up to 1987. According to the DVLA it was last taxed up to some date in 1999 which would assume it was scrapped then.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on January 09, 2017, 06:23:51 pm
Possibly to do with Data protection.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 09, 2017, 10:24:01 pm
I've put the reg, make and model in and found it on their records but to find out if it is taxed or MOT'd  I would have to pay a fee and I'm not prepared to do that.
That info should be held by the DVLA anyway and not by a private firm.

I think that the DVLA's action in abolishing road tax discs has been false economy and it has backfired on them and now there are many motorists driving around without tax or insurance.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 10, 2017, 11:16:20 am
I put in a car make and reg on one that I had up to 1987. According to the DVLA it was last taxed up to some date in 1999 which would assume it was scrapped then.


Dave,  I scrapped my car about two years ago and the scrap yard has to notify the DVLA when the car is scrapped and that way the DVLA has a full history of the vehicle.
The new data base that the DVLA has is called BETA and it's worse than the one before.   I have checked for an untaxed vehicle before and there is no trace of that vehicle on the new system even though that vehicle can be seen on the road quite often.

My curiosity in this case is only because I saw Police Traffic Officers on TV and wasn't impressed with their questioning when they stopped a motorist who had committed a road traffic offence.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: OrmeMac on January 10, 2017, 02:21:19 pm
The new data base that the DVLA has is called BETA and it's worse than the one before.

BETA is usually just a term used for computing applications that are still in a testing phase. They reckon they are good enough to be used but may have some errors that need to be corrected further down the line. If you have come across any issues you should let them know in the hope they can be corrected in the final (release) version. (An ALPHA release is usually so bug ridden it is only used and tested internally)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 10, 2017, 04:52:49 pm
Thanks for that info OrmeMac and I have given the DVLA some feedback on their system.     :-[

It'll be interesting to see whether there will be any improvement in the system, only time will tell.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on January 10, 2017, 07:05:51 pm
Just to prove I am impartial regarding peoples parking habits.......look were this bloke broke down(?) yesterday lunch time! :o
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: OrmeMac on January 11, 2017, 11:09:03 am
A long way from the Three Towns Area (Kirkcaldy in Fife, Scotland to be exact) but hopefully worth sharing anyway. Oh and I don't know if it was a male or female driver!

How about this for parking in a railway station car park?

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/345806/video-double-decker-car-pile-kirkcaldy-train-station/ (https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/345806/video-double-decker-car-pile-kirkcaldy-train-station/)





Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on January 11, 2017, 11:20:43 am
Interesting...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on January 11, 2017, 11:51:27 am
Couldn't read it. Clicked the link and it just gave me options to subscribe to the paper.
Tried a second time & it says I've reached the maximum of free views!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: OrmeMac on January 11, 2017, 12:08:07 pm
Couldn't read it. Clicked the link and it just gave me options to subscribe to the paper.
Tried a second time & it says I've reached the maximum of free views!

The article said:

Parking attendants have been left dumbfounded by a Mazda MX-6 parked on top of a Volkswagen Golf at Kirkcaldy train station.

A leaflet asking the driver of the Mazda to contact Police Scotland was left under the windscreen, while a sign reading ‘Parking out of bays is an offence’ was toppled directly beside the scene.

Police have confirmed that nobody was injured and an investigation is under way.

As one of the few free remaining parking places in Kirkcaldy town centre, the railway station car park offers highly coveted space for commuters.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 11, 2017, 01:10:20 pm
They share the parking fee between them........ ;)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2017, 01:18:19 pm
Police convoys
Don’t be alarmed if you spot police motorcades in North Wales today - there’s convoy training taking place this week.ref DP
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on January 17, 2017, 04:59:36 pm
Police convoys
Don’t be alarmed if you spot police motorcades in North Wales today - there’s convoy training taking place this week.ref DP


Saw one this morning, I guessed it was a training exercise.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 17, 2017, 10:15:13 pm
Nine weeks of more delay on the A55


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MjkyNjUzNTk5NzYmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9YlpsUy1TbEMwNTFUZEhBU0xEVVpJUSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=29265359976&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&ck=c1008fe91221c83583fd0e804291d50f
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: born2run on January 20, 2017, 02:02:29 pm
On my run today I noticed a sign on the flashy board thing of the A55 "WARNING, ANIMALS ON THE CARRIAGEWAY"

What's that about? I thought as soon as a creature wondered onto the road it was mown down by NW Police like a scene from death race 2000?

I don't know why I bother paying my council tax, hopefully the police will dispatch a uniformed joy rider out ASAP to squash these errant creatures.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on January 20, 2017, 04:21:18 pm

I don't know why I bother paying my council tax, hopefully the police will dispatch a uniformed joy rider out ASAP to squash these errant creatures.

In that case B2R, be careful on your run......
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 29, 2017, 04:13:19 pm
More bad parking and some of them are inexcusable


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-parking-car-tastrophes-12517556 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-parking-car-tastrophes-12517556)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: mull on January 29, 2017, 06:43:14 pm
Why are the licence plates blanked out ?
Name and shame I say.
Title: Re: Road conditions
Post by: SteveH on February 07, 2017, 11:20:21 am
I found this article interesting and enlightening.....

When you walk or drive in the UK, you’re being nudged by dozens of hidden messages embedded in the roads and pavements.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170206-the-tricks-being-played-on-you-by-uk-roads (http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170206-the-tricks-being-played-on-you-by-uk-roads)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: hollins on February 07, 2017, 01:51:11 pm
Drove into Manchester this morning and thank goodness I checked the oracle (Tom) before I left because once again he has saved me hours of queuing on the A55. I saw that it was closed at Flint so I had a very pleasant drive via Mold instead. Thanks again Tom!

I also noticed this morning that the BBC are doing away with their travel news page this month as part of their attempts to save money.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Tom Davidson on February 07, 2017, 03:17:31 pm
Just be careful Hollins as I don't work every day (as much as Trinity Mirror might want me too!). I'm on earlies this week so should have any traffic info in the mornings.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 07, 2017, 10:34:48 pm
Dashcam footage has been helpful to the Police and this report may encourage others to report instances of bad driving on the roads


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38884645 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38884645)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 12, 2017, 05:13:39 pm
Yesterday I was returning home on the A470 from Betws Y Coed  in a line of traffic and twice I was overtaken by cars who had overtaken 2 or three cars behind me and then they pulled up in front of me braking hard and causing me to do the same.
Luckily I had left sufficient room and no accident was caused.
Within minutes they were off again doing the same thing and not indicating while overtaking either.
I've got a dashcam on the car I was driving which is handy in case I need evidence  but my language on it would be unprintable.      :-[
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 13, 2017, 04:31:50 pm
Car's front end split in two by lamp post in Llandudno crash
The vehicle, driven by an elderly man, smashed into a lamp post close to Asda in Mostyn Broadway this afternoon.
The front of the car was severely damaged in the accident.
The driver, an elderly man, was given a check up but did not require hospital treatment.

Video
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-asda-crash-car-bonnet-12598429 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-asda-crash-car-bonnet-12598429)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Quiggs on February 14, 2017, 03:20:28 pm
Quite impressed by the strength of the lamp post, I often thought they looked a little flimsy
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 14, 2017, 04:16:14 pm
Quite impressed by the strength of the lamp post, I often thought they looked a little flimsy

I thought the same myself, considering it was a BMW, also it must have been moving fast and that area is quite built up?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 14, 2017, 04:56:14 pm
It was luck no one was passing by as there would have been a serious injury there.     I've seen damage to railings and lamp posts caused by other drivers and wondered who pays for that damage.
Would Asda make a claim through that driver's insurance policy?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: norman08 on February 14, 2017, 08:38:54 pm
It's still baffeling me how it got there ,that is not a lamppost it is the camera post ,the great daily post reporting it was on the main road oops .
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SDQ on February 14, 2017, 09:44:13 pm
Quite impressed by the strength of the lamp post, I often thought they looked a little flimsy

I thought the same myself, considering it was a BMW, also it must have been moving fast and that area is quite built up?


Modern cars are very 'soft' at the front and designed to just collapse in a collision so if a person is hit by the vehicle they have a better chance of survival.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 01, 2017, 11:55:36 am
It's a step in the right direction but it should be similar to those people caught drink driving and anyone using a hand held mobile phone while driving should be banned automatically.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39118523 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39118523)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 05, 2017, 01:04:15 pm
Just as well that I didn't go to the steam railway gala in Llangollen as I would have gone that way to get there.


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-snow-hits-wrexham-denbighshire-12694228 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-snow-hits-wrexham-denbighshire-12694228)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 05, 2017, 04:55:57 pm
The family arrived for the day and said that they had been in 2 minds about carrying on the snow was so heavy.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 06, 2017, 08:56:20 am
It took 4 1/2 hours to make the return journey as they hit rain, snow and standing traffic on the M60. Not to be recommended with a 4 year old !
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 06, 2017, 09:09:57 am
That's a scary journey Nemesis but at least they all got home safe and sound in the end.    $good$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on March 07, 2017, 09:18:57 am
Although I have done quite a few miles in the north recently, it's not often that I venture south of the West Midlands, but went I drove to 'sarff' London last week and was shocked at the state of the roads in the south. You had to actively dodge the potholes (a dangerous enough action in itself) to avoid buckling a rim (or braking an alloy) and these were not confined to 'B' roads, 'A' roads and motorway surfaces were awful in some places with large holes right on the driving line. They would be killers for motor-cyclists, I was glad my biking days are over. One particular hole on a right hand bend just outside Hatfield right in the nearside tyre line could have taken a standard sized bucket.

I'm glad to say that the roads in the north are just one of the multitude of things that are better than the south...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 08, 2017, 08:22:28 pm
Helmet cam captures van hitting motor biker.     With the standard of driving nowadays a camera can capture an accident and prove who was at fault.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39203190 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39203190)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on March 09, 2017, 08:20:17 am
There was a collision yesterday (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39211121) between a child cyclist and a minibus on the road between Trefriw and Crafnant. The child had to be airlifted to Liverpool.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DaveR on March 09, 2017, 09:39:20 am
There was a collision yesterday (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39211121) between a child cyclist and a minibus on the road between Trefriw and Crafnant. The child had to be airlifted to Liverpool.
As much as I love walking around Crafnant, I hate that road up to it. You can almost guarantee you will meet a car or van at one of the narrow bits, inevitably someone who cant reverse properly...
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 09, 2017, 11:29:35 am
We have for years given people printed instructions on how to visit the Welsh Lakes. In large red letters on each sheet are the words
IF YOU ARE NOT A CONFIDENT DRIVER, OR CANNOT REVERSE FOR 100 YARDS, PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE THESE ROADS.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 09, 2017, 11:41:55 am
We have for years given people printed instructions on how to visit the Welsh Lakes. In large red letters on each sheet are the words
IF YOU ARE NOT A CONFIDENT DRIVER, OR CANNOT REVERSE FOR 100 YARDS, PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE THESE ROADS.

That would make a good road sign Nem.  $good$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 09, 2017, 02:38:13 pm
Good idea Steve H.

You would be amazed at how our Welsh roads frighten some people. Especially those from the flatter areas of Gt. Britain.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 18, 2017, 09:02:49 am
Traffic jam hotspots in Llandudno will be tackled amid fears that the arrival of Primark and Wilco will spark gridlock.

The peak time problems around the Parc Llandudno and Mostyn Champneys retail parks cause congestion on one of the key entrance and exit roads to Llandudno.

A spokeswoman for Conwy council said: “We will be carrying out a number of improvements to traffic management in Llandudno this year,
    Removal of signal control from Charlotte Road onto Conway Road, with new zebra crossing.

■ Changes to Parc Llandudno/Asda junction including rephasing of lights, to increase junction capacity.

■ Improvements to Charlotte Road/Mostyn Broadway junction to improve visibility and provide defined left and right turn lanes.

“We are also working on longer term improvements to the Mostyn Street/Vaughan Street junction at North Western Gardens (subject to funding).”
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/llandudnos-primark-traffic-gridlock-fears-12754930 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/llandudnos-primark-traffic-gridlock-fears-12754930)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: norman08 on March 18, 2017, 10:21:17 am
Gareth Owen has been banging his head about this for a few years now ,doing away with the traffic light and putting a zebra crossing wow it's death trying to cross that road as it is ,going to be very interesting.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on March 19, 2017, 03:41:39 pm
Ed Hillier, MD Mostyn's, has been telling CCBC to solve the problem, which 'he believes can be done simply and quickly'. He's been telling them for five years, and I know similar comments have been made on here for at least four years. CCBC really do excel in the utter incompetence department.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 19, 2017, 04:02:59 pm
If my memory serves me right local people were telling CCBC about the problems that would arise  long before it was set out and I've a feeling that Mostyn Estates were in favour of it at the time, possibly because they had a lot to gain from the lay out.

It's strange how people change their mind when it suits them as a few years ago Mr Hillier was suggesting a tram line from the Railway Station along Mostyn Broadway to Bodafon Fields.    $hands$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on March 19, 2017, 04:23:30 pm
Me and Mrs R regularly walk into Llandudno from the Links roundabout on the McDonalds side of the road.

Whilst I appreciate the current traffic light problems, we actually rely on the lights because when they change to red for the cars exiting Mostyn Champneys, we are able to cross safely (providing all cars immediately stop when the lights begin to change).

It is unclear if the new pedestrian crossing will be across Charlotte Road or across Conway Road towards Staples.

When one walks across the entrance to Mostyn Champneys, one cannot always see over the McDonalds hedge and Charlotte Road bends from the traffic lights back up towards that mini roundabout.

I also use the gym above the swimming pool and it surprising to witness how dangerous it can be watching pedestrians crossing from the rear of Currys over to the bus stop on Mostyn Broadway.

The existing pedestrian crossing further down outside the swimming pool is not entirely safe and is another issue that requires addressing.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on March 19, 2017, 06:46:55 pm
I do think trams would be a great asset to the area, Hugo.  It's the novelty factor.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area......... 13 mile traffic jam A55
Post by: SteveH on March 26, 2017, 06:28:05 pm
I hope you are all sitting comfortably at home........

Live: A55 drivers trapped in 13-MILE traffic jam amid roadworks chaos

Huge queues have formed from J16 Dwygyfylchi to J23 Llanddulas

Avoid the area if you can, says police officer
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-drivers-trapped-13-12800176 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-drivers-trapped-13-12800176)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 26, 2017, 06:41:41 pm
We drove up the A470 around 4. 30 pm and the traffic was solid stretching back from Black Cat almost to St David's. The A 55 was at a standstill.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on March 28, 2017, 03:41:30 pm
Wonder if the CCBC councillor describing the WA's highways departmental planning as 'incompetent' was a case of the kettle calling the Sosban Fach?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 28, 2017, 04:23:26 pm
I experienced the delays first hand yesterday, returning from Manchester airport , very frustrating, even taking the detour round Abergele, it added an hour to the journey.

Heres another story from Tom D.
A55 traffic queues for miles as 'ridiculous' Welsh Government carries out rush hour census
Motorists were left furious as the census caused severe delays on the eastbound carriageway around the Britannia Bridge.

Comments below article...
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-traffic-queues-miles-ridiculous-12806781 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-traffic-queues-miles-ridiculous-12806781)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 28, 2017, 04:32:31 pm
Why didn't they do the census with the traffic already held up in the Colwyn Bay roadworks queues? I bet they received some very interesting answers to their census!  &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 28, 2017, 07:52:58 pm
I had the misfortune to be stuck in the westbound lane of the A55 today just past Llanddulas but it was nothing like the delay on Sunday.   My friend was travelling from Llandudno to Colwyn Bay and it took him 1hr  25 mins to do the journey on Sunday.   Unfortunately he didn't take the route past Geordies to the Crem but he'll know for next time.
Why did they pick Mothering Sunday to do it?    The manager of the Mulberry in Conwy was on the TV and they lost thousands of pounds in bookings.    People coming to the place were stuck in traffic as were a number of the staff and it was a fiasco that could have been avoided
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on March 29, 2017, 07:27:32 am
It's all to do with thoughtlessness, incompetence and stupidity - qualities that seem to abound in anything to do with roads. Not terribly different in fact, from one day a few years back, when CCBC (?) decided to cut the grass on the Black Cat roundabout. Nothing wrong with that in principle, except they decided to start the job, which entailed closing a lane,  at 0800 on a Wednesday. The tailbacks are still the stuff of legend. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 29, 2017, 06:37:45 pm
No more roadworks on the A55 after Easter!          &shake&


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/a55-roadworks-banned-easter-autumn-12805758 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/a55-roadworks-banned-easter-autumn-12805758)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 30, 2017, 07:23:26 pm
I had to go into Colwyn Bay at about 4.15 pm today and it was a nightmare.   The traffic was nose to tail all along Conwy Road and Abergele Road and barely moving.      It must be a nightmare there at the moment especially at times of  the school run
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on March 31, 2017, 09:24:33 am
OMG I have people coming today, I have warned them about the hold ups, but most folk from away seem to think that we are making too much of it ! I shall boil the kettle and cut the lemon cake about midnight ! :-X
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on March 31, 2017, 10:50:35 am
Traffic flowing as normal through the Conwy tunnels this morning. A little work still on the slip roads at jnt 18
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 31, 2017, 02:22:13 pm
Sooner or later car manufacturers will have dash cameras as an additional option when they buy new cars.    This morning I was driving down my road doing about 20 mph when a dark coloured Audi estate car crossed over a give way  T junction and had to do a very quick emergency stop to avoid crashing into me.
If the road conditions were wet or icy even and if I had of been driving faster then a collision would have been inevitable.    When I looked at the replay on my dash camera it was pretty scary but at least I had the evidence on camera.
At that same spot in 2006 I had another car written off when an uninsured driver did the same thing but wasn't able to stop in time.
If a crash happens again then I'll just call the Police
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 31, 2017, 03:08:21 pm
send it to the police or council maybe that junction needs a stop sign instead of give way.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 31, 2017, 06:33:49 pm
Thanks Steve, I'll have a think about that.    I have in the past complained about it and had the CCBC  official and local Councillor there in the past but the CCBC official was adamant that a stop sign was not needed even though there are near misses on it every single day.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 31, 2017, 06:53:49 pm
A55 roadworks at Conwy tunnel finish on time but Old Colwyn misery to continue until next week.

“We recently suffered a significant partial failure of a bridge joint just west of Llanddulas. We have had to put together an emergency package of works to minimise the impact on the A55 should that joint fail completely,” said Mr Skates, “we are installing a full central reserve crossover at Rainbow Bridge”.
Headded: “The crossover works, which are being carried out to a really challenging programme by local contractors, will be complete by Wednesday April 5 at the latest. The works cannot be removed at the weekend because it is just too unsafe to leave a gap of over 200 metres in the central reserve.”

Mr Skates went on to warn people that there will be delays on the road over the weekend,“as the works will continue over the forthcoming weekend we are extending messages across the border to warn motorists to allow extra time for their journeys.”
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-conwy-tunnel-finish-12828654 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-conwy-tunnel-finish-12828654)

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 02, 2017, 11:09:32 pm
Another bad Sunday for traffic queues in Colwyn Bay

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-traffic-queues-six-hours-12835295 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-traffic-queues-six-hours-12835295)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on April 03, 2017, 07:14:22 am
A Ken Skates said "The works cannot be removed at the weekend because it is too unsafe to leave a gap of over 200 metres in the central reserve.".

I'm not entirely clear on this: I presume by that he means there would be no barrier between reservations? But that's exactly how dual carriageways used to be. I can still remember the arguments when safety campaigners were calling for them to be fitted for all dual carriageways and the same officials saying it would be too costly.

It's a matter of risk: we need to know how many vehicles have crashed into the safety barrier in that 200m stretch over the last five years (I'm guessing very few). Place a 40mph temporary limit on the stretch and I would seriously doubt there would be an issue. And when 60mph  roads everywhere don't even have a barrier, what on Earth is stopping them taking a pragmatic approach?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 03, 2017, 09:15:23 am
Ian, I thought exactly the same! Perhaps there is a law that prevents it?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on April 03, 2017, 11:06:47 am
In the WA and Scottish Highway regulations manual it says this:

"2.1 There are many definitions of hazard and risk; for the purpose of this Standard, the following definitions shall be used.

HAZARD: A hazard is a feature (e.g. embankment) or object (e.g. lighting column) that can cause harm or loss. Harm or loss can be physical, financial or economic, strategic, or be time-based, or any combination of these.
RISK: A risk is the chance, high or low, that somebody or something will be harmed by the hazard.

2.2 In general terms, in this Road Restraint Systems (RRS) Standard, risk can further be described as the likelihood of the hazard being reached or hit by an errant vehicle (chance) multiplied by the resulting consequence if the hazard is reached or hit (harm). The hazard may be within or beyond the highway boundary. A risk may also occur if a hazard that is hit by an errant vehicle falls, or becomes detached and forms a projectile, and causes an injury to Others or causes further damage. The consequence may, for example, be: injury to an occupant of the errant vehicle; temporary loss of a strategic installation; adverse affect on Others; etc."

Clear as mud, as you'd imagine.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 03, 2017, 01:10:54 pm
After installing the central reservation barriers someone must have come up with a brilliant idea.

A55 £5m emergency crossing points used JUST ONCE in 18 months




https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiYgNCMoIjTAhVMKsAKHfrbBQ8QFghOMAk&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.janetfinchsaunders.org.uk%2Fnews%2Fa55-ps5m-emergency-crossing-points-used-just-once-18-months&usg=AFQjCNGdf0Et4bUOnjstLcom3V1GljwiSg (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiYgNCMoIjTAhVMKsAKHfrbBQ8QFghOMAk&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.janetfinchsaunders.org.uk%2Fnews%2Fa55-ps5m-emergency-crossing-points-used-just-once-18-months&usg=AFQjCNGdf0Et4bUOnjstLcom3V1GljwiSg)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on April 03, 2017, 02:18:34 pm
Coming soon to the A55  :)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on April 03, 2017, 02:42:50 pm
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Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on April 04, 2017, 08:47:19 am
I have driven through the road-works at Rainbow Bridge several times over the past week or so, and one of the issues exacerbating the traffic congestion is the apparent inability for British traffic to 'use both lanes', despite the road signs telling drivers to do just that in order to 'merge in turn' or 'stich'. It's common sensible practice elsewhere in the world, but misunderstood in this country.

Do we actually love queuing that much?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on April 04, 2017, 09:10:34 am
... and if you do try driving in the right-hand lane slowly overtaking the queue in the left lane, someone will pull out to block your way but not advance, so causing more congestion.

... wonder how bad it'll be next year when they work on the bridge over the quarry conveyor belt, which is why they're creating the cross-over now.  I'm sure that work will take some time with only one carriageway operating at any one time.

... don;t know when it's planned for but Easter onwards would probably be the best time to create as much havoc as possible!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on April 05, 2017, 04:12:22 pm
Private hire drivers are not generally known for their good driving manners or skills, but Interlink Taxi drivers have to get top marks for their poor driving standards.  Do they get special training in rudeness and aggressive driving or are they specially selected for having those attributes?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 06, 2017, 01:03:35 pm
The 70 year old woman needed surgery after being struck by the vehicle and the driver left the scene before the Police arrived.   It shouldn't be hard to trace the driver with all the CCTV cameras in the area but I wonder how the Police will treat this incident.
It made me think of the incident with the horse and rider being hit by a motorist on Sychnant Pass Road.   The driver there left the scene before the Police arrived so they weren't able to carry out any breathalyser or drug test on the driver.
The horse was killed and the horse rider was extremely lucky not to have had serious injuries but what did the Police do?
They decided not to prosecute the driver, will they do it again?


http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/174625/appeal-for-witnesses-after-a-70-year-old-woman-is-struck-by-vehicle-outside-llandudno-hospital.aspx#.WOYr1RybkG4.email (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/174625/appeal-for-witnesses-after-a-70-year-old-woman-is-struck-by-vehicle-outside-llandudno-hospital.aspx#.WOYr1RybkG4.email)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 07, 2017, 10:31:17 am
I've been looking for a follow up to that accident that happened on Friday 24th March 2017 but can find nothing in the local papers.   It did say that the Police are appealing for the woman driver to come forward and hand herself in.      &shake&
I'm starting to wonder what resources the Police have put in trying to find the driver.
The chances are that the person is from the local area and there should be CCTV footage of that area and in nearby streets and it wouldn't take that long to see the car.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 08, 2017, 12:17:58 pm
Roadworks on Colwyn Bay promenade that have caused a headache for motorists and businesses will be lifted for two weeks.
Conwy council is undertaking a major seafront redevelopment to improve the condition of coastal waterfront defenses.
It has seen the road blocked between Victoria Pier and the Marine Road junction and a one way system between that junction and the Cayley Embankment which has caused traffic mayhem at busy times of the day.

due to re-open to two-way traffic for the fortnight’s Easter holidays between 7 and 24 April.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/nightmare-seafront-roadworks-colwyn-bay-12862609 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/nightmare-seafront-roadworks-colwyn-bay-12862609)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Nemesis on April 08, 2017, 05:44:27 pm
Quite congested around that area this morning.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on April 08, 2017, 09:21:40 pm
Is it really open or not?
I drove this evening along the Cayley prom and could get no further than the Toad. Had to turn right and go up to Princes Drive, turn left and past the station.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 08, 2017, 10:44:56 pm
That's as far as you can go now, all they have done is to make that stretch two way instead of a one way system going in the direction to Rhos on Sea.
At least it should help with the bottleneck at Colwyn Bay's West End.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 10, 2017, 03:30:49 pm
Road closure in Colwyn Bay

Queens Drive, Colwyn Bay will be closed to vehicles for three days next week, from 18 April to 20 April 2017.

Queen’s Drive will be closed from its junction with Lansdowne Road to the NLR Church entrance.

The closure is for work to be carried out on the new Coed Pella office development site.ref DP
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 11, 2017, 04:12:01 pm
This is unbelievable ....This is the incredible moment that a drunken mother lost control of her car and sent it flying into the air, while her baby son was in the backseat - and all caught on dashcam.
Video.... http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/dashcam-captures-drunk-mothers-car-12878685 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/dashcam-captures-drunk-mothers-car-12878685)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 11, 2017, 05:17:00 pm
That was a really disturbing video Steve and a miracle that no one was seriously hurt in that accident.    It's a shame that the sentences were concurrent as she deserves to spend longer in prison for that action.
Again a dash cam has helped the Police in this case of dangerous driving.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on April 14, 2017, 11:30:00 am
Despite the gloomy forecast the A55 Cameras are showing some heavy traffic heading towards us.

http://www.tindish.com/cams/a55/ (http://www.tindish.com/cams/a55/)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 14, 2017, 11:49:42 am
It was nice to see that footage Ian but I'm staying put until after Easter Monday and certainly will keep away from Llandudno  until next Thursday at least.
With regard to the traffic problem caused by the work on the Castle Hotel, a  spokesman for Bowmer & Kirkland said the company would do "everything it could" to reopen all roads before 28 April.
I hope that happens because the Victorian Extravaganza is the next big event in the town

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on April 14, 2017, 12:38:46 pm
I noticed this morning that the cones have been replaced outside the Tudno Castle stopping traffic from Vaughan Street crossing over to Vaughan Street thus giving priority to traffic exiting Llandudno from Mostyn Street.

The cones are accompanied by a couple of no entry signs secured with sandbags so I cannot see them being moved over again like yesterday.

The traffic from Vaughan Street is being diverted down Mostyn Street once again but, unfortunately, for visitors the diversions are not signposted again to inform them they can turn into Clomnel Street, St George's Place or North Parade.

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 20, 2017, 01:28:16 pm
I was driving along the A470 from Llandudno to Glan Conwy Corner and just past the round about by Narrow Lane the traffic had come to a halt. I waited about 10 minutes and with hardly any movement going on,  I did a U turn and went down Narrow Lane to the round about.
I was then able to see the reason for the hold up, the Police and Ambulances were there so there had obviously been a crash somewhere near the junction with the round about.
I just hope that the accident wasn't too serious and that no one was hurt in it.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 20, 2017, 05:18:57 pm
I was driving along the A470 from Llandudno to Glan Conwy Corner and just past the round about by Narrow Lane the traffic had come to a halt. I waited about 10 minutes and with hardly any movement going on,  I did a U turn and went down Narrow Lane to the round about.
I was then able to see the reason for the hold up, the Police and Ambulances were there so there had obviously been a crash somewhere near the junction with the round about.
I just hope that the accident wasn't too serious and that no one was hurt in it.
I got caught in that hold up, very slow traffic, but kept moving,  it cleared as I reached the roundabout, the wooden fence on the left was smashed, presumably part of the scene.
While moving forward slowly, I noticed out of the corner of my eye, a vehicle overtaking me, my usual reaction, started to kick in, .... XXXXX  ... fortunately it did not,.....it was a hearse, unusually in a hurry.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on May 05, 2017, 04:35:31 pm
Today at lunchtime - westbound A494 onto the A55, a Tony Doyle Meats van (complete with personalised plate).....

.....and the driver texting.

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 12, 2017, 04:30:25 pm
If anyone is going to St Asaph from the Talardy roundabout on the A55 be prepared for long delays as road works are ongoing in The Roe.  On Wednesday we were stuck on the roundabout for a while and then decided to go back along the A55 and go to Trefnant through the St Asaph Industrial Park instead.
A friend of mine did the journey yesterday and said that it was horrendous and that the works may be going on for another three weeks
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 13, 2017, 04:43:05 pm
Serious accident on the A470 blocks the road

https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzA1NTU3MjYxMjgmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9NFJfNVlJZVVXTE42SDJ5UmZhOS1UQSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=30555726128&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=d894bc9dc982d6bef96aa4313e298311
Title: parking meters in llandudno
Post by: barry b on May 15, 2017, 08:38:43 am
got a bit confusing yesterday when trying to park near the pier--parking machines at the moment dont take the new pound coins-- i needed £3 and had 1 old pound coin and one £2 coin but there was no info on which coins the meter took-anybody got any info?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on May 15, 2017, 12:21:14 pm
Hi Barry B,
We have two similar machines at Holy Trinity Church, supplied and maintained by the same company i.e. Metric of Swindon. The company up-graded our machines as long ago as last September to accept both old and new £1 coins. In addition our machines accept £2 coins and others down to 5p.
I would have thought the Council ones probably do too.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: barry b on May 20, 2017, 12:02:39 pm
thanks for the info-on the day i visited i needed to get close to the water to launch my kayak- didnt want too long a carry
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 21, 2017, 11:00:44 pm
There is a campaign to cut horse and rider deaths, but are the Police doing enough to prosecute offending drivers?        In the Sychnant Pass incident last year a driver killed a horse and the horse rider was lucky that she didn't sustain serious injuries.   The driver also left the scene before the Police arrived and then the Police decided not to prosecute the driver



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-39991077 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-39991077)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-39720754 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-39720754)





Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on May 22, 2017, 02:35:50 am
There is a campaign to cut horse and rider deaths, but are the Police doing enough to prosecute offending drivers?        In the Sychnant Pass incident last year a driver killed a horse and the horse rider was lucky that she didn't sustain serious injuries.   The driver also left the scene before the Police arrived and then the Police decided not to prosecute the driver



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-39991077 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-39991077)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-39720754 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-39720754)

Hugo, I entirely agree with your sentiments, but, remember, its the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) that make the decision as to whether to prosecute, not the Police, and unless they think that there is a 75% chance of a conviction, (they call it 'a realistic chance')  they will not prosecute. This is wrong on a number of levels - firstly that cases are decided as to whether they are prosecuted or not by a Civil Service department that is more interested in the success of it's own conviction rate than justice and secondly, the standard of quality of CPS solicitors and personnel in general is pretty woeful. If a solicitor is of any competence, he will not be working for the CPS, but out in private practice milking the legal system.     
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 22, 2017, 08:56:50 am
Bosun,  I've got nothing but admiration for the Police in the job they do and realise that sometimes their hands are tied by procedure but sometimes I think that justice only comes at a price.
I've been a victim of such a decision but in a more minor way.    My car was damaged in a parking space, the incident was caught on CCTV and a witness left a note on my car and was also seen on CCTV.   In addition the lady driver's red BMW had left paint marks all over my car.
The Police told me that they would not take any further action against the driver and would not test the red paint which would have given them irrefutable proof of the accident.
I had to accept their decision but wasn't  prepared to let her get away with it and instructed my insurance company to prosecute her and I came to a settlement with the insurance company so I wasn't out of pocket
I hope that that lady rider did something similar as her incident was so traumatic for her
Title: Re: parking meters in llandudno
Post by: DaveR on May 22, 2017, 09:24:17 am
got a bit confusing yesterday when trying to park near the pier--parking machines at the moment dont take the new pound coins-- i needed £3 and had 1 old pound coin and one £2 coin but there was no info on which coins the meter took-anybody got any info?
Once again, the level of CCBC incompetence is breathtaking. The launch of the new £1 coin was flagged months in advance, there is no excuse for this.  &shake&

On a more positive note, the promenade gardens are looking great this year, a lot of work has gone into getting them looking smart. Well done to the gardeners involved!  $good$
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on May 22, 2017, 09:41:01 am
Bosun,  I've got nothing but admiration for the Police in the job they do and realise that sometimes their hands are tied by procedure but sometimes I think that justice only comes at a price.
I've been a victim of such a decision but in a more minor way.    My car was damaged in a parking space, the incident was caught on CCTV and a witness left a note on my car and was also seen on CCTV.   In addition the lady driver's red BMW had left paint marks all over my car.
The Police told me that they would not take any further action against the driver and would not test the red paint which would have given them irrefutable proof of the accident.
I had to accept their decision but wasn't  prepared to let her get away with it and instructed my insurance company to prosecute her and I came to a settlement with the insurance company so I wasn't out of pocket
I hope that that lady rider did something similar as her incident was so traumatic for her

Hugo, the circumstances and decision that you describe are completely wrong, they set an appalling standard. But I have to ask, who made that decision? I would suggest that it was some clerk or PCSO, I'd be utterly appalled if it was a decision by a real Officer. And, I would have referred it to the Professional Standards Department for an explanation. But, it is the way things are going. I was in Liverpool recently and there were two girls who looked the age of schoolgirls in the fourth form. They were dressed in all the Police kit, the stab resistant vests, speed cuffs, radios etc and high vis vests with 'PCSO' on the back above large letters saying 'TRAFFIC OFFICER'. I complained to them about a badly parked car that was blocking me in. They looked completely dumbstruck and utterly at a loss. They had no idea what to do. It also turned out that neither of them could even drive.....

 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on May 22, 2017, 10:46:05 am
I was in Liverpool recently and there were two girls who looked the age of schoolgirls in the fourth form.

There weren't any parties going on at the time, were there?  WWW WWW WWW
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 22, 2017, 12:06:42 pm
Bosun,  I wasn't too happy with the decision, especially after the Police Constable didn't interview the woman under caution but it was a Sergeant who advised me of the decision.
I told him that I wasn't happy with the way the investigation had gone and he asked me if I wanted to make a complaint but I said no because I thought that my incident was trivial compared to what else  is going on in the area now.


Another incident that occurred in March of this year when a 70 year old lady was hit by a car on a zebra crossing at Llandudno Hospital makes me wonder what the Police priorities are.

The Police are asking the woman hit and run driver to hand herself in!     &shake&

The Police have the exact time and location of the incident, a description of a small maroon coloured car and the description of the woman driver and all the CCTV evidence they  need to trace the hit and run driver and yet they can't find her.
She's probably local and Llandudno is not exactly a heavily populated area so why can't they find the driver.    If it was advertised on social media then I'm sure that they would get some useful leads in tracing the woman.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on May 22, 2017, 02:19:08 pm
Bosun,  I wasn't too happy with the decision, especially after the Police Constable didn't interview the woman under caution but it was a Sergeant who advised me of the decision.
I told him that I wasn't happy with the way the investigation had gone and he asked me if I wanted to make a complaint but I said no because I thought that my incident was trivial compared to what else  is going on in the area now.


Another incident that occurred in March of this year when a 70 year old lady was hit by a car on a zebra crossing at Llandudno Hospital makes me wonder what the Police priorities are.

The Police are asking the woman hit and run driver to hand herself in!     &shake&

The Police have the exact time and location of the incident, a description of a small maroon coloured car and the description of the woman driver and all the CCTV evidence they  need to trace the hit and run driver and yet they can't find her.
She's probably local and Llandudno is not exactly a heavily populated area so why can't they find the driver.    If it was advertised on social media then I'm sure that they would get some useful leads in tracing the woman.

This is not good news about the Policing of the area. Yet, in another strand of this forum, there is praise for the zero tolerance of anti-social behaviour in Llandudno. The 'zero-tolerance' Policing system works, and should be in place across the board - not just for certain types of offence.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bosun on May 22, 2017, 02:20:36 pm
I was in Liverpool recently and there were two girls who looked the age of schoolgirls in the fourth form.

There weren't any parties going on at the time, were there?  WWW WWW WWW

Actually, they would have made lovely strip-o-gram girls.........  :P
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 22, 2017, 04:06:45 pm
There were about 2 or 3 Police cars in attendance at what looked to be a car crash in Gloddaeth Avenue by the cross roads with Arfon Avenue and Deganwy Avenue.
No ambulances on the scene so I hope that no one was badly injured as a result of the crash
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 22, 2017, 04:32:12 pm
There were about 2 or 3 Police cars in attendance at what looked to be a car crash in Gloddaeth Avenue by the cross roads with Arfon Avenue and Deganwy Avenue.
No ambulances on the scene so I hope that no one was badly injured as a result of the crash

Llandudno crash
The ambulance service are aware of the crash on Deganwy Avenue but have been told by police they are not required and there are no injuries. REF DP

Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 22, 2017, 08:13:11 pm
Thanks Steve, it's not nice seeing any crash but it's good to know that the people involved are not badly injured.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on May 30, 2017, 05:17:09 pm
More fascinating examples from our dashcam of utter stupidity and incompetence. As we leave the A470 Llandudno stretch to navigate the roundabout towards Glan Conwy take note of the Audi A4 coming off the A55.  I'm going to pass this one to the boys in blue, because idiots like that need dealing with. Note the lack of signals, the lack of a RH rear brake light, the breathtaking incompetence of turning right from the left hand lane and of course their registration No: C2 CGB.

https://youtu.be/l9RI14sOhTM
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 30, 2017, 05:45:28 pm
Good for you Ian and the Police are encouraging people to report bad driving to them.      $good$

I have a dash cam in my red car but not in the white car but after an experience last week I'm seriously thinking of getting one for that car too.
Last week I was driving my car down Lansdowne Road in Colwyn Bay and there are two sections of it where you have to drive very carefully as cars are parked along one side of the road and there is only room for one line of traffic to pass.
There were two vehicles coming towards me so I stopped and let them come through.    There were no other vehicles following so I drove down that part of the road and was about half way through it when a large white van approaching from the next section drove straight at me and actually accelerated towards me.  Just before any impact, he swerved onto the pavement and then drove along the pavement before going back on to the road.
Unfortunately I had no dash cam in that car or otherwise I would have reported him to the Police, the incident was too quick to take his registration down and there were no markings on the van to identify it.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on May 30, 2017, 11:05:28 pm
Coming down Penrhyn Hill to the roundabout that is another place and there is a sign on the hill to help you choose the correct lane.....you would be off my Christmas card list if you reported it as it was hardly dangerous just poor. The driver behind is usually blamed if a collision occurs as you cannot see everthing behind you.
.Let us know how it goes!




Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on May 31, 2017, 08:48:37 am
I must admit I don't think there is much in that piece of video that warrants sending it to the police and if you did I would doubt they would take it any further. The car was indicating left presumably as he'd seen the sign on the A55 for Betws. If he wasn't expecting that short stretch to the roundabout and trying to figure out which way he was going he didn't have much time to decide and that's presumably why he cut across you and you were probably in his/her blindspot.
Yes, it was a poor manoeuvre but you see far worse on a regular basis and if everyone starts sending in footage when they have suffered a minor irritation the police will be overwhelmed.
Defensive driving is the answer but there is often a lack of awareness by many drivers.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2017, 09:54:34 am
I agree you see far worse. I doubt the police will prosecute, in fact; all I suspect is needed is for an officer to call round and have a chat with the driver. Education is often the best way forward and if more of these incidents are sent in (which the police are encouraging) then more drivers might become aware that they risk being filmed every time they do something stupid and it might make them think more carefully.

But it;'s interesting:  when I posted the first example I'd captured, last year, of a bloke driving with a length of drain pipe sticking out of the rear passenger window, I was being berated for not sending it to the police. Seems there's quite a division on what constitutes dangerous driving.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 03, 2017, 02:16:47 pm
A55 closed due to Police incident at Bodelwyddan


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-40144671 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-40144671)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 03, 2017, 03:07:23 pm
A55 closed due to Police incident at Bodelwyddan
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-40144671 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-40144671)
H., A bit more info from the DP.

"Woman threatening to jump off bridge
Multiple witnesses now getting in touch to say a woman is sat on the edge of a bridge. The bridge is located at the turn-off for Ysbyty Glan Clywd I’m told."

This has been going on since 11.30am, the Live report shows people out of their cars, line dancing and playing ball games !
LIVE REPORT....  http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-closed-bodelwyddan-police-13132408 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-closed-bodelwyddan-police-13132408)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on June 03, 2017, 04:54:52 pm
Incident now brought to safe conclusion. Road to open shortly.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on June 03, 2017, 05:45:06 pm
We were caught up in the traffic coming from Tatton Park, amazing how one person can cause so much chaos !
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on June 03, 2017, 06:11:39 pm
Daughter left Llandudno just before three o'clock and has arrived home in Liverpool just over three hours later - usually takes less than half that time.  Was not much fun with a screaming one-year-old wanting his feed. 
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 22, 2017, 08:01:45 am
More bad driving on the A470



https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzA5Nzc1NDM5NzQmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9VHV3WXZ6U0gzczcwYnhfcVhxN0plUSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=30977543974&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=075e7347a325ee39470c0bc9e8406e47
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on June 22, 2017, 08:37:55 am
Idiot ... seems to be a non-British plate SAJDEVA (or should it be SA10 EVA ?) but I cannot make out the country in the left-hand bit of the plate.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Quiggs on June 23, 2017, 08:01:32 pm
I think that 'S' plates are from Scotland, and the 'A' could be Aberdeen??
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on June 23, 2017, 10:23:46 pm
You would be correct in saying it is a Scottish plate if it was SA, but it doesn't look like a UK plate to me as it seems to be all letters SAJDEVA or has been doctored in some way if it is SA10 EVA or SA11 EVA, in which case the spacing is incorrect as well.  I cannot make out the country in the blue section left-hand of the number plate.

SA10EVA does not come up on the DVLA car check but SA11EVA does - it is a white Vauxhall!

Being a foreign visitor does not give an excuse for such driving, but could make it difficult for the Police to take action.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 25, 2017, 03:59:42 pm
There was a cycle race on part of the A470  today and drivers just had to be patient and overtake the cyclist when it was safe to do so but all it would take is one impatient driver to cause carnage on the road.
On my way back from Maenan Abbey there was one such stupid driver in a  white Audi behind me and he overtook me on a short straight stretch that was approaching a bad bend and as he pulled in after overtaking me, two Police Cars travelling in the opposite direction and with their lights and sirens going came around the blind bend.
One second later then there would have been carnage on the road.
Another time if those Police cars had not been in  hot pursuit of something they would have turned around and caught up with him.
By the time I got to Bodnant, he was the car just in front of me!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 26, 2017, 12:10:27 pm
I don't know whether it was part of the 30K cycle race or not but in Tal Y Bont yesterday on the other side of the river there was a collision between a car and a cyclist and the cyclist was taken to hospital by the air ambulance
I'm unaware of the extent of his injuries but those roads on both sides of the river are dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians alike
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 26, 2017, 02:02:34 pm
I don't know whether it was part of the 30K cycle race or not but in Tal Y Bont yesterday on the other side of the river there was a collision between a car and a cyclist and the cyclist was taken to hospital by the air ambulance
I'm unaware of the extent of his injuries but those roads on both sides of the river are dangerous to cyclists and pedestrians alike

Not much info, but I think this is your collision ........http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/cyclist-airlifted-hospital-after-conwy-13233773#ICID=IYA (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/cyclist-airlifted-hospital-after-conwy-13233773#ICID=IYA)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 26, 2017, 03:25:23 pm
That's the one Steve, let's hope that the injuries are no too serious.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Bellringer on June 26, 2017, 05:19:04 pm
The Talybont incident happened on Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 26, 2017, 05:21:41 pm
Thanks Bellringer, I've not heard any more about that accident so perhaps no news is good news?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 27, 2017, 07:06:26 am
I'll chase more information today.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on June 27, 2017, 11:59:50 am
The bloke is a 52 year old builder frm Colwyn Bay. who has broken.ribs and head injuries but was wearing.a helmet. Who gave the info. "A man in his 30s"?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 27, 2017, 07:07:04 pm
Thanks very much for the update on the cyclist, it's a good job that he was wearing a helmet or the injuries may have been far worse.
When I saw the cycle race on Sunday I did fear for their safety on that dangerous road and there is no way on earth I would ride along that road.
The idiot who overtook me coming up to a blind bend nearly had a head on crash with a Police Car coming around the corner and equally there could have been a cyclist or pedestrian around the corner too.       &shake&
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Tom Davidson on June 28, 2017, 08:05:03 am
I wasn't working this weekend but that information will have been provided by the emergency services, most likely the ambulance service.
Title: Re: Road's
Post by: SteveH on July 11, 2017, 01:51:23 pm
Harrowing dashcam footage of moment lorry driver wiped out a family
This distressing video issued by the police with agreement by the family shows how using a mobile phone behind the wheel can have devastating consequences.

The harrowing footage shows the moment that a driver took his attention off the road, and in an instant snuffed out the lives of a mother and her three young children.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/harrowing-dashcam-footage-moment-lorry-13312932 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/harrowing-dashcam-footage-moment-lorry-13312932)
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 13, 2017, 03:22:31 pm
I was looking for the posting by DVT of a car parked on a pavement in Llandudno Junction but unfortunately couldn't find it so I'm posting it on here instead.
This afternoon I was driving along Penrhyn Road Colwyn Bay and saw some atrocious parking.  Quite often vehicles double park but this was inexcusable.   I drove around the town and the car was still parked at an angle so I thought that I'd take a photo and then the old duffer came out of the building society and just drove off apparently oblivious to any other road user.
Where are the Traffic Wardens?
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on July 13, 2017, 05:35:15 pm
I often moan about cyclists not using cycle paths when they are available - one notable place being the main road through Llandudno Junction - there is a cycle path on the pavement past the garages (Ford, Audi, Mercedes, etc).

However, of late I note there are a number of cars parked on the pavement between the Audi/Mercedes garage and the entrance to Richard Williams Heavy side.  So the cyclists cannot use the cycle path even if they were inclined to do so!  Also makes it difficult for pedestrians.

Also Narrow Lane between Richard Williams Wood side and the entrance to the Welsh Assembly has a line of parked cars every night ... and they are almost all newish Audis - I wonder whose they are!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Moelycrio on July 14, 2017, 05:17:09 pm
I often moan about cyclists not using cycle paths when they are available - one notable place being the main road through Llandudno Junction - there is a cycle path on the pavement past the garages (Ford, Audi, Mercedes, etc).
The cyclepath that goes all the way from the roundabout to the err .......builders merchants? And puts cyclists into conflict at 2 additional points over and above staying on the road? Thanks all the same!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: DVT on July 14, 2017, 11:26:30 pm
I fully agree that the cycle path near the Audi garage is totally pointless and I really wonder who designed it s d whether or not there was any input from someone with common sense.

However, the cycle path under the A55 nearby is sensible provided cyclists wait for the road to be clear before ccrossing traffic.  Family type cyclists use it but often the lycra clad brigade seem to forget they're on two wheels and not in a car.


Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on July 19, 2017, 08:54:43 am
I wasn't sure where to post this as it's off road, car parking.
Taking a walk on the cycle path yesterday I noticed the Conwy Council warden speaking to motorhome owners parked in the Llanddulas car parks who each departed afterwards. Not sure if they were booked or not as I later spotted this very small and recently erected sign.
Now we all have our views on "wild camping" as it's called and the promenades of Llandudno and Colwyn Bay as well as the car parks are places where the ban should be enforced but surely it's a bit harsh to stop access at mid day to someone staying legitimately in a proper campsite.
Do we really want to persecute tourists to the point of them not coming back?
Incidentally, the person illegally asleep in his deckchair was thankfully overlooked.

oh, and so was the ice cream van which presumably has a special licence.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 19, 2017, 02:57:23 pm
I agree with the points that you are making Dave but I wonder what the CCBC Warden would have done if there had been troublesome travellers there instead of genuine holiday makers?
One rule for one and another for those that don't abide by the rules anyway.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Quiggs on July 19, 2017, 03:51:46 pm
I have cycled for many years and still do at 77 yrs of age. I find the so called cycle ways totally inappropriate as I often exceed 15 mph, to do so on a path with pedestrians would be irresponsible, so I use the roads, although the 'Black Cat' roundabout is a little daunting.  *cycle* *cycle*
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 19, 2017, 06:18:05 pm
Quiggs,  I dare you to do 15 mph on the West Shore cycle track.  West shore car park to the Black Rocks and back.               *tumble*
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Quiggs on July 19, 2017, 08:49:23 pm
Another reason not to use 'Cycle Tracks'.  :D
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 20, 2017, 05:17:03 pm
Not exactly road conditions but parking in Morrisons in Colwyn Bay today.     Parking is difficult anyway in Morrisons car park as the spaces are small but it's not helped when you have very bad and inconsiderate parking such as this.
If anyone wants to draw attention to such bad parking they should ensure that the car is properly taxed and MOT'd  but according to the DVLA this BMW's  MOT expired on 17th June 2017
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on July 20, 2017, 05:40:12 pm
Whenever your on the cycle track be aware of 'works vehicles' which have had to reverse into the out lane to park at Rainbow Bridge!
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 20, 2017, 11:10:41 pm
Not exactly road conditions but parking in Morrisons in Colwyn Bay today.     Parking is difficult anyway in Morrisons car park as the spaces are small but it's not helped when you have very bad and inconsiderate parking such as this.
If anyone wants to draw attention to such bad parking they should ensure that the car is properly taxed and MOT'd  but according to the DVLA this BMW's  MOT expired on 17th June 2017

Just checked again and the DVLA  records have now been updated and the MOT has been done and now expires on 12th Nov 2017   $good$

Perhaps the owner will pay more attention to dates and especially to their parking in the future
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on July 21, 2017, 06:33:10 am
I'm puzzled by the mot, had run out on 17th June, but now runs until 12th November?  Awful parking though!

Just checked, still not mot'ed

Check the MOT history of a vehicle
Registration number: RA53KRO
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Vehicle makeBMW Vehicle model530 Date first used29 October 2003 Fuel typeDiesel ColourBlue
 
MOT history of this vehicle
Test date15 June 2016 Expiry date17 June 2017 Test ResultPass Odometer reading99,562 miles MOT test number3557 2989 9218 Advisory notice item(s)
Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)
Offside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)
oil leak in engine
Test date15 June 2016 Test ResultFail Odometer reading99,562 miles MOT test number1411 5489 3527 Reason(s) for failure
Front Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (8.2.3)
Tyre pressure monitoring system warning lamp indicates a fault (4.1.D.4)
Advisory notice item(s)
Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)
Offside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)
oil leak in engine
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 21, 2017, 09:00:48 am
ME you are spot on with that and when I checked again with the DVLA  the MOT  is still out of date and expired on the 17th June 2017.
I don't know what I must have checked last night but thanks very much for pointing that out.
Because of the new system with road tax not being transferred to the new owner of the vehicle this type of thing can happen quite often but it is not an excuse for driving illegally.
I hope that the owner realises this before they are reported to the Police.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Dave on July 21, 2017, 09:09:53 am
No excuse for having an illegal car on the road but the original photo was more about inconsiderate parking. To be fair there appeared to be plenty of spare spaces and few cars at the time the photo was taken but of course it depends on how long the owner intended staying.
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 21, 2017, 10:44:21 am
I was there for quite a while and other cars came and went but the lines are there for a purpose for all users,     The length of time anyone intends to be in the parking area is irrelevant, it's lazy, selfish and at it's worst suggests that the driver's ability to park properly  is limited
Title: Re: Road conditions in the area
Post by: Ian on July 28, 2017, 08:56:14 am
There's some major work taking place on the A470 just before you reach Plas Maenan.  There's single line escorted traffic for about a quarter of a mile. They've been working overnight so it might be finished soon, and seems to be a water issue.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 19, 2017, 12:26:50 pm
More problems on the A470 between Betws Y Coed and Llanrwst


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzE1NjYwNDE0MzMmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9RGQxQUhXeVlteDlhWHF2NXdQc1d6dyZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=31566041433&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=ab1bf881b6e0d196cebda54792f35a50
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: TELL on August 21, 2017, 02:54:07 pm
An enjoyable moment this morning. It really annoys me when self-important selfish drivers come charging down the outside - right turn lane - of Conway Road then either try to cut in on the Links roundabout and carry straight on, or go right round it. This morning a hatchback tried to cut across me on the roundabout but forgot the white van in front of him and ploughed into the back of it. The van driver was a big chap and didnt look full of bonhomie when he got out. Made my day!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 21, 2017, 02:58:04 pm
The problem is that it's not obvious to visitors that it is a right turn lane until you're rather close to the roundabout.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 21, 2017, 06:33:23 pm
Good to hear that accepting dash-cam footage from the public by the police is now being extended Wales-wide.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 21, 2017, 06:56:36 pm
I saw that on the news Ian and it's a good thing, recently two cars have come out of a road junction and I've had to break sharply to avoid a collision.
Only last night I was talking to my wife about having one in our second car and I'd have no hesitation of passing the footage on.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Quiggs on August 22, 2017, 04:12:16 pm
I have a Dashcam and found it also has the added advantage of making you conscious of your own driving, knowing that it is being recorded  &shake&
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on August 23, 2017, 09:16:31 am
There's a bit of a yes and no in this one for me. Last Saturday I drove to Liverpool for the match. On the way and while driving up Rhuallt Hill, a notorious accident blackspot, a Volvo Estate swung from the outside lane across to the inside lane of three, undertaking a row of around half a dozen cars which had correctly moved in to the middle lane pre emptying a very slow lorry up ahead. At great speed the Volvo just managed to squeeze through the gap between two cars but went right across in to the fast lane causing mayhem in it's wake. A case worth sending to the police for sure.
On the way back, I irritated a driver by edging in front of him in a queue for the toll booth at the Mersey Tunnel. It was something everybody has to do in the chaos at peak times but this guy took exception and hurled abuse at me. I ignored him but on leaving the pay booth I noticed him coming up fast behind me in the 50mph zone and I wondered if he would deliberately try to cut in front of me.  I deliberately moved in to the outside lane of two to prevent that possibility and continued alongside another car going at the legal limit of 50mph. He started giving me the usual signs to which I now responded with a shrug of "What's the problem?"
Yes, I know, igniting the flames. He however got out his mobile phone and started to film me. Why I don't know as if he sent it to the police it's an endorsable offence using a phone whilst driving.
I hope he does!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 23, 2017, 09:30:58 am
Trouble with cities is you can never be sure exactly who you've upset, until they stop you and approach with a baseball bat.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: TheMedz on August 28, 2017, 08:24:17 am
Following on from yesterday's afternoon Trams and cars gridlock at Black Gate on the Orme it will be worth avoiding the junction today if at all possible.
The traffic light sequence seems to have changed giving priority to going across the junction rather than the usual priority given to those going up and down the Orme. The result is cars always having to wait on red coming up Ty Gwyn Road. Oh the sweet aroma of burning clutches.

I rang it in to the emergency roads number yesterday evening and they said they would try and get someone out this morning.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 28, 2017, 09:52:24 am
A milk tanker overturned yesterday on a roundabout near Bangor. A number of local residents helped with the clean up in a couple of shakes. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on August 28, 2017, 06:18:16 pm
Following on from yesterday's afternoon Trams and cars gridlock at Black Gate on the Orme it will be worth avoiding the junction today if at all possible.
The traffic light sequence seems to have changed giving priority to going across the junction rather than the usual priority given to those going up and down the Orme. The result is cars always having to wait on red coming up Ty Gwyn Road. Oh the sweet aroma of burning clutches.

I rang it in to the emergency roads number yesterday evening and they said they would try and get someone out this morning.

Medz, I had to travel into town to meet customers about 4 times on Sunday, it was utter chaos at Black Gate every time.  Some idiotic drivers made it even worse.
I reckon the cost of my petrol, plus the crazy amount of time it took to get up and down yesterday left me out of pocket.  It was madness.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DaveR on August 29, 2017, 09:37:55 am
Following on from yesterday's afternoon Trams and cars gridlock at Black Gate on the Orme it will be worth avoiding the junction today if at all possible.
The traffic light sequence seems to have changed giving priority to going across the junction rather than the usual priority given to those going up and down the Orme. The result is cars always having to wait on red coming up Ty Gwyn Road. Oh the sweet aroma of burning clutches.

I rang it in to the emergency roads number yesterday evening and they said they would try and get someone out this morning.

Medz, I had to travel into town to meet customers about 4 times on Sunday, it was utter chaos at Black Gate every time.  Some idiotic drivers made it even worse.
I reckon the cost of my petrol, plus the crazy amount of time it took to get up and down yesterday left me out of pocket.  It was madness.
If you insist on living on some windswept headland, you only have yourself to blame...  :P
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 18, 2017, 08:56:50 am
More bad parking in N Wales


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzE4NzA0ODMzNzcmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9aFRXU0w1MDFVU1hTUThXejlud2dJQSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=31870483377&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=26e6fb6f63014b3683ba81765aeae62a
Title: Re: Roads NEW BRIDGE TOLLS
Post by: SteveH on October 13, 2017, 03:44:50 pm
Liverpool airport passengers from North Wales face bridge toll charge from tomorrow
Drivers will have to pay to cross the new Mersey Gateway and the existing Silver Jubilee Bridge when it reopens.

Car drivers will face a £2 toll to cross the bridge over the River Mersey, with a £6 charge for mini buses and small vans and £8 for large trucks.
Tolls will be enforced immediately with dedicated cameras and sensors reading vehicle number plates and special stickers to charge drivers.
There will be no toll booths – instead merseyflow will use automatic number plate reading technology.

Motorists have until midnight the day after your crossing to pay or will face a penalty charge.

Details.....http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/liverpool-airport-passengers-north-wales-13758273 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/liverpool-airport-passengers-north-wales-13758273)

Title: Re: Roads NEW BRIDGE TOLLS
Post by: Dave on October 13, 2017, 04:51:58 pm
Liverpool airport passengers from North Wales face bridge toll charge from tomorrow
Drivers will have to pay to cross the new Mersey Gateway and the existing Silver Jubilee Bridge when it reopens.

Car drivers will face a £2 toll to cross the bridge over the River Mersey, with a £6 charge for mini buses and small vans and £8 for large trucks.
Tolls will be enforced immediately with dedicated cameras and sensors reading vehicle number plates and special stickers to charge drivers.
There will be no toll booths – instead merseyflow will use automatic number plate reading technology.

Motorists have until midnight the day after your crossing to pay or will face a penalty charge.

Details.....http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/liverpool-airport-passengers-north-wales-13758273 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/liverpool-airport-passengers-north-wales-13758273)

I have just been reading that article and I find it annoying that they treat people in such a way. The old bridge has been free forever as far as I'm aware but of course they are shutting that now for repair work which will take forever no doubt.
If you are heading to the airport for a holiday the last thing you need is extra hassle  trying to pay toll fees online or by phone. Another reason to choose Manchester airport!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 13, 2017, 05:07:32 pm
My thoughts exactly .....

If you cannot see the link search merseyflow

https://www.merseyflow.co.uk/ (https://www.merseyflow.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on October 13, 2017, 05:37:07 pm
Stupid if your using Liverpool airport or Manchester airport your going on holiday ,so with the hassle in airport you forget to go online to pay come back after a nice break to a penalty notice 😡
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: mull on October 13, 2017, 06:04:55 pm
Has this come out of the blue or was it expected ?
You want to get advice from Isle of Skye. They kicked off about the bridge tolls so much they were eventually withdrawn, along with all other bridge tolls in Scotland.
All part of the national road system so should be paid for through road tax.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 13, 2017, 06:07:29 pm
It may be possible to pay in advance, but the info. is not clear without entering more details.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 13, 2017, 06:20:06 pm
Should tolls be scrapped? If they were I guess they still have to paid for by someone so it's as good a way as any to put the cost on those who use them most I suppose.
It's a bit of a subtle difference though when a free passage suddenly becomes one you pay for. No doubt travelling costs came in to the equation for many people who chose to live where they do and  I wouldn't be happy if I lived in Frodsham or similar and commuted daily as you have just been hit with another payout of £18pw (with discount) or £20 without.That does seem unfair but no doubt the socialist council that runs things on Merseyside probably believe all those who live beyond Runcorn can afford to pay.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: snowcap on October 13, 2017, 09:26:24 pm
i've got my sticker for my window at the cost of £30 +£5 admin. charge and the kind people will Knock off £1.80 each time i use it, hows that for a big saving, they will even let me know when my money is running out so that i can top it up. Now how is that for service.( no fines for this lad ) It is now Known as the Turpin bridge (as in Dick Turpin)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 13, 2017, 10:36:19 pm
I will need to use one of those bridges just 4 times a year, as I need to go from from Liverpool to Knutsford on a Monday evening once every three months.  How will I be informed on how to pay (I know the website is given above but will I still be able to find that in a few months time) ... presumably there is a sign so are they expecting me to write down the details as I drive through?  Might have to go via M62 and M6 instead.

Went over the old bridge and passed them road works for the new one a couple of months ago and the new roads were not on my Sat Nav despite the car only being a week old at the time, so got quite confused as to where I was going!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 14, 2017, 08:36:29 am
It's absurd when you consider that now the only way to get into Liverpool from the South is to pay. The Transport minister was saying the tolls would be scrapped once the bridge was paid for but we all know that won't happen, because the Mersey tunnels are being tolled, despite having been paid off years ago.  And it's very odd that there aren't that many London bridges being tolled...
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 14, 2017, 09:28:09 am
i've got my sticker for my window at the cost of £30 +£5 admin. charge and the kind people will Knock off £1.80 each time i use it, hows that for a big saving, they will even let me know when my money is running out so that i can top it up. Now how is that for service.( no fines for this lad ) It is now Known as the Turpin bridge (as in Dick Turpin)

Charging an admin fee on top of paying in advance is scandalous, that's taking the XXXX     $angry$
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 14, 2017, 01:26:25 pm
The roundabout in Dolgellau costing £800,000K to build has now had to be redone

Nothing new though because they have been talking about removing the roundabout at Llanfairfechan for ages.   I used to go past it every day when I was working but when I retired from work I didn't go that way very often.
One day though, I went past and the roundabout was being removed and the next time I went past it had gone completely.
A few months later when I went past again they had rebuilt the roundabout.

Now they want it removing    &shake&

https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzIxNTExODQ2NjAmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9aVNDRG1PWTMtbXNYZjhoSGhBQ3JOUSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=32151184660&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=e6c9c5adf0bf8918a694290d1a71b3db
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 16, 2017, 02:09:57 pm
The Afon Conwy car park was quite empty when I parked there this morning but it didn't excuse the parking of the car next to mine.
It had parked over one of the lines without any thought to others.    Is it an inability to park properly or just an arrogant couldn't care less attitude?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 16, 2017, 02:11:34 pm
Bit of both, I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 16, 2017, 02:14:46 pm
They were my thoughts too Ian.     I wonder if it'll make the Daily Post list of bad parkers for October?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: spotty dog on October 16, 2017, 02:28:35 pm
We are assuming there wasn't a motorbike parked before you arrived
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 16, 2017, 03:36:00 pm
Do you mean on both  sides of this bad parker?       &shake&
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on October 16, 2017, 06:43:25 pm
All those leaves over the lines in the dark is my take on it and then we have had a bit of wind since........ that blew them away against the fence ;D.......unless my learned friend can prove otherwise?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: snowcap on October 16, 2017, 10:31:48 pm
a friend of my wife parks like that regular to stop her car getting scratched by folk opening their doors and marking her car again. She has paid out over £300 in the last two years to repair the same. I don't agree with it but she will still keep on doing it
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 16, 2017, 10:35:07 pm
That would be no excuse in the eyes of the law, but unenforceable in the Afon Conwy.     Any responsible motorist would have checked that they had parked correctly before going into the building anyway.
One thing that I'll give them credit for though is that their road tax and MOT are up to date
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 18, 2017, 02:40:58 pm
Multi vehicle pile up on the A55 in Mochdre causes delays


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-41665146 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-41665146)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 18, 2017, 02:50:16 pm
a friend of my wife parks like that regular to stop her car getting scratched by folk opening their doors and marking her car again. She has paid out over £300 in the last two years to repair the same. I don't agree with it but she will still keep on doing it

I can understand why your wife's friend is doing that, after experiencing one incident myself in Morrison's car park.  The damage caused by the woman driver to my car was estimated at between £300.00 and £500.00.   The woman then drove off without leaving her details.
That's not an excuse for selfish parking though, just imagine if everyone took two parking spaces.   The car parks would soon be full up.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 18, 2017, 04:05:28 pm
It's interesting, not least because UK parking spaces are far too narrow.  I suppose if we follow your logic, Hugo, then in a capitalist society it would be up to the businesses concerned to make provision for extra car parking.  Perhaps if everyone took one and a half spaces and trade correspondingly declined then the businesses might react and start making larger spaces. And damage in car parks happens a great deal.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 18, 2017, 04:26:17 pm
I'm not suggesting that we do take up two car spaces when we park Ian.  Car parks have allocated spaces for parking and that is why they have lines so that you can park between them.

The answer is simple, if you can't park properly or you are afraid of getting your car damaged then park elsewhere.     

I do agree with you though, that the allocated parking spaces are far too narrow and I've quoted Morrison's as a fine example of that.   In addition to the narrow spaces between the lines you are also faced with all those concrete supporting columns that they have on the bottom level.

Shops would be reluctant to make the spaces wider as they only have a limited allocation of space for parking and therefore they would have less customers.   Less customers means less profits for them so we should just be more careful when parking and getting in and out of the cars too
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 18, 2017, 04:38:08 pm
Yes, I know, but my argument is on the lines that if their custom starts to drop off, perhaps it might prove an incentive to change the parking situation for the better.  It's not that hard to do, curiously;  I would reckon they could all afford to lose one space at the end of each line and widen the remaining spaces commensurately. After all, they did it for the mother and child spaces.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: llewelyn on October 19, 2017, 07:23:58 pm
If the doors on your car are quite wide,  and you are a little rotund, you get back to your car and find you cannot open the door wide enough to get in, and my days of climbing in from the passenger side  are over.  :(
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2017, 04:14:35 pm
If the doors on your car are quite wide,  and you are a little rotund, you get back to your car and find you cannot open the door wide enough to get in, and my days of climbing in from the passenger side  are over.  :(


No problem of getting back into the car here and fair play she has parked between the lines, but does she have to buy one ticket or two?   ???
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: spotty dog on October 22, 2017, 05:08:05 pm
Fair play Hugo I'll give you that one, did you explain to her the error off her way  .
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2017, 05:19:29 pm
I'm too much of a gentleman to do that so I left it to the Parking Warden.     ;D
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 22, 2017, 06:24:28 pm
Another example of a half empty car park though Hugo. It shouldn't happen but it probably hasn't deprived anyone of a parking space.
If you really want to make a play for the warden's job take a look at some of the dangerous parking that's around. Start with Dunphy's Corner in Craig-y-Don where you can almost guarantee someone is parked on double yellow lines obscuring the view for any cars trying to cross the road there.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2017, 06:35:07 pm
Dave,  it doesn't matter whether the car park was half empty or not.    All the others parked properly so why couldn't that woman park properly?
Laziness is not an excuse and I'm sure that she would have been the first to complain if a traffic warden issued her with a ticket.

You're right about the dangerous parking though and that should be stopped.   If the Traffic Wardens don't operate in Craig Y Don then they should start doing so.   Have a word with them if you see them there.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 22, 2017, 08:00:17 pm
Dave,  it doesn't matter whether the car park was half empty or not.    All the others parked properly so why couldn't that woman park properly?
Laziness is not an excuse and I'm sure that she would have been the first to complain if a traffic warden issued her with a ticket.

You're right about the dangerous parking though and that should be stopped.   If the Traffic Wardens don't operate in Craig Y Don then they should start doing so.   Have a word with them if you see them there.

There are CCTV cameras overlooking those crossroads but I have doubts as too whether they actually record anything. You do see traffic wardens but once in a Blue Moon, it's free parking in C-Y-D so less chance of finding someone overstaying or not having a ticket.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2017, 10:20:08 pm
It seems to be a money making racket then Dave as Craig Y Don residents pay rates just like those in Llandudno so they should be entitled to the same services.
If it's an ongoing problem then there must be someone who can be approached to sort it out.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 23, 2017, 08:01:25 am
In the case of the Range Rover, I suspect one problem is that most people can't reverse into spaces, so she probably drove in forwards. You can enjoy hours of free entertainment in any car park and on any street watching drivers attempting to reverse. It's almost tragic in its scale, but the obvious  question is why don't they ever practice? 

I suspect that's one of the major issues around driving;  people pass their test - some rather a long time ago - and then never, ever practice any manoeuvres for the remainder of their life.  Good driving takes experience, practice and concentration. Every drive is a test, in a sense, but too many drivers don't view it like that. We;ve given up counting the numbers we see texting, turning to speak to a passenger, using their hands during a conversation to make a point, drinking, eating and lighting a cigarette - all while driving at high speeds, in some cases.

On another forum an otherwise very bright individual has started a topic asking who has priority at roundabouts. He's been driving since he was 17, and he's 55, now, so I was rather taken aback. Dealing with the question, however, did throw up some interesting points about roundabouts in general and mini roundabouts in particular. It's not helped by the Road Markings Manual - a massive, 150 page pdf which details exactly how and what types of give way lines ar used at roundabouts.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2017, 09:13:13 am
In the case of the Range Rover, I suspect one problem is that most people can't reverse into spaces, so she probably drove in forwards. You can enjoy hours of free entertainment in any car park and on any street watching drivers attempting to reverse. It's almost tragic in its scale, but the obvious  question is why don't they ever practice? 


You are spot on Ian.   The other day I was driving along a single track winding rural lane when I met another car coming the other way.   As I was driving, I had noted a passing place behind me about 100 yards away around a bend in the lane but saw that there was a wide passing place just two car lengths behind the female driver so I beckoned her to reverse to it.
What a farce, she went backwards then forwards about a dozen times before she made the ten yards to the wide passing point and even then parked in the middle of the road so there was no room for me to pass.
Logic doesn't even seem to come into it either and I had to tell her to go forward into a driveway so that I could get past.      :rage:
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: llewelyn on October 23, 2017, 03:15:44 pm
We see this reversing problem on Conwy High Street every day, traffic backs up all around the town whist some idiot takes dozens of attempts reverse and park between two parked cars, I have called and suggested they should GIVE UP AND DRIVE ON ! to the carpark would be a better idea.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: rhuddlan on October 23, 2017, 05:02:52 pm
   I was driving down the Conwy Valley near Tyn y Groes this morning. The sun was shining towards us and at the top of a brow there were two cyclists riding side by side directly in front of me. The one near the centre of the road was on wearing a dark lycra? outfit. I did see them in good time fortunately but thought I would check on the current rules and it seems they are allowed to ride side by side where it is safe. I would strongly suggest they wear something bright even in the daytime . Just in case I have cut and pasted the guidance below,.
   Personally if I was on a bike (most unlikely I know) given the amount of traffic, even on quiet roads I should stay as close to the kerb as possible.
   I'm always extremely cautious when their are cyclists, horses,children etc on the road, but sometimes I think some Cyclists do take risks that I wouldn't. They seemed to be too busy talking too each other and unaware of what could happen.

However, Rule 66 of the Highway Code says you should never ride more than two abreast. It also says you should ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends. Cyclists need to factor in the road conditions and should go into single file when necessary.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on October 24, 2017, 08:27:58 am
At 07:55 at the recent hole in the wall below Premier Inn Criagside, a white Fiat 500 the wrong way round facing up the hill with front end damage. Police in attendance. Damp on the road but another car in the same place in a short space of time.....any thoughts?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 24, 2017, 09:18:14 am
Last Saturday (21st) just before mid-day a Renault Clio hit the telegraph pole near the hole in the wall, brought down the telephone wire.  My son works in the Brewers Fayre and told me that was the fourth in about a week!  The FIAT makes it (at least) five so it does suggest an issue with the  the road.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 24, 2017, 10:27:12 am
It seems to be a money making racket then Dave as Craig Y Don residents pay rates just like those in Llandudno so they should be entitled to the same services.
If it's an ongoing problem then there must be someone who can be approached to sort it out.

Maybe someone reads this forum that can influence decision making! The parking warden was out and about C-Y-D around 10.am and booked one car parked on the zig zags before the Pelican Crossing, however, the one on the other side got let off as it had a Blue Badge displayed.  Both cars obscure a clear vision of the crossing for oncoming  drivers and to me it seems wrong that a Blue Badge allows parking in dangerous places.
Mind you if he had arrived at 9.25 he would have found three large vans all parked in even worse place on the double yellows making exiting Queens Rd particularly difficult as you had to drive on the wrong side of the road at the junction then had your vision to the right totally obscured too.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on October 24, 2017, 11:27:45 am


A Blue Badge DOES NOT allow parking in dangerous places, https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/rights-and-responsibilities-blue-badge-holders (https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/rights-and-responsibilities-blue-badge-holders)

It is an abuse of the Blue Badge system to do so and the Blue Badge can facility can be rescinded if abused, however, the issuing authorities are highly reluctant to revoke them, even for repeated reported abuse. In this case, a fixed penalty notice should have been issued to BOTH vehicles.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2017, 12:30:39 pm
According to the NWWN last week, signs are there warning of an adverse camber on the road so there must be some problem there.
There is also a speed limit on that stretch too so I find it hard to understand how someone can cross a lane, mount the kerb and then stop when they have hit the wall.   I would have thought that if someone did the emergency stop procedure then the collision with the wall could have been avoided.
Personally,  I've driven down the road thousands of times and never realised that there was a problem with that section of the road until damage to the wall started to happen
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 24, 2017, 01:55:49 pm
According to the NWWN last week, signs are there warning of an adverse camber on the road so there must be some problem there.
There is also a speed limit on that stretch too so I find it hard to understand how someone can cross a lane, mount the kerb and then stop when they have hit the wall.   I would have thought that if someone did the emergency stop procedure then the collision with the wall could have been avoided.
Personally,  I've driven down the road thousands of times and never realised that there was a problem with that section of the road until damage to the wall started to happen

You, me and tens of thousands of others too Hugo.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on October 24, 2017, 01:57:37 pm
Last Saturday (21st) just before mid-day a Renault Clio hit the telegraph pole near the hole in the wall, brought down the telephone wire.  My son works in the Brewers Fayre and told me that was the fourth in about a week!  The FIAT makes it (at least) five so it does suggest an issue with the  the road.

The Craigside Inn has two entrance/exits.

It is not unusual for a motorist turning right and entering the second entrance when travelling from Llandudno.

If this happens when another motorist is wanting to exit the car park using the designated exit then that car will pass immediately in front of the car now entering the car park.

Should there be a second car travelling from Llandudno and following the other motorist then the second car will now be stuck out in the main road and in the path of cars travelling too fast downhill.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2017, 02:48:08 pm
The turning to the Premier Inn can be quite tricky at times, especially in holiday traffic as locals will know.    However there is a 40 mph speed limit there and double white lines so any car following the one turning should not cross those lines so they wouldn't be a danger to oncoming traffic.

I've not even seen skid marks by the hole in the wall so did that motorist apply their brakes before going across the road, mounting the kerb and hitting the wall?

I do feel sorry for the person whose wall has often been damaged by motorists and trust that she has been compensated by the offending car's insurance cover.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Neil on October 24, 2017, 03:27:01 pm
I don't believe there is anything wrong with the road, the answer is obvious, an apparition of a giant fire breathing red dragon appears at this point in the road and causes the crashes  $walesflag$
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: squigglev2 on October 24, 2017, 04:04:51 pm
The turning to the Premier Inn can be quite tricky at times, especially in holiday traffic as locals will know.    However there is a 40 mph speed limit there and double white lines so any car following the one turning should not cross those lines so they wouldn't be a danger to oncoming traffic.

I've not even seen skid marks by the hole in the wall so did that motorist apply their brakes before going across the road, mounting the kerb and hitting the wall?

I do feel sorry for the person whose wall has often been damaged by motorists and trust that she has been compensated by the offending car's insurance cover.
Maybe people still get things wrong tough Hugo. I can’t get beyond a rough location for the Craigside manor, at least not enough to picture the junctions and am out of your area a long while.  Still however I look at things, it’s pretty much a given that the will be a bump or two per year on a road junction near me where the A149 and A140 join, I’d guess largely as a result of the sweeping bend from N Walsham (trying to describe, not expecting you to know where I am).A little further up the road, cars can leave and hit a property.

Rumour has it that the late major  G offered to sell a corner of his land to improve road safety but it wasn’t taken up on.

I know one can argue speed, etc. and argue that oneself is the safest driver in the world (I was even the latter on two wheels – but stupid at times and never took my test (on that or with a car) but you at least learn that every car driver is potentially out to get you)…but I’d think now that we always need to consider a few aspects.

One of these should surely be whether or not better signposting or improvements to a road or layout itself might reduce accidents?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 24, 2017, 04:23:13 pm
The entrance/exits at the Brewers Fayre are a bit narrow for two cars to pass ... everyone I have seen enters the venue via the entrance/exit closest to Colwyn Bay and exit via the entrance/exit closest to Llandudno.  In other words, treat the tree/island as a roundabout.

Seems more obvious when you are leaving the venue.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2017, 10:48:36 pm
Mrs H told me about the crash on the A55 this afternoon when the eastbound carriageway was blocked at Abergele and there were tailbacks past Llanddulas.
Luckily she was travelling in the westbound carriageway.    The road was cleared after about 90 minutes



http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/drivers-caught-7-mile-queues-13807101 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/drivers-caught-7-mile-queues-13807101)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 25, 2017, 08:26:05 am
It's becoming depressingly familiar, that situation.  And there's that use of 'span' again.
Quote
The road was shut for around 90 minutes after the car smashed into the central reservation and span around in the middle of the road.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: hollins on November 06, 2017, 06:54:24 am
First time over the Turpin Bridge(Mersey Gateway). What an amazing structure. We just paid our£4 for 2 trips online before we went. Much easier trip now to the airport.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 11, 2017, 10:52:30 am
Modern technology or old fashioned highway robbery.


Mersey toll bridge anger by Liverpool Airport travellers hit by fines
Drivers from North Wales have been slapped with bills after failing to pay online charge.

Article and 26 comments..... http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mersey-toll-bridge-anger-liverpool-13887755 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mersey-toll-bridge-anger-liverpool-13887755)


This link mentioned in one of the comments..
More than two million fines were handed out in 2016 for using the Dartford Crossing and failing to pay, according to figures from Highways England.

Figures released earlier in the year show the total income for use of the crossing from 1 April 2015 to 31 March 2016 was £161.6million, an increase of £61.8million compared with the previous year.
Nearly one third of this - £53.1million – was raised from enforcement action, which Highways England said helped drive the increase in revenues.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-4695986/I-face-200-fine-failure-pay-Dartford-Crossing.html (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-4695986/I-face-200-fine-failure-pay-Dartford-Crossing.html)


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on November 11, 2017, 01:41:11 pm
Seems that you are expected to slow down or stop at the sign and make a note of how to pay ... I will probably be going over that bridge on Monday evening so will see how easy that is ... although I have looked on the website and know how to pay.

But if it was my wife on her own what would she do ... she does not do online banking, does not have a phone that connects to the web and does not use a computer ... and I'm sure she's not the only person like that.

The time allowed before the fines are sent out is far too short as well.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on November 11, 2017, 03:05:43 pm
I wonder if one way to make the point is for every motorist to slow down sufficiently to read the signs. If that means stopping mid-lane, then so be it. It would certainly be interesting to see how they'd deal with the resulting queues.  Perhaps we should all try it on Monday next at 0830...
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: TheMedz on November 11, 2017, 05:52:27 pm
I know this will possibly not get agreement with a high percentage of people on the forum opinions but personally I think the new bridge is excellent to use. I travel over it probably 2 to 4 times a week to get to a location very near the airport. The new bridge may cost me £1.80 a crossing but saves me around 20 to 30 minutes each way. Even if people were to slow down or stop to look at the signage and get the phone number or website info they need to pay on it would still be quicker than going the old route.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on November 11, 2017, 07:28:44 pm
I think the issues about the new bridge are (a) the old one was free, (b) not everyone has the facility to be able to make the payment online and (c) the short timescale in which you must pay to avoid additional charges.

It does seem that it is not possible to note the method of payment if you are new to the area and unaware of what is required.

I mkight find out on Monday evening if I choose to go that way - from Liverpool to Knutsford, according to Google Maps it is the same mileage and time as using the M62/M6 so dependent on whether or not the motorways are clear.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 11, 2017, 07:31:32 pm
M. I do not think anybody will knock the advantages of the new bridge or the charges?  Especially those who are aware of the rules, however it does appear that it will penalise the unwary, and as DVT says *The time allowed before the fines are sent out is far too short *  and the company running the toll, seem to expect an increased revinue from these fines, (mentioned above)  I recently crossed the bridge on a quiet Sunday morning as a passenger, with plenty of time to read the signs, even under these circumstances I missed the relevent information, so I do sympathise with those, in my opinion, who are being victimised.


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on November 12, 2017, 07:49:03 am
Has Speke Road been upgraded as part of the process?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: TheMedz on November 12, 2017, 08:53:11 am
Did you mean Speke Boulevard Ian? If so then no it hasn't been upgraded. It still  has as many potholes and ruts as ever on the side into town but was I think was resurfaced in parts going outwards towards the bridge.

With regard to sending out fines it would I think have been better had they been able to carry out a process of sending out warnings for the first non payment per car and details of how to pay and avoid fines thereafter.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on November 12, 2017, 09:08:35 am
Thanks, ME. Yes - I suspected it might still be a tad ropey, but at least you can use the new link section from the Otterspool turn off to the docks and central Liverpool.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 12, 2017, 10:55:07 am
What hundreds of furious Daily Post readers had to say about new Mersey toll bridge.

Almost 500 readers have commented on the issue, and most were critical of the Mersey Gatway.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-hundreds-furious-daily-post-13889786 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-hundreds-furious-daily-post-13889786)

One of the comments.....
Okay so they have a toll on the new bridge and have done away with the toll booths very similar to over here in California they did away with the toll booths crossing on the Golden Gate bridge, so now if you don't have a pass you have 48 hours to go on line and pay but and here is he big difference they will then mail you the bill in the mail I think you have 14 days to pay then it goes up so at least the motorist has a chance to pay if caught unaware and didn't know you have to go on line to pay, but to have only one full day and the part of the day you cross to pay is terrible why can't they give you 48 hours and then mail the bill and you have time to pay, what happens if you cross this bridge on your way out of the country and have no access to pay on line then I guess it is an automatic fine...

This is your typical revenue generator and the hopes you don't pay so they can fine the motorist once again the general public are the losers... 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 13, 2017, 05:44:09 pm
1,712,934 vehicles crossing since the opening last month that still means around 50,000 drivers have been hit with fines.            (50,000 X  20 pounds not a bad profit so far)

spokesperson for Merseyflow said: "The new Mersey Gateway Bridge has been really popular. We’re approaching two million vehicles using the bridge in total and averaging over 70,000 vehicles every weekday, which is over and above what we expected.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mersey-toll-bridge-operator-responds-13896540 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mersey-toll-bridge-operator-responds-13896540)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on November 13, 2017, 07:37:16 pm
Anyone know what caused the long hold-ups on the Deganwy-Conwy road at around 1730 today? Lots of flashing blue lights.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on November 13, 2017, 07:40:44 pm
Liked the bit in your DP reports, Steve:

"A spokesperson for Merseyflow said: "The new Mersey Gateway Bridge has been really popular. We’re approaching two million vehicles using the bridge in total and averaging over 70,000 vehicles every weekday, which is over and above what we expected. "

Well, it's not as if they had anything to go on like - for instance - a previous bridge.  Oh, wait...

 Z@@
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 13, 2017, 08:12:32 pm
Anyone know what caused the long hold-ups on the Deganwy-Conwy road at around 1730 today? Lots of flashing blue lights.

Could it be this Ian?

https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzI0OTM0MjgyNjImcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9UWhLQ1hPOFZxOWhyblNzb0M5azNvQSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=32493428262&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=cb587fb97665add7f6b1d261e781c3d6
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on November 14, 2017, 06:38:05 am
That could be it, Hugo . Thanks.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 14, 2017, 12:03:28 pm
Multi vehicle pile up on the A55 eastbound lane at Llanddulas



https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzI1MDE1MTU5NjcmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9TTNhalYyRzN6SUdUXy1yeWJHQkEzQSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=32501515967&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=9c1ea3ea94e454c761c1ab6ad7cdc17b
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 15, 2017, 06:39:41 pm
I read an article in the Daily Mirror on Monday and it was headlined  1 in 4 cars have out of date MOT's.      I think that it must be caused by recent changes in the law relating to Road tax for vehicles.
When a car is sold the existing road tax stops and the car's new owner then has to road tax the vehicle from the time they purchased it.
Consequently there will be an overlap of time between the dates of expiry of the MOT and the road tax.

That's no excuse though for not having a MOT but with the abolition of road tax discs then something like this was inevitable.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on November 15, 2017, 07:20:21 pm
I suspect one reason could be that you don't get a reminder that your MoT is about to expire.  This is something that perhaps the MoT stations could address by sending reminders and therefore getting the business.

Even though you no longer get a tax disc you do still get the reminder to cough up.  That would be the time that the system would flag up "No MoT" when the Post Office scans the form.  Not sure whether you get a reminder if you renew online.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on November 15, 2017, 08:12:55 pm
By coincidence, I only signed up for MOT reminders yesterday.

https://www.gov.uk/mot-reminder (https://www.gov.uk/mot-reminder)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 15, 2017, 10:30:45 pm
The system still flags up MOT's and Road tax that have expired.     With road tax that has expired the DVLA will issue another reminder for the road tax and if the default continues then they say that they will then issue a notice for the car to be clamped.     Unfortunately they do no always do what they say they will do.

The DVLA has no power to deal with expired MOT'S,  that is a Police matter and the Police don't appear to be in a rush to do anything about expired MOT's either
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 17, 2017, 08:56:23 am
Number of untaxed vehicles in UK trebles after tax disc abolition,   I've noticed one local vehicle with no tax or Mot and the mileage has been clocked too so they have got a hat trick
Will the Police catch up with the driver?      &shake& 



https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiY166InsXXAhUB5xoKHfrBDOYQqOcBCCYwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fmoney%2F2017%2Fnov%2F16%2Funtaxed-vehicles-uk-trebles-tax-disc-abolition-vehicle-excise-duty-dvla&usg=AOvVaw2rjI3S_U6R8PXlKYyWklo5 (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiY166InsXXAhUB5xoKHfrBDOYQqOcBCCYwAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fmoney%2F2017%2Fnov%2F16%2Funtaxed-vehicles-uk-trebles-tax-disc-abolition-vehicle-excise-duty-dvla&usg=AOvVaw2rjI3S_U6R8PXlKYyWklo5)





Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on November 17, 2017, 05:29:37 pm
It was obvious  to everyone except the government that that would happen,  such a daft idea to change things!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 18, 2017, 08:54:20 am
According to the Daily Mirror yesterday it was said that the switch from the Tax Disc to paperless would save £7 Million.  What has happened since paper tax discs were abolished is that the estimate of unpaid car tax has risen from £32 million to £97 million this year

If anyone in business did something similar they would have gone bankrupt years ago.      The Police and DVLA need to get their act together and sort out this problem together and it doesn't take rocket science to do it.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2017, 12:29:10 pm
Where you're most likely to get a parking ticket in North Wales revealed
.
Five penalty hotspots revealed to have contributed to raking in upwards of £300,000 in just three months.
The highest number of fines in Conwy are dished out on Mostyn Street in Llandudno.

According to the information, at least £317,382 has been raked in by North Wales Councils over the last three months, with a total of 12,774 tickets dished out.

The highest number of tickets handed out was in Conwy, where the council issued 6,770 notices and brought in £166,322.  Ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 21, 2017, 12:34:54 pm
Driver wins appeal over Mersey toll bridge fine...and this is how he did it.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/driver-wins-appeal-over-mersey-13931137 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/driver-wins-appeal-over-mersey-13931137)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 23, 2017, 08:22:27 am
Travel disruption caused by flooding in North Wales

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42092007 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42092007)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 25, 2017, 11:38:33 am
A55 like an ice rink with black ice causing multiple pile ups in Flintshire


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzI2MTg5ODMzOTkmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9VTRVbllIRXdYWWQ4cTl3QjhYMVlLQSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=32618983399&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=9f5312b510442e5ab36b26f6a15902f3
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 08, 2017, 10:30:06 am
It has been hailing and snowing this morning in Colwyn Heights and the forecast for the afternoon is for heavy snow.  Mrs H has come safely back from shopping in the Bay but I can't get the car up the drive as it is sliding all over the place so I've left it in the road



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42269170 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42269170)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on December 08, 2017, 11:24:14 am
See when we had coal fires we could throw the cinders on the pathways always did the job ,showing our age now 😂
Title: Re: Roads out of area.
Post by: SteveH on December 08, 2017, 01:11:20 pm
 :o    :o     :o

Near Trefnant.....ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 08, 2017, 06:24:17 pm
Snow causes problems on the N Wales roads



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42269170 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42269170)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 09, 2017, 05:05:33 pm
Snow causing problems again on the A55 by Caerwys


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/heavy-snow-causes-long-queues-14016004 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/heavy-snow-causes-long-queues-14016004)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 13, 2017, 10:38:19 pm
Colwyn Road by the Premier Inn in Craigside is closed




https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzI3NzQxODg1NTQmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9UFdTUmxPRDh5bWY1TGNTSTdsUkI3ZyZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=32774188554&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=726ab7bec0cb921de7bcc64d371486dd
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 14, 2017, 01:08:26 pm
I travelled from Colwyn Bay to Llandudno earlier today and traffic is being diverted down Bryn Y Bia Road and where Bryn Y Bia Road joins Colwyn Road the was a workman waving traffic on so that there was no build up of traffic at the stop sign.
I'm sure that trade at the Craigside Premier Inn will be affected by the closure of the road so I hope that the road can be reopened asap
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on December 14, 2017, 02:59:46 pm
Note that you can get to the Brewers Fayre from the Llandudno side (ignore the Road Closed sign) - Council have been asked to erect a sign saying Business As Usual - my son works there and tells me the upper car park will be closed due to the proximity of rubble when they take down the rocks, but they are open for business.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bellringer on December 15, 2017, 09:42:57 am
I traveled last evening and the road was open, so the matter must have been resolved.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 20, 2017, 10:35:48 pm
Abergele Road in Old Colwyn closed after serious crash



https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzI4MzA0MjU4MTImcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9RjJldmZOZ2RTQ0gybzhnUF9vOV9PQSZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=32830425812&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=e7bef716bf36c95c7b5b23f4ed099ae7
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2017, 08:45:40 am
Two people killed in the road crash last night


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42437368 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42437368)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 15, 2018, 05:52:30 pm
More delays.......

Plans to remove roundabouts on the A55 could be hit by a delay after it emerged collapsed firm Carillion was carrying out the design contract on the multi-million pound project.

The Welsh Government awarded the design element of the scheme at Penmaenmawr and Llanfairfechan to Carillion last year.
But today the company - which employs 20,000 workers across Britain - went into compulsory liquidation.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-roundabouts-carillion-penmaenmawr-llanfairfechan-14158838 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-roundabouts-carillion-penmaenmawr-llanfairfechan-14158838)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2018, 12:29:11 pm
Must  watch.......


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dashcam-captures-moment-lorry-driver-14166199 (http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dashcam-captures-moment-lorry-driver-14166199)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on January 17, 2018, 12:57:30 pm
Excellent example of the governemnt's stupidity in cutting road traffic police. Not one police vehicle in the entire escapade.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on January 17, 2018, 08:28:32 pm
I'm not sure that the number of traffic police would have made a difference Ian. If he only drove a mile he was off the road in a few minutes...provided he didn't hit anything.
Many years ago I spotted a car driving towards Llanddulas having come up the slip road on the wrong side at Pensarn. I drove alongside on the opposite carriageway  blaring my horn but to no avail. I pulled over and dialled 999 for the police and reported him.
I later discovered a friend of my wife's husband had had to swerve to avoid him and badly damaged his van but at least wasn't injured. He told us that the police never did catch the offender.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 25, 2018, 11:09:14 am
Almost 400 drivers have been caught speeding in just one week through roadworks with a 40mph limit on the A55 .
Work to install a noise barrier to tackle the sound of traffic has begun at Sea Road Bridge near Abergele , and a temporary speed limit has been put in place.

Go Safe Cymru says average speed cameras have captured 380 vehicles breaking the limit since work started on January 15.

The average speed cameras are live and by Tuesday had captured 380 vehicles exceeding the speed limit.

“These have now been processed by Go Safe. Please keep to the speed limit and keep the workforce safe.”
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/hundreds-drivers-snapped-just-week-14198688 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/hundreds-drivers-snapped-just-week-14198688)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2018, 02:20:25 pm
 :-}}}      I wish that I had seen this earlier
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 25, 2018, 02:26:05 pm
:-}}}      I wish that I had seen this earlier

Ouch,  how much  ?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 25, 2018, 02:33:39 pm
I'll have to wait and see but to be fair most of the drivers were doing below 40 mph,  just one or two being silly    :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 14, 2018, 03:51:34 pm

portable cabin blown off lorry on A55 as winds up to 60mph batter North Wales


https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzMyOTMwMTA4NDkmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9ZzFBcUdtNUlLak5NNkxpZkdkQzN5USZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=33293010849&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=6b55d82476b2fb4388736ef653c879b3
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on February 14, 2018, 05:00:31 pm
Guilty M'lud. 48mph.
I'm all in favour of protecting the workforce and always slow down in roadworks when there is work going on, however, at 1.48am on a Sunday morning they were all tucked up in bed and that's where I wanted to be too. Hardly a soul out on the roads at that time of night.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: mull on February 14, 2018, 09:11:30 pm
How do you know there is no work going on.
If there is a speed limit shown it is there for a reason . How do you know workers are not in the area.

I have a son working on motorway maintenance who recently had an idiot driving a Porche try to race a lorry into a single lane on the M12 failed to make it and ended up in the middle of a work site at 0230 in the morning. Luckily everyone managed to jump clear before anyone was hit. He probably thought who will be working at this time of day.

Who are you to decide whether a speed limit needs to be observed. The crew working on the road need to be safe in the workplace.
Don't forget these workers have families.

RANT OVER.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on February 14, 2018, 09:36:58 pm
Having worked out how the speed limiter works on my car I have been going through the Abergele roadworks with it set at 40 ... awful to drive as it won't accelarate and the car keeps braking as soon as you get to 40 ... which is what it's supposed to do, but horrible to experience.

On Monday I was coming through at about 11pm ... an Irish registered artic that I had passed a mile or so before was trying to climb into my boot  flashing his headlights - I could not accelarate and actually thought he was going to push me.  He did eventually pull over, managed it without removing the rear corner of my car and then accelarated and must have been doing 50+ as he passed where the workers were actually doing something.

I wonder if he will get done or will he get away with it as it was not on a UK registration.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on February 14, 2018, 10:59:58 pm
How do you know there is no work going on.
If there is a speed limit shown it is there for a reason . How do you know workers are not in the area.

I have a son working on motorway maintenance who recently had an idiot driving a Porche try to race a lorry into a single lane on the M12 failed to make it and ended up in the middle of a work site at 0230 in the morning. Luckily everyone managed to jump clear before anyone was hit. He probably thought who will be working at this time of day.

Who are you to decide whether a speed limit needs to be observed. The crew working on the road need to be safe in the workplace.
Don't forget these workers have families.

RANT OVER.
You are right of course I have no right to decide but with no other traffic on the road and headlights on full beam I had total vision for a long way ahead and around me and could see that there wasn't anyone working on that stretch so I wasn't posing more of a threat, in fact less of a threat , than a car legally driving down the Craigside section of the prom at 40mph in the middle of summer with cars parked on either side of the road too.
Just make sure you don't break the 20MPH limit outside schools which is very easily done late at night when everyone is tucked up in bed.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on February 15, 2018, 08:28:17 am
As worrying as speeding through roadworks is, the number of drivers who seem to have no clue about signalling when on a roundabout seems at least as great, if not more, and they're equally capable of causing accidents.  Just stand at any non-mini roundabout in the area and watch. Most don't seem to have a clue. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on February 15, 2018, 09:25:28 am
The truth is we all believe we are better drivers than we are.
I have an aversion to tailgaters, central lane hoggers, slow lane drivers who fail to anticipate traffic coming on to a dual carriage way and don't move over, traffic entering a dual carriageway down a slip road that imagine they have a right of way, drivers who think they have superior rights to the road than pedestrians, those who drive too fast in unsafe places ??? ???, lack of signalling, not knowing who has right of way etc,etc.
The list goes on and on.
Can I honestly say I have never put a foot wrong?
No, but neither can virtually anyone who has ever taken to the roads.
This will be my third speeding ticket in nearly 50 years of driving. Driving was a large part of my career and I have clocked up something around 1.5million miles. I count myself lucky that I have only been caught 3 times.
If there is anyone out there who hasn't broken the speed limit, never made a single error when driving then let me know and we'll see if we can get you sainthood.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on February 15, 2018, 09:35:14 am
Everyone makes mistakes at some point; whether it's a momentary lack of concentration, a distraction or simply choosing the wrong lane - we've all done it.  But I think good drivers are those who continue to think about what they're doing.

We've spotted drivers engaged in conversation who feel they must look at the passenger to make their point, drivers who apparently have never discovered their vehicle's indicators, drivers who are convinced the speed limits only apply to everyone else and, at the other end of the scale, drivers who believe anything faster than 30mph on a derestricted road is madness. The thing is we often don't notice the drivers who drive well; we only see those who blatantly ignore good road sense, or even worse, excuse people who make dangerous mistakes.

Our pet hates are tailgaters, idiot signallers and those who get themselves in the wrong lane then simply choose to turn the way they want to, anyway.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Quiggs on February 15, 2018, 05:44:30 pm
My pet hate is, mainly, Taxi drivers who stop on the oncoming traffic side to drop off passengers, with their headlights on, especially the new Halogen lights. Iff a passenger alights on the road side it’s almost impossible to see them
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on February 15, 2018, 07:44:54 pm
Not just taxi drivers, but people who drop passengers off whilst blocking the whole road. $angry$
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Robbie G on February 15, 2018, 08:03:58 pm
Irish wagons do not get booked for speeding or at least they didn't in the past ,it was to much trouble to trace them or any other foreign registered wagon , it appears that the 50 mph limit through Colwyn Bay is totally ignored but I have never seen any speed checks On that stretch of road  , its only a matter of time before they have average speed cameras installed there all because people ignore the present speed limit 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on February 15, 2018, 08:14:22 pm
They have done speed checks on the Colwyn Bay A55 both with vans parked on the bridges and mobile patrol cars on the slip road.... and no, I haven't been caught there either.
I recently read somewhere that there are plans afoot to scrap the 50MPH limit and make it 70MPH.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SDQ on February 16, 2018, 03:42:18 pm
Irish wagons do not get booked for speeding or at least they didn't in the past ,it was to much trouble to trace them or any other foreign registered wagon , it appears that the 50 mph limit through Colwyn Bay is totally ignored but I have never seen any speed checks On that stretch of road  , its only a matter of time before they have average speed cameras installed there all because people ignore the present speed limit 


That 50mph stretch through Colwyn Bay used to be the most policed speed limit in the area which brought it to the attention of the national press and the infamous Top Gear segment where Clarkson christened Brunstrum the Mad Mullah of the North Wales Taliban! You would rarely drive through without seeing a patrol car on the slip road at West End or Old Colwyn waiting for their next victim. They backed off a bit after all the negative press but if you look at your rear view mirror when you pass through you still occasionally see a police car parked on the slip road.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 21, 2018, 01:54:07 pm
Essential surfacing works are due to be carried out on the eastbound carriageway at J24 at Abergele overnight from today (Wednesday) until Sunday.
It will see a full closure of the carriageway between the J24 off slip and J24 on slip road between the hours of 8pm and 6am.

A Traffic Wales tweet said: “Essential surfacing works on #A55 J24 Abergele Eastbound will start on Wednesday 21/02 - Sunday 25/02 between 20:00-06:00 with a full closure between J24 Abergele off slip and J24 on slip.”
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/parts-a55-shut-five-nights-14316377 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/parts-a55-shut-five-nights-14316377)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 21, 2018, 02:47:53 pm
I drove very carefully when I went past yesterday, unlike the time before when I exceeded the speed limit slightly.  Still haven't heard anything about it yet, but am keeping my fingers crossed
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on February 21, 2018, 09:24:08 pm
I drove very carefully when I went past yesterday, unlike the time before when I exceeded the speed limit slightly.  Still haven't heard anything about it yet, but am keeping my fingers crossed

You are off the hook, we have had the letter , returned it, had a second one with the corrected driver on it..me, and I have paid and booked for my Driving Awareness Course. Incidentally mine was classed as a minor infringement.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Robbie G on February 22, 2018, 10:20:23 am
I think there is a 5 day time limit for notification for a speeding offence Hugo 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 22, 2018, 10:47:02 am
Thanks Dave and Robbie.         $good$

On Tuesday I let anyone overtake me including the White van man who was nearly in my  car boot but they seem to get away with it when it comes to being prosecuted
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Neil on February 22, 2018, 02:21:08 pm
Dave, I went on the course a few years ago, it pays to swat up on the Highway Code the day before, if you don't want to be at the bottom of the class, it was one of the most boring days of my life, but you have to stay awake or you will fail!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on February 22, 2018, 03:01:03 pm
Dave, I went on the course a few years ago, it pays to swat up on the Highway Code the day before, if you don't want to be at the bottom of the class, it was one of the most boring days of my life, but you have to stay awake or you will fail!
I didn't realise there was an exam!
Nice to see I'm not the only one to admit to falling foul of the speed limits! I happen to strongly disagree with Jeremy Clarkson, speed does kill. The limits are set for perceived public safety but drivers should use judgement as to what that safe speed should be. Often a safe speed is well below the legal limit so conversely it makes sense that on occasion it's not dangerous to go a bit faster too but I guess we all have differing opinions of where and when both should be applied so we end up with set limit which may or may not get you in trouble!
 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on March 06, 2018, 04:46:27 pm
Major road resurfacing taking place at Maenan on the A470.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 19, 2018, 10:17:02 am
Cayley Promenade in Rhos on Sea has been closed. My colleague David Powell has taken this photo at the scene showing lots of pieces of tarmac on the road. ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 19, 2018, 11:20:17 am
That section of the promenade took quite a pounding over the weekend  and I'm glad that one of those bits of tarmac didn't land on my bonce when I was taking some photos,
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on March 19, 2018, 12:50:08 pm
Dave, I went on the course a few years ago, it pays to swat up on the Highway Code the day before, if you don't want to be at the bottom of the class, it was one of the most boring days of my life, but you have to stay awake or you will fail!
I didn't realise there was an exam!
Nice to see I'm not the only one to admit to falling foul of the speed limits! I happen to strongly disagree with Jeremy Clarkson, speed does kill. The limits are set for perceived public safety but drivers should use judgement as to what that safe speed should be. Often a safe speed is well below the legal limit so conversely it makes sense that on occasion it's not dangerous to go a bit faster too but I guess we all have differing opinions of where and when both should be applied so we end up with set limit which may or may not get you in trouble!

If only more people were this sensible, there would be a lot fewer deaths on the roads of this country.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: llewelyn on March 19, 2018, 12:56:31 pm
I have been on this course, The instructor said the speed limit is a maximum not a target, I said driving from Conwy to LLanwrst keeping to the speed limit means tailgating and dangerous overtaking  :-[
Title: Re: Roads in the area Manchester Airport drop off changes
Post by: SteveH on March 20, 2018, 02:55:06 pm
These big changes at Manchester Airport will affect anyone dropping-off people at the site
The move is being made in a bid to relieve congestion at the airport which is extremely popular with holidaymakers from North Wales.

Here's the main one - Manchester Airport is getting rid of its free 'kiss and fly' drop-off lanes.
It means you'll have to pay or use a shuttle bus to get anywhere near the terminals.
It's part of an attempt to relieve crippling congestion around the site.

From June, drivers will be charged £3 for five minutes on the forecourts of the terminals and train station, or £4 for a maximum 10 minutes.
Airport bosses are also opening a free off-site drop-off car park on Thorley Lane.
Based in the former Jet Park 1 - up to now a long-stay car park for holidaymakers - passengers will be dropped off before taking a shuttle bus to their terminal.

It will take seven minutes to cover the half mile to terminal two or 12 minutes to bridge the 1.2 mile journey to terminals one and three.

The ‘express drop-off charge’ and free parking are aimed at freeing up the hub’s congested roads, which have been the subject of a barrage of Twitter complaints in recent months.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/manchester-airport-parking-flights-shuttle-14435264 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/manchester-airport-parking-flights-shuttle-14435264)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 30, 2018, 10:39:25 pm
I'm just pleased that I don't have to use the A55 on this Bank Holiday


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-know-three-separate-crashes-14477711 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-know-three-separate-crashes-14477711)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: hollins on April 02, 2018, 11:15:48 am
This Daily Post article might make you feel a bit better Dave.
Amazing statistics if they are correct. Not sure where the press get them from.
I wonder if the Irish plate drivers got prosecuted also?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/abergele-a55-roadworks-speeding-cameras-14481210 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/abergele-a55-roadworks-speeding-cameras-14481210)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on April 02, 2018, 12:52:23 pm
For speed limit areas such as that I set the limiter on my car - it is really un-nerving to be driving through, unable to accelarate, when you have your rear-view mirror filled with a close-up of an Irish truck grille.  Arguably far more dangerous than going through slightly over the limit.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on April 02, 2018, 01:23:52 pm
This Daily Post article might make you feel a bit better Dave.
Amazing statistics if they are correct. Not sure where the press get them from.
I wonder if the Irish plate drivers got prosecuted also?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/abergele-a55-roadworks-speeding-cameras-14481210 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/abergele-a55-roadworks-speeding-cameras-14481210)

Well the one thing I have learnt is that instead of getting there 15 minutes before my speed awareness course starts as instructed I need to make it earlier as it looks like standing room only.
Interesting statistics, the one that I would really like to know is how many were prosecuted for speeding when the workforce wasn't actually working, ie weekends.
Nice little earner for the council though, should cover the cost of the work they were doing.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: squigglev2 on April 02, 2018, 04:03:55 pm
For speed limit areas such as that I set the limiter on my car - it is really un-nerving to be driving through, unable to accelarate, when you have your rear-view mirror filled with a close-up of an Irish truck grille.  Arguably far more dangerous than going through slightly over the limit.
Don't know about that but we used to come back from Bangor after a music event on Friday nights. It was quite surprising how quickly some of those trucks could take the bends on the bit without the tunnel and how close they could sit to a car's backside.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 02, 2018, 06:45:16 pm
It's bad enough driving on the A55 anyway without this type of thing happening (https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzM3MDU0NjkyNjUmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9X0ZTRUhDLXlBX19FX0dGUVgtZGJIdyZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=33705469265&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&si=36145&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=6ebc9618316d7b4611cee12d3a74303b) on Friday
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on April 02, 2018, 08:09:22 pm
It's bad enough driving on the A55 anyway without this type of thing happening (https://newsdesk.moreover.com/click/?p=Q1QyL2E9MzM3MDU0NjkyNjUmcD0xNGUmdj0xJng9X0ZTRUhDLXlBX19FX0dGUVgtZGJIdyZ1MT1ORCZ1Mj1nMTEwOA&a=33705469265&f=TmV3cw&s=ZXhwb3J0&u=ZXIubmV3bWVkaWFAYmJjLmNvLnVr&cn=QkJDIE5FV1MgT05MSU5F&ci=334&i=283&si=36145&e=Tm9ydGggV2FsZXMgRGFpbHkgUG9zdA&d=685&t=3&k=36145&fi=119597&ac=&ck=6ebc9618316d7b4611cee12d3a74303b) on Friday
Similar on the M62 today with tragic consequences, two innocent people died while the guilty driver survived.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 13, 2018, 10:44:06 pm
Crash on the A55 between Conwy and Dwygyfylchi


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-conwy-tunnel-14530054 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-conwy-tunnel-14530054)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on April 14, 2018, 11:02:06 am
This, a FaceBook 'forum' for A55 Traffic, Information, Incidents is brilliant.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1629801080592932/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1629801080592932/)

Apart from posts on the traffic on the A55, there are other (sometimes very loosely) associated posts and the hilarity of the idiocy of some of the comments is hilarious.

It makes this forum seem positively intellectual.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2018, 01:43:25 pm
I was driving down the A470 the other day on my way to the Art Studio opposite the Tal Y Cafn Hotel and i noticed the Arrive Alive speed camera van parked on the verge at the far end of Glan Conwy.
I didn't think too much about it until I had passed the Welsh Food place and entered the section near the bend where that part of the road has double white lines.   
A short distance behind me was a tractor and that too was in the double white line section, then the next minute a very large commercial vehicle overtook the tractor on the double white lines and pulled in behind my car, but this time sadly the Police were not about and as I don't have a rear view camera the driver got away with his dangerous driving.
As I turned into the one way road of Ffordd Penrhyd I felt a bit intimidated by the erratic driving of the commercial vehicle

It's a good job that that section of Ffordd Penrhyd is one way as it is a potential death trap for any vehicle going on to the A470 and turning right as if to go to Glan Conwy.      Strangely and rather worryingly there is no No Entry sign where this section meets the other road and also by the A470 there is a Give Way sign.     I looked at the street on Google Street view and there was in fact a Mercedes car driving the wrong way down the road past the Art Studio and heading for the A470!      &shake&
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 27, 2018, 10:31:41 pm
There will soon be average speed cameras on the A55 at Rhuallt Hill

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-43920509 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-43920509)

There was a two car crash on the A470 in Llandudno this afternoon by the Queens Road roundabout and a motorbike accident on the Bodysgallen stretch of the road



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-crews-cut-people-free-14587570 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-crews-cut-people-free-14587570)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on April 28, 2018, 09:53:06 am
Won't be long before we (motorists) have to employ someone to walk in front of the car carrying a red flag.

And as everyone turn to electric cars the amount of income from fuel tax would be drastically reduced so the government would need to get the money from somewhere - could save paying out dole money as those on benefits could be employed to carry the red flags.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 28, 2018, 10:26:17 am
Steady on DVT,  that idea is far too radical,  fancy suggesting that those poor people should be made to earn their benefits!        Perish the thought.      ;D
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 06, 2018, 06:38:55 pm
Normally we don't drive on the A55 on Bank Holidays but today we went to a Baptism in Northop Church.  The eastbound lanes of the  A55 were flowing very well but the westbound lanes were blocked in places.   One of the baby's Godparents was stuck in traffic and couldn't get to the Church in time for the Baptism.  The Vicar was brilliant  and improvised and as he conducted the Baptism, the Godparent was able to give her vows by mobile phone, thank goodness for modern technology.
The rest of the Baptism service went to plan and after the service we all enjoyed a delicious buffet at the nearby Celtic Arms.
The return journey on the westbound lanes was good but there was a crash just past Holywell and the tailback was stretching towards Rhuallt Hill
 

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-tailbacks-amid-bank-14622065 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-tailbacks-amid-bank-14622065)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 21, 2018, 02:35:41 pm
North Wales drivers should ALL have Mersey Gateway tolls and fines 'refunded' says lawyer
Solicitor says the tribunal decision means refunds should now be handed out for fines issued before April 19.

A North Wales lawyer says a tribunal ruling on charging on the Mersey Gateway bridge means ALL fines and tolls should be refunded to drivers.

In April the Traffic Penalty Tribunal (TPT) ruled that the tolls were not legally binding because Halton council had not specified the price of the toll charge clearly enough in the Mersey Gateway Road Charging Order (RUSCO).

Independent adjudicator Edward Solomons has now agreed the Charging Scheme employed by Halton Borough Council was not enforceable under the Transport Act 2000.

Thousands of North Wales drivers have paid tolls since the bridge opened in October and hundreds have been hit with fines for failing to pay.

MORE....  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mersey-gateway-tolls-fines-refunds-14685288 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mersey-gateway-tolls-fines-refunds-14685288)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 29, 2018, 04:51:05 pm
A55 average speed cameras at notorious stretch will be switched on this week
The cameras, on the Rhuallt Hill, are being installed after a study found the majority of drivers were speeding.

Traffic Wales has announced that the cameras on Rhuallt Hill will come into use some time in the next few days after a successful period of testing.
They have not specified which day they will be switched on for the first time.

The Welsh Government announced in April that the cameras will be trialled along the downhill stretch of Rhuallt Hill after data collected between March 8 and March 27 found thousands of people breaking the limit.

The radar system collected speed information from 394,326 vehicles and found that 217,642 had been travelling at speeds of more than 70mph on the westbound carriageway.

One interesting comment....... Will these wonderful hi-tech cameras be able to apply a 60mph average speed to caravans & HGVs.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-average-speed-cameras-notorious-14717195 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-average-speed-cameras-notorious-14717195)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on May 29, 2018, 05:07:27 pm
We saw nothing when we travelled down Rhuallt Hill about an hour ago.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on May 29, 2018, 08:45:53 pm
"The radar system collected speed information from 394,326 vehicles and found that 217,642 had been travelling at speeds of more than 70mph on the westbound carriageway."

Over 50% exceeding the speed limit - how does that compare with other stretches of the A55 (and other roads)?  Just out of interest how many of the 217,642 were involved in an accident, and also how many of the remaining 174,684?

When driving I prefer my eyes to be concentrating on what is ahead, and not looking at my dashboard - my driving adjusting accordingly.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on May 30, 2018, 09:17:04 pm
We saw nothing when we travelled down Rhuallt Hill about an hour ago.

I saw three of them, at various points before and after Rhuallt Hill last Monday when we came home from the Airport.
I’m not sure how you can miss them, tall yellow poles.... plus they had hazard warning signs saying they were currently not operational.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: rhuddlan on May 31, 2018, 06:02:25 am
There is a pic in this article about the rhuallt hill speed cameras.....

http://www.rhyljournal.co.uk/news/16257818.Thumbs_up_or_down__Drivers_have_their_say_on_A55_cameras_at_Rhuallt_Hill_crash_hot_spot/ (http://www.rhyljournal.co.uk/news/16257818.Thumbs_up_or_down__Drivers_have_their_say_on_A55_cameras_at_Rhuallt_Hill_crash_hot_spot/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2018, 12:14:03 pm
It doesn't matter if you are Lewis Hamilton or some old duffer or anyone else either, the speed limits apply to everyone.   

Whether people agree with them or not is irrelevant, they are in force and if anyone breaks them then they can't complain afterwards if they get a fine
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2018, 12:53:10 pm
True, but in the UK laws and Policing are supposed to be enacted 'by consent' or, in other words, generally agreed by most to be in the interests of the people. Speed limits are an interesting case, because it's not true that 'speed kills' in and of itself. Bad driving, carelessness, medical trauma, bad luck, catastrophic failures - all these can be contributory factors but what is interesting is the lack of any incontrovertible evidence that enforcing speed limits makes any real difference.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 31, 2018, 12:59:42 pm
There is a pic in this article about the rhuallt hill speed cameras.....

http://www.rhyljournal.co.uk/news/16257818.Thumbs_up_or_down__Drivers_have_their_say_on_A55_cameras_at_Rhuallt_Hill_crash_hot_spot/ (http://www.rhyljournal.co.uk/news/16257818.Thumbs_up_or_down__Drivers_have_their_say_on_A55_cameras_at_Rhuallt_Hill_crash_hot_spot/)

Interesting comments in the above article, I agree with the views on caravans, which are I understand to be a problem, losing control downhill.      (it's a lot easier to correct a mistake going uphill, something I learned a long time ago)  :'(

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2018, 01:18:46 pm
True, but in the UK laws and Policing are supposed to be enacted 'by consent' or, in other words, generally agreed by most to be in the interests of the people. Speed limits are an interesting case, because it's not true that 'speed kills' in and of itself. Bad driving, carelessness, medical trauma, bad luck, catastrophic failures - all these can be contributory factors but what is interesting is the lack of any incontrovertible evidence that enforcing speed limits makes any real difference.


The laws are passed by consent, that's why we elect our MP'S.     The maximum speed in the UK is 70 MPH  but that doesn't mean that you have to do 70 MPH .   You can drive at less than 70 MPH but you know that anything above the speed limit may result in a speeding fine so no one can have any complaint if they are booked
The law is the law and anyone breaking it has to face up to the consequences.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on May 31, 2018, 02:36:57 pm
....because it's not true that 'speed kills' in and of itself.

No, speed in itself dosen't kill.

It's speed that causes people to be killed.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on May 31, 2018, 03:51:51 pm
Possibly dangerous driving is more to blame? A driver doing 100mph when they can see the road ahead is completely clear of danger is arguable much safer than someone over the limit doing 30mph round a town.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on May 31, 2018, 06:30:45 pm
It's the slowing down that kills you!
Two cars head on at 10 mph below the limit of 60mph is deadlier than hitting a brick wall at 90mph.....
Anyway, I don't want to get involved in this discussion as I have said my bit about appropriate speed for the conditions in the past.
I served my punishment for my speeding offence in the A55 Abergele roadworks and I have to say it was indeed an eye opener attending the Awareness course and I have had a change of attitude to going driving fast. Does it really get you anywhere that much quicker? Well depends what sort of road for starters. Most injuries to road users happen in built up areas, most deaths on country roads. The safest are the motorways which only accounts for a tiny percentage of fatalities, 5% if I recall correctly. Motorways give the impression of being more dangerous than they are because when accidents happen they can be multi vehicle, if there is no traffic on the road it's perfectly safe to drive fast.
The other issue about speed is fuel consumption. My car was averaging around 45mpg  doing 75-80mph but at 60mph I was getting 60mpg too. Quite a difference. You do tend to arrive more relaxed despite being harassed by other drivers in the fast lane of a dual carriage way when you are overtaking something doing 60 and they come flying up behind you flashing their lights for blocking their progress at 80!
The other thing that they do bring across to you on a speed awareness course is not just the outcome for you if you have a bad accident but the impact on others. You can lose so much, particularly if you are guilty of breaking the law. Jail, loss of job, loss of house, financial security, broken marriage etc etc. Then there's living with the guilt if you have left someone dead or with life changing injuries.
It was all food for thought and I bought in to it.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on May 31, 2018, 08:38:42 pm
 
Despite all the indisputable evidence, there is always some half-wit who will pipe up to claim that that speed is not an issue.

If speed isn't an issue, how come I've never heard of someone being killed or seriously injured by being hit by a stationary vehicle.... 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on June 01, 2018, 09:14:11 am

Despite all the indisputable evidence, there is always some half-wit who will pipe up to claim that that speed is not an issue.

If speed isn't an issue, how come I've never heard of someone being killed or seriously injured by being hit by a stationary vehicle....

I believe that's called reductio ad absurdum, and otherwise a bit silly.  8)  If we were to pursue your logic, then the safest course of action would be to remain in the house, curtains drawn and never, ever venture out. The risk of he house collapsing and killing us is less than being hit by a vehicle when crossing the road.

We have to accept that driving is a human activity which many find both enjoyable and satisfying and it's also something which in today's society is necessary. The aim is always to reduce risk, but we can never eliminate it. Given that, the only realistic comparison is between the different ways to make a journey combined with the necessity for making the journey, and that's quite a knotty issue.

Lets look at the facts:

1. Even though the risk of pedestrians being killed at 30 mph is relatively low, approximately half of pedestrian fatalities occur at this  impact speed or below.

2. You might believe there's indisputable evidence, but there really isn't. Stats on KSI (killed or seriously injured) road incidents don't reveal a pattern: 2013 had the lowest KSI incidents since records began, but 2016 (after years of intensive camera-related speed monitoring and enforcing) revealed a drastic leap.

3. This is about risk and few understand what risk really entails. Risk is "the probability or threat of quantifiable damage, injury, liability, loss, or any other negative occurrence that is caused by external or internal vulnerabilities, and that may be avoided through pre-emptive action.".  Risk can also be defined as "the unwanted subset of a set of uncertain outcomes".

What that's all saying is you cannot possibly consider whether a driver doing 75mph in a 70mph zone is likely to impose a greater KSI risk than, say - falling through a rotten floorboard on the pier, or drinking a contaminated drink or flying to Iraq for a holiday. We are at risk all the time, every day and the best we can do is mitigate the risk element, which itself might not be a good idea.  Over-protective parents are a good example of that.

The speed limit of 70mph is an arbitrary limit, unlike almost all other limits placed on our social behaviour, which have been tested and evaluated for probable outcomes.

And, if you examine the Government road accident stats in detail, you will notice that very, very few are KSIs directly attributable to excess speed.  They reveal the top five causes of KSIs:

1. Failure to look properly - approx 36% of KSIs.
2. Failing to judge another person’s path and/or speed - approx 20%
3. Being careless, reckless or in a hurry
4. Losing control
5. Drink driving


So unless you're prepared to believe that these are all "half-wits", Bosun, then a little research might be in order.
 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on June 01, 2018, 10:09:22 am

Despite all the indisputable evidence, there is always some half-wit who will pipe up to claim that that speed is not an issue.

If speed isn't an issue, how come I've never heard of someone being killed or seriously injured by being hit by a stationary vehicle....

By the same argument nobody has ever been killed by a gun either...it's the person who pulls the trigger that's responsible.
Inappropriate speed at a given time is the problem, not how fast you are travelling.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 01, 2018, 02:31:43 pm

So unless you're prepared to believe that these are all "half-wits", Bosun, then a little research might be in order.

So, Ian, you think I need to do some research.

Just very briefly, I'll explain how much research I've done. I spent three decades attending fatal, (sometimes multiple fatal) and serious injury RTC's as a qualified Accident Investigator and as a PG9 Vehicle Examiner.  I worked with the Forensic Science Laboratory, specialist university departments and the tyre industry research departments, amongst others, determining the causes of RTCs. I gave evidence at Coroners Court, Magistrates Court and Crown and Civil Courts. I've had to inform relatives that their loved one had been killed or injured, and to take relatives to the mortary to identify their loved ones. And to inform the parents of one teenage girl of her death and persuade them that they should not view her, her remains were just that, remains. She had been decapitated. Some nights, half asleep, I still see the faces of these people; the dead or the grieving relatives.

In all those I remember, I can only remember one was that was not due to excessive speed.

I think that actually, I've done enough research.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on June 01, 2018, 03:30:31 pm
Fair enough, and I'm not disputing your expertise.  But what I am saying is that speed is only one factor in what are normally numerous and complex causative agents in a KSI accident.

In each of the incidents you recall, are you saying that all but one were simply people driving too fast? That there were no other complicating factors? That none of the others was drunk, or failed to take adequate care, or didn't look, or didn't simply lose control?

Speed was quite possibly an aggravating factor but it concerns me that people think speed is the entire cause, which it almost never is. At least, not according to the UK Gov's own statistics.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 01, 2018, 04:45:32 pm
Ian, contributory factors are ad infinitum, from the vehicle being on the road and moving, the the mood of the driver etc etc.

The constant factor is speed; excessive for the conditions, circumstances or situation.

I respectfully suggest in your research that you look at the consequences of speed and collision survival rates at lower speeds, such as https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmselect/cmtlgr/557/55705.htm

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: mull on June 01, 2018, 05:19:51 pm
I seem to remember seeing somewhere that 20 mph is the magic speed.
A person hit by a vehicle travelling up to 20mph stands a very high chance of surviving the impact.

I also recall from my BR days than a train travelling at 20 mph over defective track may derail, but will stay upright. Above that speed there is risk of overturning and causing casualties.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on June 01, 2018, 06:43:13 pm
I respectfully suggest in your research that you look at the consequences of speed and collision survival rates at lower speeds, such as https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmselect/cmtlgr/557/55705.htm

I'd read that piece sometime ago, Bosun, and, apart from a notable lack of solid research of any sort, I think it essentially agrees with my observations above:

"a study by the West Midlands Police found that less than 2% of traffic accidents were caused by excessive speed"

"the worst abuses of statistics only claim that speed causes one third of accidents, with the true figure likely to be around 10 per cent."

"speed is a contributory factor in about 30% of accidents.


Now, there is a problem with this: I agree that excessive speed can be a contributory factor but - and it's a big 'but' - how that squares with arbitrarily imposed speed limits and fining those who exceed these limits is another issue entirely.

I was trained by Traffic police to drive and in fifty years of driving all over the country and in Europe and the states I've never had an accident. But I drive quickly because I enjoy the challenge of driving both fast and safely. 

There's no denying that a high speed collision - or a collision at almost any speed, really - will cause injuries. That's not the debate. What is up for debate is the assumption that simply enforcing speed limits will lead to a reduction in KSI instances. Because that's how this started.

An example might help. 

1. A 22 year-old man goes out to a pub and has a few, and coming out he meets a pal who offers him a joint.  He has two, and then sets off home in the car.  As he rounds a bend he loses control and hits a cyclist,who is seriously injured. He was doing 38 mph at the moment of impact in a 30mph zone.

Q: What was the cause of the accident:

a) Speed
b) Alcohol
c) Drugs
d) Lack of concentration induced by two of the above?

The final question is who honestly thinks that a camera detecting him and fining him prior to the collision would have mitigated the incident in any way at all?

The UK has one of the best safety records in the world with only Monaco, Micronesia, Norway and Switzerland having better. What do those countries have in common? Far less crowded roads.  And in countries where the KSI figures can be expressed as a percentage per 1bn Km driven, we're fourth overall in the world.

So yes; speed is a component but driving ability is by far and away the most important factor, coupled with capability, sobriety, sanity and intelligence. I remain to be convinced that reducing the KSI stats on UK roads is anywhere near as simple as enforcing arbitrary speed limits. I wish it were - I really do - but if there are half-wits around I suspect they're those who believe rigidly enforcing limits is the way to make everyone safer on the roads.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on June 01, 2018, 07:51:36 pm
A friend of mine, and my Mum have both been caught for speeding recently.
Approximately 34mph in a 30 zone.
But, what I find interesting is, they can choose to attend to the speed awareness course or pay £100 fine.
Surely if the police are interested in road safety, and not just tax collecting.... you wouldn’t be able to buy your way out of the speed awareness course?
Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on June 01, 2018, 10:17:52 pm
Ian, I'm not getting involved in any further pointless discussion on this, Trump has proved conclusively that you can put any slant on any argument you care to, and decades of experience and knowledge obviously cannot change the opinion of an OAP with an internet connection.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: snowcap on June 01, 2018, 10:54:36 pm
you still have to cough up on the speed awareness course, and it goes without saying the faster you go the more chance that the accident you may or may not cause will be far worse, i would rather be hit at 30 mile an hour than at 40 mile an hour, the speed limits are there for a good reason so just learn to live with them and stop trying to justify impatience
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on June 02, 2018, 07:48:23 am
Ian, I'm not getting involved in any further pointless discussion on this, Trump has proved conclusively that you can put any slant on any argument you care to, and decades of experience and knowledge obviously cannot change the opinion of an OAP with an internet connection.

I'm not trying to change your opinion, Bosun, but merely attempting to broaden the scope of an argument that threatens to become worryingly myopic. And you can use your internet connection to further expand the parameters of the discussion and to locate all the pertinent information.

Statistics are important - vital, even - if we want to understand what makes our roads dangerous and how to make them safer. Or do you subscribe to a view that says only if you've done something yourself can you possibly know anything about it?

Finally, the comparison with Trump is interesting. 'Putting a slant' on debates is a tactic of the uninformed but refusing to debate further and throwing thinly (or not so thinly) veiled insults is of course, a favourite tactic of Trump's.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: squigglev2 on June 02, 2018, 08:32:47 am
i would rather be hit at 30 mile an hour than at 40 mile an hour, the speed limits are there for a good reason so just learn to live with them and stop trying to justify impatience

I’d guess even that would depend on what hit you. Heavy lorry at 40 or a motor bike at 60?

I think some one questioned static vehicles.  A stationary vehicle on a free flowing motorway certainly can be a hazard and I believe has been accepted as being a contributory factor in serious accidents.

Personally, I consider that a driver who does not keep reasonable pace on a main road is a menace. I know it involves the eventual impatience of another driver but if you get someone “blocking” a good 60mph road by driving at 30. sooner or later, someone is going to try  a dodgy overtaking move.

Of course, to a certain extent, I’m playing devil’s advocate above. There are reasons for speed limits and dangers can be hidden. A common one in this area is that open roads may have quite blind side roads.

Although that particular one (and others) can lead you to also question the possibilities of road improvement...

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 02, 2018, 10:40:43 pm
This is the reality --- more bikers killed in N Wales in 2018 than in the whole of 2017


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44337682 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44337682)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on June 03, 2018, 09:13:59 am
And these are not young tearaways, either; they're older and more mature than you might expect. But this year's toll is bad; as an ex-biker I wouldn't want to ride on most N Wales roads now as during the next few months they'll be very crowded with people spending more time on watching the scenery than the road.

But on two wheels you're very vulnerable. We were driving the A5 on the Nant Ffrancon some years ago when a biker passed us - not at a huge speed - but then they just seemed to lose control and fall off.  I've also seen a biker lose a foot when an older car with sticking-out bumpers collided with him, another crashing after a car pulled out without a signal or without - apparently - seeing him, another who braked suddenly and lost control - the list goes on.

I'm guessing one problem is the acceleration some of the big bikes can muster; it's so great if the road surface isn't almost perfect the rear wheel can try to overtake the front wheel, with predictable results. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on June 03, 2018, 07:26:35 pm
Somebody has caused Abergele Road between the Marine Roundabout and Eirias Park Gates to be closed. They have driven into the bus shelter by Hesketh Road going towards the Bay. Somebody was standing in the shelter but nothing further known.....Oh by the way they did not stop!
 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on June 03, 2018, 07:44:01 pm
And another.....while I  was hanging on to the excitable spaniel!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 06, 2018, 06:41:05 pm
There was a crash on the A470 by the Ty Gwyn Hotel in Betws Y Coed and a coach and car were involved but thankfully it has been reported that there were no serious injuries to anyone.
We were held up there for a while and there was a large Police presence and two fire engines but we couldn't see any ambulance on the scene.

There was a report of another accident on the A5 near Pentrefoelas and one person has been lifted by air ambulance to Stoke Hospital.

Another crash was reorted on the A55 by Abergele but the details are not known
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 06, 2018, 07:41:58 pm
Some news on the A5 crash

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44385453 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-44385453)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 08, 2018, 01:20:38 pm
Abergele straits A547 closures you need to know about


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a547-abergele-straits-closures-you-14759567 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a547-abergele-straits-closures-you-14759567)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on June 19, 2018, 11:10:36 am
We all have our own opinions on how we should drive but no one can dispute that what we witnessed this morning was verging on reckless. Leaving Champney's we stopped short of the Links roundabout to allow a pedestrian to cross. He was almost about to step in to the outside lane when a transit style van coming up behind us decided to overtake us ( he could easily see  over the top of our small car) then veer over to the inside lane of the roundabout to make a left turn. Why? Luckily the pedestrian hadn't quite stepped in to his path but would have anticipated he'd stop too as he was in the same lane as us.
So if you see a chocolate brown 65 reg Transit van with no signage on it watch out , the driver is a total idiot.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on June 19, 2018, 01:14:25 pm
Abergele straits A547 closures you need to know about
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a547-abergele-straits-closures-you-14759567 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a547-abergele-straits-closures-you-14759567)

I know it's from the Daily Post so you cannot expect too much accuracy, but surely it should be Abergele Straights ... definition of straits is a narrow waterway connecting two large bodies of water (e.g. Menai Straits, Straits of Bosphorus).  Or is there a large body of water in Abergele and Rhuddlan?  Or am I just being too pedantic?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: squigglev2 on June 19, 2018, 02:19:10 pm
Or am I just being too pedantic?

Depends on context doesn't is? I don't think you'd pick up a fellow forum poster up for that sort of thing (unless perhaps the result was amusing). But you would expect a newspaper to get it right.

At least that was my initial response but  I notice the BBC also can use "Strait", eg at. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-44515089 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-44515089) so, maybe I'm wrong.

 A stretch of road (actually one to be careful on despite its straightness) much closer to me now most definitely is a 'Straight' . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acle_Straight (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acle_Straight)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 19, 2018, 03:23:38 pm
We all have our own opinions on how we should drive but no one can dispute that what we witnessed this morning was verging on reckless. Leaving Champney's we stopped short of the Links roundabout to allow a pedestrian to cross. He was almost about to step in to the outside lane when a transit style van coming up behind us decided to overtake us ( he could easily see  over the top of our small car) then veer over to the inside lane of the roundabout to make a left turn. Why? Luckily the pedestrian hadn't quite stepped in to his path but would have anticipated he'd stop too as he was in the same lane as us.
So if you see a chocolate brown 65 reg Transit van with no signage on it watch out , the driver is a total idiot.

Dave, I take it that you don't have a dash cam in your car because incidents like that should be reported to the Police.   The Police are actively seeking help from the public and will act on dash cam evidence.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on June 19, 2018, 10:27:23 pm
Regrettably not Hugo.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 19, 2018, 10:35:22 pm
That's a shame Dave, I have one on one of my cars and I'm thinking of getting one on the other because of nutters on the road like the one you encountered.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on June 20, 2018, 10:38:38 am
Leaving Llandudno Junction this morning and entering the A55 intersection roundabout I was in the RH lane, as I was going across to the A470 / Betwys turn off. On my left was a black car that simply swung across from the LH lane into the RH lane (such as it is) and didn't even seem to notice me. I had to slam on  avoid a collision but it's not the first time we've encountered people who can't read the road, signal or even see. It still astonishes me when anyone tries to defend that sort of dangerous and thoughtless driving.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 20, 2018, 12:25:31 pm
You can't defend bad driving like that and it's no use trying to fob it off by saying that they probably don't know the area or the road signs are in the wrong place.
Bad driving is what it is, bad driving. It's dangerous and can be lethal and unfortunately seems to be getting worse
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 20, 2018, 02:35:58 pm
Last week I was driving up the Great Orme and had got past all the obstacles in Ty Gwyn Road and crossed the tram track on to the next uphill stretch.
A car was coming down the hill but there was a car parked on my side of the road and just as I was slowing down to give way a bronze coloured Lexus overtook me and raced up the hill with the horn blaring out then cut in front of the oncoming car.
By the half way tram station he was held up by other vehicles and I was then immediately behind him.   Just taking that risk to be one car ahead of me.   Unfortunately the car I was driving had no dash cam so it would have been his word against mine so I didn't bother following him but later checked and saw that his car tax and mot were up to date
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 20, 2018, 07:26:50 pm
The UK is not the only country with idiot drivers       :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWuK-fi-D_w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWuK-fi-D_w)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: TheMedz on June 21, 2018, 10:31:24 pm
Last week I was driving up the Great Orme and had got past all the obstacles in Ty Gwyn Road and crossed the tram track on to the next uphill stretch.
A car was coming down the hill but there was a car parked on my side of the road and just as I was slowing down to give way a bronze coloured Lexus overtook me and raced up the hill with the horn blaring out then cut in front of the oncoming car.
By the half way tram station he was held up by other vehicles and I was then immediately behind him.   Just taking that risk to be one car ahead of me.   Unfortunately the car I was driving had no dash cam so it would have been his word against mine so I didn't bother following him but later checked and saw that his car tax and mot were up to date

We witness at least 5 or 6 examples a day of stupid driving in that section of road. Why does everyone think because someone is giving way means they are parked or that they  have to drive at speed to get up a hill. Add avoiding the occasional tram and not stopping on red light at Black Gate into the mix and it's mayhem.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 27, 2018, 01:04:52 pm
There will soon be average speed cameras on the A55 at Rhuallt Hill

Motorists have been hit with more than £100,000 of fines in two week by new average speed cameras on the A55 .

Drivers clocking speeds of more than 79mph have been been recorded more than 1,000 times at the notorious stretch on Rhuallt Hill .
And one even topped 120mph when they were picked up by the average speed cameras, which came into operation on June 5.

According to data provided by North Wales Police, 1,233 motorists have been caught driving above 79mph between June 5 and June 20.
If all were given the minimum £100 speeding fine, a total of £123,000 would have been collected.

However, 19 motorists were caught speeding at more than 26mph over the limit, meaning they will face an automatic court appearance and a likely increased fine, as well as a potential ban.

Others snared at extremely high speeds included one motorist caught at 118mph and two who were clocked at 117mph.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-average-speed-cameras-dish-14835337 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-average-speed-cameras-dish-14835337)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Mike on June 27, 2018, 04:15:26 pm
Last week I was driving up the Great Orme and had got past all the obstacles in Ty Gwyn Road and crossed the tram track on to the next uphill stretch.
A car was coming down the hill but there was a car parked on my side of the road and just as I was slowing down to give way a bronze coloured Lexus overtook me and raced up the hill with the horn blaring out then cut in front of the oncoming car.
By the half way tram station he was held up by other vehicles and I was then immediately behind him.   Just taking that risk to be one car ahead of me.   Unfortunately the car I was driving had no dash cam so it would have been his word against mine so I didn't bother following him but later checked and saw that his car tax and mot were up to date
THere are signs on that stretch advising motorists coming down the hill to give way to vehicles coming UP the hill, so I suppose the vehicle behind was frustrated that you were giving way to the one coming down.
There are two conlflicting rules - give way because vehicle is on your side vs have right of way because of going up the hill.
I don't know which rule trumps the other and I suppose most people don't either.
I suppose it's just a case of going gently and working something out in every situation. the driver behind you didn't do that and sounds like an impatient agressive driver.
I have noticed though that the buses drive down the hill past the traffic lights where there are cars parked on their side (so both rules against) with speed and relying on their size, presence and limited reversing possibility up the hill to force those coming up to get out of their way.
At the foot of the hill there is an 'Unsuitable for buses' sign!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 27, 2018, 08:41:35 pm
As I crossed over the tram rails I saw that same motorist give way to two vehicles about 100 yards ahead of me and that's why I hesitated.
It's easier for the driver coming down the hill to give way but as I had already seen him do it twice before I got anywhere near the car and the guy could have been there all day if all the motorists were like the male driver in the Lexus.
I would have liked to shove his car horn where the Sun don't shine but I had other things to do and in any case wouldn't lower myself to the level of that ignorant pig of a driver
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on June 28, 2018, 09:17:06 pm
Not the sort of vehicle we expected to see in Bodnant car park this afternoon !!!

The road between the A470 and the car park was melting, so this was spreading what appeared to be cement dust.

Not sure why the big news about tarmac melting - it happened a lot in the 1950's !!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: mull on June 28, 2018, 11:24:16 pm
Why worry.
The melting tar will fill all the pot holes.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bosun on July 10, 2018, 01:06:05 pm
The past few weeks have been spent travelling both in this country and a delightful trip to Scandinavia which was fascinating on a number of levels. I was struck by the proliferation of 20mph (or kph equivalents) both streets and complete residential areas in Scandinavia. I Although 20mph areas are not so common in Wales as in England, they are becoming much more common as a case can be made to local authorities by individuals, concerned parents groups, PTA’s, and schools themselves to introduce them, along with the appropriate traffic calming measures and any parent who’s child walks or cycles to school will be happy to see them. This is happening all over the world as communities realise that speed kills; Canada, USA, Australia as well as Europe. As for whole residential areas, to give children that same degree of safety, and for anyone who lives in an area to have had to listen to the ‘boy racers’ screaming around the streets at night, they are a blessing. Whilst there have been many sensible and informed posts off the subject of speed and speed limits on this forum, and it’s enforcement for the safety of us all, sadly, the fact that ‘speed kills’ appears to have been missed by certain people in, amongst other places, North Wales.

And as for statistics, of which I have had far too much to do with, including compiling, collecting and extrapolating, they have been described as one of three types of lies, ‘lies, dammed lies and statistics’, by either Twain, Disraeli or Churchill, dependant on who you prefer, although everything is normally supposed to be a quote by Churchill. The results of statistics can easily be skewed accidentally or inadvertently, or even deliberately by asking the same questions in a different manner or in a different format, often to support a thesis or argument - as we have all seen with local authorities ‘consultants’, whose reports on local affairs always include statistics in favour of the authorities preferred result; the ‘he who pays the piper’ syndrome.

But facts are facts, that is why they are facts. If a child runs into the road and is hit by a vehicle, the cause of the accident is the child running into the road. Fact. The vehicle, if being driven within the speed limit, cannot be considered as the cause of the accident. The next fact is that the speed that the vehicle hits the child is the critical factor as to whether the child lives - or dies. Again, if a vehicle pulls out of a side road into the path of another vehicle, that is cause of the collision. The fact is that the speed at the point of impact greatly determines the amount of damage and injury, or if someone dies. This is not rocket science but a basic principle of the simplest of physics, the faster two items collide, the greater the damage caused. Whilst there are a myriad of other ancillary issues, the fact is that speed is by far the major factor that determines injury or fatality and is the only constant.

Many years ago I gave evidence at Coroners court in the case of a lady (passenger) that was killed in a vehicle driven straight out over ‘give way’ markings directly into the path of a lorry. The lorry was determined by tachograph analysis to have been travelling at 28mph prior to the impact, within the 30mph limit. Both the driver of the lorry and the driver of the car were utterly devastated, and I’m sure they are to this day. The cause of the collision was the car driver not concentrating and failing to see the junction’s ‘give way’ markings. Interestingly, and perhaps poignantly, those roads are today within a 20mph zone. I believe that if if that collision had occurred at 20mph, that lady would not have died.

Driving at lower speeds gives the driver a longer ‘time to react’, which is defined as the time between the presentation to the driver of a hazard and the subsequent response. Within the field of Mental Chronometry this period is known as ‘Reaction Time’. Much published research has been done in this field for many years, but the bottom line in respect to motoring is that the greater the time for the driver, to see, appreciate and react to the hazard, the greater possibility to avoid or mitigate the possibility of collision. You’d think this would be rather obvious, but it certainly isn’t to some drivers. Nor apparently, is the need to concentrate on the matter in hand, i.e. driving; it appears to have become ancillary to texting and telephoning.

So, speed may not be the statistical reason for the RTC, but it is by fact the highest reason for serious injury or death. The impact speed in a collision may be within the speed limit, (whether it is an excessive speed for the circumstances is another matter) however, that does not take into account the speed prior to the impact; the driver may well have been able to significantly reduce the speed of the vehicle in the ‘reaction time’ before the collision, but unable to avoid an actual collision. We’ve all seen the skid marks. (I could go into reams here about Accident Investigation at this point, but as you are probably bored already, I’ll leave that out.)

So it's pretty obvious that speed limits do have to be set, and enforced, for the safety of everyone - and as previously pointed out on this forum, speed limits are the absolute maximum speeds allowed, it does not mean that it is safe to drive at the maximum speed in all conditions.

Unfortunately, and to me it’s unbelievable, that some people really do seem to consider over 1,750 deaths and over 25,000 serious injuries every year on British roads an acceptable risk.  I consider it abhorrent, avoidable and an awful tragedy.   

Mrs B would contribute to this, but I doubt if her reaction to the idiocy of the defence of speed would be as subtle or refined as mine; as a Consultant Pathologist she did too many post-mortems on the victims of road traffic collisions. At one point, due to the deaths and serious injuries on one particular stretch of dual carriageway she and the local Coroner prevailed on the agencies to reduce the speed limit. They did reduce the speed limit, from 70mph down to 50mph. The number of deaths and serious injuries on that stretch of road instantly reduced.

To read that someone who was trained to drive 50 years ago brag that they enjoy the challenge (with 'challenge' comes risk, and that risk is to every other road user) of driving fast today is proof that sadly, the misplaced (and sometimes fatal) belief in one’s own ability is not confined to the young.  It’s ludicrous, stupid and life threatening. Speak to any ‘boy-racer’ speeding around your housing estate or the Evo Triangle and they will also tell you that they enjoy driving fast, and that they are safe drivers. I’m sure Richard Brown would have said the same before he crashed his car into a tree killing three teenage passengers and crippling a third in Menai Bridge.

And this is my last post to the TTF, as I ask that the administrators remove my registration and membership to this forum.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 10, 2018, 01:47:45 pm
Sorry to see you decide you don't want to contribute or associate with the TTF anymore, I guess as you don't want to post again we will not be privy to the reason why.
A shame you have come to such a decision though as your posts have all been valued and I hope you might reconsider. All the best Dave
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 10, 2018, 01:53:53 pm
It's a shame that you don't see fit to debate sensibly and without resorting to veiled abuse on this issue. The use of pejorative verbs does little for your argument, but you're entitled to your views, as all all members.  If you wish to have your registration deleted, that's fine;  you can rejoin if you wish to at any time.

The entire issue of speed, however, cannot be debated sensibly within the narrow examples you choose to give. There are roads in the area which aren't safe to be driven any faster than 10mph, let alone 20, but there are roads on the continent where there are no limits whatsoever, yet the fatal crash rate on those roads is lower than on many UK roads.

On the German autobahns, for example accidents account for 1.6 deaths per billion travel-kilometres and compare very favourably with the 4.6 rate on urban streets and 6.5 rate on rural roads.  If speed were the sole determinant of fatalities on roads, then those statistics would be the other way round. As I said  before speed is not the only issue;  it's simply one of a number of factors. Perhaps a little less hubris would permit a more reasoned approach to the debate.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 12, 2018, 03:47:33 pm
We drove down the A470 yesterday and the Police Arrive Alive Van was parked on someone's verge at the end of the restricted area in Glan Conwy, how long it was there we don't know.     A little further down the A470 between Llanrwst and Betws Y Coed there were tyre marks on the road caused by the dangerous practice of doughnutting,

I know people who have been done by the Arrive Alive van but none  for doughnutting or for that matter driving without any road tax.  It just seems strange.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 12, 2018, 04:17:10 pm
It's a 30mph limit from the moment you enter to the moment you leave BUT surely the dangerous bit isn't at the very end, or for that matter the very beginning because if it was they would extend the speed restricted area. No, this is without doubt a cunning money making plan to catch those out who have safely negotiated the dangerous bit without incident and are now anticipating the open road only a few metres ahead and have just started to speed up but are probably not driving at any great speed.
I'm all for safety, I don't think drivers should be warned about places there are cameras and I don't think the Arrive Alive van should be out in open view either. Go back to sticking someone with a hand held gun in a bus shelter and catch the idiots driving irresponsibly in built up areas.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 12, 2018, 08:12:44 pm
The camera is often parked at the southern end of Glan Conwy, within yards/metres of the change to national speed limit (60 mph) - I had forgotten about it when I went that way yesterday morning but fortunately was following a tanker so was going through at marginally under 30.  My colleague was not so fortunate so is expecting to get done for doing 35 (on his dashboard) - the camera is placed so as to get you as you come round the corner so has got you just as you see it.

As there is miniscule chance of danger at that point then it must be there purely as a money-box, and no really there for safety reasons.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 12, 2018, 08:25:38 pm
Driving along the A470 about 30 minutes ago we encountered a stream of cyclists on an evening cycle rally. Half had no lights on their bikes and the number of vehicles pulling out after seeing them at the last moment beggared belief.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on July 12, 2018, 10:23:13 pm
So... they’ve taken £200,000 off speeding motorists at Rhuallt Hill.
Where does all that money go then?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on July 12, 2018, 10:31:09 pm
FOI request to North Wales Police?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 13, 2018, 07:34:03 am
The Police don't get it, try looking here.
https://gosafe.org/about-us/where-fine-revenue-goes/
Their map is out of date though, no reference to Rhuallt Hill yet.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 13, 2018, 09:25:09 am
So ... they (the go-safe people) claim that nearly half of all motorists driving down Rhuallt were exceeding the speed limit (70mph) so have introduced average speed cameras.

... they now claim that they have "made" £200k from the speeding fines, since installation.

... surely, if the reason for the average speed camers is to reduce accidents then the statistics should not be about the amount of "income" but should be comparing the number of accidents since installing the cameras with the number of accidents over the same period of time before the cameras were installed.  Have any such figures been published?

... statistics giving the amount of income only enforces the fact that they are concentrating on fleecing the safe motorist rather than concentrating on those who have the accidents (and I reckon many of those would actually be within the 70mph speed limit).

... of course speed (movement) is an element in every accident - if nothing moved then there would be no bumps!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 13, 2018, 10:37:46 am
I agree;  it doesn't add up. We need detailed stats on accidents before and after the speed camera installation, plus stats about accidents during the same times of day and year.

It's far from clear whether fining people actually reduces road accidents.  From a Guardian report in 2013:

"Professor Richard Allsop’s RAC Foundation report found that the number of fatal and serious collisions near 551 fixed speed cameras the number of crashes either went down or did not increase by a significant amount; at 21 sites the number of crashes went up by a significant amount."

The entire issue of speed cameras and statistical benefits is fraught with imponderables and unjustified confidence from 'experts'.  People will often say because they've seen the results of serious accidents they 'know' that speed is the problem. And as DVT points out, if all vehicles remained parked all the time, then there'd be almost no accidents on the roads.   

But we live in a society where personal transport and goods transport are critical aspects of that society. The question, therefore, has to be not 'does speed kill' but 'how can we ensure that inevitable accidents result in the fewest possible injuries?'.

The statistics for roads throughout the world don't help that much, either; so much information relevant to statistic outcomes isn't used or incorporated - road maintenance, weather, changes in temperature, catastrophic failure, improvements in vehicular design and much more. The only fact we can be completely sure of is that as speed increases so does the probability of an accident. In other words we're back to DVT's point: if the vehicle stays parked and in the garage, there would be far fewer accidents.

Given that the society in which we live has chosen to allow us to drive on roads, how are speed limits set? Interestingly, there's no scientific studies of any merit that established the 70mph limit. The 70mph and 60mph limits were introduced as a result of the oil crisis in 1974 and kept for road safety purposes afterwards. 40 and 50 mph limits are required in places where the highway design means that it is not safe to travel any faster (usually defined by the safe stopping sight distances to a stationary vehicle in the carriageway). (DoT)

So the basis of their introduction was nothing to do with safety but to save the country money.  There's a substantial body of evidence that suggests reducing speed limits on all motorways to 45mph would allow traffic to move more easily (RTL) but the bottom line is that the main cause of road accidents is driver error.

And you see this every day, on every road. Inability to use roundabouts - particularly those at Black Cat - are a prime example, lack of observation, following too closely behind other vehicles, lack of anticipation, failure to know what signals are for, talking to and looking at the passenger (!!!) while driving, use of the mobile 'phone in the hand - all these add up to not only sloppy and thoughtless driving but dangerous habits and perhaps if these drivers were targeted instead of those who infringe an entirely arbitrary speed limit we might have safer roads.

The UK focuses entirely on speed - because it's the easiest way to collect cash - but perhaps a re-think of targeting is needed to eliminate those drivers who, even at low speed, present a clear and unmistakable danger to the rest of us.






Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 13, 2018, 01:01:33 pm
Whereas I largely agree with you Ian I don't think it's fair to say only speeding drivers are targeted. There are specific campaigns aimed at drink and drug using drivers too.
Rhuallt Hill is an accident black spot and I seem to recall several fatalities there too. What part speed played in all those accidents would be interesting to know but clearly if a car comes whizzing through doing well over a ton it can cause an accident even if it doesn't get directly involved. Average speed cameras might be able to differentiate between a lorry and a car if they are linked to DVLA information but probably not if they are foreign, neither can they tell if a vehicle is towing a trailer I wouldn't think. There are cameras set up along there though so perhaps examples of bad driving can be pursued that way? Having said that there are CCTV cameras in places like Craig-y-Don that should regularly spot vehicles illegally parked on the double yellow lines that make vision limited approaching the pedestrian crossings to say nothing of trying to cross over or turn at this cross roads.
As far as fining people being a deterrent you are probably right, it isn't. If they were a lot higher they might be but what really makes people think twice is the loss of their licence. If you simply award points for an offence though most people will just laugh off the first few before taking notice if they are nearing a ban.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 13, 2018, 06:07:39 pm
I don't really see the average speed cameras on Rhuallt Hill as being any type of problem.    The maximum speed in the UK is 70 mph but that doesn't mean you have to do 70 mph you can do less if you want to but if you do exceed the speed limit then you are breaking the law.
It's as simple as that, so no one can moan if they get caught as it's no one's fault but their own.   

Even if the speed limit was 90 mph you would still get the same people breaking that limit too.


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 13, 2018, 06:20:02 pm
Not always that simple, Hugo.  What if you're travelling down the A470 on a narrow stretch and a ambulance or Police car races up behind you, sirens blaring and blues flashing? Stopping means slowing the ambulance down and the ambulance can't overtake safely because of the narrowness and bends.  In that case, surely you have to drive quicker, so as not to delay the ambulance?

I pose this because it's exactly the situation our eldest found himself in while I was teaching him to drive. What should he have done?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 13, 2018, 07:19:05 pm
That's a different thing altogether Ian so you can't compare the two, but if you want to put it to the test by all means do.  So if it happens to you again on the A470  put your foot down and give the cops a run for their money and then hope that their call out if more important than booking you for speeding.   
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 13, 2018, 08:00:16 pm
It was an ambulance, in fact. The point I'm making is that sometimes laws have to be broken for the greater good.  And of course there is bad law, much of which is repealed as times move on.  It's perhaps sobering to remember that all women in the UK haven't had the legal right to vote for 100 years, yet, and it was only comparatively recently when those in the Gay community were considered criminal.  And we're reminded constantly of the time when slavery was legal.

Laws are established on behalf of the people but the views of those people change all the time. We shouldn't be dogmatic.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 13, 2018, 11:10:21 pm
I remember working with a former Policeman who always  had a saying which was something like this " rules are for fools to follow but wise men to  take heed of them"
At one time I think that we didn't have a speed limit but we do have one now and that is 70 mph but the way some people drive now you would think that there was no speed limit in force.
Now about the blue lights flashing on Police cars behind you, if they can't overtake you what should you do?   I can't advise you because I read about someone who was stopped at the traffic lights which were on red and then a Police car came behind him with it's blue lights on and the siren going off but it couldn't pass him.
What should he have done?
What he did was to move across the line a few yards to allow the Police to get through and continue on their way, but instead they stopped and booked him!
So that's your choice break the law if you want to but don't expect to get away with it
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 14, 2018, 08:40:29 am
I can imagine that. Police are simply people, and come in all varieties.  I was more concerned about the ambulance and the possibility that a delay caused by someone fearing for a few points could jeopardise a life.

Good drivers don't treat the speed limit as a target, and there are places on the A470 where it's certainly unsafe to do so. And anyone doing 30 down Mostyn Street at 0900 is asking for trouble.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 14, 2018, 09:00:15 am
That's a fair point about the ambulance Ian and common sense should be applied there.    It's a shame that all road users don't apply common sense and have consideration for other road users as the roads would be a much safer place.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 14, 2018, 09:46:24 am
Isn't that the big problem these days ... common sense is in such short supply ... and all the do-gooders and H&S people try and make it so that people don't have to use any.

I am spending more time watching the speedo, instead of using common sense by what I see through the windscreen.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 14, 2018, 09:53:44 am
Yes;  I suspect that's become a major issue. Our main car has a HUD, so we no longer have to glance down to see the speedo. but many still do, and if they're desperately trying to avoid a ticket it means they're taking their eyes off the road frequently.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 03, 2018, 01:10:49 pm
I have just come back from Conwy and it looked like a vehicle was blocking the arch by the Castle and there was quite a tailback along the cob
On the A55  the westbound lane was hardly moving on both lanes and from the Black Cat roundabout the traffic in both lanes backed up to Colwyn Bay
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 03, 2018, 05:12:35 pm
The tailback on the A55 was due to a tanker being off the road around the Mochdre area.  Everything had to pull out to pass it, so effectively closing one lane down.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 03, 2018, 05:41:47 pm
Thanks Ian for posting that, it's quite worrying when you see traffic backing up like that as you tend to think that there has been an accident.  Hope that no one was hurt as a result
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 03, 2018, 06:39:16 pm
Certainly weren't an police or ambulances when I passed it at 1230 today, Hugo.
Title: Speed limit enforcement
Post by: Michael on August 06, 2018, 03:22:13 pm
 We all understand the need for speed limits. And practically every driver is aware that the maximum speed limit you can drive at safely varies as to the time of day and the weather. And most of us appreciate that it would be intractable to have different max speed limits to say 8.30 in the morning and 2.00 in the middle of the night. Schools do it, but that is the exception.
  But what sticks in my throat is the way that the traffic enforcers, the speed camera men, appear to delight it setting up in an area at a time when it is perfectly safe to drive at 40 miles an hour. An example. Cayley prom in Rhos. A busy Sunday afternoon in summer. Children and parked cars everywhere. 30 mph definite. Same place, a wet Wednesday morning in February not a soul in site, no car within quarter mile, good vesability. And there we are. The camera van.  It’s good for their business if their business is racking in maximum amount of cash for the least effort.
   So I turn to the dual carriageway between the welcome to llandudno sign and the traffic island at the bottom of the hill in penrhyn bay. A dual carriageway I might add which doesent even have the danger of a road travelling in the opposition direction. It’s about 12 feet lower.
  So. Drive from llandudno over the little Orme at 40mph. At the top reduced to 30 mph. Just as you enter the dual carriageway. I suggest that hundreds of drivers exceed this limit down thus hill.especially in the overtaking lane.
  Towards the bottom on the left is a virtually unused lane leading to the old querry. What a splendid place for a police car. Absolutely impossible for any driver to spot it before it’s too late. Probably took £1000 in the first half hour. On the day last week when it was parked there
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on August 09, 2018, 07:06:57 am
Agreed Mike, that’s one of the most sneaky I’ve heard of.
It does seem highly geared to raking in as much cash as possible.  But, surely not.. Hmmm.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 09, 2018, 08:01:22 am
I wish the Police would have been in that spot to catch the taxi driver from Radio Cabs who overtook me at speed going down the hill.

I did see a Police camera van yesterday by the Cayley embankment but the traffic was going very slow there anyway so I don't think that it was either a deterrent  or a money making activity
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 17, 2018, 02:48:35 pm
Five week upgrade works  to begin on the A55 in September     



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45221306 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45221306)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 17, 2018, 10:22:42 pm
A470 closed between Tal Y Cafn and Maenan due to car crash


A470 crash shuts road - latest updates - https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a470-crash-shuts-road-latest-15044615?utm_source=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a470-crash-shuts-road-latest-15044615?utm_source=sharebar)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SDQ on August 18, 2018, 11:13:10 pm
A470 closed between Tal Y Cafn and Maenan due to car crash


A470 crash shuts road - latest updates - https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a470-crash-shuts-road-latest-15044615?utm_source=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a470-crash-shuts-road-latest-15044615?utm_source=sharebar)


I was working in Llanrwst last night & was warned about the road closure so set off on the back road about 9:40pm. The traffic came to a stand at the bridge at the far side of Dolgarrog (Newborough Bridge?), someone had crashed into the bridge closing the back road. I eventually worked my way back to Llanrwst & set off over the tops trying to get to Old Colwyn. There was an accident up there too! A Transit minibus in a ditch! Luckily I was allowed to pass the scene of this incident but it was gone 11 o’clock before I finally arrived at my house. Nightmare!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 19, 2018, 12:02:07 am
It certainly wasn't your lucky day yesterday SDQ.            At least you arrived safe and sound even if it was a bit late
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 20, 2018, 05:07:59 pm
I saw a vintage Crossville coach this afternoon, on Gloddaeth St. is this unusual ?   I searched Google for an image of the bus, and found the photo below, and I was surprised by the destinations shown, has it been here all the time, or making a return visit ?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 23, 2018, 02:29:15 pm
I've set it up, Steve. I'll move your post into it.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 27, 2018, 11:28:45 am
Seems some people cannot read the signs - went for a casual drive round the Orme on Saturday and met this large van, then a little bit further along two cyclists who had just ridden over the No Entry painted on the road - I did tell them it was one-way to which the male cyclist replied tersely "we know" - in that case, for your own safety, turn round then!

Interestingly the van, reg'n MFZ 2528, tax ran out in March 2018, although it does have MoT until November !!!  Appears to be some sort of contractor as it has orange lights on top, but no sign-writing.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 27, 2018, 12:08:10 pm
It seems to be a pattern with these type of drivers, if they break one law then they are just as likely to drive without road tax or a valid MOT.     
It should be reported to the DVLA  but they would already know about it because it was flagged up on their computer system immediately the tax expired and their record for collecting tax arrears is abysmal

It's a shame that the long arm of the law is not looking at the forum as they would be able to follow this up
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 14, 2018, 06:04:05 pm
On Sunday we drove to Heswall, for a family gathering, spoilt by a nightmare journey, speed warnings, average speed signs, police speed check areas, and cameras, my biggest moan is although, plenty of warning signs, a distinct lack of signs indicating what was the required speed, I am sure I annoyed a few drivers, by driving slowly until I confirmed the limit required.

I am sure it has been said before, but spending your time watching your speedometer, rather than the road........... :'(

And just to cheer us up............

 Meet the 'vulture' - a new speed camera that can catch drivers doing a lot more than just speeding
Featuring new LED infrared equipment, they've started popping up on roads in some parts of the UK.
They've been dubbed the 'yellow vulture' and are so advanced that they can accurately detect drivers eating, using their phones and even smoking behind the wheel.

These are a new breed of speed cameras which bear very little resemblance to the ones we are used to seeing at the side of the road.
And drivers should be wary because they've already been spotted in parts of the UK.

The secret behind the devices' pin-point accuracy is new technology which helps them detect motoring offences any time of day or night and even in very bad weather.

The cameras are equipped with new LED infrared equipment which means they can capture sharper footage and leave little room for ambiguity when it comes to catching offending drivers in the act.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/motoring/motoring-news/meet-vulture-new-speed-camera-15151644 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/motoring/motoring-news/meet-vulture-new-speed-camera-15151644)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 14, 2018, 10:25:51 pm
Seems nowadays if you drive a car you are automatically a law-breaker and should be dealt with accordingly.  "Sorry, officer - I ran into the back of that car because I was too busy watching my dashboard instead of looking through the windscreen."

Someone, somewhere, has obviously spent a lot of time, money, knowledge and expertise to develop such sophisticated equipment that can detect exactly what the driver is doing - I wonder if they should not have spent such resource on equipment to detect the real criminals - the drug dealers, paedophiles, people carrying weapons, etc, etc. ... in other words, try and protect the generally law-abiding public rather than harass them.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2018, 10:39:23 am
Follow up article re above...........

The vulture speed cameras are already on roads in North Wales - here's where
The devices are far more accurate than previous cameras and can detect people on their phones or not wearing seatbelts.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-average-speed-cameras-can-15155238 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-average-speed-cameras-can-15155238)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 15, 2018, 11:20:56 am
There are always two sides to any argument but the generally law abiding motorist doesn't use a mobile phone while driving and always wears a seat belt too.     They don't break the speed limit either as they stick to the speed limit knowing full well that if they speed on a regular basis then they will be banned from driving under the totting up procedure
Perhaps this new technology is a good thing and may free the Police up to do other work and concentrate on other offenders
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2018, 12:10:49 pm
I agree with what you are  saying, apart from a slight change to your comment.... " They don't break the speed limit either as they stick to the speed limit" ............They don't break the speed limit  (knowingly)  either as they stick to the speed limit.
I struggled last Sunday with the lack of speed markers, so fingers crossed no unwelcome visits from the postman.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 15, 2018, 01:17:35 pm
You are spot on there Steve and thanks for adding the word knowingly because that  puts the speeding bit into context.    I've chalked up a few speeding fines in the past but I put my hands up and admit that I was in the wrong and hopefully will learn from my previous mistakes.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: snowcap on September 15, 2018, 09:19:17 pm
drivers spend more time with their eyes closed due to blinking than they do glancing at their speedometers which only takes a blinking second. speed limits are there for a reason so lets just learn to live with the fact.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on September 16, 2018, 08:29:19 am
drivers spend more time with their eyes closed due to blinking than they do glancing at their speedometers which only takes a blinking second. speed limits are there for a reason so lets just learn to live with the fact.

Blinking takes less than a third of a second, and - more importantly - there's no refocussing required. One of our cars has a HUD, where the speed is projected onto the lower part of the windscreen, but appears as though it's ten feet in front. It's infinitely easier to remain within the limits using that method than when I drive the 4 x 4.

Speed limits exist because of a minority of drivers who would drive stupidly and without any regard to the consequences. Of more concern, however, is the fact that by imposing these limits arbitrarily, they tend to act more as a target than a restriction.

A good example of this is the A470 between Black Cat and Llanrwst. Although it's classed as a 60mph stretch there are very few places where it's actually safe to do that speed. Drivers are therefore expected to use their skill, judgement and intelligence when driving the road.

There are also some interesting trends.
   
In 2017 there were 4,556 road accidents involving personal injury recorded by the police, a reduction of 365 on 2016 (7.4 per cent reduction).  These recorded accidents resulted in 6,202 casualties, which was 651 fewer than in 2016. That confirms the steady decline in road deaths across Wales, yet speed limits during that period remained largely unchanged, the number of road users rose year-on-year and traffic has increased each year since reporting began.

Can we, therefore, seriously be expected to believe that speed limits play a major role in reducing accidents?

What concerns me most, however, is the apparently blinkered attitude people have towards the subject. Some are so sure of their own personal experience that there can be no argument. They know everything there is to know about speed and accidents and no amount of reasoned debate will cause them to question what seems to be a blind faith in what they believe.


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: snowcap on September 16, 2018, 11:36:20 pm
the young fellow who won the race today at some fantastic speeds is just as sure to have a crash at some stage in his life as me who has never gone beyond 90 miles an hour. so what does that prove, if he is in a 30 mile limit doing 40 mile an hour when he hits a poor child crossing the road then the damage  done to the child will be far worse than the damage done by a poor driver like me doing 30. i don't care how you try to defend it speeding is not cleaver, by the way when i did 90 there was no speed limit.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on September 17, 2018, 08:09:07 am
I'm not defending speeding;  far from it, but I contend that the real cause of the KSI incidents is not speed per se but the inability of drivers to drive well and intelligently.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 17, 2018, 02:27:16 pm
First story         :'(
Live: A55 Llanddulas roadworks causing long delays
The roadworks, which will see two carriageways closed, are causing delays of around 40 minutes, and are set to last five weeks
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-long-delays-expected-a55-15160169 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-long-delays-expected-a55-15160169)

Second story      :'(     :'(
More misery for drivers as route to avoid A55 roadworks is to close - for roadworks
The B5381 which cuts out the Llanddulas A55 roadworks is to be closed to through traffic.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/more-misery-drivers-route-avoid-15161654 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/more-misery-drivers-route-avoid-15161654)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 18, 2018, 11:18:53 am
Adverts on TV do say that there is more chance of survival if a person is run over when a car is travelling at a slow speed than when the car is travelling a bit faster but I do think it's a combination of both bad driving and speed that causes these fatal accidents.
I had a chat recently with a guy who had been caught speeding by these "average speed cameras" I've always thought that he was  a clever chap until he told me that a Policeman told him that he wouldn't be prosecuted for speeding if his speed was within the 10 per cent tolerance limit.
With that in mind he set his cruise control at 79 mph and then got booked for speeding.     Firstly 10 per cent of 70 mph is 7 mph and secondly don't listen to what others say.  The law is the law and 70 mph is the maximum speed limit you can do.
When I suggested that he should have fixed the cruise control at 69 mph he just shrugged his shoulders
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 21, 2018, 10:54:53 am
Another seven weeks of A55 roadworks planned - and they'll be 'substantial'

- https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/another-seven-weeks-a55-roadworks-15181868?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/another-seven-weeks-a55-roadworks-15181868?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 21, 2018, 11:07:49 am
For the record, we travelled east this morning and went through Old Colwyn no problem at 7.30am.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 21, 2018, 02:01:15 pm
What was it like travelling back west Bri?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2018, 08:30:02 pm
For the record, we travelled east this morning and went through Old Colwyn no problem at 7.30am.

We are off to Manchester Airport in a few days Bri, in the middle of the night....
So, rather than go on to the A55 at Colwyn Bay, I’m going to get diverted before that am I ?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 21, 2018, 09:19:26 pm
We returned after 4pm and hit a queue at Abergele, Hugo, just in time to exit down the slip road by the Kinmel Manor.

However, we immediately hit another queue going up into Abergele so quickly decided to go round the roundabout and back up on the A55.

Two lanes eventually went down to one before the lay-by near Llanddulas and overall I would say we were delayed by about 20-25 minutes.

Going this morning, we went down to one lane just past the Old Colwyn slip road where you look up towards the old Hotel 70..

If you are travelling to the airport in the middle of the night you should be fine but if you are anything like me, Fester, you will still leave home 30 minutes earlier, just in case  :)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 21, 2018, 10:04:02 pm
I drove back from Liverpool on Tuesday night at around 11.00pm and there was no traffic heading west but it looked like the east bound carriageway was closed. You need to check it out Fester. Maybe just a quick detour past the "70 degrees"? ( What should we call it?) 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on September 21, 2018, 11:46:08 pm
Thanks All..
Yes, the eastbound carriageway IS closed during the night, you can’t get on at Colwyn Bay.
That’s why I’m wondering what the best route is, and which way the diversion goes.
After all, there are trucks coming from Holyhead port, heading up the A55 towards England, they’ll have to divert them somewhere?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 22, 2018, 09:04:40 am
My other half thinks that the road closure was while they create a single lane in both directions on one carriageway so it might open again. If so use the 70 Degrees to miss the queue on the A55 which shouldn't be too bad in the middle of the night, even with ferry traffic.

At 4.00pm the other day I went via the Black Cat- Bettws-yn-Rhos - St Asaph route which was fine until the stretch between the cross roads where you turn to Abergele and the road where you can turn to Bodelwyddan. Not too many delays but the speed at which some cars were driving coming the other way was quite alarming.You had to be prepared for everything heading in to blind bends on narrow bits of road.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SDQ on September 22, 2018, 10:23:41 am
Thanks All..
Yes, the eastbound carriageway IS closed during the night, you can’t get on at Colwyn Bay.
That’s why I’m wondering what the best route is, and which way the diversion goes.
After all, there are trucks coming from Holyhead port, heading up the A55 towards England, they’ll have to divert them somewhere?


Driving home from work last night and the eastbound carriageway was open but the westbound was closed. The diversion is likely between Llanddulas and Old Colwyn so it’s pretty straightforward.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 26, 2018, 07:42:48 am
Road to be shut for months while flood management work goes on -

 https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-water-rhos-on-sea-15198306?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-water-rhos-on-sea-15198306?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 28, 2018, 02:01:00 pm

And just to cheer us up............

 Meet the 'vulture' - a new speed camera that can catch drivers doing a lot more than just speeding
Featuring new LED infrared equipment, they've started popping up on roads in some parts of the UK.
They've been dubbed the 'yellow vulture' and are so advanced that they can accurately detect drivers eating, using their phones and even smoking behind the wheel.

These are a new breed of speed cameras which bear very little resemblance to the ones we are used to seeing at the side of the road.
And drivers should be wary because they've already been spotted in parts of the UK.


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/motoring/motoring-news/meet-vulture-new-speed-camera-15151644 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/motoring/motoring-news/meet-vulture-new-speed-camera-15151644)

I've just received an e-mail in response to a FOI  question I've asked the N Wales Police about the yellow Vulture cameras on the A55 and this is the reply I received:-
" We can confirm that the ASE systems we have are only capable of recording speeding offences"        It's a shame that all Police forces are not automatically supplied with the latest technology so that it makes their difficult job easier and then  they can use their resources elsewhere
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: wrex on September 29, 2018, 04:37:21 pm
is next weeks rally going to be a problem with the roadworks on the A55
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: BrianP on September 29, 2018, 10:42:30 pm
The roadworks on the A55 is creating perfect rallying opportunities for drivers on the Betws yn Rhos A5381. Drivers are driving too fast and without due care.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 30, 2018, 11:45:24 am
I got on the A55 at the West End in Colwyn Bay just to get off at the Old Colwyn slip road so that I could take my dog for a walk on the beach in Old Colwyn but it was a big mistake as the traffic was quite heavy.
Returning home on the A55 from Old Colwyn was no problem as the westbound carriageways were flowing freely.
Next time I'll use the promenade if I want to go to Old Colwyn
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 30, 2018, 12:43:48 pm
Next Sunday morning will be very busy when the Wakes Rally GB is in Llandudno.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on September 30, 2018, 01:52:05 pm
Hope everyone concerned can exit their properties during their allotted 5 minute slot . >:(
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2018, 11:36:51 am
Hope everyone concerned can exit their properties during their allotted 5 minute slot . >:(

Mrs H. Went to VC last night, with friends, who told of various problems, from roads closed ( parts of Mostyn St ?)  bus routes changed, and various stops out of service, even the drivers did not know what was going on, ........ Monday night seems a bit early for all the changes  ???
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 12, 2018, 01:32:49 pm
WORKS which have been causing major traffic delays on the A55 for nearly four weeks have finished.
Essential improvement works, on the Kneeshaw Lupton underbridge near Junction 23 to Llanddulas, began on September 17 and were due to be completed next week.
But the works have been completed six days early with roads returning to normal today.

And while they have concluded for now, works on the Eastbound carriageway section of the bridge still need to be done but will be carried out next year.

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16979144.no-more-delays-as-works-on-the-a55-near-llanddulas-come-to-an-end/?ref=mr&lp=3 (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16979144.no-more-delays-as-works-on-the-a55-near-llanddulas-come-to-an-end/?ref=mr&lp=3)


Another article.......Don't blame the roads, don't blame the weather, the main cause of accidents in Conwy is bad drivers, figures reveal.       and speed was never mentioned............

http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16976820.bad-drivers-are-the-main-cause-of-road-accidents-in-conwy/ (http://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/16976820.bad-drivers-are-the-main-cause-of-road-accidents-in-conwy/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 12, 2018, 08:13:24 pm
So figures reveal what most of us already know - it's bad driving that causes accidents!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 13, 2018, 11:05:18 am
Speed might not be listed but loosing control was one of the biggest reasons for an accident happening. It's a combination of both that tends to cause injuries and fatalities.You can be within the speed limit and still be driving too fast but you can't be prosecuted for speeding, just due care and reckless driving so speed wouldn't be mentioned. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 13, 2018, 11:21:31 am
Anyone know why they didn't just carry on and get the A55 roadworks over and done with while the going is good? After all must be cheaper if all the plant and machinery is already on site?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 13, 2018, 12:09:37 pm
Anyone know why they didn't just carry on and get the A55 roadworks over and done with while the going is good? After all must be cheaper if all the plant and machinery is already on site?

DAVE,    That's how the private sector works, but when it's not your money...................... >:(




More road closure information...............RHOS ON SEA    CAYLET PROM.
A SECTION of road in Rhos-on-Sea is set to be closed for four months while works are done to tackle flooding in the area.
   
Welsh Water said the section of road along the promenade between the two entrances to Cayley Promenade will be closed from December to March 2019 while they undertake a £960,000 sustainable drainage scheme.

The utility company said whilst most roads will remain open during the planned work, there will be some closures.

They will start as early as next week with Everard Road closed for six weeks.

The scheme being carried out, called RainScape, will aim to reduce the amount of rainwater which flows into local public drainage systems and will therefore reduce the risk of flooding.
The scheme is anticipated to remove around 17 hectares of the surface water runoff currently entering the sewerage network in the area.
There will also be upgrades to three outfalls in front of Cayley Promenade.

Welsh Water said customers and businesses in the area have been kept informed of the planned work and two "well-attended" information events were held at Porth Eirias to discuss proposals with residents and business owners.
Welsh Water’s programme delivery manager, Daniel Purchase, said: “We are committed to delivering a first class wastewater network to our customers and our investment here reflects this.

"We have carefully planned the scheme to ensure we minimise disruption on local communities and will continue to liaise with local businesses and residents to ensure they are aware of our plans.
"Whilst we are working there will be no impact on the wastewater services to local people”   ref Pioneer


 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 14, 2018, 02:52:31 pm
Not in North Wales thank goodness as we have our fair share of bad drivers here!




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-norfolk-45843691/shocking-dashcam-videos-released-by-police (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-norfolk-45843691/shocking-dashcam-videos-released-by-police)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 16, 2018, 10:28:45 pm
We were driving on the A470 to Betws Y Coed today just after midday and between Betws and Llanrwst we saw the results of a bad two car crash.  There were two Police vehicles in attendance but we didn't see an ambulance on the scene.
Bad driving obviously played a part in the crash but speeding certainly had a major part in it too judging by the skid marks across the road that must have been more than 50 yards long.
I hope that no one was seriously injured as a result of the crash
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 17, 2018, 08:23:22 am
The A470 between Back Cat and Llanrwst is far from suitable for commercial vehicles. Some of the bend radii as you leave Glan Conwy, combined with the narrowness of the road, make it potentially lethal.  And 12 years ago the WA stated improving the road at the dog-leg stretch - mid-way between Bodnant and Maenan - was a priority. So much for progress.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 14, 2018, 04:01:37 pm
Traffic delays can be expected around Conwy Road in Colwyn Bay for the next two weeks.
 
Work to resurface Conway Road will start tomorrow (November 15) and is expected to take around two weeks to complete, weather permitting.
The resurfacing work will take place along the road, from the junction with Woodland Road West to the junction with Queen’s Drive.
Temporary traffic lights will be in place and Conwy County Borough Council said some delays are expected.
An alternative route along Princes Drive will be signposted.
A CCBC spokesperson said: "We apologise for any inconvenience caused by this essential resurfacing work."
ref Pioneer



 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on November 14, 2018, 06:05:59 pm
Not news really......lights have been a feature in that part of Colwyn Bay for the best part of a year for the copper topped thing!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 15, 2018, 10:44:30 am
Not very cheery news............

A town in North Wales has one of the UK's highest drink-drive conviction rates, according to new data.

According to new figures, Llandudno has the seventh highest number of motorists with a conviction for driving while intoxicated.
A review of six million car insurance quotes over the last 12 months found for every 1,000 drivers in the Conwy town, an average of 1.51 have been convicted of driving over the legal limit.

Most convictions                                   Least convictions
1. Hereford - 2.30 in every 1,000           1. NW London - 0.45 in every 1,000
2. Crewe - 1.86 in every 1,000                   2. North London - 0.56 in every 1,000
3. Blackpool - 1.68 in every 1,000           3. East London - 0.61 in every 1,000
4. Sunderland - 1.62 in every 1,000           4. SW London - 0.61 in every 1,000
5. Newport - 1.58 in every 1,000                   5.Galashiels - 0.62 in every 1,000
6. Cardiff - 1.52 in every 1,000                   6. Bradford - 0.66 in every 1,000
7. Llandudno - 1.51 in every 1,000           7. Perth - 0.66 in every 1,000
8. Liverpool - 1.50 in every 1,000           8. Cambridge - 0.67 in every 1,000
9. Darlington - 1.48 in every 1,000           9. West London - 0.67 in every 1,000
10. Telford - 1.47 in every 1,000                 10. Luton - 0.68 in every 1,000
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-town-thats-uk-15548603 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-town-thats-uk-15548603)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on December 15, 2018, 07:19:29 pm
Are these stats based on the accused's post code or the Magistrates Court that heard the case? If it is the second then it could be visitors that are causing the high figure of course!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 15, 2018, 10:42:34 pm
Convictions are made through the Magistrates Court in Llandudno and that Court covers a wide area so it's unfair to credit the town with all those convictions.
Whoever compiled those statistics should have done a bit more research before publishing those figures and I would expect the Llandudno council to respond to the article in the Daily Post
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Cambrian on December 16, 2018, 08:15:49 am
The implication is that the data is drawn from "insurance quotes" so it might just relate to the LL postcode which is most of North Wales.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on December 16, 2018, 10:02:18 am
Hugo as you say Llandudno court does cases from all over ( even sit at week ends ) how may were stopped on the a 55 going to Holyhead or the other way 🤔 It makes Llandudno look bad but our council won't take it up 😡
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 16, 2018, 11:51:50 am
Norman,  if the Llandudno Town councillors have anything about them then they should take the matter up with the Daily Post.    If they don't then they are not representing the town and it's image
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: wrex on December 16, 2018, 09:45:12 pm
money has been found to sort out exit onto Mostyn Broadway from Mostyn Champneys ,im suprised there has never been a seriou accident there
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Meleri on December 17, 2018, 10:21:48 am
There is a burst water main in Berry Street Conwy Town, the road has been closed and traffic diverted to the A55
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: bigbadhenry on December 17, 2018, 10:58:58 am
The implication is that the data is drawn from "insurance quotes" so it might just relate to the LL postcode which is most of North Wales.

The street with the most crime in Llandudno is Ffordd Penrhyn due to it being the address of ASDA
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 20, 2018, 02:45:17 pm
I got on the A55 at Llandudno Junction to travel to Colwyn Bay and it was a big mistake as the traffic was nose to tail all the way to Mochdre
I've no idea what caused the tailback but it took over 30 minutes just to get from the Junction to Mochdre but once past Mochdre the traffic was flowing freely
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 05, 2019, 11:01:52 am
Operation Snap: 2,300 dashcam clips sent to police

Dashcam footage sent to police has led to hundreds of motorists being fined and prosecuted in Welsh courts over the last year.

As well as dangerous driving and using a phone behind the wheel, two drivers were caught with dogs on their laps.

Operation Snap was rolled out across Wales to process footage as police try to tackle "bad driving".

More than 2,300 dashcam films were sent in and action was taken in more than 650 cases.                                         

Continued       https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46424514 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46424514)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 05, 2019, 11:53:23 am
The Police can't be everywhere so it proves how useful the dash cam is in bringing to justice bad drivers.       It makes you wonder what else they could be guilty of if they drive so recklessly.
I posted something on here that happened to me recently and I've since found out that the vehicle was driving on fake plates and outside the house was another vehicle which had obvious fake plates too.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 20, 2019, 12:20:12 pm
This is where every speed camera in North Wales is in 2019
You shouldn't be speeding - but here's where GoSafe cameras are placed across Anglesey, Gwynedd, Conwy, Denbighshire, Flintshire and Wrexham.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/every-speed-camera-north-wales-15699311 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/every-speed-camera-north-wales-15699311)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on January 20, 2019, 04:39:16 pm
All roads where the Police use mobile speed cameras have warning signs indicating so and the fixed cameras are painted bright yellow so it's already common knowledge, the Daily Post must have had a slow news day!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 22, 2019, 02:42:04 pm
Snow causes crashes and hold ups on the A55

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46962222 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46962222)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 27, 2019, 12:28:24 pm
A SECTION of the A55 will be closed during the early part of next week.

The portion of the carriageway covered is the A55 eastbound section between junction 23 at Llanddulas and junction 24 (Abergele).

The section will be closed from 8pm on Monday, January 28 until 6am on Thursday, January 31.

This is in order to carry out essential carriageway surfacing repairs.

As a result, traffic will be diverted off the A55 eastbound carriageway at junction 23 (Llanddulas) along the A547 through Abergele to rejoin the A55 eastbound carriageway at junction 24.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 27, 2019, 12:31:08 pm
That'll be a lot of fun for Abergele Steve.       ;D
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 30, 2019, 11:18:37 am
Hearing rumors about road conditions on the Orme, lot of snow causing small accidents, cars sliding into each other, Police are in attendance.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2019, 12:13:50 pm
There has been quite a bit of snow up here on the heights and the snow on the side roads has been compacted and is slippy.    I dug the snow from a neighbours drive then started on my own drive and did half of it before some more heavy snow came.
More snow is expected tomorrow so I left it for now

Snowdon avalanche rescue as snow closes schools and roads


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47047347 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47047347)



Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 30, 2019, 02:36:08 pm
Hearing rumors about road conditions on the Orme, lot of snow causing small accidents, cars sliding into each other, Police are in attendance.
Motorists urged to stay off Llandudno's Great Orme after minor crashes

Warning on Facebook urging people not to drive on the Great Orme unless necessary after being involved in one of the minor crashes.
"Our car slid straight into the wall, I couldn't stop it. It did some damage to our bumper and wing."

Another Llandudno resident said they stopped a further three drivers from heading to the summit because of the danger it posed.
North Wales Police received one report of an accident in the area at about 8.30am on Wednesday morning.

The road traffic collision (RTC), which involved one vehicle, took place on Bryniau Road near Church Crescent but no one was injured.
Police have urged motorists to take care when driving on the roads during the snowy conditions.
"Please consider your journey, drive safely, slow down and be mindful of the conditions."    ref Pioneer

     
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 30, 2019, 06:30:28 pm
Thanks for posting that article Steve,  it made me remember a similar incident there a few years ago.   The Medz who had a good view of that area posted about an accident near the traffic lights on the Great Orme in similar Wintery conditions.
The first photo is of a house, which was originally a shop and it is on the junction of Old Road and Ty Gwyn Road and a car coming down the Great Orme slid and caused structural damage to the property.    It was deemed unsafe by the authorities and the tenant had to evacuate the property.
The last time I walked past the place I noticed that a number of bollards had been put around the front of the property to save a similar thing happening again
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 31, 2019, 12:06:46 pm
 Snow, sleet and freezing fog in North Wales with temperatures set to drop to -8C




https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-snow-ice-continue-cause-15751710?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-snow-ice-continue-cause-15751710?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 31, 2019, 02:15:44 pm
Hugo,     Ouch, I think I would want more than a few bollards, if I lived there...... they are reporting up to nine cars getting into trouble yesterday.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Blongb on January 31, 2019, 02:36:22 pm
Hugo,     Ouch, I think I would want more than a few bollards, if I lived there...... they are reporting up to nine cars getting into trouble yesterday.
Just because CCBC didn't grit the road. As it's a known black spot every time it freezes, I wonder if it would be feasible to bring a Civil action against them for negligence. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 31, 2019, 03:07:43 pm
Hugo,     Ouch, I think I would want more than a few bollards, if I lived there...... they are reporting up to nine cars getting into trouble yesterday.

Me too Steve and that structural damage wasn't the first time that that property was hit by a vehicle
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 31, 2019, 11:06:00 pm
If coping with icy conditions wasn't bad enough,  you get this motorist driving the wrong way down the  A55  -

 https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorist-driving-wrong-way-down-15763909?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorist-driving-wrong-way-down-15763909?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on February 01, 2019, 08:16:24 am
Today's "Headline News' on BBC was 'Heavy snow sweeps across Britain', which demonstrated the BBC's Southerly bias all too clearly. The main snowfall didn't even make it up here, yesterday, and the depths reported in the worst hit areas were only two or three inches.  So it was neither 'heavy' nor 'sweeping across Britain', other than in the most generous interpretation.

It continues to irritate that the BBC judges news importance according to its geographical location.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 01, 2019, 09:00:55 am
You are quite correct in what you say Ian, but I'm glad in this instance that they are wrong about the snow in this area as I've dug out my drive and a neighbours 4 times already this week.
The north & south divide does exist even here in Wales and it's quite annoying at times
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 03, 2019, 02:45:16 pm
Tregarth Dragon sculpture prompts Police road safety warning


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47103392 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47103392)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 05, 2019, 03:13:24 pm
"Treacherous" road on Llandudno's Great Orme "not a first priority" for gritters.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17410179.treacherous-road-on-llandudnos-great-orme-not-a-first-priority-for-gritters/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17410179.treacherous-road-on-llandudnos-great-orme-not-a-first-priority-for-gritters/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Meleri on February 06, 2019, 01:38:48 pm
Road improvements will start 18th February until 22nd March at Asda Crossroads, Conwy Road, Llandudno. They will be widening the road in front of the Fire/Ambulance station & also widening the pedestrian crossing. The right turn at the traffic lights from the retail park into Asda will be removed. Improvements are being made to the crossroads on Conwy Road to make it safer for pedestrians & to speed up the traffic light sequence.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 06, 2019, 03:33:49 pm
There is a four way traffic light system in place in Kinmel Bay at the moment and Mrs H was travelling from Rhyl  this week when she had to stop at the lights.
She noticed some "amber gamblers"  while the other lights were changing so when it was her turn to move off she waited for the green light to come on then she moved off.
About half way across another motorist from a different direction nearly rammed into her car, only managing to come to a stop inches from her door.
He had obviously come through the lights while they were on red, thankfully no one was hurt or the vehicles damaged but it could easily have been so different
If anyone else is going in that direction please proceed with caution as there are nutters on the road
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 06, 2019, 03:40:47 pm
Another nutter on the road, this time on the A470 by Dolwyddelan


 Police make drink drive arrest after chase which left man fighting for his life -

 https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/local-arrested-suspicion-drink-driving-15788688?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/local-arrested-suspicion-drink-driving-15788688?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar)















Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 11, 2019, 01:11:52 pm
The truth about which age group is REALLY the most dangerous on the road
Statistics from North Wales Police have shed light on who is involved in or causes more crashes.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/truth-age-group-really-most-15789954 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/truth-age-group-really-most-15789954)

Shocking figures reveal scale of drink and drug driving in North Wales
Information from the Ministry of Justice shows how many people have been disqualified.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shocking-figures-reveal-scale-drink-15726962 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shocking-figures-reveal-scale-drink-15726962)
Title: Re: Roads in the area Llandudno road closures this weekend
Post by: SteveH on February 13, 2019, 09:42:54 am
Cambrian Rally in town this weekend.................

Mostyn Street, in Llandudno will be closed to all traffic on Friday and Saturday, as for the first time in the Rally's history the service park will be in the centre of Llandudno. Bus services into Llandudno that usually terminate on Gloddaeth Street/Gloddaeth Avenue will be terminating at Law Courts. No services on the 15th and 16th will stop at Mostyn Street, Lloyd Street or Trinity Square.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DaveR on February 15, 2019, 09:38:08 am
Town is very quiet as a result of the Mostyn St closure:
Title: Re: Roads in the area Llandudno road closures this weekend
Post by: llandudnotrust on February 15, 2019, 01:22:27 pm
Cambrian Rally in town this weekend.................

Mostyn Street, in Llandudno will be closed to all traffic on Friday and Saturday, as for the first time in the Rally's history the service park will be in the centre of Llandudno. Bus services into Llandudno that usually terminate on Gloddaeth Street/Gloddaeth Avenue will be terminating at Law Courts. No services on the 15th and 16th will stop at Mostyn Street, Lloyd Street or Trinity Square.
[Free shuttle Bus is operating from Law Courts around Town
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on February 15, 2019, 11:50:47 pm
Rally?....RALLY??
My afternoon coffee time at West Shore Cafe was brutally truncated by the arrival of scores of those noisy, polluting, gas guzzling, smelly, ignorant Bas£&@rds!! 
They rival the Great Orme tour bus for the amount of life shortening filth they spew out.
My visits to the Mostyn St post office and the bank were blocked by the event, so I went to West Shore to get away from them.
But No! ......oh no.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on February 16, 2019, 09:31:48 am
 ;D ;D ;D

Life can be hard.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Fester on February 16, 2019, 01:51:40 pm
Delighted to see the traffic warden slapping fines on every single one of the Cambrian Rally cars parked on the side roads in Llandudno today.  Every man Jack of ‘em!
90 minute zones mean exactly that!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2019, 10:21:49 am
So what does everyone think about the new road layout outside the Craigside Inn? The road is now split into three lanes - one very narrow lane coming down and two lanes going uphill. I think the main difficulty lies with people driving uphill who wish to turn right into the Craigside Inn, they will effectively be stationary in the overtaking lane as they wait for a gap in the traffic coming downhill, surely?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Daihardwelshman on February 20, 2019, 11:01:59 am
They have now put white lines in the outside lane and lined out a junction to turn into Craigside. I thought it was a bit odd when i first saw the new layout on monday.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DaveR on February 20, 2019, 02:22:30 pm
They have now put white lines in the outside lane and lined out a junction to turn into Craigside. I thought it was a bit odd when i first saw the new layout on monday.
Ah that makes more sense - will take a look later.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 24, 2019, 10:54:00 am
Yesterday we drove across the Tal Y Cafn bridge and there was a notice saying that the bridge is closing on 25th Feb 2019.    It will be closed for FIVE weeks while work on it is going on
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on February 24, 2019, 01:36:21 pm
Who on earth decided to put red lines across the road on the approach to the roundabout between Marl Farm and Black Cat on the A470 (the roundabout at the top of the hill where Narrow Lane goes off).  It's like driving along a railway line with just the sleepers in place, plays havoc with the suspension on my two-month old car, and that is at 20mph.  Also nearly shakes my teeth out even at that slow speed.

Why are highways department putting up so many obstructions to drivers - these red lines, pavements that extend outwards at irregular intervals, speed pumps, extra traffic islands, extra lanes.  Fill in the potholes instead, please.

Be interesting to see if there are more accidents as a result of the roads not being so clear, but I doubt we will ever get that comparative information.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 25, 2019, 06:35:44 pm
Yesterday we drove across the Tal Y Cafn bridge and there was a notice saying that the bridge is closing on 25th Feb 2019.    It will be closed for FIVE weeks while work on it is going on

12 mile diversion for bridge repair


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47356078 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47356078)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on February 25, 2019, 10:30:49 pm
Tal-y-Cafn Bridge was built in 1897, although it was re-surfaced in 1978 !!!

Unfortunate numeric anagram there !!!

http://historypoints.org/index.php?page=tal-y-cafn-bridge (http://historypoints.org/index.php?page=tal-y-cafn-bridge)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 02, 2019, 07:30:58 am
Who on earth decided to put red lines across the road on the approach to the roundabout between Marl Farm and Black Cat on the A470 (the roundabout at the top of the hill where Narrow Lane goes off).  It's like driving along a railway line with just the sleepers in place, plays havoc with the suspension on my two-month old car, and that is at 20mph.  Also nearly shakes my teeth out even at that slow speed.

Why are highways department putting up so many obstructions to drivers - these red lines, pavements that extend outwards at irregular intervals, speed pumps, extra traffic islands, extra lanes.  Fill in the potholes instead, please.

Be interesting to see if there are more accidents as a result of the roads not being so clear, but I doubt we will ever get that comparative information.

We drove over those awful red stripes yesterday in our Mercedes CL55 AMG,  very uncomfortable even in that car with its ABC suspension.  Almost as bad as the dreaded speed humps!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 05, 2019, 06:23:45 pm
I drove along that stretch of the A470 today and DVT wasn't exaggerating, it really is a bit of a boneshaker     
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on March 05, 2019, 08:27:14 pm
Someone mentioned imagine being in an ambulance having a heart attack going over them lines.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on March 06, 2019, 08:10:21 am
...or if you are a patient with a neck or back injury.

... my car has adjustable suspension, and flicking the switch to "comfort" setting (the softest suspension) helps a little.  In the normal "sport" mode it is awful, and if I switch to "R" mode it is totally unbearable and I am sure is damaging the car, even at less than 20mph.  I'm all for road safety but this is, to my mind, is making things more dangerous.

... who is responsible for this?  Who can we complain to?  Were the emergency services consulted?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on March 06, 2019, 09:04:42 am
They do seem absurd, on the face of it and my understanding is that there has to be a case made before these things can be added.  So questions to CCBC (if it is CCBC and not Highways Wales):

1. What evidence was provided to justify the creation of these bumps?
2. Who - specifically - authorised their installation and what case did they make?
3. What evidence exists in terms of serious collisions exists at the roundabouts concerned?


One thing that worries me a little is the amount of road works that have been taking place recently and whether they may be allied to the concept of using the current year's financial allocation unless it is clawed back on April 6th. IN which case, the fault lies with the WA. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DaveR on March 12, 2019, 10:31:17 am
Who on earth decided to put red lines across the road on the approach to the roundabout between Marl Farm and Black Cat on the A470 (the roundabout at the top of the hill where Narrow Lane goes off).  It's like driving along a railway line with just the sleepers in place, plays havoc with the suspension on my two-month old car, and that is at 20mph.  Also nearly shakes my teeth out even at that slow speed.

Why are highways department putting up so many obstructions to drivers - these red lines, pavements that extend outwards at irregular intervals, speed pumps, extra traffic islands, extra lanes.  Fill in the potholes instead, please.

Be interesting to see if there are more accidents as a result of the roads not being so clear, but I doubt we will ever get that comparative information.

We drove over those awful red stripes yesterday in our Mercedes CL55 AMG,  very uncomfortable even in that car with its ABC suspension.  Almost as bad as the dreaded speed humps!

You have abandoned British Leyland, Andy?!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 14, 2019, 04:45:09 pm
A55 ROADWORKS BAN     ???
The announcement that will come as amazing news for A55 drivers -

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-ban-announced-how-15973831?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-ban-announced-how-15973831?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 15, 2019, 10:24:47 am
Who on earth decided to put red lines across the road on the approach to the roundabout between Marl Farm and Black Cat on the A470 (the roundabout at the top of the hill where Narrow Lane goes off).  It's like driving along a railway line with just the sleepers in place, plays havoc with the suspension on my two-month old car, and that is at 20mph.  Also nearly shakes my teeth out even at that slow speed.

Why are highways department putting up so many obstructions to drivers - these red lines, pavements that extend outwards at irregular intervals, speed pumps, extra traffic islands, extra lanes.  Fill in the potholes instead, please.

Be interesting to see if there are more accidents as a result of the roads not being so clear, but I doubt we will ever get that comparative information.

We drove over those awful red stripes yesterday in our Mercedes CL55 AMG,  very uncomfortable even in that car with its ABC suspension.  Almost as bad as the dreaded speed humps!

You have abandoned British Leyland, Andy?!
Yes Dave, a long time ago, 4 Mercedes Benz cars now, wonderful machines! This is a CL55 AMG, amazing car.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DaveR on March 16, 2019, 02:05:04 pm
Who on earth decided to put red lines across the road on the approach to the roundabout between Marl Farm and Black Cat on the A470 (the roundabout at the top of the hill where Narrow Lane goes off).  It's like driving along a railway line with just the sleepers in place, plays havoc with the suspension on my two-month old car, and that is at 20mph.  Also nearly shakes my teeth out even at that slow speed.

Why are highways department putting up so many obstructions to drivers - these red lines, pavements that extend outwards at irregular intervals, speed pumps, extra traffic islands, extra lanes.  Fill in the potholes instead, please.

Be interesting to see if there are more accidents as a result of the roads not being so clear, but I doubt we will ever get that comparative information.

We drove over those awful red stripes yesterday in our Mercedes CL55 AMG,  very uncomfortable even in that car with its ABC suspension.  Almost as bad as the dreaded speed humps!

You have abandoned British Leyland, Andy?!
Yes Dave, a long time ago, 4 Mercedes Benz cars now, wonderful machines! This is a CL55 AMG, amazing car.
Good for you, mate. Glad you and H are enjoying life.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Merddin Emrys on March 16, 2019, 09:03:56 pm
Thanks to your great tip about GVC Dave, many thanks for that!  :)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 17, 2019, 12:57:14 pm
Some places and roads have been affected by the recent heavy rainfall

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47601346 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47601346)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 30, 2019, 09:27:20 am
THE Tal-y-Cafn bridge in the Conwy Valley which was closed for maintenance has reopened on schedule.

The bridge, which closed five weeks ago, is the only crossing over the River Conwy between Llanrwst and Conwy. It necessitated a 12 miles long diversion.
The work included replacing waterproofing on the concrete deck; replacing joints; upgrading drainage; repairing concrete and resurfacing.                    ref Pioneer
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on April 01, 2019, 02:11:11 pm
Asda traffic lights.... cars continuing to miss the new "No Right Turn" sign when trying to cross from town direction in to Asda. Beware that there are no give way signs either so if you approach from the Links Roundabout take care!! If you are coming from the other direction Pay Attention!!!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 04, 2019, 12:09:14 pm
TOLLS for the Great Orme’s Marine Drive have been increased by up to 50 per cent causing protest in Llandudno.

One resident described the increase by Conwy County Borough council as exorbitant.

Gareth Pritchard said: “How can the council justify raising the season permit charge from £20 to £30 from the 1st of April? A 50 per cent increase is exorbitant. It's not an April Fool's joke, it is a bad joke.”

He added: “This won’t help tourism, which the town’s economy depends upon. It won’t help local people either, how many residents would want to drive round the Orme at least nine times to justify paying the charge?”

A spokesperson for the council said: “We review costs annually. The toll pays for maintenance works and upkeep of Marine Drive which is a beautiful five mile route with spectacular views, and we consider these prices are good value for money.”

The old and new fares are: bicycles are free; motorbikes have increased from £1.50 to £1.80; cars from £3 to £3.50; minibuses from £5.50 to £6.50; coaches from £6.50 to £10.00 (by agreement only, weight limit is nine tonnes) and a season permit goes up from £20 to £30.   ref Pioneer

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Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 05, 2019, 11:45:26 am
A55 roundabout removal options revealed - and it's good news for some homeowners

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-roundabout-removal-options-revealed-16079968?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/a55-roundabout-removal-options-revealed-16079968?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 07, 2019, 04:09:39 pm
But not good news for others in Llanfairfechan                  Families to be forced from homes for A55 roundabout removal -


 https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/families-forced-homes-a55-roundabout-16086228?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/families-forced-homes-a55-roundabout-16086228?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 10, 2019, 04:52:31 pm
Yesterday I drove from St Asaph to Trefnant along the Upper Denbigh Road and there were long road works just by the old Hospital but the delay wasn't too bad.
This morning though I drove along the coast Road to Rhyl and the road works at Kinmel Bay are horrific, so allow more time if you are unfortunate to have to drive to Rhyl
It's a four way system so expect some delay but watch out for the idiots going through on the red light as a crash there seems inevitable at some time
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Meleri on May 15, 2019, 02:59:48 pm
Sychnant Pass Road closure from 8.00 Tuesday 28th May reopens 17.00 Thursday 30th May, for urgent repair work to the cattle grid. The road will be closed to vehicles & walkers between Coet Mor Farm & Tyrau Duon.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 22, 2019, 03:51:08 pm
One for the diary...................

A stretch of the A55 will be closed for five weeks later this year as "vital" bridge repair works continue.

The Welsh Government has announced the second phase of a scheme to fix the Kneeshaw Lupton bridge at Llanddulas will begin on Sunday, September 8.
A contraflow system will be in place 24 hours a day, with a single lane of traffic in each direction of the westbound carriageway being installed between Llanddulas and Old Colwyn .
The eastbound carriageway will be closed while the work is carried out.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stretch-a55-closed-five-weeks-16314677 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stretch-a55-closed-five-weeks-16314677)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 24, 2019, 12:24:19 pm
There have been various discussions on the forum, regarding speed, this article raises the question again, this time reducing the residential
speed to 20MPH nationwide, the poll is saying 80% against reduction...........  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/speed-limit-planned-residential-roads-16324646 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/speed-limit-planned-residential-roads-16324646)


Bearing in mind these austere times this paragraph in the piece stunned me............    "Across this whole Assembly term, my colleague Ken Skates has provided hundreds of millions of pounds for small area 20mph zones.       $angry$
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 30, 2019, 05:05:04 pm
Traffic Warden drives the wrong way in a one way street in Old Colwyn.       One rule for them and one rule for us but this is not the first time that a Traffic Warden in Old Colwyn has broken the rules in order to dish out parking fines to the general public


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/traffic-warden-filmed-driving-wrong-16349126 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/traffic-warden-filmed-driving-wrong-16349126)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 13, 2019, 01:03:43 pm
List of roads closed in N Wales due to flooding


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/roads-closed-due-flooding-north-16422729 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/roads-closed-due-flooding-north-16422729)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 22, 2019, 09:42:19 am
Almost 10,000 motorists have been caught speeding in just one year by cameras installed on a stretch of the A55.

According to the figures, if all the speeding motorists were given the minimum £100 fine, the cameras would have brought in £963,700 from speeding drivers.

Full article and  comments      https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/staggering-number-motorists-caught-a55-16468098 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/staggering-number-motorists-caught-a55-16468098)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on June 22, 2019, 10:43:15 am
Interesting comments below the article:

"Dave says:

I did an FOI request on these figures. Only 14% of the speeding vehicles were above 79mph (the 10% plus 2). As for safety, since 2005 only once has there been an accident where excess speed was deemed a factor.

There are 4 identified accident blackspots on the A55 and Rhuallt Hill isn't one of them! However it is the only one making money for the Welsh Government. Go figure!"
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on June 22, 2019, 02:34:40 pm
There are many in powerful places that won't be happy until all cars are electric, maximum speed 20mph and we have to employ someone with a red flag to walk in front of them.  That way there would be no tax collected from fuel sales or speeding fines, but there will be no dole queues or people gaining all sorts of unemplyment benefits, and no need to maintain roads, so the books will balance.

Fortunately, I probably won't be here to see that day.

It isn't speed that causes accidents - it's something else, usually driver error or sometimes mechanical failure - speed has an effect on the outcome but is not the only reason for an incident - there have been fatalties at less than 30mph and equally people have walked away from 100mph incidents.  If speed was the cause then surely many of those who were deemed to have been over the limit would have been involved in an incident - it seems none, or very few at least, were.

Drive safely - concentrate on what is front of (and around) you, instead of watching your dashboard.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 22, 2019, 04:21:50 pm
I read the article posted by Steve and read a comment by Dave which was   " I did an FOI request on these figures. Only 14% of the speeding vehicles were above 79mph (the 10% plus 2). As for safety, since 2005 only once has there been an accident where excess speed was deemed a factor. "
It's totally irrelevant,  even if the speed limit was 90 mph you will still get people breaking the speed limit
The speed limit in the UK is 70 mph whether you like it or not and the law applies to Lewis Hamilton as it also does to Joe Public
What those motorists did was illegal, they broke the law,it's as simple as that so they can't complain afterwards as there are enough road signs about
Even is all cars were fitted with a cruise control you would still get people not using it and think that they can get away with breaking the law, perhaps those drivers will think twice before breaking the speed limit again
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on June 22, 2019, 10:22:02 pm
I have just returned from a trip down, and back up,  the A470 in the Conwy Valley.

The A470 from Llanrwst to Betws-y-Coed is now subject to a "temporary" 30mph speed limit.  There were not many vehicles on the road.

I am informed this is so that motorists become used to the 30mph limit that will be imposed when the Eisteddfod is on - I suspect when it is on you won't be able to move at more than 30mph anyway due to congestion.

So, why the 30mph limit now?

Beggars belief.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on June 23, 2019, 09:05:10 am
I am informed this is so that motorists become used to the 30mph limit that will be imposed when the Eisteddfod is on - I suspect when it is on you won't be able to move at more than 30mph anyway due to congestion.

 _))* _))* _))*  So true, so very, very true.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 23, 2019, 06:11:15 pm
There was an accident at the Black Cat roundabout involving a motorbike

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-scene-crash-16474116 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-scene-crash-16474116)
Title: Re: Roads in the area...... Col.Bay Old Highway closing for repairs
Post by: SteveH on June 25, 2019, 06:17:24 pm
Colwyn Bay road to shut for week for tree work                                        ref DP
The Old Highway will be shut for five days from 8.30am to 5pm

The Old Highway in Colwyn bay is set to close for a week in July for tree safety work.

The road will be shut from 8:30 am until 5:00 pm each day from July 1 until July 5 between Rhiw road and Pwllycrochan Woods, during this period the road will be closed to both pedestrians and motorists.

The council have also warned that for work to be completed safely the woodland path that runs parallel with the Old Highway will also be closed to pedestrians.
There will be no access from Pen y Bryn Road onto the Old Highway.

Conwy council said local residents have been informed of the closure and they are urging motorists to find an alternative route and to allow extra time to their journey.

A council spokesperson said they are asking residents not to park on the Old Highway in the days leading up to the work or during its completion.
The essential work is scheduled to increase safety along the tree line of the Pwllycrochan Woods Nature Reserve following a number of incidents involving tree safety.

"We survey roadside trees on a scheduled basis and take action where safety work is needed."
Two weeks ago a branch fell  onto the Old Highway and blocked it to traffic.
Residents can report any tree safety issues or causes of concern to the local council or to the non-emergency police number 101.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 03, 2019, 09:56:11 am
New images of A55 junction plans revealed
The Welsh Government's preferred option includes an overbridge, and new slip roads would be constructed.

New images showing the preferred options for the replacement of two roundabouts on the A55 have been published by the Welsh Government.
The £26m project aims to remove the two roundabouts at junctions 15 and 16 and replace them with upgraded junctions.
Cont   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-images-a55-junction-plans-16512005 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-images-a55-junction-plans-16512005)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 10, 2019, 12:19:15 pm
As the date of the Eisteddfod in Llanrwst nears, the traffic arrangements are going to cause problems for local residents - to put it mildly.

From Conwy's website:

"The event is to be held alongside the A470 on land to the south of Llanrwst town centre, and arrangement have been put in place in order to avoid directing vehicles through the town’s narrow streets.

A special traffic management system will be in place of the Eisteddfod week which will limit the use of some roads in order to maintain traffic flow.  This will include implementing a one-way system over Llanrwst bridge which will be available to those traveling away from the town only."

Apart from the lamentable English ("in place of the Eisteddfod week" should read "in place during the Eisteddfod week" while "traveling" is spelt "travelling" and "arrangement" should read "arrangements")  which makes one wonder if they have anyone with even basic literacy employed to check, this is going to  cause a great deal of inconvenience for those living in Trefriw.

Combine that with the usual influx of visitors to the area and it seems a recipe for disaster. However, good organisation from a Council that makes three basic errors in five lines of text is probably too much to hope for and is ample justification of the low opinion many local people have of the calamitous CCBC.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on July 10, 2019, 08:43:30 pm
At least they did not use 'planfing'........as we all know there is no f in planning!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 17, 2019, 05:10:58 pm
We drove to Holywell early this afternoon and there was a long tailback after the Caerwys turn off but thankfully there was no accident on the road but the delay was due to a motor home breaking down.
The A55 was done on the cheap and like a lot of sections of the road there was no hard shoulder for the vehicle to pull into so anything like this was always going to create a tailback
Coming home down Rhuallt hill the cars were flying past us so the average speed cameras are bound to pick up the offending vehicles
Title: Re: Roads in the area ..........Bryniau Rd, closed
Post by: SteveH on July 22, 2019, 02:37:51 pm
Bryniau Rd, in Llandudno, CLOSED ..........  Road has collapsed, outside North Wales Golf Club,  diversions in place, Builder St. jammed, had fun getting through.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 22, 2019, 05:56:54 pm
Crash on A55 shuts Conwy Tunnel


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-shuts-a55-conwy-16628430 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-shuts-a55-conwy-16628430)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 24, 2019, 05:42:22 pm
We drove to Anglesey yesterday and there was a long queue of traffic waiting to go over the Britannia Bridge, the weather was outstanding so it was not unexpected to see the queue so long.
Coming home on the A55  from Valley there was a long section of the eastbound carriageway closed and the traffic was diverted to one lane on the westbound side.
The Welsh Office did say that no repair work would be carried out on the A55 during daylight hours and they had kept their word as there was no worker to be seen on the closed section of the A55
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2019, 06:09:49 pm
Probably too hot to work yesterday.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 28, 2019, 11:32:28 am
From August 1st there will be two weeks of temporary changes in and around Llanrwst.

* Llanrwst will become one way only; vehicles going from Llandudno end will have to turn left after the Meadowsweet hotel and follow the back roads until they emerge after the town.
* Most roads in Llanrwst will become no parking zones for the same period.
* The bridge across the river will become one-way, leading away from the town.
* Crossing the river from Trefriw to reach Llanrwst will involve a 17 mile detour via Betws or North via Tal y Cafn.

Should be lots of fun...
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 02, 2019, 02:31:01 pm
Today I planned to take Mrs H to Llangollen to see the Horseshoe falls and the Aqueduct, so we set off on the A55 to St Asaph and then to drive up the Vale of Clwyd and down the Horseshoe Pass.   
We had just gone past the Threeway's Roundabout in Abergele when the traffic came to an abrupt halt and there was no movement in either eastbound lanes and there are no slip roads then until you reach Bodelwyddan.  So we were stuck there for about half an hour and then the traffic started moving.
The problem was just past the Petrol Station where the Police and Fire Service were attending to the burnt out wreckage of a car.   I hope that no one was hurt by that incident but that was enough for us so we turned back and headed for home and ended up having a nice lunch in Marmalade's Cafe in Rhos on Sea.
We have decided not to visit Llangollen until September when the roads will be a lot quieter
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 02, 2019, 03:25:52 pm
Here is an article about the car that was on fire on the A55

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-eastbound-closed-bodelwyddan-16688049 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-eastbound-closed-bodelwyddan-16688049)


The westbound lane of the A55 in Abergele doesn't seem any better


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-three-vehicle-crash-shuts-16688786 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-three-vehicle-crash-shuts-16688786)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 02, 2019, 04:47:14 pm
OH NO, THERE'S MORE!       IT HASN'T BEEN A GOOD DAY ON THE A55 TODAY

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-four-vehicle-a55-crash-16690516 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-four-vehicle-a55-crash-16690516)


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2019, 12:48:32 pm
Tickets being issued as motorists fail to heed one-way signs in Llanrwst on Eisteddfod route.  ref Pioneer
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 10, 2019, 02:19:22 pm
More hold ups on the A55


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-closed-both-directions-16733534 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-closed-both-directions-16733534)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 18, 2019, 12:32:45 am
I was driving to Llandudno on Saturday evening at about 6.45 pm and outside Hickory's in Rhos On Sea there had been a car crash. It would appear that a car was coming out of Church Road and was hit by another car with L plates that was travelling towards Llandudno
It didn't appear that anyone was hurt as a result of the accident thankfully and when we drove past a short while later the Police car was on the scene taking statements,
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 21, 2019, 10:20:29 am
A55 closed by Aber as car overturned


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-westbound-closed-after-16789069 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-westbound-closed-after-16789069)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 21, 2019, 11:39:37 am
Yes. Our daughter had a 10.30am appointment in Ysbyty Gwynedd and I saw the news coming through at 8.50am.

Mrs R was driving so they went down the A470 and up the A5.

She messaged me at 10.25am to say they were there.  &well&

I hope the child and other two passenger all make a fully recovery.

It is at times like this that it would be useful to run a water taxi from Llandudno Pier to Bangor Pier. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 21, 2019, 11:50:55 am
It was a good job that you saw the news Bri or Mrs R could have been stuck in all that traffic.     I hope too that the people involved in the accident make a full recovery
There have been a number of road accidents in North Wales recently but I hope that the forthcoming Bank Holiday traffic will be accident free

It seems that you are not even safe off the roads after what happened in the campsite recently.     


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49411705 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49411705)


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 21, 2019, 11:57:23 am
Yes, Hugo.

However, I wonder how quick someone was to put that detour information on those electronic signs east of the Conwy tunnel?

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 21, 2019, 12:05:47 pm
That's a good idea Bri.      When I was driving to work in Bangor some years ago I was stopped at the Llanfairfechan roundabout by the Police and they were redirecting traffic back to the Junction
The road was blocked due to flooding west of Aber so I just returned home and had a day off work but if I had seen a sign like you have mentioned I could have gone to Bangor via Capel Curig
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on August 21, 2019, 12:19:00 pm
My daughter has just phoned, Hugo.

They are now on their way back from YG but stuck in a queue on the A55 because of an accident on the other side of the road but in the same vicinity as the earlier accident.


Ambulance Service Statement

We were called on Wednesday 21 August at approximately 11.18am to reports of the A55 near Abergwyngregyn.
“We responded with two emergency ambulances. The incident is currently ongoing.”
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 21, 2019, 02:39:17 pm
And another one.........

The eastbound carriageway of the A55 has been shut at Llangefni in Anglesey after the trailer - which was carrying a minibus - came loose from the vehicle carrying it and crashed into the central barrier.  ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 21, 2019, 05:29:57 pm
My daughter has just phoned, Hugo.

They are now on their way back from YG but stuck in a queue on the A55 because of an accident on the other side of the road but in the same vicinity as the earlier accident.
Ambulance Service Statement

We were called on Wednesday 21 August at approximately 11.18am to reports of the A55 near Abergwyngregyn.
“We responded with two emergency ambulances. The incident is currently ongoing.”

That's hard luck Bri but I hope that the journey was worth it and that your daughter is ok
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 21, 2019, 05:36:22 pm
There was an update on today's hearing at Llandudno Magistrates Court 
Carys Parry, defending Waterhouse, said: "He takes full responsibility for the devastating events of the early hours of Monday morning on this campsite.

"He's truly and deeply remorseful for his actions."         &shake&         That's a stock phrase that all the defence solicitors seem to repeat in traditional Parrot fashion nowadays

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49420251 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49420251)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 21, 2019, 10:41:04 pm
My daughter has just phoned, Hugo.

They are now on their way back from YG but stuck in a queue on the A55 because of an accident on the other side of the road but in the same vicinity as the earlier accident.


Ambulance Service Statement

We were called on Wednesday 21 August at approximately 11.18am to reports of the A55 near Abergwyngregyn.
“We responded with two emergency ambulances. The incident is currently ongoing.”

There were 4 people taken to Bangor Hospital as a result of the collision on the A55 by Aber.   It was certainly a bad day on that road today 

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-multi-vehicle-crash-a55-16790688 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-multi-vehicle-crash-a55-16790688)






Title: Re: Roads in the area...............A470 CLOSED near Dolgarrog accident
Post by: SteveH on August 23, 2019, 03:16:51 pm
UPDATED15:06, 23 AUG 2019     DP

A major road has been closed following a crash.

Motorists are being urged to avoid the A470 near Dolgarrog in Conwy following a collision.

Long delays are expected in the area.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2019, 10:36:12 am
There was an update on today's hearing at Llandudno Magistrates Court 
Carys Parry, defending Waterhouse, said: "He takes full responsibility for the devastating events of the early hours of Monday morning on this campsite.
"He's truly and deeply remorseful for his actions."                That's a stock phrase that all the defence solicitors seem to repeat in traditional Parrot fashion nowadays
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49420251 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49420251)

Sad news,   
"A mum who was left fighting for life after a driver crashed through her tent at a campsite has died.
Anna Roselyn Evans was critically injured during the incident in the early hours of Monday August 19 at Rhyd y Galen campsite near Bethel in Gwynedd."
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-hit-car-drove-over-16826127 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-hit-car-drove-over-16826127)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 28, 2019, 11:30:20 am
Wonder if the driver will now face causing death by dangerous driving? Very sad.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 02, 2019, 02:52:10 pm
Something to look forward to        &shake&

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everything-you-need-know-major-16851761 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/everything-you-need-know-major-16851761)
Title: Re: Roads in the area............... A470 Police Incident
Post by: SteveH on September 06, 2019, 04:26:51 pm
Daily Post news.......... Lots of bits, but nothing definite

 A470 shut in both directions due to serious police incident
The road between Llanrwst and Tal Y Cafn has been closed
A forensic worker at the scene of a police incident on the A470 near Maenan, north of Llanrwst.
A police helicopter flying near the scene of an incident on the A470 near Maenan, north of Llanrwst
awaiting further information
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on September 06, 2019, 05:01:50 pm
Been rather busy down there (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49607972).

A 24-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of wounding following an incident which closed part of a major road in Conwy county on Friday.

Two people were taken to hospital, one via air ambulance, after a fight which shut the A470 at Maenan, near Llanrwst.

A weapon has been recovered from the scene and North Wales Police are not looking for anyone else.

Police were called to the scene at about 12:05 BST and the road reopened shortly after 15:00.

David Hughes, manager of the nearby Maenan Abbey Hotel, said a woman used the hotel's phone to report that a man covered in blood tried to grab her car keys."
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 06, 2019, 07:05:00 pm
A strange by unpleasant affair it seems.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on September 06, 2019, 07:09:04 pm
I'm sure Steve will unearth the grisly details soon. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 06, 2019, 07:46:38 pm
I'm sure Steve will unearth the grisly details soon.

The local news is the same as the BBC is reporting, apart from "The local schools were put on lock-down while police dealt with the incident."   

"Grisly" details tomorrow if any.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2019, 11:34:14 am
Lots of delays during rush hour this morning, even though plenty of warning ?  looking at the web cams, not to bad at the moment, but slow out of CB. J22

MOTORISTS have experienced "gridlock" due to lane closures on the A55 this morning.
A contraflow system has been in operation since late yesterday evening - Sunday, September 8 - due to essential repair work to the A55 Kneeshaw Lupton Underbridge Eastbound carriageway.

The repairs, which require single lane closures between Junction 23 at Llandullas and the Rainbow Bridge on both sides, will be underway 24 hours a day for up to five weeks.

A motorist speaking to The Journal said: "I hit the traffic before Abergele roundabout heading West, it was very slow moving once I got to the single lane and it took me more than an hour to pass through.
"It was very slow and frustrating travelling west, but the other side is even worse."  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17889898.delays-drivers-a55-near-abergele-llanddulas-due-roadworks/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17889898.delays-drivers-a55-near-abergele-llanddulas-due-roadworks/)

Four-mile A55 queues as five weeks of roadworks start at Llanddulas
Work has begun today to improve the road which has led to significant delays.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-long-a55-delays-llanddulas-16885899 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-long-a55-delays-llanddulas-16885899)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 09, 2019, 11:51:26 am
Mrs H was driving up King's Drive a short while ago and there was a crash between two cars.   Police were on the scene but although there was extensive damage to one car there were no ambulances in attendance  so hopefully no one was seriously injured as a result of the crash
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on September 09, 2019, 11:56:19 am
The A55 ought to have been six lanes, not four, when it was first created.  Just another example (if one were needed) of the Southerly bias of the UK government and a total lack of forward thinking (or, indeed, thinking) on the part of planners. No better is the A470. 

It's hard to believe this is the main road linking North and South Wales. Whereas the Southern end has motorway-standard exits and entrances, our end has narrow sections so tight that large lorries have to hold back and a ludicrous dog-leg at the Erw Glas campsite that's been designated for urgent improvement since 2008!

We simply can't win; it's either the pro-South bias at Westminster and the WA, or the sheer incompetence and empire-building of CCBC.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2019, 05:50:13 pm
Ongoing incident on Conwy or Colwyn rd Llandudno  ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Emergency services are currently dealing with a crash in Llandudno.

Firefighters, paramedics and police are on the scene of a two-vehicle collision on Conwy Road in the town.
One of the vehicles has flipped onto its side as a result of the collision.

Long delays are building as a result of the crash.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-emergency-services-deal-llandudno-16890493 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-emergency-services-deal-llandudno-16890493)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2019, 08:04:38 pm
Further on the crash............

"Witnesses said the 4x4 was stationary on the road when the car crashed into it, but this has not been confirmed.
One person was taken to hospital following a two-vehicle crash in Llandudno
Images from the scene showed the 4x4 having crashed onto its side, while a second vehicle had damage to its front."

The mention of " hitting a stationary vehicle a 4X4", reminded me, that spot is used regularly  by horse owners who use the adjacent field.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 10, 2019, 06:22:15 pm
A child has been struck by a car in Llandudno about 4pm

Police and paramedics have been called to the collision on Mostyn Broadway this afternoon.

The incident has happened outside the Swimming Centre.       more to follow ?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 11, 2019, 03:43:08 pm
I'm sure Steve will unearth the grisly details soon.
The local news is the same as the BBC is reporting, apart from "The local schools were put on lock-down while police dealt with the incident."   
"Grisly" details tomorrow if any.

Virtually the story  as we know from the 6th Sep. , apart from .... "A man who was arrested after a bloody altercation on the A470 in Conwy has since been detained under the mental health act."    ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 13, 2019, 04:41:12 pm
Llanddulas roadworks causing huge queues as warned, and looking at the web cam just now   :(      :(....... https://trafficcameras.uk/a55/ (https://trafficcameras.uk/a55/)


DP article   LIVE: A55 traffic updates as Llanddulas roadworks causes huge queues
Motorists are experiencing miles of queues as a result of the works.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-traffic-updates-llanddulas-delays-16916119 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-traffic-updates-llanddulas-delays-16916119)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 13, 2019, 06:40:10 pm
On Wednesday, I was travelling from Colwyn Bay to Prestatyn and drove along the old road as far as Llanddulas.   There was hardly any traffic on that road at 9.30 am but I could see the traffic on the eastbound lane of the A55 barely moving.
I then joined the A55 at Llanddulas and headed off to Prestatyn but both the westbound lanes of the A55  were stopped nose to tail all the way back to Pensarn
Coming home at about 4.00 pm I kept to the old road even though the westbound lane seemed to have the traffic flowing freely
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 16, 2019, 09:33:41 am
The notorious Black Cat Roundabout just off the A55 could see traffic lights and lane markings introduced to cut the number of accidents if proposals get the go-ahead.

The work could start next spring at the Glan Conwy interchange off Junction 19 of the expressway.
Plans under consideration include introducing traffic signal controls as well as "spiral" lane markings to guide drivers around the roundabout and to the exits.

There will also be provision for routes to cycle or walk across the interchange from the Glan Conwy direction to join with existing link at Narrow Lane in Llandudno Junction.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-road-improvements-planned-notorious-16916828 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-road-improvements-planned-notorious-16916828)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 19, 2019, 11:47:37 am
Well cars are getting smaller...............
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 20, 2019, 01:54:54 pm
A55 westbound closed in Conwy following crash
Massive delays are building for motorists in the area.

A crash has shut the westbound carriageway of the A55.

The road has been closed at St George following the collision, Traffic Wales have said.
Traffic is being diverted off the road at Junction 24a for St George.

Motorists are being urged to avoid the area.
Huge delays were already building up on the stretch due to roadworks at Llanddulas, which were causing queues to stretch back to the St George area.  ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 20, 2019, 02:51:05 pm
Two people taken to hospital
A Welsh Ambulance Service spokesman said two people were taken to hospital.

“We were called on Friday 20 September at approximately 12:52 pm to reports of a road traffic accident involving three vehicles near St George, Abergele.

“We responded with two emergency ambulances.
“Two patients were transported to Glan Clwyd Hospital, Bodelwyddan.”

14:16
Delays are back to normal now on the road, which means they are still significant.

Queues for the roadworks are stretching from Colwyn Bay to St George.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2019, 04:35:04 pm
My trip to Bodelwyddan today was a sort of good news, bad news sort of trip, left home one hour early,    $good$  the road works did not cause to much of a delay,    $good$  arrived at the hospital over an hour early, to be told a few people had not turned up, would I just go straight in$good$  and all was well $good$  I was back home before my original appointment time enjoying a nice cuppa   $good$  and the bad news, as I joined the queue at Rhos, I pulled up behind a truck, loaded with a large lidded skip, which we then followed until the end of the road works, despite trying to move around it, my best guess as to what was in the skip.......... the contents of an abattoirs month old waste pile, you could cut the pong with a knife :o                            but I would follow it again, if I did not have to sit around at the hospital   $good$
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 30, 2019, 06:36:05 pm
There is some talk of traffic lights being installed at the Black Cat roundabout and I was thinking of that when I came on to that roundabout recently.     I can only describe it as like being in the wacky races, it was just mad and it's a wonder that there aren't more accidents at that spot.
I then came to the smaller roundabout by the garage and witnessed a very near miss when two cars, one being in the wrong lane and not indicating nearly collided as they were both headed  in the direction of Llanrwst
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 30, 2019, 07:16:08 pm
There was a display in the Business Centre in Llandudno Junction a couple of weeks ago showing details of possible new road layouts for the big roundabout at A55 junction 19 ... some had three lanes, some had traffic lights and there was a version which had roads going through the middle of the roundabout.  To me, a couple seemed reasonably good.

If they go ahead with traffic lights then getting the sequence will be curcial.  Three lanes, with directions painted on them, seemed good as well.

As someone who regularly comes from Llandudno Junction to join the roundabout I am always wary of a car coming round from the south in the left-hand lane and indicating left - looking as if it will turn towards Junction but instead drive across the front of me and goes north on the A470 to Llandudno - the junctions are too close together and the drivers not indicating correctly.

At the end of the day what it needs are drivers who know how to indicate and be in the correct lane.  The scenario you describe about cars heading towards Llanrwst happens often - the car in the left hand lane looks to be going to Mochdre yet cuts across the car that is correctly in the right-hand lane heading towards Llanrwst.  Drive as if the others around you are idiots, as they often are!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on September 30, 2019, 08:39:23 pm
Quote
At the end of the day what it needs are drivers who know how to indicate and be in the correct lane.

That could be asking the impossible of many...   *cycle*
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on September 30, 2019, 09:25:25 pm
Here is the consultation document for those interested.

Responses by the 16 October.

https://gov.wales/sites/default/files/consultations/2019-09/consultation-document_1.pdf
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2019, 02:21:50 pm
I was driving up King's Drive in Colwyn Bay at about 11,20 am today and the traffic had stopped just after Oak Drive.   No vehicles were going up the hill or coming down the hill and it was like that for quite a while.
It turns out that there had been a crash by the Old Highway and I saw a red car on a low loader and by the state of the car it must have been an insurance write off
It was a bad smash but there were no ambulances  or fire engines on the scene so I hope that no one was seriously injured in the crash

What puzzled me was the fact that one or both cars demolished part of a stone wall and in doing so had to mount the pavement to go through the wall.   Similar things have happened in Craigside and by the traffic lights in Rhos but there is no proper explanation for these type of accidents happening under normal circumstances
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2019, 02:57:12 pm
This is what the wall looked like after the crash
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2019, 07:34:52 pm
More problems on the A55


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-shut-eastbound-conwy-17013009 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-shut-eastbound-conwy-17013009)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 07, 2019, 11:34:52 am
Major roadworks that have caused massive tailbacks are set to be completed early.                                ref DP

The repairs to the Kneeshaw Bridge around Llanddulas on the A55 were due to end at the end of this week.

But the Welsh government is now saying they will be completed on Wednesday, October 9.                                &shake&
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 09, 2019, 10:12:22 am
A55 roadworks that sparked massive delays have finished early
All lanes are back open after weeks of delays    ref DP

Just a reminder that the Glan Clwyd Hospital, Park and Ride service, is due to end 31 st Oct.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 10, 2019, 03:44:34 pm
I mentioned above about the Park and Ride at Glan Clwyd hospital..............

Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board (BCUHB) have been reviewing the scheme, but it is still unclear if it will be continued.

A spokesperson for the health board said: "Options for the future of the Park and Ride service at Ysbyty Glan Clwyd will be discussed at the meeting of the health board’s Finance and performance committee on October 24.”   ref Pioneer
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 13, 2019, 12:52:58 pm
Why the Evo Triangle speed cameras have not been switched on after 6 months


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/evo-triangle-speed-cameras-not-17067822 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/evo-triangle-speed-cameras-not-17067822)
Title: Re: Roads in the area ............. Hospital Park and Ride
Post by: SteveH on October 17, 2019, 04:05:23 pm
MOTORISTS driving into Llandudno face delays because of road resurfacing works between the Queen’s and Links roundabouts.
The work started last Monday and are scheduled to be completed by Friday October 25     ref Pioneer


A hospital's under threat park and ride service has won another six month reprieve.
The future of Ysbyty Glan Clwyd's free scheme at the nearby former Hotpoint site in Bodelwyddan has been hanging in the balance since the beginning of this year.

But for the second time, local pressure has prevailed, with the park and ride service being given yet another six month extension until April 2020
.   ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 17, 2019, 04:43:40 pm
On the occasions this year that I have used the Park'n'Ride I have counted less than 100 cars in the ex-Hotpoint car park (right underneath what was once the window next to my desk!!!)

I thought I'd read that the extension to the hospital car park would cater for 140 extra vehicles.

So, in theory, there should be 40 empty spaces at the hospital at most times.

Anyway, good to know the park'n'ride scheme is carrying on.

If I just miss the bus back I walk and get there before the next bus ... although appreciate not everyone can do that!
Title: Re: Roads in Wales
Post by: SteveH on October 18, 2019, 11:03:56 am
Dual nationality: Wales - same country but roads apart.

"But what about the real world physical connections that bind us - especially between the north and south?
For a small country, our sprawling, twisting road network makes it a very large place.

It can take longer to drive from Llandudno to Cardiff than it does to take your car across the Irish sea to Dublin.

Get stuck behind a timber lorry on the A470 - and you'll find it would have been quicker to drive to London instead.
But why? It's 190 miles - why should that journey take so long?"

Interesting article    Cont... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50086660 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50086660)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 18, 2019, 02:33:38 pm
Anyone spot the error in that report?

Quote ... "But it is a similar story - a route running east to west - from Wales to England."

Surely from Wales to England is west to east, and not east to west as stated ... !!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 18, 2019, 02:48:11 pm
 _))* _))* _))*

True...
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 22, 2019, 01:10:59 pm
There was an update on today's hearing at Llandudno Magistrates Court 
Carys Parry, defending Waterhouse, said: "He takes full responsibility for the devastating events of the early hours of Monday morning on this campsite.
"He's truly and deeply remorseful for his actions."                That's a stock phrase that all the defence solicitors seem to repeat in traditional Parrot fashion nowadays
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49420251 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49420251)

Sad news,   
"A mum who was left fighting for life after a driver crashed through her tent at a campsite has died.
Anna Roselyn Evans was critically injured during the incident in the early hours of Monday August 19 at Rhyd y Galen campsite near Bethel in Gwynedd."
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-hit-car-drove-over-16826127 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-hit-car-drove-over-16826127)

Drink driver who killed mum by crashing into her tent sobs as he is jailed for 8 years and banned from driving for 12 years
Jake Waterhouse injured three others as he drove drunkenly around Rhyd y Galen Caravan Park.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drink-driver-who-killed-mum-17125366 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drink-driver-who-killed-mum-17125366)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 22, 2019, 01:54:46 pm
In that instance I thought the sentence too light.  Through simply drinking too much he's deprived children of their mother, a husband of his wife and parents of their daughter.  I believe causing death in that manner deserves a true whole life sentence.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 22, 2019, 02:28:03 pm
In that instance I thought the sentence too light.  Through simply drinking too much he's deprived children of their mother, a husband of his wife and parents of their daughter.  I believe causing death in that manner deserves a true whole life sentence.
Especially with the added impact on the family of have to make the further decision, regarding turning of the life support system.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 22, 2019, 03:35:49 pm
In that instance I thought the sentence too light.  Through simply drinking too much he's deprived children of their mother, a husband of his wife and parents of their daughter.  I believe causing death in that manner deserves a true whole life sentence.

The sentence was far too light for the crime committed and the chances are that he won't serve the full term whereas it's a life sentence for the woman's family.
It was horrific and then the driver runs away from the scene after causing the carnage
Would this Jake Waterhouse be the same person who was wanted by the Greater Manchester Police in 2016 i wonder?

https://twitter.com/gmpolice/status/796661317293735936?lang=en
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 23, 2019, 02:36:55 pm
MOTORISTS face weeks of disruption as works on a new supermarket development get underway.

A sign is in place on the roundabout in Llandudno Junction - that leads off to Ffordd 6G Road, Conway Road, New Road and Ferndale Road - stating that roadworks will be in place from October 21 until May 2020.

The works - which include temporary traffic lights and take in New Road and 90m length from the bus shelters off the roundabout - are in relation to the new Lidl, being constructed on the site of the former Arriva bus depot and North Wales Weekly News / Daily Post sites.
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17987513.motorists-face-weeks-roadworks-chaos-construction-begins-llandudno-junction-lidl/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17987513.motorists-face-weeks-roadworks-chaos-construction-begins-llandudno-junction-lidl/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2019, 03:59:59 pm
I was having a drink near there recently and the area stank,  there has been a problem near there in the past with the sewage smell and it certainly hasn't been sorted out yet
That's not a very good thing to have near a food outlet store so there may be some further delays in the future
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 30, 2019, 10:26:38 pm
30 mile rolling roadblocks on A55

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-30-mile-rolling-roadblocks-17174467 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-30-mile-rolling-roadblocks-17174467)


More trouble on the A55 tonight

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-a483-rossett-ruabon-17174231 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-a483-rossett-ruabon-17174231)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 31, 2019, 03:33:40 pm
Authorities' warning to 'avoid walking along the carriageway at all costs' after 35 incidents in a month in North Wales.

Startling CCTV footage shows a pedestrian venture out into the middle of the carriageway in the Pen-y-Clip tunnel near Conwy - where the speed limit is 70mph.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18006009.authorities-warning-avoid-walking-along-carriageway-costs-35-incidents-month-north-wales/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18006009.authorities-warning-avoid-walking-along-carriageway-costs-35-incidents-month-north-wales/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 09, 2019, 11:06:42 am
Police are warning of hazardous conditions of the A470 through the Bwlch Oerddrws pass due to snow.
Snow has also been reported on the Berwyn Mountains and Horseshoe Pass near Llangollen as well as in Llanefydd, Pen-Y-Pass, and Capel Curig

A470 at Dolwyddelan
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 09, 2019, 10:36:04 pm
It was a lovely sunny day yesterday when we drove up the Horseshoe Pass but what a change in just 24 hours

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/snow-covered-north-wales-captured-17229540 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gallery/snow-covered-north-wales-captured-17229540)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Meleri on November 11, 2019, 04:02:23 pm
Sychnant Pass Road is now closed from Today 11th November until 20th December due to SP Energy laying HV cables.
Title: Re: Roads in the area................ Road Safety
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2019, 12:36:47 pm
Mrs H asked me the difference in these two photos, I struggled, untill I saw the full Road Safety poster, there is a child in both photos.... this goes for adults as well as children, but we make our own choices, children don't.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 17, 2019, 02:07:12 pm
We were driving down the A470  from Llanrwst to Glan Conwy yesterday,  I was a passenger in the front seat when I noticed a car coming towards us flashing its headlights.
Tellytubby who was driving the car said it was because some nutter was overtaking a number of cars and had pulled in sharply behind him and had norrowly avoided hitting the rear of Tellytubby's car.
The moran who was driving this small white van then overtook us and another vehicle before overtaking a third on a blind bend and luckily for him there was no other car coming around the corner
Earlier on we had been talking about the benefits of a dash cam and he had been thinking of buying one but this incident may have convinced him to do so.    In the future I'm sure that cars will be sold with the dash cams already included as the standard of driving is not  going to get better
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on November 17, 2019, 06:02:43 pm
A similar incident on the same stretch of road led to me submitting dash cam footage to the Police who are prosecuting the driver in question. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 19, 2019, 12:24:35 pm
LLANDUDNO
Bryniau Road ( by North Wales Golf Club ) in Llandudno is causing delays, due to road resurfacing work.

CONWY
Gas emergency and pipeline service, Wales & West Utilities is working to upgrade gas pipes in the Castle Street area of Conwy.

The work, which is essential to keep the gas flowing to heat homes and power businesses in the area so that people are safe and warm for generations to come, will start on 25 November and will finish on 1 December 2019  cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18045578.upgrade-works-gas-pipelines-start-conwy/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18045578.upgrade-works-gas-pipelines-start-conwy/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 19, 2019, 01:34:06 pm
I drove to Llandudno earlier today and there had been a two car crash by the mini roundabout in Llandudno Road  Penrhyn Bay.      The two cars involved were quite badly damaged and the two vehicles were parked off the road.
No sign of any emergency vehicles so I hope that there was no serious injuries to anyone.
It can be a difficult roundabout if you don't take care approaching it
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 22, 2019, 03:55:00 pm
Fun and games on my visit to Glan clwyd this afternoon, running a bit late when we saw blue lights joining the A55, closely followed by a police car from behind, a short time later we got past the accident, just as Fire service pulled up behind us and the road was closed at 1.30 PM

Got to my appointment on time, usual wait, all good news....however when we were returning, looking down onto the A55 we noticed it was closed, in both directions, and we were diverted through Abergel without to much delay, although we thought it was strange that the road was closed in both directions, on our return we checked the news, and found out a truck had struck a bridge Westbound....

The Daily post story...
First crash
LIVE: A55 closed in both directions as emergency services deal with two 'serious' crashes
Two vehicles are involved in the crash.
"Emergency services are currently dealing with a crash on the A55.
One lane is closed on the eastbound carriageway of the A55 at Bodelwyddan following a two-vehicle crash.
Police said the "nearside lane" is closed as a result of the crash between the Three-ways Garage and the turnoff for Bodelwyddan.
Delays are building in the area.

"The ambulance service say that one person was taken to hospital after the second crash.
We were called on Friday 22 November at approximately 13:19 to reports of a road traffic accident involving two vehicles on the A55 near Bodelwyddan. We responded with one emergency ambulance. One patient was transported to Glan Clwyd Hospital, Bodelwyddan.”

Fire service update
The fire service said they were initially called to reports of a crash involving a lorry and car on the road.
There was then an incident where a lorry hit the bridge.
Two crews are currently on the scene assisting other emergency services with the incident.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-lane-closed-a55-bodelwyddan-17300834 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-lane-closed-a55-bodelwyddan-17300834)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on November 22, 2019, 04:24:41 pm
I drove to Llandudno earlier today and there had been a two car crash by the mini roundabout in Llandudno Road  Penrhyn Bay.      The two cars involved were quite badly damaged and the two vehicles were parked off the road.
No sign of any emergency vehicles so I hope that there was no serious injuries to anyone.
It can be a difficult roundabout if you don't take care approaching it

Like all roundabouts it should be easy but you get traffic flying through because they believe that they can go as fast as they want and don't have to indicate their intentions either. Driving standards nowadays appear to be going down the drain with aggressive, rude, inconsiderate and incompetent driving being the norm and yet we are led to believe it's harder than ever to pass your test. Maybe a lot of drivers have the memory span of a goldfish.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2019, 04:57:06 pm
I'm inclined to agree with you Dave and on that particular roundabout when I'm driving from Llandudno  I tend to stop and look towards Glanwydden because you have no view of the traffic coming from your right
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 23, 2019, 10:36:24 am
There were after effects from yesterdays A55 crash, apparantly after the roads were reopened, enthusistic drivers caused a four car pile up. resulting in further delays, and it continues this morning with a rolling roadblock on the eastbound carriageway while repair work was carried out to the eastbound carriageway after damage was caused by the crash.

On a more moooooooving note, a photo of a car driving through Colwyn Bay yesterday !

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 23, 2019, 02:46:42 pm
More A55 animal news this morning, road closed on and off for an hour, by sheep on the carriage way near Bangor.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 01, 2019, 12:45:21 pm
Reading a story in the DP, I noticed this number if you spot debris on the road.

North & Mid Wales
@TrafficWalesN
By the looks of things someone has given up on the exercising before Christmas. this exercise ball was retrieved by our traffic officers this morning by the side of the #A55 at Penmaenbach headland.

                            if you see any debris along our network give us a call on ☎️ 0300 123 12 13

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 05, 2019, 01:53:20 pm
 double decker bus has crashed into a ditch near Rhuddlan.

The Arriva Buses Wales vehicle crashed on Ffordd Abergele - known as the Abergele Straights - at around 11.30am today.
Images from the scene show the bus at a 45 degree angle off the road, resting in a hedge.
Nobody has been hurt and recovery is taking place, with a road closure currently being put into place.   DP

Arriva statement...."We are aware of an incident that occurred on Ffordd Abergele near Rhuddlan, where a bus was blown off the road due to severe cross wind.
“Recovery of the vehicle is currently underway, and an investigation is under way.”

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: rhuddlan on December 05, 2019, 02:16:23 pm
I'm assuming it was empty as that road doesn't normally have their buses on it!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 05, 2019, 02:38:17 pm
I'm assuming it was empty as that road doesn't normally have their buses on it!
From the DP
Full police statement
A police spokesperson said:

We were called at 11.30am after a bus went off the road and ended up in a bush.
“Traffic has been moving as the bus is completely off the road.
“Recovery arrived on the scene at 11.48am.

“No passengers were on board and it was just the driver at the time.

“At 11.53am, they put in a closure between Rhuddlan Roundabout and the St Asaph Avenue Roundabout.”

Ongoing DP live report   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-double-decker-bus-crashes-17368092 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-double-decker-bus-crashes-17368092)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 05, 2019, 02:44:59 pm
Rhuddlan gets quite windy at times,  it must have been a shock for the driver at the time and let's hope that he wasn't injured in the crash

At least Bob Francis Crane Hire wasn't that far away to recover the bus
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 05, 2019, 02:52:20 pm
Rhuddlan gets quite windy at times...............   &shake&
Title: Re: Roads
Post by: SteveH on December 12, 2019, 11:59:20 am
Police were called to an area of the A1 after reports that a HGV had been blown onto its side.
But when responding officers arrived, their own patrol car was struck by another falling lorry. The Motorway CCTV of the exact moment can be viewed.... https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/watch-moment-lorry-crushes-police-17399649 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/watch-moment-lorry-crushes-police-17399649)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 14, 2019, 05:14:13 pm
No undertaking - abandoned hearse found on A55
It was towed away this afternoon after being discovered on the road on Anglesey

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 21, 2019, 09:49:58 am
AN OVERNIGHT closure on the A55 will be in place tonight as emergency bridge repairs get underway.

North and Mid Traffic Wales have said that a full overnight closure of the Eastbound Carriage at Junction 19 (Llandudno Junction/Black Cat) will be in place on Saturday, December 21 from 7.30pm until 6am.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 22, 2019, 10:45:33 am
Drivers who merge into lane at the last minute are right - and this is why.

Most drivers will feel a bristle of annoyance when they see a motorist going right to the front of a queue of traffic to merge into another lane.
And many drivers refuse to let them in. But apparently, what the other vehicle is doing is correct.

According to the RAC, we should all be using merging in turn or 'zip-merging'.
The practice is a traffic flow measure which encourages cars in two lanes to take it in turns feeding into a single lane during a closure - rather than merging early and queuing.    cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drivers-who-merge-lane-last-17452044 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drivers-who-merge-lane-last-17452044)
Title: Re: Roads in the area..............Fallen tree A470
Post by: SteveH on January 11, 2020, 10:16:09 am
North & Mid Wales
@TrafficWalesN
Fallen tree on the #A470 between Dolgellau and Ganllwyd.
8:09 AM - Jan 11, 2020


Motorists warned to brace themselves for traffic chaos during weeks of Abergele roadworks
Delays are expected on the A547 at Market Street later this month

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorists-warned-brace-themselves-traffic-17543283 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorists-warned-brace-themselves-traffic-17543283)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 12, 2020, 11:01:09 am
I travelled down the A470 on Wednesday and saw the Police Camera van at Glan Conwy and later on in Llanrwst.    It could be argued that their resources could be better deployed elsewhere, especially since the drastic cuts that have been imposed on the Police by the Conservative government in the last 10 years.
Under a FOI Act I found out that the Police force cameras only record drivers breaking the speed limit but technology is available in the form of Vulcan cameras that can detect dangerous drivers too, such as those using their mobile phones and other distracting things while driving.   
If such cameras were installed then it may release the Police to do other jobs especially since Boris has promised to increase the numbers of Police Officers in the UK
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on January 12, 2020, 11:06:19 am
Maybe they'd like to use this Vulcan:

[smg id=4128]

 $walesflag$
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 18, 2020, 04:28:53 pm
MAINTENANCE work is set to be carried on the Penmaenbach headland.

Traffic Wales said the work will take place on the narrow stretch of the A55 for three nights from January 20 to 23.

The diversion, in place from 7pm to 7am, will direct motorists travelling through Penmaenbach Tunnel.

Motorists are being reminded that there is a 3.2-metre width restriction in force.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 21, 2020, 10:12:01 am
A new gas pipe scheme looks set to cause months of traffic disruption in a seaside village.                        ref DP
Wales & West Utilities started working on the £530,000 project today in Penrhyn Bay, Conwy.

The work which is being described as "essential", is to upgrade nearly four kilometres of gas pipes and is expected to be finished by August 7, unless there are any engineering difficulties.

Temporary traffic lights will be put up.
A one-way system will also be in place on Penrhyn Beach from April 27 to May 15 and a diversion route, which will be clearly signposted, will be via Glan-Y-Mor Road and Beach Drive.

The public information event will be held on Saturday between 9am – 3pm at Parish Office, St David’s Church, Penrhyn Bay.
(not sure but assuming will be this Saturday )


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 30, 2020, 06:50:15 pm
A CAR has dramatically burst in to flames in Conwy.             ref Pioneer

A spokesperson for North Wales Fire and Rescue said: "We were called at 3.45pm to the bypass in Conwy Morfa.

"We sent one crew from Llandudno."
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on January 31, 2020, 10:04:52 am
When I bought my first car I remember reading that 1 in 3 cars would catch fire at some point. Nowadays it's a rarity to see that. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 31, 2020, 10:23:09 am
I take it that you haven't driven a Vauxhall Zafira  yet Ian?             
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on January 31, 2020, 10:37:21 am
Er...no.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 03, 2020, 03:53:30 pm
A stretch of the A55 will be down to single lanes in both directions for the majority of February.

Lane two of the A55 between Junction 18, Llandudno Junction and Junction 23, Llanddudlas, will be closed from 8pm to 6am.

The work to repair lighting will begin tonight and will continue until February 21, 2020.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 05, 2020, 08:39:53 am
More idiots on the A5


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/terrifying-dash-cam-video-shows-17689094 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/terrifying-dash-cam-video-shows-17689094)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 05, 2020, 10:29:19 am
More idiots on the A5
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/terrifying-dash-cam-video-shows-17689094 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/terrifying-dash-cam-video-shows-17689094)

WOW  close call ...  That looked like a  foreign driver, used to that side of the road, extremely lucky escape.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on February 05, 2020, 11:51:01 am
At long last the road on the top of the Cayley Banking above the prom is to be re-surfaced.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 07, 2020, 03:46:35 pm
Fun and games visiting and exiting Mostyn Champneys today, the top entrance is closed due to serious road works, I believe a new traffic light system being installed, plus the build up for the Cambrian Rally on Venue Cymru car park, putting pressure on all surrounding junctions.

Unfortunately on the way home we passed, what appeared to be an accident, near the bridge on Bryniau Rd, we got through, with the help of a passerby who took on the traffic supervision, but I suspect delays.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 09, 2020, 10:45:18 am
A55   Britannia Bridge closed in both directions

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/storm-ciara-a55-britannia-bridge-17715581 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/storm-ciara-a55-britannia-bridge-17715581)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Meleri on February 09, 2020, 11:59:01 am
Signage blown off at Mostyn Champneys Retail Park so avoid the area if going out.

Morfa Drive outside Aberconwy School flooded, no surprise there!

Aberconwy Park, Morfa closed due to very bad damage.

A5 at Llyn Ogwen is closed due to a landslide.

There is a high tide due today & a Super Snow Moon tonight, doom & gloom!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 10, 2020, 01:21:48 pm
After the gale force winds and the floods, here comes the snow

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-snow-blankets-parts-north-17721746 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-snow-blankets-parts-north-17721746)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 20, 2020, 09:01:08 am
At times it's like driving on the wacky races, now this confirms what a lot of people have been saying for ages

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/most-dangerous-junction-north-wales-17779781 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/most-dangerous-junction-north-wales-17779781)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on February 20, 2020, 10:35:18 am
It should have been a double flyover, with the A470 going above the A55, but that would have cost too much. Human lives are not as expensive.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on February 20, 2020, 06:26:23 pm
The first picture is NOT the Black Cat roundabout, it is the junction of the A470 from Llandudno to the bigger A55 roundabout - where there have been numerous rear-end shunts as drivers are too busy looking to the right instead of the car in front, the car in front not moving when it could be expected to.  Not helped by cars in the wrong lane or indicating incorrectly.

Same with the Black Cat roundabout as in a lower picture, where the Black Cat filling station is.

There were various plans displayed a while ago to alter the layout of the roads - not sure when they said that the discussions would be finalised and comments reviewed - and the choice made.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on February 20, 2020, 07:18:26 pm
The first picture is NOT the Black Cat roundabout, it is the junction of the A470 from Llandudno to the bigger A55 roundabout - where there have been numerous rear-end shunts as drivers are too busy looking to the right instead of the car in front, the car in front not moving when it could be expected to.  Not helped by cars in the wrong lane or indicating incorrectly.

It's a regular spot for minor shunts. It's the speed at which cars are heading towards the A55 eastwards slip road having come from down the valley or the junction. The car in front of you on the A470 starts to move, you look right and move forwards but the car in front has decided to stop as they decided they wouldn't make it. No excuse for it...it happened to me. A flyover wouldn't solve the problem ,maybe a solution is traffic lights at the junctions of the three joining roads but imagine the tail backs, it would be horrendous.
The best option is to pay more attention and not be in such a hurry.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 26, 2020, 09:20:05 am
Another crash on the A55,  this time near Llanddulas

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-llanddulas-abergele-17815274 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-llanddulas-abergele-17815274)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 28, 2020, 10:50:52 am
ROADWORKS in a part of Llandudno are set to continue until the end of March.

Conwy County Borough Council say work carried out by contractors Alun Griffiths ltd, between Mostyn Broadway and Charlotte Road, is expected to come to an end on Friday, March 27 (weather permitting).

The Council says it has prioritised Mostyn Broadway to Charlotte Road as part of an “ongoing investment” to improve traffic network within Llandudno.  cont.  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18268648.llandudno-work-mostyn-broadway-charlotte-road-set-continue-end-march/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18268648.llandudno-work-mostyn-broadway-charlotte-road-set-continue-end-march/)

Also pot hole inspection......
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on February 28, 2020, 11:02:30 am
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Title: Re: Roads in the area...........Marine Drive repairs
Post by: SteveH on March 10, 2020, 04:53:02 pm
Part of a road will be closed until Easter as work gets underway to repair damage caused by a landslip.

Storms caused rock falls on the West Shore end of Marine Drive in Llandudno last month rendering the area unsafe.

Work has now started to repair the popular scenic route and nearby footpath.

Access for residents of Marine Drive and customers of the Rest & Be Thankful Café and the lighthouse is via a two way system with traffic lights from the pier end, but there is no through route around the Great Orme.

Conwy county councillor, Greg Robbins, cabinet member for environment and transportation said: “We’ve prioritised these repairs to get Marine Drive fully open by Easter.
“We understand it’s inconvenient for residents to have the road closed, but it is absolutely necessary to keep the public safe.”   ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 12, 2020, 04:50:11 pm
You wouldn't expect this if you were driving through a tunnel on the A55

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shocking-video-shows-moment-a55-17912233 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shocking-video-shows-moment-a55-17912233)


Police attending the scene said that the vehicle could not be traced!       &shake&         Surely they followed it up on the many cameras that are on the A55
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on March 12, 2020, 06:53:02 pm
The A470 between Glan Conwy and the garden centre before the bottom of Bodnant Hill is being resurfaced and the delays are quite long . Will take two weeks to complete so avoid if possible!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 25, 2020, 02:28:47 pm
Police to stop caravans and mobile homes on the A55

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/coronavirus-north-wales-police-stop-17974166 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/coronavirus-north-wales-police-stop-17974166)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 26, 2020, 06:14:59 pm
Road closed due to tractor overturning and shedding it's load of spuds               

 Police warn people to be wary of anyone selling cheap mashed Potatoes     :roll:


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-ruabon-a539-traffic-crash-17985847 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-ruabon-a539-traffic-crash-17985847)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on March 26, 2020, 06:36:17 pm
If it had been in a collision with a tanker carrying vegetable oil, and a fire started, they could have had roasties and chips.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 30, 2020, 01:49:43 pm
Quiet     30/3/20 Time  approx 13. 40
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 30, 2020, 03:25:00 pm
Police keeping an eye on the Anglesey Bridges


https://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/news/18344264.coronavirus-police-keeping-close-eye-anglesey-bridges/ (https://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/news/18344264.coronavirus-police-keeping-close-eye-anglesey-bridges/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on March 30, 2020, 06:30:23 pm
Would be great to go out on a deserted A55 and see if my car can go as fast as the manufacturer claims it will ... 169 mph !!!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 04, 2020, 10:44:33 am
The A55 at rush hour as you've probably never seen it before
As Easter approaches the roads would normally be heaving but the non-essential travel ban has changed that

Motorists across North Wales are used to sitting in long lines of traffic for what can sometimes feel like hours during rush hour.

And with today being the day that most schools were due to break up for the Easter holidays you'd have expected the A55 to be chock-a-block with cars and caravans.

However, major routes around the region including the A55 and A494 are eerily quiet tonight as the UK remains in lockdown amid the coronavirus outbreak.

The normally jammed A55 had few vehicles travelling on it this afternoon and the long line of cars we're used to seeing build up heading west into North Wales was no where in sight.      more  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-rush-hour-youve-probably-18040860 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-rush-hour-youve-probably-18040860)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on April 04, 2020, 11:13:29 am
Still deserted as this live feed shows (https://traffic.wales/cctv-cameras/a55)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 04, 2020, 11:28:18 am
Still deserted as this live feed shows (https://traffic.wales/cctv-cameras/a55)

Counted approx 50 vehicles between Deeside and Holyhead  on the traffic Wales site     :o
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 04, 2020, 04:51:15 pm
Armed police, helicopter and dog involved in manhunt following A55 chase

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-manhunt-launched-following-police-18042166 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-manhunt-launched-following-police-18042166)]https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-manhunt-launched-following-police-18042166[/url]
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 20, 2020, 10:10:56 am
If you have to travel for work or an emergency, these are all the planned works scheduled to take place so you can minimise disruption to your journey.

All the road closures and work taking place in Conwy county in the coming weeks
Conwy Council has issued an update on the latest planned work

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/road-closures-work-taking-place-18114327 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/road-closures-work-taking-place-18114327)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 21, 2020, 11:03:25 am
Web cams, showing roads a bit more active this morning........   A55 - J18 Llandudno Junction (West)    https://trafficcameras.uk/a55/
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 02, 2020, 10:59:10 am
M56 drivers between Wales and Manchester Airport face 12 months of roadworks as huge project begins
Highways England has said speed restrictions and lane closures will be in place.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/m56-drivers-between-wales-manchester-18185439 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/m56-drivers-between-wales-manchester-18185439)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 20, 2020, 02:39:58 pm
BMW driver reached 'eye-watering' speeds of 160mph before being stopped by police



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bmw-driver-reached-eye-watering-18280331 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bmw-driver-reached-eye-watering-18280331)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 08, 2020, 06:27:59 pm
Car overturns on the A55

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-overturns-on-the-a55-18383999 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-overturns-on-the-a55-18383999)
Title: Re: Roads in the area........... A470 in Glan Conwy.
Post by: SteveH on June 11, 2020, 03:29:20 pm
WORK is to start on a new zebra crossing and shared-use path for pedestrians and cyclists on the A470 in Glan Conwy.  ref Pioneer

The work, which involves the pavement being widened to make a shared-use path from the railway station road to Pendraw’r Llan, will begin on Monday, June 15 and will take more than four weeks.

A spokesperson from Conwy County Borough Council said: "The Welsh Government, working with the North and Mid-Wales Trunk Road Agent and Conwy County Borough Council, has prioritised building a new zebra crossing on the A470 in Glan Conwy.

"These improvements will provide a safer, easier and more accessible route for pedestrians and cyclists from Glan Conwy village to the northbound bus stop and leisure facilities at Cae Ffwt."

Depending on the weather, work is expected to be completed by Friday, July 17.

There will be temporary traffic lights during off-peak hours.
Parking may also be restricted at times.
The northbound bus stop will be closed. Passengers are advised to use the temporary bus stop near Benarth Court.
 .
Title: Re: Roads in the area..............A55 at Glan Conwy
Post by: SteveH on June 17, 2020, 09:34:06 am
A55 at Glan Conwy: Improvement work to begin
Work to make a busy intersection of the A55 safer for pedestrians, cyclists and drivers will begin on Wednesday.

The Welsh Government said improvement work to junction 19 at Glan Conwy would run until the end of September, depending on weather conditions.
Work has been brought forward because the coronavirus pandemic means traffic levels are almost half their normal level.

The project includes widening the junction, making safer crossings for pedestrians and cyclists, the installation of traffic lights and an upgrade from street lighting to an energy-efficient LED alternative.

The routes for cyclists and pedestrians will also link to the current path on the A470 to encourage walking and cycling in the area.

Transport and North Wales Minister Ken Skates said: "This is the first of our pinch-point schemes to go ahead and it will deliver a real difference to all forms of transport once completed."   ref BBC
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 23, 2020, 11:22:23 am
PART of the A55 dual carriageway has been given an LED lighting upgrade during the coronavirus lockdown.   ref Pioneer

The lights have been placed between Junction 18 (Conwy/Llandudno Junction) and 23 (Llanddulas).

According to Traffic Wales North and Mid, the new lighting is 'more energy-efficient, cost-effective and easier to maintain'.

A spokesperson said: "This should also minimise disruption in the long term by reducing the likelihood of closures to deal with faults."
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 30, 2020, 10:14:50 am
SEVERAL drink and drug drive arrests were made by North Wales Police officers at the weekend.

Arrests were made in Llanfairpwll, Towyn, Trefor near Caernarfon, Conwy, Abergwyngregyn, Llanddulas, Llandudno, Bangor, Abergele, Maentwrog, Bodelwyddan and Bontnewydd.

A North Wales Police spokesperson said: "Some of these now have to wait for the results of further tests and others have been charged and will have to explain their actions to the Court.

"Needless to say this behaviour is extremely worrying and disappointing.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 06, 2020, 05:16:45 pm
The flooding happened a few days ago on the road to Abergynolwen and the hotel was lucky to escape flooding in the main building



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/historic-lakeside-hotel-hit-flooding-18541697 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/historic-lakeside-hotel-hit-flooding-18541697)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 09, 2020, 11:02:49 am
Driver stopped on the A55 giving his pal a lift to Court.       You couldn't make it up but just how many more drivers are like that?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-driver-gives-lift-pal-18563835 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-driver-gives-lift-pal-18563835)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 10, 2020, 10:35:02 am
An eight mile section of the A55 will be closed for 10 nights for roadworks.

The entire westbound carriageway between Caerwys (J31) and St Asaph (J27) will be shut for essential maintenance work.
The work will take place between the hours of 7pm and 6am each day, commencing on Monday, July 20.

A diversion route is in place and will follow the A5151 towards Prestatyn and then through Dyserth.

At the roundabout near Rhuddlan Golf Club, it shall follow the A547 towards Abergele, before joining the A525 Rhuddlan by-pass towards St Asaph.
Traffic shall then re-join the westbound A55 at the J27 westbound onslip.
Maintenance is scheduled to be completed by Saturday, August 1.  ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 18, 2020, 10:51:59 am
Major Welsh speed limit change that will affect every neighbourhood
If passed we could become the first nation in the world to adopt the measure

Plans to introduce 20mph speed limits in all residential areas of Wales have been backed by the Senedd.

This week an independent report recommended Wales becomes the first nation in the world to adopt the new measure by 2023 and received support in Cardiff this week.

It would see all roads in residential areas have a default 20mph speed limit, with communities and local authorities, deciding which should remain at 30mph.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-welsh-speed-limit-change-18613592 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-welsh-speed-limit-change-18613592)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 18, 2020, 12:57:46 pm
Just who comes up with these ideas ... yes, I agree you shouldn't drive quickly through populated areas, but you should also drive with care and according to the conditions at all times.  Will it save lives, I suggest perhaps not - what is needed is to educate pedestrians, including children, the green cross code or the modern equivalent.  How often do you see kids walking in the road, even when parents are not far away - I see it every time when the local school finishes at the end of the day.  One death or casualty is one too many but how many are purely due to speed, and not other factors such as bad driving not paying attention - drivers and pedestrians.

As for saving the planet, then I suspect all cars are more efficient at 30mph in a high gear (mine will do that in sixth gear and pull away comfortably afterwards) than they are at 20mph in a lower gear (mine would have to be in 4th).

Soon we will all be driving round in electric cars (which will be silent so you won't hear them coming) and to reduce the number of unemployed people (bear in mind that there will be more of them in a few months time) then the government (i.e. taxpayer) will pay them for walking in front of cars whilst carrying a red flag - this could be done in villages where the red flag carrier precedes a car (or perhaps a convoy when it's busy) through the village before then chapperoning one the other way - good exercise as well!  Don't let the Welsh Assembly know I suggested that, they might act on it!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Blongb on July 18, 2020, 01:19:09 pm
Certain prima facie limits are established by California law and include the 25 MPH speed limit in business and residential districts and the 25 MPH limit in school zones when children are present. I have driven there and didn't find it in any way onerous so I will reserve judgement on 20 MPH. Luckily I'm not in a rush to get anywhere these days.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 24, 2020, 10:12:08 am
They have no one but themselves to blame for this latest action.     The tow truck businesses could be thriving now


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-snowdonia-parking-rules-you-18652984 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-snowdonia-parking-rules-you-18652984)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 27, 2020, 09:52:30 am
It must have been a terrifying ordeal for the car driver yesterday when they lost two wheels off their car whilst driving on the A55  Expressway between Llandudno Junction and Colwyn Bay

It made me remember the time many years ago when I was a passenger in my friend David Rawling's car and we were travelling down Mostyn Street when a car tyre shot past us.  About 50 yards further on we found out whose car tyre it was when Dave's car came to a halt and tilted to one side


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-lane-closed-car-18665159 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-lane-closed-car-18665159)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 27, 2020, 10:19:27 am
Losing one is understandable, but losing two looks like carelessness.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 31, 2020, 03:33:50 pm
I thought that Penrhyn Road in Colwyn Bay was bad for parking with many motorists double parking while they pop in to the Banks or Building Societies but that was nothing compared to what I saw today in Llandudno
I wanted to go to Bernards in the short section of Queen's Road that leads to the Promenade but ended up parking in a nearby street.  Vehicles were double parked in the centre of the Queen's  Road, I say that loosely as there was no logic to the manner in which they were parked and it was hard to drive past them.
In addition large commercial vehicles were parked on a traffic island on a T junction with Mostyn Avenue it was unbelievable but where were the Traffic Wardens while this was going on?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on July 31, 2020, 07:27:22 pm
That's been the normal parking there for years Hugo how their haven't been loads of prangs along there.and did you notice the taxi rank at the end.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 01, 2020, 08:50:57 am
The situation in the area that you mean Hugo has been bad for years. How anyone dare leave a respectable car in the middle of the road, I hate to think. It is like Russian Roulette !
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2020, 09:25:13 am
I've parked my car in the centre of the road many times before but only when it was safe to do so and in line with the other cars that were already there.      Yesterday was bad with cars parking at an angle and looking like they were just abandoned and as for those commercial vehicles parked on a traffic island and on a busy T junction that was crazy
I wish that I had my camera in the car to take a photo of the fiasco
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2020, 10:03:58 am
Nemesis, on the issue of parking,  I bet that you are glad that you didn't go to Barmouth yesterday, I dread to think what you would say if you were stuck in that lot          ;D



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/families-plead-police-help-amid-18698720 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/families-plead-police-help-amid-18698720)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2020, 02:25:27 pm
Snowdon visitor who parked illegally is in line for a longer trek

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-visitor-who-parked-illegally-18699841 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-visitor-who-parked-illegally-18699841)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 01, 2020, 02:29:16 pm
Nemesis, on the issue of parking,  I bet that you are glad that you didn't go to Barmouth yesterday, I dread to think what you would say if you were stuck in that lot          ;D



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/families-plead-police-help-amid-18698720 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/families-plead-police-help-amid-18698720)

Not even attempting to go anywhere with all these people around. The situation there sounded dire, my OH would have been ranting ! Good job the family came down here last month, it now sounds as though they can't leave Kirklees. Where? no such place on a map !
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2020, 06:02:36 pm
Another one on a trailer          $good$

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-visitors-audi-towed-away-18701349 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-visitors-audi-towed-away-18701349)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 03, 2020, 08:14:55 pm
I hope it's not a similar incident to one that happened nearby recently

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-menai-bridge-shut-due-18710080 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-menai-bridge-shut-due-18710080)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 06, 2020, 01:32:23 pm
NORTH WALES TRAFFIC LIVE: Queues build on A55 as huge influx of tourists expected for heatwave weekend
Large volumes of traffic are reported heading into North Wales

Traffic - A470
Queueing traffic on A470 Conway Road Northbound at A55 North Wales Expressway J19 (Black Cat / Glan Conwy / Llandudno Junction). In the roadworks area. Travel time is 15 minutes.

Traffic Wales has warned of congestion on several parts of the expressway including in Flintshire and on the Britannia Bridge.

Photos show long queues building on the A494 in Deeside and A55 heading into North Wales.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-traffic-live-long-18726392 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-traffic-live-long-18726392)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 08, 2020, 02:51:31 pm
This morning I drove along the A55  and got off it at Abergele when I drove on the A547 to Kinmel Bay.      I've never seen anything like the queue waiting to get on to the Threeways roundabout.     The westbound lane stretched nose to tail from the roundabout to past the field with the solar panels.
The turn off at Gors Road going to Towyn was closed and a Police vehicle blocked the road but I don't know what caused the queue or why Gors Road was blocked off.
Coming home from Kinmel Bay I went through St George to avoid the queue at the Threeways roundabout and got on the A55 at Pensarn
and the A55 was extremely busy too so next time I visit the Garden Centre at Kinmel Bay it won't be at the weekend
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 08, 2020, 03:16:22 pm
Gors Road in Towyn was closed due to the fact that a car crashed into a ditch following a Police pursuit but it doesn't explain why there was that long queue on the A547

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-shut-road-towyn-18737804 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-shut-road-towyn-18737804)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 08, 2020, 03:21:48 pm
Major delays on N Wales roads

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/traffic-live-major-delays-across-18737972 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/traffic-live-major-delays-across-18737972)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 08, 2020, 03:37:52 pm
I was contemplating going to the Kinmel Garden Centre - luckily I changed my mind.

The road works at J19 Black Cat are a bit chaotic - the traffic lights on some junctions cause tail backs ... hope it will get sorted for the final version - does anyone know which option they went with? - there were (I think) six different layouts displayed to the public some time ago, but I have not seen any conclusion to the public opinion (although I am sure the decision had been made before the public "vote").
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 08, 2020, 06:33:04 pm
It was the water garden centre that we went to but they did not have the shrubs we were after but at least we had a delicious ice cream there     :D
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 09, 2020, 10:59:30 am
Residents near the A55 roundabout in St Asaph are not happy with the noise since the new bridge joints were installed



This is the right link (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/it-sounds-like-gun-going-18728905), Hugo.

Ian



Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 10, 2020, 10:38:53 am
Traffic signals will help manage congestion on the off slips, reducing the length of queues and the traffic speed to improve safety on the roundabout

It is hoped the newly implemented traffic signals will help manage congestion on the off slips, reduce the length of queues, speed of traffic and improve safety on the roundabout.

A Welsh Government spokesperson said: “Work is progressing well at the Junction 19 interchange which will improve safety and will be a boost for active travel.

"Most of the drainage and ducting work on the main roundabout and embankment has been completed, and work on the footpath has begun.

"Temporary traffic signals are now in place, with plans for permanent traffic signals as part of the scheme."
The works will also see the junction widened and the construction of safer crossings for pedestrians and cyclists.

Street lighting will also be upgraded to an energy-efficient LED alternative.

The work would originally have been carried out after the summer but due to Covid, traffic levels dropped on the A55 to almost half their normal levels.

This allowed the Welsh Government to start work earlier than intended.             ref Pioneer
   
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 10, 2020, 11:19:06 am
J19 at the moment has a queue onto the A55 towards Colwyn Bay for anyone wishing to exit westwards, same for anyone exiting eastwards from Conwy ... both queues extend to the main carriageway, so a danger to A55 main route traffic - there were cars pulling out of the queue to get back onto the A55.  Don't know how far the queue was towards Glan Conwy or Llandudno.

We were coming back from Colwyn Bay but carried on to the Tesco roundabout (J18) and doubled back through Juinction.  Queue was to bottom of Narrow Lane but we just managed to sneak past to get home (off Narrow Lane).

Suspect this is going to be the situation for quite some time, and don't know how much it will improve when they've finished the job, whatever the final layout is!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 10, 2020, 05:34:17 pm
Gors Road in Towyn was closed due to the fact that a car crashed into a ditch following a Police pursuit but it doesn't explain why there was that long queue on the A547

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-shut-road-towyn-18737804 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-shut-road-towyn-18737804)

Just a follow on from Saturday's report

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-charged-after-a55-police-18743625 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-charged-after-a55-police-18743625)


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 13, 2020, 01:46:52 pm
Landslide shuts a Snowdonia road

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/huge-landslide-shuts-snowdonia-road-18761234 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/huge-landslide-shuts-snowdonia-road-18761234)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 15, 2020, 03:00:24 pm
The A55 today!           &shake&

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-queues-build-a55-after-18774465 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-queues-build-a55-after-18774465)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 26, 2020, 10:50:02 am
There will be no problems with visitors parking on this stretch of the A5 today!

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/video-shows-scale-storm-francis-18829659 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/video-shows-scale-storm-francis-18829659)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2020, 05:17:33 pm
Awful weather and problems on the A55,  a typical Bank Holiday


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-a494-flintshire-sparks-18843822 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-a494-flintshire-sparks-18843822)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 28, 2020, 05:20:32 pm
Where are the Police patrol cars?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-motorists-slammed-doing-u-18844470 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-motorists-slammed-doing-u-18844470)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 29, 2020, 09:59:14 am
The strange reason these roadworks have been erected on Colwyn Bay promenade
A lane has been fenced off for those bursting for the toilet to queue safely

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/strange-reason-roadworks-been-erected-18847098 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/strange-reason-roadworks-been-erected-18847098)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 29, 2020, 12:21:42 pm
More trouble on the A55


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-sparks-long-delays-18848467 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-sparks-long-delays-18848467)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 31, 2020, 02:17:08 pm
LIVE: Air ambulance called to crash
Police are asking motorists to avoid the A547 near Abergele


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-called-crash-18855563 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-called-crash-18855563)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 07, 2020, 10:01:34 am
This is the strange moment three vehicles broke down in quick succession on the A55.

Highways officials had their work cut out on Sunday afternoon after the vehicles broke down on the eastbound carriageway while climbing Rhuallt Hill.
The hill's incline clearly proved too much for the motors, one of which was towing a caravan.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bizarre-moment-three-vehicles-break-18888795 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bizarre-moment-three-vehicles-break-18888795)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 10, 2020, 10:18:55 am
A child was struck by a car on the A547 between Colwyn Bay and Llanddulas

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-pedestrian-struck-car-a547-18908868 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-pedestrian-struck-car-a547-18908868)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 12, 2020, 04:57:02 pm
Conwy Tunnel eastbound lane to close from 7.00 pm tonight


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-conwy-tunnel-close-overnight-18924377 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-conwy-tunnel-close-overnight-18924377)
Title: Re:Bad Parking Decisions
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2020, 02:56:19 pm
I told you we should have parked in a tow away area   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/moment-pink-vw-camper-van-18936580 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/moment-pink-vw-camper-van-18936580)
Title: Re: Bad Parking Decisions
Post by: SteveH on September 16, 2020, 12:55:21 pm
I have never got involved with modern ! "Crowdfunding" , some requests seem quite genuine and necessary, others I am not so sure, take the case of the above, the people who parked their vehicles on the beach yesterday and got stranded, are asking for a fund of £20,000 (of which they have received £4,000 so far) to get their private business up and running again, I do not agree with this and I think it will harm genuine requests, is this me being uncharitable ?

Owner of VW Camper flooded by tide on how she fought desperately to save it - but now needs your help
Photographer Kitty Orme is now appealing for help to save her beloved van.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/owner-vw-camper-flooded-tide-18941738 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/owner-vw-camper-flooded-tide-18941738)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 16, 2020, 10:27:39 pm
I had a walk today with a friend who lives in that area and I believe that there are signs warning drivers about parking their vehicles on the beach
I was also advised that the local farmer pulls the vehicles off the beach when they are stuck and charges £100.00 for that service.  Whether her vehicle insurance covers the loss is another matter but coughing up £100.00 is better than the alternative
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 19, 2020, 10:36:25 pm
Inconsiderate parking again in Snowdonia


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/more-cars-removed-snowdonia-inconsiderate-18963676 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/more-cars-removed-snowdonia-inconsiderate-18963676)
Title: Re: Roads in the area,,,,,,,,Penrhyn Bay Accident
Post by: SteveH on September 22, 2020, 03:14:46 pm
Chris Ahearn, of Connor James Designs in Penrhyn Bay, was working in his design shop on Glan-y-Mor Road when a BMW crashed into the side of the building on Monday morning.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-ploughed-shop-missing-owner-18977060 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/car-ploughed-shop-missing-owner-18977060)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 25, 2020, 01:09:34 pm
 It doesn't seem that long since they did work on the St Asaph bridge but these new roadworks are due to last 11 weeks

The road sign says 4 weeks so it's anyone's guess just how long the work will last


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-bridge-roadworks-last-11-18996652 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-bridge-roadworks-last-11-18996652)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 26, 2020, 02:13:28 pm
There seems to be accidents on the A55 most days now

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-detached-caravan-forces-lane-19002845 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-detached-caravan-forces-lane-19002845)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on September 26, 2020, 08:30:12 pm
Hugo I've just seen a video off FB on the a55 by Abergele two idiots on a road rage no wonder accidents on the roads if them two are anything to go by 😡.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 26, 2020, 11:30:22 pm
What's  FB  Norman?          :o

Obviously I haven't seen the video but can imagine  what it was like and hope that the cops have seen it too and caught the idiots.

Hope that you are keeping safe and well,    it's nice to see your team doing so well at the start of the season      $good$
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 28, 2020, 12:12:32 pm
Closure on the A55 over fears for safety of a vulnerable person

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/full-a55-closure-over-fears-19009177 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/full-a55-closure-over-fears-19009177)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 28, 2020, 07:22:13 pm
Have the Police and the local authorities taken their eye off the ball...... again?             &shake&


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/video-shows-scale-snowdonia-parking-19010722 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/video-shows-scale-snowdonia-parking-19010722)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 30, 2020, 06:10:47 pm
Woman arrested after car overturns following crash on Anglesey



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-arrested-after-car-overturns-19025256 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-arrested-after-car-overturns-19025256)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2020, 03:09:28 pm
More trouble on the A55


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-shut-eastbound-major-19030440 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-shut-eastbound-major-19030440)


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pictures-show-scale-damage-after-19031357 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pictures-show-scale-damage-after-19031357)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2020, 03:15:20 pm
Dashcam appeal as police hunt van driver who 'may have been involved' in A55 crash

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dashcam-appeal-police-hunt-van-19030321 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dashcam-appeal-police-hunt-van-19030321)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 02, 2020, 03:44:10 pm
A council's decision to bring in a one-way system for walkers and cyclists to help with social distancing has divided opinion.

Conwy County Borough Council has made the path next to the road crossing over the Afon Conwy one way for pedestrians heading towards Llandudno Junction.

To make the return trip people need to cross the road - with new temporary traffic lights put in place - and walk back along the suspension bridge.

cont   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/councils-new-one-way-system-19039253 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/councils-new-one-way-system-19039253)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 02, 2020, 04:17:43 pm
I cam see the logic in this, so why not take it further and have places such as the High Street one way - pedestrians walk down one side of the street, and back the other - impossible to maintain social distancing otherwise.

Could do the same in Llandudno Mostyn Street as well.

My personal way out of this is not to visit the towns in the first place!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 04, 2020, 02:42:46 pm
Giving her the benefit of the doubt, she is teaching them road sense. ;)

https://www.tiktok.com/@hacks_3/video/6849693702277893382?source=h5_m (https://www.tiktok.com/@hacks_3/video/6849693702277893382?source=h5_m)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 04, 2020, 02:52:35 pm
The sign doesn't actually specify vehicles only, so she is correct as well as teaching the kids.

If only cyclists did the same thing.
 *cycle*
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 05, 2020, 12:12:58 pm
Another crash on the A55.  this time on the east bound lane by Bodelwyddan

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-causes-delays-19049311 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-causes-delays-19049311)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 09, 2020, 10:24:19 am
A crash by Pen Y Clip on the A55 has caused some problems this morning


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-causes-traffic-19075967 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-causes-traffic-19075967)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 13, 2020, 10:03:25 am
COUNCILS are set to be given the power to fine people for parking on pavements.

Welsh Government ministers are backing recommendations by independent panel the Welsh Pavement Parking Taskforce (WPPT) that would grant local authorities additional civil enforcement powers to fine problem parkers by 2022.

There is no specific offence of parking on pavements and while police can enforce the criminal offence of causing ‘unnecessary obstruction of any part of the highway’ it is rarely used.

“The current law is not as clear as it could be", said Deputy Transport Minister, Lee Waters, who set up the taskforce.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18790016.welsh-government-give-local-authorities-power-tackle-problem-parking-pavements/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18790016.welsh-government-give-local-authorities-power-tackle-problem-parking-pavements/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Blongb on October 13, 2020, 10:55:18 pm
COUNCILS are set to be given the power to fine people for parking on pavements.Welsh Government ministers are backing recommendations by independent panel the Welsh Pavement Parking Taskforce (WPPT) that would grant local authorities additional civil enforcement powers to fine problem parkers by 2022.

One Law I totally agree with, it's so overdue.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 14, 2020, 01:59:54 pm
Some might like to add their names to the petition to try and prevent more deaths of young drivers, their passengers and other road users as a result of inappropriate driving and lack of experience.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54512237 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54512237)

I started this thread 10 years ago, many more young people have died during that time and in doing so, other innocent lives have been lost in the process, and yet nothing has been done to try and improve matters.
I don't see how anyone could actually oppose common sense.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 14, 2020, 02:50:30 pm
Agreed, and have signed the petition, a link from the article leads to a suggestion for using mini dash cams, as a way of reducing their insurance, a combination of both might make a good deterrent for those who drive dangerously.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 14, 2020, 04:26:07 pm
A tracker in the car also helps and reduces the insurance premiums.     A friend of mine had a tracker fitted to his young daughter's car and it not only tells my friend where she is, where she has been and how fast she was driving.
His daughter knows about it and is in agreement otherwise the insurance for a young person would be sky high
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 15, 2020, 08:37:21 am
Two vehicle crash on the A55 by Northop sparks delays on the road

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-two-vehicle-crash-sparks-19106549 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-two-vehicle-crash-sparks-19106549)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 18, 2020, 02:58:07 pm
I wanted to go to the Kinmel Bay Water Garden Centre today and normally I would drive along the A55 from Colwyn Bay, turn off at the Three Ways roundabout  and proceed along the Abergele Straights to the Borth Cross Roads roundabout where I would turn left to go to the Garden Centre.
However these are not normal times and Borth Cross Roads is in Denbighshire and vehicles from Conwy are not allowed to go into Denbighshire.    Also  I had been speaking to a friend earlier and she told me that a person who lived in Rhyl had gone over to Kinmel Bay and was promptly fined for doing so
So I had a dilemma, chance going along the Borth Cross Roads route and chancing the Police not being there or go through Towyn and down St Asaph Avenue in Kinmel Bay to get there.
One look at Mrs H  was enough.  I settled for a safe and peaceful life and went through Towyn and returned the same way and didn't break any  lockdown instructions
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on October 18, 2020, 03:59:02 pm
I did that same trip but as the road is the border on OS maps I took the risk on the way there by passing the Denbighshire (welcomes you!!) sign  on the A547.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 18, 2020, 04:28:17 pm
My car is going in to the dealers on Friday for a fuel pump change (subject of a recall).

I have been told to have very little fuel in the tank when I take it in.  In the past month I have only driven about 50 miles and there is enough fuel for another 200 miles.

So consult the OS map - a nice scenic run from Llandudno Junction down the Conwy Valley to Betws-y-Coed, eastwards along the A5 to Pentrefoelas then northwards (A543) towards Denbigh and Denbighshire.  However, just before crossing the border turn left up an unclassified road, passing Llyn Aled and on to Llansannan, down to Abergele and home.  That should take up about 60 to 70 miles.

Still need to use up another 80 miles or so ... from home to Abergele along the A55 is 10 miles (20 round trip) and from home to Llanfairfechan is about the same.

That should do, and I won't be crossing the border!

It's the opposite of being in the Dukes of Hazzard, fleeing the Police and crossing the county line!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 19, 2020, 03:28:42 pm
Enjoy your freedom while you still can DVT, we have little time left to do so!!

Meanwhile yesterday a drive up the Conwy Valley for me. I note the Black Cat roadworks coming along nicely but was a bit bemused to see the road markings being A470G to indicate the lane to go north. Most local and Welsh speaking users will probably be familiar with the route anyway but no doubt most foreigners ( including those from just across the border) might not be. Surely N would have been a more appropriate choice although I daresay those avid Nationalists who insist on the Welsh language coming first would prefer we don't allow visitors at all!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 19, 2020, 04:34:39 pm
I went round the new layout this morning and didn't notice the G instead of N ... there seemed to be too many road markings and impossible to take them all in - I was too busy looking ahead instead of down!

Have the Welsh direction letters been used elsewhere, I've never noticed them ... how do they differentiate between G (Gogledd, North) and G (Gorllewin, West) and also D (De, South) or D (Dwyrain, East) ??? !!!  Welsh speakers won't know if they're coming or going.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 20, 2020, 11:09:36 am
Drove the tiny part of the roundabout between the Junction and Llandudno exits and a quick glance seemed to have S,E,W markings.It is confusing for a stranger I imagine!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Blongb on October 20, 2020, 02:07:13 pm
Enjoy your freedom while you still can DVT, we have little time left to do so!!

Meanwhile yesterday a drive up the Conwy Valley for me. I note the Black Cat roadworks coming along nicely but was a bit bemused to see the road markings being A470G to indicate the lane to go north. Most local and Welsh speaking users will probably be familiar with the route anyway but no doubt most foreigners ( including those from just across the border) might not be. Surely N would have been a more appropriate choice although I daresay those avid Nationalists who insist on the Welsh language coming first would prefer we don't allow visitors at all!

I was under the impression that all Road Signs and Markings had to be Bi-Lingual or am I missing some thing?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 22, 2020, 09:45:32 am
Police expecting caravans 'flying across the A55' ahead of Wales entering 'fire-break' lockdown
Chief Inspector Jeff Moses said he anticipates 'lots of of people trying to come to Wales'

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-expecting-caravans-flying-across-19144877 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-expecting-caravans-flying-across-19144877)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2020, 02:41:22 pm
I drove down Mostyn Broadway in Llandudno today to go to Mostyn Champneys retail park and the traffic was extremely busy and it was bad for car drivers and pedestrians alike.
It made me think about that section of the road being mentioned some years ago by Wrex.     Quite often we don't give credit when credit is due and Wrex was concerned for the safety of pedestrians on Mostyn Broadway ( by the B & Q Store ) and suggested traffic lights at that spot but the Council didn't adopt that idea for a number of years.
Thank goodness they eventually did install them because that area is much safer for pedestrians now, so well done Wrex for having the foresight to see the dangers there                &well&
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 30, 2020, 01:49:43 pm
A55 driver did this to their car - but still managed to 'run away'


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-driver-car-still-managed-19192573 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-driver-car-still-managed-19192573)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 31, 2020, 10:42:37 am
LIVE: A55 shut in both directions due to cows on the carriageway
The road has been shut at Rhuallt Hill while the animals are removed

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-shut-both-directions-19197836 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-shut-both-directions-19197836)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 31, 2020, 01:12:12 pm
Hopefully they can be moooooved on quickly.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: cygnusx-1 on November 08, 2020, 10:34:33 am
It looks like some Welsh holidaymakers have jumped the gun and moved a day early. It will be an easy story for the Daily Post as they can see it from their window. Also it is a 20 second drive from Headquarters for the Police to have a word!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 08, 2020, 11:57:03 am
I wonder how far those travellers have driven to get to Prestatyn, but they always seem to be above the law anyway
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on November 08, 2020, 02:07:52 pm
Hugo talking to friends earlier they were saying someone turned up at a house across from them, he went over and knocked they guy had come up from Surrey they told him in no certain terms to go back they reckon he's gone. 😡
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 08, 2020, 02:18:15 pm
Good on your friends Norman, those people have no right to be here with these restrictions in force.      Likewise the people in Wales have no right to go to England unless there is a valid reason for doing so.
I just wish that everyone  would obey the rules and then perhaps the virus will go away quicker.


just a thought but the Broughton retail park in Wales is about 400 yards from the English border and now that England is in lockdown I wonder if any of them will break the rules and come over to Wales?           &shake&
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2020, 09:58:59 am
When A55 'Black Cat' roundabout project set to be completed after months of roadworks
The pinch point scheme has seen months of work at the A470 junction near Glan Conwy and Llandudno Junction

Highways improvement works on the 'Black Cat' roundabout at Glan Conwy have been finished off - with the contractor now turning attention to the final activity of streetlighting replacement.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-black-cat-roundabout-project-19298182 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-black-cat-roundabout-project-19298182)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2020, 10:59:01 am
The A547 in Abergele remains closed after crash yesterday


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-shuts-a547-abergele-19323164 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-shuts-a547-abergele-19323164)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 22, 2020, 01:16:32 pm
This must be the reason for the closure of the road, it's so tragic

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-dies-after-being-hit-19324672 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-dies-after-being-hit-19324672)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 23, 2020, 03:53:34 pm
This must be the reason for the closure of the road, it's so tragic

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-dies-after-being-hit-19324672 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/woman-dies-after-being-hit-19324672)

Sad news.......... TRIBUTES have been paid to a 58-year-old woman who died following a crash between a pedestrian and a car near I'm A Celebrity's Gwrych Castle.

Sharn Iona Hughes, of Prestatyn, described as a devoted wife to Elfyn Hughes and loving mother to Arron and Annah Hughes, died whilst attempting to see the lights at Gwrych Castle.   ref  Pioneer
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 25, 2020, 09:52:08 am
The latest idea to stop 'incredibly dangerous' Snowdonia parking chaos
Double yellow lines could be introduced near Llyn Padarn in Llanberis

Scenes of cars parked on either side of the road have become familiar sights over the past few years, particularly during the summer months.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/latest-idea-stop-incredibly-dangerous-19338468 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/latest-idea-stop-incredibly-dangerous-19338468)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 25, 2020, 04:15:33 pm
I came from Conwy on the A55 just about half an hour ago and on the westbound lane just before the Black Cat roundabout there appeared to be an accident involving a number of cars.
Traffic was moving slowly in the overtaking lane but there was a horrendous tailback in both lanes as far as the West End of Colwyn Bay
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 25, 2020, 05:03:45 pm
This is a follow up to my last post

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-three-vehicle-a55-crash-19344975 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-three-vehicle-a55-crash-19344975)
Title: Re: Roads in the area..A470-shut following a two-vehicle crash.
Post by: SteveH on November 28, 2020, 11:14:04 am
The A470-shut following a two-vehicle crash.

The road is closed near Bodnant Gardens in Conwy county and drivers have been urged to avoid the area.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-crash-near-19362879 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-crash-near-19362879)
Title: Re: Roads in the area..A470-shut following a two-vehicle crash.
Post by: SteveH on November 28, 2020, 04:14:36 pm
Follow up......... ref DP

Police are appealing for witnesses after a biker was flown to Liverpool for hospital treatment following a crash.

The A470 was closed in Tal-y-Cafn after the crash at about 8.30am.

North Wales Police said the incident involved a black and white Triumph motorcycle and a red Volkswagen campervan.

The motorcycle was travelling from the direction of Llanrwst generally towards Glan Conwy.

Officers are now asking any witnesses or anyone with dash cam footage to help them with their investigations.
Title: Re: Roads in the area..A55 shut from Llanddulas to old Colwyn
Post by: SteveH on December 08, 2020, 03:18:41 pm
10 mins ago
A55 shut from Llanddulas to old Colwyn after crash

THE A55 has been shut at Llanddulas following a crash on Tuesday afternoon.

North Wales Police and Wales Air Ambulance were called to the incident on the westbound lane from Llanddulas to Old Colwyn before 2.30pm.

Traffic Wales warned there is heavy congestion as emergency services are present.

"Road closure currently in place in both directions on the A55 Llanddulas, Junction 22 to Junction 23," police tweeted.

"Officers are currently dealing with a road traffic collision.

"Please avoid the area and use alternative routes where possible."

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18929202.a55-shut-llanddulas-crash/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18929202.a55-shut-llanddulas-crash/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 16, 2020, 10:42:48 am
This driver was lucky to escape with his life when he was parked in a lay by and a lorry hit his car


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55324309 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55324309)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 17, 2020, 03:27:12 pm
A look into the future.........

LIVE: A55 gridlocked with huge queues of Holyhead Port traffic
Police have urging motorists to find an alternative route

Several ferries which were due to leave this morning have been delayed today, which could help to explain the major queues.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-holyhead-port-traffic-sparks-19477508 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-holyhead-port-traffic-sparks-19477508)
Title: Re: Roads in the area.......TOUCHLESS traffic lights
Post by: SteveH on December 18, 2020, 03:03:04 pm
TOUCHLESS traffic lights are being trialled in Conwy to prevent the spread of viruses.        ref Pioneer

Conwy County Borough Council said that as part of a three-month trial the crossings have been installed outside Marks & Spencer on Mostyn Street, Llandudno and near Ysgol Bryn Elian on Abergele Road in Old Colwyn.

Instead of pressing a button, pedestrians wave their hand in front of the button to activate the red light signal.

The design aims to help reduce people’s exposure to contact viruses commonly found on push buttons including Covid-19.

“So far the trial is going well, with about 40 per cent of users taking advantage of the technology,” said Cllr Greg Robbins, Cabinet Member for Environment and Transportation.

“If we continue to get good results, we will bid for funding from Welsh Government to install more of these crossings.”
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 18, 2020, 03:21:19 pm
Talking of Traffic lights, I was driving through Llandudno Junction today and drove past the Tre Marl Industrial Estate when I came to the traffic lights at the large Black Cat roundabout.
The lights were on green but we couldn't move off because traffic was coming from the east bound slipway. That traffic stopped and immediately traffic started coming from the Glan Conwy side although our lights were still on green.
I saw a gap in the traffic and went for it to get on the eastbound lane of the A55 but it was back to the whacky races that they had on the roundabout before.
Has anyone noticed a problem with the lights today?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on December 18, 2020, 04:20:37 pm
I was discussing that very same thing with my sister yesterday - I live in Junction, she lives in Mochdre and was leaving us to go home.  I told her to be careful at that junction.

The lights on the A547 when approaching the big roundabout are NOT for the junction, they are for the pedestrian crossing that is a few yards before the junction - not that many use it.

Like you, I would expect anyone seeing the green lights to assume that it is their turn to join the roundabout but, as you say, there could still be traffic coming from either the eastbound slip road or from Glan Conway direction under the bridge.

I took a walk by there a couple of weeks ago and mentioned this to one of the workers.  He told me he had already seen three bumps there since the lights were put up.

I also think some of the markings on the road are incorrect - as well as being extremely difficult to read due to so much of it, and you're trying to watch what is ahead.

Then, of course, there is the cycle lane through the middle of the roundabout.  When I went for my walk I saw two cyclists using it - a father and young daughter.  But I also saw two cyclists still on the main carriageway round the roundabout - they were lycralout types - you know the ones that complain of not enough being done to keep the cyclists safe - grrrr!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 18, 2020, 05:48:50 pm
Thanks very much for pointing out that those lights were for the pedestrian crossing DVT.    It all seems very confusing and worse than ever.
Talking about cyclists,  I was driving to the West Shore today along Gloddaeth Street and the two cyclists in front of me were riding two abreast.    I was driving very slowly and on the verge of overtaking them safely when one of the old duffers wobbled on his bike and wandered into the outside lane obviously oblivious to my presence
A toot on the horn alerted him and he then went into single file where he should have been in the first place, but to be honest the roads don't seem safe for cyclists nowadays .   
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 18, 2020, 08:47:11 pm
Stretch of road in Llandudno shut after crash,,, Conway Road has been partly closed


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-road-llandudno-shut-both-19487062 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-road-llandudno-shut-both-19487062)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 19, 2020, 01:03:50 pm
Stretch of road in Llandudno shut after crash,,, Conway Road has been partly closed

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-road-llandudno-shut-both-19487062 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-road-llandudno-shut-both-19487062)

Pensioner killed after car rolled over her in Llandudno
The 73-year-old was exiting a vehicle when it moved back and collided with her last night

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/pensioner-killed-after-car-rolled-19488649 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/pensioner-killed-after-car-rolled-19488649)


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 29, 2020, 10:06:39 am
January 5-9: Eastbound J18 Llandudno Junction to J20 Brompton Avenue, will be closed. Essential carriageway patching and street lighting works between 8.30pm – 6pm.
Diversions will be in place.

January 15-29:  Jct 19 essential renewal of worn out bridge expansion joints at Glan Conwy Viaduct. The eastbound carriageway will be closed for a week, when the westbound will be closed for a week.

According to Traffic Wales "Significant queueing and delay is expected at peak times especially on the A55 with moderate queueing expected at other times".

Diversions will be in place with a 40mph speed limit on open carriageway to provide a safe area for contractors working close to the central reserve barrier on the closed carriageway.                          ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 30, 2020, 09:22:58 am
LIVE: Emergency services called to A55 crashes as snow sparks disruption

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-emergency-services-called-a55-19537287 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-emergency-services-called-a55-19537287)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on December 30, 2020, 09:29:33 am
Have you got snow up there Hugo, few cars flipped over on a 55, some drivers still think it's ok to bomb along.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 30, 2020, 09:35:50 am
We have had showers of sleet and hail up here and it has stuck on the roads and grass.     Our steep drive is covered in hail so I'll have to dig the drive out if we want to move the car.
You are right about those nutters on the road Norman but it's usually the others who get injured
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 30, 2020, 11:22:56 am
I've dug out the hail and sleet from my drive and at least I can get my car on to the road.    While I was doing that a neighbour came past and he had to go to Bodelwydden  early this morning and CCBC had not gritted the very steep King's Drive so he had to go all the way down the hill in first gear.

Talking of steep hills Norman, how is your old stomping ground on the Great Orme?     That building on the right of the photo ( between Ty Gwyn Rd and Old Road ) has taken a few hits over the years, no wonder they have put bollards in front of it
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on December 30, 2020, 02:12:50 pm
Hugo I can honestly say I miss living up there 😢 But too many cars up there now ty gwyn rd is bad. Them two shops are missed I'm sure up there, yes that old grocers shop has had a few cars go into it,   I was up invalids this morning father and 3 sons climbing up the paths 2 off them had old trainers on, I said be carefull climbing there it will be slippy they new it all 🤔😳
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Blongb on December 30, 2020, 03:08:26 pm
Luckily we have a grit bin at the top of Hill Terrace and I was able to use it to make the back path into mine safe to use this morning.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 30, 2020, 03:45:41 pm
I hope they don't learn the lesson the hard way,   locals know best. $good$           I still laugh to myself about the story your Dad told me when he worked on the Pier and the sailor wouldn't listen to him when he was mooring his yacht for the night
At least Uncle Bob had the last laugh when the single keeled yacht was on it's side and the know it all sailor was bailing water out from the boat
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 31, 2020, 09:55:03 am
More crashes today on the A55


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-multiple-accidents-a55-north-19542638 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-multiple-accidents-a55-north-19542638)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 31, 2020, 10:06:08 am
More crashes today on the A55
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-multiple-accidents-a55-north-19542638 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-multiple-accidents-a55-north-19542638)

I had a look on the CCTV road cams https://trafficcameras.uk/a55/ (https://trafficcameras.uk/a55/)  in time to find this appropriate photo.........
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 02, 2021, 01:20:45 pm
I was driving down the West Shore earlier today and heading towards the Toll House.    I was behind a car for some distance until it pulled in on the left without indicating,  which is nothing unusual nowadays.  I then went to go past the car, when again without indicating it did a three point turn right in front of me
I gave a very loud blast on my car horn and the young female driver looked at me as if I was in the wrong.  Thank goodness there was no ice on the road or otherwise I would have hit the car by the driver's side but at least I have a dash cam in my car
When driver's don't realise that what they have done wrong then it's quite dangerous
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2021, 02:15:21 pm
The staggering number of people convicted of speeding in Wales during coronavirus pandemic


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/staggering-number-people-convicted-speeding-19559002 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/staggering-number-people-convicted-speeding-19559002)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 08, 2021, 12:35:21 pm
LIVE: Heavy snow sparks crashes and major disruption on roads


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-emergency-services-a55-crash-19584818 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-emergency-services-a55-crash-19584818)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 08, 2021, 12:57:37 pm
LIVE: Heavy snow sparks crashes and major disruption on roadshttps://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-emergency-services-a55-crash-19584818 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-emergency-services-a55-crash-19584818)

the A55 Web cams showing snowy scenes in some areas   https://trafficcameras.uk/a55/ (https://trafficcameras.uk/a55/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 08, 2021, 06:26:46 pm
The A55 was quite nasty at 7am this morning  when I took my OH to Bangor hospital. Road reports sounded to say that it was worse going in the other direction.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Blongb on January 13, 2021, 12:20:38 pm
The road up through Happy Valley Gardens to the Ski slope, from Parcellas Café up to the Cattle Grid by the toboggan run, is being resurfaced by Hogans. It's giving them a few problems due to the steepness of the Hill. I am of the opinion that it should never have been opened up for motor vehicles, but the traffic should have used Black Gate entrance off Ty Gwen Rd. instead. Gardens are for people to enjoy and not to put up with the fumes of cars.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 13, 2021, 12:44:49 pm
I agree with you Blongb but I don't envy any visitors having to do the alternative route up Ty Gwyn Road and Wyddfyd Road.
The last time I did that it was like a nightmare,  the parking in Ty Gwyn Road by the lights was ridiculous and then you have that very sharp right hand turn into Wyddfyd Road to contend with.
I'm a local so I knew what to expect but sadly the visitors don't.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on January 13, 2021, 02:49:31 pm
Thing is Hugo years ago the locals living wydfydd and prospect terrace used to turn left onto llwynon rd turn around and go back across the tram lines, mind you more cars up there now and traffic lights.    The only light we had was from the phone box 😂😂
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 13, 2021, 03:01:55 pm
Yes, times have changed over the years Norman but going up Ty Gwyn Road by the lights nowadays is a challenge even for the locals
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Blongb on January 13, 2021, 05:12:51 pm
Yes, times have changed over the years Norman but going up Ty Gwyn Road by the lights nowadays is a challenge even for the locals

Perhaps that's because certain ex councillors lived on Ty Gwyn Hill just before the traffic lights and prevented the very necessary double yellow lines from being installed. Guaranteed to cause a bottle neck in busy times.
Title: Re: ROADS in Llandudno to close for up to nine weeks
Post by: SteveH on January 18, 2021, 12:40:16 pm
ROADS in Llandudno could close for up to nine weeks as work is carried out to improve the junction on Mostyn Street by the Tudno Castle Hotel.

The work will see a right turn lane implemented from Conwy Road to Mostyn Broadway.

In a public notice published in the Pioneer, Conwy County Borough Council revealed that roads - including Vaughan Street, Mostyn Street and Mostyn Broadway - would be closed for a maximum period of nine weeks from Monday, January 25.

"Conwy County Borough Council has made an order to enable a new road layout construction," the notice added.

"The effect of which will be to prohibit any person from causing any vehicle to proceed in the lengths of road specified in the schedule and to prohibit any person from causing any vehicle to park in those parking bays specified."

The works will involve:
Vaughan Street: Road closure from the junction of Conway Road to the junction of Adelphi Street.
Mostyn Street: Road closure from the junction of John Street to the junction of Vaughan Street.
Mostyn Broadway: Prohibition of parking outside the doctor's surgery.
A spokesperson from Conwy council told the Pioneer: "We are improving the junction on Mostyn Street by Tudno Castle Hotel to reduce traffic congestion and improve flow, especially at peak times. This will include adding a right turn lane from Conwy Road to Mostyn Broadway.

"The work is expected to take seven weeks but the order is in place for nine weeks in case of delays."

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on January 18, 2021, 01:29:18 pm
So it should be open by next Christmas 🤔
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 18, 2021, 01:42:52 pm
If there is now going to be 90 bedrooms, I wonder where they are all going to park their cars overnight?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on January 18, 2021, 02:30:29 pm
We ve thought of that Bri but the brains haven't,  can see it now all parking on debenhams getting home to a hefty overstayed parking charge,  if a certain councillors good plans had been carried on for the town may have worked.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on January 18, 2021, 08:24:25 pm
If there is now going to be 90 bedrooms, I wonder where they are all going to park their cars overnight?

Same as they do for Travelodge-----all over the surrounding roads.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 19, 2021, 10:43:46 am
A55 bridge expansion works delayed by Brexit - when they will restart and how you will be affected
The work to replace joints in the Glan Conwy Viaduct at Junction 19 have been rescheduled

Due to start January 15, the joints are now to make their way towards the construction site in the next two weeks, with work expected to begin on Friday, January 29.

To keep road users and the workforce safe, the viaduct above Junction 19 could be closed for up to two weeks with traffic being diverted via the roundabout and slip roads below.   

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-bridge-expansion-works-delayed-19647969 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-bridge-expansion-works-delayed-19647969)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on January 19, 2021, 12:20:51 pm
A55 bridge expansion works delayed by Brexit - when they will restart and how you will be affected
The work to replace joints in the Glan Conwy Viaduct at Junction 19 have been rescheduled

Due to start January 15, the joints are now to make their way towards the construction site in the next two weeks, with work expected to begin on Friday, January 29.

To keep road users and the workforce safe, the viaduct above Junction 19 could be closed for up to two weeks with traffic being diverted via the roundabout and slip roads below.   

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-bridge-expansion-works-delayed-19647969 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-bridge-expansion-works-delayed-19647969)


I guess it will help matters if the rule of all but essential travel is maintained. Wonder how long it will take to complete?

I did have legitimate cause to travel last Friday and I thought the layout at the roundabout was an improvement. I have read some negative and In my humble opinion stupid comments on the local FB page ( which does seem to attract quite a few idiots) who said that if you couldn't manage to negotiate it before the changes then you shouldn't be on the road. That view could only be held by a local person. because certainly if you were a stranger trying to negotiate the correct lane was indeed a lottery especially coming off the A55 to head to Glan Conwy and the A470.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 19, 2021, 03:24:35 pm
Full list of North Wales flood alerts as Storm Christoph set to bring torrential rain.      Driving conditions will be bad on all roads with the very wet and windy conditions so motorists should drive according to the conditions

https://i2-prod.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article19578364.ece/ALTERNATES/s458/1_Serious-accident-on-the-A548-at-Ffynongroyw-Road-closure-in-place.jpg (https://i2-prod.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article19578364.ece/ALTERNATES/s458/1_Serious-accident-on-the-A548-at-Ffynongroyw-Road-closure-in-place.jpg)

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/full-list-north-wales-flood-19653430 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/full-list-north-wales-flood-19653430)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 20, 2021, 05:35:44 pm
Full list of 34 North Wales roads shut or affected by Storm Christoph


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/full-list-north-wales-roads-19661854 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/full-list-north-wales-roads-19661854)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 22, 2021, 12:14:51 pm
Villagers face seven mile diversion for at least 18 months after Storm Christoph destroyed bridge
The main route between Trefnant and Tremeirchion is now impassible


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/villagers-face-seven-mile-diversion-19679439 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/villagers-face-seven-mile-diversion-19679439)
Title: Re: Roads in the area update
Post by: SteveH on January 23, 2021, 11:05:17 am
Neighbour told me roads icy, and bus crashed into wall on Penrhyn hill, be careful.

Updates....

Council Gritter crashed at C/Bay Westend roundabout, and Police car in ditch at Blackcat

Title: Re: Roads in the area........................fuel spill
Post by: SteveH on January 28, 2021, 09:59:37 am
MOTORISTS are being warned to take care following reports of a fuel spill on the A55.

This is between J22 Old Colwyn and J24 Abergele travelling Eastbound.

Traffic Wales North and Mid tweeted on January 29: "Reports of a fuel spill on the A55 J22 Old Colwyn - J24 Abergele travelling eastbound.

"Gritters en route.

"Take care if you're travelling in the area."
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 12, 2021, 04:42:19 pm
LIVE: A55 closed in both directions after crashes and fallen power cables
Three crashes have taken place after strong winds sparked difficult driving conditions


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-closed-both-directions-19826568 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-closed-both-directions-19826568)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 13, 2021, 02:47:16 pm
The eastbound carriageway of the A55 by Abergwyngregyn will be CLOSED from approx 2:30pm for an estimated 2 hours to recover the HGV and van that overturned yesterday.

https://twitter.com/NWPolice/status/1360580129311842307?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 04, 2021, 10:19:06 am
A vulnerable waterfront road will be closed for up to 12 months to install the next phase of sea defences worth more than £6m.

Approximately half a mile of rock armour will be built in front of Old Colwyn’s promenade after Welsh Government stumped up the cash to pay for it.

It means the stretch just east of Porth Eirias up to Splash Point will be closed for a year while works are completed.

The £6.075m scheme, which continues on from the previous phase of the project, will help protect the area from flooding and wave over-topping for another 100 years.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19134848.old-colwyn-seafront-road-closed-12-months-next-phase-6m-sea-defences/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19134848.old-colwyn-seafront-road-closed-12-months-next-phase-6m-sea-defences/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 05, 2021, 10:06:31 am
The A55 Conwy tunnel will close on Saturday (March 6) for a duration of 12 days.

The tunnel, which is located between junctions 17 and 18, will close at 7pm on that day and will reopen at 7am on Thursday, March 18.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-conwy-tunnel-closures-set-19967174 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-conwy-tunnel-closures-set-19967174)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 16, 2021, 06:20:16 pm
More problems with the A55
A55 motorists face 35 mile detour misery due to roadworks
Eastbound drivers from Gwynedd and Anglesey will be diverted to the A5 and the A470 and the Conwy tunnel will be shut for a time affecting westbound traffic



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-motorists-face-35-mile-20188811 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-motorists-face-35-mile-20188811)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on March 16, 2021, 06:45:57 pm
It's going to cause fun and games in Betws...
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 17, 2021, 06:34:45 am
This won't help the traffic from Anglesey either

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-britannia-bridge-short-closures-20190347 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-britannia-bridge-short-closures-20190347)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 24, 2021, 03:16:43 pm
That's a nice Christmas present!             &shake&


Was this the link (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roundabout-removal-penmaenmawr-llanfairfechan-20244657) you wanted, Hugo?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on March 25, 2021, 08:44:41 pm
I had the opportunity to travel to the new A55/Black Cat roundabout today and all I can say is it's confusing...and I know where I want to go. So many road markings you can't read them and watch the traffic at the same time. I can see a stranger having huge difficulty especially when a local starts taking an aggressive driving position to dominate the road.
Title: Re: Roads in the area....New Snowdonia car parking
Post by: SteveH on April 02, 2021, 10:12:48 am
Visitors to a Snowdonia car park will now permanently have to pre-book parking slots at certain times under new rules brought in by the national park.

The Pen-y-Pass car park - which lies at the foot of Snowdon - can accommodate around 80 vehicles and lies at the start of two popular routes to the summit of Wales’ highest peak.
A new pilot scheme for weekends and bank holidays began last August - meaning access to the car park was reserved for pre-bookings only.

Until recently it would cost walkers £10 to park all day.
But the Snowdonia National Park Authority (SNPA) has now scrapped the £10 fee and has introduced a permanent online pre-booking service along with a range of parking tariffs.

They will start from £18 to park at the site for between one and eight hours, going up to £25 for 12 hours.
Those who chose to park for 24 hours will now have to pay £40.

It is understood that these new parking tariffs will be in place for the duration of the 'peak' season - or until November.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdon-walkers-now-pay-more-20308487 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdon-walkers-now-pay-more-20308487)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 02, 2021, 03:41:01 pm
Further on above story

Cones laid along A5 in Snowdonia to stop parking chaos from Easter visitors
Illegal parking along the A5 at Llyn Ogwen has in the past caused major problems

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/cones-laid-along-a5-snowdonia-20311088 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/cones-laid-along-a5-snowdonia-20311088)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on April 02, 2021, 08:38:47 pm
Bet it took ages to deposit all those so evenly ! &well&
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on April 02, 2021, 09:05:43 pm
Mrs and I went for a drive this afternoon - A55 to Llandygai, then A5 to Betws-y-Coed, then back down the valley.

Was amazed at how many cars were parked at Llyn Ogwen, there was very little space left, other than where the long line of cones were - must have been about a mile of cones on both sides - we didn't count them!  I did spot a couple in the lake as well.

The straight stretch of road on the Betws side of the coned section also had cars parked all the way down one side.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 12, 2021, 12:18:52 pm
A55 and A494 traffic updates LIVE: Queues form as cross-border travel restrictions end
Delays are forming on stretches of the A494 in Flintshire and the A55

It is one of the first times in months that motorists are experiencing delays caused by the volume of traffic on the roads into North Wales.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-a494-traffic-updates-live-20367529 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-a494-traffic-updates-live-20367529)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on April 12, 2021, 06:59:42 pm
Left at 2pm and drove to Liverpool. The only hold-up was along the Strand in Liverpool.  A55 might be busier when we return later as people cannot stay overnight!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on April 12, 2021, 10:08:40 pm
Just got back, clear run apart from the occasional red traffic light - thought it might have been busy due to people returning but perhaps they were staying in England in a little bit longer!.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on April 13, 2021, 01:11:20 pm
First ride out since last October. Thought Betws might be busy but as you can see it was very quiet.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2021, 06:31:56 pm
A55 crash LIVE updates as tunnel section shut due to ongoing incident
The westbound lane of the Penmaenbach Tunnel is currently closed.     Apparently there have been other crashes on the A55 today and I'm not surprised because when I drove on the A55 on Wednesday the westbound lane was as busy as any August Bank Holiday


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-shuts-penmaenbach-20404613 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-shuts-penmaenbach-20404613)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 17, 2021, 10:11:48 am
This could have been cleared ?

Scenic road around Llandudno's Great Orme closed after rockfall
Council staff are working to reopen Marine Drive which was closed just before 4pm

20:48, 16 APR 2021UPDATED22:12, 16 APR 2021

Road barriers are in place from Happy Valley to St Tudno’s Road.

Pedestrians and cyclists, as well as vehicles, have been stopped from using the road while the rockfall is cleared.

Inrix, the traffic reporting service, said the closure is likely to remain in place well into the evening.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 19, 2021, 07:51:52 pm
LIVE: A55 lanes closed after smash involving lorry and caravan
The incident on Rhuallt Hill is causing delays

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-lanes-closed-after-20420329 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-lanes-closed-after-20420329)
Title: Re: Roads in the area............ Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on April 23, 2021, 02:28:05 pm
LIVE: Delays as fallen tree blocks main road into Llandudno town centre    ref DP
The tree has come down on the A470 near the turning for ASDA


14:24
Road cleared
The road has now been cleared, according to traffic analysts Inrix.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 29, 2021, 02:41:24 pm
LIVE: A55 at a standstill in both directions as air ambulance lands after car overturns
The incident has happened between Junctions 38 and 39
I dread to think what the A55 will be like this Bank Holiday weekend


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-standstill-both-directions-20492540 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-standstill-both-directions-20492540)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 05, 2021, 10:44:35 am
A ROAD closure will be in place to allow works to be carried out by Welsh Water.                   ref Pioneer

In a public notice, featured in this week's Pioneer, notice is given that Conwy County Borough Council intend not less than seven days from May 24 to make an order, the effect of which will be to prohibit any vehicle to proceed in that length of Church Road, Rhos On Sea, from the junction of Llandudno Road to the junction of Bryn Eglwys.

The notice added: "The order is necessary to facilitate works by Welsh Water, residential and emergency access will be maintained at all times.

"The alternative route will be via Llandudno Road and Marlborough Drive and vice versa and will be signposted accordingly."
The road is expected to be closed for a maximum period of 16 days.

Another notice says Pwllycrochan Avenue in Colwyn Bay will be closed for a maximum period of 14 days so that works by G C Construction can be carried out.
The order comes in effect on May 10.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 24, 2021, 10:26:32 am
Work is beginning on coastal defences at the Old Colwyn promenade - with the project aimed at protecting the A55 and coastal rail line.

From today 24/5/21 [Monday], work to strengthen the Victorian sea defences and protect the promenade from high tides and rough seas gets underway.

The work means part of the promenade will be closed for up to 18 months while civil engineering and construction firm Griffiths, based in Abergavenny, the main contractor, carries out the project.

The scheme, managed by Conwy County Borough Council, uses locally quarried rock to create rock armour to the height of the promenade, reports Business Live.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/work-protect-a55-rail-line-20659047 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/work-protect-a55-rail-line-20659047)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 25, 2021, 04:08:34 pm
LIVE: A470 shut as air ambulance lands at car and bike crash
The road has been closed at Dolwyddelan

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-air-ambulance-20674855 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-air-ambulance-20674855)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 28, 2021, 05:24:30 pm
Looking at the A55 web cam , one photo in particular...........
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 10, 2021, 04:22:46 pm
LIVE: Overturned van blocks A470 in Llandudno Junction
The incident has taken place near the Black Cat roundabout


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-overturned-van-blocks-a470-20785236 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-overturned-van-blocks-a470-20785236)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 28, 2021, 02:26:04 pm
A55 crash leaves caravan on its side as emergency services rush to scene
The incident is affecting traffic on the eastbound carriageway


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-leaves-caravan-20920167 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-leaves-caravan-20920167)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 30, 2021, 12:43:02 pm
 Another day and another crash in the same area.     It's like a regular occurrence on the A55


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-shuts-lane-20934964 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-crash-shuts-lane-20934964)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 07, 2021, 09:01:43 am
All residential areas in Wales to be made 20mph under new Welsh Government laws
Pavement parking will also be banned


The parking aspect will be highly controversial as many roads in Wales would be impassible if cars could not park partially on the pavement
Just think of all the double yellow lines that they would have to paint to stop the pavement parking        &shake&
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/residential-areas-wales-made-20mph-20986135 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/residential-areas-wales-made-20mph-20986135)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 13, 2021, 09:53:32 am
TRAFFIC lights could be installed on the A470 from Glan Conwy to Bewts-y-Coed amid concerns over motorists’ safety.

Welsh Government deputy minister for climate change, Lee Waters confirmed a review will be carried out along the trunk road to consider potential traffic control measures such as signage and road markings.

It follows calls from Aberconwy MS Janet Finch-Saunders for the government and local authority to “tackle the chaos” at a number of locations including Pont Fawr in Llanrwst, the junction in Tal y Cafn, Bodnant hill, and Rhyd y Creuau.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19438177.welsh-government-consider-traffic-control-measures-a470/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19438177.welsh-government-consider-traffic-control-measures-a470/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 14, 2021, 05:45:19 pm
All residential areas in Wales to be made 20mph under new Welsh Government laws
Pavement parking will also be banned


The parking aspect will be highly controversial as many roads in Wales would be impassible if cars could not park partially on the pavement
Just think of all the double yellow lines that they would have to paint to stop the pavement parking        &shake&
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/residential-areas-wales-made-20mph-20986135 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/residential-areas-wales-made-20mph-20986135)

There's a fortune to be made here if you buy shares in road sign makers and yellow paint manufacturers!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 14, 2021, 06:08:45 pm
If they make Llandudno Junction 20mph can they please remove the speed bumps as they will no longer be required.

They are also inconsistent in their sizing and some do not meet the specification - much damage caused to car suspension and tracking even at  low speed.

Who dreams up these suggestions - perhaps we should all employ someone with a red flag to walk in front of cars.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 15, 2021, 03:47:48 pm
The problem with speed limits is that people break them. I guess if you set it at 20mph in residential areas  there's more chance drivers will stick under 30 rather than at present under 40mph. Over 30 and the chances are more likely that if a car hits someone, they die, almost certainly more so if over 40. Speed bumps are at least effective in keeping the speed down, irritating though they are at times.
The most effective solution is all cars fitted with a black box which can automatically record, send details and issue a fine to the owner of the vehicle. Yes, I'm sure it would get a positive response from every driver  $bounce$....well maybe not. The real answer is probably in technology that can read road conditions, evaluate traffic of both cars and pedestrians, limit speed and take the necessary action to eliminate the possibility of collisions. It can't be that far away from happening.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 16, 2021, 06:46:36 pm
If they make Llandudno Junction 20mph can they please remove the speed bumps as they will no longer be required.
Who dreams up these suggestions - perhaps we should all employ someone with a red flag to walk in front of cars.

We thought that they had started the 20 mph rule on Wednesday when we drove down the A470 to Betws Y Coed.   At Glan Conwy we were two cars behind a driver who must have been driving in 3rd gear and the traffic coming the other way was so heavy that any overtaking was impossible.   At the end of the straight section past Maenan Abbey the traffic had backed up behind us for over a mile and this continued through Llanrwst  but the speed slowed down even more when a large tractor pulled out in front of the leading car.
We just had to be patient but the slow car turned over the Waterloo Bridge into Betws and we followed it just to the Church and then we turned off, thank goodness
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 27, 2021, 10:25:35 pm
A55 flooding 'possible' as Anglesey community bears the brunt of heavy rain
The Met Office has an amber warning of thunderstorms in place for much of Wales until Wednesday morning.    We have been lucky in Colwyn Bay today as we only had a light shower of rain and that didn't last that long either

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-flooding-possible-thunderstorms-set-21160755 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-flooding-possible-thunderstorms-set-21160755)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 30, 2021, 03:49:28 pm
Can anyone tell where this 4x4 is heading?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 30, 2021, 04:32:07 pm
Assuming a trick question, I think he will cut you off, and go to the Junction.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 30, 2021, 06:31:40 pm
Quite correct Steve!  Nearly took the front corner off my car.

No indication whatsoever, but when I blasted my horn he did put his 4-way flashers on for a couple of flashes!

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 31, 2021, 09:44:34 am
I suppose he did accept he was at fault with his signal flash, but most of the time they blame you, and give rude hand gestures.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 31, 2021, 09:53:55 am
No excuse Steve!  I see a lot of "wrong lanes" since they revised the layout, but that was the worst one, he crossed two lanes - if I hadn't braked sharply he would have had my front wing off.  I do have the full video but don't think I can load it on here as the file is too big (43Mb)!

The layout that most get wrong is if you are going southwards on the A470 - markings show right hand lane when going under the A55 but many are in the left-hand lane (for Mochdre) then switch to right-hand lane on the short approach to the Black Cat roundabout.  You certainly have to be fully aware of everyone else!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 31, 2021, 11:06:34 am
Putting the lane markings on was a mistake. If you're new to the area, you find yourself competing with the motorists who know the roundabout well, and don't leave you time to think, I suspect.

There's an even worse one near Warwick Uni, when you try to re-enter the M40. Horrendous only starts to describe it.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2021, 03:10:05 pm
LIVE: A55 closed westbound with traffic at a standstill as police called to crash
The incident has happened westbound between J23 Llanddulas and J22 Old Colwy
n

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-standstill-westbound-police-21198489 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-standstill-westbound-police-21198489)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 10, 2021, 02:38:23 pm
Thought our road was busy, just been told, council painting single yellow line on Gloddaeth Ave, to stop camper vans parking, and it is thought reduced parking times, but will have to wait for new signage, also mentioned was that signs regarding no overnight camper van signs have been removed, from Westshore ?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2021, 02:53:15 pm
There were signs in our road Steve, but they were taken away and never replaced. Only last week there was a camper van straight opposite us for at least 2 nights. No problem with them and nothing to stop them, but I always wonder about their waste water which dribbles out and where they empty the loo. We have had all kinds left in the gutters in the past !
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 10, 2021, 04:45:43 pm
Nem, Apparently complaints about emptying waste etc in the gutters and drains is the reason for the new yellow lines, however it has been

pointed out that you could find a lot of vans parked up, using their blue mobility badges, putting the vans aside, the car parking around the side streets in our area is going to get hectic and dangerous, today looked like the Extravaganza was on.   $angry$

FB photo
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 10, 2021, 06:15:48 pm
Yes, it has been like that at this end. Standing at the front the same cars are to be seen going round and round searching for a space.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 12, 2021, 10:15:41 am
Motorhomes have been taking over a seaside street in Llandudno - and people are not happy
Conwy Council have now taken action after seeing an increase in caravans and motorhomes stopping overnight at various seaside parking zones since the ned of lockdown


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorhomes-been-taking-over-seaside-21288902 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorhomes-been-taking-over-seaside-21288902)

Apparently nobody is parking on the yellow line, some info from the above piece might help, and take some pressure off the side streets.

 "We want to reassure you that these restrictions apply to caravans and motorhomes only, and will not prohibit other vehicles parking."

It means within the zones marked by single yellow lines motorhomes and caravans will not be able to park between 11pm and 8am, stopping visitors making an impromtu pitch at the side of the roads.

It is one of a number of parking measures restrictions being imposed, along with double yellow lines around junctions with the north-western side of Gloddaeth Avenue at Great Ormes Road, Carroll Place, Salisbury Court and Salisbury Road.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 13, 2021, 05:20:00 pm
A55 updates as road shut and traffic queuing for four miles after crash
The westbound lane of the carriageway between Old Colwyn and Llanddulas is closed while emergency services work at the scene


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-crash-colwyn-llanddulas-traffic-21303078 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-crash-colwyn-llanddulas-traffic-21303078)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2021, 11:54:53 am
After spending a small fortune making improvements to the Black Cat roundabout am I the only one to fail to see any significant benefits . Markings on the road add extra confusion for those who are visiting the area and cars are still cutting across lanes for those wanting to head south up the A470 towards Glan Conwy.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 14, 2021, 12:08:58 pm
You are definitely not the only one, lots of complaints on this thread, DVT even has video proof, see previous page post No. 1309 30/7/21
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 14, 2021, 12:10:42 pm
It's far more confusing than it was. Once schools are running normally again, it will reduce the 0830 queues through GC.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 14, 2021, 01:53:04 pm
As a regular user going from Llandudno Junction to Glan Conwy it happens almost every time that a car in the nearside lane into the Black Cat roundabout will swerve across to go to Glan Conwy.

The incident that I posted on here was the opposite direction and that was the worst I have seen.

The signage written on the road surface is of little use as it is simply too much to take in for anyone uncertain which way to go - there should perhaps be overhead signage but I suspect that would really clutter the place too much.

I don't know if there have been any bumps, but driivng through there you really need to have 360° vision!.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SAJ on August 14, 2021, 06:01:13 pm
Completely agree. I have relatives on both sides of the river and that roundabout is not easy to negotiate. If anything, there’s too much information on the road itself. For anyone not familiar with the layout, it might be simpler just to have destination rather than all the road numbering. I have taken to doing my return journey via Gyffin, over the bridge and lovely view of the castle!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 15, 2021, 09:55:38 am
Update on the Motorhome subject..........  ref DP

Motorhome users dry laundry near Llandudno paddling pool in wake of overnight street parking ban
A local resident has taken a picture of washing drying on North Shore seafront railings, where some campervans have set up base, after restrictions imposed on Gloddaeth Avenue
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 17, 2021, 03:21:27 pm
LIVE: A548 shut in both directions following crash
The road is shut between Llanfair Talhaiarn and Betws-yn-
Rhos

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a548-shut-both-directions-21332940 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a548-shut-both-directions-21332940)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 18, 2021, 09:43:03 am
CALLS are being made for a 20mph speed limit to stop cars from “roaring” along a “dangerous” road in Llandudno.

Politicians have called for a number of safety measures on Queen’s Road in Craig-y-Don, which has been the location of a number of incidents including a child being hit by a car, a cyclist being knocked off their bicycle and a dog being killed.

The road is deemed to be a hazard to pedestrians as too many drivers fail to follow the 30mph limit, while parking problems restrict the visibility of motorists.

In July, Conwy County Borough Council carried out a consultation over plans to improve safety on the road, which include a pedestrian island refuge, increased lane width and tactile dropped crossing points.

Speed-activated signs have been put in place by the council but are failing to reduce speeding, residents say.

Resident Dudley Hare, 79, who lives at the lower end of the road, said he does not believe cars would follow a 20mph limit.

“The speed awareness signs have been as helpful as a chocolate teacup,” he said. “People just ignore the speed limits as they know they won’t get caught, and we can hear cars roaring by as they go onto the nice straight road.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19519264.politicians-call-20mph-speed-limit-following-crashes-craig-y-don/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19519264.politicians-call-20mph-speed-limit-following-crashes-craig-y-don/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on August 18, 2021, 11:05:12 am
It's a self contradictory article: they want a 20mph limit yet the article states "The road is deemed to be a hazard to pedestrians as too many drivers fail to follow the 30mph limit".  Presumably, then, they'd also fail to follow a 20mph limit.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 18, 2021, 11:14:44 am
Perhaps a few speed bumps along the way may help or even a visit by the Arrive Alive camera van.     I did read something on the Welsh news that a 20 mph restriction may go on all residential roads in Wales, but that's only effective if the powers that be enforce it
Good to hear the comment from Dudley Hare, the last time I saw Dudley was when we were playing for the Llandudno YC and that must be nearly 60 years ago
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on August 18, 2021, 01:14:35 pm
Better to have people drive at 30mph in a 20mph zone than 40mph as they do now. Some are even faster.
I agree , the speed awareness signs are useless as no one notices them.
The Arrive Alive van has in the past been stationed just before the roundabout but the danger area is also well before there too and that's out of view to the camera.
Title: Re: Roads in the area CYCLE TOUR ROAD CLOSURES
Post by: SteveH on August 21, 2021, 11:08:44 am
Road closures for your diary ........
Title: Re: Roads in the area............ Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2021, 02:02:30 pm
Would a 20mph limit improve Llandudno? - Councillors and readers give their views

PROPOSALS for a 20mph speed limit that could reduce emissions and improve road safety in Llandudno have raised support and concerns from councillors.

The Welsh Government is currently piloting a 20mph speed limit to replace 30mph as the default for built-up residential areas and busy pedestrian streets, which forms part of its legislative priorities this year.

Wales would be the first UK nation to standardise the speed limit, which the Welsh Government said would reduce the number of crashes and carbon emissions - but what would it look like in Llandudno?

Craig-y-Don town councillor Frank Bradfield said he believes the limit would be beneficial on all residential streets in the town, particularly along the promenade, following concerns over speed and parked cars reducing visibility.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19533669.20mph-limit-improve-llandudno---councillors-readers-give-views/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19533669.20mph-limit-improve-llandudno---councillors-readers-give-views/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 24, 2021, 02:35:25 pm
Some people won't be happy until we go back to the times of having someone walk in front of you carrying a red flag.  I do wonder just how much driving the ones who are all for the restrictions actually do.

Whatever happened to the green cross code, and wasn't there a squirrel advising children about crossing the road?  Pedestrians should also take a responsibility when crossing roads.

99% of drivers do so sensibly - will drive according to conditions.  Hit the 1% who will not take much notice of any new regulations anyway.

Driving slow does not mean less emisisons, as you generally have to be in a lower gear.

No more speed bumps please, already damaging suspensions and tyres, and make for an uncomfortable ride.

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on August 24, 2021, 03:51:34 pm
Was the squirrel called Tufty?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 24, 2021, 03:58:37 pm
Was the squirrel called Tufty?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 27, 2021, 09:56:56 am
A tourism leader has called on councils and businesses to follow the lead set by Portmeirion in building a dedicated parking facility for motorhomes.

Work is underway at the Gwynedd tourism attraction to create a site for 23 campervans.

It comes amid a backlash from coastal communities and tourist towns where illicit parking by motorhomes has become a feature of the staycation summer.

Jim Jones, chief executive of North Wales Tourism, said local authorities had to “move with the times” and meet rapidly rising demand for managed motorhome facilities.

“There has been a huge increase in people buying motorhomes in the past 12 months and, if they can’t find anywhere to park properly, some will end up in places that cause a nuisance,” he said.

“For local authorities there is an opportunity to use existing infrastructure for overnight parking while generating revenue.

“The private sector also has a part to play and I’m delighted to see that Portmeirion is leading the way.”

cont   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/portmeirion-creates-large-campervan-site-21412151?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/portmeirion-creates-large-campervan-site-21412151?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 29, 2021, 02:19:22 pm
LIVE: Person hit by vehicle in Abergele as police warn of 'major delays'
Motorists have been urged to avoid the area


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-person-hit-vehicle-abergele-21431455 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-person-hit-vehicle-abergele-21431455)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 30, 2021, 05:29:47 pm
More delays on the A55 this morning due to a crash and the Bank Holiday is not over yet!


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/know-a55-crash-caused-hours-21436538 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/know-a55-crash-caused-hours-21436538)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 02, 2021, 01:41:29 pm
The shadow A55 toll that must be paid every year and is costing taxpayers millions
The charge is paid by the Welsh Government for every vehicle that travels across a stretch of the dual carriageway but the amount paid out this year has dipped dramatically.

Building work began in 1998 was completed in March 2001 under a controversial Private Finance Initiative (PFI) which sees the Welsh Government paying a “shadow toll” to UK Highways A55 Ltd for every vehicle using the dual carriageway. The 30-year contract, arranged by the UK Labour before devolution in 1999, for the maintenance and operation of the road runs until December 2028.

UK Highways A55 Ltd also operates and maintains the road along with a further six mile section of existing trunk road between Llanfairpwll and Bangor.

In its latest accounts filed last month the Kent-based company reports its profit after tax for the year was £808,000. In the previous year the profit after tax was £4.152 million.

In 2021 the Welsh Government paid shadow tolls of £14.9 million to UK Highways. The previous year the sum of £16.83 million was paid.

The company's annual report states traffic levels began to drop in mid-March 2020.

cont plus 17 comments    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shadow-a55-toll-must-paid-21460343#comments-wrapper (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/shadow-a55-toll-must-paid-21460343#comments-wrapper)

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 03, 2021, 03:45:30 pm
A lot of money has been spent recently on major changes to the roundabout at Junction 19 of the A55 and A470.  Much of the work involved creating a (safe) cycle route to avoid any possible accidents at the tricky junctions.

I regularly use the junction and often see casual cyclists using the new path that takes them away from the traffic.

Why then do the "lycra louts" still insist on using the areas that should be for motor traffic?

Who would be blamed if one of these guys got knocked off his bike?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 07, 2021, 06:56:37 pm
Be interesting to see what they come up with, but it certainly does need sorting out !

https://conwy.nub.news/n/llandudno-junction-safety-work-to-be-carried-out-at-glan-conwy-roundabout?fbclid=IwAR0ddJPFjaq8orf9A10pYuKsB4USsLef-Zw3HYY6k2YDAL4k55qWue5PpHc

Perhaps a fence between the two lanes from the big roundabout to the Black Cat small roundabout !
Title: Re: Roads in the area Blackcat
Post by: SteveH on September 10, 2021, 02:39:00 pm
FURTHER changes are being made to the Black Cat roundabout.

The alterations will be made to help prevent vehicles from using the wrong lane when they wish to travel Southbound towards Glan Conwy via the A470. They will also help prevent "driver confusion" and improve road safety.

The work will be conducted during the Winter.

Lee Waters, Wales' deputy minister for Climate Change, in response stating: "As part of the post-construction scheme evaluation we have reviewed the signing and road markings at this location, and we have also undertaken a CCTV survey to establish driver behaviour issues.

"We have a package of measures that will address the issues raised, including amending some of the markings and sign positions on the roundabout.

"This will be carried out shortly on site.”

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19572417.work-take-place-winter-black-cat-roundabout-resolve-exit-issues/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19572417.work-take-place-winter-black-cat-roundabout-resolve-exit-issues/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 11, 2021, 08:47:30 pm
Well, nice to know I'm not alone in my confusion.
It's no longer just the A470 heading south( who thinks of it that way anyway?) but if you are going towards Bangor from Llandudno you can easily end up in the middle of three lanes when you should be in the left hand one BUTthere are actually 2 lanes for the A55 westwards on the slip road so the middle shouldn't really be a disaster if those on the inside lane are aware that those in the middle lane are heading in the same direction and not assuming they are the only ones. Confused by my description...of course you are , just like the motorists attempting it!!!
All in all I think a small fortune has been spent to create pedestrian/cyclist crossing point .....but no-one walks there anyway!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 11, 2021, 09:54:29 pm
Hope they come up with a way to ensure cyclists use the correct route ... last week I was very close to knocking one off his bike because he crossed from being in the wrong lane into the one I was correctly in .. both of us going for the A470 southwards  ... it would have been his fault for (a) not being on the cycle path, (b) in the wrong lane and (c) crossing into the side of me ... but I can guess who would have beeb prosecuted if we had hit.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on September 12, 2021, 10:44:11 am
It's no longer just the A470 heading south( who thinks of it that way anyway?)

I suspect a lot do.  With a background in flying and mountain walking I still think in terms of compass directions. Can be very useful.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 12, 2021, 12:17:09 pm
It's no longer just the A470 heading south( who thinks of it that way anyway?)

I suspect a lot do.  With a background in flying and mountain walking I still think in terms of compass directions. Can be very useful.

We'll disagree on that one Ian. Anyway the lettering on the road just adds confusion to those with no knowledge of the Welsh language.
Title: Re: Roads in the area...Stop Press A470
Post by: SteveH on September 21, 2021, 02:26:39 pm
14:09DAVID POWELL
Road blocked
The traffic website Inrix is saying that the A470 Llanrwst Road is blocked in both directions, with queueing traffic due to an accident from Bodnant Road to Top Llan Road.

The road is shut between Pentrefelin and Tal-y-cafn

live updates https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-both-directions-21631229 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-both-directions-21631229)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 21, 2021, 04:05:18 pm
I have just driven back from Llangernyw via Eglwysbach.  On the steep hairpin bend down Pennant Hill into Eglwysbach met a long artic carrying heavy plant - stuck as he tried to get round the bend - an impossibility.  He did manage to reverse then drive forward into the farm track so I, and the postman behind me, could get past, and the oncoming queue could also get past.  I advised him to walk to the farm and see if he could turn round there, then he would be the right way to take the road up from the hairpin.  I didn't wait to see if that suggestion worked!

I followed the postman down the hill to find a coach turning round in the next entrance, just managed it but took some of the banking out.  That, in turn, meant that the three cars coming up all had to reverse some distance down hill.

Seems people were going that way, having left the A470 at Tal-y-Cafn due to the blockage mentioned above (which I was aware of as it had been on the radio), and then the road from Graig to Bodnant was closed for some reason.

Aren't sat navs wonderful ?

Incidentally, I used to be in a pop group called the Broken Sat Navs ... we didn't get anywhere !!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 22, 2021, 03:30:32 pm
That reminds me of the time when there was a blockage on the A55 between Aber and Tal Y Bont.    Traffic was not moving at all and one lorry driver who was fed up of it all used his Sat Nav in order to avoid the delay.
Anyway the Sat Nav took him down Yr Hen Ffordd and if anyone has had the misfortune to go down that single track lane they will know about the problems there.
He inevitably got stuck in the lane and it took the recovery vehicle seven hours to release him, so much for Sat Navs and being impatient.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 29, 2021, 02:08:57 pm
farmer Rhodri Lloyd-Williams posted the tongue-in-cheek picture...Who needs petrol ? ?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 18, 2021, 11:50:01 am
Reduced speed limits and more cameras on the A55 to help with roadworks
More speed limits have been introduced on a stretch of the A55 as work continues on the road.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reduced-speed-limits-more-cameras-21884525 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/reduced-speed-limits-more-cameras-21884525)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 19, 2021, 06:37:40 pm
Sadly it appears someone died this afternoon as a result of an accident involving two cars on the A470 near Bodysgallen hall.
It might not save me but I am pleased I have invested in a dash camera for many reasons.
Title: Re: Roads in the area......A55
Post by: SteveH on October 21, 2021, 01:43:10 pm
A large stretch of the westbound A55 is to be closed for six nights to carry out carriageway repairs,

The work will affect the westbound carriageway between junction 27 at St Asaph and junction 24 at Abergele.

It will be carried out in two phases, the first being on Wednesday and Thursday, October 27-28.

Westbound lanes will be closed for a further four nights from Monday to Thursday, November 1-4.

The closures will remain in place from 8pm to 6am between the junction 27 offslip and junction 24 onslip roads.

Traffic will be diverted at junction 27 at St Asaph along the A525 towards Rhuddlan, then along the A547 towards Abergele, before returning onto the westbound A55 carriageway at junction 24 at Abergele.

Vehicles over three metres will be prohibited from travelling along the diversion route.

Traffic Wales said the closures are needed to complete “essential CAT 1 surface repairs”.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/seven-mile-long-stretch-a55-21923051 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/seven-mile-long-stretch-a55-21923051)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on October 21, 2021, 05:09:43 pm
Quote
Vehicles over three metres will be prohibited from travelling along the diversion route.

But most cars are longer than 3m...
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 21, 2021, 08:58:55 pm
My car being 4.5 metres long (Honda Civic) I googled out of curiosity and found this ...

What is the shortest car in the UK?
Smallest cars on sale in the UK 2021

    Renault Twizy (2,319mm)
    Smart ForTwo (2,695mm) ...
    Toyota Aygo (3,465mm) ...
    Citroen C1 (3,466mm) ...
    Peugeot 108 (3,475mm) ...
    Smart ForFour (3,495mm) ...
    Fiat 500 (3,571mm) ...
    Kia Picanto (3,595mm) ...

I think they mean 3 metres WIDE (my Civic is just on 2 metres) otherwise you won't be able to use the diversion unless you're driving a short  SMART or a Twizy !
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 23, 2021, 10:36:32 am
Just after 8.00 am this morning I was driving down the unadopted part of Pen Y Bryn Road Colwyn Bay and stopped at the T junction at the top of the hill.     Traffic coming up King's Drive has the right of way anyway but it is always safer to stop and look out for traffic coming from both directions.      No vehicles were coming so I was prepared to go down the hill when out of the darkness a young guy appeared on an electric scooter and he went down the hill. 
The road is surrounded by tall trees and has numerous bends in it and it is always dark driving along it.    The scooter had no lights on it and the guy wore dark clothes with no helmet either.
I had to follow him down the hill until it was safe to overtake but he was doing over 20 mph on the scooter.     Further down the hill I could see a car coming down the hill at a fast speed with its headlights full on and thought that this situation was an accident waiting to happen.
I'm not sure whether it is legal to drive those electric scooters on the main roads in the UK but it's another obstacle to watch out for in future
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 23, 2021, 10:44:12 am
To my knowledge it is illegal, also some unscrupulous sellers are telling buyers they are legal, which is not helping, pity cause I fancied one myself ! 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 24, 2021, 01:40:59 pm
I read it's illegal to use one on a public highway without insurance and no insurance companies are offering cover unless it's to a scooter rental company. I imagine as such they can, if caught, be impounded by the police and scrapped, just like they can cars that are uninsured too.
They certainly shouldn't be used on pavements either!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2021, 03:38:09 pm
Dave,  I think that it is illegal anyway to drive an electric scooter on a public road, with or without insurance.      If you are familiar with King's Drive in Colwyn Bay you'll know how dangerous it can be just driving in a car.
Wearing dark clothes, no helmet or lights and going downhill at over 20 mph is a recipe for disaster.    I was very aware of the guy but I'm not sure about the car about 100 yards  behind me because he was driving like a bat out of hell.

It does scare you and I was very aware of the scooter rider when I came down the hill this morning but others may not have experienced what I did yesterday
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on October 25, 2021, 09:21:42 am
I decided to investigate further Hugo!
They are without a doubt a menace when in the wrong hands and ridden irresponsibly.
https://www.nationalworld.com/news/transport/are-e-scooters-legal-the-uk-laws-on-when-and-where-you-can-ride-them-and-are-they-safe-3316708 (https://www.nationalworld.com/news/transport/are-e-scooters-legal-the-uk-laws-on-when-and-where-you-can-ride-them-and-are-they-safe-3316708)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 25, 2021, 10:53:13 am
Thanks for posting that Dave as it was interesting to read but also disturbing to think that this type of transport is increasing.     Coming down King's Drive is quite daunting at the best of times.      There are blind left hand bends with no pavement on that side and the standard of driving isn't the best, especially during peak times and school runs
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 01, 2021, 12:36:39 pm
8 cars seized at Tesco and North Wales resort beach by police in anti-social driving crackdown
Another 12 were slapped with notices and orders, as officers took action over the weekend
Well done NWP          $good$

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/8-cars-seized-tesco-north-22027208 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/8-cars-seized-tesco-north-22027208)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 02, 2021, 12:19:41 pm
A55 motorists face months of disruption after Britannia Bridge falls prey to falcons
Single-lane traffic and short overnight closures are planned this week, with more works in the pipeline

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-motorists-face-months-disruption-22037137 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-motorists-face-months-disruption-22037137)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 10, 2021, 01:45:47 pm
MOTORISTS are being urged to "plan ahead" as month-long demolition work gets underway near Betws-y-Coed.

Traffic Wales said the work is being carried out on the A5 as part of plans to maintain the busy road in the run up to Christmas.

A traffic light system has been put in place from November 8 until December 17.

Traffic Wales tweeted: "Delays possible, please plan ahead."
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 14, 2021, 03:00:07 pm
Parking clampdown at Covid lockdown visitor hotspot Moel Famau.       I remember last year when the Police blocked off the road one twit from over the border drove past the road block and got his car stuck in the snow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59253269[/url



 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59253269)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 14, 2021, 03:17:58 pm
This is just one of the incidents that happened during lockdown


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-covidiot-driver-serious-situation-19583997 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-covidiot-driver-serious-situation-19583997)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 17, 2021, 12:58:43 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on November 17, 2021, 05:04:29 pm
The A470 going south out of Llandudno is now 40mph ... sign has gone up today but I'm not sure how far that limit extends.  So ... wide clear bit of road is 40, then the twisty narrow road up Bodnant hill is 60 ... !
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on November 17, 2021, 08:24:47 pm
The A470 going south out of Llandudno is now 40mph ... sign has gone up today but I'm not sure how far that limit extends.  So ... wide clear bit of road is 40, then the twisty narrow road up Bodnant hill is 60 ... !
Oops, not Llandudno ... it's Glan Conwy.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 18, 2021, 09:29:31 am
A55 drivers warned to 'expect delays' during 15-day part closure of Conwy Tunnel
The tunnels will be shut completely on alternate weeks with contraflow traffic arrangements in the opposite bores

A55 motorists face 15 days of disruption from this weekend while alternate bores of the Conwy Tunnel are closed for safety upgrades.

Drivers on the North Wales Expressway are being warned to “expect delays” – and are being asked to avoid using alternative routes in case they create snarl-ups on local roads.

The work will start at 7pm on Sunday, November 21, and continue to 7am on Monday, December 6.

First, the westbound tunnel will be closed, then the eastbound bore, between junctions 17 and 18.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-drivers-warned-expect-delays-22195830?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-drivers-warned-expect-delays-22195830?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 19, 2021, 03:29:06 pm
Two Porsche drivers banned from the roads for hitting more than 100mph on Evo Triangle
David Murray of Aberdeen and Timur Khayrov who are from 'professional backgrounds' will be sentenced by a crown court judge but have been hit with interim disqualifications


https://ct.moreover.com/?a=46362312946&p=14e&v=1&x=bk0R7t0eNkfxoITeLTAMtw&u1=ND&u2=up-urn:user:PA187552270
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on November 19, 2021, 05:38:11 pm
It's not that remote a road... Brenig is a very popular spot and the car park often very busy. They spent a lot of money putting in cameras to stop these idiots but I'm not sure if they actually work.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 23, 2021, 09:36:26 am
LIVE: Crash and breakdown spark major delays on two parts of the A55
Traffic Wales warned drivers to expect long delays

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-breakdown-spark-major-22245039 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-breakdown-spark-major-22245039)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 29, 2021, 09:37:06 am
Upgrades to 'overstressed' A55 key to levelling up North Wales with rest of Britain says UK Government
Westminster review highlights need for better cross-border transport amid claims devolution has been a stumbling block

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/upgrades-overstressed-a55-key-levelling-22289262 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/upgrades-overstressed-a55-key-levelling-22289262)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 04, 2021, 04:58:36 pm
LIVE: Multi-vehicle A55 crash amid warning of ice and hail on road
The collision is on the eastbound carriageway at the top of Rhuallt Hill

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-multi-vehicle-a55-crash-22366390 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-multi-vehicle-a55-crash-22366390)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 07, 2021, 09:31:22 am
Three taken to hospital after two car crash leaves vehicle on its side
The crash happened in Rhos on Sea

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/three-taken-hospital-after-two-22381388 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/three-taken-hospital-after-two-22381388)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on December 18, 2021, 11:57:49 am
You could expect some "hairy motoring" driving along the A55 near Aber ... sorry, not a clear pic due to cropping from larger dash cam pic, it was raining and angle of the sign.

... "Wig Crossing" !!!

For those who wonder, Wig (I guess pronounced Weeg) is the name of the farm alongside the road!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Nemesis on December 18, 2021, 12:34:10 pm
Having been up and down that stretch of road a lot recently, has anyone else noticed the volume of yellow signs on the access roads onto the A55? There is a forest of them!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 21, 2021, 09:47:26 am
SPEEDING HGV’s were targeted over a weekend.

Following recent public concern regarding speeding HGV’s travelling through the current roadworks on the A55 at Tal y Bont near Bangor, officers from the Roads Policing Unit carried out an operation over the weekend.

A total of 13 drivers in foreign-registered vehicles were stopped and issued with Graduated Fixed Penalty Notices – meaning they had to pay ‘on the spot’ fines.

Graduated Fixed Penalty Notices:
Non UK drivers who commit offences in the UK are required to pay an immediate financial penalty deposit (‘deposit’), either equal to the fixed penalty amount, or a set figure of £300 per offence as a court financial deposit (‘court deposit’), if the offence is of a nature that it cannot be dealt with by way of a fixed penalty.

Failure to pay a deposit will result in the vehicle being immobilised and recovered until payment is made. In such cases, significant additional charges including: an immobilisation release fee of £80; up to £350 recovery charge; and up to £35 per day storage charge, will apply. All charges must be paid in full before the vehicle can be released.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19798351.13-drivers-foreign-registered-vehicles-caught-speeding-a55/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19798351.13-drivers-foreign-registered-vehicles-caught-speeding-a55/?ref=rss&IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Roads in the area,.....crash Col.Bay
Post by: SteveH on December 27, 2021, 09:52:55 am
Live updates: Police at scene of high-speed crash in Colwyn Bay
Witnesses said a car crashed into a shop

fficers are at the scene of a high-speed crash in Colwyn Bay, which took place in the early hours of Monday (December 27)

The incident occurred at around 3am on Abergele Road in the town. The road has been closed for recovery work to take place.

Images from the scene of the crash showed police, fire crews and recovery services attending.

A car sits badly damaged at the side of the road, with shops also damaged and debris littering the road.

A witnesses from the scene suggested a vehicle had travelled down the road at speed and collided with the front end of a shop.

There were no immediate reports of injuries.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-updates-police-scene-high-22579213?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-updates-police-scene-high-22579213?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 27, 2021, 02:41:16 pm
Update on above 

A 23-year-old man has been arrested following a car crash which caused "significant damage" to a row of shops.

Police confirmed that a BMW had smashed into three shops on Abergele Road in Colwyn Bay.

The incident is believed to have happened at around 3am this morning (Monday, December 27).

Officers from North Wales Police closed the road in both directions while an investigation was launched, the car was recovered and debris was removed from the street.

By 5.35am the vehicle had been recovered, but the road remained closed for clean up. It reopened before 9am.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on December 27, 2021, 04:09:54 pm
That's outrageous behaviour and there should be a jail sentence to follow.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 05, 2022, 11:27:36 am
Three-vehicle crash shuts A55 lane amid reports of cars in ditch
There are reports of traffic disruption as a result of the crash.   That area of high ground on the A55 can be bad in the Winter but I don't know what caused this accident

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/live-three-vehicle-crash-shuts-22647649 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/live-three-vehicle-crash-shuts-22647649)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 10, 2022, 09:46:10 am
A55 motorists will face 18 days of disruption later this month when partial closures are put in place to enable bridge upgrades.

Old expansion joints on bridge decks at the Goat Inn Viaduct, Conwy, need replacing after nearing the end of their lifespans.
These joints allow the bridge to accommodate movement from seismic activity and seasonal temperature fluctuations.
As they are attached to the ends of the bridge deck, they can only be removed via targeted demolition.

The bridge must then be partially rebuilt to install the replacements.
Each side of the carriageway must be closed whilst the old joints are removed and new ones installed.

The renewal work, between junctions 15 and 16, will be carried out between 6am on January 20 and 6am on February 7.

Temporary signs will warn drivers to stay on the A55 and to “expect queues and delays”.
A contraflow system will be set up to allow contractors to replace the expansion joints, each of which span the full width of the carriageway.

The closures will also be used to carry out Pen Y Clip tunnel and headland maintenance works.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-motorists-warned-expect-significant-22674063?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-motorists-warned-expect-significant-22674063?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Roads in the area..A470 closed
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2022, 09:40:21 am
A crash has shut the A470 in Conwy.

Llanrwst Road is currently closed in both directions from Maenan to Llanrwst.

Emergency services are responding to the incident.

Traffic systems say one vehicle is involved from B5106 (Pont Fawr, Llanrwst) to Tyn y Groes turn off (Tal-y-cafn).

The accident happened just before 7am near the Erw Glas Campsite.

Diversions are in place via the B5106 through Trefriw and Tal Y Cafn.

We will bring you all the latest updates as we get them.         https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-both-directions-22773507?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-both-directions-22773507?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 17, 2022, 12:11:23 pm
Above road reopened.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 20, 2022, 09:03:00 am
What we know so far about A55 crash which has shut Britannia Bridge
Road could be closed into the afternoon as emergency services work at the scene


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-know-far-a55-crash-22810481 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-know-far-a55-crash-22810481)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Bri Roberts on January 20, 2022, 10:51:56 am
Apparently there is a lorry now stuck on the old bridge.  ))*
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 01, 2022, 03:42:40 pm
Residents of the Conwy Valley to make their concerns heard by completing her survey, following a recent road traffic incident along the A470 between Maenan and Tal-y-Cafn.

“Local residents can be assured that, with the survey responses obtained, I will continue to hold the Welsh Government to their promise of a 2022/2023 review so that locals and visitors alike are kept safe.”

Residents can submit their concerns by heading to www.janetfinchsaunders.org.uk/A470 (http://www.janetfinchsaunders.org.uk/A470).

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19890174.aberconwy-ms-encourages-residents-complete-a470-road-safety-survey/ (https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19890174.aberconwy-ms-encourages-residents-complete-a470-road-safety-survey/)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 10, 2022, 02:07:18 pm
Welsh Government has scrapped plans to remove roundabouts on the A55 after a recommendation from the roads review panel - who have suggested a 50mph limit on the stretch.

The Government had plans to change junctions 15 and 16, replacing existing roundabouts at Llanfairfechan and Penmaenmawr with "grade separated" junctions.

It had been set for a public inquiry but last June, Deputy Climate Change Minister Lee Waters announced that all new road-building projects will be stopped while the new panel - made up of climate and transport experts - conducts a wide-ranging review.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roundabouts-removal-project-scrapped-23048269 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roundabouts-removal-project-scrapped-23048269)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 19, 2022, 05:13:17 pm
Caernarfon and Bontnewydd bypass closed within hours of opening after crash

Oh dear!   luckily no one was seriously injured.     


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/caernarfon-bontnewydd-bypass-closed-within-23155722 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/caernarfon-bontnewydd-bypass-closed-within-23155722)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 04, 2022, 10:54:34 am
Work is set to start tomorrow on resurfacing a stretch of the A55 - with lane closures and an overnight detour in place.

The work is taking place on the A55 eastbound carriageway between J16A Dwygyfylchi and J17 Conwy (The Penmaenbach Headland).

This will start tomorrow at 7pm, and finish on March 7 at 7am.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-resurfacing-work-start-lane-23277557?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-resurfacing-work-start-lane-23277557?IYA-mail=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2022, 06:10:18 pm
Police shut road as '6ft deep' sink hole appears near primary school
The hole has appeared on Ernest Street in Rhyl


I remember a similar incident happening in Church Walks in Llandudno in 1957.      A sink hole formed near the Tram station and it turned out to be an old Copper Mine.    It happened just as Mr Gardner from the Fish & Chip Shop nearby was driving over it.   Mr Gardner said that when it started to happen he accelerated and managed to get his car clear before it all caved in.
I remember going to look at the hole and the vertical mine shaft was covered by a brick and stone igloo shaped structure and it was deep because I tossed some small stones in it and they took a few seconds to hit the water at the bottom of the mine

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-shut-road-6ft-23293255 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-shut-road-6ft-23293255)
Title: Re: Roads in the area.............delays A55
Post by: SteveH on March 09, 2022, 08:56:22 am
Travel time over 20 minuets
Traffic monitoring system Inrix is reporting travel time is now 20 to 25 minutes.

"One lane blocked and queueing traffic due to accident on A55 North Wales Expressway Westbound from J23A A548 Dundonald Avenue (Pensarn / Abergele) to J23 A547 Abergele Road (Llanddulas). Congestion to J24 (Abergele). Travel time is around 20 to 25 minutes."
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 27, 2022, 01:28:07 pm
Snowdonia parking warning after dozens of vehicles cause delays along A5
People have been urged to park sensibly as day trippers head to the region to enjoy the spring sunshine.      If the council is on the ball then the towtrucks should have a profitable time this week



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-parking-warning-after-dozens-23513763 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-parking-warning-after-dozens-23513763)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 16, 2022, 11:56:00 pm
Police tow cars away from Snowdonia after warning to drivers was ignored
The police gave bad drivers a chance to fix their mistakes before taking action        $good$

When will they ever learn?                 

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-tow-cars-away-snowdonia-23709337 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-tow-cars-away-snowdonia-23709337)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 18, 2022, 05:04:25 pm
Another goos reason to avoid the A55 on a Bank Holiday especially
Tanker and two vehicles collide on A55 as great Easter North Wales getaway causes huge delays
There have been at least four crashes on the expressway and accidents on other main roads cause long queues as holidaymakers head home

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tanker-two-vehicles-collide-a55-23716665 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tanker-two-vehicles-collide-a55-23716665)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 29, 2022, 09:05:38 am
CONWY COUNTY Borough Council have announced changes to the refurbishment work on the Llandudno Junction Flyover, starting in early May.

The announcement comes after the Council had considered revising the project in order to prevent a build up of traffic from the A55, which has now been given approval.

They had suggested the Ffordd 6g suggested as a one-way route to allow access into Conwy, Llandudno Junction and Deganwy and off on to the A55 Junction 18 from all directions.

Previously, the work to replace the waterproofing and expansion joints on the bridge was planned in two phases for 2022 and 2023.

The refurbishment works and their timing had proven unpopular with residents, with many questioning why such a large project would be undertaken in the summer.

This year’s work has now been divided into two periods, to avoid disruption in July and to allow traffic to continue to use the flyover into Conwy.

This will also assist scheduled bus routes to continue in Conwy.

The work will take longer overall, but the first period of work will finish before the end of June, with the second period starting in September.

When the work begins on Monday, 9 May, one lane of Conwy Bridge will remain open, with three-way traffic lights on the Weekly News roundabout to manage vehicles.

Traffic between Weekly News roundabout and Tesco roundabout (Ffordd 6G) will be one-way only.

Ffordd 6G will have the same vehicle restrictions as the A55, while drivers heading from Tesco towards Llandudno will need to follow the diversion via the A55 to Black Cat roundabout (J19).

This first period of work will finish by Thursday, 23 June 2022.

The second period of work will begin on Monday, 5 September, with traffic management in place until Saturday, 15 October 2022.
ref pioneeer
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 10, 2022, 12:22:44 pm
Why giant crane has appeared next to the A55                    ref DP
The huge crane towers over the expressway at Colwyn Bay as next stage of promenade works get underway
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 19, 2022, 12:29:54 pm
North Wales promenade road will close on Monday but debate still rages over proposed one-way system
The work on Rhos-on-Sea’s West Promenade will see sand imported and a new rock groyne built



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-promenade-road-close-23999706 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-promenade-road-close-23999706)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 27, 2022, 10:16:59 am
What a fiasco I experienced at the Junction flyover roundabout last night!      I was travelling through Junction on my way to Deganwy when I stopped at the roundabout because the traffic lights were on red.    I noticed the sequence of light changes that allowed the traffic from Conwy to move on three occasions and the traffic from Deganwy on two occasions while the lights in front of me remained on red.
Traffic behind me was getting impatient and at least 6 cars including one Atlas Taxi went through on a red light
Eventually our lights turned to Green so I headed towards Deganwy only to be met by a convoy of cars coming towards me.  A workman ran to my car and said that the traffic lights had broken and he removed some cones to allow me to get past the oncoming cars
I'll try and avoid that area in future.     I was advised that Lidl's trade  had been badly affected by the lights and I can understand why people are reluctant to shop there while these road works are ongoing
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 28, 2022, 10:02:11 am
Hugo, here's the DP report on your experience.......

 Traffic chaos in Llandudno Junction after lights get stuck on red
Cars were backed up in every direction

Broken traffic lights caused chaos at the Weekly News roundabout in Llandudno Junction as cars were backed up in every direction. The traffic lights were stuck on red, causing drivers to dangerously pull out to escape queues stretching over the flyover bridge, towards the A55, Llandudno Junction and on the A546 towards Deganwy.

Other frustrated drivers performed three-point turns to escape the stationary queues. The council is currently carrying out an 11-week programme of works to replace the flyover bridge’s ‘waterproofing, movement joints and drainage’.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/traffic-chaos-llandudno-junction-after-24077817?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589 (https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/traffic-chaos-llandudno-junction-after-24077817?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589)
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 13, 2022, 09:30:38 am
Please be aware of abnormal load movements which will begin tomorrow afternoon (Monday) and will be travelling along the A5 from the Cerrigydrudion area to the A483 up until Friday.

The loads will be escorted by
@NWPRPU
officers and we thank you in advance for your patience.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 23, 2022, 09:59:37 am
WORK on the top of Llandudno Junction flyover will finish tomorrow (June 23), as traffic management is set to be removed.

Work to replace the waterproofing, movement joints and drainage on the bridge began on May 9, with the work set to completed across 2022 and 2023.

Further work on phase one of the project is planned for September, with the second phase beginning next year.

The Council added that they expect all traffic management to be removed before tomorrow afternoon?s rush hour, and that the layout for the roundabout and the flyover will be the same as before the work started.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: ?The work on top of Llandudno Junction flyover will finish on Thursday, 23 June and traffic management will be removed.

?Work will continue underground and the subway will be closed to pedestrians.

?More work is planned for September, with a second phase in 2023.?       ref pioneer
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 24, 2022, 03:58:25 pm
Wales set to change speed limit from 30mph to 20mph default, all you need to know
The new law, set for discussion at the Senedd, has caused controversy

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/wales-set-change-speed-limit-24311148
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on June 24, 2022, 10:02:26 pm
Some won't be happy until we are driving along with a person carrying a red flag walking in front of us!

It will also not be as economical to drive along at <20mph in a low gear, as it is to drive at 30mph in a higher gear.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 25, 2022, 12:33:15 am
Wait until they ban any parking on the pavements, we won't even be able to do 20 mph while we are navigating our way around the cars
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Helig on June 25, 2022, 09:52:01 am
They reduced the speed limit to 20mph in the city roads in Brighton some time ago. This was all very well but Sussex Police said they didn't have the resources to enforce it. In Dumfries area this 20mph limit has been brought in more recently. It is the same here as there is no attempt to enforce it. This means that all the efforts they make, new road markings, new road signs etc, are a total waste of time and money.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 25, 2022, 10:43:54 am
I agree with you completely Helig, why go to all the trouble of making laws if you don't intend to enforce them.   This applies to other things apart from motoring such as litter, dog micro chipping and dog fouling.    There must be many other examples too


As for making laws banning parking cars on parts of a pavements it seems ridiculous.as there are existing laws banning cars from obstructing pavements but they are not enforced either.
Just imagine in some of our narrow streets if cars had to park entirely on the road only a bicycle would be able to get past the cars, it's getting to be a mad mad world
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 26, 2022, 05:50:03 pm
Some won't be happy until we are driving along with a person carrying a red flag walking in front of us!

It will also not be as economical to drive along at <20mph in a low gear, as it is to drive at 30mph in a higher gear.

Speed reductions won't prevent bad driving.   I was driving from Bodelwyddan Hospital today and approached the roundabout to go over the A55 bridge to drive back to Colwyn Bay.  When I was about to cross the bridge a van on the inside nearly scraped the side of my car.
It turned out that the van had been close behind me from the Hospital and tried to over take me on the inside.
Luckily no contact was made but the NHS van driver should have known better.    I do feel sorry for any learner drivers now as the standard of driving on the roads nowadays is pretty poor
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 27, 2022, 04:30:08 pm
Stretches of the A55 and Caernarfon bypass will shut for repairs this week
Drivers are being asked to be patient while the works are carried out


The Caernarfon bypass has had a few problems already in such a short time

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stretches-a55-caernarfon-bypass-shut-24332166
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 27, 2022, 03:49:09 pm
We already know that in 2023 Wales will be introducing a 20 mph speed limit on some residential roads, but what about cars parking on the pavement?       This has also been discussed by the Welsh Government so that may happen in the future 
Before they do that they should give some serious thought to the matter.
I was in Llandudno today and drove down Church Walks which as most locals know is a nightmare to park in.      If the parked cars on either side of the road did not park on the pavement then traffic would have difficulty driving down this busy street
One car, the dark blue one on the left hand side deserved the title " Bad parker of the week"  It was parked at an angle and the front end was jutting out about two feet. 
Later on I drove down Brookes Street and it was a nightmare,  I'm glad that it was day time and most of the cars had been driven off to work.   It must be extremely hard for the residents when all the cars are parked there at night
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2022, 05:28:04 pm
Llandudno street cordoned off as air ambulance lands at incident
Norman Road has been blocked off while the incident is dealt with


There was another incident in Vaughan Street recently and it makes you wonder if a 20 mph speed limit would have prevented a serious injury to the pedestrians or is it just that the standard of driving is so poor that these accidents would happen whatever the speed limit was
I hope the injured party is not too badly hurt and presume that the driver of the vehicle would have been tested for drink or drugs as a matter of course.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-llandudno-street-cordoned-air-24614480
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 28, 2022, 08:14:38 pm
I don't know the cause of the accidents, but I have noticed, especially in Llandudno, that pedestrians often step out into the road without looking for cars.  When in town I do drive slowly but often I have had people step out from between parked cars without regard for the traffic - even had young women push child in pushchair out first.  Dash cam does record, my brakes are good and I'm not going quickly.  I don't want to be involved in any incident as I know I would be, initially at least, to blame due to the car I drive. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 29, 2022, 09:33:01 am
I know what you mean DVT, as a driver you have to be aware of all eventualities especially people walking out from behind parked cars without looking for traffic
I remember many years ago when an old lady just stepped off the kerb right in front of me.  Luckily the weather was dry and I was not driving fast and my car was kept in good condition       I felt so sorry for the lady as she obviously had a fright but she couldn't stop apologising for what she had done.
I remember that incident so well because it happened on the West Shore after I had been digging in the sand for Lugworm.    The Lugworm went everywhere on the dash board, the seats etc
The incident in Norman Road shouldn't be speed related because there are many speed bumps along that road
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 29, 2022, 09:40:31 am
This is a follow up to the incident in Norman Road yesterday
Man taken to hospital following reports person fell from window of property
An air ambulance crew was called to the emergency on Thursday afternoon



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/man-taken-hospital-following-reports-24615824
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 31, 2022, 07:02:22 pm
Welsh council goes back to 30mph speed limit after traffic complaints   The council said it made the decision after listening to residents' concerns

Perhaps the Welsh Government may make a U turn on this 20 mph limit due to come into force in 2023?


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-council-goes-back-30mph-24629720
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 05, 2022, 09:56:57 am
REFURBISHMENT work to the Llandudno Junction Flyover has been postponed until 2023, Conwy County Borough Council has said.

The refurbishment plans to replace waterproofing, movement joints and drainage on the bridge, with the work on top of the bridge completed on June 23.

After the Council made revisions to the original plan, a second phase of work was planned for September this year, with a third phase set for 2023.

This has now been amended again, with the Council wishing to get all the remaining work done in April 2023, subject to funding.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/20900891.work-llandudno-junction-flyover-pushed-back-2023/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 07, 2022, 10:00:46 am
DRIVERS using the tramway on the Great Orme in Llandudno have been asked to adhere to signage on the Old Road.

The signage states ?Access Only?, and Police say this is only to be used by residents living on that road.

However, a ?flood? of traffic has built up from other drivers using the road, and has made the place ?dangerous? for pedestrians.

A North Wales Police West Conwy Coastal spokesperson said: ?It has been reported to us that a considerable volume of traffic use the Old Road on the Great Orme in Llandudno.

?The signage clearly state 'Access Only' - this is only to be used by the residents living on that road.

?We are aware that a number of local residents have been using Old Road as a short cut for years and most feel it is their right.

?In recent years, a trickle of vehicles has become a flood and it is now a dangerous place for pedestrians.

?The area will be monitored, please adhere to the signage that is there for everybody's safety.?         ref pioneer

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 08, 2022, 04:34:36 pm
Road shut due to crash as drivers urged to avoid area
Conway Road in Llandudno Junction has been shut in both directions



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-road-shut-due-crash-24966938
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 09, 2022, 10:03:58 am
Last night about midnight, I was driving up King's Drive in Colwyn Bay when I was approaching the cross roads with the Old Highway.
Just above the crossroads was a big sign "Police Slow" so I proceeded past the sign with caution when a dark clothed man ran into the road to stop me
It turned out that there had been a bad crash higher up the road and the Fire Service, ambulance and Police were on the scene so the road was actually blocked.    I took the diversion that the off duty Policeman suggested but the strange thing was that at the top of King's Drive there were no Police signs there whatsoever.     In fact I saw a car driving down the hill.
Anyway I hope that no one was seriously injured in the crash
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 09, 2022, 03:17:17 pm
Last night about midnight, I was driving up King's Drive in Colwyn Bay when I was approaching the cross roads with the Old Highway.
Just above the crossroads was a big sign "Police Slow" so I proceeded past the sign with caution when a dark clothed man ran into the road to stop me
It turned out that there had been a bad crash higher up the road and the Fire Service, ambulance and Police were on the scene so the road was actually blocked.    I took the diversion that the off duty Policeman suggested but the strange thing was that at the top of King's Drive there were no Police signs there whatsoever.     In fact I saw a car driving down the hill.
Anyway I hope that no one was seriously injured in the crash

That sounds a bit suspicious to me. If there was a police sign there there would normally be police around and a uniformed officer would be directing traffic I'd have thought?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 09, 2022, 04:13:32 pm
It did seem strange to me too Dave but at that time of night I wasn't getting out of the car to talk to the person..     The sign was the normal Police reflective sign saying Police Slow but nothing else so I proceeded with caution and then the guy came to my car..  My car doors lock automatically but I wound down the window slightly to talk to him and his first words were " didn't you see the sign"so I said that I had but the sign didn't say that the road was closed.
I did find it odd that there was no Police sign or presence at the top of the hill above this alleged accident.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on September 09, 2022, 05:15:59 pm
Seems very weird he came out into the road no high vis not too bright of him and not too bright on that road at night.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 09, 2022, 06:31:21 pm
He said that he was an off duty Policeman so that may explain the lack of a high viz jacket but I know someone in the Police Traffic so I'll ask him when I see him next
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 11, 2022, 04:47:41 pm
Police shut A55 junction as ambulance escorted through traffic jams stretching miles
There are reports of six mile queues after traffic was held up.     I've just had a look at the A55 web cam and the traffic is still stuck there



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-shut-a55-junction-24990069
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 17, 2022, 10:21:47 am
A ROAD near Old Colwyn will be closed in daytime hours for three weeks while resurfacing works are undertaken.

Llanelian Road, between Dolwen Road and the crossroads in Llanelian-yn-Rhos, will be closed for three weeks from September 21.

Between 7am and 6pm the road will be closed for the safety of workers.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: We are resurfacing Llanelian Road, from B5383 Dolwen Road to the crossroads in Llanelian-yn-Rhos.

?Work starts September 21 for three weeks.?
Title: Re: Roads in the area...Llanrwst
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2022, 10:32:47 am
A BRIDGE in Llanrwst has been closed until the weekend in order to undergo emergency repairs.

The B5106 Pont Fawr is expected to reopen at the weekend, with no date set by Conwy County Borough Council as yet.

This is following a recent road collision at the bridge.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: ?B5106 Pont Fawr, Llanrwst is closed for emergency repairs following a road traffic collision.

?We expect the road to reopen at the weekend.?

The nearby Tal y Cafn bridge was also closed from 9.25pm last night (September 21) until 5.20am this morning.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 30, 2022, 06:34:47 pm
Snowdonia road shut after being 'completely blocked' by massive landslide
Dramatic images taken by local residents show large rocks and floodwater obstructing the road



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-road-shut-after-being-25151273
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 13, 2022, 10:26:06 am
A ROAD in Conwy will partially close for 11 days as it undergoes resurfacing works later this month.

Part of Pen Garth in Conwy, between Mill Hill and Gorlan, will be closed between 7.30am and 6pm from October 17 to October 28.

Preparation work began October 10

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: ?We are resurfacing part of Pengarth in Conwy, from Mill Hill to Gorlan.

?Preparation work begins on October 10 with traffic lights.

?The road will be closed daily from October 17 between approximately 7.30am and 6pm.

?Work finishes: October 28.?
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 17, 2022, 09:58:03 am
THE inner lane of the Weekly News roundabout in Llandudno Junction will be closed for two days to undergo electrical work.

With remaining work on the Llandudno Junction Flyover postponed until 2023, the inner lane of the roundabout will close from Monday, 17 October to Wednesday, 19 October.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: ?We?re doing electrical work on the Weekly News roundabout (by the Llandudno Junction flyover) from Monday 17 to Wednesday 19 October.

For safety, the inner lane of the roundabout will be closed while we do this work.

Drivers on A483, A5, A470 and A487 warned of delays as huge bridge beams travel across North Wales
Motorists are being thanked in advance for their 'patience and understanding'

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drivers-a483-a5-a470-a487-25275669
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 21, 2022, 06:34:06 pm
Menai suspension Bridge to close immediately for emergency maintenance works    This could create problems for traffic, especially at peak times


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/menai-bridge-close-emergency-maintenance-25322962
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 23, 2022, 11:14:30 am
Menai suspension Bridge to close immediately for emergency maintenance works    This could create problems for traffic, especially at peak times
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/menai-bridge-close-emergency-maintenance-25322962

It did not take long for the problems to start.....

Anglesey: Menai Bridge closure a nightmare, haulier warns

The closure of one of two bridges linking Anglesey and the mainland has been described as a "nightmare" for businesses.

Menai Bridge closed suddenly on Friday after engineers identified safety risks which could take 16 weeks to fix.

Haulage firm boss Steph Rielly said the implications could be costly due to anticipated hold-ups.

The Welsh government said available options to reopen the bridge as soon as possible were being actively assessed

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63356480?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 24, 2022, 10:28:11 pm
Crash shuts A470 in Llandudno

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-shuts-a470-llandudno-25346200
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 27, 2022, 10:24:24 am
Three bridge lanes, park-and-ride and new 'wind strategy' to tackle Menai crossing crisis
Some measures are already under active consideration and the Welsh Government will listen to other suggestions

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/three-bridge-lanes-park-ride-25360670


Staggering 300% rise in cost of third Menai crossing as bridge decision looms
Even if the scheme gets the green light, the new bridge may not open for another seven years, minister reveals

Estimated costs for building a third crossing across the Menai Strait have more than trebled since a preferred option was identified four years ago. If a new road bridge is finally given the go-ahead, it would take around seven years to build and cost some ?400 million
[I suppose we can double that by the time its built]

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/staggering-300-rise-cost-third-25361359
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 27, 2022, 12:56:24 pm
I read this article in the Daily Post today and just hope that the child was not seriously injured.    There should have been a 20 mph sign in the area by the school and the Welsh Government may extend the 20 mph limit to residential areas next year.
Having said that no one can anticipate bad driving as I found out on Tuesday.  I had just turned in to a road near where I live and the first house on the left has a drive that is obscured from the road.     Just as I was about to pass the driveway a white VW shot out of the drive, crossed the pavement and turned in my direction without slowing down or stopping
All I could do was an emergency stop followed by a loud blast on the car horn.        Unfortunately I had removed my dash camera so I didn't have proof of the incident but as soon as I got home I replaced the dash cam as that near miss did give me a fright

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-road-closed-near-school-25365307
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 28, 2022, 04:40:08 pm
I've just looked at the A55 web cam and there is heavy congestion at the Britannia Bridge, it must be a nightmare for people who have to use the bridge quite often during the day


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-heavy-congestion-around-britannia-25379825
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 29, 2022, 04:41:36 pm
It's still October and yet the CCBC Panto season has started already.    The Council has done a good job on the Colwyn Bay promenade but this one way system is unbelievable.  I wonder who put forward such a controversial proposal?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/rhos-seas-controversial-one-way-25376250
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 01, 2022, 10:01:07 am
Calls for improved road safety after 20-year-old dies a week on from A470 crash

?Cooperating with local residents, I have previously worked with North Wales Police and Conwy County Borough Council regarding the numerous accidents on Conway Road, and the fear it causes local residents and pedestrians.

?Whilst some changes were secured, I am pleased that North Wales Police have now responded promptly to my request for urgent measures to be taken, and that they will have a presence with handheld speed guns in the area.

?I will continue to liaise with residents and authorities so to try and secure additional measures to improve the safety of the highway for all."

Mrs Finch-Saunders, along with residents, have previously campaigned to improve highway safety along Conway Road, resulting in changes being made to Wormhout Roundabout and a flashing speed sign being put in place.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23089820.calls-improved-road-safety-20-year-old-dies-week-llandudno-crash/
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 07, 2022, 10:12:18 am
The 20 mph speed limit due in Wales next year looks like it is still going ahead,  I don't suppose the savings of 100 million pounds per year includes the cost of replacing all the signs and any road markings.
Speed signs won't deter bad drivers like the ones I saw a few days ago.     A car overtook two cyclists and it was on the wrong side of the road and also on a blind bend, the car was then followed by a motorbike doing the same thing



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/controversial-20mph-limits-could-save-25447713
Title: Re: Roads in the area.... near Blaenau Ffestiniog
Post by: SteveH on November 11, 2022, 02:39:09 pm
Seven crashes in the past two years have led campaigners to call for the speed limit on a road through their rural village to be halved.

The crashes in Rhyd y Sarn, near Blaenau Ffestiniog in Gwynedd, prompted people to demand the speed limit on the A496 is cut from 60mph to 30mph.

Resident Peter Jones said it was "the sort of statistic you'd expect on a motorway" rather than a village.

Gwynedd council said it hoped new measures would "improve road safety".

On the way into the village from the Blaenau Ffestiniog side there are bends and a steep downward hill, with some vehicles crashing into the bridge there.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63587760
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 27, 2022, 10:35:10 am
Drivers have been warned about two closures of the A55 over the next week. Road chiefs will shut the westbound and eastbound lanes in separate closures - starting on Sunday night.

These will take place between junctions 11 (Llandygai) and 15 (Llanfairfechan). Roadworks between junctions 12 and 15 have been taking place for nearly two years - with a 40mph limit in place on a long stretch between Abergwyngregan and Bangor. This has been enforced by average speed cameras.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drivers-warned-two-a55-closures-25613155
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 02, 2022, 10:42:38 am
CONWY County Borough Council is working with Road Safety Wales to highlight the vulnerability of horses and riders through a campaign which reminds drivers of their responsibilities when sharing road space with equestrian road users.

Posters have been put up in 10 different areas in Conwy County to remind drivers to drive slowly and pass horses with a wide gap, in line with the latest Highway Code.

Teresa Ciano, chair of the partnership, said: ?Road Safety Wales is grateful to the British Horse Society for providing invaluable data via the incident reporting section of their website.

?This has helped ensure the advice can be located where most needed, at incident hotspot locations as well as on routes frequently used by the equestrian community.?

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23164277.conwy-drivers-encouraged-safe-passing-horses/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 07, 2022, 10:39:50 am
Pictures show Menai Suspension Bridge resurfacing works have started
The work is set to last until Friday night

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pictures-show-menai-suspension-bridge-25687744
Title: Re: Roads in the area.......A470
Post by: SteveH on December 10, 2022, 10:11:13 am
Work to carry out essential repairs to streetlights on the A470 will see a series of road closures. The works are taking place in Llanrwst town centre.

It will see full closures take place over seven evenings and nights. There will be diversions in place for cars and other smaller vehicles through the town.

Arrangements will be in place to allow deliveries and access for local businesses.

Closure details:
Monday Dec 12 - Friday Dec 16

The A470 in Llanrwst will be closed for 4 nights between 5pm and 1am.
Except on 13/12/22 when the road will be closed between 8pm -1am due to the Christmas Fayre.
Monday Dec 19 - Thursday Dec 22

The A470 in Llanrwst will be closed for 3 nights between 5pm and 1am

Traffic Wales said: "The works are being carried out in the evenings when traffic flows are historically lower to minimise disruption. In the interest of public and workforce safety the A470 Llanrwst Town will be under full closure and vehicular traffic will be diverted through Parry Road, Tal Y Bont Road and School Bank Road. Pedestrian access will be maintained at all times.

"Vehicles over 3m in width will be diverted via the A55 J19 Glan Conwy, A470, A5 and A55 J11 Llandygai. Additionally, arrangements will be in place to allow deliveries and access for local businesses/services in liaison with the principal contractor."

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a470-closures-conwy-county-emergency-25719353?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 14, 2022, 10:19:30 am
Third Menai crossing could start getting built by 2027 according to Welsh Government's project pipeline
A new bridge over the Menai Strait has been on the agenda for years and come into focus with the closure of Menai Suspension Bridge

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/third-menai-crossing-could-start-25745757?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 20, 2022, 10:09:12 am
LIVE: Major delays build on A55 following crash
Motorists have been warned to expect long queues.    The eastbound lane between Holywell and Northop is where the crash happened

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-major-delays-build-a55-25794920
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2022, 10:34:36 pm
LIVE: Police incident shuts A55 lane amid reports of one vehicle crash
A stretch of the eastbound carriageway near Colwyn Bay has been cordoned off


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-police-incident-shuts-a55-25812175
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 22, 2022, 12:06:29 pm
Police arrest 32 people in roadside drug test trial
Drug swipe kits have been given to Dyfed-Powys Police response officers allowing them to test drivers for traces of drugs at collisions and during intelligence-led vehicle stops
Perhaps the North Wales Police should do random drug tests as the standard of driving has gone worse.    Perhaps the bad drivers are on dope or they could just be dopey drivers but it doesn't help with road safety


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-arrest-32-people-roadside-25813974
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 27, 2022, 10:42:45 am
Menai Suspension Bridge is on track to reopen next month. The bridge was shut suddenly on October 21 after potential issues with the bridge span hangers were detected during a maintenance inspection.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/menai-suspension-bridge-track-reopen-25840146
Title: Re: Roads in the area.......Great Orme
Post by: SteveH on January 05, 2023, 10:27:32 am
A SECTION of the Great Orme in Llandudno will be closed for a month while new cattle grids are installed.

This will be at a stretch of Tŷ Gwyn Road, with the work due to commence next week and last until mid-February.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23228924.stretch-great-orme-road-close-new-cattle-grids-installed/
Title: Re: Roads in the area.........Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on January 06, 2023, 09:20:56 am
A ROAD in Llandudno will partially close for 11 days to undergo resurfacing work, the Council has said.

Conway Road, from the Links Roundabout to the Queen's Road Roundabout, will see the southbound carriageway closed from 7am to 4pm between Monday, 9 January and Friday, 20 January.

One southbound lane will be open outside these times, while the northbound side will be open as usual.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on January 06, 2023, 03:53:04 pm
Minor incovenience when you consider the state of that stretch of road - certainly needs resurfacing.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 16, 2023, 05:04:58 pm
Pavement parking fines for drivers in Wales to move ahead
The Deputy Minister for Climate Change has agreed in principle to proceed with new powers.    Thank goodness they rejected a blanket ban on pavement parking but laws should only be made if they intend to enforce them

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pavement-parking-fines-drivers-wales-25986678
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 17, 2023, 10:16:33 am
The North Wales roads affected by snow and ice
Motorists have been warned to take extra care on the roads


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-roads-affected-snow-25995540
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 18, 2023, 10:40:59 am
The North Wales roads that will be prioritised by gritters as snow and ice hits
Here is every road the six councils will grit as North Wales is hit by snow

 An interactive map of Conwy Council's gritting routes can be found here.  http://map.conwy.gov.uk/gis/cmfindit/default.aspx?menuconfig=STE&filters=GRA%7E1%3C2&zoomtoselection=true&itemconfigid=GRAID


full story https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-roads-prioritised-gritters-25999393?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 18, 2023, 10:52:56 am
LIVE - A55 crashes shut Rhuallt Hill stretch and part of Pen Y Clip Tunnel Winter weather continues to cause disruption on the roads
Winter conditions on high ground above Holywell can be quite bad at times, even Colwyn Heights was bad about half an hour ago when we had a heavy hailstorm

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-stretch-shut-rhuallt-26005426


Recap - A55 reopened after snow left it impassable but caution still being urged Heavy snow led to a stretch of the carriageway having to be shut, but it is open again

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-impassable-a55-closed-rhuallt-26004794



Title: Re: Roads in the area ...Great Orme
Post by: SteveH on January 19, 2023, 10:25:08 am
A ROAD and footpath are closed in Llandudno due to a rock fall.
This is on Marine Drive (North Shore) on the Great Orme.

A spokesperson for Conwy County Borough Council said on Wednesday, January 18: "Marine Drive (North Shore), Great Orme, Llandudno: Road and footpath are closed due to a rock fall. Access for residents only.

"Engineers will be going out to inspect the area, "We will provide an update when the road is reopened."  ref Pioneer


'Dangerous' state of Great Orme in Llandudno slammed as locals struggle in snow
Community leaders said icy conditions left people struggling to get up and down the Orme

Residents struggling to get up and down the Great Orme in the snow and ice are being let down by Conwy County Council, say angry Llandudno councillors. Four Llandudno councillors have written to Conwy?s highways chiefs complaining about the state of the roads during the snow yesterday on Tuesday, saying they were not included in the gritting schedule.

Despite the Great Orme having several of Conwy?s steepest roads, the council chose not to grit either Ty Gwyn or Llwynon Road. Now Conwy county councillors Louise Emery and Harry Saville have signed a letter, together with Llandudno town councillors Greg Robbins and Loren Saville, demanding Conwy includes Great Orme roads on its gritting schedule.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/dangerous-state-great-orme-llandudno-26013063?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 19, 2023, 03:56:51 pm
I was surprise to learn that Ty Gwyn Road And Llwynon Road were not included in CCBC's list of roads to be gritted in Conwy County.
Those two roads, especially Ty Gwyn Road are bad enough when conditions are perfect but in Wintry conditions it's an accident waiting to happen
It's not that long ago that a car slid into the house on the right ( it's on the corner of Old Road and Ty Gwyn Road ) and the house  became unsafe so the tenants had to evacuate the building.     It wasn't the first time that a vehicle had hit the building so it's a good job that safety bollards are now in front of the house
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 28, 2023, 10:21:20 am
An historic bridge which connects Anglesey to the mainland is on track to reopen at the end of next week.

The Menai Suspension Bridge was closed suddenly in October over "serious" safety risks.

Temporary repair work began on 5 January and was due to take about four weeks.

The Welsh government has confirmed that the bridge is expected to reopen to restricted loads by midnight on 2 February.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64422707
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 29, 2023, 10:38:59 am
A55 motorists may face disruption in early February during a part-closure of the Conwy Tunnel. Upgrades are needed in both bores and an emergency response exercise is also planned.

A contraflow system will be put in place in the open bore while work is carried out in the closed bore. The work will be carried out over eight days between 7pm on Saturday, February 4, and 7am on Sunday, February 12.

Traffic Wales, the Welsh Government?s network manager, said ?essential upgrades? are needed. As well as repairs to tunnel infrastructure, ?life safety systems? in Conwy Tunnel are due to be improved.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-drivers-braced-eight-days-26097570?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area..DELAYS A55
Post by: SteveH on February 06, 2023, 10:05:58 am
Roadworks are causing major delays on the A55. Queueing traffic is reported in both directions between J17 A547 (Conwy Morfa) and J20 B5115 Brompton Avenue (Colwyn Bay).

Delays of up to half an hour have been reported, due to a part-closure of the Conwy Tunnel. Upgrades are needed in both bores and an emergency response exercise is also planned.

A contraflow system has been put in place in the open bore while work is carried out in the closed bore. The work will be carried out over eight days, and started on Saturday with work set to finish on Sunday, February 12.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 16, 2023, 10:37:20 am
INTERACTIVE SPEED SIGNS
Last month Llandudno Town Council considered whether they should offer to work with Conwy County Borough Council to install interactive speed signs in the 20mph section of Trinity Avenue and on West Parade.  We receive frequent complaints about speeding on both roads and these signs would encourage people to make an extra effort to stay within the speed limit.

We were pleased when the Town Council agreed with our suggestion to explore funding interactive signs at these locations.  A final decision will still need to be made in the future, but we're pleased that some progress is being made.  ref Gogarth News letter
Title: Re: Roads in the area.Pavement parkers face 70 pound fine
Post by: SteveH on February 20, 2023, 09:56:23 am
Pavement parkers could face fines of up to 70 pound under new Welsh government plans to keep them clear.

It plans to give councils across Wales the powers to tackle the issue after a pilot scheme in Cardiff in 2021.

Kat Watkins, from charity Disability Wales, welcomed the changes. She said blocked paths risk people's lives and create barriers for disabled people.

Motoring group the AA said drivers park on pavements in built-up areas due to pressure on suitable parking spaces.

The rules across the UK vary but only the UK government has the power to criminalise it.

Parking on the pavement is only illegal in London. The Scottish government has passed a law banning it but is not yet enforcing it.

In Wales, local authorities can use Traffic Regulation Orders to create street-by-street or area-wide bans, but this can be time consuming and costly, according to Deputy Minister for Climate Change Lee Waters.

Charity Living Streets asked people in Wales how much of a problem it was.

Out of 1,000 people surveyed, 83% said pavement parking was a problem, and 83% of respondents supported a ban on parking on pavements.

In a survey of more than 24,000 people across the UK and Ireland, sustainable transport charity Sustrans found that banning pavement parking would help 70% of all residents to walk or wheel more.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64485271
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 20, 2023, 04:50:06 pm
It seems pointless creating more laws if you don't have the resources to enforce them.     Currently only the police have the power to crack down on obstructions, they don't have the resources or time to do it.  How many times have you seen cars and lorries blocking pavements knowing that the chances of getting fined are nil?

The statement "So by giving councils the powers to issue fines we think that could be an effective tool because they can then use their judgement as to where is the most problematic and target their enforcement at those areas." seems to imply that local Councils have the resources to deal with this extra work?     

Some of the roads in the area are so narrow that if cars did not park partially on the pavement then that in itself would create more problems for the motorists.   Common sense doesn't always prevail
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on February 20, 2023, 06:52:48 pm
That?s nothing Hugo. I?m sick of a few cars coming up church walks the wrong way. 😡.  I stood in the road and made him back down to the big house next to the school.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 20, 2023, 09:42:20 pm
Good for you Norman,    I've done the same in Wentworth Avenue in Colwyn Heights, another one way system
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 01, 2023, 09:30:25 pm
Second phase of roadworks on North Wales flyover to restart
Motorists can expect delays when the Conwy and Llandudno Junction flyover work restarts

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/second-phase-roadworks-north-wales-26363884
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 07, 2023, 01:19:35 pm
LIVE: Crash blocks A55 near Black Cat roundabout
Emergency services are at the scene and traffic is building up

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-blocks-a55-near-26407965
Title: Re: Roads in the area.......A470
Post by: SteveH on March 11, 2023, 10:20:27 am
Aberconwy MS, has written to Lee Waters MS, deputy minister for climate change, regarding ?broken promises? on the A470 between Glan Conwy and Betws y Coed.

On July 8, 2021, Mr Waters wrote to Mrs Finch-Saunders stating: ?In the next financial year 2022-23, we will be undertaking a WelTAG stage one appraisal of the route from Glan Conwy to Betws Y Coed?.

This has not yet taken place.

On April 22, 2022, he wrote to her stating: ?The section of the A470 between Glan Conwy and Betws Y Coed will fall under this commission?.

On March 8, 2023, Lea Beckerleg, of North Wales Transport Commission, wrote to Mrs Finch-Saunders stating: ?The commission is not considering specific road schemes across the region as a rule ? whether they were included in the Roads Review or not.

?The exception is the Menai crossings, which the deputy minister for climate change has asked to be considered separately.

?I can?t be sure why a letter has mentioned a specific scheme in this way, but that is not correct.?

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23377017.welsh-government-challenged-aberconwy-ms-a470-broken-promises/
Title: Re: Roads in the area....Flyover news
Post by: SteveH on March 17, 2023, 10:46:24 am
Motorists warned to expect major disruption as date confirmed for North Wales flyover phase two works
Phase two of the Llandudno Junction and Conwy bridge flyover works will restart in April

Phase two of the project will complete the works, and will now run from April 17 until July 20, as dry weather is required for the refurbishment works. One lane of the flyover will be closed to traffic during the work with traffic crossing over the flyover and around the roundabout being managed by temporary traffic lights.

The road will remain closed during bank holidays and half term due to safety concerns. Bus routes are planned to be amended to allow for the diversion, but train services will not be affected as they run via a separate route.

Access will be maintained for pedestrians and cyclists through the site from Conwy to the steps at the Llandudno Junction end of the site, near Lidl. Vehicles travelling from the Tesco?s roundabout towards Llandudno Junction and Llandudno are expected to follow a diversion via Black Cat roundabout.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/motorists-warned-expect-major-disruption-26490823
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 19, 2023, 04:27:26 pm
Conwy man who used car as a weapon to hit biker jailed

I'm not sure if this has been posted on here before but if it has then I apologise for the duplication.      I watched this dash cam footage last night for the first time and it's just unbelievable,  the Biker was lucky that he wasn't killed in this road rage incident in Kinmel Bay



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64986555
Title: Re: Roads in the area.........Polluting vehicles
Post by: SteveH on March 21, 2023, 10:35:15 am
Polluting M4 and A470 drivers in Wales could face payments

Drivers of heavily polluting vehicles could have to pay on some of Wales' busiest roads under a new law.

The Welsh government said it would only happen if 50mph zones fail to reduce emissions.

Sections of the M4 near Newport and the A470 at Pontypridd have been considered as potential clean air zones if lower speed limits do not work.

Plaid Cymru and the Conservatives said it was a "step forward" but "overdue".

The charging powers are contained in a long-awaited bill that also paves the way towards new national targets on cutting pollution.

Other plans include steeper fines for drivers who leave their car engines idling, especially when parked outside schools.

Councils will get new powers to enforce smoke control areas, where there are restrictions on what fuels can be burned.

To tackle noise pollution, ministers will have to produce a strategy that would also protect natural sounds, such as birdsong.

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-65015300
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 22, 2023, 09:09:08 am
30mph speed limits in Conwy and Denbighshire to drop to 20mph     Some roads will be exempt from the change

I wonder if the 20 mph limit will include part of the A470?
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/30mph-speed-limits-conwy-denbighshire-26525940
Title: Re: Roads in the area...Colwyn Bay
Post by: SteveH on March 29, 2023, 10:14:42 am
11 DAYS of drainage works will lead to traffic measures on a high street in Colwyn Bay.

The county council will be replacing drainage pipes under the Conway Road roundabout from 8am on April 3 until 5pm on April 14.

This will result in temporary traffic lights on Conway Road, and Pwllycrochan Avenue and Marine Road will be closed to traffic at the roundabout.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23417799.11-day-drainage-works-disrupt-traffic-colwyn-bay/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area...A470
Post by: SteveH on March 31, 2023, 10:22:43 am
Welsh Government is cutting the speed limit on a stretch of the A470. An order will see the speed limit reduced between Glan Conwy and the Black Cat roundabout next to Junction 19 of the A55.

The current limit after leaving the village is 60mph. But this is being cut to 40mph.

Ministers say the move is to improve safety on this stretch. They said it followed consultation with the chief constable of North Wales Police Amanda Blakeman.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-government-putting-new-speed-26598817?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on March 31, 2023, 06:20:50 pm
The 40mph signs went up on Wednesday  ... so you now should not exceed that speed until you get to Fforddlas where the road becomes narrower and twisty and you can do 60mph.  Wonder how long before the camera van appears in "green seats" lay-by.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 07, 2023, 10:37:48 pm
Long line of vehicles fined for ignoring double yellow lines on busy Snowdonia road
Footage from the scene shows around a dozen parking fines issued over a small stretch of the A5

The Police and the Council knew that this was likely to happen so I can't understand why the Tow Trucks were not on hand to remove the offending vehicles.    Word would soon get around on social media and perhaps it would stop these motorists from offending again


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/long-line-vehicles-fined-ignoring-26655199
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 08, 2023, 12:29:29 pm
Credit where credits due and I'll take back everything I said in my previous posting,     Well done to everyone involved in trying to stop this illegal parking.    If these motorists break the law then I'm sure that they are doing other illegal things such as dumping litter etc
Police warning over 'irresponsible' Easter parking after almost 40 cars towed in Snowdonia
Officers are keeping a watch in the national park to curb a problem that is 'risking lives'



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-warning-over-irresponsible-easter-26658115
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 09, 2023, 10:36:31 am
What you had to say about Easter parking 'mayhem' that shut major Snowdonia road
There is little local sympathy for the 'selfish' motorists whose cars were towed away

There was little sympathy for motorists complaining about the lack of suitable parking and the recent imposition of double yellow lines in the Ogwen Valley. One local said the enforcement was appropriate. ?People are calling it ?anti-English? and ?anti-tourism?,? he wrote. ?If it?s anti-anything, it?s anti-stupid and anti-selfish.?

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-you-say-easter-parking-26658373
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 10, 2023, 10:07:33 am
Police warning over 'irresponsible' Easter parking after almost 40 cars towed in Snowdonia
Officers are keeping a watch in the national park to curb a problem that is 'risking lives'

Scores of other vehicles were also ticketed along the A5 the Ogwen Valley and on the A4086 near Pen-y-Pass on Yr Wyddfa (Snowdon). North Wales Police (NWP) was forced to close the A5 for several hours due to the sheer number of cars that needed to be towed away.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/police-warning-over-irresponsible-easter-26658115?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on April 10, 2023, 03:56:47 pm
A470 shut by crash near Zip World Betws-y-Coed and will be closed 'for some time'
The road is closed in both directions as emergency services deal with the incident



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a470-shut-crash-near-26666878
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on April 12, 2023, 12:10:29 pm
Re those tourists and their parking ...
Title: Re: Roads in the area...Traffic changes due to Llandudno Junction flyover work
Post by: SteveH on April 13, 2023, 10:14:41 am
The second phase of the Llandudno Junction flyover work is set to begin on April 17, with work to refurbish the flyover including replacements to waterproofing, movement joints and drainage.

The work was originally planned to be completed in three phases, but was soon amended, with the first phase being completed last year.

Phase two of the project will complete the work, and will run from April 17 to July 20, as dry weather is required for the refurbishment.

One lane of the bridge to Conwy will stay open, with 3-way traffic lights on the Weekly News roundabout to manage vehicles.

Traffic between Weekly News roundabout and Tesco roundabout (Ffordd 6G) will be one-way only. Ffordd 6G will have the same vehicle restrictions as the A55.

Drivers heading from Tesco towards Llandudno will need to follow the diversion via the A55 to Black Cat roundabout (J19).

You can also get to Conwy via A55 J17 and Llandudno Junction via A55 J19.

Access will be maintained for pedestrians and cyclists through the site from Conwy to the steps at the Llandudno Junction end of the site, near Lidl.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson added: ?Please allow extra time for your journey.

?Thank you for your patience while we carry out this vital work.?        ref pioneer
Title: Re: Roads in the area............Smart motorways
Post by: SteveH on April 16, 2023, 10:00:23 am
New smart motorway plans being scrapped

The building of all new smart motorways is being cancelled over cost and safety concerns, the government has announced.

Some 14 planned schemes, including 11 already on pause and three set for construction, will be scrapped due to finances and low public confidence.

Smart motorways are a stretch of road where technology is used to regulate traffic flow and ease congestion.

They also use the hard shoulder as an extra lane of traffic, which critics claim has led to road deaths.

Existing smart motorways - making up 10% of England's motorway network - will remain and undergo a previously announced safety refit to create 150 more emergency stopping places and improved technology.

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak - who pledged to ban smart motorways during his leadership campaign - said "all drivers deserve to have confidence in the roads they use to get around the country".

Are smart motorways dangerous?
The Department for Transport said the new schemes would have cost more than ?1bn, and cancelling them would allow time to track public trust in smart motorways over a longer period.

read more  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65288852
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 18, 2023, 10:12:21 am
THE SECOND phase of the Llandudno Junction flyover work started today, and here is what to expect.

Work to refurbish the flyover including replacements to waterproofing, movement joints and drainage will take place until July 20, causing three months of disruption to traffic in this time.

The work is already causing congestion on the A55 eastbound near Conwy, according to Traffic North Wales.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23459674.work-refurbish-llandudno-junction-flyover-resumes-today/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 19, 2023, 10:12:07 am
More speed camera enforcement to police new 20mph default speed limit in Wales
Welsh Government has agreed to additional funding to 'better enforce' new limits

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/more-speed-camera-enforcement-police-26724804
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 22, 2023, 10:42:53 am
Idea to convert A55 Britannia crossing into 'zipper bridge' being 'seriously considered'

The Welsh Government has pledged to seriously consider an innovative idea for easing congestion on the A55 Britannia Bridge over the Menai Strait. Engineers are examining a ?zipper? system that would enable the safe introduction of a three-lane arrangement to modulate rush hour flows.

Such systems vary but most use a barrier transfer machine known as ?road zipper?. These move linked concrete barriers from one lane to another by ?unzipping? them at 5mph-10mph.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/idea-convert-a55-britannia-crossing-26754539?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 23, 2023, 10:03:16 am
Plea to ease drivers' Llandudno travel misery during flyover work lasting three months
Senedd Member writes to council chief

As well as the obvious impact on Conwy the closure sees traffic stopped from coming into Llandudno from the Tesco roundabout. This has added to traffic pressures on the A470 route into and out of Llandudno.

MS for Aberconwy, is pleading with Cllr Charlie McCoubrey to direct drivers coming from the east to use more junctions along the A55 in Old Colwyn or Rhos-on-Sea/Colwyn Bay to ease traffic congestion.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/plea-ease-drivers-llandudno-travel-26758138
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on April 28, 2023, 10:07:27 am
Cheeky road sign tells drivers to ?adjust bras? and ?secure nuts? on potholed Welsh road
'We have complained many times about the road and the council has not carried out any meaningful maintenance'

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/cheeky-road-sign-tells-drivers-26790554
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 05, 2023, 10:35:00 am
Conwy flyover delays worsen as more traffic lights appear at roadworks
The refurbishment work will repair and maintain the bridge's waterproofing, movement joints, and drainage

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-flyover-delays-worsen-more-26841281?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area........A470 Accident
Post by: SteveH on May 14, 2023, 10:24:40 am
A motorcyclist has died following a crash with a car.

It happened on the A470 between Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coed in Conwy county at about 13:00 BST on Saturday.

He was pronounced dead at the scene of the collision with a silver Citroen Berlingo.

His next of kin and the coroner have been informed.

"Our thoughts are with the man?s family at this very difficult time," said Sgt Jason Diamond of North Wales Police.

"We are urging anybody who may have witnessed the collision, or anybody who may have been travelling along the A470 in the vicinity of Betws-y-Coed and who may have dashcam footage to contact us."

cont https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyremr3zr12o?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 14, 2023, 12:56:55 pm
That's really sad to hear Steve and unfortunately a similar thing happened near there fairly recently.    It's a bad road anyway but it's the standard of driving that is the problem
Just yesterday I was driving on the A470 from the Black cat roundabout to the Bodnant Welsh Farm foods  and and at the top of the hill above where the Riverside Nursery once was I met a line of cars travelling in the opposite direction.    This section is narrow and has many bends in it but the line of traffic was held up by a single cyclist who in all fairness to him, he was cycling as near as possible to the edge of the road.
Anyway an impatient motorist decided to overtake the cyclist even though he could see my car coming towards him.  I had to brake sharply to allow the motorist to pull in in front of the cyclist      Other cyclists that have found themselves in that position have not been so lucky
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on May 15, 2023, 10:05:03 am
Update on above..

Tributes have been pouring in for a much-loved husband and dad who died after a motorbike incident. The rider - named locally as Adzz Kenyon - suffered fatal injuries in a collision with a van on the A470 near Betws-y-Coed on Saturday afternoon.

Messages of sympathy have been flooding in for the popular family man. It comes after police launched an appeal for information about the crash between the motorbike and a silver Citroen Berlingo between Lon Muriau and Zip World Fforest shortly after 1pm.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tributes-pour-true-gentleman-killed-26912113?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area.....Menai Suspension Bridge tests
Post by: SteveH on May 27, 2023, 10:12:11 am
More Menai Suspension Bridge tests means 5 days of disruption for drivers
Tests are being carried out every six weeks on the historic bridge

The next inspection will be carried out between Monday, June 5 and Saturday, June 10. To allow this to take place safely, a lane will need to be closed. During the lane closure, access to the bridge will be controlled by traffic lights. This will allow motorists to continue crossing the bridge in both directions.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/more-menai-suspension-bridge-tests-27001109?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area....A470
Post by: SteveH on May 28, 2023, 10:12:06 am
A man was cut out of a vehicle and taken to hospital after a crash on the A470 at Llandudno Junction today. It happened shortly before 11.20am. 27th May

Police, fire and ambulance crews were at the scene of the two-vehicle collision. The road was blocked while emergency services dealt with the incident

A Welsh Ambulance Service spokesperson confirmed they took one person to Ysbyty Glan Clwyd, Bodelwyddan, following the crash. There was one ambulance at the scene.

A North Wales Fire and Rescue Service spokesperson said there were two engines from Llandudno and Colwyn Bay sent and cutting equipment was used to release a casualty. Earlier a North Wales Police statement said: "Police are currently dealing with a road traffic collision on the A470 between the Black Cat roundabout and the turn off for Marl Lane Llandudno Junction.

"Traffic is building please find an alternative route. Thank you for your patience."

The road was fully reopened by 1.45pm. There were no further details on the man's condition.  ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on May 31, 2023, 11:45:59 am
Line of tow trucks at Snowdonia beauty spot ensures illegal parking message heard loud and clear
The number of vehicles towed away fell dramatically over the late May Bank Holiday compared with Easter


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/snowdonia-illegal-parking-message-finally-27023186
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 01, 2023, 10:11:41 am
THE Llandudno Junction flyover will be closed to traffic for 16 days from Monday, 19 June while contractors complete the ongoing refurbishment work.

This is to allow safe working for reconstructing the road and replacing the bridge expansion joint by the flyover bus stops.

The council is working with the North and Mid Wales Trunk Road Agent to use the closure to carry out other essential maintenance along Conway Road.

This will avoid any further road closures on this stretch in the near future.

MORE: Trip down Narrow Lane at new Llandudno Junction housing development

During the closure, traffic will be diverted via the A55 and Conwy tunnel, with vehicle access to Conwy via Junction 17.

Non-motorway traffic restricted from using the A55 will need to travel via the A470 to cross at Tal y Cafn or find alternative means of transport.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23559167.conwy-council-close-llandudno-junction-flyover-16-days/
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on June 04, 2023, 08:27:21 pm
Caravan season is upon us!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 05, 2023, 10:43:42 pm
This type of thing is happening too often and it's time that the authorities did something about it


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/scene-devastation-iconic-conwy-bridge-27060765
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 05, 2023, 10:50:12 pm
King's Drive in Colwyn Bay is not the safest road in the area and there have been a number of crashes on it over the years,     Not so long ago I witnessed a car that had mounted the kerb and crashed into a stone wall.   In fact the wall which is just below the Old Highway has still not been repaired  and could be a danger to pedestrians



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-called-serious-27059848
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 08, 2023, 06:06:51 am
Drivers face seven-mile diversion after Llanrwst bridge damaged again in crash
Llanrwst's Pont Fawr will close for repairs next week



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drivers-face-seven-mile-diversion-27074203
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on June 08, 2023, 11:34:21 pm
King's Drive in Colwyn Bay is not the safest road in the area and there have been a number of crashes on it over the years,     Not so long ago I witnessed a car that had mounted the kerb and crashed into a stone wall.   In fact the wall which is just below the Old Highway has still not been repaired  and could be a danger to pedestrians
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-air-ambulance-called-serious-27059848

I don't know the exact spot where the accident happened but it could well be where Oak Drive crosses the main road of King's Drive.
I went down King's Drive today and there was a massive skid mark across the road  which can only have come from Oak Drive.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 20, 2023, 10:00:11 am
'Open mind' on a third Menai crossing but transport minister says they don't currently have the cash
Progress on a third bridge or alternative crossing was halted in the roads review

Lee Waters, Deputy Minister for Climate Change, who has responsibility for transport, was asked whether a third crossing was still on the table. He said all options would be considered but he added that the Government did not currently have the ?400m needed to pay for a crossing.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/open-mind-third-menai-crossing-27140887 :occasion5:
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 23, 2023, 10:10:47 am
Conwy Council accused of failing to engage with public over 20mph speed limits
The council has nominated just 10 roads for exemption from the new limits

Conwy Council has failed to engage with communities about which roads will remain 30mph when the new default 20mph speed limit is introduced, a concerned councillor said. During a question-and-answer session with cabinet members, Llandudno councillor Louise Emery questioned why Conwy had not held a public consultation about speed limit changes.

The Welsh Government is introducing a default 20mph speed limit on 30mph roads, and the change is set to come in on September 17, unless exceptions are made locally. It?s hoped the reduction will save lives where cars mix with pedestrians and cyclists.

Councils can make exceptions to the 20mph rule, but Conwy Council has chosen to nominate just 10 such 30mph roads, and so far, only councillors and town and community councils have been informed which. Cllr Emery says a full public consultation was the proper way forward, as had been done in Gwynedd.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-council-accused-failing-engage-27178429?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 28, 2023, 07:55:17 am
Chief constable explains police's approach to new 20mph speed limits in North Wales
The law change is set to come into force on September 17, unless exceptions are made locally

North Wales Police?s highest ranking officer has warned that drivers caught speeding over 30 mph in new 20 mph zones could face tough penalties. But Chief Constable Amanda Blakeman admitted that a period of "grace and education" would be needed to support people and communities through what she described as a "significant" change in road rules.

Speaking at the North Wales Police and Crime Panel meeting at Bodlondeb, Conwy, Chief Constable Blakeman took questions from members of the panel where she explained the police's planned approach once the law changes. The Welsh Government is set to introduce a new default 20-mph speed limit on 30-mph roads.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/chief-constable-explains-polices-approach-27208173?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on June 28, 2023, 03:13:01 pm
I'm not sure why there was a need to close down the incoming traffic to Llandudno from using the stretch of dual carriageway below Penrhynside but the result is chaos with only one major route via the A470 left open for use. The signage is pathetic with traffic arriving at the bottom of the hill only to turn back to use the Glanwydden Lane roundabout, The queue to the A470 roundabout stretches back to Glanwydden .
Looks like you are encouraged to leave Llandudno but not visit at the moment!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on June 30, 2023, 10:40:45 am
THE LLANDUDNO Junction flyover is set to reopen next week, with work on the final phase underway.

The main surfacing work is now finished, and contractors have begun work on installing movement joints.

The Council expect the road to be open by the evening of July 5, with the inner lane of the Weekly News roundabout to remain closed for several days.

However, all roads leading to and from the roundabout will be fully accessible.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: ?Thank you for your patience while we carry out this essential work.?
Title: Re: Roads in the area...Three vehicle crash on A470 last night
Post by: SteveH on July 05, 2023, 09:17:32 am
A lot of chat last night over traffic jams into and out of the Llandudno area, heres the story........

Four people have been taken to hospital following a three vehicle crash in Conwy yesterday afternoon (Tuesday). It happened on the A470, which was partially closed between the Esgyryn roundabout and the main Black Cat roundabout at Llandudno Junction, at around 4.15pm.

Police, fire and ambulance crews were at the scene. Motorists were urged to avoid the area, while emergency services dealt with the incident.

The collision impacted traffic on the A55. Eastbound traffic was temporarily held at J17 Conwy Morfa, for a time, to manage levels through the tunnels. Vehicles were also batched through at Pen y Clip and Penmaenbach Headland.

A Welsh Ambulance Service spokesperson said: "We received a call at 4.15pm and responded with an ambulance officer, a Charu (Cymru High Acuity Response Unit) and two ambulances. Four people were taken to the Ysbyty Glan Clwyd and Ysbyty Gwynedd hospitals."

A North Wales Fire and Rescue Service spokesperson confirmed they had two engines at the scene, from Llandudno and Colwyn Bay and "made the scene safe".          ref DP
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 06, 2023, 09:41:33 am
THE LLANDUDNO Junction flyover is expected to be reopened by 9pm this evening (July 5).   ref pioneer

Council contractors are expected to finish surfacing work and installing movement joints by this evening (Wednesday, July 5).
Title: Re: Roads in the area..........Menai Bridge
Post by: SteveH on July 07, 2023, 09:44:01 am
Two year lane closure on Menai Bridge for major overhaul
The second phase of work will see new permanent hangers installed

Welsh Government announced the work will begin on Monday September 4 to avoid this year's summer holidays. But it is expected to last until the end of summer 2025 - ahead of the bridge?s bicentenary in January 2026.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/two-year-lane-closure-menai-27268621
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 12, 2023, 10:07:05 am
Crash shuts Conwy road as motorists urged to avoid area
Emergency services are at the scene
A crash has shut a stretch of the A547 between Abergele and Rhuddlan. Police are urging motorists to avoid the area while emergency services deal with the incident.




https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-crash-shuts-conwy-road-27303703


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 15, 2023, 10:14:54 am
Maps of North Wales roads - including the A55 - that will be exempt from 20mph limit
The Welsh Government and three North Wales councils have so far published their exception lists

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/maps-north-wales-roads-including-27306283

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on July 15, 2023, 12:06:17 pm
Wonder if they have thought who is going to police this. 🤔.  They have 20 mph on the estate in Llandudno nobody adheres to that.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 15, 2023, 05:48:23 pm
I see  that Conwy has not yet published a list of the roads affected, but it'll be interesting to see how it affects the main North to South Wales road, the A470
The A470 passes through Blaenau Ffestiniog but there shouldn't be a problem there as even on a good day you won't get up to 20 mph on that congested strip,
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 15, 2023, 06:17:46 pm
Welsh government have spent ?33 million of our money to implement the 20mph limits  ... so they'll be all out to get that that back, although I doubt we will be reimbursed.

The money would have been far better spent on repairing the roads to make them safer to drive on, whether by swerving or cars being damaged due to potholes.

Keep your eyes on the road ahead, and not on your dashboard.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on July 16, 2023, 10:04:09 am
I tried driving from pier to pier at 20mph and this is what happened
New default 20mph speed limit on restricted roads in Wales is only 63 days away

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/tried-driving-pier-pier-20mph-27311636
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 16, 2023, 08:23:09 pm
OK, he drove at those speeds ... but fails to make any mention of how much extra fuel he used by being in a lower gear (and admits his 1.4 engine was struggling) ... or how much extra nasty gases his car put into the atmosphere, causing health issues as well as making global warming hotter.  Those are things that many bleat on about trying to decrease.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on July 18, 2023, 09:43:24 am
That's ?33M (Thirty-three MILLION pounds) that would be far better spent on the NHS.

https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/23657876.welsh-government-give-councils-millions-20mph-switch/

As you would expect, most of the money is not coming to north Wales.

You cannot blame the Conservatives (who seem to get criticised for everything else on this forum) for this total waste of money by the Welsh Labour party, who then moan that the UK government don't give them enough for more important things.

Don't know if this is true, but I have read somewhere that Drakeford doesn't drive!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on July 18, 2023, 11:36:38 am
 :)

The Tories might get blamed, DVT, but that's only because they're responsible for financial allocations. This is the most recent table of percentage allocations:


    Scotland: ?13,881 (17% above the UK average)
    Wales: ?13,401 (13% above the UK average)
    Northern Ireland: ?14,062 (18% above the UK average).


It's clear to see two things immediately: of the three devolved nations of the UK, Wales gets 4 - 5% less than Scotland and N Ireland. Of course, Wales is the only country that has been predominantly Labour for some years.

It's also worth examining the "13% above the UK average)" claim: there's a significant disparity between the areas of England. London has the highest allocation and East Midland the lowest.

In general, however, I agree, that the 33M should absolutely be spent on the NHS, although they need more like several billion.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on July 18, 2023, 04:09:23 pm
DVT. Drakeford does drive but has opted to ride his E bike for personal and round his constituency when he can.   I?m in favour of the 20.  But who is going to police it. 🤔. We haven?t enough police round here as it is. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area......Llandudno A470 speed cut
Post by: SteveH on July 22, 2023, 10:25:01 am
Speed limit set to be cut on A470 dual carriageway in Llandudno
A campaign has been run to improve safety on a section of the road

This comes after a safety campaign following the death of Finnley Jones on this stretch last year. Mrs Finch-Saunders met officials from North Wales Police (NWP) and Conwy County Borough Council (CCBC) at the site.

Conway Road will reduce from 40 mph to 30 mph in September.
NWP will conduct further speed surveys once the new speed limit is in place.
CCBC will investigate adjustment to the radar speed camera currently in operation so that it displays either a capped speed or a safety message once the speed limit is exceeded, rather than the drivers? actual speed.
CCBC to work in partnership with Transport for Wales towards Active Travel improvements which will impact Conway Road

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/speed-limit-set-cut-a470-27370541?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Roads in the area......Llandudno A470 speed cut
Post by: Dave on July 24, 2023, 10:01:40 am
Speed limit set to be cut on A470 dual carriageway in Llandudno
A campaign has been run to improve safety on a section of the road

This comes after a safety campaign following the death of Finnley Jones on this stretch last year. Mrs Finch-Saunders met officials from North Wales Police (NWP) and Conwy County Borough Council (CCBC) at the site.

Conway Road will reduce from 40 mph to 30 mph in September.
NWP will conduct further speed surveys once the new speed limit is in place.
CCBC will investigate adjustment to the radar speed camera currently in operation so that it displays either a capped speed or a safety message once the speed limit is exceeded, rather than the drivers? actual speed.
CCBC to work in partnership with Transport for Wales towards Active Travel improvements which will impact Conway Road

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/speed-limit-set-cut-a470-27370541?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

It's nearly 13 years ago since I started this thread, motivated by an accident at the very spot that claimed another life last year. I may well be incorrect but the only notable accidents on this stretch of road I'm aware of have all involved cars travelling well over the 40mph limit. Will reducing it to 30mph make any difference? I don't think so. Would having a speed camera instead of one that flags up your speed have saved a life ( as was suggested 13 years ago) . In my humble opinion , probably.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 27, 2023, 09:10:41 am
Maps of the Conwy roads that will stay 30mph after new default 20mph limit comes in
The local authority has published its list of 'exception' roads


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/maps-conwy-roads-stay-30mph-27399871
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 27, 2023, 11:44:46 am
I'm all in favour of appropriate speed restrictions but I think those who stick to the new 20 mph limits will find it very frustrating. Perhaps the idea is to try and keep speeds down to well under 30mph in the majority of places and clamp down hard on those that are dangerous? On the other hand some of the current places the Arrive Alive vans are parked look more like money traps than life savers to me.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2023, 12:12:12 am
I've not long driven past a car crash at the King's Drive and Oak Drive cross roads in Colwyn Bay.     It looks like both the cars involved are potential write offs but there were no Police or ambulances at the scene so I hope that no one was seriously hurt in the crash
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on July 28, 2023, 09:03:46 am
I've not long driven past a car crash at the King's Drive and Oak Drive cross roads in Colwyn Bay.     It looks like both the cars involved are potential write offs but there were no Police or ambulances at the scene so I hope that no one was seriously hurt in the crash

I think that road is an accident black spot yet further up they maintain the 30mph limit at the near blind entry across the Old Highway it appears.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on July 28, 2023, 04:25:29 pm
You're spot on there Dave,   I've had a few near misses when I've been travelling down the hill and vehicles have come out of the Old Highway without checking that the road is clear
That crash I saw last night was the second serious crash at that particular spot in the last two months.     I suspect speed, or drink and drugs had some part in the crash
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2023, 04:01:57 pm
The 20 mph speed limits are here next month


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drivers-speeding-new-20mph-zones-27432202
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 01, 2023, 05:13:00 pm
Some conflicting statistics in that ... survey done for the Welsh Government showed 60% in favour of the lower speed limit ... survey by Wales Online showed 825 (8.6%) for and 8770 (91.4%) against.

So who is correct, and do they really think more people are going to walk or cycle as a result?

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 01, 2023, 10:58:15 pm
Like it or not,  I'm afraid that we are stuck with the 20 mph law   You'll have to watch out for the Arrive Alive van at the West End in Glan Conwy if the 20 mph limit is on that stretch of road
I hope that the Welsh Government has given up the idea of a blanket ban on cars parking on pavements as that was bonkers too
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 03, 2023, 04:21:42 pm
Will you slow down for the 20mph speed limit?
Take our poll to tell us how you feel about the new road rules



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/you-slow-down-20mph-speed-27445162
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 04, 2023, 09:56:12 am
Will you slow down for the 20mph speed limit?
Take our poll to tell us how you feel about the new road rules

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/you-slow-down-20mph-speed-27445162

We will have to comply, I suspect they will be making examples of those early speeders, to make their point.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 05, 2023, 09:56:15 am
People 'will get used to' new default 20mph limits in Wales
'It will be a massive change in culture'

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/people-will-used-to-new-27460362
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 05, 2023, 12:25:58 pm
I'm afraid that people will have to get used to the 20 mph limit or they may find themselves banned from driving if they accumulate too many points.
One stretch of road I will be glad to see the 20 mph limit is Llandudno Promenade.    It's a nightmare driving along it especially in the Summer months when people suddenly open their car doors or walk into the road without looking.
I remember years ago, I was driving along the Promenade when a young woman with a group of friends just ran across the road and I had to do an emergency stop to avoid hitting her, thank goodness I wasn't going fast and the conditions were dry or otherwise there could have been a tragic accident
I got out of the car and gave her a piece of my mind but her friends said that it's ok nothing happened, but it could have been so different
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on August 06, 2023, 09:16:50 am
An interesting survey but the 20 mph limit in certain areas will be here soon whether we like it or not



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/asked-3600-people-whether-supported-27464161
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 08, 2023, 11:09:31 am
Has anyone seen the item about fitting red flags to the front of your car - someone in south Wales has come up with the idea!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 09, 2023, 10:17:05 am
Wales' top doctor calls 20mph speed limit 'biggest change in a generation'

Come September 17, Welsh motorists are set to face the "biggest change in a generation" when blanket 20mph speed limits are imposed around many roads in the country. The measure comes from the devolved Welsh Government in a bid to increase road safety and also get people opting for greener modes of travel such as cycling and walking where possible.

Butu, the Wales-wide plan has been met by fury from local residents and even UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, who told North Wales Live during a recent visit to Wrexham that that the reduction to 20mph "doesn't make sense". He said it was "always going to be appropriate in particular areas" but added that the ?cost and complexity? to make the national adjustment was ?not appropriate?.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/wales-top-doctor-calls-20mph-27481148
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 12, 2023, 05:19:40 pm
Llanberis Pass ???
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: mull on August 13, 2023, 11:55:42 am
Unprepared again.

Just like the EV charging, we now find we have not got enough horses and ponies .
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 14, 2023, 10:36:05 am
Unprepared again.
Just like the EV charging, we now find we have not got enough horses and ponies .

ABOUT 50 wild Carneddau mountain ponies will need to find new homes this autumn.                    8)
TV farmer Gareth Wyn Jones, of Llanfairfechan, is asking horse lovers to consider adopting one of the wild ponies.
https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23720428.50-north-wales-carneddau-ponies-seeking-new-homes/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 17, 2023, 10:11:39 am
North Wales county to change some 30mph speed signs 20mph - then back to 30mph
Confused? Other councils are avoiding this approach for this very reason

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-county-change-30mph-27527891


Bus firms on what new 20mph limit in Wales could mean for services
The new law will come into place next month

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/bus-firms-what-new-20mph-27534521
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on August 23, 2023, 09:53:26 pm
Possibly ... ???
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 28, 2023, 09:46:10 am
How much funding each council will get to implement the 20mph speed limit
Gwynedd gets the most money in the north with the total cost coming in at ?20m across Wales

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/how-much-funding-each-council-27604164?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 29, 2023, 09:51:55 am
How Wales became UK?s first 20mph nation and the truth over one commonly made claim
The campaign to lower the limit had support, at least initially, from a political party now vociferously opposed to the scheme

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/how-wales-became-uks-first-27606016
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on August 31, 2023, 10:04:16 am
Camera Club member Paul James shared the photo he took in Trefnant, with the comment "Only in Wales!"

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23756946.drivers-puzzled-conflicting-speed-limit-signs-north-wales-roads/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area...A470 is closed for tree felling this weekend.
Post by: SteveH on September 02, 2023, 09:51:22 am
MOTORISTS will face a diversion when driving through the Conwy Valley when the A470 is closed for tree felling this weekend.

The A470 between the Tal y Cafn junction and the Maenan Abbey Hotel will be shut on Sunday, 3 September for ?essential? tree felling, Traffic North Wales said.

No traffic will be able to pass as heavy plant machinery will take up the entire width of the road.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23761229.a470-conwy-valley-close-in-interests-public-safety/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 03, 2023, 02:04:00 pm
Just another day on the A55


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-updates-a55-delays-after-27643899
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 04, 2023, 10:07:26 am
Nine questions about Wales's new 20mph default speed limit
The countdown is now on to the roll-out of 20mph speed limits across vast parts of the road network in Wales

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/nine-questions-waless-new-20mph-27621627
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 04, 2023, 10:33:46 am
I've just driven to Llandudno from Colwyn Bay and there are major road works going on in Colwyn Road by the Premier Inn .    The traffic queue went as far back as the roundabout at the bottom of Penrhyn Hill
I wonder why they didn't divert the traffic along Bryn Y Bia Road instead as it would have made things a lot easier for everyone
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 04, 2023, 11:11:22 am
I wonder why they didn't divert the traffic along Bryn Y Bia Road instead as it would have made things a lot easier for everyone
Because one of the main things about carrying out road works is to cause as much trouble for motorists as possible - it's in the rule book!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 06, 2023, 08:52:19 am
I tried out the new 20mph on a trip to Rhos, XXXXXXX impossible, stalled twice  :-[, I use manual gears, is it easier with an automatic?


20mph sign vandals rude peel-off numbers to create rude image in latest attack
The signs have been an open invitation to mischief makers across the region
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/20mph-sign-vandals-use-peel-27655936?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


THE minister for Climate Change visited Conwy and claimed the new Wales' 20mph speed limit will create "safer, happier :( quieter streets."
From September 17, 2023, all restricted roads in Wales will be reduced from a 30mph to 20mph speed limit.

Wales' Julie James outlined the benefits during a visit to the walled town.
cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23770001.minister-visits-conwy-outline-benefits-new-20mph-limit/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 09, 2023, 09:15:13 am
Calls for speed limits for cyclists after police stop group riding at almost 40mph
Police stopped a group of cyclists cycling at almost 40mph in a 30mph zone - even though they were technically not breaking any laws

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/calls-speed-limits-cyclists-after-27670548?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 09, 2023, 11:50:55 am
Of course cyclists exceeding the speed limit should be dealt with in the same way as motorists.  Being hit by a bicycle can cause a lot of damage to a pedestrian.  Which is why bicycles should have some form of identification such as number plates, and insurance.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Cambrian on September 09, 2023, 01:43:23 pm
"Wanton or furious cycling" is already an offence under Section 35 of the Offences Against the Person Act of 1861 (as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1948)

Riding in a careless, inconsiderate or dangerous manner is an offence under the Road Traffic Act 1988.

Today's police just don't seem to enforce some laws such as ones against begging or habitual drunkeness which are also still extant.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 12, 2023, 09:53:02 am
Mark Drakeford won't pause controversial 20mph speed limit rollout across Wales
'Spain, which has had this policy in place over recent years, has seen a 20% reduction in urban deaths on the roads'

The controversial new 20mph speed limit in Wales will save lives and money, the First Minister has insisted, as he rejected calls to pause the rollout for residential roads. Mark Drakeford said cutting speed from 30mph to 20mph would protect lives and claimed it would save the NHS in Wales ?92 million a year.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mark-drakeford-wont-pause-controversial-27694289
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 15, 2023, 01:46:12 pm
Four 20mph teething problems expected as minister admits 'it won't be flawless'
The law making 20mph the default speed limit in Wales changes on Sunday

The move has been divisive, with others arguing the change will impact the economy. From Sunday, the number of roads which are 30mph will change from 37% to 3%.

GoSafe has admitted that not every speed camera is ready for the change. Cameras which exist in areas where the speed limit is changing from 30mph to 20mph need to be checked in person to make sure the camera is configured correctly and the surrounding signs are correct and tickets can be issued legally.

However, there is some confusion about the education process. During the first 12 months of the scheme, GoSafe say it will be pushing for an education-first approach. While that is obviously possible if a driver is stopped by a person be it a police officer, fire officer or community group, fixed speed cameras do not offer the same approach.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/four-20mph-teething-problems-expected-27718391
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 16, 2023, 03:06:17 pm
Month long A470 roadworks to start on North Wales stretch next week
Carriageway resurfacing will take place on the A470 between Llanrwst and Betws-y-Coedhttps   


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/month-long-a470-roadworks-start-27727257



Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 16, 2023, 04:36:59 pm
Maybe a bit late, but ...

https://action.conservatives.wales/stop-20mph-speed-limit/

... Labour voters can also sign it (and should)!!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 17, 2023, 09:24:34 am
There seems to be some significant confusion here in Wales ahead of tomorrow's Speed Limit change and so, I thought I would help by briefly explaining how the change works so that there can be no confusion:

Any roads that were previously 30 will now be 20 apart from the roads that aren't going to be 20, which will still remain as 30.

When you see street lights you have to assume that the roads will be 20 even if the signs still say 30 because despite the signs saying 30, the roads could be 20, apart from, of course, the roads (as explained above) which will remain 30 despite them being 20.

It's also important to remember that there will still be a number of roads which despite them having streetlights will not be 20, and in these cases they could be 30, 40, 50, 60 or even 70, however, always bear in mind that even if the signs on these roads still state 30 they could, of course, be 20 unless they are one of the roads that have been designated 30, in which case the 20 restriction will not apply.

I trust that clarifies. It's really not difficult.

Happy driving
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2023, 11:09:58 am
There seems to be some significant confusion here in Wales ahead of tomorrow's Speed Limit change and so, I thought I would help by briefly explaining how the change works so that there can be no confusion:

17 September 2023
​20mph speed limit starts Sunday 17 September
From 17 September 2023, the default speed limit in built-up areas in Wales will reduce from 30mph to 20mph. This includes roads where streetlights are placed no more than 200 yards apart.2 days ago

I hope that you haven't had a last minute burn out on the A470  thinking that it all starts tomorrow      ;)


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: hollins on September 17, 2023, 01:12:52 pm
Read this article and DVT's explanation but still totally confused!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66774379
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 17, 2023, 03:25:53 pm
A55 diversion as dual carriageway to close in one direction tonight      There will be two nights of closure for the Eastbound lanes
The A55 will close in one direction for two nights for a structural assessment. Work will start tonight on a stretch of road between Junction 24 at Abergele and Junction 25 at Bodelwyddan.

The second closure takes place next month on the night of October 1. The eastbound lanes of the road will shut at Abergele from 10pm this evening.

Traffic heading eastbounds will be diverted off on to the A547 and A525 before re-joining the A55 at Junction 27 St Asaph. It will be the same times on October 1.


 

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-diversion-dual-carriageway-close-27731277
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on September 17, 2023, 04:30:52 pm
Went for a meal at Craigside (on the Little Orme) where the speed limit past there is still 40mph.  As you drop down to Llandudno Prom it goes to 20mph so cars are braking.  There was then a slow line of cars along the Prom past the paddling pool.  It was like driving in a funeral procession.

I also found that driving some distance on a clear road (Glanwydden Lane from Pydew turning to the main road) at 19mph I realised I was looking around at the scenery instead of concentrating on the road ahead.  I have found that my car has a button on the steering wheel that can be pressed to set the maximum speed, but not good when you accelarate back up to speed as it won't let you without cancelling.  Having had the car nearly five years I'd never used that feature before!

This limit does not help fuel economy or emissions, and I cannot see how it will save lives as long as pedestrians don't try crossing the road in front of a slow moving car, whereas they would stand back if car going a little quicker.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 19, 2023, 08:51:54 am
I guess there was no need to introduce a 20mph limit if folk had adhered to 30mph in the first place, and then used common sense in populated streets etc but unfortunately that was never going to happen. Cars travelling at 30+ mph in Mostyn St was not usual but did happen often enough, likewise driving along the prom at 40mph is madness when it's busy. Consequently we are where we are and it's no doubt going to stay. We have to get used to it.
Driving from C-Y-D to Penrhyn Bay and back was indeed interesting yesterday and I too felt like I was in a funeral procession driving along the empty prom !
One thing I don't agree with though is the announcement that drivers will get off with a warning if caught speeding for the first 12 months ( other than driving through fixed speed cameras apparently) I think this gives a licence to those who choose to prefer speed over safety to carry on with what I have already witnessed as aggressive driving by a minority. I think an attendance at a speed awareness class might make help them change their minds that at least they will be inconvenienced in time if nothing else!
I think most of us break the rules on occasion, usually when we feel it's safe to do so but that is also arrogance on our part too. I have had three convictions for speeding in 50 years and over a million miles of driving. The last one was a few years ago when they introduced a 40mph average speed limit on the A55 at Abergele while a fence was being erected ....I'm sure most will remember where. Returning from holiday abroad at 2.00am on a Sunday morning I didn't see the speed camera warning and was caught averaging 48mph. I felt aggrieved as I had my headlights on full beam, could plainly see no one was working there, and I was the only car on the road but how was I to know if someone was out there on foot checking the work in progress etc? I elected to go on a speed awareness course which were fully booked with identical culprits it seemed. Most were still aggrieved at what they decided was clearly a money making racket. The course was very informative, highlighting amongst other things the most dangerous types of road for both fatal and non fatal accidents. It has changed my attitude I have to admit. It also highlighted the ignorance of so many who think motorways are the most dangerous roads.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 19, 2023, 09:39:13 am
There's a petition to get the repeal of the 20 mph limits going around that is gaining numbers rapidly. I'm not going to sign it until something is done to make drivers more responsible. At the moment the ones that leave a trail of destruction and injuries, even deaths, are very lightly punished in my opinion.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 19, 2023, 10:38:34 am
Dave, you are absolutely correct in what you have said and if all drivers drove in a responsible manner then there would have been no need to introduce this 20 mph limit.
Sadly not all drivers do and those irresponsible people spoil it for the majority of responsible drivers.    I also agree with your comment  regarding the  ones that leave a trail of destruction and injuries, even deaths, are very lightly punished.   We have read about such instances in North Wales this year
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on September 19, 2023, 02:00:02 pm
GoSafe announce the speed they will prosecute drivers at on 20mph roads in Wales
The Welsh Conservatives say the limit sends out 'mixed messages



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/gosafe-announce-speed-prosecute-drivers-27742796
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 19, 2023, 06:06:47 pm
25 mph keeps traffic moving, and is a safer speed. I think that's a good move.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 21, 2023, 09:40:35 am
The parking move that could be banned under Highway Code change
Many drivers don't even know the new policy is being considered

Changes to the Highways Code are being considered to boost pedestrian safety. One of these could involve parking on pavements.
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/parking-move-could-banned-under-27754371



People from 51 countries including the Vatican sign record breaking 20mph petition
But almost 90% of the 280,000 who have voted so far are from Wales
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/people-51-countries-including-vatican-27751096
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 23, 2023, 09:54:16 am
It's been quite a week in Wales as the roads slowed down and the debate heated up. The biggest change on our roads for a generation was never going to be a smooth ride but the level of opposition has been striking.

A petition set up calling for the limit to be "rescinded" has topped 370,000 - over 10% of the nation's population. There have been accusations that it's been hijacked by "dark forces" and yes there have been signatures from other countries and probably a few who've signed more than once. But this shouldn't take away from the fact the change has triggered a huge negative response from those living in Wales.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/news-opinion/wales-cant-change-20mph-now-27755220?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on September 28, 2023, 10:03:28 am
THE PETITION opposing the 20mph speed limit change in Wales is continuing to gather signatures.

As of Sunday, September 17, the majority of residential roads in Wales have changed from 30mph to 20mph.

The Welsh Government says the move will help save lives and also hope that it can encourage people to walk or cycle to work.

But, as with during the trial period in areas like Buckley, the change has been met with strong opposition throughout Wales.

A petition against the change has so far gathered over 438,000 signatures (correct at time of writing).

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23818354.petition-opposing-20mph-speed-limit-change-keeps-gathering-signatures/


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on September 29, 2023, 05:16:34 pm
Of all those who have signed the petition, I wonder how many would stick to 30 if it was brought back, me included ?
Don't tell anyone but the 20mph limit doesn't bother me in most places. 25mph is quite adequate in built up areas and suburban roads where pedestrians are likely trying to cross and at that speed everyone is a winner.
I don't want to see the Arrive Alive vans parked up where there is little likelihood of any road casualties but rather they should be allowed to be hidden or in unmarked vehicles  and catch those who don't care for the safety of others and drive totally irresponsibly.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 01, 2023, 12:45:09 pm
Well said Dave.     We have a rather odd situation up here on Colwyn Heights with King's Drive going up the hill from Colwyn Bay to Pen Y Bryn Road.
There is a 20 mph limit on the road until you come up to the Old Highway.   The steep and winding section through the woods has a 30 mph stretch but just before you reach the built up area the speed limit goes back to 20 mph
Coming back down the steep hill section with the 30 mph limit this suddenly changes to 20 mph.     How can you safely change from 30 mph to 20 mph when you are travelling down a very steep section of road.   It just defies any logic or common sense
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on October 04, 2023, 10:16:21 am
THE PETITION opposing the change of speed limit throughout Wales has now passed 450,000 signatures.

As of September 17, the majority of residential roads in Wales have changed from 30mph to 20mph.

The Welsh Government says the move will help save lives and also hope that it can encourage people to walk or cycle to work.

But, as with during the trial period in areas like Buckley, the change has been met with strong opposition throughout Wales.

So much so that a petition against the change has so far gathered 456,266 signatures (correct at time of writing).

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23832193.petition-20mph-still-collecting-signatures/
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 06, 2023, 10:19:26 am
Might have to record it and play on Fast Forward!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 06, 2023, 01:54:52 pm
I drove from Colwyn Bay to Llandudno for the first time since the 20 mph limit was introduced and must admit that it was a driving experience that wasn't that enjoyable.
Going down the promenade in Craig Y Don  I was behind another car and the driver must have been concentrating on not exceeding the 20 mph speed limit.   That is the only explanation I can think of as she was driving along the white line in the centre of the road
Coming back along the road by Llandrillo Technical College I was behind another driver who was sticking religiously to the 20  mph limit when a car overtook the both of us.   Unfortunately the Arrive Alive camera van was not in it's usual place near the College
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: DVT on October 06, 2023, 07:04:45 pm
I went into Colwyn Bay this afternoon and it seemed to me that everyone was driving just as before, sensibly between 25 and 30 ... from West End into town I was following a chap on a bicycle - my speedo was showing 26mph and he was pulling away from me!
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on October 21, 2023, 06:13:16 pm
Speed is not the only factor in serious road crashes and as people on the forum have pointed out it is usually the fault of bad or reckless driving that is to blame.
I have driven up and down King's Drive in Colwyn Bay thousands of times over the years and never seen anything like I witnessed on Friday.
I was driving up the 20 mph section and the bin lorry in front of me shot off doing well over the speed limit but after the Old Highway section which has a 30 mph section I caught up with the bin lorry.   This was only because in front of the bin lorry was a road sweeping vehicle that was doing just 5 mph.
If anyone is familiar with this road they will know that towards the top of the road there is a very sharp left hand blind bend.    This is followed almost immediately by a sharp right hand blind bend and just before the first left hand bend the driver of the bin lorry started his overtaking maneuver.
We couldn't believe our eyes and even on the second blind bend the bin lorry was on the wrong side of the road.     As luck would have it no vehical was coming down the hill so no crash occurred
I had my dash cam on and would gladly have handed it to the Police but as a collision didn't happen I decided not to hand it over.
 
Title: Re: Roads in the area......LIVE: A55 completely closed...Conwy
Post by: SteveH on October 28, 2023, 09:50:37 am
LIVE: A55 completely closed in one direction after 'serious' crash
Drivers are being warned to expect delays with a massive diversion set up

A serious crash on the A55 has closed the road completely in one direction.
The collision has taken place between Penmaenmawr and Conwy.

It has seen the eastbound lanes closed by police.

cont live https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-completely-closed-one-28000567?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


Welsh Government confirms when 20mph enforcement will begin
There has been a 'grace period' since the new default limit came into force in Wales

Now deputy climate change minister Lee Waters has said that the "grace period" was coming to an end and Welsh Government confirmed enforcement would start in December. He announced this at the Senedd's climate change committee

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-government-confirms-20mph-enforcement-27991378?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area......LIVE: Updates as Storm Ciar?n hits North Wales
Post by: SteveH on November 02, 2023, 10:35:17 am
 Updates as Storm Ciar?n hits North Wales

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/23896267.live-updates-storm-ciaran-hits-north-wales/

9:16am
Conwy County Borough Council 'clearing road drains'
"We have gully tankers clearing road drains as well as teams checking and clearing culverts and watercourses.
"This is ongoing work, not just before forecasted bad weather."
Title: Re: Roads in the area...........Rhos on Sea prom closure
Post by: SteveH on November 04, 2023, 10:12:00 am
RHOS-ON-SEA promenade is set for further closures this month as the final road surfacing work is completed.

Surface work will begin on November 7, with the The West Promenade/Cayley Promenade junction (the Colwyn Bay end) to close on Wednesday, 15 November.

Rhos Promenade will be closed from opposite Harlequin Theatre to Combermere Gardens on November 16 and 17.

Bus stops will be temporarily relocated while the work is ongoing.

This is for the final part of road surface work, as the extensive work on the sea defence and promenade rejuvenation project nears an end.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: "Our contractors are laying the final road surface at Rhos on Sea promenade from Tuesday, 7 November, for two weeks.                       ref pioneer

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 05, 2023, 09:58:46 am
What North Wales Live readers had to say about 20mph speed limit in our survey
One survey participant branded the move 'a shambolic piece of legislation'

n our poll, readers expressed their views including over 1,240 people who said the new 20mph speed limit had affected their lives for the worse - compared to 53 being happy with the legal change that came into force in September.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-north-wales-live-readers-28042787?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on November 10, 2023, 10:05:04 am
Welsh politicians faced fresh fury for spending more than ?30 million on changing the speed limit to 20mph when ?the NHS is dying?.

Wales became the first nation in the UK to adopt 20mph as the default limit on restricted roads ? prompting widespread fury.

And Senior Labour MP Chris Bryant and Plaid Cymru leader Liz Saville Roberts came under fire tonight from members of the public on Question.

Welsh First Minister Mark Drakeford, praised by Labour deputy leader Angela Rayner during the party's conference in Liverpool, has come under mounting criticism for the scheme.

One raged: ?I'm speaking on behalf of nearly everybody in Wales

cont https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1833441/Wales-20mph-fury-Question-Time?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on November 10, 2023, 01:10:01 pm
I have only watched a few snippets of last night's Question Time but I would have loved someone to pick up Liz Saville on why she had driven to Llandudno from Crewe. The North Wales connection is appalling. The other week my Grandson found himself stranded in Crewe as the connecting service to Chester was abandoned and I had to go and pick him up. There was no forewarning until he had boarded the train in Euston when the announcer said there was no connection service and you were on your own from there. What service is that? It was the last train of the evening, what was he meant to do? Luckily he had a Grandparent willing and able to go fetch him in appalling weather conditions, but not appalling enough for the rail company to not put on a coach connection between Crewe and Chester .

Re the 20MPH limit Chris Bryant mentioned that the road he had driven in to Llandudno on had quite rightly been reduced from 40mph to 30mph as a result of fatalities on that stretch of road. I wish someone had asked the question about what speed most accidents have happened at in what were 30mph roads, certainly in terms of the one mentioned they vehicles were driving at at least twice the speed limit as we know.

I'm in favour of 20mph in appropriate areas as I'm sure most are. I appreciate that we will all likely drift a few miles over the limit if we are not careful so 30 can become 35 and therefore 20 becoming 25 isn't such a threat to pedestrians and cyclists and should a collision occur, the injuries not as severe. Sensible local interpretation of these new limits is what is missing as well as more effort to adhere to appropriate speeds. I was enraged the other day when I was overtaken on Queens Drive C-Y-D by a red BMW that had tried to overtake me on the outside lane of the roundabout approaching the beginning of said road before thinking twice at this stupid manoeuvre. By the time I had got to the front of Blind Veterans he was a pair of distant tail lights beyond the park. The speed limit had no consequence to that entitled driver.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Cambrian on November 10, 2023, 04:41:40 pm
Dave, very good point.  I have I think mentioned previously is not just Avanti's extremely poor service but TfW are also culpable.  I think there is one through service from North Wales to Crewe on TfW per day and that is for stock movement purposes rather than for passengers' convenience.

In BR and First North Western days, trains from North Wales to Birmingham generally - if not always - went via Crewe and Stafford thus providing good connections to London, West Country, Scotland and the East Midlands. There was a separate service from Chester to Birmingham via Wrexham and Salop.  The Wales & Borders franchisees came under political pressure to avoid travelling through England and provide more services to Cardiff and the exotic destinations of Maesteg and Carmarthen etc., hence the cessation of the Birmingham service via Crewe and reliance on a shuttle from Chester which only allows about 5 minutes to cross the bridge at that station if eastbound. 
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 28, 2023, 05:08:58 pm
The Welsh road where the speed limit changes eight times along two-mile stretch
The number of speed limit changes have increased following the controversial introduction of default 20mph limits


That road is in South Wales but I wonder if any road in North Wales can beat it?      King's Drive in Colwyn Bay has only 3 changes but that's in less than half a mile           ???

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-road-speed-limit-changes-28187233
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on November 29, 2023, 06:06:58 pm
Conwy road to close for over three weeks for gas works to take place
The road linking Tal-y-Cafn to Ty?n-Y-Groes will shut next month



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-road-close-over-three-28196508
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 01, 2023, 10:37:19 am
A55 stretches to close next week as support given to affected businesses
A Conwy Valley road will also see a lengthy closure extending beyond Christmas   


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-stretches-close-next-week-28201657




Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 03, 2023, 11:49:27 am
Where enforcement of 20mph speed limit is and isn't taking place in Wales right now
GoSafe gave North Wales Live an update on its enforcement programme

They could do with having a Go Safe vehicle in Upper Colwyn Bay as some motorists are just bombing along without due care and attention.     Just the other day when I was walking my dog on a very narrow stretch of a lane, a car came towards me travelling at about 45 mph and accelerating.      The road conditions were good and perhaps I was wrong to do it but I then walked in the centre of the road and gestured for the young male driver to slow down, which he did thankfully.    If only the Arrive Alive van was there then the driver would have had  the fine he deserved

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/enforcement-20mph-speed-limit-isnt-28199283
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 12, 2023, 06:46:03 pm
Road shut due to crash as drivers urged to avoid area
Emergency services are currently at the scene dealing with the crash


Mrs H was driving home from Rhyl just after the crash and she said that a number of vehicles seemed to be involved and the tail back of traffic was as far as Borth Cross Roads


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-road-shut-due-crash-28276627
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 13, 2023, 06:33:41 pm
Still no fines for breaking 20mph limit in North Wales as poll shows support drop
The new limit is less popular than when it was introduced in September, according to data


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/still-no-fines-breaking-20mph-28280333
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 15, 2023, 12:22:20 pm
What expert commission said about road charging in North Wales and Britannia Bridge toll
The North Wales Transport Commission is looking at transport across the region

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-expert-commission-said-road-28289398?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 17, 2023, 10:29:40 pm
Drivers who break Welsh 20mph speed limit facing fines from today
Anyone caught breaching the limit today could be hit with a bill after a soft roll-out to the controversial new policy in September



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drivers-who-break-welsh-20mph-28305676
Title: Re: Roads in the area.........Marine Drive Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on December 21, 2023, 10:13:23 am
I hope the resident who caused this is held to account, it was blatantly a dangerous project.

A ROAD from Llandudno to the West Shore has fully reopened after months-long partial closure due to excavation work.

Marine Drive is now fully open to traffic from the toll gate to West Shore after work was carried out at a neighbouring property.

Work started in September, and the road was gradually reopened, firstly to residents and cyclists, and then for vehicles up to a certain point.

A Conwy County Borough Council spokesperson said: "Marine Drive, Great Orme, Llandudno is now fully open to traffic all the way from the toll gate to West Shore.         ref pioneer
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 21, 2023, 12:30:59 pm
Somehow I think that the resident who did the damage will not be paying and it is us the ratepayers who will have to pay for the repair work.
I  spoke to a builder who had seen the repair work for himself and was not impressed by the standard of work that had been carried out.  At least the road is now open which is something.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: norman08 on December 21, 2023, 02:32:48 pm
Hi Hugo. Yes will be very interesting who pays for that,, will they pay or will the card come out if you know what I mean. Or will us CT payers pay,,,  brother will be happy not having to go right round now.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 22, 2023, 12:15:57 am
You know who the culprit is for causing this problem Norman so you won't get any money from them on a voluntary basis.    Because of this I think CCBC will cut their losses and pay for the work themselves rather than go through an expensive court case
My brother did look at the repair job and wasn't very impressed with it
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on December 22, 2023, 10:29:33 am
MORE misery is planned for motorists next year when a one-way system is implemented between the Tesco roundabout and A55 Junction 18.

Conwy County Borough Council have received a request from ERF Consultancy to arrange the temporary traffic regulation. The notice states the regulation will be in place for more than 11 months - during January 22 2024 and December 31 2024.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24004162.road-near-llandudno-junction-tesco-roundabout-one-way/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 22, 2023, 02:38:49 pm
Mrs H was driving to Llandudno to do the shopping early this morning and traffic was light in Crigside at that time of the day.   Then unexpectedly she saw a Police car parked up but wasn't sure they were checking on motorists speeds or not but we'll soon find out in the New Year if a ticket arrives
On TV this week a senior Welsh Police Officer said that the 10% rule plus 2 mph applies so that would mean that anything over 24 mph could result in a fine or alternatively a speed awareness course.    If that's the case then the Police will be swamped with driving courses
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 24, 2023, 03:17:44 pm
Hi Hugo. Yes will be very interesting who pays for that,, will they pay or will the card come out if you know what I mean. Or will us CT payers pay,,,  brother will be happy not having to go right round now.

A friend sent me this photo from facebook showing the problem that the excavation caused.      The fault obviously lies with the owner of the property, but will he pay for his mistakes?        Somehow, I don't think so. :o       


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 26, 2023, 07:33:55 pm
The 'extraordinary' Boxing Day flood that turned the A55 into a river
Boxing Day 2015 saw 32 flood alerts across North Wales as the deluge devastated communities

I used to pass this spot on my way to Bangor every day and there was always a flood warning sign there.    Since I retired years ago they have spent millions of pounds on flood drainage schemes so that this type of thing would never happen again, but it has!

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalgia/looking-back-extraordinary-boxing-day-25817153
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 28, 2023, 02:33:50 pm
A55 eastbound stretch shut as van topples onto its side
Police are at the scene of the incident near the Penmaenbach headland.     I wouldn't like to be crossing over the Brittania Bridge in this weather either
It's bin day in Colwyn Heights tomorrow but my bin won't be going out until I see the bin lorry here in the morning

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-eastbound-stretch-shut-28358745
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 28, 2023, 05:52:32 pm
Not long after I posted the above message, a friend rang and said that her daughter was stuck in the tailback of traffic and there was no way of avoiding this area.
I seem to remember that the authorities at enormous expense removed the central reservation barriers and replaced them with a barrier that could be removed in order to allow the traffic to continue flowing by using one lane of the opposite carriageway
The scheme was such a success that in the first 18 months the barriers were never used!        :roll:
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on December 30, 2023, 10:36:45 am
Another crash in the same area on the A55 stretch blocked due to crash as long delays build
Traffic Wales has warned drivers to expect queues on the stretch



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-stretch-blocked-due-28366998




Title: Re: Roads in the area...........A470 'active 'travel' changes
Post by: SteveH on January 02, 2024, 09:21:57 am
Weeks of roadworks on A470 as crossings set to be installed on busy stretch
Council has secured funding for the 'active travel' changes on the A-road that links north and south Wales

There are set to be several weeks of roadworks on a busy stretch of the A470 for 'active 'travel' changes to be made. Signs have been erected warning of 12 weeks of work on the section between Llandudno Junction and Llandudno.

It is due to start next week and continue until late March. The work is between the Narrow Lane roundabout and the Marl Lane roundabout and is to improve 'active travel' routes to make it easier for people to walk and cycle.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/weeks-roadworks-a470-crossings-set-28372390?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589



Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 04, 2024, 11:02:29 am
A55 major delays after crash shuts carriageway stretch in Conwy -recap
Emergency services are at the scene.   It seems that this is a black spot for accidents


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-major-delays-after-28387161
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 06, 2024, 09:43:02 am
A ROAD in Colwyn Bay is to undergo resurfacing work for 11 days, and is to close at times.

Coed Coch Road will be resurfaced from the junction with Peulwys Lane to south of the junction with Pen-y-Bryn.

Work will take place between January 8 and 19, weather permitting, with the road to close at times.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24031363.old-colwyn-road-set-close-undergo-resurfacing-work/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589


ALSO
'Narrow roads and speed curbs' - what people fear about major active travel plan for Conwy
Early feedback for the multi-million-pound scheme paints a mixed picture

Final plans are being drawn up for a multi-million-pound active travel route through the Conwy Valley. A shortlist of options is being fine-tuned but already the concept is causing nervousness among motorists.

The planned route, from Llandudno Junction to Betws-y-Coed, will be designed to enourage more walking and cycling. While some people are excited by the idea, drivers fears the potential implications.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/narrow-roads-speed-curbs-what-28396965?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 06, 2024, 10:45:25 am
A55 crash, six vehicles and lorry involved as motorists face major delays
Emergency services are at the scene

A section of the A55 has been blocked after a crash involving six vehicles and a lorry, in Denbighshire.
Traffic Wales warned of the closure between J29 Rhuallt and J30 Pant y Dulath.
The eastbound side of the road is currently blocked causing heavy congestion.
This is a breaking news story and we will bring you all the latest as we get it.



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-stretch-currently-blocked-28400967
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 07, 2024, 09:55:40 am
Welsh Government 'considering options' after A55 crashes and barrier concerns
MS raised fears after nine incidents at Penmaenbach Point where the crash barriers were damaged

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-government-considering-options-after-28400689?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 07, 2024, 11:30:52 am
I seem to remember that when the A55 was in its planning stages it was suggested that two new tunnels would be built.  One for the eastbound traffic and the other was for the westbound traffic but that must have been shelved on account of the cost.
If you look at the A55 you will see that all the work in North Wales has been done on the cheap.     From no hard shoulders to slip roads and roundabouts it has all been done cheaply.
I seem to remember a 30 mph sign just before the tunnel and the bends but as I haven't driven that way for a while I don't know whether that 30 mph limit is still in force.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 07, 2024, 03:45:34 pm
Enforcement of Wales' default 20mph limit will begin this month
The 'most dangerous' drivers will be prosecuted but 'roadside engagement' will be available for others
"At the start of November, 2023, GoSafe restarted enforcing the speed limit in areas where 20mph had been in place before September, 2023. From January, 2024, GoSafe will begin enforcing the new default 20mph speed limit as it rolls out Operation Ugain across Wales.?

According to GoSafe, when enforcement of the speed limit on existing 20mph roads restarted in November, 95 offences were found in total. The average speed offence was 28.3mph and the highest speed offence was 37mph.          :o

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/enforcement-wales-default-20mph-limit-28404679
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 08, 2024, 10:15:58 am
THREE months of roadwork misery has started to allow a new cycle and pedestrian route to be created.

The works will take place on Marl Lane and A470 from January 8 until March 30.

Conwy County Borough Council (CCBC) are constructing 'new links' for the cycle and pedestrian route along Marl Lane, the A470 and Narrow Lane.

A spokesperson for the local authority said: "We?ve received Welsh Government funding to improve the route for pedestrians and cyclists on Marl Lane running alongside the A470 and linking to Narrow Lane.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24033589.roadworks-a470-begin-allow-active-travel-changes/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Dave on January 08, 2024, 11:08:19 am
Crossing the A470 on that stretch on foot or a bike is a nightmare and dangerous but as there is a public footpath crossing you'd have thought someone might have thought about that when they built the road.
If the Welsh Government have their way we will all be on bikes soon
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 11, 2024, 10:00:10 am
Welsh councils draw up lists of roads to return to 30mph because 20mph 'doesn't feel right'
Deputy minister for climate change Lee Waters also said they are considering further tweaks to the guidance for councils on exceptions

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-councils-draw-up-lists-28425412
Title: Re: Roads in the area.......A55 shut in both directions at Bodelwyddan
Post by: SteveH on January 13, 2024, 08:57:20 am
LIVE: A55 shut in both directions as police warn of delays
Emergency services are at the scene

The A55 is closed in both directions at Bodelwyddan, Denbighshire., police have warned. There are reports of crash in the area.

Emergency services are at junction 25 of the North Wales Express Road. The junction itself is closed, as well as the A55.

North Wales Police are warning drivers to expect delays.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-shut-both-directions-28440360?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 13, 2024, 11:29:53 am
More crashes  on the A55  and the A55 is shut in both directions as police warn of delays - recap
Emergency services are at the scene


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-shut-both-directions-28440360
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 13, 2024, 02:08:51 pm
'Dangerous' roundabouts to be removed from road

I have driven down St Asaph Avenue in Kinmel Bay hundreds of times but the first time I encountered these mini roundabouts I thought that they were dangerous and an accident was waiting to happen.
I'm just surprised that they were ever put there in the first place


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gy04rpd13o
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 16, 2024, 09:58:02 am
The force has received complaints from residents and councillors that drivers are using Lon Gwalia / Lon Cymru as a cut through from the A470 before the Links roundabout.

They said the road is "clearly" signed as motor vehicles prohibited, except for access, meaning only those who have a legitimate reason for serving a property on that street may pass the 'No Vehicles' sign.

Using it as a through road is an offence, and may result in prosecution.

A North Wales Police spokesperson said: "Anyone who is using it as a "through road" is committing an offence under the Road Traffic Act.

"We are appealing for motorists to observe the signage as any future vehicles illegally using this route may face enforcement by prosecution
ref pioneer
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 17, 2024, 10:40:53 pm
North Wales anti-20mph Facebook group was run by Tory councillor living in England
Lyall Reed from Sunderland was an admin for four Welsh groups opposing the new limit despite supporting a reduced limit in his own area
           ???     ???

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-anti-20mph-facebook-28462603
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 18, 2024, 03:57:23 pm
LIVE: Multiple A55 crashes as snow and ice create hazardous conditions on North Wales roads
The westbound carriageway has been closed near Abergwyngregyn and there is another collision at Rhos on Sea and there have been a number of collisions elsewhere in the region

It's snowing at the moment on Colwyn Heights and sticking on the road so I would expect there to be a few shunts on the hill if it hasn't been gritted


https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-stretch-shut-due-28471345


Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 21, 2024, 11:08:41 am
'Pre-warning' that A55 over Britannia Bridge expected to close later today due to Storm Isha
Traffic Wales said all vehicles could be banned from Britannia Bridge from around 5pm



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/pre-warning-a55-over-britannia-28485425
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 23, 2024, 09:46:14 am
Drivers facing roadworks misery on 'dangerous' A55 section with three weeks of closures
Safety calls have been made for a stretch of road where there have been 25 accidents in the past 10 months
A notorious accident blackspot on the A55 is to close intermittently for three weeks to enable structural and surfacing repairs. The eastbound carriageway at Penmaenbach headland, Conwy, will experience 24-hour full closures from Sunday, January 28.
When I drove past the spot recently and saw the damage caused to the barriers I woulld have said that it was more to do with bad driving because it was on a virtual straight section of road before the tunnel

Roadworks will operate between junction 16 Puffin roundabout and junction 17 at Conwy Morfa. All eastbound traffic will be redirected via a contraflow through the westbound tunnel at Penmaenbach.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/drivers-facing-roadworks-misery-dangerous-28495055
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on January 24, 2024, 10:12:30 am
20mph data shows compliance gap between north and south Wales drivers
Average speeds in 20mph zones are down across Wales - in some places more than others

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/20mph-data-shows-compliance-gap-28498632?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on January 29, 2024, 10:03:37 am
LIVE - Major Conwy A55 roadworks causing long delays
The works near the Penmaenbach Headland are set to last three weeks



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-major-conwy-a55-roadworks-28528771
Title: Re: Roads in the area..........New 20mph protest convoy
Post by: SteveH on January 31, 2024, 10:02:26 am
New 20mph protest convoy will hug North Wales coast over fears of tourists road rage
Organisers fear the policy's impact will be at its height when the area is flooded with tourists

A new protest convoy is being organised to highlight continued opposition to the default 20mph speed limit in Wales. Running along part of the North Wales coast, it aims to show how congested roads could become when the tourism season gets underway.

Organisers anticipate 50 vehicles will join a cavalcade that will set off from Llandudno and pass through Penrhyn Bay, Rhos on Sea and Colwyn Bay. It will then head to Llanddulas and Abergele before returning via the A547. Participants are being urged to "ramp it up and make some noise".

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-20mph-protest-convoy-hug-28536776
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 03, 2024, 10:15:43 am
Welsh Government launches A55 probe after dramatic rise in blackspot crashes
Four years ago there were no crashes on the eastbound A55 at Penmaenbach. In the last 10 months there have been 25

The Welsh Government has launched an investigation into a notorious A55 stretch following a sharp rise in crashes. An engineering review will also be carried out at Penmaenbach headland on the Conwy coast.

Deputy climate change minister Lee Waters said this could result in ?interventions? to improve safety on this section of road. If implemented, this raises the prospect of lengthy roadworks on a headland already subject to a three-week contraflow.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/welsh-government-launches-a55-probe-28558699
Title: Re: Roads in the area.....roadwork misery have started in Llandudno Junction
Post by: SteveH on February 06, 2024, 09:59:11 am
TEN weeks of roadwork misery have started in Llandudno Junction, near to the Tesco roundabout.

The works,  to "improve road users? safety and active travel routes" around the A55 Junction 18 Llandudno Junction interchange from RSPB Conwy Nature Reserve to the Leisure Park and Llandudno Junction, will be split into nine phases.

Phase one and six will take place between January and March. Further programme details will be released at a later date.

A statement from the Welsh Government, who are behind the works, said: "The works will be split into nine phases, with the majority most of the construction works undertaken on the verge or footway or with off peak daytime lane closures and manned traffic lights. Some phases may be undertaken at the same time.

cont   https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24098920.10-weeks-roadworks-llandudno-junction-get-underway/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 13, 2024, 07:38:16 pm
A55 roadworks to return to headland just four days after contraflow lifted
The latest work at Penmaenbach is expected to cause far less disruption



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-return-headland-just-28622477
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 18, 2024, 10:47:14 pm
A55 roadworks to close stretch of carriageway for a month
Meanwhile tunnel upgrade and resurfacing are also planned



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-roadworks-close-stretch-carriageway-28655423
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 21, 2024, 10:09:31 am
How new 20mph limit changed speeds in cities, towns and villages around Wales

Welsh Government has released data showing the impact of the hugely controversial new default limit

The biggest drop came in the Conwy village of Penrhyn Bay where average speeds in the monitored areas fell by over 6mph to around 24mph.

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/how-new-20mph-limit-changed-28672163
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on February 22, 2024, 09:59:21 am
North Wales council's 20mph speed-limit exemption consultation delayed until autumn
A resident's petition called on Conwy to use its powers to review which roads should be exempt

A public consultation on default 20mph roads in Conwy will have to wait until the autumn, councillors heard. Conwy's cabinet met to discuss an e-petition from residents, calling on the council to use its powers to consult the public on which roads should be exempt from the default 20mph speed limit.

The matter had been discussed at an earlier economy and place scrutiny committee meeting earlier this month, following Welsh Government bringing in the national default 20mph limit in September. Cabinet member for roads Cllr Goronwy Edwards explained the situation.

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/north-wales-councils-20mph-speed-28676334?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 23, 2024, 12:27:41 pm
After having a nice breakfast at the Talgoed Nursery in Glan Conwy we returned to Colwn Bay on the A470  and just a short distance away the traffic had stopped because of a car crash by Nev's Garage.
It looked like a car had gone into the back of a van but there were already two Police cars at the scene but no ambulance was present.   After passing the scene of the accident another Police car with its blue lights flashing  flew past us heading for the accident.    I just hope that no one was badly injured
Title: Re: Conwy councillors asking for feedback on 20mph speed limit
Post by: SteveH on February 28, 2024, 09:49:24 am
Conwy County Borough councillors are asking residents for feedback on the recently introduced 20mph speed limit on residential roads and whether it should be switched back to 30mph.

Wales became one of the first countries in the world, and the first nation in the UK, to lower the default national speed limit on residential roads from 30mph to 20mph in on September 17, 2023.

The Welsh Government said the change in speed limit was introduced to reduce collisions, save lives and reduce injuries.

Full article and details  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/24147191.conwy-councillors-asking-feedback-20mph-speed-limit/?ref=rss&IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589

Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on February 28, 2024, 10:20:09 pm
A55 average speed cameras one of five ideas being considered for 'dangerous' stretch
There has been a dramatic rise in crashes at Penmaenbach in the past three years



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/a55-average-speed-cameras-one-28718782
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 02, 2024, 09:17:11 am
Mobile speed camera locations in North Wales for March 2024
GoSafe mobile speed cameras will out and about again in March

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mobile-speed-camera-locations-north-28729962
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 03, 2024, 10:05:09 am
A fierce debate about driving etiquette has been sparked after a picture of a road sign was posted on social media. Cai Thomas posted a picture on the A55 Traffic, Incidents, Information page showing a sign near Penmaenmawr in Conwy before the Pen-y-clip tunnel work on the expressway.

The sign tells drivers to use both lanes when lining up to go into the single lane around the headland. Lorry driver Cai said some people "can't read a simple sign" and get in the way of others using the outside lane

But not everyone thinks the same way. Some drivers believe it's better to get into one lane early instead of trying to "jump the queue".

cont https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/sign-major-welsh-road-sparks-28743075?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Ian on March 03, 2024, 10:23:42 am
It seems there are no simple (https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/zip-merging/) answers, although studies seem to support (https://blog.greenflag.com/2019/the-zip-merging-debate/) the zip principle.
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 04, 2024, 09:23:24 am
In the past I was the one who blocked the lane, I was driving a 7 tonner at the time, and it seemed like 3 steps forward and 2 back, very aggravating, now it does seem to make sense for zipping............ :-\
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2024, 11:57:22 am
In the past when I travelled home to Colwyn Bay from Bangor there were frequent road works but when the signs said use both lanes I always went in the outside lane so that I could get home asap
One time a lorry sat in the outside lane about half a mile from where the traffic had to merge and it was annoying.    However there was just enough room between the lorry and the central reservation so I overtook the lorry much to the lorry driver's displeasure.    Hope it wasn't you Steve!      ;D
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 04, 2024, 01:21:21 pm
Big green horse box?   :laugh:
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 04, 2024, 06:13:30 pm
That truck that  was Horsing about in the outside lane wasn't green,  but I bet the guy was when I sneaked past him      ;D
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: Hugo on March 05, 2024, 07:27:55 am
A55 bridge repairs will mean diversions for motorists this week
Parapets on the bridge were repaired just 17 months ago
Repairs to an A55 bridge in Denbighshire will cause minor frustration to some motorists this week. Parapet repairs are needed on the Elwy Bridge at junction 27 by St Asaph.
The work will involve a lane closure and diversion but it is not expected to cause too much disruption as it?s being carried out at night. Roadworks will be in place on Wednesday and Thursday nights, March 6-7.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-bridge-repairs-mean-diversions-28750557
Title: Re: Roads in the area......Llandudno
Post by: SteveH on March 11, 2024, 09:38:44 am
A ROUNDABOUT in Llandudno is being cleared from "non-native cotoneaster shrubs".

Roadworks started today (Monday, March 11) on the roundabout off Wormhout Way to allow the clearing operation to take place.

Works will last nearly two weeks; they are set to be completed on Friday, March 22.

A spokesperson from Conwy County Borough Council said: "We're clearing roundabouts on Royal Welsh Way, Wormhout Way and Penrhyn Hill.
The roundabouts feature large non-native cotoneaster shrubs, which are a threat to our local limestone grasslands (with seeds carried by birds).

"We'll replace this with colourful perennial planting which will benefit native pollinators.

"To make sure the cotoneaster has been fully cleared, the roundabouts will be empty for a while, before we put in the new planting scheme in the autumn."

The work is being funded by Welsh Government's Local Places for Nature Fund.

The roundabout has exits for A470 Wormhout Way, Llanrhos, Conway Road and Craig-y-Don.

Roadworks on Narrow Lane / Marl Lane / Royal Welsh Way also continue. These are due to finish on March 29.

Similarly, roadworks from Junction 18 to Cineworld roundabout / Ffordd G6 are due to finish on March 29.
Title: Re: Roads in the area......Points and fines for breaching 20mph limits begin
Post by: SteveH on March 17, 2024, 09:52:58 am
Lowering the speed limit from 30mph to 20mph in built-up areas has been one of the most controversial law changes made by the Welsh government.

It was introduced to save lives and get more people walking and cycling, and so far has been enforced through engagement with the public since January.

But anyone breaking the 20mph limit could face points and fines from Monday on roads where engagement has not worked.

Ministers say the ?34m law, which came into effect six months ago, will reduce deaths on roads.

But it has not proved popular with many, with hundreds of 20mph signs being defaced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4n789jv49jo
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 18, 2024, 09:42:20 am
Update.......

Enforcement of Wales? default 20mph speed limit is being stepped up today (Monday, March 18). Until now, only roads that were 20mph before the law change were being specifically monitored by GoSafe.

The safety partnership will now adding more roads to its monitoring list - these are roads with the new 20mph limit. Some 15 roads impacted and these are shown in the list below.

Anglesey is among the counties initially being targeted, with enforcement officers potentially operating speed cameras on three of the island's roads. It?s important to remember the speed limit applies on many other roads and police officers can enforce any location
Title: Re: Roads in the area
Post by: SteveH on March 25, 2024, 09:59:57 am
The Welsh Government has indicated they will be more open to new road building projects. Under Mark Drakeford and the minister responsible for transport Lee Waters new roads couldn't be built if they led to an increase in capacity. But the new North Wales and transport minister Ken Skates has indicated that this may change under his tenure.

MS for Clwyd South Mr Skates has said that he is open to several projects that had previously been shelved. These include:

The so called "Flintshire corridor" which would include a new 13km two-lane dual carriageway linking the A55-A5119 Northop junction (junction 33) with the A494 and A550 north of Deeside Parkway junction, via Kelsterton interchange and the Flintshire Bridge.
A third bridge over the Menai Strait., linking Anglesey with mainland Wales.

cont https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/road-building-projects-welsh-government-28879295?IYA-reg=49560bcd-5a9c-47f0-8fc5-ba2e71710589