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Ian

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« Reply #825 on: June 02, 2018, 07:48:23 AM »
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Ian, I'm not getting involved in any further pointless discussion on this, Trump has proved conclusively that you can put any slant on any argument you care to, and decades of experience and knowledge obviously cannot change the opinion of an OAP with an internet connection.

I'm not trying to change your opinion, Bosun, but merely attempting to broaden the scope of an argument that threatens to become worryingly myopic. And you can use your internet connection to further expand the parameters of the discussion and to locate all the pertinent information.

Statistics are important - vital, even - if we want to understand what makes our roads dangerous and how to make them safer. Or do you subscribe to a view that says only if you've done something yourself can you possibly know anything about it?

Finally, the comparison with Trump is interesting. 'Putting a slant' on debates is a tactic of the uninformed but refusing to debate further and throwing thinly (or not so thinly) veiled insults is of course, a favourite tactic of Trump's.
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squigglev2

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« Reply #826 on: June 02, 2018, 08:32:47 AM »
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i would rather be hit at 30 mile an hour than at 40 mile an hour, the speed limits are there for a good reason so just learn to live with them and stop trying to justify impatience

I’d guess even that would depend on what hit you. Heavy lorry at 40 or a motor bike at 60?

I think some one questioned static vehicles.  A stationary vehicle on a free flowing motorway certainly can be a hazard and I believe has been accepted as being a contributory factor in serious accidents.

Personally, I consider that a driver who does not keep reasonable pace on a main road is a menace. I know it involves the eventual impatience of another driver but if you get someone “blocking” a good 60mph road by driving at 30. sooner or later, someone is going to try  a dodgy overtaking move.

Of course, to a certain extent, I’m playing devil’s advocate above. There are reasons for speed limits and dangers can be hidden. A common one in this area is that open roads may have quite blind side roads.

Although that particular one (and others) can lead you to also question the possibilities of road improvement...


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« Reply #827 on: June 02, 2018, 10:40:43 PM »
This is the reality --- more bikers killed in N Wales in 2018 than in the whole of 2017


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Ian

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« Reply #828 on: June 03, 2018, 09:13:59 AM »
And these are not young tearaways, either; they're older and more mature than you might expect. But this year's toll is bad; as an ex-biker I wouldn't want to ride on most N Wales roads now as during the next few months they'll be very crowded with people spending more time on watching the scenery than the road.

But on two wheels you're very vulnerable. We were driving the A5 on the Nant Ffrancon some years ago when a biker passed us - not at a huge speed - but then they just seemed to lose control and fall off.  I've also seen a biker lose a foot when an older car with sticking-out bumpers collided with him, another crashing after a car pulled out without a signal or without - apparently - seeing him, another who braked suddenly and lost control - the list goes on.

I'm guessing one problem is the acceleration some of the big bikes can muster; it's so great if the road surface isn't almost perfect the rear wheel can try to overtake the front wheel, with predictable results. 
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cygnusx-1

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« Reply #829 on: June 03, 2018, 07:26:35 PM »
Somebody has caused Abergele Road between the Marine Roundabout and Eirias Park Gates to be closed. They have driven into the bus shelter by Hesketh Road going towards the Bay. Somebody was standing in the shelter but nothing further known.....Oh by the way they did not stop!
 

cygnusx-1

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« Reply #830 on: June 03, 2018, 07:44:01 PM »
And another.....while I  was hanging on to the excitable spaniel!

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« Reply #831 on: June 06, 2018, 06:41:05 PM »
There was a crash on the A470 by the Ty Gwyn Hotel in Betws Y Coed and a coach and car were involved but thankfully it has been reported that there were no serious injuries to anyone.
We were held up there for a while and there was a large Police presence and two fire engines but we couldn't see any ambulance on the scene.

There was a report of another accident on the A5 near Pentrefoelas and one person has been lifted by air ambulance to Stoke Hospital.

Another crash was reorted on the A55 by Abergele but the details are not known



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« Reply #832 on: June 06, 2018, 07:41:58 PM »
Some news on the A5 crash

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« Reply #833 on: June 08, 2018, 01:20:38 PM »
Abergele straits A547 closures you need to know about


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« Reply #834 on: June 19, 2018, 11:10:36 AM »
We all have our own opinions on how we should drive but no one can dispute that what we witnessed this morning was verging on reckless. Leaving Champney's we stopped short of the Links roundabout to allow a pedestrian to cross. He was almost about to step in to the outside lane when a transit style van coming up behind us decided to overtake us ( he could easily see  over the top of our small car) then veer over to the inside lane of the roundabout to make a left turn. Why? Luckily the pedestrian hadn't quite stepped in to his path but would have anticipated he'd stop too as he was in the same lane as us.
So if you see a chocolate brown 65 reg Transit van with no signage on it watch out , the driver is a total idiot.

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« Reply #835 on: June 19, 2018, 01:14:25 PM »
Abergele straits A547 closures you need to know about
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I know it's from the Daily Post so you cannot expect too much accuracy, but surely it should be Abergele Straights ... definition of straits is a narrow waterway connecting two large bodies of water (e.g. Menai Straits, Straits of Bosphorus).  Or is there a large body of water in Abergele and Rhuddlan?  Or am I just being too pedantic?

squigglev2

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« Reply #836 on: June 19, 2018, 02:19:10 PM »
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Or am I just being too pedantic?

Depends on context doesn't is? I don't think you'd pick up a fellow forum poster up for that sort of thing (unless perhaps the result was amusing). But you would expect a newspaper to get it right.

At least that was my initial response but  I notice the BBC also can use "Strait", eg at. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login so, maybe I'm wrong.

 A stretch of road (actually one to be careful on despite its straightness) much closer to me now most definitely is a 'Straight' . You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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« Reply #837 on: June 19, 2018, 03:23:38 PM »
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We all have our own opinions on how we should drive but no one can dispute that what we witnessed this morning was verging on reckless. Leaving Champney's we stopped short of the Links roundabout to allow a pedestrian to cross. He was almost about to step in to the outside lane when a transit style van coming up behind us decided to overtake us ( he could easily see  over the top of our small car) then veer over to the inside lane of the roundabout to make a left turn. Why? Luckily the pedestrian hadn't quite stepped in to his path but would have anticipated he'd stop too as he was in the same lane as us.
So if you see a chocolate brown 65 reg Transit van with no signage on it watch out , the driver is a total idiot.

Dave, I take it that you don't have a dash cam in your car because incidents like that should be reported to the Police.   The Police are actively seeking help from the public and will act on dash cam evidence.

Dave

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« Reply #838 on: June 19, 2018, 10:27:23 PM »
Regrettably not Hugo.

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« Reply #839 on: June 19, 2018, 10:35:22 PM »
That's a shame Dave, I have one on one of my cars and I'm thinking of getting one on the other because of nutters on the road like the one you encountered.