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Offline Hugo

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« Reply #795 on: April 27, 2018, 10:31:41 pm »
There will soon be average speed cameras on the A55 at Rhuallt Hill

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-43920509

There was a two car crash on the A470 in Llandudno this afternoon by the Queens Road roundabout and a motorbike accident on the Bodysgallen stretch of the road



https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/fire-crews-cut-people-free-14587570

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« Reply #796 on: April 28, 2018, 09:53:06 am »
Won't be long before we (motorists) have to employ someone to walk in front of the car carrying a red flag.

And as everyone turn to electric cars the amount of income from fuel tax would be drastically reduced so the government would need to get the money from somewhere - could save paying out dole money as those on benefits could be employed to carry the red flags.



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« Reply #797 on: April 28, 2018, 10:26:17 am »
Steady on DVT,  that idea is far too radical,  fancy suggesting that those poor people should be made to earn their benefits!        Perish the thought.      ;D

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« Reply #798 on: May 06, 2018, 06:38:55 pm »
Normally we don't drive on the A55 on Bank Holidays but today we went to a Baptism in Northop Church.  The eastbound lanes of the  A55 were flowing very well but the westbound lanes were blocked in places.   One of the baby's Godparents was stuck in traffic and couldn't get to the Church in time for the Baptism.  The Vicar was brilliant  and improvised and as he conducted the Baptism, the Godparent was able to give her vows by mobile phone, thank goodness for modern technology.
The rest of the Baptism service went to plan and after the service we all enjoyed a delicious buffet at the nearby Celtic Arms.
The return journey on the westbound lanes was good but there was a crash just past Holywell and the tailback was stretching towards Rhuallt Hill
 

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-a55-tailbacks-amid-bank-14622065

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« Reply #799 on: May 21, 2018, 02:35:41 pm »
North Wales drivers should ALL have Mersey Gateway tolls and fines 'refunded' says lawyer
Solicitor says the tribunal decision means refunds should now be handed out for fines issued before April 19.

A North Wales lawyer says a tribunal ruling on charging on the Mersey Gateway bridge means ALL fines and tolls should be refunded to drivers.

In April the Traffic Penalty Tribunal (TPT) ruled that the tolls were not legally binding because Halton council had not specified the price of the toll charge clearly enough in the Mersey Gateway Road Charging Order (RUSCO).

Independent adjudicator Edward Solomons has now agreed the Charging Scheme employed by Halton Borough Council was not enforceable under the Transport Act 2000.

Thousands of North Wales drivers have paid tolls since the bridge opened in October and hundreds have been hit with fines for failing to pay.

MORE....  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/mersey-gateway-tolls-fines-refunds-14685288

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« Reply #800 on: May 29, 2018, 04:51:05 pm »
A55 average speed cameras at notorious stretch will be switched on this week
The cameras, on the Rhuallt Hill, are being installed after a study found the majority of drivers were speeding.

Traffic Wales has announced that the cameras on Rhuallt Hill will come into use some time in the next few days after a successful period of testing.
They have not specified which day they will be switched on for the first time.

The Welsh Government announced in April that the cameras will be trialled along the downhill stretch of Rhuallt Hill after data collected between March 8 and March 27 found thousands of people breaking the limit.

The radar system collected speed information from 394,326 vehicles and found that 217,642 had been travelling at speeds of more than 70mph on the westbound carriageway.

One interesting comment....... Will these wonderful hi-tech cameras be able to apply a 60mph average speed to caravans & HGVs.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/a55-average-speed-cameras-notorious-14717195

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« Reply #801 on: May 29, 2018, 05:07:27 pm »
We saw nothing when we travelled down Rhuallt Hill about an hour ago.

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« Reply #802 on: May 29, 2018, 08:45:53 pm »
"The radar system collected speed information from 394,326 vehicles and found that 217,642 had been travelling at speeds of more than 70mph on the westbound carriageway."

Over 50% exceeding the speed limit - how does that compare with other stretches of the A55 (and other roads)?  Just out of interest how many of the 217,642 were involved in an accident, and also how many of the remaining 174,684?

When driving I prefer my eyes to be concentrating on what is ahead, and not looking at my dashboard - my driving adjusting accordingly.

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« Reply #803 on: May 30, 2018, 09:17:04 pm »
We saw nothing when we travelled down Rhuallt Hill about an hour ago.

I saw three of them, at various points before and after Rhuallt Hill last Monday when we came home from the Airport.
I’m not sure how you can miss them, tall yellow poles.... plus they had hazard warning signs saying they were currently not operational.
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« Reply #805 on: May 31, 2018, 12:14:03 pm »
It doesn't matter if you are Lewis Hamilton or some old duffer or anyone else either, the speed limits apply to everyone.   

Whether people agree with them or not is irrelevant, they are in force and if anyone breaks them then they can't complain afterwards if they get a fine

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« Reply #806 on: May 31, 2018, 12:53:10 pm »
True, but in the UK laws and Policing are supposed to be enacted 'by consent' or, in other words, generally agreed by most to be in the interests of the people. Speed limits are an interesting case, because it's not true that 'speed kills' in and of itself. Bad driving, carelessness, medical trauma, bad luck, catastrophic failures - all these can be contributory factors but what is interesting is the lack of any incontrovertible evidence that enforcing speed limits makes any real difference.
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« Reply #807 on: May 31, 2018, 12:59:42 pm »
There is a pic in this article about the rhuallt hill speed cameras.....

http://www.rhyljournal.co.uk/news/16257818.Thumbs_up_or_down__Drivers_have_their_say_on_A55_cameras_at_Rhuallt_Hill_crash_hot_spot/

Interesting comments in the above article, I agree with the views on caravans, which are I understand to be a problem, losing control downhill.      (it's a lot easier to correct a mistake going uphill, something I learned a long time ago)  :'(


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« Reply #808 on: May 31, 2018, 01:18:46 pm »
True, but in the UK laws and Policing are supposed to be enacted 'by consent' or, in other words, generally agreed by most to be in the interests of the people. Speed limits are an interesting case, because it's not true that 'speed kills' in and of itself. Bad driving, carelessness, medical trauma, bad luck, catastrophic failures - all these can be contributory factors but what is interesting is the lack of any incontrovertible evidence that enforcing speed limits makes any real difference.


The laws are passed by consent, that's why we elect our MP'S.     The maximum speed in the UK is 70 MPH  but that doesn't mean that you have to do 70 MPH .   You can drive at less than 70 MPH but you know that anything above the speed limit may result in a speeding fine so no one can have any complaint if they are booked
The law is the law and anyone breaking it has to face up to the consequences.

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« Reply #809 on: May 31, 2018, 02:36:57 pm »
....because it's not true that 'speed kills' in and of itself.

No, speed in itself dosen't kill.

It's speed that causes people to be killed.
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