Red lion is brilliant - however it's brilliant because it's in Old Colwyn. If it was in Llandudno it would be rubbish!
Born2Run, I have given your post some thought, and whilst I agree with both your comments - in that the Red Lion is brilliant, and I doubt that it would work the same in Llandudno, however, I'm at a lost as to be able to explain why I don't think it would work, apart from the demographics of clientele. But I'd be rather interested to hear your rationale?