What's Llandudno Like Right Now?

[Yorkie]

     So Mr Williams of the Hospitality Assoc has spoken up and what has he come up with,Llandudno needs a multi-story car park,who would spend millions in Llandudno on a car park ,hope someone tells him there is a new car park going on the station .   

I think we have known since the year dot that Llandudno needs to do something about its traffic problem.  More parking is not the answer.  Parking outside of the town is what we need.   Park and Ride has been spoken of but to my mind not with enough thought.

Llandudno is not the only place with a traffic and parking problem, Colwyn Bay has a lesser problem and Conwy has an increasing problem.

I think a Park and Ride could be set up (and more important a viable solution) by having a P & R system to service all three areas with a circular journey in both directions.   All that is required is a suitable piece of land within the triangle of the Three Towns, such as the strip alongside the A470 between the Junction and  Llandudno.

It could be called the Three Towns Park and Ride!!!   ZXZ   What does everybody else think?   WWW

[SDQ]

It would have to be linked to the A55 somewhere central so what about one of the fields around the Mochdre area?

[Fester]

First, I think that more needs to be built and created to give people a reason to bring their cars here...

Before you build more carparks, build more attractions!

The amount of signs in hotel windows saying 'VACANCIES' in July is pretty alarming.

[Yorkie]

The amount of signs in hotel windows saying 'VACANCIES' in July is pretty alarming.

One of the reasons for this is that since the completion of the A55 Expressway and the M56 Llandudno has become within the day trip limit from as far away as Birmingham and Sheffield etc.   The increase in day trip coach traffic over the past years has been a testament to this.

Irrespective of vacancies in hotels the traffic problem still exists.  Before increasing this problem by attracting more visitors we have to ensure that the infrastructure is in place to cope with the numbers!   Also Llandudno is a centre for tourism in North Wales and it is not just local attractions that bring people here.

[DaveR]

Before we spend all this money, it's worth nothing that car journeys are actually falling in response to high fuel prices. 30% of drivers have cut down on longer car journeys. This is a trend that can surely only continue as oil supplies diminish? Perhaps we should be thinking about building a bigger Railway Station instead? 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089

[Yorkie]

Before we spend all this money, it's worth nothing that car journeys are actually falling in response to high fuel prices. 30% of drivers have cut down on longer car journeys. This is a trend that can surely only continue as oil supplies diminish? Perhaps we should be thinking about building a bigger Railway Station instead? 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13863089

I somewhat agree with what you say but for a family of 4 it is still much cheaper (and more convenent) to travel by car!   Before the railway comes back into its own, people will have to change their mentality about having a door to door service!   

[dingo20]

Park and ride seems like a good idea what about a free circular bus services - hop on hop off - like the one's operating in Manchester which stop at all the tram and rail way stations and the main attractions within the city. You could extend this to Colwyn Bay and Rhyl which would encourage the need for people not to use their cars. With families you can get a family rail card which is about £ 10 (this could've gone up) this give 2 for 1 on some tickets. What about a taxi pick up linked in with the hotel / B&B's deals they offer. I did see one hotel in Colwyn Bay that offers a home pick up drop off and day trips using their own vehicles, good idea? Add a suppliment to cover fuel?

[DaveR]

Many people are not aware of a scheme called Groupsave, whereby 3 or 4 people can travel by train for the price of 2. Applies to any destination in the UK, single or return.

"GroupSave offers the opportunity for three or four people (minimum one adult) to travel for the price that two adults would normally pay on various off-peak ticket types. Up to four additional children can accompany the main party, and travel at the flat fare of £1 each, single or return (not valid on ScotRail). In addition two children under the age of five can travel free of charge with each fare paying passenger."

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/promotions/pr354fdc0a0400020101fea1769fbf60/details.html

[Merddin Emrys]

I somewhat agree with what you say but for a family of 4 it is still much cheaper (and more convenent) to travel by car!   Before the railway comes back into its own, people will have to change their mentality about having a door to door service!   

It will be along time before I'm forced out of using cars (probably never!), I love travelling in my own space and don't forget two thirds of the petrol price is tax  :rage: :rage:

[DaveR]

There's always the Segway....

[dingo20]

What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey

[Merddin Emrys]

There's always the Segway....

As I said just the other day, I'd love a go on one of them 

[Merddin Emrys]

What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey

there's an idea, remove the horse from the trap and fit an engine! wonder if anyone's tried that yet?  ^*^0

[Trojan]

What about a horse and trap or ever a donkey

there's an idea, remove the horse from the trap and fit an engine! wonder if anyone's tried that yet?  ^*^0

Yes they have. It was called a Horseless Carriage. The forerunner of the modern motor car. 

[DaveR]

There's always the Segway....

As I said just the other day, I'd love a go on one of them 

Just looking at their UK website. The main model, the i2, has a 24 mile range and top speed of 12.5mph. Would be ideal for the cycle track along the Prom!
http://www.segway-uk.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=1&Itemid=5