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DaveR

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« Reply #8025 on: July 11, 2018, 09:58:28 AM »
Demolition!

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« Reply #8026 on: July 13, 2018, 12:10:33 PM »
About half of the Tudno Castle Hotel is now completely gone:

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« Reply #8027 on: July 13, 2018, 12:47:33 PM »
The castle might be nearly gone but there seems to be a lot more turrets around as a result of the traffic disruption ;)

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« Reply #8028 on: July 24, 2018, 12:29:56 PM »
Apologies for the source but an interesting article about punch and judy.

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What are your thoughts? Is that puppet offensive?

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« Reply #8029 on: July 24, 2018, 03:35:57 PM »
Thank god I grew up in the 50/60s the world has gone mad ,watching Tom & Gerry did I go out and batter a cat No too many more to mention, my Grandson watched punch& Judy yesterday he couldn't stop laughing . Sad old world we live in nowadays .😢

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« Reply #8030 on: July 24, 2018, 04:16:27 PM »
I think what is really sad is that racism still exists and for as long as it does you have to be careful in the motives of anything remotely associated with it.
In the process have we become too sensitive? Possibly, but only if you are still subjected to racism are you in a position to give a valid response.



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« Reply #8031 on: July 24, 2018, 04:23:04 PM »
Sadly things have gone too far when people are employed to help meet quotas rather than being best able to do the job.



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« Reply #8032 on: July 24, 2018, 04:39:36 PM »
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Sadly things have gone too far when people are employed to help meet quotas rather than being best able to do the job.

I tend to agree but when you discover that there are so many areas of unjustified inequality, and not just based on race, it's hardly surprising that some try to redress or repress the balance.

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« Reply #8033 on: July 24, 2018, 04:41:25 PM »
So, it's OK for modern films and video games that kids play to have violence, shootings and killing between "real" people but it's not OK to have some woodentops, regardless of colour, hitting each other.

It seems that the "minorities" (whether due to race, sexuality, disability, gender, etc) wanting equality don't just want equality, they want to have extra - some are more equal than others.

Treat everyone the same, equally.

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« Reply #8034 on: July 24, 2018, 05:04:33 PM »
And you cannot change the past
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« Reply #8035 on: July 24, 2018, 05:21:11 PM »
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Sadly things have gone too far when people are employed to help meet quotas rather than being best able to do the job.

That's simply not true. Proportionately to the population then there should be an equal amount of people from each ethnicity working in any given role (ie if for example there are 4% of Asian people in the populous then it's fair to say roughly 4 out of every 100 people employed in whatever role it happens to be should be Asian). If this isn't shown then somewhere along the line there has been discrimination, and it's important to have these standards to put that right. It is simply about redressing the balance.

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« Reply #8036 on: July 24, 2018, 05:27:59 PM »
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So, it's OK for modern films and video games that kids play to have violence, shootings and killing between "real" people but it's not OK to have some woodentops, regardless of colour, hitting each other.

It seems that the "minorities" (whether due to race, sexuality, disability, gender, etc) wanting equality don't just want equality, they want to have extra - some are more equal than others.

Treat everyone the same, equally.

1) I think you'll find that those games and films are 18 rated. So no it is not considered ok that kids are playing them, it is illegal for kids to purchase them.

2) gender is not a 'minority' girls and boys are pretty evenly churned out

3) How can you treat disabled people equally to able bodied people? Are you going to tell blind people to look where they are going when they are crossing the road? Of course you need to make adjustments!

4) Your whole argument has no basis in any fact other than hearsay at best.

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« Reply #8037 on: July 25, 2018, 09:44:34 AM »
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That's simply not true. Proportionately to the population then there should be an equal amount of people from each ethnicity working in any given role (ie if for example there are 4% of Asian people in the populous then it's fair to say roughly 4 out of every 100 people employed in whatever role it happens to be should be Asian). If this isn't shown then somewhere along the line there has been discrimination, and it's important to have these standards to put that right. It is simply about redressing the balance.
You're absolutely right, but the problem is, it only works one way. We never hear any concerns mentioned for industries or jobs where white or males are in a minority.

A quick example, the BBC:

"45% of the 2015 Television Production apprentices are black, Asian and ethnic minority with 64% coming from families where neither parent attended university. Across our 2015 Digital Journalism apprentices 50% are black, Asian and ethnic minority with 60% coming from families where neither parent attended university."
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Being as that black, Asian and ethnic minority people account for approx 12% of the population, I take it that you would regard the above figures as unacceptable and agree that it should be redressed?

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« Reply #8038 on: July 25, 2018, 10:23:39 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D

I think this is the first time this forum has tackled such an inherently sensitive and important issue.

I suspect the BBC's figures are rather atypical of UK employers generally. This is possibly because they're under enormous pressure from Government and the competing media, not least the venomous bile ejaculated by the DFM's editor.

B2R: you're talking positive discrimination when you say "Proportionately to the population then there should be an equal amount of people from each ethnicity working in any given role". Opponents of positive discrimination claim it runs counter to the concept that it should always be the best person for the job irrespective of race, colour, creed or gender preference.

The question which then arises is do we assume a homogeneity of ability, intellect, desire and talent in all communities?

I suspect it's not helped when groups such as West Mercia Police release this sort of thing in relation to those suspected of having thrown acid at a three year old: "West Mercia Police said it would not be releasing the identities of the men who have been charged." The question that arises is why have they not done that?

We're currently in what's become a six week long heatwave - and it's not just here;  around the globe countries are experiencing above average temperatures and below average rainfall.  Why am I mentioning this? Because every serious civil disturbance in the UK over the last fifty years has occurred during hot and dry weather. And most have been linked to deprivation or race.

The reason the UK has strong legislation in place in respect of racially-aggravated crimes and race relations in general is precisely because society can break down if sufficient groups believe they are being treated unfairly.

The flip side of that particular coin is that the cultural aspirations of some groups are so wildly different to what we often see as the 'Traditional English village' ethos, assimilation of those groups does present enormous challenges.

As an aside millions, possibly billions, have been killed in the name of religion, because they spoke a different language or because their skin was a different shade to the person wielding the sword / gun / bow / machete.  It seems, therefore, that the greatest threat to society is posed by religion, language and colour.

 
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« Reply #8039 on: August 22, 2018, 12:10:04 PM »


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