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Offline Hugo

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« Reply #240 on: April 16, 2017, 12:23:54 pm »
I'm surprised that there has been no further mention of the woman driver who hit a woman on a zebra crossing by the hospital in Llandudno on 24th March 2017.
Apart from describing the vehicle as being a small maroon car, the woman was described as being in her 50's or 60's with a bob style haircut and wearing a maroon coloured anorak.
Surely there should also be enough CCTV cameras in that area to identify the car and driver and after all the Police know the time and date of that incident.   I believe that the lady victim had to have surgery after the hit and run incident so I hope that she has made a good recovery and that the driver is soon found.

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« Reply #241 on: May 14, 2017, 09:10:29 pm »
As some of you may know we are moving to the area and looking for a house. One we are considering is in Lloyd St, trawling the net for info on the area I was amazed to see this map of crime in the area in the past 6 mths. Am I naieve, or is this typical?

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« Reply #242 on: May 14, 2017, 09:27:15 pm »
FYI, that radius is more like one mile and not a quarter of a mile.

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« Reply #243 on: May 15, 2017, 08:36:08 am »
Read it in more detail, Simon. The problem with quick-fix graphics like that is that it's what they don't say which is most important.  This is showing the reported incidents over a six month period. Given that it covers the most densely populated area of Llandudno what stands out is how few reported incidents there are.

So the next stage is to define each category. You can start by eliminating the anti-social behaviour category. Not only has Llandudno generally got a very low tolerance for that sort of thing, so that many might simply be Fester shouting at someone after 11pm, because every instance that's reported is logged it appears far worse than it is. Antisocial behaviour is  more in the eye of the beholder than a statutory offence.

The next category is very difficult to define, because it gives no details. Violence is easy, but 'sexual offences' can be almost anything, from someone browsing sites they shouldn't to far more serious things. But again  - no details.

Then the list of offences almost vanishes.  Criminal damage and arson, for instance: quite a difference between someone scratching the side of a car and setting a house on fire. And, frankly, I can't believe that Llandudno's main shopping area has only one shoplifting incident every six months.
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« Reply #244 on: May 15, 2017, 12:27:10 pm »
Ha ha... Ian, I try to curtail my 'shouting' by 22.59pm, so not guilty M,lud.

Now, more seriously, Lloyd St is very central indeed, and the houses toward the Oval are very nice indeed, but you very quickly get into the Lloyd St near Londis which has all the multiple occupancy flats and bedsits.
The Townhouse and Cross Keys pubs are right there, not the most salubrious establishments (I should know, I go in them), and they can be noisy even after 1am.

I would happily live at the West End of Lloyd St, but less so the North, which is the big right in the centre of town.
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« Reply #245 on: May 15, 2017, 09:12:44 pm »
Good discussion thanks  :D

I am sceptical of maps that plot data like this and Bri you are right to point out the scaling error. I am staying in a guest house in Trinity St at the moment and you definitely get a different feel for the streets by being just a few blocks closer to Mostyn St. Seems to be plenty of thicko loudmouths around at times, guess they are here for a lager holiday. It is good to hear the police apply a zero tolerance approach to any anti-social behaviour, that is an imperative I think to protect the town's main gig - tourism.

This map originally came up when I was searching for any arson reports on the house we are looking to rent which has had a shed fire. Locals will know it as the semi-detached property at the end of Lloyd st right next to the cricket ground.

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« Reply #246 on: May 15, 2017, 10:47:48 pm »
I often park just by that house Mondie,  perfectly central between both shores when the town is busy and I've stuff to do.
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« Reply #247 on: May 20, 2017, 04:05:52 pm »
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« Reply #248 on: May 21, 2017, 05:18:44 pm »
This vehicle's MOT expired nearly 7 years ago but what are the Police doing about it now?

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« Reply #249 on: May 21, 2017, 05:32:21 pm »
Strange, still taxed but failed it's last mot back in 2009 !  How is it still on the road?

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« Reply #250 on: May 21, 2017, 05:38:11 pm »
It is not showing as insured either, perhaps it has been off the road for years and a computer system automatically pays the car tax?  All very odd! 
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« Reply #251 on: May 21, 2017, 05:39:50 pm »
Very strange indeed ME      ???              This is a copy of the DVLA instructions but what can or will they do?


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I've just checked the vehicle again using "car tax checker"  on the DVLA database and the vehicle is on the road.  The road tax is due on 1st June 2017  and the MOT   expired on 4th June 2010
It will be interesting to see what happens in June.

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« Reply #252 on: May 21, 2017, 06:01:20 pm »
Police vehicles maintained in an approved workshop do not require an MOT.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/declaration-of-exemption-from-mot
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« Reply #253 on: May 21, 2017, 06:47:21 pm »
That explains it then !
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« Reply #254 on: May 21, 2017, 06:51:50 pm »
Thanks Bosun for posting the link, it was interesting to see all the other instances when vehicles don't need a MOT.