Policing Issues Discussion

[Yorkie]

Today I discovered quite by accident that Calls to the Police on 101 are charged at a fixed cost of 15 pence per call.   I thought Police Services were funded from the extortionate Council and Police Tax we pay! 

In that case if someone nicks my car, I wont tell them, so there!    ZXZ

[Yorkie]

Police out in force on Cayley Promenade in Rhos on Sea today.  Anyone know anything?  Or is it a similar exercise to the one they did in March 2010 that upset a lot of motorists?   
 ^*^0

[Bri Roberts]

I just walked around the Great Orme and a police car with at least 3 Officers twice passed me.

[Yorkie]

I just walked around the Great Orme and a police car with at least 3 Officers twice passed me.

If you want to be arrested, you have to wave them down! WWW

[Bri Roberts]

Yorkie, that post was made because of what you had just seen in R-o-S. 

[Yorkie]

Yorkie, that post was made because of what you had just seen in R-o-S. 

I know that, and you know that, but my comment was just a light hearted response to your old post! 

Got to keep my average up!
 ZXZ

[SteveH]

Stop publishing crime stats, says police union chief

Police forces should stop publishing crime statistics because they give the public the wrong impression, a police union leader has said.
The UK Statistics Authority, the watchdog that oversees the publication of official data, said in January it could no longer approve crime figures based on information recorded by the police in England and Wales.

It found evidence that forces had been undercounting crime - due to human error, poor training and dealing with incidents informally - or, in some cases, massaging the figures to meet performance targets.
There has also been criticism that some crimes - such as four million examples of credit card fraud every year - are not included in the official figures.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29515807

[mull]

Never trusted Police Crime figures since the following happened a few years ago.
Someone started dipping into my bank account which fortunately I spotted very quickly andput a stop to, but not before they had helped themselves to the following,
£10 top up on a mobile phone
£80 on party items at Clinton Cards
£280 shopping at ASDA.
Investigations by my wife managed to find out off ASDA an address in Brierley Hill, Birmingham that the shopping had been delivered to. A look on Earth Scout revealed it was in a block of flats.
We tried to pass this information on to West Midlands Police but they refused to take any details off us saying it was a matter for them but should be done by the Credit Card company.
Presume West Midlands Police did not want the crime appearing on their statistics even though it happened in their area.

Is this sort of crime now so prevalent that no one is interested in it ?

[SteveH]

Hi Mull,  " Is this sort of crime now so prevalent that no one is interested in it ?"

"There has also been criticism that some crimes - such as four million examples of credit card fraud every year - are not included in the official figures."

 Short answer ....Apparently.....

[SteveH]

The government is planning to scrap the use of police cautions - where those who commit minor offences are given a formal warning - in England and Wales.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29859758

[born2run]

"The overhaul of what are known as out-of-court disposals will mean cannabis warnings, community resolutions, penalty notices for disorder, simple cautions and conditional cautions would be replaced by the new two-tier framework.

As part of the scheme, first-time offenders committing minor crimes would face a new statutory community resolution.

This could see them offering a verbal or written apology to their victim, paying compensation or fixing damage."



"cannabis warnings" - who exactly will they have to say sorry to? And what damage has been done?
POINTLESS and not thought through yet again 

[SteveH]

This looks interesting...

Should North Wales take leaf out of Portugal's book to combat drugs epidemic?
The North Wales Police and Crime Commissioner has been to Lisbon to see how they tackle narcotics.

Mr Jones, a former police inspector, spent four days filming in the Portuguese capital with a TV crew from the BBC Wales current affairs programme Week In Week Out entitled Cop-out on Drugs, to be screened at 10.40pm on BBC1 Wales tomorrow evening.......  . .......The cost of the trip was met by the BBC. 

We looked at how drug users are actually dealt with. If a police officer stops someone in the street who has cannabis on them if they have less than 10 days’ supply they are referred to what’s called a dissuasion commission which will then decide how to deal with them.

“If they are identified as a non-problematical or recreational user, as is mostly the case with cannabis and with 90 per cent of drug users in most countries, they give them information on the dangers of taking drugs and also a suspended sanction which means no action is taken against them.

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/should-north-wales-take-leaf-12733004

[SteveH]

          

Offender's £45k phone bill paid by North Wales Police.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39488370

[Fester]

         

Offender's £45k phone bill paid by North Wales Police.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39488370

I read that story Steve, it beggars belief..... is there no end to the incompetence and waste of our money?

[SteveH]

Offender's £45k phone bill paid by North Wales Police.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39488370

I read that story Steve, it beggars belief..... is there no end to the incompetence and waste of our money?

We could start a new thread, and list them all, but it would make depressing reading.