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Re: Llandudno Pier
« Reply #600 on: August 15, 2014, 12:15:51 AM »
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   I reckon we should have three cheers for the wind farm. Never mind all those alarmist statements from a few local vocal mouths, do they still seriously say that the sight of this farm will put off visitors? More likely there will be a small but significant arrival of visitors who have come because THEY WANT TO SEE the wind farm. Yes, probably only a few with specialised interests, but don't forget it is the second largest off shore wind farm in the world. So any one connected with or interested in this industry are likely to take a look. And there are a good few thousand of them.

I have heard several people say that the windfarm is an eyesore, and has 'ruined' what used to be their beloved view of the bay.   I am talking several people, not hundreds by any means.

However, I have NEVER heard ANYONE say they like the view of the turbines, much less that they have actually come to see it!

Make of that what you will.




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« Reply #601 on: August 15, 2014, 07:43:07 AM »
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However, I have NEVER heard ANYONE say they like the view of the turbines

I have. Again, like you, I haven't talked to thousands of people but I've discussed the sight with a fair few and I think it's been equally split between those who think the sight is adding something, and those who don't.

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I have heard several people say that the windfarm is an eyesore

I'm wondering if these were spontaneous observations, in which case the old adage that people are infinitely more likely to complain about something than they are to praise it kicks in.
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« Reply #602 on: August 15, 2014, 08:21:17 AM »
My Wife hates them and regards them as a blot on the seascape, maybe because the old family house in Rho on Sea had a magnificent sea view from the top of the Cayley Bank.   Me, well I'm just philosophical about the whole question of wind farms, one can either take 'em or leave 'em! 

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« Reply #603 on: August 15, 2014, 08:34:58 AM »
Yorkie, just for you, sorry it's not a smiley!  :laugh:
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« Reply #604 on: August 15, 2014, 06:23:27 PM »
I am looking forward to the 26th. and the return of the PS. Waverley, I had a trip on her in the late 60s on the Clyde, marked by the appearance of the famous St. Mungo fire boat, who carried out a fire drill, we felt like a liner entering New York, the deck mounted hoses, spraying hundreds of feet into the air, that is until, it started spraying my friends and I,and we had to take shelter inside.                                                                             We had been set up by the two skippers.who new each other, I on the other hand only knew one of them, the one from the fire boat,......... my father..... you will be surprised to learn, came from Rhos on Sea.

The new Waverley,was built in 1946/7 to replace the original sunk at Dunkirk.    (good year 47)
It was sold in 1973 to the Paddle Steamer Pres. Soc. for £1.
693 tonne, Length   239 ft.  beam  57 ft.  and can carry 900 passengers   (figs. approx.)

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« Reply #605 on: August 15, 2014, 11:21:06 PM »
   Yorkie, view from the Cayley Bank?   Oh, I know, the one looking across to the Sky Tower in Rhyl. But I must admit there is only one of them, and probably wasnt built at the time you are talking about

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Re: Llandudno Pier
« Reply #606 on: August 16, 2014, 05:35:39 PM »
I don't mind the windfarm on the coast - what I object to is windfarms in the countryside



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Re: Llandudno Pier
« Reply #607 on: August 16, 2014, 06:11:30 PM »
The view from the other side, Great Orme  on the right.
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I think I would prefer some Antony Gormley works on North Shore
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I have always disliked the idea of the wind farm as I don't think it's an economically viable operation, interestingly neither does Centrica as far as the Rhiannon field is concerned. Scrapping the plan has left an area equal to Anglesey free of these constructions.
I'm not sure if the long term impact on wildlife hasn't been fully researched in terms of the effect on migrating birds but it might have advantages to fish stocks as it offers breeding grounds and hiding places.
You can see the gas platform from Llandudno, this is what it's like close up.
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« Reply #608 on: August 16, 2014, 06:20:30 PM »
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I have always disliked the idea of the wind farm as I don't think it's an economically viable operation

Apparently they're not. Only tidal power would be, because it's predictable, and only nuclear is guaranteed for the future.   How d'you get the close up shot?
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Re: Llandudno Pier
« Reply #609 on: August 16, 2014, 06:43:06 PM »
Took the shots from a boat, we were out photographing wildlife.
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A pod of around 40 Bottle Nosed Dolphin were near the gas platform
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« Reply #610 on: August 16, 2014, 07:57:06 PM »
A fantastic article Dave,  and fabulous, thought-provoking pictures too!   $good$ $good$
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« Reply #611 on: August 17, 2014, 07:28:48 AM »
Excellent shots, particularly that first one.
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« Reply #612 on: August 17, 2014, 12:36:58 PM »
Fabulous photos Dave. I wish you would put more on the forum. I love looking at them. The ones of the wind farm from that angle were very interesting even though for me somewhat horrifying.

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Re: Llandudno Pier
« Reply #613 on: August 25, 2014, 07:37:03 PM »
Oh Dear.

The Waverley Website says Tuesday's sailing now CANCELLED.... due to 'High Winds'

700 were expected to arrive from Liverpool, and another 700 were due to embark at Llandudno.
That's a lot of refunded money!

I know from personal experience that many hotels have guests who are here ONLY for that sailing.

There is a Wednesday sailing scheduled,  let's hope that happens.
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« Reply #614 on: September 13, 2014, 02:28:13 PM »
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The Waverley Website says Tuesday's sailing now CANCELLED.... due to 'High Winds'
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Ref Assets 12/9/14
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"And talking of the pier,I was going to ask if there were any plans for more boat trips, seems a waste if the new landing stage isn't used, a nice business chance going there for someone, anybody know??"

I had a look at pier boat trips, Blue line cruises, came up, working the south coast, seems good, both normal and special cruises,   does seem a wasted business opportunity and an asset to the pier.
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