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Ian

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Have Your Say: What would you do?
« on: June 19, 2011, 09:06:24 AM »
We're all pretty certain that we could deal with some of the major issues that beset society better than the government, so here's where we can say what we'd do.
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Ian

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 09:08:54 AM »
It costs £730 million to prescribe methadone to recovering addicts and a further £1.2billion is spent looking after their ­children, bringing total costs of drug addiction to £3.6billion. What should society do?
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DaveR

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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2011, 09:17:30 AM »
The 'War on Drugs' has never really worked, so I suppose legalisation and taxation should now be considered.

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2011, 09:25:43 AM »
Flogging, public humiliation, and long term improsonment.... for the SUPPLIERS !
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Yorkie

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 09:31:11 AM »
They made alcohol legal in the USA and this is the result.  The major drug problem in the States is Alcohol.

Alcohol Statistics
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 Each year, a typical young person in the United States is inundated with more than 1,000 commercials for beer and wine coolers and several thousand fictional drinking incidents on television.
Alcohol is involved in 50% of all driving fatalities.
In the United States, every 30 minutes someone is killed in an alcohol related traffic accident.
Over 15 million Americans are dependent on alcohol. 500,000 are between the age of 9 and 12.
Each year the liquor industry spends almost $2 billion dollars on advertising and encouraging the consumption of alcoholic beverages.
Americans spend over $90 billion dollars total on alcohol each year.
An average American may consume over 25 gallons of beer, 2 gallons of wine, and 1.5 gallons of distilled spirits each year.
Pregnant women who drink are feeding alcohol to their babies. Unfortunately the underdeveloped liver of the baby can only burn alcohol at half the rate of its mother, so the alcohol stays in the baby's system twice as long.
Each year students spend $5.5 billion on alcohol, more then they spend on soft drinks, tea, milk, juice, coffee, or books combined.
56% of students in grade 5 to 12 say that alcohol advertising encourages them to drink.
6.6% of employees in full time jobs report heavy drinking, defined as drinking five or more drinks per occasion on five or more days in the past 30 days.
The highest percentage of heavy drinkers (12.2%) is found among unemployed adults between the age of 26 to 34
Up to 40% of all industrial fatalities and 47% of industrial injuries can be linked to alcohol consumption and alcoholism.
In 2000, almost 7 million persons age 12 to 20 was a binge drinker; that is about one in five persons under the legal drinking age was a binge drinker.
The 2001 survey shows 25 million (one in ten) Americans surveyed reported driving under the influence of alcohol. This report is nearly three million more than the previous year. Among young adults age 18 to 25 years, almost 23% drove under the influence of alcohol.
Drunk driving is proving to be even deadlier then what we previously know. The latest death statistics released by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), using a new method of calculation show that 17,488 people where killed in alcohol related traffic accidents last year. This report represents nearly 800 more people where killed than the previous year.
Alcohol is the number 1 drug problem in America.
43% of Americans have been exposed to alcoholism in their families.
Nearly one out of 4 Americans admitted to general hospitals have alcohol problems or are undiagnosed alcoholics being diagnosed for alcohol related consequences.
Alcohol and alcohol related problems is costing the American economy at least $100 million in health care and lost of productivity every year.
Four in ten criminal offenders report alcohol as a factor in violence.
Among spouse violence victims, three out of four incidents were reported to have involved alcohol use by the offender.
In 1996, local law enforcement agencies made an estimated 1,467,300 arrests nationwide for driving under the influence of alcohol.
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Ian

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2011, 10:02:52 AM »
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Flogging, public humiliation, and long term improsonment.... for the SUPPLIERS !
They already provide the last of those, F, and I strongly suspect that those who routinely work in a business where they already risk death on a daily basis would be unduly concerned about the first two :-))

Yesss...I wasn't thinking alcohol when I created the topic, but you're right;  it's probably the No. 1 cause of violence and A & E admissions in the UK .
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Ian

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2011, 08:12:39 AM »
The Dowler family has been questioning if the 'price was too high' to bring Bellfield to Justice. But was it?

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2011, 05:15:33 PM »
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Flogging, public humiliation, and long term improsonment.... for the SUPPLIERS !


I think the majority of  people would express the same sentiments as Fester, but is it likely to happen NO because of the old British tradition of fair play!
In the meantime people are abusing the benefits system and it wants urgent reforming.  Extra benefits given to alcoholics for example, what does that encourage?   
Also the multiple fraudulent claims made, perhaps if each claimant was fingerprinted it would prevent the crooks from making multiple claims.
I can't see any objection to it apart from the do gooders brigade and perhaps then the money saved from the crooks could be used to increase the benefits to the genuine and deserving cases.

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2011, 08:09:48 PM »
The Thread is called 'What would you do' ... here's an idea.

Install a licensed bar in the Benefits office.  A one stop shop perhaps?

In this way, the claimants will get their benefit, and spend it all in the one place.
Thus keeping them out of my way,  and getting the money back off them and back into the system.

Simple!
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DaveR

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2011, 09:04:20 PM »
As Hugo pointed out on the other thread, the local Police should adopt a policy of taking alcohol from anyone found drinking on the street and pour it down the drain. Aren't most of the central Llandudno streets supposed to be alcohol free zones anyway?

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2011, 07:04:13 AM »
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The Thread is called 'What would you do' ... here's an idea.

Install a licensed bar in the Benefits office.  A one stop shop perhaps?

In this way, the claimants will get their benefit, and spend it all in the one place.
Thus keeping them out of my way,  and getting the money back off them and back into the system.

Simple!

 L0L Excellent!

Ian

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2011, 08:37:52 AM »
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the local Police should adopt a policy of taking alcohol from anyone found drinking on the street and pour it down the drain


I think that's an excellent idea which could be implemented without cost.
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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2011, 09:12:52 AM »
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the local Police should adopt a policy of taking alcohol from anyone found drinking on the street and pour it down the drain


I think that's an excellent idea which could be implemented without cost.

No :o  confiscate it and resell it in the bar of the benefits office! a nice little erner  D)
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Ian

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2011, 11:14:34 AM »
But how much could you get for a half drunk can?

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DaveR

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Re: Have Your Say: What would you do?
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2011, 11:23:26 AM »
Half normal price? WWW