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« Reply #225 on: April 29, 2020, 11:26:24 am »
The DFM has become much improved under its new editor, and their factual reporting  isn't at all bad, now.

If true, it's both worrying and yet unsurprising. I suppose BAA might argue they knew the passengers were checked at the departure in Iran. Mind you, I do think we could have closed our borders to everyone except for essential supplies some time ago.
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« Reply #226 on: April 29, 2020, 12:43:14 pm »
The DFM has become much improved under its new editor, and their factual reporting  isn't at all bad, now.

If true, it's both worrying and yet unsurprising. I suppose BAA might argue they knew the passengers were checked at the departure in Iran. Mind you, I do think we could have closed our borders to everyone except for essential supplies some time ago.

I searched   "are uk borders still open" ...  There is some copyright issues with sharing some of my findings re the above, so link only
https://www.ft.com/content/91dea18f-ad0e-4dcb-98c3-de836b1ba79b


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« Reply #227 on: April 29, 2020, 12:46:42 pm »
I'm pleased to read that you haven't given up on your favourite newspaper the DFM       ;D

The Government has made a number of mistakes with this pandemic and has  the unenviable record of being the country with the highest death rate in Europe.     We could have followed the German or New Zealand way of dealing with this outbreak but years of austerity and poor planning and preparation have taken there toll

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Re: Covid 19
« Reply #228 on: April 29, 2020, 02:26:06 pm »
It's not the highest, Hugo:


Italy: 27,359 deaths

Spain: 23,822 deaths

France: 23,660 deaths

UK: 21,678 deaths


But we're getting there...

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Re: Covid 19
« Reply #229 on: April 30, 2020, 10:03:09 am »
The new testing centre's are causing a lot of confusion............

The 4 step checklist which decides who gets to use North Wales coronavirus testing centres
Only front line staff who meet eligibility criteria will be tested for Covid-19 during the 'priority stage'


The criteria which decides the key workers who are eligible for coronavirus testing has today been revealed.

Only NHS workers, police, fire and ambulance service staff who display symptoms are currently able to self-swab for Covid-19 at North Wales' designated drive-thru sites at Ysbyty Alltwen, Parc Menai Bangor, Glan Clwyd Hospital, Wrexham Maelor Hospital and Builder’s Street Llandudno.

The recent testing criteria for Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board staff and key workers from partner organisations is a localised version of the guidance from Public Health Wales.

Only staff who meet the criteria are eligible for testing in the priority stage.

Full article plus list of who can be tested............ from today's Daily post

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/4-step-checklist-decides-who-18171675

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« Reply #230 on: April 30, 2020, 02:48:57 pm »
Update on above

The coronavirus self-swab guide and how easy it is to do


People with coronavirus symptoms are using drive-thru test centres to carry out self swabs to see whether or not they have the illness.
National guidance has been given out to patients who carry out the tests from their cars.

One who went to a test centre this morning told North Wales Live he'd been dreading doing the test himself but admitted he found it "surprisingly easy."

The man said he was eligible for testing because he and his wife had both had bad coughs and his wife has also developed a rash on her feet.

Cont    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/coronavirus-self-swab-guide-how-18175814

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« Reply #231 on: May 01, 2020, 11:50:26 am »
I think this is an important subject, that will have to be taken seriously, I was referred to a physiotherapy rehab breathing programme, in 2018, it took over 12 months before I got a place, these people, do an excellent job, but are stretched to extremes, bearing in mind this was before Covid19.


NHS faces 'massive' challenge helping patients recover
Providing ongoing support to patients recovering from Covid-19 will be a "massive" challenge for the NHS, say specialists.
Occupational therapy and physiotherapy organisations told BBC Wales a national strategy for rehab would be required.
They claim provision is "patchy" and without help people's lives will be harmed.

The Welsh Government said it had announced an extra £10m to help people recovering from coronavirus.

Making sure effective support is in place will be key, according to Dai Davies, from the Royal College of Occupational Therapists in Wales.
He said coronavirus patients were experiencing extreme weakness and fatigue, breathlessness, neurological problems such as poor concentration as well as anxiety, depression and loss of confidence in their bodies.

As well as helping hospital patients he predicted staff would be attending to many of the 80,000 vulnerable people "shielding" at home in Wales.
"We really need the services to be there to meet the needs of those people

cont   https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52475139

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« Reply #232 on: May 05, 2020, 10:23:02 am »
WITH Wales past the peak of the coronavirus and almost six weeks into lockdown, it is clear that testing will play a crucial role in any exit from current restrictions.

So here are some of the key questions regarding testing in Wales answered.

Who is being tested?
People admitted to hospital with certain symptoms – evidence of pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome or flu-like illness and one of the following symptoms: a persistent cough hoarseness, nasal discharge or congestion, shortness of breath, sore throat, wheezing, sneezing – should be tested.

NHS staff with symptoms should also be tested, to enable them to return to work if they test negative.

An updated policy, which extends testing to all critical workers was published on 18 April. Critical workers fall into the following categories:

• health and social care workers

• public safety (emergency workers) and national security workers

• local and national government workers

• education and childcare workers

• food and other necessary goods

• transport

• utilities, communication and financial services workers

• key public service workers

For the wider categories of critical workers, beyond frontline NHS and care staff, testing is being made available if the public and critical services we all rely come under pressure from high levels of staff sickness or absence.

https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/18426750.coronavirus-testing-wales-everything-need-know/

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« Reply #233 on: May 05, 2020, 10:49:49 am »
The plot thickens in regard to Patient Zero. That was probably a man in China who may have contracted it in early November. But we now know France's first case was at least as early as 27.12.19, and they've now started re-testing samples taken from Pneumonia patients before that.
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Re: Covid 19
« Reply #234 on: May 05, 2020, 04:26:18 pm »
RE my post of the ...........
« on: April 29, 2020, 10:59:42 AM

We received this piece from a friend of a friend, please take it at face value...........

1 May at 09:30
I am so angry and pained this morning... arrived into Heathrow yesterday and heartbroken to see absolutely ZERO checks being done to arriving passengers who have travelled right around the globe. No masks or Protection on airport workers/emigration, no questions asked on health, no information given on Covid-19, no temperatures taken and absolutely no social distancing measurements enforced. Not even a presence of virus protection anywhere - you would think nothing was happening. People everywhere. No self quarantine advised or enforced quarantine to non uk citizens, no matter what nationality and where they have been travelling.

We had flown into Melbourne from probably one of the safest islands to be right now, kept on the aircraft and given a 20 minute brief on covid by the Australian health authority. All passengers who were not onward travelling out of Oz would be escorted to a government facility and quarantined for 14 days. We were then escorted off the plane family by family, one by one taken away, temperatures taken and questioned about our health, given masks, hand sanitised, explanation of the virus again, signed a health declaration then escorted into a quarantined departure area, told to social distance from every other family and to sit for 8 hours to wait for our connecting flight with only a vending machine.

Driving home from Heathrow to Manchester, not one police stop to check what we were doing out and traffic everywhere with numerous people sharing vehicles. People out walking in groups, children playing outside with no supervision... the list continues.

I’ve turned on the TV this morning and yet again there is so much news on key workers, nhs, nurses, doctors, carers working their butts off and risking their own health - I am so saddened and angry and feel that the UK government is massively failing in protecting the Uk people. Our fellow Europeans have been locked in their homes, living solitary for weeks on end and airport boarders around the world are closed and we are here “welcoming” everyone in with absolutely no checks and no questions asked. So sad. So sorry. Heart broken.



This from the 15.49 update......... today's Daily Post 

Less than 300 people quarantined as 18.1 million travellers entered UK
Fewer than 300 passengers out of millions coming into the UK from coronavirus hotspots were put into quarantine in the three months before lockdown.
Data provided to Labour MP Stephen Doughty and first published by the Guardian showed that 273 passengers travelling from China and Japan were taken to government isolation centres between January 1 and March 23.
These included travellers on three evacuation flights from Wuhan in China, the source of the outbreak, and one from Japan carrying cruise ship passengers.
Total passenger figures for the same period show that, during those three months, just under 18.1 million people entered the UK from all destinations on scheduled flights or by land or sea.
Mr Doughty submitted a parliamentary written question to find out how many people arriving at the UK border from Spain, China, Italy, USA, Iran, Turkey and France were taken to government-supported Covid-19 quarantine centres in each week from January 1 to March 23.
The breakdown was:
- 83 passengers who arrived on an evacuation flight from Wuhan on January 31;
- 11 passengers on a French-led evacuation flight, again from Wuhan, on February 2;
- 147 people on a final evacuation flight from Wuhan on February 9;
- 32 passengers who had been on board the Diamond Princess Cruise ship and were flown to the UK from Tokyo.
The figures were released amid questions over the Government’s decision not to screen or quarantine more passengers coming from abroad.
A Government spokesman said: “Our approach to tackling coronavirus is, and has always been, driven by the latest scientific and medical advice, and procedures at the border have been strictly following the latest Government guidance throughout.
“The scientific advice showed that placing restrictions at the border would not have had a significant impact on the spread of the virus in the UK.
“Passenger numbers arriving in the UK are currently down by 99% but we continue to keep this under review.”

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/coronavirus-live-updates-global-covid-18199681

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« Reply #235 on: May 06, 2020, 10:53:53 am »
What shielding against the coronavirus actually involves
The number of people in Wales advised to 'shield' against Covid-19 now stands as 121,000.

The Welsh Government announced on Tuesday, May 5 that a further 21,000 people in Wales are being urged to shield themselves, bringing the total to 121,000.

And with this in mind, now might be a good time to get some clarity on the issue and look at what 'shielding' actually means and to whom it may apply.

What is shielding?                   https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/what-shielding-against-coronavirus-actually-18203185

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« Reply #236 on: May 09, 2020, 10:30:13 am »
Read in conjunction with the above    May 05, 2020, 04:26:18 PM »

UK airlines say they have been told the government will bring in a 14-day quarantine for anyone arriving in the UK from any country apart from the Republic of Ireland in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

The new restriction is expected to take effect at the end of this month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52594023

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« Reply #237 on: May 09, 2020, 10:35:29 am »
No rush, then...
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« Reply #238 on: May 11, 2020, 10:27:51 am »
Passengers arriving from France will be exempt from forthcoming UK coronavirus quarantine measures.

Boris Johnson said on Sunday the rules would be imposed on people coming into the UK, to prevent Covid-19 being brought in from overseas.

As yet, no start or end date for the measures has been announced.

The government has already indicated that people arriving from the Republic of Ireland will not be made to go into quarantine.

However, the measures will apply to UK holidaymakers returning from other destinations.

Travel industry analysts said that meant a one-week or two-week holiday abroad would be followed by another two weeks in self-isolation.

The World Travel and Tourism Council expressed concern about the new measures, saying they would damage confidence among would-be travellers.     cont  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52610594

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« Reply #239 on: May 18, 2020, 03:01:39 pm »
The coronavirus symptoms you now need to look out for after update from top doctors
The UK's chief medical officers have updated the list of symptoms.

People who experience a loss of taste and smell are now being told to self-isolate under new guidance from the UK's chief medical officers.

Anosmia -as it is known - has been added to the list of coronavirus symptoms along with a continuous cough or fever.

A statement on the government website from all four of the UK's chief medical officers states: "From today, all individuals should self-isolate if they develop a new continuous cough or fever or anosmia.
"Anosmia is the loss of or a change in your normal sense of smell. It can also affect your sense of taste as the two are closely linked.

"We have been closely monitoring the emerging data and evidence on Covid-19 and, after thorough consideration, we are now confident enough to recommend this new measure.

"The individual’s households should also self-isolate for 14 days as per the current guidelines and the individual should stay at home for seven days, or longer if they still have symptoms other than cough or loss of sense of smell."

Changes for the symptomatic individual and their household:
Individuals will need to self-isolate immediately if they develop a new continuous cough or fever or, as of today, a loss or changed sense of normal smell or taste (anosmia)
All members of their household must also self-isolate according to current guidelines, unless the symptomatic individual receives a negative test result.               ref   DP