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Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2018, 02:12:26 AM »
 Just to make certain there is a Robert at ALL----- on the 1901 census Ethel Roberts says she is born in Llandudno  1890, but the Robert Roberts on that census form gives his age as 9 so born 1892 and all so gives birth place as Conwy  Carnarvon do not know if that makes a difference or not, but there is a Robert Roberts born Dec; quarter 1902 for Conway. With the PDF beaning the cheapest way to go I will send for that as well
 Got to get to the bottom of this
 THANK'S  again for all your help will let you know of the out come
 Regards Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2018, 08:21:03 AM »
It is easy to get carried away when you are researching but you just have to take your time and think a bit about it.
The Robert Roberts b1902 cannot be your relative because the parents died both in 1896.

Census records are good but not 100 per cent correct either as someone copies the info on the forms and there can be a mistake in the age or year etc mainly because of handwriting.   

I'll have a think about the 1892 year as I put in 1893 in my Census search and will let you know if anything turns up

Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2018, 08:47:48 AM »
Got the wrong date 1892 ,to much haste

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« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2018, 03:59:13 PM »
Jeff,  as the 1911 Census was carried out on the 2nd April 1911 wouldn't someone be 9 if they were born between the 3rd April 1891 and the 1st April 1892?
This could mean that the years you should be looking at are 1891 and 1892 but please check my figures as I could be wrong

Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #64 on: July 11, 2018, 12:31:47 AM »
Hi Hugo Ethel was born 29 Jun 1891 unless Robert came early you would be looking at the end of March 1892

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« Reply #65 on: July 11, 2018, 07:49:21 AM »
Hi Jeff, that would be quick by anyone's standards, exactly nine months later.   As I've said before, the Census records are a good guide but not 100 per cent correct
I'm out all day today but will post some more tomorrow, I've just seen that Ethel Katie's birth was registered in the Conway Registration District in September 1891

Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2018, 12:33:36 AM »
Hi Hugo
 The 1893 Robert came not the correct one
 Jeff



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« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2018, 06:32:03 PM »
I'm sorry to hear that Jeff because apart from the money side it's frustrating when you've put in so much work into tracing Robert.
I've looked under the Free BMD records and there are several there registered between 1891 and 1896 at Conwy Registration District.    Great Ness was under the Ellesmere Registration District at that time and there was only a Robert Lewis Roberts registered there in the 1890's and his registration was in the September quarter of 1892 but I've no reason whatsoever to think that he is your Robert.
Until you have more evidence about Robert I wouldn't apply for any more Certificates.

Jeff I've just thought of an idea but it's up to you if you want to do it.    The Registry for Births Marriages and Deaths for Conwy Council is in the Town Hall in Lloyd Street.     They have the records of births for the 1890's.    There is a very nice and extremely helpful lady working there called Glenys who has helped me out previously.
If you phone  on 01492 576525  or  01492 576526 and ask for Glenys and tell her the details you know (parents dates etc ) and that you are searching for Roberts birth certificate and have made a number of wrong applications for the certificate and perhaps she can find it for you.   It's certainly worth a try.

Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #68 on: July 16, 2018, 09:47:14 AM »
Hi Hugo I phone Glanys she is willing to try if I e-mail her. I did not catch her e-mail address would you have it please---will keep on looking for it

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« Reply #69 on: July 16, 2018, 10:32:59 AM »
Hi Jeff,   I spoke to Rhian at the Town Hall just now and she advised me that you had been on the phone to her and that she was looking in to it.
She was very helpful and understood the position and will look into it as soon as she has the time.
Her e-mail address is rhian.harris3@conwy,gov.uk

She said that you are from Tasmania so no wonder you can't see the actual records at the Archives.

Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #70 on: July 16, 2018, 12:46:55 PM »
Just sent it fingers crossed
  Jeff

Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #71 on: July 16, 2018, 02:14:05 PM »
Hooray
 Glenys has found him Robert William Roberts born 26 Oct 1892 :)

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #72 on: July 16, 2018, 03:09:36 PM »
That's really good news Jeff so now you have a full name of Robert and his exact date of birth so let's hope that it'll help with searching for him in later years

Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #73 on: July 16, 2018, 11:53:03 PM »
Thank you Hugo
 For all your help and patience------- I will have to amend the heading of this section to Robert William Roberts born 1892 Llandudno
 Cheers
    Jeff

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Re: Robert Roberts born 1893 Llandudno
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2018, 09:08:35 AM »
You are very welcome Jeff and now there are some definite facts to work from.   By the way what address was recorded on the Birth Certificate?