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Offline Cambrian

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #360 on: November 25, 2021, 08:34:47 pm »
Indeed Robbie.  It would be interesting to work out how many Quangos WG has created in its relatively brief history.  They are populated by what some call "The Cardiff Bay Repertory Company" and others the "Quangocracy"! When the Welsh Assembly (as it was) took over, I am sure many thought that elected AMs would sit in Committees deciding things like Councillors' allowances, major planning applications and so on i.e. transparency.  Not so, they promptly pass on these duties to unelected bodies full of the nomenklatura. Add to the mix the various third sector bodies largely dependent on WG funding and we seem to be living in very curious times.

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Re: Incompetence: CCBC (and other Public Bodies and Statutory Undertakers...)
« Reply #361 on: November 26, 2021, 10:00:35 am »
A slight deviation, but I thought this was a case of " I'm alright jack"........

Conwy councillors vote for teachers' pay rise to be paid from school's own budgets
The cabinet want schools themselves to pick up a £350,000 funding shortfall from the Welsh Government
cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-councillors-vote-teachers-pay-22271581


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 MS for Aberconwy, has criticised the Welsh Government’s lack of action regarding one of their buildings in Llandudno Junction.

The building in Llandudno Junction was part of a £91.5 million strategy to decentralise services from Cardiff in 2002, with more than 550 posts moved from the Welsh capital to three new offices in Merthyr Tydfil, Aberystwyth and Llandudno Junction.

Having previously raised the under use of the Welsh Government building in Llandudno Junction, as well as having written to the First Minister highlighting that local businesses are interested in utilising the building, Mrs Finch-Saunders has slammed the Welsh Government’s lack of progress.

cont https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19980615.slow-welsh-government-yet-act-llandudno-building/

Offline Ian

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“Unfortunately, as seen today in First Minister’s questions, the Welsh Government is more interested in trying to score political points against the UK Government and pull up excuses for their slow progress."

Not as if the Tories are always models of civility and kindness.
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Offline SteveH

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A row broke out at Denbighshire council when councillors were criticised for not reading paperwork before creating a brand new £100,000-a-year senior role. Councillors met at a special meeting this week to discuss restructuring the council’s senior leadership team, which involved creating a new and third corporate director role.

This new role – the corporate director for support services – is being created in addition to an existing vacancy for a second corporate director, which appeared to confuse several councillors. Chief executive Graham Boase said the senior leadership team were firefighting and needed to invest in strong leadership.

Cllr Joan Butterfield then encouraged members to vote in favour of the new role. She said, “After all, we are only filling a vacant post.”

After some opposition to the new role, Cllr Bob Murray then also appeared to believe that councillors were voting to fill the corporate director post vacated by the current chief executive Graham Boase – instead of creating a new senior role. “The chief executive left,” he said.

Cllr Murray added: “Graham took over the post, and we are being asked to fill his post. Where’s the problem?” Cllr Gwyneth Ellis called it a disgrace that several councillors appeared to have not read the paperwork, and Cllr Penlington said the meeting should be scrapped if councillors didn’t know what they were voting for.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/new-100000-denbighshire-council-job-23415817

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Johnson, quietly happy that Putin's invasion has deflected unwelcome attention from his own utter incompetence, will be grinning from ear to ear. He's again got away from the problems he created and, of course, any half-decent government would be working on plans to subsidise the extortionate electricity prices that are now filtering through.

It's pretty much a disaster, and since he's now off the hook for the time being, nothing is going to improve.  Eventually, as things calm, the Tories will bring him down, because they're getting worried about the mess he's leaving the country in.
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Offline Hugo

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 I'm sure that Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe won't forget Boris in a hurry.      He was a disaster as a Foreign secretary and possibly even worse as a PM

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Johnson, quietly happy that Putin's invasion has deflected unwelcome attention from his own utter incompetence, will be grinning from ear to ear. He's again got away from the problems he created and, of course, any half-decent government would be working on plans to subsidise the extortionate electricity prices that are now filtering through.

It's pretty much a disaster, and since he's now off the hook for the time being, nothing is going to improve.  Eventually, as things calm, the Tories will bring him down, because they're getting worried about the mess he's leaving the country in.
What about subsidising petrol and fuel?
Gas?
Central heating oil?
Council expenditure?
Food?
Fish and chips?
Netflix?

Offline norman08

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The mps claim all that on expenses.

Offline Ian

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The main issue that has to be addressed is electricity; in itself, it's responsible for rises elsewhere. But the Ukraine situation, combined with CFDovid-19, has revealed just how unprepared the Tory government is for almost anything.
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Offline Dave

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You actually think with another government we would be better off than the current one?
Do tell what preparations we might have expected. If Corbyn had got in he'd have probably supported Russia and wanted to scrap our defences altogether. Without Cameron we would not have been in a position to produce our own vaccine. Despite all the shameful "party gate" behaviour the UK has done better than most in the way Covid was handled and the speed at which we are recovering...until a megalomaniac decided to make his move..

Offline Hugo

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The Tories got in power because of Corbyn so it's hypothetical to try and say what may have happened if Corbyn had got in.      Since the Election the Tories have shown their true colours and it's been one disaster after another.   
Even the pandemic was treated on Party lines and hopefully any inquiry into the handling of the pandemic will be treated in an unbiased manner and then we can see the truth
When you have a PM who has made a career out of telling lies both to the public and to Parliament what more can you expect.

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There you have your answer though Hugo. Corbyn was the alternative and the nation decided, he hasn't even condemned his brother's behaviour so one can only guess where he stands on a whole lot of issues so I think the nation made the right choice.
Although I voted to "remain" you can already see there are at least some benefits to leaving the EU. No need to consult anyone else, just get on and do it and that has been the situation with both covid and Ukraine.
I think all parties have their corrupt or dishonourable members who take advantage of their position and that works it's way down to the bottom of the ladder too.
It might make interesting reading to go back on this forum's Covid threads and read people's opinions at the time. Most seemed all in favour of lockdowns and isolation and b****r the consequences. 98% of the local council workers voted against going back to the office to work ever, the office that cost a fortune on the justification it would re-generate Colwyn Bay. The office that has helped contribute to the incredible council tax rise we have had to accept.We have incompetence right across our council it seems and we pay the price.

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Dave, you are right on a lot of things that you have said.   Corbyn did more damage to the Labour Party than any Tory could ever do, in fact the Communist Party of the UK didn't field any candidates in the election as they agreed with all of Corbyn's policies
So when the election came a lot of Labour supporters, myself included voted for the Tory Party

The choice was a Communist with unrealistic ideas or a Tory Buffoon so really it was a no contest.     As for the lockdown, Party politics shouldn't have come into it and on hindsight it should have been run by an independant body free of any Tory influence and perhaps there would have been no corruption and the rules applied to all the UK so that everyone knew the rules

As for the CCBC  then all you have to say is West Shore, North Shore,  Pier Pavilion, The skip and Mochdre depot to name just five of the gaffes made

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Conwy councillors have missed 133 meetings so far this year
Only 10 out of 59 elected members had 100% attendance

Ten of 59 councillors were present for 100% of the meetings they were expected to attend, those being Cllr Mark Baker, Cllr Samantha Cotton, Cllr Louise Emery, Cllr Pauline Heap-Williams, Cllr Donald Milne, Cllr Austin Roberts, Cllr Susan Shotter, Cllr Michael Smith, Cllr Mike Priestley, and Cllr Aaron Wynne. However, some councillors may have recently suffered ill health or have mitigating reasons for their absence.

Here’s a full list of councillors and the percentage of meetings they attended (between 1 January 2022 - 31 March 2022):

LIST...... https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/conwy-councillors-missed-133-meetings-23553237