I wondered if someone might be kind enough to see if there is a baptism record for John OWEN who was born to John Owen and Margaret (Jones) abt 1875 Llandudno. They may well have been living at either Tyn-y-Maes Cottage, Llandudno or back Mostyn Street, Eglwys Rhos at that time (1874 they were in Tyn-y-Maes and were at 4, Back Mostyn, Eglwys Rhos in 1877.
Jack married Ellen OWEN of Menai Bridge in 1904. I have all relevant census returns for him. Ellen disappears after 1911 but by 1931 when Jack died, he was noted to have left a widow by the name of Bertha (His death cert), whom I believe from research to be Bertha ALLEN (one time wife of Charles McKINNELL). Further research including clues from this forum suggest Bertha and Jack had a daughter Bertha M and a son John Kenneth (as per a comment on this forum re a resident of 43 Clifton Rd in the 1950s). My family have told me that Jack did have a daughter and son but no details re either or Jack's wife either official or otherwise and this is the first after many years that I have been anywhere close to establishing who they were.
Any information, further clues again would be most welcome