You have tracked two Elizabeths than may meet the criteria but the only thing to unlink them from William Davies, the grandson of Edward Davies is the fact that I found Elizabeth Davies in the 1861 Census when she was living with her parents at Marl Bach.
Elizabeth was born about 1858 but her birth place was given as Eglwys Rhos in Caernarvonshire.
Eglwys Rhos was the name of a Parish that included a number of areas all of which are in Caernarfonshire. For Census records though Llansanffraid Glan Conwy which was in Denbighshire was included in the Conwy Registration District
We can't even look at the Register of Electors for the 1870's as the women were not included as the didn't have the vote until the 1920's
I can't think of any other searches at the moment as I've tried the Census records for Caernarvonshire, Denbighshire and even Flintshire but nothing has come up. Perhaps others on here may have some more ideas.
Hi Hugo,
I must admit, I have become very confused over the variations in town names. For example, the original image of the 1861 Census showing Elizabeth Davies at Marl Bach shows "Denbighshire EglwysRhos" in the Where Born column. Glan Conwy is also known as Llansanffraid and also known as Denbigh even though on a map Denbigh an Llansanffraid seem very far apart. Eglwys Rhos is also known as Llanrhos.
So I am wondering what other possible names Eglwys Rhos could be known as on the Census records? I will revisit the 56 records located in the 1871 Census and have a closer look at the birth towns looking for Llanrhos and any other suggestions forthcoming.
I can understand your confusion regarding the names of places, it's easy for us because we were born in the area but I'll try and explain it as best as I can,
Firstly, Llansanffraid Glan Conwy, is sometimes shown in the Census as Llansanffraid, It can also be shown just as Glan Conwy. Nowadays it is more commonly known just as Glan Conwy. In the days of the Census that we are able to see up to 1911, it was in the County of Denbighshire. If you have seen it on the Census shown as Llansanffraid Denbigh then this is incorrect and it should have read Llansanffraid Denbighshire.
Look again at the Census records for 1861 and you'll see at the top right hand corner of the form " the undermentioned houses are situated within the Boundaries of the Parish of Eglwysrhos"
If you look below that for Marl Bach and see across the page at "Where born" you will see Denbighshire Eglwysbach and that is correct for Edward Davis and Margaret Davies.
However the entries for every one in the family below the parents are incorrect. Llandudno and the Parish of Eglwysrhos are both in Caernarvonshire.
This happens on Census forms and you can't always take them as gospel as they have only been copied on to the form you see by a clerk and in those two cases you have quoted they both contain human errors.
We have the advantage here of our local knowledge on the area.
Eglwysrhos was a parish that contained a number of areas such as parts of Llandudno, Llanrhos, Tywyn, Deganwy and what is now Llandudno Junction but for Census purposes I've only seen Eglwysrhos mentioned.
If only the Birth Certificate had mentioned where Elizabeth was born could have made the search a lot easier. The Elizabeth it may be is in the 1861 Census living at Marl Bach but she was born in Eglwysrhos
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