Thanks F. I was not sure of my facts on this hence a lot of ? marks.....I agree with your comment re Garth Court, it is ugly and does not suit Llandudno we had a look when we first arrived, we were taken to one of the upper floors and looking down onto the roofs, even I could tell there was going to be a very large repair bill in the future, and the flat we were shown was extremely damp proving my point.