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Offline Merddin Emrys

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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #75 on: March 10, 2011, 07:56:57 pm »
Wow, looks stunning

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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #76 on: March 11, 2011, 12:59:14 am »
You didn't list the make of vehicle Merddyn.  :-[

It's a Burlingham bodied AEC Regal III that has been restored and returned to service by Silver Star of Caernarfon. It runs day and half-day tours in the area.

The front engined AEC Regal was first produced in 1929 and was the basis for many buses and coaches both in and outside of London. In London, especially, it was the basis of many Greenline coaches built in the 1930s. The Mark IV AEC Regal introduced in 1950 broke the mould by having its engine under the floor. The most celebrated Regals are the London Transport RF class AEC Regal IVs built between 1951 and 1953, with Metro-Cammell bodywork that was years ahead of its time.   There are probably more of these vehicles in preservation today than of any other type of bus.

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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #77 on: March 11, 2011, 07:00:31 am »
You didn't list the make of vehicle Merddyn.  :-[


good point, but you've covered it nicely  :)
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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #78 on: March 11, 2011, 07:19:22 am »
looks fantastic  :)

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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #79 on: March 11, 2011, 05:21:06 pm »
Not only looks. When the engine is running it sounds fantastic too.

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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2011, 08:30:42 pm »
We had one of our regular walks to Rhos on Sea this afternoon and you could clearly see the wreck of the Rhosneigr, lower tides to come over the next few days!
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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2011, 08:35:28 pm »
Captured it well, Andy.  :)

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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2011, 09:22:58 pm »
Captured it well, Andy.  :)

Thanks  :)   more here       http://www.byegones.co.uk/rhosneigr_large.html

I'd not heard about the Mosquito aircraft before!
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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #83 on: March 18, 2011, 09:32:15 pm »
Interesting website. Why they have a photo of Llandudno Pier purporting to be Rhos though, i don't now?  :o 8)

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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2011, 11:09:17 pm »
Indeed ... and they are still persisting with the ERRONEOUS myth that Rhos Pier was a second-hand one bought from Douglas, Isle of Man.

Rubbish website... it should be shut down!
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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #85 on: March 20, 2011, 12:22:27 am »
Fester, I've always understood that Rhos pier came from the I.O.M.    What makes you so sure that this is untrue/ Mike

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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #86 on: March 20, 2011, 12:36:45 am »
I think it was designed to jumpstart the growth of Rhos as a tourist area, with its main purpose being to allow steamers to dock rather than as a pleasure pier. I originally believed it had been bought from the isle of Man but...

It was originally thought that this pier was originally built at Douglas in the Isle of Man and later bought by a group of North Wales businessmen in 1895/6, dismantled and re-erected at Rhos-on-Sea.

However, in the book 'Piers of Wales' written by Martin Easdown and Darlah Thomas, it has been conclusively proved that the Douglas Iron Pier never went to Rhos-on-Sea, Colwyn Bay. The Douglas pier was closed in 1891 and acquired by the the council who offered it for scrap as they wanted to widen the promenade at the foot of Broadway.

A number of resorts (such as Penarth and Abergele) had a look at the pier with a view to re-erecting it at their resorts (it was up for sale at £1,300) but that failed to happen. In the early part of 1894 demolition of the pier began by a Manchester scrap metal merchant, which was completed by May.

So the pier was never re-erected at Rhos. This wrong information came about because one author claimed it happened in a book published in 1952 and everyone took his word for it.


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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #87 on: March 20, 2011, 10:29:24 am »
Fester, I've always understood that Rhos pier came from the I.O.M.    What makes you so sure that this is untrue/ Mike

Bob is correct.
At the very end of the book 'Piers of Wales' it actually shows a picture of  the Isle of Man Pier, and it is entirely different in its construction to Rhos.
It was a myth, borne out of letters to the Newspaper in the 1890's, which pointed that it might be a good idea to buy the Douglas Pier, as it was cheap and up for sale.

Nope, you got a brand spanking new pier for your money .... and then didn't look after it!



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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #88 on: March 21, 2011, 07:05:22 pm »
Bob is correct.
It was Dave that said it, I just quoted  8)


http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/towns/douglas/ipier.htm

Ross-on-Sea pier was 500ft longer than the 1000ft Isle of Man Douglas pier
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Re: Everything to do with Rhos On Sea
« Reply #89 on: March 21, 2011, 08:35:18 pm »
Well, thats put me in my place. Thats two "facts" which have been stuck in my mind for seventy years being shown up as being false. One--Rhos pier came from the I.O.M.  Two---I was going to be a millionaire before I was 80.  Mike   P.S. Must run and buy another dozen lottery tickets!!