This is most depressing----I've been in transport for a lot of my life and two of the owners involved today (Buckleys crane hire and Jennings) I know personally. Buckleys, of course, were only involved in the rescue. However, on a brighter side, the Rhos thread has never got going in the new forum but yesterday it leaped from Page 1 to 3!!! P.S. In case anyone is interested, Dewi Jones, the boss of Jennings is Towyn's golden boy, started out in a shed in his back garden around 35 years ago and is definately the most successful business man out of the village.