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Offline anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #390 on: May 11, 2019, 11:29:01 pm »
Hi.
William Bell Rogerson,  born 1910 just seen this, was notified in 2012 by an RM Callingham about WB In Llandudno I think!!!
 Would not think many Callingham about $hands$
Thanks, Anneelaine,
 $booboo$ cannot find the name anywhere nowhere to be seen
 BUT after saying that the name rings a bell Why!!! Only  Callingham no first name at all coming into my mind.
Anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #391 on: May 12, 2019, 12:24:39 am »
 ))* I should stop digging Mmmmm,
Just found a Maud Rogerson

Death   
 1947 Liverpool South, Lancashire, England
it is saying she was married to WBR the second my Grandfather  But he was still married to my grandmother in 1940 when he got run over in Liverpool
because he had no will; his money went to, Jane  Rogerson my gran, Mmmmm (she had not divorced him.) I know that for sure.
Anneelaine


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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #392 on: May 19, 2019, 01:03:53 am »
Hi,
 Just found an address, anyone, nowhere it is, please it should be a farm Frith Y Vaul Glan Conway
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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #393 on: May 19, 2019, 09:29:38 am »
Hi anneelaine ...
... suspect you have found Ffrith y Foel (pronunciation would be the same but Vaul would not be a Welsh spelling!) - go back to page 21 of this topic where Hugo and I have mentioned it, Hugo with photos!
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Dave

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #394 on: May 19, 2019, 12:22:56 pm »
It's a nice looking property and I took those photos after DVT  found the place.       It's just off the A470 as you are driving south from Glan Conwy.    Go past Nev's garage and Talgoed Nursery and at the top of the hill there is a staggered cross road where you turn left and the property is less than 100 yards away
You can view it on Google street view

Quite often you come across Welsh names that have been spelt incorrectly so it can make it harder to find

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #395 on: May 20, 2019, 08:36:40 pm »
DVT, spot on
you put this a little time ago
1911 at Ffrith y Wae, Glan Conway
The home of James and Anne Evans
Gertrude age 14 (1897) their niece born Trefriw, occupation shown as "helping"
Anne is shown with an "e" and born 1863 but could perhaps be the Ann Davies at Mardir Farm age 10 in 1871 then Owen would be her brother, and so Gertrude would be a niece.
 James Evens, Ann Evens, (Nee Davies) Gertrude is the   Niece
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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #396 on: September 23, 2019, 08:34:55 pm »
Hugo,
I have been reading everything been sent and was looking at Page 5 the graves and things James Rogerson so I started looking into it and came across this.
James Rogerson
England and Wales Census, 1891





Name:   
James Rogerson
Event Type:   
Census
Event Date:   
1891
County:   
Lancashire
Ecclesiastical Parish:   
CHRISTCHURCH
Registration District:   
Barton Upon Irwell
Gender:   
Male
Age:   
29
Marital Status:   
Married
Occupation:   
Buyer For Ship & Merchant
Relationship to Head of Household:   
Head
Birth Year (Estimated):   
1862
Birthplace:   
Lancashire, England
Page Number:   
12
Registration Number:   
RG12
Piece/Folio:   
3154/ 36
Household   Role   Sex   Age   Birthplace
James Rogerson   Head   Male   29   Lancashire, England
Mary F Rogerson   Wife   Female   27   Lancashire, England
Sydney J Rogerson   Son   Male   1   Lancashire, England
WBR father was a Merchant
so need to see now if I can find an address in or around rhos on sea  &well& thanks guys

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #397 on: May 21, 2020, 12:00:15 am »
Hello back again, still at it
Looking for Cathrine Davies nee Hughes
Estimated birth year:
abt 1834
born:
Llangystenyn, Denbighshire, Wales
parents.
Any help please
AE

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #398 on: May 21, 2020, 12:39:12 am »
Think I found it,
1851 at Cefngwyn, Eglwysbach
William Hughes age 33 (1818) born Eglwysbach, farmer of 20 acres of upland
Catherine Hughes age 32 (1819) born Eglwysbach, his wife
John Hughes age 1 (1850) born Eglwysbach, their son
ae

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #399 on: May 21, 2020, 02:13:23 am »
 ))*I  am so lost now Help.
Its saying Name:   Catherine Hughes
Age:   12
Estimated birth year:   abt 1859
Relation:   Daughter
Father's name:   Thomas Hughes
Mother's name:   Elizabeth Hughes
Gender:   Female  Born Eglwysbach
I know this is right well I think it is, because just meet my cousin 4 times removed we both got the same DNA, O dear, DVT  help I am So lost, I am not getting any better.

1881 at Ty Newydd, Eglwysbach

Wlliam Hughes age 65 (1816) born Eglwysbach, farmer of 40 acrews
Catherine Hughes age 64 (1817) born Eglwysbach
Mary Hughes age 28 (1853) their daughter, born Eglwysbach
Catherine Hughes age 26 (1855) their daughter, born Eglwysbach, occupation given as "Domestic Servant out of Employment"
Mary Catherine Hughes age 4 (1877) their grand-daughter, born Eglwysbach

1881 at Mardir Farm, Glan Conway
Owen Davies age 22 - see previous information - that's how you can tie in with there!

1882 Owen Davies married Catherine Hughes at Llanrwst


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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #400 on: May 21, 2020, 11:30:50 am »
Hi annelaine ...

The plot thickens!  My great-grandmother was Catherine Hughes (born 1839, died 1915) who lived in Ty Newydd in 1841 & 1851 with her parents William (1806) & Anne (1807).  William and family, less Catherine as she was now married to Lewis Thomas, were at Pant y Ffynnon in 1881.

So, the William Hughes at Ty Newydd in 1881 is not the same one as in 1841 !!!

There are several Catherine Hughes, as you have pointed out ... so ???

I have ordered the marriage certificate of Catherine and Lewis to verify that I have the correct Catherine, so will have to get back to you on that.

I know, when I was a boy, that Dad used to visit Ty Newydd and I recall a reference to Catherine Jane who he knew there, and I'm sure there was a family link between us.

Family trees get very confusing, I can go back to the 1700's on my Thomas side, but on my mother's side I can go back to 1190 to a 23 x Great-Grandfather in Suffolk !  You actually have over 30 million 23 x Great-Grandparents !!

As for connections with Llangwstenin see the comments on the Quiz pages relating to the Pritchard family.

Stay safe.

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #401 on: May 22, 2020, 08:10:53 pm »
 {}{} Hi, DVT,
I am happy it was not right, because my best friend for over 40 years, came up we could not believe it she is a cousin happy about it, we did not know as she was born Belfast,
anyway got a little info.
Catherine Hughes but Do not know much about them  all I got is names
1859–1924
BIRTH ABT 1859 • Eglwysbach
DEATH 1924 • Conwy, Caernarvonshire, Wales
great-grandmother
Thomas Hughes
1821–
BIRTH ABT 1821 • Eglwysbach, Denbighshire, Wales
DEATH Unknown
2nd great-grandfather Add MyTreeTags™
Thomas Hughes
1791–1861
BIRTH 1791 • Flintshire, Wales
DEATH DEC 1861 • Gwaenysgor, Flintshire, Wales
3rd great-grandfather Add MyTreeTags™
Roger Hughes
1756–1842
BIRTH 1756 • Holywell, Flintshire, Wales
DEATH MAY 1842 • Gronant, Llanasa , Flintshire, Wales
4th great-grandfather Add MyTreeTags™
John Hughes
1718–1794
BIRTH 1718 • Isycoed, Denbighshire, Wales
DEATH NOV 1794
5th great-grandfather Add MyTreeTags™
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And so on till 1500
 Quiz pages relating to the Pritchard family.could not find?
Thanks AE

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #402 on: May 23, 2020, 12:45:35 am »
Just one more thing, Owen Davies , Mother was also a Catherine Hughes, Mrs. Davies
BIRTH ABT 1834.
 Owen  father was Hugh Davies
B:abt 1828 Llanstffraid, Denbighshire, Wales
AE

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #403 on: May 23, 2020, 11:13:03 am »
Hi anneelaine ...

... you will find the info about Owen Prtichard on this forum thread, you will need to go back a couple of pages.

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Dave

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #404 on: May 24, 2020, 01:21:29 am »
Got it Thank you.