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anneelaine

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Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« on: April 17, 2013, 12:39:28 AM »
Hi Anyone know about the Rogerson from Pensarn farm from about 1906 or there  about  llangystenin William Bell Rogerson.
Who had the farm in around 1968?  I know we went there in 1968 but was told it was my dad cousins farm but looking it up it looks like my dads brother its all mixed up  any help please
Anyone know any think about the Rogerson from llangstenin
Thanks Anneelaine

anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2013, 09:06:13 PM »
HI Just been told today that the Davies had a few farms one was pensarn  farm a round Llangystenin Anne Jane Davies married William Bell Rogerson 1917.after this her family would have nothing to do with her at all,
her family had a big  white house I think they said by the black cat   I think this was a pub as the road went up the hill to llangystenin on the way to pensarn farm
Her sister Elizabeth Lewis nee Davies lived in the church cottage in conway
any help please Anneelaine

anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 11:42:25 PM »
Hello i am getting more mixed up just found the davies in Trwfriw  @  rectory cottage :roll: do not know what's going on

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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2013, 08:32:39 AM »
Hi, There is only one Rogerson listed in the 1929 directory, G.T. Rogerson Corn Miller and Grocer, Mill Stores, Gyffin Road Conwy.
In the 1969 Directory there are several Davieses listed as Farmers,but no listing for Pensarn Farm. I will have another look through the Street listings in each.

Cambrian

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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2013, 08:48:31 AM »
This is a bit of a puzzle.  A "big white house" near Black Cat roundabout could possibly be Bryn Eisteddfod. but it was never a pub and the road it is on does not lead to Llangwstennin (in the uphill direction) also it is in the old parish of Llansantffraid Glan Conway (now community of Llansanffraid Glan Conwy).

There is the old family of Davies at Marl Farm, possibly there is some connection ?

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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 12:58:32 PM »
1969 - Farms/Farmers with the name Davies:

Farms and Riding Stables:
 Robert Davies  Penlan Farm Glanwydden,
T Davies Fron Farm, Bryn Pydew,
T Davies Marl Farm, Llan Jct.
Farmers
D. Davies Maes Cadwgan Farm  Conwy
 D Davies Penlan Farm Glanwydden
T Davies, Bryn Euryn Farm Rhos-on-Sea
Pensarn Farm doesn't appear to be listed, but I've not yet looked in the Street listings

anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2013, 06:16:59 PM »
This my Aunt in the 1911  also  about William Bell Rogerson
 My Dad was born in the same place in 1918 only thing not the same was new wife Mary Rogerson passed away in 1917 and Wlliam Bell married Jane Anne Davies in 1917

Street Address:   Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conway
Marital Status:   Married
Years Married:   4
Estimated Marriage Year:   1907
Occupation:   Farmer
Registration district:   Conway
Registration District Number:   632
Sub-registration district:   Llandudno
Name:   Hannah Rogerson Age in 1911:   2
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1909

Relation to Head:   Daughter
Gender:   Female
Birth Place:   Llangystenin, Carnarvon, Wales
Civil parish:   Llangwstenin
County/Island:   Caernarvonshire
Country:   Wales
Street Address:   Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conway
Occupation:   School
Registration district:   Conway
Registration District Number:   632
Sub-registration district:   Llandudno
ED, institution, or vessel:   08
Household schedule number:   160
Piece:   34543
Household Members:   
Name   Age
William Hill Rogerson   32
Mary Rogerson   30
Edith May Rogerson   4
Hannah Mary Rogerson   2
Wm Bell Rogerson   1
But no one can find the Farm THANKS FOR LOOKING FOR ME
Anneelaine



anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 06:24:37 PM »
Cambrain
Thanks for that  going to take a look see if i can remember it
A

anneelaine

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Re: Pensarn Farm Llangystenin Conwy
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2013, 01:19:07 AM »
cambrian HI
             Have been looking at what you were saying! and I have looked at the map and felt i been there walked it with my dad its a caravan park  now And a  Mr O Davies runs it
I have just found a phone number for the park
 I think i will give them a call I hope its the same family.
                    ( Maybe)
they will now about pensarn farm .
Thanks Anneelaine

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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 01:03:05 PM »
Llangystenin is a small village near Colwyn Bay but it also the name of a large Parish in the area.    In the Parish are a nimber of small villages and hamlets and Pensarn is in the area described by Cambrian.
I would imagine that the farm is or was in that area and the Conwy Archives in Llandudno would know the location of the farm.

Cambrian

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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2013, 01:41:16 PM »
Just following Hugo's comment.  The name of the parish varies - so if researching indexes it is useful to be aware of this.

Rev Robert Williams in his "Aberconwy" (1835) calls the parish "Llangystenin", but the 1843 Enclosure Act refers to it as "Llangwstenin".  The  1895 Order establishing the parish council refers to it as "Llangwstennin" as does the Order which abolished the civil parish in the 1930s. The Church in Wales seems to have called it all three over the years!

anneelaine

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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2013, 10:17:04 PM »
Thanks everyone for your help
Anneelaine

Hugo

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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2013, 10:25:43 PM »
I'm sure that we can trace the farm.   Cambrian is very familiar with that area and I hope to see a friend on Tuesday who lives in Bryn Pydew and may well know where the farm is or was

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2013, 11:30:04 AM »
I had a quick look at a Francis Firth map of 1840 and although the image was fuzzy it looked like Pensarn was where the Water Board buiding is today.     The Parish boundary of Llangystenin was very near there but is unrecognisable now with all the development that has gone on there since the late 1960's.
I'll try and find out more next week.

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2013, 01:50:13 PM »
Looking at the Street names in Llandudno Junction in 1929, there is a Pensarn - (name of street/road with Conway road written underneath) these are the addresses listed there:
Welsh Calvinistic Chapel
Chapel House
1-13 Railway Terrace
The Dependence Laundry Co.
Llangwstenyn C of E School

is this the general area identified?