Elias Family

[Hugo]

I can't speculate on how they met but it would be interesting to know if you ever found out.  I use the old fashioned phone book to find the names of people and if you wanted to know any then I can let you know there names addresses and phone numbers.

The walk still seems on for tomorrow even though it is raining at present, fingers crossed.

[sgbright]

Thanks Hugo.  That is probably something we will never know but I will keep it in my mind as I track any movements etc. Thanks again

[sgbright]

Now looking for Isobel's mother Sarah Hughes.  Can anyone read the second line of this census.  Pretty sure it says Denbighshire but I cannot make out the word after.  thanks all.  stuart

[suepp]

Hi, It looks like Llanychan which is near Ruthin. It's a small hamlet. , I pass through there very often so could check property names or the local churchyards if you have anything else to go by!

[Hugo]

Stuart,  I asked my friend about Plas Y Glyn but he hadn't heard of the name.  He is not a local and hasn't lived there that long so we'll keep looking for you.

[sgbright]

I would say you are right Llanychan. Pretty clear once you know what it is.  Thanks for that.

[sgbright]

Thanks Hugo.  Hopefully you had a good walk.  I will keep cyber digging also.  I have another short family notice in Welsh - this was Isobel's mother who died in 1865 when Isobel would have been only an infant.  I suspect it doesnt reveal too much but would still be good to know.  thanks again.

[Hugo]

I've translated this and put it in the context of when it was written

25th, Sarah, wife of Edward Elias, Esq   Gorswen near Conwy.  For immense grief to the family and very wide recognition to the circle.
And betterment  in death is hoped

[sgbright]

Thanks again Hugo.  much appreciated.

Stuart

[Hugo]

Stuart,  I've had a look on Google for "listed building Clynnog"  but Plas Y Glyn is not listed there.   Because of it's age it should have been listed so I suspect that it has either been demolished or very unlikely had a change of name.
I may be going to the Conwy Archives next week and will have a look there but the info that they have there will only relate to the Conwy area.
Anything to do with the Clynnog area will be in the Gwynedd Archives at Caernarfon

[sgbright]

Thanks Hugo.  I guess we havent seen any sign of it since the early 1900s so may well have gone.  At least we know roughly where it was.  will give me another reference point when there.  kind regards  Stuart

[Hugo]

Stuart,  You've probably been swamped with websites to look at but have a look at this and in particular the postings of Brevitas which may or may not help you with your search.
Plas Y Glyn keeps reappearing on a lot of postings.

[viv]

http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I183969&tree=Welsh

ref to Plas y Glyn , Clynnog

[viv]

also this one:  http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=willperf&surname=Elias%2C+Thomas

[viv]

and another: http://www.archiveswales.org.uk/anw/get_collection.php?coll_id=2724&inst_id=27&term=Elias%20family%20|%20of%20Plas%20y%20Glyn