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Offline Ian

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2014, 07:46:52 am »
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« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2014, 08:27:21 am »
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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2015, 01:56:55 am »
Hi Jom, so sorry to take so long in responding to your message, it's great to hear from you. I have tried several times to send a personal message but it just comes up with 'error' so I don't know if you would have better luck! I visited Llandudno in September with my daughter, we had a great week, some sight seeing and some very successful family research that I'm very happy to share. It is really good to discover there are Owen family out there!

Hi Sandie.  It may have been a problem my end as I didn't have my account set to accept emails.  Hopefully all sorted now.

Look  forward to swapping info and documents.  With the help of some good people on this forum, I have managed to take this family back quite a number of generations. Luckily too many Llandudno baptisms etc are online.

Happy New Year to all forum users and thanks for everyone's help in the past.

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2016, 09:41:32 pm »
Logging in after a long absence and further research and in need of putting the record straight! Enoch and William on the (WW1) Cenotaph were not brothers as I had wrongly thought. This William was the son of John and Ann Owen, ?? if this could be another branch of the Owen family. Enoch's brother William returned from war, was demobbed in 1919, married and returned to live in Llandudno and died in 1943.

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2016, 07:46:12 am »
Yeh, Sandie,

That's what I've discovered too.  Cheers

By the way... you had mentioned that you were unable to find Edward OWEN bn 1898 after 1911.  I have him joining the army and noted on his enlistment papers as being at Min Y Don in 1916.  He was in the Royal Army Medical Corps as a  Private, number 139328.  In 1920 was noted to be at 147 Mostyn St.  (Feb) but by Mar was in Grove house  Grove Passage, Upper Mostyn Street ? the same place

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2016, 09:46:35 am »
Sorry for butting in Jom but you have mentioned Min Y Don.     Now where is the Min Y Don you are talking about?    The only reason I'm asking is because someone else was looking for it and no one knew.
There were cottages in Llandudno known locally as Penmorfa Cottages but I remember my Nain saying something about Min Y Don so I looked in the Llandudno Rates book of 1906 and Min Y Don is the official name fot those Penmorfa Cottages.
The photos are of the terrace of cottages which were demolished in 1936

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2016, 10:00:27 am »
jom

147 Mostyn Street is almost directly opposite Grove Passage.

Grove House is 118 Mostyn Street and Grove Passage runs alongside leading to Tudno Street.

I think there was a cottage at the rear of Grove House which would have been accessed from the Passage.

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2016, 11:47:43 am »
William enlisted in the RWF on the 12/10/14. Sevice numbers 2371 then 265798

He landed at Suvia Bay, Gallipoli on 8/8/1915. Survived to be evacuated to Mudros on 11/12/1915.

We have much more to find out here. We have his demob papers but they are brief on service.

He was disembodied at Prees Heath on 24/7/1919.

Lived in Llandudno until he died 5/2/1943.

There is a photo of him on my Ancestry site

Here's William's medals:

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2016, 11:55:29 am »
This a transcript of the William owen on the cenotapaph

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2016, 12:05:26 pm »
This a transcript of the William Owen on the cenotapaph

Offline PhilMick

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2016, 12:11:39 pm »
Hugo - thank you for the photos.

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2016, 12:42:50 pm »
Hugo - thank you for the photos.

Was the Min Y Don the cottages in the photo PhilMick?      My Nain and Taid were living at No 6 from 1906 until the cottages were demolished in 1936 and I have a copy of the rates book somewhere in my collection of things.

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2016, 02:40:28 pm »
I tried for months to find Min y Don. My wife and I walked up, down and all around West Shore but never found it. I never considered it might have been demolished. The only reference to Min y Don as his home was on his WW1 service record. He was living there with his father, William Owen 1857-1916.

My wife remembers him living with them in Mowbray Road for a while before he died in 1961.

Here's Ned (Edward Owen) at a family Llandudno Wedding in 1943:

Offline Hugo

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2016, 03:14:57 pm »
I'll see if I can find the photo copy of the 1906 Rates Book and see what families are on it.    It was described in the Rates Book as small tenement cottages and Lord Mostyn was the owner of them.
I believe there were 6 cottages in the terrace and No 6 which was my Nain and Taids is the end one nearest the Great Orme.   The cottages all shared one community washroom so I was told

There is a detached cottage still remaining and it was called Glan Y Don (you can see it on the right in the photo)  but has changed it's name since. My mother always called it the "big house" when she lived in the Min Y Don cottages.    They were originally cottages for the Copper Miners and were built in the late 1700's

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Re: John OWEN born 1821
« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2016, 04:07:55 pm »
PhilMick,  I've found that copy of the rates book and it's attached for your observation.   Your relative was not living at the cottage in 1906 but he may be on  the 1911 Census.
At least you know now where the Min Y Don Cottages were located and that they were more commonly known as Penmorfa Cottages on account of the nearby Penmorfa House  ( Gogarth Abbey Hotel and latterly called the Penmorfa Hotel)