Oh, and whilst I'm here. I read in todays papers that a chain of fitness centres has just been forcibly sold for around £10 million, not enough to pay debts of £30 million (I'm writing in approx rough millions), loads of investors from years ago get nothing, all the fault (?) of some investment bank or another buying them for £90 million about six years ago. Who did they buy them off? Flash back to the previous forums debates about a Mr Albert Gubay.