Just come to look in on the Coffee Shop rather than the Pub, so as to give a good impression. Stan, sorry to hear about the car damage problem. This is one type of accident where it is virtually impossible for the innocent driver to take any avoiding action, its just pure bad luck. Glad to hear the most important thing though----you and passengers are O.K. Funnily enough I called in the cafe to ask DaveR if he knew what caused the bump at the bottom of Rhos Road; it must have been a real smash to have flattened the railings at the bottom. Also to tell him good news. The six or eight tattered Welsh flags at Rhos point have been replaced by brand new ones. Strange time of the year, from a financial point of view, to change them.