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Offline Fester

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2012, 01:02:06 am »
Superb articles Tosh, the history of retailing in Llandudno is both compelling and timeless.
Thank you!

I will refer back to this topic on many occasions.

I wonder who was trading on the pier (if anyone) in 1901?

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2012, 11:48:13 am »
I was fascinated by the details of the commercial life in Llandudno back then.

The David Littler, groacer etcs one of the Littler family from Cheshire. They were, and are, a big farming family in Cheshire then. It seems that David Littler decided he preferred Llandudno.

The jeweller shown H Wisebeck, is a relation of mine by marriage. The correct name was Weissbeck. This family came from Germany and settled in Scarborough before they lived in Llandudno. H, or Henry Weissbeck's son, Louis, came to Llandudno as well and he was optician and jeweller too. He lived in Ravenscar, Clifton Road for some years.

There are Weissbeck descendants living in the Llandudno area to this day.

I wondered about the Cocoa House when was this trading? It was in the small lane at the rear of Mostyn St, not far from where the National Westminster Bank used to be.

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2012, 12:04:22 pm »
H. Weissbeck, actual spelling in the 1895 directory says, Jeweller, see Hodgetts & Weissbeck, residence, Bryn Orme, Tabor Hill.
The spelling must have been Anglicised sometime between 1895 and 1901.
His partner was J.E. Hodgetts of 69 Mostyn Street, jewellers and opticians.

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2012, 05:35:12 pm »
If you liked the 1901 trades articles you will absolutely love these.
With the 1901 issue I transposed the information into something a little lighter to make it more interesting.
I have done this with the stuff I wrote for my place of birth in Staffordshire.
However the information in this 1895 set is far too much for me to embroider so I will give it to you straight.
I can guarantee that it will keep you good for hours on end.
All the trade directories are provided free of charge by the University of Leicester as long as it is nor abused or used for commercial gain.
If you click on the link it will take you directly to Llandudno 1895, page 236.
If you see the white area has only script in it proceed as follows.
In the blue tool bar above the white area you will see various tools.
In Go To Image you will see 236.
Next to it is the GO box.
Click it.
That will take you to page 236, scroll down to where it says Llandudno and read to the bottom of the page.
When you want to go to the next page, there are more than 20 of them, click Next Page on the tool bar.
Next Image will carry you on and obviously if you want to return, Previous Image will take you back.
If you want the type to be larger, click, Zoom in and it will increase in size possibly just the once.
I suggest that as soon as you lock onto the first page, 236, put it into your favourites because you will be coming back to it time after time.
Enjoy yourselves and don't blame me if you get hooked on and start to neglect your other duties.
If you are really good I will send you the details for Llandudno 1880 next.
Tosh

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2012, 06:50:19 pm »
Fantastic Tosh.   Went to the Whitehaven section 1910 and found my Maternal G.G.Grandfather who was a Master Printer in the town.   Will have to delve further back and see what I can find.   $thanx$
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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2012, 12:28:09 pm »
To answer your question Fester there were kiosks on the pier in 1901.  There was a fruiterers and G R Thompson had the kiosk to the right of the steps up to the Pavillion entrance and one down the pier but don't know which one.  Towards the end?  He sold newspapers and fancy goods and possibly tobacco.

He should turn up in Tosh's 1895 list at 19 Mostyn Street where he also had a Welsh speaking barber.  GRT would chalk up the news on a big black board outside so people could see what was happening. Mafeking relieved etc.!

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2012, 10:38:51 pm »
I have pictures of the pier from 1901, there are also quite a few in the Gallery on this Forum,  (unless Dave has closed that too ha ha... L0L)

It looks like there were only 4 original kiosks, (of which my shop is one of them) ... but, I actually think that they might have just been shelters.
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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2012, 10:59:45 pm »
No, they were shops from the start. An attempt to bring in a little extra revenue.

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2012, 11:13:43 pm »
Interesting...

I would love to know what they sold,  and if the Seagulls were as adept at nicking their wares as they have become in the modern era.
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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1880
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2012, 10:12:29 am »
This is another one I have discovered.
It is Llandudno in 1880 so enjoy.
I will see if I can get anything in the 1870s but it is doubtful.
Happy scrolling.
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/pageviewer.asp?fn=00009hyr.tif&dn=CCL14012Atif&zoom=s

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2012, 11:25:41 am »
Interesting...

I would love to know what they sold,  and if the Seagulls were as adept at nicking their wares as they have become in the modern era.
I can see a variety of good hanging up in the windows of the kiosks in the full size version of the photo:

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2012, 11:57:07 am »
Is that Fester in the foreground in short trousers?

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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2012, 10:23:04 pm »
Interesting...

I would love to know what they sold,  and if the Seagulls were as adept at nicking their wares as they have become in the modern era.
I can see a variety of good hanging up in the windows of the kiosks in the full size version of the photo:

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I think you mean 'GOODS'   &shake& &shake&
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Re: Llandudno Traders in 1901
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2012, 10:32:36 pm »
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