Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno

[SteveH]

Today, at precisely 0945, a black car facing the 'wrong' way outside Holy Trinity on Mostyn street parked bumper to bumper with a 4 x 4 which was parked in the single legitimate space, just past the rarely-used gateway. This is on double yellow lines, and on the bend, so it was surprising anyone would park in such a tricky position.  The man inside the car opened his door, jumped out and ran across the road towards Lloyds.

As we passed his car it became obvious why he'd parked in such a strange spot.  On the dashboard was a disabled pass. What struck us both was way he ran across the road.

He clearly wasn't disabled, by any normal definition, yet he was using the pass to park in a potentially dangerous location and, it could probably be argued, denying a genuinely disabled person the opportunity to park there.

We called in at Tesco's today, and I noticed the misuse of mother and pram parking bays, they had older children with them, but not in prams etc so the extra space was unused, not as bad as nicking disabled parking but annoying........Mrs H found this on Facebook when we came in.....good timing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7fWYxRq34g

[Merddin Emrys]

That is brilliant!  L0L  L0L  L0L he must have been parked there for ages,

[SteveH]

Welsh councils make £9m on car parking charges in one year

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-33777710

[born2run]

Welsh councils make £9m on car parking charges in one year

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-33777710

It's worse in Cornwall. Try parking in St ives. Although we never pay to park in Llandudno, Conwy or the Bay. I suppose local knowledge comes in handy.

[Fester]

Not exactly Llandudno but...
It would seem that the council coffers in Snowdonia will be overflowing after they hit the jackpot yesterday.

[Hugo]

Fester, was that just past Pen Y Gwryd on the way to Beddgelert?        They have parking meters either side of the hotel but it wasn't always like that and really it's only parking on grass.
At the car park in Pen Y Pass its £10.00 to park there all day!

[Fester]

Fester, was that just past Pen Y Gwryd on the way to Beddgelert?        They have parking meters either side of the hotel but it wasn't always like that and really it's only parking on grass.
At the car park in Pen Y Pass its £10.00 to park there all day!

Ten quid to PARK your car??   That's about how much it costs to drive it to Manchester,  truly disgusting.

[born2run]

That's about the going rate in Cornwall. Perhaps the council are copying them $$$$

[Hugo]

Fester, was that just past Pen Y Gwryd on the way to Beddgelert?        They have parking meters either side of the hotel but it wasn't always like that and really it's only parking on grass.
At the car park in Pen Y Pass its £10.00 to park there all day!

Ten quid to PARK your car??   That's about how much it costs to drive it to Manchester,  truly disgusting.

People use it as a car park for walking up Snowdon so if you can walk up there and back in under 5 hours then they only charge you £5.00.   
What a racket.        We park for free in Llanberis and catch the bus with our OAP bus passes and that way it doesn't cost us anything to do the walk up Snowdon

[SteveH]

Here's what you say about THAT Snowdonia parking ticket photo
There was a clear split between readers over whether motorists visiting Snowdonia should have been fined or not.

A photo showing cars lined with penalty notices in Snowdonia sparked debate on social media.
Some people argued it was a way to "stop tourism fast" and others said "parking there increases the chance for a accident."
Chris Parry, who took the photo, said: "It doesn’t give a good image of the area at all."
The results from the Daily Post poll reveal 51% think the cars should have been ticketed, whilst 49% think they shouldn't have been.
Comments    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/heres-what-you-say-snowdonia-11242507

[Blongb]

If the narrow minded idiots who control our National Park were made to provide adequate parking to meet the needs of the general public who want to come and experience that wonderful asset, there wouldn't be a problem

[Bosun]

The fact of the matter is that the deliberate lack of parking and high parking prices is one way that the National Park control try to control the number of visitors to the Park to avoid overuse and degradation of the Park.

[Blongb]

The fact of the matter is that the deliberate lack of parking and high parking prices is one way that the National Park control try to control the number of visitors to the Park to avoid overuse and degradation of the Park.

That would be quite acceptable if the money used to finance the Park didn't come from the people they are trying to prevent from using it.

[Bosun]

The fact of the matter is that the deliberate lack of parking and high parking prices is one way that the National Park control try to control the number of visitors to the Park to avoid overuse and degradation of the Park.

That would be quite acceptable if the money used to finance the Park didn't come from the people they are trying to prevent from using it.

I totally agree, but the management of natural resources in allowing it to be used today and preserved for the future is a delicate balancing act. It's an extremely difficult call, and any decisions are bound to upset or to be disagreed with by some.

[DaveR]

I totally agree, but the management of natural resources in allowing it to be used today and preserved for the future is a delicate balancing act. It's an extremely difficult call, and any decisions are bound to upset or to be disagreed with by some.

That's it. We can't just let everyone park where they want, otherwise chaos would ensue and the very thing that attracts people to Snowdonia would be destroyed. The Snowdon Sherpa bus service is a good way of getting around the area without a car but perhaps requires a little more effort than a lot of visitors are prepared to make.

http://www.visitsnowdonia.info/snowdon_paths_and_sherpa_bus_service-98.aspx