Author Topic: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno  (Read 76800 times)

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SDQ

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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 10:51:10 PM »
The trouble is that with 50 people getting off each coach you'd fill the bus at the first stop, take them needlessly through C-Y-D and Bodafon until finally dropping them off probably near the pier from where you'd then go through the rest of the route nearly empty. The afternoon pick up to return to the coach park from the pier would be equally as bad as you'd fill up at the pier with people just wanting to get back to the coach but would take them up & down the orme leaving behind any customers that were at the mines/summit because there would be no room for them.
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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 10:54:22 PM »
I tried, Fester !!!

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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 10:55:30 PM »
Why be so negative SDQ?  I'll get The Medz to sort you out...  _))* _))*

On a serious note though, you are correct about the issues involved, which is why the pier General Manager is negotiating with bus operators in order to provide a more simple route.
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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 10:56:54 PM »
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I tried, Fester !!!

A worthy and noble suggestion Bri.   It has its merits... and something similar will indeed be done, I am certain.
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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 11:00:46 PM »
I lived up the orme for over 30 years, I drove for Crosville/Arriva for 10 years thereby operated the 73 service many times so was quite disappointed to see it terminated but in this particular matter the obvious answer is coaches dropping off/picking up somewhere in the town centre or at the pier gates.
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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 11:02:41 PM »
Don't new bus routes require some sort of special approval? Its not as simple as just hiring a bus and driver.  ???

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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 11:05:21 PM »
Luckily certain local Bus companies work well with CCBC, and are able to secure the necessary permissions... (Hopefully)
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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 11:06:07 PM »
The Welsh Mountain Zoo has been running a complimentary shuttle service for many years.

Welsh Mountain Zoo Free Minibus Service 2012

The free Zoo Mini Bus service from Colwyn Bay railway station will commence on Sunday 1st April and will run until Sunday 16th September. The first trip from the station will start at 10:00am and will then run on a continuous loop throughout the day. You should not have to wait longer than 20 minutes for the minibus to arrive for collection. The last trip down from the Zoo will be just before 4:45pm.

If you are organising a group wishing to use the minibus service please contact the Zoo Office first: 01492 532938 key 3 when the call attendant service begins.

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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2012, 11:08:40 PM »
 :laugh:

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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2012, 11:09:27 PM »
You used to have to register the route with the Traffic Commissioner's office.
I think you need to be able to prove you can run the route with your vehicles including in the possibility of a break down (spare vehicle?), you need to prove you have somewhere to keep the vehicles at night, a proper service record for the vehicles, you need a Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) to operate a fleet of buses.... Etc... Etc...
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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2012, 11:49:19 PM »
Like I said.... obstacles in the way!

But I prefer to see obstacles as challenges,  and its a worthy cause.
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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2012, 07:32:31 AM »
Why not advertise all that Llandudno has to offer in a massive poster on the side of toolhire shop facing into the coach park.

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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2012, 08:07:50 AM »
Good idea!  $good$

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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2012, 08:08:27 AM »
I am surprised the red hop-on hop-off bus owned by Alpine does not stay parked up in the bus stop outside the Mostyn Broadway Coach Park during the time when all the day visitors begin arriving.

The bus would soon fill up.

At present, hardly anyone uses it because it starts and ends at the pier gate.

The good news though is it does travel through C-y-D.  D)

I recently noticed it only costs around 6 pp per day to travel between Llandudno - Conwy.

We recently used those buses in Rome, Monaco and Barcelona and on each occasion we were always charged in excess of 20 pp.

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Re: Obstacles to Tourism in Llandudno
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2012, 05:45:22 PM »
I agree with the hop-on-hop off bus starting where people arrive in town - they can then hop on and hop when they see something that interests them.  I have dine it in many towns and cities abroad.