Ah cheers Cambrian - then that Sam Harris is likely to be the son of Robert George Harris and Annie Harris of 10 Mount Pleasant and the brother of (another !) Robert Harris as I found this information on my cyber travels:
http://historypoints.org/index.php?page=penrhynside-war-memorial-fww•Robert Harris, 20454 died 01/09/1917. Royal Welsh Fusiliers "B" Coy. 14th Bn. Commemorated at Tyne Cot Memorial, Belgium. Son of Robert George and Annie Harris of 10 Mount Pleasant, Penrhynside.
Robert was the eldest of 14 children in the family. Five of the brothers went to war and all but Robert survived, although injuries from a gas attack in France are likely to have hastened the death of one brother, Elias, in 1931. Robert may have been one of the casualties when battalion headquarters were struck by enemy shells.
http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Caernarvonshire/Penrhynside.htmlHARRIS Robert Private 20454, "B" Company, 14th Battalion, Royal Welsh
Fusiliers. Killed in action 2nd September 1917. Aged 27. Born and resident
Landudno, enlisted Colwyn Bay. Son of Robert George and Annie Harris, of 10,
Mount Pleasant, Penrhynside, Llandudno. Commemorated on TYNE COT MEMORIAL,
Zonnebeke, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium. Panel 63 to 65.
Also found this which mentions the aforesaid Robert Harris:
http://www.rwfmuseum.org.uk/nb.htmlPte Samuel Hall and the Forgotten Front (Salonika 1916-18). Contributed by Dr C M Hall
Private Samuel E. Hall (11th Battalion RWF)
& The Forgotten Front (Salonika 1916-18)
by Dr. C. M. Hall
"After the out break of World War One on 4th August 1914, young patriotic men all over the country rallied to Kitchener’s call to enlist for ‘King and Country’. Initially filled with nostalgic ideas of warfare, the combination of old tactics and new weapons soon led to the horrors of trench warfare, something that no soldier had ever envisaged. The well known battles of Verdun, Jutland, the Somme and Passchendaele claimed many young British lives, wiping out an entire generation during four long years. However, the “Forgotten Front” of Macedonia and Salonika 1916-1918 has not received as much attention as Gallipoli and Mesopotamia as it was regarded at the time as a sideshow. The 11th Battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliers endured nearly all but two months of the War in Salonika. It was in the final few months before the end of the War that many who had survived the appalling conditions and enemy fire, fell at the Battle of Doiran in Salonika. One of those soldiers was Private Samuel E. Hall.
Private Samuel E. Hall (born 1895) was the oldest of four children. His father, Joseph Hall (b. 14th April 1861), a stone mason and a lay preacher, and his mother Jane Hall (b. 16th January 1873) resided at 2 Mount Pleasant, Penrhynside, Llandudno. Two of his brothers, Ephraim (Navy) and
William (Army) fought during World War One, with Ephraim and the youngest of the four, Joseph, fighting during the Second World War.
As the eldest child of age, Private Samuel Hall was the first to enlist. He enlisted at the Town Hall on Lloyd Street in Llandudno. Like so many of the so called ‘pals’ he enlisted with childhood friends who also resided on Mount Pleasant. He was joined by Edward Evans (3 Mount Pleasant) who, having enlisted in Wrexham went on to be a driver in “B” Battery of the 298th Brigade, Royal Field Artillery. He was killed in action on the 30th November 1917.
Then there was Robert Harris, son of Robert and Annie Harris of 10 Mount Pleasant. After enlisting in Colwyn Bay, Harris went on to be a private in “B” company of the 14th Battalion of the Royal Welch Fusiliers. Robert fell on the 2nd September 1917 aged 27. "
We must never forget these brave men R.I.P. to all
I would assume that the Robert Harris that you mention Cambrian would be aware of his family history but possibly due to his fathers tragic early demise he may not have had the information passed down to him - though probably one of his many aunts and uncles would have spoken about it.
As I don't yet know who my Great Grandfather Harris was and how many siblings he had and what their names were then I'm still pretty much in the dark at the moment. If I'm related to the present Robert Harris then I guess his Grandfather Robert George could be my Grandfathers (Great ?) Uncle and that Sam could be my Grandfathers first cousin making the present Robert Harris my.....second cousin twice removed or something like that.
It also gets very confusing when everyone had the same names and all lived in the same area!(Incidently there's no relation to my name Sam and the other Sam as mine is the female version and obviously my mother wouldn't have known about a Sam in the family! ) I feel I'm getting closer in my quest though thanks to this forum - thanks for the info all I really appreciate it