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What should be done with Colwyn Bay Pier?

Demolish it
Carry out basic renovation (spend up to £5m)
Carry out comprehensive renovation, including all buildings (spend up to £10m)

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #900 on: April 11, 2017, 02:10:04 PM »
Did you see all those pigs flying over the other day? :roll: WWW
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« Reply #901 on: May 09, 2017, 10:41:32 AM »
Colwyn Bay pier contractors 'very doubtful' that parts can be salvaged
Work is continuing at Victoria Pier weeks after dismantling was supposed to have been completed.
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« Reply #902 on: May 09, 2017, 01:06:06 PM »
How can Victoria Pier Trust possibly state this...???

“We are continuing to have positive talks with the Heritage Lottery Fund and we are totally confident the pier will be returned to its former glory,
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« Reply #903 on: May 13, 2017, 11:04:51 AM »
Last night I watched a recording on TV of Hetty Wainthropp Investigations from 1998.    The programme is a comedy detective drama and we had never seen the episode before so we were quite surprised when the opening sequence had a group of school children running under the Victoria Pier in Colwyn Bay.  After that we took more interest in the story and the locations
This episode was filmed in & around Colwyn Bay and the locations included The Pier (inside the pavilion & cafe & outside), Ysgol Bryn Elian & Penrhyn Bay (the boys house on Penrhyn Beach East)
The pier was in a terrible mess even in 1998 and some of the scenes were from inside the big building on the pier.   The episode ended when the villain fell through the rotten planking into the sea.
Looking at the state of the pier in 1998 it's a wonder that it survived for so long afterwards.

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« Reply #904 on: May 15, 2017, 06:21:10 PM »
Some more news on the pier

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« Reply #905 on: May 15, 2017, 06:40:48 PM »
Just an add on to that posting on the Hetty Wainthropp Investigations that I saw recently.   Nothing stays the same anymore and the Colwyn Bay Pier is an obvious example and on another scale so is the dormer bungalow in Penrhyn Bay which featured on the show.
If anyone has gone to Angel Bay in Penrhyn Bay they have probably passed this bungalow which had a conservatory on the side and also a large side garden.
When I saw the house and land today part of the garden was fenced off and controversial plans to build a futuristic looking bungalow in the garden were passed in 2016 much to the dismay of the residents of the estate.
Anyone passing the garden would have appreciated the views from there but soon the only people able to enjoy the views will be the owners of the new property.

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« Reply #906 on: May 16, 2017, 10:33:15 AM »
Plans to dismantle remainder of Colwyn Bay Pier lodged.

I did not realise that planning consent was only for the seaward section, now new plans are being lodged, surely this is a chance for The Colwyn Victoria Pier Trust, albeit a slim one, to try and save whats left.

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« Reply #907 on: May 19, 2017, 11:00:16 AM »
Funding blow for 'high risk' Colwyn Bay Pier restoration project

Campaigners hoping to develop a dilapidated pier have been dealt a blow after their funding bid was turned down.

Nigel Gilbert, vice-chairman of the Colwyn Victoria Pier Trust (CVPT) said the group had to pick itself “off the floor” after learning the Heritage Lottery Fund bid to redevelop Colwyn Bay Pier had been denied because the project was deemed too “high risk”  ref DP

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #908 on: May 20, 2017, 12:41:56 AM »
What did they expect????
For heavens sake..... they were lead down the garden path.
They were 'compliant' in allowing this listed treasure to be (ahem) dismantled.
On the spurious promise that some of it would be restored and rebuilt.

Let this be a lesson to all those who think it's wise to compromise.

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« Reply #909 on: May 20, 2017, 08:16:15 AM »
The original funding offer was withdrawn, IIRC, because of the legal issues mounted by the previous owner.  It seems to have been a combination of him, CCBC's incompetence and bad weather that's doomed the thing.
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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #910 on: May 20, 2017, 11:31:40 AM »
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The original funding offer was withdrawn, IIRC, because of the legal issues mounted by the previous owner.  It seems to have been a combination of him, CCBC's incompetence and bad weather that's doomed the thing.

Yes, and I also think that certain influential people in (and associated with) CCBC have had a strong intent (going back years) to get rid of the pier. The reasons they've cited have changed over time, but it's been constant in one sense - get rid of it. As a result CCBC has seemed two-faced - on one hand seeming to cheerlead for the pier when it was awarded a £594,900 development grant from the Heritage Lottery Fund four years ago. But then, only six months later, using a dubious, inflated, somewhat arbitrary, but widely-publicised refurbishment estimate, as a licence to vote to demolish and return the lottery money.

I think an earlier variant of the campaign group (Shore Thing?) gave CCBC the benefit of the doubt at one point, but then later it became clear (from their social media posts) that they'd lost any faith or trust in the council. Presumably there are new personnel in the latest variant of the pier campaigning group -  and they didn't see that CCBC were still intent on getting rid of the pier, and in using all available justifications for doing so (so as to avoid the wrath of the public they are supposed to represent).

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« Reply #911 on: July 06, 2017, 04:05:38 PM »
Council plans to completely demolish Colwyn Bay pier
Planning bosses are set to decide next week whether or not to give permission for it to be taken down and replaced with a shorter pier

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« Reply #912 on: July 06, 2017, 10:59:52 PM »
It was a foregone conclusion, they were never going to act in good faith to keep their promises to protect the pier.
Politicians are utterly untrustworthy.... and I'm sick of it.
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« Reply #913 on: July 07, 2017, 10:52:48 AM »
And now todays headline...........

Colwyn Bay pier 'must be demolished immediately over collapse and contamination fears'.

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Re: The long running saga of Colwyn Bay Pier
« Reply #914 on: July 07, 2017, 11:09:01 AM »
So the Pavilion is now at danger of collapse due to the fact that most of the supporting structure around it has been dismantled?

Who'd have thought it, eh?