Re: Llandudno's Pier Pavilion redevelopment site

[Ian]

Bit like a certain bus in the past, promising millions for the NHS, then?

[Fester]

The old ‘Two Wrongs’ adage springs to mind....

[Ian]

True...

[SteveH]

The luxury flats set to 'overshadow' iconic Llandudno attraction - and why people are angry about it
A petition has been launched calling for the scheme to be scrapped

Alan Waldron, the developer behind the project, has previously said the scheme will be something Llandudno can be proud of and says it will create 100 permanent jobs and hundreds of construction roles.

However, his comments have not appeased opponents who have branded the development "monstrous".

Posting the petition which has now more that 300 signatures, David Jones said: "Planning permission has been granted for a 10-storey apartments development on the site of the old Llandudno Pier Pavilion.

"The Llandudno Town Council are opposed, but Conwy County Borough Council have gone ahead with granting permission, despite the opinion of local residents and business operators.

"At least eight requests have been made to the Welsh Government to call in the planning permission."

A group looking into and debating the possibility of rebuilding a modern, fit for purpose, Pier Pavilion as part of a regeneration and rebirth of Llandudno as the Queen of Holiday Resort's and saving the Pier from imminent closure has been set up and residents have aired their opinions openly.

cont / comments below article  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/luxury-flats-set-overshadow-iconic-21592288?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4

Petition ...........
https://www.change.org/p/welsh-government-oppose-the-apartments-plan-on-llandudno-pier-pavilion-site?recruiter=1225603370&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=G%3ESearch%3ESAP%3EW-EN%3ENonBrand%3EHow-To%3EAll-Match-Types&recruited_by_id=c2af1d80-122c-11ec-b8b1-f3cf3bc957a0&utm_content=fht-30624668-en-gb%3A0

[SteveH]

Opponents of a scheme to build scores of luxury flats next to one of Wales best known locations have produced artists' impressions which they claim show the "monstrous" scale of the development.

The amended Pier Pavilion proposal to build 54 flats in Llandudno have been requested to be called in by the Welsh Government to halt the development on the seafront.

Hundreds have signed a petition opposing the plans to create an apartment complex overlooking the resort's historic pier.

One of the petition's organisers, David Jones, commissioned the images to illustrate the size of the proposed 10-storey high apartment complex.

He said: "These images show the true monstrous scale of this development."

He claimed the complex would "block out stunning views" from hotels behind the site, and it would "overshadow Llandudno's iconic attraction - The Pier".

cont https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pier-pavilion-scheme-opponents-21606564

[Fester]

It’s a very foolish and unprofessional protest group.
It has quickly amassed about 800 followers by desperately appealing for everyone to share it.
However, there are about 10 active members who comment vehemently in opposition to Waldron’s development plans.
They diminish their own argument by posting images like that, because it bears no resemblance to what is planned.
Hell, if the apartments were going to look like that, I’d be objecting myself.

[DaveR]

It also makes me laugh when I read about all these people protesting about redevelopment plans and how important it is for the original Pavilion to be rebuilt. Where were they all when the original Pavilion was rotting away for years and could easily have been saved with a bit of public effort? Anthony Bagshaw would have happily sold it to anyone back then.

[SteveH]

Llandudno Pier may 'close for good' if luxury flats scheme gets approved
Owner Adam Williams claims the development would affect the 'viability' of the tourist attraction

cont  https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/llandudno-pier-close-good-luxury-21606599?IYA-reg=a05105fc-304d-4c50-9807-edab51f779a4

[SteveH]

THE owner of Llandudno Pier has said plans to improve the Victorian landmark are being held up a pending decision to call-in nearby plans for luxury apartments.

Adam Williams said now that the buzz of the summer season is quietening down he would normally look to make refurbishments to the popular tourist attraction, but the Pavilion site has put “a big spanner in the works”.

Welsh Government ministers are currently reviewing whether to call-in developer Alan Waldron’s £20million plan for 50 apartments, after changes to approved proposals from 2018 were controversially given the green light by Conwy councillors in June this year.

cont  https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/19593917.llandudno-pier-upgrades-held-up-pavilion-call-in-decision-owner-says/

[Fester]

He’s been saying that for six years.
In fact, ever since he said he would restore it to its original splendour.
Meanwhile, the Pier’s structure continues to corrode, rot and rust away.

[DaveR]

Adam Williams could always sell the pier if he’s so worried about its future? Plenty of people willing to take it off his hands.

[SteveH]

Cordyline
Management board member

Re: DaveR's Interesting Properties Thread
« Reply #254 on: Today at 02:12:23 pm »
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Block of apartments for sale

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/115111046#/?channel=RES_BUY

Good find Cordyline              very interesting .

[Dave]

Can't see anyone buying that!

[Hugo]

It does sound a lot of money for a building site and one fraught with complications too, but nothing surprises me now in the building industry.
Anwyl bought the Penmorfa Hotel for £2.4 million about 16 years ago and apart from demolishing the building it has been a building site for all that time.     
Likewise in Abersoch a house was bought for £1 million only for it to be demolished and a new house built in its place so the Pier with 54 plus properties might appeal to a large developer.
Waldron has never had the funds to continue with the development and perhaps this is the best outcome he can hope for.     

[Dave]

The whole thing is a shambles and looks to continue that way for a long time to come.
I can't see a viably economic solution here that will satisfy the critics who seem to prefer a rotten stinking hole in the ground to any sort of apartment development.