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What do you think should be the way forward for the Pier Pavilion site?

Modern design, as put forward by Mr Waldron, featuring restaurants, apartments etc
4 (6.1%)
Recreation of original Pier Pavilion design, but with leisure and entertainment facilities inside
50 (75.8%)
Larger version of original design, with leisure, entertainment and apartments included
8 (12.1%)
Leave site empty for another 20 years
4 (6.1%)

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Offline CMG

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Re: Llandudno's Pier Pavilion redevelopment site
« Reply #1065 on: April 08, 2019, 10:07:01 pm »
Buiding is not imminent.
Waldron is doing "investigations" according to the planning department. He cannot start deveopment until 9
of the 22 conditions have been complied with. To date NONE have been complied with. This work must be to provide compliance evidence.  At the rate the planning department works I doubt the devopment will start any time soon.

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Re: Llandudno's Pier Pavilion redevelopment site
« Reply #1066 on: April 09, 2019, 08:23:44 am »
The state of play as at 6.30pm tonight.
A lot of clearance has gone on.
I’m not sure if it means that the commencement of construction is close.

A very sad day for the pier and Llandudno as a whole that this is being allowed to happen.


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« Reply #1067 on: May 08, 2019, 06:53:52 pm »
I heard a rumour this afternoon...can’t substantiate it...that Mostyn Estates has told Waldron he can have access to his site over their land for £2million. I wish I knew if that’s true or not!

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Re: Llandudno's Pier Pavilion redevelopment site
« Reply #1068 on: May 09, 2019, 04:47:28 pm »
An additional application with a lot more information has just gone in to CCBC planning department regarding this site, if any one's interested it's Application 0/46206 on the planning website. Regarding the permission from Mostyn Estates, do the developers really need to go on to their land? Couldn't they access the site by crossing the public pavement ?

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« Reply #1069 on: May 09, 2019, 05:48:00 pm »
and 0/46208, Meleri.

Offline CMG

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Re: Llandudno's Pier Pavilion redevelopment site
« Reply #1070 on: May 09, 2019, 07:14:11 pm »
An additional application with a lot more information has just gone in to CCBC planning department regarding this site, if any one's interested it's Application 0/46206 on the planning website. Regarding the permission from Mostyn Estates, do the developers really need to go on to their land? Couldn't they access the site by crossing the public pavement ?

My understanding is that Mostyn own the land that the pavement is on. Waldron’s only access is over that land.

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« Reply #1071 on: May 16, 2019, 11:56:32 pm »
Five or six guys working with a myriad of surveying equipment when I went last today.
Plus there have been 2 large, deep holes been dug down for some reason.
I didn’t really manage to catch that on this picture.
One is square and off to the left, the other is longer on the far right side.
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« Reply #1072 on: May 17, 2019, 09:22:11 am »
Good to see progress.   $good$

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« Reply #1073 on: May 25, 2019, 04:11:15 pm »
This pool has appeared.

Does anybody know its history?

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« Reply #1074 on: May 25, 2019, 04:21:57 pm »
Hope it's sea water and puts and end to this folly once and for all.

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Re: Llandudno's Pier Pavilion redevelopment site
« Reply #1075 on: May 25, 2019, 04:33:03 pm »
This pool has appeared. Does anybody know its history?

If you look at the far side of the water Bry, it appears to show the original side wall of the Victorian swimming pool. There is also water at the western end of the site again which has exposed the same side wall. The pool was designed to hold water so it's most likely to be contaminated rain water that can't drain out. I don't think it's sea water as it doesn't go up or down with the tides. ))*
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« Reply #1076 on: May 25, 2019, 04:36:59 pm »
Thank you, Blongb.

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Re: Llandudno's Pier Pavilion redevelopment site
« Reply #1077 on: May 25, 2019, 05:17:42 pm »
On the left of the pics ( by the grand) you will see an old door way that was down to our workshop/ tearoom, we couldn't get down there on big tides so how they stop that God knows  🤔

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« Reply #1078 on: July 06, 2019, 05:28:02 pm »
The clearance of the Pier Pavilion site looked pretty much complete yesterday.
They’ve still got that deep looking flooded pit to figure out though.

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Offline pebbles

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Re: Llandudno's Pier Pavilion redevelopment site
« Reply #1079 on: July 12, 2019, 01:47:28 pm »
Been in Llandudno most weekends since April, and thought i'd ask you guys as you know everything (!), are the half way gates to the pier staying permanantly shut? Is he pretending it needs fixing (maybe it does) or is it as we suspect to make everyone walk past his rides in the first half of the pier..
When i'm in Happy Valley with a toddler who walks at a snails pace and then wants carrying, it's a big pain in the neck to have to walk behind the hotel and back to the start just to "nip" to the end of the pier etc ;)

On another note, don't miss cbeebies stargazing next friday, the the one filmed all in Llandudno in Sunday 9th June!