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What do you think should be the way forward for the Pier Pavilion site?

Modern design, as put forward by Mr Waldron, featuring restaurants, apartments etc
3 (5.4%)
Recreation of original Pier Pavilion design, but with leisure and entertainment facilities inside
42 (75%)
Larger version of original design, with leisure, entertainment and apartments included
7 (12.5%)
Leave site empty for another 20 years
4 (7.1%)

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« Reply #1035 on: September 06, 2018, 01:26:19 PM »
Dave, your point is valid, but we are where we are now.
Very little is being done to address a very immediate looming crisis, not only in health care but the hospitality trade, construction and food production.
That’s if those who are trying to recruit for those industries are to believed.
We will end up paying the price, one way or another.
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« Reply #1036 on: September 06, 2018, 01:51:04 PM »
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That's probably why they come here...
Not many came to work on the Pier development project  ;) ;) ;)

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« Reply #1037 on: September 06, 2018, 01:52:09 PM »
Change of venue I see :) :) :)

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« Reply #1038 on: September 13, 2018, 07:02:43 PM »
Did anyone know that the plans have changed. Realising that he wasn't going to get access to the pier for his atrium exit Waldron has brought the building in by a couple of metres behind the colonnade iron pillars to form a "veranda" along that side. (So the whole building will be slightly narrower). I don't think there is a new 'artists impression' in fact I doubt Waldron would want one produced as it will now look even worse. This 'veranda' space will be a long corridor along the pier side of the building, it will be narrow and probably quite gloomy, being behind the blue pier kiosks as it will be, it will probably be an awful space! The final consent documents have now been issued, with several conditions which have to be met before building work can start. One condition being that a full geological survey has to be done to prove the building work won't affect the Ty Gwyn mine or cause any tunnel collapses.

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« Reply #1039 on: September 13, 2018, 10:11:53 PM »
Thanks for the updates on the Pier Pavilion CMG,  it's interesting to hear what is going on with that site

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« Reply #1040 on: September 14, 2018, 10:38:58 AM »
Time he got on with it ,everything in this town takes an age

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« Reply #1041 on: September 14, 2018, 10:48:26 AM »
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Dave, your point is valid, but we are where we are now.
Very little is being done to address a very immediate looming crisis, not only in health care but the hospitality trade, construction and food production.
That’s if those who are trying to recruit for those industries are to believed.
We will end up paying the price, one way or another.
This should be regarded as good news then:

"There has been a big jump in students from Wales starting to study medicine at UK universities, according to latest figures. There were 410 medical or dentistry students from Wales with places in 2018 - a 23% increase on 2017. This number is the highest for at least 10 years and the rise outstrips other UK nations. Experts describe the figures as a "fantastic" landmark in efforts to tackle staff shortages in NHS Wales.


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« Reply #1042 on: September 14, 2018, 11:50:03 AM »
Only five years to wait...

The problems with recruitment in medicine have been known for years. We're all living longer but becoming less healthy while Medicine is advancing in what it can accomplish so the 'perfect storm' of demand increase and supply shortfall is unlikely to be solved through a few extra students opting for medicine. One issue is that Medicine is no longer perceived as a aspiration; the days when being a Doctor was seen as somehow special have gone, as we're seeing from the crisis in GP surgeries.

We're going to need far more NHS workers from abroad in the years to come.
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« Reply #1043 on: September 19, 2018, 12:23:58 PM »
Here we go......................

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« Reply #1044 on: September 19, 2018, 02:09:35 PM »
Thanks Steve for posting that info

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« Reply #1045 on: October 18, 2018, 04:57:36 PM »
Concerns raised about impact Pier Pavilion development may have on Llandudno mine.

Concerns have been raised about how controversial construction plans on a site in Llandudno will impact on a historically important mine site.
The Ty Gwyn Mine coffin levels run directly underneath North Road behind the Llandudno Pier, right up to the boarder of the proposed Pier Pavilion site.

Debbie Wareham, part of the Maritime Heritage Social Enterprise and Charity, has raised concerns the Pier Pavilion development planned could impact on the Ty Gwyn Mine, a site she said had national and local importance.      Ref Pioneer

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« Reply #1046 on: October 18, 2018, 06:15:15 PM »
who put them up too that then i wonder,lol

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« Reply #1047 on: February 20, 2019, 12:49:26 PM »
t has been 25 years since a fire destroyed the Pier Pavilion Theatre leaving the site bare.

February 13 marked the anniversary of the fire at the Pier Pavilion Theatre and 25 years on the site still remains empty.

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Although there are proposed plans from developers, Quay Developments Ltd which would see eight ? high-quality apartments, two restaurants and an underground car park built on the site.

The £18 million proposed plans would also include three floors of parking, available to neighbouring businesses and hotels, complemented by more than 20,000 square feet of restaurant and public space, including a large atrium and walkway from the pier through to Happy Valley Road.

A spokesperson for Quay Developments Ltd said: "We look forward to taking this scheme forward in 2019, creating permanent and temporary jobs that will breathe new life into the economy and revitalise this dilapidated site.
"Work is set to begin later this year."


But Llandudno mayor, cllr David Hawkins, said he didn't think the proposed development fitted in with the town and that something should have been done on the site before now.

Mr Hawkins said: "It's been 25 years and it still has not been resolved. The development that is proposed doesn't fit in with the town and what is around the site.
"I don't understand why previous councillors didn't do something with it straight after the fire. They could have obtained a compulsory purchase order and taken over the site."
He said the development will cause major disruptions to the tourism industry, especially the Pier...............

northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17445880.25-years-since-a-fire-destroyed-the-pier-pavilion-theatre-and-the-llandudno-site-remains-vacant/

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« Reply #1048 on: February 20, 2019, 02:17:57 PM »
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"Work is set to begin later this year."
Good.

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« Reply #1049 on: February 20, 2019, 05:00:23 PM »
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Although there are proposed plans from developers, Quay Developments Ltd which would see  two restaurants. Can't be achieved without a deal with pier owner Mr A Williams or a protracted legal fight because of enforceable codicils in the deeds which exclude them

The £18 million proposed plans would also include three floors of parking, available to neighbouring businesses and hotels, This is not the case because to meet legal requirements all the available spaces would be taken up by the apartment owners to comply with planning requirements. complemented by public space, including a large atrium and walkway from the pier through to Happy Valley Road. Can't be achieved because the Pier closes and locks it's gates at the end of each days trading and when its not open to the Public in the Winter.

A spokesperson for Quay Developments Ltd said: "We look forward to taking this scheme forward in 2019, creating permanent and temporary jobs that will breathe new life into the economy and revitalise this dilapidated site.
"Work is set to begin later this year."
Not until major highways alterations to the layout of North Parade have been completed and paid for by Quay Developments Ltd


northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/17445880.25-years-since-a-fire-destroyed-the-pier-pavilion-theatre-and-the-llandudno-site-remains-vacant/
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