Crime and criminals

[Yorkie]

What on Earth is this country becoming when police are patrolling our streets looking like mobile scrap dealers.  This is Luton!   

[Ian]

I presume there's not much chasing of fleeing suspects there, then?

[Michael]

   I remember reading about a judge acting in a court reprimanded a copper for appearing as a witness in his court dressed in this fashion. When spoken to by the judge he replied that it was his normal style of working dress.
  In fairness to the Judge he said something to the effect "not in this court it isn't"
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[DaveR]

Mark Bridger found guilty of murdering 5 year old April Jones.

A man who spent his life drinking 20+ cans of lager a day whilst living on benefits. That's what's wrong with this country. 

[Jack]

The cost of his benefits will pale into insignificance compared to the cost of keeping this scumbag alive and in five star luxury in gaol for the rest of his days.

[Yorkie]

Bring back the DEATH PENALTY.  The chances nowadays of an innocent person being executed is next to impossible, unlike some years ago when it was abolished.  Modern forensics and DNA testing give a "proof positive" situation.  No need for appeals and retrials or costly encarceration, and above all, A POSITIVE DETTERENT to those contemplating committing criminal acts. 

Let the debate commence!
 

[Merddin Emrys]

Trouble is it does not deter them!

[Yorkie]

Trouble is it does not deter them!

The death Penalty was repealed in 1965, 50 years ago, and since then crime and terrorrism has changed dramatically.  I am sure that many of the gun toting youngsters would think twice about going out armed if they realised they were flirting with their lives.  Prison nowadays is like living in a holiday camp for 25 years, as recently exposed on TV.

I think the families of those whose lives are terminated prematurely, would like to see an eye for an eye, and the ultimate penalty reinstated.

[Merddin Emrys]

I doubt that it would deter suicide bombers or the two who murdered Lee Rigby then waited for the Police. I'm not saying these lunatics deserve to live, but how to you deter a madman who is not thinking logically?

[Yorkie]

I think we are all intelligent enough to know that one can never achieve 100% success, and all we can do is use the best endeavours available to minimise the possibilities of future incidents. 

[born2run]

Where is this "We" coming in from? I don't want to have any part of your state murder thank you. Luckily neither does the state which is a good thing all round.

[Yorkie]

Where is this "We" coming in from? I don't want to have any part of your state murder thank you. Luckily neither does the state which is a good thing all round.

We is a common term to use in the language when making general remarks.  Those that want can agree, those that don't, can always put up a counter argument, it's up to them.  I respect your view.

So you are quite happy for idiots to continue burning down houses with people in them, murdering young children, shooting soldiers and Police, killing old folk for no reason, bombing public areas and committing homicide without concern?   

State murder?   Justifiable homicide I would call it.

[born2run]

I don't want to see atrocities at all - but I certainly don't want to add to man's inhumanity by allowing poor people who can't afford good lawyers and those afflicted with mental illness to die at our own hands. 'An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'

[Ian]

The entire basis of the justice system is to remove revenge from the equation. Because revenge is unfettered by concerns such as evidence, fact and motive.

[Yorkie]

I would like to believe that everyone brought to the Courts in this Country, gets a fair trial, and I would not have it any other way.  I am in agreement with Ian that there is no place for revenge to become involved in our Justice system.  In this respect I am also in favour of important trials being handled by a "bench" of Judges rather than the jury system.   But that's another subject for debate!