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Fester

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Re: Crime and criminals
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2011, 09:27:34 PM »
Looks totally fake to me....  lots of things odd about that footage.
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DaveR

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« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2011, 08:20:00 AM »
Looks like another big chunk of taxpayers money will be wasted for a few more months!!!  :rage:


Further suspension for Byron Davies of Conwy council

The chief executive of Conwy council has been suspended from his job for a further unspecified period.

Byron Davies, 52, was first suspended last March after he was arrested by police investigating an alleged rape.

In January Mold Crown Court found him not guilty of raping a woman who said she was too drunk to consent to sex.

The council said the first set of "disciplinary matters" had been concluded but "other matters" needing consideration had now come to light.

It said in a statement: "Conwy County Borough Council met today and concluded its consideration of an independent report into disciplinary matters relating to its chief executive, Mr Byron Davies. That matter has now been concluded.

"However, as a result of the need to examine other matters that came to light during consideration of the investigation report, the council decided that Mr Davies should be suspended for a further period."

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Ian

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« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2011, 08:48:10 AM »
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Looks like another big chunk of taxpayers money will be wasted for a few more months!!! 

And he's not even on benefits :-))))
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DaveR

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« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2011, 08:17:17 PM »
The Minutes of the Special Meeting have now been published:
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If it is all true, you have to wonder why on earth he was ever employed in the first place? What a complete disaster for CCBC. Bring on the elected Mayor, I say, the taxpayers have had enough of this nonsense.

Of particular interest:


RESOLVED-


(a)        That the Council finds that Mr Davies is guilty of misconduct

          by virtue of:

(i)       his over aggressive behaviour to staff (he was abrasive, rude and confrontational on frequent occasions);

(ii)    his lack of judgement in the events of March 2010 in drinking and driving; and

(iii)   contributing to the failure to maintain the necessary trust and confidence by reason of his aggressive behaviour.

 

Those voting in favour: 37

Those voting against: 0



(b)       That the Investigation Committee be asked to investigate further that:


(i)        Mr Davies has misled the Senior Disciplinary Committee when giving evidence on past criminal matters, including specifically, when answering the question ‘Have you ever been convicted, arrested or investigated for any form of misconduct either in work or out of work in the past?’;

(ii)       Mr Davies has misled the Senior Disciplinary Committee when giving evidence on which matters he had informed the Council, including specifically, when answering the question ‘Have you completed a CRB check?’; and

(iii)       The Investigation Committee should consider whether any misconduct (including any breakdown of trust and confidence) arose from these or any relevant similar and/or ancillary matters.

 
(c)       That Council note the following concerns of the Senior Disciplinary Committee (no action required):


(i)        Mr Davies’ continuous denial that he had only drank 3 – 3.5 pints, not withstanding the DIP’s conclusion that he had drank between 5 – 5.5 pints.  The Committee would have expected a more candid response.

(ii)       Mr Davies’ poor recollection and denial of events relating to Paragraph 52 of the DIP’s report, only when challenged did Mr Davies recollect the incident.  Again the Committee would have accepted a more candid response.


(d)       That Mr. Davies receives a final written warning to the effect:

 
(i)        That he should not engage in aggressive and confrontational conduct or language to members of staff and councillors and should seek to promote harmonious working arrangements amongst officers and members;

(ii)               That he should remain conscious of his role as an ambassador for the Council in work time and outside such that his conduct should maintain and enhance the reputation of the Council and not bring to it discredit.  In particular he must carefully consider whether he is in a fit state to drive after drinking; and

(iii)             These warnings should remain on his record for 24 months.

 
(e)               That Mr. Davies should have no power of any sort to discipline anyone or recommend disciplinary action (including dismissals relating to capability, reorganisations, restructuring and redundancy) henceforth throughout his employment, with a review after 12 months.

 
(f)                 That in light of Recommendation d (ii), Council considers amending appropriate Council policies and procedures to take account of this resolution.


(g)              That Mr. Davies takes to heart the Council’s anti-bullying policy and considers the impact of his words and actions on other people.

 
(h)              That there should be regular appraisals (which should not be as long drawn out as the first) at yearly intervals and that Mr. Davies must enter into the proper spirit of them and does not think that any criticism of him as he put it is ‘an attack’.


(i)                 That Mr. Davies must accept that people rightly look to the Council to meet the required standards of propriety.


(j)                 That Mr. Davies should be careful about conducting any Council business (as he said he did) in pubs or hotels.


(k)               That the following Return to Work Strategy be adopted for discussion with the Chief Executive and his advisers and that external facilitation be engaged with Mr. Davies to undertake the appropriate measures to manage his return to work:



(i)          That Mr Davies takes 14 days leave from 14 March 2011, part of the 33 untaken days from 2010/11;

(ii)        That Mr. Davies’ direct reports be restricted to Senior Officers only;

(iii)     That the Chief Executive will not hold one to one meetings with any member of staff or Councillor;

(iv)     Actions agreed in discussion should be recorded in writing;

(v)        As an early priority, the Chief Executive will attend anti-bullying training.  Mr Davies, will also certify his knowledge and  understanding of both the law and policy in respect of victimisation and harassment and the personal consequence of engaging in such behaviour;

(vi)     Mr Davies will undertake training in relation to Equalities and Diversity, and Interpersonal Skills (including listening skills); and

(vii)         That Mr. Davies is subject to an enhanced CRB check prior to him returning to work.


(l)                  That Council note the view of the Senior Disciplinary Committee that trust and confidence has broken down and that there is an opportunity to enter into dialogue with Mr. Davies regarding a mutual settlement.


Those voting in favour of Resolutions B to L: 28

Those voting against Resolutions B to L: 14

Paddy

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Re: Crime and criminals
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2011, 08:31:26 PM »
Has he still got his job?

DaveR

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« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2011, 08:34:47 PM »
Still suspended on full pay for a few more months while more allegations are investigated. Nice, especially when you're on £130,000 a year.,,,of our money.

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Re: Crime and criminals
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2011, 08:40:16 PM »
(l)                  That Council note the view of the Senior Disciplinary Committee that trust and confidence has broken down and that there is an opportunity to enter into dialogue with Mr. Davies regarding a mutual settlement.

That looks like it is going to be a Golden Goodbye, a payoff!    And KF gets the job as CE!

Who interviewd the guy ion the first place? Because they all need sacking for saddling the community with such a person.    :rage:



DaveR

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« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2011, 09:33:23 PM »
Another interesting case, this time the Whalley-Huws mortgage fraud:
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Fourteen people, including a solicitor, surveyors, valuers and mortgage advisers, have appeared in court charged in connection with an alleged £20m conspiracy to defraud.

"It follows a two-year inquiry by North Wales Police into alleged multiple fraudulent mortgage applications. The defendants made their first appearance before Flintshire magistrates on Thursday. They were granted bail until a crown court hearing in April.

The defendants are Nicholas John Jones, 52, of Leeswood, Flintshire; Frank Edward Darlington, 59, of Kelnbrook, Barnoldswick, Lancashire; Christopher Hansen, 48, of Kinmel Bay, Conwy; Lisa Margaret Hansen, 41, of Kinmel Bay; Antony Lowry-Huws, 62, of Kinmel Bay; Raymond Charles Whalley, 36, of Prenton, Merseyside; Sheila Rose Whalley, 65, of Llanfairtalhaiarn, near Abergele; Linda Campbell, 40, of Glasgow; Michael Georgieff-Jones, 67, of Dyserth, Denbighshire; Susan Margaret Lowry-Huws, 58, of Kinmel Bay; David Arthur McMeekin, 54, of Riddrie, Glasgow; Brendan Derek Spencer-Whalley, 43, and Nicola Jane Spencer-Whalley, 38, of Royan, France; and George Walker, 57, of Colwyn Bay, Conwy.

All defendants were rebailed before a preliminary hearing at Caernarfon Crown Court on 13 April."


Ian

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« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2011, 07:53:20 AM »
I find this rather odd:

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(i)        Mr Davies has misled the Senior Disciplinary Committee when giving evidence on past criminal matters, including specifically, when answering the question ‘Have you ever been convicted, arrested or investigated for any form of misconduct either in work or out of work in the past?’;

(ii)       Mr Davies has misled the Senior Disciplinary Committee when giving evidence on which matters he had informed the Council, including specifically, when answering the question ‘Have you completed a CRB check?’; and

Enhanced disclosure CRB checks are a fairly standard requirement, and saying you have one isn't good enough;  you always have to undergo a further check.
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Yorkie

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Re: Crime and criminals
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2011, 08:14:24 AM »
I have 3 CRB Certificates each one refering to a different voluntary appointment. 

The need to have a CRB check for every employment was confusing to say the least and I would have been correct in saying "Yes" to the question when at my second or third engagement, although the first certificate may not have covered those risks.  As it happens ALL three of my certificates were in respect of the same category of risk.

The rules have now been changed and one certificate is transferable providing it is covering the required risks.

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Re: Crime and criminals
« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2011, 10:22:25 PM »
I'm confused now....
Byron Davies has committed crimes in the past, and been ACQUITTED of a serious crime recently... but everyone can name him and demand that his head be cut off?

Yet Bugsy commits low level insidious crime all is life.... and people leap to his defence?

Tell you what..... why don't we make Bugsy the CEO of Conwy Council?
 
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DaveR

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« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2011, 10:23:57 PM »
Couldn't do a much worse job....mind you, the bar bill might go up....then again, maybe not!

Trojan

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« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2011, 03:02:28 AM »
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Couldn't do a much worse job....mind you, the bar bill might go up....then again, maybe not!

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Ian

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« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2011, 08:48:28 AM »
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Byron Davies has committed crimes in the past, and been ACQUITTED of a serious crime recently... but everyone can name him and demand that his head be cut off?

FWIW, I believe - and have said - that BD was treated very poorly, by being identified at the outset.  There's a rationale behind that approach (it's believed identification at the outset enables or encourages other victims to come forward) but I still think it's wrong. He was a public figure, however, and the facts will always emerge, as newspapers will always pay for that information and someone will happily commit their own little 'crime' in order to get the money.
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Si hoc legere scis, nimis eruditionis habes.

DaveR

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« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2011, 10:53:42 AM »
At the very least, people would have wondered where the Chief Executive had gone!